06-12-26 Part Two - Sharing SpaceX

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“Yeah, so 135 bucks to share, what are they selling?”

556 million shares of SpaceX stock was interesting.

I was reading CNN that was saying it will make it the seventh biggest, you know, American company by value and it said, even though it doesn't have close to the income, they're, you know, basically they're burning through cash by buying this stock, you're basically just putting your trust in Elon Musk. You're not buying the stock based on what you believe the return on the investment will

be based on previous earnings. Well, and that's it because, well, and earnings can vary, space travel is extremely difficult. It would be, you know, in terms of the basis on valuation, it would be, you know, contracts, you know, what they have in place, right, what that looks like for the future.

Also the risk, you know, it could there be a better or different contract that the government makes, right, that NASA makes and leave SpaceX out.

“I don't see that happening, but, you know, those are questions you have to ask when you're”

going to put your, your money down on an investment.

IPOs to me have always been a, it's just one of those things where quite often you go in,

there's a lot of who-plough, you know, this one certainly has, I mean, SpaceX is Elon Musk's seventh important job. And so it's, it's big, you know, but no, I mean, you walk in and, and there's, you know, comes with that celebrity that's already, that's already known. I think it comes with confidence in the markets if you know about SpaceX and what it's

capable of doing, you, you think about the technology is unbelievable. And then you consider the technology that we have adapted in the private sector. And I know this is private sector stuff, but what space travel has done for technology and innovation in general, right? So step that is used for that purpose that then translates into, you know, well, thanks

space travel, start track years later, the flip phone, pretty much the same thing. But it's, you think about those innovations that might come down the road at the consumer level, that then, you know, because I would like to have a rocket to check to work. I'm only two miles away, but a rocket to take to work where it lifts off and then lands here, you know, that kind of parallel parking thing Elon Musk has perfected in space travel.

And drops in our parking lot and then takes me home after the show. If you can think about any kind of technology that we have and how much of it has come from the innovations in space travel and apply that to the consumer level, then long term. And that's what it should be.

It should always be any investment should be long term is one thing.

Depending on the IPO, I'm going to wait until that knife is done falling or if it's going to fall and then see where like the trend might be. Because if there is a solid trend at the IPO level, right? And it's not, and it's a slow trend on the upward, then it shows you there is confidence overall, it's not the hype.

using my age as some type of observational advantage.

But I remember the excitement of the moon landing, and a couple of years later, we are out of it. Yeah. When you think about it, no, we can't be spending this money anymore on this. That's the one thing that I look at, as you look at the technologies and things that can

come out of this, in the future, we don't know what it is. But if it is, it could be great, long, long term.

“But short term, Democrats get into power, that's what I want to spend it on social networks.”

Talk about contract change.

Because contracts change, because the government is basically government spending.

That's your risk. The risk is, and because I've already seen it, and a lot of people were surprised. But it was like, "Why are we spending money on a space program, even with the excitement of landing somebody on the moon?" And now the expense and the return possible return on an investment of sending somebody

to Mars. And now, you are now at the expense of the contract. And with the return possible return on an investment of the contract and the return possible return on an investment of the contract, the contract is now in the contract. And then the idea is, then the money will be in the shop. With the new Cuba One Capsule Machine from Shibu, in every Cuba Capsule Stex Spitzeng Cafe from special occasions.

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And it was three weeks ago, it was like, "Oh, they're going to tell us tomorrow that the aliens actually do exist." And there's somebody who told somebody else that the aliens do exist and they crashed here. And you know, it's like, you mean they came all this way at the speed of light and they crashed, you know, what the world's going in, if they were going that fast, how did they slow down? Right. When you look at the physics of it, and this is the interesting thing, going, going put space travel in YouTube.

And listen to physicists talk about space travel, and they're like, "Well, you know, if there are, you know, the one thing that will the aliens are actually people that live at the bottom of the ocean." And it's like, "Oh, okay, I'm going to take that," and then you forget about the pressure. Yeah, you know, the incredible pressure, you know, we know what happened to the one, the, the, the one submersible when, yeah, when that imploded.

“And basically, it melts the people inside of it, you know, what you need to do, to live down there in a society.”

It's like, this is a kind of argument where people speculate on the unknown and come to absolute conclusions. And leave the discussion of science out of it. Well, then they, they use graphics that are basically cartoons to demonstrate what it would be like.

But as I've always said, when you start something any argument or analyzing anything on a false premise, everything after it seems logical.

But it's still false based on the false premise. So in this case, when you analyze it and you look at the possibilities of what it would take. And Matt Damon will tell you, going to Mars is very expensive. Filming a movie there is through the roof. And the problem is is that people then go to their conclusions and those selling something, trying to sell something.

We'll put it out there and say, "Hey, look at what life would be like on Mars." Well, I've already seen that. Arnold made that movie. So it's not, you know, I don't need to. I don't need the TSA to, you know, or space wars or whoever would.

They had the TSA. They had the TSA on Mars. Yeah.

“That's what I'm like, remember they had to go through all those security checks and all the way.”

Yeah. So, yeah. Don't go in there. And I just take you, Matt's coffee, my favorite part is how his face contorts. Yeah.

Yeah.

“I guess the point is when you actually look at, when they talk about what it's going to take to go to Mars.”

Yeah.

That we're going to have to send up unmaned, you know, spacecraft up there to lead the supplies there.

Right. Because then they've got to turn around and come, you know, come back. Yeah. When they're talking about the fact of, yeah, but we need to build a society there, whatever. Well, you're talking about years.

I mean, they think it'll take, you just can't go to Mars then turn around and come back. Yeah. Right. You've got to wait till the orbit, everything is in the correct way. And so it's going to be a multi-year trip in order to do that.

Well, the things that you deal with, especially, you know, with with with with with radiation with with the culture of human beings when you actually start talking to people. And they say, yeah, we'll probably be able to do Mars someday. Mm-hmm. Is there a return on an on the investment short term?

Uh, any type of return on investment to make money as a stockholder? Probably not.

“That's why governments do things like space travel because there isn't for any investor, you know,”

the immediate return.

And so, but when you look at it and they go on, we're probably never going to get out of the solar system.

You know, if we do anything, it will be as we do not like with Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 that is, you know, Voyager 1 was 79. It's still going out there. But it's like, they talk about the radiation that the radiation that you're exposed to. And then to go any, you know, late, you're going to have to, you know, people are going to have to reproduce up there and have babies. And the babies become adults because that's how long it's going to take because we're never going to come close to the speed of light.

And by that time everybody will be dead by radiation poisoning anyway because you won't be able to build a spacecraft that has enough protection from the radiation that you're going to encounter once you get out there. You know, you mentioned the depotion and this quest to explore more and then have people go down there and it's, you know, in a number of cases, it's ended badly. Then you go to the other extreme and that is those who want to climb Everest, the highest peak 29,000 and 35 feet cruising altitude for an airliner.

And this season in 26, it was almost 850 people that's summited. A Sherpa was lost and a Sherpa was with their party, it was a small party, only a few other people. And stopped to take a break and then they don't know what happened to him after that. But life was lost. And in the Sherpa community, that's a big deal.

The avalanche a few years ago, it's, it is wanted locals to bring about change and the whole thing, the point being, is none of this is easy here on earth. Think about then multiplying that times. I don't know how many in an area that we don't know. We've had a number of people that have summited Everest and come back now.

Some of them, multiple times. One, Sherpa holds the summiting, I think, a record. But when you look at that, that again, these efforts are massive. And the question is, you know, for an investor, is it really an investment thing? Is it something, I know why Elon wants to do it.

But the fact is, is that long-term there may be some return, short-term, and also long-term. It's dependent on government contracts to a large extent. And that could change every four years.

“And that's to me, you know, is where you have to question, that the risk of the investment.”

And we'll see. We'll see where you go. Well, you know, I think about it.

Yeah, I always, I joked about it the other day to somebody.

And they said, you know, what's the return on the investment? And I went, well, probably like if you're a shareholder for the Green Bay Packers. If you know, like Green Bay is owned by actually fans have it, but there are no dividends. And the stock does not appreciate and value. You get no financial return out of it.

But people do it. Why? Because they own part of the Green Bay Packers. They want to say that. That's, you know, again, that's that regional culture or, you know, local culture.

A fan culture, which is, I have zero problem with, you know. And when you look at, for example, when you look at, you know, and, you know, an NFL regular NFL owner.

They make $10 or 20 million. And again, well, all that investment you paid for billion dollars. Yeah, but that's not what you're buying. You're buying the fact that five years later it's worth. It's going to be worth, you know, eight billion dollars.

Yeah. And so you can sell it and somebody's going to buy it.

“But why do you buy a foot, why do you buy that team?”

A lot of them buy it. I've never, by the way, I thought when I was younger, I'd want to own a sports team.

I'd never want to own a sports team. I could not be that immersed every day. No. In, in the, in a particular sports, I just couldn't do that. It just, it would drive me crazy.

Way too many moving parts. Yeah, I just wouldn't, I wouldn't want to do it. But, and, and so you, you look at it that way, too. And, and, but I just, you know, I look at the IPO and I go, okay, fine. It's a free market.

It's a free market. People can do what they want. Sure.

“I don't know what the return on the investment's going to be.”

I just, you know, see what the stock is a year from now.

Uh, we live now. I was going to say we can now. Because that initial excitement is, is hype. It's, it's all hype. Uh, you know, I mean, look, there's some stuff that you can build in evaluation.

But, that, you're going to have to have a long-term trend here on what the company is. And also the competence of other stockholders. Because if other stockholders have all the other stockholders have started having zero competence, you'll see it because the price will drop dramatically because there will be a sell-off. And so you can't risk that even if you have the ultimate competence in the stock.

You're going to follow along because you don't want to sit there and wait for it to come back. It's not a Bitcoin move. Um, you know, it's, it's not a casino. Um, and so it will be interesting to see. And also, I guess, you know,

evaluation will there be any kind of integration with any other, uh, of Elon Musk's properties. Uh, when it comes to AI or any of that in SpaceX. I mean, there are, there already is. I'm sure to some extent, but that has to, uh, extend out to create. Um, evaluation to create some kind of revenue source ultimately or efficiency with that company to,

again, justify the valuation.

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But this story came out after the game. Committee and Jerry Seinfeld gave a blunt response to an influencer. Can we call ourselves influencers too? I know. I do not. I don't think I want to be an influencer.

That word is I can we be done with the word influencer. You know, so father, I'm an influencer over my children. Actually, I mean, I saw the other day that somebody saying we shouldn't call ourselves radio host podcasters that were technically multi-platform content creators. That's just tiring and influence. It's exhausting to say how about just I'm I'm Gary.

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Just quickly here. I got a predicament. Okay.

“Remember a couple of weeks ago when I flew two weekends in a row.”

Right. And both weekends in a row, I had to stay in a hotel overnight because my flights were canceled or drastically delayed. To the point where I didn't trust that they were going to take off. One wasn't going to.

And it was the first time in flying since really 1974.

And tons really over the last 30 years that I've flown. Like crazy over the last 30 years that I ever had to stay in a hotel. Right. And it happened two weeks in a row. Right.

And I had gone on Twitter. And you know, to American Airlines. And because the one was just fascinating. And I'll do it very quickly here. We were waiting for our plane.

We're in Buffalo. Waiting for our plane to go to Dallas. It's a nonstop direct flight. Charlotte was right next to us. The gate was right there.

Our plane is pulling up and it says, you know, Dallas boarding in 30 minutes.

“But the sudden the sign changes to Charlotte.”

Right.

And they say your Dallas flight is down at the other gate where Charlotte was taking off.

All the Charlotte people move because their flight was delayed five hours. They all moved to the Dallas flight. We moved down to where the Charlotte flight is. And they say your flights now delayed six hours because your plane has maintenance. And it was like, no, our planes coming in.

Their plane had maintenance problems. And the fact that they did that. And I know that American Airlines, I saw that after US air took over. You could see it at DFW. You'd sit there and you'd be your flight would be on time.

And then all of a sudden you'd see your flights delayed 45 minutes. And you look for the incoming plane because you can now do that all in the app. You can see you can follow your plane. And I've done that many times. If I have an evening flight, I'll follow my plane from the morning.

You know, and see where it goes. Right. So you're following the, you know, and you're like, well, wait a minute. That flight was in the air. It's supposed to be here on time.

Why are we going to be late? And you go and you check it out on the app. And you've got a different flight coming in. That's on time. But arrives after you're supposed to take off and you realize they're moving planes around.

So they would rather have every plane be, you know, a half hour late. Then one plane gets canceled. And they just keep moving all the way down the line. Yeah. Hopefully that they can resolve it.

Now, if you're at a hub and you've got so many gates, they can do that. Yeah. Well, there's no extra planes in Buffalo.

“I mean, there's, I think American Airlines has three gates.”

That's it in Buffalo. So you know, you know, what's happening. And so I wrote to American Airlines and I went, you know, Could you make it less transparent? We're sitting here.

Everybody sees what's going on. And then American Airlines wrote back to me. They said, sorry for the confusion. And one of our listeners said, he's not confused.

(laughter) Well, well, since that time, yeah. I can't get American Airlines off my thread. It's constant.

All I see is airplane complaints. Oh, yeah. And I don't know how to get, I don't know. No. What did I create here?

Is this, is this the punishment from X because I decided to complain publicly? Is American Airlines taking it out on me? And I even said later, I said, look, I understand the problems that they have. I knew they were doing this. It was just so, it was so transparent to your customer.

You shouldn't do that. And I had a guy who wrote to me and said, you know, he did that for years. He said, they screwed up big time. Yeah. And I said, yeah, and I just, you know, that was it.

I understand, I, I love flying American Airlines. I understand that so many people that complain, especially people that don't fly a lot. If you're flying somewhere and you get delayed and you got a vacation plan. And you can't get delayed later.

You can't take off. Yeah.

And if I don't want to fly one week and I can fly the X next weekend,

“that I'll cancel before, if I know it's going to be a bad.”

If there's going to be a chance of doing it, and I'm going in for a day and a half. And if the flight's canceled, it blows on my plans. I just, I just cancel because you can cancel right up to the, what is it, right up to the end.

You know, and I don't care about getting the, but you can't get a refund. I don't care. Give me a credit. I'm going to fly anyway. I don't need the actual cash back.

Right. But I created my, I created this nightmare for myself.

Where I can, and it's amazing.

And I, and I thought to myself, that's got to be the hardest job out there. I really thought that the hardest job for the longest time when, when my, when my Buffalo bills were in a 17 game or 17 year. Uh, drought from being in the playoffs.

I thought that their social media director had the hardest job in the world. Yeah. Because they lost all the time. And so they would throw stuff out. Hey, coming up.

We've got Bobblehead. We don't care when damn games.

“You know, I'm like, they just get blasted.”

I'm thinking to myself. They should make that American Airlines. Listen up here. That should be what your AI is. AI should answer all of those because I cannot imagine that the,

if there's an actual person doing that each and every day,

that they don't want to quit after a week. Yeah. Yeah. Because it comes in. You are the, you know, every and, and then I'm getting other airlines in now too for some reason.

And they're all coming into my thread. I'm like, I want to get the political stuff. How do I get rid of this? I don't know how to get rid of it. Am I thread?

I don't know how to do it. Yeah. I don't know how to, I don't know if you, if I block them or, if I block them, if it's like Facebook or whatever, but I just, it's driving me gaming on your feed or the thread from your original.

No, no, no, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry. I said thread on my feed. Okay. It keeps coming up in my feed. Yeah.

You know, one after, now it's a little bit less. It's actually a simple fix. Is it? Yeah. No, it is.

Delete your account. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's real simple. But that has to be the hardest job.

I'll, I'll take that. I mean, it's like every, there's, and I do see some people compliment them. They go, thank you so much. But there's nothing that they can do when they say, you know, please send us your, whatever the number is.

Well, and then they get the flight crew involved, you know, and, you know, because the people that get to, I can't believe what is it with, look, this is the flight crew. They're just trying to get you seated comfortably. Get everybody seated on time and keep the planes going as the best they can.

You know, you're trying to put a 900 pound tote bag into the overhead. It said carry on and you brought a yak. So, you know, let's all calm down about getting there on time. Oh, so I, how much do you weigh? I don't care.

How much does the yak weigh? I mean, it's just stupid. It's, you know, because I look at it is, I'm going to be in the chair at, you know, 25,000 feet for a couple hours and be halfway across the country. It's pretty good life.

“Yeah, that, I mean, that's how, that's how I look at it.”

And I've flown so much where nothing really phases me even getting the hotel. It was another adventure. Yeah. It was another adventure. I met a, I met a young woman, a teacher from the, you know, area lives way north, though.

Yeah. From me, she, I want to make this clear. She could be my, my daughter. Yeah.

She could always be my granddaughter.

But I made sure, she, you know, made sure got her room at my hotel that I stay in all the time when I'm there. And we went and had dinner and everything out. And it was actually a really, really great experience, you know, just to meet. And I've done that before. I've met always met great people.

And so it's like, man, whatever. You know, and I always put, I try to put very rarely do I travel on the day that I have to have to work. And if I do it's in the morning, and I know the flight's coming in, you know, because the flight comes in overnight. Right. But I try to give myself a day and so I've never missed a day of work yet because of a, you know, of a flight.

So I just take it and stride and I just look at it. You know, one, one good thing, you don't sweat the simple things. And when you travel as much as I do, and the airlines have given me the ability to live out of town and be there for my parents over the last 20 years. Yeah. So I can't thank them enough for it.

But I do understand a people that are traveling. It's like people are going to work. We're going on our honeymoon and we're supposed to leave Sunday. And they now tell us it's Tuesday, we're going to miss two days of our honeymoon.

Yeah. The passenger standpoint, you know, I've been there. And it's, you know, and it's, it's quite unfortunate. One time I had to be at an event and the plane here broke and they, you know, so the company that was flying me out. flew me to an airport that was, I don't know, six, seven hours away from the event.

And then sent a car there, basically, to pick me up.

And then you got to get in the car for six or seven hours. And it becomes extremely frustrating. It's happened, you know, a few times for me. But, you know, as you mentioned, it could be something like a wedding. It could be, you know, some people are traveling to pay their last respects to someone a family or

a member or a friend or something like that.

“And, you know, it's, it's important critical that they get there on time.”

But there are things within the control of those companies that run it. And a lot of things that aren't. And as I suggested, you know, for the people that, you know, are just so furious. All I did was when flight rate R24 comes, you know, you, you can check that app. Yeah, and you see how many flights are in the air and what I do is whenever, you know,

I, I like when I'm flying, you know, to see the plane. And they've got its sink now where your GPS keeps up with the actual plane. What I used to like is when I started first using flight rate R24 a few years ago, that app, which shows you where all the planes are in the country. And you can put in your flight and you can see exactly when you're in the plane where it is,

is that the GPS of your phone would be above or behind. So you'd find yourself a half mile in front of your plane or a half mile behind. Your plane. Yeah. Wow.

But when you see how many, you, you've landed DFW and you see how many planes are in the air. And how many are landing and how many are taking off. And I'm sure it's the same for Atlanta or Chicago or LA or in Spain. It's just, you're just like, I would not look at flight rate R24 with Atlanta. Just don't.

Just don't. Let's your pilot or air traffic control. Just don't.

“And again, we need to explain this, not for our audience, but, you know, our lower audience.”

But just some, some liberal who might be listening. If you look at flight rate R24, the planes are really not that big. Exactly. It's not proportional. It's not proportional to that airport or the country.

That's a seven, forty seven. They're half the size of Kansas. That's no, that's not how it is. These planes are all crashing into each other. It's going on.

Right. Yeah. But I mean, that's when I think about it.

Because I always look back, one of the shows that really influenced me the most.

I don't know why he just really had an impact on me was the history channel was the men who built America. Mm-hmm. And, and that's when I came to realize, oh my gosh. And so many brought this up in the last couple of weeks. Or somebody that brought it up, the camera rule was.

We live all of us live the quality of life that Billionaires had back at that time with the beginning of the industrial revolution. I was at Warren Buffett. He might have said it. Yeah. Yeah.

We all live our food is better. Now, he can say that because he's got two hundred billion dollars. Right. But our, as I said, except for real estate. Yeah.

And maybe the size of your home. Yeah. Your quality of life was the same. Sure.

“Our quality of life is what way better than what Billionaires existed.”

Oh, what Billionaires had back then all because of technology. Yeah. All because of technology. Our medical care is better. Our food is better.

Our transportation is better. Everything is better. Look at that. Look at everything you have available to you. Yeah.

You know, don't want to cook. Tap something on your phone. And someone will deliver it in minutes. Yeah. And so when I look at it and it's like stage coach a year to get across the country.

Yeah. Right. And I can sit there and I can go and, you know, I can fly in as I did a couple of weeks on a Friday afternoon. See my dad hang out with my dad.

See him a couple of times Saturday. And then fly back Saturday afternoon. We back here by seven o'clock. Yeah. I mean, my God.

I mean, that's just. And I, when you put things into perspective like that, you're just appreciative. And if something's going to go something is going to go wrong. Yeah. Something's going to go wrong.

If you're getting in your car, you're going to get in a traffic jam. Right. You drive and Dallas during the day. You're going to get hit. Well, I was thinking something.

I was seeing some some research on my family tree. Samuel Burke Burnett found her the four sixes ranch. He's in the family tree. And there's a story about him.

He's my, he's my third cousin.

And while he was, he died over a hundred years ago. But. So there's a point when he's becoming a rancher. You know, and he goes to get the cattle. I think in Kansas, but tells his men.

All right. We're going to get off our horses and we're going to walk. And they would walk on a regular basis along that route.

I think it's from Kansas to Texas.

And when they ran out of.

“They, they got here to Texas couldn't get them on the market.”

Couldn't sell them. Took them back to Kansas. Think about somebody doing that today. Not going to happen. We are right.

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