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starting your day. Welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Good morning. One more comment here on, on "Flock Cameras." What did law enforcement do before "Flock Cameras?"

“This is interesting because it involves me. This was back about 15 years ago, and I think you”

remember this story. I was sitting in a home one morning, and the doorbell rang, and I'm walking to the front door. I can see out that there's a police car in front of my house, and it says Irving Texas Police. Well, I don't live in Irving, Texas. This is really interesting. Yeah. Why is there an Irving Texas police car in front of my house? And as I open the door, a police officer at the door.

The first thing that police officer says is, "Hi, Gary. Good. I didn't wake you." And I went,

"Why did you think you would wake me?" It was like, I don't know, 11 o'clock or something. Yeah. And he said, "Because I'm a fan of your show." I'm thinking, "Oh, okay. This is a police officer.

“Well, a long way to come to my house and tell me he's a fan of my show." And that's why he was going to”

arrest you. Yeah, exactly. And a little bit creepy at the moment, but that's not why he was there. And he explained to me, he said there was an accident like a month before on 183, not an accident, over here at 183, which goes right through Irving, Texas, a fatality involving a hit car,

hit and run. It was a hit and run. Right. And the description of the car matched the description of

my vehicle. And not exactly, but it was close enough where they went, they were going through. This officer was going through. And other detectives, every single vehicle that they started like with an a mile radius and kept going out and out and out and out, looking for every single vehicle and going to every single house and asking permission to look at people's cars. Now, I had lived about five miles when the accident happened. I lived like five miles from there.

And then I moved and changed my address. They saw that. They saw that when the accident happened, my address was five miles away. And next thing you know, my address is 25 miles away. And he knew all of it and said, you know, kind of look at the the car. Now it wasn't in the driveway. It was in the garage and I said, sure. And I said, and he goes, and he goes, walk, go, no, not yours. How do you know? They're going into the question, how do you know?

And because the the whoever was hit was hit right with the headlight is, and if you replace the headlight, they can tell. They can tell because of the plastic lens in front. Yeah. Yeah. That there was, you know, right, we can tell because it wouldn't be because here's, you know, I go, how do you know, yours is dull. They go, okay. Like everything in your house and just smack the mirror and do yourself. But it's kind of dull. But I mean, that's how they,

they, they went every single. And they end up, I remember because we, I said, let me know if you catch who did it. They did. Remember, we talked about that day. Yeah. And real, real nice guy.

“And then I think he retired a short time after. But that's what they did, you know, in, in,”

in flock cameras, they'd be able to immediately just, you know, narrow it down in that time period, you know, as to cars that, you know, if they had a flock camera, two miles away on both sides of it, you know, who was going around and then if they had a, you know, flock cameras on exits, they would have been able to figure it out a lot quicker. Sure. Yeah. And so, yeah, just what they, just figured out through that out, what they did beforehand. Yeah. It's, it's, it's,

look, I assume there is surveillance everywhere. I, what's, what's weird to me, are the porch thieves, the package thieves? Yeah. They know, they know there's doorbell camps. They don't care. And quite often they're wearing something that would be recognizable to

and it might have been it. I know somebody who wears that sweatshirt or whatever,

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you know, if you take the, again, the flock safety systems is basically selling whatever the

software, so you can monitor it from a police department. But for example, if one of my, my neighbor, let's say my neighbor is killed. Police will ask every single neighbor, because every single neighbor has a camera. Can we look at your cameras? Can we look at, you know, the last, oh yeah,

“yeah, can we look at that time period? And then every single car that goes by, if they can identify”

that car and the license plate or anybody who walks by, they will question. Well, in fact, with, with, with, with finding Brian Cobb who killed the four Idaho students, they saw this vehicle on initially, in that, in the vicinity, right up close to the home where they were killed,

they saw this vehicle and, and they were able to get a rough profile, basically, knowing that

it was kind of a small, the mid-size sedan, it looked like they really couldn't get, because it was at night, what would happen is the, the headlights of the vehicle, we kind of blinded out a lot of the details of the vehicle. And so they didn't, they didn't really get anything that was absolute until and they're going, this requires all the footwork of the detectives who did such a great job and, and, and, and most often do, they're very thorough. They know what they're doing. They go to

local businesses and they will, they basically found on his way home after committing those murders. They found one stretch of video that was, I don't know, less than three seconds, where he goes under a street light. So you see the actual profile and it was from the side, the actual profile of the vehicle. They were able to narrow it down and then they, you know, got to the point of having the DNA on the Sheath and then matching the car to people who owned,

you know, that they narrow it down to, like they didn't in your case. They narrowed it down to how many people in this region, in this area, own a vehicle like this and then they start going door to door if they have to. And so, you know, you, you look at, at how many cases are solved through that kind of surveillance when we think of the flock cameras or, or anything else, that is a positive. Now,

“it is, again, I believe it's up to the people in those areas, whether or not they feel comfortable”

with those cameras being used and to what extent they're going to be used. Because there are flaws. My, one of my fears is being falsely accused of a serious crime. You know, it's one thing to get pulled over and the cop says, I don't know you were doing, you know, 75 and I don't know, I was only doing 68 and, you know, that's, that's not being falsely accused. You have, you have a way to challenge that actually if you wanted to. But if you're talking about serious crimes and being

charged with a serious crime, because of vehicle that hits the profile or whatever it might be, or even somebody else operating your vehicle and uses it for the commission of a crime and then return your vehicle, maybe borrow your car, return your vehicle, you're on a wear of it, you know, those kind of things can happen. And usually, good police work will prevail. But sometimes people are accused of things. And I understand the whole privacy thing. How much do we want the government

we go back to the NSA, a phone data, right? Which is different. But if you build a profile based on,

“well, they made these calls and these calls, here's a pattern of calls that tell you what might”

be going on and you can build a profile of a person. That implies that you keep, that you use in the future, even if it has nothing to do with that actual crime. But the algorithm, whatever fits it, I want to make a clear different differentiation here between what I was saying about, you know, your people having cameras and somebody like your next door neighbors, murder, whatever that the police would want it. I still don't have to give that to the police,

they could get it, but they'd get a warrant in a second for that. Oh, sure. If I didn't give

it to them, they'd get a warrant, which is the difference, the police don't need a warrant

“for flock safety systems to get it. That was part of the things, you know, because they have”

the access to that database to begin with. And the other thing is, as you mentioned, the woman police officer in Massachusetts, it was using the flock cameras to tail her ex, yeah, you know, this is when the abuse is come in and the thing is there's no doubt that eventually some level of government somewhere will abuse that technology. When it becomes no doubt, when it becomes systemic abuse of gathering information and deciding, okay,

this person has a habit of, and it's not even criminal or or risen to any kind of crime at all. There's no specific crime, one crime involved in any of it, but you see, well, this person goes here, they go to a clinical psychologist office, and then from there, they left and went to a gun range. Yeah, exactly. Right. You know, they're taking the same thing. I was thinking, you know,

“and and we're building a profile of can be hated. Can we use that to deny their permit in New York?”

Yeah, should we now start surveilling this person? Now, there's also, I mean, in reality, on the other side of that, okay, we've got record or some kind of indication, this person bought a ton of weapons and ammunition and then a flight to where an elected official is going to be there. That is a red alert that the Secret Service should absolutely follow up on. But if we're talking about the everyday events of a any individual, of the public in general,

you start building profiles and then start asking the question because in the big government mindset, it is, well, we might be able to prevent something, even if it's not a serious crime involving a fatalities here or something like that or a murder, we might be able to prevent this or that if we were able to control people's behavior or monitor them more closely and track that, you know, yeah, exactly, you know, and and just not three women floating in some kind of hot tub,

yeah, or weird gel. And that's the whole, you know, concern here is how it might be put to use building profile on someone who actually isn't related to a particular crime. If you build to profile on a person that's in the records of a criminal investigation and it's related to that investigation, fine, you know, you're going to do that. This person did that and, you know, in the investigation of the detectives, that's going to happen. But if it comes because of something that happened

and you notice to pet them, we just saw that person do that or do that and then go do this. Unrelated to this crime and you build to separate profile outside of that investigation, that's where the problem comes in. Exactly. And when we live in a day, when Western nations

are putting people in jail for free speech. Yes. Yes. Then there is room for ultimately,

if we're to say, oh, no, this couldn't, you know, go on and check, there's going to be a great concern because, again, it's not just like a with a red light camera, it was built for a specific

that into a civil fine and then you weren't able to face your accuser and some states said, no,

“we're not going to allow that. This is different. You're building, if if you're building profiles,”

any agency within a jurisdiction decides to build profiles of the moving about of individuals, you know, in their daily commute or whatever they're doing or they could be used against your political opposition. It could easily, you know, where we're seeing this. And by the way, it will see certain things like bumper stickers and yes, people still have bumper stickers. Oh, yeah, we'll take it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And things like that. And oh, well, he has a, you know, he's a

rack on the top of the roof and look, he's driving a large truck. He's got an American flag on the back. You know, clearly a Trump supporter. I mean, it those are American flag dossier. Yeah. Exactly. So those are the things that actually go on. If you, if you're looking to build profiles and then target individuals for other things, well, we're going to look into this. We're going

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One is a real headline from a real newspaper and the other one is a fake headline. But both are worth it. I saw this in the New York post. I could not stop laughing. Here we go. You ready for this headline? I love the post.

In the dog house, AOC's sad sack X, Rally Roberts walks their pooch in first look since

the split news. They broke up two years ago. Sad sack. It's the sad sack. The got me. The sad sack. It's like mint it. The editor said they're going to look. We've covered Miranda divine. She had some great stuff. We've broken some big stories out there and tried to censor us and everything else in the government. Can you add something new? That headline in the dog house, AOC's X Rally Roberts

walks their pooch in the first look since the split news. We need something to spice that up. Sad sack. Sad sack. That's right. Throw sad sack in there. I love it.

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But it might not necessarily in the future be fake. Kentucky Derby convenes committee to determine what is a horse. That might be a future headline.

And he is here, Carly and I'm Gary McNamara. Download our Red Eye Radio app today and you can listen when and where you choose. All right. Now looking at that story in the near post where they called AOC's X a sad sack.

“I don't think so. I think he dodged a big bolt. I'm sorry, New York Post. I think you got the”

story wrong. It should be thank God you got away from her. Now I don't know what his personality is like. Yeah. But man, oh man. But the funny thing is they're doing it like it's a break.

The first look at him since the breakup. They broke up two years ago.

Yeah. So I just want you know what. But then again, maybe he's been in hiding for two years. Oh, depression. Yeah, mass depression. Mike, Emily or embarrassment. I can't believe I went out with her for the longest time. So I was I was looking at that headline on social media and this thing was the next thing that just happened to come up. I just saw this a minute ago.

“16 hours ago from the from PETA people for the ethical treatment of animals.”

I'm not I'm not making this up. And they have a picture of sardines on a plate.

Sardines are someone not a snack. Sardines are not an ingredient in the latest fading beauty trend or quick snack. They are individuals who want to navigate the ocean, interact with others, and experience lives of their own. Leave them out of your skincare routine and off your plate. Wow. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm looking here. Everyone's saying one two. Oh my gosh. I've gone through 10 now. Okay. Okay. All right.

Now one supports them. I'm through 20 now. I'm going through not one single person supports them.

Wow. It's so funny. One guy writes, okay. Oh, who puts sardines on their skin seems fishy

and goes, no, eating it for the benefits of your skin. I guess fish oil helps your skin. Yeah, you know, right. So there you go. I just I saw that one ahead of mentioned. Okay. We've got to cover this one because it's sort of proves the point that we've made that the media has become political activist. And it's a story Fox had it and then he also did an interview in a podcast. This is the whole story that came out really over the weekend about former ABC news correspondent Terry Moran.

And we'll get to the thing that he said about Fauci that he was going to do a story on the lab leak. Yeah. What he was told is, you know, he couldn't do it. And what he was told was Fauci Fauci read the script and said, uh, but it's where he admitted on Friday that his long-time network was liberal and struggled to understand President Donald Trump supporters because it's newsroom lack political viewpoint diversity. The co-host of the fifth column podcast Michael Moynihan asked

“Moran directly is ABC news, a liberal institution. Yes, but I think I think like a lot of mainstream”

idiots because of a lack of viewpoint diversity. That was one of the problems in covering Trump. Nobody had voted for him. He said he attempted to challenge the prevailing newsroom perspective by circulating internal messages about the network's Trump coverage. By the way, this was debated later on. I sent out these, hey, we should be fair to Trump internal emails. Terry Moran said, I heard from people some engineers may be an occasional producer who said, thank you.

And ABC news staffer told Fox News digital after Moran's departure that the veteran correspondent had clashed internally with liberal colleagues, but that his social media post left the network with no other option. Remember, he was let go because, or he contact was not renewed because he said chief of staff Steven Miller was a world class hater. And then that works so that post that post violated his, his, his their policies, whatever. There was a lot of flag when they said that

by the way. Right. But he said during front his interview, Moran drew a distinction between fairness and objectivity while discussing how journalists should cover Trump's attempt to change longstanding political norms. There is no such thing as object of objectivity in journalism.

president David Bozell said Fox News told Fox News digital that Moran spent years criticizing

“Trump and rejected Moran being an innocent observer of the bias. Terry Moran spent years”

proving ABC news is a liberal institution, including smearing Trump as a fear. Bozell said, now he admits a newsroom has zero pro mega journalist and lives in a media bubble, spares a new found candor. Moran was not an innocent observer of the bias. He now acknowledges he was one of the most enthusiastic practitioners. Yeah, I mean, look, we know it. It's it's very obvious. The the greatest concern is

how much people care because if you're an activist, you want the anchor of whatever media you watch to be an activist in your in your same mission, whatever you're trying to do, whatever

“your convictions are. That's that's what it comes down to. It it used to be”

and Walter Cronkite eventually said it. Well, yeah, we were biased, but we just felt like we were doing the right thing. We and we did a more subtle way. You know, I mean, he didn't say it this way because that it came later that people use this phrase. We wanted to be on the right side of history. You know, we wanted to, you know, do the basic and again, I'm paraphrasing. You know, we thought we were correct in doing these things. Well, then you fast forward to today, it's it's full on activism.

Whether you look at Walter on on meet the press or any of them. There's no way around that. This is the biggest problem that Barry Weiss has at CVS. We've been saying from day one, from the time day announced, we don't know how she's going to populate a newsroom. You know, they've announced some new additions to 60 minutes and we'll see where that goes. You're not the problem that she faces is you're not going to change the fundamentals of who

these individuals are. It's not going to, you know, one thing that Tim Russell, you know, who look, he was, I don't know if he was a blue dog Democrat or, you know, how he would describe himself today had he lived. But he did the work he was supposed to do. And that's all I care about. I don't care if you go to a rally in your personal time. I don't care if you, you know, it doesn't matter none of that matters to me if you're doing good work because I don't know Barry Weiss.

I don't know personally. I know the work that she has done in later years, including the Twitter files. And you look at wanting to find the truth. True journalism. I've said this a lot.

True journalism has a very critical role in a free society. But you can do it without being as they

call a partisan like Russ or to it. He simply brought up. Yep. Here's what you're said in the past. Here's what you're saying now. And it doesn't make sense. Explain it and then keep asking right questions. You didn't, you didn't explain it. Right here it is. Now that would be viewed as partisan today. Oh, yeah. But it's not political if you're simply taking somebody and what they claim their opinion was and and and brought it up. Now you want a a case of of uh I don't want

to spend a lot of time and it will probably talk about it through the end of the week. The the Cambridge professor that died Jason Arday and a lot written on him and you know that he had you know that he had plagiarized and everything else and they think he probably committed suicide.

He was the youngest professor at Cambridge was ahead of DEI promoted critical race theory and everything

“else and so much of what he said about his own life is experiences. He plagiarized a ton of stuff”

even the liberal media figured it out and what you saw over the weekend from a lot of liberal media it's a shame how everybody went after him for these allegations. Yeah. You know and then his family doing the same thing and he even in the last statement that he made or to someone said

and you lied about your life and everything else. Yeah. You know and for a reporter to put

it that way without talking about the fact that if you do something wrong and you're called on it and you commit suicide because I'm not still not the official cause of death but they believe that's what it is. You decide you're going to check out because of it it's not the fault that somebody

“discovered your lie. Right. That's where that's what I look at and go that's political activism”

when you don't put it in context. You can say the family is furious at people that have done this but the fact is the allegations here here here says he plagiarized this. He plagiarized this.

He lied about this. He lied about this. He lied about this and then the discussion gets into the

fact that okay he only got his position because of DEI his life was a lie and his work was a lie because it was plagiarized. Right. If you're going to be fair you can bring up that the family is furious at the criticism but then you bring up what the specific criticism is and whether it was valid or not. Right. And a lot and I saw a few media outlets didn't do that but I want to get to Terry Moran though talking about the Fauci about him wanting to do something on the lab leak

“early on. And here it is. I will tell you the story the one time that I did feel the heavy hand of”

censorship at in my work at ABC news. So shortly out there's COVID. So it was like early in 2021. Maybe January, February. I'm seeing online and elsewhere. People that I thought were smart and serious. Jamie Menzel mostly saying and others maybe this leaked from the lab. And I was like well that's interesting. So I went to Nightline and I said hey you know I'd like to do a story on and they were like great yeah let's do it. So we just across the board we we talked

to you know molecular viralogists. We talked to people in the Trump administration who had been in the Trump administration broke a little news that that lab had been funded by the Chinese military despite the bad lady saying no it hadn't and that came from the security tip from inside the one of the three letter agencies in the government and we kind of laid it out. And at the end of the day my own personal feeling was you know talking to everybody is I thought it's probably

a little bit more likely it's natural but if you told me it'd leak from the lab fine and it's probably not cooked up it's probably not a fracking virus. But I didn't reach that conclusion I just laid it out and we're ready to go and the day that it that's supposed to air it gets reviewed and it comes back

to me and it is incomprehensible and I never never been angry I'm in the lawyers lawyers standards

and I was told Fauci oh and I said I can't do this and they're going to air and they you know it's a 2015 minute piece or whatever and I'm cursing and screaming in the in the booth and this is day of day of air and I'm just absolutely live it beside myself and I was and I'm usually I tried to be a good colleague that way it's important to be respectful of somebody on the other end of that mic taking it in in New York so they were in the editor and I but I was I've never

watched that story and never want to because it wasn't mine I didn't think and because most importantly because it was incomprehensible they'd put so many caveats in there and so many that and there was so legalized then it's a vague took the story that you did and either sent a copy of a transcript or a copy of video 2 Anthony Fauci it would have been it would have been script there you go wow we are right I radio coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley it's red I radio

“you know it's great but still a little weird for me when I think about all the former”

Democrats out there or people that are still Democrats that have verified everything that we have set over the years you know whether it's the Barry Weiss is the Michael Schellenberger's the you know Matt Matt tieabies the Alan Dershwitz is the Jonathan Turley's out there the tear Terry Moran out there but we didn't a Bill Mar a Bill Mar very she Bill Mar coming out going you know George Bush's whole thing on so security to come up with your accounts that wasn't

for ABC for years remember that oh yeah forgot about that yeah wow and wow and I you know

“and it's it's well John Stossel started being an investigative reporter he was a liberal”

eighth he thought he was going to go out and help the world save the world right and then all

of sudden he started asking questions and learning things next thing you know he's a libertarian

David Horowitz David Horowitz he started out he started us a liberal you know exactly so it's really interesting to see these these types of individuals go through that transformation by learning the facts

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“like try to stir you up for clicks I think I've been very level ahead and I've had to tell”

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