SC EP:1233 The Chronicles Of Tex Part1

it either heard me or smelled me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight

up and that that shocked me. They don't make people that big.

“The way it moved, almost as it was gliding across the beach, I've never seen anything”

moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chontering away, back and forth, back and forth and forth.

I know what a better look like and there is no way on this planet, the water I saw bears.

Hi, this is Jules Lily and Pearl from San Diego and you're listening to the best podcast in the galaxy. San Diego at night. Welcome to the show. Tonight we'll be chatting with Tex.

“And Tex had a YouTube channel called Texas Frontport, Cheese to Interview, I Witnesses and”

Bigfoot researchers, that sort of thing.

I know he's kind of redoing his YouTube channel.

Now it's Tex after dark, true crime and unexplained. It all included a link. Tex says a pretty good job. Over the years I've known about Tex and I've actually wanted to have him on the show. I was talking to Brent from the paranormal portal and he was like, "Man, you gotta have

Tex on, you gotta hear his dogman encounter when he was a teenager." And he didn't know what this thing was that he had actually run into. And many years later he started really looking into dogman Sasquatch and so I'm excited to have him on tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, choose me an email.

My email address is [email protected] and if you get a chance check out saskwatchcronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome my Tex to the show, Tex thanks for coming on. I am out with a message for the world but a long time coming.

I appreciate it, Tex. I've been a fan for several years and I was saying there in the intro that Brent from the paranormal portal was like, "You gotta have Tex on, you gotta hear the dogman encounter." So I thought we kind of started there. I know you have your YouTube channel again for the audience that used to be Tex's front

porch and now it's Tex after dark true crime and unexplained and I'll include a link underneath this episode. But if you would, would you start with a dogman encounter? When did this happen? If you would just kind of start from the beginning?

“I was 16 years old when it happened and it's one of those stories where you have to tell”

what happened and then go back because there's more of a backstory than just the encounter. Okay, because that evidently the critter had been around the area for a while and I didn't know. I don't even know what they were at the time. But what happened when I had the sighting, I was coming in from hunting. It was in North Central Texas about an hour outside of Fort Worth.

So I'm walking home and I had this place that allowed to hunt and it's about a mile from the house. And I was walking up the gravel road and a couple of rabbits hanging on my belt and my little four 10 shot gun with me, my ammunition, you know, and I was just about to cross

Because we had 20 acres out of dinner and just about to do that and this critter came out

“over the left on my left side and out of the brush, just full speed and ran across the”

road in front of me about 25 or 30 feet away. And I've got an image that's frozen my head, I draw it when I had to draw this encounter. This is the part that I draw. He's in mid-strived, right in front of me, he turns his head and he kind of snorls at me.

And he continued, never broke stride, continued his own and dove over our bob wire fence.

Didn't jump over, he dove over it and when he dove over it to hit the other side he went down to all four was real smooth and went into what we call a love grass up here or down here and it grows about three feet high and he went into that grass and I saw the grass move for about, I don't know, 10, 15 yards and then he was gone. At that point, I had a decision to make, right?

I could either follow him into the tall grass or I could take the long way home. Well, my ass wasn't going to the grass with him, I just didn't know he could not have that. Right?

“And so I took the long way home and I remember the most of the walk home is a border, right?”

Except I remember specifically turning the first corner and I remember thinking there's

my whole thought process was how to take in the road was, if I see maybe I can at least defend myself a little bit, you know, or whatever it comes after me. I mean, but honestly, this thing that wanted me, there wouldn't been nothing I could do about. But anyway, so that was the thought process, so I'm turning the first corner and I looked

down at my shotgun and I'm thinking, I think I don't ammo for this and it's just a little 14, and I'm not going to do nothing but piss it off. Even if I had ammo, but I remember thinking that, and I'm in the, like I said, the rest of the walk is a border and I got to the house and we lived in a trailer at the time. My sister lived next door to us about 30 yards away, something like that.

And I walked into the back door and walked into the kitchen and pretty much just collapsed into a kitchen chair and I set my gun on the table, well, that was a big frickin' no-no in my house. You do not bring guns into the kitchen, you know, and so I go, oh, I say if any country I'll kick your ass, right?

Yeah, so anyway, I've just walked down into the kitchen chair to table and I put my gun on the table. My mom was in the kitchen and I came in what she was doing, she was doing dishes or cooking or whatever. I clean it out of it.

“But she turned around and I think she was fixing the skull meat, you know, what are you”

doing with that gun in the kitchen, you know, but she just, when she saw me, she didn't say anything. She just looked at me and she goes, what in the world is wrong with you? Why does it go? And I remember this and it's weird because I remember this, but I was in shock because I

tried to tell her what it happened and it's not like I was stumbling over my words. I literally could not speak. So she panicked, she calls my sister, my sister comes over, they sit down with me and it took a better part of an hour to call me down and if I could talk and tell them what had happened and they didn't try to tell me, I was crazy, they didn't try to tell me, you

know, I was lying or anything like that. But they did try to maybe justify what I saw and if they make sense, you know, well maybe you saw this and you know, you're scared, you know, that type of thing. But I stuck to my guns and they were like, well, you know, so in that aspect and I've

always said in that aspect I was very, very blessed and lucky because they didn't have

reaction that most people have. I mean, you've been through it, I've been through it, you get drug over the cold, you know, told you crazy, told your line, you know, whatever, but that didn't happen. So over the course of the years, I said I stuck to my guns and I stuck to my story to

Okay.

“And I think it was just my way of kind of trying to cope with it, you know, make it, I don't”

know more human or more threatening, I made it for it. Perfect, that's a lot of things. So every once in a while, I don't get me wrong and this would come up here in a minute. But after I started going back out and doing what I was doing, and I would come back home, every once in a while, you know, I'd come back and we'd be sitting around dinner table and

somebody go, oh, did you see for it? I don't know. But this did. It really set me back on my heels, and you talked a thousand of people, I've talked to hundreds

of people, you know, one of the big things that we hear so much is that I'll never go

in the woods again, you know, or I'll never go hunting again, I'll never go fishing again.

“Today, you know, today's text, it breaks my heart to hear that stuff, okay?”

Because you've been, you know, if you've been roaming around the woods, most of your life, and then all of a sudden your scared to even go out the front door, you know, that's taking something away that you'd love to do, you know, but this did, this experience did set me back on my heels almost a year, and I wouldn't, for the first time since I was a little bit of kid, I was scared of the dark.

And if I had to go, if I had to go, you know, down in the barn to do something, you know, whatever, I'll go either go into my sister's house, and it was dark. It was at a dead run.

If I had to go down to the barn, I was loaded for a better, you know, and it was a short trip,

you know? Yeah, I don't blame you, I would have gotten down there armed to the teeth as well. How far away from you was it, Tex? And if you would, would you describe what you saw? Oh, absolutely.

It was, like I said, it was only 25 to 30 feet away. So it was, this was a close and personal, you know? It was anywhere from six and a half to probably seven feet tall, you know, it could have been a little taller. It wasn't big and burly.

It was built more the way I described it.

So there's a lot, like a lot of people described this, the saw squats down here in the style. They're built like an MBA player. They're not, you know, the big, burly, Ohio grassman or Pacific Northwest. This had kind of the same bill, but it had a big barrel chest and narrow hips, really

good size thighs. One thing that I think, I think a lot of people were misidentified in find this, because what I saw didn't have backward-facing legs, but this thing was up on its toes and the heel was really long and narrow. So that brings it off the ground.

So I think a lot of people may, when they see that, they think, you know, backwards-facing legs, you know, whatever, double it. But I don't think that's the case, but it was, the, the hair on it was, it wouldn't think, okay, it was thin, real thin hair, you could see the skin underneath, which kind of was a light, charcoal, dark ash color.

And I remember being, kind of remember being like wrinkled, like, like, as I get older, you

“get kind of that grape skin thing going and you have to moisturize.”

That's kind of what it reminded me of. But the hair on it was, it was black and it had some, it had some salt in it, you know, so I caught salt and pepper, but mainly pepper. But like I said, it was thin, you know, and it was long, because the hair hung down off the forearms probably at four inches and off its cheeks and its jaws and almost had

like them. If I, if I was to have a real thin, stringy beard, it was about the length, the same length as my beard, about six inches. And the snout, it wasn't like the point, it will snap, that you hear about a lot. It was short and it was blunt, okay, um, kind of like a, uh, some people call it a pit bull

like, to me it was more St. Bernardish.

had yellow eyes, it had red eyes, it had gold eyes, it had this.

But when I saw brown eyes, just like a dog, okay, one of the special about it, it didn't have a mouth and nori looking teeth, it was just T-90. The ears were different than what you hear a lot too, because you hear a lot about the ears sitting way up on the head and being pointed, you know, this wasn't like that. The ears were sitting lower on the head, almost even with the eyes, but they were, he

had a pin back, like, you know, you know, when you, when you, when you, you got a horse or a dog, it's upset to pin the mirrors back, the same way.

He had a mane, and this is where his hair referred up thick, he had a mane that started

where a hairline would start, right, on his head, and as it went down, it was long, and it was wavy, and it was thick, and it went across his shoulders, but then it went down to a V down in his back, okay, one of the, one of the things that really, really said K9 to me, I mean, all this is K9, okay, everything we talked about, but this really stuck in my head, because, you know, being in just no country boy, you know, you hear all these

wise tales, you know, and some of them were true. You know, if you see a halo around the moon, it's going to rain within three days. I've seen, I have yet, for that to be wrong, but, you know, you hang a snake upside down over a barbed wire fence if you wanted to rain, you know, all those kind of things.

But, one of the wise tales that, that was, I was always told, if you want to smart dog,

you get one with black in his mouth, okay, and this creature had pink and black model tongue and gums.

“I remember that, and I'm like, if, honestly, you could have told me this thing was probably”

an off-cheater saucecrudge, and I'd probably bought it, but for that. For some reason, that did it for me, that was that line in the sand for me. I remembered what, one of the first times that I was describing it, you know, in the family, and the first time I really set it out loud, kind of hit me hard, that had had hands, but they weren't like just human hands, and I've heard it describe this way before and it's

true. The hands look like a cross between, they were human-esque, but they kind of had a raccoon like thing going, the hadding and stuff on the raccoon's hands, you know, it had that, but it was, it was more of a human shape to them, you know, and the fingers were long and had, it had claws and they were black.

“You know, it, I mean, it was, that's how I describe it in the count.”

It was an underwear changing moment, okay. But yeah, that was, that was, I didn't know what to solve, because honestly, when this happened to me, and I'm 58, I'll be 59 next month, this happened to me when I was 16. And I can send a draw picture of it today, and compared to the pictures I've drawn over the years and nothing changes, you know, set for my lack of ability to draw.

But, um, yeah, after an encounter at home to you, it stays with you. It does. It does. It's one of those moments in life that, good and bad, you know, we all have those moments,

“that you will never forget, after that happened, like I said earlier, I was, for the first”

time, you know, since I was a kid, I was scared to die. And then after a while, about, I guess it was, eight, ten months later, somewhere in that time period, I started, quit being scared, I started getting mad, because I felt like, I was being bullied. And I'm like, I'm not going to let this thing keep me from doing what I was doing.

I loved when I was, you know, you, you take a country as kid, it was best friends as dog and his horse, and he got nowhere else to go. You know, um, you know, as a little walk, you chaining to a damn tree, you know, but I don't

dictate what I can and can't do.

“And the way I got over it was, I convinced myself that this thing had the opportunity”

to hurt me if it wanted to, and it didn't, you know, it didn't slow down. It was, it was wanting to get away from me as much as I was wanting to get away from me, you know. So, you know, I started, and I took baby steps, don't give me wrong. I go, you know, walk out in the pasture, I go, and I start camping in the front yard

of the backyard, and I go camping to pasture, and I go a little further, and I go a little further. And I started getting back to what I was doing, until about a year later, I was going back out to hunt this place that I would have been coming from when I saw the thing the

first time, and I was just about to, it was a patch of woods that this old man owned,

“he had, I think it was 12 or 16 hundred acres, he had about half of it done as a hayfield”

that was cleaned up real nice. The other half he hadn't touched, and it was really wooded. I mean, really thick. You had to travel the game trails to get through it, and then you'd be walking through there, and all of a sudden, you'd come up on a clearing that just had that little 12-inch

parade grass in it, maybe a scrub oak, and you could throw a tent, and in the sizes of these clearing were anywhere from pretty much, you could just head in for a tent to almost the footprint of a small house, right, and that perfect. I mean, it was great, and the game was just man, there was a lot of game back in there. But anyway, I was just about to go over the fence, because there was a tree that we hadn't

saw it up yet that it fell over his fence. I was used to, I just run up the tree and jump over the fence, and I was just about to step up on that tree, and I heard what I thought was somebody walking in the woods. And I said, hey, who's out there, and it stopped? And I said, hey, I said to somebody out there, let me know, and it just shifted its weight,

or it took a small step, whichever, and there was a set of twins that lived on the other side of these woods that I went to school with, and they hunted those woods, and I hunted these woods. And I said, look, they would dug, if that's one of y'all, let me know, same thing, shifted its weight.

So now I start flashing back, and I'm getting scared, I said, if that's somebody out there, you better tell me where I'm going to shoot. Well, this probably when I did not make the smartest decision in my life, I shot around up in the air, and that's when all hell broke loose. This thing came charged through the brush, I mean, branches breaking the whole nine yards.

And what's I ain't to proud brother, I'll tell you right now, this country would tuck pellet ran. I didn't look back, you know, I say all the time, but this thing was going to smash me up, I didn't want to know about it, I don't know, when he gave up Chase, I don't know if he made it out of the trees, I didn't care, I ran all the way back home.

And now that little encounter up there set me back a couple of months, you know, I'm like, man, what am I dealing with here, right, you know, what I started, I said, well, this thing's had two chances at me, and I use that same logic, you know, why it's not hurting me, it's scared to hell out of me, right, but that's all it's doing.

So, I started going back out and I never encountered it again, but you fast forward years

and years and years, you're like, and I never talked about it, that's, I mean, we're

“talking early 80s all the way through to 2015, I think 2014 maybe, when I first came out”

with my story, I never talked about it, except to, you know, family and, and we didn't really discuss it that much, and I have some very, very close friends and one of them had an encounter that we, he spelled one out when we were drinking, and he was really the, him and a couple other select few people who I told about, but otherwise I didn't talk about it.

Well, and I remember, I remember this like it was yesterday, I was at work and had some

seeing these shows pop up, years of one of them, but I start seeing these shows pop up that

“are talking about this thing, dog man, because I didn't know what else to call it, except”

the wearable, right, because the term dog man had to be calling at that point. I started looking into this, and I'm like, there's people seeing the same thing that I saw, you know, I'm not by myself anymore, and I've contacted this woman, and we're still friends

to this day, Danielle Stedman, she's got a channel dog man diaries, and she's the first

one I reached out to. And I contacted her, we talked, and I told her my story and everything. She started, what was cool about that? She started asking me questions about maybe what was going on in the area, and that type of thing, and I started putting a lot of, you know, connecting a lot of dogs, really. This thing had been around for a while, and I just didn't know it. About a year before my society, we had a dog go missing, and the only

way we found it was we started smelling, only was underneath the house. Well, I got falling told to go, pull him out and rent the house. And when I pulled him out, it was, it was rough. I mean, it was rough. It looked like somebody had held him up by his front legs and just gutted him. And my dad, you know, my dad's wanted to say, hey, get over it. You know, drag it dog out and we'll bury him, you know. And when I pulled him out,

I said, God, dad, what, what do you think did this, you know? He said, well, he'd probably got into it with a bobcat or something, and drug yourself on the trailer, and then, you know, predators to, you know, toward whatever, you know, I'm like, what do I know? You

“know, that's what that says, right? That knows more. I do, right? So that put together with”

what she started asking me about what went on in the area, if there was anything that

kind of came up missing that type of thing from that you hear about. And we were always

hearing stories about, you know, from neighbors that, you know, an old cow dropped a calf and either the calf would get killed or she'd get tore up or both of them or whatever, or, you know, over a drop of food and the same thing happened, you know, some goats get killed that type of thing. Chickens, whatever. It always got blamed on one or two things. Now, we do have the occasional big cat in the area. A big cat, if you, some of your listeners

don't know, big cats have a huge territory that they grow in. So, you, you know, if you see one, if you have one, and he's just making his way through, through your area. He's not going to stick around all on time, you know. But you know, he's missing animals, the

tore up animals, killed, you know, whatever, always got blamed on either a big cat or

there's mysterious pack of wild dogs that me and my friends that camp and ran those woods and that whole area, you never saw. We never saw his mysterious pack of wild dogs that was killing everybody. So, putting that together, you know, it's like, well, this thing, it was probably this critter that was doing this, you know, leaving these K9 tracks or somebody who didn't know the difference or whatever, you know, they might have mistaken for a cat track,

but there was one other thing that happened. And this was probably, I say, I say I never saw

“it in yet, but I'm not real sure if this is what this was. I believe it was, but I don't know”

I can, you know, I didn't get it and got it for a cat. But I was at home one night when we came by myself, parents went out of town. So, here I am 17 18 years old, and it came this just a monster freaking storm, right? And I love storms. So, I'm sitting on the couch watching out the window, watching the storms at the back window. A lightning flashes, and I'm looking out towards the back of the house, and I see this thing standing next to a power pole. We had

a back fence ran a power line, right? And I see the lightning flash, and I see this thing next to this power pole, I'm like, what was that? Lightning flashes again, and it looks like somebody standing out there by the power pole. When the lightning flash, it would change positions. I'm like, what end up? And it's raining. Oh my God. And so, I'm watching this thing, I'm watching

I load my dad's gun, I've got it my lab, and I call it, I'll use this term loosely.

“A friend of mine from school, I called him, and I'm like, he goes, what's up? I said, man, I've got,”

this, I've got somebody, I even want to say, I got a wearable for watching me. You know, I said, man, there's somebody outside the house watching me, and it's doing watching the house. He says, man, I don't know what you're smoking, but give me some of it. I ain't got time for this, when he hung up the phone. So, I'm sitting, I go, get back on the couch, and I'm watching this thing,

and I'm watching this thing, and I finally just passed out. I woke up the next morning,

oil in the shotgun on the couch, you know, but I did go out, and because I wanted to find sign of this thing. I wanted to find out what I was, if I was seeing something, right? Well, that didn't do me any good, because all the tracks have been washed away. So, I don't know what I saw

“that time. I think I know what I saw. One other thing that I found that she said could”

possibly be a kill site, next to this, these woods that I hunted was a place that these people ran it or at least, and they kept their horses out there. They were town people and they'd come out and they'd ride their horses and, you know, and all that kind of stuff. They just packed up and freaking left. I mean, just poof, they were gone. Of course, being a nosey-ass teenager, you're, I go over there and you're looking right up, you know, and I find this almost fully

intact horse-skilled. It still had hide on it, but it was mostly skeletal remains. It wasn't scattered like it should be. You know what I'm saying? For the predator, if that horse that had died, that skeleton, the body should have been scattered around, right, my creedation, but it really wasn't. I mean, there was a few bones moved, don't give me wrong, but it was like, you could, it was a horse, full grown-overs. When she, you know, I was talking to Danielle,

she said, well, that may have been a kill site, and that may have been why nothing touched it. And it could have been why they left. At that point in my life, I just thought it was cool to have a freaking, or skull in a rock garden for my own, you know. But I mean, you put all that together,

you know, what he got, you know. You know, through the years, I always thought that people were

misidentifying what they were seeing. It must be something else because an upright canine makes no sense. You'd be hard pressed to convince a scientist that an upright canine actually exists. You'd be hard pressed to like, you know, even a dummy on the street trying to sell it to him. But this is what people were seeing. And many eyewitnesses were, I've questioned them, they were like, oh no, this was canine. This was not a primate. And in some of these reports, you know, you'll get where

eyewitnesses will say, it had glowing eyes. It wasn't eye-shining what they saw. Sometimes you'll talk to eyewitnesses where they'll say it was eye-shining. Other times, eyewitnesses will say, no, those eyes were glowing. And I'm talking about from like a hunter who's seeing eye-shining

a million times. So he knows what he's looking at. And they'll come back and go, no, those eyes were

glowing, which is weird because you'll also find that in Sasquatch reports. But with the dogman, sometimes eyewitnesses will say, it had a tail. Other times they'll say, it didn't. I've heard descriptions like what you talked about with your encounter. I've also heard descriptions of, you know, look like a German shepherd in the face or look like a government painter, you know, government painter type years. Why do you think that there's such a broad range in the

description of the characteristics of this creature? You know, I don't think it's a creature. I think it's probably a demon. It acts more like a demon than a wild animal, the way it loves

“to torment people. But why do you think there's such a broad range in the descriptions?”

Well, you know, I think, unless it's my humble opinion, that's a couple of bucks by a couple of crocks. But I think that we've got more than one phenomenon going on because there are encounters like you talked about that don't sound physical. They don't do things that a physical creature

but I think a lot of people or miss identifying that with Isha. The different colored Isha

and you can do this experiment on your own folks. I've done it. Let your dog out in the backyard. When the sun starts going down, watch his eyes because it doesn't take much form to reflect. Okay, and depending on the light you're using, the ambient light that's available and the angle of his head and the color of the dog's eyes. There's a whole bunch of determining factors here. We'll change the color of the Isha. The dog simply turned its head a little bit

“and we'll change the color of the Isha. So I think a lot of that is that can be explained away. That way.”

But I think as far as the whole demon aspect that you said, I think there are, I mean we've heard reports of them getting in the house that topic. And disappear. And just like the, you know, the, we hear a saucecrush doing the same thing. I personally think we got some different phenomenon that we're dealing with. I think there's legitimate physical creatures out there, but also think there's something else out there that may be either a lot like them or in appearance,

but they're supernatural. Or it's something that wants to appear like them. You know, um, you get me, get me started on mind speak and all that kind of stuff. I've got a bunch of thoughts on that, but anybody don't like it, um, yeah, I'm going to push

back for a second text because I've interviewed many, many eyewitnesses over the years.

“And I think if you get one person that goes, oh yeah, those eyes were glowing, you can kind of”

write it off and go, well, they're probably a mistake. And there's probably eye shine is what they saw. But I'm talking about like from hunters who have seen these things. I remember one guy asked him, he, he talked about the eyes. He goes, the eyes lit up like Christmas lights. And I said, oh, it was eye shine. And he said, no, no, this was an eye shine. They're lit up like Christmas lights. And I said, were they, so they were glowing? He's like, yeah,

they were glowing. This guy had been hunting longer than I'd been alive. I think, you know, you can brush it off. I think one trap that a lot of researchers fall into is it didn't happen in my encounter. Therefore, it doesn't happen. And it's a pit, a lot of people

“fall into. And I think there's too many people that had been reporting this eye glow. And when you”

really question them, you know, this guy in Texas says their eyes are glowing. Well, he must be crazy. Well, then you get a report from Pennsylvania. Well, that guy must be crazy. Then you get a report from Washington. Well, she must be crazy. Now, these people know each other. At some point, you got to stop and go, maybe it's crazy. I'm not listening to these people. I want to back up

for a second. You had made the comment about some of them are paranormal and some of them aren't.

And some of them are kind of an imposter and posing as them. What would present itself as one of these things as opposed to a normal animal? And why? Why would they do that? Well, is it possible? Okay. So, we're going to jump into the paranormal side of things. Now, doing paranormal investigations, I do. When you're doing investigation, you're picking up a EVP, isn't that type of thing, or you got it, you're running a ghost box, and it's telling each print networks, whatever.

You run into these things that say their kids, or say their love, which I personally don't feel like they are. I think it's, you're tapped into something. You're communicating with something, but I don't think it's what you think it is. Evidently, the paranormal, these paranormal creatures called demons, whatever you want to call them, know our minds. Okay. So, what if these things know our minds? They know that these creatures exist. They know that we're scared of these creatures.

And that's how they're presenting themselves. I think that's a possibility. I'm not saying

entities that just look like these creatures? It's just a coincidence? I guess. The thing about it

is, and Jason, the different Jason McLean, has a brilliant saying. He says, "We can't tell, we can't say what these things are, because we don't know what they aren't." You know, even when the paranormal though comes up, people are terrified, not because they ran into some ghost, because they ran into something very physical that could kill them. Do you think that

“they're natural? I think the physical ones, and I'm going to draw that line, and saying”

the physical ones, yeah, I think they're natural. I have a theory on where dogman came from.

Let me ask you before you go into that. Have you ever had an encounter come to you from an eyewitness that wasn't physical? Because they all seem to be physical. All of my ripped-it encounters, I would say we're physical. When I talk about it, I'm not the infysical. I'm talking about the encounters where you have, they'll see one footprint next to you. Then they should have seen a lot more, or they do what they call cloaking,

or they phase in and out, or they walk in into a tree, or they just disappear. That type of

“thing. I think those creatures are not physical. I think those are some kind of supernatural”

paranormal entity. Everything I've created that I've seen, I don't know how to say this, but I feel that they were physical. If that makes any sense. I guess my follow-up question to those eyewitnesses would be part of you seeing it vanish. Did it appear to be physical? I can tell you the answer. It's one hundred percent of the time. It's yes. It was very physical. And that's part of the fear because it is physical.

But it's doing something that isn't physical. I guess for me, it's hard to separate the two. I don't, it's kind of hard to put them in two different boxes. Well, these are this over here, and these are this, it looks like the same creature. It's doing the same thing. A lot of the reports of the weird stuff, even when their eyes are glowing, people are terrified because what they're

“seeing is physical. You mean your thoughts on dog man? Where, where do you think they come from?”

I'm very curious on your opinion. Well, it's pretty far out there, but it's also pretty grounded. I think that these things existed because there's not an ancient culture in the world that doesn't have reports of these types of creatures in their history. Spoken history are written, it doesn't matter. Thousands of years ago, right? Well, I think after the Great Flood and that's another thing that is in almost every civilization's history is some kind of flood.

I think in the Great Flood that most of but not all of these things were drowned or killed, whatever, but I think there was a few that survived and what we're seeing because if you look at the Egyptians especially and they start talking, you start talking about the armies of dog-headed soldiers. Okay, a net top of that. Even lion-headed soldiers. And these things were looked at as gods. They were super hyper-intelligent, the whole nine yards,

but then after the Great Flood, you don't hear that. What you do here is you start hearing these sporadic encounters. Okay, what if, and this is all I'm doing. I'm all I'm asking is people out there to just go, just say what if. That's all I want. I'm not saying except my words gospel for sure. Just say what if. It's all you gotta do. But what if a few of these things survive and if they're able to interbreed with either with other ant with other tannons or humans

or both that what we're seeing today is a, for a lack of a better term, a dumb-down version of what

we're seeing so many different descriptions of them now. Now I saw a picture of one that looked

“like a freaking snowser. It's, um, what if, that's what we're seeing. If we're seeing the,”

to save their species that they interbreed with either humans or canons or both. And we're seeing that, you know, that's my theory and where they came from. Where they, I think they were created like everything else. And I do, I am a creationist. Okay, I believe that God created all the animals and everything. And I think he did create these things. But they kind of went left. I mean, there are, maybe the, maybe the dark side had a play in it, you know, back in the day and they

never lost that. And that's where we get the whole, they just like to terrorize people. We're just

like scared people, you know. Yeah, I appreciate your thoughts on attacks and you're right throughout history. There has been reports of these things. I think even Marco Polo talked about them. But throughout history, you do find these things and coincidentally enough in Egypt, they worshiped it as a God, mission wonder why. But 2014, you started kind of looking into Sasquatch and you had an encounter at that point. Tell me about that. I had been in contact, you know, after I got,

and I was talking Danielle, I started talking about my stuff, my own counter. I got hooked up with this little boy that had a YouTube channel and he invited me to go out to his research area with

with him. And I'm like, yeah, sure. Why not? You know, I'd never seen a Sasquatch. I believed

“him. He'll my family's from picture canna. Yeah. You know, with, and I think that's one reason”

that my, my family was so open to something that I saw that was weird. You know, because I, I grew up with, you know, big foot stories or felt monster stories before the movie came out. You know, like I said, I was, I was lucky in aspect because I got to support the lot of people don't get. Now, so this guy invites me out to his research area in Oklahoma. But at 30 in the morning, we drive up and we drive into a, uh, a wayfield. And it's, there's a hayfield and then there's

a thin line of tree, a thin tree line about 10 yards thick, maybe. And then next to it is a wheatfield. So we pull up, we park, we're going to go down in the bottoms, the floodplain down there, hang on on the red river. Park my truck, we get out. I'm, I'm taking in the lay of the land because

“I don't want to get out and he's damn bottoms get turned around. And, uh, for me, this is just”

a walk in the woods. I don't, I don't expect to see anything. I mean, you know, they're rare, and he's over here getting his cameras and stuff together on the side of the truck. And I'm looking through this tree line into this wheatfield, just looking around. And this thing stands up in the middle of this wheatfield. I could see him from out the waist up. He looks like he's, he looks both ways like he's fixing across the dam straight. And then takes off running down to the bottoms.

And like I said, I could see him from out the waist up. He's about 50 yards away. But I could see him from the mouth to waist up until he hit the fire break. And then I'd call a couple of steps ahead to toe. It didn't pick out any real definition, you know, um, because I was looking like said, I'm, I'm seeing this through a tree line. But I could make out that he was, again, built more like an NBA player than anything else. And he had a round head and just

jet black hair like he will groomed, you know. And my exact words were, I'll be damn, there goes one right there. And he's like, what? I'm like, yeah, he just ran off down there. And he said,

I was the third one, third person he'd had out there seen that one. He hadn't got seen yet.

So one thing that we did, we went over and measured the wheat. Okay, on average is about 4 feet high. And I saw this thing from the waist up. So this thing was every bit of eight foot tall. So we continued down into the bottoms and went down into the left, which would cross the path that he was running. And we start walking down through the bottoms, and we start here in this, we split steps up on the ridge on our left.

you know, poppin' his mouth, I think they'd be both. And then we'll walk another hundred yards and we'll hear a couple of footsteps, and we'll hear another pot. We think what he was doing is he was pushing like a family group in front of us, so we wouldn't walk up on him.

He was trying, you know, he was paralleling us, you know. We never saw him again, but,

yeah, that was my first, that was my first big foot sighting. First time I went out looking for him, like, you know, I mean, and I was hooked. I started going to, I started going after a lot. And I started having a lot more encounters, because I was doing something that not very many people do. I'm not going to sit here and try to tell you, I'm a Superman or anything else, probably more, you know, it's fine line till we break into stupidity and I've jumped that fence a lot.

“You know, but I would go out there by myself, because that's what I was used to doing.”

You know, growing up, that's what I just, I did a lot of full of stuff. So I would go out there and spend nights at a time by myself, and I started having these encounters. And we're all sightings, you know, just weird stuff happening, you know, and here and stuff, you know, catch a glimpse of something else, get a rock thrown actually, we're now in the end, that type of thing. You know, you were pretty young when you ran into a dogman, but here you are many years later,

what have you learned over the, like, the last 10 or 12 years of looking for these things? And what has kind of surprised you? Now, one, these things ain't evil, zero killer and the garments that want to snatch you up. I've been,

I've been pretty much knows the nozzle these critters, and they've never tried to hurt me, okay?

And odds are folks, if you've ever been camping out in the state park, national park, or heavy-booted area next to this good water, they've been around. Just because you happen to glimpse one that goes back to what we saw in my earlier, you know, people being scared to go out again. He's just happened to get a glimpse of one. You just happen to see him when they're screwing up, you know, or they won't you to see him,

“one of the two, I think that's why we see him. But they've been there all the time,”

ain't nothing going to change us because you saw one. I don't think they're dumb animals. They're very intelligence and intelligent, and I put him around a pair of sparsons and intelligence level, and I get beat up a lot for this. But that's mainly because people don't understand what I compare them to, if they did their research, they would probably agree with me. But I put him around it there with killer whales, as far as an intelligence web. You've got killer whales that,

you know, a pod will come in from another part of the world, and they will teach hunting techniques. They will strategically plan a hunt. You know, if you don't believe me, go look at the two whales that wash the seal off of the piece of ice and coordinate it. Look at, look, at the recent

“attacks by killer whales on boats that's been happening here lately. You know, it's, it's”

escalating when they first started to happen, and it was the pod was sitting back the adults. We're sitting back watching, and these were juveniles attacking these small boats. And the adults were just sitting back and watching. Now, you started to hear bigger boats getting attacked by bigger pods, 40 whales in these pods. Then you've got, you know, the female that, the cow that had a calf, and it died, she pushed it around grieving for weeks.

So, I do think that these things are comparable, and as far as intelligence goes. I don't think they, well, there's a caveat to these. I don't think most of them want to hurt us. Now, if you go back in the first nations, people, legends, there's all different kinds of interactions with these creatures. They're one's animals, right? Well, if you've got a

troop that, you know, never had a problem with humans, and, you know, they made trade with them.

They made their just, you know, lib side by side with them, whatever. But if you've got a troop that, you know, grandpa Bigfoot was shot in the ass, you know, back in the day, and he raised his families

as you and him. And I think that, and I use this, I use this analogy a lot. So, if you go down, let's say, let's say, you go down to the Amazon West. Okay, you're in your little boat and you're cruising down to the Amazon River, right? And you see a little village. You pull up on, you know,

never been contacted with it. And you pull up, you're, oh, man, you're treated like a god, you know,

they, they, they, they feast out in front of you. Welcome, you treat you good and all this kind of stuff. You say you're good buyers. You're getting your little boat and your two little downstream. You go about 10 more miles and you see another little village. You pull up and you end up being the

“feast. Okay. I think there is different as that. Yeah, I understand the analogies you're giving.”

Where would you put them in the family tree? Why did you ask? Okay. So, in 2023, we were out investigating an Oklahoma. And there's a cemetery that sits in our

investigation area. There's a cemetery that sits up on heel off the woods by 100 yards. Okay.

And we would go up there and we'll, we've had big foot encounters up there, we've had paranormal encounters up there, she's the hotspot. And I was actually doing a live show from there by myself, I put up in the cemetery that, I don't know, nine, 10, 11 o'clock, nine, 11 o'clock. And my safety team was parked at the bottom of the cemetery. There was, there was, uh, I told him Ranger and his son was down there. My truck was there. His truck was there and they were

“they were sitting in their truck and, you know, and my phone goes dead after about two hours.”

Where they haul asked to get up there and get me, right? Make sure I'm okay. I mean, it took us about 30 minutes to get back, you know, we, we hooked up and then we, you know, talked and stuff and we walked back down the trucks, about 30 minutes, 30 minutes, 30 foot on that. And they bailed out of the truck. They bailed out so fast. They left the keys in the truck. They left the truck unlocked thousands of dollars of equipment in the bed of the truck.

A bare-proof yettie cooler that was latched and it till gate was closed. We came back down and we noticed hand prints on our trucks and we started looking at them and they're not, they don't look right. They're, they're human-like, but they're not human. And none of them are above the rail of the truck bed and they're all reaching up. So they, what, and we, we think we identified three separate sets of prints. And so whatever

these things were, they were squatted down, walking around the trucks or they were that short. I don't know which, okay. And I've got one good, good print, really good print. And if you don't do, I'll send it to you and put it up later, whatever. But if you're going my channel and I'll make sure that it's, it's available because my channel's under construction I'm rebranded. But I will be back in March. But there is one print that is just excellent. It's not just a hand

print. It's a hand print, a forearm print and elbow print. Like, yeah, it's all a little mantra. It's such a good print that you can see where the hair was on the forearm, you can see the chicken skin

“on the elbow and you can see the dermal ridges from the finger prints. Now, that's important because”

I took these finger prints to law enforcement. I took them to wildlife experts and they all told me the same thing. I don't know what they are, but they're not human. Chester Moore is one of them that, and Chester is appearing here as a lot of weight with me. He's very, you know, he's very scientific isn't approach and he's very skeptical evidence and everything I like that. But he's

not critical. Like I said, he's just very, very straightforward and stuff and the body thinks and

he will not be issued. He will tell you exactly what he thinks and he's just back full of knowledge. Anyway, these finger print ridges. Now, every human finger print without fail, sorely. Okay. The he's go straight across horizontal and we're excited. We're like a bunch of little kids. We have found something. You know, we found this, this is one of the things that

the cooler had been unlaxed and closed, but not re-laxed. And there was water and ice dripped

out of the cooler, like something scooped its hand in and taken the drink. Okay. There was two hand prints on the top of his cab, on the edge of the top of his cab, and they were just side by side, and they had ice, our water dripped down in between them. If you've ever had a beard, if you scoop

“your hands up and you get a drink of water drips out of your beard, that's what it looked like.”

Now, if you want to go, I'm thinking around online, you know, just looking at stuff, and I came across an article at a France. And they had found a cave painting, and they were excited

about it because there was a thumb print that had been left on the cave painting. They dated this

thing to 48,000 years ago, and they're saying they're calling us in the Androfoil Fempering. If you take that thumb print compared to the one I pulled off my truck, they're almost identical. I'm not saying it was big but, okay, because I didn't see it. What I am saying is something 48,000 years ago, left a thumb print on that's not normal human, but they're calling the Androfoil on a cave. And in 2023, something with enough DNA in it

to lead the same kind of finger print, left a damn finger print on my truck in Oklahoma, U.S. Yeah, I've seen that before, the actual finger print is different

“from a human finger print. Were they greasy at all the the prints that you captured?”

They were the really good one, look like, that they had been because, okay, where a trucks report, it's a white gravel, cleats your road, okay, DNA stuff, it does, it's all over everything, so it will turn the brush, you know, the bush white, you know, on the sides of it. On the other side of the road, there's a set of springs that bubble up right there, where we park our trucks, and it runs directly underneath the cemetery, and that's a whole new

ball of wax right there, but it's a cold water freshwater spring, and it runs across under the road and makes a marsh on the other side of the road. And what I think is these critters were high in the other side of the road and that bad gun marsh, maybe kitchen frogs or whatever, I don't know, saw us messing around with there, saw these guys take off, I said, oh, let's go look at the trucks, and I think that this wind that let this really good print had been in the water

“and got collegiate all over, and that's what it looked like, it's dirtier than my truck,”

you know, and I've been there for two or three days. So, you know, you know, I get asked a lot about, oh, what about footprints? Well, you know, 11 o'clock at night, we're trouncing around, we didn't even think about it. Till we saw the footprints, then we're like, you know, we probably, you know, messed up anything we wanted to. So, what we would we want to look at, but we pulled another handprint a few months later off of another guy's truck that was

with us in another area, and it was a big, it was a big handprint. We got it in the freezer, bagged up and the freezer wanted to send it off to the United. So, yeah, that is interesting. You know, I wanted to ask you with your YouTube channel, Texas front porch, are you still, I know you're rebranding it, but are you still going to do Sasquatch and cryptids and that's sort of thing? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just not focused on it like I was. I'm still going to continue to

go out and field and everything. We've got it on going private investigation. We've been doing for a few years now. We've come to call the place dogman ranch. They've identified five different

dogmen out there. We've seen them, we've seen tracks, and we're continuing to, I have my first,

I don't know what to make of this, but I have my first pale crawler experience out there. Yeah, I want to save that for part two. I'm sure everyone in the audience just now hates my guts, but I have a lot of questions about that dogman ranch, and I know we're doing a part two. So let's save that for part two. I want to ask you, I know that you're a paranormal

ambition to speak to spirits that are liars and pretend to be dead or dead relatives or whatever.

Unless your title is the creator, I really have no ambition to speak to you. But what drives you to

“do that? And has there ever been a moment where you've been terrified doing it?”

No, as far as the pattern on the side of things now, and you can call me coaxer, you can call me early in call the coffnet, whatever you want to do, but I firmly, I'm set firmly in my faith, and I'm kind of a antagonist when it comes to paranormal stuff, because I like to call these things out, you know, bring it, you know, top thing. As far as the pattern on the side of the things now,

I've never been frightened. I've only, in fact, the only time even cryptid investigations,

I've only felt the need to draw a weapon one time. I think, honestly, running into the dogman, back when I was 16, tampered me for what I'm doing now. Because I've ran across the scariest thing out. I mean, come on. That's the way I look at it. And plus, I still, I still have that thing that same thought process of, I held these things and had all kinds of chances at me, and they didn't hurt me. You know, will the day come where I have a baritac or a cat attack that kills me? You know,

yeah, it's possible. But now I can get killed walking down the street. Why not, if I'm going to go out,

you know, and I've always said, I'm going to go out of this world, just like I came in,

but make it kick in the screen. You know, so if you've ever been out there in an investigation

“and it was just creepy, it was just a creepy situation, and would you share with us?”

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Um, you want to creepy experience? Well, there were five of us, and we were going up through the, there was a paranormal team, a mother-and-daughter paranormal team, fantastic people. They, they've retired from, they're not doing anything more. They were kind of when I was green and getting into the paranormal side of things, they were, they were pretty much my mentors, okay? And they wanted to go up to the cemetery. Well, they had been up the cemetery,

they made a trip up there, they didn't know what it was about. They just thought it was a cemetery, and they went up there by themselves, these two girls, and caught something on camera that I, I broke the video down and how I had didn't know what they caught and caught a shadow person if you want, but something materialized out of a tree takes form and turns around and walks off. It looks like a damn Java from Star Wars. This is what it looks like. Um, but even as it

do not go up or by yourself, and they were hearing puppies whining, often the trees, and I'm like, but, and they were like, "Well, we started to go look for them, but we, we changed our mother's." Oh, thank God. Thank you. Yeah. Um, get back to the prayer and almost

“up before I get to the experience. I want to say this. I think, and one of my partners and my”

investigator partners and one of my co-hosts is Monica Rollins. She's very knowledgeable in the faith, and I think a lot of what we're experiencing out there is what we used to refer to as the faith, and we just slapped different labels on it. But that being said, getting to the experience. There was five of us. It was it was me, the girls, and I'm calling Pops. Um, Jerry Spock Senior and his son, and so we go up to the cemetery. Well, Amy, which was the mother,

her, her husband was there, but he had parked down at the bottom of the cemetery beside my truck, and was just, you know, he, he was going to sit this one out. Well, earlier in the night, back at camp, he's a big old boy. I mean, he makes me look small. But Junior had made the comment, "Damn, he's a beast." Okay. Now, that comes into play. Okay. Now, my truck is gray, and I named my truck, Grace, and I named her after a serial killer's last victim that I wholeheartedly

leave, reached beyond a grave and got in contact. Okay. And that's Albert Fish. So, we're up there,

and they're doing their own thing. It's dark. The first thing that happens is if you've ever done

“a good shoulder and arm workout, you know, you get that flushed feeling, you know, and it almost”

feels like you're still lifting, you know, and stuff. You get that burn, you know, that last little bit. The first thing that happened was, I started getting that feeling. And I'm like, "Man, what is going on?" You know, and I started talking to Amy and Laney about it. They were like, "Well, it may be something trying to attack itself, do you?" And I just went, "Get off me." You're talking to that, and he quit. So, we're walking around. They've got one of his ghost boxes that it doesn't talk

to you. It just prints this. Spits the words out across the screen. We're walking along, and when I want you to remember, is this all took place simultaneously, okay? What was happening to us, what was happening to guys, all took place at the same time? So, we're walking along. I have that

little, you know, experience the old feeling, and then we get, and I can't remember which happened first.

“But anyway, we get three words coming across the ghost box away, solo-beast grace, okay?”

Well, solo-beast, all the Amy's husband is beast, and he's down there by itself. So, that covers that grace as a name of my truck. That's a lot of coincidences, a lot of coincidences. Then, we're standing there and we're talking. I'm wearing a headlamp, and Laney's got this right sun-like lamp that she uses as an LED thing, and it's like six by nine inches, and you can dial the intensity up and down on the light. Her light and my light go off at the same exact time.

Well, dark, we had to physically turn them back on. My came on with no problem. Her light, when she turned her light back on, the intensity doll thing was reversed. Now, at the same time, this is happening. Junior and senior over here, and they're seeing something in the trees, and they're describing

them as when they first saw them in the trees up in the trees. They thought it was a big cat,

but there was three of them. Well, whatever they were, jump down out of the trees, and they started to approach them, okay, and then they stood up on two legs. They finally hit them, and they were working by moonlight, or they were working by moonlight. When they finally hit them with a light, with a spotlight, these critters or whatever they were disappeared. When they turned the light off, they were up back where they were, and they did that two or three times. So, we decided that it's

probably time to back out, okay? So, we get, we gather back up, and we make the decision to go, you know, we head back out, and then I start hearing something circling us in the trees. I don't know what it was, and then senior, he's been stopped by big cats before, he kind of gets to the spotty since going off when there's one around. He said, man, that's it.

“I think we got a big cat around us, and so we head back down the trail.”

Now, off to a right, there's a Palestine, off trail a little bit. And for some reason, junior goes, hey man, I want to go check out the sand, see if there's any tracks. You know, we're looking for cat tracks at this point. What he found was two human prints that were about 12 inches across. That's a big horse. I don't know that draft horses have that big of a good. So we find that. We're like, okay, we'll just head back down. Well then, we see this big cat,

and it was a big cat, the art across the trail in front of us. Okay, so we get in the trucks, we pull out, junior holler, stop, I stop, it gets out, we find a big cat track in the middle of the road. That was one of the creepiest things that I've ever had happened up there. Yeah, that is creepy. And maybe those hoof prints weren't from a horse. And there's so many questions that I want to go into that dogman ranch. And I know we're saving

a bunch for part two. I have a ton of questions for ya. And for the audience, I'll try and actually get part two out tomorrow. How can people reach a text? Because I know your YouTube channel

The information is still out there on the on that channel. You can contact me.

“My email is a pair of cryptid encounters that Gmail. That's the best way to get a hold of them.”

Yeah, the Facebook thing is down right now. Fox said we're rebranding,

but we're going to come back and I think everybody's going to really enjoy what we're going to do.

Yeah, I can't wait to see what you do with that text. And I would encourage people to

“subscribe anyway. I'll include a link below. And I'm subscribed to your channel. And I can't”

wait to see the new stuff. And I can't wait for a part two. Thank you so much for coming on, Tex, and letting me pick your brain man. It's been a real pleasure.

I enjoyed the hell out of it, brother. I'm finally glad we got together. It's been a long time

“thanks to you, Tex. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter,”

shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance to check out saskwatchchronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows see everyone tomorrow night for part two. Have a good night. [Music] [Music]

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