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Scrubbing in with back-it-tilly and ton your rad. And iHeart Radio and two-time people's choice award-winning podcast. Hello everybody. We are scrubbing in out. I'm sitting in Tonya's seat that she sits in for the morning show and her volume is quite loud.
“Yeah, that's how I like life loud and blaring.”
Wow. Yeah. Well, I love a very quiet calm life. So this was jarring. Yeah.
Yeah, that was rough. Oh, no. I was saying it was high energy. Oh, yeah. By which I need great.
It's the first Monday of Spring Forward. Which is one week. I'm losing an hour of sleep. So brutal this morning. Yeah.
Your text at six thirty. I was like nausea. Well, I was nauseous for multiple reasons. It increased my nausea that I was already feeling.
I think the problem is because I can't go to better.
I can't go to better early on daylight savings for some reason. It's harder for me to fall asleep obviously because it's an hour earlier. And so then I end up staying up later than I'm used to. So then my alarm in the morning is just like tough tough. Yeah.
So we're struggling. Yeah. But we're here. We're here. Monday.
Yeah. But we're back in the studio. All of us together. It's been a minute. Has been a minute.
Lots great. Yeah. Thomas. Mark was in there. We before.
We were in there. We were here. We were here. Easter wasn't here. Oh, yeah.
Were we in the middle of the studio at some of the week before? Yeah. We're nothing. If not nimble. We roll with those punches.
Yeah. Yeah. nimble. We are quick. Yeah.
It's like a cheetah. Yeah. Exactly. But that's where every want us. Yes.
And we will podcast. Yeah. We'll make it work. Well, make it work. Well, make it work.
Rainer shine.
“Well, that's what you get when you've been podcasting for almost 10 years.”
I know. It'll be nine years this September. I was thinking about that the other day. Because someone was like, are you still doing that podcast? I was like, yeah.
But yeah. And he goes, what do you guys talk about? I was like, I don't know tune in tune in my don't you? Give us the download. I don't.
It is funny when I sat next. We flew back from the Bahamas and I sat next to this lovely gentleman who we were quiet the whole flight. You know, it was a 30 minute flight from the Bahamas to Fort Lauderdale. But at the end when we landed he was in the window seat.
So he was like, oh, he was showing me something that we were flying over.
Oh, the hard rock cafe.
The big car building. Uh-huh.
And so he's like, oh, have you ever seen this?
And I was like, oh, no, it's cool. So he was really nice. And he was, you know, chipped chatting with me. Tonya is in front of me. So I'm in the middle seat.
I have this guy next to me and then Tonya Haley on my other side. And I can see Tonya in front of me through the crack of the chairs. Also in her window seat. Filming me. And I don't know that.
I'm just laughing that she got set next to a Tonya. So like, I have to capture this. But the man doesn't know that lore. So I'm like, I'm praying to God that he can't see her filming us. And so I'm like chipped chatting, trying to pay attention to him,
knowing that Tonya's like, not her iPhone on me. And I was going to move that. I think you got there. I don't know. I thought I had a point to make.
I just enjoyed having conversation with the stranger on a airplane. Oh, the guy sure is fine. I mean, after because we had landed. I'm trying to talk once I've landed. Because I'm already.
I'm not.
That's a good rule of thumb time, you're by the way.
Once you land. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine to start a conversation. But what my point was that he asked.
“He was like, oh, what were you in the bulb this morning?”
I get it. I'm trying to explain. We were there doing a podcast. This new podcast studio about how more. And he goes, oh, what's your podcast about?
And what's your podcast called? And I go, well, it's called scrubbing in. And he goes, oh, it's like a medical podcast. Well, um, we were like obsessed with grades anatomy. And it kind of started there.
And it's just, it's been almost nine years. So it's, you know, we call the name. Yeah. And he goes, oh, well, what do you all talk about? And I was like, oh, also a tough question.
Just our lives. Me and this girl who's filming us. She's like great. Great. Great way to slide it in there.
Yeah. It is, it's funny. It is. It goes deep with with the lore of scrubbing in because unless you've been here from the beginning. Yeah.
How do you describe it to somebody? You can. But I love that like we're still doing it. We do. We're still doing it.
I like that. Yeah. We are. I think it's nice. It is comforting.
It brings me comfort. And I hope it brings you all comfort who are listening to me. I will just because Becca was talking about the flight back. I got set next to a lady who decided to take her shoes off. And the foot.
Excellent. It is. Proceeded to. And like, maybe this is my karma because I like smelly food all the time. But she put.
She have like, you know how like they have those body oils. And they're in like the small brown containers. Yeah. Like the central oils. Yeah.
And she went into them for a while, so I was familiar with the bottle.
But she smelled of this like the essential oil that they ask you like if you want
to get a massage like the one that you do not want on you, you know.
“Like that's what she was slathering all over her.”
It was like, I saw her pull it out of her backpack and like slathered on her wrist. And then she went to go put it on her feet. And I was like, okay. The bare feet next to me was. She had her bare feet on the whole time.
Dogs out. The plane might be one of the craziest, so serious. What do you like a faux pal? I don't know. Whatever you call that.
Just like a disrespect. The lack of respect. I couldn't get over it. And I don't know. I don't know if she had tennis shoes on that she slid off or if she was wearing sandals.
I can't see because the shoes were under her backpack. Oh. She could have been in like a TV or something. But still, you should open anything just for the sake of cleanliness. Keep them on.
Keep the germs away. I agree. Do you think she saw you before she sat down and said I need to get my oils out and lather up? Yeah. My black licorice oils are being here somewhere.
So it was quite the journey. Yeah. So where are you guys on removing shoes on a flight? Now, barefoot I think we all can agree is reprehensible. Yeah.
But what about just slipping off your shoes? You're there in your socks. Is that acceptable on a plane? It's pretty gross. So if it's a long overnight flight, I'm taking my shoes off.
Sure. Yeah. Long overnight flight. Yeah. It's a longer flight than three hours.
I go shoes off. Otherwise my shoes are staying alone. Why do I need to take them off? I hate to say five hours is appropriate. Take your shoes off.
Yeah. That's the main thing. Yeah. Not three. Huh?
More than three hours. You're saying a three hour minimum for shoes off. Tiny is saying a five hour minimum for shoes off.
“So you're saying, well, did you not take your shoes off on the way to Florida?”
That was less than five hours. That was five hours. That's right. Just right. Okay.
Yeah. And you kept your shoes on. It took one cross country. And you kept your shoes on. No, I did not.
Oh, well, I'm confused.
I feel like I'm lost in the sauce.
Let's have it.
Let's cut the even at four hours.
“So you need to keep them on if it's four hours alone.”
No, but it was a overnight flight. Aha. But that's still the same amount of time. Whether you're up or not. If you want to be comfortable for that amount of time.
Mark, where do you sit on it? I will flip my shoes off, but I leave my socked, my socked feet on my shoes. You know what I'm saying? Oh, your feet don't leave the like sock. General realm of the shoe.
Correct. They're right. They're with the shoes. So it's not obvious to anyone that I have done this. Oh.
You know, they're all like that. I'm not putting your shoes up in the overhead compartment. Right. Put my sock up on the, I don't know, armrest and front of me. I know like that.
You're not even going to notice. But if I go to the bathroom, those shoes are right back on the bathroom. Yeah. I'd be walking to the bathroom and socks or bare feet, barf.
If you are, if you, first of all,
if your dogs are out on the plane, barefoot, jail time. Yeah. If you're going to the restroom, dogs out. Oh, wild. Literal prison for life.
Yeah. So if you're dabbling with socks on in the bathroom. Sometimes I look at the bathroom floor and I'm like, did someone just, Yeah. Like, did a man just like throw his way in front of me.
There's nothing but spray. I have to just tell myself that it's just like water from the hand washing. I have to tell myself that because I can't go down the dark path. It's upsetting. It is upsetting.
Medicaid is very fascinating. It is universal. It's not universal. It's not universal. Not one size fits all.
No, it's not. No. I'll be honest, like, when we, when we went to Japan in December,
it's so fascinating how everything is so clean and tidy.
And there's no trash anywhere. And I'm like, what is it that Americans and their brains can't keep things nice and clean? What is that? Yeah. It's tough.
Like, have respect for your things.
“You should be able to go to a public restroom and not feel like you are going to contract a disease.”
Yeah. I started flushing with my shoes. I used the flush with my hands. Not anymore. That I'm kind of split on, though.
I am torn on that. Because then that just guarantees that the handle is going to be filthy. Yeah. Right. You're ruining it for future people.
Well, people have ruined it for me. The last time I touched one, it was wet. And that is when I said game over. I am not putting this in anymore. Their foot up and had stepped on pee.
And then they washed it with their foot. If you sprinkle while you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the city. Oh, that's lovely. It's a great rhyme. I know.
But nobody seems to do that. No. I'm going to say it is. So now you get the shoe. I just really encourage everyone to be thoughtful,
but maybe someone's going to come in after you. Hmm. Keep your socks on. I did on the flight to the Bahamas.
“I wore crocs on the plane for, I think the first time.”
I typically wear regular shoes. And they say on. These crocs I wore had bare feet printed on top of them. Like it was, there was a, I think you guys saw it. Oh, yeah.
So some people thought I had my dogs. When I was walking onto the plane, which made me laugh. Wow. But I slipped them off for a little bit in the middle of the flight. And I felt like I was living so dangerously.
I do not have bare feet. I was wearing socks in the crocs. Oh, okay. It boxed across the crocs. It's a crocs.
It's a crocs. I slipped them off for like 30 seconds. Stretch my feet. Put the crocs back on. I thought we were doing it.
Well, I'm glad we got the out of the way. I didn't know where everyone stands. Yeah. But we're all in the same page. Mostly.
There was other earth chattering news this weekend. What? I'm going to get, get to make it back. It's kind of fun. Okay.
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Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. [Music] We're back. We're back. What happened this weekend?
So I don't know if you guys heard, but a little guy by the name Harry Styles. I'm really an album. Is anybody as excited as you are, but we're excited. So it's called Kiss All the Time Disco Occasionally.
And I have to say that this might be my favorite work of art from Harry Styles himself. Wow. And it's a lot of words. It's a big words to say. It is. It is. But I really mean it.
What can you tell us your highlights of the album? Yes. So it's very funny because I was seeing a lot of scuddle on the internet this weekend about like some of the lyrics and how like he's saying not a lot in this album. Some of the songs do have some crazy ridiculous lyrics
that don't seem to mean anything, which I can give them credit for. But then there's some deep meaning in some of these songs. So it's like it's a mixed back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which he's allowed to do. Well, we're some of the outrageous lyrics that don't have meaning.
That I'd have to do a little digging on my phone.
“Okay. But I think it was in the waiting game or are you listening yet?”
But my favorite favorite favorite song on the album is American girls. I like that one too. That was what you predicted you would love this. Yes. I did. And I didn't know. Like I knew nothing about the album.
And I thought we were number one and it is my number one. Uh-huh. My number two is taste back. Oh, I like to taste back too. Yes. My number three is ready. Ready, set, go. And that's my top set, my top three.
And then honorable mention goes to Carlos song. Hmm.
We always love when there's a name in the song.
Yeah. Um, I... Listened up until coming up roses. And I haven't finished it. No.
No. No. I honestly don't know. No. I had it. I kind of had it. I had a weirdly busy weekend.
And I forgot it. But here's the thing. The first up until that point. I realize all I want to do is garden and go floating
Our pool hot tub and listen to this album.
Because it flows. It's like a flow.
Like you just want to like garden.
I did not garden. I did not take any animals. I listened to it totally sober and enjoyed it thoroughly. I know, but it makes me want. I'm saying it makes me want to do that.
It's an album that to be enjoyed sober or under the influence. Totally. And I want to do it under the influence. So you're waiting until you're going to do that? No, no, no.
I was saying when I was listening to it this morning. I was like, oh, I just want to get a high and listen to this and floating the pool. Um, but I, I loved Harry's house so much. That did too.
That I'm so fascinating that you say it's your favorite of all. Because Harry's house is one of my favorite albums. Just like, period of any artist. I know. Wow.
I know. It was big words. Yeah. But I mean them. Like I genuinely mean them.
I believe you. Yeah. And I actually, it was like a big thing because, you know, Robbie feels my Harry Styles. jealous.
A little bit jealous.
And the only jealousy Robbie has ever shown.
Literally. And we were doing a lot of stuff around the house this weekend.
“And so I kept asking him like, hey, can we listen to Harry's album?”
Can we listen to Harry's album? And we listen to five times. So he loves it too. He loves it too. Wow.
Wow. Yeah. He loves it too. Wow. I tried to get into watch the Netflix special.
Mm-hmm. That didn't go over so well. So I'll be watching that on my own later today. But. You know what?
He, I mean, no. Wow. Yeah. It runs deep. It runs deep.
Yeah. He knows the lore. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, you'll do.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, he knows could have been written about me.
But I mean, you just call the spades.
There's no proof. Or denying. Yeah. No. There's no denying.
Yeah. Hey, did you ever figure out what scissors the scissors meant? Or was it?
“Or were we just still like holding the scissors together?”
I wasn't there for that. But I enjoyed that. I didn't. That was very funny. I still.
Haley's like, does she, does she get it? And I'm like, I don't know. So I understand now what scissors scissors are. However, I still feel as though if we were to have the ropes together, we would have been scissors scissors. Maybe it doesn't mean every scissors or sister has scissors.
Yeah. No. You can just be holding scissors. Yeah. It just didn't happen a lot, though.
Like, it didn't even happen for us. Yeah. I know. The scissors, those were a one man scissors. I'm telling you, it was pretty far away.
Actually, for all of us. Yeah. As far as you could be from the scissors. I know. I was so sad.
I was at that one person. I wanted a scissors sister. And like, I got kicked in the curb. You could have been a scissors or brother and sister. Yeah.
Just done it with you. Yeah. But, okay. Well, I was just checking in to make sure. Thank you for clearing that up.
Thanks for the heads up in the moment. Like, we'll leave a sister struggling. Yeah. That's like the high five.
“I was like, I can't really high five you.”
Too hard on this. Well, another senior window. I thought this would be cute for us to do. And then they kissed at the end. That was like, oh, can't do that.
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Yeah. And so I think that was kind of like the encouragement to shorten our episodes. Okay. Which is what we did. Well, I had this epiphany the other day because I am a podcast listener.
So I do not just host a podcast. I am a student of the craft. I enjoy. I just enjoy listening to people's other people's podcasts. And what I realized is I'd only listen in increments of 20 to 30 minutes.
Even if it's like Hillary Duffman called her daddy. I'll listen on my drive home. I'll listen on my part of my walk.
But I never listened to a full episode of any podcast in one sitting.
However, I always come back. I finish every podcast that I listen to. So I'm like this, this information is probably accurate that people listen in 20 to 30 minutes. But like people come back. They want more.
They want to space it out. That's what I do. How do I not have that epiphany until like last week?
“Well, I think that's what we need to know.”
Are people coming back or did they listen to the first half? Yeah. I've had enough of this. Yeah. I've had enough.
Yeah. So are you. That's what my question is. Is this guttle because they want them longer because they do come back. Or are you enjoying the 2030 minute since?
Yeah. It's like, well, I guess it also depends. When you listen because not many people in life. I mean, I do. But not many people have like a hour or hour and a half or they can just sit and zone out and listen to something.
Unless you're doing that. Instead of watching TV or like, yeah, you're nighttime routine. Or you're on a commute that you have a long commute. But I would imagine if someone has a commute. Let's say it's a 2030 minute commute.
They're listening to the first half on the way there.
And then maybe on the way back, they tune back in. Right. So we just need to know. Are you coming back after the 20 or 30 minutes? I'm coming back to the mode.
Because we can talk all day if you need us to do it. We can talk all day every day. Not in fact. I don't have that much to say that people don't listen to. I don't think love to do this every day.
Well, I'm not doing an hour show every day. I literally don't have content for that. That was the discussion is rather than if you're doing 90 minutes a week.
“Let's say are you better off doing 2 45 minute episodes or 4 22 minute episodes?”
Oh, right.
What's better for the listener?
Don't know. Just throw it out. That was the discussion.
“I guess if if we did an episode and it was like a certain length.”
And then we were chopping it up into 20 episodes.
I'd be so annoyed if I was trying to listen. I was like, I don't get to hear the rest of the film tomorrow. I wanted to see it now by saying hi and goodbye. Some like that. Yeah.
We got a lot of highs and good highs. We're back. Yeah. So it's just something that we're curious about on your mind. You know what?
I will say I'm like more invigorated and like motivated and inspired. Ever than lately, lately than ever. I don't know what you're trying to say. I'm more invigorated now than ever. The never before.
The never before. Yeah. Wow. Like I'm going to start the artist's way. I told you yesterday.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we've talked about doing that many times. No. Like now I'm like feeling the the bigger inside me.
Like there's something inside me that wants to like. Repolish. Not change our podcast. Like repolish. Fine tune.
Mm-hmm. And with other things in my life. Beautiful. Yeah. It's a springtime thing I think.
Yeah. Spring forward. I don't know. There's something in like in me.
“Like I've got this like something has changed within me.”
Wait. Did you watch the love is blind finale? Yes. Can we talk about it? I love nothing more.
Look at it.
You know, with here's the thing.
With certain shows. It's like people talk about it for a day or two. I don't care. I don't care. Let's talk about love is blind.
Do not let me forget to talk about traders at the end in the Berkin. Well, okay. Just remind me. Here's my thoughts on love is blind. A quick recap.
Spoiler alert. If you haven't watched. First of all. Devontate and Brittany. I want to just shake her and be like.
Girl. First of all, they did her so dirty on that edit. And those producers knew what they were doing when they were doing that. That was a dirty edit. Really.
Yeah. And because it made her look desperate. So desperate. But here's the thing. The girl bought a wedding dress before she came on the show.
There's nothing wrong with that. And I knew you would say that. And I knew you would say that. But like, she was manifested. She recorded.
That is, that is a proactive queen. That is going to sign. That is going to scare men. It's not the right one. If I had bought a wedding dress prior to meeting Robbie.
He'd still be my husband. Guaranteed.
If you told him that the first day.
Yeah, I'm going to ask him. He's a bit of course, baby. Because he knows he's going on the podcast. But I know the truth. I know his truth.
And that is how he would have been freaked out. Here's the thing. Devontate is my nightmare personally. He had. She literally is like, I know you're not someone that's ever going to go show.
Or me or tell me I'm pretty. And he's just like nodding looking at her. And of course, I don't know if that was the night it. Maybe he said. Of course, I think you're pretty and.
And gosh, over you. But that's not what we saw. And then we hear her saying. And then he goes. Um, I have to go.
We'll be in touch. Yeah. We'll be in touch is so darkness. It's so dark. And and then the next clip is her going.
Which again, I get editing and producing. But it's like I'm 98% sure we're going to get married. Yeah. And I'm like, I just want to shake her. She's so beautiful.
She's she's got her thing. She's got she's independent. She's got everything going. She's just she wants to be married. So badly that it's like she has blinders on for all the red flags.
But that happens to people. So let this be a warning to us all. Don't let that happen. Don't let that happen. Not just in relationships.
Like that can happen in like life and career. Like yeah. I mean, it's like, no, you're worth. No, you're worth. And that tax.
Uh huh. And that tax. And then. Alex. Alex.
And Ashley. That. Okay. I'm very proud of you. I'm very proud of you for knowing all of their names.
Because it makes us not put the little Cairon underneath. Like I am lost. Like I'm like, I cannot. I don't know what anybody's names are. I'm like the blonde girl in the soccer player.
Yeah, you know who I'm talking about. Yeah. So he terrifies me. The way he speaks is so almost like threatening.
“And I don't know how to explain that further than that's what I feel when he speaks.”
Because everything is like a master liar. But it's like. He makes you seem like. It's actually really scary because I think there's men out there like that. But he makes you like he makes you feel like he.
He he's not lying. He's telling you the truth when actually he's like. He's like fully lying and spinning stories, but the way he's saying it makes you sound like you're crazy. It's a script that he's memorized in my. How I viewed it is it's a script that he's memorized so well that he thinks it's true.
Right.
And so for you to question him is like how dare you which is scary.
That's called a narcissist. It's called manipulation. But my favorite thing was it's like his wedding day. And Alex has a piece of fuzz in his beard. He's got some cracker. Like he looks like he eats saltine crackers and just like put his hands in his hair.
He was like. Yeah. He was saltine crackers. It was all over his beard. I was like why is nobody helping you if it's his wedding day.
And he's got crackers all in his beard and hair. I don't think anyone likes him. No. Clearly not. It's all I could watch the whole time.
I could knock it over that. And I totally think that he would have said yes. You can get because he meets her. She's like successful and comes from a well-off. Yeah.
And he's like a nomad who has once to have a bunker in New Zealand and a house and Dubai. I'm like. What the hell are you doing that? As a soccer coach. Yeah.
It was crazy.
So I was really happy that she said I don't even need to hear your answer because it's definitely.
I can't feel like. And I'm all for like a woman standing on business. But I felt like it wasn't her. Like I felt like she was being pushed to just to just like really lay in thick on him. And I just didn't feel like her.
You know what I mean? Well, I'm glad whoever got into her head. But she did it. But I feel like she did it to an extent that was like a little too much. Yeah.
Personally. I got what you're saying.
“Like someone was like, you need to just like lay it on him.”
Give it to him. You know what I mean? They were like working her up to just like unleash. But yeah, because they're probably, like, has he touched you? He said that you're not on his tie.
Yeah. Like it felt like she was wound up. Like somebody had wound her up. Probably her dad. I feel like her dad was like, think gone.
The reunion is airing this week. Mm-hmm. Just a note to Netflix. I don't enjoy waiting a week for the reunion. Yeah.
Like I'd rather just see it right out there. Right out there. And like, I don't know if you've seen my algorithm. It's like all these people on TikTok being like anyone else watched the, um, the final episode of Love is blind like this.
And it's just like fast forwarding until like the parts where they say I do right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, it is.
It's kind of a filler. It's filler. And they could actually do all that I do. The wedding part in a 30 minute increment. And then do the reunion.
Yeah. Give us what we want when we want it. For the reunion is this like, because it was taped a while ago. Mm-hmm. It is a rear.
Really? So is it reunion? Was that taped like this week? Oh, yeah. I don't know actually.
Because last year, the last season like one of the contestants had a baby. Yeah.
“So I think the reunion's filmed like kind of closer to in real time.”
Which might be why they don't. Well, allegedly, Devante has a fiance and a child on the way. Shook. Yeah. No.
No. Yeah. Shoo. Yeah. And then apparently Amber and Jordan had, I guess it.
No. Not Amber and Jordan. Don't. Don't. Tell me.
Do you know what it is? Yes. Okay. They're like the one that's going to say the exact same thing as a joke. No.
I heard you and I was like, he's being sarcastic. But I think I'm being so sincere. Like they are my precious to, I need them to the broken up. Well, I don't know. But in the reunion, she walks off the stage.
And then I've heard rumors that they had both said that they weren't going to say yes. And then they did. And it threw everyone off. That's a rumor. I heard.
So taped. Oh, no. The two precious ones that got married. I need them to stay married forever. Like they are precious.
Dicken. Girl's team. Christine. They're going to. They might have three babies right now.
Yeah. They're in love. I need them to last. Amber. So sorry.
I'm trying to get caught up here. What are the spoilers? Amber enjoyed in the rumors that they had both planned to say no. And Amber posted on Instagram. A screenshot of a text to someone named Laura saying.
For me, it's still a yes and has always been a yes.
I typically, now I totally understand Jordan skepticism.
“However, I think it was very important for us to talk this past week for me to truly understand that if he says no on Sunday,”
we're still playing and going forward with our relationship regardless. I know he's dead set on saying no right now. And I have to say not to pressure him, but he does saw the chance to meet Emma tomorrow, which may change everything again. We've made it clear to each other that we are okay, either way, even if he isn't ready to say yes on Sunday.
And she goes on. Okay, he seems like it's a little teddy bear. And I think that she's had bad relationships in her past and I just feel what you disagree. You disagree? What?
I just don't know that they match. Make it sense as much as people are trying to make them make sense together. How did they not? Well, he doesn't want to move because he's going to bars and concerts. And it's like, she has a daughter that needs to stay in a certain area for her school and stuff.
And it's like, a lot of relationships are compromised.
Yeah, I hope we compromise.
They should move in the middle.
Maybe I'm sitting in and the daughter was crying and I don't know how to process that. That felt dark to me. She's at the reunion. No, she was crying at the wedding. When they said yes.
I think I've got to cry. She had fast forward to really. Okay, anyway, so I'm excited to see what goes down. I hope is interesting. Sometimes you know how I feel about reunions. I get so I love love love love love.
And I feel like I'm watching a lot of TV shows right now that are won by one weekly episodes. And it's so treacherous. Is that the word I'm looking for? I don't like hard. Yeah, it's so hard.
It's so hard. I love it. I love it. I love the pit right now. And I love the intensity.
One episode a week. I feel like I haven't seen an episode of Paradise in a month. There's a new one today. I know. But we watch the last name.
Oh. I watched it last Monday. Well, tonight's your night. You made it. But it's like been done.
Like, what happened that lot at last episode? I don't remember.
“That's why there's a recap in the beginning of every episode.”
Okay, wait. You wanted to talk about the Birkin and Rob and Mora. Yes.
Okay, because I never thought about this.
And I saw a couple people from traders talking about it. So spoiler alert from Rob. Well, we're talking about this. But Mora, he promised Mora a Birkin bag, which is like $15,000. Okay.
Okay. 10,000 is like the minimum for a Birkin bag. They can go anywhere up to like 25,000. Like 10's like the minimum. 10 minimum.
It can go up to 100,000. It can go up. Oh, yeah. It's hard to get. Like you can't.
You have to. Yeah. No. You can't just walk into a store. Yeah.
You have to build. You have to like purchase other items at AirMaz. Samantha had to use Lucy Lousy name. Oh, my god, he never understood that until now. Yeah.
Yeah. You can't just like go in and buy one. Yeah. And so he bought her this bag. I don't know how much it costs the bat.
The specific bag that she got. But Rob also revealed on the reunion that he now has a girlfriend. And I was like, if you were Rob's girlfriend. And you're watching him buy this beautiful woman. A Birkin bag.
What'd you be jealous? Yeah. Right. So did he buy one for his new girlfriend? But that seems.
Maybe she doesn't want one though. And maybe she doesn't want him. Maybe she's like, I don't need a Birkin. But like. I would give you a lot.
So I'd more so be like. I need some. Reassurance. I'd like to have like this voice of affection and attention. Yeah.
But he also might not want it because she might be like.
“Here's the thing that's hard with Rob and Morris specifically is they had a lot of chemistry.”
And like people make fan edits of them. And it's like the girlfriend probably can't even escape seeing this thing. Right. So I'm hoping she's either just a very confident, secure person. And it's like this is just a bit for this publicity.
Uh-huh. Or she's having some really serious conversations with them. I was like, wow.
I don't think I never thought about the girlfriend.
Like, if I saw my hot boyfriend buying a Birkin bag for more Higgins, I'd be like. Yeah. The bag was alleged or they think it was 16 grand. Is the bag.
Okay. And he won what 220,000. Yeah. I think that I think that. He's not like playing into the romance of it.
He's very like, here I got to the bag that I promised you. Like everything's very matter of fact with him. Right. So I do think he's being very respectful on how he's navigating it. Yes.
I agree. That happened and was filmed away before he met his girlfriend. He made that promise before she was even in the picture. It seems so it's like he's he's fulfilling the promise that he made to someone. And I think he's also being very like just dry.
He's not like flirting with her. No. I agree. I think they just have natural chemistry, which sucks for the girlfriend.
“But I don't think he's being disrespectful.”
Yeah. And I'm sure he was like, hey, I would love to buy you a broken back, too. Do you want one? Maybe she's like, I'm good. Bro.
It's been two months. Relax. Maybe she's got the upper hand. Yeah. We don't know.
Maybe she likes a big question mark to me. She's very pretty. You've seen her? Yeah. She's gorgeous.
We're. I'm a TikTok sleuth. Can you send me some videos? I'd like to see her myself. Yeah.
So do you. She's really pretty. All right. Well, we are ending that episode now. Yes, we are. But we look forward to your feedback.
As always. Yeah. I am looking forward back. Looking forward to this. If you made this far, let us know.
Yeah. Let's give them a code word. If you're one of 20 people who made it this far. That's to just taste back. It's a Harry Styles song, no?
Yeah. Taste back. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
Paint by numbers. Yeah. It's good. It's very specific. So taste back.
If you made it this far.
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singer, actress, and multi-plattener artists. You desire in family like this picture. And that's not reality. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life.
And I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guarantee Human.


