BREAKING: Comey Faces Major Prosecutor Subpoena

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Sometimes we got to come up with what we're going to talk about. This one is another interesting one, because you know, when you put a James Covey-Supina title, you may go Logan, is it 2016 again? Are you lining a tape on your Friday? Did you find a tape from a 10 years ago now?

Yeah.

Well, we're actually talking about something that did happen close to 10 years ago at this

point now, because James Covey has been subpoenaed in what they're considering.

“The grand conspiracy is what Tulsa Gabbard even referred to, I believe, is.”

That's right. The grand conspiracy, the case against ex-efficient, who investigated, prosecuted president Trump, of course, saying that they were trying to stop the election back in 2016. And I guess we have updates on that, because we have new people in charge. Where we have it?

That's right. Remember, when Tulsa Gabbard became the Director of National Intelligence, she did start looking at the work product of the intelligence community. That is part of what is her purview. There's 19 intelligence agencies that are under the purview of the Director of National

Intelligence. And she released a lot of findings about the way that they abuse the system and change the rules and made up things, included things that previously they had discredited.

“In order to try and frame president Trump, who had then been elected at that point and”

say he was a part of a Russia collusion conspiracy, which ended up being the Russia collusion hoax. We've been through all that. She referred to it, though, as this grand conspiracy within different intelligence agencies with James Covey, with James Clapper, with John Brennan, even the president of the United

States at the time Barack Obama was caught up in this as well. So now we know that a federal prosecutor has empaneled a grand jury in Florida and is looking into this conducting this investigation, presenting evidence before a grand jury about this grand conspiracy probe in what the in-game of a prosecutor would to be to seek indictments of individuals.

What we now know is that a subpoena has been issued to James Covey to testify before this grand jury and we will see where that goes, but it also tells me that the higher name players, the bigger players are now being subpoenaed to come give this testimony that

“it is probably getting close to the time where the prosecutor would try to get the indictment”

returned by a grand jury. That's right, in phone lines are open, we'll even break down a little bit later what it means. Because there are some moments here, whether this is in a Statue of Limitations, where we out, we can discuss that as well, the kind of legal side of it. We will be joined by one of our ACLJ attorneys as well with a big update as today, or

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and I can see that, so a lot of you are probably tuning in right now going, what

is this with James Comey?

James Comey has been subpoenaed, Y and Y now, and how is it okay that it's actually, I'll just a decade later that they can still do this.

“Let's start with, what is it, well, why is it happening?”

Why does it matter? Do we need to look into this at all? That's right, so last year, a US prosecutor, US attorney, had sought a grand jury to be impaneled in Florida, which the judge complied with and granted that, and went to investigate this grand conspiracy that Tulsi Gabbard and Director John Ratcliffe of the CIA had both

talked about, where it wasn't just instances of them trying to weaponize the government and the intelligence community against the president elect. It was this grand conspiracy as the name that she gave to it. And when you look at this, the prosecutor has been working now since last year and has subpoenaed more than 130, or issued more than 130 subpoena since that grand jury was impaneled.

This investigation isn't at the beginning, but now you're seeing that the former FBI director James Comey himself is being subpoenaed in this investigation. To me, that looks like you do all the grunt work. He's started with probably the lowest players in this, or people that may have information and you build up, and then you've got your narrative before the grand jury.

And then you're going to have the people that you're probably seeking an indictment against,

“both James Comey, James Clapper, John Brennan, those are the ones that remember John Brennan”

said, "I know that the dossier, we don't think it's true, but doesn't it ring true ?" You know, those are the types of things that are going to potentially get them in trouble. It was the way they weaponize the intelligence against the person who had just been elected by the American people.

When you get to that point, they start subpoenaing the players that are probably the target of the investigation. You almost infer that they are getting close to asking for charges to be returned from the grand jury that they are getting near the end of the investigation stage, and potentially going towards an indictment.

I want to bring that up because this is not some really nearly thing that just happened. It tells you, Robert, we're talking about this almost a year ago at this point. Last July was discussing this with reporters during a White House presser. I think we should flash back. Let's hear from it.

This is our friend, former colleague, tells you, "Gabber." I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I'm not an attorney, but as I've said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community.

The expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a year's long coup and a treasonous conspiracy against the American people, our Republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.

“Remember, Logan, that is a director of national intelligence.”

You can July. Right. Nearly a year ago, so people that they start pushing narratives, they're only doing this right now to distract what's going on. This is clearly, as you said, a late-stage process of this.

Right. After she presented this information, there were also criminal referrals that were given over from John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, to the Department of Justice, and the Department of Justice started working on that almost a year ago.

We always talk about the -- you know, sometimes the wheels of Justice turn very slowly.

We talk about, with some of our cases, how it takes years to get the resolution finally, and sometimes it goes all the way to Supreme Court, that when they are doing an investigation and trying to do it the right way, in order to secure an indictment, if they believe that there's been the violation of the law, you don't want it to be rushed. And I would also point to some of the charges against James Komi that were dropped in the

Northern District of Virginia were because it was kind of rushed. They were up against a timeline with the statute of limitations and rushed to get it done and that judge threw them out.

if there are indictments, charges to be brought here, it is not going to be just thrown

out because it was rushed. It's going to a process. Now, this conspiracy angle that both Tulsi-Gabbert brought up, but then also the way that it's being described by the media, if that is what the U.S. attorney is doing.

“Now, remember, grand jury proceedings are secret.”

We won't know what is said in that. We don't know and should not know those are secret for a reason. But if that is the angle they are going for, a conspiracy, that is where the timeline of the statute of limitations shifts. Because if you have an individual crime, then the crime itself, there's normally about

a five-year statute of limitations. If you could tie it that, some things have different things, different extended, but typically one of these, if it was just an individual action would be like a five-year statute of limitations. 2016, way beyond that. 10 years.

The difference is that with a conspiracy charge, if the individual's guilty of that conspiracy or alleged to be guilty of that are continuing the conspiracy, they haven't given it up. They're tied to it. When you hear from these individuals, they still repeat the same lines from that time.

“Then that conspiracy can be looked at by the U.S. law and courts and prosecutors as an ongoing”

conspiracy. The point of the 2016 election may be well over, but the continuance of that to still hold the line on their narrative that they weaponize the government for can extend that. Even some reporters point back to some testimony that even in 2023 that James Komi had given, that would be in line with the original conspiracy that they are alleging that could

also extend it. There's a lot of, of wiggle room, so to speak, when it becomes a conspiracy. Yeah, absolutely. And I want to hear from you about this. We do have some calls coming up.

It's a modern related topics. We'll get to those coming up. But if you do have a question or comment related to this, 1-800-6843-1101-800-684-3110, of course we look to what's next. What does this mean then?

But also, what does it mean when you talk about future presidents, future presidents in the United States? And of course yesterday, we spent a good portion of our show talking about Gavin Newsom and the Newsom family as an unearthed clip of his wife really going after directly by name, evangelical conservative Christians, was played over and over and over again by us and by a lot

of outlets that wanted to share this is what we're talking about from the state of California. And in response to that also, the ACLJ has been hard at work in a battle with the state of California.

They have fought to claim over a million dollars in fines that they had levied against

Calvary Chapel of San Jose. Now, a lot of these came during COVID times. There are early days of COVID when we were unsure, everyone was unsure what was going on. Now we are quite a bit removed. We are six years removed from the original, probably about this week, about six years

ago from the pandemic, of the first week when everything shut down. We know the impact that happened, of course, you know, so much more now, six years later. And now we have gotten some official responses yesterday was the official day to hear from California. And we're going to have our ACLJ attorney Nathan joining us on the next segment to break

down the update coming out of California because look, as much as you want to discount what happens in California or New York or any of these places. We have a lot of listeners there. We have a lot of supporters there. But I know I see some of the comments coming in saying, why do I care?

Because these big metropolitan areas, these big states California, you know, where there's

a lot of people, often impact what happens around the country, first starting in your major

cities. And then we've seen how it actually impacts smaller towns, smaller communities, smaller school districts, all of those things throughout the country.

“So that's why the ACLJ has to be there for all, whether that is going up against the governor”

and going up against the state of California, the government of California, obviously not the people of California. Or we have to be there for an individual student who needs support. Or we need to be there for a president of the United States. Or we need to be there for the people in Nigeria, Christians are being persecuted.

Or we need to be at the UN Human Rights Council talking about Israel. We have to be there because there's often people who go on and go, I feel like there is nothing I can do. But the ACLJ is there, and we are there and can be your voice.

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So we would love to hear from you at 1,800, 6, 8, 4, 3, 1, 1, 1, 10, go ahead and get out of hold. Yesterday was a big day for the ACLJ, of course, in our fight for Calvary Chapel San Jose

“versus the state of California, and if you want to know what side we're on, if you're”

probably going to figure it out, of course, we're on the side of Calvary Chapel, and one of our attorneys Nathan is joining us right now, well, but I want you to give a little bit of a set up here, because the response came in yesterday was a big deadline. And I know we talked a little bit on the air, but maybe we can give people a bit of a set up before we get to Nathan.

That's right. Remember, we filed our cert petition, that's the petition asking the Supreme Court to take up this case back in December of 2025. So right at the end of the year, and then that automatically triggers a clock for the state to respond.

The original response due date for California was January 16th of this year. They filed a motion to ask for an extension, not unusual, that happens, especially at that level at the Supreme Court, to move that, and they was granted to move it to February 17th. But then we were waiting, mid-February, for a response from the state of California, and low and behold, they ask for another extension.

This is where it gets into a little bit of uncharted territory, asking for a second extension.

But the state did grant, the Supreme Court, rather, did grant this second extension to push that response deadline to yesterday, March 19th. And Nathan, we got the response from the state yesterday late in the afternoon. There you see it on the screen, that is their brief, they filed a Supreme Court. And what this purpose of their response, because it is at this cert petition stage, we

are asking the court to take this up, their entire goal here is to tell the Supreme Court or ask them to say, "You don't need to deal with this. Don't waste your time here." Just rely on what the other the state courts in this case looked at, and let's just move on.

“What's kind of your breakdown of the response from California?”

So it's really interesting what they do in this brief, and I'm not sure it's very consistent with the fact that they took this long to write it. Because rather than arguing that the state court got it right, instead they tried to argue that this case isn't worth the Supreme Court's attention. What they tried to do is essentially say, "Well, COVID was a long time ago.

It doesn't still matter why would we think that a case about COVID finds would still have implications for religious liberty today?" That's their main argumentative tactic, and of course, as we all know, that's just not consistent with the ongoing trends we see from the left. The battle has not stopped since COVID-19, with restrictions over churches and whether

they can meet and when they can meet, the battle just keeps going every single day. And I think it feels like if that was the case, then drop the fights. You know, if they decided that it was no longer a value to them and it didn't matter anymore, well, there's a simple solution to that in many ways. Exactly right, exactly right.

“And I think it's particularly striking because this is the argument they have to make.”

First they argue that the case doesn't matter, but then of course they have to say, "Well, the case doesn't matter, but these finds were justified." And so they try still relying on the same logic that we heard five or six years ago. They still try to blame churches for the spread of COVID and blame churches for allowing people to mean, as if that somehow caused the spread of disease.

So they continue with the exact same arguments they've always been making, and now they're

making them to the Supreme Court. Well, and I also feel like some of these arguments in here are that, you know, it happened, but it's so unlikely that we're going to have another century, once in a century, pandemic, that forces us to put these rules back in place. Their focus here and what I found interesting is on the restrictions themselves and not

Now, I understand that is the root of all of this, but in what I read their brief about

28 pages, saw nothing really about the issue of even still holding these fines against them and the precedent that could set, because they're trying to argue, this season even presidential, like in the state, we're not even going to use these fines against someone out later because this happened here, and that's another way they're trying to say it's not worth the Supreme Court's time.

Exactly, but the fundamental reality is that fines like this have a huge effect, not just on our client, and it's offerings and ties that are being trying to take him by the state, but have this effect on every other church in California, too. I love all our work, but this case is particularly personal to me, my dad's a pastor, and he ministered at the Inner Church in California during COVID-19, and what every church in California

saw was these Draconian orders, right? And so these fines are just this last attempt to still ring one more thing out of churches.

What we pointed out in our serve petition, the Supreme Court had to multiple times over and

over again issue real rulings that California courts were getting at Ron, that the California government was getting at Ron with its COVID orders, and so this is really just the next case in a long line of cases that the ACLJ was involved in from the start of California going after churches, punishing churches, just because they were seeking to worship freely and accord with their conscience.

Now Nathan, this was obviously their brief and opposition to our cert petition, will we have another brief in responding to their opposition, and what are kind of the next steps here,

“as we await what hopefully is a grant order from the Supreme Court?”

Yeah, so our reply brief is to April 2nd, so we have a little under two weeks to get our brief in to the Supreme Court, and unlike California, we don't plan to ask for extra time. Rather, we're seeking to get this before the Supreme Court as soon as we can, to urge the Supreme Court to take the case. And so once our brief is submitted, at that point, we'll be waiting to see what the court

may do, sometimes that can take a rather long time, sometimes it might happen more quickly. And really, the next question is going to be, will the Supreme Court take this case on the merits and protect religious freedom and California once and for all, so that's what we'll be watching for after April 2nd. All right, we'll keep it up down there.

Look, this is a continual struggle with California. We want to be there to support our friends, our allies, Christians in California, people that want to practice their faith openly, loudly, and when we know, the governor himself is not too big of a fan of that, and specifically, we know the governor's family is not

“too big of a fan of that, and maybe we could even flash back to remember.”

This is what was unearthed yesterday, from just a couple years ago, we kind of, wow, all this was happening. This is the governor's wife, Jennifer Newsom. But again, the folks on the far right, they're missing is just this, they're living in

this silo, this evangelical conservative silo that ultimately is it's just pulling us back

as a country to a time and a place where we don't deserve to be, and we're not going to be because, honestly, young women and fathers of daughters are awake now and they're woke, and they're not going to let us go back, and so I have so much hope because of that, and obviously, California has a huge responsibility, Lily. Of course, and we would actually be there for you, the Californians who are listening

right now, who are evangelical Christians, who maybe are stuck in that silo of evangelical Christianity. And of course, we want to be there for everyone around the country, and around the world as well. But when you're being called out specifically, that is why we are representing Calvary

Chapel. That is why we keep, you know, we have people like Rick Renaud, who joined us on the broadcast in California.

“That's why we have Jeff Balabon, Israel, New York.”

These areas where we know there's a lot of you out there who support, similar thoughts, beliefs, and values, maybe you're not heard, because the government of the state, you need to size double little you. We're not going to stand for that. We're going to stand up for you, but only happens.

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We're discussing here.

“Off the top here, of course this has to do.”

With James Kami being subpoenaed, we're also going to move on and discuss a bit of what's

going on as Iran has threatened a worldwide threat to tourism and tourist sites. What that's going to mean for the future, and of course, as we know, there are historic issues right now with the TSA, with the Department of Homeland Security, due to the shutdown that is keeping things really delayed. You have a city like Atlanta, which has been one of the top airports in the country.

The posting lines of two to three to four hours just to get through security right now. This is not a fun time to be traveling, plus you add on, that now they're issuing these threats. What's that going to look like leaning up? We want to hear you from you at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10 all about it once again at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10.

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That really helps us out, helps us set a great baseline for the organization, it helps us move forward. But let's reset a little bit here, well. That's right. We started this broadcast today talking about the subpoena that was issued to James Komi in

this comes out of an investigation that has centered in Florida, where a U.S. attorney is looking into the grand conspiracy claims, things that were brought up by Director

of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, also by the Director of the CIA, John Rackliffe,

and the way that the intelligence community was weaponized against the president after President Trump was elected in 2016, and that was shifted. The narrative was changed, a new intelligence community assessment ICA was ordered by President Obama. And this is after the all the ICAs before that had said the opposite of what then they put

out. And that was a weaponized tool to then spark the FBI investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, as well as then leading to the firing of James Komi and the appointment of special counsel Bob Mueller. So what we're looking at is an investigation that's been going on since last year.

Now James Komi will have to testify before this grand jury as this U.S. attorney seeks an indictment of someone or something.

“That is the big unknown at this point, because grand jury, these proceedings are secret.”

They are meant to be secret. They will remain secret, but it also tells you it is probably nearing the end that they're having the bigger names come forward now. It also is curious that he is going to testify before the grand jury, because he may be a target of this, but they also may be seeking to get information from him about other

individuals. So I do think that this is a big development. This is a big move, I'm curious to see what reporting comes out of this, and I'm curious to see how close we are to some sort of indictment being requested from this grand jury in Florida.

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you leave a like, both and encourage you to do it today at ACLJ.org. We get back, I want to hear from you 1-800-6-8-4-31-10, we'll be right back. I also want to miss the opportunity. A lot of comments coming in, of course, is a lot of talk around the office of the passing of Chuck Norris, obviously an acting legend, a great man, a faith, a good man, a character

So of course, our prayers to his family, a life well lived with Chuck Norris, again, someone

who has made many appearances on Christian media throughout the years, and just seemed to overall, like an American legend, so good on the media, it's a great supporter, also of Israel. Someone who spent a lot of time there visiting, even with Prime Minister Netanyahu, so again, another voice, sadly gone, but, again, a life well lived, so I want to say that.

Also his support for the military. I mean, one, just a patriot in and of itself, but he went to visit with troops deployed in Iraq back in the early 2000s and used that time, and his time to go and try and boost the morale of American soldiers and troops. So just did so much for not just pop culture, but just for the country, like he truly

was a patriot.

“I seem like a really good guy, and obviously a leader in martial arts, which I think a lot”

of people were brought to martial arts because of Chuck Norris. So with that, there are a lot of calls and comments coming in, and of course there's obviously updates going on from around the world, the threats that are around the world, sadly we don't have Chuck Norris. Someone who can protect us from a lot of those threats, it feels like, you know, when you

talk about Iran, there is still, obviously, an ongoing battle. There's an ongoing military, encouragement that's happening, and there are still, though, a lot of the leadership has been taken out. There are still threats coming in from Iran, Iran threatened publicly, essentially. And some of this is, again, to scare you is to make you feel out unease and look, I understand

America, it's feel that way right now, quite a bit. By saying, specifically now, as we start to head into springs, spring kicked off today, today's first answering. People start traveling.

“They start looking at different places, tourist destinations, and Iran essentially”

said, around the world, do not feel safe for these tourist destinations. That's right.

Even though overnight, the ongoing conflict, their chief minister of propaganda, basically

who oversaw that entire operation, which was very robust from the Iranians, they are very good at utilizing technology, and also laws that allow for free speech and things to their advantage by going after narratives online. That person was taken out, but yet still, a top military spokesman warned today that parks, recreational areas, and tourist destinations worldwide won't be safe for Iran's enemies.

Now this is not unexpected that this is a threat. Obviously, they are going to continue to make threats as long as they try to hold on to power. But this is the threat that we have been concerned about the entire time. We already know there have been multiple attempted terror attacks in the United States since this conflict began.

From radical Islam, we know the motivations and the ideology of these individuals that have tried to carry out these attacks. This is at a time where our nation's Department of Homeland Security is defunded. That includes our Coast Guard, by the way, that protects the Homeland from the most concerning parts of it.

The Coast Guard, our Border Patrol, as well as ICE, which we know they've also exploited the Southern border to get people in this country. We know that more than 300 people on the terror watch list entered this country during that they know of during the Biden administration. And when they talk about Parks, recreational areas, tourist destinations worldwide, I don't

think this is an empty threat.

“I think they will continue to say that we will defeat the Great Satan.”

We will bring down Israel. We will destroy Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. They can say those things. I don't believe that they have the capacity to do that. This one, I think they do.

I think they do have the capacity to so terror around the world as they've done for 47 years. They've been the world's largest exporter of terrorism for the entirety of the Islamic Republic. That is one of the many tools that they love to use to show their power. They are a paper tiger when it came to their military. They've been able to launch drones and launch missiles, but their air defenses and their

air force and their navy was never as strong as they like to show it off us.

And now we're seeing what are they probably going to revert to. The thing that they actually were the best at, which is terrorism, and it is just absurd

to, we think, according to our own polling and the way we're acting, we're about to take the Senate back over. Do a year funding, do a six month funding of Department of Homeland Security while we're in this conflict. You can't do that for the American people, really?

It's absurd. There are a lot of calls and comments coming in. Most of them are related actually to our work going on in California, which I think that's interesting.

“That's what struck the nerve today of our audience.”

It's always great to have calls and comments because we're able to kind of see when we

talked about the Colmy situation. If I did okay, so some of you guys wanted to talk about it. We got one call about it. We can take a call about that because the rest of them are really about what's going on in California and the fight really against churches around the country.

So let's start off with a call about Colmy and then I'm going to take some calls about what's going on in California because so many of you are interested in that topic. Let's go to Michael and Florida. Go ahead. Watch it on YouTube.

Gentlemen, I just want to say that being the consummate skeptic when it comes to the

left and the woke left, never seeming to have to pay for anything.

But yet with this new update with Colmy, I just got to say, this makes me really happy.

“Michael, if there is an indictment and they are able to prosecute James Colmy, I think”

there are a lot of people that will share that feeling with you. I know a lot of people that watch this broadcast get so jaded because we talk about this. We've been around this for so long and decades at this point exactly and it is frustrating. When there's seems to be no accountability, now there's there's not no accountability. James Colmy is no longer the FBI director.

He may think that he has some sort of platform really, I don't think anyone watches James Colmy's little post on sales. He did the 86 47. He also did one weird one about the naming of a certain one of these operations. I mean, maybe it was Arctic frost or it was just so uncomfortable.

No one really likes James Colmy, so I think to some degree, they are he has held responsible. His entire legacy is completely ruined. Yes, I think that what many people in the government did right after President Trump was elected rises to the level of criminality and I think a lot of us would like to see someone actually held accountable.

“Remember there was a CIA attorney that purposely lied on a filing to a judge and got a slap”

on the wrist. So we have seen too many people evade real accountability, it would be nice to see something. I like it with the ACLJ cases, you know, I have a list here next to me, one of them is earlier this week, we had big deadlines and our FOIA cases involving James Colmy's use of spies in the White House and about Arctic frost again, two of our roughly 20 ongoing

FOIA cases are against what was considered to be, I guess you'd say, deep state operations. So again, the ACLJ has involved in a lot of these things in different ways. When you hear what's happening in California, we can't not tie that to the case that we're working on right now. We are in court where they had to respond just yesterday about our fight to protect and

secure Calvary Chapel, while the state goes after them for millions of dollars and finds. A million dollar fine, not much to the state of California, but to a church, again, this is Calvary Chapel San Jose, they can mean anything. Phone lines are open for you, I'd love to hear from you, when we get back, we are going to take all the calls that are going to come in at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10 if you call in now

during this break. I will do my best to get to every single call that we have. So Olivia, Tom, Bobby, and whoever else size the call in, we're going to try to get to you. Come on up.

We do have a question coming in on YouTube, maybe this will spark some conversation. Someone wants to know if Logan is running for Congress, I don't think there's an open spot for me right now.

And you can always run, it's a midterms are coming up, you can primary somebody.

That's true, I don't feel that need, I've got more people watching here. I can't think of a job you would like less than being a member of Congress. Yeah, I can live here, I've got a living DC. Well, you got to mean DC a long time ago. Yeah, no, I'm out already, that's, yeah, I'm good, yeah, I'll run for mayor, you know,

but I'll be mayor of this office. I think you already are. I thought they had made a graphic of me running. That'd be real bad. The corner of my eye, like, did that, that's a, that's a, a, a, a craziness.

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“So, 1,800, 6, 8, 4, 31, 10 if you want to be on the air, last call for calls for the day.”

I want to hear from you, but again, you're hearing me say it a lot today because it is time to support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ dot org. Have your donation doubled today. Welcome back to Secular, phone lines are, we've got two lines up in 1,800, 6, 8, 4, 31, 10, but let's just go in the order of which they come in so many of you are calling about state

of California. We got one though, and James, come be to us and we're going to have some fun here. Let's go to Olivia, calling in Virginia, listen in on the radio, Olivia, go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my call. My opinion is that this, I will call them people, don't have any valid arguments to

or wait the arguments to defend their position, that's why they have to lay after they lay. They don't have any arguments, that's it, cute. Well, and Olivia, unfortunately, the courts in California, in many cases, did side with the state.

And that is part of the reason, yes, I understand where you're going, and I agree. I don't think they have a great argument. They don't have the state. But at the same time, they did win at the lower courts. That is why we were the ones that took this to the Supreme Court with Calvary Chapel.

Because this fine is still in place, they're still trying to enforce this against them.

This 1.2 million dollars.

But yes, their arguments aren't even based on whether or not the policies were good or bad, it's any of that. It literally is things such as, you know, this is already rescinded years ago, these policies. And it's very unlikely they're going to ever happen again.

So therefore, this is kind of irrelevant at this point. Let's just move on. Another one of their claims also is why the Supreme Court should not take this is that the rulings in the court of California weren't the type of rulings that make precedent in the state.

So they're trying to say that, look, the state courts didn't even make precedent. So therefore, we don't have to worry about someone using what happened there to do it again. They're trying to get around almost the entire argument about the validity of some of these orders in general. Then go straight to it's over.

Let's not waste your time Supreme Court. Please don't take this and let's just move on and we're good. You're, it's not even appropriate for them to bring it to you. Don't even worry about it. That's how this kind of reads to me.

Yep. Let me thank you for calling. Will we get rid of Olivia? Now we have three lines, four lines open right now.

“In six minutes, I think we need to take a couple more calls, 1-800-6-8-4-31-10.”

If this inspired you, hopefully it inspires more people. Give me a call. Let's move on to Tom, who's calling. In Virginia, online two, Tom, go ahead. Yes, sure.

Are you going to get me all right because I'm driving? Yeah, not bad. Go ahead. I'll be very brave because I know your time is precious. There was a very large church, I believe in Los Angeles and I'm not an architect shirt,

but I know that you all know, I think, John MacArthur was the pastor. It was a really large community church. Was the church? Yes, sure. And he got fine.

Billions, or the church did billions of dollars or a COVID, but was able to recover that in court and actually got an apology from the state, Virginia. If I'm correct, is that. Yeah, Tom. So what happened was that that is a different facts, but it does all relate.

“Yeah, John MacArthur's church was being fined because they initially remember, California”

said, you cannot have an indoor church service. It's shut enough. You have a meeting or a gathering at all if you're a church. So they were directly saying, you cannot practice your faith.

You cannot exercise your first amendment right to the freedom of religion.

And that was through another case, the Supreme Court ruled pretty quickly that, no, you can't ban church services. You can maybe have some restrictions, you can try to have public health things, but you cannot outright ban indoor meeting of churches. And that actually led to a settlement with the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors

where the church was paid by L.A. County $400,000 as a part of that settlement. So all their fines went away and they actually were able to get 400,000 from that violation

Thank you for also for bringing that up, a lot of people in the chat.

I see all as well that bring that up that, yes, John MacArthur was in that entire case in drama that the state was putting upon them. And we hope that even though the facts are different here, this is a different set of restrictions. It's not restrictions that were directly the Supreme Court ruled on. It's still ties in because it's all that COVID error mess.

Yeah, absolutely. I see a lot of good comments, as you said, coming in about that. We do have a couple of lines and four minutes, 1-800-6-8-4-31-10, if you've got a short call or comment. Kind of the last call for them, let's go to Bobby, who is calling from New York, go ahead.

Hi, Logan. Hi, will you guys make a good team? I think you ought to go on tour.

“But my question is, I think the Supreme Court is going to take the case.”

So when they do, what are the odds of you guys winning? Do they look pretty good, and that's my question today? Yeah, I think you look at a bit of the panel of the court right now and go look, it's not a slam dunk always. You have many justices that look in a good way vote for what they feel is right in constitutional,

don't necessarily always fall with that a party line.

However, I do think you probably have a better chance to Supreme Court than maybe you do, even in the state. That's right. Actually, Bobby, the harder part is not winning it. Well, I'm confident in our team. I'm confident in the legal arguments that the attorneys

at the ACLJ have put forward. The hard part is actually getting the court to take it up. They don't take up that many cases. You hear about cases all the time, but there are so many cert petitions that the Supreme Court receives, and they never take up.

So many that we filed in our history. The ACLJ has been blessed to make great precedent in this country through landmark decisions because we're so good and because the cases are so selective that we will take to the Supreme Court, but it is we have just as many the Supreme Court deny cert to. So we right now have two cert petitions at the Supreme Court on very big issues.

This one and the New York Times v. Sullivan issue where we're going after CNN.

“That's why these state fights are a city fight or a local fight is still very, very important.”

Yes, you can attempt to work your way up the system. That number one takes years to do. This is the federal government. This is the legal system. It is not fast.

It is a big, big process. So you gotta remember that when you're going into it. So that's why these fights that may seem localized are incredibly important. And as why we still want to have the best, the best in terms of the attorneys that we have up.

Let's take one call before we wrap up today. Let's go to Derek calling online one. Derek, take us home. Hi, my I'm Derek from Michigan. I just appreciate what you guys do.

I just called the other day. I decided that I was going to take it as that further. I wanted to help. I became a champion today. Thank you.

Thanks, everybody. Listening today. Please join. Help out. Truth, freedom and justice matter.

And you guys help a lot. You're amazing. Derek. And you guys get to be home for this. I really appreciate that.

“It sounds like we've put you up to that call.”

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