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407: Mackenzie & Her Dad’s Creepy Texts, Plus Her Weird Jail Calls with Mom | Mackenzie Shirilla

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The final episode in the Mackenzie Saga. Nearly four years after the crash that killed her boyfriend and his friend, Mackenzie Shirilla continues to insist that she is innocent. And in hours of jail p...

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The people who have been in cheese, cheese, cheese, cheese. Now on the crusty-cooking table, the coffee and the coffee and the coffee is ready for the union. Only a few days later, the final meeting of the action park and cheese-manus action. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all-new episode of "Serialisly." With me, Annie Elise, your true crime bestie, your Mackenzie Shorilla Deep Diver, just, you know,

go into the depths of Hell on the Internet and in the FOIA and come in here to clock in for duty with you.

Now, let me just start this episode by saying this, okay?

This will be my last Mackenzie Shorilla episode, and you know what? Let me actually put like a little asterisk next to that, I think. I think. I don't want to talk about this girl anymore. I don't want to give her any more airtime.

I don't think truthfully that there's much more I can share with you that will bring value to anything.

But so this will be like the last horror in that regard, unless there is some huge new revelation or there's something you guys are requesting that I cover regarding the case. But I feel like now, after today, we will be done with it. Now, that being said too, for all of my audio only listeners, very similarly to the Wednesday episode. This is a bonus episode, and it contains a lot of phone calls.

Originally, I was not going to put either one of these bonus episodes on the podcast feed. I was going to only have them on YouTube because on YouTube, you can do closed captions. So you can hear it a little bit better and read what the transcript is.

It's not, it's an episode that doesn't have as much commentary for me.

So, whatever, I wasn't going to put them on there. But I did a poll over on Instagram asking, "Hey, for my audio only listeners, do you want me to cross post it?" And the majority of you, like 85% said yes. So, once again, releasing this bonus episode not only on YouTube, but also on the podcast feed. And if for any reason, you do have difficulty hearing these calls and following along.

It is posted on YouTube with closed captioning. So, you'll be able to read the transcript. Now, the other day, in just in case you missed it, let me remind you, on Wednesday, I did release a bonus episode and we have been in the trenches of McKenzie's case for literally years now. I know I mentioned that we had the huge stack of 600 page documents back in 2023.

We also have FOIA information. We've received terabytes and terabytes of digital evidence of phone calls of jail, calls of so many things. And we've been kind of digging through all of that since this new renewed interest in her case, since the crash came out on Netflix.

And so with that, I went through the jail calls. And on Wednesday, I pulled out six calls that I wanted to highlight between McKenzie and her friends. These are the jail calls in which they're talking about boys. They're talking about sex. They're joking around. She does not seem remorseful at all. She drops the R word.

Literally dozens of times. And like, she's making fun of people. And those calls to me, the reason I chose those six, I felt like I could have put the whole, you know, gamut of phone calls on, but I was like, okay, this is what's going to really like illustrate things.

The most, these are the most important calls in my opinion.

So same goes for today. Today's episode is not going to focus on McKenzie and her loser ass friends, but McKenzie and her loser ass parents, okay? Because I have gone through hours and hours and hours of phone calls between McKenzie and her mom Natalie,

which I think we all can agree that her parents just enable her to like the ends of the earth.

And I've pulled out about 15. I think 16 to be exact, but roughly about 15 that I think you really need to hear. Because in these calls, they're, she's instructing McKenzie on what she can and can't say. They're talking about the appeal. She's talking about how she's so obsessed with the Facebook group and Facebook pages and comments,

living in the comment section. She, this is Natalie, her mom that cares about this, which isn't really a far stretch because we know that when McKenzie was hospitalized immediately, following the accident, that what, and I say, accident, it wasn't an accident, but you know, the crash, I should say,

that when McKenzie was immediately hospitalized, her mom was running her social media, trying to get her signed up, come modeling agencies, trying to, asking the police, what do you think the social media perceptions going to be about all this?

That is still very much the tone of their conversations.

She's running McKenzie's accounts.

They're talking about changing her profile picture, her bio,

living in the comments section, just like this very surfacey, superficial bullshit when that doesn't even matter. Your daughter is in prison for taking two lives, like read the motherfucking room, right? And in addition to all of that, they start talking about,

they start dragging Dom and Davi on's family in these calls. They start talking about how she's the victim. McKenzie's a bitch through and through in the majority of the calls, all while her mom is like soaking it up and thinks it's like cute and funny. It's beyond.

So I'm going to share some of those calls with you. Curies to know your thoughts, and if you're feeling exactly the same way I am, and what you pick up on because there are some very interesting conversations.

And then after those calls, I'm going to jump back on here with you.

And I want to talk about all of the rumors that are going down right now, about McKenzie and her father. If you don't live on TikTok or even on Instagram reels, you may not know at all what I'm talking about. So I'll give you a little sneak preview right now.

But as everything has been a full data dump of information over the last several weeks, a lot of the text messages people are starting to show, which we've seen, I've seen, I've known about them for a long time. But they're starting to show the text messages of McKenzie asking her dad for warm milk in the middle of the night.

Her dad's saying things like, you know, you might, you're wrong, loves me. Like, you, it's a get out, not, not this, I'm paraphrasing. But like, you missed your get out of jail free card last night or things like that. And like, but kept asking for a warm milk, which people, of course,

believe was code for, I mean, I guess I'm just going to say it. Seaman, okay, implying that she and her father, Steve had a sexual relationship in secret from her mom. They even further, I don't want to say like bolster this claim,

but I guess that's how you, I could describe it.

But because in previous Starbucks orders, McKenzie always ordered her drink as dairy free.

So they're like, why would you be asking for warm milk? 15 year-old or 17 year-old is asking their dad for warm milk in the middle of the night. So you could imagine things have been running or rampant on the internet with people speculating what this really means. And look, the last 60 days, I think I've covered three or four

in-sessed cases, so it's, it is out there. It is a thing, unfortunately. But I'm going to talk more about those text messages. After I play these jail calls for you, I'm going to talk to you about what I believe that means, what I think the dynamic really is, also what I think Steve and Dom's potential

relationship was like, the two of them, and we'll kind of get into all of that. So this will serve as the episode of McKenzie's parents. And maybe we call it like the unarrivalling of McKenzie's parents, because we've already been talking about how her dad's spiraling. He lost his job.

They still don't seem to understand how to read a room of like what their daughter has done and how severe it really is, but this episode will serve as like, let's talk about the calls with mom, how mom only cares about fame and perception and attention and living in the comment section and capitalizing on her daughter's presence, even though it's like not a good thing to capitalize on.

And then we're going to talk about those text messages with dad. So let's start by getting into the phone calls. Hello, this is a pre-paid collect call from and incarcerated individual at Kaya Hoga County Correction Center. This call is not private.

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What? No one is by me. No, it's pretty, oh, well, that doesn't matter. I'm saying this, no the wash. Yeah, I don't know what to say to Maddie.

What did you say? Just say what? For our thank you. I said Maddie, I miss you so much.

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All there's still called proofs is all based on interpretation number one. They say she wanted to die but that was after the fact of the accident.

She was in the hospital saying quote she never meant to do that to happen.

And now all she wants to do is be dead quote. I'm sorry but if I or anyone else could witness the situation where they lost their six year best friends. It doesn't fully remember what happened. But no they want to use that.

They want to use that interpreted in the worst way.

And I'm sorry anyone in that situation would be the same thing. And then you've got some dude who goes by hench who literally like no one knows who this dude is that's 50 and got a criminal background. And they say he's a family friend of the Rousseau that lives in their basement. Also let's just not also let's just mention that Kenzie and Dom's mom never had a good relationship.

In fact it enters and stuff. Kenzie I know he didn't. At what? I don't know. Kenzie is waiting.

Kenzie read it. And Dom's mom never had a good relationship. Thought it enters and got in the conflict with the federal. And please parents go home and ask your kids who they got their goodies from. Please they're painting a fake picture.

And they know what they're doing. She can't claim the truth. Dude that she was renting from her. And was able to have a whole house with a Jaguar and a candle egg.

And a recording studio in a house never worked a job.

Come on. That wouldn't look weird would it. You can't sit here and try to find a real bad thing about this girl. And just cover up the rest of us the other. They drove down that road hundreds of times with me.

And others in the park. This was not an unusual route. It's all a damn lie. It's crazy. It's almost like as the years continue.

Uh, how about? Almost like as the years continue. Everyone becomes blind and retarded.

That detectives knows the lives he put up on the fan.

Those families will realize what they're doing and realize when they do.

Meet their kids again. They will also be a discusser design. This girl had no job.

Literally didn't benefit from shit from down.

But yet he cooked, cleaned and tear her for Christ's sake for birth. It was just 4 days. And he had reservations for a really expensive battalion restaurant. He had to do it. Why would she do it before that?

If she was trying to benefit from this. They try to sit here and say we've dryer. She's retined. Well, they're not so pleased. Uh, she threatened to go off the road where there are text between kids.

And most of the people came with a whole different story. And tell me, please tell me how that man got out of the car. If she was driving, no matter what was done by both of them in that car.

She would not give her six year boyfriend out on the highway.

They are feeding everyone lives. And all of these little ratchet ass MS, like this Morgan girl who's been in love with down for years, and has called issues in their relationship out here. Actually, she knows shit, but people, she's crazy for him all in half there. So we got this little bald head of psycho-genie on her job.

This girl who's 18 claims she's been addicted to cocoa.

Um, we were playing a whole lot of them.

Hmm. It's even a coconut. Multiple drugs for a couple of years come on people. You're really going to believe that piece of little trash is just as crazy in the head. And most likely, we have publicly pushed to it.

We got a dude who was in love with one of the victims that you're making up more lives and trying to be his own detective. Oh, he's talking about that. Wait, wait, so go back, go back. Okay, we got a dude who was in love with one of the victims out here

making up more lives and trying to be his own detective. Oh my goodness. Well, when I found out these men's past, it seemed as if before we even knew these and other information, we had people out here claiming it was on purpose. We had people claiming they were high on L.C.B.Turks and Mushrooms.

Now let me just throw this out here. So, can't be the center of the car. Well, I can't read this for the department. We cry. I just read it.

Can't be the center of the car. With her head down by her ankles.

Right now, I've asked almost 10,000 people and no one can explain it.

And then, as if you had your seatbelt and steering wheel at a normal distance, there's no way you can be found large there without either being known to mention for the crash or the steering wheel in the column was ripped out of the car. And if you look in pictures, that's not the case for fact. So, on a car right now, and get seated right and try getting down there.

It's one thing to be hunched in her lap or on the steering wheel itself. After they are big to sleep, but no, that's also not the case. And if you're keeping up to 10,000 on the test side about a diagnosis that is called pot. And what that is, is where if we're getting up quickly, not enough blood flow into the brain usually between eight to ten minutes.

It will pass out even if you're using up. It can also happen when you're just sitting. Now, check this out. This took them eight to ten minutes from where they left, where they crashed according to the way the group didn't say.

Also, she's been told right back, there's that she feels something coming out. She's like flat at her back. Photos of a car put her head between her name. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you Google and look up to the camera engine malfunction on Google, one of the main ones is from 2025 to 2022,

where incidents were out of the car. If you're making a turn, it can feed up to eighty ninety hundred miles per hour. It ranges from people putting the car in the car. After playing sudden RVM booths and actually getting out of their car. And their engine is blowing up.

The people crashing through houses. There are over 700 reports, but yet not familiar or effect anyone else wants to take that into accountability. She should say that to me. I don't know either. These prosecutors did hear and make a lie after lie.

These families are lying and accessing that. No remorse or anything for these families. And actually after speaking to someone close with one of the victims, I won't name names, but it's crazy how they didn't even want their own son back in their house. And they didn't even come back the second day they found out their kid had passed.

And as a parent, we all know anyone, and everyone would be back that same day. I am done with these grown-ass people, wanted to act like this is high school. There's some Batman justice movie. When this is real life. And it's both tried.

Turner, wait. Killing herself in that life. And a girl tried killing herself in that house. We were the best friend of boyfriends, not anymore.

This girl has never experienced life a thousand.

And she would never do this. And she would never not do this with another person or the car. Then they act like Davey, it was just some object in the car. And he was just magically there. When no one, no one knows. She was there for a reason.

Because he trusted them. He trusted them. He trusted him enough to accept him into their home. And yeah, remember that their home. So that video of her locked out of the house.

It's her house too. She lived there for almost a year. This is just thickening.

They're all so thin.

That was somewhat there after she stayed here. But no.

You don't want to take her pain and feel it.

That she will never see her boyfriend again.

It doesn't know when. And they're trying to do that. Again, or interpreting it to be bad. Please people open your fucking eyes. Like truthfully, if you're coming from someone that has never been in this girl's friend.

Or had a cure for this girl. This was coming from somewhere. That's who's in the back to take through all the lives. And it's just doing what's morally right in my heart. This whole community is going to help.

And I'm certain of it. I feel it. Also, what's not high is this. There were five perfectly, perfectly healthy fine people. That's all three of their native minds that spent hours with them before they passed.

By the 10 minutes before they lost their lives. And are they testifying? They must have not been called. These are the prosecutions. Or the defense.

One piece. One due to they know the truth. These kids will speak.

And if one doesn't show up intentionally, restart the whole trial.

People do their messages. They're not to help them be in any sort of way like I said. It doesn't matter to me when happens. The public just needs to know the evil that's the hiding family. And the law of the people need to see if people in public.

They continue to cause attention and people to look at them differently. And these people should not be allowed to live a carefree life after all the lines. That's on every single YouTube video. Who is the way who was that? We don't know who that was.

No, I have no idea. I have no idea who the fuck that is. Neither. And selfie responded. He was like that is 100% spot on.

They putting it everywhere. Everywhere on every Facebook post. Do that one in a flash. Oh my God, I love that. It's so long.

Isn't that amazing? Who the hell is that? I don't know.

Everything that's all concerned was, oh, that's like the idea was like, did I write that?

Yes, I love that thing. Me too. It's a safe profile.

I don't know if that's their real name.

And there's no picture or anything. That's just back right there. I can call you back. Yeah. Yeah, call you back.

Yeah, you all got to get to it. And then, then, then, publish the one that's posting it every word from Facebook on the YouTube. Are you for real? Yeah. Are there, like, people other people are applying to it or are they likes on an inch?

I don't think so. There's never one in. And then you think, has no reason. No reason. Good bye.

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This is first of all. Okay. What? What?

What? I'm talking about daddy. We're not talking about myself.

So, what does night card do? Good medicine. Oh. Did that long? Wait.

Hang on. Can't be. Okay. Has everybody on a lot of meds? There are a lot of people.

How many people are on your floor? Like, there's like over 10. I don't know. I don't know exactly how it is. Oh, that's not bad.

Oh, well, that is okay. 10 and 20 are different. I said more than 10, probably like 15, 20s. Okay. Are you going to be able to jump in the shower? I hope.

Okay. Okay. Who are you? Who are you? Who are you?

Who are you? Who are you? Oh, you don't need to go up in my office now that I'm standing. And I'll go right down with you to say. Where she should just message me.

Did you get coffee? The coffee, that's okay. What do you say? And there's something I had to do. I don't even know what you're supposed to win a Monday.

What if you have to wear the orange? I don't have orange. It's not orange. I wear blue. Oh.

Who wears orange? The boys. I thought the girls wore orange, though. Me too. It's weird.

No, I wore blue. I showed you my outfit. On the phone. Yeah, I know. I saw my wife every day.

Oh, and they were orange every day? Yeah, the boys were like, you know the color of my shoes. Yeah. That's the color of their outfit, the boys. Mmm.

I'm going to put you on figure so that I can write. Okay.

What are you writing?

Oh. What are you writing? Yeah. Oh. Do you need a staff?

All right, you ready? Yes. But we kind of love. Okay. To the families of Dom and Davian.

Do you have that? Uh-huh. I've set it a million times. Okay. But I am so deeply sorry.

I hope one day. But you can see.

I would never let this happen.

Okay. Or do it on purpose. I'm just heartbroken. I wish I could take all your pain away. Long live the boys.

Thank you. And then, to my family and support. I thank you. I thank you all. Thank you.

For seeing the real. Go ahead. Under all these lies. Go ahead. Thank you for not stopping.

For me and all the love. Okay. And support. I love you all. So much.

Thank you. And then, I pray one day.

People will see me as this monster.

Bear making me out to be. Would they? The prosecution. And court. The judge.

Okay. So bear making me out to be. Thank you. But that's what I wrote.

You shouldn't even say something like that.

People seeing me as this monster. If you got a chance. Yeah. Well done to you guys. I'm just going to say what I said.

Yeah. It's perfect to me. Okay. Tell people to tell me messages. I will.

But it's Saturday. You know what? It means the week. And they may be out or doing things. You know what?

I'll try and tell them to set a video call. You. Will you like better? You both. Video call.

They have a message. Maybe. Okay. So. I don't know why I went to my district right then.

I just did it in my notes on my phone. They're listening as these new beans in their shop. It looks so weird. They're like they're called like snake beans. Snake tongue beans or something.

What is? I don't know. There's a picture. I'm like, oh my god. The kids would definitely try that.

Weird answer. Look at what I'm saying. Whatever. So. Allison.

I'm saying. Talk to me about the squash. He's like you need to try the squash. The squash is good as book. You got to tell them I was cracking up because Allison posted these melons that

she has and somebody in the comics was like, do you guys have peaches yet?

People are giving a hard time about peaches. If that's all we care about are the peaches. Yeah. Other peaches are good as well. The best peaches I ever had in my life.

She's like, look at these melons. Oh, no. Where's your peaches? Cool melons. But where are the peaches?

Like, he's annoying. He's annoying. But I'm telling you, they have these beans. They look long, flat and fuzzy. I don't know what they are.

I like how they get all the critiques to cool shit. Yeah. Me too. I want to work there. Yes.

I'm sure that would be so funny. Then you go to the farm. Oh, my God. You would be so loving all this whole process. Yeah.

Maybe one day. Yep. Keep your... Start here to the light.

And they'll just be good to work for like a small business.

I don't want to work for a no like big business. I can just have like multiple jobs. But then like, I don't want to have no free time. I don't like that. Well, when you do what you love, that is like you free time.

You don't mind doing it. You love to do it.

Yeah, I'll get first pick on everything.

But it's not like work because not only will you love it. But it's your... it's like family. You know what it means that you're like excited to go. I'm about to get a shower in a second. Good.

I'm gonna wash my hair.

Mm-hmm.

It does really make 'em off.

It has breakout real bad. Yeah. Is that that lotion stick I gave you?

Is that also... can you put it down your face?

Should I put it on my face? I put it on my face. Good. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

Hey, what's that doing? I don't know. But Auntie just showed me something. Somebody is going off on Facebook again. And I swear to God, they know everything.

Everything. Everywhere. And it's like spot on. Who is it? That is Lucas.

I told her. I told her. It's that same one. But they know everything about everything somehow. And I don't know who it is.

Yeah, Daddy was like, "Did I write this?" Again. Yeah. You know.

What are I saying this time?

I could do it. You love it. I just found out that you live in her basement. She's done his lawyers for years and there's a criminal living in the house. And I mean, just everything.

What the fuck? Everything. I don't know how they know this stuff. So I told them Auntie Tiffany to use she can contact them to see who that is. Who is that?

What the fuck? I need to know who that is. That's what I'm saying.

The only thing is, you know, you could be anybody.

They did use one word that points to them being a younger person. But I believe he grew up. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. Okay.

Pink. Very younger. Who cares? I mean, of course they would know everything if they're younger. Right?

Like this. This is definitely.

Well, they use it one time.

Like, okay. So this is a younger person. I want you to ask that one person if you do it. Yeah. We've tried to find out.

They're like, they're stretching and twisting. Everything. And none of this is true. And they did not all live with the family. He read it a house next door and they're making it sound like they did.

I mean, Kenzie, it's everything. Oh my gosh. Mm-hmm. I love whoever that pregnant. Keep talking, buddy.

I love who that is. Yeah, we and more people talking like that. There is a lot of it.

But whoever that is is like knows intimate details somehow.

I love this is fine. Me too. Yeah. Keep talking. For sure.

And I'm going to respond to them on media outlets. I think today. Yes. Please. I'm scared though.

I am going to. No, don't be scared. They're have dad do it. Well, they're scared. Look at, no, no.

I'm not scared. Okay. I just need to. I need to really formulate my words. Yeah.

I'm not scared, Kenzie. When I say I'm scared, I'm not scared to do it. I need to be careful to make sure that I'm doing it right. That's all because, you know, one word could make her twist things. You know what I'm saying?

So I just need to get leave. We'll count to make sure what I'm going to say is okay. Yes, please. Yeah. You know, me.

I don't fart without making sure it's okay. I was there for the prosecution. I'm not to get in the shower. Okay. I love you, love you, love you.

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Those two. Nina and Boba to shout off the rooftops for you. I know. Actually, she's coming over. They're coming over.

Here. Our house. Just talk to me about things. I know. I didn't say Nina and Boba.

I said Rosie. Nina and Boba. You don't know. That's what I'm talking about. I feel like Boba's more like ride in for me because he's both like like then Rosie.

Like it's weird. Because he's like me because he's her. I think that was her. I'm going to ask for that when she comes over. Ask her what?

Um, easy to see that. We just. He's all these things. I've to say. Um.

Okay. That's who I think. Me too. Right. So just I know you've been chiding and got scared and something like that.

I don't have fear. I just don't like I don't try to be a part of the loop. If you're just like. Like the rat or something like that. So we're just fuck.

No. That's what I mean.

It's just.

Pause on that.

I know it's hard to not feel that way.

It's like I'm very weird to the fuck out.

Like I don't. Hold on. She. I'm sure I'm gonna. I'm sure I'm gonna.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Okay. Okay.

I love you. I love you too. I love you too. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I got to trouble that night. For this morning. Why? I get in trouble.

Mommy got mad. Mommy got mad at me. For what? So. So that must mean it.

That must mean it like two weeks. We're gonna get in a car accident. And then I'm gonna be charged with murder. And so long as the fault is tough enough because. You know, because, you know, it's strong.

If you speed, if you speed it, you know, it's something bad. Anyway, I love you very much. I'm, I mean, before you baby.

I'm just like, you know, I mean, every waking second that I'm thinking about you.

That's all I'm thinking about. And it's one lucky. I love you so much. And I can't believe you are being put through the. This is.

I hope they. I hope karma comes back. In place. Everybody gets against you in the ass. So hard.

That they all disappear. That's all I said. And if I had a magic wand, if I had a magic wand, I wouldn't go back and help me. And for I make everybody else. I put my finger in everybody would disappear.

That's what I would do. That's how that's how angry I am.

They basically do so bad.

Okay, I gotta go. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

So that's what I mean. You got Army people fighting out here, baby. Okay. I can't talk on the phone. Yes.

I'm on my period here. And then like I just like feel gross as fuck. Like good. But I need to tell you those. Rosie and Baba and your friends.

I started a whole big candy group chat. We are all. Yep. We are all. That way.

How do you feeling? Okay. And they are part of that. Okay. But I don't know.

I like it's weird. It's like because last time I was like on the phone and free phone calls. Like when I was in juice. Like a juvenile facility. Like Sammy was in the car with Rosie.

And they were like both talking to me. And like, oh, like, yeah, man. Wait. Hold on a second. Hold on.

There was what? Who was? It was Sammy and Rosie in the car. And there was just like weird ass shit going on. Like, I don't know.

Okay. Well, listen. Here's what we'll do. Ask her. Okay.

Do you need to ask her too? And tell her that, like, kind of feeling weird as well. If you can tell her that yourself too. I will. I will.

I will. I'll tell her too. Ask her. If she says she doesn't hang out with anyone with her anymore. You have no choice.

But some of these her. Okay. Okay. My pleasure. Like right.

I'm going to have people watching her. And as soon as she hanged out with her. She's getting fucking blocked on everything. But she's due to take her out of the group chat. So we'll deal with that part.

Yes. But you have to, we'll just wait here. Thank you. No stress. You have a whole huge people out here fighting for you every day.

Oh, you know what? You don't have that man. You can just get my, like, message in here without, like, knowing anyone or, like, Well, he must, that's what I mean. He must do this.

I'm saying though. I'm saying though. What if somebody else gets my message? It's like, that'd be like, I know you could on purpose. You, and then if you don't want to do, I'm going to reply and be, like,

Only if they give me a stamp. I'm not replied without actually, yeah, I'm not applying for a stamp. But I'm going to be like, I was like, hey, thank you for the message. Cause you will get back to you very shortly. Her messages are overflowing.

Thank you so much. I'm just going to, like, pretend it's like a voice mail. That's a good idea for messages to support our, our overflowing. Yeah. That's a good idea.

Funny. Oh, yes. I'm going to do that.

Do you think I should write out what I'm going to say to, like, the court?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, like, exactly how, like, it doesn't need to be long. Like, I don't know what to say out. No.

No. No. A little bit. What I need to say, like, it doesn't need to be long. I'll just talk from, just talk from your heart.

Thank you. Don't say anything about, you know, the whole proceedings or the verdict or whatever. I'm not. And I'm not going to say thank you to the judge or anything. I was going to say thank you to the judge, but I'm not going to say anything.

I'm not going to say anything to the judge. No. You can tell her that, you know, you feel that, no, don't even say anything. I was going to say you can say that you feel she made a mistake, but you can't. Don't even say that.

I'm going to say it to you. Can I say it to you? What I'm going to say are going to wait? Oh. I think you can say it to me.

Okay.

I'm going to be like, I don't know if I should be like, I'm going to be like, well, first,

I'm going to start with the families of stay beyond and down. I just want to deeply apologize.

I don't think I'll forever be sorry.

And I hope that one day you guys can see that I never meant to do the sun purpose.

It was just a car accident. I wanted to tell you I'm sorry forever.

If I could take your grief away, I would take it away in a heartbeat.

I'm so sorry. Yeah. And then I don't know what else I would say. Yeah. Just like that.

It doesn't even have to be long, punk. I've been, I don't even know what I'm going to say. And then I'm going to be like, I'm going to say something to you. I'm going to say something to you. I'll be like to my family like something.

And support her. Thank you for seeing the reel in this. Yeah. I'm just fighting for me every day. You loved him.

You would not like. It's just so crazy, kind of. It's crazy. So. Yeah.

Just like that. Just like that.

She even say the judge, you know, if you knew me, she knew who I was.

You even had to say, don't you say that. Whatever. I don't know. I'll figure out why I am very soon. I mean, you think they would know who I am by, like, watching me in jail for fucking, like, nine fucking months.

But I guess that's not enough for them. But if I mean, if I can make an decision in, like, 19 seconds, like they say, then I don't understand how, like, I can't figure out who I am. But in all the time, that just doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry. Let's be going on on, like, like, people, like, I don't know.

Like, as people have been, like, posting about me, pillars that die down. I think it. Let's play down. Well, on my side anyway, I don't know, because I don't have snapchat or anything like that. But don't forget, um, good news travel fast.

Bad news travel faster. And people latch on to toxic and anger and rage more than people trying to support somebody in a situation. So it's not sometimes there's no sense in arguing with people on the internet because they're loud. So we're in a hotel, though. Like, just by Sammy, like, that's just weirding me to fuck out.

Like, how are you going to, like, try to be cool with me and, like, talk to me on the phone and ask me if I'm okay and shit. Who's Sammy? Yes.

And, this, you and this, in the car, smoking weed, what roses are like, what's up?

It's a follower, huh?

She probably just wanted, like, to fucking, like, feed and, like, do, like, a free blow or something, but, like, what if they got a car accident?

Would one of them be charged with a murder, like, I'm confused, like. Right. I know. Sammy's a follower. She's just doing it because it's because it's good to, that's good to do.

That's all. Rosie is strong. Sammy's not. I don't want to go in the courtroom if you sneeze in the courtroom. I don't feel safe with him anywhere near me.

I feel like he's going to attack me. Like, I don't know if there's anything you can do about that. Well, I'm going to refuse to go into the courtroom, man. Why, you can't. Don't even look over there.

I don't. But I, like, I knew I felt some weird shit last time. Like, I knew I could tell, like, some weird shit. And then he's, like, hugged and misruiser. Like, she probably the one that told him to, like, come harass me at the grave.

Follow me that day. Like, I know where this book, like. Yep. I know this isn't over. Okay.

Like, I hope.

And, like, what's, what's the point of, like, going through my phone all that time,

and finding literally, like, all the instances? Can't you say talking right now? Okay. I'm saying, I know, like, I know don't talk like that. Nothing will even show.

Nothing will even show. Like, why? Please stop. We have a good, we in a different lawyer. Like, I don't give a fuck.

Like, that was the, we, I'm so weird out by him too. Like, I just don't, just, just, just shows us this, just wait. I know. Hold on. Dying this.

Dying this. Dying this. What time do we get our comm tomorrow? Like, later in the afternoon? Yeah.

So I'm not, yes. All right. It's coming. Let's come in, like, kind of, like, on the earlier side, like, eight to, like, one. Oh, there you go.

Good. I just want to get moving to where we are. I'm going to get moving to where we are. Yeah. Good. I just want to get moving around too. That's where I'm at.

Yeah, like, he did 12. He. Oh. Yeah. Oh, no, Rosie just needs to talk to me though.

Because, like, she needs to tell me what's up. Like, I'm going to block her. Oh, that's what it's all about, you. Is it working on that one? Yeah.

Yeah. She needs to tell me what's up. Like, I'm going to block her. Oh, that's what it's all about. Is it working on that one?

Yeah. I was trying to do again. Yeah. You try it. I'm like, it's some sand, like, it can't be completed in it.

It's long as I'm too low, right? Sure. Yeah. Messages are not loading right now. I'll keep trying to check my messages just.

Yes. Just saying shit in the message will pop up and be like, it's not working.

I'm about to tell the staff or something.

Did you read a grievance on the at one terminal?

I read a grievance on that terminal. Yes. Because what the fuck is that about? Good. This one girl was like, can we switch?

Like, you're the other video call at seven.

I was like, I'm not switching my video call. What? It's not like that. I thought, yes, I was hoping you don't know what I'm saying. You don't know what I'm saying because I do, I'm like, I'd be saying, I'm about to, yes.

Oh, yeah. What do you spiritual and shit? Like, crystal and spiritual? Yeah. Okay.

I mean, it's not like that. It's not like, my big bad, just do you want it. Not like that. I love it, movie. I love it, movie.

I'm dead. It's not like that. It's just more like, like, the carnivores. Like, the carnivores. And shit.

Like, stuff like, I don't know how to explain it.

Like, how do you explain to Gypsy? Like, the theatrical dancing type. Like, like, theater and shit. Like that. Like, they'd be like, very, like, kind of like, very, like, musicians.

Musical, spiritual, like, nature and shit. Right. Right. Oh, man. Oh, man.

Oh, man. No, no, no, no, no. What? What? You have one minute left.

What's all we're doing? You're doing that, too. What do you say? You have one minute left. What's all we're doing?

She's the real one minute left. We have one minute left. I'm gonna call you back. Yeah. What's your name?

I'm gonna call you back. Yeah. Don't hurt her last time. She was, I was like, shut up. Like, I was going to yell at her.

But not a word. It's like, me. So. Yes. All right, Mom.

I'm calling you back after this call. It's fine. Then you got to work at eight. So, who failed in? Would you say?

Yeah. One more call. Then I have to work. All right. I'll call you one more time.

What the fuck? All right. I'll call you back right now. I'll call you back. Okay.

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You know, I tried. I doubt my information. Really fast this book this time. What? I dialed my information really fast.

And I set up a card. So I can buy my phone for the thing now. Really? Yep. Oh, that's good.

Because I remember. I memorized my number by heart. Here you go. Good for you. I mean, you have a little bit of a key to the book.

But I still did it anyway. Did you look up on the county website if you like the county inmates? No. I want you to see my mugshot. Yeah.

I don't know why. I don't know. I don't know what the book's going to happen. I want to tell you something really bad. I can't tell you what the phone.

I don't know. When are you going to be able to do it? Oh, my gosh. She keeps peaking. Like I see you room 10 like for real.

All right. I'm not going to say, you know, I'm not going to even say that. All right. Don't. I don't know how we're going to do it.

It's Jim going to come see me before him. Probably not. But maybe you can tell him. I'm not going to tell him. Yeah.

Okay. What else has been going on online? Okay. So, would you tell my friend you changed my Instagram name? No, but I'm sure they don't know.

Well, I don't think anyone really knows that that's what like.

That's me. Yeah, you should just make a group chat for like 10 feet announcements. I did. Oh, really? Yeah.

That's how I used to have for this video purposes. Who is all in it? Oh, you're right. I'm trying to get calls number. They sent him a message on Instagram.

From my account. Oh, no. I just found him. I feel so random. What did you say?

Yeah.

When he says about you, it was like, I wanted it to be at my house for once because I never

do anything at my house. And then I did it. Well, I was in a bad mood. And then I think convinced me to like come do it at my house anyways. And then all that folks should just have been like.

I think that's something that just like got me thinking like. They was like, can you. I thought I would sleep on the couch with Dom all night, but Dom wasn't.

What Paul got up to see where everyone was.

Dom wasn't on the couch with me at 4 a.m. So where was Dom at 4 a.m. I just think about that all the time. Where was Dom? I don't know.

And that just like, where did me out? Yeah. That just like makes like so many more like possibilities of what kind of happened. Well, he called Blair like a 3/36 in the morning or something. He was calling this front.

Remember to raise a like thanks for keeping it with me. I love you. That kind of thing. Which is also super weird.

He never did it like that.

I don't know. Because he always told me she would like Blair. What the heck? You know, I've just seen the text message where he's like, I don't even fuck with Blair. Yeah, he would drop him this second.

Yeah, that's real good friend down there. Yeah. I miss him still. I don't care. I know you do baby.

I know we do. My little nug. Yeah. Poor Paul. He's so good.

I feel bad for everybody. Yeah, me too.

How did you not know how you survived that Korean conflict?

I'm going. Like, I don't even remember being coherent. Like, how they were saying I was like answering questions. Like, I don't remember that. Like, I don't remember any pain from the accident.

I don't remember. Like, what should we even end up in this incident? Like, how did we even get? I don't understand. I can't even go there.

I was like folded down. Yeah. It doesn't make sense to me. Like, I feel like, I don't know. You know, I can't go there.

I wish I could get hypnotized in here. You can't. I wouldn't remember so bad. I almost feel like it was like, I don't know. I don't know.

Oh, no. I'm not going to say, well, I have like my, I think I know. Like, I feel like I think I know what happens. But I don't know. I don't know.

But again, it could be wrong million days.

A million days. Like, I feel like it was another incident of like a Tom doing what he used to do all the time. In the car. That's what everybody can't feel. But I don't know.

If that's even true. Because, like, why would he do that with Davey on the car? Because he used to do stuff like that with other people in the car.

Remember that he used to do that in the car?

Yeah. Because he used, like, screaming at me because I dropped the line. And he didn't want to burn his car. But I was trying to get an issue with him in the car. And then he was like speeding really fast trying to scare us.

Mm-hmm. Dude, Kendrick, Kendrick should have said something like, "We should not Kendrick say things." Man. Just wait, that's what I mean. If we have to appeal to them, we'll just, we have to, we'll just wait.

Just wait. Let's hope that the judge makes the right decision. And then she can see. Thank you. Thank you.

What's all wrong? And you go and also think, I'll think about how, like, everyone that was in juvenile. Like, what they told me about the county. Like, it's all wrong. Like, they also mean wrong stuff about the county.

Like, I was expecting something completely different. Well, you're on the protection floor, don't forget. Well, I'm going to be off. I need to get the football floor. Well, I know, but is it better than what they said or worse?

Worst. Me. I mean, like, yeah.

But basically, we would go to a broomstick in my butt and stuff like that.

Like, what the hell? And, like, they was going to, like, try to, like, bitch me right away and shit. Like, none of that is going on. You might be on the other floor. But I need to get the foot removed off the spot.

Why, so you can deal with that. You want to broomstick every time?

Honestly, at this point, I don't want to rather have to deal with shit.

Like, that's a deal with, like, free people. I don't like people that are slow. I don't like them. I don't want to be a real slow people. I don't want to hear, like, weird laughing at night.

I don't want to hear someone being me. I'm every single night. I said, knowing his foot, like, you almost got me starting to be like me. I'm, me, I'm in my room. Like, I was just doing it to those boards.

Like, man, like, you sit in the room and knock on me. He's slow ass. Like, I don't want to be on the monitor. Oh, no. I don't know.

I'm not even going to sleep for now. I'm almost done with this book. It's getting good as fuck. And I want to keep reading it so bad. But like, I'm no wait.

I have to wait till I'm, like, I can't read it. Your books are coming on the 19th. Do you know the 19th? Mm-hmm. That's so long, though.

It's still so long, right? But at least there's not the 21st. Oh, you choose what, like, things, like, what screen I do the video calls on? No, okay. So it's just, like, text one.

Mm-hmm. Okay. But, yeah, I said, like, not on this terminal. And I'm like, okay. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know. Well, it wasn't lunch. It was in meeting the tables a little. And green beans, but I did not eat them. And these little Oreo cookies that are, like, not Oreo, but they're, like, yeah.

White, unlike the tan Oreos and the dark Oreos on top. And they're good as fuck. I love those. Ooh, that's like a vanilla cookie and a chocolate cookie with a cream. Yeah, it was so good.

I was like, my favorite thing. I had a bed bed meeting those for months. Like, I'm cookies as good as fuck.

Mm-hmm.

But I'm hungry right now.

So I might just, like, go on my room and eat a pie of cookies.

Yeah. Did you say producers, did you drink anything? No, she didn't eat anything, either. We don't eat anything. We don't eat anything.

We don't eat anything. Oh, nice. She didn't eat anything. She didn't eat anything. You don't eat anything.

You don't eat anything. Oh, yeah. She's so nice. We don't eat anything. She didn't eat anything.

She didn't eat anything. She didn't eat anything. We don't eat anything. We don't eat anything. We don't eat anything.

She's the reason why I eat anything. She doesn't eat anything. She doesn't eat anything. She doesn't eat anything.

She doesn't eat anything.

So I've been working. Mm-hmm. She likes more things. I don't even think I can look that up. That's not a thing.

Just look it up. It'll probably come up. One is maybe killed. Mm-hmm. Please, please, please.

Please, please, please, please. She's a widow. Okay. There's a, there's a, there's a, what's up? We've known the form of a trauma-wise trauma.

It's something I made or something that you made. No, days, I can't have thought the Oculus. Oh. Do you try that one? Um, probably the way I was looking at it says hi, baby.

Did you hear me? Hey, dad. She said hi. Um, I found a thread where it's down the desk. And you see why I do things a little briefies.

And you're like, those white circles things with this wrinkle. And he said, "This gotty?" Oh, I don't know. Maybe that's them. That doesn't sound familiar?

Oh, no. I don't know anyone. That thing is a mystery. [laughs] Well, I can get you an old cart.

You can? I don't know. Maybe that one. I don't want an old cart. Oh, man.

You must be totally different than mine.

I got a holiday kit with the foot of the food chip. And you can buy like what's the foot? Artificial tears, white man. You can buy, like, massive lactatives, hemorrhoid oimi. Wow.

Tylenol muscle rub. It's a hemorrhoid oimi, not be bad idea for your, um, That's really good for, like, bags under your eyes. It's just like that. Please, I'm not.

You can buy commentary on this bitch, too. The whole shabang chip. Ooh, I like those. Maybe to buy her. Hershey's on buying jelly ranchers.

I'm getting some of them. I'm going to buy the jelly ranchers on mine. Yeah, because this is like old different. And they got lemonade, creamer, grape, coolade, hot cocoa. Ooh.

Oh, my god. I didn't get my chocolate on mine. That's awesome. And a brown sugar pop-triple. They're shooting.

Yeah. They're shooting. Yeah. And they got sweetest fish, too, and now one layer is like those.

The now and later is we're always sold out.

Those are like a hot commodity. In here. Mm-hmm. That's what it's like. They got hot cheetos, too.

They told me they wasn't know hot cheetos.

There you go. Good for food. What the fuck? What? They got crazy, yeah, shit.

They got ranch dressing, sausages. And they got, like, false on protein conditioner. Like, they got good conditioner and shit. And you're shampoo, contact lens solution. Skin care lotion.

Proline moisturizer, swab conditioner, swab shampoo, vessel and lip therapy. I don't have any of that stuff on mine. It's for us. It's for us. It's for us.

Yeah, that's cool. Mm-hmm. It just takes so long to get to you. You got to order like a week and a day. Is that how it goes for?

What is a bird amount? V-E-R-G-A-Mont. Gargamont? Yeah, what is it? What is it?

What is it in? I don't know. She's like a little like container. Let's put that in. Oh, yeah.

Oh, the mine. Here's the I-T-A-Mont. Here's the I-T-A-Mont. Here's the I-T-A-Mont. Here's the skincare lotion.

I like getting some of that too. Or proline moisturizer. Oh, that's her and scalp conditioner. Mm-hmm. Is it the type of a stick that's true?

What? We'll put on this again. I'm pretty sure. It's like a room there. We were applied to the skin.

The chemicals in the hot oil can make it skin sensitive. It's sunlight. It's used for high levels of cholesterol. It's used for high levels. It's used for high levels.

It's used for high levels. It's used for high levels. It's used for anxiety. mental awareness joint mean many other conditions. I'm getting that. But I'm not buying it yet.

The sense there's no good scientific evidence to support that other users.

Yeah, I cannot wait to call you. I just want to call you so bad. I'm probably going to see what I go back in my room again.

But like I sleep so much here. Oh, it's pouring outside. There's like not enough staff on Saturday. What you come to work like every day. I see you all the time. You're just like the trooper for you. Is that the nice one? You have one minute left. Alright mom. I just love you so much. I'm going to call you not now, but I'm going to call you.

That's fine. I love you too.

I can't wait to see either. If you want to call me again, you don't try and know what to try to call.

I love you so so so so much. I love you too. It's beautiful baby. That's cool. I'll give you something. Yeah. I will talk to you again when I at some of the clock during our video call. But I love you so so so so much.

I love you so much. I love you too.

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Yeah. Yeah. What do I mean? What the hell? It's okay.

Please hang up now.

And Maritha has must have had this app or something a while back or has known somebody in the prison for at some point.

Because the fact that she was able to message you that fast means that she must have already had the count. This wasn't heading or nothing. I don't know. I don't know. But that was super fast. Did you talk to her like after like yesterday? She sent me a message.

Okay, she's stringent. His mother is not a good person like me. It's great. She could just tell that through like. She threw the stuff that she saw red and. Yeah. You're so about where we can eat too.

Yeah, I'm sure. Go bad. Feel like we're to be out to answer that to anyone. If it doesn't fall. Stress and trauma, I mean, haven't happened to you.

Yep. There's just like I can tell you her and I can't feel it. Oh, my goodness. She's like really spiritual too. She's so glad you can talk to them.

And you can call her. And of course, you can call her anytime. As soon as she can set up this video thing, she's going to give you a number. You can call her whenever. I love her so much.

She doesn't talk to me about we always talk about our boyfriend.

I know. I know I can't wait for her to get in contact with you.

I've gone through a phone and can you think of anybody else that I didn't think of?

What do you want to say? What about Phil? Because he keeps sending me that he loves me. I love you. Yeah. Probably yes.

Okay. Really? Anyway, I was about to just like post it online. That's why I wanted to ask you first. I don't want people like, you know, wolf and she's clothing coming into message you and then giving you messages that are not nice. Oh, I don't care about if I can have a message that's not nice. I can have a black people.

Okay. Okay. We're going to have a bunch more people coming in hopefully today. Yeah. I wish I had my cooking eyes as like.

There you go. That's okay. This is good. This is okay for now. Could you not? Because I'm going to get to come out for like an hour and 30 minutes or just 45 minutes. The least it's something that was what I mean.

It's difficult for now, better than it's what it was.

What do you mean it's better than what it was?

Could you do anything to access to anything before?

I don't care. I like to better there before.

No. I mean before the this before the messaging, you know what I mean?

Before that all your friends are messaging you. Yeah, but I still don't care. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I already have like I should have paid you. What's the thing I have for a day for a Monday?

Maybe calling to me. I don't want to be protected. I really don't want to be protected. I don't want to be protected. I know.

I don't like that you. I don't like it. No, it's good. Follow me all over the place. Yeah.

I'm just going to follow. Wait. She's getting better. She's not so like vicious. You know what I mean, she'll feel like when you're petting her and she'll go to leave.

She'll slide it. But she's coming down. We're really miss the cat so much. Yeah, I know you're doing well. I was going to send you pictures, but I don't want you to be.

Oh, I can't send you pictures.

I always say it because I was going to send you like a little video.

I can do like 30 minutes video, I think.

I don't know. I got a look through it because I think I can. I got a look through it. I can't ask. I can't see that and save.

Well, I'm kind of going through this and what I can't do. Yeah, does she ever sleep that lady? She went to sleep. She sleep right now, so it looks like 48 hours to go to sleep. She better stay sleep the whole fucking day.

She's talking her the phone out today. She's being annoying. Yeah, that's crazy. She's so irritating. I don't like her.

How old is she? I don't know. Like, grow in this book. Like, like, 30 probably or some shit. Like, can we know she's playing there all day?

Yes. Wow. She's crazy as well. Yeah. Let's take a look at that.

It depends because she's in there all day. She's still like super polite like that. Like, it doesn't even just even know basically where she is. That's crazy. No, like, it's giving like girl like you don't.

She doesn't understand her brain. Don't work. I don't think like. No. That's messed up.

So what if, so if I get found like guilty or anything tomorrow?

So what's going to happen? Because I don't know. It's like am I going straight to Mary's room? Or like, do I have a sentencing? Like, I'm confused.

I don't know, baby. I don't know.

This is something I've never heard a million years thought.

We deep haven't done a deal with or we go through. And I don't know. Yeah, no, I would be the one to just get like fucked up. And like not like set like it's fucked up. It's not your fault.

That's your fault. Right now, but it would be everyone would try to make a scene like that. And we'll try to make me go to the other way. Just got a wrap up with a wrong, not even wrong, wrong family. Yeah, it's like this.

They suck. That is what I don't like them. No. So we are just fucked. Yeah.

To answerable people, I know. So we will see. And then we'll just deal with whatever you want. I want to make friends cut that like voice mail from like the drug enforcement. Yeah.

And I showed Mr. Russo because I wanted to like protect the angel. Because like I knew Angela was like something drugs. Yeah. And then she wanted to like send it to the police. Like, and then it left out the part where I like send like it.

I'm worried for Angela. As interesting. Just wait. I just can't be a cannot. I'm so sorry.

I don't know. Interesting. Like I love how they just like like leave out like little bit of information. Sure, of course. Yep.

Because it doesn't fit their narratives. Seriously. Here are the terrible people. I'm sorry. Yeah.

That's it.

You're doing it.

I'm cooking cannot. Yeah. But. More.

But the response on line.

Like people like what could have been this. It could have been that. It could have been this. It could have been that. People are all saying.

Yeah. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. So people don't think it was my boat. There's a lady.

No. The one was like, I don't think it was intentional. No. That's what that.

That's what the general consensus has become.

Because it's the law. If we could have won it. No. No. No.

No. No. Because there's still other people that are like. I don't care. She did this.

This.

And she should get the death penalty.

Like that person doesn't know you. But that's how some people are talking. Oh. Nope. You make the right choice.

Is it more good or more bad? It's more good. It's better now. Okay. It's better now. You made the right choice. I just been like, "Do you look at shit for so long, and it's like draining so bad, like I learned like I made the right choice."

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Why? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Hi, how are you? I just came across your story online. I'm just wanted to reach out and see how you're doing. I'm Steve. I'm 43 from Long Island for New York.

Holy crap. I've been on the long side of a lot with drinking and driving twice. So I know how being left up can get. If you ever wanted to talk or need a friend, I'm here for you. Because.

Hello. Who's saying hey? Hey.

Can you ask somebody what the number for the word in this?

So messages are working. I don't know. So tell me who will message you. I'm messaging Steve and Campo. Okay.

I'm going to write his name down. Kenzie. It's on the today show. Why? Girl.

I'm telling you they're bugging. Why? What are they saying about me? It's not on the TV. It's just online.

And they're just reposing a story. But that's okay. That's okay. Right? That's all right.

Plants with speech. Right. That's okay. Write your book. Start writing your book.

You see what I'm saying? I mean, my baby book. To write my book though. I know. Well, maybe I can't read it though.

You start writing your book. So, okay.

I'm going to write these names out from these randoms.

That's so nice. They're doing it. Because they're having less. Because that's like, I mean, I would be telling her about this name.

Stephen, can't see. Hey, MPO. Okay. That was nice. Good.

I wasn't going to call the warden today and ask her about. Uh. Oh, my god. I got no sleep last night. Tell me why.

Like, she would just fake throw in up all night. Like, it was so irritating. Like, what? Yeah, it's like making herself throw up all night. I just had a look at it all night.

Yeah. It was disgusting. Ew! That noise just makes me wonder. Yes, I kind of liked her here.

All night. What the hell was she? What the fuck? Why is she locked up? Why is she locked up?

What the fuck? What? What? For the one of the girls that we like, I talked to in here in my locker.

Uh-oh. Why, we happen. Uh-oh. Yeah. Yeah.

I have highly video calls for that. I have four. Yeah. Oh, it'll be work.

I have to say it's when I think we need to reach out.

I need all the support I get. I'm hoping. But that truth comes out eventually. Okay. Just say it'll be, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Ew. How do you feel eventually? Ew.

Ew. Ew. Ew. Oh, I got to type it. Hey.

No. No. Uh-oh.

Ew.

Ew. Ew. Oh, my God. It's so good. I need all the support.

I'm hoping that you could do that eventually. And then talk about this. Thank you. Um, we'll have you answer your story. Time.

In jail. So it's scary. Wait, I didn't hear your last sentence.

I said, this is my first time in jail, so it's scary.

Oh, wow. Ew. How long were you locked up? You came and seen something like, after this, um, I feel like half the people in jail are innocent.

Remember, just don't talk about the case with anybody, right?

Because we don't know. He could be a reporter. We don't know. Oh, I wish he wasn't a reporter. I'll talk to him.

No, you can't talk about the case, though. You just don't know who anybody is. Remember, you can't not talk about the case at all. I know. I think randoms.

Right. Or with anybody. But yeah, especially randoms. We don't know who they are. I feel like half the people in jail innocent.

Yeah, 100%. Oh, I got my books. Yay. Oh, that's a quick turnaround time.

Because usually when I step, drop stuff off at jubilee, you get like four days by day and later.

And I get hashtag free chance. There you go. That's what I'm going to do. Oh, I'm so nervous. And he even sent me, oh, he did.

He sent me a stamp. So he's, you know. Yeah. On that is for sure. Just remember, they could be reporters.

Oh, I got one from the other case. You fades.

I have, I'm a message which is named now.

Each is Kevin. I'm from Madeleine. Late next year. Very hot. I do love that you can call me all the time, though.

Oh, I know. I love that. Me too. When I need to. Hold on.

Somebody is showing.

Yeah, we're going to just let you make me nervous.

We're going to random shower. Okay. I don't know. I need a piece of paper. You want loud last night.

Why would you puking? You already tell me to be quiet. [laughs] Oh, my goodness. That's scary.

You got to keep the paper. All right. Thank you. I'm about to, you got to write down. So I can message them back.

She's like, wait, wait. Tell me why last night. She's like, just like, you're going to die and I'm going to die. And I'm going to come in to your butt. I'm like, I'm like, I'm telling you.

I just like, I would not. I'm like, oh my God. I wish my mouth could hear this. Like, I was like, what the fuck is going on? Oh, my God.

Oh, and I got a video call at these times. But what sort of? I have them at, what? So probably, you're going to be here all day or just for this one. One, thirty-five.

Yeah. I'm just going to go and sit and watch the rest of these. Come on, be careful. All right. Thank you.

All right. After I'm done, what I want to talk about. Wait, Kevin, let's cut this last name. Zimmerman, the IMMERM man. He's from Madison, North East Ohio.

Okay. And where is Stephen Campbell from New York? Yes. Long Island New York. Oh, my God.

I just, I know I have this feeling that something going to happen. Like, with all these people reaching out. Like, makes me feel like. Yeah.

Like, remember that one guy who got arrested for murder

and he became like a model because he was just like, everyone was like, loving his mugshot. Well, yeah. It's over. It's over.

I got your intention. Now, like, I watched that movie with him in. You did? Yes. It's called the secret society.

It's a good as fuck. Yes, you are. Oh, yes. That's fine. See, now he was arrested for murder.

He probably didn't even do anything. That's my song. Okay. Okay. Hold on.

It's been, I'm sure. So, yeah, we can talk about anything. Like, what do you like to do? I, what do I, heart, to do? And then, what music, or for music, music?

Oh, my gosh. Did you hear anything last night? That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah.

On the clock. I think I did. I just didn't get up. That was sweet. Oh, I knew she wasn't going to call.

I should have been ready. She was playing music. That was her in the Yelp cafe. I gave him your YouTube channel.

There were bumping music from your YouTube channel.

They were supposed to be there in 830, but he didn't get up until super late. I was probably sweet, but like, I swear I heard something. That's what I told her. I'm like, she's probably sleeping on me. Oh.

Isn't that so? She's so sweet. Sorry. I love it. Yes.

Mm-hmm. What is the other one is with?

How many of these messages are from you like the video chat?

I think I have two. I do my two nighttime ones. Maybe. What do you have? What time are they?

730. Like you're two. And then 1 at 1 at 1 at 7. Same again. Cool.

After I'm texting, I'll do a second.

Okay. You usually. Oh, my God. We did count today. I'm so freaking excited for you.

I usually can talk every day, but it's a system. Okay. I'm so glad I remember to tell you this. Please, for sentencing. I want you to bring me my, I've done girls here.

I want to wear that. Why don't be sentenced. Oh. And I want to wear my black duty track suit. With my dime girl shirt.

Okay. I mean, what does it even matter? I mean, she already had her opinion on me the whole time. So I'm wearing my dime shirt. Black duty.

And oh, okay. That's what you've got arrested. And actually, right? Yeah. Okay.

Because that's in the bag. I don't know where that is. That's all in that bag. Okay. Okay.

I can't believe I said that for consultants.

Whew. People are so gross. Like a judge that's doing Trump's case. She's getting threatening letters from people. That Trump's not elected in 2024.

They're going to come to our house and kill her. Like, people are so gross. Social media. I hope this. I wonder what job would think about this?

What do you? Or Trump? Trump. You know, he would totally be on Trump's side. I know.

Okay. Businessman. Good. Businessman. What's that?

He would totally be. Oh, my God. This is so annoying. Oh, man. I'm going to.

I have one at 135, seven o'clock, seven thirty and eight. Oh, maybe I do have.

Does it take all the night?

I don't care. I like what I do because it helps us stay out longer.

I think I did because I wasn't sure if the terminal was going to work.

And that way, if it wasn't working, then a call would be on another one. You know what I mean? No. All my calls on this terminal. Okay.

That might all be me at the end. Oh, my God. She even camped. Oh, that is so fucking funny. That's so weird.

Oh, we were the leaders. So yeah. Keep your guard up. I'm 43. I know you're 19 because it's setting on the news.

But I'm pretty free. So what's up? Oh, my God. These people are paying money to talk to you. As they should.

I'll. Wild. Oh, um. Page text me. Oh, the shabby one.

No. Wait. Oh, um. Michigan. I think so because she's a mad handy.

What'd you say? Oh, my God. Um. Oh, my God. It's so long.

She's setting your situation before. Um. I know. She. I wish to talk about all the time.

Yep. But she didn't get charged.

Whatever we can't talk about it right now.

On the phone. Anyway, she knows that you loved Dominic with all your parents. Um. And you thought you're so seen with him. You know, all the way to the end of life.

You know, and married and everything. You know. We're all together. Um. Oh, you know, the kind of loves that man with all her heart.

I'm so sorry. If you can please send, can't see my number. Call her to call me whenever she's ready. I just want to tell her I'm here for her and I support her. No matter what.

So I'm going to send her the information to download. Did you hear all that? Okay. I was a program. I love her.

Mm-hmm. Um, you know, don't believe the media don't believe everything you hear. We're going to stop fighting hashtags free. Can't see. You hear that hurt?

We're not in here. Fuck. Well, let me turn you up because this bitch is yelling. If you have one minute left. And I'm a call.

I'm just going to call you background. Okay. Hi. I love you. Hello.

Hello. This is a pre-paid collect call from. And incarcerated individual at Kayahoga County Correction Center. This call is not private.

It will be recorded and maybe monitored.

If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow the facility instructions to register this number as a private number to accept charges and to thank you for using.

Secure us. You may start the conversation now. Hello. Say something. Oh, I got a message.

What are you saying? From Stacy. Oh, yeah. I love her. She was here before.

Oh. Some clad. Good.

I love that you can talk to these people.

All your friends and everybody that loves you. She said they have she has letters for me and books. The her son wrote me too. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Somebody else has a bunch of letters too. Nicole? Oh. Nug? Nug wife?

Yeah.

She's got some stuff too.

And I just said, well, don't send anything yet because you keep it. I don't know what's happening. Oh. And everybody's stuff is happening. And please make it some more today.

Oh. What was this? Oh. Oh. Oh.

I got no sleep. Last night. I was so mad last night. Does it hurt? Mom.

It was so bad last night. Can they listen to the help? I don't know. What are they going to do? They're going to come back.

Oh, she was so fucking irritating last night. She was pissing me off. So fucking behind.

I was about to freak the fuck out last night.

And like, she burst. She got to like, like, talk into herself. Like, I don't even know what she was saying. She didn't know. I was up all night just from her, from her.

Not shutting the fuck up. Sorry. Do you get a pillow in there? Oh, I am using my blanket pillow. Okay.

I have to. Oh, I am using my blanket pillow. Okay. I have to work from 8 to 445. Oh, that's not bad.

Oh, oh. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. I did it. What?

I'm good. Say it's last night. I was dying if she heard me banging. I was having a lot of leaves. She's like, I don't want to leave.

I just want to set up a tent here and stay here. She said what I started yelling with people in the building next to us started yelling. That was so fun last night. It was fun hearing you both scream at the same side. I was banging hard as well.

I have a little picture. They say it's time to point it to the room. You're room. And I took a little picture of them pointing to the room you made.

I think they could see you, but I couldn't see you in the photo.

I'm so tired. I'm not going to put it. Perfect. This is where you write your room. I'll put it to sleep.

So, we can party there with us. We'll just order a storm. It's where we're at the morning right in the middle of the party. Of course. I know.

But we still had the pants. Oh, you were. No. No, I was working. I remember I had to make up my hour.

But you know, the pictures just were playing in the puddles and there was playing back of all the movies. Oh, he's like at the basketball. Oh, my God. Yes.

You've been upset. I'm sad. Oh. I wish that John would have loved to play basketball. Oh, my God.

They would have had so much fun. So much fun. That's so cool. I know. I had so much fun playing with the kids with them.

Mm-hmm. I know, baby. Oh. Ah. We could get tomorrow.

We should be my last day in my room. Oh, right. And then we have them. Then I come out with general population. They've done their room a long time ago.

Because we have so many like people who have to come out like at different times. Like they're still on the seventh floor. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully I get moved.

I don't know though. I don't know. If you don't want it's really okay. I like it's from pretend I did. I don't like that.

I don't. I don't know.

If you think I know what I think and what I'm going to think of my time.

I understand. I'm saying I'm looking. I'm okay either way.

I'm not.

So. Did you ever call it? I don't know. Is that lovely? Yeah.

I don't know what's up to do like.

But the crew. I'm going different.

I don't know why they put me with like speed issues.

I'll keep the people. We like you didn't need to make it to music create a music. Can you um. Will you lose? Will you lose?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Can you um. Will you lose? No.

Like same for different rooms.

No. Me. Not like. No. I'm so irritated.

I like hate her so much. I like fucking hate her. Like so goddamn much. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What's better? Nothing.

I just woke up. Oh. Okay.

I just sleep. Why? Because with bitch in the room, right by me, you just talk to herself all night and like it allowed all night and it's so like she does vastly by her.

Sorry, I don't like her. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Mom.

The score is too deep. I need to go off the score. Okay, we'll see. I mean, we'll get a fight up tomorrow. So I mean, one more night. Hopefully. Yeah. I'm nervous for tomorrow. I'm angry. I'm coming tomorrow.

Yeah, absolutely. Nothing will keep me away. Okay. All my friends and people to come tomorrow. Do what is the best we can, pumpkin? All right. I love you so much, dear. I love you too, pumpkin. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I'm angry for you.

I'm really angry for you. Yeah, it's a shaving. I don't know. Yeah. Well, you're getting a bad deal, baby. That's okay. I mean, I don't know. The structure, the structure, the structure, the idea, the traffic tutors must be a, must, it must be a, you know,

a luxe in your farm. I mean, they're scrolling you. I mean, that's, they, they had you on a, an own V and they didn't do it. This is wrong. I mean, it's just fucking, it's fucking irresponsible.

They, they both, they guys, they, with this part, the judges probably should be this part. Well, not this one, but at least the first one. Well, you know what I'm saying.

Anyways, I got to go because I'm going to say something and it's going to make someone feeling hurt.

Okay. All right. Bye. I love you so much, dear.

I love you too, pumpkin. Talk to you later, buddy. Hey. Come on. Call my genus.

I'm so annoyed. I can't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. Last night. Yes. Like, she, like.

But I just want to be with you. I wasn't talking about this judge. He was talking about the other one. But the other one, he did, like, really good thing. He doesn't know if he's just hurt. You know that, right? I don't.

Because he has nothing to do with me. That's just what you think. Right. I don't know why you say why you say why you. You hear? Oh, I have three video calls today, but it doesn't actually. I was wrong. It doesn't say who.

Oh, my gosh, it's three. Yeah, I'm one at nine, one at seven at one at seven thirty. Oh. Okay, so those might be, oh, no. No, it's not 30 minutes. Those might all be me.

Because they're all, it's pending. Yes. What do you say? Because everybody else is pending still. So they can email us this. They just can't video.

From live, they can't email us. Because they don't know that they can. I just told them that they might be able to. That's what they say. So once they can. Or once they can't get.

Maybe they can. You know, the hair, my legs are so long. They can make a coffee getting ready to go to work. Do any of this work against me? The time to show you work.

Oh, that was two. You sent two. So take three. What? You take her to work?

Usually if I'm not working, but I have to work for days to take her. And I'll pick her up.

I'm going to go to the store just on the finish of her swing set.

So. Do you ever ask a single about all my stuff at that? I'm down. Can you just try to pick it up?

No, we just talked about that yesterday, remember.

I know you said we'd probably not think where it was taken. No, I had to tell you something. No, you asked me about it yesterday. On the phone. No, then I have no.

Right yet. I don't like to figure it out honey. I don't know if it would be so bad. We're just talking to the angels. You know, can you please put a picture of me?

Yeah. It was like I did not. So. I would have wrong with them.

First of all, I'm didn't even like you.

First of all. I don't know why. Everyone might like gone. I didn't even fuck with that much. I could like a protector of like.

We're just. We're just. Well, even respond. So that should have been a. The first time that that was not going to happen.

Which. I just think about everything that they said. Now it's just like they're like. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm like what was that? What's the buzzer? I literally like evil is both. Yes. They are.

Well, they're hurt. Two. Which is making it worse. This one's seen there. Which is like here's like.

I've been like. I've seen them. We don't need to see their teeth. We don't need to see the. We just need to see the.

We just need to see the. We just need to see the.

It's the whole family is just I can't get with it.

Because. Oh my gosh. We just. Wait. You.

But every get you with some. There's a thing. They said. To you. Personally.

It's a message of love and. Kind of towards everybody. I don't get it. They would like fight for me and shit. Yes.

I don't get it. What's the love you. You're safe with us.

You'll always be part of our.

Feel. I don't get it. I'll get it. That's some. That's a level of evil.

I will never. I'll never understand because why they didn't have to do all that. If it's. Listen me. Or they could.

It's not. It's like. They could. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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I don't even know why. What kind of mental bullshit is that? I don't. I don't have to. Like I literally hate to hear so much.

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I'm going to call you back. I do love. I mean, you can see the cities. Oh, that's painful. Oh, I love looking out my window.

There was a brown game. I was staring outside. I seemed like some cars.

I was always Macau my window.

I was like, I have to. So I stack all my books up. So I can like see also window. And then I stand on my book. And I just like stare on the window.

Good.

And does the sun set on your side or no?

What did you say that? I can't see the sunset. Oh, the moon? What could you see that name? I can't see she.

All I see is buildings. I see all the construction. Put on. I can't see the sunset from a window that's like right in front of me. Oh, good.

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Oh, I thought I was going to go over there. Oh, they cut the phone's mom. So after this is my last call. Okay. What they cut the phone's what they mean.

They don't let you call after this. This is my last call with you. Okay. Okay. Well, it's almost time for the omelette.

Oh, yeah. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. I thought I was going to go back in your room at 9.30 anyway. Yeah, what time is it?

9.25. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I just said, you want to like the contact. Oh, that's subject.

Yeah, that's kind of cool. I love this. I love this. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. Good evening. One out of my five days. What do you think? Oh, my God.

Oh my god, my heart, oh my face already touched me back. Yay! Yay! I'm always pretty. I love you so much and waiting to get through the set of the call to you, but I love you so much, Mom.

I'm going to keep texting you though.

I think I can tell you when the phone's called off.

I don't know though. I don't know either. I don't know if you can. I love you though. Yeah.

But I love you so much, Mom. I'm going to try to talk to you as soon as possible tomorrow. Okay. Tips, pay attention to the board because we got a video call in the morning. What time?

Like around 9, 9, 3 to your something. Okay, I'm going to tell my staff. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to tell them how to do it and I'm going to tell them.

No, we're not. We're going to miss it. But I love you so, so, so much, Mom. Wait, 9, 3 to your 9. A little after 9, I think.

Just check the board when you wake up. All right. I love you so much, Mom. I love you too, baby. You sound better.

That makes me happy. Have a good name, Mom. Thank you for using. I love you, Mom. Have a good name, Mom.

Hello. This is a pre-paid collect call from. An incarcerated individual at Ayahoga County Correction Center. This call is not private. It will be recorded and made monitored.

If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number to accept charges and consent. Hello? Three. I got my convo.

Sure. Yes. Are you on your time right now? Yes. I got it.

Oh. So I don't have a window that sees outside no more. But like, I love, like, my new father. I love it. I got a roommate.

I got a roommate. Yay. Ann? Coolest book. Can you stop?

Mm-hmm. Okay. It's good for a McDonald's. She got her pad moved. She doesn't have a window where she can see outside anymore.

But she hit the roommate and her roommate is coolest book. She loved it. She got moved last night.

She got moved last night. Good. So that's what what's red zone mean.

Or when was on lockdown I mean? Oh, why what happened? Oh, I don't know. There's like a fire truck here last night. Like I have no idea what happened. Oh, so tell me about your roommate. She's a new name. She's a TV. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. She's a crazy. Oh my god. Oh, I can finally find some normal things. Boba message me. Oh my god. Oh, my god. Oh, no.

How about your friend group, Kenzie?

Boba, yeah, Boba, I don't want to tell you what shit. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Good. Did you? Did you? Did you respond to her? Jayda, yes. She says she's at you two when you haven't responded yet. So can you just send her one? Yeah, well, don't put it in. Just make sure.

Yeah, Boba said like the final my boys are mad as well. What? Like he's saying I know the boys are mad as fuck up there. Oh, where would you have gloves?

What are you talking about? Oh, me getting sentenced. Oh, his friend are mad about that. Is that what you think? What? Who's that? The boys like Don and Davian? Oh, yes. Yes. No. So did you have breakfast? I don't need breakfast. I literally just got up. We're out to 11 and shit. - See? - Wow. What does your roommate look like? - She needs a weezy.

Basically, he needs a weezy.

He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy.

She needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. - Oh, wow.

- She needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy.

He needs a weezy. He needs a weezy. - Oh. - So.

- Trauma read what Baba said.

Because it just keeps like fucking deleting me.

It said, "Yo, Kenzie, it's Baba. What's Papa and family? We're gonna get through this chest. Me, you got me and Rosie. We got you.

We done put this mobile book. It's a different like a puzzle. You feel me. We're gonna get you straight. I promise my boys up there.

Matt is full. Matt is full right now. People. I know they are. And it's funny as fuck.

The more I go through life, that meat. The more I see me and Rosie shaping into you and down. - Oh. - It's crazy. We're gonna live on with them.

I'm trying to shape my image into David and down. They're gonna live on. I promise that. - Yeah. - Yeah.

But I keep trying to reply and keep fucking deleting me.

Oh, and it's a 20 second of August.

- Oh. - So it's a special day. - Yeah. - But yes, I'm so happy I got moved. I got moved.

Oh my god, me too. Because when I last night, there's like, I left fire truck and I'm on my window. And I just had the girl in the room next to me. She's like, she's like, hmm, there's a fire.

And I'm like, oh my goodness, shut up. I'm back and I'm like, shut up. Like, girl, like, if there was a fire, they would probably wouldn't evacuate us. But I just told her that.

I was like, I would hope they would. They probably would. I was scared that's my little bit. Yeah. I was like, no smoke a little tiny day.

But I don't know if I was like tweaking and making myself smoke. I wonder if there was a fire. Maybe there was a fire in the kitchen. I'm irritated to smoke. I actually tried to send this message in.

It's like, deleting it. Oh, do all the video things work on here. Oh, okay. So I don't need to worry about video calls anymore. Oh my god.

Yeah. So, okay, so where are you on the phone now? In the room or out? Oh, I don't have my iPad yet. No, so you're out like with the rest of the people.

Yeah, in the time. Tell me why I got on the pot. And they're like, I've seen you on the new. That's embarrassing as fuck, and they was laughing at me. Why did they say?

Right? Why were they laughing? I don't know. So I've been just seeing me on the new. And they was laughing at me.

Wild. Yeah, and more. But I miss a baby. She wrote me this letter and it was so sad. And she was like, in the, something that I,

I like, it took this accident to make me realize, like, she, baby, the one girl that like, Belinda. I don't know who it is. The one girl that knows Ms. Cynthia. That was in GB2.

Oh, I thought it was a motherlander with an M. No, B. Oh, so she wrote you? Yes, she wrote me a little letter and she was like, if people smile and ask you, is she just said something about like,

if people smile and ask you, don't mean they're on your side, or something like that after read it to you. Oh. And it took me like a long time to realize that. You realize what?

Cause like Mr. So it's smile in my face and like clearly she has like a little attention. I'm sorry, Kirby.

You're more than smile.

Good hand.

What do you say? Did you make that remember to page? Why is it cool?

Doing this shit. I'm irritated. Because who was talking? What do you mean? What's that voice in the background? She asked me that reason.

What do you mean? She said that me the feed on the reason I knew it's like the feed on the feed on the feed on the feed on the feed. Oh that's cool.

She's cute. She's always a spizzle.

She's at least like he's here. Good. Good. She's gonna like you too. Not to 11, so I have like more time on the phone than shit. Why does it work?

Why does it work? Why do I have cut? So you have to just deal. So let's I got to work at eight. Okay.

And then we have our video call at 145. So we'll kind of break up our day like that. And then you tell me what you would rather do a video call or a phone call. Well, no, I mean during the day. No, I want to keep that video call.

Yeah, I'm just going to keep it like that because I want to see you. And then I see, we'll talk in the morning. I'll see your face in the middle. And it just can't let me out again. Yes, it's annoying.

That's annoying. Were you up with Daddy with your school? Do I know? Why don't you make me up? Why?

I don't want to carry it because she always makes me up.

Okay. Um, um. Oh, my gosh, so that had been like super exciting for you to say. He can't do it. Let's go.

What do you think? That had to be exciting. Yeah. I had such a bad headache last night. Like, I thought I'll go to like throw up.

That's how bad my head hurt. Yeah. And the in the one staff comes up. And she's like, shiver less. You're getting moved.

I'm like. Hey, God. Look. Thank God. Had it goes away.

It's feeling great. What do you say? You're headache went away. Started feeling great. You still have headache?

No. Good. That's probably just from the tension yesterday. Oh, my God. Why the fuck is it keep doing this shit?

I gotta tell you something but I can't tell you on the phone. Well, then why don't you just tell me? Because it's incredible. I mean, you're going to find a way to tell you. Or a lot.

It has to do with your angel number. Okay.

Why can't you tell me something really cool happened?

Something really cool happened yesterday. Why can't you tell me? I can tell you without telling you. Okay. We went to the talk to somebody yesterday.

Kind of about everything going on. Okay. And they're just what their room number was. 22. 22.

22. Oh. Can you believe it? That's so sad. It's incredible.

I got chills all over my body. The hair standing up on my head. Oh my God. Why does it keep doing my message? I don't want to answer Bobo though.

I know, but you can go back. Maybe you got to burp the system. Go to a different message. And then go back to Bobo. I know.

I'm like, yes, it was kind of rough. But you was in a room all day, Sunday. Oh, and what's it? I'm glad you can. Next up.

That's good news. I just want you to know. I love you. I'm thinking about you. We're all thinking about you today.

Thank you. I love you. I love you. You too. Heart.

I can't believe that the set. Believe what happened. Did you get that paper? What? Well, like, we know how you gave me that letter.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got all kinds of stuff. Yep.

Okay. Yes. It's just doing it on this one. So I'm about to just try to message on another one. And when I get off the phone with you.

I'm going to call you. Yeah. I have a feeling. Okay. So this is frustrating.

Yeah. I have to feel like. Because what are people seeing on the news? It's divided. It's divided.

Really? A lot of people. Yeah.

A lot of people think you should have gotten.

You know, life with the trolls, the internet trolls and the evil people. Right. I think you should.

The, you know, basically, all of your life forever, forever, forever, forever.

Then there's people saying, I'm just sorry.

I'm not okay with that.

It's just. It's weird. And it doesn't add up. And I'm not okay with somebody for life. It says blah, blah, blah.

Then there's other people saying, you know, I know with the family. I know who she is. You guys are wrong. You can't say things. You know what I mean?

You can't say things like that. Oh, my god. I guess what my dream was last night. I just, sorry. I was like, remember.

How did you even, like, I had, like, so it's been a danger. Like, I was like peeling off, like, giant, as chunks. But, like, it was ripping my hair out with it. Like, the chunks. No.

I was like having, I had a huge bowl on my head. I was, like, I had to, like, add to what my dream was. That's scary. So, are people reaching out to you or anything? Yeah.

I got messages from strangers. And there's this one who posted this whole big one saying total stranger. She said I've been following this case. I just want you to know that I love you. And I forget, you know, I forgive you, the candy.

I do not think that you should be in jail.

I mean, it's so, so long. Let me, I don't know if I can. I was in a mess because it's so long. She says, I'm open here, me, okay? Yeah.

My open letter to the candy. First of all, let me say what you did. It's not okay. But you know, you know, something people make mistakes. We all made mistakes.

The Bible teaches forgiveness. I forgave you the candy. The judge should have let you go. It was just the car accident. And some car accident has happened.

I wish you the best of luck. I know how you feel. I'm so sorry the judge gave you 15 years. I will pray for you. And I hope that your life will get better.

God bless you. The candy should relive. The Bible also teaches us to love the sinner not to sin. I love you. The candy should relive.

You suffered enough. I want you to stop suffering. Jesus Christ.

I will always be there for you.

It's just that society doesn't understand that mental health is a genetic disease, mental health not a crime. Your parents should have made sure you got counseling from a very good house when you were younger. I'm dead. But I don't know.

What do they think will ruin me? Well, they, remember they think you did a purpose. Remember? Because I don't know. You have one answer.

I spoke.

So I also want to say life is already tough as it is.

So for all you people on social media attacking her police staff. It's not going to make it better just as the pain. Just leave her alone. She has suffered enough. Well, I'm going to hang up and call you on another one right now.

Hold on. Okay. I love you, bye. Oh, love you, bye. Okay.

So I'm curious to know what you thought about all those calls. Again, I just think it's so silly that what her mom seems to be prioritized with is like being in the group chat. Work in the Instagram account. What are people saying?

What living in the conversation? Living McKenzie a pass when McKenzie is talking crap about people and being a bitch. And kind of soaking it up almost like she's one of the parents. I believe wholeheartedly who wants to be McKenzie's friend more than McKenzie's parent. And look, I don't know.

Maybe she was an outcast in school. And like maybe she had no friends. And so maybe she sees her daughter as the popular girl. The cool girl. And she wants to fit in with her daughter.

And that way, because she never had that growing up.

Possibly who the heck knows. But I think we can all agree that there was a very huge lack of actual parenting in this dynamic and relationship. And that leads me into everything with her dad. I mentioned this a little bit earlier in the episode that there's text messages circulating.

Several text messages. As a matter of fact, from different days, warm McKenzie is asking her dad. Bring me warm milk. Can I have warm milk? And that they're all in the late hours.

Between, I think, the earliest was around 11 30 p.m. with some around 3 a.m. So people are like, first of all, what's 17, 18 year old is asking their dad for warm milk? Who drinks warm milk? Who would be asking forward in the middle of the night? She could get it herself like all of these things.

So let me start kind of at the beginning. I understand why it is very easy to jump to conclusions and think that that is code, especially given this state of the world right now. We live in a very sick ass world where there is a lot of incest. There is a lot of disgusting things that happen behind closed doors.

And 1,000% I can see where people would make that assumption.

I, here's what I know, okay?

I know that warm milk is a very popular thing. Usually, yes, when you're younger, but to fall asleep, it helps you fall asleep. My mom actually used to give it to me when I was younger. I don't drink warm milk anymore. Let me just clarify that.

I do drink regular milk sometimes. I'm like a cookie in milk monster sometimes, but that's besides the point. But it is asleep aid or it's a natural way to help you fall asleep.

Now, do I think this 17-year-old 18-year-old girl needed that to fall asleep?

It seemed like she had plenty of medications and natural remedies at her disposal to help her sleep. Whether that be weed, drugs, other than who knows, alcohol, whatever. But I don't believe, and I could totally be wrong. I don't believe that this was code for them sleeping together.

I could be wrong.

Maybe I'll be eating my words in a few weeks, who knows.

I do think that it's possible that it was code for something else. Maybe blunt, maybe something else, because it also has heavily been insinuated. And I'm just going to clarify. This is speculation, not proof. But that Dom, we know that Dom allegedly was dealing in a facilitator of weed and things like that.

It's been alleged that he was also Steve Scherilla, Mackenzie Swathers' plug,

and that that's how Steve would get weed.

And that that's why he didn't really care that she was hanging out with Dom or that she was smoking, and that it was kind of like all in the family in that regard. So, could it have been code for blunt or for weed? Could it have been code for something? Possibly.

I don't, it is hard for me to understand why she would just be asking for warm milk in the middle of the night so many times.

And again, unless like, she, it's truly like, this is a big facade and she acts tough and she's really not. I mean, we know that she stole the primary bedroom from her parents. We know that she moved out before she was even 18. We know that she didn't have any rules dressed like a little, who she had no repercussions ever, that even when she was a mean girl at school and got caught for that her dad believed her through and through and was like,

all I need to do to say was that you didn't do it, and I sided with my daughter, which it's like, that kind of blind loyalty when your parent doesn't really fly. You have to actually investigate the situation and make sure you're raising a good human. So, my point is, I, sorry, I saw you tracked a little bit. So, also people are saying when she would order her drinks, she did it as dairy-free.

Now, I don't know, I don't drink Starbucks. I don't drink coffee much. I don't know what it means when you get oat milk, almond milk versus cow milk. All of that. It could maybe she did dairy-free because she had a dairy allergy.

And that, and maybe it was a different kind of milk. And maybe she's not going to say it or her dad, bring me up warm almond milk. She's just going to say warm milk and hello. I don't really know.

I think it's, I think there's so much hatred for McKenzie right now, rightfully so,

that I think people are grasping at straws a little bit and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. And, and they hate her parents as well. So, like, they're happy to drag them under the bus with them. Which, look, maybe I'm wrong. And maybe you're listening to this and you're like, Annie, you are a complete effing moron.

Obviously, there was something sinister going on between the two of them. Maybe you're right. But from what I have seen in true incest cases, whether it's consensual or non-consensual, I just have a feeling that is not what this is and that people are reading a little too far into it. But that's not to say that it can't be code for something else that there still was not a horrific dynamic

between the two of them in regards to parenting and responsibility. And, again, raising her properly, but that's kind of where I'm at with that. So, if anything changes in my opinion, I will let you know even though, like I said, I plan this to be the final episode on McKenzie that we do, but that's where I'm at. And I've seen so many people tag me and send me, like, the screenshots, the TikToks being like,

"Have you seen this? What do you think about this? I had a couple people come up to me at crime cont too. Like, have you heard about this? I felt like I wanted to at least address it, so that you know where I stand on the issue." Like, I'm not bearing my head under the sand. I know about it. I've heard about it. I read the text messages over a year ago, as a matter of fact,

and I just don't think that that's what it means.

But again, I could be wrong. So anyway, let me know what you think about the calls with mom. Let's say this is, you know, a final stamp, Chitching, were done with the McKenzie Scherilla case with the little asterisk to caveat, unless something new comes up, or unless you guys are requesting something.

So, thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for listening. I will be back on Monday with an all new deep dive into a case for you, and it is a freaking crazy ass case. Went down the rabbit hole on this one too.

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