"Amanda Peet"

- Hey everybody, oh my goodness, are we

in a good mood today? - We are.

“- I mean, you were shot out of a cannon.”

- I was not out of the cannon. - Yeah. - All fired up, we get to do some potting today. - Yeah. - And I'm so excited you two are here for this.

You're gonna have such a hood. What we do is that little foam thing you in front of your mouth. You just speak into that. We're gonna have somebody of interest coming on soon.

- And you're gonna be able to ask any questions - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - And they should respond in someone of his way. - Nobody's left.

Nobody's gonna listen to me. - You think they've turned the dial? Well, then let's hurry up and get the guest out here. Come on, welcome. - Let's start.

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- Smart, smart, smart, smart.

(upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Wait, what is that, what is that from? - Well, hi. - Hi.

- Hi. - That's my plan. That's like a new smart list. (upbeat music) - Oh my God.

- Isn't that a, isn't that done that you've done in support? It supports things. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - Are you doing an ad for all American guy? You just took a big gulp of milk and now you took a bite of an apple. - Yeah, I just got bad.

- What happened? You ran out of poptarts? (laughing) - No, I didn't hit the horn again. There you go.

(laughing) - Hey, did Archie give you that app or something? - Is that next to the fart one? - No, man. I've had it for a long time, embarrassingly enough.

- Did I tell you somebody gave me a box and popped out outside the stage door? - Did they really? - Yeah. - Was it greatest to get?

- It was like, look, look, look, look. (laughing) (laughing) - There's a bowl around it. There's a bowl.

And I thought that was the nicest gift ever. - And, you got security tackle them? - No, remember when we went on tour and that somebody handed me a sandwich and I ate it. And Jason was like, - I kind of did.

- I remember that we got in the car. You're like, why would you ever eat a sandwich from somebody off the street?

“- You can try to get me to remember the time”

that you ate a sandwich? (laughing) - No, no. - No. - No.

- I just kind of heights niche. - If it's not, if it's dragged across, if it needs a little punch. - No, no. - By the way, it should be noted.

- I texted JB, I'm going to embarrass him. The boys and I are tape and I watched over a step as out of detail. - Okay, Lewis, he's so kind of good. - Wait, let's do it.

Let's do it. - It's so good. - Listen, this thing is sip, go ahead, Sean. - I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I almost, J,

it's like one of those incredible, powerful performances.

- Yeah, let me go. - That I felt like when I saw Willi do his movie, too, where I'm looking at you right now. I've known you for 75,000 years. And I don't, I don't know who you are.

Like it was so unbelievably, a different person that I did not believe I was watching. - Sean, you finished it last night. - I finished it last night. - I finished it last night.

“- How do you have all the, how do you have them all?”

- I gave them a mind. - Right, we, we finished, we finished the first episode. And I turned to the boys and I said, I literally looked at my go. How many episodes away are we from Jason getting pegged?

(laughing) - Okay, I mean, pretty close. - I could go on and I know, I was in tears at the end because I was so proud of my friend Jason. - I thought it was really good.

- Everybody's great. - Lynn, Linda Cartelini is amazing. David Harbor, really great. - David Harbor is great. - So everybody's great.

- I'm not comparing it, David, but Jason, you were so good in this part. - Honestly, I appreciate it. - And it's so, I mean, what were you? - And it's not surprising, it should be noted, too,

because you know, when people go, you were really good. (laughing) - Always hurt. - But I texted Jason yesterday last night

about like, what a huge swing it was to do this. I mean, will wait until you see. - I don't say it in other words. - I don't know why the new one came out last night

and I couldn't watch last night. So, right, I mean, I couldn't watch this. - This guy's Steve Conrad, this writer, director, will only be the subject. - Sorry, listener, but this guy's Steve Conrad,

this writer, director, he's just so creative and daring and like, without being obnoxiously like, oh, look how Alvon Garden and, you know, it's like, it's so... - It serves the characters and the sort of relatable that it makes it absolutely almost impossible to watch

- And so much so I woke up today,

“I started doing just regular whatever tasks,”

thinking about D.T.F. St. Louis and these characters. And I'm like, were you sitting on Scottie's face? (laughing) - Those are his regular tasks. - Wait a sec, wait a sec.

(laughing) - Wait a minute. - That's a little different, sorry. - Yeah, that's a little precursor, what happened? - Oh, sure, sure. - Good anyway.

- You're very nice, thank you, man. Willie, it's nice to have you back in the States. You made this, is there any issues at the border or was it pretty smooth? - Still good.

- Still good. - Still good, yeah. - Okay. - All right. - I mean, good standing.

- Your bronzer still, you haven't run out of that. - Oh, no, it's good to see. - You're a little streaky friend of yours that I can't get but I can't see.

And my favorite thing is that my feet are always a mess

when I get spread out as much. (laughing) - I used to go to that thing all the time. Did you used to go to those things? - Remember going in the boxes?

- I've never done it. - No, I've literally never done it. - Do you know that upset a rest of development when David Cross had to blow himself or blew it? He says, I just blew myself.

He had to put on his own blue man makeup. (laughing) - I just read this morning, David's got a brand new comedy special. His ninth one is self-releasing on his website

and on YouTube, I forget the date, but it's probably on now. - David Cross, go see it. - That's a good one. - Yeah, I like it.

- Click it. - I like it. - I love D. - D Cross. - One time really quick.

I went into this.

“- I see, remember he used to start just over.”

When D.C especially for us here, we do something in David to go like, that's so late. Like we just got Jason, I was just, would describe something we did to go.

That's pretty lame and we'd go pre-go. - Oh, sorry, street cred. - Oh yeah. (laughing) - We started calling a street cred

with she actually ended up liking me to be the wife. - Hey, street cred, coming up? - Bella. - Yeah, anyway. - Got to love 'em.

- Sally? - Yeah, I thought you were gonna say something shunning. - No, no. - It was up to, that stuff went too far away. It's about this tanning thing.

- Bring it back. - Bring it back. - Because I used to, I was so white. I would have to have an event to go to or something. My makeup lady from Will and Grace,

she would come over and cake on tanning stuff on my face. - But she was my daddy. - Yeah, Patty Bunch. - Yeah. - Yeah, she's the best.

And she forgot to do my hands. - Oh. - So, and I won a sag award.

“And so you know you do the line, the photos.”

I'm holding up the sag award. And my hands are as white as snow. And my face is as orange as the sun. - That's up there with sometimes in a particularly unemployed summer,

I will play a bunch of golf and the tan difference, I'll see it now, between the glove hand and the non glove hand. - Yeah, that's funny. - It's very ugly.

- All right, great. Super hashtag relatable.

- Yeah, I'm the first world problem of,

extreme, just last 50,000 listeners. - Today, we have one of my favorite actors. She always has been. I've had the great fortune of working with her a couple of times. And it is as good in person as it is on film.

She is not only an actor, but also a producer and a writer, but not just any writer, this is a playwright. And recently a columnist, which we will talk about, it's very exciting.

After more than 25 years of doing great work, it's even greater right now. She's got a new season of her hit show on Apple starting this spring. She's got a brand new film being released.

Has a very fancy publication of her essay dropping and has successfully gotten through yet another year of marriage to a real ding-dong. She's a unicorn, folks. And here she is.

Please welcome my longtime nearest and dearest friend, Ms. Amanda Pete. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - Why do we have stuff to talk about?

- Oh my god. - Hi, Johnny. - Hi, honey, how are you? - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - You got a bike made up of everything.

- You guys, I did almost like 25, 15. - And I love your share of my life, but it is proud to us. - Get you with a microphone, look at you. - Oh, shit, I put that down. - No, it's not, it's not.

- No, it's not. - No, it's not. - Oh, you guys all have yours. - You're not doing video, it's not. - I'm just, that's the one we sent you.

- I've just never seen you in this environment.

- So it's all me know to me, it's so great to see you. - I know, she was like, see you in summer time. - She said, she said, can I look like a slob? I go, yeah, I'm in my PJs. I'm always in my PJs.

You know what I mean, according to your voice? - Yeah, he only travels in PJs. - Wow, you are really tan with it. - I know, I know, I get that a lot, as you know. - Smoking and sun, not good.

- I know, yeah. - Okay. - Wait, is it still happening well? We're still chipping? - It's still, it's still really annoying

that you're so good with addictions now, I guess. You've got, you've got it all handled. You can just chip away at the cigarettes

- Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty good.

I can't do a little of anything. I know. - Me neither, I can't do it. - I generally can't do it. - How are you?

I'm Anna, how are you with sugar? I'm really bad with sugar. - I mean, it's not great. - Yeah, what's the one thing? - I need it out.

- If you could, if you could go to an addicts, what's circle, meeting, whatever it's called, what would it, what would it be for, Amanda? - Oh. - What's the thing you want to kick?

- I can't say. - I think you can't really? - I'm just kidding, I'm kidding. - Why, we talking about porn here all the time. (laughing)

- That is something I don't have a problem with. - Yeah, no, what is it? - I'm addicted to exercise. - Really? - No, for real.

- I'm hitting. - Oh, can I, can I? - Can I? - Right, right. - Did you even know me at all?

- Sean, it would be sugar for you. - Oh my God, I can't, I cannot go a day without eating tons of sugar. - Have you tried to just get it out of the house, like you tried the thing where it says,

proximity to it? - Well, and then like, I eat an apple, like work. - Okay, well, that has sugar, but the good kind, but then I'll have a Snickers. (laughing)

- It's just a full-grown Snickers. - Do you know what I had other Snickers since Halloween when I was 14? (laughing) - But you know what I texted these guys the other night,

I came home after doing two shows, and I had a plate of spaghetti and a donut. - On the same plate. - On the same plate. - On the same plate.

- Do you think you're burning enough adrenaline? - That's what I'm saying. - Two shows, like it just probably just-- - Oh, one man shows. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

- But he's saying it. - You burn that. - He sent the photo of the pot of the spaghetti bolognese, and then a chocolate donut with a bite out of it. So then I faced him just 'cause I wanted kind of verification.

'Cause I thought that he'd set it for the photo to for effect. And sure enough, donut is on the plate. He's eating the both simultaneously. - Yeah. (laughing)

- Really? - I don't want to chase her. - I often think how when, you know, I have an 11-year-old, I often think of how one of the great, great pleasures of being an adult, a grown-up, is that you can eat your dessert

before you're meal. - Sure, yeah. - And it's no rules. - Well, actually, if you remember I said Sean,

“I said to you, are you, are you at an 11-year-old's birthday party?”

- Yeah. - And I said I stopped by on the way home from work. - Yeah. Amanda Pete. - Southy.

- South. Oh my God, Amanda, I worked with Amanda.

Amanda and I worked together first.

Almost 30 years ago, we did a film call. I know, sorry. Sorry to say that in no words. (laughing) - Let's go, let's go about it.

- Here you go. - Do you guys, do you guys, both still have your, your, your, your, your, your bluston cards? - That's, that's an accent. - They almost took our set cards away.

They came on set. - What did you work on together? - Southy. - It's called Southy. - It was a film, South.

- It was a film, South, Boston. - Oh, I didn't know that. - How are you, good to see you, good, good for you, Amanda? - Hey Pete, you're doing good, huh? - Wait a minute, did you do the accent too?

- You'll have it? - I think I might have. - Do it just a little bit, just do it five a minute.

“- Honestly, I can't even, if I can remember,”

'cause I was in five thousand. - They gonna kick out of the condo. They're gonna kick me out of the condo soon. (laughing) That was terrible.

- Wow. - Yeah, that was a fun. - Condo is good though, condo, condo, condo, condo, condo. - Still rolling, wow, still rolling. - And dried by John Shay.

- And Mira, who we were going to share with you. - By the way, Sean, I was saying, I was about to do a play after Southy, and I was telling her about how I have terrible stage fright, and I was trying to just chat with her about it,

and she had, you know, she was the chain smoker, and she just said, "As soon as you wanna be good, you did." - Wow, that's a good quote. - Isn't that deep? - Yeah, she was cool.

She was, she was no nonsense, she was cool. That's kind of cool, as soon as you want to be good, yeah. - Wait, wait, tell me about the stage fright. I guess I have that, I guess we all have that. - Yeah, I think you're out, how to not flip out

at an early stage, is it where you get on with it? - You know what I do?

My little trick I've always done for a long time,

especially when you're going to do something kind of live, or whatever, and like, I gotta get out there, and I just go, I am where I am, and literally use it, this is energy, okay, and I just, so don't try to get over it, do it well.

- That's incredibly annoying. - Yeah, just flip it, just flip it, and flip it and forget it. - Just flip it and forget it. - No, I don't have those kinds of nerves.

“- I think that's a good impression of me.”

- Now, how's it always been like that? Here we go, let's go back to the beginning, Amanda. - What do you want to do? - We want to do it. - Yeah, you were a kid. Was it always gonna be this?

Like, did you have a plan for this? Or did you just kind of wing it?

or was it like, no, let's set the ores in this direction

and start rowing? - I think both parents-- - That's good, that's enough. - Thank you. - That's good.

- And we'll go to Amber's break. (laughing) - No, both parents are off crowd. - Both parents were, as far from the entertainment business as you could possibly be.

- What kind of, - Corporate lawyer, Yale undergrad, Harvard Law School, my mom was a social worker psychotherapist, and I feel like they saw acting. In the beginning, similarly to just,

oh, so you wanna start modeling. - You wanna join the circus? - Sure, you wanna be a hooker. - Right. (laughing)

- And sex worker.

- So, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Sex worker. - Did you work to sort of convince them that that wasn't the way you were seeing it and what your intentions were, or did you just kind of like hide your pursuit?

“- Yes, I think I was constantly trying to make it a peer,”

less frivolous. - Right. - And, yeah. - But, interestingly, apropos of what we were just saying,

I think, because I had terrible stage fright, it was much easier for me to book things like, a chapstick commercial or days of our lives. Like, as soon as I was lucky enough to get an audition for something,

like a Clifford Odette's player, which made me like that, I was like this. - You just shaking.

- And I couldn't, I couldn't do what I was doing in class,

you know, in real life. - So, literally, stage was like that, that was your kryptonite, but being in front of camera was less... - No, sorry, I didn't explain that right.

So, anything high brow, I was like terrified. - Oh, got you. - So, and then anything that was considered more low brow, I could kill it. And so, then I was undoing what I wanted

to portray to my parents. - Yeah, right. - 'Cause I'd be like, well, I'm on a skittles commercial and maybe like, I rest my case.

- Right, right, right, right, right. How about that, that's actually that's a good strategy to overcome, you know, like don't overvalue something. Maybe like find something about whatever you're gonna be doing that's giving you the nerves that sort of undercuts it.

- Well, yeah, I mean, not to get to like deep about it, but both my kids were, you know, given offers to go play and then... - You know, you have three. - Oh, sorry, the two that are home and play soccer.

- Yeah. - At different times, and we're soccer players, we're offered to play in a higher soccer team and we're like, no. - Oh, why?

- 'Cause they were too nervous. - Oh, it's really, so it's catching up. - So it gave them my fucking anxiety. It does ding-dong David come along with some really helpful fathering advice

to these young, nervous, you know, anxiety riddled kids. - Yes, you feel like he doesn't help. - No. - No. - It's a good help.

- We do love David. - We do love David. - Just because he's not in front of the camera for my sister Tracy David created Game of Thrones. Your husband.

- Yeah. - Well, your sisters with, sorry, I don't understand the conceit. - My good sister. - Every once in a while, we have to remind the audience.

- Good, thank you, well, that's helpful.

“But wait, I'mando, did you, when you were growing up?”

- Oh, okay. - No, you know what I go. - I guess you're so polite to try to. - Wait, I'mando, when you grew up with a mom in that field, did you, did she kind of try to psychoanalyze?

You all the time, like, did you, did you have something to talk to was a therapy constantly in the house? You know what I mean? - Okay, to be honest, I was, yeah, I was very, very close with her, and very, very similar, and was sent to the therapist

right when I came out of her vagina. - Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. - Infant, I was like, talk therapy, let's go. - Yeah, yeah, you came out with the car keys, you're like, ready to go.

- Did you ever feel like you were getting a free analysis from her or was it like, I can't really share with her my feelings because she's just gonna psychoanalyze me? - I think that it's a pleasure of my ears. - Okay, my sister would disagree for me, it was a plus.

I didn't feel like she was looking at me as like a test dummy for her psychological theories, and she was even in psychoanalytic training in the 90s, and I was in college. And I thought it was really intellectually interesting what she was talking about and really, really helpful.

“And I think because she felt like her mom was a clinical”

narcissist, she was hell bent on being a good listener

That's how I feel.

“I think my sister felt a little bit more like,”

there was this psychobabble or sedoxyane. - That's older sibling, that's older sibling. - Oh, yeah, my older sister. - Did you think about, did you think about, through that process, did you think, oh, maybe this is an

area that I want to go into? Did you consider doing that yourself? - Well, I was thinking acting is a little bit of that area. Sorry, that question was from Amanda. Sorry.

- No, Sean, go, I-- - No, no, that's good. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I mean, I think when I look back, I was in-- this is very unusual.

I was in psychoanalysis at age 13. So I went to the shrink four days a week.

- Wow. - Talk about, you know, first world problems.

And I think the idea of psychoanalysis that there are these inciting incidents that set you on a path on a trajectory. And that's storytelling, basically creating a narrative, - Yes.

- I mean, dold school shrinks which are not creating it.

“But I think it's very similar to storytelling in every way.”

And then we create, and then that create that narrative and those sort of neural pathways get deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper those grooves. And if your, the danger is that if you don't do that, I'm not advocating either way or whatever,

I don't have really a position, but that if you, that those things get so deep that that becomes your story and trench in your mind about who you are, I am this, this is the way and you can, that can often lead to, I think as you get older, you know,

I know I speak for myself, the story that I've been telling

myself about who I am for the longest time is become this thing that I've, I'm like now at this age almost 56 and going like, wait, I gotta look at that, 'cause I've had this narrative and I'm not a reliable narrator on this and, you know,

- Truly. - Nor as any 13 year old, by the way. And so it's blamed, there's a lot of blame, right? When that idea that there is an inciting incident that something happened to you, it takes away

what it doesn't count is style of thinking. How you, you know, it's nature and nurture, how were you born? You, I was born with a much more anxious mindset than my sister.

“And I think the idea that in your childhood,”

this A, B, and C happened, it can involve a lot of blame. And so I think it's maybe for some people hard to take accountability. I don't know if that's sort of what you're saying will. Like, you're sort of like--

- Yeah, I think so.

I just think that we all have, first of all,

we, everybody has their own sort of chemical makeup. And so you can have two people, like you were saying, you and your sister, you can have two people who grew up in the same environment, but with the same parents at the same thing.

And they're completely different. We see it in our own kids, I certainly see it in mine, and they react differently to stuff. And then, and this true in my experience that I've grown up in, and I do things differently.

And I'm only now at this age, started to go like, wait a second, all the stuff that I thought, like, I didn't do that early on. I didn't go to psychoanalysis when I was young. - Thank God.

- Well, maybe. But also now, now I've got to sort of retroactively, like a much more actively, really searching to try to unlock a lot of the stuff that made me who I am today. Good and bad in trying to understand it a little bit.

And go like, why do I do that? Why do I make the same mistakes? Why do I do this stuff? - Good man. - Yeah, it's better to be self-aware enough

to want to figure it out than just float along. - Right, and maybe you just wouldn't have had the emotional intelligence that you have now to really do a lot of deep and honest analysis and introspection.

- No, so it's, you know, good time out. - Maybe when you're ready. - Yeah. - We'll be right back. - And now, back to the show.

- Well, Amanda, speaking on keeping it, keeping it deep and heavy now. - Oh, shit, sorry. - Yeah, no, what about-- - She's a laugh riot.

- What about what you're doing? What about when you're playing parts and stuff like that? Are you enjoying and exploring and utilizing all the different parts of you and injecting them into these characters?

- Are you focusing and enacting right now? - Or do you like playing completely different people? - Oh, I'll do anything, I like both. - Right, but I mean, what is, what's like your strategy, like are you, do you think about,

how do I create an entirely different person? Or, okay, I recognize a part of myself in this character

and we'll just call her whatever this character's called.

- Well, I mostly give in parts right now at this moment that are more probably more like me. And yes, sometimes when, right before I do a take, if I catch myself thinking about how to be good, - Right, right. - If I think, like I'm trying,

- Is that similar to, is that similar to, try to be good or thinking about how to play it? - Yes, like orchestrating anything. - Orchestrating a result. - Yes. - Right.

- I try to pretend that David or Sarah Palson are there at the video village, and that, and that they'll call bullshit.

“- Right. - So I say, okay, now you have to do one”

where they have to, there gonna be guests, whether it's real or not real, that's really, you are not really useful. And that's the strategy for this moment. - Yeah, because a lot of actors work so hard to let you know they're not acting, that it looks like acting.

- Oh, you're right, yeah. Whereas if you focus on just performing for one microscopic lens that for some people, it's themselves, for me, it's that case. I know I'm gonna watch my performance here,

and I'm not gonna be able to get away with anything. I'm not going to give myself any sort of relief like it's got to be super, you know, like, I'm watching. For you, that microscope is David and Sarah. - It's never Amanda.

- Huh?

- It's never my best friend Amanda.

- No, I can trick Amanda, I can trick her. - Stop. - I can't, no, I can't. - That's the other end, sorry, just to be clear, the other Amanda.

- Oh, Sarah, I'm sorry. - I'm very close with Judy's wife. - Yeah. - You mean, we've talked to each other, Amanda. - No, Amanda and Jason were in what movie together.

- There were two. - Right, was it just two or was it more? - Oh, God, I'm like, I forgot about that. - I forgot about it, I forgot about it. - I mean, she came out of the gate with selfie,

and she forgot about your shit. - Yeah, thank you. - Which one did you forget about? - Which one did you personally prefer? - I forgot about the,

I forgot about the wheelchair one. - Do you don't remember the title? (laughing) - I know that one. (laughing)

- Well, wait, I remember that one too. - Yeah, but what was it originally? - When Armistice's in that too, right? Is that the one in Charles Groudin? - I couldn't act with him because he was too funny.

- It was released as the X. But what was it called originally?

“I think it had a better name or anything.”

- What was it? - Yeah, Jesse Perez? - Yeah. - Jesse Perez. - Look at me.

- I know that, I know. - Well, Amy was in it, right? - Amy was in it, yeah. - Sean, you didn't see it? - I'm sorry, it's on my cue, thank you.

- I played an asshole in a wheelchair, when Amanda and I play. - We go away from that. - We play, we play X, boyfriend, girlfriend, or kind of I wanted you to be my girlfriend back in the day,

but now we meet up later in life, and we were on cheer team together. - When I wanted you to be my girlfriend. - I got shot last. - Yeah.

- There's a moment in the film where I'm in my wheelchair, and we see each other. And I go, hey, and I say, hey, remember the move, and I lift you up over my head with one arm as a seat. You're sitting on my hand, up over my head,

as I'm sitting in the chair.

“- Did we, we did that for real, didn't we?”

Or were you on cables? - I feel like we didn't. - Done it for real? - Cables, why? - 'Cause your hand, your arms, I mean,

I've seen your nearly atrophied arms. I don't think they're really, that it. Yeah, I couldn't do that with my children,

but I feel like we know we were first over and over again,

and you did that for real, didn't we? - Yeah, we did. - You mean there were in a couple of grips wearing green suits holding her. Nowadays, they have to.

- Yes. - Oh. (laughing) - But it was that great. - That was very fun.

Yeah, Charles Groden, he was, I love Charles Groen. And then we did Identity Thief. - Yes, remember that one? - I sure do. - I didn't even do you sure.

- Did I think I remember about that? The most is Amanda breastfeeding mapes in the hotel. - Yes, yeah. - But there are mapes. - Jason's a man and a guy.

Again, there's a lot about your acting. That's what she remembers. - Yeah, that's a great movie. - That was a great movie, I love that Identity Thief. - Yeah, that's great fun on that.

- Ms. McCarthy, crushing it. - All right, let's get back to the beginning. Let's just roll through this a little bit.

where there's so much time, bullshit. - Me neither, you grew up in New York City. You were born in New York, grew up in New York. - Mm-hmm. - Right, what do you call New York? - Where did you go?

- Where did you grow up in the city in Manhattan? - In Manhattan, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - 11th and 5th. - Oh, look at that.

- What is the most New York thing that is still a part of your everyday behavior? - The behavior. - Yeah.

“- What do you think you, because you lived in New York?”

- I'm working here. - Right, yeah. (laughing) - What would be the thing that that city gifted you in your persona?

- It's psychoanalysis, of course. - Yeah, yeah, everybody's looking inside over there. - Bagels? - Yeah, what do you, when you, when you leave New York City, what do you miss the most?

- Just the whole McGill Academy, the subway, the rubbing shoulders with other people. - Yeah. - Where are you right now? - That was by mistake, man.

(laughing) - Magic. - I'm in the bedroom. - I mean, are you in New York or in Los Angeles? - Oh, sorry, oh, sorry.

Jesus, I'm in Los Angeles. Yeah, I'm in Los Angeles now, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All right, so you're starting out. - JB, are we on a snack break?

- I'm sorry. (laughing) - That's the last bite. - I thought I moved the microphone far enough away. I was just happening.

- So you grew up in New York and you say your parents and your parents are a million miles from show biz and you go, hey, yeah. - I think I'm going to be an actor. - Now, were you doing any sort of like jobs before

you got started that maybe you could say, well, but this is kind of taken off for me and I won't have to be doing X anymore. - What? - No, I was doing school plays, I did all the school plays

and because I went to a tiny Quaker school, I was, you know, one of the best singers there which is saying nothing and it was a short order, not a tall order and then as soon as I got to college I started, I sort of walked in confidently

to all these auditions and I never got a single play.

I auditioned for 20 plays, yeah. - Oh, wow. - It was as if they had already decided they already had their own click. - Yeah, right, like no, no, these parts of reserve

for people who are good. - Oh, were you not studying so much? - Did you, had, but what did you do? - I took a teenage acting class that my mom found for me starting when I was 13, too,

as well as being in psychoanalysis. - No, but what about-- - Where was that? Where was that? Where was that, where was that? - At the school I was 13.

- That was, that was at HB Studio. So eventually my teacher-- - HB Studios, what's that? - Yeah, that's a lot of actors get the story. - So eventually my teacher said,

you know you really need to study with Uta Hagen and so my junior at college, I auditioned for Uta Hagen. - Now what about in college, did you, were you studying drama? - No, I was studying American history.

- Yeah. - So never went into the drama program

because I bet if I'd joined the drama program they might have felt obligated to put you in the movie. - There wasn't a drama program. What's happening, Sean? - That's Scotty.

- Oh, Scotty. - Scotty, he's just like you said. - He's just like you said. (laughing) - It doesn't mean you're just right in a step.

(laughing) - All right, so then you start auditioning. Well, okay, so college starts to beat you up a little bit and tax your coffee. - Meanwhile you're like, I'm not, I auditioned for 20 plays.

I'm not getting anything, this is for me.

“Like what's the, yeah, did you go out and get an agent?”

How did you start auditioning? - I really admitted it quite yet. I still think, and I had, it's almost like, you know what people say, like, you know, like a self-hating Jew or something like that.

I was like a self-hating actor. - Right. - I couldn't quite admit that I wanted to actually do this as more than a hobby and to visit the same for you, Sean. - Oh, no, I'm just, I'm wrapped.

- Oh, I thought you were like, yes, I relate to that. - Yeah, no, I'm just like, yeah. - Oh, no, Sean was a prodigy. - Yeah. - I don't know, I mean, a little bit, yeah, like,

well, you know, when you're young,

you never think you're good, you know,

like you're just like hanging on by a thread. - Wow. - I mean, yeah. - I didn't have a little more confidence than when I was young.

And then like, all the, all the real eyes, oh no, Jason, you're full of shit. - But you worked all the time. Like, I had this similar, I moved to New York and I didn't get anything for years.

Like, why the fuck did I keep doing it? - Yeah. - Nobody wanted to hire me. - But Amanda, you went out,

“but Amanda, at some point, you went out and got an agent, right?”

You started out with me. - Yeah, so then in one, so I was in Utah's class, all of the, I was in an adult class at age 18. And so people had headshots and agents and they, they taught me what's backstage magazine,

but also the Ross reports where you could look up

And I just started crossing them out

“and I would take the subway and go to make a day.”

- Make submission, right? - Yeah, and I would go in person with like full makeup. - Yeah, you had to wanted it, right? - And I did the same thing. - My headshot, under it.

- And maybe like, thank you. - We got it. Stop pushing it, stop pushing it. - Yeah, we don't take on solicited headshots.

- You know what, I've never, I've never told anybody

this story, this is absolutely true when I was like 23. And I had like a headshot, it was just terrible. And like nothing of fake resume. - Did you look worse than you look now? Can you put your hands through your hair, please?

- Sorry, fix it, it's awkward. - Off your forehead, there you go. - Thank you, headhead. - And I went up to 30 rock. This before the advent of like high security and stuff.

And I went to 30 rock. And I went, it might have been even 92. And I went in and I got on the elevator. And I went up and I put my resume on the desk at eight age. - As a now?

- As a now. - I know that. - I know everybody knows what fucking eight eight eight. - Yeah, wait, sorry. - To be a, what you do, you spoke about Studio 60.

- I asked you to do that.

“- And have they called, so you thought you were funny?”

- I don't know. - I mean, you're right, but I just, I didn't talk about confidence and unwarranted. - You want to be on SNL early? - I thought about it, but I had no,

I didn't do sketch or anything. Anyway, this interview is not about me, but I did go and do that same thing. I went and I put the thing on embarrassingly enough. - I just had this image of me sliding my,

just like you said Amanda sliding my headshot and resume underneath the door, waiting three seconds. And it just comes right back. (laughing) - With a bunch of piss on it.

(laughing) - No, just a big Sharpie on the outside of the envelope. - And you guys, not only that, but eventually, so I auditioned for agents, you know, like I did monologues in their offices,

and eventually I got wrapped and the teen rep walked me to the corner of 57th and 7th. With one of her colleagues and said, and she was saying congratulations, we want to wrap you and start giving me the lay of the land,

and then it was like, um, and the other thing, we just wanted to know, so for your, you have a little bit of, you got a mustache, a little bit here, we're just wondering, what can we do about that?

- Oh my God. (laughing) - Oh my God, she's right, she was right. - Really? - Oh my God.

- Wait a second, so how old did the name her,

but what agency? What agency was that? - It was STE at the time. - That's the game. - It came out cold, right.

- Right, right. - You were 18, 19. - And you had a little bit of a fuzz there,

“and I think it must have been more than a fuzz,”

'cause I've seen a fuzz. - Okay, what was the strategy on removal? Was it bleaching or last thing? - She's like, no, watch this, I'm gonna grow it out. - What?

- Take that. - Stand above that. - Did you? - No, I want an answer to that. Did we bleach it or did we wax it?

- We did everything, we did narrow, we did bleach, we did fucking, you fucking name, and I did it. - Yeah, well, yeah, and that's something. - I would pay so much money to see my face, and see myself try to handle that.

Like, and be like, oh yeah, yeah. - So I had an agent recommended nutritionist to me what's? - Yeah, and it was like, this was last week. - We got it.

(laughing) - That was about 18 months ago. (laughing) - The way the guys of it did a lot for me, and I was like, hey, I had a, I had a really big shot agent,

not too long ago, pitch to another person that I work with, say, hey, if it's ever appropriate, and you feel like you can kind of squeeze it into the conversation, gosh, Jason, if you'd ever consider highlights. - Please feel like, if you have highlights,

it would really open things up for sort of like real sexy, kind of leading man. And I was like, my mother fucker, are you serious? - Did you do that? - Studio, exact.

- No, no, agent, king, king agent. - And did you do it or no? - No, I did not, Shawnee. - Yeah, yeah.

- I have not colored my hair since the incredible,

Frank Stallone vehicle, Philly Boy, on CBS, in 1990. - You have so few grays too, you have so few grays. It's so, it's so, it's so, - I don't know, I do feel like they're coming. They're, they're, they're a few that are trying to fight their way.

Okay, so wait, now, so you get this note about the stash, you're addressing it, are you feeling like, yes, this is great, this is a good thing, or wait a second, is that what this business is gonna be? My feelings are hurt, I'm not getting a lot of stuff,

even though I just gotta knew where I should quit. Did you ever feel like quitting at any moment in your career?

I think, because the opportunities weren't

“with what you wanted, or was just like, oh, I'm good.”

I have nothing left to prove to myself,

I've had incredible success, and next.

- Sure, wasn't that, Jason. - No, I couldn't. - I didn't incredible success. - Well, I'm gonna go rest on my laurels. - I completed everything.

- Take another look. - Yeah, I think, well, you know, like, once I started writing a little bit, and when I was shooting the chair, which, you know, when I was behind the camera,

and all the ladies, like, Sandra O and everyone had to get their earlier, and I could roll in in my snow pants with my musta and my hair, and just but still be the boss. I was like, this is fucking great. What have I been doing this whole time?

- Right, and then, yeah, that's okay. So then, so then, the latter, and it's really fun to have, you know, to have last cut, final cut. - Right, well, let's talk about that.

Let's talk about how did the chair come into your orbit.

So, so, folks, she was the creator, the writer,

“the showrunner, with the Netflix series called The Chair,”

starring Sandra O, and so was this, how did it come to you, tell us about that? - Because I went to friends in Manhattan on 16th Street, and there was a teacher who was there when I was there, who was really lovely, and in the New York Times,

there was a huge mischievous because he was in a math class, and he was pointing to something, and he made a Nazi salute joke. - Who's he? - It was the teacher, and it became at friend seminary

at my Quaker School, this huge controversy. - Friends is a school. - Friends is a school, Manhattan, friends is a Quaker School. - Okay, and it was a joke that broke your love life's D.O.A. Yeah, you know, I can't believe they still go there,

all those six friends. (laughing) - Jen's gonna figure it out. Sorry, go ahead. - I like this idea of having a woman of color,

who was the boss of a white dude who transgresses, and it was sort of the beginning of cancel culture, and all that stuff, and I knew this teacher

“to be a lovely kind, Quaker leaning human being.”

- Yeah. - And the fact that he's, you know, incited this whole controversy, I thought, this is such a good story. - What can I say?

What's a Quaker? I mean, I know what a Quaker is. I don't know what Quaker is. - Yeah, yeah, that's all I know. - But what's a Quaker School?

What does it mean? - It's a Christian denomination, but I feel like they're the greatest. They really take the word literally. So, you know, there's no priesthood,

you know, in the Quaker meeting house, anyone is allowed for guardless of your religion. There's no priesthood, because the idea is, nobody is closer to God than anybody else. - I've got it, I understand.

- It's called a popcorn meeting when someone stands up in speaks, because, I don't know. - It's a great fiber. - Yeah, you wanna talk about it

denomination that's got colon health, you need to go no further. - Oh, was I getting boring? Was I getting like, yeah, that's our job. - We got a pop it in, everyone's gonna wanna help.

- Yeah, yeah. - Who'd be worse, yeah. - Must actually gotta do it. We're just dumb dudes, hey, what made you think that you could be the bumpers? - Yeah, the brighter the show runners.

- Now, why made you think? - But everyone would love to. - God, I think. - Would like to have their own show on Netflix. I mean, like, how great?

- Well, first of all, I watched David and Dan do it. - Yeah, and you're like, right there. - These two guys can, yeah. - Holy shit. - Holy shit. - Exactly.

- No, I was like, oh my god, I better not fuck this up. I think it's just like love of actors. That was it. That was like my starting point. - Gary is a writer, and it meant writing talent.

And we're gonna get into that. But like, where did the writing talent come from? You didn't study it in school? - I did. - You did, okay.

- Yeah. - American history and American. - Well, I just took a lot of creative writing classes. And then acting just sort of took over,

but I was always kind of dabbling.

And then I think when I married David, he was really encouraging. When studio 60 got canceled, he was like, take a stop. Let's go.

- Especially, and that was Aaron Sorkin wasn't it? So you had, you had, you just been under that. I mean, my god, those, yeah, those scripts. - Yeah, incredible. - So wait, all right, well, we're on the writing thing.

Let's talk about this incredible essay that was just published by the New Yorker a couple of weeks ago,

do so. It is, I mean, you tell me, Amanda,

“is this not the equivalent of an Oscar for an actor”

to be a writer and to get published in the New Yorker is the zenith of the accomplishments, yes? - Lost my mind. - I can't lost the timeline. - What's the name of the article?

- It doesn't have a name, it's... - But what would you name it? (laughing) - I mean, like, how do I find it? - Just Amanda, Pete and New Yorker.

- Oh, there's a start. - Yeah, I've, I've, you ever used the internet, sorry. - I have read it and it is not only

as an incredible piece of writing,

but the subject matter, it is, it is nonfiction, it is, it is about our guest and her family and mortality. And tell them the rest of it, if you're comfortable, 'cause it is just stunning, and it left me with real wet cheeks at the end.

- Huge cheeks. - And I mean facial cheeks. (laughing) - Sorry, I need to be clear. (laughing)

- Well, where is your thing? - I don't know, it's so far away. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, yeah, yeah. (laughing) - Jason, just say facial cheeks.

- And I had, and I ended with a real wet cheeks afterwards. Facial cheeks. (upbeat music)

The boys will put that together.

- Sure, I feel that. - I feel that. - Hopefully you thought I could feel your work. (laughing) - And we will be right back. - And now back to the show. Amanda, tell us about some of the things that are revealed

in this, I mean, deeply, deeply personal. - Well, so on the Friday of Laborty Weekend, this last Laborty Weekend, I went to my breast surgeon. I have what's known as dense and busy breasts. (laughing)

- Guys, I'm not gonna hit that softball. Y'all live that to you guys. - And now I just-- - Keep your finger finger nearby. - I feel like you were looking at my search history. Okay, I'm really gonna see that up.

(laughing) - Okay. - No, you guys for real.

“It's a real thing, and you have to get tested all the time”

because-- - Well, do you mind telling me

what, 'cause I'm super into medical stuff, like what is that condition? What if you don't mind? - I guess it just means that it means that on screens, it's hard to detect cancer.

- Okay. - Because it's a little bit like a forest or something, I don't know. - But there's like too many, it's too dense and busy. - Like vascular and cardiovascular kind of things, yeah. - Yeah. - But all jokes aside, that's scary.

That's a scary idea. - Yeah, so I was used to going, I go all the time, I go every six months, I get ultrasounds, and as well as mammograms. And so she found something on the Friday of Laborty Weekend

and went right before I left. She said, I said to her, do you think, if you were a bedding woman, what would you say? And she said I think it's cancer. - Oh my God.

- So I went home-- - And you had to wait for the results. - Yeah. - Test, I guess. - So then she said she was in a walk

“at over to Seeders, 'cause it was a holiday weekend.”

I was like, I talk about Xanax. - Yeah. - So I came home and then the next day, David went down to San Diego while we were waiting to hear from the doctor, 'cause the kids had a soccer tournament and my sister called and told me that my dad was about to die.

So I flew to New York and my poor sister had just dropped her last kid off at college and-- - So she's in a great mode. - So she was dealing with a lot of like closure and loss. And so my dad passed away and--

- So sorry. - Thank you. - The essay is really, really funny. - Yes, it actually is. It actually is, this is what, this is her super power.

It is, it has the most devastating things in it and the most hilarious stuff in the middle. It's really something we can't wait to read it yet. - So anyway, when I got on the plane to come back to LA to get ready to get all the tests

and go through the whole process of having breast cancer, I was like, surely I can write about this. Surely this is a weekend from hell that there's gotta, it's gotta-- - It's not thinking New Yorker.

You're thinking just sort of a cathartic kind of let me just learn all of it. - Yeah, I wasn't thinking that far ahead. I was just like, this can't be that common. I mean, not that like, I--

- You know, we can't from hell. - Yeah, but we can from hell. Let's sort of what I was thinking.

- And meanwhile, my mom was also in hospice. So both my parents were in hospice

“at the exact same time, so, you know, I just--”

- It's all this past year. - Just now, yeah, just now. - Yes, it's good. - And I was very lucky. Everything's, you know, I'm clear.

I did radiation, I have this dreamly lucky, the cancer they found. - It was cancer, it meant it. - It was cancer, yeah. - It was cancer, yeah, yeah.

- I'm so sorry. - Oh, thank you. Yeah, so I was like, I said, like, very, very lucky. - No one knew this, right?

I mean, it is in the article is your first mention,

first time you've gone public with this, yes? - Yeah, I think because, you know, we didn't tell the kids right away, 'cause, you know, Frankie, we had dropped Frankie off at college the week before, so we,

and as some people know this, but cancer, most types of cancer, it takes a while to find out where you are. Like, what is your treatability? What kind of breast cancer do you have?

How big is your-- - And that tells you how to treat it.

“- Yeah, but, you know, I found out later,”

now I know so much more about breast cancer that and other cancers too, I mean, there are types of pediatric leukemia where you don't find out for a year, whether you have a treatable, you know, of course,

but the waiting is insane making. - Yes, just insane making. So yeah, I we didn't wanna tell the kids for a while until we knew whether I was gonna do chemo and what the course of treatment was gonna be,

so I wanted to keep it a secret, 'cause I wasn't even telling my children. So yeah. - Wow, and then you're in your dad's house while you were waiting for that.

- While he was on the plane, yeah, he had a test. - Well, he had a test, yeah. - But you got there in time to say goodbye, and yeah, it's all in the art of what it's so, it's the essay, it's like, it's so, it's so well-written.

So wait, so then now you get home, you're starting your treatments, you're your mom, you're being a saint, she's living with you in home. - Yeah, Jason has come and seen my mom many times.

So yeah, she was single, my parents got divorced, and she was single and living in New York, and so she has Parkinson's disease. So once she was wheelchair bound, we David being the all jokes aside,

the mench to and all menches, moved my mom here, and we took her in. So she was living here for the last seven years. - I mean, your stuff that you write about, your connections with her right there at the end,

or just everything. - That's so beautiful. - I have no idea, all I need is that your mom

was living with you, you never talked about it in any way.

- And you're like managing this vibrant career that is after all these years, even more vibrant, and writing and doing stuff, and you're shooting that show in New York, you're shooting your show with him in New York.

- Yeah, shooting with him. - Yeah, they're been, they were really lovely, like last summer when before I found out, I'd breast cancer, chopper and John Hamm were very beautiful about my mom

being in hospice and letting me go back and forth all the time. Like I have very special bosses I have to say. - Well, this is really amazing, because every time, I didn't know any of this is going on.

So every time I see you, I always laugh, I was such a great year here and you always so positive and have so much light about you and around the day. - And around the day, actually, guys. (laughing)

- No, it's not a dream, it's not a dream. - It's not a dream, it's not a dream, it's not a dream. - It's not a dream, it's not a dream. - Yeah, it's not a dream. - Well there's redlands, she does a side curve,

riddle in, as well, it's a side curve. - Side curve, riddle, it's true though. - It's like her riddle in, she is the light. - You're such a joy, you're such a joy, like it's just amazing to know what just goes to show you

have no idea what anybody's going through.

“And I think my mom, thank you first of all,”

but yeah, my mom is this that way, like very Jewish sense of humor, like very, we're asking about what I miss about New York, like she has that very New Yorkie, neurotic, Jewish, sharp, witty sense of humor

and just throughout her Parkinson's, you know, I mean, it's a horrible disease, I know you guys probably know a little bit about it

and she never really lost her sense of humor.

- That's amazing. - Never, never. - Right. - A good model for all, as Carrie Fisher said, always look for the humor, yeah.

- Yeah, for sure. - All right, so we're going to take a look at that essay for sure. - We're going to clip her. - For the, yeah, it's sad that you're about to go away.

and just enjoy their dose of a man to pee, I can't wait in the screen. They've been enjoying your friends' neighbors quite a lot. As I would imagine, as I did. - As I did.

- You are, Amanda, notwithstanding the hours spent with John Hamm, 'cause that can be tough, you know, this guy, that would be true. - That would be true, let's face it. - Let's face it.

- Yeah, well, you know, maybe this is people who catch on, people catch on, and we'll be rid of them. But until then, you guys are great on this show.

The second season is coming up here in the spring,

as well as your new film. Let's talk about your new film. It's called Fantasy Life. - Really? - It's March 27th. - You are pretty good. - And you're so cute.

- You are producer on that, and also the co-star. And you were awarded. What were you awarded for that hole on? I don't want you to have to say it yourself here.

“I believe it was some sort of special award”

at South by Southwest. The film on the audience award as well. I mean, this is, and I saw it the other night, and it's effing great. It's a real, naturalistic, you know, let's put it this way.

If you loved, we'll our next film, and I know all of our listeners did, you will love this film too. It's got a lot of the same, really great, naturalistic sort of texture to it,

if you will. - No, it's swinging for the fences with some like-- - What is the common formance crap? - It's really effortless quality. - How does it come out Amanda?

- I was swimming with the fences. (laughing) - With the literal bags.

- You never ask the audience to watch your performance.

You know, you're never screaming. Like, hey, look at me, act. It's so easy to watch. - I'm screaming deep inside, look at me. - Whatever it is, it's work and deep inside.

Was that a great sense of accomplishment? Because you've been doing great work on, this is what your first film in 10 years, was that important thing? - Can I just say something about back to movies?

“- People keep saying that, can I just say something?”

I'd say it's not like I chose not work in a movie for 10 years. I just couldn't get arrested. But you're no longer pushing your head shots under doors and stuff.

I mean, as you said, you've got this healthy sexy and difference, guys, and you're busy doing things that are a little bit more important to you. I would imagine. - Yes.

- Honestly, it's really just what is the writing good. And in this particular case, this indie writer came to me with this idea of this was before baby girl.

It's basically like a sort of upper crust mom who has--

- This is Matthew Shear? - The upper crust mom, yeah. - Yes, but Matthew Shear. It's like, she hasn't affair with the manny, basically. She has it higher than manny for her kids.

- Yes. - And when I read the script on about page 15, this neurotic speaking of neurotic Jews from New York, he has a scene with his shrink where he's talking about his OCD with Judd Hersh,

where he's having these self-hating Jew intrusive thoughts where he sees like a Jewish guy on the subway with a big nose, like David. And he says, "Hooknotes, hooknotes, hooknotes." And he thinks he's gonna say it out loud.

And I was like, "Well, this is brilliant. I wanna do this." - Oh wow. - So fucking funny. - Yeah, yeah.

- I feel like a lot of funnier than how I'm pitching it. - No, it's, but again, it's not asking for laughs. It's really tasteful. Elsa and her novellas in it with you as well. - How funny is he?

- Yeah, he's great. - He's great, wait, when does it come out? - March 27th. - March 27th. - Which I believe has already passed.

We're doing this a little bit ahead of time, but yeah, I know that, obviously. - Yeah, it'll be better now. - Go out there and grab it y'all. - Now, what is my next question?

Here I come. - I know Jamie here. - I know. - Jamie just got off script a little, but just, you know, what do you do for fun?

- Well, you know what she does for fun. - Yeah. - Dense and busy, Dense and busy. - Well, I've Dense and busy.

“- Oh, no, that's what Will does for fun.”

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Wait a minute. What is the rest of the day look like today? - No, that's a great question. Yeah, let's do that one.

(laughing) - This is the most hard-hitting journal this time. - No, you're not. - Are you out of your mind? - I'm just going.

- No, I want to know, I want to know because first of all,

in this past six months or a year,

“and now I want to know, like, what do you do all day?”

'Cause the kids are away, right? - What do you do all day? Like, 'cause you're about to start, are you about to start press for both the film and the show? - Yes, yes.

- And is that something that you like? Do you like going out there and doing all the chat and giggles? - What do you guys think? I feel like when you're proud of it. - It all depends on sleep, but if I slept,

I'm going to do anything. I'm tired, I don't want to do it. - Do you have trouble sleeping? Let's talk about sleep, because-- - Yeah, as you get older and smarter in the brain works better,

there's more stuff to think about, sleeping gets harder. - Yes, I just read somewhere that it used to be-- - By red, you mean TikTok. - Uh-huh, don't take that. (laughing)

By the way, sure, I think I did see it on TikTok. Where you sleep, it used to be hundreds of years ago, people only slept for three or four hours, got up,

and then there was a second sleep.

- Yeah. - Says who? - TikTok. - That is true. - Yeah, he's right.

“- And then, so that's what happens to me.”

I sleep for a little bit. - There was a time in New York, you can look at it, where people used to go and they'd walk around in the middle of the night, it would be, I remember reading this, there was a book about it

about these, people would walk around sort of at like 1 a.m. and there'd be, there'd be like a kind of a nightlife, the people, because sort of before the advent of widespread, - They gotta get your eight hour electric bulbs, and all that kind of, that people would go to sleep earlier,

and then often wake up on the night, and they would have like a reprieve from their sleeping, and I am definitely looking that up. - Or are you guys, are you rumenators when you wake up? How do you keep your brain from being deaf?

- We're all gonna die. - How to drive a thinking, do you kind of shot a thinking? - Yeah, yeah, you do.

- I mean, I've been, yeah, yeah.

- But so how do you stop yourself, Sean, when you, so you have two sections of sleep with a thing in the middle, so what, - I went back to bed. - Can you able to put your phone away?

- No, no, I play games or I'll read, or do whatever I'm a computer, like I'll read stuff that's, I find interesting, but most of the time I play games. - But doesn't the blue mind?

- I didn't, people tell you not to put-- - I have glasses that, that's soft in the blue light. - No, that's a great look, you've got the glasses on, the CPAP, and the, and then you've got the, what's it called, the Beetlejuice?

What's it like, a jewel, jewel-ficed? What's the game you play? - What's the game you play? - Can't you ride any cross, can't you? - That's hot, that is hot.

- But it's more about what that's doing, the sort of firing, all those things in your brain, instead of, in that moment, if you were to wake up and pick up a book, it might find it easier to see. - I know, but I, but I don't know.

- Will is constantly pushing, reading. - Okay, I know. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - I'm sorry, I'm mostly about what we're to though. - Not recently, I've, no, right now,

or are we into the, which direction you're going? - The last, you know, what, the last couple of weeks, I've been into more sort of modern war. - Okay. - Which I, and I, I didn't really think of it.

- And I said, what are the best modern war books over the last 10 years? What, we just said, what they said? - Yeah. - And they sent me a list of books and I, - You don't know where?

- I just drove, but, I know. - Oh, sorry, Sean, hang on, I'm sorry, Sean. (upbeat music) - Little late, little late on the draw there. Wait, is that fiction or non-fiction?

- Fiction, it's been like, - That's fiction. - crime, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been like, I know, it's so good that you read all that well. - That's so good.

- Do you read a lot, Amanda? - I try, yeah, I try to read a lot. I, David reads a lot. - David reads a lot. - David and I have exchanged books.

- I know. - I know. - We've handed each other books before. - And now he's listening to the rest is history. Do you know the podcast? - Oh, yes, yes. - He's obsessed.

- Yeah, very good. - What is that? - It's really fun, I feel like he-- - What is a book, like an audio book or something? - It's a podcast and they, they talk about history but in a very accessible--

- Oh, like, for dumb dumb. - Oh, like for dumb dumb. - For dumb dumb, it's like, "Hey, for dumb dumb, it's like me." - Yeah, like I'm doing the one on, on, on, I ran right now. And they're so, they're, well, they think they're so easy.

- They're very, very interesting. - They're not as funny as you guys, but they're not funny. - But we're, how, I wear it at people have the time to listen to podcasts. - On the thing, we're in the car.

- No, you do the thing. - I'm watching the news. - One, I'm, one, I'm on the thing. - But Jay, if you look, well, look at, look at this way. You, you dedicate, I'd say 80% of your time that you watch TV, which is about 80% of your day,

is you're watching news, but the other 20 you're watching sports. - I keep waiting for him to get caught, you know. - No, no, my hand. - If you were to, if you were to delegate some of that time, to, to, to, sitting in a chair in a room

with headphones on staring at them. - Well, while you're on the, while you're on the exercise, - Oh, right. - Or I do it in the car. - Well, in the car.

- Yeah. - All right. - In the car, and listen to these guys,

“I think that you'd find it pretty interesting.”

- But I can't finish it. My car rides you're like 15, 20 minutes. Is that okay?

especially if you're interested in one section.

- Well, I hold my, hold my, hold my place. I don't want to have to start over when I get closer to go. - I just keep a screen shot of where I am.

“And that's how I know how many minutes have gone by,”

and then I return to it. - Of course you do come by. - You can't do it in an easier way. - I love it, you do that. Boy, that says everything.

- Really? - Yeah, that taught me a lot. - And it's great work. - It's scared. - No, no, no, no, it's very, it's very,

it's very, it's very methodical and I really appreciate that. - Well, she's a cabin corn. - I'm a Capricorn. - You know, we think shit through that. - I need to give a shout out to Amanda Anka

and say that I'm a Capricorn, yeah. - Yeah. - What are you guys drawn? - She knows you rise, I mean, and you're, and you're, whatever.

- No, it still needs more information, apparently,

to tell me exactly what I am. - I am cancer. I'm at that. - Oh, wow. - In every situation.

- Yeah. - In every situation. (all laughing) (all laughing)

“- That's what I found out shit, I'm like a modern day”

Fred Norton. I'm like a, you know, like a low-rate Fred where I was from. How are you? - Hey Sean, what's your rising?

- I don't know what that means. - Okay, me neither. I will, what about you? - Sean, we don't have a joke for what's rising. And Sean, we're panting something in my pants.

- Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'll be out, be out, be out. - We'll be out, be out, be out. (all laughing) - I forget, but Amanda, Amanda, she's got it all on us. She's got it all on us.

Amanda needs to be here so she could, yeah. She could tell us what's what in the coming. - All right, I have sent Amanda Anka, like a year ago, whatever, like what time, I had to ask my mom exactly what time it day I was born.

I did all this stuff, she needed to have all this information. - If you wanted to know if you were a good match for her. (all laughing) - I already knew, she's already knew. - Yeah, she's sticking with me.

- I love her so much. - I love her so much. - And you don't wanna know who else I love so much? - Yeah. - The other Amanda in my life.

- Amanda peaked today's guest, and we want to thank you for your hour and eight minutes. We love you. - I love you, I love all three of you so much. - I love you so much too.

- We love your husband, your three kids, the whole thing. - I love you. - And your talent. - So go out there, read that essay in the New Yorker, watch your movie fantasy life,

watch your show, your friends and neighbors, and stay tuned for the next half of this incredible woman's career and life. - We got 'em in to start crying. - I'm gonna cry.

- I know. We love you, have a good day, and I love you so much. - I love you, gentlemen, so much light. - I'm gonna hug you so hard when I see you, 'cause that's it.

- Yeah, I'm gonna see you. - Please, please. - Please, me. - Okay. Love you.

- All right, bye. - Love you guys. - Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. - That was Amanda Peat, one of my dearest, longest friends. - I don't know, she.

- One of my all-time faves, right? - Same person. - This is super funny.

- Yeah, and like I said, she's always so bright.

I know it would never know anything's going on ever. She's always not that that like, I mean, you know, it's just somebody who knows how to-- - I know. - Always walking her room and light it up.

- Yeah, for sure, and on screen too, like I just, she's just always sort of ground stuff that I watch and always kind of elevates it, kind of smarts it up. - You know what, J.B., I have a recollection

of before you guys were friends before you'd worked together that you always admired. You used to talk about her in this way, that she was for you like kind of the gold standard, and she was like one of those people,

you wanted to work with her really bad.

“- Yeah, you know what, you did the best way.”

- Yeah, it was. The only was like that for me too, and still to this day. Like, I just think there's a Julia Robertses like that too, there's a strength and a style of humor, and also of drama that, I don't know,

I don't kind of remind me of each other, but yeah. - She is a treasure, and Sean, right about now is when you start to say, "Hey guys, I'm for real." - Do you remember the time that I, do you remember? - Hey guys, you were in a favorite film of hers was.

(laughing) - And then you kind of worked it out. - I'm coming, I'm coming. - I'm coming. - I'd wait, we're gonna pot, we're gonna cut out this pause and the waiting.

- Oh, are we? - Yeah. - You know that, that David Benningoff husband or hers, you know, that's, they've got kind of like a dual, it's a double barrel shock, kind of over there of talent, and accomplishments,

and there's sort of, you know, yeah, great. - And, you know, you know, yeah. - Yeah, I thought that a great tee up there for one of you guys. - I know. - Oh, wait, yeah, something like that.

- Oh, God, we've got a collar. A collar is, oh, you know, one of my favorite jobs that I've ever done in a man to pee, happened to be in it. We talked about it earlier, a real treat, yeah.

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