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Yeah, I feel like this one is long overdue because we have gotten a lot of email over the years about us screwing up the difference between Britain and England and the United Kingdom. Never again.
Well, hopefully never again and hopefully we get all this right.
I do want to say in our defense though, release my defense. A lot of times I have said England for somebody who was from England, and people have called me out and said, "You can't just say England if it's Britain or the UK or something." And I'm like, "But they're born and London. I can't say they're English."
“What you didn't know is the person who called you out from California?”
Yeah, probably so. So, yeah, we're going to try to get this right and we will try to continue in the future. But hey, we're only human, a flesh and blood, some men. So we might get it wrong eventually at some point. That's right.
So I guess we should start out by saying that the UK, the United Kingdom, isn't the same thing as saying Great Britain. The UK has a longer name, it's the United Kingdom officially, it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. That's a mouthful.
It is.
So they just say UK, but it is a nation state of four countries, which is England, Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland. That's right. So what's Great Britain? Okay, that was the UK. I think we should go over it three more times.
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“Great Britain is an actual geographical area, the physical lamb mass that England, Scotland”
and Wales share. The island. It is. It's the island of Great, well, Great Britain. Yeah, like Greece.
The UK, except Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain because it's on a different island. Right? That's right.
It's still part of the UK.
It's just not part of Great Britain. No, they're not either. No, they're not either. Yeah. Northern Ireland as you would guess is on the Northern tip of Ireland.
Just a tip. Also in Ireland, next door to Great Britain, I'm so afraid we're going to screw this up still. We're not. We can read everything verbatim.
How about that? And that's been this nervous in a long time recording an episode. Okay. So we've got Great Britain. It's an island.
It's an island off the coast of mainland Europe. A big one. England, Scotland and Wales all share it. So to the west of Great Britain, as we said, is Ireland a different island in the Northern Ireland.
And we're doing this. Sure. And the reason that there's Northern Ireland and Ireland is that Ireland broke away from the British Crown in 1922, Northern Ireland said, no, we're going to stay. Which is why Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom as well.
That's right. Great Britain, everybody. That's right. We have another term that we need to mention, which is the British Isles, also a geographical term.
Can be a little dodgy as far as, I'm not sure, like, how controversial it is. Pretty controversial. Yeah. These islands are, like, there are thousands of these islands off the coast of northwest Europe, a ton of them.
Like, you know, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, I guess, I'm just, boy, I'm very bravely going on. I don't know them and saying the Isle of White. That's pretty brave. I would not do that.
I didn't look that up, but I think so. But like I said, several thousand of these islands, and some of these islands, like the Isle of Man for one, are not part of the United Kingdom. They are, like, politically tied to a degree, but technically they are, um, a distinct thing.
We think that's right.
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you get your podcasts. All right, so there's a hope that's been clear so far. We've said everything three times. The issue of governance is also at hand because it varies times over the years and we're not going to dig too deeply into this because we're trying to have fun here, but like
there have been the idea that like Scotland may want to break away or Wales may want
“to break away, I think the last time Scotland tried it was 2014.”
This notion has been lobbed out there before, but we're not going to wait too deeply into that. We just thought it was worth mentioning. No, but it's, and yes, thank you for mentioning it, check you to create jobs just now. Thanks.
But like you said, the United Kingdom is a nation state, it's a sovereign state and it's made up of four member countries, which again is England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland, right? So I didn't realize this at all, but it does make sense because you know that there's Scottish officials in Parliament, there's Welsh officials in Parliament or the Irish officials
in Parliament.
They're all coming together because Parliament, I always thought it was just English, Parliament
is actually UK, it's the governing, legislating body of the entire United Kingdom, not England. That's right, Wales, I think, or I believe Northern Ireland, they establish the Northern
“Ireland Assembly in 1998, I believe that Scotland did that in 1999 and also Wales, they all”
have their own national assemblies in addition to having their own parliamentary reps. Right? Yes, people come and give short programs encouraging them to not do drugs, those kind of assembly. Right.
And then, England doesn't have a sovereign legislator of its own Scotland does, Wales is and Northern Ireland does, but not England. That's right, until 25 years ago none of them had independent law-making bodies, none of those countries did outside of Parliament, but like I said, the other three did England still doesn't.
The Union Jack, if you're wondering, is literally a union, that's, I guess why it's all that, of the three flags of England, Scotland and Ireland and Wales is just like, what about us? And they're like, you're not technically a kingdom, so you're not going to be part of the Union Jack and Wales is like, thanks a lot.
Right. We got Christian Bale though. Well, then we're independent. Yeah. I thought he was Irish.
He's Welsh. Yeah, he's Welsh. I know, super furry animals are Welsh. Oh, buddy, they blew my mind, opening up for Granddaddy in LA in the early 2000s, one of the best shows I've ever seen.
He told me that. And it's fantastic. What a band. Let's just go one more step here at Chuck.
No, oh, boy.
So you said that you were called out for calling people from England English, which is
dumb, not what you did being called out for because that's true. Like, the people you would call English are people from England. You wouldn't call anyone else in the United Kingdom or Great Britain English because they're not English. They're either Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish.
That's right.
“It gets a little dodgy, I think, because I think Americans are known for just hearing”
an accent and just saying English. I'm not one of those people. I can generally differentiate between, certainly, Scottish, Irish and English. But Welsh, not, I don't know, Welsh is an interesting accent and I've gotten decent it, like, some of the accents within England itself.
But yeah, I think it's pretty easy to tell, you know, depends on where you're from in Scotland in Ireland. But I've had friends from both Scotland and Ireland over the years, and it's a very distinct accent. I think the Scottish accent is probably my favorite accent in the world.
Scottish and Irish are both, and then it depends on where you're from. Like, if I had a friend from Glasgow and college cotton, and I could barely, like, when her friends came over, I could barely understand a word they said when they got to drink in too much, and even cotton at times, I won't call her Karen. But I eventually, after being friends with her for a couple of years in college, could sort
of work it out. It's much easier outside of Glasgow for me to understand. Yeah. But I do a lot of subtitles with Irish and Scottish cop shows, for sure. Yeah, for sure you have to, definitely.
Yeah. Yeah, you've been, like, English sometimes, like, an English show if they start talking fast, they can't quite keep up. Yeah. Or it depends on where they're from.
It's the one. Oh, I can't remember, it was a great little short series about a series of murders in the '70s. Is that the Yorkshire Ripper one? Yeah, maybe that was a shadow.
It was amazing. Yeah, that Yorkshire accent was really something. Yeah, I watched that whole thing on subtitles too. Yeah. What was the word that they used a lot?
I can't remember. No, no, no, no, no, no, keep what else you got, smart guy. Pop instead of Coke, pudding. Yeah, right. But they're talking about dessert.
That's my mind. I can't remember. There was one word that they used a lot just in the everyday vernacular that, you know, the subtitles helped me out with it. But I thought it was a cool accent.
I liked it. Yeah, if you haven't seen it, it's definitely worth watching. It's very, very well done. Yeah, very good, agreed. One other thing though, if you were ever talking to somebody from the UK who's not English
and you come in on their English accent, how much you like it. And they call you out. The way out of it is to say, no, I was commenting on how you were speaking the English language. I love the accent you used for that. And there will start getting stars and birds swirling over their head and you just creep
away while they're confused. Yeah, and as far as like saying whether or not somebody is British, obviously if they're not from England, they're not English, but if they're part of great Britain, I don't know how people personally feel about that. My guess is that people from Scotland are like, I'm Scottish and they wouldn't refer to
themselves as British. And somebody from Northern Ireland or from Wales would say, I'm Irish or I'm Welsh and not British. But I mean, maybe they say, I'm Scottish and then British or something. I don't know.
They probably don't even put it like that. Probably just some dumb American thing. Well, this was Dave Ruse's joint on how stuff works.
“And he talked to his, I think, brother-in-law, Tim, who's from England.”
And Tim says that the English are more likely to say that they're British first in
English second. So the opposite of the Welsh and the Scottish and the Irish. Yeah. So one other thing, Chuck, not only is there the United Kingdom, but the United Kingdom also technically includes the commonwealth nations that include Australia, New Zealand,
Canada, Jamaica, Permuda, which we're going to be at on our Virgin cruise. That's right. Mine blowing lead the Virgin Islands, which also ties into our Virgin voyage. Yeah. The British Virgin Islands.
Right. Is there American Virgin Islands? Yeah. The ADI and the 3DI. Yeah.
And then the cavements, which apparently is not a great shelter for your money like you used to be in the 80s. Did you try to move some? Yeah. You got stymied?
Yeah. I think that's it, right? Yeah. I got nothing else. I just, I'm so ready for this one to be over, but before I say something wrong, even though
that probably happened like five times already. I think you did a great job, man. I really do. I really do. Congratulations, buddy.
We're done and we'll never get it wrong again.
That's right. All right. Short stuff is out.
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