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Please welcome support to the game. Lucky Rose Kyle! So he does thing we're like, "Go like that!" "What are you doing?"
"What are you doing?" "I have to do it for you." "I'm great." "How are you guys?" "You're a better dancer."
"You are a bundle of just so much "just positive, beautiful energy and joy." "Your smile is contagious." "Thank you."
"This is our first time meeting face-to-face."
"I know I are wrong." "Yeah." "Our dads are good friends." "They hang out." "I feel like I know you."
"No, not about you." "So just meeting you." "I'm like, "You're gorgeous." "I'm just staring at you." "You are so sweet."
"I just said you guys are Amazonian." "She did thing." "You did." "I felt so short when I walked in." "But you know, it's glad that we were like,
"We're normal." "Yeah."
"It's like it.
"It's just, I have on."
"I decided to put on the six inch."
"On top of number six one." "Right." "I wish." "I wish." "I love it."
"But you make up in other areas." "Yeah." "I'm a good five too." "And that's okay." "And that's okay."
"That's okay."
“"So we have you here because we just love to hear your story."”
"And just your perspective of being born into a life where, again, "your father is such a legend in his respective industry." "Oh, my gosh." "And I know there's so many viewers who, again, "it's easy for people to know your dad."
"Google him." "You just, we see him all the time." "But we don't really get to see a product of him." "His daughter." "You know, so we want to get to know you."
"And talk about what you're doing and where you're going and who you are becoming." "That's okay." "Yes." "That's okay." "It's okay."
"It's going to be fun." "We're going to kick you." "We're going to have a good time."
"So first question is, what was it like growing up with the subject?"
"The entertainer." "As your dad." "Who is he?" "The said he had." "Yeah."
"I know what's so funny is that I actually don't think I realized my dad's "stardom until like way later in life." "Like it was not something that like..." "And I don't understand how I didn't pick up on it." "Yeah, I have no clue how I didn't pick up on that."
"Maybe until..." "I think it was around the time." "He got a star on the whole he would walk a thing." "And that would be you." "Yeah."
"You said that to me." "What age were you?"
“"I think I had to have been like 13 maybe."”
"Okay." "Yeah." "I think I was probably like a great age." "Sure." "I think, you know, at the time like Netflix had just started to do comedy
"specials like that was starting to happen." "He got his." "Okay." "And I was like, "Wait, that has a comedy." "You know what? What you've been doing?"
"I know. - He doesn't say, "Hey, dad, this is coming." - He's working out for you. - He's working out for you. - Yeah, he's working out for you.
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- He's working out for you. - He's working out for you. - He's working out for you. - He's working out for you. - Even when he's in, you're like, okay, you're thinking he's the black celebrity.
- Right. - How did that make you feel just even knowing? It sounds crazy. But you still know that he's a celebrity of some sort, right? - Yeah.
- How does that make you feel like, but it's normal, I guess, to you. - Yeah, right.
- It was always very normal.
- Okay. - And I don't think my parents did such a good job at keeping, because I'm the baby that's three of us. And I think that they did a really good job at keeping us all super humble. - Okay.
- And we didn't make our dad like an appendage to our personality. - Yeah. - Like his start-up. - Okay. - You know, clothes and vacation and cars.
- Yeah. - And this like, I don't think we understood truly the monetary value of it all. I think my mom was just really focused on this being kids. And so, along with that, she really didn't want us in the limelight too much. Like, she really didn't want us to be, you know, the celebrity kid.
- The celebrity kid? - Yeah. - She tried us to really keep us away from that. Of course, like, we would go to, like, I have, like, all of my oldest memories
“are like sitting in backstage of like comedy shows and that's what I ask you.”
- Yeah. And like, you know, just running around backstage and doing things like that. But I was always with my mom, like always, always, always, always, always. - Okay. - And so, it just kind of felt like how you go to the playground.
Like, it was just a part of my everyday routine. - Yeah. It was like, on the weekend, we'll be at the forum. - Like, I don't know. - Yeah.
- And to me, it wasn't the forum at five. It was like, you know, just some place where dad's working. - Yeah. - We had had it computed like that. - Okay.
- And I was just going to play with blocks. - Yeah. - Because it hadn't really gone there yet, but when I realized, I had watched, well, I had watched, like, some of his movies. I had watched Johnson's Family Vacation.
And that was the only one I was allowed to watch. - We loved that movie. - Why is it so big? - We loved that movie.
- We loved that movie.
- We loved that movie. - And it's on it. - And it's on it. - And it's on it. - And it's on it.
- And it's on it. - And it's on it. - We will turn that on just because it's a Tuesday. - Yeah. - I have nothing else to do, but I want a classic tour.
- Yeah, yeah. - And we'll turn it on. - It's so fantastic. I mean, first of all, bow wow. - It's okay.
- Like, who didn't have a crush on bow wow. - Yeah, yeah. - Every other day. - Yeah. - Bow wow salons.
- Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, art the community. - Yeah. - It was just absolutely amazing.
- Yeah. - Young Jason Momoa. - Okay. - Like, wow. - Wow.
- Yes. - Yeah. - Well, it's an amazing, an amazing film. And so that was the only one I could watch, because it was like his most like childish film.
- And what year did that? Because I want to link the age. Because we're a decade. - Yeah. - We're not going to reveal our age.
- But we're at least a decade older than you.
“- And that movie came out when we were 25, I think.”
- Was it okay? - Yeah, so you saw for the first time. - Okay. - I was born 2003. - Right.
So it came out when you were a baby. So you saw it. - Yeah. - She is a baby. A beautiful baby.
- Yeah. - So you saw it at what age for the first time. - Like, um, like maybe two young. - Like maybe like six or seven. - Okay.
- Okay. - It was, it was absolutely the first movie that I saw of his for the first time. - And then, what did you feel when you saw him? - Or his for being.
- Or his for being. - Yeah. - I think I just felt, I think he was exciting. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah.
- It was absolutely exciting. I was accustomed to seeing him live performance. But like seeing him on film was so cool. - Yeah. - And like, you know, seeing him really like act.
- Yeah. - Like I thought that was interesting. - Yeah. - But then, like, it also like, I remember, because, you know, he has a whole different family.
Like in the movie. - In the movie. - Yeah. - And so it's so funny to see him like play dad on screen as he's like dad. - Right.
- So it's just like, I don't know.
It's kind of silly because he's like, you would never say that.
- I was like, you would never say that in his similarities that you would see on camera and you're looking in real life. - Like, you don't do this. - Yeah. - Like, you know. But you know what?
Actually, now that I think about it. So in Johnson Family vacation, he's kind of like, type A about them traveling. - Yes. - And my dad is absolutely like that.
We call him traveling. - Like, he has to be like, on time. - He has a nice scenario. - He's actually like, he's hilarious. - And we all know, we're like, oh,
travel man's coming out because he like needs everything it has to be on time. Like the I 10 by 10, like that's so him. - But that's so him. - His favorite thing. - We say that still.
- I 10 by 10. - I know, he'll say, um, church on the move. And that means like, okay, we have to all start walking now. Like, it's, it's time to go. - He needs like all of his things carried.
Like, he needs like, he just needs all the things he has to be in some type of like. - Yeah. - He's like, it's a whole situation. - And he's like any complications. - That's hilarious.
- That's like a good, it does. - It sounds just like my father. But I was going to ask you, do you think that is something viewers would be surprised to know about your dad. That he is very structured and, you know, I tend to,
- But he's so funny. - Yeah.
- He's like, I would never think that.
- Yeah.
“- I think he's pretty chill, like most of the time.”
It's just when he's traveling. - But typically, it's because he has like somewhere to be. - Right. - But I think because we, I mean, I'm like the most type B person. - Okay.
- Like, I'm super organized. - Mm-hmm. - But I'm like, well, I don't know, like, let's just be like, - Yeah. - Like, the word of the wind blows means that's where I'm going to be.
- Exactly. - And I think me and my arm, the only people that are like that, but we're also the most adventurous. - Okay. - So we travel alone a lot.
- Okay. - And we actually just took a trip to Asia where we just, we didn't have any places to stay. We didn't have any visas. We were like, let's just go.
- Good for you. - Let's just go when we go. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah.
- Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We just drove with no itinerary. No hotel.
- No. - No. - I was like, okay, girl. We got to figure out what hotel is. - But we did, it's like the type of thing.
It's like, we'll find it when we get there. - Yeah. - But we're just so, we're so spontaneous. - Yeah.
“- So I think, but my dad can't roll like that.”
He needs to know. - Okay. - But only with the travel. - Okay. - But once he gets where he's going, he's good.
- He's good. - Out in the streets. - He's just, you know, outside. - So was humor part of your home life? Like was he funny at home?
Would he ever run jokes by you at home? - No. - Any joke you liked? - No, no, no, no, no. - Yeah, that was in person.
- Okay. - Okay. - One thousand percent. - Any joke that he says and you're like, Dad, no, that's a corny dot joke.
- You know what? Very rarely. - Okay. - Okay. - But he knows that it's corny.
- Okay. - And now just be like, okay, Dad. Like, all right.
But I always tell everyone my mom is way funnier than that.
- Is she? - What? - She's absolutely ridiculous.
She's hilarious.
- Oh, I love that.
“- And I think that's why they're so in love”
is because I think they bonded over the humor.
- Over humor. - And so he, like, he'll like steal a lot of his jokes from her. - Because she's absolutely ridiculous. - Oh, no, Mr. Senning is so hilarious.
- Hey, I'm not saying that. - No, I think like, I think like, I just, you know, her little ad lives around the house. - Yeah, so like, whatever she does. - Yeah, she is clearly.
- I'm like, we need the credit. - Honestly, he still stuff from everything we say. Like, all of us. Like, he'll write about me all the time. He used to write jokes about me in high school
and things I would say with my friends. And then I remember one time he went on stage and he said to somebody's name and I was like, "Dad, you can't say their name." - Because I couldn't be watching this.
- Because I couldn't be watching this. - Off is a gossip with him. - Yeah, that's our favorite thing to do. - Yeah. - I like go and we'll like gossip about like,
with happening at my school or here, here, my roommates, whatever. And then he'll go on stage and say, verbatim when I said I was like, "Dad, you cannot." - Oh my God, I will be mortified.
He'll be like, "Yeah, um, lucky friend." - Oh my God. - I totally, she, dad, you cannot say that. - So does he run like his jokes past you? They're about you.
- No, he does, never. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - I'm gonna do it. I want to do it.
- I'll just have to laugh when I say it. - Yeah, no. - He never does. But after that, then he doesn't do that anymore. But actually on his Netflix special,
and I was so mad at him because I was ridiculed for months. He has a joke where I asked him if animals commit suicide. - And I did not ask him that. - And I'm actually glad I can set the record straight. - You said that.
- You said that. - Yeah. - He was like, "Oh, I have this daughter. I'm really smart and really like weirdly curious." And she asked me if animals commit suicide.
Of course he like says it in some hilarious way. - And it goes into all this other stuff. - Mm-hmm.
“- But I remember going to school, and I think I was going to eighth grade.”
Like going to school afterwards. And my teachers being like, "Oh, look, you think animals commit suicide?" - And I was like, "I did not say that." - So look at that camera right there. - Right now.
- At the end of the time. - I never said that. - I actually think my brother asked him that. And then he just used my mother. - Not called her.
- Not called her. - Right. - He had a joke about my brother. - So he was like, "Oh, I have to throw lucky in there." - I did not say that.
And I'm glad I can set the record straight. - I do not think animals can commit suicide. - It's her brother. - I would say it's an interest, I mean. I mean, it's something to do with it.
- It's something to do with it. - I will say that. - But girl, you clear the air. - Right here. - I'm sorry.
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or wherever you get your podcasts. - It seems like you have a funny joke though, but it seems like you inherited a little bit of his personality. Like you're bubbly.
You have Joy, like you have great energy. Is there anything else you think you inherited from your dad? - I am ridiculously funny. I will say that.
- I don't agree. - I am super funny. I do think and he knows I'm really funny too. But I think
we both have an ability to just like, "Yap." - Yeah. - We're big chatter. - Yeah.
- And my dad's super, super charming. - Mm-hmm.
“- And I think I definitely got that from him.”
He's really outgoing, kind of like, talk to anybody, kind of guy. - Yeah. - My mom is really, really shy. - Mm-hmm.
- She's, you know, insane. - But she loves your mom by the way. - I know, as I say, your mom's love each other. - Yeah. - She's, she also has that ability to talk to anyone,
but she is quite, like, timid and shy. - Yeah. - And she is such a behind-the-scenes person.
She would never be able to be on camera.
- Yeah. - Kind of like how I am. - Yeah. - A little bit too. - You wouldn't know.
- Yeah. - I would never know. - But people always ask me, they're like, "Oh, are you an actress or, do you model or are you in entertainment at all?"
And I'm like, "No." - Never had the aspiration. - No. - That is not, that's just simply not for me. I really shouldn't.
- You're comfortable with you behind the camera. - Yeah. - I just, yeah. - Thank you. I always tell people I should never be in front of me.
- Well, we can't say "shouldn't." - Yeah. - Because you look amazing at the camera. - You look amazing at the camera.
“- I think that's not where you want to be.”
- Yeah. - You look like a fashion. - Yeah. - That's much more my brother. - Okay.
- He's, like, so, he should be an actor. He's, like, extremely talented. But that's just not. It just doesn't matter what I call it. - So, what's, you have, how many siblings?
- I have an older sister. - Okay. - How old is she? - She's about 30. - I can never tell.
I'm like, she's 35. I think she's 35. - And when she passed 30 at all, it's all the same. - Yeah. - And I just want to kill me if I say that she's older.
- She's older. - She's older. - She's older. - She's older. My brother is 20.
- Okay. - Okay. - I'm, like, why don't I know my siblings age? - I mean, 'cause it's a blur. - Yeah.
- Yeah. - I barely know mine. - He's three years older than me. - Okay. - Yeah.
- Okay. - How is Dad with dating? - He, you know what? - I don't know. - Actually, he's really good.
- Okay. - Yeah. - He's not like, oh, no. - Oh, okay. - He's the best.
He's like the sweetest man. He really is. He's such like a little tiny. - I was about to say, he really is like, every time I see Pedro, I'm like, yeah.
- He's like the most gentle, like cool guy.
- Yeah.
- I'm not just with him.
- But he, um, has always been really cool with dating.
“I think he's, I also claim that I have a really great picker.”
Like, I've never had any bad boyfriends. - Really? - Really? - Good for now. - I do a pretty good job.
That makes you just a good judgment of character. - Yeah. - I have a lot of discernment. - Very good. - Is that good?
- Do you learn that from your parents? - Do you think? - Definitely. - Okay. - Yeah.
Definitely from my parents. I also want my mom's my best friend. I tell her everything. - Okay. - And so, I mean, we like judged together.
Like it's someone's together. - Yeah. - I love it. - It's like, yeah. - You know, but I also just kind of feel it.
I'm like, um, I don't think so. - You ever go to dad for advice? - Oh, we good. - Literally always. - I call him all the time for relationship advice.
I call him all the time for everything. - We have a daddy's girl. - Another one. - No, real bad. - We attract daddy's girls.
- A real bad, a real bad. - And he's like, um, they have a running joke. Like, my family. If my dad's not picking up the phone, they'll be like,
like, you call him because he'll always always pick up the phone.
- And like, I call him the other day because I was like, I need to change my oil and I have no clue. - Like, just grow a problem. - I'm like, I never end. - And what am I going to do?
- Yeah, I do. - And I called him and he was on set taping. - Oh, wow. - And I was like, or like, sometimes it'll be in a table. - Yeah.
- And I'll be like, okay, I go to work. - Yeah. - But like, what do I do? Like, do I go to Costco? Like, you know, just, I'm ridiculous.
- And that will never change. - Yeah. - And when he comes out 20 years from now, it will never change. - Yeah. - You will always be his baby girl.
- I am always. - I love that. - You're like, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah.
- For me. - Yeah. - But he is pretty chill with dating. - Oh.
- He'd like, always give like, you know, a good stern talk.
- Yeah. - But he's pretty chill.
“- I think he like trusts my, my decision.”
- Yeah. - I think he trusts my decision. - Yeah. - And he's just like, she'll be fine. - Well, the sermon is a big word.
- It is. - And it only gets, I'll say, I don't want to say worse, but it only gets stronger. - It's stronger. - It does. - It's a sermon, and then you're like, dang.
- Dang. - I hate that I know this, but I know this. - So it. - Exactly. - The sermon is like, it's a gift, actually.
- Especially if it's a spiritual gift. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I actually got your age. - Yeah.
- I can still remember that for you. - Yeah. - Which is a career. - I mean, I definitely have made like, a handful. Like, I'm not even gonna have a bunch of mistakes.
- Which of course, that will continue to like, I'm 22. - Yeah, exactly. - Exactly. - Exactly. - And I was, I, you know, never know what I'm doing.
But I feel like, my parents are so amazing, because they've given me the space to like, make my own mistakes and mess up. And then always, like, help me pull me back up, make me feel, you know, better.
But my dad is really great with dating advice. He really helps me out. - What's the best advice he's just giving you just about life that you've been through? - It's a business. - Yeah, that you carry.
- I think. I mean, he, I go to him for a lot of business advice. - Okay. - Because, I mean, Batman does not quit. Like, he has so many different businesses and like,
streams of income and I just, it's so mind-boggling to me. He's definitely like, one of the hardest working people I know. He's always, always, always working.
“And I think that's another thing I got for him.”
Like, that industrious kind of mindset. Like, he's always thinking about the next thing. He's always thinking about, like, a way to tweak this, or tweak that, or like, a avenue into a certain industry. Or, like, he's just, his mind is always kind of,
and that has influenced you and how you view this. - Once that's the person. - That's the person. - And work ethic. - When the person.
- My mom is the same way. - Yeah. - She's like a very, like, turn nothing into something type of person. And she has, like, really amazing ideas. - I love that.
- I love that. - Like, where I'm like, I don't even know how you thought about it. - Yeah. - Like, there's just really creative people. - Yeah.
- But I think, he has taught me the most just to create things and create, as a release to my business, that feels like me. - So, stay chew to yourself. - Yeah. - And enjoy yourself.
- Yeah. - Yeah. My early stages of, you know, creating business, creating a business, and just, you know, thinking about what I wanted to look like, what I wanted to be.
- Yeah. - I was focusing so hard on other existing companies. - Okay. - And seeing if I could mirror that. - Okay.
- Like, mirroring what someone else liked, or like, what someone else. - Yes. - You know, what I thought they wanted. And so, I mean, that never works.
- Doesn't. Just let's me know that, like, I'm a person who, you know, has, like, you know, energy that people are attracted to. - And you're in that. - Yeah, exactly.
- Exactly. - Exactly. And it could just be, like, rooted in me. And it can just feel like lucky. - Yes.
- And then people will want to gravitate towards that.
- Exactly.
- And we're going to get into your business. - Absolutely. - We, you know, we'll dive into just more about pressure and expectations and just, you know, that, and it naturally comes.
And that naturally comes in this lifestyle, right? So, we'll dive into that.
- But first, we're going to get to know who you are.
- Yes. - Or who you were, I should say. - As a kid. - Yeah. - So, first, I want to ask you, what, what three words would you use
to describe yourself as a child or not? - No, let's start with us now and then we'll go backwards. - Okay. - Yeah. - I'll say,
I sound so narcissistic. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - Okay, so what's about you? - I'll say intelligent. - Oh, perfect.
- Um.
“I think charismatic would be the word I would use.”
And, um. I think maybe, like, genuine. - Okay. - Yeah. - I'll say genuine.
- Yeah. - Yeah. - I think that's intelligent. I think I'm pretty smart. - No, you're very, you're very smart.
- Yeah. - Intelligent, charismatic, and genuine. - genuine, yes. - So, then, when we talk about lucky as a kid, do you see yourself as you did, like, as you do now?
Then, can you, can you see yourself that you were always who we're going to become?
- In some aspects, I was definitely, I was a really shy kid. - Mm-hmm. - I think that, well, so, for a little history, my brother and I, first language is both French.
- Wow. - So, we went to a French immersion school in LA. - In LA. - Okay, that's where you're born and raised, right? - Yes.
- We are LA down. - Okay. - And, uh, we went to a French immersion school, let's call it, Lila, and say, from K through second.
My brother went a little longer.
“Um, and so, I think, because we went to that school,”
which was, honestly, the smartest thing I always say, the best gift my mom gave me was another language, because we're both still fluent, and it was, it's honestly the best best gift, because she gave us, you know, the world in that way.
- I didn't realize, and I, I was so angry that we had to let speed in. (laughing) - I was like, this is so, I appreciate it. - Oh, my God, I appreciate it so much.
And I was also mad because my girl, we live in California. - Yeah, we're back home, right? - Yeah. - And she was like, I just want you guys to be different.
Mark move. - Yeah, just move. - I just wanted something, and it's still to this day when I say, I speak French everyone's like, oh, yeah. They give us low fringe. - Oh, I hate what people do.
(laughing) - Well, I, I just, I would love to just react. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language)
- Okay, I know a little first. I can, I can hear you. - Which of my name is Lucky, I'm from Los Angeles. And what's it say the last thing again? - I just, no, in French.
I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry. What is it? - Just be sorry, I'm happy to be here. - I'm happy to be here. - Yes. - Wait, you understand, friends? - Yeah.
- I didn't know that. - I spoke French for a long time. - You ate that. - I just can't speak it anymore, but I can understand it because I took French for a long time too. I used to don't have to speak it, but when you don't use it, you lose it. - You absolutely ate that.
That was amazing. - Thank you.
- Wait, that was really impressive. - I didn't know that. It sounds beautiful. - I used to go for the French for a long time too.
“- Have you ever been to France? - Have you been there?”
- Yes, many times. - Oh my gosh, I know they love you. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I know how many they are. - And I love you. - When you can speak, when you can speak French for a long time. - When you can speak French, they love you.
- I know they love you. - I know they love you. - Here you are. - I know they love you. - Yeah, I actually, I love, I feel like it's kind of like a second home. - Because we also went to French school in France. - Oh, for how long? - Yes. - Oh, I love that opportunity.
- My mom would send us there every summer. - Wow. - So she wasn't playing. - So how many years did you go? - Every year. - Until when. - Until I was 18. - Wow. - She was not playing at all. - She was the seller. - She was the seller.
- She was the seller. - She was the seller. - It was like, othering, but so fun. - So I mean, well, we went to the French preschool. - Yeah. - And I was crying, I both, where the only black kids, as well as the only American kids. - Wow.
- So most people, when they send their kids to an immersion school, they're usually francophoneian, which means they're parents are from some type of French, like Canada or the Caribbean, or some places in Africa or whatever. - Okay. - Most of those kids parents were French,
but ours, like my mom's from like, my mom's from English.
- Yeah.
And I think we just kind of felt a little other. I definitely was other than so I didn't make any friends. - Okay. - And I'll make you feel. - Yeah. - That's been... - Was dive into that. - Yeah. - Being able to make friends, like that's hard.
- Yeah. - I was also so shy. And so I just didn't, I just didn't really... I just didn't have any friends. I don't know if I necessarily... If it necessarily clicked to me like that, it was like, I was very shy in public,
but I was also really sprightly kid when I was at home.
- Right. - And I'm always, I'm always really happy.
- Yeah. - Like so I don't... It wasn't anything that I really got down on myself for. My mom is such a writer, and so she would come to... She would come eat lunch with me every day. Like every single day. - Wow.
- And so I think that...
“I think that maybe mine tricked me into not even realizing that I was friendless.”
- Okay. - And then we had switched over to American school. - Okay. - And so I felt a lot more just at home. - At home. - In there. And yeah, I just kind of blended right in. I started to become a little bit more...
You know, whatever, but I was always really... A really curious child. Okay. I was always really artistic. I was really into drawing, really into painting.
I was always... I used to sculpt a lot. - Wow. - I still do. I love sculpting. Do you have some... just in your home, where you live, just some of the designs you made? - Like some things? - Yeah.
I make little things. I used to make a lot of humans. And I don't know why anyone didn't think it was weird. Because I would make, like, naked. I don't know why I thought that was weird. I mean, there would be, like, body parts and, like, eyeballs.
And I'm not quite sure. It looked a little, like, strange. And I guess you saw it all laid out.
“And I'm like, "I don't know. I'm, like, seven."”
I don't know why anyone was like, "Why is she like... - Me, me, me, me. - Yeah. Or, like, I used to draw... As a young person, I used to draw, like, naked people. - Okay. - And no one thought to raise an idol.
- Like, so interesting, though, because that's such a young age. - It could have turned into an imagination case. - Right, right. - I know. - It's true. - It's true.
- It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - It's true. - No one raised an idol.
I remember. I remember. I was like, "Oh, good job." Like, you're being a creative soul.
- Yeah, always very creative.
I then got into dance. I was a competitive dancer, like, my whole life. I was always like singing. And my mom was like, "We need to get this baby some singing classes." - So she was like, "She needs to sing." - She needs to sing.
I always, like, there was always some type of form of art going on. - Okay. - But I think I really found, like, my home in dancing and dancing became, like, my life for, like, a couple of years. I was absolutely obsessed with it. But the French schools, like, I was saying,
"She would send us there every summer." Or, "When summer we went to Canada, we went to Montreal." - Okay. - It just had to be a French-speaking place. And then she also always kept French inside the house. So she would have someone come, talk to us all day every day.
So she basically made it so we only talked to our parents in English. - Mama wasn't. - She was really not playing.
“- But you have to do that because if you don't, you will lose it.”
- You will be like, "That's quite a lot." - That's quite a lot. You can't speak anymore because I got out of practice of speaking. - She was super enthusiastic. - Yes. You have to do that. You have to be immersed in the language to speak it. Like that. Like how she's speaking.
- But now that, do you practice the same way? Are now that it's pretty, like, engraved in it? - Yeah. - I don't practice the same way. I think I, once I got to college, I just, 'cause my brother and I don't live in the same house anymore.
So we didn't even speak to each other. - Okay. - Any more. Occasionally, I would get on the front with my friends and have a conversation. But it's one of those things now where it's like, "Every time I go there, and I'm there for a couple of days, it just kind of comes back."
It's not really something I think about on the regular.
But I was always so upset that we would have to,
because I mean, also in California, the other language that you learned in school is usually Spanish. And so I remember like, we had to do like Spanish and Latin classes. And my mom told the school, they're like, "They're not doing that." She was like, "They're gonna do French."
And the school was like, "Oh, we don't offer French." And she was like, "No, my kids are gonna be doing French." So at any time, the whole class would go in to take their Spanish. Spanish class, we would go do. You know, we would go French.
She would have someone come there. And she was super not playing. I see that stuff like this is so intriguing to hear, because it is. So what did that teach you? Just going through like learning French classes,
which is not something, I mean, we have French classes school, but you were a completely immersed in it. So that experience, and then the lack of friendships,
What did that teach you about yourself?
I think, I mean, honestly, I feel like something my parents both instilled both into all of their children was just that it's not that it's just okay to be different, but that we were different. Okay. Then that we were, because my mom made it so that we were unique children.
Yeah. And so where that was something that you kind of feel like. And I would kind of get timid about telling people, I spoke French, or I would get timid about telling people about certain accomplishments or this or that.
My mom was just like, no, it's something for you to be proud of. Don't run from it. Yeah, it's absolutely something for you to be proud of. Like even when I, even in the French school, being American,
my mom, it was never a thing of like, well, I'm without something.
It was just kind of like, I'm, I am just too, it was always positioned in a way where it was like, I have something that someone else is not understanding and that's okay. Yeah. And like it never, it never made me feel super other than that way,
because I was just like, oh, it's just not for them to understand and it's not for me to try and get them to understand. You know, type of thing. Yeah. And so it wasn't really something I, I thought about too much,
“but I think I've carried that along with me.”
It's like, I'm just, I'm in the package that I'm in. And it's not for me to like, I love it. Make someone else. Yeah. That's beautiful.
Let you know that it's such a young age. Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. So when does lucky feel the most free?
Ah. That's such a good question. Oh my God. Hmm. On the dance floor.
I don't know. Okay.
I think, um, what do I feel the most free?
I mean, I think I try. I, I try to wake up and do my best and feel my best every day for you. And some type of little moment. And like, sometimes it's not like, it might, it might be like in the car or, you know,
in between walking to classes. If I had like that one certain song on and like, I just, you know, the energy foam writer, you know, I meditate a lot. Sometimes it's when I meditating.
But I do try and chase that freedom every day. I think. Yeah. Good for you. So it's not super designated to one.
One place. But yeah. I'll say that. I love that. Again.
It's much wisdom. It's so, yeah. Arge is very wise. I mean, twenty two. I was not.
I didn't have that same mindset. It was beautiful to not. I know. Yeah. So tell us about some of the challenges that you faced.
You know, in your younger years. You're growing up in the, the, such an entertainer's household. Yes.
Right. Your mom. I mean, I can tell we can hear how your mom was rearing both, you know, your siblings and yourself. But like, what is it like?
What were some of the challenges that you, did you face that you can? I think you got through. You know what? I feel like.
Well, there's definitely. There's definitely the whole, you know, race bit of it. I mean, we lived in the valley. And so, because that we went to a lot of predominantly white schools.
Okay.
And that's always its own thing.
Mm-hmm. Like being in, you know, just spaces where you don't necessarily feel like. You fit in.
Not just like you fit in.
“But honestly, like that you're kind of like tokenizing.”
That you're seeing too much. Yeah. Okay. Honestly, like you're just kind of like, you know,
I remember like people like playing with your hair. Oh. Oh. I know it's so bad. And then feeling like,
feeling self conscious about my hair. They're feeling self conscious about your hair. Or I was like, Oh, you were feeling. Okay.
Got you. Yeah. Or just real. You know, just, I just think I was different.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or just, you know, things like that. I mean,
I'm a shirt a lot. Okay. Or then most people. And then I, I would kind of feel like. My hips are a little bigger than everybody else's.
I had that too. I did. Exactly. Just like everything. I was like,
Okay. And like, you know, because I, like, we were growing up in that,
like, like, like that age of like, like, the Kim case and like,
The Nicki Minaj. So it's like, When I got a butt, like, Yeah.
It was everyone's like business. And I got a butt. It was like, Christine. You know,
and then I felt, I was like, oh, like, that's a little weird.
That's so interesting. Because it's polar opposite for us. Because I mean, I grew up in Katie Texas. Right.
Where everyone was this,
This big,
very narrow.
So we had hips in a butt.
It's like, It was weird. So I was, I was, I went to a predominantly.
Yeah. And fifth grade. I got my, I was a rail and then over the summer. Yeah.
My hips and butts. And I got stretch marks. Yeah. And I remember, I was like,
in the locker room or in the, like swim parties. Everybody was like, Look at me because everybody else was still, they were white girls.
So they were still white. And I had developed. And they were looking me like, Yeah. Yeah.
And I felt, I felt so horrible about myself. Yeah. Because I was like, Why?
Why do you have a butt? Yeah. I have stretch marks. I'm like, I'm not grown.
Yeah. It just happened overnight. And I remember feeling like that. I remember feeling so horrible. Yeah.
And you just feel so undisciplined. Yeah. Because again, there wasn't very many other black black girls. Yeah.
So it was no one else that, because share, you know what I mean? I thought it was just like, oh my God.
Yeah. Yeah. That's a horrible feeling. No. It was a very horrible feeling.
And along with that being a competitive dancer,
“like you have to like change all the time in front of people,”
in like, you know, random rooms. And in cars, like, you know, and my mom's again, you're a little girl. Like she's like,
girl just changed. Yeah. She would tell me, I was like, you ain't got nothing to change.
Yeah. But you know, you're feeling self conscious. Yeah. I have hips now.
Yeah. I don't know where those came from. Yeah. And just, you know, it was just,
it was, it was a lot of things like that, where I was like, okay, that's weird.
Um, I mean, as a related to my dad, I don't think like, any challenges really surfaced for me.
I mean, definitely, I think, the only thing that I would, when you have a famous parent,
you know, some people do treat you differently. They do. Um, it can be a little hard.
I definitely, notice that more, you know, kind of high school college age. Yeah.
Definitely when I got to college, though, that was so clearly evidence. Yeah. On the new podcast,
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My best friend and my roommate or her name is Raquel. Her name is Raquel Justice. She's David Justice's daughter. Oh, okay.
Okay, so yeah. You were sure. Was she on your way? Yeah.
“She's actually y'all would have loved her.”
She's a man. And so she, you know,
growing up with, and she's an actress.
Okay. She just shot up Raquel. She just did Dexter. Oh, yeah. She just did Dexter.
Okay. And she's super talented. And she had a movie come out like two years ago. Yeah. It was actually a basketball movie.
Yes. So. Yes. So just. Yeah.
I'm always here. Yes. You're a good friend. Friendships. But we definitely had a conversation.
So her and I met in high school. And we became breast friends. And then we both took a gap year together. We traveled the world for you. And then we all girls just take on the world.
And then we, we decided to go to college together in room together. And we had a conversation. Because I was like, you know, nobody, when we got there,
nobody knew we were coming. Okay. And because, you know, when you like go to college, they have like those Instagram pages. And you can like, people.
Yeah. Okay. And so I think we, we just kind of had a conversation of like, so I don't think anyone, no one knows.
And we came from. I went to Sierra Canyon. Okay. And high school in Chatsworth. And for anyone who knows that school.
That's like the celebrity kids. Yeah. And so being a celebrity kid wasn't a big deal there. Yeah. Because like every bad guy is someone.
Like I, I was in class with like, Scotty Pippins kids. And like, you know, and Kevin Hart and you know, and just it was not a big deal.
Yeah. But now we're transitioning into a school experience. Where it is a big deal.
Like people have never met a famous person.
In their life. Yes. So we kind of were like, you know, we wanted to build real connections.
“And it was important to both of us that we didn't just stick together”
and belong on to one another. They're full. Yeah. Really wanted to make friends with people. And so we made it a point not to talk about our parents when we were.
You know, talking people. So if someone would ask me, like, Oh, what are your parents do? I'd be like, Oh, my mom's a customer. I never mentioned my dad.
Okay. Or if she, if someone would ask her, she would be like, Oh, my mom designs jewelry. You know, things like that. Because we just didn't want it to be a topic.
The conversation. And then obviously like, you know, month three people found out. Because like you exchange Instagram's like,
you know, whatever your dad's birthday has happened. And, you know, there are the certain people that like, you know,
act like they're a little closer to you than they actually are. Neutral. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
You know, get a little too excited. I would have like people in high school that would like, like, like,
say, like keep on inviting themselves to my home. Hmm. And like, I'm inviting themselves to your home.
And I have an open house policy. Like I'm so not that person. Yeah. Like you can come to my crib. Like it's really not that.
It's not that deep. But it would be like a thing of like, because I didn't invite them. They would tell people that I was having a party. And then it'd be like 11 o'clock on a Thursday.
And there'd be a bunch of people outside my home. And I'd be like, what's going on? So this is a boundaries issue.
Right?
So it's people who put on weight.
What on? Yeah.
“You're saying that other people would invite themselves to her home.”
Yeah. You know it. Yes. Just so that they could get to my house. And just say that they would just be like,
what's going on? And then I would explain. And they'd be like, what? And then, you know,
party was over. And it seems like there's, again, people feeling like they just have, they have the right. Yes.
Into your space. Yes. There's no boundaries. And so how knowing this and experiencing this, how did you combat that?
Because that's something I know. I personally have experienced a lot. People just feeling like they have the right to be in your space. And you don't have the right to set up boundaries. Is that something that you still deal with today?
Is that hard for you to do now? It's definitely easier in college, again, for sure, because Rock Hell and I are both like, you know,
super opening. Yeah. We were roommates and we were in a dorm.
And so we were just kind of like,
leave the door open. Like everyone can come and hang. Like I'm not like, it wasn't a thing of like, oh,
they can't come in my room. Like I was like, no, like everyone can come chill. Like I'm super like,
talkative. I'm going to talk to anyone. Yeah. And so we would get a little annoyed because in the moments where like,
her and I just went into like, watch a movie and like, just be alone. Yeah.
“Like if I'm just chillin in my room or whatever,”
and you know, people are not going to your door, like, like, I don't care.
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
I don't care. But, but you know, people do feel like, at some point,
our dorm felt like a communal space. Like, it was starting to feel like people thought, it was like, it was like the party room.
It was like, oh, you're just going to go to Rockham and Lucky's and, you know, hang out.
And it was super fun. Yeah. For that time, you know, at other times,
it's like, I just need personal space. Right. Right. Like,
Is it hard for you to say no? At that time, yes. Okay. Because I think I really
was eager to make friends. Yeah. And also sometimes when you come from, you know, nice means or you were,
you know, a celebrity, a child or whatever, people kind of think you're a person or like the things that you think.
We're just through.
“And so you want to overcompens you overcompens you.”
You overcompens you. She's super nice. Yeah. I see. So easy for people to be like,
she's, she's, yeah. She's stuck up. She's not nice.
Whatever. Whatever. And so I definitely, at that time, too,
when people were finding out that about me, also a lot of the girls were not nice to me. When I'm not to college. And I've just kind of was like, you know,
I'm like killing with kindness. I'm a person. So I was always just, you know, welcoming Linda hand.
Yeah. But again, when you're a celebrity, which I am not, but I notice from my father,
is that people feel like, it's so interesting that people do this, but they feel like they have like, they feel like they know, you know,
they, they develop these parasocial relationships with you. They watch you for years. And so they feel like they know bits about your life. And you know,
they feel like, that they can, you know, shoot the shit with you. You know,
poke fun at you and you know, do whatever. And it's kind of like, okay, what you're a stranger.
Yeah. And like, also, they, you know,
there isn't a lot of boundaries. I remember we were, my family took a trip to Morocco. And this was also when I realized my dad was famous, because I was in Morocco.
You know, you're in Morocco. Dad is a big day. Yeah, I was like,
so what? And this group of women followed him into the bathroom. No, they did not. Ooh,
what did your mom do? They weren't. She didn't do anything. She just sat. She just sat.
She just sat. She was just eating her salmon. No, she, they followed him into the bathroom.
Like banging on his stall. Like they were so excited. And my dad is so chill,
because he always understands,
you know, people are excited, but this is their moment. But that's like a crazy violation of personal space. Like that's actually wild.
You're not even supposed to be in the middle. You're not even supposed to be in the middle. You're not even supposed to be in the middle. You're not even supposed to be in the middle. You're not even supposed to be in the middle.
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Definitely that's kind of the same thing, just the crossing of boundaries.
Absolutely.
The other thing is people feel like they're entitled to that time because the moment is so big for them. If we're having a family dinner, there will be times where my dad might have taken me to dinner. I'm trying to talk to him about something serious. I got on the fight with my boyfriend. This thing, or I feel really ugly today, you're kind of a pimple.
Someone just comes up in a rub and it's never a big deal.
I'm always super happy because you don't know how long they've waited for that photo or that moment. It is kind of like a sobering moment. Sometimes it brings you back into reality.
“But I think those would be the only challenges.”
It's just definitely trying to find like genuine friendships for sure. More so an issue when I got to college. And you know, like out in the world. And then yeah, just the saying no thing for sure is a thing. It's just something I'm 35.
I recently within like the last three years learned how to do that. Yeah, so you're more. Yeah, but it's great that you're learning now. Yeah, it's great. Do you feel like people have had assumptions about you because of who your dad is? Like who you would be, who you were, who you'd become certainly.
Yeah, definitely definitely definitely definitely. I do think that people typically have like that kind of stuck up notion. It's stereotyping. Which is so far. Yeah.
Thank you so much. Yeah, but like I said, I'm just a kind of like. Well, yeah, I don't need, I don't need a lot of things. That also comes up in dating a lot too. Okay.
Okay. Because, you know, my dad is a big gift giver. And he's, you know, the best. But I think people feel like, you know, you come from all this stuff and all the cars and all of this and so guys kind of get intimidated that they can't give you that.
Yeah. And like, I'm like, that sounds terrible. I'm a pretty cheap date. Yeah. I just want to be happy.
Like I just want to be happy and fed. And so if that means we're already having it. You have it. And so if that means that the date, if getting like those hot dogs from Costco. Yeah, that's a beautiful date.
Yeah, that's so good. I have that. But they're so good. But you said you mentioned that being genuine is important to you.
So that is the most important thing.
Exactly. It has nothing to do with the material thing. The material thing. No. It has nothing to do with the material things at all.
As long as it's heartfelt. Yeah.
“That's like the only thing I care about.”
So I definitely do think that people have kind of assumptions in me that I'll be a little stuck up or I'll need things to be happy. You know, a certain way or, you know, certain things are too good for me. I'm too good for whatever and I just never even think like that. So would you ever like make the first move just because you know like, you know, he's not.
Yeah. You just like, no, you need to ask me. You need to step up. That's the thing. Girl.
Traditional. You never should. I do a cage. Okay. I mean.
I know that's my girl. Yeah. I'm not. If it. If the vibe weren't.
Yes. Okay. So vibe dependent. Mm-hm. It is not.
I don't know. It's trick.
You wouldn't slide to the DMs just now.
I can't do that. Okay. I'm good with in person combos. I can't do that. Okay.
I'm good with in person combos. I'm very much the very person.
“Like if I'm making like, I can't talk with someone and they're not talking to me yet.”
Like I'll just be like, what's your name? Oh. Okay. Yeah. Break the eyes a little bit.
Yeah. Let's just stop doing this. Yeah. But she said. Let's just do it.
They don't know how to like get it out. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just cut. I mean, you're stunning.
So I can understand it. You don't know who your father is. Like you're stunning. Yeah. You don't know who your father is.
Yeah. She's so pretty. Yeah. It's so amazing. It's so amazing.
So you helping people out. Because I know people would be like, I don't care if he can't speak to me. I'm like, oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. He just scored. Yeah. I can kind of tell when guys are afraid.
I kind of like. Yeah. So lucky. Yeah. Okay.
How does lucky. So yeah. I'll usually cut the attention. But I can't slide it into the end. That's fair.
Yeah. And that's fair. I can only get to a certain point. Mm-hmm. And then I'll like stop trying.
Yeah. Yeah. But I like to be approached right here. I think we all approach me, please. Yeah.
That's really part of. I'll make it easy. I'll make it easy. I'll make it easy too. And if like.
Men, that's part of your job. Oh my. That's your job.
Mm-hmm.
I know we're the women's movement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah. Hey. This is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clemens.
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I would never let go of that.
I would never set expectations for something like that. It's like if the universe allows for something like that to happen. Yeah. I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept.
You know, Danny McBride. Fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity. Exesuding.
I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with you. I was like, is that what you need? No. It's fragile masculinity. Yeah.
Ben still or no.
“I think there's a lot of times in out of context, people don't get it.”
Or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? Like girl, I go work the show. It's a David. Around everyone's so dumb.
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He was just so unapologetically himself, and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hauda Cotby on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, so you are a creator naturally.
It seems like it's just about it. And your dancer and you express yourself through creativity. You have a lip gloss line. Yeah, I do. Call the pretty lucky lips.
Yes.
What inspired pretty lucky lips?
Well, I had, again, like I just, there was always something creative happening in the mix.
When I was much younger, so my mom was a costumer. And she really wanted, that's actually how my parents met. Oh, yeah, they met on set because I don't know what she was, but my dad was on a show and my mom was head of costuming. And so she put on his jacket and my dad was like, you have all my jacket. And my mom was like, it's my jacket.
I'm head of costuming. And so that they kind of like met that. Oh, that's cute. It's actually really cute. But so she, you know, taught me how to show.
I would go to sewing camps and she's like, so... Your mother doesn't play, honey. No, she really is bad. She really does not play. She had us in everything under the bed.
She was so serious. She's like, you guys are going to be... You go have, you go have nothing. You have something. You have something.
Something.
And she always tells me that I need to have...
“Now she always is like, you have to have a job that AI can't take over.”
So she's like, yeah, she always tells me that always always always. She really wants me and Raquel to go to Barbara school. She wants us to be barbers because she's like, no robot can be a barber. I'm like, okay, sure. But just the way that she's thinking and the way that she is encouraging you.
Exactly. She's forward thinking. She's the best. She's literally the best. But I went to a lot of sewing schools.
And I was always obsessed with skirts. So she was like, oh, let's do a skirt line. And it was never something that occurred to me. But I just thought it was... I was really, really young.
And I thought it was cool that I could have a line of things I made. And so that kind of, you know, connected the business juices flowing in my head. I always thought, as I got older, I always thought I was going to be a creative director. And because I was obsessed with dance. Like, it was literally my whole life.
I was a competitive dancer for years. I had like one a bunch of titles. I choreographed a lot of stuff. I had like guest choreographed. And you know, I had done a lot of things I was captain of the cheer team.
Okay. I like, I, you know, used to style photoshoots for people. I used to put together concepts for photoshoots.
So I always thought that would be my eventual lane.
The guy would creative, direct choreographed, you know, shows or music videos or something. I didn't quite know how to make thought of it. How to make it a thing. I didn't really know how to do it, but I just knew I was good at it. Okay.
I knew, I knew I was good at making things look nice.
“That was the only thing that I knew in my head that I was really good at.”
Okay. And so I took a, my mom again. I'm so glad I can talk about this now, but she would make us do all these things. Or I'd be like, this is pointless. Like, this is so useless.
I don't want to do that. And then later on, it's like, this thing. That's the best thing I did. So I went to during COVID. I'm like miserable.
It's like my senior year. And she made us do this business camp. And over a year of. I love the camp. Oh my gosh.
I need to go to her school. I need to go to a camp. We need to go to Mama Camp. She's a Lorna Kyle school partner. Oh my gosh.
She always had a, I had to go to a debate camp. I had to do the French camp. And then this business camp. It was a real estate and business camp.
“She really was setting the foundation for you.”
She was not. Oh my goodness. It was an intensive. And so you got into, it was a competition. You wanted to groups and you take this bit of real estate.
And you flip it with another, with a business idea. You construct a business idea out of this piece of real estate. It was really cool. And it was through Cornell University. Okay.
Yeah. It was really, really cool actually. Yeah. But it was during COVID. So how to be online, which was why I was like this sucks.
But it would have been fun if I was able to go there. The world was shut down. Yeah. But I was like, girl, this is miserable. But I won the competition.
Stop. Yeah. I gagged. I won the competition. And then I was like, oh, like, business.
I was like, oh, that's so cool. Like, what? It was, yeah. It was really, really amazing actually. And so then that kind of, again, ignited.
I started to propel this idea for business. I got really into makeup. I actually famously hated makeup because I was a competitive dancer. And you have to wear. Oh, you have to wear that red lipstick.
Yeah. Not the red lipstick. It's so that it was Ruby Red.
Ruby Red.
Ruby Red. Yeah. Ruby Blue. It had to be Ruby Blue.
That was every dark night.
And those wings, not the wings. Yes. So I mean, the last show that we sang. It was a lot. It was a lot.
It was a lot.
“And so, and my mom would come to the competition.”
She's going to be with her little makeup. Back. Back. I'd be like, oh, girl, please don't put that on. Yeah.
I just hate it. And I also had Xima. So I had full body. Yeah. Xima.
It was not cute. And so I just would feel like my lips would get so itchy, scratching, you know, stuff off. I would feel so uncomfortable wearing makeup.
And so I just did not like it.
Okay. I eventually, when, you know, you get into high school. I was like, oh, I want lip gloss. And like, I want to start wearing makeup. Yeah.
So I would go to like the beauty store and get like clear. Like girl. Like her hair. Like her hair. Like her hair.
Exactly. Exactly.
“And so I just became obsessed with that.”
And then I just got really into makeup. I started really getting, I thought I was going to transition into doing, like, make up for film and television and like theater. Okay. And so then during my gap year, I had expressed that to my family and they're like, okay,
you should go to makeup school. So I did two, I did a cosmet, medic for use this. It was really cool. I got a cosmetic certification from a school in Spain in Barcelona. Okay.
And I was there for maybe like three, two to three months. And then I went to the makeup forever. Academy in Paris. And then I was there for a lot longer. And that one was like super intense.
And that's when I really kind of cemented everything. That was like, you like, our in school and all of my instruction was in French. Okay, let's pause. Yeah. So after you were after you went overseas and you did your cosmetology,
cosmetology, when did, when did this get birth? How soon was that? It got birthed during. So during all of you. Yeah.
So it actually was birthed during COVID, but nothing was open. The idea was there, but nothing could actually come into fruition. Because, you know, like, China was shut down. Everything was shut down. So the formulas and you figuring out how to get it into this packaging.
When did that start? That started around 2020. Actually, the time. So because I'm trying to figure out like the timeline. So it's COVID.
You're going to cosmetology school. You're learning the lay of the land. And then just stuck on your mom for telling about the French. Yes. And then she goes back.
Yes. Your in French school. Yeah. That is wild. No, she is serious.
I mean, she is serious. Well, she already, we had already been going to France and going to school there every single summer. And so we would go to school there and everything would be in French. She, we had a friend out there who would take us. She would take me to school.
I'd go to school for like three hours. And then she would just talk to me all day. And actually, the friend that we had that lived there was a makeup artist. I actually should mention that because that's actually kind of how I got into it. When I was 16, and I went to France over the summer.
We had, so we used to have a nanny in California. And that nanny had a friend that still lived in France. Okay. Is our nanny was from Paris. And so her friend that lived in France said, "Oh, when she they come out here, I'll just, I'll take her around and I'll, you know, be with her for when she's not in school."
And so that's exactly what she did. She picked me up in the morning. She took me to school. She taught me how to use the metro in Paris. Okay.
And then afterwards, we would go do her little adventures. And she would talk to me. She didn't know we English. She talked to me all day in French. And she was a makeup artist for New York.
Okay. And so that was the time when I started to see, because at that time I hated makeup. And I was a time where I started to see that makeup was really, really cool. Okay. Because I remember we went to a, she had a photo shoot to do.
She used to do the makeup for Miss France. Okay. And we had a photo shoot to do for her. And she was like turning her into a lion.
And she was doing all of this like amazing work on her face.
And it just like transported her. And I remember being absolutely amazed that makeup could do that type of magic. That type of transformation. Yeah, you know. Yeah.
And so I just, I thought it was absolutely amazing.
“Like I just thought it was the best thing ever.”
And so that was kind of, Watching her do that was kind of the moment where it started to kick in from that inspiration.
Yes, it was absolutely her.
She was story. Wow. Yeah.
And so then years later, when I was 18, I ended up going to the makeup forever school.
Okay. The idea was already in my head about pretty lucky, but there was not really a way to kick started into like formulas in this way.
“I think we had tried a little bit before I had started traveling.”
Like that summer before I started traveling. But we hadn't we hadn't found exactly what it was going to be. It was going to look actually like completely different. Okay. Like everything was.
Yeah. And then I took my year of traveling. I finished at the makeup forever academy. Got my certifications. I came back.
My mom made me go to Lash school as well. She wanted me to be a Lash tag. Like the install the. Yeah. Okay.
She, she, so. You could do pretty lucky Lashes. Yes. Exactly. No, she, okay.
She was going to do this in the beginning of a brand. Yes. For you. Yes. Okay.
Pretty lucky lips is not going to just be lips. Hopefully it's going to. Yeah. Pretty lucky. Yes.
Yes. I'm telling all your secrets. Yeah.
“Like how do you plan on how would you like to scale the business?”
Yeah. So we actually have thought about doing Lashes next. Okay. Because a lip and a Lash. Yes.
Absolutely. Okay. Honestly. Lash. Lash lips.
Yeah. Exactly. And so we're trying to kind of also in that kind of French aesthetic. Mm-hmm. A thing is well.
Something I learned from going to school out there is French women are very minimal. Very minimal. I wouldn't have thought that very very very minimal. Very chic. Okay.
Love a bear face and like a bull. It's like skin care almost like skin care. Yeah. Yeah. Very no makeup makeup.
Yeah. A little mascara maybe. And you know, maybe a cheek tint. Yeah. Like a pinch.
Just look like your cheeks at the end. Yeah. But they're very minimal. Very chic. Mm-hmm.
“And so I think kind of in that same vein.”
Yeah. The idea of how we company. That's just Lashes and lips. Yeah. It's like in that same kind of, you know, minimal aesthetic.
A very fresh. Yeah. And that's but it's classic though. Yeah. It will never go out.
Exactly. And you can have the break forever. Yeah. That's very smart. So you're building this brand on the new podcast Solita.
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How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this head? What if the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
I would never let go of that.
I would never set expectations for something like that. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine.
Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exesuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with you. I was like, is that what you need? No, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no, I think there's a lot of times out of context people don't get it.
Or even know what a circle is, you know what I mean? Like you're like, "I got to work this out." Everyone's soaked up. And fake. Bright, fake, and also not interested, or just like, "Oh, I've got my wife.
I don't care about your life." And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us.
Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show,
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Listen to Joy 101 with Hota Kattby on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What is it like to build something outside of your father? It's interesting. Yeah, you know what?
I always think about that.
Because I think it might, my roommate and best friend, I always have the conversation about being called a Nepo Baby or a Nepo Child. And that's not something that we never, it never really, we don't think of it.
Of course, people call us that. But I don't, it doesn't, it doesn't, it didn't compute
“to me that that's what I was because my father's not”
in the cosmetic space. Yeah. And you've studied and you've went to school. You've studied. You've studied.
That can't be something that's attached to you. Exactly. Because you've learned everything. That can't be something that's attached to you. Because you've learned everything.
And so yeah, I think just, I think people assume, you know, sometimes when you're, like, a celebrity child and you have like a business now that you're like not really in those meetings. And like, you know, you're just slapping your name on something
or falls on your lap. Exactly. Exactly. But it just really wasn't that type of situation. I had to be in every single meeting.
I was on every single email thread. It's still in, like, it's an obsession for me. And so, and also, I had to prove to my parents that I really wanted it. Like, my parents having a business isn't investment. Yeah.
And then gone my parents believe in me enough. But I had to really prove to them. Like, I had to make business plans and like present it to them. And be like, this is my business. Like, they're, like, they're investors.
And they took it seriously. Yeah. Like, it was, uh, it was a very serious ordeal. They had to, they really had to know that I was, I was in it to win.
Yeah. They had to make sense for them. Yeah. Because their investment is a risk. Exactly.
Exactly. And so they can get you to the door. But they can't, the work has to be done by. Yeah. One thousand percent.
One thousand percent. One thousand percent. And so my dad didn't come to any meeting. Yeah. And he's like, it's like, he wasn't, I don't even know if he knew.
I was like, really doing it. Yeah. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't like, you know, supposed to be an extension of him. And so I just think, I mean, I feel, so.
Because we always did things growing up and made things
that didn't feel like they were attached to him. Yeah. It didn't feel any different than, you know, going to a dance competition or, you know, have being in a school play or doing this or doing that.
It didn't feel any different in that sense. But I did have the feeling even at that time when I was 18. I say that, like, I'm so much older now. I was four years ago. But I say that, like, even at that time,
I knew that it was going to be big for me.
And I would took it so serious. And I was, you know, really, really hyper and excited about it. And so I was just excited. Like, I really wanted to get the ball rolling. Yeah.
No one tells you though when you start businesses that it takes a long time. And so that was the hardest thing I had to grapple with. Is that it was going to take me four years to eventually get it to where it is. Yeah. And so I just kept on, like, just praying and like,
“just hoping and wishing and honestly thank God for that.”
Because if I had rushed the process, slap something on a bottle and just, you know, put it out there. And then I would have not, I wouldn't have had the team that I had now. Shout out the team. Yes.
I wouldn't have had, you know, the brand identity and the image I had now. No. Throughout the four years, I grew so much as a person in what I liked and what I wanted. And what was important to me and that translated into the brand as well. It's like so much aesthetically.
And like nothing would have been the same. If I had rushed the process and just been like, okay, let's drop it. Because you know, you tell people, like, oh, this is what I want to do. And then they're like, oh, where is it? Yes.
And then it's kind of like, well, tick tick. Where is it? Where is it? You were building it. And you were enjoying a lot of, you know, studying and intention behind it.
Let's take a look at what she has. You know, for the sake of time, I know we have a little bit of time left.
I do want you to chew, well, first of all, tell us what we have.
Yes. The shades. And, you know, pick a shade that represents legacy. Yeah. Tell us about the formula.
Tell us what the colors are and what you got there. This is only half the line.
“Shall we show the camp, like, do we need to pick them up?”
At the end. No, this is, right. This is goddess. That's kiss me. Okay.
I believe that's, I think that's her. And then that at the end is obsessed. How do you come up with the name? Yeah. It's just a combination of me and my mom.
Yeah. Yeah. My mom is, she has, like, wig cuter. Like, name ideas, then me. Um, what was it called?
Oh, they're so cute. They're so cute. But yeah, I think it just kind of, like, they blossom just from how they feel. Like, I don't think there wasn't a true, um, kind of beam to them. I do try to pick, sayings or things that I say.
Mm-hmm. So, and just like how it feels, like, I recall this one obsessed with that color. Okay. I love it. Um, I love you.
Thank you.
“So, so before we transition into our next segment, is there a specific shape that represents legacy?”
I will say. I'm going to pick up this one. Okay. I'll say her represents legacy just because it was the first shade that I, I believe this was one of the first ones I tried.
Um, and it was important to me. This is also a color I keep in my bag at all times. Is that what you're wearing? Yes.
I quite literally always always have one of these in my bag.
It's just like the perfect kind of gold shimmer. Mm-hmm. It looks good on your face. Yeah, it does. It looks so bright.
It does. It's super light. It's really, really, it comes on. It's not even iridescent. It just has this, like, very light kind of clear, but also like coated shimmer.
Yeah. And it's also our, like, most out, like, sold out one right now. So all across your flagship color. There's our flagship color. I love that.
Where do you see this in five years? Like, what's the, what's the hope in the dream for pretty lucky lips? Is that it becomes a all encompassing beauty brand? I'd like to do body. I'd like to do fragrance.
I'd, I, I want to do it all. So in five years, I hope it that it's not just pretty lucky lips. I hope that it's, um, you can introduce it. Cheers. Cheers.
Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers to a pretty lucky lips.
Good for you, sis. You're so young, so wise, and already doing so much. Good for you, girl. Thank you guys. Yes.
Yes. Okay. So we have a segment on board to the game called impersonating greatness. It's where we ask our guests to lovingly impersonate their parents. So give us saidric. But the dad edition.
The dad edition. I don't know. There's not a real way to impersonate it. But because he has a terrible tactic of, um, taking my food.
Every time I'm eating something, he always is like, maybe let me get some.
Always always always.
So he's like, cannot, cannot have a little, a little piece of bacon. Just give me a little corner.
Like he always takes my food.
Um, so that's something.
“I would say, or a saying that reminds me of him is, um, do you want to share a steak?”
That's what he always does. Do you want to share a steak? Um, because we're the only people on our family that eat meat. Oh. So he's always like, do you want to share a steak?
Oh. You know, that's our name. Those are cute. Is there a lesson that he's taught you that has stuck? I think the lesson that he's taught me that stuck the most is definitely some dating advice.
Um, and just to not, um, ever dull my sparkle down for anyone. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely something that he always always instills in me. Um, and just to continue shining no matter, no matter what.
Um, sorry. Good advice. Married advice. Great advice. So we also have a segment on board to the game called Legacy Objects.
It's where our guests bring something small that holds a big story. And I don't that represents where they come from, what they carry with them. And how legacy shows up in everyday life. So lucky. Hmm.
What did you bring today? I brought, I don't know. I brought a photo. Yeah. But like it's on my phone.
It's on my phone. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. That was.
Girl, it's anything. It's anything that represents you. You bring in a pen. Yeah. A microphone.
We've had pictures before. Yeah. Yeah. That is a good one. Well, we have, I just think my favorite thing.
Um, ever is, I'm, I've, my family calls me like, um, like, just do like a photo album. So you see all the pictures. I take all the pictures, but I also find all the pictures. Oh, pictures. Okay.
“And I don't, I think they're always really confused.”
I was to like, how I found it. Because they're like, what, what, like, what are you digging through? You do find the, but you find these. But I really do dig because I think it's so cute. Just like to have all these old photos.
Um, but I brought this photo of my, of my brother and I sleeping on my dad. Oh. And we just look so cute. So what does that picture mean to you? I just think it's so sweet.
Yeah.
And I'm always constantly in this position with my father.
I'm always cuddling him in somewhere. Oh, look at, yes. And especially at this time, we used to take naps together. That was like our time together. Yeah, because he's always so tired.
Yeah. Because he's always, I'm pretty sure he's like, Mark electric or something. He's like always sleeping. Yeah.
And so I just think this picture is really sweet. We were, um, we were traveling here. We went somewhere for a show. And so I just think it's adorable. Yeah.
Just my brother and I represent how important family is. Yes. And no matter how busy your dad is and what he has going on. And we all know he has so much on this plate. He makes time for you.
Always. Family is children. So that's beautiful. Always always. That's beautiful.
He's the best. Yes. He died. What's one legacy that you would want to be remembered for? Like what legacy are you creating?
And what's one thing you would say to your dad? It's like a double question. I think one legacy I want to be remembered for definitely. And something that we try to pour into pretty lucky as a brand is authenticity. We talked a little bit before about being genuine.
Yeah. Authenticity is definitely like the corner and like one of the pillars of pretty lucky and what we try to do to make everyone feel like the best version of themselves.
And so something I personally always want to do is I always want to talk.
I'd like to be what's a card. Oh, I'd like to be someone who makes everyone feel like someone. Yes, no dad. Okay, yes. So I always always always always.
I just want to make people feel good.
“So I hope that that's what people are saying about me.”
Well, I'm not around. I hope that's the legacy that I leave behind. Well, you have made us feel phenomenal. In this last hour and a half like you really are a bundle of joy. And so that is a legacy that you have left with to Maranai. If there's one thing that you could say to your dad, what would you say?
I'd say, oh, I love you. And that you're so hard working and just such a chiller.
Like, I'm really glad that you're my dad.
Like, honestly, he's really, he's really truly, truly the best.
He's a really great father.
“We love Sedrick. He really is just like a big teddy bear.”
He's just the best. You know, but we also have one more surprise for you. We can't, we can't, we can't end the day without having a little bit of a surprise. So this is petrifying. Hey, what's up, big shout out, man.
Sedrick, be like any year. I just want to sing a big, commend you. Really proud of you to my daughter, Lucky Rose. Founder of pretty lucky lips and pretty lucky cosmetics. You know, you worked very hard on this project, man.
Many years of having an adoration for the world of skincare and makeup. You know, had a dream about doing this and you started to lock in on the idea. And you put that time in. You really did. I have watched you be on zoom meetings for hours to care about the marketing, the packaging.
The way that you sourced it and what you were actually bringing to the marketplace. The idea you've been through so many photo shoots and marketing campaigns and hires and non-hires and the process that it takes to build something. People don't know these things don't happen overnight. And you showed dedication to that all while being graceful and kind and
purposeful about your goals.
And although I'm doing that as a college student. So I'm proud of you. You're great, you're strong. Your friendship group is great. Your smile is radiant.
Your attitude is positive.
“And yet you are building something that will be legacy for you.”
You've got your name on it. And you care about it. It does represent that. So congratulations to you. Keep up to good work.
Keep being a great example. Keep letting that light shine from deep within size you. And you go forth and you do great things. I love you. I love you.
You know, I do. You know, I'll be having favorites but come on now. When it's always inside. I face. I love you so much man.
I'll be great.
Hope this podcast is great.
Mariah. Keep rocking. No man. Your dad is my dog right there. But again, I appreciate that.
Born to the Game Podcast. This is hot. I love what it's all about. Again, you continue to describe and let your own light shine. And become your own individual.
Start in this world. I love it. All right. God bless. I lucky.
All right. I hope. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. I love him. I love him. I love him.
I love him. I love him. When I saw his little face, I was like, I'm a man in trouble. No. I love you so much.
She loves you so much. And he even just to wrap this. You work extremely hard. Yeah. And that is something again.
The biggest stereotype about children in this industry is that everything is handed. And Tamara has mentioned it. Our dad's and your mom can help you get into a door. But it's still up to you to to work to stay in there. To navigate those relationships, to network, to work hard.
And that's what you're doing. You're you're studying. You're trying to run a business. So good for you. Keep going.
We're so proud of you. Thank you. We have a support system. You have a village who's there to help just continue lifting you up. So you're doing the thing, girl.
You're so beautiful. And thank you for joining us. This is such a beautiful one. Thank you guys for having me. Oh my gosh.
This was it. It was so grand. You really do. You're a great storyteller. Yes.
This is beautiful. So I hope you're not nervous. Next time you get on the couch. I hope this is something you're used to. Because you're.
We'll get an actual. That's what I'm saying. You're a natural. You're a natural. Thank you.
All righty. Thank you for joining us today. I'm more into the game. I'm your host Maya. And make sure to like, follow, subscribe, share.
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