What I want to do is not to be a student.
The master of the club's laptop is soft, but the internet is so much fun.
I'm saying, you can say that you're a hero. You're a hero, right? But you don't understand. Exactly. It's just a challenge. You just do it with this story. And if you then work, you'll be able to do it.
- That's right? - Safe. This story. You're going to be a hero. Now, let's go out. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to Talk with Fleet. Feels good to be back. I've been out the studio for a little while, man.
Just want to tell everybody, thank you all for your support every week. Whether I'm in the studio or not, salute to you, the fans, man. So, we're going to say that first and foremost. Before I bring my men's since city end, I have a few different issues that I've been looking at
that I want to talk to you guys about.
“And the first thing I think I'll talk about is this.”
That press got calling and all of his engagement with his wife, because she didn't want to sign a pre-nut. How does it work? Everybody has a different opinion. How does it work? And when does it get to the point, oh, who's offended, right? So, she's supposedly that, is yacht party, joint, bachelor's party,
bachelor's party, whatever, whatever. And after the party was over, they decide to call off their wedding. Because that wants to pre-nut.
He's just $60 million a year in Nigger.
This is what he gets $60 million a year. I don't know, with sure he was doing, I haven't done any research on her. But if he's actually for a pre-nut, I'm pretty sure she ain't making $60 a year. So, she's offended from what I'm assuming that DAC were acts for a pre-nut.
But if I'm DAC, I'm offended that you offended. How you going to get offended, because I have something that you don't have. And we've seen all these cases of everything going on. Whether it's child support, whether it's Alan Moni, everything else.
“Look, what does love have to be such a big business, right?”
For me, personally, I don't really believe in marriage, because my love shouldn't be defined by a piece of paper. Why are we going to go to a courthouse to sign a piece of paper for me to say that I love you?
That's first to foremost. That's just me.
I can't do that. If I love you, I love you. If I don't, I don't, we get to print with shit as well. You go the other way, I go my way. That's right, you got to be careful too, with squatters rates. This live with you three, four years.
Next thing you know, she get in me or next thing you know. Some type of way, she has a right to something, even without the marriage. Be careful, Joe, fellas and ladies, whoever's up. Make sure you pay attention to the Lord of Singapore. But back to that, I just don't understand it.
It is, you know, I saw them on my man Tony Beck. I watched my man Tony Beck on page a lot. And he's right, marriage is a business man. It boils down to being the business. And this is where he has said, not thought about it.
It's a business. You don't want to sign a pre-nope, but you love me.
“If it ain't about the money, why not sign a pre-nope?”
You know, I know somebody close to me, right? And they recently got married. And this has nothing to do with money. But this is the things that women say. I say, "Yo, how's the marriage going?"
She says, "I just been more naggy lately." I say, "Why?" I say, "Cause he can't leave." [chuckles] [chuckles]
I said, "Well, cut." And my brain, I was thinking, "Yo, what kind of shit is that?" Yeah, I'm a nag just nigger, 'cause now, he's not my boyfriend. He's my husband. And if we can't talk, I mean, he can't just get up here.
This is the shit that be going on in females' minds. So listen, shout to you, Doc. Don't feel bad. Don't let anybody tell you you did the wrong thing. 'Cause I'm pretty sure you got advice from the big homie.
Javie Jones. I'm pretty sure you have financial advisors around you saying, "Look, do not do this." Michael Jordan, get married, right? Michael Jordan, get married back in whatever year,
80s and 90s, whatever. He was six weeks into the marriage, and his wife got an investigator on him. What kind of love is that? If you hire a prominent investigator,
I mean, six weeks into the marriage. So that means, even if Michael Michael was fucking around, he had to be doing it before the marriage.
What she did?
She said, "This thing is cheating on me."
Okay, cool. Come on, marry this nigga. Then get the private investigator, the catch them cheat, so I could get paid, and benefit, or for his cheating.
This was pre-meditated. This is just a tax allure. Don't let nobody for make you feel bad about it. Marriage has been this quote from Tony Baker, but I'm offended that she's offended.
And I just want to leave it to that. And I want to shout out, Doc, and more players are athletes and entertainers and take heed to the pre-nut, because if a woman loves you,
they should be ready to sign it, and says, "My love has none to do with financial gain." Secondly, I had this credit. Think about all the perks you would've got. He gets 60 million.
He might, you know, spend two, three mil more. You pocket books. I got to go to the mall. Y'all need this. I need that.
“You want to pocket it at least a low milk to milk per year?”
Just don't be in his wife. But no, no, no, that's not enough. I want to have, I want half of everything. I want nothing. You bitch, you wasn't want me shooting in the gym?
No, man. No, man. Shut the deck, man. Not first and foremost.
Second thing I want to talk about.
We've seen a video resurface over the last week or so. I don't know if it's his wife. I don't know who it is. I don't know I did, but the white house baby mother, or his girlfriend, or his wife,
significant other. And she's holding up a bag of cocaine. Talking about, this is the problem. This is the problem that we wait. This is what I fucking lose about fucking merits to this.
This is this. This is right here. I throw everybody. Y'all got to help him. Do you see how much cocaine that is?
That's a ridiculous amount of cocaine. For a person to have it. I know certain things are taking that. And they go into it. They trying to go to the bar.
They flipping that.
I don't know how much money the way I was saved up,
but for a person who used. That's damn near brick a cocaine. She holding up. Got to be. I got to be over half a kilo.
Minimal. And it seemed like she highest it, too. But what did you say? How many kilos you got in the house to steal that?
“Getting the car hold up a half a kilo or more than half a kilo?”
On Instagram. And still the highest fuck, too. Listen, we heard these rumors from the whites of the baby. Mother. And now from this girl.
But this girl actually bought evidence of cocaine. A lot of cocaine. Shout to the way I would, man. You know, it's been, it's a shame that we're seeing the way I would in this light. Because he was such a great player when he had, when he, you know, when he played
or a little magic, even when he went to the lake. But we tend to forget that because about how bad people look after their career. This don't look good, man. What I will say is this, man. If, if that's pretty, go.
Some, those two might need to get white twice them out, though. And when I say pretty, I mean, the highest quality of cocaine. It's the right thing. A fourth, the highest quality of cocaine. And look pure.
Look pure from the back. Because obviously, you see a sniff none of it. She caught a contact because she looked highest fuck in the video. I just want to point this out and say, do I get some help? If you could.
“If you enjoy yourself, enjoy yourself, but get your business under control.”
She should not be on Instagram with a half a kilo of cocaine. Telling your business that you have a cocaine problem. Now it's a device credit. He blamed everything on her. And maybe, okay, I just don't think she can afford that amount of cocaine.
I was expensive. If it looked even if you get in the wholesale, it's expensive. But he discredited her. Got his kid back. Got how to pitch it.
So everything that looks like it's her fault. I don't know where he did to do that. Another smart move for the fellas fell is up to today. She crazy. She or a lot with the cocaine.
That's not my cocaine. Give me my child. And put this bitch in rehab. These are the person questions that we got to take. No disrespect to the lady's city girls been up for five years straight.
I'm just giving this shout out to the fellas for this week. Prena, blame her for the cocaine. We up to. We up to this week. We've been down bad, but we up to this week.
Lastly, I want to talk about driving in America. When you're white and you're driving, everything is just, you know, I don't think white people understand where black people go through. This is part of what Colin Kaepernick was trying to stand up for. And I'm not saying that NFL is a platform to do what he was doing.
It's the biggest platform to do what he was doing.
I think Colin Kaepernick stands like bad because he wasn't playing good at the time. When he tried to call out on police brutality. But this isn't about necessarily police brutality. It's just about driving while in America, whether you're white, black,
“famous or empowered or half-power, I should say, right?”
So Shakari Richardson, if I'm pronouncing her name, right? You know, Nick, I'm pronouncing that name, right? The runner, Shakari Richardson, right here. In January, she was speeding in Florida. She was trying to get somewhere. I don't know where she said on the video.
We'll go to the video in a second.
She's trying to get somewhere. The officer said you're doing 100 miles per hour. And you're going to jail. She was pleading with the officer, trying to stay her case over and so forth. And they said, no, you're going to jail.
Make a phone call for a reckless driving. You're going to jail. She didn't get to accidents. She didn't hurt anybody. She was just trying to get somewhere.
And it wasn't a ticket. She was going to jail. And they actually took out a jail. Here's the footage of it. I don't know what work with you means.
I understand that I would take it. No, like I told you, you're going to jail. Listen to me. You're going to jail. She was pleading.
She wasn't being aggressive.
She didn't say anything wrong. She was crying because I know she didn't want to go to jail. I dig it. But she went to jail for speeder. Another example, another black person.
Dillon Brooks plays for the Phoenix sons. Driving. Didn't do anything wrong. He put on the signals and everything. So he says, I didn't see that we just seen the body camp footage from when he got pulled over.
The cops said he smelled a smell like marijuana in his car. Did they fire marijuana? No. They gave him a breathalyzer. He said, we'll show the footage of that in a minute.
“He says, what is my breathalyzer on the breathalyzer?”
The cops said tribus zeros. Tribus zeros. Matter of fact, here it goes. Surgery on it. Where on your hand?
There's no button linked up your wrist.
I don't know. Yeah, you're under arrest. One on her hand. What do I blow? The blue zeros, which I anticipated.
There may be a kind of car with you watching you drive. So if he's blowing tribus zeros is no marijuana in a car. It may smell like marijuana. He goes to jail. Now, the other two athletes, prime time figures.
Actually, both of them really didn't know. Dylan Brooks is very decent and basketball. Chicago Richardson's a fucking superstar. And Olympics and running in everything else that she does. Both going to jail.
One for speeding, which I don't think I think that should be a ticket. And one for assumption of being high with no proof. Black in America.
“Now, let's go to wild as Vince McMahon, right?”
Vince McMahon is doing a buck 80 on a highway. I caught, caught late. I caught caught behind in the gun. That's just behind in the, the Siren's is on. Vince is on a high speed chase.
Ducking the police. Then crash into a car. Hits a car. Hits if flies across from his car. Hits another car on the other side.
Airbags dispersed. Copsie is Vince McMahon. He said, you all right. And he problems Vince said, yeah, I was just rushing. To get to my granddaughters.
Uh, birthday pipe. Vince highs among the fucking coyote. Let's go to footage real quick. Vince highs among the fucking coyote. No.
Yeah. All right. Just your registration. Did your license in here? Yeah.
Yeah. Have a drink in this car. Quite some time. That's, I'll tell you that. So, Vince say hi.
Why? Vince say hi. Listen now. Don't get it fucked up. A lot of people don't know that the WWE is based out of Connecticut.
And they've been there for decades. This happened in Connecticut. So we don't know what kind of donations Vince been making over the year. We don't over the years. We don't know who he fucks with in Connecticut.
But this is established in Connecticut. You know, they gave it to nigga Vince. Two summons is a young man. We're going to give you a load. Breakfast driving just make a quarter pair as yada yada yada. And we'll see you in court.
And let Vince go in his way. Car total. Somebody else did this total. Another nigga who was driving on the opposite side of the road. They should got banged up.
They let Vince go.
Game two summons is then he went to court.
After the nigga went to court, they just say yo. You know what? Just pay a thousand dollar fine.
“And don't get no more car accidents in the game.”
We just go and throw this shit out. Are you good money? What the yo, my nigga? I don't know the yo. The shit is just wild because just still going on the day.
This is talking. This is what I'm saying. You can still be famous. But power matters. Power is bigger than being famous, right?
We don't know like I said, this happened in Connecticut. Not only that Vince get off.
Whoever he hit, then personal charges.
That's Vince McMahon. You don't want to sue Vince McMahon to get some bread. Now in Connecticut you better not. We don't know. Vince made it through him a brown bag.
Yo, let's keep this shit out of court, nigga. I don't know. You know a hundred thousand. You ain't heard that bad, is you. You got two custody.
They could take this hundred thousand. Sit the fuck there. That's what Vince probably did. I would have did the same thing too. From Vince and I had to power.
Maybe seven, eight years ago. I don't remember the time. The cowboys. I'm not very real quick. The cowboys.
Practice facility. Went through like a hurricane as some shit came through the tornado or something. This shit collapsed because they know it was tense and everything. It collapsed and parallelized somebody who was working at the cowboys facility. Who's now in a wheelchair today.
To the right now, he's in a wheelchair. He got paralyzed. Hey, suit Jerry Jones? Yeah, I've no problem with Jerry Jones. There's no shit happens.
It's an accident. Ain't no big deal. You can't walk a fucking night in another no more. You think Jerry say. Listen here, young fella.
You ain't going when in no court fucker with me. And Dallas, nigga, you ain't going when. nigga, I'm gonna take care of you and your family forever. There's a tragic accident. I'm sorry, you paralyzed, but don't go to court.
This is power. Sometimes, it no good be wrong, Vince McMahon. Used to be a billionaire now anymore, but he still has hundreds of millions of dollars. We already know what type of paper Jerry Jones got. Y'all, man.
Why in America were money matters? Black in America were money sometimes. Don't matter. This is the thing from when niggas used to make some joke about being rich and be a wealthy. These are two black rich athletes against two wealth.
Not against, but two wealthy billionaires.
“And that's what it boils down to, my nigga.”
Don't forget you black, nigga. And don't forget you know, because we had a look. You know, over the last few decades, we came up. We look good, we don't got some billionaires. We don't run shit.
We don't run it to take your black ass to jail for speeding. Or for having no weed in the car and not being drunk. And not doing non-roll if you want to go to jail. I mean, if you want to act like you talk and slick the police. And that situation, you'll go to jail.
I told this and it's the last thing I wrapped this up with. When you're again put over by police, I would not argue with police if you black. We don't see cops kill niggas on Facebook live before. No no cap, just literally killing niggas on TV. So to speak.
Well, you're in that situation right then and there, a cop is the judge and jury. So get it slick with a cop when you get pulled over when you black is not worth it. I know you want to fight you and do not.
Ron is that in the third.
Don't do it. Because right then and there, all they got to do is say, they felt like you was going to do Santorum. They felt threatened. That's what I was trying to say.
Don't do it, my nigga.
“So that's what I wanted to start to show over today.”
today. That press got salute. Do I? How it? I want to be sniffing that much cocaine, but salute for getting your child back and blaming it on the bits of your because she's the one on Instagram while on the half of Keylor cocaine and be careful driving black in America. So it was good, man. How you, man? Good. I like that one. I'm good, man. I'm so much. You know, you know, it's crazy. I'm so glad, man. You know, you know, this was what I'm talking about the universe. I had that
say hoodie on on leaving out to wear that to the show today. You know, I was sort of got, like you, you have picked those power, you know, my pink was power shot. Yeah, shot shot shot. And you know, look, we coming back strong, you know, we are honey, honey packs coming out. We have of course to shot, so we have gummies. Shout to sexy red and dark Johnson, you know, we've been doing the collab with them the last six months. And while we've been doing that collab with sexy
red and dark Johnson, it's just been giving me time to actually, you know, we want the rebrand and because of the honey that's coming out and because of the gummies and just give pink
Horse power whole new look, the bright, the pink shots to be back, the blue s...
Not only that honey packs and gummy nigga, nigga, nigga, you're going to fuck all summer
fucking pause man, come get the products and the merchandise to clothing. But what I was going to say is this, I want to win back home if I would have hoodie to there. I'm trying to turn out with you, but I would have been pissed off. I know you like when you told my, that's another thing, right? This nigga's sin going to tell me America, let me know which I'll think below in the comments. Just tell me up in it. He says, if I got, if I
like, let's just use a 2,026 Range Rover in black and he got a 2,026 Range Rover in black and we pull up to the club together that that's lit. To me, that's not lit. I don't want to have the same car. Now, I don't think that's lit, man. I don't want, I don't want
to have the same car, my man guy because they don't even make no sense. But if we want
switch up cars and then one day you be like, yo, you got the, you got the, let's just say the farthest green Range Rover and you pull up on a biscuit, the black joint, pause. And then the next Thursday, you pull up with the grease and the biscuit will be like, damn, how many rage over you guy? I got a few of them joints. You want to twin out? I don't get
“that. Why don't you think that's cool? No, no, I'm, I made it to where as, and I remember”
this conversation because I was with Big Fendi, show them. And man, yo, what if that's, yeah, he murdered too, because nobody agreed with me. I said yo, what if it's the last Range? Oh, not even a Range, but what if it's the last one on the lap? I ain't supposed to get it because you got the same car? Why? I want that car. But why do you make it such a severe case like it's no more Range Rover in the world? Like, yo, it's the last one in
the East and the Hemisphere. They didn't want it. I don't get it. Well, you every time you make a scenario, it got to be the worst of the worst scenario. I don't get it, man, but hey, more power to you. I don't want to twin out with you. I'm glad I didn't win that way that shirt. I'm, I'm a static, I'm proud of him. Well, he gave me, he gave me the, the new dip set, honey. So I'm going to just switch that. Okay, we, we and it got to get in the
details, but speaking of being close, but I heard you got some haters out there, man. You know, I know you don't want to talk about it, but I'm just, you know, for the people
“that's why I heard you got some haters out there. We could move on with snow, with snow,”
people ain't on everything, man. Yo, um, go back to, I want to go back to what you was saying. So wait, what if our girl got more than you? And she wanted to do a pre not you ain't down with that? Yeah, look, man, I don't matter if it's a girl or guy, whoever's up should should have a pre not if the other person's not close to there be enough. Look, I got an EP coming out for every guy value one, feature more
than your sense city. Shout out to my nigga, banging my nigga hard luck, a few other people on the EP, I'm going to put out another month, month and a half. But look, son, you, we are the song on their court. You ain't shit without me, right? And running the bars in the song that you actually say is you came here with nothing, baby. So you ain't taking mine, you ain't shit without me. So if she came here with nothing,
“baby, and you ain't taking mine, what does that say? That's his young lyrics. That's what”
you're saying. And if I'm fuck with Oprah, she ain't signing up pre not. I'm telling you now, Oprah, I'll get that shit out of my face. You know how many niggas would have got Oprah pregnant? No, man. Well, I mean, it's time to know pre not. That's what I said. If she got more than you, are you going to sign up pre not? No, but the way of being is, see, that's what I'm trying to tell you. And not only in this, he's
going to marry you. Like you have a statement. I have to statement. Everybody knows
statement. How first nigga? Have you ever see Oprah with another nigga? Ever? I'm pretty
sure you're not. Because you know, the only person to get this money, the nigga's statement when they broke up. Statement, I don't know if he built it or whatever. He put another little house in the back of the house. Like I ain't going nowhere. I have you fun. I come into this. I'm just back here. I'm over here. And I don't know the legit. I said, I'm going to do the homework or not. But the niggas statement built the house. I had it. They
already had a little house assumption and staying on the same property. You ain't see Oprah with no niggas system and I'm pretty sure she's been with a few niggas. But his niggas like you. Turn my yo. I'm not signing. I don't. I'm not marrying you. Whatever. I'm not marrying you. You see, you don't look at the benefits that you can get while being there. Instead of blowing the whole thing up and saying, "Yo, listen, I ain't signing
No prena.
But if you stay there and be like, I understand that I don't even want to get married. Let's
keep doing what we're doing. Yo, did you see that new Mercedes? 2027? You like that? It's okay. You go get that. Go get that. Okay, cool. Now, I was going to fly everybody in town because I know it's job birthday and it's my birthday. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everybody can stay up there at the area. Everybody, nigga, the benefits why you fucking with somebody who got that type of people. You're willing to ruin that over a prena. You might get more. Listen, man.
You know what, you know what that is when you know it's on the prena. But you with somebody, you got franchise tags for the year. Get your franchise tag money, nigga. They got
“my character. I think I think I'll take me in franchise tag for this year. You might”
make this as much as you made that one year that year if you got married and scheme don't get into voice. All you did was stay up boyfriend and you franchise tag. You may end up
with another three, four million in merchandise and pocket money and everything else by just
saying, okay, I understand. I don't you. I did you want to prena. Well, let's figure this thing out for another year. You ready to blow the whole spotter? No, I ain't doing. I'll take the franchise tag. Look at you giving out all this free information. You had it. Dr. Cam show. Yeah. Well, Ivan. You didn't. You did some shows. Ivan, man. Yeah. It's Dr. Cam show. I might bring it back. I might bring it back, man. You know, you write it all this
free consultation. It's crazy, man. This is free consultation. So, you absolutely write
“me, man. I might do therapy for people. I might be a judge. I'm a guy. I've all traced”
I'm here. I do late night TV as well. So, I'm be on the lookout for that from my late night TV show. Got a lot of things coming out this summer. I see. Yeah. Mason's doing the morning shows. Mason is waiting for going to be doing morning shows this summer and then I'm going to be doing late night television. So, we're going to corner the market, man. We'll see how it goes. I see. Do something with boxing. You got in the vent coming out. Yeah,
it's 28th. Yeah, man. Well, shout to you, Sinson and my man, Kenneth and PBC. Shout to Sam. I'm hanging all the people over at PBC. Sinson has been putting this together. I'm not just this event. Not just this event. But for the last four or five months we've been working with PBC as soon as literally been a bridge to put all this together. So, thank you. But yeah, we have Keith Thurman versus Fondora and that'll be on the 28th. But, you
know, first of all, it'd be on 28th prom, paper view, PBC, shout to y'all. We're going to
talk about that way more leading up to the fight. But I just want to point out how black Niggas, you know, find a way to get their credit. Sinson threw that in me so I could throw it back to him, pause. Let Niggas know. You know, Niggas know when I'm going behind the scenes. You know, Niggas know I'm bustin' moves out here with PBC. This is what black people do. Instead of him to say, you know, I put some shit together with PBC. This is how he
does it. Shout to Ken, shout out to our Hayman, shout out to my Niggas Sam for Dora, Keith Thurman. We want to talk about it much, much more in the show because we got another week before comes out. But Sinson, you credit holders, you know, I'm overflowing with it. Everybody in the control, Sinson, and I'm throwing it back. I said those. I'm overflowing with it. That was that that was wow, bro. I am overflowing with that pause. That was I'm throwing it back on
them just crazy. Yo, Nick, can we see a little control real quick? No, I just keep it in the control, keep it in control because I want y'all opinion on this. And I can, I can lose. I can, can I want to, I want to say, okay, cool. I was, I was pause. I said pause though, and he's overflowing the pause. Can I overflowing that? You get one over
“room a week, so if you want to overflowing, fine, I said pause. You get overflowing. You”
get overflowing. I have no problem with that. But I want to ask, that was wow, that was wow. I think Sinson, and I want to go in the control room, but I will ask in the comments. That was wow. But Sinson's permanent pause is last name is. This is walking, he's walking around with a pause for life. This is a permanent pause. His last name is just like you're just going to try to play. He's like, how the last name is. You send though, why would you, why would
You play the game?
Nick, the sleep of my name out, though. That's wow. That's wow. You just say pause every time
you talk if that's the case. Hey, tell you, boy, I do y'all. You think so. No, you don't have to play. You don't have to play. No, you really don't have to play. You really don't. You know, your shirt is like, yeah, well, your green mother's on dry. You don't have to play, my nigga. I've played pause before and I digress. We can move on. I digress. You know, speaking of love, whatever happened, was, was, did you take love and hip-hop to
cool it? How did you talk about it a while ago? Why have I been with that? Take them. And why did you want to say love and hip-hop? Why did you want to have a lawsuit against them? I don't know that. Oh, no, you got it. But what was the scenario was on the show or somebody that I would ask? Yeah, yeah, you was with your ex. And then you did a scene with
“you out. And then you said, I think you did a scene probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah, maybe.”
Some of these questions I should probably, you know, I like answering them spontaneously. I should probably get some of them before because I'll be doing so much and I don't be remembering. But from from the sounds of which you're saying, if I remember correctly, it's a little foggy now that I'm thinking about it is that they took advantage of their friendships. So like you said, I had a girl friend on that guitar. My home boy on
Joel's was on that guitar. I knew Yandy and Mandiceo, whoever, I don't know if Mandiceo was on the show yet. And what happens is they pay these people per episode for being on the show. Shout out to them on the sky. You know, I love them. I love what she's done. You know, I'm putting the show together on very brilliant women, work with Chris Lighty back in the day, very smart. But and this is not a shot of how it's just how business
to be done. When people have relationships with people, they say, oh, we could get
“care. And that's how boyfriend or we could get care. And that's his friend. We could get”
care. He worked with Yandy. Yandy and my ex and jewels were getting paper out of the show. Why don't I get paid? I'll splice this shit out. Thank you. Use me for the commercial because I don't do shows like that. You know what I'm saying? So Niggas is like, Kim or love it. Hey, Bob, you looking at that for the commercial. Oh, shit. Kim or love it. Hey, Bob. So you tune in in. I hope the rate is. I can't get paid. And then when I'm calling
to get paid, you probably was carving like I said, I don't remember all the off top of my head. But from what you tell me, this sounds about right. Using my relationship with the people that I deal with or business with or friendship with. As promotion, if everybody to get paid for it, but me, he's going to call it that simple. It can't work like that. You know, can't do that. Can't can abuse my relationships for your benefit. It doesn't work
like that. I always want to ask you because being that, you know, you work around so
“goddamn confident. You have to add a start struck moment. Star struck moment. Hmm. Yes. Yes.”
But I didn't act crazy. So where. So where. Um, I look star struck. I'm not a control myself force. Um, I think when I first met biggie, pause, it was like kind of amazing to meet biggie, because it's biggie, you know, I'm saying, not only did I meet biggie, I met biggie, super duper forces and his bedroom in the bed with two to two girls. And when I wrap for him, he's took me there. And you know, when you're aspiring to want to be a rapper,
and you go to a condo, what a elevated in a personal elevated in the condo, like Frank Wright. And when you get up stairs to the bedroom, pause, it's two chicks in the bed with the rapper. You like, oh, this should just ain't TV. This really wouldn't fuck they be doing. So it wasn't necessarily just me and Biggie, which was definitely a blessing to meet and to rap for. But it was the whole scenario of this mystique of what a rap life rapper's lifestyle should be. And that
day, that looked like what a rap is lifestyle was supposed to be according to all the things that I see leading up to that moment. So, uh, yeah, I wouldn't say stars struck. I was like more excited.
When I see knives for the first time, I'm like, oh, shit, that's nice. I've met knives
After the first time I've seen knives.
lengths grew up there. I was, I should say, I lived there for a long time too. And I was walking to McDonald's one day. And there's a restaurant called Pampere on a 135 different lengths. And I was
walking from my block there and this probably had to be 90. Whenever the barbecue came out, his first
shit came out, he didn't even have an album yet. I don't think. And I see them and I'm like, oh,
“that's what he's like, that's the thing that we said, I go to hell for snuffing Jesus, you know,”
you know, I'm back then I'm lost. Yeah. Um, yeah, he was, yeah, back then, you know, I'm saying, I'm like, you know, but I'm just saying, I see him, I see him. And he's on the pay for in front of Pampere. And I'm looking like, you know, I look like that Knowscare. So then I can't walk in with then I stop. Probably like, I would say 20 feet there and just chilled
on the car, like, you're not smiggered. Not much, not much, not much. Then I didn't even go to McDonald's
went back to his 40 if just to see if that was him. And it was him, want to pay for him, 1305 for Lennox. But I ain't saying that. And then they got just went back to 40 because I like, I can't walk back again to go to McDonald's. Because now I'm a look mad, obvious to keep walking
“paths. But I just really want to see if that was to nice make it. So those are two people that I was”
like impressed to see when I seen them. But I didn't lose my cool. I don't think I ever seen anybody and lost my cool look. You was there, son, you know, Janet Jackson called me to the section. You know, I'm saying, I was like, yes, you pushed me and my back get over there. You basically would say, like, how are we? Get the hell over there, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a little penny for us, you know. But that's a little penny from good time, Janet Jackson.
That's Charlie, that's, that's Will is girlfriend on different strokes. You know, like, yeah,
yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I've seen a lot of people, man, and I never, I never,
I learn that from me. I ain't gonna lie. Maces are cool, fucking character. What a lot of
“us. It's been times where I'm been like, you know, not publicly cited, but next thing like,”
I can't think of none verbating them, but I'm trying to think of a moment when he told me I'm wild. Like for instance, I used this one just, just off the top, like, around tojo around for biggie. And biggie was like, yeah, you're getting out around the moment, what you want? And I'm like, yeah, I want 250, and I want that. He's like, I ain't cool. Do you think it's like cool? And cold is, is shout out, it's cold enough. So I want to sign this kid and this what he want. And so when we walk in
out the house, I'm like, yo, gee, I'm burning. I busted out the, you know, you know, we killed it. Thank you so much. He's like, can't, don't ever say how much you want, right there. Yeah, I've got more. What do you, don't do that again? Right. Well, I got six dollars in my pocket. I don't know, they think it's setting them good to fit me. Yeah, you know, I'm doing that, don't can't. I don't die far, murder. I, if you ain't, I, far. I'll take my sit-in til I see somebody on the
block and let them me and them be hype about it. But yeah, Mason's real cool around a lot of people, and I kind of learned that from him that, you know, you got to beat him, they go when you walk in the room, whether you are or not, if you think everybody else start thinking it, whether they like it, they don't like it. My moment was rock him and Mike Tyson. Those are two. I didn't lose my cool, but I just kept staring at them to think I ought to my side. So I thought that was a little
star-shockish. And I'm okay with that. I'm cool with that. But yeah, um, academics just posted the big-out documentary, his brother sitting there talking, "Look fire, by the way, you know about that?" And I'm like, "Oh boy, it comes some more problems. Did you know about it?" Now I actually didn't know about it, but listen, man, I tried to put suddenly every years ago, the story needs to be told. You know what I'm saying? For me, it's not me being a part of it.
It's about actually telling the story. And it's really deep, pause. I'm talking about our neighborhood history. And I understand that there's a lot of, uh, how should I put a house out of where? I understand that there's a lot of people who's not
Here anymore.
But look, everybody's making this older than me. And you got one foot in the ground, now
me now in a disrespectful way. But if you don't tell the story, you was going to happen, isn't it? In another 20, 30 years, somebody else going to tell it for you. So sometimes I was to put your feelings to the side, talk it to the older niggas on my black. Who probably still don't fuck with each other, I got a problem with each other. Put your feelings to the side. We understand that people are not here anymore. And it was,
you know, murders and everything else. But, um, as long as nobody's going to jail, I die in again. I think the story should be told because it's a big-out story, but more than big-out, it's a neighborhood story. But big-out is the focal point of that neighborhood that dangerous or NFL, everything else. Because I'll then get a fair shot in music, because he was so legendary as a lyricist. Everybody should put their differences to the side and do the documentary.
I'm happy to, you know, last time we spoke, I'm not sure of a me and Dar, and I'm not sure,
“who, that's what you try to talk about. Dar, uh, not saying we have the best relationship,”
but the worst relationship, I don't have a problem with him with, so ever, I know that sometimes people in the neighborhood may get mad at me because I tell my stories of what I see and what I know. Maybe I can't say it too much this time. And then they go 50, I'm gonna say my one, what I see. You can't tell me not to talk about my story. And a lot of times my story is not their story. You know, I'm saying I was talking to, I won't say the name, I was talking to, um, you know,
one of big-outs friends, which was not saying I ain't big-outs friends, but somebody closer to the big-out than me. And I was saying they yell, bro, you guys are really, really put this together, because it's a great story to me. And there's no district disrespect whatsoever. But the story is more interesting if you do it the right way than pay them for. It's like, because you'll be like,
“get the fuck out of here. No, that ain't happening. Well, this ain't happening. No, you serious?”
And pay the four we all know is a call classic in urban America. But this story if is done correctly and told the right way of people like lying emotional to me is way, way more interesting. So, um, so I did darn, I don't have a problem with darn, you know, I see them a few times. I didn't see them, I see them a few blogs like, okay, I'm missing care of them now. Well, I grew up with Darwin, and I got a lot of respect for him. I'm happy he's putting it together and finally getting some
structure on big-out stories. So, hopefully it is good. Oh, okay. Um, um, the, the, the, the classic derogged track on your first album, Confessions of Fire. What a misgeet, rest in peace, do or say to you when she heard it. What was her reaction to that song? We remember how the conversation about that song.
Me and one more, we actually never ever really talked about it. She had reactions to other
songs when I said, I was going to slap her at the first. She definitely had reactions to say, "Oh, keep believing this shit, K, I'm talking about." He's talking about, he slapped me one day, yeah, she is. So, so, um, you know, it's been a couple of songs. And not just with me, I see, you know, my mom would have a real, real big social media presence. So, I see her in the comments and sometimes
“somebody will be quoting her. I think it's the song, um, damn, to come home with me, um, with Jim and”
Joelle's on it. I say, "Come home with me when my mom went through a way my crack platter. I got mad, so I'm back slapped." She said, "Yeah, yeah." She said, "Yeah, y'all need to believe anything. Y'all, it wouldn't have been no camera if it didn't get you to try the back song." But as far
as the song, he rugs, I never talked about that song because to me, and, you know, I'm not going
to say and go to Daven to Deep Home. But my mother was on drugs at the time in life, you know, I'm saying. And when I wrote that story, it's based on a true story. Um, I wasn't, you know, so I'm put this. So basically, this time I went, right, I grew up my mom and my uncle was in that, my other grandma, I'm 40 different lengths. My grandmother died, and I'll fairly least kind of split up. And my mother got caught up on drugs for a while, so I moved to the east side
with my other grandmother. Um, and, not saying, I always say the contact with my mom, I want to see
Everything else so on and so forth, but she started using drugs.
but not till after probably I was like 27, 28, I bought a house in Jersey and moved in the
“Jersey. She didn't want to move in the shit because she's so all, or she didn't want to go,”
just sitting there for a while. So I turned it into a studio, uh, stroke club, everything else. There was a two-family home, but she ended up having a stroke. And I was like, "Yo, mom, you cannot keep running around. Hold on like that." She still worked around, so I forced to move to Jersey so I could take better care for. And that's kind of where I, me and her relationship blossomed from there. So the time I was like probably 16 years old, we was cool, but I didn't have
a real great relationship with her. Not a bad one, but I was more on the east side with my
grandmother, and when I went to the west side, I was well-hearted, and all my niggas, and, you know,
more of that. But after she out of stroke, that's kind of how me and I became best friends. So when I wrote that song to you, Rugs, that was kind of based on the true story of how
“I was kind of disappointed with that situation at the time. But me and I never actually had a conversation”
about it. Oh, okay. Was that your, you know, everybody get the, when a research, a certain success, was that your mom's, you could quit your job, point? When you moved to the Jersey, was that the you ain't got to work no more moms? Mom, Mom, when I stopped selling the porcuses in the streets, I was going to say, "Oh, this is nice." She could have missed out work. She would have won the ram, you know, I was like, "Listen, man, I love my mom for being my mom, but she could have
been a star working. I bought her the house in Jersey. She wasn't working there, but I was given a high-mode grandmother, monthly allowances, high-mode grandmother, I was given a money every month, since probably 2000, every month they got my grandma and my mother got allowance every month. She not have to do what she was doing. She, my mother looked at me and said, "She's like a sport. She's just doing it there and they're telling herself for shit. She have to do it. I respect
it and I respect the ground and everything, but imagine how frustrating that is for me as a son. And they can straighten it and they kidnap my mom, your care mom, I'm not going for five Avenue. We're going to walk down there and kidnap her. I don't know, we are proud. This is the shit I used to go through. She used to, I was my mom, you got to move. I'm the celebrity, you're not the celebrity. I'm not going to be a prisoner of yes success. And I'm like, "The
fucking shit. This was going on, but no. When I bought her the house, she wasn't working before her and she didn't have to work. She's getting allowance every month before the house. She doesn't want to run the streets. She's like, "She's taller, man. She's taller, you know what I mean?" It was a long time ago, so I know people are sensitive today, but was you one of your rappers and shout out to her, but was you one of your rappers
along with others that when you went to one of six apartments, did you ever like stay at freeze by? Because she had a big butt. Was you one of those rappers that used to look? When I went to one of those six apartments that I would stay at freeze by, I don't think I ain't tired of turning around, and I'm about to think, "Oh, you wasted the entire freeze,
“but yeah, that's what I'm saying." If you get the angle, you know,”
if you get the angle to stay at freeze, but I would love to. I'd never tried to get what I'd
not like that. Even though she's pretty, she's gorgeous. Everybody kind of wanted like you said, "But I don't think I have a chance to really stand up, but, you know, it's more about taking an advantage in the opportunity of being on one of those six apartments and promoting what I had going on." But as far as me standing up, but I don't know, maybe if you're talking about a clip aside, then you see me doing it. I'd do it again. I'm not a massive aggressive nigga when
they come to women, man. If I like women, I like women, and I'm just going to say that, you know, it's crazy is that I must have jumped in, there's a few years ago, I jumped in this girl's DM, and she must have posted me trying to get what I'm in the DM. You know, we get mad at Zion and they just like that for doing the know that. I'll play the NBA, I'm missing games and all that. So, I jumped in the DMs and the girl who DM I was in posted my DM, like, "Look at Cam,
thirsty ass, Johnny, getting my DMs." So, a novel girl that I knew, I used to mess with sent it to me. That's how I seen it. She said, "Cam, this girl posted you trying to get it,
Slide in how DMs.
DMs that may be posted because I'm in every year's DM that I liked at that time. I'm sliding them DMs." That's just that, "Look, you mess every shot, you don't shoot. If you don't shoot it, you mess. I'm a shooter. I'm a shooter, man." That's just, "Yeah, I'm going to shoot. You mess every shot,
“I think you don't shoot, man." That's the fact.”
Speaking of your first album, you had a gun and then a cross. I remember you crossed some flag for your MBA logo, whatever. Did you guys flag for that? I think so too, but that was another one of your answers, man. We all get, I know I have four that first album. You're going to get a more hit for the love of jumpsuit. We're going to get that new one here for the government of course. We're going to get that, make it for the five
million. It's Sledgehammer pours. This is all the shit that I didn't want to meet and do.
And who am I to disagree with the nigga who works with Biggie Smalls, who works with Little Care, who just had a gold album with Julia Mafia. I listen, man, I was starting to do what I had to do, but that was another one of us ideas. So when it comes a lot, it's sent to the first album, especially for emotional wives. The other talk now, maybe we should get them up here, so you can, you can ask them. You know what's funny is that I asked, I sent them a clip when you
was fucking with me about the Sledgehammer. And I said, see this, I sent it to her. The nigga
“I didn't want to write me back. He says, Jeff Ford, you should have never started me smoke your”
weed. Okay, if that's what we do, if that's what we do, or if that's what we're going to blame
no, that's fine, but sorry to my nigga, man, I've always appreciated the opportunity,
but that was another, um, a marker that I did at the time that he started them. So Wayne, you started him and then smoke a weed? Yeah, yeah, man. I don't know. This is all, you know, it's funny, one day, the name was, we is in a circle. For people that don't know what the circle is, it's 11.99's like a big circle with people used to chill out.
And me and Black, I blessed them, my bro, Black, he's in a smoking. And then, we'll buy you see, let's smoke it. And this before, like, Rockefeller and all that, this, when he's seen a smoke, he's like, "Hey, yo, you're like a smoke cheap up. We were like, cheap up."
“I think it's smoking cheap up. He was like, "Yeah, yeah, man, we smoke weed. I don't even know”
you're gonna smoke weed for like that, man." And I said, yeah, we smoke, but, um, yeah, that was, you know, that was a dope time, man, because the name, you know, he had his own crib, and I remember, I got kicked out of college, and we were trying to wrap it in everything. And the name had his own crib in 1199, so we would go up there and, uh, and me and Black, you know, talk about rapping, and, man, and Mason, everything else. And we was smoke with Dave, and Dave would be creative when
he was smoking, but he wasn't a smoker. So me and Black be smoking, we talk, we talk about ideas, and things he won't do, and he's gonna be his big CEO, and sports agency, and I'm gonna go back to college and play board. Whatever, we just talked about ideas. And so we being there chilling, no, if we ain't, you know, bitches about two, three, four, and the morning, we're like, you know, Dave, we out. Dave, you know, Dave, we weren't to do it. You all can't leave. You all can't leave.
I'm like, you know, we talked about, we go home, nigga, he said. No, no, no, no, you think he's gonna smoke, he got his, my sister's, this is it, sit down, sit down. I'm not gonna smoke me out in a paranoid name. I got to wait, we like, you know, Dave is just, we bro, you like, no, nope, nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're gonna smoke me out and go home, right? Yeah, he is three in the morning. We go home, nigga. But it was, it used to be funny because
name wasn't a smoker, but he would definitely smoke to get creative sometime, definitely. So yeah, I don't know if I saw him smoking away, smoking now, but he didn't smoke a lot. Back then, but he was smoke with us to be creative, but he definitely walked up on me and blood and said, I, you know, you all know, niggas is smoking cheap. That was a lot. The, um, the bone crushers song, remix you did, which they still play, but what does it
mean? I never skid. You did the remix. It was in 2003. How does song came about? If you knew
Bone crush her or how, how, how did you get on that remix?
I didn't know bone crush her. I, I think that's the only time I ever seen bone crush her when we did the actual video. But I remember learning to do that remix because I like
“this song. I always travel once I got a couple of dollars. And I think being in New York as”
in New Yorker, we think we to shit to where we don't pay attention to a lot of things that's going on in other cities and other places. You know what I mean? So I would go to Atlanta. It's hard to Jacob York. Jacob was bigger in Atlanta seeing way before anybody I knew about Atlanta. He used to go down there and even though he's from Brooklyn, he used to come back and tell I'm, you know, this, you know, this artist is dope. This artist is dope. And people was so focused
to not just people, people around us, was so focused on New York didn't pay attention to what was going on in Atlanta. You know, I'm saying, and I remember being down there and hearing that song, I'm like, yeah, that's cool. It's crazy. I wouldn't do the remix. And when it's time to do the remix, they actually restarted to me. So it was really dope that it worked out like that. But I just think that I got the travel and how the music, because when you go to other states,
I mean, we'll take knowledge these change now. But when you go to other states and it's just radio and let's just say you go to Alabama, but you're not going to have much of New York shit on the radio and Alabama. And then when you go to the club and Mississippi, you have
bunch of music that you're not going to hear in New York. So I was always paying attention to that.
And I'm like, yo, Nick is this eating outside of New York. It's a whole number of Georgia of music. It doesn't give a fuck about what New York is doing. And boom, Chris, I have one of the records that took off in itself. And I was happy to be a part of the remix. So that's kind of how it went. It was you and JD kids and busted rhymes on that. But like I said, songs still get played. It's a real couple of songs. So I was wanting to know how y'all connected for that song. Yeah, I remember exactly
how it went. I'm spice up labels to the whatever, but so I had to borrow Chris for thinking about us and putting me on the record. Absolutely. The public enemy mixed tape. You had stopped doing music for a while. Was that the time where you moved to Florida and didn't want to be on the scene or
“whatever, was you making that mixed tape during that time? Or did you shot back up and just knocked it out?”
Oh, and I was kind of before I went to Florida, like right before that. I thought I was going to
do the whole mixed tape when I first built the studio or the house. Actually, I was the first thing.
If you listen to that mixed tape, it's mixed terribly, uh, songs are all low of face to eat. You shot the money, go, well, now what? We built the studio and he was the engineer and not saying now what is an engineer, but he's not a mix of engineer. And he was recording everything. Me, now what, um, prospect president Tom Giss, a mafia was on it, but it's a me that was kind of the time more of when dip set was, uh, breaking up. And I just just wanted to do music at the time. You know,
I think I'll beef or not beef, whatever disagreements breaking up, kind of started going public. And I'm like, you know, I need to keep doing what I'm doing alive. So that's kind of how that public enemy mixed tape came about. Me and Jim and Joelle's publicly were in on the same page. Um, and then, you know, Jim and Joelle's had a moment together where they would do a music or whatever, I'm browsed to turn that really great and everything else. And I was like, I cool,
I'm gonna do this. So that's kind of what I built my studio and we'll engineer the whole mixed tape.
“And that's why when people love that mixed tape, but if you listen to the levels,”
they kind of all over the place, but well, you did, you did better than I could have did. So shout the will and I appreciate her been prospered. President Tom gets a mafia duke to go. We put together a real good mix tape, but that was before or I happened when I moved to Florida.
It was when I first built my studio in New Jersey's. Okay, what was stood out?
Soon, I think soon as soon as I heard that mixed tape, the roaches and the chicken, I said, now, this nigga Kim is crazy. Yeah, nigga's got to hit a music after this. Like, I think it was like a double CD, right? Yeah, yeah. Like a double. Yeah, we used like a bunch of songs said out, but yeah, I know just to just get on there. It's a loud, yeah, yeah. Roaches and the chicken. Out of the core members, before y'all,
What's your favorite song from each one?
think of the music, what's the first song there? Like your favorite song? Like give me your favorite
Zeex song. My favorite Zeex song is Daddy's Backposs. Yeah, that's probably my favorite Zeex song. My favorite, Jim song is probably this is Jim Jones. And my favorite, Jua's song is, you're going to love me. So those are the three songs that I would take from individually for now. What separates murder and your show from everybody else shows? Or talk with me or, you know, like what separates? What do you think there's this separation?
Well, I think with me, a mason show is that we came and did a lane and nobody's doing
“for what you can consider if you want to put us in a box and call us rappers. Nobody was doing sports.”
So you may have drinks and rice out to Nori A. Go, you may have a million dollars game shout
to Gillian Walu, Joe Button, shout to Joe Button, it's podcast. I'm just using those, it's the top three podcast, bar me in the game. And we didn't do that. We came and talking to my sports. You know, over the couple last two years, we even when we started doing this show this year, make three years. You know, we wanted to do this five days a week once we started getting it going. But when we came in and even me to this day, we wanted to do sports and want to do it differently.
You know, I remember the first show we did since, since part of original cast when I first
was doing a pilot for this show. And shout to Coach Dave, Coach Dave was also original member.
Dawn was actually the host to the show. Shout to my home girl, Dawn when we started to figure things out. And we would just get on there and be like, yo, is Aaron Rodgers good? And it was funny because Dave, Dave would like not freeze, but he wouldn't elaborate on camera. I'm like, yo, is Aaron Rodgers good? And he's good. I'm like, no, he's shit. So I think when we came in and it wasn't more about analytics and numbers and not saying those aren't important,
we would just give him a hood perspective on how Niggas would talk about sports and barbershop, say dice games on hallways, a beauty supply show or whatever. That's what we were doing,
“which we still do. But that's what made it different. I remember, I was trying, I said some”
sit about Patrick Beverly, shout to Pat Beth to and Pat Beth ever responded to me. And then I was responding to Pat Beth like, yo, you're taking it the wrong way and Mace was like, man, fuck that nigga, I showed Pat Beth out. And it was like, oh, Dawn, then Mace said you want show Pat Beverly out? And to me, that's what made Niggas start to an anim because athletes started watching and paying attention was we, you know, we happy we they did,
but we didn't give away because our blueprint was we are taking the stance from urban America, barbershops, dice games, etc. and bringing this shit to television. So we're nothing but a extension of what they're saying in the hood around America. It's even like now, right? With with you, and not about I'm not talking to shit. I'm just saying if we do sudden on the show that people don't like on people that like this time that they're you're telling me like,
yo, niggas in the shop said this nigga, they ain't liking it. They're not liking it. Now I'm sitting there fighting the shop. I'm supposed to be the shop. I'm supposed to be, walk the shop. And then this is in the barbershop judging me. Shout out to y'all niggas up there and the wash of the heights of the barbershop. Since last we know what is going on, I get all the or the critique and working on it. I'm trying to get better. Or shall I stay? I'm trying to go back to
where I should be. So shout everybody up there at the barbershop, man. So we appreciate your input, man, and let me know if we get a little too watered down, and we need to get back to where we need to be. But to me, that's what's separated us from other shows that nobody that was a musician or a former musician or whatever category you want to put them in were doing sports. And then, you know, it started equaling out to stories. We equate stories with our life to some people with whatever
“they go through in sports. But I think that's what really separated. And then for this show talk”
we're free, you know, I'm such a charismatic nigga. You just don't know what the hell you know,
I'm saying why not.
man with me. And I don't mean this and for me, I'm talking about fans. You got people who love me
“and you got people who hate me. Either way you want to. And then you may walk away from the TV.”
I'm talking to them. I hate this nigga. I can't stand this nigga. You got something like
my fuck with this nigga. This thing is wow. Either way, you're going to watch because you just don't know when we started this show off and not this show, particularly, he's out to revolt. We started
the first show off where we're involved when we're booking a nigga who keep doing this records.
“You just don't know what's going to happen week the week. That's why this shit works out, man.”
I mean, but so so we were not a time we going to do this sitting in next week. We're going to talk more about the fight on for Indora, Keith Thurman. Thank you all to give for tuning in and talk with a flea baby. See you next week.
