Cam'ron Reveals His Biggest Regret With Juelz Santana & Clears Up Dipset Rumors | Talk With Flee

>> Yeah, it was good everybody. Welcome back to Talk with Fleet.

“Thank y'all for tuning in for another week.”

It's been incredible. I want to thank the fans for all the feedback. You know, all the support. It's been going really, really well. And it's exciting, man.

I really, really loving this show, man. I'm loving it. I want to know what you want to know with you. I'm wondering, before we start, I'm wondering, I know it's a different type of bread over there.

But is there late fees over at Talk with Fleet? Do we get it reimbursed? Me and Nick, how does this work? [LAUGH] [LAUGH]

>> It's the thing. You have a, about telling you what? It wasn't two weeks ago about having your own. [LAUGH]

>> This is why tell you have your own.

This is the point right here when you say you have your own. It should be like, spread the love. Spread the love. You spread the love over there. Spread it over here, applause.

This is man. It is with me. [LAUGH]

“>> I don't know what the late fee is because you don't have a set time.”

We just do our thing. We do our thing, poor thing. >> Okay. >> No one said you start booking the time, man. You booking.

>> [LAUGH] >> Looking at I beat it. >> [LAUGH] >> You haven't touched it. >> The thing about you doing late fee,

you don't film a nowhere but you're crib. You don't even go nowhere. >> How you know where I'm at? >> Huh? >> How you know where I'm at?

>> Yes. >> I could be out of studio. I could be pan for this. >> Yes. >> I know that chair.

[LAUGH] >> That's what your chair is. >> Oh man. You don't even go nowhere. >> [LAUGH]

>> I've got to travel and be places to do this. I don't have to set up in the crib just yet, man. Shot the money in BB, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to studio in Miami right now.

I'm a partner in Dips at Kato. We got a bunch of new things coming out for us. Movies, TV shows, everything else. Man, so big shout out to Triangle on my naked baby, man. So when we are going on the day.

>> I wanted to actually, was you coming to the September 19th fight party with Floyd and Pacquiao? >> Yeah, it's got much to say. >> All right, well, I'm like, you know, it's a big shout out for a party.

It's actually at your house. All right, I'm going to keep it out of what you got. We know he was supposed to be there, but I'm inviting you. It's me, Nick, sugar, freak. We all set it up.

It's going to be an extravagant. So, you know what I mean? I'm sending you away. >> I mean, my house, well, I'm going to be there night as well. >> I mean, I'm sending you away.

>> Send me an invite to party at my house. It's crazy.

First of all, those of that fight really are happening.

Who knows? >> I like it. >> I don't like it. I don't like it. That first fight was boring.

The second fight would be even more boring. I'm saying Floyd Don't have a sight in face. That wasn't one of the most exciting fights. Because we know I explosive many packie I live. And Floyd neutralizes that.

He neutralizes it, make you look average, make you know, or the crazy situation we don't have in the niggas. It makes you look bad. And Floyd picture a part, but that wasn't one of my favorite. Pick you a part, pause.

Faced from Floyd. You know, we don't see the tour of God. We don't see him, Ricky had. You know, seeing fights with Floyd just looks like he's basically. Just hitting the heavy bag with something.

But I'm not excited about this fight. There's a few fights that Floyd will be doing. Hopefully that I will be excited about. But this isn't one of them. Anyway.

“>> I think you're trying to discourage us about this fight.”

The show goes on, brother. The party is still going on. We have this virtual, we have to see even if. We have to see even if the fights go out there. I don't know if this fight goes out there.

Because I don't heard Floyd say he fighting. Mike Tyson. Then I heard he said he's going overseas to face the niggas in Europe. Now you told my September man, he paid you out. All he face may happen.

I'm not saying they're not. But it'd be too much advertising. And we don't know exactly what's for sure. If it does happen, I'll be watching it. Not saying it's going to be the most exciting thing I want to see.

I don't know, it's too much promotion without no guarantee. Let me ask you something that was going around right now. It's out of Floyd to see Floyd. I have a day at his birthday party, big shot to Floyd. Do you think, why do you think Floyd is coming back to fight right now?

Floyd is the type he needs action in his life. I don't think he likes even though Crawford retired. I don't think he likes people even compare Crawford to him. Maybe he would have beat Floyd. I think he like, "Wr.

Let me show niggas what I used to do when I'm still in shape. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I still could fuck niggas up. Let me go show niggas.

Just case, I'm not saying they're going fight. He's going fight Crawford. But he just reminded him. That's what I think." And then, it don't hurt that the payday is 20, 30 million.

That never hurts, you know what I mean?

>> So, do you think this is all because of attention

“that Timons Crawford is getting the reason he's coming back?”

>> Not just Crawford, just, you know, other fighters. Well, I would say mainly Crawford. Because soon as Crawford beat Kinello, the first thing they did was compare at the press conference after the fight.

The post fight conference after the fight. Yo, Kinello, what you think about Crawford? Is he better than Floyd? >> Yeah, he is better than Floyd. I know, you know, Floyd is competitive.

He probably was like, "Why, niggas beat you up too?" Oh, I see what niggas is doing. And then, like I said, the money don't hurt. And, you know, it's attention. >> It's speculation that Floyd or not speculation is out there

at that Alhamman and Showtime, O Floyd, or Joke Floyd,

O Floyd, some type of way, $2 to $300 million.

You know, we see these rumors of Floyd Owen Wright and money in this standard third. Do you think they're coming back has anything to do with these rumors? >> It don't hurt getting the extra $20 million in $10 million. >> They don't hurt getting the extra.

“>> I mean, if you spend money the way he does,”

maybe he might need it. The niggas goes in her maze and spends like a hundred bands. My niggas, like, he goes shopping. So a niggas spent a money like that. He got about $100.

He might need it. That's something that you don't want to give up nothing that he has already, like, you know, I'm selling this for Robbie. I'm doing this. He probably wants to keep everything he has in that course.

So you probably need a little extra. >> I ain't going to lie when I went to his birthday parade. I would date him cause was out there, baby. They still there. I tell you that when that pocket line was flooded,

rose, roses. Everything colored in. Everything top of the line shot. Floyd may weather seeing it too.

It's my first time seeing him and big shot to him.

But yeah, those rumors are speculating. And some people are saying that's the reason he's going back to the boxing. And hopefully I can say I'm talking with Floyd and see his real one's not real.

I don't know. But he's good to have a day when I see it. I tell you that much. Look really, really good. Who do you think wins out of fight with him in

Times Crawford? >> For right now, because of the strength, I'm having to go with Terrence because he's stronger than Floyd. I know muscles don't have nothing to do with it. That's all I got, man.

I can't go off of IQ. They both got top notch IQs. But I will say Terrence hits harder than Floyd. I will say that. So that's why I said strength.

I'm gonna go off that. And you got nothing to do with age. You take care of your body. You can still do what you do. Look at LeBron.

He takes care of his body. He spends money on his body. Whatever the case may be. Floyd does the same thing. He's still, he's still in shape.

And Terrence Crawford has good habits too. So. So you're in the record saying Terrence Crawford would be Floyd right now. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Cool, man. Is that your decision? What's your choice?

I don't go against Floyd until I see him lose. That's just me.

“I think Terrence Crawford ain't losing even.”

You know, I want to get into Terrence Crawford last minute. I was spending need to destroy our expense. Yeah, you did. All for a cookout fight. Yeah, I did.

I apologize about it. I was wrong. I'm not right about it. He looked really good. And the great against Kinello.

But, you know, I'm just not going to go against Floyd till further notice. And we know that Terrence Crawford hasn't lost either.

It would be a dangerous fight for Floyd.

My personal thing. I would like to see Floyd fight arrow spans.

“That's what I think that'd be a good fight because arrow spans.”

Excuse me. We have a scene. I was spent since he since he's lost to Crawford. And speculation, the room is how arrow spans got the best of Floyd inspiring. A couple to a couple.

Not a couple of few years ago. And even Floyd been on a record saying he didn't say it exactly like that. He said, I want to give arrow spans a shout out for giving me some good. Work in the gym when I got out of jail. So, you know, his room is that only reason I was spent.

Got the best of him is because Floyd just got out of jail. Floyd said he gave him some good work. We haven't seen. I was spent since Tyre Crawford. I think that'll be a great fight.

My personal opinion. Who you think wins that fight? Floyd. Okay. I got some questions for you today, man.

It was still my question. Although it's some serious, it's a little serious matter before we get into this. Rest in peace to your man, power. I know that was your man or whatever. You gotta be stories with power before we go on.

Not, not don't but big art freedom. I'm in power. Damn, man. He's just inspiration. I don't know him that well.

We talked, we talked about doing business. But just watching how he took the wood bread. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't know. They're power.

At least from what I'm hearing. I'm not going to go back like I was on the inside with risen and divine. They shot the risen, divine and everybody else. I'm part of that. But they say a power to one that came with that shoebox money.

When they get started to figure out what they need, how they's going to get the money up in this day. And they said power came with the shoebox and said, fuck it. Let's go. And he's been on the record saying that.

He took that shoebox money, turned to a woodware and some worldwide bread. I remember when he was talking to my I made 40 million. They was a macy's everything else.

It's always wise power as a business man and just respect to this.

“That's what even when we were saying counter was going through everything.”

I'm talking about artists wise. You got to think about how hard it is to deal with seven, eight different personalities. Even when you grow up with people, as you get over the older personalities change, if I don't get back together and do the residency of Vegas, that's where we really kicked it out.

We talked there and we just shared our ideas and he said he wanted to work with me. Some films and I said man, it'd be a honor. And I spoke to him last year and he told me he was going through some chemo and then he'd be back on his feet. And the thing about it when I seen that he died,

I ran across his number for some of these. I was scrolling like for some of my houses and I'm like, I'm going to give him a call and check on him. And then I said, I didn't do it. And I said, piss me off when I see that because just two, three weeks before that, I just seen his number in my phone.

I'm like, I'm a compliment a week or two. And he didn't live. So if there's somebody out there that you think that's not doing well health wise, anything wild, even mental, whatever it is, don't hesitate to check on him, man.

Or you never know, it might be too late, man.

So I'll pee to my manpower, man. So let me actually this. So we don't get to some shit that I'm tired of. You just ask me questions. How did you feel when you first started doing music and people compared you to Max B?

I understand why I got it. You know, we both hominized hooks. Zeke stopped doing music. I went near Jim started doing music. People was looking at me as a replacement.

And people hated it off the back, off the rip. Eventually certain people who start to, people that I used to like, that's when Twitter was out. People that used to go crazy. I go, you as a replacement.

You'll think as Nick a brother by then he started fucker with me eventually. You know, so I was expecting it. And for a while, it didn't bother me. And then it did.

And then it did.

“I think how are you now, how are you today with that?”

Well, I don't do music as much as I used to. And it doesn't bother me at all. Now, why do you feel it to time, though? Oh, I told you to bother me. You know, we took to a point where I was looking for certain people.

And I'm still mad at, you know, it's crazy. One person that used to diss me all the time. I never even met him.

Anyway, I still have a, I haven't seen him yet. But I still have like, I ain't good towards that person. Because you don't even know me. You know, he was going way crazy calling me an F-word. And all that shit.

So it was like, damn, they're like, you don't even know me. They're like, so it was like, you know. But other than that, no, I didn't bother me. Because once I got paid for something, it was, I didn't care. And I mean.

Yeah, well, just so you know, Max, fucks with you. He said, ah, he loves what you're doing. And all that shit is old and everything else. But I know that was a big issue back then. And I'm like, to me, sin has his own shit max out there on shit.

“But I think because of the association, that's where the hate came from.”

If you were to just did it by yourself, it wouldn't even been no big deal. Yeah.

I always wanted to actually that man.

And I just wanted to see how you felt about it, man. So, yeah. And I'll sporadically actually more questions when I feel like it to hope to show that you had to go there. Yeah.

Oh, by the way, I always thought that Nick was a super talented. So, when we were supposed to do something together, right before, you know, the fallout with him and Jim or whatever, I was looking forward to that, because I thought it would have been dope. Like, as you well, seek everybody's like, yo, y'all think it's got to do something together.

And we was kind of talking about it. But then, you know, shit happens. Yeah. Well, the thing about it is, you know, everybody's here growing up. Probably in the better space mentally than they was back then.

So, yeah. That's what it's about, man. That's all it's about, man. That you're doing great. He's doing great.

And everybody got over the bullshit.

So, that's what it's more about for me.

“That's why I actually, because I know that everybody's had space.”

It's not the same way it was 15 years ago. It was more than 20 years ago. Yeah. When you signed to, I want to go back to Rockefeller. Matter of fact, let me go back to the question we had in San Antonio.

We were talking about it, because I gave you time to think about it. Did you remember ever changing it? Because remember I actually bought your teeth. What made you want to do your teeth? Do you remember changing anything about yourself?

The please are a bit as a, excuse me. A woman? You said you had to think about it. You said you had to think about it? Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, man, I'm, I'm trying, man.

I'm, you know, I'm learning. This is, this isn't it. Don't get me out, think of face. I did it. Did I ever change something for a female?

No. I used to get shit. I do, see, listen. This is the way the game goes, right? For me.

“I mean, I'm going to talk about this before on it.”

It is what it is. Briefly though, you know, I wasn't an extended conversation. When you get in this game or any game or anything. Well, now, you know, it depends on when you start an off-right. And can't well use me to joke about this.

I forgot to joke over. But it was pretty funny. And I'll get back to cat will use joking a minute. But when you're younger and you're coming up, it's two people, two times of people that you do what you do for.

The synonyg is in your old hood that was acting like she wasn't going to go down and fight on bitches. That's what you do it for. You ain't thinking about five natural security at 22, 23 years old. You get to deal.

And like I get the best car, and you get me to 600. I mean, that got caught me a 500. Took the five off the back and put the six on it, because it was the same body. I mean, I'm here to synonyg.

It's the same what's going to happen and get all the bitches to. That was I can crazy. I was talking about this when we saw the show. Could you know, sometimes I let you talk about certain, sometimes you won't.

And he was, you know, as one of the shows that we, he was being open about certain. I was telling him how proud when he got to deal. How proud of him I was when I, you know, he was still living in Harlem before his album came up.

And when I used to come, come to his crib. I used to see girls who used to go to high school walking out. Or they would be in an apartment. And I would tell them, yeah. Remember they were sitting on this.

Look at her now sitting on the couch on my head. And my bitch. So I'm going to be scared. Man, look at you. You want to be out friend.

Anything that's going to happen? No, no, no. So the answer to your question.

I never changed nothing I do for a bitch.

But to get bitches. Yeah, I'm going to cop the car. Of course, I'm going to cop a car like. But I'm going to cop a car that I know bitches love.

I'm going to get this change because I know. I'm the niggas in my hood going to be mad. And the bitch going to be like, can I wear it? Maybe. [laughter]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I have to do that. Like we can't William said when I was talking about his joke. Can't William said.

Or I was talking somebody I had silk pink pillows.

And some of my room was pink in this time in the third.

He was talking about himself. And they were saying cat. Why do you have. And I'm maybe butcher in the joke. So pardon me if I'm not getting it right.

But he basically was saying cat. Why do you have pink silk pillows? Why do you have pink in your room?

“And they said maybe because that's what the bitch is like.”

And that's who's going to be in here. Bitch is in. I can't be in my bedroom. I was just talking about my silk silk sheets and pink. That's some pink.

Look man. You know what? Bitches on my dick with the pink range over. Pink got saw that money. She was a movie out there.

The pectoral biz more. More wheels. I mean, I have to change. I have to change that about me. All I had to do was be me with a little more money.

And it's been times with females that tell me. You're so rude. We'll get right in the car. They like it. Yeah.

Listen. God bless the day. My ex-girlfriend. I said, you know what man? I'll be bugging.

I'm going to start being nice of you. So don't do it. It's a turn on. Let's start saying thank you and all. Hold in the door for me and all that shit.

I can't do it on nice minutes. I say say less. Don't be that mean anyway. I won't be the negaya. No one.

I don't like. No one. You and T used to joke was hilarious. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's one thing about her is that she had her skin. Yeah. She had her skin. You was there for a lot of that shit some time.

Yeah. Because you know, she used to get busy in the street and all that shit. I'm like, you know, I ain't going to tell a business on here right now. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I used to talk pretty harsh that she didn't get a fuck. I don't remember. I know what you're talking about.

“I can't remember what I said, but I forget.”

It was sad. I forget what it was. I took off. When I said that time, I can't remember. Because I was actually about the cards.

The instant credit cards. I said, well, people look, do people look at people funding when they go out and pay for dinner with them instant credit cards. She was like, yes, me and my friends. And you was disagreeing all the time.

You was like, yeah, well, you was a prostitute at 13. She said, not at 13. And I was like, well, you was a prostitute at 13. She said, not at 13. And I was like, well, you was a prostitute at 13.

She said, not at 13. And I was like, well, you was a prostitute at 13. She said, not at 13. And I was like, well, you was a prostitute at 13. She said, not at 13.

And I was like, well, you was a prostitute at 13. And I was like, well, you were a prostitute at 13. And I was like, well, you were a prostitute at 13. Because I don't, you know, I'm not in a woman and then I say, bro, you know, I'm saying, so I remember,

I ignored her for like three weeks. Because she said, I don't remember what she did. I just didn't speak for three weeks.

And then I finally spoke to her.

And we got cooling. I said, what's up? She said, yeah, do me a favor. If you mad at me, I will have you just be my ass and give it over where we can be speaking.

Then be a normie for three weeks. I say, yo, you crazy. I'm not doing this. I'm just doing this stupid three weeks. But you can just fuck me real quick. And we can just be speaking.

So you, well, you wow, man. But I'm sorry to see in everybody I'm filming and everything else. But back to the original question. No, I ain't doing all that.

You know what I hate? You know what I hate? And I think it was me.

“I think it's even me and you are me and so I've been down.”

I think it was me and you were talking. How right females get when niggas, right? And they meet them and they just star I'm just using music example, right? And be like, yo, this niggas is star.

I love them. It's down at third. And then you met the niggas because you liked the MSC portray. And then you tried to dump the niggas down

and domesticate the niggas. You know, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. You know what I was talking about that. Yeah.

You know, I started calling them by as government.

He was killing the first year.

I'm saying, man, they know a niggas middle name.

You know what I mean? Like, why you got with that niggas. You, you, the niggas you met. It's like, yo, that's the niggas you met. Then you turn them off.

Yo. Uh, let's go to Costco's. (laughter) Tarjay.

Yeah, I'm a niggas son of my first to go do that shit, man.

Now, I mean, I remember this girl I ain't going to even say. They did say my situation. But I remember girl came to me about somebody I knew. And they wasn't doing well. She came, and she kept it to honey.

She's like, can't you talk to him? Let's just say his name was, let's just say his name was David Flash. Just using a fake name. And he's a superstar. And he wasn't, he ain't really the superstar.

He used to be, but not, not.

“Because he just, you know, poor work, I think I'll say.”

And the girl, she got with him when he was David Flash. Now, he's just, David Smith. So, she like, yo can't talk to the niggas in the game. You know, I need you to be somebody. Man, that's David Flash, man.

I'm like, yeah, the Flash is gone. But she was disappointed in the niggas. For not being David Flash no more. She like, yo, my niggas, man. I got with David Flash.

I didn't get with David Smith.

And I said, I feel you or not.

I feel you, man. So, sometimes it's not just the girl. I don't care what you do. You say, yeah, it's the facts. Yeah.

It's not supposed to be a grimoire, bro. It's not supposed to be a grimoire. But you, yeah, you can't agree with him, man. Even if it's true, you don't agree with him, man. Now, man.

Yeah, you got with David Flash. And that's who you, that's who you with. Don't talk about David. It was the other name. David Smith.

Don't talk about David Smith. You with the Flash. But that's what we talked to you. No, but you remember some of my point. She wanted David Flash.

I know. I need them down back to David Smith. So, you know, part of the reason it's Nick is like you. Why he's David Smith.

And it's Nick is just like you.

It's the reason he's David Smith. And that's not true. But Nick is like you. You know, because you don't want to recognize what's going on. And when seeing them, they get dumb back down to David Smith.

And I stay in their flash. Yeah, man. For my input, take that slide. I'll just tell you where I'm going.

“And I made me be in a male shelf and that's what you call it.”

I might be seeing that. But I'm not going to sit here and agree with you with that. You don't know. But you got with that. I'm talking about her.

Like, you got with David Flash. That's who you with. Don't come over here and do a complaint. Like, don't do that. I'm not going to call sign.

What you saying. And I, and I may be getting names wrong. You can change the names and tell me what's posted. And tell me where's posted be. If you get with the negative from the five heart beats.

[ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] What? [ Laughter ] And then, he'd had negative.

What was his name, Flash? [ Laughter ] From his flash. She outside. They're going on a spy back.

You don't want that negative who is outside. Actually, for his spy back. I got with the negative who's spinning around. They're shin on stage. And they'll be giving him.

[ Laughter ] And then he was on the other side. Yeah, Eddie came up back.

“Yeah, because he said Flash won't spy back.”

Yeah, I got with the, I got with the, I don't want that Eddie came post. [ Laughter ] You know what I'm saying? Like, look. Like, what's more mean?

[ Laughter ] You know what I'm saying? Like, look. Like, what's more mean? [ Laughter ]

See, she still called me big daddy. He pimps the console stack money. That's to this day, man. That's what I'm saying. That's what she got with.

Big daddy pimps the console stack money. So don't get mad at me that I ain't dumb in there. [ Laughter ] You know what I mean? [ Laughter ]

[ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] Big daddy and Nick. [ Laughter ]

Look at me. Look at me. You know what I mean? [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ]

[ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] Hey, boy, you're over me, bro. [ Laughter ]

[ Laughter ] But what I want to do today is not to get to the studio. The master-by-tack-lepto-bücher soft-handed internet. It's like master-by-tack-bücher soft-handed internet. You know what I mean?

But I don't understand it. Egal, it's a very famous restaurant. It's a very famous restaurant. And when they then work, the house is catching.

Save. This is a restaurant. [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ]

All right. Now, can you imagine... Uh...

“She gone to somebody else and like, "Well, I got with...”

I'm not saying that shit because it's that money...

I can't see whatever that shit is." I'm not saying that, but could you imagine... [ Laughter ] And then we... I don't think how to strike money.

[ Laughter ] I thought my name was funny. So, could you imagine how to go in the... I'm saying, "Well, I got with... I got with that.

I ain't get with... I ain't get with camera on." [ Laughter ] I can't remember anything. Could you imagine? And then a nigga like, "Well, yeah, that's true."

You don't do that in the nigga. The way you're saying it is correct. I may be, I can because of my tone, everything else. It wasn't a complain. It was a cry for help.

Yeah. It wasn't a complain. It wasn't a complain. It's like, "Help him. Can we do something?"

That's what it was more of.

It wasn't more of a...

“You know, this nigga that turned into Davis Smith.”

It was more of a... Could we do something? Let's, man. I ain't gonna get a detour. We'll leave it at that, man.

All right. Yeah. Listen. You got any career in Madison moments, but you're most in Madison career moment.

Well, some embarrassing career moment. Hmm. I don't know. I'm trying to think that's a good one. Maybe.

Maybe I fell on the stage or something. Something like that. Maybe. I know. I probably fell.

What time I fell? I bought some cleats. Some since was high.

And they matched my outfit.

I'm like, "Damn, I'm gonna fight the cleats today." And then cleats was not matching with the stage surface. And I kept slipping and sliding the whole show, bro. And I bust my ass. But the funniest time I would say is Z.

It was the time when we was opening up, on a no way out to for a puff and mace and everything else. And we ain't gonna know parties even. I know baby you. We're just opening up for puff and mace.

No, I'm saying. Yeah, none of that shit. We actually didn't have a whole stage. So we performed when arena was half empty because I was new. And the curtain was still closed.

And literally not even exaggerating. The stage was smaller than this desk. Like it was just like this maybe the size of this desk. Now it's smaller. They didn't even open the curtains.

But we had just excited to get the opportunity to open up. And when we got to Madison Square Garden, Zik didn't notice. And when we came up perform Zik's ran out, we did a curtain fell into the crowd. Because he thought it was a big stage.

And it was this big. And this nigga just fell on his face. And he out on the Superman outfit with a cape. He out on like the roof. Yeah, I'm a real Superman outfit.

Like tights, paws. I know where. Or tape is sitting. Make a cape on yourself. So you're looking at a black Superman.

Just fall off like this. And it's like the stage in the ground. And it's cape is flat. And then all that shit. So that was pretty funny. I wouldn't say in Madison for me.

A little bit in Madison for me because he was part of my show. And they like him. Who's the nigga with the Superman outfit? What do I have to do with anything, man? I'm like that nigga just a wild nigga.

“That's what he chose to come out when he said he had.”

But I think if he can't fly, we see that. So that was pretty funny. Because I don't even think he was embarrassed. Because he just climbed back up on the stage and started dancing. Because you tell your personal embarrassed a moment when you peed the bed.

And you actually, it's on your network where you made a skid about it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think about it is. I didn't really get embarrassed because I got out of it. It would have been embarrassing if I got caught.

Now, did I panic? Hell, yeah, I panic. So for people that don't know what Sidney's talking about at the time. I was so drunk and this one I lived in Chicago. And I came home, we all came home from the club.

And I was drunk and the girl was there. And I didn't even have sex with also a drunk, but when I woke up, the bed was wet. And she was sleeping and I'm like, "Damn man.

And I peed a bed. I'm like, "Fuck, yo." What do you do? What do you do when you do? You don't even know the girl.

You like damn first impressions.

You can peed the bed. I didn't think quick. So she's on her side, I was on my side, something like, "Damn, what do I do?" And I've kept touching the bed, makes sure I was wet. Like, yeah, I'm wet, shit, wet.

So I got to move quick. I went and changed. Whatever I had to go and put on some shit. And that's how I know I'm gonna do. When they got to the water, a big problem with that act like I spilled it on.

Pist out off, so she ain't, so she ain't gonna, you know, even those water. She's like, "P" just needs to be populated. I just, "Hey, move, move, move, move, move." She's like, "Let's go."

“I don't know what, what is this going to never run?”

So I'd like, "Pist out of the normal room." She didn't get a whiff of. So, I mean, find out embarrassing because I got out of it now.

If I would've got a quartet, she would've been like, "Oh, piss pot out, snigger."

Yeah. That's it. Then, then, yeah, that would've been embarrassing. And we've that on a smooth, we're got out of that, I have to think fast, man. I got a fair question.

I thought it was a good one. Fred O. Santana, 2027. He said, "If you did 60 minutes over that interview, you did over, would you answer still be the same?" About the, you know, moving away from the serial killer and everything.

Yeah, they'd be the same. We're having this 60 minutes cut out the part. They cut out the part where I said, you know, they cut out what they want to cut out for them to, for me to sound crazy or high. Whatever it is, but I don't, I didn't give a fuck.

But the point being is this, see what I, when I told them is this, and for people who haven't seen that interview,

“the interview was basically talking about telling us, snitching,”

and you're naeble that I wore wavred just in general. And when I broke down to them that they didn't put in there, it's that this, right? And it made me try to look like I'm crazy in this cycle, moving all this other stuff.

Well, let's just talk about urban America, not a serial killer, anything. Let's just talk about a drug-infested murder, a high murder rate neighborhood that you put, may live in. And what they didn't put in there was the part

when I said, look, because you tell, doesn't mean somebody's going to get convicted. So now you live in this neighborhood, and you may have seen somebody that you know, kill somebody. And then you go to court to testify.

Just because you testify, doesn't mean you're going to get a guilty conviction, a guilty verdict part me. So now you go home, he don't go to jail or whole neighborhood. No, you snitched. Now you got to look at it and make it face every day that you told on.

And yeah, outcast it.

“And now it goes like, man, to have him to go home,”

tell him to get a living on your block, because he killed somebody who was selling drugs. And then you get the testimony still on putting the niggins in. Now you got to walk with your head there. You got to think now you want to block you to snitch.

You're being set up to putting the uncomfortable environment. Today is not frowned upon as much as it was frowned upon in the 80s, 90s or 2000s. Today is like niggins giving snitch his files and be like niggins. You had to do what you had to do.

I feel you. That wasn't that fire me. You know what I'm saying? Which is a man. It's not the money they could do.

It's do set. If you got a million followers, you can't do no wrong. Yeah. Don't know. I don't what you're good.

You can just, you can tell. You can do kicking. They can muffin the back or whatever. You got a million followers. You can do no wrong.

So when I broke that down, he edited that whole pawn out. Because that's a fact. Stop thinking because you tell him that somebody's going to jail for you. Tell him. So I wanted that.

So yes, I was the answer to question. I was trying to explain and I'm telling them.

Always equal out a great future for you and your neighborhood.

If you're telling or somebody from your neighborhood. Or even in your borough or something like that, you don't want to go around with that reputation. Because then you get out of it, at least in that era. So yes, I went in and everything the same. But I totally, my whole shit in there.

I edited out what I said about not telling. Because I mean about if you do tell. And I also told them about how the cops got the blue blue seal or whatever. The blue wall. Cops do so fast.

They not go tell or may partner. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. You get, you got to cop. Do some dirty shit.

You know, his body cares now. But before it was. If he got a partner.

“Nine times like the tennis partners not going to tell on him.”

Even though that is pointing in it. No, he did that. Well, I don't think it would just cause a slogan for that shit. The blue seal. The blue some shit.

So when he's niggas is not going to tell or make partner. So cops can sit at.

Uh, a never cop a snitch if they tell on what they did.

You know what I'm saying? So I wouldn't do. I would answer that. Answer the question. Yeah, but they added out a lot of shit that I was making a point about.

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When over the contracts, firms being at you just came out of a situation where you felt you got jerked on an epic, or whatever. Did you read the contracts before you got them? Or you just let the lawyers take care of it?

I mean, lawyers are always going to read the contracts.

They've got to have them. There's a lot of big words and subsidiary things in the contract to where you get a lawyer needs to translate to you exactly whatever you think. It's something my nigga, Matt Middleton, Matt Middleton,

one of the best shares leaders in the world, to bring down a big 80-page contract to a paragraph. So I understand everything that's in the 80-page contract. But yeah, I mean, you tried to use my lawyers and knew what I was signed in before I signed it.

No, okay. So you like the contracts that you was not signed? You like that? They rocked from them? Yeah.

Yeah, it was a good deal. And I mean, especially when I did the diplomat deals or during venture deals, so. Yeah, what's your good, Matt? Because I know this is like, this is shit

that you don't care about, that we do care about. And Wayne, I'll just did this interview on Vlad TV. He breaks down like little details that people want to know. So I'm asking you, because we don't get the way

in a second, something he said that revolving you.

“So when you signed, was it like J, Biggs, and Dane Ned?”

Was it like a meeting? Was it like a celebration? Like what was it like? You signed in contracts. Contracts.

Um, I just signed a contract in my lawyer. But it was, we announced it at the Apollo. J, how to show it to Apollo. And um, Dane meant what me out. And I did a freestyle.

And they announced that I had signed the Rockefeller at the Apollo. So they was all at the Apollo. J was dead. The whole Rockefeller was dead. Dane was dead.

And they announced that I signed the Rockefeller at the Apollo. But it was the paperwork. That was just me, my lawyer. OK. Wayne, I said you hired him, because he was arguing with somebody

in Rockefeller. He was like, you're shorty. How much you make? You remember that? vaguely.

He was just saying that you came along. I was like, you're shorty. How much you make? And I double it. And he said, he called you for like maybe a week or two.

You didn't pick up. But then somebody that just came home was real close to you. And they called you. It was like, yo, could you hire shorty? Like, his mom's helped me.

I went on mom's helped him out when he came home. Whatever.

“So he was like, yo, could you be a big favor in your hire?”

The waiter was a good worker, man. Wayne, oh, shot the waiter. Now I spoke the waiter a few weeks ago. He said he's coming to Vegas. He does a good journal in his work, not just a good journal in his work.

He's very fair when I watch this stuff. He's not picking the side, he's not picking the choosing. I like the fact that he tells exactly where he's seen. And it's not with judgment for anybody. He doesn't like me.

And I'm going to say, he's me. I'm just saying, with me, judgment comes because they're like, okay, I'm just hanging on this. I can't just hang on that. See, Wayne, he's a neutral person. So when I say neutral, I'm neutral too, but he's considered not to have nobody's side.

So when I see him do a take. And he may be having to go with somebody that he used to work with or he was cool.

Like I was watching this shit and it's just, I'm only bringing it up because I laughed when he said this shit and the nigga was like, yo, and I'm not starting to trouble. I'm just repeating what he said, but it was for me. I want to get something personal. For years, for a long time, and I know you cleared it up to me a lot of a lot of cases.

And even, you know, sometimes you have a thing with Kim and Bad Business or Kim, Debbie, Dirty and Business around your name. When you, I know, like a lot of times you want to brush it off, but when you hit things

like that, like there's, it don't mean shit to you, like you never want to clear things

up because it's not one person. It's like more than a few people that feel like you're a Kim, they're bad, bad business, bad business. You know what I mean? You never want to do that.

It's like, really, because it'd be like, look who's saying it. Everybody that I've reduced or business with can't say I'm doing bad business when I'm carrying it.

“That's why I still have relationships with people who I've done business with because”

because I've done good business with people. For instance, right, this gives me example, tell me some people who you say, I'm not going to be offended, if you name some names, who said I've done bad business, just accent. And I'm not going to be offended, I'm not going to talk about something about them, I just would like to know who you're talking about.

No, just like, people that I was signed under you, you know, see that's the thing, let's stop right there, right, let's stop right there. Only person ever signed to me was duels. So when people be like yelling, came to bad business, nobody was signed to me. Nobody was signed to me, but duels.

And when duels want to get out of his deal, I let him out. It wasn't an argument. No, be for me. Me, him in deaf jam, worked it out. He went directly to deaf jam.

He got out of his deal. Once he got out of his deal, once he went out of his deal, we figured out, I let him out his deal. So when Nick, that's where I'm like, who are you talking about? Or if you don't want to sit field comfortable saying the name, I don't care.

But the only person ever signed to me was duels. Duke the guy got four albums for. He signed nobody. He signed a rap music.

“He don't, I put it with J.R. and Hal Rowland 40 cow 40 cow from my block.”

J.R. Howard Rowland from Luke, I brought him. Now go on, they can do it for albums. Even Jim, Jim, did his own deal with Jim, they weren't a wait. I don't blame him, deaf jam may want to give no deal, damn he won't get no deal. I didn't farm catch records, Jim fell catch records.

I'm being honest about, you know, I could say, hey, don't like it. Nick is being hate on me. I ain't gonna lie about it. That's the truth. Because they want to give Jim a deal.

Me and Jim, they want to give me and Jewels a deal. Dave Jewels a solo deal, diplomat project a deal. And I have my own deal in Rockefeller for my solo project. Ain't want to give no deal. I don't know where the Jim, Jim fell catch records at.

Alan Graham, like, that's all his blood. That's a fact.

So Jim was never signed to me.

Hal Row, J.R. and A was never signed to me. Only person Jewels, when Nick is like bad business, who are you talking about?

“'Cause I ain't really, I don't know business with”

oven niggas who talking about. Who else? What's your talking about? Besides these people, I'm just asking who else. Are you talking about?

I was just talking about people under the diplomat label who felt that, you know, they were wrong. And I'm sure you've heard several people say that this bad business. That's what I'm saying.

Without one in particular, but you've heard it. But that's what I'm trying to say. Who was this player? You just cleared it up.

You said Jim was never signed to you.

You know, the only person ever signed to you was Jewels. Oh, yes. All right, Hal Row, nobody was signed to you. Duke leaves, okay? Duke wouldn't have made you need them.

Duke for albums. Duke was running a sweatshop. Out of his crib selling diplomat T-shirts. Fucking diplomats, CDs, him in carousel, shout out to Carousel for two, shout out to Duke.

Shout out to both of them. I ain't gonna say for no money now. Duke gave me some money out. I was probably like, you know, good looking, killing cool.

I don't know, deal with him to get none of that money that was coming out of the A-Builder. All right, ladies, come on. With Garb's bags of shirts and CDs and all types and I ain't none of that.

I ain't gonna know if none of them sits. So when things be like bad business, I'm gonna be trying to figure out what you're talking about. How we're on J.R., I told him possibly you. I can get you a deal.

Let's just wait and see how this does. They didn't want to wait, I ain't not going to hold it a month. Yeah, don't wait. Don't wait. Go do your deal.

I don't know how much they got. But I don't, it wasn't worth it because the sales gave back then the sales scam mattered.

When somebody, I won't came out first thing in big trouble,

what they did is first week, what they did to first week, what they did to first week. And if you didn't do good, that was bad for your second chance. And I was talking to Alan Grimm like about, you know, probably doing some solo projects there.

But they signed a Baby Grant and they sounds like came back, not looking good. And then when I go back to people to be like, yeah, what's up with them and like, now we get it. Because they wanted to get the money.

And I'm not going to, I ain't holding them up. Baby Grant and it is good luck. But they didn't work out for business with other people. I was doing business with.

“So that's what Niggas me like, yo, Kim, jerk Niggas.”

This time, there. Many on Niggas decided to me. I like everybody else. Go do the thing. Take the flag, make us look into the mother, make us look good.

Only person that can say something to the jewels. And when he wanted out, I let him out. So I don't know what Niggas me talking about. The get in the master's back. Was that from under you or they had to go to Baby Grant?

Because I heard them talking about getting the master's back. With somebody I have to come to you to get the master's back. No, no. No. I don't own many music, bro.

Show them, so I get all my master's back. I got my master's back from Atlantic and from, you know, one of brothers, but, you know, it's the 30-year term.

So, but two years, I get my sister's back from our first two albums.

And then we know that, and I'm, oh, come home with me a perfect way. So, because 30 years, Dev Jam has the right to it. And Sony has the right to it. Shout out to Joey, I, Ian, and Tom, Moscow is, which was a one of brothers. When we did to deal with the asylum, they had put it in the contract.

The way I have to six or seven years, I get my master's back for killer season. And I will get a crime, pays, and all that stuff. I got the master's or that. But no, I don't own many music, the master's. No.

No, I don't own shit, not many music, I guess. So, give me, give me something else. If you have a duo over on a certain, on a certain topic, or a certain business move, for God in Tim set, what would it be? Just one duo over.

“The only thing I would do over, the only thing I would do over to be totally honest with you is,”

when me and jouets fell out, that handle the situation, the way I handled the situation. You know, we fell, we don't need to talk about what we fell out over whatever, but I stopped speaking to him. He stopped speaking to me for a minute, and then that's kind of where him and Jim's relationship. Flourished, which I'm not mad at that, and he was. But jouets used to be with me, told me to do some of the jouets, jouets with me in Ohio,

jouets with me in Chicago, jouets with me in Jersey, jouets with me all the time, and they were me and him kind of fell out for a couple of months. He started being with Jim, and like I said, that ain't no problem.

And even, but our relationship never got back to where was that before we stopped speaking.

So if I knew the thing I had to do over, that I would do over, I wouldn't have handled the situation with jouets of just not speaking to him. I would have rather have a conversation and see if we could work things out in a better way, because after that, it just never was the same anymore. So that's probably what I would do over. You was at AST House a long time ago. First of all, I had to get the AST House down there, shout to the OG man, I was crazy.

But you said I'm a particular rapper, and now who you later became cool, it was active funny with you.

“You want to talk about what happened to that thing?”

Yeah, I don't know how I got the AST House. Wasn't his house or his office, and it was me, Jim. I don't even think jouets was what he had. There's a bigger matter of fact, me, Jim, Digger, and I don't know what, but it was definitely a street. And we was in the AST Show that's man love, bro. I think it was sort of man love. We didn't have an album yet. Yeah, it was just my single.

And I don't know how we got there, but I think it's sort of man love, he had a, you know, a lot going on back there, like 97 or some shit. He's 798. He showed his man love and then two short came in there. And we like, oh, shit, too short. We got a care in court of the old, you know, shit, newspaper. And we, you know, we fans, we knew. And we was like, oh, shit, too short. Oh, we can't believe his AST and too short.

Like, you'll turn that camera off, man. He was always in focus, like his tape.

He even dealt T with going on. Like, god damn, like, shit, short daughter, this man has cut the camera off.

“Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. You think, yeah, yeah, it's so for him. He's like, yeah, I think a T or you got some new nigga's up in here.”

Okay, I damn sure we, we just ended up not really speaking to sure no, show it was on the phone. Like, yeah, I got the, I just got the truck back the nice TK. He was like, sure, it was something. He said, now I just got truck all the cable channels for the nigga about 500 channels in the truck now. You know, we still got no money. We like, didn't they bring out five channels in the house? For the thing I got 500 channels in the truck. Now I'm on my AST and he had just cut this pony tail off his show.

It was like, you cut your head and he's like, yeah, they, I forget what show he said. They gave me 300,000.

They got that shit off. And they was just talking. But two show wasn't fucking with us at all. AST was magical. Then like, seven years later, six years later, we had a festival in North Carolina. We had line. I forget North Carolina for gingers dance on somewhere. We had line. And they could say, look, it motherfucking dips. That was something y'all. And I looked at it was too short. I'm like, I ain't seen a system. I'm like,

he probably don't know us. You know what I'm saying? He just think dips. I don't know what the fuck was an IST. Fucking office that day. He just think it's some new. He's because I don't know what he thought.

“He pressed us or so bad. He probably didn't even pay attention that it was us. I don't remember that it was us.”

And he was like, tips that I fuck with y'all and I'm like, I ain't more five in all. I could not like two shots. One nigga. I ain't even one reminder about that shit.

I was like, it'll look at your show. But I'm like, you never know. See, you just don't know.

Who are you going running to, man? And any given time, man. So shout the two shirts. I'll die see. But that's what happened at IST's office, man. Being that you mentioned the worst cause. All right, but before I get into that, you ever did that to anybody? You ever felt you did that to anybody? I know Dame said you did that to ASAP. But you never felt you did that to somebody that I kind of pressed them on other than beyond saying them.

I've never brushed off the earthly knee of birth. I do know what I mean. No, I didn't know who they were. Yeah. That's, I didn't impression them. I don't know. I may have, but not purposely. I'm very big one saying hello, taking a picture.

“I'm pretty sure somebody will say I have, but I'm not that I remember because I don't want to get”

tree. I like it. I remember I'm going to get tree like that. So if I can take a picture, get some baby, give somebody a hug. Whatever, I try to do that because that's my thing. It's that. I could get up. Like you see how you and Nick said I was late today. I could be late. Now I'm saying I'm going to say it like yo. I imagine having to get up. That's all because

you know your mind is super imagine having to get up at 6 o'clock in the morning, go to a bus stop. Way to the bus stop to take to the train to go to work for somebody that you know you smarter than. They trying to tell you what to do. Then you got to go back home when it's dark out and they like saving someone's coal and get on the train back to that bus to go back. That's people's lives and it is where there's no just I'm not belittling it because that was my life.

But I want to say them better. So I can know very easily that I can be doing that for a living, more of the story. So I can't just fail to help me get to where I'm at. I try not to. Now my two rules is if I'm in and if I'm in the movie there, like I said, I've been the movie there, it's like I'm looking at the movies. I hear how. I'm like, "Yeah, I'm looking down and going to sneak your cover." I get a lot of crap. Yo, it's dark in here, bro. You're my man. No, no,

want you to be using the movie there. There's no dismissal. You're after the movie. I got you. I wasn't in this movie, you know. I just can't because they said you was in here. Say, "Yo, make it now. You got away to movies over." Or from eating, I'll be like, "Yo, I don't really want to take pictures of me, but when I'm finished eating, I'll take it. No other days don't want me to accept it. I was in low lows in this girl. So I know you eating,

but if you know I'm eating, don't follow. Let's just take the picture." No, I don't like.

why do you say you're still bothering? If you hate to do it, yeah, I hate to bother you."

“All right, fine. Yeah, they're complaining. You don't come eating in low lows,”

by the way. They complain in that you don't. Yeah, let's sit down. Yeah, I mess with what I'm trying

to tell you. I don't go in low lows. That's the first time we're in low lows. I want to

“low those all the time, off the Uber East, but I'm talking about when I'm winning low lows one time.”

All right. I know you eating and all that, and then I usually don't do this. Nobody even know you any. I'm only one. They don't even know who you are. I'm only one.

“Say, "Were, that's for some. I hate that. What's up?" In a picture. Yeah, I guess. In the kitchen and in that”

line. Yeah, those only two times I really try. I probably, I'd say could you wait a minute. Well, before we go, you shine the man that Dana White interview, that's classic, man. See you really, yo, you're a journalistic shit, man.

First of all, I got to think, both of you guys nicked for putting it together.

Thank you. And Nick is well, both thank both of you guys for helping me out with the questions. And everything else, you know, we're a team up here. I can't do everything by myself. So all three of us did that Dana White interview to be totally honest, which I was just to want it for on the camera. But thank you both for helping out with questions and Nick for also putting it together. Absolutely. Well, man. I, man. Well, thank you all for tuning. We'll see you next week on talk with

hopefully.