Cam'ron Talks Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, XXL Nom, Mike Epps Apology + Dipset History | Talk With Flee

It's good everybody, welcome back to Talk with Flea Man,

“we appreciate you all tuning in another week, another dollar,”

my man freaky Ziki in the building, since City in the building, and of course, but I want to start to show real real quick before we bring Senate with this thing called entitlement. People have to stop thinking because they're somebody's cousin or somebody's friend or somebody's nephew or somebody's sister.

Somebody has something and they assume because they have it that you have it. People work hard for what they have. Let them offer it to you before you assume that you have access to whist theirs. Whist theirs is not necessarily yours now. That may be your sister or your cousin or your brother.

But that does not mean whist theirs is yours. You got to stop that shipment. You got to stop because you don't even know whist somebody got. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because Senate automatically thinks when he comes in town that he got to stay in my house.

I don't get that. That's crazy. Yeah, off the top.

Now I can people try to surprise me coming there.

But automatically he thinks he has to come to my house. Now y'all can tell us out there in the comments section if I'm wrong. He books a hotel. No, he doesn't book a hotel. I tell him once you book a hotel you can stay in my house. Which may sound crazy.

But it makes sense because it shows the initiative that you're taking to be responsible to be on your own. So last time he was in town. He called Zik because he knows the rules with me. He called Zika and say, you'll come pick me up and bring me to the crib.

Not to Z. He could come to the crib once he books a hotel. So he went and booked a hotel. And then he didn't have to stay at the hotel. He couldn't have my crib.

I say get the wardrobe for a story. I say get the biggest hotel in Nevada. You can get the right roof in.

Let me show it. Let me see the just showing the initiative to be on your own.

Now it's one thing, you know, somebody says yo. Yo, I'm going to be in town. I'm going to be in town. And I'm going to get a hotel. So you know, I think who, and then I'll be like,

No, you ain't y'all getting a hotel, man. You know, you can stay in my crib. And title man. Today's work. And title man.

Which guy? Yeah, I'll see you make a face good. We gotta see. So wait, time out.

“The only thing is do a skit and somehow I get in.”

Wait, time out. Listen, no, no, fuck, fuck that. Let me, it's, it's my girl. What's yours is ours. All right.

I'm, I'm not even going to tell you something. What's yours is out. Period. You got to think out. The pool.

The jicoose and all that. All that shit is ours. And we around. You, you know, you know, you're not, but what do I say? You've been swimming.

What do I say? You got to heat a swimming pool. What do I say? You've been in the pool. I'm, I'm actually, you know, Vemble. No, no, Vemble.

Okay. So, me and Z, we want to go swimming. What's up? You go to, I don't want to swim in all hotel. All hotels got pools down there. I don't want to swim in all hotel.

I want to come over there and swim. That's what I want to do. Yes.

“If you want to kind of tie the man and let it,”

no, listen, time out. The way you described it is like, it's not the word entitlement. It's, it's a must. All right. It's a must.

You got it. It didn't, you got four cars there. Yeah. You, you got Z get one. I get one. And you don't even, you don't even want to drive.

You don't, you call for everything. You call for food. You call for groceries. You call for a hand towel. What's that shit?

Tows. You get your laundry. Every day you don't, you don't go nowhere. So, yes, it's hours. My nigga, you just got to deal with that.

I don't, I don't know how else to tell you. Yeah, you, yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you bought it. All right. You got a big ass tank there. You don't even, you, you don't even have fun in there.

I tell you, let me get the charge. Let me do big truck series. You want to give me the truck. And I need to, I need to bring that to the east coast. Whatever, man.

Whatever. It's hours. It's hours. I, I don't know what I'm telling you. And then I, I, wait, is this right going some gold relationship?

That, her, her sister and all that shit.

That's different. Now, we all in this together. It's hours, bro.

“Now, see, this is what I'm talking about.”

Now, this is the problem, right? If you ain't got it, then show you could come over. Show you could spend the night pause. And you end up, what's your book?

No, tell you, end up standing miles anyway. That was all I ever requested. If you stayed in the hotel and wanted to come to my house to go swimming, nobody said that. You can't come to the house to go swimming.

I said, you can't spend the night there. Because you're not showing initiative to do things or in your room. Yes, you know what he says. You got a guest house. I got a guest house.

If I want to be a guest of my guest house. I see what you mean. I, my, well, now it's hours. All right. I don't want to argue with you no more hours.

But hold on, what I'm saying? If this is the thing, if you don't got it, then sure, you make it money. You got it. You get paid.

You pay weekly. And that's just on one show. You get paid on a couple shows. And I don't know what else you're doing. You got it.

And it's all if you ain't having it, then cool. Now I see what's going on. And this is why I love having you on our shows.

Because it's a million niggas out there thinking like you.

You don't call it an entitlement. You call it, it's a must. It's a must. Yeah. That sounds worse than entitlement.

It's a must. It's a must is crazy. It's a must. You make it. We all make it.

It's going to go. You made it. You made it. You made it. Listen.

Listen. I got to deal with that shit too. You're saying, let me hold it. Hey, man. I'm not even going.

I do with you. Yeah, man. You're saying you don't want that. No, I don't want it, man. Hold on.

Hold on. Everybody. Hold on. Everybody is missing the whole elephant in the room. Z got lined up.

Sin they say not in the killer. Or the me about what's really going on. I don't know shit about sin happening to get a hotel. Sin call me free. Come get me.

I don't conveniently. He ain't called killer now. I see why because he would have to get the hotel. Now I get all the way over the sin. Can't cause me.

And he says, you're picking up sin. I'm like, yeah. Why are you picking up sin? No, he goes go get a hotel. I said get a hotel.

I'm like, come on. Sin. I ain't known that. Now killer. I heard killer mumble.

“Well, you need to go get a hotel with him.”

That's what I thought I think he said. Now I'm in the middle of getting locked up. Because Sin ain't telling me what's going on. Cam didn't know that I was going to get sin. Sin, you could have told me some shit like that.

Now I'm in the middle of a game ready to have the book of room. Which you over in Treasure Island. So why? Why is freaky getting locked up with nobody? You're not telling me something like that, Sin.

Listen. I didn't know it was a real current book camp that's going on. I thought them days was over. I thought he used to make yourselves do certain shit. And he turned out the way he was a great rapper.

I remember all the stories. So I'm thinking like, okay, maybe them days is over. He ain't teaching them more lessons. No. Why is that?

Tell me. Why? You didn't pick me up from the airport. Larry said his assistant is to pick me up. And I was like, okay, that was like not.

Yeah. And I was like, no, I got my assistant's coming to get you. Like, how are you getting to, from the airport? I said, I'm gonna get a cab. So he said, no, no, no, no, no.

I got the assistant's coming to get you. So, okay, yeah, I'm a part of a show. I mean, I said, well, tell me over the camera. And that's when I said, yo, you know, Cam lives in the gator community.

So I said yo. Come meet me. I don't want to go to the store anyway. Get some extra shit. Tell me there's no code.

You have to talk to somebody. The line up. Same thing. Yeah, you need the code to tell them to get in right through the door. The door part.

Not to drive. It's secret password, actually, to get in.

“Anyway, that's not even, but that's what stuff is besides the point.”

It's called the title man. That's all I was doing. No, I call it hours. You can call it what you want. Yeah.

Well, yeah. Well, that's fine, man. And that just goes to show you what I've been doing for life. You talk about Jewels and things I've put them through or whatever.

The first world Jewels is my bro.

He turned like, you know, he's with me since he's a young man. Turned out to be a great human, a great older man. And a great rapper. But only thing that we did with Jewels is not let him leave the crib when he was young until he finished the rap.

And he didn't even know how to tell. So he wanted to be a rapper.

I was talking about me.

“I was suddenly getting to go climb a mountain.”

For this, you're talking about.

He was a rapper. And he wanted to be a rapper because he was good. We see this potential when we pushed his potential. What happened with Jewels is this. Jewels was a tough, didn't go to school anymore after 9th and 10th grade.

Because he said he went to school. Well, not said. He went to school. Because I can't understand what my teacher says. But what I wanted to do was not to study the whole world.

The master of the rap is called "the internet". So it's a master's real name. I'm saying, you can say that. You're a real man. You're a real man.

But you don't understand. You're a real man. You're a real man. You're a real man. You're a real man.

And when you work, you're a real man. That's right. What's the real man? You're a real man. You're a real man.

yet's cost no doubt for being for people that don't know where water to hates is that it's a part of man hat and there's predominantly Spanish and so with you as we're telling us is look I'm in English I'm in English class and the teachers are still speaking Spanish I'm not going back I can't understand what he with this and so we just said I bet if you don't want to go

to school and get a great rapper like you're a great rapper you've been a great rapper since 15 16 so he he's one of these kids that I've seen had it from the

very beginning but he wasn't motivated at first to do the songs and I get it

because he's in a rap group called the draft picks and he had a deal and the deal wasn't going good I've been there before so I said don't worry about I've been in the fucked-up situation so he's getting them out of that situation and once he got out we like it's time to go and you well just so good that he wouldn't do also so good make a hooks make a songs everything at some time he

wouldn't push himself to to to write the song so when we lived in Chicago when we lived in Ohio we used to be like yeah we're going to the club we were like let's go we were like no no no let me hear the song first and he wouldn't have the song done and we'd be like I used to hear we'll bring some bitches back I did not go into the club to a song but when we came back some of the best

“music was done that's how you get gangster music for us not letting them go”

to the club that's how you get seeing tennis town for him saying no you can't go out that's how you get those records and I'm trying to make you into a better person that's how you make you responsible yeah don't call silence hey man you I'm shit I know I ain't lying you I don't don't don't don't don't don't don't okay so don't even bring you us into this we see we kind of all the sea

became making you a better person for all this man prolific out the show on the yeah you right on the same show you said well I don't even know how to book a flight so so is this all all a lesson and stages my nigga like can we can be be done it's over pool jacuzzi mansion I'm in there bury it well we argue with me for there's no more arguing it's over oh

shit I said you know can I go to the store you know take the belly take the belly your brother they know that ain't a car you treat it like you as a silly other fucking 90s under my nigga like now take the belly I said now man I wait see I do have consideration for for nice things my nigga like I'm not just taking the belly I said you're I gotta go get a hat you know take

the belly I'm I'm not you don't even want to drive the the cars that you know you would normally see him and he want to drive you know the low cars that I want to be down low cars post you know I mean I'm not taking the belly I'll get give me give me the the car I want you know I mean I guess I there's no entitlements ours okay which is not even a third crazy give me the car I want

“I just worked to really get that out the way honestly feel how you want to”

feel it's a must as I was it actually isn't I was exactly mine I want you to have yours so I can come over to your crib and say wow this is great man I'm being told I must say I'm gonna get a hotel and then you say I mean you come to my crib and drive my cars with this that's all I'm saying but I'm

actually we never switched cars we never switched cars don't don't do that you

act like in the hole on now let me make it clear that the public I do have automobiles in the place to lay my head like don't know I just I get you know I mean but don't act like we know I'm always told to you know it's

city and and shit that you don't think people see you in but just so

what happened I had tent you like let me get that here you ain't even got to ask me twice take it that's that's just where I am I'm deciding that when I'm trying to explain this this is going over your head what I was trying to explain is the city that you're in I actually have a house in because they're too I'm talking about I want to land one day in Bramuda and

you be like all that spot out there you don't take the car I've been

“I'm two out and I have two spots out there that's what I'm saying”

I'm sorry you think you were a wife like a not trying stay don't let's

cold out there you're caught too loud yeah man you you ashamed of your age three two one young you got I see you're nominated for rapper co-host podcast of the year on double XL you know about that no you're a murderer for it is what it is oh yeah oh yeah that's what's up man yeah double XL you want to hit a list yeah sure is Joe Buttons you know it's worth a game Joe and Jada it is what it is let's rap about it

drink chips and best rap in LA yo it's double XL man it means something was it me yo smile man that was what does it mean you'll see you you you like about it yeah that's it's it's an accolade you know I'm saying it's an accolade and it's this is it should go landslide though it they should just name the people and be like what we already know

“who this goes to you know I'm saying that's how I feel I don't see nothing wrong with it”

was I can't face look like that I don't know I don't know I don't look like he was just listening I don't know what there you got what the fight it shout shout the Vanessa my home girl who ran double XL when it was a magazine and I've been on several double XL covers I think I did three or four double XL covers but I'm kind of like we're you're right sin with this situation and I know you'll be happy about this it's not the

magazine no more it's like everything's wrong line when it comes to this you know when you've been on covers of magazines and then it goes digital it's like damn man things are really changing which are I'm no problem with the changing but the answer to your question man I feel honored I appreciate it I don't know if Vanessa's in charge of this and that but Vanessa thank you for decades of love showing me not just being nominated

on for podcast of the year but for actually helping me get on several different double XL covers man if you Google camera on double XL magazine you'll see several different covers like it's one cover I actually did on on double XL magazine you know a lot of people and don't don't even matter whatever I say things you want to take the wrong way which I don't give a fuck so like even like no people get to be me something about some shit for showing

off and everything else for fashion I should say like for fashion like when I go to Genesis shout to Genesis that's where they was selling all the junk here in Mutton jackets I used to buy be me something about just to hold my pants up it really wasn't even for fashion for me and I remember doing the photo shoot for double XL and it's like you know what kind of belt is that nobody seen the belt before nobody was getting the belt like that I was kind of

first and again and now making a famous note that's not me making the bebe saw in the belt

statement like I said I wasn't buying them for fashion but I remember doing a magazine cover and it was like yeah what kind of fucking belt is that I'm like you I didn't even really remember it name my life worth just for Genesis like so six seven hundred dollars like you could we could you lift your shirt up and put in the magazine for the picture I'm like you know this wasn't really a time when niggas was showing me belts I'm like I lifted up a little bit

but if you look at the double XL cover you'll see the bebe saw in belt before everybody was

“even really wearing them when making a fashion boy I think I was used to this bottom sister”

home my pants up but shot the double XL because they actually whoever with that photographer was I don't know a photographer he actually seen it and was like not that needs to go in the um

you know the reason I'm really maybe not excited at this and I'll tell you like this right

“billboard came out with a sports list last week all the time people that's doing things in sports right”

did you see that listen no so they had a bunch of people doing things in sports I didn't see the whole list I was that my publicist actually was calling me to congratulate she we was talking about their business that she can graduate at me from making a list on billboard which I say thank you the billboard to for putting me in mace on the list of um notable people in sports

and when she was reading me the list and I don't mean any disrespect because people always

gonna take a disrespect I'm just putting that as a sidebar when she was reading me this list the list had Cardi B on it and I was like no no no not not not not the entertainment project is one of the sports part the people in sports she's like no she's in the sports part I said notable people in sports she said yeah they got in there I said what what what what so she showed up to the AFC chair being chip game she's been on the field lately she made an appearance of performing

it some basketball game and she's been more tuned in the football as of late and this is no slight to cry be I love her so I'd miss my sister I love her but niggas come to work five days a week to do this shit wake up stay up late watch shit trying to stay on top of topics put they hard in this shit to keep up with the other people this at the top of the game and then the Cardi B to make the list is notable people in sports I just didn't feel it was right and I love

Cardi I don't mean no slight time but think about all the other people who have podcasts who have radio shows without TV shows who's dedicated their life to doing this they didn't make that list list of lists people write their names and then becomes a list then people nominate you and

“then you're an nomination so maybe that's why I'm not as excited I'm saying that it's a”

lot to throw the air out for me for us guys I'm going you kind of went through that too when when you a murder first popped up on the sport scene you had on the sports niggas look like all these niggas rappers what they doing over here is that like the same thing that's going on I don't think so and that's a great point people may look at it like that yeah absolutely right but it wasn't like I was at home studying and annoying games and no to sport

is one thing knowing the sport or learning the sport you know I can I've limited knowledge but paying attention get information from agents get name information from players knowledge on playing the game I can't see him tell you what it's like to play an 82 game season in the MBA

or go to the play also want a championship I've never experienced it I can't tell you what it's like

to experience playing 17 weeks in an NFL or playing in the NFL playoffs or so on and so if I can't tell you what it's like to be a world champion boxer but I can tell you that I pay attention to what these people are doing to win championships or to lose games or to win boxing matches or to lose boxing matches and analyzing and giving you the best of my knowledge then I can and sometimes it comes across harsh because I'm not as in depth and I say

I'm not in depth I don't want to use that word sometimes I'm more round about and I've done my shit down so the average nigga can understand it where you have some athletes be like

“you know a lot of athletes not just me that's how people like Steven A Smith or other people”

you don't even play the game you know before the fight in your life you don't know

this time and third because we're given our opinion it's a lot of the niggas that've been

in the barbershop that's sort of cornered this on the street that's in the house given their opinion and we're just exchanging of what people are talking about with a little more knowledge because we know friends we have friends just in NFL we have friends just in the NBA we have friends that are boxes etc etc so sometimes we're taking a street conversation with a little bit more knowledge and paying attention to what's going on and then we make about our analysis as if I just

got seasoned tickets to the Dallas game and just show up and then I don't even comment on the game I just show up and now I'm in the I'm in a football night no disrespect the Cardi I don't know I got to ask my publicist for and that's basically me to be on a list I don't know if you're

or neither it took the it took the steam out of that room to the sports thing okay yeah child the billboard though thank you who said all that up like who's who's making this list up who makes the list up yeah no I'm not I know you don't know what it's like don't cardio don't cardio near you know like I've been saying no disrespect because

“it's a matter of the end of the day I think”

Cardi's phenomenal and not only phenomenal she knows how to keep her name in the media one thing for sure listen like when it comes to Cardi be her her rise to fame is

fucking amazing it's amazing got to realize she started off a dancer and then her

personality alone took her to is she's at now and I say she doesn't make good music because she does and everything else she has going on business wise this is all of personality this goes to show that you could win or personality and then she ends up getting good making good music whoever's hoping I make music and she knows how to deliver it and I say she doesn't write a little shit or whatever but she knows how to sell it and that matters you could

be the best rapper in the world but if you don't know how to sell it it ain't gonna matter

“do you have to be a salesman or salesman or salesman the Cardi's the best saleswoman there is”

and and the thing that makes it dope is that she's not being anybody but her son that's what makes it

dope I remember Cardi be had like a million when Instagram first came out she had like 7000

thousand followers when the first came out and she lost her page they got flagged and I was like damn man that girl I just followed a lot of page because she was funny I just thought she didn't do music anything I just followed and then she got her page back and then like a weekend house he had a million followers I'm like you know when people lose their page they paired it and fuck up and there's he started all over and got over a million followers I was like oh she long

go because when you lose your page people go crazy I gotta get my page back because you know nine times I'm telling you not gonna get the same followers amount of followers that you had originally

so when I seen that I knew she's gonna go I started following Cardi be because when I first looked

on the page it's like Instagram like fucking 12 13 14 years old now but I'll first see her page she said mmm this corn good it's like you're like no no no no no it's just fun to call her like I

“can't get I love me some corn I said this is crazy and that's how I started following”

then I would see at the gas stations I'd just love work she would be pumping her gas and underwear spinning her hair around pumping the gas at the gas and I said I like this bitch that bitch wow and that's how a lot of people from New York got on the Cardi be because of her personality which a lot of people know how people are our personality so for how to make any list of which you come from people don't understand you know

how bridges one to toughest neighborhoods and the Bronx so for how to make it to wish yet now it's definitely achievement this takes nothing away from what Cardi be has going on I'm just saying what's the criteria to make some of these lists or to be nominated for some of these awards okay um how are you feel about well I know how we feel about it it's a sensitive comment that we in but it's so sensitive to where I just see Mike Epps making a apology video he has

some jokes about Nikki on stage and whatever and I just can't remember like people being joked on and having to apologize comedians make a joke about people having to apologize later how you feel about that you think you think that he's catering to the sensitive moment oh you think he should have just left it alone what you think about that because Mike said Epps is a funny nigga man very funny shot to my brother Mike Epps as well you said it said look

we're in a sensitive time right it doesn't matter if it's something Nikki and Mike you know that's my brother and my sister I'd be for anyone I'm just saying the times we live in I remember coming heart right and he had a stand up during the pandemic and he said he was making a joke he was joking but it wasn't joking he made a joke right about people were one arm he's like listen I I want no problem with the one arm community I know beef with people were one arm I don't want no problems

none at all and he's making a joke but it wasn't a joke because now we are in the sensitive climate to where you can't even make a joke because if you make a joke about somebody who went on they'll team up with me it's just like a laugh I'm just not it's upset because it's a group

you think every thing is a joke because you all got two arms and now

and now come out work and there's 92 people were one arm outside of your job they don't arm me oh you said it not me I didn't say this but I remember coming heart making a joke similar that because you don't want problems with nobody you don't know what type of groups of people out there now back to the mic ab situation right mic apps can even finish the joke if

so put this in context with sinners talking about right mic apps made a joke about Nicky being with Donald Trump before the joke was over you have females in the crowd might must not have known the bombs was in the crowd the Nicki Minaj bomb might come finish the joke

“and there's like yo you better watch some I don't remember that purpose but they say a yo be”

easy with all that Nicki Minaj shit we ain't playing all that Nicki Minaj sland it might say bitch shut up but before he could probably get off stage Nicki the bar was that's Nicki's cult of following fun you know just keeping everybody abreast of what we're talking about they got it make apps before he could finish the joke if you listen if you go back and watch that shit right mic up said not I'm about Nicki just said there and it's like yo watch a moment

about Nicki make some shut up bitch I don't know what I'd be saying I'm just trying to do this out I don't even know what I really be saying I don't know when I'm talking about that in the turn to the day day he even know what the fuck happened and so then you're right after that he wouldn't have made an apology but um to it's a question saying yeah we in a real sensitive sensitive time right now and it's sad because and I'm not telling my mic up to Nicki and

I'm telling my just career because Nicki goes off for everybody order to everything you know it's all the time see what I'd be looking like no I want no smoke with Nicki Nicki going off

“for 17 days on certain niggas big Nicki don't be having it man so I think that's part of it too”

not just that it was Nicki the all slut that Nicki would be on x and Twitter Instagram doing the mic apps I don't know mic apps wanted that problem every day because it ain't just Nicki it's a gang that will get on mic apps about it so that may be part of the reason why he said let me

get this over with some apology over with now so that's first the foremost but yeah we just in a

sensitive time with anything you know this supposed to be where you know Nicki's gonna be like yo free speech free speech no fucking a free speech there's not free speech there's not free speech there's not a lot I that should went out the window years ago you can't say nothing and that's just picking and choosing what you want to say and what you don't want to say and who you could talk about and who you can't talk about it's got lies these days you can't

talk about anything everything is hate the so much hate yeah he didn't protested he didn't personally hate him on everything man so yeah it's a sense of the time but in in that guideline that's crazy you said that like a fair guideline this is true it's very true oh shit well in case you didn't know we got like people in jails watches like up there in bed hill and review shout out to my people as I just spoke to bigger and science and yeah the question

science was like yo how can and coach prime get so cool with each other I said yo that's a good

“question man my accent man so how did you meet coach prime not and I think when I say coach prime”

I mean the our sand is not always boy his sneakers and thought he was a phenomenal athlete

so to see that you're cool it is kind of you know it is kind of crazy and dope at the same time but how did you meet coach prime how y'all got so cool that's a good ask question I don't know how my coach prime and they mean like I know that long and more for the know how man they might have you don't know what it was I think exactly when my coach prime met I believe when he when he got

a coach prime fan gotta realize I went to college in course again in Texas which is probably our maybe 50 minute drive from Dallas um and T.R. was a big deal in Texas even though he said

“49ers then he came to the Dallas um Cowboys yeah I had a club out there I think it was called”

club 21 I don't even remember but I remember on the weekends the girls used to be like yo I used to because I had to stay on campus I'm from New York I was playing sports I couldn't leave I'm like you go back home later we go back home we go on the club 21 DN on sand is club and I'm like yeah I wish I could go to one day so the girls would just leave man on every week and maybe we'd be talking about going back to Dallas to clubs I'm on my team and I wonder

with that's like I never really got to go to Dallas until the holidays I had to stay in school

and not just that dear much we got to say and talk about the else career we know his they got to flamboyant we know this nigga wasn't just flamboyant he was producing on the field and I've always been a fan like since that dumb sneakers it's funny that I remember for my 19 birthday and being in college that I got a Joe Montana jersey from I'm my girl at the time

“from Crossbees I don't know if you ever remember Crossbees it was the store in Madison Square Garden”

this sort of official jerseys because you got them you know everything else you went out of fake jerseys so she spent like 600 dollars to give me Joe Montana jersey and the DNC of the sneakers man from Marmurfdale is excited but back to I met a I'm going to Colorado and support and what he had going on leaving Jackson and you know just being part of him getting to be a D1 coach and I want to help him to move him out and he just took a liking to me man and he

liked what we were doing on this night's part of me not on this show but on it is what it is because he respected it you know DN is a real person and when I say a real person he understands where a lot of minorities have to have to come from to get the way they have to go especially athletes if you watched him I've been watching DN on TV since Shadore and then was three

“four years old when he had a reality show or operation that work you know I'm saying they was”

three him shallow DN Junior Shadore they was being on TV since they were kids a nice to

watch that show and he was coaching high school man and he always said to those kids be the best

that you can be to get out the situation that you are now and I used to praise that you know how he's talking about jewels and even myself you know I'm saying like yeah we got to make this work so we all can get out of our situations and when I'm even you know back to jewels I was already living in Jersey everything else but I want to stay living in Jersey you know I'm saying I didn't want to go backwards but host problems took a

liking to me and and you know actually if it was for him Michael Irvin when he even been on it is when it is after O.J. Simpson passed away we used to like him a weekend in Mike Irvin because you can't replace O.J. O.J. O.J. O.J. but we like Mike got that personality that were actually viable with me and Mays had gone on and when I called D on I was saying yeah you could plug me on Mike he said here's my number and he was like

I was like yeah but you might want to make them true. He said me and Mike real man yeah I call him he got to order such a thing Michael for one of us killer yeah I got in calling him I was like word and I call Mike directly and we negotiated everything then but he just took a liking to us because of what we were doing with the show and then when I

went to go with Colorado he always showed love and everything else and we talked on the

phone he he loves this show man he called me about about an episode or two ago and we're saying you know he loves this show we won't get into what it was about but he was just saying how much he loves to show and I appreciate that from him you know I deal with D on this and I leave it with this we went to a game a Colorado game and he sees I was on the sideline he said okay okay I'm you here today

why's this why's this a point at so I'm sitting down on the sideline he drew up a plate they did some shit and on the first plan again this worked every day I love first plan again they scored a touchdown and looked at me like yeah and then she would I do see what I do only reason there wasn't a touchdown they got caught back on the penalty but I was like damn that was dope this didn't you know pointed at me and said why's this

nigga score the touchdown and shrugged off and did he bought to him he said yeah

yeah that's the type of attitude he has so something goes wrong man that's one big bro for it thank you for everything I appreciate yeah that's dope before the next question I want to go back to the

“double exit I just want to say that if you want to put talking fully up there for nominees next year”

I care I would appreciate it you know but yeah for that said yeah we care you know you don't care but we do so to be nominated next year that'll be super dope fast I'm gonna score more in the worst show this is what I'm gonna do yeah I'm gonna get trophies yeah yeah I'm gonna do my I'm gonna get the battle yeah we're gonna talk about the battle that's gonna be live like

some people can see yeah we finally got the day there's gonna be March 28 we got my nigga

Omp first my girl body this is gonna be a real good one man I'm sorry to everybody who actually who participated in the killer countdown you go back and watch all the battles leading up to this battle actually we'll do but the week and two before the actual battle we

“showed was so we're led to the championship on something my man had ice forgetting all the”

battle rappers together we really appreciate you putting this thing together wolf thank you so much nice yeah we're gonna get this done without you but the last two people is Bonnie versus Omp and we should be a good it shouldn't be a good he doesn't just come to their headlining a four day of rap battles not people that were in the killer countdown but just other battles going on that day shot to my man gas at the gas station spotted Vegas so while more information

come but the killer countdown will be Omp versus Barney March 28 so

question always wonder actually you never found that with and you know everybody has grown up

and it's over with but you you never found that with that y'all was beef from with Junior Mafia when Biggie was the one that put you on and that was his people who was like you ever you ever like thought about that show like damn they like this is kind of crazy now I really find it weird because big wasn't there when we wouldn't know what that was going on and to be honest with you to me the way they probably felt was how can get it here we've been here how can get a 600 he

came out of 600 under record there we what the fuck we've been doing this whole time that we don't have a record deal and we ain't got cars and so on and so forth and being that I was working what on that's probably something I'd had to deal with knowing all those people in Junior Mafia you know I'm saying so I'm trying to think of a way to put it the similar right like can't even think of a situation but I could I get it I get it I was the new kid around I was doing

business with one of unspartners that Biggie was like I said Biggie was unspartner and you got Biggie's cruis said what the fuck is going on I don't know what they had it didn't have but I understand that a nigga that's not from inside their circle getting pushed to the forefront before maybe those guys got pushed to the forefront but at the same time there's no disrespect to them anything else I was

“waiting around you know I'm saying I was waiting for a little seesaw so that's what I'm saying”

like that like you know the I was all now I want to say it together but you came out with Biggie no found you you wrote a song for C so when y'all started beef and that's what I'm saying like

you have never really been I don't have a really beef with them nigga I wasn't beef with them

legs I know you never heard me like you fuck them niggas or this I never never came around mouth actually if you think look back in my first video ever it's me little sees and somebody else for a soundtrack I was doing casserole the woo yeah for the woo I don't know the woo soundtrack I think was 357 it was before how to be a player yeah okay yeah right there you know how to be a player like I did a video does my first video ever I know it was beef with

them niggas like to see a day out of two with me but um I never proper with them niggas you know should just happen computers pun you're from a lyrical background to some that would that wouldn't be so lyrical but it worked it was very catchy did you realize that that phrase right there we get so much recognition because some people don't like it and some people love it like did you realize it was gonna get that many like reviews on that one little catchy phrase no I just was

not at the time I just was right and at that time I got to realize we write and uh we just

“write in a thousand miles we write in a thousand songs a minute and of course I'm exaggerating”

but uh not saying I was rushing the song because we just having fun writing music we want to get to finish one song get to the next song we was just in our bag at that time writing a lot of music so I didn't put that much thought into it at the time and like you said some people would be like

always corny and some people would be like no you got to understand what Putin is and you know niggas

got my back maybe break down the word and everything else but now for people to still be talking about it this long with this many songs um I've done over my career I look as a as a parliament out of female who bought some of my attention shot to my home girl Donna Donna's the one who actually bought this to my attention then I and then not she bought it to my attention then two of her home girls bought it up to that they they don't even know each other and they was like here my

feel like you come and responsible my niggas is talking saying this down third I mean when you said that the computer's ain't cute and now everybody talked about the math ain't math and yeah oh yeah

I don't know if you know this this shirt ain't certain you like she did yeah and she's like

I kind of think you started when I'm like yeah yeah you got to do what I'm doing yeah we're talking about she went back to my attention she's like I feel you're like responsible for that I'm like yeah I'm not a fucking I am you right right so we're not at the time I'm going to put that much story to that okay yeah now we we we went through the whole Hispanic everybody judging the Hispanic Super Bowl and everything which I I didn't have a problem with you know

what is what I don't even want to say anything but O.G. Park Garcia asked did you ever think of doing dipset Latin Latino or because you had dipset and London or whatever it's a two-part

question and why you never participated in the reggae song because he knows that Dame

and Norrie was doing that or whatever like so it's two-part question and what's the first part will you repeat it one more time the first part did you ever think about doing dipset latino man we couldn't get the black dipset together man it's just just just just just say you well yeah you try to get the black one together before we go out to latino and all that man just get the nigga one together that's never fully day when it was supposed to do so of course

“I would have wanted to branch on do all the music at the time but I think the one thing to be”

totally honest with you and not and this is a real thing right and we are I don't really talk about him that much period not not for no reason or whatever but I started this whole shit with my childhood friend and I went to school with my man digger and when we started doing this shit together because he was the one really doing music more than all of us to be honest with you I just knew everybody digger is a nigga who did mad beats he used to be boxed new graffiti

break dance in lecture buggy he was a straight straight B boy but he had come out alive and I don't mean I know bad what he used to be in the house focusing on his crowd like when niggas be like how niggas know everybody and I talked about digger I'm talking about a general right I'm really the doc connector or how everybody knows everybody do else don't know Jim Jim don't know Jwells Jwells don't know Duke the God do the God normal mace mace came on tail and met and met

uh big out blood don't know more fucking a gruff I knew everybody so when people be trying to X me out that's all my digger just people know y'all don't know each other without me you know I'm saying what if I get along with niggas and don't get along niggas when I don't be trying to do it's rewrite history well about fuck with you it don't fuck with you I don't be trying to

“discredit how shit happen and that's what a lot of niggas try to do to rewrite history”

but everybody knows everybody for me nobody knows each other we read you else that's it on on well you know for you that's what you that's what you that's what i'm saying and told to told shout the toe told someone who introduced me to jwells okay no we was going to see jwells let's say that but the point me not only more credit for that I should I'm just saying 'cause I like to connect the dots like for instance right right now suit right I give you an example

we're talking about it my man Furgie baby shout the Furgie baby man uh real dope I want this coming

out of Harlem me from my hood and all that shit I didn't go out with them he's a age gap but he's from my neighborhood shout the Furgie baby real real dope artists and actually just so when I'm gonna come out one of these eight souls or whatever and I knew ace at Furg which is an ace at Furg any more he's just Furg but I was just one child no I'm talking about and I told ace at Furg I asked ace at Furg and I told them y'all I think it'd be dope if you get on this song

with this dude Furgie baby he's up and coming he's dope he's a good lyricist plus he knows how to make music Furgie baby pardon me ace at Furg I heard the song and jumped on it on the remix of one of Furgie baby song and that shit took off their Harlem like everybody's playing it it's been doing good the streams it go around well he saw the empire and you know it I'm glad I could put that together but I won't even bring that up I'm not gonna hit a bring it up it's more like

I'll be trying to help Niggas out there make sense I'm not making no money off that record I don't know credit for it I'm just saying like this Niggas dope ace at Furg I got the vibe put this together make Harlem look good boom that's dope to me but then Niggas are trying to act you out you know I'm saying I told my Furg or Furgie baby anything we told my son now so I just bought that up to say that I'm still out here trying to connect the dots with certain

Niggas to make them better better situation you know I'm saying it's like I'm in like Jimmy Avie and I'm not gonna care myself to Jimmy Avie Jimmy Avie and like you know he'll go back and see he's Dr. Drake for some money oh you like you like this white nigga I mean I'm he son let's let me see if I'll put y'all two ladies together see if it makes us look what kind of sense that make Jimmy Avie and another story he'll come in and sit there say

you know Jay let's make some sneakers Jay like I ain't no fashion thing I want to make sneakers

“okay Jay if you want to make someone do you make I like headphones I like speakers oh that's a good”

idea let me I'll be right back go find the technology go find the guy I came up with this beast by Jay yeah I like that let's put up Jimmy Avie's a dot connector and that's what I'll be trying to do now back to dollars originally saying when I was talking about when you asked about Latino Dipset reason I went through that whole realm is because Digger was my partner and I was connected and that's putting everything together and he was very very musically inclined and had a really

good vision I remember probably like in 2000 one maybe maybe two that maybe 1991 I don't even think it's 2001 they're modern 1999 Digger was like you know one of these days all these tapes of CDs gonna be obsolete and all you're gonna need is a computer to get music and we looked at the nigga like it's crazy the fuck is you talking about it just a computer yeah he said

“I said like in 1999 I remember looking down on like yeah I think he did Jackson's man”

fuck is he talking about man he was right but the reason I break him up and the reason I bring him up in this particular conversation is because when you was talking about Latino Dipset and I was like we couldn't even get the black Dipset together you know we had a great great time and a great

run but people don't realize the run wasn't as big as people think the first diplomat album came

out even though let's say the first mixed tape the first mixed tape came out 2001 the ship was over in 2006 2007 it was over so we had like a six year run and the movement looks bigger than one that was because we was flamboyant and we were making noise and we dressed good and so on and so forth but we got really one and a half diplomat albums everybody else got they solo albums but it's not like it was a big big musical movement as far as us collectively 12's got his album like

out my own drill I was guy I'm Jimmy I his albums how well in jail whatever Duke the guy got

“full albums but it wasn't moving freaky ziki soy's being guys about that Z got his album that's what I'm”

saying when you name off you name off you first thing you come home from jail I say he go to the

bench he go to pop me he go to keys and he go wrecking deal well this should I do where no nobody came as a side not you came came home yeah why you got put out Z since you did ready no I was acting free you know why he you know why he I put out his niggas like you didn't title me y'all didn't make sure that he didn't drink y'all didn't make sure he didn't drink all you want to do is use this crib to bring bitches over there yeah y'all things will come over

there drink up liquor and do everything else run over the motherfucking barricade to sit to get in the building right up yeah you know it's too late for you to walk in them and say Z we need to get

was done taking of it this is the shit a musk by me the liquor yeah these are buying it and they say it's a musk right there's a musk and you know what you know what Z I'm going to tell you one thing for that he says I miss John Z this what he says he said it is he says what kind of shit is that no joke Z what how bad it is when he drinks but this is the shit he missed anyway let me

“finish my point there was a musk it's a musk yeah but let me finish my point if you want to come”

back to this we check the reason I'm like I said the reason I'm bringing dig up is because all of us were rappers you know Jim was directly video C turned out to be a rapper Z and then I'll be in a rapping you well this rappers everybody rapper and dig this dig out a good business sense but once me have fell out I can't remember what we fell out over but once we fell out I think he wanted you know we used to a dip set and I think he wanted to start his own company called six

figure and dip set didn't even take off at the time and I remember when we was getting diplomat tattoos and I'm like yo when you want to get a diplomat tattoo he's like when we get some real artists because he ain't believe in jewels and jimmyt that time and and jewels I mean jewels to me you

know he had some taste that he wasn't as good in the studio but he was always ready Jim

Jim was learning and still getting better and better and better and better week by week but you know dig it one of these niggas with no patience and I we all got diplomat tattoos I said when we get them we get some real artists I like I damn man and he think it's a chance then he started six figure entertainment I might damn make a branch stuff before we we got this rocket but I think if he was a part of the movement for some reason we fell out

before the actual deal deal went through but I think if he was a part of the movement everything might have went a little smoother because he wasn't trying to be a rapper we needed somebody in our corner who wasn't just being a rapper or entertainer to some time take that out of honest mode to say look this isn't going right or this isn't conducive to what we have go forward can we need to move like this move like that but at the same time I'm a business man

this is my first time having a rocket label I mean I did a hundred things wrong versus 20 things

right but I think we needed somebody outside of that and it wouldn't be dame because dame was just helping us do what we want to do he had his own label to take care you know I mean so some people like my wife and dame do a dame what you're not for a long he did was give us an opportunity to

“do what we want to do so that's why we ain't do dipset like cossack and flake open”

wait was was what's your favorite beat from digger that everybody heard uh my favorite they had a lot of beats are like well I won't say that everybody heard you know digger did the beat 357 um he did the beat with with Dutch and spade he did um can't stop most of that yeah that ain't my beat of um we talk about his catalog he did many men for 50 set but my favorite beat from me the digger did that I could think of top my hardest probably a song on an SDE called

double up yeah I like that beat a lot yeah yeah I ain't even know you did that back to music I don't know we got to go but I don't want to see you wait you go you're gonna sign it and say I was part of the problem I kept I let you drink you really gonna get our own on this TV

and say that shit bro yeah I wasn't always that you drink I'm gonna tell you why because

“you had access to all the cars and that's what you would do you were getting the S5 the”

Z truck you need to get back in the house you would kindly get me back to the house and then put me in the room with a bottle and next thing I know you got your wine bottle because you ain't want drink liquor you used to drink wine you know you used to drink wine with the glass a lot on Sunday okay so you don't drink wine that's that's okay I did drink wine but I didn't try to put you in the room I try to keep you with you had the S5 you wanted me but that's that's

no hear no they're saying I'm just trying to explain what you're trying to get you drunk put you in the room and then and then take your car frolic almost crazy across Harlem in the S5 50 and in the arm the limited edition challenger do you see how's it let's keep that real you know you know what just for that muting man muting man muting man muting man muting man yeah yeah that's the type with shit I'm telling you by each other by like the junk Z

better put you in the room basically get you drunk to take your car and use your apartment to do the shit that he wanted it was a must it's a must well and then with that man we'll see

oh shit.