Bill Kristol: Make It the Summer of Epstein

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It is Monday. So of course we are here with Editor at Large Bill. Crystal. There's so much news to talk about. We're going to try to carve out some time for the NBA at the end.

Since Donald Trump is stallying the beauty of the NBA finals at Bill. How you doing? Good weekend for you. Yeah, good. Good.

The next. Maybe not where that. The next looks strong. We'll get to that at the end. We'll race to all the other topics.

I think that's the next. You're looking nice in that green polo. It's good color for you. All right. Let's talk about what's happening in Iran.

I'm just going to run through the last 24 hours. We're very much deep into the Groundhog Day portion of the Iran war. But here we go. Yesterday Israel is carrying out strikes against Hezbollah forces in Bay Route. This prompted Iran.

To fire missiles at Israel. Trump then urged Israel not to return fire and for both sides just stop shooting. Really strong. That's a strong man right there. Say, after you've been bombed.

Do nothing.

Israel never the less responded.

They were not moved by Donald Trump's pleas. They launched air strikes against Iran. Early this morning. Following that, Iran announced that their halting military action in Israel. Israel continues to strike Lebanon.

Axios's Barack Revidd posted another siren alarm tweet about how Trump says we are in a ceasefire. And a deal is coming soon. And the stock market is up. So I don't know what you make of all that. Some senses increase in hostilities in another way.

It's just kind of a different version of the same story that we've seen for the last hundred days or so. Yeah. I do think it's a Groundhog Day pretty much. I mean, a couple of little tidbits that are amusing. But depressing about our commander chief.

He seems to have called your friend Barack Revidd Axios before calling BB to directly tell him not to retaliate. He was like, I didn't, I mean, isn't it right? Yeah, talk to several reporters. There's a New York Post reporter. He also spoke to.

There's a third one I'm forgetting.

It's unusual management of the war. Certainly to, you know, have the ally that you're in war with. For better or worse, get attacked. And then for you to immediately start telling media outlets that you want them not to retaliate. And you're about to call their prime minister to tell them not to tell.

“I think the gulf between Trump and his and Yahoo.”

And really between the US and Israel is probably greater than. Then they're letting on and then we might, you know, think given history and given it both real history of over decades. But also history of Trump and BB, which has been a lot of close coordination, obviously. And let's not forget that we got into this war. It's urging, I don't know, it's these allowed to urge the US to do it.

I'm not think it's, I don't think it proves anything in appropriate. But he urge the US to do it had this moment of opportunity to bump off the top leadership. And we took it. So I wonder really where once this ends and I kind of still think it will. This Trump really, really, really doesn't want to take it to continue as we've seen.

It will end, of course, with Iran having some ability to just shut the. Straight again. I mean, it's not going to be true free passage. We've gotten those to nuclear program that kick that down the road, I suppose. They'll range to get some money to Iran through the Gulf States.

All of our allies will have lost total faith in us. But I think one thing that will happen over the next several months. I wouldn't be surprised to see the administration turn against this real. And then you really have an interesting moment right from Aga and for the Republican party. I think I definitely agree that's possible a couple of other ways to look at this.

I don't think this is happening right now, but I think it bears mentioning that. Trump and BB have done the good cop bad cop thing in the past.

“It doesn't appear that that's what's happening now, you know, where Trump kind of pretended like he wanted peace and to give cover for BB to continue to prosecute wars.”

We saw this in Gaza and other places. So it's possible. I don't think that's what's happening now, but it bears mentioning. I think the one element of what happened yesterday that.

If there are continued hostilities between Israel and Hasbala and Israel and Iran.

“And if Trump can't contain that or can't credibly say that he wants to contain that in an negotiation.”

I do think that further complicates, you know, his idea to get a final deal. I mean, Iran's. It's hard to even say what what each side's terms are to end the war because because the ball is moving on both sides a lot. You can't really trust anything coming out of, you know, either party, but if you take, you know, Iran stated metrics for ending the war, you know, one of them is tell Israel to stop attacking Lebanon. They want reparations for the finances lost, you know, they want, you know, some some element of control of its straightforward moves and they want Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.

And if Trump can't promise that as part of the deal, then that complicates the deal somewhat. And I do think that that's kind of the one development from yesterday that that is, that's new-ish and relevant. And it highlights the fact that Iran has made this a demand and has been treated seriously to demand. So the Trump is, in fact, telling BB, hey, lay off on Hasbala too much because it's going to screw up the, the deal with Iran. But that's really amazing what you think about it.

All of Israeli strategy for the last several years has been, it's been quite successful incidentally in totally degrading Hasbala and limiting that threat obviously post October 7th. And that was related and then attacking Iran, you know, for other reasons, one of the reasons being to weaken Iran's hold on its proxies. And that's been the, and then they seem to be doing a pretty good job of that until this war. I mean, one of the 19 different bad effects of this war is that it's restored Iran's ability to have to claim control and pilot exercise control.

So control over its proxies and make it attack on Hasbala and attack on Iran.

That was never arose incidentally positioned or policy in the past.

They might talk to good game, but they never actually got into fights because Israel went into Lebanon. And they'd like that. I mean, they might do a little terrorism on the side. But the actual launch of missiles against Israel. So the extent to the damage Trump has done to US credibility, US foreign policy, all of our allies interest.

It's a pretty astonishing achievement, you know, for one stupid war. I guess the last thing I've said the several times, but I kind of note, ever want this topic to go by anymore without mentioning just how humiliating and weak it is. Just because like it is truly unimaginable. That that Barack Obama would do something like this, start a war, demand unconditional surrender and then start tweeting. Please, baby, don't bomb.

I mean, honestly, like the people at Fox News could not contain themselves. I'm talking about, you know, how much he's a bicycle riding, a rugolating, you know, weak leftists. I and Trump has demonstrated more weakness than less resolve than any president that we've had in modern times in this war. And I just think that continues to bear mentioning speaking of Trump being weak and erratic. He was on meet the press yesterday and could not handle the tough questions from Kristen Welker.

And at a temper tantrum stormed off, I did a full, you know, sports center style breakdown of the tape over on the board takes feed.

“If you want to check that out, but I was just wondering, Bill, what you're in a big picture of thoughts were on the interview.”

I Trump goes real domestic, it's in Wisconsin, ostensibly as part of some proactive messaging about how the administration is caring about farm country. And despite the fact that farm country is getting investigated by their policies. And so, you know, they were there by some big tractors. The rain was hitting the barn roof and so the audio is very strange. And he ends up melting down, I'm leaving on the topic of the 2020 election, but there's a bunch of other stuff in there too. I don't know what struck you.

No, I think your coverage is excellent and people should watch that and then they can skip the interview. They were going to watch it anyway. I've got to think I certainly didn't, but you see clips of it in your coverage, so that's good. The 2020 election, again, people treated a little bit too much like, well, he's obsessed with it. It's kind of weird. He's obsessed with it because he's going to try to do it again.

“I do think that's why he's so both insistent on promoting the lie at an every opportunity, but also very sort of sensitive about the discussion of the lie.”

Extremely sensitive. What do you make of that? I mean, you watched the whole show so you didn't have to. And commented at it, what is going on with him? I like to turn the George Con way for armchair psychological analysis of Trump, but since he's still in the campaign, I'll do my best to fill the role.

You ever get into a fight, I'm sure this never happens to you, Bill, with your spouse, where you kind of know that you're wrong.

And there's one point in which you sort of know that they have you, but you don't want to give in because for whatever reason you're defensive, you're in a grumpy mood, you want to make your broader point. And so you kind of go over the top, you know, you lose your cool a little bit because somewhere deep down, you know, you know that they have you.

And he's there in these very managed settings where he can just, if he does get a hard question, he just like calls get on Collins ugly or whatever, and then moves on to the next person, right?

And that's how he behaves. So it seems like he's getting on, but he's never really getting challenged on this stuff. And and Kristen, I really wasn't even challenging that hard. It was just she was doing the natural report, I think following up saying like you don't have any evidence of this.

“It's relevant now in particular for a couple of reasons, one of these making up lies about California and two, he wants to give that slush fund to the people who are allegedly victims of, you know, his lies.”

And so he can't like provide any actual evidence or data. And so he ends up lashing out. And I think it's extremely important. I thought Charlie Gasperino, Fox News, being like, our Fox business, being like, why don't we even care about this anymore. It's five years old. It's like, it's extremely relevant to the policies he's putting forth right now. Whether you want to get appointed to cabinet level positions, the slush fund, California, their plans for the midterms. And it all is related to his, like, delusion, self delusions about 2020.

When a location where you're saying, though, is that as he's popular to go down and it gets the sense that maybe he won't be able to pull off a soft. He won't be able to do it all by elections, legitimately, and that he worries maybe won't be able to pull it even off with guilty and ranching all these people, even if they get in. He gets more desperate. He gets more radicalized, right? I guess that's the way to say it, right? Though the anger would fit in with a sort of increased disregard for, I don't care what.

People say about it, I don't care. People can tell me it looks bad or I'm losing Swiss swing voters. He doesn't care at this point. Last thing out, I'd really, in my psychological analysis, it's probably less that you are me in a fight with our spouse, and it's more like a child.

Or when I was a kid, I'd change my report card in sixth grade, which I did one time. You know, and then I finally got calls.

Finally got calls for the mad on it. You better not run for office.

“You have to be thick, big, yeah. I know. The most embarrassing thing is I think I just changed a minus to a plus.”

I don't know, it's something extremely embarrassing, but whatever it was, I got caught. It's like you first, before getting to acceptance and asking for apologies, it's like tantrum, you know, screaming. How could you accuse me of this? And there is a little bit of that. He's like a child having a tantrum, and I do think that he will, that it will, you know, continue to get more and more alarming, you know, as, as we get closer to the end. So that's the thing, we can start about.

But the good news is, Tim, that the Republican members of Congress, they see what you see. And they act accordingly. They're going to act accordingly. They're going to, a lot of guardrails and plays, and check him, and not just go along.

“As they know, I dangerous would be just to passively go along with this, increasingly deranged at authoritarian president.”

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Which I expected this year for reasons we've discussed before, which is that, you know, on the one hand you could have kept him is acting in the next year. But then he's not confirmable.

The basically the options for Trump was to try to confirm in this year when he yet they have a Senate majority that's big enough to potentially do it.

Or going to do a musical chairs of acting attorneys general for the rest of the term and they soon be going through the formal route, which I guess is not nothing.

And it just that obvious point, there are many lawyers and judges who haven't had a real on many Republican lawyers in the country and unfortunately quite a number of them are pro Trump.

Some of them would even have, you know, some qualifications to be nominated as the Attorney General members of Congress judges anyways, I've worth getting into because he's chosen one man, Tom Blanche, and what's the one most distinctive thing he's done, he organized and executed the Epstein cover up. That's that's his claim to fame, right? He, I mean on Panbody testified about 10 days ago and really explained.

“I mean, she was partly just ducking, but she was, I think, telling the truth, this was Todd's baby and he did it.”

And I just go through some of the things he said in the course of both executing the cover up. That's a famous visit to a galane Maxwell and then the moving her to the nicer facility as a reminder that she could be reinterested to keep quiet about Trump and maybe better things will be coming at some point down the road.

Trump hasn't moved out of pardon there.

And then obviously he's been publicly out there defending Epstein or she calls him Mr. Epstein. I was really struck by that in the interview with Laura Ingram where he says he makes this astonishing comment, it's gotten a lot of publicity, but you get even more that it's not a crime. To party with Mr. Epstein, you know, he really stressed that two or three times. And so he thought that was a good talking point. And so he kind of mind boggling.

But Laura Ingram asked the question in a normal way, this isn't testified before Congress where one gets all maybe sort of formal, not the most Trump administration people do that. But anyway, one maybe that Todd Blanch does, I haven't looked at all the transcripts, you know. This is literally on Laura Ingram's television show. And Laura Ingram says, "Well, what about Epstein?" It's pretty bad things happen at this party, Todd Blanch. It isn't a crime to party with Mr. Epstein.

He adds the honorific mysteries. Like, really, it's even further, it's even further all the people he's sent to, you know, he's defended sending to unjustly to Al Salvador. Mr. Hernandez, Romero or whatever?

Yeah, do you think he's very careful to always put the honorific in front of all men and Mr. Rodriguez.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mr. Alex Predi. I'm somewhat doubtful that he's been so careful at all these cases, but Epstein, Epstein is Mr. Epstein. Anyway, they just need to hang Epstein around his neck, ruthlessly and totally, totally fair to do it. And just make them a public and senators who want to, if to vote, if they're going to vote to confirm Blanch, they're confirming that they approve of the Epstein cover up. They think there's no reason for anything further should have been looked at, any of the survivors should have been taken seriously.

Anyone else should have been investigated or prosecuted, really rapid around their necks?

“I like the honorific point, but I think your most important observation there is about how it's prospective, right?”

Is that that with Mr. Blanch in charge of the Department of Justice, Epstein cover up will continue. Yeah, and I don't imagine that he has a great answer for that. Right? He can, you know, do the same gift galop, you know, nonsense about the past and what happened and why they were delaying and why they were reviewing documents. He's good on all that, but when it comes to the question of, well, are the rest of the documents going to be put forth? Are there going to be additional investigations?

I can't imagine he has a good answer to that. I guess I'd say we're looking into it or whatever, but I think it's pretty clear that if you put in the point person for the Epstein cover up and at the top of the Department of Justice, the Epstein cover up will continue. So I think that is an important part of his confirmation. The other part is the nomination for attorney general is not going to be the thing that makes or breaks the Republican senators in these swing senate states. Obviously, like it's just not an issue that is about broadly of concern to the public, but it's still pretty note where they that you will have, you said Sullivan and Collins.

Three people who are going to claim to be moderate, claim to be middle of the road, you know, claim to be sensible Republicans as they run for reelection in Alaska, Ohio and Maine respectively. You would think that Trump would be at least one of them in order to get Blanche confirmed. And, you know, I haven't heard anything from any of them.

“I think that it puts in a little bit of a tough political position.”

It's hard for you to kind of look at me at the straight face and say Susan Collins is a moderates that needs to be defended in the Senate if she's even open to the idea of confirming the person that. orchestrated the upstream cover up that came up with the cockamy me slush fund that was going to pay $1.8 billion to insurrectionists and Blanche is obviously unqualified for this job with so many levels and. I think that will be one of several things that put somebody a Collins and a tough spot. I think it looked normally as you say at Attorney General any cabinet confirmation really pretty hard to elevate is at a level the what could elevated perhaps accept abstine that is kind of a huge huge issue.

You know, Trump may get a Supreme Court nomination or two.

They'll be pretty well prepared for that in the Democrats historically have not been great in dominating that debate.

“I think they might be better this time, but still.”

And just for political point of view that we want to have a huge debate about obscene all summer. Yeah, and I think that that is something that can trickle down to your point into the main Ohio Alaska Senate race, right, which is Donald Trump's putting up a guy that's kind of continue the upstream cover up and. Susan Collins and Dan Sullivan and John he's said, we'll see, but seem to be going along with that. The other nominations front so Bill Polty, who is put forth to be the acting director of national intelligence absurd nomination, of course.

So interesting things are happening there. We are finally seeing some minor Republican backbone on this one and basically going along with the Democrats they're using this Pfizer reauthorization as kind of like the hostage to try to prevent Bill Polty from becoming DNI. I think that they won't reauthorize Pfizer if if Polty is in there. I think that's interesting, this Trump actually care about that that much unclear, but we have kind of an example of something that I know you've been arguing about for a lot over the last year and a half, which is.

You know, Democrats in the minority, but and also a handful of Republicans like actually using the levers of power they have to try to limit Trump from his worst instincts impulses.

And the Democrats who were ranking on the two committees in the House and the set of the intelligence committees had kind of signed off on a deal on section 702 on the Pfizer, he's dropping and have it affects Americans. Because at the times in the House, right, who's in the Senate? Yeah, Mark Warner in the Senate. So Himes was sort of hesitant to sort of think it's a important program, which for a week knows a lot about it and maybe it's right, probably right still he's hesitant to sort of say no with with Polty.

I'm not willing to necessarily not reauthorize 702.

“I believe he finally unfried a sort of camera out on that and I think it's pretty obvious that you should cannot have this guy, Polty running.”

But he and I, with everything that we've already seen, Tulsi Gabbard do in terms of election interference, foreign and election interference is the excuse for the national intelligence world to get involved in our elections. And Tulsi Gabbard already has tried to use that to get involved in full and Georgia. We now see Trump's equally charging fraud in California. I mean, why won't the next thing be if Polty's in there the two weeks or now?

Oh, got some interesting intelligence findings here about munking around with the vote in California.

It's very dangerous or 26 is, hopefully, we're dangerous or 28, obviously. Warner has been a little war hesitant at the times, but he seems he loves that, you know, he's worked well with Tom Cotton. I just heard him say that on something recently. I know, he's proud of some of the reforms they've added to the seven or two program. I can't judge if they're serious enough.

So I'd say this is still a little bit of reluctance to play real hardball here, but this isn't hardball. I mean, this is honestly, this guy is so mind bogglingly on quave. And it's silly, this doesn't require huge, a big reversal by Republicans and Congress. It doesn't require a policy change that Republicans don't like. It requires Trump literally just not appointing Polty to be the acting director of national intelligence.

A job that he's adding to Polty's other jobs is so ludicrous anyway. No one's even saying that he has to fire Polty from the housing job that we should be fired from that two for what he's done. No one's saying that he has to put in someone we like a lot in national intelligence. Just withdraw. So I think they should really make that case where energetically honestly.

Trump can solve this problem in one minute. By getting rid of Polty, you mean? By just withdrawing his appointment or his planned appointment to be acting director. It doesn't require going to Congress. It doesn't require removing him from something he's been doing.

He hasn't begun yet, right? This is a very easy way to fix. But what would Trump do that, right? I guess to my end, I think Trump obviously seems more interested in having Bill Polty in their D&I creating problems or his enemies. And he cares about Pfizer or the particular is of protecting the country.

Trump doesn't even have to talk about protecting the country. Totally. No, no, totally.

“I just think it's a, the Democrats can make just the point you should say.”

It's a good message. Yeah, it's kind of the Mark Warner thing. Mark Warner seems like a good person, fine person. I'm not thinking it's just a particular, but it is funny from a political standpoint. He's up this year.

It's like it's kind of funny that there's, there's sometimes this scuddle but that you hear about how the Democrats are having their Tea Party moment and the Democrats are following their public and down the extremist path and it's like Mark Warner didn't even have a primary. I don't know. I'm a middle of the road person.

And I might have been interested in a Mark Warner primary. I don't know exactly what it would have looked like. But just a, you know, a little creative destruction getting some more ideas in there. Maybe pressuring a minimum pressuring them to be a little tougher. And less willing to talk about how great his partner is Tom Cotton on intelligence committee.

Actions. I don't really believe the Tom Cotton is that great of a partner.

But here we are Mark Warner.

“Kind of mowsing on towards reelection as if we aren't in a national crisis.”

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But there was one particular clip that got a lot of attention that I want to apply for you. Their legacy demands far more than quiet reflection. It requires our active vigilance. Sadly, today, different European beaches are stormed by different dangerous ideologies.

Each is in Spain and Italy, Greece and Bulgaria, boats and men arrive.

“When will European capitals do something about that invasion?”

A lot of issues there for starters in that metaphor. He's the Nazis. I just think that's a important thing to bring up. Famously on D-Day, it was the Allies, the Americans that were storming the beaches. That were trying to ensure that the European capitals were protected from the internal fascists.

And so in this metaphor, I guess he's talking about how he wants to defend the capitals from the invaders, which, again, would have put him on the side of being the Nazis. So that's maybe a miss on the metaphor. On top of that, his whole thing is just, it's so insane. Where he thinks that the parallel is immigration.

And that immigration is the apt comparison to what happened in World War II, and not Russia's invasion of Ukraine. And Russia has been a singer of Europe because he's got nothing to say about that. He doesn't think that America should be involved in that. It doesn't think that American should be helping to defend European capitals from fascist invasions.

He only thinks he only wants to wave a finger at the Europeans and say, "Let in fear of brown people."

That's basically his lesson of D-Day, and the brave men storming the beaches of Normandy,

is he thinks that the lesson today that we could have learned from that, and as we should be harsh, sure, about the brown immigrants. Yeah, some number of those people storming the beaches on D-Day, were the sons and grandsons and great grandsons. Obviously, we're going to quite a lot of quite a high percentage of its effects.

Yeah, who came here for the same reason. There's a lot of those migrants are coming to Europe, not that doesn't mean that they should let, maybe they've made some mistakes in immigration policy.

“Yeah, it's such an unbelievably inappropriate metaphor comparing them to knots to the Nazis, right?”

You say, "Toss the reversal of who's storming the beaches and who's not." Well, I mean, it's really, really kind of grotesque. Just embarrassing. Mark Hartling, our colleague, when he was still an active duty when he was a general or a general, gave the speech, maybe 11/12 years ago.

I think shortly before he left, retired at this ceremony, it's an annual ceremony, obviously. And he was in touch with them over the weekend. He was so personally just offended and appalled that this could be happening. This is such an important ceremony on occasion, a moving one, usually the veteran, the old, old veterans there, the locals and friends,

but other Europeans as well, take D-Day seriously. They put flowers on the graves, the American soldiers buried in the famous cemetery, in Normandy, but also another cemetery in France and Holland and Germany actually. To use it as an occasion for this is so gross, really. Yeah, it's depressing.

Honestly, yeah, it's gross and depressing. It's just, like, to, like, have this buffoon giving this kind of, like,

and it's, like, a tabloid weekend box news version of what the argument would be. And it's really, it's really shameful. This is what we're at. It is striking how I took the time to ask that about this and the Sunday will work show yesterday. And I don't fully understand, I guess I underestimated a little bit.

There's a lot of cookie things and Trumpism, you know, a lot of things that I don't like and are deplorable and there's a lot of just garden variety races and bigotry and nativism and all this, but to the degree to which the, the great replacement theory and the rebi-gration agenda is really at the heart of it. I think it's sort of underestimated that.

You know, there's somebody else, and say, somebody other things that are very unpleasant to say to the least,

but you could have done much more of an America first foreign policy type.

You could have had some fake, I don't know what the analogy would be.

“You have to be strong and tough and Department of War and we have to weaken us as a work.”

But even right to the rebi-gration agenda. I don't know, I used to little surprise how central let's all become in this second term. I guess it was central the first term too good. I mean, it's tied to the original Trump escalator speech of the invasion of America. You know, in this way, it's just like Father Kauffland stuff all over again.

You know, and it's just a sense that like the real threat is that, you know, these third-worldists or whatever are, you know, invading our, you know, pristine Western civilization. And, you know, none of them actually go to Europe either. Or this is like the other thing, like it's just, it really, I mean, truly,

they take the worst examples. Kathy, you know what I'm about this, and you're in the, and the morning shots is really actually there's this horrible story in London, you know, of a Brit that gets killed by a migrant. And there's a misunderstanding, the police come, and the migrant, the killed him,

and actually called the police. And so the police didn't know who the perpetrator was and who the victim was. And they obviously fucked it up, but they, they've like turned it into this big, you know, sort of example of why of how immigration is killing London.

That's just like, they've never been the London, they don't talk to anyone.

I don't go to, I was an ancestor last summer. I was, well, I'm telling you, Manchester is not, there's not an immigrant invasion happening in Manchester. It felt very British.

“I think though, like their worldview depends on this, right?”

The real threat is from, you know, this, this other. And like if you centralize that, then, you know, you don't have to feel so guilty about, you know, being on the side of Russia. Do you agree, for example, or, you know, some of the other, you know, ways in which they departed from, more, you know, classical Reagan, that's right, conservative ideology.

Right, and then they can be on the side of all the neo-Nazis and Davis parties in Europe, which obviously have gained ground in many places. And so that's also could be, well, let's think of the teenagers. I've struck by this Trump, this was Saturday, right? James X and I, I was looking around on Twitter, whatever.

And those kind of all that, and Trump seemed not to have posted anything yet about D-day, just a little off the American President. So I sort of double checks, especially good to social and all, and he seemed not to. So I just put it that out. And that, you know, Zelenski made a very moving statement about what D-day meant.

Trump had said nothing. But I kind of figured, since, you know, 50,000 other people had made the same point, but somehow I made it, I believe. And social media and elsewhere, I figured, you know, someone in the White House would fake, you know, would write some beingly appropriate or even inappropriate thing for Trump to say about D-day.

You know, so he could sort of avoid that criticism.

And he never did, you know, it's, he posted about a whole bunch of other things.

He had a lot of insane AI photos and went out about that kind of stuff. The arch of the arch, and it's going to be great. But he didn't say anything about D-day, which is somehow very revealing. Well, he thinks there are some losers, you know? Well, he thinks there are some losers.

And the megalomania, the degree to which it's now all and entirely about him. There's no sense that there's, like, American history, other gender, right? Things that happen in the past, generations, we should look back to with gratitude. It is so, it's become so narcissistic and self-sistiquity.

“Can't even bring it was helped to go to the trouble of shouting at one of his A's, right?”

You know, by three sentences about D-day and posted. You mentioned the arch there. You're mad about the arch. It's interesting. I want to sort of stoke your anger. You know, because it's hard to be mad about everything.

Now, and certain things happen that peak my anger and, you know, listeners can tell when that happens. And for some reason, for you, it's the arch. So I want you to kind of get my day and drop about the arch. Because it's one thing, I don't like it. But it's just, I'm not feeling it my core.

So I want you to make the pitch to me about why I should be mad about the arch. I mean, you know, Washington, but so when we live in Northern Virginia, they're like free bridges basically. You drive across for maybe to Washington. And one is the Moril Bridge, which has arctic cemetery on the Virginia side,

and basically like in the Moril and the other on the TC side. And it's a wonderful visit coming either way.

And the arch is supposed to go up smack in the middle of this.

There's a little plot of land. So it's just a circle that it would take up all of totally dominate. The height is unbelievable to it in 50 feet. I mean, people who haven't sort of made it quite internalized how much of a lumo for everything, but especially the lumo of our allington.

So for me, that's really disgusting in a way that I got to say, just, again, this is rational, really, press. The White House stuff is terrible, believe me. I'm not, you know, the ballroom, cage match, but I don't know if it's the White House. You know, it can be fixed by the next occupant.

He's living there. So I guess, you know, he's got, I don't he doesn't title to ruin the place, but it's sort of more understandable that he's doing so. But the arch is not, that's like not on his grounds. You know what I mean?

That's like actually sort of in between sort of the area, between Virginia and DC, right outside Orleans, and I come back to Arlington. So I guess it just moves me. And what is it?

“The, what is it a symbol of its symbol of imperial triumphalism?”

The French put it up, and they didn't do too well on the subsequent wars. They were fighting. Maybe it's a bit of a, you know, irony, a history kind of situation. But anyway, what, what is he done? What, what have we done to be totally honest?

Very recent years to put up the arch. We should put up a tribute to the Ukrainians, and that's some fake triumphalist arch. Can you get my dandre up a little bit? It's coming. That's coming slowly, just really.

I've walked across that bridge a bunch. My senior year college apartment was just kind of right on the other side of the memorial bridge there. So I went down there a lot. I had a smoke double on the bridge one time. That's memorable.

I want to mention since we have Hague Seth really clicked the Mormons. Our mad. Yeah. And I mostly just want to mention this in this period of like,

you know, first they came from the trans.

And I said nothing for likely in the Mormons.

“Hague Seth went out of the Pentagon's list of recognized faith codes from over 231.”

LDS was so listed, but it was moved out of the section for the Christian faith. For example, it says Christian 7th day Adventist, but not Christian church of the latter day Saints. Mike Lee tweeted angrily about this repeatedly over the weekend. At about midnight last night, he tweeted, "I just got out of the phone with Trump.

We discussed the Pentagon's Christian list. I won't speak for him. But I'm thrilled with this is heading where the most fortunate that Trump loves us. And stay tuned." So I just wonder where the Mormon thought was going to happen.

When they put the Christian nationalists in charge of the Department of War. But anyway. And you know, it's not my next problem. But in real Hague Sethian Christian nationalists, supremacist circles, they don't like the Mormon.

I mean, we know this a few, right? Obviously. In the Brown League campaign, it kind of popped up a couple times. They could be surprised that you know. But yeah, they don't think the Mormons are called and not legitimately Christian, so forth. And so this is someone, I guess, who was running this in Hague Seth World,

was more of that was a from that part of the Christian nationalists world. And took out his animosity to the Mormons. Yeah, they are a big group and an important group and very impressive group of Americans. And so it's probably a mistake and they have senators, so they dominate a state Utah to the Mormon senators, not at the only Mormon senators.

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And see if he has one's happening in 60 minutes and you can tell during the interview that this was raw. This is not a calculated career move for something. And there's one section in particular on a play where he is discussing using the honorific. Miss Weiss and the man are in which she intervened with 60 minutes around their story. I'd read it good.

Let's listen to that.

Very Weiss sends an email to my boss, Tony Simon.

Two of the things in the email include, "Can we make the protesters look more violent?" Now I'm paraphrasing.

“I don't have the quote, but that's what was communicated to me.”

And the other thing was Renee Goods' car. You need to describe her as driving toward the officer. We have gone out of our way in our plan from the very beginning to show the protesters for the responsibility that they had. We had already scrubbed the video archives looking for those scenes. But somehow wasn't enough for Miss Weiss.

The video showed that the officer wasn't standing in front of the car and she wasn't driving toward him. But that's what the president said about that. And that's the way she wanted it to scrub. That's pretty striking and concerning just how blunt he is. The Barry Weiss came in and said after eight years of the state killed Renee Goods,

she was demanding that the 60 minute story reflect the point of view of the killer and of the president as much as possible. It's a little thing that she directly interviewed. I mean, presumably when people want to put their thumb on the scale, it's happened to us in life. I mean, they took it through intermediaries, they have little deniability. She didn't care about deniability, maybe she didn't want deniability.

Maybe she was fine, which wanted to tell the White House, hey, I fixed this thing. This thing was much black came out better than you would have thought they wanted to make it all, you know, the ICE agents fought for murdering her day goods. So that part strikes me. I mean, to she even mind this coming out.

I mean, I should find this like it, but they certainly went out of the way, not to pacify anyone at 60 minutes, right? Not publicly. I guess they had a private meeting with Bill Wetter, which was terrible. I mean, subsequently. We've been a girl.

We've been a girl. Yeah, maybe they want to have keep some of it. But, you know, she and her bosses at Paramount, I don't really understand the quote, which structures anymore. Which ever bosses, she has a walk the merger, a full full and either past mergers or future mergers.

They want Trump to know that she and they are on his side. Right? And the old days, they would do these things, you know, under the, you know, cover of darkness if you're going to distort the news a little bit. They want Trump to know, which is another step down the authoritarian path.

And this is why Nick Bilton couldn't answer the question. When Pelle was asking him at that original meeting that leaked about like why they had fired the other the previous executive producers and the heads of the show, right?

“That's why it was so important for Barry Weiss to get somebody that was her choice in charge”

of the show that it couldn't they couldn't, you know, do what they've done traditionally, which is, you know, promote the person internally, that it had been the best story producer. Like, that sounds like she meant it's work, right? They would, you know, promote from with him. They'd find somebody that was that understood program and that had demonstrated, you know,

scale and leadership at shepherding various stories to the TV. Instead, she has to bring in some outside guy. And it's like, why? Well, through this, you know, it's so she doesn't have to send an email. To somebody she doesn't know saying, hey, you know, can you make sure the story reflects the lie that the president told that Renee Good was aiming her car at the officer when all video shows that she was doing the opposite.

Now she can just communicate that to Nick Bilton and, you know, have him try to do it. So we'll see how continues to go. I was, look, everyone needs to do it's right for them. I understand the reason, Leslie Stahl and Bill Whitaker said that they're going to stay. I think that they probably are rightly worried that they quit it's over.

Like, 60 minutes is basically dead and maybe by having them around.

You can kind of shepherd this thing and model through into something different in the future. But I, it seems to be like the writing's on the wall. I guess I just think we just got to build pullty earlier.

“I think it's very wise it's the build pullty of CBS news, right?”

I mean, she's utterly qualified.

I mean, the ultimate respect to the free press. It's only not a TV news room. It's only not a TV news organization.

“She comes takes over and immediately starts budding right into.”

But on Trump's behalf, which is exactly what Bill Pullty's going to do with the national intelligence. I mean, the authoritarian stuff happens within government. And of course it happens within other organizations that they want to corrupt and shape. It takes us to the LA mayor's race with all due respect to the free press. Madaglace is shared this screenshot this morning of their coverage of that race.

I'm just going to read for you a couple of headlines.

Heidi Montag, Spencer Pratt's wife is already LA's first lady.

The revenge of the California Republicans inside Spencer Pratt's viral video machine. Spencer Sakala Basura will LA's Latinos back, Pratt. Pratt, Daddy's revenge. Everything is reality TV and Spencer Pratt knows it goes on. The very, obsequious fan girlish even coverage of Spencer Pratt's main oral campaign for the free press.

And a bunch of others sent her right folks on social media. Bragging about how great of a campaign he ran.

“It turns out as the count continues to trickle in six days later that he will not even make the runoff.”

He's been passed by Nithyuram and Amorva. It's kind of hard to frame her ideologically, because in some ways she's left of bass, but she's also has been trying to move a line of the YMB crowd,

which she would maybe say is more to the middle of bass.

But she now appears certain to enter the runoff of bass. Pratt, it looks like we'll get a smaller percentage of the vote than Trump did. And Los Angeles, which goes to tell you that the whole buzz about this campaign. It was just as bubble. It's just a total online bubble. You know, of a certain type of person that was excited about this.

A lot of people don't live in L.A. that liked his videos. And, you know, those videos can do well on X, but like that is not a substitute for an actual campaign. I don't know if you have any thoughts on Spencer Pratt. No, it's a good side of the right. If the Maga world is being deceived by their own bubble, I mean,

something, you know, some correct indictment of the left that it lives in a bubble and bubble bond. They didn't understand. Middle America got girls either. Maybe they should have some diners and now I hate you know, talked to an actual people who live there. I don't know. Maybe maybe the final maybe the Maga media should go to some diners in L.A.

Or, you know, I don't know, maybe a Takarilla. Yeah, it says he's not diners yet. Takarilla or little, you know, he can cafe or whatever. I want to talk about the conspiracy theories, which now proliferating online. And by proliferating, I mean, obviously the president himself shared conspiracy theories about the salary of mayor's race.

I've seen it from Megan Kelly. I saw it from Will Chamberlain. I've debated on the peers mortgage show. I've said, I just, it's, it's really widespread. The Federal is making McCain.

Megan McCain even shared a potential conspiracy theory about the L.A. mayor's race. And I just, if, if you have friends in your life that are sharing conspiracy theories about the count in the L.A. mayor's race, I just would like to offer you an easy rebuttal to send them. It's important just to start from the baseline here that 15% of people in L.A. are Republicans, 15%. And so Pratt did not even run a campaign to try to appeal to those who are not Republicans.

And he did AI videos that were very withering making fun of Democrats. And those are very popular among Republicans who live in other places online, understandably. But like, that is not how you appeal to a city that is 60% Democrat in the rest independent, 25% independent. And so you had all these people online, all these Republicans were other states. And like, Spencer Pratt is running this amazing campaign. It's like, well, he's running an amazing campaign to appeal to you.

Like, maga Republican that lives in Orlando or like Republican commentator that goes on Fox News and lives in New York. I mean, he's, no wonder you like it. He's appealing to you. But he did not run a good campaign appealing to Democrats live in L.A. That's possible that you could reach them.

“I think that there's some unhappiness with a different kind of governance there.”

But the way to appeal to them is not to run a maga campaign.

And so the reality is that, that Pratt had zero chance to win.

Like, even ahead he made the runoff. There was no path to getting a majority of the vote running a maga campaign in L.A. And so the whole conspiracy theory rests on this notion that that, the care and bass one to prevent Spencer Pratt from getting into the runoff, which is like the opposite of truth.

Now, care and bass is in a real danger. Like the incumbent L.A. Mayor who I assume, I guess nobody ever says who is doing the election-thieving. But I would assume it would be the incumbent mayor who would have some control over the election process and for whom the people that run the elections work for. I, why would she want to rig the system to get a more formidable challenger in the runoff?

And we've now been through this system a million times.

I mean, literally in L.A. we went through this. Whatever that was four years ago where the Crusoe was winning an election day against care and bass and the male came in and care and bass one. Like, if you tell voters that male and ballot is fraudulent and you shouldn't use it, like the maga Republicans do, then it shouldn't be as far as that your voters don't use the male.

And that progressive voters do, and if the male ballots get counted later, I won't be surprised that the more progressive candidate will do well in the later count. This is very easy to understand. It's very easy to explain. There's no conspiracy. And yet, like ostensibly reasonable people who worked in politics for years, whose parents were senators, I've decided that they think that this is a big conspiracy.

And yet, the conspiracy makes no sense.

“And the Democrats, in this case, held, I think the disproportionate of the early vote”

and the later male and the majority of the vote in California is male. And I believe it could be a large majority. That was just where she was accentuated. In fact, the Democrats were holding back on the California Goat's Horeal vote, but it's the same, I think that's the same ballot as the mayor.

Because they wanted to see which of the Democrats were going to emerge.

So they could make sure that you didn't get a Republican Republican primary right to the first one.

There was a question about who was. So it's, yeah, looks like more of a disproportionate. But it's perfectly understandable. Plus the normal, the proportion that you mentioned was he a Republican's voting earlier. Probably thanks to Trump and Democrats voting later.

Yeah, anyway. But there's literally no evidence. No one, whatever they, maybe they should count the ballots faster. Maybe you don't like male and voting. Generally, and you think they should vote more.

I'm fine. That's a policy issue state, different states. So I'm differently. There's literally no charge of fraud here.

“I'm not even like a fake charge of that.”

That we had in some of these other areas where some, I don't know, one box got mixed up for ten minutes and it looked funny when they moved

to somewhere, whatever their charges were at other states in 2020, whatever.

Yeah, the bamboo ballots. Yeah, there's like, there's nothing. They have nothing. It's just like it looks fishy. So it doesn't look fishy, actually.

It looks exactly like what you would have expected when I vote a predicted would have happened beforehand. What, election watches would have predicted beforehand. And there is also no mode. Yeah, but if you're going to say that there's election fraud. What would be the motive of Karen Bass to have to run against a more formidable

Democratic challenger? It doesn't make any sense about it. The whole thing is idiotic. I'm going to say that I'm going to be a little bit more stupid. I'm going to say that I'm going to be a little bit more stupid.

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And so the people of Maine have got to chance to meet them. They know them. They've been plenty of examples of quotes you see of people. And you know, Alex Siteswald, who's a guy he's to know as a national reporter who moved to Maine,

and to added a local paper. And he's like, I hear from people that say, you know, everybody is two degrees of separation from platter. I heard the stories of Adam. I was for him.

And I knew things before the New York Times even wrote anything.

“I think that there is that element there,”

that a lot of this stuff is baked in, and Maine voters like his message. And that's democracy. I can do to share the concern that there's little risk. I don't know that Maine voters may be know everything.

So we remains to be seen. But anyway, the election is tomorrow. I was just turquoise on times of five circles. That last week, the day after his primary one,

We have a poll at this morning that shows the Iowa race tide.

I should say this is an internal DSCC poll. So this is one of those things where DSCC is a democratic senate, campaign committee, having been in this boat as a press secretary. It's like, if you, people oftentimes say that the internal polls

are like rigged to make your candidate look better, that's not what's happening.

“Internally you want to know what the truth is.”

But you just don't tell reporters if it's bad. You do tell them if it's good. So if there's like a margin of error, and you've gotten three poll, you know, you do a poll every week and two weeks or down five.

And then one week it shows you tide. Then you're like, you show the reporters, say, we're tide, right? So I don't know that this means that the race is actually tide, but it does show, actually, it's an underwater.

The Republican just turk up big within dependence. I think it's encouraging. To me, Iowa is the battleground. I said this will address certainly is on last week. I was like, when his dad did the Florida Florida,

I'm Iowa, Iowa, in November, Rob Sand. They just announced this morning. I think, a stutley, he chose his lieutenant governor candidate. He kind of gave moleballer. I know nothing about this person except for that he is a farmer

from Crawford County, Iowa, which is real rural. I've been to Crawford County. That's not fake rural. So I do my next herbs. That's out there in farm land, Northeast Iowa.

And he's got a cowboy hat on his picture. It seems like the aesthetic choice there if we're trying to appeal to is pretty obvious.

“So I don't know if you any thoughts on Turric or what's happening in Iowa?”

No, I think, and I do think the farming economy stuff is very real. And everyone I talk to is from there who has business there, who's visited there, says that. So yeah, it feels like there to think, Iowa, Alaska, Ohio, where really, I don't know, close to tossups at this point,

I think, and those who are those with this. I think Alaska, Ohio, or Tossups. I think Iowa, I would have leaned towards the Republican of the Senate, actually, in the governor's race. I know that there's going to be skepticism.

I've heard some from one listener in particular about the idea that ballots would still happen. And I just think that on the margins, there's enough. Governor's race is in center races, are different. There is a psychological barrier.

If you are yourself, I am a Republican.

I've always been a Republican.

I don't really love Trump that much. I give you a that type of person in Iowa. And you're like, we really need to new state government, like the state government is not been serving us well. I'm like the Republicans nominated a guy from Kansas,

who is a total clown, who is an investor and a conquering company firm tech.

“There are enough, you know, about conquering.”

Just when I've read online a little bit, I've met too much. I haven't heard too much. I don't really want to know. But go ahead.

Well, please shout out to our friends at firm tech. When they were mentioned last week, I received a free sample, which I've not tried yet. So I can't give an endorsement, but I appreciate them. So the Republican nominee for governor and conquering investor

lives in Kansas at just absolute absurd choice to be Governor of the state. No, a clear political operative that he marries a rich person, is just a net bow baby. That is totally out of step.

So back to my point, you can imagine the Republican, and I, well, looking at that race and thing like this, it's crazy. Our obscency seems like a middle-of-the-road guy. And then struggling to also pull D in the Senate race.

You know, I can imagine that. And so I do think that there's a little bit of an additional barrier for Turk. I think it's doable, though, for sure. The Democrats have won the governor's ship in Trump time,

recent times, Trump times, and obviously in Kentucky and Kansas, actually a couple other states that are, I'm now put back now for a second, whereas the Senate races which get our federal races do become referendum on the parties as a whole. You know, Trump's weak enough that that could hurt.

In a couple of cases, I do think now, finally, and again, if the Republican senators have to vote to confirm the organizer of the Epstein cover-up, that wouldn't hurt either to make the federal race less lapsided, but Trump carried 25 states three times.

All of them now have two Republican senators. That is those they have 50 Republican senators for those 25 states. So at the federal level, the ability to withstand the fact that I just don't really want to live with war

and running the Senate, I mean, whatever they're going to sell themselves.

You know, has been more powerful at the state level.

There's more reality, the Republican governor's screwed up. We're going to put it in a Democrat, you know? And so I do, yeah, it's intrinsically it's easier to win the state and local level race to that matter than the federal race. But this might be different with Trump at the,

I don't know the time to think it was Trump. In a second, I was president though, and he had a, if he's a 38, 30 set of Senate, I come back to the single best thing you can do if you don't live in one of these states, and don't control, can't affect the campaign, you know,

tactics or whatever, and persona of these candidates is to knock Trump's numbers down. I mean, it just makes a huge difference that these federal races of Trump's to 36 or 39, or even in these states will be higher

if he's at 44 or 45 instead of 50.

I mean, that's, you know, so. Yeah.

“And I think that three is an hour right now, 44,”

and I think that puts Rob San in a good place, and he's got to get down closer to 40, to be there. But that's very possible. Then, to see my things are getting better, economically, and farm country.

All right. We've gone, like, Bill said, we have a lot of topics today, and he didn't even know we were going to talk about cock rings, and said it was going to be three hours, and it's only been an hour.

But we do want to just briefly discuss the MBA playoffs. And part because it's overlapped with politics because Donald Trump is doing his best to salt the vibes for the New York Bax. So for one 13 straight games, it's just been a truly unbelievable run.

And they go home to Madison Square Garden tonight has not been a final game of Madison Square Garden, and I'm going for memory like 20 some odd years, 30, 30 years. - Yeah, 99, 99, 99, I think. - So that would be what, 27 years.

And Trump is going to go to Game 3, which is annoying, you know, making the finals about yourself for starters. Obama was a legitimate basketball fan, did not go to MBA finals games when he was president,

and part because he's president and part because he creates a huge issue, where, for example, the next of it to cancel, the like street parties watch parties outside the stadium. You can't get in, and this is the hottest ticket

in the history of sports. Like you can't get into the stadium for less than $5,000. Okay, that's like the worst seat in the stadium is $5,000. So if you're a regular New Yorker, you know,

from Queens and wanted to go down and be there and experience that what they had been doing with outside the stadium they had played the game on the big screens outside Madison Square Garden, then you'd have a kind of a watch party vibe.

They've canceled that because that makes it unsafe for Donald Trump, which is, you know, really kind of the turn of the punch ball here on which should be a massive party for New York and for the next.

And to me, I feel like it might be a jinx, might be a hex.

“I think it might be a hex and the 13 game winning streak.”

It's something to keep an eye on. Whether Trump hexes the 13 game winning streak tonight. But it's been an awesome finals. I felt very bad. I don't know, did you watch game too?

No. No. I don't know, I felt very bad for Wendy. It's a tie game and Wendy the star of the spurs. Like had the ball at the chance to win,

and he just threw it off his teammate back. It was really sad. I was watching with my daughter and she was like, I feel sad for Wendy. That's like that's good.

But anyway, Bill, as a New Yorker yourself, do you have any, any takes? Yeah, and then Wendy missed a make up of the shot, right? I think I got to go back at the buzzer.

Yeah, well, it's been an amazing run for the next.

I mean, there's Trump going, he's really just, I don't even recall him being a basketball fan, particularly I've been sort of an expand. I'm not as much at these days as, I mean, I'm not as much a follower of NBA basketball the way you do.

I don't recall Trump showing up in Dick's games, the way a lot of people have for years, and even though they've had some rough stretches here in the last 20, 30 years. It's not a bent stiller, you know, who is there

in the hard times. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Now, and so, yeah, well, it's true. I mean, so it really is just, you're just going to,

yeah, the city really, I was struck. I had to happen to see a couple of New York this weekend. It wasn't huge basketball fans, and one is, but two aren't, and they said it's really amazing. Everyone's talking about it in the city.

Everyone loves it. There are everyone's reading up on all the stories about the individual players, and they had these nicks or likes the last time, the next one is unbelievable, 73, which was teams.

They were team work teams, you know,

and they had some stars, but actually what was most amazing

was they're working together and this team was like that. But everyone's sort of internalized that, there's a lot of good mood and good will, I'd say, about it. I watched some of the clips of the press,

you know, thing they do during the playoffs. Yesterday with all kinds of celebrities, sort of fat, my friend Fetro was there, you know, and joking around with Coach Brown, with the players. I mean, it was, it's really the city.

“I think it's feeling at a very upbeat mood.”

And Trump's going to show up, make everyone wait two hours to get into the garden or get there two hours. So he killed the, you know, the watch parties outside, get booed, I suppose, when he shows off,

when they get about himself, I mean, really is terrible. I hope he, I don't quite know what I'm going with the whole, I hope he actually, I hope he stays political price for it. I don't know how that could happen, really. He's not going to win New York anyway,

but maybe maybe there'll be some indirect annoyance from people. I don't think he'll be well received, do you think? I don't feel like NBA fans, that's true, this. I don't know, I know, I know, we'll be the rich next fans, who can afford the game, but I don't think so.

I don't think so. On the other hand, though, I mean, I had to experience this Trump showed up to the Alessian National Championship in 2019. And like, there was a, and that's very different

because it's South, right? So we're playing Clemson. So the crowd was mostly Trump, yeah, and football, right? So he goes out there and there was mixed, you know, a lot of cheers in my section, some booze,

got a little heated in the section for a minute, not going to blame my husband for that, but it was his fault. And, you know, there's got a little hot.

can we just enjoy this, you know,

and I, and I do feel like that there's that. I don't want the, if you're a liberal next fan, I don't want you to, don't let this ruin it for you, you know? A good middle finger at him and then moving, then focusing on Carl Anthony Towns and his brilliance.

“I think it's probably the right thing to do.”

So, there's a funny viral video going around. So funny, so we'll play the audio.

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We'll be back tomorrow. I guess I just will say to people,

“we're gonna publish the next level early tomorrow.”

So if you don't like tomorrow's guest on this show, you'll have the next level podcast as well, to choose from. And I think I'm gonna enjoy myself. So it'll be a little bit of a swirf from our usual fair. And then we'll be back to business as normal

and Wednesday and the rest of the week. We got a good schedule for you this week. So thanks to Bill Crestel. Everybody else, we'll see you tomorrow. (upbeat music)

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