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With these young children, I can't wait for them.

Really? I can't wait for my daughter-in-law.

β€œThe steuer, how do you feel about the steuer?”

Yes, I've got a lot to do about 1000 euros. Do you have any connections? No, just like the steuer. Wow, and that's easy. Of course, the taste is all automatic.

Suddenly, I feel like I can't wait for them. Hold your money, go to hell with the steuer. Welcome back to Politics International. In case you haven't heard, the New York myth is awe-obstantly in the NBA finals for the first time.

In nearly three decades, sharing the myths from the front row to the spite league. I have just one question for you. Do you have your tickets ready? I know it's going to be a joyous celebration.

Just the one I stare. No ice. No ice.

β€œPolice, firemen, national guard, army, maybe for no ice.”

Oh boy, Monday, and we have sharpened it. Of course we do, and we have everything. It's Monday, it's O'Pelke and for Chris Plan. How are you? Well, happy Monday.

Mike O'Pelke is sitting in front of my friend, Chris Plant and the Chris Plant Show, Chris is on vacation. But I have to tell you, he is not disengaged. Been getting some great communication from our friend over the weekend, and even early mornings,

because those of us who've worked in this radio business know, it's really hard to just suddenly turn it off and go to sleep and wake up at the crack and noon. Doesn't happen, doesn't happen. But I hope you had a great weekend.

It was an amazing weekend here in the Northeast.

I was out in the golf course in the Delaware and watching the temps and the weather is that crazy Saturday storm came burning through and then Sunday spectacular again. Hoping for a solid week so that all of us can get outdoors

and enjoy the world, just bring the show with you. You know, anytime, just take the app and bring it with you and listen, it's all free. So many things to get to today. Of course, there was a lot of,

a lot of herranging by the Democrats towards the president as relates to his appearance. On Meet the Press with Kristen Welker, we will get to that.

β€œI think somebody needs to get a stern talking to”

about where they did this interview. I know the president was speaking to a bunch of farmers, but if you're scheduling the president for a media event, or if you're a major television network and you're scheduling an interview with the most powerful man

on the planet, do you really want to do it in a barn on a day that the weather could be rolling through with some major thunderstorms? It sounded like there were snare drums behind them the entire time.

So that was frustrating. I'm sure it was frustrating for Welker, very frustrating for the president, but we'll get to it. 'Cause the left is now finding a new level

of accusatory statements regarding the president and his treatment of Kristen Welker,

claiming that he's always bullying women

and women of color, especially Kristen Welker, has a white father and a black mother. So she is biracial, I never even looked at her as being a person of color or biracial. But then again, I'm not part of the left's obsessed cult.

So I see things as they are. Not as I'll sharpened and would want us to see them. So we'll get into that. There's a whole bunch there. The president also mucking things up

for sports fans in New York as the New York Nix and the NBA Finals and they are playing the San Antonio Spurs and Game 3 tonight in New York. And president Trump just happens to be really good friends with Jim Dolan, the guy that owns the New York Nix.

And he's been invited to the game. So he's going to the game. So that requires security. And the NYPD and the Secret Service just have the joint press conference in New York City

to kind of outline what the security's gonna be. And whenever the CPAC conference is held here in the DC area, and the president shows up,

there's always major security there

and local law enforcement as well as Secret Service work together

To make sure that everybody that's going inside

is not a nut job and not caring weapons.

Well, in New York City with 20,000 fans going into the garden,

β€œMadison Square Garden, you have to do the same.”

You have to put everybody through screening. But you also have a neighborhood that is absolutely a risk and you have to make sure that is secured. So it's gonna be pretty interesting. Pretty interesting to see how frustrated people are today

in New York City. And in the past couple of weeks during the playoffs, the New York fans have been treated to watch parties outside of the garden, meaning they set up giant projections and people can watch like in Times Square.

And they can't do that because you can't have a bunch of crazy New Yorkers that close to where the president's going to be.

He's not going to be courts.

He's going to be in a suite. The camera will cut to him a couple of times. We'll get the obligatory reports from the left saying that he crowd mostly booed him. And then you'll get the reports from the people

that support the president that say, "Oh, the crowd was cheering the president "and somewhere in the middle is what will happen." I'm just rooting for San Antonio to win 'cause I want more basketball, but that's me.

We will get to that and get to some of the New York City politicians who are also upset that the president is coming and a couple of weeks ago when the governor tried to slam the president saying that he was not a fan. Well, we now have a mountain of video showing president Trump

when he was citizen Trump attending next games, court side having Charles Oakley fallen to his lap, walking up to Marv Albert, the announcer during a broadcast and interrupting him. President Trump has been a fan.

In fact, when he was the host of his TV show, the apprentice, they did a piece inside the garden and President Trump famously hit a free throw from the free throw line. So, well, we're going to have to address that today.

Yes, well, 'cause the left is having trouble. I did not get any reports over the weekend if somebody wants to join us and share a report on the DC Dyke March. I missed it.

It was Friday evening. I was busy sorting my socks and didn't have any notices of any craziness at the DC Dyke March, but if you have an update on it, 'cause you know it's a pride mountain,

there's all kinds of pride things going on that we have to discuss. Triple 8-6309-625-888-6309-625. If you have a pride month update,

β€œthere is one that I think is really absolutely stunning.”

And I've been trying to figure out all weekend how to delicately address this, because it seems like it's a foolish idea. The company, hello, fresh. One of these food delivery companies,

put out an official statement this weekend,

saying, we know eating isn't always the top priority this month.

And next to their corporate logo for hello, fresh, they have the rainbow now on the lemon. That's usually there. We know that eating isn't always the top priority this month. We respect that.

But for those of you who are prepping, we have an extensive lineup of high fiber recipes available. Happy bride. Oh, really, hello, fresh.

Which I've never been a customer of the hello, fresh company, and I won't be rushing to be customer now. But they were apparently advertising the need for people to eat a lot more high fiber food this month,

for whatever activities they're going to be engaged in. Now, I'm pro fiber in your diet.

β€œI think you need to have a great balanced diet.”

You need protein, you need meats and veggies and fruit, and all that good stuff. But this just seems to be gross and stupid. And somebody wrote and said, hey, how about a Pride Month discount code and suggested the discount code bottoms up?

Now, if that suggestion from a social media user would have been the only thing we saw, I would have said, okay, somebody's trying to be clever in their social media account. Well, hello, fresh, actually put that in there.

So that's there. They took the suggestion. I'm really tired of Pride getting a month and D-day

Getting a day, really tired of it.

And I would hope that we finally have some common sense

β€œabout that and be able to address it openly”

because without D-day, the people that celebrate pride the way they do wouldn't be able to. And we know that, really infuriating. And the other thing we were keeping our eye on today because there was a suit filed recently over the week

and the suit filed in effort to stop the UFC fight that is happening or scheduled to happen Sunday. The UFC fight, the freedom fights that are supposed to go on at the White House on President Trump's birthday, flag day, the 14th.

The work has been continuing on the structure that's right there by the White House, if you've driven by the White House, you've seen it the claw as they're calling it. But now there's a last minute lawsuit that is going to undo all the work that has been done,

all the schedule of flights, the people coming here.

And it's really kind of interesting this group,

the public integrity project filed the suit on the seventh. So we're talking really recently. Against the National Park Service, the Department

β€œof the Interior, they argue the event and follow”

the legal permitting requirements on the south lawn or for the Lincoln Memorial. And they say that this unlawfully enriches the president and Dana White, his friend and Paramount CEO David Ellison and they want a preliminary injunction to stop it.

I wonder if this is going to happen. I wonder, I'm betting it's not going to get all the way to the Supreme Court, although that would be kind of an interesting thing to have the Supreme Court in fact ruling on this.

Now the left has been carping about this for a long, long time. And one of the most interesting things is that Joe Rogan, the biggest podcast around the planet, Joe Rogan, who is also in the MMA guy, is not keen on this. And he talked about this last week.

Cut seven points. The White House thing is odd. I don't like it. I don't like the idea of fighting outside at all. There's problems with it.

And then that's two times. June and it's DC. And we looked it up the last time, last year, same day was 100 degrees. Yeah.

What is? Yeah, hot. You add the lights. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the lights.

Yeah, the trucks bugs. I mean, they were talking about maybe using fans. Is that enough? No, it's not enough. The bugs strips everywhere.

What are you going to do? Like how are you going to stop the bugs? Well, if you've ever been to a Disney World, you know, there are no bugs in the Disney World. Early in the morning, they have guys in chemical warfare, suits walking through that

theme park, spraying a god knows what.

But that I've never been bitten by a bug at Disney, they're just an architect.

So likely the White House would do something like that. Rogan also says that you wouldn't have the NBA championship game outside.

β€œI just don't think that you should compete in a world championship fight in a non-controlled”

environment. You think it should be inside an air condition arena. It should be a controlled environment, just like every, like you don't ask someone to do any of that, you wouldn't ask them to play a world championship basketball game outside in the sun.

That'd be crazy. Yeah. Right? You have to play in a f*** air condition arena. That's how it should be.

I think air condition arena is sort of more for the comfort of the fans, but that's me. I, frankly, I'd like to see a basketball final outside, I'd like to see the deal with the weather. Most of tennis plays outside for the big matches, just say in Joe, interesting. One more from Rogan here, talking about the president really, you know, could put a roof

on it? Listen, but it's going to be a pain in the body. A f***ing roof. Yeah. Build a roof.

Like you've got all the money in the world. Right? Yes. You want to do this for a f***ing body. It's for a f***ing seat.

Build a f***ing seat arena. How big is it? Get a f***ing bar into Minimum. Put it in there. Interesting.

They're at Rogan. Rogan wants a bigger venue there. One of my favorite things happened when the ignorant outsharped in was on morning Joe talking about this and he just couldn't get it right. There is a connection of why they're having these fights on the White House lawn, the UFO

and all of you at whatever they call the UFC, because they're trying to go back to that when, you know, they watch people have these fights for the slave masters and they'd be in the table. They're literally going back to that. Literally, those UFO fights, yes, I would pay to watch UFO fights on the White House.

Outside the White House, Americans versus UFOs.

Maybe that's going to happen. I don't know.

β€œIt was just some of the craziness that happened over the weekend.”

We have news on the war with a ran. We have news out of Israel on Israel strikes about a ran so much more in your calls. Triple 8, 6309625, 8886309625, it's Opelka, in for plant on the crisp rancher. It is the crisp rancher, Michael Pelka with you on this Monday, Christmas on vacation. Hopefully we'll get to all the news, all the appropriate, they've given us, as Chris likes

to say, so much. We have a mountain of cliffs to share with you from the weekend, from President Trump on the today show, on the meet-up press, not the today show, and the walk-off that happened. And some of the other madness that came out of the mouths of New York politicians, Democrats, mostly.

Pretty much all, but we will get to that as well as the international news yesterday, the big news, was that the bombing between the Iranians and the Israelis had been escalating, and it looked like it was going to escalate into a very, very serious escalation between those two countries, and President Trump was not going to be happy about it. Trey Yinkst talked with the President, it was carried on Fox News.

I just got off the phone with President Trump, who is following the developing situation across the region. He told me what I would suggest to Iran, you've shot your missiles, that's enough, get back to the table and make a deal. Well, we don't know if they're coming back to the table, what we do know, as of early

this morning, that the Iranians have signaled that they're done firing on Israel, meanwhile

Israel fired on the actual properties in Iran, hitting some critical oil infrastructure

buildings and some other targets, probably missile launchers, and there is a little bit of a nervous hope that a ceasefire between those two countries can happen, although we're hearing from some of the French terror groups that the Iranian support that they're going to shut down the red sea. So that would be a serious hit to some of the economies in the region.

β€œDoes this mean we're not going to move towards peace?”

No, the President talked about it, and we will get to the clips from the meet the press interview with Kristen Welker. The President did talk about where we are in this, and I do believe it's very frustrating for him because you don't honestly know if the people you're hearing from out of Iran actually have any power control or sway because there's no real person who's actually stood up

as the Supreme Leader and been on camera just messages we get, got to be ultimately very

frustrating. There's also some other big news that happened over the weekend. The New York Times podcast set down with Scott Pellie, the recently terminated member of the 60-minute team, and Boyo Boye has this sparked a really interesting discussion. Is there possibly a new network of failed leftist journalists developing?

We might need your help on this. We'll discuss it just around the corner. You're welcome to join us, Triple 8, 630-962 Vogue. It's the Chris Plancheau. It is the Chris point show, happy Monday to you, Michael Pelka, sitting in front of Chris

Plancheau. This week, we have a lot to get to today as well as your participation in the discussion Triple 8, 630-962 Vogue, I've just mentioned that there is a suit filed to try and stop the UFC fight that is scheduled to happen at the White House next Sunday, Flag Day, which is also President Trump's birthday, and I don't know if the suit is going to be successful.

They're trying to get an injunction, an emergency injunction to stop all of this.

Never mind all the money that's been spent, all of that stuff.

β€œI wonder how happy CBS is with this, because I believe they paid a lot of money to carry”

this. We'll get into that, but Rob is calling from Montgomery County in Maryland. Hello, Rob. Welcome to the Chris Plancheau. Man, they have to go out in search and search and see you, and I'm urging it quite well.

Chris hasn't been off the air, I'm here when Chris needs me.

He's been working hard.

That's why he's got this vacation, so I'm out there.

β€œYou can follow me out Twitter and Facebook, and usually if I'm filling in somewhere I post”

it, but I'll be here this week, God willing. You do, you do a beautiful job. We appreciate your men. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

I had a couple things. Jasmine, you're welcome. Thank you. Jasmine, I mentioned a few things to, you know, getting back to the save act, which everybody is kind of forgotten about conveniently or not, so conveniently.

We had 77 million plus people in this concert we did voted for the agenda that makes sense, okay.

And Mr. Thune and many others down there, the problem is, these people get into Congress

and the Senate and they get corrupted over time. When you're there, the longer you're there, the worse they get, and this guy is holding up a very, very important, many important things with the save act. And he needs to be primary, you know, he's awfully speaks with a blade of grass as what this guy does.

Based on what we've heard from our friend Scott Pressler, who's done a lot of work and a lot of venues, a lot of districts to make sure the people's voices are heard and respected. Pressler looks like he's, unless there is some serious change from Thune, Pressler wants to lead a primary challenge. Now, election day for the actual midterms is November 3rd, so that's going to carry

the one, that's 140 a day from right now.

And I don't think Thune is up for reelection until 2028, but Pressler will follow through

on that and get a candidate form. I'm very frustrated by the fact that we can't get even some sort of votes saying, "Hey, yeah, we need IDs to vote.

β€œAll you need to do is point to California and say, what the hell is going on there?"”

And it's been going on for decades. We've got a clip that shows one of the earliest races that Kamala Harris won was decided by a vote count that took 30 days. That's absolutely crazy. So if you can't see other things, the election all the time is, yeah, it's just pathetic,

it's disgusting. So anyway, hopefully we can beat the heat, but you know, the other thing of course is this lawsuit to hold up this thing. I think they should change, I'm afraid somebody might change his name to the Emperor Trump Furious, you know, like he's having the gladiator show up.

Don't get many ideas, don't get them, I like the idea of the roof though, what Rogan was talking about, you know, that would make things a little more pleasant, but anyway, yeah, you've got tons to talk about, and again, thank you so much and appreciate being able to get on and appreciate Jasmine and the staff, you know, they do a wonderful job.

β€œYeah, if I didn't have Michael and Jasmine, I'd be going down for the third time, sink”

into the bottom. Thank you, Rob. Appreciate you. I have a great rest of your day. Trying to cover everything that's going on that lawsuit, the emergency, they didn't, these

people didn't know that the UFC event was going on until this week. It took them that long. They probably could have used Grok or ChatGPT or some other AI program to file a lawsuit on their behalf, but they didn't. Did they?

No. No, they did not. And speaking of people that are to wear what's going on, it just amazes me as we're now about a week since the Scott Pellie termination that Pellie has to accept it yet, I guess he's still going through the denial stage in his grief from the end of his 37-year career at 60 minutes

in CBS. So, Pellie is talking to anybody that will hear him as long as he's not on his little sailing ship. I don't know if you've seen the photos of Scott Pellie behind the wheel of his beautiful sailing craft.

Not jealous, if he's made enough money, he probably has tens of millions of dollars that he was paid by CBS over those 37 years. He's got a nice boat, he's probably hanging in the Hamthons with all the cool people who are now dodging the brain, eating flesh, eating virus that's out there, yes, look it up. He had found time to talk with the New York Times about getting fired from CBS and like

I said, the hand-wringing is really over the top, check this out, cut to please. Before we start, how you got here? Well, if we want to talk about it at an emotional level, the best thing that I can imagine

In terms of describing it is that it's like your spouse was murdered.

There's some moments of the day I feel fine.

β€œThere are some moments of the day that I just frankly fall apart when I least expect it,”

not that there's any particular trigger. So Scott Pelley got fired from a job and he says it's as if his spouse was murdered. That's how he feels. He's comparing losing a job to having the love of your life murdered. I guess I had explained some of the over-the-top rhetoric he used in the meeting when the

new producers were holding the meeting and he came in and accused them of trying to murder 60 minutes.

I guess he's kind of a little dramatic, but even though he's saying that Scott Pelley doesn't

want you to feel bad for him. But I do want to be clear that I do not feel sorry for me. I don't care about me. I'm fine.

β€œI care about these people that I left behind.”

The people who are still trapped there, trapped. There are people trapped at CBS. There are people we need to, we need to make it alert.

Michael, please push the red button, get the alert, let the law enforcement agents in New

York and DC and anywhere CBS news currently has offices with personnel where 60 minutes has people that are there. They're still trapped. We need to get them out and rescue them, like they're trapped in a cave in Argentina. My God, man.

We don't live in a dictatorship where people are locked in to do things. No, those are the people that are making shoes for the NBA, the people in China. The kids that are children in China that are making the iPhones, yeah, people still trapped there. Dear God, be over the top a little bit more.

Pele is still a little emotional about this institution, and this institution that I love so much. You said that I've been there 37 years. I've been married 42 years, so that's the depth of my devotion. Okay, so I guess then now I understand a little bit more his comparison to his spouse being

murdered by losing a job, but seriously, Scott Pele, it's not real. That's not really accurate. Now we're working on something I want your assistance on this, I would love this audience, this great, Chris Plant, audience to help us because this was triggered, this thought, this idea was triggered by a couple other jettison journalists as they're being called,

getting together and talking about the Scott Pele dismissal. And the Jim Acosta, I guess on this show we're supposed to call him Abelio, because that is his actual name, Abelio Acosta and Katie Fang, that's PH Angie from MS 13 now, I guess she got the boot recently to Terry Moran, who you could pronounce that moron, I guess, but in all its Moran, Terry Moran, joyless read and so many more that are now a float in either

the podcast world, they're no longer with any major network, but Katie Fang and Jim Acosta, welcoming Scott Pele, when I look at the company that I am keeping, I got to be honest, I'm proud,

β€œthis is not easy what we do, but I've said, look Scott, come on in the water's warm, right?”

I mean, Terry Moran, joy, read, you me, I mean, you name it, it's important for people to understand that, you know, it is kind of easy sometimes to be complacent and to stay somewhere it, quote unquote, is easier to be, but really, we can't do this right now, it's too important. Absolutely, no, and this independent media universe is expanding and it's getting stronger every day and it's because it folks like you, Katie and all the folks that you mentioned.

Wait a minute, can we, I want to address this, but could you play the very beginning of that again, please? When I look at the company that I am keeping, I got to be honest, I'm proud, this is not easy what we do. Oh, this is not easy what we do, you are paid or were paid, very well, probably in the high six figures, to do a job in an air conditioned building in a studio,

Look at all the people that are out tarring roofs today, the people that are ...

making driveways happen, the people that are turning ranches to repair cars,

the people that are tin knockers, putting the air conditioning into your building that Lawrence O'Donnell would yell at, it's not hard. You were damned lucky to have a gig in mainstream

β€œmedia, but here's the thing, it, it sounds like Katie Fang and Jim Acosta are lighting up the”

bat signal to get all of these fired journalists to join together. We need to talk about this, because there may be an opportunity for us to spark a new network and we're going to need a name for it. We got to think about this because if you have Jim Acosta and Katie Fang and Don Lemon and Scott Pellie, all of these folks, what are we going to call it? Could we call it the Lemon Pellie network? That would be interesting. Don Lemon would want top billing,

but I think Pellie would fight him for that. Maybe it's FNN, the failed news network, or the bitter brunch. The bitter brunch sounds pretty good. I'm looking for names. I have a few more here. The has been hour? Well, it would be an entire channel. Because again, you have Acosta, you have Fang, you have Pellie, you have Lemon, we have, oh we have to include Keith Olderman, the angry man on the planet, and I saw her in the United States yesterday, Rosie O'Donnell returned,

β€œbut I think that was just for a brief appearance on the Tony Awards. She would have a marquee spot”

there as well. But help me staff this and help me come up with the right name and the shows throughout this, the sour grapes broadcasting system presents the canceled culture channel productions. Which works out to CCCP if you know your Russian, because that translates to the old USSR. We'd have the show with the grievance gang. You could have the people whining. The Pellie's Purgatory, where Pellie is his bemoaning the fact that he's a drift in the Long Island sound on

his beautiful multi-million dollar sailing craft, while caching his retirement checks from CBS.

Read and reject it. Maybe that's good. And how about a cost of last coat? I need some. I need some help from you on this. Triple eight, six, three, zero, nine, six, two, five, eight, eight, eight, six, three, zero, nine, six, two. What are we going to call the new fired network of all the angry souls who have been booted from their, their highly paid positions inside the ivory towers of the mainstream media? What shall we call it? There certainly

must be a liberal billionaire out there willing to bankroll this network. So they could all talk to themselves. It's very interesting. I'm willing to take your suggestions. We haven't nailed it yet. We don't have it yet. I do like FNN. The failed news network. And I don't think we're going to get Sharpen because NBC's got too much more lock on him over there at LST 13 now. And he's not going to give up the big money just yet. We'll get to your calls just around the corner. It's Michael

β€œPelka. This is the first plane ship. Stop the hammering out there. Who's got a hammer?”

It is the first plane show on this Monday, Monday, Monday, second Monday, the month of June

here. We have a lot to get to that. I just mentioned this ongoing story of Scott Pellie, 60 minutes, 37 years with 60 minutes gone. And he's talking to anyone who will listen to him and whining about it, comparing his getting fired to having his wife murdered, which is really, really bizarre if you ask me. Because anyone who's worked in broadcasting, even though he's had a gig for 37 years, anyone who's worked in broadcasting has been fired several times. It happens.

He had the good fortune to work somewhere 37 years. I worked for one company for 10 years. And that was an eternity of broadcasting. It just doesn't happen. You live and die every 13 weeks based on ratings. So he's been very lucky to compare to killing anyotic. So he talked about all these other fire journalists and coming up names for the new network. I like FNN failed news network. But Jack and Columbia, Maryland, has a thought, hello, Jack. Welcome to the

Chris Pancho. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Hopefully you can hear me. Yep. I go with

Control of the lead or CAD.

good, they be landing on their feet in a new place. The control of the lead network. This is a very

β€œnerdy, but correct name. That's good. I like the CAD network. Thank you, Jack. I'm rolling over to”

Oshkosh Wisconsin where Donnie is checking us out. Donnie, welcome to the program. You have a thought. Now you've given me a thought. The scrap heap television network and or maybe the compost

network. They're kind of like all the scraps from the network and a bucket being rolled around

β€œto try to turn into something good. Well done, Donnie. Well done. Thank you. That's a good one.”

If you over thought to triple eight six three zero nine six two five eight eight six three zero nine six two five renaming or naming the new failed news anchor network. Bob and chat Nuga

checking in with us Bob. I know it's not on this topic, but I wanted to get you in before we

β€œhit hit the break. Hey, thank you for taking my call. How are you? I'm good, sir. I'm good, sir.”

Welcome. What's up? Trump said on me the press that he promised no new wars and I wonder, are you aware of today in history? What happened in today in history in 1967? You're talking about the Israeli situation? The 34 sailors were killed. 171 wounded on the USS Liberty. Israel has been surveilling that ship for hours. There's a huge American flag flying on the top. They took out that radio tower. They dropped bombs. They dropped Nape bomb. They machined gun.

The lifeboat says the sailors were trying to escape. One of those, one of those lifeboats is proudly displayed at the Klan Destin Naval Museum in high five Israel. Alongside the remains of the MTB 203, that's the torpedo boat that fired the fatal torpedo during the 1967 attack. I just wanted to say, this has to do with Trump's decision because this is our so-called greatest ally. Well, yeah, there's a really fair point. We also have Bob a relationship, a good relationship

with a nation of Japan, and we certainly know that history as well. You're not wrong in bringing that up, but we also know relationships change. Fair points are, but we also know things develop differently over time. It's Michael Pelke in for Chris Plant on the Chris Plant Show.

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