This is the Dunleba Part Show with this two-gots-pad cast.
This happened a Friday, early afternoon before, uh, or after, excuse me, we had all left for the week.
Uh, Tiger Woods got involved in another, uh, car accident, and has a DUI, and I'm having a hard time getting my head around the fact that one of the most, uh, recognizable athletes, uh, in the history of America shows the symptoms of being an addict, shows the symptoms of having to self-medicate on pain stuff, and I was asking you guys, I remember this conversation the other day because I know that most people who have money problems think that, uh, money solves all the problems, and if you
didn't have money problems, you would then be okay. So a lot of times rich people don't get your compassion or your empathy on things. So when I said to you guys, how many in back surgeries has he
now had, uh, Jeremy's it? Is it nine? Uh, when I said to you guys, hey, man, like him still trying to
play golf with all of that torque, and still having all of these surgeries suggests that none of the other surgeries are working. So he's constantly waking up in pain, and if I asked him, hey, how much of your money here could I get rid of? If I promised to get rid of that pain, I'm guessing he would give up a lot of his money not to wake up over in every morning in some kind of pain. It, uh, our pharmaceutical problem in the United States and the world is a giant one.
You mix pain medicine with alcohol. It'll make the pain go away. And I know a lot of people everyone is saying, why don't you just get a driver? A driver doesn't make the pain go away. And yes, of course, he should get a driver, but I am now left with the impression and tell me if it's an unfair one to think that if he's getting caught this many times with reckless car accidents, it's probably not getting caught every single time that he's doing it. He's not so unfortunate
that he can't hide any of these or he can't cover any of these up. So when I present to you guys, hey, is this the behavior of an addict? Does Tiger Woods have a substance problem? Do you guys
“just land on? Yes, of course now at this point he does. I do. Yeah. Did you see where he flipped his car?”
I was a whole dissacred. And what time of day? Yeah, he blew a zero. So like this is,
I've dealt with it in my life and it was always a dicey proposition when that person would get
behind the wheel and they got in a accidents. And they would say that they were in pain, but 10 years after the procedure, you like the drugs too. I don't doubt that he wakes up in pain, but I also think that that could be an excuse for someone that it also really likes the drugs and he needs to get his life in order. Oh, but when people are saying and I get why everyone ends up there, just get a driver. Yes, of course. There's too much damage. I mean, people like their freedom, but yes, of course,
get a driver. But if a person can afford a driver in a way that all of us are like, what do you do when, just get a driver? Do you know how much access that person has to pain medicine? Do you know how much access that person has? You cannot, you think of addicts, rummaging through your parents belongings in order to sell things out of desperation. This person can have access to every
“single thing they want, every time they leave, they're called a sack. I don't, I think that's”
two different conversations, guys, been here for 20 years, get a driver. He very clearly values his privacy so we can go out and do whatever he sees fit. And part of that is what we saw play out possibly. And TMC is reporting that he's not getting a driver. I don't know how they would know that, but it's a report that came out. Kind of the same situation when Patrick beholds senior, right, that every time we see him in the news, it's like, he's got another DUI, another DUI and it's like,
I'm what point do you just like, tell like, hey, you can't leave the house without somebody taking your somewhere and just doesn't happen. I understand how that might be frustrating, too, right? Like, that feeling of a lack of freedom, we look at as a luxury. Like, I wish I had someone who could drive me around all the time, but I could see in the eyes of an addict in particular, oh, you got your trust me? Like, there's a lot of, there's a lot more beneath the substance abuse, right?
We like to just do a one to one, they'll say, oh, it's because he's higher, he's drunk or whatever,
“that's why he acts that way. But, you know, he acts that way. And then these things enter his system”
and then that exacerbates the situation. Him stopping, doing whatever it is, he's doing, he
Blew zeros on the on the breathalyzer.
whatever will not stop the underlying urge to do it. I just don't think that we have a comp on a person who has lived this kind of public life as a thing. It's like learning Michael Jordan now had some sort of substance problem. He has been a pillar of excellence at something for a long time. And I remember how betrayed everyone felt because they believed the Stuart commercials and we're like, how could he be cheating on his wife? I can't believe that this person is not the regal country
club figure and icon and pristine symbol that I've always known. This is a flawless human being.
“How could he be a moral at his core? But what do you do with what it is that you're presently seeing?”
Where you have three incidents now involving a car, one of them that introduced us to the entire secret of his life, which is a golf club is being used to hit the back window of his car in a domestic confrontation. There is also the body cam video in the middle of the night of an officer clearly talking to a slurring and not fully functional tiger woods. This is a DUI charge even though you guys are saying it's blowing a zero zero. How does that work? Exactly.
Like I didn't, I didn't think there was such a thing as a DUI charge that has that kind of breathalyzer reading. So that happened actually to Dylan Brooks a few weeks ago in Phoenix. He was pulled over for quote unquote driving erratically. He did a breathalyzer. He did a, you know, like the field test and all that stuff. And he's still arrested and booked on a DUI because the officer said there's a scent of marijuana and I have suspicion that based on the way
he was driving that he has impaired, they can't arrest you without having a positive kind of, any presence of alcohol in your system. Well, but the alcohol is what I wasn't thinking that this
“is a DUI alcoholism. I think because of the way that he was slurring in the body cam video”
that we saw in the middle of the night, I'm always assuming pain medication and I'm assuming it
because I will say it again. What's the number of surgeries, Jeremy? Is it indeed not seven? It's seven back surgeries at this point and the reason he gets a DUI is because he did do the breath test. He refused to do a urine test when asked and he did tell the officers that he had taken medication for prior injuries. I will ask the group if I make the addiction to pain medication. Do you find more compassion in your heart because of what the excellence cost him when I say seven
surgeries, right? A lot of these are the same surgery. They're going back in to deal with pain because he's got back problems. It's the reason people thought he wasn't going to catch
jacknick losses because back problems end up harming just about everyone in that sport.
You know what else harms other people then? Like killing somebody with your car. I know you're an empath and I don't doubt that he is in pain. He needs to get help. He before he hurt somebody else. Do what you want to do on your own time, hire a driver and deal with your issues privately. But when you're getting behind the wheel of a car, as you, like you're you're in danger. I am not, I am not forgiving the behavior. Okay. I'm
simply looking at it and saying to all of you, do you guys know how rare it is for someone of this iconic status? I mean, Maridana was sort of in the same boat, but Maridana we thought was reckless throughout his entire life. Do you guys realize how rare it is for someone of this status to become this late in life a danger to himself and others? I would say that Tiger Woods has been known to be reckless for several years now. And I don't think it's all that rare.
You cherry picked one from sports and celebrity we see this all the time. He has afforded to him, a life of excess. He has people willing to feed his current addictions the same way that top line rock stars do. It's a very dangerous situation for him. It is an interesting thing. You brought up the idea that you typically think of an addict. We think of someone like, "Hey, I've got to pawn this VCR to get one more hit." But when your financial situation offers you
literally limitless, there isn't enough drugs he can do to run out of money and then have to scoundrel for it. When there is no barrier to access, where's the edge of that cliff? And again,
“that's why I go back to Man. It goes a lot deeper than the guy being addicted to something. It”
has fundamental issues with how he feels about himself beyond the physical. Imagine, again, think about who wrote the right Thompson that wrote the really deep Tiger Woods feature
Where we literally are doing like Navy SEAL training because he's trying to f...
in his dad who passed away who was in the military and all that. And just it makes you think
“if we're doing armchair psychology, you talk about the pain then. Imagine someone who was raised to”
be the greatest ever. And then lost the person who inspired all that. And then also it feels like I'm not the greatest ever. I felt short of that goal. How much does he hate himself beyond the
physical? I felt short by finishing second because I'm the second greatest ever in majors and
and most people would acknowledge if I asked everyone who's not a golf fan. Hey, who's the greatest golf or ever? Most people would just say Tiger Woods, they wouldn't say Jack Nick. You know who wouldn't say Tiger Woods? And Tiger Woods might probably his dad. Like, and that's his whole life was seeking the approval of this of this man. He's also benefiting from an adoring public that is not really casting that much judgment on him. Still trying to protect him. Still trying to protect him.
They're they're reputable journalists that are doing selfie cam vids that are emotionally talking about this, getting him somehow. Everybody is rooting for him. And because his success
in sports has afforded him the certain lives. I'll no one looks at him like a junkie. Despite
really reckless behavior behind a wheel that would be in line with people throughout pop culture and in sport, really, that you would say, man, that person's a junkie. The thing that I would say to you though is different when you say rock stars or celebrity very few have ever had as pristine a reputation as this person did. He's coming from the country club. Like, he's coming. He's I mean, we're a long way removed from pristine pristine was 2008, 2009. It's them. And his kids are adults.
“Not since the Marlon started three and oh for the last time. Remember like Tiger Woods,”
little kids, there are adults. There are adults, man. Like, like, the pristine has long gone. It's out the window. It's not Diego, Marlon. Obviously, who you say was another boat. I was like, man, he's another ocean. That dude was on another plane. But the point I'm making about, yes, it was a long time ago that Tiger Woods was viewed as pristine. Right. But what is rare is all of a sudden in the forties, whoever you thought was an icon of professionalism, oh no,
that person's showing the behavior of an addict. That looks like junky status. Like, that's, it's just not, it's not a usual path. Normally with the rock stars, with the Charlie Sheen's, whichever it is that it succumbs to the to the temptations, those people have bad boy in them before they're 40. I'll give you an example. And maybe this is probably not a great example, but it's a little bit out of my, my comfort zone. But Mickey Mantle was worship.
Mickey Mantle was an alcoholic. But like, combination of like his status and also the way sports was covered at the time. Well, that's a good point because they kept the secrets. They didn't put it out there. The thing that I said about Tiger Woods is that the rules literally changed on him to catch him with his pants down. We did not cover Michael Jordan that way. If we had covered Michael Jordan that way, following him around, we would have found other stuff in his
divorce and otherwise that would have taken some of the mythological status. Yeah, but Tiger Woods is not victim to a new standard. People actually do protect Tiger's privacy, especially in Jupiter. He is protected. He is in this bubble. He is beloved. If Michael Jordan had police reports, the way that Tiger Woods does, you could not avoid that type of coverage. Tiger gets in his own way. And it might end up being a good thing because this is not just you're going to kill somebody.
This is not sustainable. This is a very dangerous situation. I mean, there are probably plenty of people in sports and otherwise that deal with this very same thing and you do not know about it. Hey, Roy buddy. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together, in unison knows to stand up on their feet. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you've been at many big time
“sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first”
sip of qualifier. Oh, delicious. It's a signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Quarero, man. It's at high five, a random stranger effect.
That's right. The game is popping. Your hugging people you never met before. That's a kind of energy
that Quarero brings. It's so smooth. So delicious. That's the Quarero effect. Keep it Quarero.
What do you mean by this story?
That's right. What do you mean by this story?
He's right about that. I mean, he's right about the fact that the only reason we know any of this about Tiger is because it's the police involved. These things become newsworthy
“when the police get involved, that's how they get in front of us. Lord knows how many people have”
kept some of these things out of the people, including the police. Right. It's because the police are involved because it was so egregious. It's like the one in Palo Verde, right? Like in California. Yeah. He flipped his car in a neighborhood. It makes me think how many times has he been pulled over? Pulled off at the charm of regular. Yeah. Tiger Woods being in that driver seat. He's allowed. Hey, man. Let me drive you home. Yeah. Like we'll take care of your car. You can get out of this jam.
Yeah. Man. Like if it's just a, you know, we're never getting the report that Tiger Woods was
doing 45 and a 44. He got pulled over and then he like, he had dilated pupils. We're not getting that. We're getting, oh, shit. He almost died again in a car crash. Like that's when we're getting. It's literally the most egregious. It's surpassing a threshold of we can keep this a secret.
“And that's what makes it different than then perhaps anyone else. I know that there are celebrities”
superstar athletes, singers, movie actors, whatever, all over the country who have probably done things that regular people will be arrested for, you know, in terms of, under the influence, right? But it's just like you can't go 10 meters past the limit and still continue to believe that
I'm going to be protected unless you have some sort of internal, like self-destructive self-sauce
that dodge thing that's happening with you. Well, you're like, man, I just don't care anymore. And that's the part where I get, I get worried. What are you smiling? Well, Roy shook his head and Tony shook his head at the self-sabbing of the other source of exercise. They both noticed this. Justin Timberley has a body cam video of him being arrested in the Hampton's. Do you guys remember his discomfort about telling the officer? Yeah, I've got a, I've got a, I'm on
World Tour. This is going to ruin the tour. This is going to ruin, but he was trying, and the cop was like trying to be subtle with how being subtle. Right, right. Well, yes, that's exactly what was happening. He just said something about the World Tour, but then the officer said, what do you mean? And he, he couldn't, he's like, this is awkward or something. No, he just couldn't explain what a World Tour was. He couldn't, he was trying to figure out the creative way to not say
he's just in timber like subtly, but he was under the influence so much that subtlety escaped him, and he made it worse by trying to do it subtly. I'll tell you what Dan, you want to talk about the charm and the, the kind of the charisma that these guys have in these moments in that same video, when he's looking over the, the report. Race. Why it? That's the 10 out of 10 out of 10. That's the car right there, man. Funny. The charm offensive. You know what, let's forget this whole thing. Exactly. It was
drive you home. It's a hell Mary. It's like, let me, let me see how I got thread this. Oh, my gosh, right, imagine having to wear with all to just pull that one out. I mean, World Tour, not a lot of people can just sort of throw at the officer some form of World Tour, but then he couldn't explain what a World Tour was until he just says, yeah, I'm just in Tim Relick, and that didn't help him at all, because when the officer has, has you in his sights there, I do wonder how many times
Tiger Woods has gotten away with something like this in his on-play because he's not flipping over the car. The, the time of day, right? The time, it was, the time of day. Two PMs. Woof. It's, but when you think about, when you think, let's, let's make this not Tiger Woods. Let's just make it somebody who is an addict. If I give you all the World's means and any time you leave the house and go anywhere, someone's willing to take you for a party. Like any single time
that you go anywhere, the temptation, whatever it is that sobriety requires in terms of maintenance doesn't have quite the temptation involved that Tiger Woods has any time he steps into public, anytime with his means, he can get access to just any single thing that he wants. In some ways,
“it's the most dangerous kind of addict. It's the kind of addict you need to take freedom from because”
he's gonna hurt himself or somebody else. You can't keep flipping cars. You can't keep flipping cars at two o'clock in the afternoon because your, your judgment is impaired. But when I put in
Front of you guys the seven surgeries for the same thing, seven surgeries for...
back problems, you assume he's in a giant amount of pain, correct? You assume that that's the
“starting point on all of this that he's medicating pain that if I give anybody, anybody who's listening”
to this, who's in pain, if I put in bottle form something that's gonna take you out of out of pain, we're all gonna get addicted there. Everyone is. Now, that's a cattle ear statement. There are people that plenty people that go through knee pain, corrective surgeries, what not, and they don't get addicted to it. I look, these things are highly addicted to this. Now with these means, I'm not comfortable speaking like with that kind of base of knowledge. I just
know like, I know what it looked like in my own experience with family members that it ended up killing them. I do think that there are some aspects of this that are, you know, that there is some selfish behavior here, some reckless behavior here. I mean, Kurt Angle somehow found a way to get off of his astronomical intake. You know, there are people that power through that have real addictions and somehow find a way. And I, while addiction is a thing that needs to be dealt with
with a certain type of tact, I also am not on team. Let's absolve this kind of behaviors, especially when you're getting behind the wheel of the car and can take other people out. Then I keep going back to this. Like, yeah, he's in a lot of pain. Yeah, he has access to drugs. Man, there's something else happening there that's not about surgeries or back pain. But you guys misunderstand. I'm not saying that addiction can't be managed, though, it is hard,
and I would say pain medicine addiction probably has to be among the hardest. If we're not talking about heroin or crystal meth, what I'm saying is anyone who is in pain and wants to relieve the pain and finds that relief and a bottle, that person can get addicted and then can
figure out how to manage it. But Kurt Angle first got addicted that he figured out how to manage it.
It starts with, wait a minute, there's something that makes the pain go away. Yeah, it's going to destroy my organs. Yeah, it's going to shorten my life. But today, I get to wake up and my back doesn't hurt. And I'm not thinking about my back hurting. That would be a temptation for anyone who's in a substantive amount of pain that requires seven surgeries. And I'm not even excusing the behavior. You're not wrong in any way. Of course, he's fortunate that he hasn't harmed
someone yet. No, I mean, import his body's in pain because he got into a car accident before too. It's not just the back. His leg got completely checked up. I definitely have sympathy for what he's going through, no doubt. But there is a level of behavior here that definitely deserves being criticized and is dangerous. And he is in the position where people are rooting for him. He hasn't yet hurt anybody. I don't think God doesn't get to that point. Also, how does he still have
a license? Let's just let's start there, right? You can't drive anymore. Not you shouldn't drive
“anymore. You can no longer drive. I think at this point, we can say regardless of whatever's”
happening with him and we hope he's all right on that. You know, you've forfeited the right to be able to drive a car at this point. But who's going to force that? Who's going to tell Tiger Woods, hey, you can't do that. The government, the DMB, he's got back to the high places. I'm just saying at some point. No, but you know when that happens, I don't think Dante stole worth can drive anymore because he killed somebody. I think he is still being driven around. However, many years
later on this strip of land over here that I know that for many years, maybe he can drive now. But for many years, he couldn't drive. How many car incidents is this four tiger? Is it three? Because the golf club and the back of the window of the car, that was not a DUI incident. I think he'd bring into a tree in all of that, which is why the police kind of evolved. The police weren't responding to the club being hit on the back window. He flipped this car.
I don't think recently, I don't think that had anything to do with it when he was leaving the
“shoot in California. He just got into one. Yeah, I think he just got into bad accident. He did”
have the previous DUI in which, like, I think NBC during their golf coverage had to apologize because they showed the wrong incident when they were trying to talk about this one. You're talking about that. They had so many titles with DUI incidents to pick from. They're like, "Oh, my bad. Not that one." I don't think it's four DUI incidents, but I do think it's four
car incidents. This is the fourth car incident. So the first one, when it was everything with his wife,
he hit a fire hydrant and then a tree in Orlando at 230 in the morning. 2017, he was found to sleep inside of vehicle. And then in 2021, it was life threatening car crash in Los Angeles.
You're of the thought that that will get your car just taken away.
taken away because I do believe you have to harm somebody. It's not Patrick Mahomes' father. He got several DUIs over a course of time, but he also didn't harm anybody other than himself in the doing of it. Yeah, I live in Arizona and it's like a zero tolerance state. They can literally book you for a DUI for just, you could blow a 0.01, which I believe is like mouthwash, and they can send you to 10 city. Yeah, like book you and like put you in a very uncomfortable
that we don't have 10 city anymore, but it used to be this literally tense. It was outdoors in the sunlight in the middle of summer. Yeah, Parkley got center. Yeah, so make you wear pink on
underwear. Yeah, I never understood that part. Like I think I'd be sure that's race to share
“if Joe are probably out of jail. That's what that was. What do you mean? You never understood”
that part. Like I don't understand like what like, oh, this is a punishment. Like you got to stay outdoors in the summer. Oh my god, that's awful. Yeah, and you got to spend 30, 30 days with comics and people. Oh my god, it's awful. And your underwear is pink. Like, okay, I don't even understand it. Like what is that? Can we go back to the sun? Oh, how did they, how did they put that in place? Oh, I'm picking it up right now. Uh, that was racist sheriff Joe R. Pio did whatever it is
that he wanted back. Back when America was great again, racist sheriff Joe R. Pio, not creative.
Sheriff Joe R. That's enough. They never call it creative. No, no, no, no. It's like, I will make
a web big underwear. Oh, I thought about kiss asses in a boardroom. Those guys are, yeah, you tell them, don't like, come on, man. That's the best thing you come up with for punishments.
“Don't live a TARD. Don't always tap the sloppies. Two guts. Is this chum bucket?”
VCC don't live a TARD show with his two guts. I wanted to get to some NBA stuff with a mean being here and not necessarily the raptors going on a 31 nothing run against Orlando. Uh, that, that is, we've been talking a lot about the heat around here, but Toronto on Orlando are really in no man's land. Even if you look at the way Indiana and Dallas have made it to the finals the last couple of years as as middling seeds. Toronto has no
earthly way of getting past the New York next. Like, there is no, there's no circumstance in which they will play the New York nicks and then defeat the New York nicks. If they avoid, what do you mean? What? They match up very poorly with New York. It's just, there's something about, you have quickly and you have RJ Barrett. Like, if I'm going to write nicks horror story fanfiction, it's RJ Barrett and, uh, an Emmanuel quickly destroy them in the playoffs. And then it's like,
oh, I got it's all happening again. Jeremy, can you look up for me? Place the number of times consecutively that the nicks have beaten the raptors both in both countries. Both cut. No, because I can't remember the last time, I don't believe this group of raptors has beaten this group of nicks. I don't believe, not one time. Every time I watch those two teams play, the nicks are winning by double digits and none of the games are even closed. Dan, I could tell
that you don't think that the show is big in Toronto and can do because after an incredible historic feet that they had accomplished last night, you're going after them for not beating the New York they said 31 straight things that your lando magic couldn't score a point, not a free throw, not a putback, not nothing. You know, hard that is 31. It's hard enough for touchdowns at a field goal for an NBA team to not be able to score in that span. But Orlando's actually a good team. It's not even like,
oh, the wizards. And this happened with wizards or the Kings, he'd be like, oh my god, you guys are terrible. Orlando's actually a decent team. They could score 31 on answered. The nicks have beaten the raptors in 12 straight matchups, dating back to 2023. But they're not going to square off at the playoffs unless they get to the conference finals, because Toronto's presently the four five see and they'd go against Cleveland, but I guess if the Hawks catch them.
“That's how it's happening. Oh, I'm not sure. I'm fire. We're tuning up for that three six.”
But again, 31 and all run. I'd be out of time out. I get ejected. Let's do something. Run the court. I'm out. You guys got it. You figured it out. That I don't know if that is the game that made it 81 games this season decided by 30 or
more points. But it's never, this is the most it's ever been. This is, this is the most, but numerically,
empirically, the most lopsided this league has ever been. There have now been according to Tim Reynolds 81 games this season decided by 30 or more points. It's a new single season record
Topping the mark of 80 last season.
be more blowout NBA basketball games than there have ever been. Is this a small sample to look at
the two seasons and tell you 30 plus point victories are more common today and in the last two seasons than they've ever been. New normal, correct? I mean, yeah, because again, it goes back to what we talked about with Duke and Yukon, which is when the three point shot becomes more more prevalent and I'm telling you that your defense really does not have that much of an impact on whether they make or miss your defense has an impact on whether they take or not. Then you have
this kind of variability because you can go through a cold stretch and you can go through an incredibly hot stretch. Having said that, this one right here, you know, this is for the books.
“A 31 nothing wrong. I mean, look, I don't know how I don't know how that's possible. I honestly”
don't know how that's possible. How do you get to that point of I'm going to score and that
be score on for that long of a amount of time for that amount of points? Like Tony said, yeah, you get an offensive, not even a tipback like one of these, not even hey, they got found kind of 40 feet from the basket now they're in the penalty. Your level of basketball was so in it that you couldn't even manufacture a single free throw. That's that's next level. What did you think of the NBA's anti-tanking proposals? They obviously spent a lot of time thinking about this.
They're trying to fix a problem that doesn't appear to have fixing. What are your thoughts on what it is that they submitted before the public? Then this is what happens when you don't
“have a culture of vigorous debate internally because you come up with ideas that are so preposterous.”
Let me go glass half full. The simplest idea that came up with is actually the best one, which is every team that ten bad teams, plus all the playing teams, they all get into the lottery. The ten bad teams, they divide 80% of the odds among them to get a top five pit. The eight playing teams, they divide the remaining 20% and so it doesn't matter whether I win my play in game or not, doesn't matter whether I make play off or not. If I was one of these teams, I have a chance and my
chance is just as good as the other play in teams. I like that. It's nice and simple. There's no risk of anyone saying I'd rather be a seven than a six in order to have ping pong balls. It makes very clear the lines of delineation. Teams would rather be in the playing and in the playoff that not, but you don't miss out completely. When you start to talk about and we should include the teams that lost in the first round of playoffs. Why? Or we should calculate how many wins you had
the last two years and if you had 14 wins we'll say you had 20. I'm like it cannot be something where I have to pull out a manual to explain to people why their team does or does not have a chance to get into the lottery and then the final one and this one. I was like yo, I would have laughed in the room with someone brought this up. We're going to have a lottery and then we have another lottery. If you miss out lottery and then another lottery at the 5.5, these are insane. Any
time these new stories come out then I always think the same thing. That's not only the stuff that
made it through emails and conference calls and like spitballing in your office to the Board of Governors meeting. That's also the idea that they felt comfortable enough. Hey Shams. These are three ideas. For that to be leaked. Are they trying to prove us? We're trying our best. No, you're not. Not if that's one of the ideas and someone said you know what? Put it on the list. No such thing as a bad idea. But is that something to kind of get the the temperature of what fans
are thinking fans are seeing and be like, ah, you know what? Like that's something we were thinking about we're not going to do it because there's been such bad reaction to it. I tell you what the
“temperature is. Sub zero. You think they're all bad. There's nothing. I think I think the one where”
you include play in teams into the lottery. I'll be with smaller odds than the non-play in teams. I think that's nice. It's simple. It makes sense. Right. And it's easy to explain. I think all the other ones, not only are they over-overly complex, but I don't think they address the actual problem. And it's like going to the doctor and saying I have a stomach ache and it says, here, rub this on your forehead, this vix on your forehead. No, but I have a stomach ache. I don't, you know what?
Let me prescribe some mungioro for you. What I like. Well, as well as with people who works,
You know, if you're to your sick, you put it on your feet and then you put so...
Takes it away. My favorite tanking rule. I saw proposed on on emotional hoops and it was by a fan
“that said what you should do is based off the standings. You then draft opposing franchises”
that you think are going to be the worst the next season. And that links you to your pick for the next draft. So if you were the Pacers, for example, you have the worst record this season, right?
You then enter the draft with the number one overall pick. And what your pick is is, I think
the jazz are going to be the worst team in basketball next year. And so your pick is attached to another franchise. So it totally disincentivizes tanking because your picks are not linked to your own franchise in their record. And it creates rivalries out of nowhere for a year.
“I mean, because you think someone's going to be dead. What do you think? I feel like, what do you think about it?”
Well, I'm looking at just his hand, right? He's stoic and he's staring at your face and I can't
tell from the look of his face how he feels about what you were suggesting. But I watched him curl the microphone cord there, the headset cord. And with the way he was using his hand, they're suggested to me that he hated your idea, that he hated that you were bringing that out in public. The ball pit in the warning track of a baseball part idea in comparison feels like very sound. You got it wrong. That's crazy. I have a trampoline warning track. The ball pit is on the other side of the
thank you. So you fall on safety. Yeah, had to be said. The Jeremy, the thing is, so you're the team. You go up there and you're like, we're going to draft AJ DeBanza, but then also the jazz. Well,
“this year, you have to start it for one year with something like that. But, but realistically, then moving”
forward, you just said your idea was so bad. And then he helped me. Not my idea, I specifically told you where, but he held up a great idea. Ball pit is a great idea. The trampoline ball pit. I mean, if it would make more sense if you had a bad idea, weren't there also lagoons in the outfield? Yeah, every time like the warning track, every team could put a pond wherever they want in the outfield. Yeah, if you want that hazard, they're going to stop for a sand. It only change once a series
though you can't ever game. I'm glad you're explaining that.