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This is the Dan Lebapar Show with the Stugat Spatcast.

Sazlo's having a rough day here. He just injured himself just bringing his chair

and he hurt his finger. I saw him shaking it here. What? Yeah, you seem like you're a little bit physically hurt. I mean, I'll have to be here shortly. We'll get into Zazlo's dream with a mean. I mean, it's also a weird dreamer. Evidently, Zazlo's had a weird dream. He hasn't told me what it is yet.

He just told me he's had another one of these weird dreams. So we'll get into that with a mean.

In a second, we're also going to get into this Yokech dorked back and forth with the mean.

But I wanted to ask you guys something about the back and forth between Kevin Durant and Tyler Hero. So Tyler Hero calls Kevin Durant a whiny B word. Kevin Durant calls Tyler Hero the P word and after they have done that, the two of them say we respect each other. And I just don't think that in any other context that I can think of, that exchange what happened between two people who would then immediately afterwards say we respect each other because that

sounds disrespectful. What are the other workplaces where two people would talk to each other like that? Because Kevin Durant said, let's move past that. The quote is, I've got respect for Tyler. He has respect for me. And those words, they're just words at the end of the day. We didn't do nothing too much. It wasn't too physical on our end. But I appreciate his competitiveness and vice versa. We can move on from that one, not too serious. Tyler Hero says, he was saying I

couldn't guard and I said something to him. But we're competing at the end of the day. You want to be able to play against the best players in the world and be able to compete like that.

That's what I live for. I love to compete. Are there other places? And I'm not talking about

like human resources or anything. But are there other places where I can have that exchange of name calling with somebody and say afterward, credibly, I respect that person. That's someone I still respect. I'm sorry. I feel like it happens in an afternoon. You're having a terrible day. You need to go out again because you just, you did it again. You can, you can come back. I'm telling you, it's the way a show. But due to his clearly going to talk there,

it was clearly his floor and you just got away and just feel your finger in the other room. Due to you were saying the USC. Yeah, competing, fighting. Also, rap battles. Also, well, yeah, I guess rap battles, although I don't think that Kendrick and Drake respect each other. Like, I don't think that what they have done, they probably have gone to a place where the disrespect is real. You can, the thing that I'm noticing, though, when it comes to these two

particular things, when it comes to these two human beings that I believe them, when they say,

that's nothing. It's just talk. It's not a place that I ever visit. I never feel so competitive

about anything that something like that would come out of my mouth towards somebody that I actually liked and respected. Like, I really don't, you, you, can you guys say it? Can you get rid of it? Well, I just, I know. I just, they just put in the preview of him hurting his finger. So I just, I was on air too. I just saw him hem injuring himself. It's just not something. I, I remember I was, I was playing ping pong one time with David Samson. He's very competitive

and that level of competition was something that I, I, long ago, sort of, lost interest in the ego stuff that comes with being really competitive. It's not something in adulthood that I held on to. I didn't even feel like it was good for me to be noticing what other people are doing and then start competing with them. So this, this doesn't exist in me anymore where I would be across from somebody, I imagine how Tyler Hero actually thinks of Kevin Durant

and that something would stir in him while he's playing against Kevin Durant who must be a genuine hero to Tyler Hero to hear that come out of Kevin Durant's mouth at him. It's just because it's part of what the culture they exist in. It's the most normal thing in the world to respect someone and disrespect them. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this is a very white take. Yeah, it's red. It's blue. That just stumbled me right there. So little is just a,

she does it every day on the alley you go check it out on deal and so it's right now. But I think

that sticks and stones that know like this to where we live in, people who get so upset on some words, you might need to go into some training because sticks and stones was taught to me

Like second grade, but it also refers reminds me of back when you remember th...

you're doing Butler, we were going to get through the prints. Dad, I didn't want to say it then, but him calling Jimmy Butler, and that's it. That's regular in New Orleans. It's not necessarily the dis. So it's just where you are in the world and what you're used to is what you're going to deal with. Chris Cody is feverishly looking for both that and the dream imaging that he has now that a mean is there. We've got some weird dream imaging, but go ahead and play, you're, you're saying

we overreacted and I overreacted to Jimmy Butler taking a bunch of this in the face and not doing anything with it other than walking away. Why do they not have a 30-per.

A mean is here. We're going to do weekend observations with a mean in a second, but go ahead and play

your dream imaging there, Chris, so that Zazlo can tell us about the weird dream that he had recently.

Is that it? Oh man, so I remember my dreams. All right, like Trissa, you remember your dreams?

I remember your dream. Jeremy, you remember your dreams? I remember your dream about being a cock. Yep, that was the one I was talking about. I remember your dreams? Not all of them know. I remember my daily know about them dreams? Wait, was that stumble? What was it again? So I remember my dreams. And over the weekend, I had a dream. I was on first take on ESPN. I was making my debut on first take. I'm dressed up. I'm looking all good. Your blow is like

good. I've been in New York. Oh my god, that's right. Wait, wait, how are you dressed up? Are you wearing a Roman range? T-shirt? No, I'm wearing a suit. You're wearing a legitimate suit? Yeah, that's right. I don't know how. When was the last time you wore a suit? Oh man. Funeral wedding? Yeah, wedding. Like a year ago wedding.

Yeah. Whatever. I look good like this. I know how I look good. So I'm on first take.

I'm making my debut on first take and I'm on this set. And the other panelist, all right, sitting right next to me is Kendrick Perkins. And sitting right next to Kendrick Perkins is Steven A Smith. And sitting right across from me is George Sedano. All right. Now, I don't know the other faces who are there. Sometimes you don't see the faces of everybody in your dream. You know what I'm saying? But those three I recognize, those are there. Kendrick Perkins and Steven A Smith

are having a back and forth. They're talking about the Miami Heat. All right. And Perk, he says something incorrect. So I interrupted. All right, I interrupted and I made the correction. I made a good point, all right. But I was like, you know, I'm sorry, you're an option. And I made the point. It doesn't matter. You understand what I'm saying? And I made the point. And Perk was not happy that I interrupted him. He was not only was he not happy that I interrupted him, but I also found

out that I wasn't even in the segment. I was off camera. So I was correcting Perk while like I wasn't like I was off to the side. I wasn't even on the camera. You're wearing a suit, but you're off camera. You're on the set, but you're not on the show. Are you making your debut or you're making debut from off camera? Yeah, like I was going to be in next segment. Okay, like I was waiting off to the side. You couldn't help yourself. And I interrupted Perk. I'm not even on camera.

He did not accept my apology afterward. And and and the people weren't not happy with me. It ended very poorly. What a dream. Chris, I got a sludger for this music. It makes me it transports me to both a spa and a lovely beachside shack somewhere in the Caribbean. I mean, you are our dream expert around here. You had your head in your hands while

he delivered that particular dream. What is your dream analysis there?

My analysis is that when I tell my dreams, Mike Ryan got a pitch fork and ran me out to studio. But now we have imaging and music when Zaz does it. I see how it is. No, that imaging was produced so that when you appeared to talk about dreams, you'd be our dream expert. That imaging was made for you. It's good imaging. And the segue was Zaz's low had had a dream. And so we wanted to

share it with our dream expert. It's amazing imaging. I got to give Chris 10 out of 10 for the imaging.

I just want to point out that when I talk about dreams, again, pitch forks and torches came out. I was at to believe my dreams and the topic of dreams were off limits for the day and lipotartro, but it's nice to see that it's been returned into the graces. Comparison. There's the thief of joy. For me, it was just refreshing to hear him get through it quickly.

Was that quick? On the scale? Yeah. Mine was more important. More interesting.

I had mobs. There's chasing me on high speed trains. It's guys, stop up first day. Got a dream, is that? Well, I'm controlled. So that's what he was asked. Look at Tarlic.

What do you think it means?

I love how you bogged this sound when the main complaint is that you're segment usually bogged things down.

Wait, Bob. This is what to be on first date.

That is good analysis. Good analysis by a mean. That is why that's why he's our dream expert.

He's extraordinary at looking into and probing the subconscious and the sleep felt bad. Like I interrupted him and I wasn't even on camera. It's very important. You're doing the slurring again. No, he's slurring. So how did they get angry? What? Like were you afraid? Did you wake up the way that people wake up?

Well, falling off of a building when Kendrick stared at him. Live on TV like Aaron Glenn. Do you wait in the game or did commercial? Well, I didn't get my segments for one. All right. I like that was it for me on the day. And I sit down with like the executives. Oh, wow. So what is a literal dream being on first take turned into an eye man? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like it.

I had a similar dream like this that I have only told to my close family and friends

that I was in a warehouse for a live taping of the Bill Simmons show with Zack Low and every time Zack would toss to me.

My mic was off and Bill would talk over me. I feel like that was closer to possible reality. But that every single time was like that. I couldn't understand why Park wouldn't accept my apology, but it makes sense because I wasn't even on camera. A meme was clearly going to talk there and you interrupted him again. I mean my not only two minutes to lay a show. Zack is the work show you had since you been here.

I mean you were about to say what were you about to say there before Zack's clearly bothered you by interrupting you. How was I supposed to know? That's not a dream Trista. That's called the Dan Levitar Show. It was fun here in the moment. Damn. Have you had any good dreams recently? I mean because this is your

dream segment. That imaging was for you to come on here with whatever your weird dreams are that you write down.

I will not share my dreams with you people anymore. You people.

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idea that Michael Jordan has saved NASCAR. Yes, all it took was a lawsuit. And the three peat. Grayman Green wondered if Nico was right. Grayman I can help you out here. He wasn't. What's he talking about Dan? Like it's not that he trained just to be clear because Grayman likes to create straw men. Oh you guys said he was crazy and now where's the apologies. It's not that Lucas perfect. It's that, it's not even that you shouldn't trade Luka. It's that

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To recap, Zaz, Mike, and Chris, but the wrestler in the Uber video, was for real. Move over Dan. Your is the shark swimming down the freeway gullibility moment has been supplanted. Atop the what the hell are you guys talking about? Power rankings. Wow. Speaking of hell, our trials. Those, I think we can objectations. Don Lebotard. Chris Cody does an impression just be careful. Dangerous game is a dangerous game.

I don't want to play this game. No, you would say man, I could do such a great game. No, I don't want to play this game. He's like man, I just want to work like him. This is who we're gonna trust me. I mean, let's let a mean do it, I think.

Still got. I think you could do a Chris because you did a great Charles Barclay.

You're one for one there. Did no one just hear the segment we just did with the mean. We cannot be taking judgment is not the best. That's so from the local drunk on whether or not

you should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words like you don't

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I have a number of questions for you. I mean, where do you stand right now? Okay, I saw everybody when you said Tyler Hero is calling Kevin Drand burner boy. Everyone seems to believe that the Kevin Drand burner story is real. I stop paying attention to it. The moment you said it wasn't real. And where are you on this now? Has any of your opinion changed on this? We texted about this last week while you were out and I told you, Dan,

the next time someone presents evidence connecting him to these accounts will be the first time.

It's literally just because you had a burner before and that's it. That's the evidence. And so without rising below the lowest threshold possible, a proof. I have no reason to believe. It's true. This is simply a case of I want to believe much like Zaz, Mike and Chris wanted to believe an Uber driver freaked out and told the guy to get out because he was on speaker phone. You want to believe it's true. It's not there's no evidence. There's no

proof. But everyone's running with it though. I mean, like everyone's talking about this, as if it's absolutely true. They're not. It's not merely a straw man. It's being made true by the people who are talking about it. I go back to, okay, what was the evidence they provided other than he had a burner a few years ago? There is none. That's my point. So just because they're all running with it. But none of them? Not one person said, you know why? Because I did the IP address

look up for what nobody. You're talking about a hundred percent of the people running with this story as true have zero evidence supporting it. That should throw your red flags up immediately. When there's nobody, not just one kind of one person, one quiet guy, hey, I did the tracking and be logged in at this, nobody, not one of them. They just ran with it. That should tell you everything you need to know. I'm not running. Two amines point like it was something that went viral for about

24 to 48 hours.

from a group text of anything pointing toward any of those accounts. And he's even laughing now. There was someone at the game on Saturday that yelled while he was at the free throw line. That's get higher 77. And he like stepped away from the line and laughed because at this point, like it's all just a punchline. It's not really anything other than just a fodder for the internet that isn't

even continuing beyond what happened in those first 48 hours. I get into this a lot like when

comedians say something and people in terms of the headlines, so and so believes that these people shouldn't have rights or whatever. And I said, no, what so and so did was make this thing called a joke, which doesn't necessarily represent their true feelings about anything. And the problem with society is that we have lost the ability to accept that a joke is just a joke and not a bigger narrative about something greater than all of us, whoever said, hey, this is made those big posts and

said, this is Kevin Drenner, maybe they're real posts and said, this is Kevin Drenner. It's funny, it's funny as a joke, but we don't have to actually take the extra step and say, no, we have to take this seriously and believe it's actually him. Juju put it on the pole is the problem with society that we can't take a joke as a joke. How do you feel about this Paul George impersonation of Kauai Leonard? I'm not running. Sui Award winner, not nominee winner. I'm not running. If you didn't,

if you didn't tell me this is Paul George, I would have thought that was quite Leonard. I'm not running.

That's how good it was. He does a good Charles Barkley, too. Do you guys know that?

Paul George does a really good Charles Barkley. Did not know that. I've got a couple of basketball

questions to throw your way. The first, this interaction you mentioned JJ Reddick earlier and

Lakers losses being loud. What did you make of this interaction between Luka and Reddick? Your thoughts here are what? I mean, that's the NBA. Like this happens all the time. Sometimes guys get pulled and they didn't want to get pulled and the coach is talking to him and JJ's a fiery guy. Luka's a fiery guy and they're going to get into it and it's nothing. This is every day. It happens. It's happened with Pat Riley and players. It's happened with Steve current players. And I think

the best part of this video is Jared Vanderbilt playing defense right there, playing interference. But doing it like as if you just like, I got a damn instead of a dancer right here. That is, they say he's a good defensive player. They told me he was going to make them good at defense.

That's the best defense the Lakers have played this year. He might have saved Luka Dodgers for

there for sure with his defense because what if Luka storms back, what happens if things escalate again, fiery people getting mad about stuff? By the way, they were blowing the warriors out. That's the weird thing about this. This isn't like a nipping tug game that the desire that kind of level of intensity. Looks like JJ wanted a good high five. He just wanted a high five and look it and give it to him. It's all he got to do that. It's got a high five. They wanted more macro than

that though. I mean, the Lakers as constituted and Luka as their centerpiece, they're not as good as the Mav's team that made it to the finals. They are not going to go anywhere in the playoffs because of how they play defense. Your thoughts are what? Retic has a long-term deal there.

He has relative security there. What do you make of that as a team?

So when you said not as good as that Mav's team or you saying because that Mav's team achieved the finals appearance? That Mav's team was a four or five seed that was able to beat the rest of the West to get to the finals. This team is not going to the finals. I don't think they're going to the finals but I think it's also premature to compare them to a Mav's team that also mid-season was struggling until they made really big deals that changed the complexion and

a team acquiring Gaffard and acquiring PJ Washington and that really changed the trajectory of their season. Obviously the Lakers were not able to do that. I think this Lakers roster on day one. We were all like this is not a championship roster. It's a decent roster. It's good compared to where they were a year ago but it's not a it's not in Oklahoma City's category or Denver or Houston or any or obviously we found out San Antonio later but those three teams for sure

we said are head and shoulders Minnesota as well. So to me I'm be surprised if Rob Polinka and JJ Retic and the staff thought yeah we've got a championship team. This is a team that's not athletic that doesn't defend and usually say well they're really good offensive they hit a lot of threes well they don't shoot threes well either. So they don't really have a way of punishing you one way or another. You can be unathletic and slow but you better be the best shooting team in the league

or you can be not a good shooting team and be athletic and defend like crazy like the Detroit

Pistons are what you can't be is neither of those things and that's what the Lakers are.

I mean would you pay Austin Reeves? Who's we? Who is I? Am I the Lakers? You are the Lakers?

You are the Lakers.

kind of money to him and that money to Luca and I'm assuming that kind of money to Lebron James then now I have no flexibility and every dollar you spend over here is a dollar I can't spend over there and I can take what I'm what Austin Reeves has worth and I can get a bunch of role players to make a deeper. Now if we're saying Lebron's out the door that's a different story

that changes things because now that frees up 50 plus million dollars that I can now spend on

other things and I can pay Austin Reeves to stay. If you were the Lakers wouldn't you let

Lebron and Reeves go and just go ahead and start it over around Luca? I don't think you need to

be that drastic. If you're going to let Lebron go that's one thing right but then Reeves like okay I want to get another number two guy. Well Reeves is played pretty well that you're particularly before Lebron came back so I think I would go with him and then I'd take the rest of that money and I would say I need a real center not DeAndre 8 I need real wing defenders I need real three point shooting and and kind of go around building that team as such but again this is the part you

guys talk about killer where earlier in the way it's supposed handling him and this is the guy who's not even two years into the league like is it possible that we're gonna give him tough love for a little bit longer than 10 minutes and that the results don't have to be immediate I was listening to Rich Paul and Max Kellerman and Max was saying that delayed gratification is a sign of maturity

meaning if you can wait for the reward as opposed to like one at now now now now now now now that's

the sign that you've reached a higher plan and I agree 100% yes hello where wants to play yeah you probably hate spoke for not playing them guess what man that doesn't mean he's right in the moment and that doesn't mean what's suppose doing right now isn't part of a longer-term plan to make this guy the type of player that we all think he can be do you think though back to Reeves and Luca really fast to me do you think you can really contend with a back court of two

offensive first players that are cones on defense I can't you can't if the rest of the roster is built

to take care of that if you have if your three-man is long and ranging can defend if your four is a guy can guard down and guard up if your five is a bona fide rim protector if you're bringing people off the bench will bring energy yeah I think you can do it and I think also more can be demanded of at least Austin Reeves maybe Luca as well I think Luca at this point as I said last week Tigers don't change their stripes to just change jungles think Luca is who he is but you can absolutely

build around it that's why I reject whenever people say defense wins championships or like oh you

need a big three to win a chip no you don't need what you need to have as a good team and however that looks however you build it is how it comes about where are you on and you mentioned this during weekend observations briefly on yokech and dork it seemed like yokech was responding to the sensitivity of that's the knee I injured more than that's the dirtiest play I've ever seen but it was dirty right yeah it's a dirty play and he responded and jaylon Williams got right back in his face

it didn't back down and again this is the NBA guys do things and guys getting to other spaces I don't know if it's about the knee specifically I was probably sensitive about getting hurt in general

now that he's had his first major injury of his career but again I go back to I mean bro you kind

of did the same thing a dirty ass play that has no place on a basketball court now it's talk about there are ways to impose your physicality there's ways to cross the line I mean look think about like we talk about aprons all the time in terms of basketball finances but there's a first apron of physicality as a second apron the first apron is I can hit check you I can give you an elbow when I'm coming across like I could do these things and like it's a foul but it's we accepted

and then the second apron is things like tripping guys shoving guys blindsided like soccer punches that has no place that is out of bounds and and what Lou Dort did was out of bounds does it make him a bad guy but he did something that I thought was kind of dirty do you know anybody that heads into a fight the way that yo-kitched did forehead first because it's not that he just got in Dort's face he literally got in Dort's face by going for by first of all coming down about I don't know

eight inches and then just putting a rage in everybody's face by going forehead first John Starks did that didn't he? John Starks did that but he was leaning against Reggie and then at some point Reggie said one more thing and John Starks just he popped him and then Reggie went oh and he like you know he did the Reggie Miller thing and John Starks is ejected and Reggie stayed in the game thank you a main good seeing you we will talk to you again next week I will tell all of you that

I am scared of the person who fights forehead first the person who comes in looking for the fight

With the forehead and knows how to use the forehead as a weapon is not a pers...

what I'm gonna go ahead and drop my sword and walk in the other direction if you're aggressive of enough that you go for head-first.

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