Hour 2: The Return Of Goat Piss Mike (feat. Brett Erlich)

My grind worked you excited when you saw Brett Ehrlich was joining us because of your fascination with his rotten tomato show because you've been following this guy for 15 years?

“Yeah, I love that show on Al Gore's former TV network current.”

They had some good programming there on the rotten tomato show was really, really funny. And if it were still around, I'd still be watching it. It's a damn shame. It didn't have a longer run. So when I saw Brett Ehrlich on the guest, I'm like, "Is that the dude from the rotten tomato show thinking that nobody would understand the reference that I was making because it was on Al Gore's network?" Look at how excited he is right now. He's the director programming of the young Turks network. He's a comedian. He's been doing a lot of funny political comedy for a while.

He's the host of Happy Half-Hour Wednesdays 830 pm Eastern, but what's the matter with you, Brett? You look like you were raising your hand like a kid in class wanting to talk. Well, you know, when I got the invite, I thought it was an April Fool's joke because this is kind of a dream come true for me. And it wasn't until that moment that everything became real. So I'm happy to be part of it. Thank you for watching the rotten tomatoes show.

We always joke that we were minor league cable sensations, and apparently that's the truth. Thank you so much for watching in "Autate."

I hate to break it to you, Brett, but this is an elaborate April Fool's joke. You're not on the show. We're not on air right now. Welcome to Mystery Crazy. But what's a dream come true because the reason I wanted to have you on is I heard you. I've been fascinated by what's going on with the billionaires in this country. I've been fascinated watching what happened to Elon Musk and how his public persona has shifted. And I specifically was very interested in the way you talked about political comedy and John Stewart going after him.

“And why it is that you love that as comedy more than any other kind of comedy. So thank you for joining us. But why is this a dream come true for you?”

I've been listening to you on the way to work every day. I follow everybody involved in your, I love just this pot of people who are not only covering sports, which is a passion of mine, like my dad played football for UCLA, won the Rose Bowl in 66. My cousin's Billy pitch for the Red Sox, huge sports fans, all my life in our family, and then hearing people still kind of speak their mind and say what they want to say. It's, it's, it's awesome. It's fantastic. It's a dream come true. There's tons of fans of you guys over at TYT.

Well, thank you for joining us. Can you explain to the audience here what it is that you were saying before we get into the damage that Elon Musk is doing. Specifically what you like about the details of John Stewart and Elon Musk going back and forth. Just about the two of them going back and forth, it is the difference between a billionaire and a comedian. There is no better counterpoint to a billionaire than a comedian. Especially a Neppo baby comedian, a billionaire like Elon Musk. This is someone who's dad could afford an emerald mine and bought it with money. He got from selling a plane, which is a mad lib of the mad state of affairs of a billionaire life.

And then so yeah, basically he did that and everybody said yes to this guy his whole life.

And if you're a comedian, you basically spend a lot of time in literal underground subterranean comedy clubs. And people are saying no to you. And it's your job to get it right to understand something fundamental about the human condition. And then if you do that long enough with enough different subjects, then you get to the level of John Stewart. And you are essentially, you've been training your whole life for this. And Elon Musk has just been getting weaker and weaker as he's become more successful and more successful surrounded by Yesman.

Stewart has said that Musk's ex algorithm has greatly acted in the warping of our democracy and Musk responded by calling Stewart an extremely skilled propaganda disguised as a truth teller. What is the real damage done here? Well, I mean, the best is like the response from John Stewart. He's like, well, you're just a really skilled propagandist implied you're not even masquerading as a truth teller.

Basically, in the wake of Joe Biden Super Bowl tweet getting more exposure and impressions, then Elon Musk,

the reports were that Elon Musk like pulled together all of his engineering team to say, please make me cooler and more famous. Make it so people whether they opt in or opt out of my tweets, interact with my tweets or not. Fundamental things about the algorithm they're supposed to signal to the algorithm like whether your ideas are good.

“He's like, could you please do away with that and make it so that I'm in everybody's inbox?”

Because I'm rich, which makes me better. And we can just force feed my ideas as we masquerade saying that this is a, you know, free exchange of ideas, the great marketplace of thought.

you're just surrounded by like the worst ideas you don't particularly like or agree with. And the only people who rise at the top of that are people who agree with Elon. You guys have seen that report, right, that 18 engineers were called in in the middle of the night because Biden had a Super Bowl tweet that had more engagement than Musk's Super Bowl tweet.

“For people who don't understand, Brett, how is it that this has actually had an impact on democracy?”

How is it that this platform has this power and how is it that this person knew that this platform would have the power to actually bleep with democracy? Because I wouldn't have guessed at any time in my lifetime that there would be such a platform in America. So I just remember one time I got invited to lunch when I was working at Al Gore's current TV by a guy who wrote it in the New York Times and he was telling me all the secrets we just kind of had a few beers and he was like, listen, when I read when not him personally, but when people write articles, there's this phenomenon called one to trend.

And basically, if you can find two things that say the same thing, that's not an article, but if you get three things that say the same narrative,

well then you're good to go, go ahead and print it. And Twitter is just always the fastest thing at helping you look what's happening now and then see what people are saying about it.

And if you are the lazyest, least common denominator type of journalist, well you can just find those things super fast and throw them up there. And that is the kind of like self-free enforcing dynamic of Twitter that helps not only get people who go to Twitter to see what's trending right now. So some things at the top, that's the narrative as soon as it happens. I don't know anywhere else where that happens because like either you're live, if you're live, you're like looking at Twitter to see and you're broadcasting just stuff on Twitter.

It was like the fastest place to find out what's happening and what people are saying about it. And if you can get in charge of that, you're not only controlling Twitter, but you're controlling all the reporting on the subject that's breaking now. Let alone like the source video from people who are there. Mike Ryan theorized something I had not heard before today. Have we killed April Fool's Day because of the amount of disinformation out there. At this point, people are too careful and you cannot do April Fool's Day correctly anymore.

“Yeah, I think you can, you just have to, and I know this is harder to do now, like know the person personally, and you have to like have small little micro interactions where you're like totally ruin it for someone.”

But like on a macro level, the thing I've been saying for years is like we've never had so much access to so much information with so little ideas to what the hell is happening.

That's a hell of a sentence. Or on our tombstone. And Brett, it's a coordinated effort, right? Like you had things like Photoshop and things in the 2010 start making their way in there. Dan was constantly fooled by a shark that was swimming in a mall or on a street corner. But but once like the blue checks were free for all and you had no idea if the person was, I mean, Elon, as you mentioned, he tried to tell this as a news source and then he did away with the the guardrail that ensured that you knew that it was coming from an authentic source.

This all seems by design so you can actually hold those who are lying accountable. Yeah, and then add to sprinkle in that like him just wanting to be cool. And like that's it. Like he just wants to be cool. So he's he puts all that stuff together and you don't know what's happening.

But you know that the people I see like I never in or I use the like Russell brand like he came on the rod tomato shows awesome.

I blocked him muted him so many times he's still in my Twitter feed, but like yeah, it's it's rough man. It's rough to find out what the heck's happening. Hello listeners and friends, boy, the feedback on that night that I had with my good friend Mo Chetta while we were drinking Miller lights watching hoops. It's been outstanding so much so that we've decided to do it again. That's right. I'm going to pick up the phone and call up my good buddy Mo Chetta and say hey he this college hoops turn him in is still roaring. Why don't you come over and on your way over pick up some Miller light anywhere they sell beer and let's put those bad boys on ice.

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Dan Lebatar. Baker may feel tearing up 10th of bay 38 for 45. Two gots. Shreddome. This is the Dan Lebatar show with this two gots. One of the things that is happening is a number of different comedians like Theo Vaughan have gotten popular during this time and Vince Vaughan appeared on Theo Vaughan's podcast. We got a Vaughan off here and they're talking about late night television. Here's here is Vince Vaughan. What are your thoughts here?

“Yeah, because people want authenticity. Yeah, and I think that I think that the talk shows to a large part became really agenda based. Yeah, they were going to evangelical people to what they thought you know what I mean.”

And so people just rejected it because it didn't feel authentic it felt like they had an agenda. It's not being funny and it started feeling like I was in a class I didn't want to take, but if you look at what happened to the talk shows and why their ratings are low, it's got only to do with the fact of what you just said, which is they all became the same show. And they all became so about their politics and who's good and who's bad and it's like imagine sitting next to someone like that on a f***ing plane. Oh bro, you'd be like how do I get out of this f***ing far right next Holy cow.

Yeah, there it is. The thing, this is what I don't like about those guys. I mean, I love it's Vaughan. He's super funny. I love Theo Vaughan. He's the best at saying ridiculous things well, but like all this it's just the criticism so or the hypocrisy is so obvious. So what's your counter argument from people who say that? It's a lot of people who are like, I'm going to tell you my political opinions, I just don't like yours because they conflict with mine. And I understand man, like it's super cringe when you're watching like a late night TV show and someone like you just turned it on to find out like who's the star in the latest movie and you get some kind of like political message that isn't well crafted. Like if that happens, that's bad.

If the joke is good and the criticism is undeniable, then you're just complaining because you don't like the truth. He's saying this on Theo Vaughan's podcast about, you know, talk shows becoming an echo chamber and propaganda machines, Theo Vaughan. So like we had, yeah and exactly, well he's just like a patty, right? Like it's funny like right before Charlie Kirk was killed like we had him on the show on our show on Theo Vaughan's like just to find out like what do you or what are your thoughts?

“How do they overlap if like a generally like people first movement like what do you agree with that we say?”

And like, yeah, I don't know man, like all of those, I made a video afterwards or like right before he was killed where I was just showing all the manosphere appearances with all these right wing people who were trying to, you know, obviously being like my skill is I don't sound like a politician. I'm still full of crap when I talk, I just am full of crap differently. I'm, I'm JD Vance. I wrote a movie. I'm a chill guy, right? Even though he's a robot, I saw him in a wall greens at the RNC and he instead of walking like this, he walks with his hands forward like this.

And their arguments are so dorky. Like it's Ben Shapiro going like, oh, look at this cover in this album with Taylor Swift, what's she doing her butts out? It's like, yeah, so you're telling Theo Vaughan, like you don't like girl butts, what happens when they recognize that, right? They're arguments are like, listen, like, they're oddly obsessed with and they're wrong about sports stuff. Like their main argument. That's the most offensive. That's the most offensive.

It's true. They're like, oh my god, Travis Kelsey can now afford a ring because he's with Taylor Swift. It's like he's podcast is worth a hundred million dollars.

“You guys just don't know this. They're so dorky and then everybody's going to catch on and that's what's happening now.”

Happy half hour with Brett Ehrlich is where it is that you find him. We have a number of absurd headlines from the pop culture, trough of headlines and debates, what else other than this one has got your attention, which has gotten the most of your attention. I mean, the one thing that's happening right now is like the Christy gnome situation with her husband. Basically she's cheating on him with Cori Lewandowski according to all the reporting and now it's come out. Someone has leaked it. Not Christy gnome that he likes to dress up with like movies and, you know, interact with adult stars online or whatever.

Which I'm fine with. I just think it's, I don't know why they're breaking up. They both like to play dress up in front of people. That's weird. I was trying to read into what you were saying because my first thought was, who benefits from this? Christy gnome actually. They're going to be a huge, there's a huge portion of people that won't feel any empathy towards her at all, right? But this does kind of help rationalize the affair that became so public during the congressional hearing.

This is kind of like making her a sympathetic figure for the eventual book tour.

I think to a degree. So when it surprised me if she wore behind this, this orchestrated league. Oh, 100%. And also the, the quotes from her are like, I am devastated to learn this. Yeah.

“Well, you're not even doing that narrative, right? If you're learning this now, why did you sleep with Cori Lewandowski?”

If you live, if you do it before, I could motivate that. But it seems like you're just post hoc justifying your Dalians. Brett, thank you for your maiden voyage on the show. He's good talking to you with appreciate your time. You don't follow any of us on social media.

Yeah, you don't follow me on Instagram or Twitter. I mean, what are you talking about? He said all of us. He follows me.

Listen, I don't, I don't, I don't like painstakingly check to see who's following me on Instagram.

But you guys do. And so that takes you down and not you for me. You're pathetic. I'll go. Oh, look, you embarrass me in front of Brett. He's the director for all of the whole young Turks network. Thank you, Brett. I appreciate your pathetic. All of you. Looking at whether he's following you or not. I'm disgusted by all of you right now. Thank you, Brett. Good talk and pause, me.

Thank you. That's not so good.

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You guys are not going to remember the first champion in the history of the looks like tournament.

And he is no longer with us, but it was Louis Holtz, and it was represented by. Louis Holtz looks like a train conductor. Another game to play here is who voiced that? That one's pretty clear, but there'll be a few tricky ones. Bob Lee, the goat was Bob Lee.

Is that the goat discussion we're having? Bob Lee also, he would be a goat voiceover guy. Louis Holtz looks like a train conductor. I don't know how we got him to say yes to that. Dude, I worked it for months.

I'm very proud of that.

“Villanova, who was the voice in the champion on Villanova?”

Jake Holtz looks like the guy trying to break into a house on an alarm company commercial. That was 2016 champion right there. What the hell? The voice? Play it again, play it again.

Jake Holtz looks like the guy trying to break into a house on an alarm company commercial. Was that Kevin Winter? No, it's not Kevin Winter.

That's got to be an anchor of something.

That is a broadcast voice at ESPN that we were using, but I don't know. Was that Dan Dan, the Bungino? Yes, a Duke Davis? I'll text Billy. I don't remember that voice.

Roy's got no nominee here. No, I was definitely a radio-sports center anchor. That's I think that's ringing a bell. Dan the Duke Davis? Sure.

That, yeah, sure. Sounds right. I think I was last name wrong, though. I think he might have been Dan the Duke someone else. Doc, it's lovely.

The 2018 champion was Villanova. That means this was the champion. Jackie McMullon looks like your mom's friend, Carol. [laughter] The tank is area.

The 2019 champion was Virginia. Virginia was represented by? Tony Saragusso looks at the guy about to take a bite of a hot dog. Only to have it stolen by Spider-Man swinging overhead. That's one Daniel Baldwin.

Daniel Baldwin. I thought that was actually Saragusso voicing his own. Tony Saragusso looks at the guy about to take a bite of a hot dog. Only to have it stolen by Spider-Man swinging overhead. It sounds so much like Alec.

Let's just say it's Alec. The 2020 champion was the following. Andy Reed looks like the small town's sheriff that falls asleep while watching the prisoners. Wakes up briefly to yell out who's there to know one in particular.

And immediately falls back asleep while the prisoners continue to carefully reach for the jail cell keys dangling from his belt. Unreal. Amazing. That was fan voted because in 2020 there was no March

madness tournament, so that was voted by thank God. I have to see what I want it. I mean, I thank God for COVID. Let me take that one back. Stop down.

Drag play on for me. Wakes back you. Carl Ravich was the voice on that one. That one was decided by the police. That was the police.

That's all right. Get to me. If it were Carl Ravich, I would have flipped my lid. It's a play on for me. Play on.

I was going to play tonight. If it were Ravich, I would have been winging out. That's a bold fish. Did somebody say lie? No.

I was trying to do. I was trying to do Fibilan. I did it poorly. No, we know. 20, 20, like Demory.

21, 21 champion bailer was represented by. Doug Peterson looks like he specifically asked for full custody of the basement air hockey table in his divorce.

“Honestly, we should bring go piss my guy.”

I honestly tried. I forgot all about that guy. That was a great voice. Doug Peterson looks like he specifically asked for full custody of the basement air hockey table in his divorce.

I was an inspired choice. I worked on that one for months. Put it on the pole. Do you remember goat piss my stuff? Get for you.

Go piss. Yeah. Tough for them, Bob Lee. We're not talking enough about Dan Hurley. Dan Hurley won the looks like tournament in 2023.

With his Eucon team. Pajo has a like your brother's friend, Devon,

That's the great one. I forgot that champion.

“Pajo has a like your brother's friend, Devon,”

who everyone just calls D.

That's a good group of champion. That's a great one. That was a done. I never wanted it. That was it.

That's it. All for a couple of years. All our champions gathered here today. In order to welcome in the final four, you can also on Greg Cody's podcast.

The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody. He's going to perk up here because there's a recent Mount Greg 4. Yes. What's it called?

The Mount Greg 4. Bracket Challenge. Greg 4. Greg 4. One word capital F.

And we're down to the final four, which is hoops against nobody knows. Nobody knows what this is. You can feel free to explain to anybody what it is. You know what it is.

How you have to see. Look. Look. It can't be this. Okay.

Greg. It can't be.

I'm only sitting here so that you promote my podcast.

And then we promote your podcast. And you don't know anything about your podcast. You're flipping through papers. You want to. I think it's.

You want to know. I mean, you can't, it can't be. I need you to promote my podcast. And then it's that kind of indifference. You want to know.

You want to know the final in nets versus hoops. Or pools versus 64. Give us the winners and all four. Like give us the five of you checked out on the show. What happened?

Are you tired after two days. You faded out. You haven't been listening for the last 20 minutes. No I have. What what happened?

What I went to you sit around here waiting for me to give you the opportunity to promote your podcast. It's the moment that you're waiting for. I ask you about the Mount Greg for and you just ruffle through some papers.

“And you're like, what is this you're asking me about?”

Is it because you're tired at the end of two days? Full of energy. Are you bored by your own podcast? What is it? No, I'm not.

But you can vote on these final four in the two semi-finals. It's hair nets versus hoop. There it is. So the winner of nets was hair nets. Right.

There were five. And then nets moved on. The winner of hoops was hoop. There it is. Which I was mistook.

So pretty. And hoop. There it is. The other two finalists. In 64 versus pools.

We have Nintendo 64 versus unfortunately swimming pools swimming pools. Swimming pools one. Yeah. I didn't want it. What do you like to call it the shower?

Second place was a pool of blood.

Which I can't paint for. Don't go, Sharon. But they're in the limit pool loaded in swimming pools. What is the pool's category? Well, swimming pools one.

Yeah. The category was in general pools. And he had top five pools, which were. There we go. It's going to lay it on the back to back.

Pooling resources. Pooling resources. It was one option. Number two. It's another gray-cory three.

It was a small pool of blood, though. Right. It was like a trickling down blood. Which I would have voted for. Great.

It was a huge pool of blood. When Eric was on, I had to really refrain from doing a Joe Biden impression when Biden came up. Could I be dead? Yeah. Let me get you back in your comfort zone.

Go ahead. Usually you can count on talking about you being the comfort zone. But we can't count on that today. I don't know if you watch the soccer yesterday. It was the final round of World Cup qualifying.

A lot of newsworthy stuff there in the US who doesn't have to go through this qualification process as a host. A played Portugal. And once again embarrassed itself. Yeah. And like it wasn't.

But a few months ago in the fall of 2025 where you kind of had reason for hope. They had this five match stretch where they beat your pan. They drew against Ecuador. They beat Australia. They're giving up already.

They beat Paraguay. They beat Uruguay. And you had faith that, okay. Maybe Pochotino is a approach of not playing the stars and getting depth. Maybe that's working.

Yeah. And now the last few months of play from this team. As we're just two and a half months away from the World Cup is listless. Right. This is pissing me off so much because we were looking forward to this World Cup for so long.

We thought this generation of players would give the United States a true chance to go deep in a tournament that they were hosting. And they look jaded by the overall experience.

“Like what is wrong with this generation of players?”

They don't have an identity. They don't have a mentality. They don't seem happy to be there. They don't seem to want to be there. And arguably they're best player.

Policic hasn't scored a goal since December of 25. He's playing like shit. He's playing like shit. And I can't recall the last time they beat a team from Europe. I think they've lost six, seven games in a row against European clubs, which is sort of half the beat.

you'll wonder if they're going to get out of the group stage. They could be a colossal fizzle in the World Cup they're hosting. You're right.

“And they're favored to get out of the group stage, right?”

Because it's an easy group. It's an easy group, but they got major problems here. From team selection to inspiration to creativity. They're playing the wrong guys. They should probably be doing a back three.

They're not going through the right guy in attacking. Look, I don't want to sound like a broken record here.

But the US mentality was always that of an organized back line and a counter attacking team to make use of our athletes.

And this whole approach where we're going to try to play with Germany, the way the Germany plays, you get played right off the pitch. And you're not even that when you're going up against the likes of Panama, right? Panama drags you into the mud, and you don't have answers to it. Because you're too busy trying to play joke up in detail.

This is stupid. This is stupid. Now, the only hope, because I don't have hope for this manager. I was trying to couch my initial opinions on it, but he's a career. Pochotino's a career loser.

And I don't think I was high on the aspiration that they went out and got a name. And I was hopeful that it would work, but I followed soccer for several, several decades at this point. Pochotino's a loser.

“Well, wait, did something, this recent loss is the one that broke you?”

No, it's the performance against Belgium, like the team just, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. There were generations that came and went that didn't have others. It still is. They're in an easy group. It still is, and the only hope that I have is that there are adults in the room that realize that they have an easy path to knock around.

Then when it's a knock-around, it's a whole new ball game. And that the hopes of a nation actually connect with them because this generation of players has been so difficult for any manager to connect to. You know, I don't want to, I sound like such a boomer, spoiled, entitled Brats, all that, but they play like it. They act like it, they run from accountability. What has this team ever accomplished?

You know, I miss going into games against Belgium and games against Portugal thinking I had a chance. I'm tuning in to see how bad it's going to be. I have zero hope in these matters.

Okay, always as analysis.

I hate. I don't think those people care or want to be there. How can he make that accusation before we have? We're less than 100 days from the World Cup.

“How can he credibly make the accusation as someone who cares about that sport?”

And it's not about our players or bad. We've been mad at American men's soccer for the almost the entire time. We've had America's men's soccer, except for one land in Donovan goal that represents the excitement about the United States soccer. How can he make that accusation and you don't flinch on our players don't want to be there? I don't feel as vehemently as Mike does, but their recent results beg that opinion.

And at a time when you're looking for a tailwind, you're looking for some momentum to take into June. They've done the opposite. They've slumped. They've been a very bad team for a few months now. And it's just the timing is so bad.

We're not going to do this with World Cup soccer, where we cycle analyze and say, "This guy's wrong for saying they don't care enough." That is recognized as analysis the world over for legit, but how can that be? But then I think Landon Donovan has said this before. It's before real.

This isn't Mike being a guy on his couch with a beard. Oh, he's got his own care as he eats Cheetos out of his belly button. This is something that being said by people who are played for the US men's national team, where now analysts, it's something that's being talked about very openly in the soccer world. The way they play the game is such an insult to anybody that has invested anything in this program,

hoping for this World Cup.

I was looking forward to this World Cup, the second that it was whispered as a possibility.

Maybe. Maybe. In 2002, we went to the quarters. But Mike, in 2002 in Korea, we went to the quarters. And we were supposed to be building on that.

The generation missed the World Cup. And finally, we don't even have to go through the qualification process. Thank God because we're hosting. And this is just insulting. To not think you have a chance.

They missed that. Maybe they needed to go through a qualification. You know, they got a free ticket into the World Cup. And I don't think that's helped their preparation in the league. I desperately want someone in that room to show me they care. I want to see a sense of urgency.

I want to see a sense of acknowledgement of the history and how hard it's been for this program to get to the point that where it is right now.

I don't have faith in the manager.

I don't have faith in the players. I don't even like that. There it is. I don't like that.

“Because his terms can be it's sucky and he doesn't like them.”

And it's about to get worse.

You know what the rarest of things is?

Mike has been very careful about where it is that he places his expectations because to get excited about things is to get disappointed about them more profoundly. This feels like a giant customer betrayal that you can't count on your team even around the patriotism to act like it's caring when you've been caring about the sport for 20 years trying to build it up to this in this country to get to these games.

And Greg they could have these results and have in previous ramps up to the world cup

and I would still hold out hope and believe that the American underdog spirit

when it comes to international soccer would prevail. This team has to show us that they are capable of doing that. So far the signs are not there. You're out already. I'm not.

It looks like a whole place. We're a host nation. Funny things happen. But someone needs to wake up.

“Someone needs to smack these guys across the face and say what are you doing?”

You're wasting this opportunity. This is so huge for the sport in this country. We're all hoping that this could be a launch pad for everyone. We're all going to make so much money. If you just take this seriously and understand the situation, the gravity of it.

And it doesn't seem like they do. And they play like they don't even understand it. I mean, I appreciate his passion. I don't feel as strongly as he does.

“But I think the underlying thing that he's saying is absolutely.”

He's out. He's out. I'm trying to do that to me. I'll be rooting for them. But I don't believe right now.

And I want to believe.