What I still want to do is not the most successful student.
The semester-by-trag-lab-topic soft-behind the internet.
It's like master's real-time. I mean, you can tell that you're back. Yes, you're back from a studio, right? But you don't understand. Exactly, it's obvious, you're back.
Do the whole thing with Viso Steuer. And if they then work, he says, "Catching"? - That's right. - Save Viso Steuer. Hold it then, girl, zurΓΌck. Now it's almost impossible.
I'm dismayed by where my relationship is. His longtime relationship is with Greg Cody on this show. And otherwise, did any of you guys hear the conversation that Greg and I were having moments ago about his list of catchphrases?
βWas anyone close enough to listen to what was happening there?β
- I listened, and it made me feel really uncomfortable. - Did it make you feel bad for me
that I'm sitting there begging Greg Cody
to share his 24th catchphrase on our show. And embargo, his 23rd for his show because we have a killer thing that works with him where we can go through all his catchphrases and just have one more Tony, why are you shaking your head?
- Because that's not how this works, Dan. Okay, this is a man of process. This is a man of words. This is a man of dignity. And you're going to ask him to go forego his own stuff
to just get your little fix. It is not. - No, sir, absolutely not. It's a classic Dan move of like that's awesome. Let's do more of that. But then what would we do next week?
'Cause then there would be no, to anything to update. - I think you need to just acknowledge. This was a great idea by the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody. - Thank you.
- They get me. - Writh.
- I was sending them up, but whatever.
And you just have to promote that, get the rundown when we get it and not force it on your show. Because straight up Dan, you want to steal this. You're trying to steal it for our show. - And I get it. - It's good.
It's good, but you can't jump ahead of the podcast that invented it. You got a way for that to play out.
β- How much would you pay my dad to do number one on this show?β
- No, I don't want number one. - It's been doing number two for 15 years. - I know. - I acknowledged, I acknowledged yesterday that I was wrong about how great a bit that was.
And I called him after the show yesterday to laugh about the fact that he has successfully executed what is going to be a months-long joke. But the conversation, if you'd heard me, begging him for number 24 just so that I can make him read
quickly the other 26 beforehand. What you would have heard is him say, but I don't know what number 24 is yet. Like part of the whole thing is that it's spot. Well, that's the argument.
It wasn't that he wanted it for his own show. It was that no, this needs to be spontaneous. And I'm like, you really don't know what the last 24 are, do you? - I don't recall a top whatever type of list
that is spontaneity. (laughs) It's usually thought goes into these things. - Well, that's the beauty of it, though. And Tony used the word process.
He gets it. He understands. And you ask me to provide number 24 right now. It's like asking Julia Child to take a souffle out of the oven before it's done.
You don't do that, you just don't do it. - I don't think people appreciate enough yesterday that Greg Cody after summoning Casey at the bat as the most famous baseball thing ever written in 1888. He then went to the original prank show
and had the perfect show host name, Alan Funt, to rhyme with Funt. - Yes, Funt. - You don't have a lot of options throughout history that will allow you to find other than Helen Hunt,
something that rhymes with Funt. - There, Tony. (laughs) - Funt is, everybody for the...
β- Everybody for the... - Yesterday is what we yesterday's?β
- The others, they all learn from me. Oh, and now there's like, don't go shower in. - Oh, I believe me. (laughs) (upbeat music) - This is the Dunleba Partial with this two-gots butt cast.
(upbeat music) - Chris, if not for defending champion, MLS champion, Inter Miami, perhaps for the World Cup, soccer is backjack, soccer is backjack, because we have to get ramped up for soccer here.
The world is coming to town and coming to the United States and it's going to be a giant event. And we have the defending MLS champions here. Wittingham, I've been trying to reach Wittingham. Let me do this here.
(upbeat music) - Chris, Wittingham is a fancy lad. My wife has been calling him Wittingham
Because he's engaged.
How many of us are gonna end up going to that wedding
because I don't believe a group of us have been to a wedding in a really long time. - So I would assume that this wedding would get a contingency from here to that. - This is so classic, Dan.
I mean, two-season situation. He thinks everyone's getting invited. - Yeah, Dan, you don't do that, dude. - You don't do that. - You don't reveal it.
I know it's on like his IG or whatever. But you just let people like, it's great coding. You have the shining monument right next to you. Well, not shining. You have a monument right next to you is to why you don't do
the things that you did right now. It's like, you're talking to a bunch of people right now in this other studio, odds are, and I don't know. But odds are, maybe not everybody's invited. You're gonna make some people feel like sometimes.
- I will be invited, but that's cool. - Blessings to him now. - Now, did he text me, asked me for my address? - Yes. - But that's fine, we know.
- Once you go on IG with this announcement, you can't be bringing that on me and complaining about me.
- All right, then let's focus on the second part.
Assuming everybody's invited to the wedding. - Yeah. - Now, I'm invited, but everyone else might not be. - Yeah, as soon as you said that, I was thinking to myself, she's, I don't really assume I'm gonna be invited.
- No, you won't be. - Okay, thank you for that.
β- What is the last wedding that the show went to as a group?β
Because it was mine, was I was the last one to have a group of people from here together in a place? - Yeah, when I juggled for Dan Patrick. - Hit him in the nuts of the door and nuts with an orange. - It was pre-COVID, no matter what, it was pre-COVID.
But, take into your question, won't be this one, because not everybody's invited Dan. - Yeah, my dad and I holding court with Pat Riley, that was a good night. - Yeah, big night. You don't think I'll be invited, huh?
- To wedding. - To wedding? - Wedding? - No? - This is awkward, so you'd see what you've done, Dan. - I ran into him at a Mexican restaurant a few weeks ago, and we had a baffo reunion.
Like, we hugged. - You mentioned how happy he was to see you. - If he wasn't, he faked it. - It was a funny way to tell someone else about seeing someone. - That is fun, that is your dad.
- It wasn't, I was so happy to hear him. - That narcissism is so much so profound that all of us would say it was nice to see someone else. The way he frames it is, he was really happy to see me. - I mean, he was, I don't know.
- But you weren't? - But usually you would say, I'm really happy to see him, I was really happy to see him. Is there anybody else in the world would say that? - I don't know about that, I mean, anybody in the world who just ran into Chris wedding him,
and they reunited him both of them were happy. Because I'm assuming both of you were happy. The way that they would frame that is, I was so happy to see him, not he was so happy to see me. - He initiated the happiness, still leaned in for the hug.
He initiated the reunion. I did a double take because he's with his family. I don't know his family. Who are these people?
β- Why there? - You know, I think you're my mom.β
- Everybody did do the wedding. - Well, I'm a dad just being so happy. - I did do the wedding. - We're there, they were all going to the wedding. But he didn't ask for my address.
So I assume I'm not going. - Woody, if you're listening, no hard feelings, it was good of you to see me that night. - And be happy to see him. - I appreciate that. - I mean,
do you know the name of the corporate sponsor on Inter Miami Stadium that they have rushed, and I don't, I have to salute them because I did not think in Miami something could be built anywhere.
Never mind there next to the airport in time for a season.
That was my question because that bridge still isn't finished. And as long as I've been coming to Miami, they've been working on that bridge. And this stadium, I feel like it went up like in the span of a few months.
- David Samson does any number of crazy, willful things, running seven marathons on seven continents and seven days. He has had no greater achievement in his professional life than building a stadium in this town on time and on budget.
β- You wanted to know the name of Inter Miami's new stadium?β
- I wanted to know if a new stadium. - Yeah, new stadium. - I didn't say that. I said if I asked if he knew the new corporate name for the place where Inter Miami is playing,
I did not say the new stadium. I asked for the corporate name. - You're asking me for the corporate name of the new stadium? - Tell us the new stadium. - I did not ask for the new stadium.
I asked for the corporate name of the place where Inter Miami is playing, do you know what? - The old one, the new one. - New stadium. - All right, tell me the name of the new stadium.
- The new stadium. - It's new, right? - Yeah, it's new. - So I take it, you did new, new, old one. You're asking for the brand name,
you want the brand new stadium? - Yeah, well, the reason I'm asked for the new stadium. - Someone tell me. - The reason I'm asking is because of the wonderful, double redundancies here,
'cause it's not just that it's new new stadium and everyone who says it is gonna sound like they're stuttering.
It's also brand new, brand new stadium.
- That's right, because the brand is new. - It's a new brand. - It's new. - It's young. - The brand is new and you.
- Mm-hmm. - And I what? - You didn't know, you didn't knew. I got the impression that you didn't knew. - He knew.
- You could call it brand new brand new stadium and you could call it new new stadium. I can't believe they got it built.
βLike I really can't, you have to understand.β
We sent Zazlo out the other day in a driverless car and he went in circles until he ran into a traffic light that didn't work because my amy.
It's always something like that in my amy.
Tony is right when he says they have screwed up our traffic in and out of the beach here for many years because they're building an arch. No one needs to hold up a bridge. That will be needed when all of Zazlo Florida is underwater.
But they've been building this for so long. It should be easier to build this than it is a stadium near the airport. But you guys are a surprise design that my amy's infrastructure is going to get to this game
and we're gonna have a functioning new new stadium, brand new stadium, brand new. - I don't know. One of my amy's got to be able to get to the stadium because this was a very aggressive timeline.
I'm not surprised that they got it done because we were asking the same exact questions with the drive pink formerly known as
βdrive pink stadium up and for a lot of dayβ
on that thing went up and like what seemed like seven months and I'm done doubting the moss family when it comes to anything. But one thing is very clear. While the stadium looks ready to go now,
finally all the seats are installed.
Wasn't that long ago that there were no seats installed honestly, it was a matter of weeks. The area surrounding the stadium is not quite ready for showtime and the messaging is already getting out there, please take public transportation.
There is a metro rail stop that takes you to the airport that isn't too far away from where the stadium is. But the signs are there that this is going to be a bit of a cluster leap at least for a match day one but the day is finally here.
- Well, but it's a reach to say that they finished the stadium before the season because-- - Well, yeah, the season's like two months old already. - Right. - But and it's also a reach to say that they finished
βthe entire stadium project because it is an activeβ
construction site.
- The part that I'm surprised by is they are going
to house Mesey, like that's going to happen. Mesey's going to play in a game in Miami in New New Stadium and they're going to have achieved this on time. - Little Mesey.
- To tell you. - The parts of this that Mike has right is for those of you who do not know this area before we put that stadium there between 3 p.m. and 7 p.m. that's the worst place in South Florida to be for traffic.
The worst, there is none worse than that. I'll give you some i-95 as a competitor. But around the airport between 3 and 7, I don't go anywhere and have not gone anywhere for two years because I know I'm going to get caught in two hours of traffic.
This is before you put a soccer cluster bleep doesn't begin to describe what's about to happen here. And while you can say you're downing the most family unless they're bringing everyone in by helicopter, that's going to be a nightmare.
No one's going to get to that stadium on time. Well, sure, it's going to be a nightmare logistically, but for the fact that then putting up an entire stadium and what felt like kind of like a blink of an eye, that just talks about their power in building
and construction, which they have a massive construction company, which is where they made all their money. And we're talking about the art, which is city of Miami, the Miami-Dade Council, and stuff that's going there, that's probably not as fast and not as limber as the Moss family.
- Great at construction, not great at construction sites. Am I saying anything that's incorrect here? And I know we've been talking for a while. Your customer's stadium experience doesn't matter anymore. Like most of these places don't care whether or not
you show up to the game, soccer night yet there in America, but among our big sports, whether you go or not, they've got their TV dollars and the customer matters less. The people who are going to this game physically will not enjoy the getting there, because it's gone.
Mike, you love this team, you know this is a special night. These are defending champions, you used to have season tickets until you got douged out on price, will you go? And if you were to get tickets with the thing that kept you from going only be that it's going to take three hours
for you to get there. - You used to take me three hours to get there before. So this is a tremendous upgrade. And I can take the metro rail there. And I intend to, when I do go to the stadium,
I don't have tickets to opening day on Saturday.
Those tickets send to find me a little bit.
βBut if you want to go check out the new stadium,β
the second match is available for a pretty fair price.
And I think that no matter what, and yeah, I get the worries about it being next to the airport. Thankfully, MLS games aren't during peak travel times. They'll figure it out. Just like they had to figure it out at the drive pink,
because that was a mess getting to park at the stadium, because it was their first time doing that kind of thing. I imagine this will be a mess getting in and out of that stadium at least for the first couple of weeks. But then I'll find it's groove.
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What do we get here? I got a Magnum Condom? We won't get that out. That's shocking. That's huge.
Two guts. Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old. He's right next to the gun. Yeah. He's right next to the gun.
He's right next to the gun. Yeah. Never forget. VCC Don't live a TARD show. With his two guts.
Yeah, I'm going Saturday and I'm not looking forward to the track. Well, nervous about that. I mean, I've got a good day. I'll be fine. It's not more just about the infrastructure.
Guys, this is, this is the Miami market. It's inner Miami. We'll be okay. The previous stadium where this pro team, this MLS champion played at was 15 minutes away from Boca Ratone.
This is huge to have it this close and yeah, we'll be annoying getting in and out. Yeah, not nearly as annoying as driving up to Lockhart Stadium. So then you said something that I got to push back on it that, oh, the stadium experience doesn't matter. And I would say, no, it does matter because that's the stuff you don't have to share.
Right? You share the revenues obviously on the national TV deals. You share the revenues on your local TV deals. That doesn't apply in MLS because it's all to Apple TV. And it should be noted that attendance is a huge part of the business plan in MLS.
They don't have this big booming. We don't know that all the particulars of their deal with Apple, but the business model is get people into the stadiums. I was one thing that MLS was really good at while their TV reach wasn't anything to
Be impressed by their stadium capacity.
Their ability to actually reach die hard soccer fans in this country was always superlative.
But even in the major four sports, attendance is still a huge lifeline, right? One of the parts about the, you know, the move to shorten an NBA schedule. The big obstacle is because owners don't want to give up those home dates. Because if you look at it, there's a way to do it where the national TV people don't lose any games.
You can have the same number of national TV games, which means same amount of inventory, same amount of rights deals money. But, you know, the local deal is the one that will get the haircut. That's not the part where people are saying no, or the owners are saying no, they say no
βbecause hey, that's concessions, that's parking, that's how many, how many million dollarsβ
is generated every single home game. It's still a huge lifeline for all the major sports. I think you're using outdated information here. This is not my opinion, though I presented it as mine. I have heard Samson and Skipper talk about what business people are doing with these
streaming dollars on the sporting class. And they say that the customer is reduced here, who goes to the stadium because of how much money is involved with the high end, that the ticket price on this stuff is not as valuable as the multiples they're getting because they've gotten entirely, they've gotten all these new streams because all of these owners, when you talk about daily attendance on these games,
it pales compared to the 500 million each of these is going to get when you get one expansion
team where they get to share all the money of the $10 billion in expansion money. The dollars are so crazy with television that even your overinflated ticket prices are worth less than they've ever been in the mind of the people who are running these games.
βThey're not worth as much as the streaming dollars of the T.B. rights deals, but there'sβ
still worth something. You're making it into an absolutism, like, oh, because we have this money, I'm doing it because of the pandemic and how it has to be able to do sports without us in the stadiums. That's not how it's happening, right? Like you are conflating, hey, this isn't quite as big a deal as it once was with it's
nothing. I don't need it at all. And that's not the case. There's not then.
If you look across every single major sport, two things are true.
Number one, average ticket prices are higher than they've ever been. Number two, the customer experience is way more extravagant than it's ever been. You can't tell me even ten years ago, the things that we see as common in all these stadiums across the country were common ten years ago. It's not true.
βThe existence of the TV rights money and whatever streaming money, wherever you want toβ
call that, it does not devalue the in-game experience. Otherwise, we would do what a G. League team did about 20 years ago, which is, hey, we're going to have like 100 seats. We're going to sell the 100 seats for an extraordinary luxurious experience at a high dollar amount and we don't care about having it in crowd, in the arena crowd experience.
That's not happening and any of the sports. And so Samson and Skipper can say that because, yes, this thing is getting bigger, but it's like saying, hey, now that I have $500, I don't care about this hundred dollar bill. Regardless, it doesn't apply to MLS because MLS is still a very young league that is very dependent on people going through those turnciles.
When you say, we're not there and you're right, I shouldn't be absolutely about these things. It's not that the customer doesn't matter at all. It's that the the customer matters a lot less. And while you're saying that they're improving the in-house experience and Mike, you're
also right. And I mentioned that in the in the in the preface to it, when I said soccer is different than our four major sports, when Skipper talks about the Super Bowl being on paper view, all of this stuff within the next five years, we're headed there and you're feeling it now.
The way that the customer gets reduced to, hey, you realize that we just need the television dollars and your eyes and your interest. We don't need you necessarily buying our hot dog anymore. We'll charge you the $50 for parking. We're going to keep making it so that your experience at home with sports is better than
your experience at the stadium. I don't think it's too hard to connect these conversations what I mean is trying to say is when you look up Super Bowl tickets, they're $20,000. Uh-huh. They're like the ticket prices are increasing and there is a premium now put on luxury
experience hospitality experience across all major sports because they're trying to get the big money in there. The in fan, the in arena experience for all the majors has certainly been accentuated recently with all these new stadiums. I guess what I'm saying to you is when I say again for now, what do you think the beginning
of that looks like if not for were presently living it?
If whatever it is you're fearing here because yes, once, yes, the Super Bowl ...
is absolutely that expensive.
Wait till I put it on paper view and they can get those dollars and see what happens to the ticket price when no one wants to sit at the stadium anymore because it's what's happening with the television dollars. You can't have all these other oil wells where the companies of the future Amazon Netflix. Everyone else is competing for your eyeballs as we're sitting there watching NFL on Sunday
at home because it's more fun to watch it at home because getting to the stadium is a pain in the ass. I'm talking about Mike when it comes to you and your relationship with inner Miami and you said public transportation, you are using public transportation in Miami. Whole hell of a lot of people are not. If I had to make it a three hour drive for you,
all of a sudden you're interested in going to the game of the defending champions would be less. I would assume. I mean, I went for several seasons and I made that drive once every couple of weeks
to watch inner Miami play and ultimately I got priced out and I decided to like refocus
some of those funds the university in Miami but now that they're playing closer it's something that I'll look at again. I want to be able to take my daughter to a soccer game down here.
βI think the MLS product is enjoyable. For what it was a prefab stadium but for what itβ
was, the Moss family and inner Miami tried to make the hospitality areas something that was impressive, certainly impressive for MLS. I think since this is a permanent structure, I haven't toured the stadium or seen what it's like but I think that they're putting a lot of effort into that because this is a David Beckham own team. They like their VIPs. It's a big part of this whole brand. So I imagine it's going to be impressive. It's going
to be covered. It's going to be a cool place to watch a game. It's soccer specific. I'm excited to have a permanent structure in which our champion MLS team can be playing in and I'm very excited to not be driving 10 minutes outside of Boca with their own for it. This was not a dream location for them. I think that should be pointed out. Like eight years ago when David Beckham stood over here at the Perez Art Museum introducing this whole thing
and the whole dream, they envisioned a waterfront stadium across the causeway near the port, near of Biscayne Bay, waterfront. They didn't get that. So they built the stadium where they are but the Moss family, their expert money makers and they're brilliantly taking advantage
βof what could be the last year of the messy era. That's why they rushed to get this stadiumβ
built because they have to grow a fan base. I think the franchise is probably terrified and rightly so that when messy is no longer in uniform, interest in the franchise may go down. And one other thing I would point out is that in Miami recently and fairly quietly, I don't know how much publicity this got. They started an entertainment wing and entertainment arm of the whole business operation. They've already booked major concerts for that stadium.
They plan to be a year-round magnet for crowds. So they know what they're doing in terms of making money. When you say that though and I don't want to worry about 10 years from now because 10 years from now it's very unlikely that any of this is going to mushroom cloud into what it is. We'd all like it to mushroom cloud into you lose messy. He signed for much longer than next year but because they just they just resigned him. But what Greg Cody is saying this part is really
interesting to me. The history of this. What they envisioned versus what they got. David Beckham strides in international soccer, international icon, Miami, glamour and glitz and I say to him eight years ago, best case scenario for this. What's the best case in it years? He's like there's no way it's the best player in the world is defending champions and we've got a new stadium. Where's it going to be? By the airport. Like they whatever David Beckham imagined here was
not in it was not in Boca was not in Fort Lauderdale. It was not by the airport. He imagined something glitzy and waterfront because they've delivered on all the things you would need to have the monster event thing that you would want to have going into the stadium. You have the defending champions. You have the best player in the world. You have an event to town and you have a new
βstadium in the center of an event town. Is this going to be one nighters are going to be 10 years?β
Because is it going to be one season or are they playing for the next 10 years? Because that stadium is going to be there long after Messi's gone. Look, they were an expansion team and they had good attendance before Messi. I know you could say well that's expansion year excitement,
but also it's very far from the customer base they were trying to reach. So I think soccer is always
going to have a home down here in Miami. I think there's always going to be people interested in going to see professional soccer. And while Messi is not going to be in that shirt forever, built into the business plan is going out and get somebody that's marketable that can wear that shirt. It's one of the bigger brands already in the Americas. And while if you asked David Beckham,
What is this going to look like in eight years, he would have been wrong beca...
Like, but yeah, he wanted waterfront initially, but I drive by the parcel of land in over town in which they were supposed to capitulate and play at. And the airport's way better than that
βplot of land. So I think they actually spun this into quite a win. Can I be me maximum here and askβ
is this going to affect me getting to the airport? I think if you're trying to leave on match day,
the first match day, the properly not going to have all that stuff worked out just the same way
that they didn't have it worked out at the formerly known drive pink. It takes a couple of weeks for that infrastructure and those logistics teams to get a good read on that to get a read on traffic flows. But I do think ultimately, not that it's going to be super seamless because it is a part of an airport, but it's not the only stadium that's near an airport. If anything, the airport infrastructure could be spun to actually helping this stadium if done right. I imagine
with time, it won't be nearly as bad as match day one will be. Saturday helps. They're fortunate that it's not a weekday night game because that's going to be a problem. Those really don't exist in MLS unless you're in concacaf champions cup. Usually, most of the games are on weekends avoiding peak travel times. Don Leopardard. He has been great. He's made great hires. I said,
βall we've said. He's in on it. Everyone is in every one of you this great. I think you're sayingβ
it's all been said. Okay, you got to understand one thing. Stugots. Me maximum. That's right. I say it. That hasn't been said. Okay, understand that. You're the mayor. I say it. That's it. This is Leopardard show with a Stugots. The other investment in business and sports that hummed back to life this week was the University of Miami football team because these are two
interesting things trying to get the foothold in this town that the Marlins never have even
with two champions, right? Because when Mike says where you put things like the the customer base that inner Miami is going to be drawing from. The University of Miami is the closest thing we've ever had down here to a professional team that's not a professional team until recently they were bigger than the entirety of the Panthers. Everything going on five championship, University of Miami football, Mario Chris the ball. It can be said now like he is the conversation has ended about
is the you back. That's over. It was boring old for 20 years. It was everybody who said yes was wrong for 20 years but is the you back? Yes, obviously. Like that's been answered and now is Mike Ryan
is Greg Cody? Are you meant to members? Like because they now have they have now a quarter back
that to me when I watched him play is in the mold of the things you look for in Carson back in Cam Ward. I'm dropping someone in right now who's like very close to being a professional and I'm letting him run my professional team the way that a quarter back has to run a professional team when he's a veteran, when he's poised, when he's somebody who's played big games even if they're at Duke. What did you see at Spring Practice? I saw the guy that I saw in film who's really good at
rolling out and throwing a pro throw to the sidelines very accurately and that's what I wanted to see
βin person. That's what I saw. I think you'll have the best offensive line in the best wide receiverβ
room he's ever had. I mean they took Duke's leading receiver and they added them to this room and last year we were really worried about the receivers and that depth got tested especially when Daniels went down. The receiver room is really impressive here. Mensa's exactly who I thought he would be. Jackson can't well is a freak. Now I don't think that the offensive line is going to be the same or as good as last years but it's still going to be the best that Mensa's ever had. And I think the
coolest part is seeing the community take to Malikai Tony. Malikai Tony and Cam Ward he was the number one pick but he came in from Wazoo. He didn't have this fanfare. This is the biggest store that I've seen at Green Tree in my adult life. The way that kids look at Malikai Tony. The way that high school recruits that are maybe two years younger. Look at Malikai Tony. Like there's something there. He's tapped into something with this community because if you're familiar with
this story, this guy's been a local football legend for like eight years. People have been talking and whispering about baby Jesus and sharing highlights of baby Jesus. He's a prodigal son, right? And he believed in this process the way that Jeremiah Smith did it. And to see people whip out their phones and quiet, it's shush people when Malikai Tony has this presence around them. That's a type of energy that I haven't seen at Green Tree in a very long time.
Yeah, they may have to pay to keep them. I'm imagining. But Mario Christmas. Yep, they already did. They did. They did. They did.
Yes, they did.
the portal for with three excellent quarterbacks in a row. He owns the portal. But everybody
βforgets in 2017. I think it was Mark Rick had the number two ranked team in the second.β
No, they were number one. So my point is the U is back unquestionably, but now it's about sustainability. Now it's about not having the three loss. That wasn't this, okay. They were number two and if they'd beaten pit, they would have been number one and they lost against pit. But we all knew that Stephen Morris and all of that was bandages and nonsense. That's not what we're talking about. Now, for first round picks, for first round picks, first of all. Yeah, that's debatable. It'll
probably be three. Okay, but still when when's the last time? When's the last time? They had a couple
of those on the same team. Never mind the same past rush. The thing about the formula to me
that is impenetrable is they're now dropping season quarterbacks who want to play into the professional cauldron of do you want to get better? It's better for you here than it was it do. Duke's actually won the conference and we actually haven't. Doesn't matter. We're the place where
βthe first round picks go. We're the place that's going to get you to the pros. We're the placeβ
that the quarterbacks want to be. You want to know why? Because we got a number one pick and came award because Carson Beck has just flown up the draft here when we watched him play big games for four years the last of them at Miami. They just got a quarterback that they know is good. Even though we don't know how much the surrounding talent around him was good at Duke. We know now when Malachi Tony is your number one receiver, but you get to go and steal the guy who's got
chemistry to make him your number two. Like the guy he's got chemistry with he played with all of last year you just dropping him into a receiver's room that didn't really have a number two last year. Everything you say is undeniable and nobody's arguing about it. My point is right now they're dealing with expectations moving forward that they haven't dealt with for a quarter of a century. They have to win now. The expectation is talked up. The pressure is talked up. They're the betting
favorite to win the conference ahead of SMU. Now the expectation is win the agency. It's going to get easier now though Greg because the hard parts done. The hard, the hard, no, the Greg. What do you mean? What do you mean? The hard part is done. It's getting the first round picks to choose your school. Once you prove you can do that, everyone wants to get to the money. Like that, the problem that they had for 20 years is the first round picks weren't either being
developed here or found before they were first round picks. Now it's not refutable. One of your chief concerns. If I tell you last year's team, you know, national runner-up
βgreat season they lose, I think it's going to be for first round picks. Can you not take Scott'sβ
protege? It was outrageous. And I know people that are at the coaches meetings right now and he's certainly a buzz about name. You lose four first round picks. Naturally, the worry is how are we going to replace these guys? That's not my worry. When I go to practice, we got the guys to replace these
guys. The problem is going to be replacing that mentality because those four first round picks were
absolute psychos. Mario Christmas would not agree with you that the hard part is done. The hard part is living up to expectations, sustaining expectations, winning a national championship. They're on the precipice. They haven't done it yet. Greg, you can't assume. You're both right. You can't assume the arc is dead. You're both right. Mario Christmas will say this is a unique challenge and trust me. He's talked to other coaches across sports how to deal with this and look, we got 40 of these guys
weren't on that team. You know, they have this expectation, but respectfully, the hard part was digging this program out of words been for the last 20 years. And you say no doubt, but you just argued with it. Like you are really underestimating, okay. Mario Christmas comes in for four years,
90 million dollars and everybody says what are they doing? What are they doing? They're making a
90 million dollar down payment on note. We're going to play in this every year. We're going to you're going to know that we're going to compete for this every year. Why? Because the pros play here now. Like that is, you say what's the, what's the, what's the hard part? Winning a national championship is hard, but I can make the argument with four first round picks you under it. Chief, didn't he Anna doesn't have four of those? Ah, they might have three. Like people like to do this thing
within the Anna. Yes, not a sound that is Miami plenty of talent. Okay, but Miami had a bunch of first round picks one year and got beat by Ohio State who didn't have a bunch of first round picks, but had like 14 players drafted, not a bunch of first round picks, but had a bunch of pros on the field. Indiana's older. My point is that you just played against the team that had the best college resume in the history of the sport for the national championship. And you now have what Lane
Kiffin said Alabama had every time they walked onto the field, which is you w...
And you're like our guys are all bigger than theirs. We have like the whole thing is built on
for all of the guys that we're talking about being drafted. Okay. The whole things built on we're going to be more physical than you up front. They haven't even gotten the skill guys there yet. Cam Ward was one of them, but they haven't actually gotten the receiver room, the tight end room. That's the one place. That's the one hole on on this scene that I see that and who's going to be Jacobi Thomas who's going to be Kianta Scott who's going to be Ruben Bane who's just an absolute
psycho about winning. We'll see how that plays out during camp. Is that in the one hole isn't the
βtight end? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Greg likes it. You think that digging them out of the holeβ
they were in for 20 years that there's something harder than that because they were trying for 20 years to dig out of that hole. Once you get to that game and are the number two teams, the leap from there isn't a very large one. Like you now expect, you say expectations are a different thing. You now expect, you end to win the conference, you now expect you end to play a playoff game. Yeah, I do. And you get to live up to it. But do you know how different that is? But do you know how different?
Do you know how hard it is to get that? Like they've gotten to that and Mike was at spring practice and Mike can be lightheaded about these things because he said Carson Beck looked better than Cam Ward last spring. But what did you see? Did you see in a preachable difference in what it is you're watching now versus what it is you were watching three years ago? Yeah, over three years ago. Like I've been a practice as a green tree since the Mark Richter era and I've been lightheaded
and I've not known the way that it's supposed to look and now borrowing off my past experience.
βI think I've been pretty level headed and also pretty right about the university in Miami.β
It looks a certain way. The same way that it did last year, there's not a talent drop off. If anything, the talent across a board has gotten better. You hear me? It's gotten better despite
losing four first round picks. I would say, you know, the the biggest challenge for this
program isn't even having success in the CFP anymore. It's winning the conference something that they haven't done. They've only gotten to Charlotte once. I've told this story before but it's interesting to see Mike have the perspective from the other side where you're watching what UM has been for 20 years close up on the field and you're like, I don't think that looks how
βit needs to look and then you see what the pros look like and you're like, oh, okay, that's what I missed.β
My first time in a locker room, the guy I'm talking to is Jerome Brown. The first guy I'm talking
to is a fellow student is a human being who's not a student and that's my introduction to what this is supposed to physically look like. It's taken 20 years for Mike to see the players on the field that now look like perfection. Right. Yeah, especially on both lines. You're entirely right about that. They're bigger. This is I know I don't improve that level. I'll show you with the stugas. Gamble on by draft Kings.


