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Local Hour: The Duke(s) Of Haz(z)ard

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Tony Jeremy.

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Well, you would general was it was it wasn't one on a winning side. That was a boss. The general Lee is what the name of the car was. You guys want to guess at the height of that shows popularity because I was just thinking about this this weekend because I had not realized that this show was this popular.

It was the first television show that I watched with any regularity back when there were only three networks and it was on Friday night.

You laugh. You think I'm the only one watching. One in three American televisions were tuned into that show. It was 40 million people were watching that show at its height. There is what is the closest thing today that could come to that that's not the Super Bowl. Like what what exists anywhere in our fractured television landscape that would come close to being even half that. I don't know if I felt weak seven. Marlon's baseball. Yeah. Okay. Any serious answers because sports outside of sports is there's such a thing. Is that time.

Hey, pop demon hunter. Is that thing so dead? Is that time so dead that it's not possible given like what is the most watch television show right now because you have to appeal to everybody with network television with free television.

It almost can't be a streaming show because there are too many people in the country that don't have money and just have the regular channel.

Right. Like you basically described it. We'll never have TV show ratings like that again for TV shows because there used to be three networks.

And that's it. And either why should already turn to TV off. And now there's just beyond how many channels and how many streaming platforms are there so many more entertainment. I mean, I mean, look, if I'm on YouTube or if I'm on TikTok or Instagram, I'm not even consuming produced content. But if you had to, if you had to choose a modern day equivalent of because I, you know, Game of Thrones felt a little bit like this and that people had to watch it live didn't want to watch it three days later.

It was sort of a point in viewing, but I don't think I think HBO still even max. I think it's still too much premium television. What would be the thing today that would pass for what it is that that was and what would that number be it's it's not even 10 million right the walking dead had some of this yellow stone had some of this.

But it wouldn't even be 10 million correct it wouldn't even be a fourth of what it is I'm talking about the blue episode with Mickey Mouse across over.

Yeah, I mean, it had like 10 million viewers beat all you ever saw gotten trouble with the loss today. They was born. So they were getting chased around by somebody like what was this was a story. They ran out of story lines really very early. I can explain it for an easily Tony. They weren't a small town in rural Georgia and they were kind of like good nature and mischievous guys. They're getting trouble with 90 real trouble. And they were kind of solved some mysteries. It's up. Also, there's a guy in town called boss hog. He's kind of the boss hog of town. He didn't like them. And they're they're cousin Daisy.

Jessica. There you go. Did you see Tony did you ever see smoking in the bandit? It was all playing off of that conceit. No, did not see that conceit. We were playing young today. Was the number one seed as cut cousin that at JCPenney looks like his bad Jack.

It's bracket tops. Oh, make a chart. The champion got new look just like the queen of heart because Adam silver. Look like a torpedo bag. Let's get more sadness back on track. Looks like his bad Jack. When the doughnuts are in front of you.

Does any recito mind if I do? Adam silver looks like a cute kid face. Or find a bag of onion trees.

When Timmy left some tilley. That's how you know that looks like his bad Jack.

Let me hear you say. Looks like his bad Jack. Let's keep on doing it every year. Don't ever miss a bar to welcome too dangerous.

Look like his bad Jack.

Northwestern is gone from the tournament.

Jim Harba looks like a casket salesman. Fairly Dickinson 16 seed rep by might. Might may Daniel look like a college student on the floor rat scholarship for eSports. What a run. Put it on the pole. Please. That Levitard show.

Is there anything better in the history of sports than Duke choking?

And I think it goes for the entirety of my lifetime. Like Alabama is a bit of a Johnny come lately in football. Duke 20 years before that before Nick Sabin before Alabama football. Twenty years before that everybody was rooting for Duke to choke. That team is good enough. It should be unbeaten.

Like that team shouldn't have lost a game this season. That team has two unfathomable losses on its resume. The same North Carolina did the same thing to him that you con just did. Where you con's one for a team from three. And wins a game because they go whatever it was four out of five or five out of six from three at the end after starting one for 15.

But I mean, you're a veteran sports observer.

Give me something that American sports fans enjoy.

American sports fans enjoy more than Duke specifically choking. Not just losing choking up and down. You can put the pictures up of John Shire. You can put the pictures up of stunned people because you do not expect that. You can't expect that game to go that way.

Brayland Mullins became household name and became a household name for all time for taking that shot. A team again that started one for for 18 from three. What would you guys nominate for things that American sports fans enjoy more than Duke choking? Cowboys doing anything bad. Anytime the cow anything bad happens to the cowboys.

One takes great delight. Man, I think Duke is even bigger and better because the cowboys for all that they are. They don't give off. We're smarter than you. They may give off or the fan base may give off.

The we're better than you. But not we're smarter than you. Yankees choking.

When the Yankees choked in O4 that was like.

World renowned. Thank God the Yankees choke again. Good good nominees. But no school or no entity has what this thing does. Which is an elitist.

We're more educated than the people who are rooting for our demise. We're. Don't what is better than or idea. The the old you're going to work for us one day or whatever. Right.

That's the crowd that right. I'm trying to think. I don't know. I see the game you're playing Harvard. Yes.

It's it's the same. Yes.

If Harvard were good at sports that's what it is.

If Harvard were good at sports and they gave off that they were smarter than you. And at the end you're making fun of them because they look like they're not smarter than you. At the end there when you've got two people down the court to Duke Blue Devils down the court. You legitimately could have just thrown the ball up. Instraining the air toward one of them.

And you would have had a better result than the one that you had. Tell me. Ask you this question because you are obviously the elder statesman in the room. My memories of Duke start with Grant. Grant Hill of Christian latener and and that's where I learned to hate them.

Really Christian latener's what we're talking about. Pre Christian latener. Did people hate Duke like that? It was JJ Reddick Christian latener. Gene will jahoski.

Which is the slapping the court. Steve excuse me. Yeah. Gene was the S.B. I'm glad.

Yeah. I didn't hate this Duke team all that much. I can't really put my finger on why exactly. But perhaps it's because they're lacking the annoying white guy. I just love that.

We really showed Duke a lesson with those kids from Connecticut. That's a good point. All those stores. Have you ever been to stores? Sadly.

Yeah. Like Tony explain what stores is like because people think Connecticut. And they, oh yeah. I think Greenwich. Crunchy club.

Yeah. It's like not Greenwich. Sweaters around your shoulder and let's go play some tennis. And that's not what stores is like. I love, you know, the state of Connecticut had a great time there.

When you get to heart for you hear heart for you. Like, oh, wow, and then you get through like, oh, wow. And the stores? Not much better.

Do you know how hateable you have to be as a franchise for people to like that Dan Hurley

want? Yes. That's a good point. I was so excited to watch Dan Hurley have to react to Duke's whistle. And that delivery immediately.

I saw a video of him going head to head. Not, not figure. Someone helped me out with that word. It was, uh, yeah, it was really, it was, it was an escrow Sunday. So I don't want to venture too deep into that word.

But yeah, he went head to head with an official.

I never seen that before.

He was pushing his forehead into the stripes forehead.

Kind of like telling him, like, where's that Duke whistle right now?

Dan Hurley was overjoyed. And he's done enough winning recently that I don't believe too many people outside of stores and Connecticut are very happy for him. Locally here, the marlins have started 3 and 0. And they've got a chance to start 6 and 0 because they are starting

with two of the worst teams I've ever seen for the last two years. I'm, you know, he's right. I'm, I'm not trying to diminish the marlins best start in 17 years. The way they won yesterday was cool and exciting and they haven't started. They've only started 3 and 0 three times in their history.

They've won two championships. They've only started 3 and 0 three times in their history. And the last time they did it was 2,000 or not. So doing it against anybody matters. But now they have the white talks.

And I'm not kidding you when I say the white talks two years ago. And Colorado last year are two of the worst baseball teams I've ever seen. They've got them at home. They have a chance to start 6 and 0 because those are terrible teams.

The white sucks lost all three games this weekend.

Correct? They gave up like 8 runs yesterday in the eighth inning to lose. Yeah, but they got that Japanese guy though, damn. Moona Takam, Murakami, he's a stud. He's at a homer and all three games.

But they're going to waste his career because the white socks are a disaster. Marlins probably going to start with two series wins. Might be 5 and 1 might be 6 and 0. And then they head to the Yankees in New York. That would be a fun little weekend series.

Like deep into the season like guys, we're going to have NL teams play AL teams.

Now it's just like you know, you're third series of the year.

You play the Yankees? Yeah, Yankees starting in San Francisco was a little odd. Jeremy, I don't know before at the point, yeah, with Marlins where we can just start counting games as dubs. But it was a really exciting weekend. And yeah, they've had a friendly schedule here.

But especially when it comes to you forecasting wins, given what we saw yesterday from the Miami heat. I'm not sure we can say what. I really don't know what you're talking about. We'll get to the end in a second.

And we will talk about that loss. That game was 79 75 at the half. It wasn't that long ago that he were playing the nicks in games that that was the final score in play of games. 79 75 in overtime. That was the score yesterday at the half.

But I want to talk about what Owen Cassie did yesterday because the Marlins ended up. It's crazy. Superstar just I want to talk about what he did to end the game because he did. He does a walk off home or I know all of his nicknames because because Tommy, Tommy Hutton gave me all of his nicknames and trying to search for the emotion of talking about what the walk off sounded like.

But let's go through some let's go through some calls here from an answers in both languages. Talking about how that game ended with a walk off home or that nobody. They had nobody on base. They got a double because Sonoma ends up hitting a ball in the gap and the left fielder takes a bad track on it and then they get a home run to end the game. But let's hear some of these calls.

He's trying to salvage the series. Casey hits it in here. Casey didn't get right. We're going home. The rest of that you'll hear them go.

Make sure the big Canadian big red. I didn't see an OG as he had ginger. Does he classify? Oh no. Yeah.

He's a ginger. Okay. Max Meyer, half ginger. Interesting.

Casey might be the second greatest left-handed hitting ginger of all time behind Freddy Freeman.

Wanna pitch Casey launches high in the air at the right. You can't make this out. The maple master secures the sweep. And for the first time since 2009 the Portland starting here 3 and 0.

How do you guys feel about the maple masher as a nickname?

Oh, that's a good one, Dan. I don't think that the group look at a means face does. You don't like maple masher. It means face give off to you that he thinks that's a good nickname. It's a placeholder.

Like I like it as like, okay, this will do for now until he finds something better. Big Canadian terrible. How do you like big red? My daughter said baby ginger. He's giant.

I know. She called him. So that's what I'm calling. But why baby ginger? Because he's a young Katie just came up.

Also, it's a child that came up with it. Oh, that's terrible. There's something about college whoops this time of year where you tell yourself you're just going to casually watch one game. And suddenly your entire night is gone. That happened to me the other night.

I was planning to say home and keep a game on in the background. Maybe pretend I wasn't checking scores every five minutes.

Then a text comes in.

We've got multiple screens set up.

That's how they catch ya.

So I said, yeah, I grabbed a pack of Miller light on the way.

A little while later. Nobody's casually watching anything. Somebody's yelling because their bracket is already cooked. Somebody else suddenly cares deeply about a school. Then thought about it in 10 years.

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You know that energy shift when the game gets good. And everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet. Oh, absolutely Mike. Yeah, you've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well.

That's what it's like when you take your first sip of aquarium.

Oh, delicious. It's the signal that says we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Quarro man. It's at high five.

A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping.

Your hugging people you never met before.

That's a kind of energy that Quarro brings. It's so smooth. So delicious. That's the Quarro effect. Keep it Quarro.

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You've been at the same level of the game. I don't want to get too serious here with something that people really have fun with. But to have as the greatest form of Hispanic representation anywhere, not in sports media, but anywhere on national television,

be Jimmy Kimmel sidekick. Do you hear what he means? That's not the height of Smith. That's certainly on late night. Mario Lopez exists there.

We live in the world with Mario Lopez.

Do we not have a month's worth of Super Bowl halftime discourse?

I think Guillermo is moving the needle the same way. And he has been on the show 27 times. What about domino? I'm talking about daily television show. Again, network television.

The stuff we were talking about with dukes of hazard.

Being on one out of three American televisions at one point.

Network television still matters. I know we're trying to eradicate it. But it hasn't given up. It has not given up. It's strength, just yet.

One more dukes of hazard reference for the rest of the year. So let's be looking at this. That is not my voice. That is your voice talking to me. Tell me what to do.

I will be happy to let the intermonologue speak for me. Listen, it starts representing my thoughts instead of yours. Like if you, if you stop talking to me. I'm not going to stop talking to you. I'll stop talking to you.

I'll stop talking to you. I don't want to argue with my intermonologue when it's not behaving as my intermonologue. That dance on the street court right now. Just having an argument by himself. The intermonologue voice has to be my secret thoughts.

Not you speaking for the audience. That's the word of it. That's not what it is. The intermonologue is my private doubts and thoughts. That is not just you saying whatever you want.

About dukes of hazard. Telling me I've got a rule as to how many more times I can refer into the rest of the year. That's not my voice. I can refer to as much as I want.

It's the first television to ever want.

I'm not out. You don't decide this.

How do we let a dukes of hazard as a topic for today?

You'd be easy. It's because Duke lost. Is that why? That's why. You saw Duke lost the rule.

Remember that show how quaint. What a hazard that was to let that guy shoot that through it. It's a writer. Duke hazard. It's going to be a first egg.

Like bottom third. It is now. The Miami heat have been playing a bad defense for a couple of weeks when they haven't played bad defense in years. And I want to ask you guys a serious question about this. Did they break bam by making him play that way?

Like if we're load managing everybody and we're making everybody be careful with their bodies.

And he misses a game when he never missed a game for his calves and they have limits.

I mean, you know this, right? This is a bit of a science. There are reasons that nobody plays 48 minutes a game unless it's in the playoffs. And there are reasons that nobody plays an entire second half. It's because the human bodies limits make it so that they've deduced and basketball.

That there are diminishing returns when somebody gets so tired that they're playing all the time. So we'll never again have will chamberlain's number of playing all the minutes in a game. But I'm serious when I ask there is no explicable reason that the Miami heat would suddenly be bad at defense for the first time in 15 years. And the last two weeks they have been as bad at defenses, all the teams that are trying not to win that are purposely tanking. I wish I try to just take out there.

But you remember how like Bobby Abreus production was never the same after that home run Derby.

Because he just fell in love with swinging for the fences. I thought to myself, I'm like, this is so random for bam to be this guy. Number two in a single game. And he's like, his whole thing is unselfish basketball. I was wondering if him going for 83 would mess with him any kind of tiny bit.

And it's as good a theory as I guess any right now is that, you know, he kind of maxed out right there. And it's taken him a while to get back to that rhythm.

The previous theory is always well Tyler Heroes back and they're hunting him.

And when he's on the court, they tend to be worse at a defense. I get that too, but you look at the at the box core, somebody named Kobe Brown had 18 points. And somebody named Micah Potter, you're messing with me. He crushed them in the first title. He made everything.

And he had nothing to do with Tyler Hero because he six 11. That game was 79 75 at the half. Indiana, their demise has been precipitous. Do they, do they have the most injury minutes logged or the injury, what games lost to injury of anybody in the sport to go from the final two is bad.

To go from the finals two is bad as they are. I mean, you have to chalk that up to injury. Yeah, you know, it's it's what it's not just that Hal Burton is out for the year. They started the year. Everybody's heard. Nim Hart, McConnell, Siakum.

They were all out. And that really laid the brown work for what could have been a season. Hey, we're going to scrap. We're going to fight to guys. There's nothing left here.

The crazy thing is, yeah, I think they're number one. I know Oklahoma City's up there too. Believe it or not. The best team in the league is has wouldn't been one of the most injured teams this year. Paces should be fine, though.

Like they're what they did at the deadline.

It kind of reminds me of like, remember that your David Robinson got heard

and just the spurs were terrible and ended up with some dunk in. Yeah. And then they just went on their 20 year run.

I think the Pacers were going for a long time.

Then they fired Bob Hill was a really good coach. They were losing because they were bad. Well, let's get Bob Hill out there.

And then their general manager became the coach.

Remember his name? What was his name? Something pop of it. Greg, I think. Greg, pop of it.

Charlotte got exposed a little bit over the weekend. I would say when Boston goes in there without jail. That was without jail and brown, right? Boston goes in there and smokes them. And also the 76ers went in there at something resembling full health.

And also beat Charlotte. I would say that nobody in the playoffs wants to see Charlotte or Atlanta.

But you always want to see.

You're messing with me. Are you guys doing a thing? No. I was like 16 and two. Make it a name.

Red hot at land. The Hornets look again. I'm going to, I know it sounds tried and overdone. But again, I will point out. Look at their roster.

Tell me who their comes with. Sage wisdom and clutch playmaking in a playoff situation. Notable. They're a bunch of children. And it's, they're fun and they're exciting.

And man, I can't wait to see where this goes. But they're going to go with their playoffs. And they're going to play a team. Either either the Pissons or the Celtics or the Nicks. And they're going to find out like, oh, wow, there's another level of basketball.

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They're going to play a team. They have three players that can match their three players. You've got one that can play with their three guys.

How do you match a guy who's a generational player?

We're trying to get to those guys. They have that guy who's a unicorn. What I'm saying to you guys is, do you agree with that assessment? If you agree with that assessment, then your rolefully painfully behind in a way that can't be overcome.

So let me put it this way. If Cephan Castle played in Miami, he would be the what player for them. Best second bet. Where would he rank?

The best for the second best depending on how you want to be the best.

He wouldn't be the best. He'd be the second best. He's of Tony. We're both. We're both Castle guys.

Both Castle guys. Well, and he's got it. That's a good system for him. It's very Miami-like. But when I see what happened with Struse and Gabe Vincent.

And I, and furthermore, when I see where Bam and Tyler hero were drafted and what they became. And that this guy was drafted top five. Not top, not top 15, top five. Like he's he's he's a more skilled player based on the value of how they do.

How all the teams could've selected anyone they wanted and Castle is somebody who was viewed as somebody more valuable as a skill set than both Bam and Tyler hero. Again, I would say that if he came to the heat, he would not be their best player. Neither would Darren Fox. Neither would anyone on the spurs roster, not named Victor Ovin, yeah.

He's only guys like, oh, yeah.

He's clearly better.

So you can't tell me, oh, the heat need three players. If we're saying, hey, if you've given me someone better than Bam, so Bam doesn't have to be your number one. You're already in a good position. Then Jimmy Butler had them in copper finals every other year.

It's not overly complicated what's happening in the Miami heat. We saw, even though they made it to the finals twice. To win a championship, they needed a player better than Jimmy Butler. When Jimmy Butler was on the roster with Bam on a bio. So they need to add a Jimmy Butler and to player that's better than Jimmy Butler

to get to the places that this franchise always claims it wants to go to.

I think if in Denver, man, I don't know how good of a player you had to add

because of Yokech. But I wonder if Tyler hero was the current Tyler hero back then. Would that have made a difference? Maybe maybe maybe that series would be as long as it was. Same thing in the bubble.

If those guys were healthy, I won't even say it. He'd give me a different version of give me healthy guys. And I would have given them a chance. And that's one of the examples then where he like, hey, we're not as talented as them. But maybe our coaching can close that gap.

The bubble was interesting because it's the best Anthony Davis has ever shot in his life. Like the reason the Miami heat lost that series beyond not having go and jogging, jogging, bam out of bio available is that it was Anthony Davis shooting like 40% from three that entire bubble. But it was 95%.

Don't forget about Jay Crowder though. Jay Crowder was amazing. Miami was just top to bottom deeper too. Look, it's the same thing. They're not good enough.

This is usually, I get jealous hearing you talk about Charlotte and Atlanta because this is usually the point in the calendar where he fans start talking about the heat that way. The rounding in a form, you don't want to play this team coming out of the plan. They're going to do it again. And they're not in that conversation right now.

They seem like they got a long way to go. The funny part about this roster versus years past is this is like a really young roster. And they actually have more upside talent than they've had in several seasons.

The problem is is that upside talent is young and very inconsistent.

Clawware at Casper's Yarkachonis are really talented young kids who were just first round picks. But Clawware from one game to the next is an entirely different player. His impact defensively and offensively is entirely different from one night to the next. You have Pelalars in playing those minutes because he's an experienced guy who played several

years in college and doesn't make mistakes. But Norman Powell is an overachiever, right? An overachiever who's an all star this year in part because of what the first 15 games were for this team when they were catching teams off guard offensively. And now him and Tyler really equal one all star because each of them are in

and out of the lineup and they're not all stars when they're on the floor together. So you have a team that is more talented and younger than it's been in years past. But their inconsistency particularly defensively becomes the paramount issue. I know this would have taken a lot of guts and a lot of cool honeys.

But why didn't they try and move Powell at the deadline knowing that they had max value on him?

And then on the back side it's like, what are you going to do to try it? You're already got Tyler. You can't keep Powell knowing that they're the same guy. Why not maximize value there? It was a transition year.

I mean, the reality is this team.

No, this team started hotter and gave people hope off the top and norm Powell's a free agent. You look at he's a free agent and you go in the next season where you have Norman Powell's a free agent that you say get something a sign in trade is a possibility with Norman Powell to get him somewhere else and get you either assets or another player that is strong where you're moving for a player that makes more sense with your roster.

You'll have hero on an expiring contract. If Andrew Wiggins opts in, which you expect at $30 million, he's an expiring contract. The whole narrative going into this season was hold on for a year because this upcoming offseason, you'll have more assets than you've ever had in terms of draft picks over the last 15 years. And you'll have more cap flexibility.

It's just the disappointment of that seven game win streak. People like me getting all hyped up and then now you've seen it come crashing. Even that even without like this big picture planning, norm Powell is an impending free agent not quite as like asset heavy a return because they don't look what if you leave, right?

So you don't think you can get a first round pick for him as a final piece somewhere so that you can strengthen your offseason package because you have more picks. We were told that they would that Janis would stay in Milwaukee because Miami would have more to offer this offseason. You don't believe that they could have lured a number one for an all star.

>> What does being an all star have if that can't get you a first round pick

for an all star for a contender looking for scoring and a final piece?

>> I mean, like this is a hard part. When I worked in a front office, we didn't care about stuff like that. We cared about the player. We evaluated the player. What does he do?

How does he help us? What needs does he address of ours? Whether he was an all star or not, that's for the press conference.

Maybe that's the cell to your owner who's it.

So I remember when we traded Boris deon Roger Bell for Jason Richardson and Jared

Dudley and we had to sell him on Jared Dudley.

We're like, this guy's going to help us.

I don't know because he just never heard of Jared Dudley.

So he just like, I don't know. But like the thing that pushed the deal over the finish line for us was and Jason Richardson is a dunk contest champion. And for our owners, like, oh, so that means that party. Like I said, this guy's a dunk contest.

That was all it was about. But like in terms of those accolades, that's meaning something to us. >> It doesn't mean it. >> I mean, though, there is a slight difference between dunk champion and all star. But it's all just rhetoric, right?

And let's just talk about someone who goes to the all star game every year. Okay, to me, that's an all star. Let's just talk about someone's all NBA every year.

Okay, that's one of the best words.

But if we talk about someone who had a great year, and a great year last year too, probably should've been all star last year. But again, if I'm a team that's acquiring norm power, I'm acquiring him for all the basketball reasons. And for the needs that he addresses of mine,

not because it will, let's see his run. Ooh, his basketball references. >> He all star.

>> I think he's an all star the way that Jamal McGlorr was an all star.

>> Okay. >> Do that. >> No, do that. >> Oh, you acquire him. You're like, this guy was an all star.

>> That's a respectful. >> That's a respectful time, McGlorr. >> To dance point about getting a piece, if you're a team, if you're a team that's a piece away and trying to make a train,

try to get a first run pick.

We saw the thunder trade a first for Jared McCain. And you're going to tell me norm power isn't worth more than Jared McCain. >> It's a different thing. >> You're looking at a young player that is going to continue to grow. You're looking at norm and power at 32 years old.

If you, if you check out all the roasters of the teams that are contenders, trading a first round pick when you're not Oklahoma City, who has an over-abundance of picks who's trading for a young player, he's not a guy that most of those teams actually needed, and not in the East.

And if you look at the West, shooting guard, there are so many scores. >> Yeah, it's more than that. It's like Oklahoma City has a plethora of picks. So given up picks was a big thing tomorrow. They have a salary crunch that's coming because all those guys got paid.

Jared McCain's on a rookie deal. So he's not only a young, like, oh, he's young, he can continue to get better. He's on a rookie deal. We've got him for two more years at a very reasonable price. Norm Powell is looking to get paid.

This all season. >> Mike Ryan, please find for me, Jamal McGloor's best season. >> All star season. >> What did he average 14 points of game?

>> That's not there. >> They're not going to invoke that game. >> There were no centers available that season. And you just did norm Powell dirty by mentioning Jamal McGloor. >> Go and Jamal McGloor dirty.

>> What give me that all star season that Jamal McGloor had.

What kind of point totals was he putting up that season?

>> 13.6 points for game and 10.3 rebound. >> Boy, you average is a double double. >> What you're doing is wrong. >> The big cat. >> You guys are all disrespectful right now.

But there's no one more disrespectful in the room that Dan Levitard because you just reminded me. You once called demolition man. Jamal McGloor. >> Yeah.

>> And I will have action movies. >> I will never forget. >> Of action movies. >> Demolition man put up 14 points and 12 rebounds. >> All in that one season, Jamal McGloor.

Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Should Jamal McGloor's nickname have been the medium cat.

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