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The Big Suey: The 'For The Love Of The Game' Security Guard (feat. Jessica Smetana)

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"For the fans of high school basketball in the mid-20th century in Indiana..." Jess stops by to inform the crew about the NCAA Women's Tournament, break down the Will Wade hire by LSU, explain why...

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- Welcome to the Big Suri! - Presented by draft Kings. - Why are you listening to this show? - The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan-Levitard podcast.

- Sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.

- In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. - I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

- I've done it. - And now, here's the marching men to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. - This episode of the Dan-Levitard show is presented by draft Kings.

- draft Kings. - The crown is yours. - Sweet 16 action last night.

- First two games were awesome.

I hated that those, 'cause the last two games at the end of the night weren't great. Arizona crushed Arkansas on Illinois beat Houston. But the first two games, Purdue and Texas awesome. Iowa and Nebraska, awesome.

Like both at the same time. I don't know if you guys know the way it works. I can't have sound on multiple TVs at once. It'd be really confusing. So I can only have sound on one of the games.

And I chose for it to be Purdue and Texas. And then I'm watching, you know, keep in track of Iowa and Nebraska on the other TV, but that's on mute. - You know about that multi-view?

- Yep, but then you can use - You can use a bunch of back and forth to keep you multi-bounds. - Yeah, you know what? - He's like multiple sounds on.

I have to drive a person and say. - Why did you just switch like you just toggle the screen? - Does it happen with you guys with my YouTube TV? It takes forever for the sound to go over. I have two games going, if I go over to the right one,

it doesn't instantly go. - You know about that good internet? - Is that what it is? It takes sometimes like 30 seconds for the sound switch. I'm telling you, maybe it's just my setup.

My internet's fine in general, I think. But can I tell you? - I think it's about the heat game. Jessica Santana joining us of course. Hello, Jessica.

- Good morning. - Hello, good morning. - At the heat game, I was at the heat game last week and they do, you know, those trivia or something in timeouts or whatever.

And they had a kid, I don't know. He looked at me like 18, all right. And it's, what sound is this? And they play the sound of dial-up internet.

The kid heard a noise he'd never heard before.

He had no clue what the sound was. I mean, like we're at that point, we're dial-up.

It was so, that's how you remember when you would use dial-up.

Just you remember, I don't know, maybe you're too young, even Jess. But you would use dial-up and then it is a compliment. You would use dial-up and then you would lose the signal because your mom would like pick up the phone downstairs

because you want to make a phone call. Mom, I was in the middle of downloading something. - Wow, you didn't have a business line. - Right? - Oh, you have to have the business line.

You would always get interrupted by your parents picking up the phone. Anyway, Jess, were you into the games last night? - I was very into the games last night, but I have a question because I have the same scheduling issue

as you do, and this is the same thing tonight. There's multiple games on out the same time. But women's NCAA tournament today, starting at 230, we have staggered start time. So I can watch all the games back to back to back.

Why do the men have all their games on at prime time? Or 10 PM is like, I don't understand this prime time for the West Coast, but I mean, there's just no way I'm staying up to midnight to watch Houston shoot 28% from the field.

- No, that's not.

- And like the first game tonight's St. John's in Duke,

which is gonna be really great. Alabama Michigan's gonna be great. Anyway, the first game Duke St. John's 710, you gotta have the first game at six. The first game's gotta be six PM.

You're starting until you have four games, Jess. All starting after 7 PM, come on, get a clue. Can I also say, the other day I heard Dusty May was gonna be on the show, I said, oh, that's cool. Lehman has been embedded with the Michigan Basketball team,

this whole year working on a documentary series about the road to March madness. And I said, I'll stay tuned for that. Maybe there's a sound bite that I can send to Lehman that they can put in the camera.

- Took away, Mo. - Well, I was wrong. I was wrong about that. - I gave you plenty of sound bites there. It's a problem.

(laughing) Most enjoyable interview he's had in a while, he told us. - He was into it. - He was asking questions along the ride. - He loved it.

- I don't know if it's gonna make the final cut. - Did you guys see this? So will Wade, all right, will Wade is now the... He's once again, once again, the head coach at LSU,

like that seems pretty rare that that happens, right?

- Yeah, this is very rare. I saw someone on Twitter accused LSU of building the Avengers of asshole coaches. - Yeah, and tell everybody who you're referencing, of course. - Well, Lynn Kiffin is there.

I don't know if you saw that, and what Wade has his own reputation. - I cannot do it. - Oh, Kim, don't you dare say a bad thing about him. - We love her, we love her, we love her, we love him.

- Kim, Kim. - Yes, she is.

- She is saint.

- Yes, you, you, you try to light.

- You know what you're talking about? - I don't know what you're talking about. - Hey, I didn't even consider she was one of them.

One thing you need to know about me, Zaz.

- I'm a big Kim-molky guy. - All right, all right, I don't know what it is. - Baby's about that. - I don't know. - I don't know what it is. - Thank you, buddy, all right, yeah, big Kim-molky.

- Taking a 10-pm tip-offs, they're playing tonight against Duke. That's gonna be a really fun game. A lot of story lines in that one. - Yeah, that one's a very exciting game in the women's tournament. - So, Will Wade has left NC State.

NC State lost in the first four to Texas. Who lost last night, really fun game against Purdue. We can get to the games in a moment here. But Will Wade becomes, again, the LSU head coach. He signed, I think, a six-year deal with NC State last year.

This was the first year of his deal.

But here's what happened, all right.

So, let's go back, I think this is about two weeks ago. When there are, you know, the LSU job is opening up and, you know, the rumors are starting to fly. So as any good reporter would do, they would ask Will Wade about the potential

of becoming the LSU head coach once again. You're this. - A lot of talk with you and potential position at LSU. You just want to see if anybody from that campus reach out to you and just give you an opportunity to speak on that.

- No, it's the job open there, huh? No, so why would, I'm not, listen, maybe very clear. I'm excited at NC State. I was hired at NC State to do a job. This wasn't gonna take one year.

I've already met with our administration about next year and some of the changes that we need to make and some of the things that we need to do to put this program where it deserves long term. So, I'm not on social media.

I'm not in the gossip. I'm not into any of that sort of stuff. But look, we're gonna win and we're gonna win big at NC State. - For me, Jess, it's one thing to do the whole line thing. All right, and it's another thing to try

and make the reporter feel like an asshole. And that's what he did there. He was right, though, the job wasn't open. And it's unclear if the job ever was open because they seemed to hire him before they fired

their coach that had signed a seven year deal. What was it three years ago? Because of the amount of turmoil that the program was in because of the recruiting violations

from Will Wait's first tenure.

So, I feel like there's like a small domino, big domino thing happening here with like small domino, Brian Kelly gets embarrassed on national television against Texas A&M. And then like big domino Will Wait's back at LSU.

Because of all of the things I had to happen in the athletic department for this to come back around. But I'm with you, Zaz. Very, just kind of bratty way to answer that question. And then ultimately, he looks like a liar.

I think Boe Corgan, the NC State athletic director

would tell you that he said he felt like he was lied to and he wants to come misery with the fans and he's disappointed. And then my last final thing on this is the statement that he put out was a very graphic design

as my passion statement. It was just very ugly. What are we doing? Like, why did you do it in red? Why did you make NC State colors?

Like, did the NC State designers, they're like, yeah, we're not gonna make one for you. So you gotta make one yourself. He's a cook, I'll make it look like it's an NC State thing. It was very ugly.

I did not like it. All right, so as you guys go and leave, sorry. Why I'm just curious where you come down on this. If you, would you rather be Will Wade or Wade Will? I think Wade Will is better.

And if you're William Wade, I think you go Billy Wade over Wade Will Wade, I'll say you. Are you Wade William? No? Or are you just Will?

Wade Will. No, Will.

I think really, like if you're Will Wade,

I think the better option is Billy Wade. I think like all of the derivations of William Billy is the coolest. In fact, I am a William. I'm William David.

And but I named him Billy. I didn't name him William. I named him Billy. It just 'cause like once you get to those 10 years, then you want, you feel like I'm gonna be more grown up.

And so you go like, let's lose the y, 'cause that's a little boy and then I'm Bill. But then if you're Bill, damn a check for the, that's Squaresville, you're Billy, damn a check. As a grown up, you're cool.

And if you're Billy Wade, you're cooler. Then that dork, we just saw it monishing, the nice reporter that will Wade. Says everything about, you could see it coming from a mile away.

Why? 'Cause his name is Will. What kind of hardo goes with Will over Billy? So like Jessica alluded to, the NC State AD is Buch Horgon.

And here he is yesterday, giving his side of the events that took place leading up to Will Wade leaving. - Asked him what he needed, right? What do we need to be competitive from there

As far as the resignation letter, it was an email, right,

that we received from his agent

and talking with his agent. - Don't you need not reach out to you to write? - Not from that standpoint. - There's a lot of people, particularly the ones that I know that subsidize the success and athletics,

the field disappointed, maybe to feel like they were lied to. How do you speak to them and to regards to what you're gonna do in the future? And to sort of say, hey, you stick to the correct statement, I think I would commiserate with them

in terms of feeling lied to, right? And let them know that it's not something that I didn't know anything about. And you know, it surprised us they are about what's going on, but reassured them that we're gonna find a coach

that wants to be at NC State. - An email from the agent to the AD. That's Bush, just that's Bush. - Yeah, I mean, and also the ugly graphic design is my passion statement.

I think that's more Bush-like, but I mean, I don't know,

there's a lot of iron for Will Wade and LSU and all this stuff. I guess my question is, I don't really, I don't know, I don't watch a lot of LSU men's basketball to begin with, but what's his record, is his record that good that it's worth doing all of this weird public,

just kind of shadyness, he's not like a coach K record, right? It's very, I don't know, it's weird.

- Like he was let go at LSU the first time

under scandal, right? - Yeah, I think, well, like, was there an FBI probe involved and there was a wire cap, yeah. - But now it's like, okay, well, you can't pay, please, but he's well for the modern era is just highlights.

- A lot of the public's experience with him. - A lot of the things that were held against him as previous go around were like, hey, you know what'd be great? Today, that guy that we fired. - Hey, Roy buddy, you know that energy shift

when the game gets good and everybody altogether, in Unison knows to stand up on their feet. - Oh, absolutely, Mike. - Yeah, you've been at many big time sporting events, you know that moment quite well.

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- Darn LeBotard. - I don't think I ever got that many roses in my whole life. - Two guts. - Certainly not from your lovely grandfather, God may have so rest in peace.

- This is the Darn LeBotard show with this two guts. (upbeat music) Anyway, the game's last night though, Purdue beats Texas in a really close one. Iowa beats Nebraska, also in a close one.

Did you see, so, what was it, Nebraska? Nebraska's trailing Iowa by three with a little more than a minute remaining. Iowa has the basketball, Mike. Fred Hoyberg and employees.

They only had four damn boys on the floor. (laughing) - That's coaching, says. - And it resulted in a layup which resulted in an actual three-point play, came over.

Had he only had four players on the floor in that spot. - I don't have a time out there. - Ever heard of a team only having the one fewer player than needed on the field or on the court in a pivotal point

In a game before.

So I truly can't relate. I mean, these Nebraska fans must feel terrible. - Well, so Fred Hoyberg, predictably, was him and his team were asked about it post game. For about 58 seconds left, did that beballed a viral

for the bucket? I did there were four players on the court, and you say what happened. - Obviously, first I had one minor in that. You know, put that one on me.

It was a miscommunication and, you know, I'm gonna head coach, put that one on me. The foreman on the court, on that final inbound. Did there's some confusion online about if that's the rules. You're supposed to have five guys on the court.

We're deep where the official's supposed to hold the ball before the ball was Pennsylvania.

- That's a good question Rob, and I've never been in a situation

like that. I know they always count to make sure there's not six. I don't know the rule on that with four, but yeah. I mean, again, it was a miscommunication and, you know, unfortunately, it, it happened.

But that, you know, as far as the rule, I've never been a party, anything like that. So. - I just wanted to make the point that the point out this spectacular irony or coincidence or whatever it is.

The coach Norman Dale did, in fact, only put four guys out on the floor and said, "My team's on the floor famously "for high school basketball fans from the mid-20th century "and Indiana. "My team's on the floor, his team's name, the Huskers.

"Look at Freddy Hoyberg doing it with the Huskers "in the 21st century. "How great is that?" - You know, it's interesting that you say that

because, and good on Fred Hoyberg for taking full blame

as you should obviously, but it's interesting that you say that

because obviously the officials, if you have six on the floor, they're like, it's gonna be a technical foul, but if you have four on the floor, like in Hoosiers, the referee says, you need a fifth. Like the referee isn't supposed to actually allow the ball

to be inbound if you don't have your team yet on the floor and then the coach acknowledges, "Okay, this is what I want. "My team is on the floor." That's actually like, you are supposed to get that discretion from the referee.

And so last night, the referee's clearly, we're not counting the players on the floor. It's again, it's Hoyberg's responsibility, but normally the referee would say, "Coach, you need five guys."

- Is it though? The solicitists' referees are supposed to step in and be like, "Hey, trying to do your solid here, coach, "you can throw another guy there's supposed to count." But not in the NFL, not in football games.

- You don't do that when you only have 10 guys out there. - Yep, you're right, but in basketball yet. It's normally like, "Hey, you don't inbound the ball yet "because it's coming out of the time out." And maybe the fifth guy is still coming off the bench.

You're waiting for all five guys before you hand them the ball. And clearly the referees, they did not do that. So anyway, really good games last night. Just, you know, Chapel Rona's, 'cause I don't have a clue.

And I feel like you might be in the NFL. - Back here. - I know. - So then, I keep seeing on social media, this, am I even saying the name Rona's? - Yes. - This Chapel Rona is all over my timeline.

I don't have a clue, this person is. - Dave, do you know who Chapel Rona's? - I am aware of her because, for better or worse. I'm pretty sure it's her. It's a her.

I saw a picture on social media in the last couple of weeks

that she had her side, bosom exposed, is that right?

- She does tend to expose the side bosom, yes. As this is a social media controversy for our times, based off of an incident that happened in Brazil last week where Chapel Rona was performing at a festival and she was at--

- Oh, so she's like a pop artist? - We do actually not, I'm sorry. - She genuinely, yes, this is not big. - You genuinely do. - You genuinely do.

She genuinely does. - She's got a very fine night magical. - Pick Pony Club, and she's not in Metallica. - She's not in Metallica. - Yeah, it's like what I like.

- Like what I like. - Like Pony Club. - Do you watch college game days as? - Yeah. - Okay, do you remember when they did the odd to go bit

with Tamil a couple times? - Yeah.

- Okay, she always refers to a Chapel Rona song.

- Yes. - Yeah, I'm trying to find you at your level where you may have encountered. - I know that. - I know that.

- She also has been on SNL twice, I think.

- Okay, go on. - So she's a performer. She's an artist, she's a young woman. She's at her hotel in Brazil. And apparently, according to the soccer star,

Georgineo, his wife, or perhaps girlfriend, I'm not sure if they're married. His wife's daughter, who is the daughter of also Judea, who I found out has seven kids, didn't know that. They were at the same hotel.

And apparently, she walked past Chapel Rona, smiled at her or something like that. And then a big ginormous, burly security guard, who was a part of Chapel Rona's security group,

Went up to her and told her, like, told her off-basically,

and was like, don't do that. And this girl was very rattled and upset. And so, Georgineo, whose wife is a somewhat famous, reality person, posted it on his Instagram story. And then there was a ton of backlash

at Chapel Rona, and people were making memes about how she hates kids. And she wants to kill kids and stuff. So then she posted a video where she was like, I don't know who that security guard is.

I don't hate kids.

I have never done anything like that before.

And I don't even remember seeing this girl or her mom. And I feel bad for them, because that's shitty that that happened to them. And then a lot of people were like, well, this was your security guy, what are you talking about?

And like, Georgineo's Catherine Harding as her name, the mom of the daughter was like,

you should know if a security guard is representing you

at still your fault, and was liking all these comments, bashing Chapel Rona. And then the security guard, who's got a ton of Instagram followers, he must be some sort of like a security guard influencer. I'm not sure.

He posted on his Instagram yesterday, he was not representing Chapel Rona, and he apologized and was like, oh, no one told me to do that. So this is a whole controversy involving a lot of people with a lot of social media followers, and Chapel Rona,

who has now been apparently banned from performing in Rio by the mayor of Rio, who was very ticked off by this whole thing, even though this incident occurred in São Paulo. So the tentacles of this run deeps as it is insane. The best part about the mayor banning her from the performance,

it was his second day as the mayor.

Oh, it's a man about action. He was like elected the day before. He was elected the day before. He became the mayor and was like, perfect win for me, Georgino's upset. Let me defend him and kick Chapel Rona out of here.

- Yeah. - Dave said I follow all the steps. - I have no GD idea. The whole story that's methodical about that life. - What the hell, I haven't heard that. - But you know, John Law, he's of your era, right?

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, my era is none of your business. The point is I didn't, I had no idea of it. I am vaguely aware the Chapel Rona. - You got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. - Yup, yup, yup.

- Is a, I'm aware of her pop-ups prowess. - Yeah, I've children. - The question is-- - I think no about all this stuff with Down in Brazil and then heard a single note of this.

- The question is, is she a brat who wanted to tell off this kid and is now using the bodyguard as the fall guy. And also worth noting, she has had a lot of incidents with paparazzi, she does not like being a famous person

basically, like she wants privacy and obviously it's not

afforded to her most of the time, which understandable. But she's gotten in little dustups before.

But the question is, did she use this bodyguard as a fall guy?

She actually did tell him, like, hey, go yell at this little, you know, 12 year old girl, or was this just a completeness understanding he acted of his own accord? - Well, can you just go back to this because I can really render a verdict until I understand what the exchange was?

What is the alleged incident that the chapel loan said to a security guard or to the child directly? Don't look at me, don't make eye contact with me? - I, okay, I need now I need to pull up. He posted a long Instagram story.

And now I want to pull it up and read it to you directly. So give me a second because the allegation was that he basically came over when they were having breakfast and quote unquote with speaking in an extremely aggressive manner to both my wife and my daughter saying she shouldn't allow my daughter

to quote disrespect or quote harass other people. Honestly, I don't know what point simply walking past a table and looking to see if someone is there can be considered harassment. He even said he would file a complaint against them with the hotel on my 11 year old daughter was sitting there

in tears. My daughter was extremely shaken and cried a lot. So like the, the, the daughter seems like she had a truly like upsetting experience and it was very traumatic for her to be yelled at by the security guard.

So that does not seem to be a question. - I got a daughter, daughter's be crying. - They do. - The thing about this, it's, it's really insane, Dave. And this is, this is where it gets like spicy.

Is that this security guard who took the fall, this security guard who took the fall claim to not be there working on behalf of Chapel Rome. He's saying I wasn't. - Right.

- Chapel's personal security guard. I also wasn't the hotel's security guard. So the question is, who's security guard? - Who's something that's security guard? - Who's security guard?

- Now this was a music festival, right?

So what's he there for one of the other performers?

And, and he was just there at the hotel. And what's interesting too is there is a picture posted of the daughter with Louis Capaldi, another singer who was performing in this festival and so the question becomes,

hmm, was this little girl just running around to every table? Well, there is a celebrity trying to ask to take a picture and as she may be, maybe is this family spoiled and entitled and thinking that they deserve

- You're going out with everyone. - Are they, what I'm saying is look,

No, I'm saying this is what the internet is saying.

What's the question yourself? - Is it just a representation for seating her?

- I think perhaps we should look at the mother

and you're doing it yourself because included in the Instagram story where they called out Chapel Road in the body guard at the end of it in all caps, quote, "Without your fans, you would be nothing

"and to the fans, she does not deserve your affection." So they immediately went on the attack and this is Instagram post, which I feel like, this is where I net out on this, like for the rest of this poor child's life,

she's going to be the girl who was involved in this thing because of her parents, because her parents decided to make it like a public spectacle and go after a super famous pop star, whether or not you liked the pop star or not.

I'm not like a huge chapel room fit by any means. I'm just trying to look at this objectively.

And now this little girl's always going to be remembered

as little girl who was sad because Chapel Road's bodyguard may have been mean to her or some other random bodyguard was. And I feel like the parents putting the little girl on blast and putting her picture out there and being like, look, I'll upset my daughter is kind of weird.

- I love the idea of this guy not being associated with Chapel Road at all and just being a security guard and it's just like when I'm going to slap you in my tent, I see someone who needs security, I have to security.

I like that idea that he's just security guard for wherever he is. Like, who do you think is it's employer then? Like, who paint? - Love of the game, Zach. - He just shows all he didn't want to, but he's like,

I got a security. - Maybe then on the way out, maybe he leaves an invoice on the hotel desk. You know, I did security. - Now you owe me. It's a security just for the side boob.

That's the only part needed for it. - It's custom, those else will be in. - Don't live a part.

- Mr. Mr. Sher, if I may say for a second,

Miami, they were circulating the snap count, the entire game, and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage.

And the only thing I want to see clapping

are them cheeks on this mat in my face, my shirt. All right, so that's one thing. - Two guts. - There are a bunch of cheaters then, and you know who should be cheating?

Mrs. Met, on Mr. Met, and you can watch if you want. - This is the Don't Live a Tarsho with this two guts. (upbeat music) - Jess, speaking of the women's tournament, I want to make sure I get your opinion here

because I saw this a few days ago. You know, last week it will look, with the women's tournament, I'm wholly uninterested in the first couple rounds, because all the games are blowouts.

And, and that's not true. The first round, there are some a lot of blowouts. The second round was awesome. If you didn't pay attention to the second round, you missed out on a lot of really good games.

With the exception of the UConn Syracuse game, which was in prime time,

which that's a whole other things as that I think--

- Well, that's what I want to mention. - Are you about, yeah, like the South Carolina and UConn is one season being on ABC, while the other games are on ESPN and ESPN too, when in their first round games,

they're gonna win by 70 points. Like they're gonna just beat up on these 16 seats. I agree with you, it's, they're not the most competitive games, but there are other really competitive games, like the Iowa Virginia game, which was on ESPN in the middle

of the workday, and it went up going to double over time and was a huge upset in Virginia became the first team to play in the final four in the women's tournament and advance to the second weekend. And those are pretty huge game and a huge upset,

but not as, I mean, not as many people watch it as the, I think the South Carolina game, which was on at 7 o'clock, which was a few hours later. But yes, I know you what you're gonna bring up which is the Syracuse head coach talking about

constantly being seated in the UConn sub-regional, is that right? - Yeah, so like UConn beats Syracuse last weekend. I think the score was 98 to 45, and it's Jessica mentioned like it's on ABC and it's just, it's a total shallacking.

And so here is the Syracuse head coach. This is after the game and like she doesn't think it's fair that they have to play UConn. But we, I thought deserved a little more respect after being in his business for 37 years

and to have to come and be in this particular bracket every freaking year is unacceptable, is wrong. - I mean, Jess, they were the nine seed. They want to game so they're gonna play the one seed the next round.

It's UConn, like I guess she's saying, she's had to play UConn several times.

We all know UConn's like almost always

one of the best teams, like she have a right to be mad, because I don't know, it sounds like it just be a seven seed and then you don't have to play UConn in the second round, you know? - Yeah, she even said like bump us down to a 10 and then we could go to like Greenville or, you know,

or not Greenville, Columbia, Play South Carolina. Like she was saying, it was a much longer quote than that,

She was saying like she feels like it's personal

that Syracuse is constantly put in the same group as UConn and that in years where Syracuse has a potential

to be good enough to win a second round game.

They're going up against this juggernaut in UConn every year and it's not fair. And so according to ESPN, five of the last seven NCAA tournament appearances that Syracuse has had have been versus UConn

in the second round, three of them have been on UConn home court. So that is quite a significant amount and part of the reason is travel because it's cheaper for Syracuse to rent a bus and drive to, you know, stores

than it would be to fly them to LA to play UCLA or whatever.

So I think she's saying like we've had this exact same matchup

so many times, it's lazy bracketing, put us in a different group because we're gonna lose this game every time we don't have, you know, what, let's put it all into that game a second round of UConn, like everyone's going to. Yeah, but like that's possibly, that's certainly this year

and UConn is really, really good and it's gonna be difficult for any team to beat them, but I think she's saying like, you know,

let us have a different matchup basically.

Like it's probably even difficult for her to get fans to come to this game even though it is close by because it's like, okay, well it's UConn and they're gonna lose in the second round whereas like she's saying she's not even really getting a chance

to play someone different. She also was the coach at Buffalo before this where they played in the UConn subregional number of times. So I'm just saying like, I think, you know, it probably wasn't the time in the place for her to do this

'cause it sounds like, you know, okay, skill issue, be better than like, try to be good enough to beat UConn, you know, your head coach at Syracuse that seems like something that you shouldn't be more concerned with. But I do think there is a point there with just how the brackets

are made and like just repeatedly giving people the same matchups year in and year out 'cause five of the last seven is pretty, that's a pretty, you know, large proportion of your tournament appearances that are ending up playing as UConn and according to Justice Collins on Twitter

since 2017, UConn has sent Syracuse home four times in the second round and then she said, I looked at our other other top teams early on the repeat knockout, the most is twice. Plus she played UConn when she was at Buffalo in 2019.

So other teams are not playing the same team as many times as Syracuse has played UConn. I think that's what she was upset with.

And then I think the ESPN article I read Princeton was also,

like, you know, seated. I think they were the overall 34 and Syracuse was the same. - Yeah, that's been happening. - No, we got to get on that. Sorry about that, chess, but I guess it all boils down to,

I don't think it's so much personal as it is regional. - It's money. - It's like all these teams that have played UConn a bunch are all in the Northeast. - Yeah, it's money.

It's, I mean, and you've got to remember, you know, it was first couple weeks, they play at home. There's finances involved there. chess, sorry, we lost your connection, but make sure you check chess out.

Every week, Notre Dame podcast, the Echo, with Mike Golug Jr, great job, Jess, we appreciate you. Let's do some updating of our brackets. You have the Midwest region. We have some round of 32 results.

We need to make sure we catch up on here, guys, all right? Number five, Texas Tech, they were represented by this.

Jalen Brunson looks like the Valle driver who lost your keys.

- It's a good team we lost there. - So they are done and advancing, they're playing tonight. They lost two number four Alabama represented by Paul Feinbaum, looks like the Major D at a fancy restaurant. - All right, that's a good one, that's a good one.

- In the East region, number seven UCLA, they are done, they were represented by. - Cal Raleigh looks like a motorcycle highway patrol officer. - Thought that was under seated in this tournament. - And they're playing tonight, but they lost last weekend,

two number two, UConn represented by. Adam Silver looks like a newly open chapstick. - Strong, chapstick around. - All right, there you go. - So tonight, you got St. John's Duke, Alabama,

Michigan, Michigan State, UConn, Tennessee, Iowa State. I'm in, taste that. - Some good games tonight. - Yes. - I wanted to ask Smitana, now I ask you.

- Smitana, were these, listen, I'll, listen, it's a pick spur, would you like to answer the questions as was askin'? - I would like to, what was the question? - Yeah, I mean, that's exactly the point, Dave.

- Yes, Bob Rossi. - What was the question, what was this question? - Let's say you, Dave. - Say it, just say it. - Just say it.

- We park our car, he said he was excited, he said he was excited to watch these games. Wasn't that the one, wasn't that the one? - Yeah, he was excited. - He was excited to hear a question right there.

- It was weird, we never got to the question.

- Oh, excuse me, please, the floor is yours, the floor is yours, who else would we be excusing?

You're the one who came in, of course, I came in,

and now that there was a way we're leading to a question.

All right, please, go ahead.

- Tony, zaz, you hear that question right there?

- It's zaz. - Which game are you most interested in? - It's St. John's Duke, it's St. John's Duke, that's the game's turn. - He's fraud, he's going to the Marlins game,

he's going to be watching the NCAA tournament the whole, the game's a fraud. - Or he's lying about watching St. John's Duke. - He'll be at the domestic beer bar in the center field, wasn't it?

- I got a phone, Tony, I'll meet you there. - Dave, Dave, what's say you? Well, more interesting than what game Tony is going to watch or finds most compelling. Here's my fascinating question for you, it's whimsing.

- Originally for Montana though, but now for me, right? - That's right, that's a reheat, a reheat for you, sir. - Where these not men's basketball matchups, but instead college football matchups, which game would you find most compelling?

- Oh, it is being mentioned in Alabama.

Tennessee, Iowa State, or do you go back to last night? Iowa and Nebraska is pretty juicy. Illinois Houston, sneaky, good, Arkansas and Arizona. Okay, if it's on at late night, you might sit there and watch it.

And Texas Purdue could be a fun one. - Pretty clearly Alabama, Michigan, I think. - Yeah, like I feel like we have to cross off Alabama. - I love the idea you're game, but every matchup you said. - Yeah, not as good as Alabama, Michigan.

- Iowa and Nebraska is pretty good. If I would have taken out, Chris is right.

You have to cross off Michigan, Alabama.

It would be the Citrus Bowl. Maybe Texas Purdue. Yeah, you watch, buddy, do. - I'm a virtual fan. - You haven't heard of Orch.

- You've seen that photo of Orch doing the play action fake before no one knew that like the paint manning stiff neck on the play action fake was her redditary. Until they saw that photo, he looks exactly like it.

- You guys see that Marshall Manning?

Apparently we got a better one. - Literation. - That's Payton's actual kid that really-- - That's too much talking about, right. - What was that photo and it wasn't Orch?

- Yeah, it's actually Payton's kid. - Wow, Marshall Manning. Then it's directly a redditary. - So that's the answer to your question though. It's St. John's Duke.

That's the best game of the night. - St. John's Duke is very juicy. I'm rooting hard for St. John's because, you know, that old roots for Duke. And I like Petino being in the tournament this long.

Like Petino, it's fun watching. - With a team that can't really shoot, it's like, it's a weird team that's like specifically built for the big yeast. It's like they can't really do a lot of things.

They like to muck up the game. Duke has been vulnerable at times. And I want to see the pressure, St. John's gonna play. - It's a team that once won 17 minutes without scoring. - Correct.

- This season. - And Petino threatened to kill himself because they misread the rest. Which is boss-well, obviously, this is a bad one. - I mean, the hype train, if St. John's wins tonight,

Duke is a six and a half point favorite according to draft Kingsport's book. St. John's wins tonight, the hype is going to be at eight. Weaver, pitch, heading into the regional final Sunday. - Does he come in with the white suit?

Oh, white tonight or no? It would be a power move if you did. It feels like the night to do it. It's like you're playing Duke. You look across, you got the Booser twins.

You got a bunch of five star guys. And you look at your team. It's a bunch of rag tag, bunch bad news bears. It comes with a cream suit with a red tie. It means business as what's shirt underneath.

A creamer. - Is there any coach that wears the suit? - No. - Any coach that breaks this new thing of wearing tracks, too. - I feel like McCronan was wearing a suit?

- Was he? - Yeah, that's the answer. - Oh, Dan Hurley tonight, Dan Hurley was a suit. - No, yeah. - Oh, Dan Hurley, is that Bill Murray's kid

that just got that PC job? - Oh, maybe. I know he was in a system with Yukon.

- Yeah, yeah, he just, I think he's getting the B.C. job.

Dave, let's say he works hard. - All right. - I mean, Dave, you're playing Riga Mortis. What's going on? - Hey, I know he's playing Possible here.

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