The Big Suey: The Lament Of The Loser (feat. Fibula)

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“- Was that the best moment of the tournament yesterday?”

Of all of the buzzer beaters, that was the moment, obviously, with the greatest stakes, I would say as well, I was stunned that Duke lost that basketball game. The only time Duke trailed in that game

for the end was being down to nothing. And Connecticut was one for 18 from three and shouldn't have gotten back into that game. But listen to how delirious, Yukon's radio announcers are when Braille and Mullins,

the most unlikely of people to be doing. This shot in this circumstance from nearly half court as Braille and Mullins goes off. - Back to start. Now I head to Kate and Booser and a steel.

Mullins gets it. - It's Karaban, to Mullins long ranked three. Oh, he went in, Mullins delivers. Bedloom, bedloom here. - I mean, what is choking look like?

Because I want to give credit to what Yukon did. They clawed back into a game. They shouldn't have gotten back into. They were down 19. They were down 15.

They were fortunate to be down only 15 at the half. And Mullins is a name for all time now, correct? Like we're putting him in the pantheon as a name that introduced himself to America for all time because he did the thing that sports fans love the most.

It's not just Duke losing. It's Duke choking. What were your thoughts on that final sequence? Because I'm the guy, I mean, all the time who wants to celebrate the victor for the positive things.

But this was the collapse of a bunch of Duke players who should be undefeated this season. I did not recognize Isaiah Evans. That's a great basketball player. Didn't recognize him in this basketball game.

Falling down, just allowing fast break baskets because he was just completely invisible. How does Duke lose that basketball game other than breaking down mentally when all you have to do is make sure.

You break the trap.

“All you have to do is float the ball up in the air,”

just throw it to the other side of the court. Hold it if you want to. Anything but that. Yeah, I think there's a couple of things I've played. Number one is we see the variability of three-point shooting

and as a massive impact on the game. Three-point shot defense. We talk about this all the time. It's not your opponent percentage. Like all the numbers, all the studies have shown that

for the most part, you don't want to impact their percentage. What you impact the most on a defensive end is their attempts. Are you taking the shot away? That's a good three-point defense.

But if you're saying we're going to let him shoot and miss, you are living and dying with their either going to make it or they're not, right? And so they shoot one for 18. We got this game on a control.

They start making shots all of a sudden and exposes all the holes that were there all along, it just you were surviving off those miss shots. Number one. Number two, I talked about this either last week or two weeks ago.

You're watching children play basketball. How do they go to a general guy there? Yeah, 'cause children are out there.

We've never been in that position before.

I was joking about it with Tony before the show today. Caden Booser never saw this at Columbus. I'm sorry, great player and a great pedigree in all that. I mean, it's hard at every level of basketball. They've had to have gone under this exactly.

The full court price, yeah, but to a nice point. I know what Columbus say would, they would run teams out of the building, but I hear you. And I'm sure John Shire said something in the huddle or at least I hope he did because it was a real coaching failure.

I understand their kids and when they play, where they played at high school, they're usually the bully team, but this is basketball 101.

“To me, I think Shire is kind of skating.”

That was such a bad coaching mistake. Right. I'm with you on, if we want to put it on Shire, I'm 100% on board for that. I'm saying, as far as the kid goes, it's not,

I don't think he made that decision because he's like,

oh, I've never seen a full court press before.

Oh, well, maybe this will work. I think it's like, oh, shit, we're about to lose this game. Like, that's what he's a child.

There's no part of this, you guys are like, trying to put like, look at Dante's level cool in a kid who's, like we said. But it's not more about to lose this game. It's, I've got two guys streaking toward the basket.

And for dunking, and you're sitting like playing a video game, and sitting back in the calm of your recliner, and hitting pause on again, we'll get a beer before you finish this game. That's not what they afraid to go to the free throw line.

I don't, I'm not saying like the decision was right. I'm saying that, hey, maybe just maybe under incredibly stressful circumstances, people sometimes lose their cool,

especially when they've never been stressed like that before.

Duke lost to Texas Tech first couple of weeks of the season by one point. They lost to North Carolina, a game that they were leading throughout that was not unlike this game where they lost at the buzzer, because North Carolina made five threes

in the last five minutes. A truly absurd game for Duke to lose. But Duke was, and is the best team in this tournament, they should have been undefeated. You can like Arizona, you can like Michigan,

Duke's the number one overall seed. They shouldn't have lost the season. They shouldn't have lost a basketball game this season, and they sure as hell shouldn't have lost that one. That you cannot lose is the better team

when the other team starts one for a team. From three in your up 19 point.

“But Dan, that's what we love about March, right?”

It almost gets to a point where both teams are equal. You come, was a great team this year also. They've been, I think I saw, Hurley's been in the final four, three to last four years. Yeah, he's like, yeah.

He's an incredible coach.

They have incredible program put together. And that's just one of those games where all of a sudden, the playing level was completely even. And the kid who made the shot as a freshman, but look at the rest of their roster.

Those are all veteran players. Guys were juniors and seniors. They hung care bands on jersey and the rafters. It's like, this is exactly what I'm talking about on the NBA level, albeit it's different,

but the idea that, hey, when you have, maybe not better talent, maybe not even equal talent, but close enough. But you got guys who have been there before, it makes a massive difference, massive difference.

You think Mullins made that shot because of been there before. No, he's a freshman. I said other than him. I think he made it because of, yeah, you say other than him,

but the guy who took the shot, that's a panic shot. Like they all, that's a dispression shot. But they needed two. Like he didn't have to shoot it from there.

And if he had airballed it,

“we would have been like, what are you doing shooting it?”

He said after the game that he thought it was to tie it. Yeah, oh, really? I mean, the, the, that's funny, especially considering what we're talking about. And there before, 'cause I was gonna get there

and early all sorts of credit.

But like, I, first of all, I preface by saying other

than the guy who made the shot, right? But also to get in a position to make that shot, they had to make that come back. They had to persevere under circumstances that were not ideal.

On the opposite end, we don't think Duke recognizes like the sleed was this and now it's this and now it's this and now oh my God, it's a one possession game. Like that creeps into the mentality

of players, young players, inexperienced players in a way that a veteran team would not have choked that away. I understand the theory of momentum and I understand how everything gets a little bit tight. Duke's experience in close games this year

is we lose them. Like because they didn't have that many close games and this one was a crusher in a way that you saw on their entire sideline, how shocked everyone there was.

I was a big believer, though, in what I saw again, saying John's because that was a Duke team that hadn't been in that kind of physical battle all season long, you could see it manifest on the court. Like seven minutes into that game, Duke realized,

oh we're gonna have to tap into something that we haven't had to all season. This team is dragging us into a rock fight and I thought they grew so much from that. I was so impressed with Duke's ability

to climb back into that game, take a punch and keep rolling. And I thought that they would tap into that and they were displaying that for a very long time for them to be undone by between the years stuff after that specific challenge from Patino and Den boys.

That was kind of surprising. And it makes me think that Dan Hurley is actually who like the internet thinks Tom Iso is. Like Dan Hurley is that dude. Three final fours in this era in five years.

- He's a great coach, like that's,

“I don't think that's ever been of per question, right?”

Like I think what he's been able to do is a combination of a guy who's been around the block too. Obviously, but also, man, you talk about this era. This era in a lot of it is having older players. Like we are back to, hey, give me older guys

because they're not going to make the mistakes that younger guys do. And because of those mistakes that they make, we are able to capitalize even when it's the youngest among us who's taking that last shot.

- Did someone mention St. John's? (dramatic music) Did you guys see what Patino resigned for?

in the highest paid coach in the Big East behind only Hurley signed through 2930.

“So he's going to be approaching 880 years old”

at the end of this next contract. He's being paid a tonneys made it all the way back. - Yeah, he doesn't look at day over 30. I'm fibula. - This music, why did we put this with vampires?

Why did we associate this song with vampires? - It was a bang in the back of the day in Transylvania. - I know, but you think like somebody's like, you know, it's a good vampire song. It does give all.

- Like the guy that made it was like, I didn't make this for vampires, but now he's been overtaken by the vampires. - The guy who made this being like, this is a nice light jam, huh?

Wait, where's-- - Well, why are you playing in a car? Why are you playing guitar instead of an organ? - In a tone, he's like, I'm visualizing what Tony was thinking this guy when he made it.

- It's true, Dan, and he used to do it on the guitar and that being played. It's an organ, I'm fibula, the lying vampire. (laughing) - I know, I ain't, I ain't, wait a minute.

- Um, he's got like, I know it's a piano. - He's got like an organ, he's got like an organ. - He's got like an organ, like an organ, like an organ. - A guitar, yes. - But organ.

- I wanna get answers to some of these questions. I don't know, who is the original vampire? Is it Bellalagosi? Is that the original movie Vampire? - No, it's for ought to.

- No, no, it was me, Fibula. - The, well, toss my cake, I need to object to something that you just did there, but, I thought it was funnier.

Okay, the first two times you introduced Fibula

telling obvious lies as a callback, then you then telling us, what, I'm Fibula. They've dragged you like the vampire who doesn't tell the truth. I appreciate the context that you offer, but I found Fibula slightly heavy handed there.

I thought he should have just continued lying to us with just crazy lies, like Pettino looks 30. Well, I'll go back to my good friend George Garland and tell him that Ben Libato, another thing this is funny. Jeremy, what is the answer to the question

as to how this organ that Chris played with the air guitar became the sound that accompanies Vampires into a room? - Hey, that's the air key tar that he's playing right there, so it's perfectly fine. But B, this is a original composition by

not Johan Santana, but Johan Sebastian Bach, and it was used in the 1931 film Dracula. So it then became used throughout Gothic horror films

“for the foreseeable future, and that's why we associated it.”

- To the idea. - Hey, Roy Buddy, you know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together, in Unison, knows to stand up on their feet. - Oh, absolutely, Mike.

- Yeah, you've been at many big-time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Quarival. - Oh, delicious. - It's the signal that says,

"We're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories." Quarival, man, it's at high five, a random stranger effect. That's right, the game is popping.

You're hugging people you never met before.

That's a kind of energy that Quarival brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Quarival effect. Keep it, Quarival. - Don Lebatard.

- It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug because a hug is always the right size. - Stogats. - All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of water.

- Hold on, hold on, hold on. - Don't let him fool you. He said in the break that he's jittery. - This is the Don Lebatard show with his stogats. (upbeat music)

- Why did you throw your hands in?

“- It's important, 'cause I wanted to get us back”

to baseball, Dan. You know, in case you started five for ten with two doubles and a walk off homework, that was the trade for Edward Cabrera. And the Marlin's starting pitching,

the Marlin's started pitching, had 19 innings pitched in their first three games. That's as many starting pitcher innings as three of the four teams that played four games in this opening weekend.

They're starting pitching was amazing.

Their pitcher ERA was two. - Steam down. - How'd you do? - You saw him. - I did throw from Fibula to Johann Santana baseball.

That was where your judgment took you. You decided, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna bring it back to the Marlin's pitching step. - Yeah, I can't fib with you. I wanted to talk about it.

But I think he's really funny. You should definitely not kick him out. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Let's update our tournament here

and get rid of all of these sweet 16 losers that we have. And Jeremy, I don't know what I have to do in this arbitration hearing to get you to turn down the bad jokes

- There you go. - There you go. - You have, have you. Arkansas, a four seed lost to Arizona.

“That means this is now gone from our tournament.”

- Brock Perti looks like a youth pastor. - Number 11 Texas is gone from the tournament lost to Purdue barely. That means this is gone. - Adam Silver looks like an apple watch charger.

- That one's gone. So many Adam Silver's, but that one's gone. - I'm looking at the final four right now and there's only one remaining Adam Silver in our final four.

And it's because you con one with that buzzer beater. Otherwise, all of the Adam Silver's would be gone. So I wanna keep updating our tournament here before we get to the final four here. The amount of chalk in this tournament made it

so that we were that shot away from three number ones and a three for all of the talk of madness. It doesn't tend to be a whole lot of madness. The sweetest and the most surprising of runs would have to be considered Iowa, correct?

Because they were a nine seed and because they were lingering around there and they beat the one seed. - A lot of takes are flying because these last two consecutive March madness tournaments have been very chalky

and a lot of people are saying NIL would remind you. We're not too far removed from a final four that had San Diego State FAU and Miami in it with the one big dog in Yukon winning the whole thing. And that was NIL era.

I do think that there is something to these programs navigating the NIL waters, having a couple seasons to learn from their mistakes

“and grow and that's why you see the bigger programs”

with bigger budgets getting here. But I think two years in a single elimination tournament to start having hot takes flying the way that they are saying that the tournament's ruined

we're never gonna have Cinderella's

we're never gonna have a George Mason Kent State. I also think that that's kind of an easier considering the final four shirt from 2023 is objectively hilarious. - Let's look at how Houston got eliminated.

The two seed lost Illinois which scores an awful lot Houston gone. - Ed Miloy looks like the guy who brushes his teeth in the company bathroom. - That hurts.

Number four Nebraska is also gone. This one's dead on. - Bounix looks like he's a quarterback on a CW team drama about high school football. - He does.

- Same John's is gone even though Rick Patino lives forever that means this is gone. - Scott Hansen looks like an orthodontist. - Number four Alabama's gone lost to Michigan. Michigan looked pretty overwhelming this weekend.

What happened to Alabama? - Paul Feinbaum looks like the Major D at a fancy restaurant. - Michigan State is gone. Michigan State lost to Yukon that means this is gone. - Adam Silver looks like a pissed off lighthouse.

And number two, Iowa State lost its best player so this was gone. - Kurt Signetti looks like the uncle who comes to your house for Thanksgiving and before even saying hello says your door knobs loose.

- So that means we've got our tournament and I'm going to update what happened

over the elite eight results in a second

and tell you who it is that we have left.

“But I think I think all the ones that we have left”

take a look at this list. I mean the green ones are the ones that are remaining. Those are all pretty good. And I think people are going to be happy with what it is that our final four looks like.

But let's get the sound, Chris, can we get the sound? We played the Yukon announcers being excited by the call at the end of the game. This right here is the lament of the loser. Look how quickly Duke's announcers go to the rulebook

and infractions and wanting to make a very quick ruling on something that nobody cares about. Hey look at those excited guys. One of them was on the court. Yukon's not allowed to do that.

We are our free throw. - I'll hold it back for so hard. He's to get rid of it does for Caden. Seven seconds, try to throw it ahead deflected. Stolen by Connecticut.

Two seconds, it's mulling's up top for the win. Oh, hit it. With three tens of a second to go. They'll kind of spit right off the bench. That should be a technical.

But with three tens of a second to go, Connecticut has the least seventy three to seventy two. - That wouldn't have been a technical if all the Yukon players had dropped their shorts at mid court and moaned the entire Duke bench.

- I feel good. - That's not for the win. Oh, hit it. - Oh, hit it. - Oh, hit it.

- What an insight into Duke's mentality. - That is. - This feels just like the opposite of, do you believe in miracle? - That's not for the win.

- Oh, hit it.

- Never has there been less emotion

with a more emotional moment. - Top for the win, oh, hit it. - He sounds surprised. - Top for the win, oh, hit it.

as someone had reached over and thrown his penis into the seat. - Top for the win, oh, hit it. - Oh, hit it. (laughing)

- That'll catch me right off the bench. (laughing) - That should be a technical. - You can't. - That part is so good.

- He's pointing. - He's definitely pointing, right? - That's my favorite part. - Can you guys hear the difference in energy

between the first sentence and the second sentence?

Man, that's what's on with those, and then as he's saying it out loud it's like, "Oh, this is a dumb idea." - That'll catch me right off the bench. (audience cheering)

- That should be a technical. - He's a fan and then he goes back into Broadway. - No, I'm going to realize this is a situation. - I'm going to explain something to you guys here that is appropriately funny

about what the lament of the loser is. - That was one of the greatest moments in the history of that sport and the announcer met it with "Oh, he hit it." But a guy runs on the court and that he met with a lot of enthusiasm.

- That was on the bench, right off the bench.

“- That's how you call what you just saw.”

Not somebody who was a bench player running one foot onto the court. - Then what you're hearing is the desperation

of someone grasping at whatever lifeline they can.

- I just need to survive, I need one last little bit of hope. - That'll catch me right off the bench. (audience cheering) - That should be a technical. - He realized how pathetic he was in that moment.

- He's like, I need to bring it down a little bit. - Exactly, exactly. - Can you imagine if they had called that in that situation? - No, I can't even imagine it. - I just want everyone though to fully absorb, okay?

You just witnessed one of the greatest moments in the history of that tournament. And what you saw on the sideline is give them a parking ticket. They got a, they got a, they got a, you got to give them a, they, we get a point there.

They don't really do it. Why, why is that guy happy over there? I look out on the happy I am. And why is that guy on the court? It really showed restraint that only one you can play

a ran on the court and then immediate,

“I don't know if you guys saw what he did.”

He immediately then went to the sideline and held everyone else back when he was the only one in it, that knew it on his head. - Okay, you know what that is? - Savvy veteran, move.

Malikai Smith, senior. (laughing) The thing about experience, I mean, obviously, they make sense. What you're talking about makes sense.

All of these kids are learning how to play basketball. I don't make them children. Kim Boosers, not a child. They're not toddlers, but they are inexperienced and they are learning how to play basketball.

But I remember, toward the end, with the San Antonio spurs of dunk in genobly and parker. Whenever they won, it's 'cause they were experienced. Whenever they lost, it's because they've gotten old. I don't believe that experiences

what one you con that basketball game. Making threes at the end is what one you con that basketball game. And it's not because they have some great experience in coming back in basketball games.

They got drowned in the Biggie's tournament by Patino and St. John's and there was no recovering from it. The way they lost to Patino makes me not believe in that basketball team. I don't think they belong in the final four.

“I think the championships gonna be played”

between Michigan and Arizona. That Michigan and Arizona are gonna play the championship that that is a spectacular basketball game. And that's where it will be decided. And I don't actually mean that as a knock on Yukon.

They just lost me by the way that Patino did that to them. I think, again, I think the idea isn't that experience is a cure off for everything. But experience allows you to navigate rough waters. In the case of Yukon, the experience helped them.

We're down, but we're not out of this game. And we know that there's a certain level of execution that we can bring to the table. Obviously, making shots as part of execution that allows them to have the belief to go ahead

and win this at the same time. A lack of experience can do the opposite. It can make you doubt yourself in those moments and those navigating those rough waters. Yukon's rough waters, they were down,

dukes rough waters, they were up, but that up was shrinking. How do you respond in those moments? Those little mistakes that allow for those three to get taken, not just made, but taken.

That's what we're talking about here. And those margins, that's where experience comes up.

It can never substitute talent.

But if the talent is close enough, it can't close that gap. Do you know how weird it is and improbable it is statistically to be the lesser team?

Go one for 18 to start your game and end up in the final four. Go one for 18 from three to start a game, get down 19 to a Duke basketball team. Are we not in agreement that the Duke basketball team

put together the season that deserve the overall number one seed? They lost three times all season, all of them.

Otherwise they're undefeated. A combined, is it Jeremy? Is it even Ford and North Carolina also beat them by one? Did they? I just know they're your new Los Angeles Rams.

I will tell you as soon as I see the schedule. This is the deal, Dan. This is someone said it before the show.

“Cameron Hoover, that's why they play the games, man.”

You can have the page reach with the most amazing,

oh my god, and they had a book already written. They already wrote the book. That's how good those guys were. They lost by three to UNC. Right, and then here comes the Giants who are a wild card.

Does that make sense? It doesn't, but guess what? That's why we play the games, man. Sports. That's why we're here, right?

Like this is why we have jobs because shit like that happens. Simon asked about the story, also the swiff flashback, just for some reason, and then hopefully this is stimmt.

No, no, no, no. Like this story is my safe space. Hmm, do you mean that's all it's about? Yeah, exactly. Like this story is so deep story app

that they just understand. Egalobstudium, job, or use. Caste. Cras. I feel like I don't understand.

Steuern-elevedic? Safe. With this story, yeah. Dan Levittard. I win in the margins.

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Other, other dudes, they can be Jambi. You know your role you play? I know my role. VCCD, I live at Thar Show. With this two gods.

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“Well, the thing that I was bringing up during the Shadows Show”

that I will put in front of you guys again, looks at that. In the case of my lifetime, I'm trying to think of something that brings sports fans more joy, not than Duke losing, which is very high on the list.

But Duke specifically choking. Duke being laughed at. Duke being at the end, dumb. The smart school, the school that thinks it's smarter than you, the Harvard of sports, being dumb at the end.

You didn't get a lot of chances to do this to Shchefski. There weren't a lot of opportunities to laugh at them because they lost. There weren't a lot of opportunities to laugh at them because they disintegrated.

Because I'm going to say it again, the only other time you can let in that game was to do nothing. It's just a little weird for like, you can't be the benefactor. Because like, this decade, I'd probably be more sick

and you can, right? I'd have more you can fatigue than Duke fatigue. And Hurley is definitely a polarizing figure. He's way more annoying to like the average sports fan than anybody on Duke. Duke was missing the secret sauce, although they had it with her head coach. John Shchef was pretty annoying as a player.

Let me just throw that one out there. Pretty annoying.

We did miss an incredible coaching match.

“I think because it was during the weekend,”

we had mid-cronen versus Dan Hurley in a coach off of like, who could get redder? He was incredible watching. I was like, this is great. Let me go ahead and update the elite eight results

because we've lost some teams that hurt. The moment that Purdue left, that means that this also left. Jonathan Zaslow looks like he says, "Oh, spaghetti, oh, when he sees someone pulled over." [LAUGHS]

Zaslow is skiing. I am told that we will be sent videos of some sort from his skiing escapades. But that means Arizona remains in the tournament and thankfully Jonathan Zaslow remains in the tournament.

Jonathan Zaslow looks like an off-duty mind. [LAUGHS] On a smoke break. You could argue that Arizona's been a better team than Duke has. Realistically, Dan.

Yeah, Arizona's great. Arizona's 34 and 2, they lost the Texas Tech in over time, lost the Kansas. They're one of the great teams that we're not talking about them. I mean, they are a one seed.

They could have been the overall one number one seed, and I wouldn't have objected. I was nine. I was gone. That means this is gone.

Mike McDaniel looks like the barista who asks, "If you've ever tried journaling while making your oatmeal, glatte, it's a good one." Good run. A little too detaily.

Good run for that one. A mean doesn't like that one. I want that guy. Illinois, this one's accurate, so Illinois's gone. Tony Reali looks like the overzealous owner of an Italian

restaurant who always greets you at the door with my favorite

couple when you walk in. I misspoke. So that advances. That's in the final four. That's accurate.

And that is in the final four. Yes, Tennessee is gone. That means this will not be participating in the final four.

working, still asks, "What's your 20 when waiting for you to arrive?"

“Michigan deserves to advance over the last few years.”

Michigan is the only team I've seen having seven footers set screens, four, seven footers, Michigan advances, that means this advances. Michael Smith looks like the high school teacher that motivates a student by sitting in a chair backwards.

100%. I think that's who he is, by the way. Like the Tony alley one. How do you feel about Duke being eliminated and therefore this being eliminated?

Fernando Mendoza looks like the cashier in a 1960s McDonald's poster. That's a good one, man. The hairy arms there in the watch are really good.

You can't advance, is that means that Adam Silver has only one

tournament team this year getting to the final four. Adam Silver looks like a newly open chapstick. So, I mean, there have only been two schools to be eliminated from the NCAA tournament in three straight years after holding a substantive halftime lead in all of the game six plus points

being considered substantive. It's not a lot of points, but it's John Shire's Duke team. The last three years and Bruce Perl's Auburn team, 2023 through 2025. There is something Mike was mentioning and he doesn't have this

wrong. He's mentioning that Yukon has been more relevant over the last year, but Duke is grandfathered in on hatred, literally from your grandfather. I get that.

Several generations. I get that, but it's Yukon, like they're, they're great too. They're the ones that I'm sick of seeing. I actually really like this Duke team.

And I was kind of like, I know they got Miami guys too. That's part of it. They're missing a little secret sauce, which is also part of it. But I really love the way that they played, especially throughout this tournament.

They got a really difficult draw. They were going through like all these, these henchmen, these big bad bosses at these levels that you would like to see a team like that conquer. Iso Patino and they were gonna smite Dan Hurley and they fell short

“there and again, I think shires like that's the first time that I'm like,”

"Ooh, like that's where you miss Coach K. They're recruiting at a very high level, but I just had a very difficult time wrapping my head around like a Coach K team makes a very same mistake. I couldn't see it.

My wallet didn't really much care for Duke. I don't like eating care about basketball. It's like, why are you playing? What do you play baseball? I was like, "No, not that good."

But you're up well, probably cared about Michael Jordan because he transcends all of basketball. And now he's suddenly very available in interviews, like NASCAR. He's on ESPN's wonderful Sunday Morning show, the show that is

from another time, a magazine type of show, ESPN's Sunday morning. CBS. Yes. The gear head was just destroyed. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I lost a lot of gears.

Oh, no. I saw it fall off your head. You turned around like you were gonna turn around dramatically to reveal that you were wearing the gear head. Can I say, Mike, you're trying to fit it over your head folds.

over your baseball cap dude you you'll kind of play with fire there man. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's all about the gear head. What there are many pieces to the gear head it was made lovingly by Mike Fuentes. So now you're very excited because you get to talk about Michael Jordan. He is all of a sudden a lot more available than he was for interviews when he was losing all the time as the owner in Charlotte why don't you catch us up Mike on all gear head related things

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quarevo for every lap. Keep it fun. Labels out. Labels out. There you go. Keep it quarevo. How do I boy? So Martin'sville. Short track racing. Finally back on the NASCAR circuit. Many Hamlin was bossing this race as it usually does at Martin'sville but Chase Elliott had other plans at the paperclip Dan. A pit stop was where this race was one. They take a gamble. They get the short pit stop. Hendrick Motorsports on top for the first time all

season was worried about them. I know that they can't rely on the 48 car. So the number nine. The son of Bill from Dawsonville. Chase Elliott takes a race at Martin'sville but for me the main NASCAR story was what we saw at CBS Sunday morning because it's very rare when you get a

Michael Jordan availability. It's only afforded a peacock for several million dollars or he

sits down with Kail King because he loves talking about NASCAR and this dude is a completely different guy around this sport. What I love so much about NASCAR and going to these races is how fan friendly these events are. If you have pit access, garage access the drivers are right there and it's not hard to get. No, no, no, no, it's not hard to get. You can be on the finish line like 20 minutes before the race and the drivers are all there and you would think Michael

You can reach out and touch him if you want and he doesn't seem to mind it. I thought the most

“interesting quote that he had I know first say might do something with his like goat commentary”

saying there's no such thing as a goat because everybody borrowers from different generations. But I thought when he revealed he likes being around NASCAR he's got something to give to this sport whereas when he's around the game of basketball he doesn't like his own presence and how it affects the game. He's a myth in many ways larger than the game itself and that wears on him and he's got this weird relationship with being around basketball attending games. Whereas with NASCAR

it's something new. It's something fresh. It's challenging. It's not something that you can put ball in his hands and be great. It's adversity for him and he's really gravitating to that at this stage in life. I mean, I know you saw the CBS Sunday morning piece. What do you think?

No, I thought about first of all the last time I saw him that energized and excited talk about

something was probably when he talked about playing baseball, right? Because the idea is like this isn't

“a place where I'm a deity and if I scratch my ear and it was like that's how you scratch your ear”

on the right side. That's the only way to do it because Michael Jordan doesn't that way to like no, I can just be one of the guys or as close to one of the guys as he probably can experience in his life. But the other thing is also I know that a lot of people were surprised and I'm like hey man he you want to talk about just a good idea. He is from Wilmington, North Carolina. He is a product of the American South and yeah he likes stuff like that. He likes NASCAR. He had a motor

motorcycle team before this. He built his way up to NASCAR ownership and this is it reminds me a lot Dan when we have people come on like act famous actors or comedians

“and we talk to them about sports and they light up because like every other interview you just”

want to know about hey how fun was it to make Anaconda with Paul Rudd like oh it's great he's

just an amazing actor whatever and now all of a sudden it's like hey what do you think about the

Kansas City Chiefs like oh now finally someone's gonna ask me about something that I'm passionate about I'm interested in that isn't this identity thing that I have to walk with every single day and like Kobe to a very large extent and a rod to they kind of modeled jitter they modeled their behavior around a cerebral Michael Jordan that there was one MBA finals at a one after his dad passed where he let that emotion out but it wasn't this joyful player. He displays more joy

on any given NASCAR race hopping over the barrier and congratulating his driver then he ever did on the court and for me and someone that grew up lucky enough to watch Jordan dominate the game and become bigger than the game itself it's really strange and refreshing to watch. Yeah if you think about like this Mike like when it has Michael Jordan been allowed to be a fan of basketball right like even probably going back to North Carolina he's been a machine

obsessed with dominating right you don't get to have fun with that you get to just treat as a serious job what she has to probably the greatest extent of anyone in the history of the game. NASCAR is like there's no part of this where he could be like oh man let me get behind the wheel like I can't do this I'm just a fan yeah I own it yeah I I fund it but it's like at the end of day it's the joy of I'm a fan I'm gonna go back though to Michael Jordan when he's in the gym

in North Carolina and I'm gonna go next to him and I'm gonna stand next to him when he's at practice and I'm like you're not gonna believe that you're gonna be the best ever at this but what's What's going to excite you is baseball and NASCAR.