The Big Suey: The Major Animal (feat. David Samson)

- Welcome to the Big Suri! - Presented by draft Kings. - Why are you listening to this show? - The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan-Levitard podcast.

- Sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. - In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. - I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. - I've done it. - And now, here's the marching men to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. - I mean, to the point of the Eastern Conference,

we even saw a team that was in the NBA Finals last year, make a move that was kind of head scratching at the moment when the pace is traded for Zuboats. Like, there's a lot of teams that have done something, but if you have the goal of getting a yawness, right?

“Then you have to do things that serve that goal, no?”

- Yeah, so it's basically like a flow chart, right?

You step over here you say, I want you want yawness. If yes, you go this way. If no, you go this way. If your answer is yes, and you start following down that path,

you cannot then midway through and say, "Ooh, I like kind of one of those options down there." It's gone. It's done for the pace, which, by the way, the other franchise in the NBA,

that it's staunchly on the record, anti-tanking. We do not tank in Indiana. That's what they say. They were forced into this hand. What happened to them this year?

- This is great hand, by the way, because now they're gonna get the number, we'll pick Agent Advance up. - Yeah, that's-- - That's what it's gonna do. - It's a very move.

- It's like your competition keeps making good moves. - It worked out for them. They took lemons, and they made lemonade. If Haliburton doesn't get hurt. Hell, Haliburton can get hurt.

If PS, Pascal Siakum, and Nim Hart, and McConnell, and Jackson, and Neesmith all don't get hurt to start the year,

“they're doing the same thing that he's doing right now,”

because that's how they do. Now, what ended up happening was those guys all started hurt. They started awful. It's set their core to their flow chart in a certain way. And then when a zoo box becomes available

for multiple firsts, for them, they're saying, look, we're a team that, when we're healthy, we really like, we got, we are a center away. - Let's go get it. - But it is reasonable,

I mean, to say that you can understand a team that made it to the NBA Finals. Made it deep in the NBA Finals against a really good OKC team. It's understandable that they would stand pat.

- It's almost like there was a team that went to the NBA Finals at-- - Talk to you about five years ago. - No, but five years ago, you were talking trash. You were like, oh, these guys are that good.

- You know, five years ago, about their prospects after they went to the finals. - Yeah, I was right about that. - They were after. - Yeah, they were after.

- It's right about. - Okay, so Indiana is the same situation. They're in the same situation. They've the only difference is,

“their franchise player got irrevocably in the finals.”

And then all of their starters got hurt to start thinking, you love that player. - But in the season, they were selling, they bought. - I love that in argument, started when I'm like, we don't have to argue about this team anymore.

We don't, like, it 'cause, like, we-- - We're not the only-- - I'm talking to Tony out. You're the one that's talking to me right now, but I'm talking to Tony.

- But in that situation-- - You've decided to insert yourself. - Where you're tanking, but you're a buyer at the deadline. - Right. - 'Cause when nobody saw Zubot squirt in Indiana.

- Sure. - Sure, it was, it happened very quickly. I talked to Jake Fisher, 'cause he reported on it. Happened very quickly, because it was like, "Hey, what's up with Zubot?"

And they knew that Zubot was being shot, the Raptors were actually the ones that were really hot on it. And the word from the clipers is, if it's not multiple firsts, don't talk to us.

So the Raptors said, "That's a little too rich for my blood, somewhere there's a podcast/radio guy in Toronto." And I could believe they'd post up on it everyone else's stuff.

- Everything that's happened here is disrespectful to David Samson. You guys continued to argue about this, and you were so much better on this subject when screaming at Tony through the break,

just screaming at him, doing your own show, so much better than you were articulating what you just articulated. I wanted to hear the show you just did with Tony

when you, I've never seen in our show's history ever.

- An argument go from on air to off air to you were screaming at Tony, the argument. - Why is this screaming? - We were talking. Very loudly, but we were talking.

'Cause there was a lot of noise and stuff. - It's screaming. - We were excited. We were excited. There was an excited tone, not an angry tone.

I think Atlanta has the best prospect going for an Easter conference. If we wanted to talk to David about that. - Look, the Celtics are who the heat thought they were and everyone else in that conference is no,

they're not. - No, they're not. - Incorrect statement. Celtics had a not one, but two, perennial all NBA top five picks. - Two top five picks, but the top three picks. - The Celtics and heat were even at the top of the conference

and whatever the growth has been since then has been the Boston front office leaving the heat behind. - There is no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not, no. You're not going to put false kind of statements as fat. They started with two top three picks

who are all NBA players. Whatever the equality was at the height of ban blocking, just Tatum or whatever kind of poetry approach you want to use, it was still this team has talent. This team is scrappy guys were just fighting to get there.

And so you can't say, oh, the front office

have made all, they started on third base

You're starting at home and trying to make it to the second.

“- Not only that, you have the top three picks”

that end up panning out into all NBA players, but then you have the development that is happening here in Miami. You had that same development over there in Boston with guys like Dirk White who couldn't shoot is now at three point assassin, with guys like Peyton Pritcher

who was not, not going to be in the league right? - Unplayable. - And now he leads the league in points for Dan and Iso. - And they trade for Drew Holiday in Porzingus and then get rid of them and all of the pieces

now fit around their two pieces. Like that, they've made it so that they're at the top of the conference and can dominate it for a while because those two guys under the track, that's the starting point.

- The awareness of the franchise and know that they weren't good enough. And they made moves, they had to. And Miami got swept up and making the finals while immediately after the finals,

we also argued this seemed totally maxed out. They're not good enough. They have to do something. They stood pat, year after year. And now, like hopefully, we're just doing the same thing again

where we're wishing that, you know, the old Pat Riley shows up and he gets the whale. What I'm arguing is, and they've shown this in the past. They've realized that they weren't good enough. They remained competitive.

They did this with their Germain O'Neill team, where they increased their flexibility to be able to chase those whales. And all I'm asking is, if we weren't gonna add a star, why not add assets?

“And I think that's a question that should be asked”

when you're holding this franchise accountable. - Two parts here. The one that responds is gonna lose. - The one thing that is pointed in Mike's favor and becomes a part of it is like,

are you adding assets? I think the heat's view here would be the flexibility that they maintain the summer may have been more valuable

than trading those pieces for second round picks

and salary filler will see what happens because they're trying to acquire that talent we're talking about. - That's part one. - But when it comes to the second part,

I spoke with their exposed tree yesterday about this exact thing where the Celtics and the heat stand. And when it comes to that rivalry, like you guys might have a first round series if the heat are one of the seven or eight seeds

and end up as the seven. And he was like, look, they look at us right now, like exactly what we are and they should. Because we are not to the caliber of team that they have been and that talent disparities obvious

and it was on display yesterday in the first quarter. - Guys, the Celtics have clenched a playoff spot now for 12 consecutive seasons. They've reached the playoffs 18 of the last 19 years and 22 of the last 25 in the last quarter century.

No team has played or more one more playoff to games than Boston. And since the Derek White tip that all of that stuff, the Celtics have run circles around the heat and what you saw last night is evidence of why

the heat thing has now collapsed. David Samson has been waiting patiently and I just want to get to two more things and I'd like them to be with David Samson. First, can you play a mean earlier in the show

doing sensual Pat Riley for some reason? David, just please analyze for me here what it is that is happening here when a mean goes full sensuality. Here how does it get that out of my face? I'm not doing any deals on Pat Riley.

I like what I have. Pat Riley. - What? - That's a guy who has a very good Obama. A really good one, I mean.

And you're trying to sort of do what you can't do and it comes off is just wrong. Stick to Obama. You got a couple great ones, actually, I mean. - What do you do?

Explain to me what the sensuality, are you showing your nipples to all? I'm bat Riley, like that thing, show me this again. - No, I wanna know what I mean is doing here. Do you think you're giving off swagger and sensuality here?

- I wasn't going for sensuality, I was going more for like, look at me, I'm here, I've arrived. - Fast before. - Now they're looking at me, tell me what happened here when Mike told you to look at me and me

and I was made very uncomfortable by everything that happened. (laughs) - I mean, look at me. - Wait, oh, I thought there was a video. - I mean, look at me.

- Yeah.

- No, I was, look, I'm always respectful.

So I wasn't being respectful when I wasn't making eye contact with him. - I mean, he closes his eyes and shakes his head and does this little look here. I remain with eye contact, but in that moment,

I wasn't, and so he was right to call me out. See that? - We're 10 minutes late, Dan, so just curiosity. Is this a me thing if it is just fine? But if you had a guest that you scheduled

“and then you just did this, I guess maybe that's why”

the booking people have issues, I don't know. - We're in here, been here 15 minutes. - Yeah, I'm sorry, and that's genuine. I do mean that sincerely. I do because the show has gotten away from me, obviously.

We rarely have an argument that's that authentic, where the two people are on different sides. And I can see where I mean is calling for fairness and I can see where Mike is like enough. I'm done being reasonable.

Everyone's past them. Like that's not up for dispute on where the heat are, but before you came on with us, we were excited about the Marlins and what I wanted to ask you is, first off,

did you have any thoughts on there and announced attendance of 6,000,

because you were notorious about why you would

fudge the numbers on attendance in this city? - This is why, because it's the national conversation that there were 6,500 people at the ballpark.

“All you have to do is buy $4,000, $1 tickets.”

$4,000 bucks, we wrote the check every game. Did buy $4,000, you announced 10,169, and no one says a word. It is shocking to me that this view of like, oh, let's be transparent. Really, you want to be transparent?

When you got 6,500 people announced, no. There's a time to be transparent and a time to be murky. This is the time for the Marlins to be murky because what we should be talking about is the fact that they got off to a five and one

start against teams, they should have gotten off to a five and one start again that it puts them in a position to potentially have a season worth watching. Let's talk about Sandy Alcantra.

Let's talk about Owen Cass, your Griffin O'Nine's bomb.

- Maybe it was when the game was out of reach, but so much to talk about, instead you're talking about 6,500, they did it to themselves. - I don't think anyone's talking about the 6,500. - You're talking everywhere, Mike.

- Oh, no, it's what he meant. - It's the same trolling, but I think they're conversation. - Well, part of the national conversation should be five and one fish, Sandy, complete game shout out. They look at this line up, like they're, they're like,

I don't think, okay, I guess you're running more national circles than I am.

“I think that that's just taking low hanging fruit.”

Locally, I don't think anybody's talking about that, so maybe that's when I'm applying. - Yes, so I'm definitely talking about nationally because nationally people watch your show and nationally that is how these type of shows are engaged

and that's their audience. And that's just, by the way, baseball fans, sports fans, how about that? I got context by people who weren't even baseball fans, hadn't watched the game and then commented to me

about the attendance and wanted my thought. Like, do you have a comment about 6,500 people in my response was, I've got a comment about having one of the top five pictures ever to wear a Marlin's uniform going nine

and doing a Maddox? Would you like that comment and the answer was, nah, we're more curious what your thought is on attendance. - Hey, Roy Buddy, you know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together,

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- I mean, can you walk me through what you make of what David is saying because he is taking a very easy approach is for $4,000, again, I buy myself out of an embarrassment. It's a price worth, it's a price worth, murky numbers.

But he's doing an accounting move just to not have the conversation about the Marlins be again for the 30th straight year.

But that, but he's right, it goes back to kind of,

some of the argument that's having on my queries is, well, they had their PR people run a bear Jackson and say, I'm like, yeah, what are they supposed to do? The job of the PR department is to protect the franchise at all costs and we're not here to be, like David said,

there's a time for transparency. This ain't one of the times. So we do whatever it takes to not attract the wrong kind of attention to our franchise. The team is five and one.

Jeremy tells me they've got a better record since some date last year. - June 13th, and last hundred games, right? And then the Dodgers, just don't laugh at that. A hundred is a good sample, right?

So the whole thing, no, I'm laughing that I mean is trying to talk baseball, I love this.

“- Yeah, well, I'm thinking I'm a succeeding also, right?”

So the ideas that there are plenty of positive storylines

to be put ahead, and for it to be overshadowed by an attendance figure that can be easily fixed, like David said, for grand, hell, call it five grand. Let's go crazy, let's say there are 11,000 people there. Let's give away the seats.

- Whatever it is, it's so easy to obfuscate that one embarrassing part that really isn't important to the story of the team. David, I want to bring you in on something we were discussing yesterday and wanted to properly

articulate your vantage point on this. We were talking about how the customer going to the games is less important to owners than it has been. And I was parading some opinions I've heard you when Skipper espoused, but Mike and I mean,

we're arguing with the idea that the in-game experience now, very luxurious catering to high end people, still is important. How long before it's not important anymore? That no fans at the game are very few people in seats,

that it won't matter because the TV money is so large, that all of these places can play, can neglect customer service because it matters less that people go to the ball parks. - Well, you're not neglecting customer service.

You're just figuring out where there are more customers. And you can't do the same and do the same for every type of customer, which is why they're different types of experiences within a stadium, whether you're in the outfield or whether you're in a luxury suite behind the plate.

I think what you're referring to is that there's way more money in national revenue and in streaming revenue as a percentage of your total pie than there ever has been. And those numbers are increasing at a percentage at a compounding rate way more than ticket prices,

plus food, merch, parking. All of those combined do not show the inflate inflationary aspects as do broadcast revenue.

“And so that's why you're seeing a change.”

Look at what Skipper did with Unrivaled. He made that a television studio. Let in a couple thousand people and just make it a TV product to get a TV deal to get the league on its feet. The NBA right now, if you ask them, the NFL,

I hate to tell you it's the same thing. If you look at their TV deals, it's just not even close what they care about more. All right, so clean this up for me because the NBA got their money.

The NFL got their money in the NFL's trying to renegotiate. I see all sorts of news items on all these other leagues getting frustrated because the NFL's hogging all the money. There's only so much budget that people have for this. I see RSN's collapsing.

It used to be a huge part of the baseball model. Now, that has to evolve. I do think baseball is in pretty solid position to be able to adapt with the times. I had the infrastructure.

Basketball is going to be an issue, certainly for hockey. It's going to be an issue.

“But I don't see TV money from this point on moving”

with that sustainable growth. I actually see the money coming down, especially when you factor RSN's into it. So wouldn't that put more importance on getting people through the turn-saws?

No, you may be talking about the allocation of local versus national mic when it comes to baseball. But the NFL, when you say they're trying to renegotiate what they're doing is they haven't opt out in their media rights deal for years from now.

In 2020, I guess it's three years now, we're in 26. And they have TV deals that we're signed through 33, but with an opt out in 29. And they're going around to their partners and saying, hi, we're the NFL.

Do me a favor. We want more money right now.

And if you give us more money, here's what we'll do for you.

We won't opt out in 2029. No, it's not just that though, David, because Paramount is changing ownership. Now, the NFL can renegotiate with them right now. Like they can open up that contract right now

because of that trigger of the Paramount sales clause. Yeah, so, but it's all part of the same. They're not going to renegotiate one company to time down. They're doing it all in.

They're not just talking to Netflix about taking four extra games right now or a four-game package. They're trying to do everybody. It's coming out as they're negotiating

But no business does that. There's no exclusive period

“where there's going to be some sort of breakage fee.”

Hey, if we don't get it done with Paramount, then we'll move on to Comcast. They're doing it all at once to put the entire package together. And it's what the NBA did. And they just finished doing it,

which is why you saw them on 10 channels. And it's what MLB is trying to do after 2028, which is to combine everything and make it much more national Mike, which takes away the local side of the importance of that revenue, which you're right.

It used to be so important. And it's just disappeared.

David, the problem is yesterday,

Dan's version of the argument was kind of adulterated to be, like, it doesn't matter at all. And I said, they're never going to give up on the in-game experience, because that is revenue, just because the streaming rights and the media deal money

is going at a larger rate to be a bigger percentage of the revenue pie. Does not mean that they're going to ever forego this. So what Skipper did with unrivaled, which did forego that.

“Yes, but that's the scales are completely different.”

In terms of this, a startup league in a niche version. It's not even five on five basketball, right? Versus these legacy things that are often being performed in buildings that the people who own the team own the building as well, or at least operate it.

There's no part of this, David, where we're going to see 10 years from now, 15 years from now. Like, that's all on TV.

That's never going to happen, right?

No, but you know, but what you are going to see is where it takes on less importance. What used to be a big focus when we built Marlon's Park angles, where the camera's going to be. What seats are impacted by camera placement?

And we would have cable vision or Fox and MLB come the broadcasting department. And when you're designing all of that, you're thinking about obstructed seats. You don't think about that anymore.

You want and need the best camera angles for ABS. You need it for replay. You need it for the TV broadcast. That is taken on a far bigger importance in terms of how a game is presented.

But no, you're not going to turn down revenue. But nobody's doing stadium deals anymore. They're all doing real estate deals. They're all doing deals to get revenue outside of the stadium because what happens inside the stadium, no matter

how many guns and roses concerts you have, is just not enough. David, do you wish you had done a bigger deal for loan depot that included the surrounding area and had an entertainment complex?

Yeah, we tried. We wanted control of the garage retail. We wanted control of the ballpark retail. The city wouldn't give it up because they thought that they had a better chance of running it

and they wanted the money and it ended up, of course, not having any of the urban sprawl that we hoped to see in Little Havana. It's been 15 years already. And you just haven't seen anything.

And that's-- It's the opposite point. It's the opposite of urban sprawl. Just to be more respectful, though, to David Samson, because we did waste his time at the beginning

of this here, he is going to infiltrate and, in fact, pitch clock with Jeremy Teshay. His baseball knowledge is really good. And we don't use it enough for around here,

because we're always talking about the business stuff.

So I don't know what he and Jeremy are going to cook up here later in the show, but he will get his time back with Jeremy Teshay. And I offer you my sincere apologies for wasting so much of your time on the front end of this.

Take me through the business of Netflix getting into baseball and the ratings numbers were said to be 3 million people. The numbers-- I don't know what numbers to believe. The numbers on Diamondback's Dodgers on NBC was 3.2 million people.

I don't know what those numbers mean. I would think Netflix buying into baseball at $50 million. If they can get 3 million people to their baseball product, I guess that's a success, but I don't know what the accounting here, do you?

Yeah, no. So I'm not paying attention to that announcement of $3 million or $1 million. I have no way to understand how they're arriving at that numbers. The way that you want to look at it is what are their subs?

Are they gaining more subs who joined because of baseball, who are going to keep renewing even though there's not a game now until the home run derby?

“Because that's how Netflix is looking at it.”

That their return on their baseball investment is not from the number of people who watch the game. It's the number of people who engage with their platform and then do it on a monthly basis. Because you know this, Dan, there is nothing better

than recurring revenue. It is the dream of any business to have that. That and that is what streaming services are. It's why this goes all the way back to fun that we've had on this show about Columbia Records,

where you forget to cancel and you keep getting records.

as you watch the business of sports explode? Do you guys not marvel at the idea of all this found money and streaming? They're doing the same product. And they're selling it for so much more because they're more competitors.

And so this thing continues to grow at an accelerant that has no stopping it. Well, I do think that they're stopping it because we were talking about R.S.Ns the same way. There's going to be something that changes this.

Hell, it might even be a recession, but teams are already complaining. Franchises and leagues are already complaining that there isn't enough money for them when it comes to rights because the NFL is in the room.

“So I think much like R.S.Ns at a certain point”

we're going to reach a point where the money's never

going to go up anymore. And the market will then dictate what these new deals are. Right now it's a gold rush for these leagues. But I think you're already starting to see David, the start of the end times for that.

I do not. I think we're not even in the middle of the end times. I think we may be in the middle of the early part of what streaming is going to look like and what consolidation will look like.

And leagues are smartly taking advantage of it by negotiating deals right now. If baseball had its brothers, they would not be waiting till $2,029. They'd like to get a collective garden agreement done yesterday

and they'd like to be out in the market. It doesn't matter. The concept of the NFL taking all the money inside the league offices, they're not really looking at that way because if you look at the competition for hours,

it's hours of content. The NFL and Major League Baseball are not competing in terms of eyeballs and streams at the same time for the most parts. September, yes, you could argue on Sundays

in October, there may be a conflict. But guess what? There's enough money to go around for all these sports. So it's not like they're panicked about the NFL. - Okay, so we can dismiss what they're putting

in the public space as posturing, I guess. Everything's in negotiation. But ESPN is not really keeping this a secret that they already regret the WWE deal. Apple very clearly had to do a lot of changes

to their MLS deal. They regret that. There are really regrettable deals being signed and had in for the last several years. At a certain point, the people buy in these licenses

are gonna realize it's not worth the squeeze

“because they're providing seed money right now, right?”

They're not even hoping to recoup. They're just trying to get subs and credit cards that they hope just keep charging well beyond the term of these leagues. I do think and there's plenty of soccer examples too

where there was regrettable money spent. How many bad deals do they have to be before the marketplace wise ends up? - Take that with players. Think about what you just said.

On the number of teams who regret signing certain players and then you've got to trade him, but pay part of his money and then they get traded again and you end up with three teams paying the salary, even of one player. Even though when he signed, there was a jersey ceremony

there was excitement. You walk out of the field with a flag around your back like all sorts of cool things happening.

So that sort of regret will always happen,

but as long as there's competition, that sort of regret gets forgotten about quickly and you get back in the saddle. So when you say that Apple has a regret over MLS,

“okay, over that particular deal at that particular moment,”

but they're right back in the game, allocating their resources and their capital to doing deals just like it with leagues as they figure out how to get more eyeballs on live events. I just don't think live events will ever have a recession.

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(upbeat music) - Nothing personal is the podcast and it is very good, very strong in as fewer words of possible as possible. Tell me the Netflix baseball experience,

very criticized, success or not. - 86. - So they gotta be, you know you're right near a B+. - Okay, he chose 86 is a weird number 'cause 86 also means cancel it.

- I was like, oh, yeah, it's not, yeah, it's not. - You couldn't, you couldn't do success or no success, you couldn't get me a word. You gave me a number and you just played your own game. Your own bullshit game.

- Really? - Like, yeah, like he gave me an 86 he gave us a grade for some reason. I'll try it again, Netflix was widely criticized, presenting baseball to America and it's first try.

The public relations were, we could say, objectively bad.

They spent $50 million on a three-year contract

again, found money for baseball to just televised three things, three big events, this is one of them. Worth it, yes or no, success, yes or no. - 85. - That's not a B+.

- That's a B, that's a good score, that's a good score, that's a good grade, that is a good grade.

- When I bring the report card home,

“my mom sees B, she doesn't care, I was so mad.”

- Are we still doing anything? - Loved in 80 times. - Are we still doing it this way, is this, they're still using this is the grading system or is ours outdated?

- 80 to 89, it's a B, it's a matter for 89, it doesn't matter for 80, I bring my mom to B. - Is that still the grading system? The math is no longer the same in schools. Nobody knows how to count any more,

they don't have to the calculators and the libraries will do it form on their social studies exchange. - Are wrote the books for the better? - Is 85 eternally still a B?

Is that a one thing that's still allowed to be in the American school system? - Really, really, really, really. - David, I saw nothing personal was on mute, so I know you've already covered this ground,

but I saw a send help as well and I was curious your thoughts on the movie. - I wasn't scared, it was a poor man's triangle of sadness, but I really did enjoy 'cause I love Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien was fine,

there's no really no other characters. I just, it's beyond credibility for me, if you ever get on a deserted island,

isn't the first thing you do is to make sure

that it's a deserted island? - I gotta believe, like that was one of my issues with lost, which I loved. How do you not go find anything else that could be on the island and in send help, spoiler alert?

- This is a sign. - You may wanna look around the island. - Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert. I don't think you can do all of what you gave it away before hand.

- Just saying, look at the island. I'm not spoiling anything. - Well then, if you're gonna be, it's like when you're on survivor, you walk around the island looking for stuff you can eat

until the producer says, "Dude, don't eat that." And you're like, "Okay, how about this? "You're trying to find stuff to eat." If I'm Tom Hanks and cast away and I get a bunch of FedEx packages,

you can bet your ass that I'm gonna walk to the other side, just to see, "Hey, any other possible packages "that I may wanna open."

“- But that's why one of them is incapacitated”

because he can't get up for himself to look around the island. - Is it invalid? - He eventually can, like. - There's a plot device, just why he doesn't. - He took her, and that's the other thing.

If you're ever on a deserted island with one other person, don't take their word for it, do like a double check. (laughing) - I like this too.

- I like this too. - I like this, this working theory. If you ever on a deserted island, maybe take out the rest of the island, that's one. And my one that I dropped yesterday, David, was,

hey, if there's ever the apocalypse and you get lucky, pull out. - Good point. - Don't have a problem. - That was a big deal.

- You had a drop yesterday. - You dropped one yesterday, you dropped an amine? - Yeah. - On the way around America, there was an amine drop yesterday.

- Where did you drop this on the other one? - On the other one. - Okay, so you dropped it in here. Do you do this on purpose, David, or to make yourself purposely unlikable

when you go with the phrase, it's like when you're on survivor? Like, do you do that purposely? I'm asking genuinely, do you? When you mentioned so casually having been on survivor,

are you conscious and purposeful about it? - Well, I just people know that I've been on survivor.

“I think they know me for nothing personal”

and laboratory show and survivor more than anything else I've done in my career. And so, no, I'm trying to give the example of, hey, I've been on an island that's not totally deserted, but you feel that way.

And so, I've seen movies cast away as one of my favorite movies. So, I'm thinking about these things because I'm planning for, with all the flying we all do, like what happens if I'm in a plane crash? What do I do?

How do I survive it? What's my plan once I'm on the island? I do spend time thinking about these things. And at noon today, as a matter of fact, I will be working through some of these things

as I have another appointment with a therapist as I try to make sure that I'm right in terms of how I'm thinking about what I would do on a desert island. - All right, go to one.

- David, we are going to have more David Samson during pitch clock. Him and Jeremy will break down baseball in a way. I'm telling you, and it'll be an hour or two. Samson is very good on the subject of baseball,

but we talked to him. We tend to talk to him about a variety of things here. - Do you guys get to why the game is so fast? Now, we need to slow the game down a little bit, Dave. I don't like how fast it is.

I get to my scene.

- I look around this the third inning.

I take a sip of a beer, it's the sixth inning. I'm doing the seventh inning stretch. I'm going, oh, it takes me an hour and a half. It's done with the game. It's crazy.

- Tony, it's like a dream. - Oh, I need to be about four. I need to be like three and a half, three, forty, five. I can get a couple of beers in, I can make a couple walks around the con, cores, and to extend up one of the bathrooms,

four in his go by. Good, but if that could be, if we could get every fan to say that the average crap lasts three and in, and it wasn't because of a long line, now we're getting somewhere.

- No, we need to be slower. I went to the opening day, I got into the seats. I was holding my daughter all the sudden I look up, you know, eight things have happened and we're at six, six in, instead of terror.

- I don't like what Tony's doing.

“- He was working fast, which I didn't like.”

- I'm on to Tony. - Oh, and to me what, I want to love the game. I want to hold the national pass, I want it to be something that I can enjoy with my family without being there. I park off-site, I got to walk over there,

but it's time I walk over there. Three pitches I've already got there already done. - I got it. The argument is, I'm here to avoid my family. - No, my family.

- I'm not avoiding my family. - I got off-site. - My family was one of Mark. - I lost somebody no blocky blocky. I gave her 20 bucks.

- Keep with the dice, really two bin. - I'm still doing it the offer. - I should, I should support the economy. - I don't call the economy. - Thank you.

- Why does Chris County know about this? - I don't know. - You don't hide about no blocky? - He kidding me. - He's going up on no blocky.

- You judged him for, you know about him, but now you park elsewhere and you judge him. Don't say you weren't judging him. - You pay the 60 bucks. - You say the 20 no blocky.

- You said you park off-site. I've got to stop everything we're doing here, David,

because I am told and Coke has never done this before.

And an emergency sending of video. Coke is telling us that we have video here of you getting scared of a large animal during your, give us the context here of what happened during your show where you attacked by a large animal.

- The context is that I do a live show every morning. It's 7 a.m. and there's never any bugs in the studio. There's never anything in the studio. And there was a live thing flying around while I was talking and I have no relief.

I had a kill it and I miogged it and it scared me because I don't want a bug flying around. It gets in my way. So I was able to kill it. - You caught it?

- I caught it? - Not only did I get it by doing that. So I grabbed it in my palm and then I put it down in the desk and then I hit the desk, which moved the camera all of this while we're live.

And there's nothing I can do because we don't edit it.

“- So do you think, but do you think this was good video?”

Have you seen it? 'Cause Coke? - I have not. - Okay, so what we're about to see, that Coke is sending us in an emergency?

Well, but what do you think, because it was live, you have not revisited this? Do you think this is gonna be flattering or embarrassing video?

Are you gonna be an amazing athlete?

You're using it, it's embarrassing, obviously. Why would you do anything flattering? So I assume I will. - But I don't know a strong assumption. - But the way you describe,

I don't, they're telling me they've sent me something. You just described it as you showing up as Miyagi. The karate kids mentor being able to catch your fly with chopsticks and I'm guessing you were scared of a small bug, is that what they've sent us?

- I just didn't want to fly to my mouth. I don't want to fly to my eye. I know we're alive and what I tried to do was grab it while still talking. And then I lost track of what I was talking about.

It was NBA Europe, but I nailed it. - Nothing personal live every day. Let's hear this. - Is that it's really not? It's really not.

There is a major animal in this apartment.

“- They all, I don't know what I'm gonna do here, huh?”

- I can't do a show like this, Coco. There's something that is going to it. - It's on it. Holy cow, hey, we're alive. I don't like, can you imagine doing a show

like on a safari? Oh, sorry, got him, right there. - A major animal. - Oh my god. - I couldn't even see it on the piece of paper.

- It was alive. - Animal, it was awesome. - For me it was just his staring at it.

The first like kind of seconds of that.

- He said, I lost track of what I was talking about. I thought he just kind of said a talking in kind of fillers and you know, you literally just stopped talking. You just stared. - Coco.

- Thanks, Dan. - Somebody give Coco a raise. Coco just made an emergency decision. - Look at the little, the bucket. - The bucket is the smallest thing I've ever seen.

- Every single animal. - Is this crime that is that bug had to be like this? - Oh, me and her animal. - Major. - Major.

- Well, you're picturing the bug like what? He just called me. - He inflated his ego before he killed it. - A major animal? - They're like a harpy eagle inside his heart.

- Hold on, hold on. I wanna play this again. There's a burning prey, clearly. I wanna bring Bettino, he's flowing into his house and is hovering over his computer.

Look at how distracted that David is on this lonely island doing a show trying to tackle difficult subject matter and distracted by literally the smallest things. - Is that it's really not? (laughing)

It's really not. (laughing) There is a major animal in this apartment. I don't know what I'm gonna do here. Hold on.

I can't do a show like this, Coco. There is something that is going to hit. I think I got 'em. Holy cow. Hey, we're live.

I don't like, can you imagine doing a show

Oh, sorry. It's got 'em right there.