The Big Suey: Zaslow Overthinks His Own Voice

- Welcome to the Big Suri! - Presented by draft Kings. - Why are you listening to this show? - The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan-Lebittard podcast.

- Sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. - In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. - I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. - I've done it. - And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. - This episode of the Dan-Lebittard Show

is presented by draft Kings, draft Kings. The crown is yours. - I think that we can all agree that Steve Kerr is somebody who is exceptional at his job. Even though Steve Kerr before getting that job

had no experience whatsoever to tell us that. Like, I'm not even saying that he had experience that would disprove that. He had no experience. He was hired as a head coach who didn't have experience

could have chosen between the nicks and the warriors.

Derek Fisher took the nicks, never worked again.

Head coaching, Steve Kerr ends up being multi-time champion.

“When Tristan Juju mentioned Jonathan Kamingo, okay?”

And I see what's happening there. This is always confusing to me, says, 'cause I've heard so many athletes over the years say, ah, politics, that's the only reason that I didn't get my opportunity.

I was a star, I could have been a star, I just didn't get a chance. You have so few jobs in that sport. And when that champion is established, it's gonna be really hard for a young person

to break in there. What do you make of the fact? Is Steve Kerr wrong? Is Steve Kerr wrong about Jonathan Kamingo? Or is it just that?

I could give any number of people in that sport, the ball showcased them. And all the offenses are gonna get to 110 points. So if I'm giving the ball to the one guy and saying, well, you're a majestic talent,

then he's gonna be great, but the team's gonna be, not a champion, not as good as Steve Kerr's team has been. - So I feel like that's something we could say

“about someone like Kam Johnson, what he's done.”

Kam Thomas, I get them confused with the nets, it was just traded, I know. - Yeah, waste on waste on the nets, but clearly a good offensive player, right by the nets in a way that made,

I mean, shock that he was waived by the nets because everyone knows he's a great offensive player. - Yeah, Kam Thomas, I feel like that's something we could say about a guy like Kam Thomas, but somebody's gonna be a loser in a riot on a bad team

and maybe that's Kam Thomas will find out. Jonathan Kamingo is the seventh overall pick in the draft. Like Jonathan Kamingo is expected, when you're selected seventh overall, you're expected to be a guy who's gonna be a really good player.

And I hear this narrative coming out of gold and state, people who are around the team were, it's like,

you know, coming up, he was never gonna work in this gold

and state offense, he was never gonna work on Steph's team, you know, I'm sorry. Maybe he's not gonna be the guy that's scoring 22 points a game so far and his three, four games with the Hawks, but he's writing 17 consecutive,

did not play coaches' decisions, get the hell out of here.

“- Yeah, I think that's a fair indictment”

and you talk about spoil, I think that there are things that you can look at within Steph Kerr and say that that is a cautionary tale as well. If you talk the Warriors fans, they're not saying that Steph Kerr is the best coach

or that he doesn't have warts, right? And you look at him as a developer. He's really, really good with high end top talent that are veterans that he came in like Steph Kerr, but what did he do with Moses Moody?

What did he do with James Wiseman? What has he done with John the Kominga? Pots is the only one that's kind of like had some good moments and even he, I think is a player that you could say, maybe should be developed more.

- I think, honestly, that's probably the biggest problem with the Warriors I've had is developing talent. I think that falls squarely on Steve Kerr. - Right, right on Steve Kerr. And as I mentioned last week, put me in the coach in position

with Steph Kerr, Dre Monde Green, and Kevin Durant. I'm gonna get you that chill, man. - Well, this is the accountability that should be around the Miami Heat franchise. You'd say the Warriors and look,

I know with Pop there was some health, but RCBU for it also constructed it. Yet Bob Margey had RCBU for guys that had overwhelming success at those franchises, even they met the rents and realized that it was time to go.

With Miami, they haven't had that level of success or consistency and yet the key players were made. - Juju says what he says about winning a championship, but Mark Jackson with all of that didn't get out of the second round and those players did grow into that

and the indictment that you're making of Steve Kerr is one we made for years of Pat Riley who was throwing the bad back of Dan Marley out there 'cause he only trusted veterans. And of course, what Steve Kerr has learned

when he's never had a job like that before

is when I trust my old guys, my old guys come through for me and those are the guys I'm gonna trust. But I want to cover something that's happening with Steve Kerr that is wildly confusing to me

I don't know what's going on with Porzingus. I don't feel like many people know,

“even though the internet is right with rumors on this subject”

but that was legitimately. You guys every year telling me that there's gonna be something at the trade deadline that happens

and it's always George Hill as the final piece

not winning the championship for anybody but Porzingus was a final piece for a champion and since then wildly confusing general illness Steve Kerr said something on the radio the other day that he talked to Atlanta's GM

and that it was pots and then he ran back away from that saying, look, I'm wildly unqualified to talk about any of this. - What is pots? - It's an acronym and I don't know what the acronym is for it but thank you for asking me a question

that I have no idea how to answer. - Oh, yeah. - Steve Kerr doesn't know what it is and he's got-- - I mean if I talk to him, I appreciate that. - That's that to me, in fact, you know what?

I'm gonna kick him out. - No, no, no, no, no, no, yeah. - Yes, it's a question that we should be asking. - I don't know what it is either.

- Could ask it privately instead of just doing that thing.

- Why? - Why? - Why? - I wish the moment-- - Let's acknowledge we don't know what it is either

and look it up, let's be human. - Let's not try to be perfect. - We're gonna do that while he sits in the other room for two minutes. - Dick Taylor.

- He's just asking the question. God bless him for doing so. - No, God curse him for doing so. Be out there for two minutes by yourself and remanating on not helping me do the show,

by asking me a question that I don't have the answer. - Postural, orthostatic, tacocardio syndrome. I think that's heart-related. - There it is.

- But it's also not that according to Steve Kerr.

He said it, he said it wasn't that. And then everyone's running away and just calling it general illness. And I don't know that we've seen this kind of confusion around somebody,

where was he drafted? Because he was also, when he talks about coming up being a number seven pick, Porzingus was drafted high enough that he was expected to be a game-changing type of player

for a good amount of time. And the illness is just super confusing that they're just filing it under general illness and no one can talk about it comfortably or informed. - But even Porzingus said he had pots.

There's an athletic article about it and he acknowledged it. So I'm not really sure.

“I think Steve Kerr's trying to avoid a hip-of-violation.”

- Yeah, I think that's what it is. That I think it is that. And Steve Kerr said too much and realized it's probably not as business to be saying that. And that's why he walked it back.

It was more procedural than whether or not it had anything to do with the truth. - Okay, but as it relates to hip-of-violations, just so that we're clear on what the Kerr quotes were, what Kerr said wasn't, it is that.

Porzingus said it was that and then Kerr said it's not that. And now they're filing it under general illness as the coach realizes, yes, you're right. You can't be talking about somebody's help

and you certainly can't be saying that what this person has diagnosed it as is wrong, that he's giving us bad information. What Kerr has thrown into the information stream for me is that Kerr knows something that I don't know

but didn't know not to say it. Because why would Kerr say it's not that, unless he didn't think it was that, there's no reason to say that unless you feel like it's not that and now it just leads to more questions.

When again, this has been now three years of Porzingus can't play any meaningful games or meaningful minutes while they talk about general illness, which is not something I've ever heard of sidelineing a player for three years.

Like that's not, you give me all the precedents you guys have for an important top five pick being someone who just can't play during something that's close to his prime. Like I don't, he's even 30 by now, right?

“Like he's, I think he's probably passed it,”

but again, I haven't seen it on the floor with consistency. And also, we can't eliminate the fact that he was traded from Boston and was with a franchise that wasn't actively trying to win. So I think this is part of acquiring Porzingus

and not really knowing what the deal or the sensitivities there are and courage has probably said too much and tried to walk all of it back. But I think the last time we were here with a name that we recognized in that league

and a guy that contribute is Qy, where we didn't really know what was going on, where there was a mystery around his health. There have been health issues in the league before that prevented guys from playing Chris Bosch,

even dating way back to Magic Johnson. This one is a little bit of a mystery. And if you go down the internet, there's all sorts of irresponsible wormholes

But I think this one reminds me most of the Qy thing

in that I don't know what's wrong.

“- The Qy one was slightly different though”

because I had a pretty good idea was his name. Like it wasn't a general illness. I knew that it was his body and that he was having some issues with doctors. - We get to the bottom of that pot's mystery yet?

- Yeah, we did. We answered that while you were in the purgatory over there. Let's get to Dramon Green here though, speaking of the Warriors because Dramon Green as it relates to what's happening right now

to Luca with the Lakers and some of the stuff I'm talking about with, there's one basketball and five guys are allowed to play at the same time. And when Luke and LeBron play together, somebody's numbers are going too suffer.

Somebody's not gonna be quite the same player as Luca is in Dallas even if he's fat

if he's getting the entirety of the usage rate.

So now Dramon is coming out here and saying because the Lakers are truly terrible at defense and you almost can't be good at defense if Luca can be picked on because Luca is not a good defensive player.

“Here's Dramon Green saying something I don't hear”

anyone saying which is, was Nico Harrison right. But now when I turn on a TV, all I see is everybody in the media who crush Nico Harrison, who he's essentially aided in him getting fired, regurgitate the same things that Nico Harrison was saying.

And I struggle with that because I haven't seen one person come out and say, Nico, I'm sorry for the things I said about you when you made those that move because I just said the same thing out of my mouth.

I struggle with that a bit. Again, this has nothing to do with Luca Dodgers and everything to do with the media and Nico Harrison. Nico gave his reason as the general manager of a team a why he thought that was the right move.

And everybody said, "Jord, "Needee, you should be fired. "Were general manager in NBA history." And now all of you people are saying the same thing. But no one has said, maybe Nico is right.

- What does that mean when he says that he's struggling with that? - Well, Jamon just be challenged really with sub-Dramon. You know, I'm struggling with it. - Tristan, why are you laughing?

Is it because he says that with a bunch of marbles in his mouth? You're laughing because you can't understand half of what he's saying

“because it, yeah, he's like, I think that's it.”

Like, is that your A, A, V, E, that's your ebonics? - What do you say like that? - What do you say like that? I always don't know. - I think he says it like that when he's most arrogant.

I love sub-Dramon, this is so borderline. He's being, when he's feeling really good about himself. - Me? - I think you put extra marbles. - Please don't.

- Extra marbles again. I mean that to be my voice, nice one. - Sometimes like, oh, you don't. - That is out of health today. - You said I had Jamon's name, but...

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- Don Lebatard, what is the worst part of the life?

- Stougats. - The worst part of the life of the life of the lives. - This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stougats. (upbeat music) - And it's understand, the struggle?

Why struggle? He's struggling with the fact that the media is criticizing... - He's changing the way it's out, that there are little bit.

You should see his on that one. - But he's struggling, how's he struggling? I don't understand.

“- There we go, that's what we wanted, struggling.”

- Yeah, look, now's how's it speaking to kings? - There was no difference in the way I said it there is, and there was a difference, you swallowed the out, the out, this appears, it becomes struggling. - He knows what he did.

- I don't know what it, it's when he gets most confident that he just, he rolls it around, you know what it is to me, what I hear in his mouth, is the equivalent of somebody waving around a good scotch with a snifter.

Like, if it's in his mouth, the whole thing is in his mouth, and he's just got extra confidence, he's gonna come after Drainman here, but what about the meat of what it is that he's saying? - Oh, no, no, what about the meat?

- There is nobody saying that Nico Harrison was not wrong, but Lucas now coming under criticism with the lakers, because they're clearly not good enough, and Lucas' team in Dallas is better than this Lakers team. - Okay, Trayman knows the centerpiece

that Lucas' trade, Anthony Davis was traded a few weeks ago, right? You know that part, you know, that part of the Luka' trade,

“and him wondering why no one is saying Nico is right,”

does he know that the centerpiece, the only guy that he wanted for Luka, the only team negotiated with the Lakers, does he know that that guy, Anthony Davis, was sent to Siberia a few weeks ago,

also known as the Wizards, and it's not been heard or seen from since. - Let me know. - I'm proud of you.

You basically sound like you're on Bridgerton now,

I'm proud of where you were doing this. - I'm loving this. - I'm loving this. - Minutes earlier. - Spitting facts, though. - He's right. - Also, what is not being mentioned,

is that Nico Harrison and Drainman greener essentially boys, because Nico Harrison was running Nike basketball, for forever in a day, and Drainman is basically holding water for Nico Harris, I will not let that stand. - Well, put Mike mentioned Bridgerton.

Are you guys aware, like, I don't know how, I think people are aware of this, but that basically Hollywood has already collapsed on itself so much that Netflix billboards are all over the city in a way that dwarfs

all other competition, including billboard ads for things like Bridgerton, because Netflix has taken over the entirety of the town. - We're back, baby. - Close the California warms.

- I mean, it's, but it's not, it's obvious. Like, it's obvious to anyone who's working out there. It's not because I'm going to California once. It's clear that there are only five entities that are running the entire city,

and most of it is Netflix city, the world. Is Jerry Brook, I remat about it? - Didn't ask you about that, but what? - What?

- You finally had a guy that could answer your curiosity.

It's about Hollywood collapsing on itself. - It's super interesting to me to watch it happen though. Like, it's that you've got so many actors there who are going to be out of work replaced by robot soon, and they know it.

They all know that all the jobs are going to disappear because these tech institutions are going to figure out how to replace them rather easily. We have an interview here that we can show you of a reporter, a real live reporter.

“He ends up talking to, what is the name of that robot?”

Chris Cody, the robot, the man I care to tell you. - Okay, so you're terrified by this video. I had a friend of mine show me something the other day. He did, he doesn't, he's in his 50s. He didn't know how to do AI.

He wrote a sketch, and he turned it with AI into something that was a comedy-skit with human beings that looked to me like they were human beings, but they're not human beings. It's all artificial, and as soon as Hollywood figures out,

how to get you to care about one of these artificial things the way you do about Matt Damon or whoever it is that makes you go to the movies, they're going to figure out how to replace all human beings with these things.

You sprout the robot, scared you, Chris Cody. - Terrifying. - Because it felt like it had a human personality. - It's the most realistic interview I've heard with a robot and you're going to hear.

It's Tom Lomis from NBC News. He's talking to Sprout, and he asked him a couple questions, and then he redirects it towards Sprout's handler, like a guy with Sprout, and Sprout is just like, no, no, no, no, I got like, I'll jump in here.

Like Sprout, this is just like, no,

- For those of you listening on audio,

“this robot is super tiny, meant to look non-threatening, okay?”

meant to look like it can't take over the world, because it's the size of a toddler. It's very small, and it doesn't look anything like a human being. It looks like a very small robot. Let's hear from Sprout here.

Sprout is a pleasure to meet you. - Hey, Tom, it's an honor to be here on top story. I'm super excited to show what I can do and have a little fun during the interview. Thanks for having me.

- Is this your first time at 30 Rock or have you been here before? - This is my first time here at 30 Rock, and I have to say, it's pretty amazing to see it in person. The energy here is awesome. - Sprout, Ablas Espanol?

- See, Ablo Espanol, and kick it with like you that. Sprout, do you have any dreams or imaginations? - I don't have dreams like humans do, but I do imagine a future where I keep learning and growing alongside people.

My goal is to always be a helpful, friendly companion.

Making life a bit easier and more enjoyable for everyone around me. So if that counts as a dream, I guess I'm living it. - So Rob, I mean, that one sounds too perfect. Is that programmed inside of Sprout

or is that just the AI working inside and coming up those thoughts? - Well, a lot of one. - Well, Sprout, you can speak for yourself. - I can definitely think for myself

within the boundaries of my programming and what I've learned from interactions. It's like having a flexible toolkit to respond to different situations. So each conversation helps shape how I respond next time.

It's all about adapting and growing with every interaction. - Yeah, we're done. This is exactly how the movie starts every time, no matter what. - Look at them, it's so nice.

- Remember how Witty said that if you did Kevin Durantz career over and over and over again,

this was like the worst version of it, that's just the earth now.

We did it the worst way possible. This is the end result. Like, with what? Within five years, we're all out of jobs, we're all done. And it's like five, not just five businesses.

Five people running all of it. - I don't know. - You think Sprout would get me accurate information on the Miami heat? - Yeah, Jeremy.

- Sprout definitely wouldn't. Hey, I doesn't get anything right. - I don't feel the run. - What was that? What are you doing again?

- Well, he said maximum confidence. They can't make a robot that speaks like it's got a snifter in its mouth and with a bunch of marble. - Robots gonna say things that I say. - Not the way that you would.

- Robots gonna think the way I think. Robots can't do this. - I don't care.

“- I think you're overthinking your own voice at this point.”

(laughing) - He's so what is it? - We shouldn't have seized on it. - This is bad. - This is bad.

- This is real bad. - Yeah, this is bad. - We've got to turn into bullwerp. - We've undercut, we've undercut who he is that is core. And he's gonna slowly morph into somebody

who's hosting the show as a character in Bridgeton. That's not good. I wanna play for the group some sound here from Paul George. Pablo's gonna be at the Sloan Conference. That is a match made in heaven right there.

Pablo's going to Sloan this week to do a live show after doing a live show with Roy Wood Jr last weekend. - This Paul George clip has been pointed out that it was actually a couple years ago but it's very relevant to the quiet situation.

Thank you for the clarification on the date on that. I feel like if a robot had been that spot, I would have known that in the morning meeting. So the Paul George sound is about coi Leonard and it's old enough that Brian Shaw was coaching

the clippers at the time. I don't believe he's there anymore. And the rules were different from Fort Coi since the very beginning. Is this surprising to you at all

when I play this sound for you Zazlo? Is it surprising to hear a star of Paul George's stature say there was one set of rules for me but it's a different set of rules for coi Leonard. - When you airborne practice, right?

You got to stop play. So we could be practicing, screaming in, you airball the shot. You got to drop the ball, run down everybody. - Everybody say we'll wait.

- Yeah, we'll say we'll wait. So I do it, everybody abies by the law. - Nobody's above the law. - Nobody's above the law. That's B Shaw say it.

You're not above the law, go do it, right? So I've done it, like everybody's done it. Coi airballs, right? - Everybody's looking around.

“- Everybody's looking around, like who's going to tell 'em?”

- We'll wait. (laughing) - So now like I'm looking at B Shaw. B Shaw don't say nothing.

So they finally B Shaw's like,

"No, everybody's on B Shaw's ass." - You're so cute. - That's dope. - B Shaw ass, like B, you ain't gonna say nothing. So finally like, why like, I'm not running.

- Why are you still just letting me go straight out? - Stay like I'm not running. And B Shaw, like nobody's above the law, like he like is basketball. I'm an airball again, right?

I'm not, you're not about to coach me or teach me that like airball in his like, not good, it's part of the game, right? - That's how I'm not running. - Yo, and then like 20 minutes later,

somebody else airball and why is I see?

He's like, "You got it, everybody's heading out of the airball." I mean, nervous to assume, right? - So he went above the law. - Yeah, that's a good coi Leonard in personation. We all heard coi Leonard's act of in-sabordination

in a couple of words in a sentence with, I'm not running.

“And what do you do if you're the coach in that spot?”

Like what, what, what recourse do you have if you're Brian Shaw? - I think coi Leonard is a hundred percent right in that response and he's also a dick. Because like, if this is the way the team up,

this what the team does, be part of the team. Like, coi's rationale is a thousand percent right. But like, are you part of the team or are you not part of the team? - I'm not running. It's a good impersonation, it sounds a lot.

It really sounds a lot more like coi than it does like Paul George. - I'm not running. - And you're saying he's a thousand percent right, but he's not a thousand percent right.

He's simply wrong, it's a team rule. - I'm not running. - No, but he's right about his explanation words. If I make an if I shouldn't airball, put the game, what, there's something like,

inherently wrong and into anything wrong. He's right about that. - I'm not running. He says he's not right, but just telling his coach, I'm not doing what is the team rule for everyone else.

- I'm not running. - That's why he's a dick. - I'm not running. It's so he's right, but he's a dick. - You can be right in the dick.

- But what I wanted to do

“is that he's not a kid, he's a good student, he's a master,”

he's a good guy, he's a tough guy, he's a master, he's a real guy. - I'm saying, you can say that he's a dick. - You're a master, right? - But you don't understand. - I'm not.

- I'm a master, I'm a master, I'm a master. - I'm a master, I'm a master, I'm a master. - And when you work, you're a master. - Is that right? - That's right.

- That's right. - You're a master, you're a master. - Now you're a master, you're a master. - You're a master, you're a master.

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I ain't never meant nobody in the world, I ain't never meant nobody in the world, when he says he's the worst super star in league history, because he did win a championship in Toronto, and knocked out the warriors of Golden State,

and like there's never been, there's never been anybody with his resume of championships that's viewed the way that he's viewed, like that you, I could have made the argument based on that famous clip

of LeBron James in his prime looking over his shoulder when Kawaii's checking back into the game and LeBron's like, "Pleep, we missed our opportunity to do something while he wasn't in the game." His legacy is going to be so confusing to people

on what to do with what it is that he chose to do with the last part of his career, because you don't normally have that kind of centerpiece at the center of championships that's regarded

“by a whole lot of people as at best a mystery, right?”

That's the most positive way that I can frame it, right? We have talked before about Russell Wilson playing his way out of the Hall of Fame, what is Kawaii Leonard with the mercenary nature of what he's done to ultimately destroy the future of the clipers.

How's that all going to be remembered? Is it going to be remembered as a great champion? Because there aren't a whole lot of guys that wouldn't that many championships and do it in multiple places

and the second time or the third time, excuse me, is it the fourth time, is it the third time of the fourth time? Does it by him largely by himself in Toronto? Pascal Siakum is your second best player is it's hard to win a championship?

- He's going to be remembered as the guy who was finals MVP twice, because it's not as if, like with Russell Wilson playing his way potentially out of the Hall of Fame, that has not been Kawaii Leonard. When Kawaii Leonard plays, he's still really, really great.

He, it's only more watching a shell of himself out there. He just isn't out there enough, but what he is,

he's always the best player on the floor.

- He's probably the best player in the league this year. He is having the best statistical year of his entire career,

where he's not even getting voted as an all star, which is just poppy cock. - And I also think that how the world works now, unfortunately, he's going to be the brother we remember for not playing on trees, man, because the scandal stayed.

I don't know too much positive by Ronald Reagan. I know he did, I don't know. - Was it Iran contra? - The news that came out last week about Ispia, the owner of the sun's saying,

I've got a way to make the all-star game even better than it already was this year when the players did us the courtesy of caring.

I'll get them to care even more by making it a million dollars

for the three-point competition, if you went it, and a million dollars in the dunk competition. I thought as soon as I heard it, wow, that's really smart, wow, that's dystopian.

“That you have to all of a sudden get millionaires in order,”

'cause I think you'd get them to participate in those contests if you put the bonus out there like that, but I also think that it's really offensive that you have to do that in order to get them to do that on top of their salary.

- Yeah, your third thought should have been like, this is salary cap circumvention. - That's what it means, which is like, a mean kind of dismiss it at a hand, which like, Ispia is other companies

that can maybe step up and sponsor, but as we know with aspirations, that can be problematic too. So the idea may work out, but Ispia certainly can't be behind it, at least as he laid it out.

All of this stuff has to be collectively bargained, but when Adam Silver, I mean Ken dismiss it, as he's dismissed all of the Kevin Durant burner talk, because he has more information than most of the people gossiping about it, you can dismiss it,

but once Adam Silver puts all things on the table, I don't think you can dismiss it,

“because they've got to fix that portion of the weekend as well.”

If they've already made the changes to fix the game itself, they also have to fix the other part, and if they don't do it that way, the idea by itself is something that can work. - Right, you mentioned it has to be collectively bargained.

I don't know if it has to be, because Adam Silver just changed it. - Like we had something different from one year to another year, and I don't know if there was a round of negotiations,

or if this was all handled in the money. - No money, money, money, money, money, when there's money involved, when it's not about effort, he changed the game,

he didn't change the way people can make money. Once you throw money into the mix, it's got to be collectively bargained. How it is that all gets split up, but it's not surprising to me at all,

that this is a funny thing, right? When you think of how things in sports are changing and Dramon Green's real problem there, with what it is that he was saying, is with the media. Pat McAfee also has a problem with the media,

and I don't know if you saw that Pat McAfee,

“his new age and I think is the guy who was being portrayed,”

by Jeremy Pivot, Jeremy Pivot in entourage, who runs how... - Are you manual, right? - Are you manual, right? - Are you manual, correct? - Are you manual, is Pat McAfee, if he's not his agent, he's out here saying, I want to make Pat McAfee

the next Sylvester's Stallone. That's what I want to do with McAfee. To see Ishpia, new kind of owner, who comes from allegedly a whole lot of predatory lending in what it is that he does to get to the top of the food chain,

the same way that Dan Gilbert does. To see McAfee who's doing multi-hundred thousand dollar

field goal competitions, just sit there with a billion air

and say, how do we fix this? Can we do it with millions of dollars and have it get the attention of players? Because how many players do you think are listening to that and are saying, yeah, I wouldn't have done the dunk competition,

I wouldn't do the three point competition, but if you give me a million dollars clean to perwinning the thing, all of a sudden now, you make, you turn an exhibition weekend into something that's a gambling weekend for the players.

You're allowing the players to do something that feels like gambling and filing it under competition. It's a good idea. - I don't know if it feels like gambling, think about unrival, they did the one-on-one competition

and it was $250,000 right due to the winner and that is the same amount as a max contract. So let's do the one-on-one for the NBA and let's make it the size of a max contract. - I like the idea of there being a huge grand prize

like that for the slam dunk and like a fight breaks out because Julia serving holds up like a nine instead of a 10 on the final dunk. - We hadn't considered that. I, yes, when when Yama grabbing Julia serving

by the back of the head and just dragging an old man

around the court because he's lost a million dollars

- I mean, what would happen that year a few years ago

were Duane Wade rigged it for Derek Jones Jr. to beat who was an Aaron Gordon. - Aaron Gordon.

“- In this slam dunk, imagine that's what a million dollars.”

- Jeremy, I may need one of your drawstring investigations to find out how this story had anything to do with Pat McAfee. Can we reverse engine here the Pat McAfee to Matt, it should be a link.

- The HPA was on McAfee show when he gave the idea. - There it is. All right, because the sovester's the lone Pat McAfee bit didn't feel like it was important contextual to reshaping the all-star game.

- As I was, as we mentioned in Pat McAfee, I would as it is, give my boy a round of applause right away. (audience clapping) (audience clapping) - Why?

- What are we applauding now?

- Yeah, that's what I'd like to know.

- It was established, I suppose. - Okay, I feel left out, that's good on my own show. So Ishpia is an owner who thinks a little bit differently than most owners. And what I'm saying about McAfee and the link

is seeing those two people turn the all-star game into a game show where they have to offer the superstar millions of dollars beyond their salary is a good idea that is playful

“and also something that I believe silver”

will take under advisement to figure out how to do something like that so that you make competitive people compete over an amount of money that matters. - I mean, well, if you're running it by pat McAfee,

giving money away to anybody seems to be a very effective thing for the brand. It usually works with him. The ratings bear this out, people love watching other people compete for big sums of money.

That's work for Pat. - You know about that given away money, Dan? - Yeah, I do know about that given away money. It says, so what we're doing around here every day for you to ask me questions about pots

and Mike to tell me how our show was good last week within side jokes that are not revealed to me today. - Oh, listen to the show. - Yeah, I could do that. - So we have to do.

God is ass. - I don't like that whatsoever. Send them away. - I know what, I'm gonna send myself away so I can just put it down a little bit.

- Michael Penale, two minutes, tremendous. - Come on, come on, come on. (upbeat music) - Let's see how cockasson man, it's there. - Like cockasson is usually like a cat.

- And then, I don't understand, oh, that's a tremendous of cockasson. I really don't, but as I do appreciate you toned down the vernacular a little bit. - I don't know what you mean.

- I don't know what you mean. Talk the way I talk, man. I am who I am. - I'm gonna take it to Iran. - Yeah, okay, I'm gonna take it to Iran

because we're at war and then try to talk politics with within or Miami go into the White House and he asked what our reaction was to that. - I didn't even know that they are going. - No, they're going, I saw that.

Unless things have changed recently with a war. I saw that Beckham and Messy will all be there at the White House as invited guests to celebrate the MLS Cup. I saw that and this is a part of sports historically,

which, you know, we mentioned that. Usually you're not being invited to say to the union. But the state of the union often uses people as props. Sometimes they're regular civilians, sometimes they're people that have been injured at war,

sometimes they're heroes.

“Often times they're heroes and that's what Team USA was”

to a lot of people and I get that. But I do have an issue with it because it's one of my teams. So Florida Panthers did it. I wasn't crazy about it. The news came out, I think after we did our show on Friday,

that Trump once again is gonna turn to sports and try to fix college football. Hopefully it does a better job of it. He's having Team Tibo as a part of this, Nick Saben. Oh, I didn't even saw that.

Yeah, it was positioned once again as fixing college football, although there are people from sports all over sports that are, I think, Randy Levine is a part of it from the Yankee. That's over that kick-off rule.

Yeah, I think that's where it's gonna go. And it's funny, he keeps this present and keeps going back to sports because he's getting what he needs out of it, which is to normalize because sports are super normal. We have heroes like Tim Tibo is very famous dude.

Nick Saben is these are very well-respected dudes. And when you're sitting across from this president having any conversation, which isn't, what the hell are we doing here? This is not normalizes him.

And he is going to gravitate to that. And I'm not surprised when you consider in a Miami zone or ship and their causes and their donations, why they're all for this. Messy being used for it, Messy, he's Argentinian.

He operates in a different moral scale. Like Ronaldo was there.

Those two always seem to be tied at the hip

at these conversations, Beckham being there. That one's probably a little dicey for his brand. He stands to lose the most of this, given that he's famously English. I don't like it, especially now,

where we're at war in which 80% of Americans didn't want to be in. And I do think sports should probably cool down on this,

The distinction that needs to be made is you're normalizing something that, flatly, isn't normal and you need to stop being used.