DSR Daily Live with Special Guest Mary Trump!

But the whole time you guys who are out there can also shoot in your questions, Riley will track those, I'll track those, Mary will track those, so we'll try to answer those, we'll do this for about 45 or 50 minutes, and we'll be the best time you have all day. Say, say, say, okay, so Riley, Riley. All right, well, fresh pressures on you, buddy. I'm going to get us started with a great story, and I'm starting us with the breaking news for today, and that is a very, not so good jobs report that came out today.

The US economy unexpectedly lost 23,000 jobs in July, signaling a clear slowdown in the labor market. The unemployment rate added down to 4.1%, and the decline was largely driven by a shrinking labor force as participation felt with its lowest level in over five years.

stagnant wage growth combined with the week payroll data, reduced expectations for an imminent federal reserve interest rate hike, sparking a rally in stock futures.

“Yeah, well, you know, I mean, are you surprised, Mary, that the economy sucks?”

I think Joe Biden has a lot to answer for you. Oh, my god, they didn't cut that Trump part out of your brain that says that to everything Jesus.

No, I mean, how could we be surprised that we between the egregious and stupid tariffs and this war of choice and Iran?

It shouldn't surprise anybody, but I think what's most most infuriating about any any of these jobs reports we've been getting, which have been anemic to terrible. The complete inability of mainstream media to remember how they used to talk about jobs reports when it was Biden, you know, not basically making it sound like Donald adding 100,000 jobs was fantastic, but when Biden added a million, it was not so great. It's just so the double standards just continue to drive me up a wall, but now we shouldn't be surprised and I would like to think at some point this is going to be blamed on the current administration.

By the way, I like one of our listeners here said JFK is the problem and I like somebody is willing to go back in history and blame some completely James K Polk is responsible for this. The other thing I think I watched the CNBC delivery of this and it was kuku, absolutely kuku because he was like, oh my god, oh my god, buckle up everybody the world is ending.

“As if they didn't expect this and then you had Kevin Hassett come out from the White House and say, well see here's the thing where there was a bad leader and so the teachers were kept on an extra month.”

And so this is the teacher is coming off of them and he just spewing bullshit, but there were a couple other things in here that you should know this and one is they revised downward. Right ask bad results by 100,000 and the other thing that you should keep in mind, I just think, I mean, you may not agree with me, is that they lie. I don't believe any statistics that come out from these guys. That's intentional, they told us that they were going to stop collecting data or sharing data, so there's no reason to believe any of them, but that also gives me flashbacks because with Biden jobs reports were always revised up like we'd find out two months later, oh actually two months ago we added 500,000 more jobs than we thought we did, but we never he never got credit for that and now we're seeing the same thing in reverse and it's just incredible everything.

“That is being brought to bear to kind of minimizing impact of these really horrific horrific jobs numbers, which can be directly tied to policies, if you can call them that that Donald and his incompetent team are putting a place.”

Well, as Cindy, one of our viewers here just said, thanks Obama, thanks Obama, that's that's who I'm blaming this on let's move on, let's see what else we can blame on somebody else.

Well, I'm not sure how much we can blame this one on anybody else because our president has signed two executive orders aimed at curtailing birthright citizenship, which he's never tried that before.

Andrew Jackson is at it again. Yes, yes, he is back. This time he's targeting a birth tourism in quotations and children of foreign government employees, the action seeks to reinterpret constitutional acceptance.

Legal experts and civil rights advocates and everyone else anticipate swift court challenges arguing the new directives aren't attempted to circumvent the Supreme Court's ruling.

“You know, I've done a little research on this, Mary, and here's the thing, and I know this is going to be a real shocker to you, but actually birth tourism is a real thing.”

First of all, it's not statistically tracked. Secondly, the estimates of how many people, by the way, in their ninth month of pregnancy, you know, decide let's go and fight in Miami. But how many people do this is is is I just a handful. It actually is is just it's completely, it's like voter fraud. I was just thinking the same thing. It's like voter fraud vanishingly tiny number of cases. Yeah, it's not real, but but the thing is that Fox and and, you know, news nation and the Lindell, you know, TV network, they all are going to go out and say, oh yeah, we got to be a careful of this because this, you know, those Haitians who are eating the cats and dogs sometimes, you know, have a baby.

This, it's, it's, it's absolutely crazy, but here's the thing, here's some good news. It's not going to work because the constitution is pretty explicit on this point.

They've already lost once. And, and, you know, I think, you know, maybe as a, as a psychologist, you can provide us with a perspective. What do you do with a child who won't take, you know, follow instructions to it doesn't understand the word no. When that child is present because same thing happened with tariffs, right? Yeah, they, they said, you can't do this and he said, well, okay, I'm going to do it anyway. And he's now launched these other tariffs, which are super dopey. It's based on forced labor or something in 80 countries. It's completely made up and and the same is true here. He's just making this up.

“And I, you know, I think this is a trend where this administration is going to increasingly ignore the courts. What do you think?”

Oh, I mean, that's the pattern and that's kind of the play because courts are pushing back. So without any enforcement mechanism, why do they need to bother? They've proven themselves to be completely willing to operate outside the rule of law, which they're actively trying to destroy. Thank you Todd Blanch. And as for, you know, saying no, it does backfire because it, it makes Donald double down, triple down, etc. But the problem we have is that appeasement doesn't work either. So as long as people like Steven Miller are getting what they want, they're going to continue to manipulate Donald to do it. This wasn't his idea. This is Steven Miller.

This is, it's Donald really having ideas these days. I mean, his brain doesn't seem to be functioning so well. I don't know what you thought of his new wig, which, which I thought was very, very fetching. Well, I heard me the dentist from Rudolf Dreddo's ranger called and he wants it back. He wants that. Because I was suggesting Riley might look really nice with a little.

“No, I think I think Trump should fall in my foot steps and just, you know, shave it and go.”

I agree. But I think I think it would look much better. Quick fun story.

My grandfather had a receding hairline from the time he was 15. He's always very self-conscious, but you know, he lived well into his 80s with his receding hairline.

I mean, he still had hair. He wasn't bald or anything. He looked fine, but as his Alzheimer's increased and he started losing touch with the reality, he actually got a 2P. It really bad 2P. So, wait, you're saying bad 2P is running in the family. There's a genetic link between bad 2P.

Apparently, they're because when I saw that, I was like, "Oh my God, that's my grandpa." Well, how do you explain his mother's hair? I do explain his mother's hair. Well, we are not a family known for self-awareness. Yeah, but your hair looks perfectly normal. What happened?

I was found under a wall. That's that's that's that's that's obviously it. And we're glad you were. So what else? What else you got there?

Well, looking at some of the big stories the week after it's $32 million primary campaign failed

to prevent Dr. Abdul Elsaid from winning Michigan's Democratic Senate nomination,

Driven by concerns over Elsaid's platform to cut off U.S. funding Israel, the group and its major donors appear willing to pour tens of millions of dollars into defeating him in November.

Directly funding and Republican candidate and crucial swing state general election

would mark an extraordinary shift for the historically bipartisan organization.

“Historically bipartisan, what right, who writes your shift?”

New York Times. New York Times. Well, that has been New York Times character. Oh, my God. Beautiful. And first of all, there's a single party that is liquid.

And anybody who supports liquid does support. You know, they don't care about this Democratic party. But before I say anything here that has me, the son of a holocaust survivor, being accused of being anti-Semitic, you go first, Mary, and you be anti-Semitic first. If you're enjoying this episode and want to get even more out of the DSR network,

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To get your 20% off, go to DSR network.substack.com/August26. That's DSR network.substack.com/August26. Thank you, David. That's a story kind of thing. Yeah, that's a story.

Well, let's be clear, everybody. Not supporting Israel's government, which is currently led by Netanyahu. It's not being anti-Semitic. It's actually caring about what happens to Israel in the future.

“I think Netanyahu is the worst thing to happen.”

Israel just as Donald Trump is the worst thing to happen to America. And if you actually love something, you do not love it unconditionally. You need to have standards and you need to help rate in people's and country's worst impulses.

So this is insane, and it reminds me of what's third way is tried to pull.

Oh my god. You're really trying to trigger me here. Sorry, sorry. You're trying to trigger me here, Mary. She's referring to an article that occurred yesterday in the New York Times,

in which they with one of these misleading headlines suggested moderates everywhere. We're going to go and run a campaign against the progressives who they were framing as socialists. And of course, it wasn't that. It was a conversation with some folks from third way who are using this as a way for them to raise money. And for these people whose political point of view was relevant in the 1990s.

And I was there. I was in the Clinton administration. I was kind of a new Democrat guy until I realized how much it was fucking up the country. Yeah, but they're just trying to appear relevant in this whole thing. But you know, who really threw them a curveball yesterday. And I have to say, I loved every minute of it.

Was after Dr. Elsayed one within minutes within minutes. Mallory MacMoro stepped up and said, I'm with him. That's really Stephen stepped up and said, I'm with him. Gretchen Whitmer stepped up and said, I'm with him. Alyssa Slotkin stepped up.

All the Democrats of Michigan came together and said, we're in this together. We've got to win. And it was beautiful. Yeah, I didn't see that article in the New York Times yesterday saying, Democrats in array.

No, no, because you never see that headline ever.

“And I think it's it's really important to point out to anybody.”

Because it's it quotes the president of third-way saying, we're at war with whom? With the fascists who were destroying our country and our democracy? No, no, with the progressives and democratic socialist. Like that's the choice they're making. And it needs to be seen as the cynical power grab that it actually is.

Cause it's disgraceful. And another instance in which corporate mainstream media is failing us miserably. I was on the board of one of these sort of moderate organizations. For reasons I do not know. And every board meeting I went to they blamed everything on the progressives.

And since I feel I'm a progressive, I was like, that's not fair.

And the people who are destroying our country and the world

and not focus all of our attention on AOC who makes us wet our beds in the middle of the night. And they wouldn't change it so I quit. Wow, you know, because it's just that there is this whole weird thing going on. But, you know, if you listened to Dr. Elsayed, you heard a guy who gets it who's trying to build a coalition. And, you know, if I were to describe him as a candidate to you

and say, well, you know, he has got his medical degree from Columbia. He got a doctorate from Oxford. He was a Rhodes scholar. He was a public health official. He wants everybody to have health care in a decent retirement. He wants the roads to be paved. You would, there would be nothing. There would be not a peep without him.

But because he's a Muslim, people are freaking out because his name is Muslim. People are freaking out.

And then you have the, the APAC crowd who, I mean, I am, I'm not a journalist.

You know, I've, like, edited some magazines and things and every once in a while, people accuse me of that. But journalism's a real hard profession where you,

“I like write opinion pieces, but you, you have to, like, get facts and follow a discipline.”

But, but I tell you what you don't do in journalism. You don't use the wrong words. That's why people go to a journalism school. And so when they talk, and this is just picking up on your point, about APAC, and they call it a pro-Israel organization, that's bullshit. Okay, it's pro-Netnya.

So if you were truly pro-Israel, you'd be anti-Netnya who. You'd be pro-democracy. You'd be pro-assolution. You'd be pro, frankly, if you're believing in a Jewish state in Jewish values, that there is nothing pro-Israel about groups like APAC or other groups that have drifted into the partisan direction like that, like the ADL.

What? Absolutely. I mean, I'm sorry, I've been triggered. Well, it's triggering, because it should be so blatantly obvious, but clearly it's still not to the New York Times. Yeah, no, it's well, the New York Times, and that, but well,

perhaps Riley is a story from a different source. Sure, Riley can be a mouthpiece for some other legacy media students.

“That's all being fair and balanced, David. That's what we're all about here.”

It's the best of nowhere. Ouch. Okay, buddy. Well, let's give the impression that only the Democrats are fighting each other. The GOP is also added as well, because representative Max Miller is facing a mounting pressure from fellow Republicans to resign and drop his reelection campaign, amid domestic abuse allegations from his ex-wife.

Party figures, including Ohio Center is John Hustard, and Bernie Morano, who, as a matter of fact, is Miller's former father-in-law, and the father of the woman alleging abuse by Miller, who only spoke out about that abuse last week. Yeah, no kidding.

Well, I guess maybe better late than never.

He's now urging him to step aside for his family's well-being, and to avoid risking the party's house majority, I think that is probably the more key part that they are worried about. That's all they care about. Yeah, so I took him so long.

Yeah, because they don't want to get rid of these. They, when people commit sex crimes or corruption or whatever, or they die when they appear to die, they don't move them out of the office, right? I mean, we've had examples of a guy just disappearing,

because he was having mental issues. We had an example of a woman who went into hospice care because of her dementia. We have an example of Mitch McConnell, who knows where Mitch McConnell is,

and we have an example of all these people. And they're just so interested in cleaning to power that they just don't have any standards. They don't care about anything. No, and look at the vehements with which they went out after a grant platter,

and tried to paint the whole Democratic Party

“as enabling this guy when I think as soon as”

I think it should have happened sooner. Obviously, I think Nazi tattoo is a deal breaker for me, but when the very credible allegations against him came out every Democrat immediately, called on him to step down.

And the Republicans, because they're only interested in their own power,

And I think one of the reasons it took longer than it certainly should have is because he's Donald's guy. Donald is not demanding he stepped down, and Donald, in fact, said publicly that he feels bad for the abused wife and child.

No, he feels bad for Max Miller. Well, I mean, yeah.

First of all, Max Miller is a Donald Trump guy.

He was worked in the White House. He was a January 6 guy. He was really deep into the weeds of maga. But if you're a sex abuser, what does maga do?

They defend you. They promote you. They, you know. And I don't know, Riley, do you have a story about anybody whose whole entire job it is to protect sex abusers?

Sure do. And guess what? That's what we get. That's how we do it. That could be, I mean, to be fair,

that could be a setup for any number of stories.

“But yeah, well, I, that was that's why I chose crazy.”

That way.

But let's just assume it's a reference to Todd Blanche.

Yep. Senator Bill Cassidy announced he will vote to confirm Todd Blanche as attorney general effectively securing the nomination of despite a narrow Republican Senate majority in the absence of Senator Mitch McConnell.

Cassidy's support overcomes opposition from a fellow senator is Lisa McCowski and Susan Collins who voted against over concerns regarding the politicization of the justice department. Blanche's path to confirmation falls intense scrutiny from lawmakers

over his handling of the Epstein files and the controversial anti-weaponization fund. Seems disqualifying to me, but not to most of the GOP. Well, you know, Mary, here's another one of these things journalists do that really trigger me, but, but you're better adjusted

and probably more highly medicated. Okay. Okay. No. But like, I was looking at, you know, I was on blue sky

because I don't do Twitter. You know, I was on blue sky and I was looking at the responses and everybody's like Cassidy has no spine. Cassidy has a cow or Cassidy. No, he's not.

This is what he does. This is what they all do. They know he knows. This is a choice. I am voting to suppress the Epstein files.

I am voting to attack Donald Trump's enemies. I am voting to promote corruption in the United States government. Who knows? Maybe I'll get a little piece of it after I leave office. I am voting to obstruct justice to defend Donald Trump.

This is a deliberate choice. It's not cowardice. It's vinyl. It's immoral, but it's not spineless. It's it's it's Craven.

It's a choice. Yeah. It's Calculate. And I think.

“And remember, Bill Cassidy is largely responsible for giving us”

Kennedy, who's going to kill God knows how many people as including children. And Bill Cassidy is a medical doctor. They all know better without a doubt. And you could ask, well,

I tell us in court, and Donald ended their political careers. I mean, they could have been senators for another 20 years,

basically go in the Senate.

Well, no, until 20 years after they died, possibly. Good point, Mitch McConnell is our new bar for that. So what is there to be afraid of? Clearly, these are guys who just want to be able to cash in afterwards. And I think this, first of all, putting blanche in as attorney general

of the United States is, is the last nail in the D.A.J. is confident it's so despicable, it's heartbreaking. And there were so many other reasons beyond the Epstein files, beyond the slush fund that proved he was unqualified. And yet, Coran, until they could have ended doing one right thing.

Instead of giving cover to Susan Collins in her bid to get real elected. But that's a point, by the way, because somebody up here said, I don't understand the Collins thing. She was, she went to Jonathan, and she said, I would like to be able to vote against this.

Do we have enough votes?

“And you have to understand how this is working.”

She would not have said she was voting against it if they didn't have enough votes. She was even permission because they want her to stay in the Senate. But she, you know, again, she is complicit in this whole thing when she says she's concerned or whatever, it's a lie. I mean, yeah, it's a lie.

Yeah, same thing with her vote taken from Capitol. And so anyway, the last point is simply that this is, this is yet more evidence that there needs to be a statute, not a statute of limitations.

They cannot get on the boards of Fortune 500 companies. They cannot become talking heads on Fox or what have you. Because otherwise, people view becoming a senator or becoming a representative as a springboard into becoming wealthier. And, you know, just look at how people's wealth increases while they're in office.

And it's not about civil servants service anymore. Yeah, I saw a damn Crenshaw today who came into the Congress with no money.

There's now worth $1.4 million saying that what people should do is eat ramen.

And sort of suck it up because he's all of a sudden become part of the rich crowd. But you make a really important point.

“I think, you know, as somebody who's lived in Washington for the past 30 years and watched out works,”

I just offer you one little insight. I think the culture of Washington has profoundly corrupt on many, many levels. And it's not, I mean Donald Trump has taken it to a new level with just overtly stealing or getting bribs or getting crypto flows or whatever. But the way it normally works in the way it's working right now for Cassidy.

I guarantee it is even though the law says he cannot until he leaves the Senate go and seek other work. Is he going to cocktail parties, he's going to country clubs, he's going around. And people are going, hey, Senator, why don't you talk to me after you're done.

Maybe there's something we could do for you here.

Or maybe there's, well, all of those people have political ties. And if he is seen as somebody who Donald Trump thinks is toxic, what look what happened with Paul Weish Riffkin, look what happens. But they're afraid that he's going to start pulling business. And so he uses the threat of pulling business in order to keep these people in line.

And these people keep people like Cassidy in line because they are his gravy train. And that is the circle of corruption. And it happens by the way at every level of government. You know, you could be the assistant secretary of whatever. You'd go to breakfast at the four seasons restaurant.

You run into somebody who runs a law firm or consulting firm or a tech company or something.

“This says, you know, when you get out, you know, I think we could do stuff together.”

We can't talk about it now. But by the way, that thing you're working on right now, I don't like that very much. And that is what changes the way Washington works and I don't think enough people understand it. Yeah. And you know, we see that very clearly with a certain Supreme Court justices.

It's everywhere. Yeah.

Well, I do who believe that they will never be judged and who can take bribes for anybody.

And, you know, it goes back to a point. When the Democrats take over the house, when the Democrats take over the Senate, when the Democrats win back the White House, whenever that may be, if you don't think structural reform is job number one, term limits for the Supreme Court, increasing the size of the Supreme Court,

looking to see if you can add a couple of states, looking to see what can be done on the electoral college, changing campaign finance laws.

“If you don't fix the structural imbalances that have given oligarchs and billionaires and millionaires,”

much more power in this process than we have, then we're never going to get anything else. Because we're, you know, this is not about saving democracy at this point. It's about restoring it. Absolutely. And I completely agree with you.

And if you are somebody who is not interested in making those kinds of fundamental necessary changes, go away. Just go away. Please. And don't waste our time.

You know, that is the kind of constructive view that we, I'd like to turn to you for. Please, go. My pleasure. There's a day. Do you have more stories for Israeli?

Okay. Well, let me, I'm surprised because Riley, you don't know this, Mary, but Riley is already wrong, more for his budget. And I, and I, and I regular basis, he tells us that nothing has changed there. I, I have a column coming out a little bit later today that I encourage you to go to,

which talks about the gigantic scandal that Pete Higgs's mismanagement of the Department of Defense has led to. And this, this specifically looking at the depletion of all of our munitions. And how this is going to, for a number of years, put us at risk. We did an episode of Deep State Radio on Wednesday with former Secretary of, the Air Force and a former policy planning person from DOD, in which we get this.

And if you haven't listened to it, I encourage you to listen to it. But if I can and the remain, excuse me, couple of minutes that we've got here with Mary. And of course, we'll be happy to take care of any questions you've got if you want to post them in the comments.

I mean, I'm encouraging.

You know, I want to encourage people that have a good weekend.

So I'd like to talk about something positive.

“And I think you're the person to talk to about it.”

It looks like the Democrats will win the House of Representatives. It looks like they have a chance to either narrow the Republican majority in the Senate or actually win the Senate. The, the polls are terrible for the Republicans. The economy's not going to get better. The war is not going to get better. And all the, all the factors that are going to turn this into a massive midterm defeat for Donald Trump are there.

And that to me is good news. My question for you, though, is how does he react to being emasculated, being shut down, not having relevance being elamed. This, this sort of sensing hurtling towards his own mortality. And you have multiple perspectives on that.

I was wondering what you thought.

I think it, it depends on where he is psychologically and cognitively at that point because he's, he's in, in the place of steady decline. And I don't think it's like rapid falling off a cliff to find. You know, it's, it's, uh, was it. Escot Fitzgerald character that happened just, uh, slowly that all it wants.

Yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's F Scott Fitzgerald.

“Yeah, and I think we're in the, oh no, no, it's not.”

I think it's, I think it's, Hemingway. I think, yes, yes, yes, I think it's, it's like you get bankrupt going back. Yes, yes, exactly. Yeah, it happens slowly than suddenly or slow. If you have people have tuned in for literary insights, this is the wrong place.

Despite, despite the fact that I was an English major. Yeah, I, I read Faulkner and Victorian literature. So you did. Hemingway and Fitzgerald not much. Oh, wow.

Anyway, one of those two American guys. Uh, so he's definitely in a period of steady decline. Um, and, okay, yes, some days that are better than others. And he has some, some awareness sometimes and none at all and others. But remember, he's surrounding himself or has surrounded himself with people who lie to him

or withhold information from him every single day. So I think it's very impossible.

He doesn't always know just how bad the poll numbers are.

He doesn't always know how bad the economy. Uh, the numbers of the economy are. It's, it has said or he doesn't really know what the American people think. You don't think Natalie, Natalie Arp is telling him every day.

“Uh, no, I think her job is literally the job.”

There's always been somebody in Donald's orbit whose job it was. You cut out articles that mentioned him positively and I'm not kidding. That goes back to the 80s. Uh, so, uh, that's, it's obviously that job is getting harder. Because it's, because they're pure, they're pure on it.

That's right. That's right. Um, but he's very protected and to be fair, he has done this on his own. He's entire adult life has been, uh, Expanding psychic energy to protect himself from the humiliation.

Oh, recognizing what a pathetic loser he is. You write himself. Yes, exactly. That's a better way of putting it. Yeah, and that's also getting harder because, um,

humiliation is the thing he most fears. And ever on a daily basis, he's not being humiliated by other people. He's being humiliated by himself. Uh, so it's very difficult for other people to protect him because he's the one doing it. He's the one making the egregiously stupid and competent decisions.

He's the one falling asleep in public. You know, how do you spin that? He's the one, uh, who is constantly speaking and saying incoherent things. Um, he's the one obsessing about his own failures, like the reflecting pool. But sometimes when people get dementia, this is your field.

Not my field, but sometimes when people get dementia, they also get angry. They get frustrated. They're like, they can't do what they used to do anymore. Uh, and so sometimes they lash out and they go, they, you know, they, they, they become a threat to themselves, a threat to the people around.

And do we have to worry about that with him? We do, actually, um, one because, uh, as you say, that is something that happens when people get dementia or Alzheimer's, uh, they lose their impulse control. They get angry even if they hadn't been before that to happen to my grandfather.

But, uh, he rarely got angry when he was fit because what was there to be angry about. He was in charge of everything. But I mean, it's Donald on that trajectory in your mind.

Yeah, but the problem is this, Donald has always had poor impulse control.

It's just getting worse. Donald has always responded with anger when he doesn't get his own. I mean, we saw 10 years ago how he's, he responded to journalists who had the audacity to ask fact-based, based questions he didn't like. It's just getting worse. And the other problem is, uh, he's actually in charge of, or, well, ostensibly, uh, in charge of things.

And he has a lot of power to do a lot of damage. So he won't just be lashing out at the person in front of him. He's lashing out at the country at the world. Uh, yeah, I was like in it. I just want to make it a little more, you know, help people to sort of feel it.

Like in it, to being on an airplane, which is being flown by a rabbit baboon. Uh, and we're all passengers on the airplane, uh, and the rabbit baboon is at the controls. So, you know, it has, it's not just that he's like throwing his shit at the window. It has an effect on the rest of us, too. Oh, absolutely. And, uh, I mean, I thought we were trying to make this positive.

But, yes, the, the, the, the plane is the United States of America. It's being flown by a rabbit baboon and, and all of the flight attendants who could help have decided to block our ability to get it. Well, they're trying to get what they're trying to catch in. Because we have a system in which the way that, you know,

if you are on the inside of maga, on the inside of the GOP, on the inside of sort of a establishment Washington. Um, and you can, uh, get some cash together and get some insider views and make some trades based on it. Or get a consulting contract and introduce somebody and know to somebody else, you know, you know, you know, you can make millions and millions and millions of dollars.

And that's why all these people come out of Washington. Uh, and you say, well, you are a public servant, you're making a hundred and forty thousand dollars a year or two hundred, whatever was. How is it that you're now worth 20, 30, 40, 50 million dollars? And so, you know, you ask yourself, well, why don't they do the right thing?

“Uh, and I think the answer is the right thing for whom?”

They think they're doing the right thing for their family, you know, they're, they're, they're ensuring that their grandkids can go to college.

Um, and, you know, and that's why corruption. I always say, you know,

I've talked to some people I know with just the best people, great Democrats. And I'll say, uh, oh, you can't, we can't hold them accountable. It, you know, if we start doing impeachment and that kind of thing, it'll be bad for us. But the reality is, if you don't hold them accountable, if you allow the corruption to continue, that is what leads to the perversion of the system.

It's what leads to the empowerment of oligarchs and billionaires and corporations. This is a vicious circle. And, and I don't think people fully appreciate that only through holding them accountable and, and cutting the vicious circle can we actually make progress? Yeah, it's such a good point.

And, uh, anybody who hasn't really has to go read David's piece of need to know, called a moral reckoning, it's really beautiful.

“I mean, it's a Legiac quite, quite honestly.”

And it gets, well, I did say it was an English major. And it shows. But I think it, it really identifies where we are in this moment and the path. How we got here, what we need to confront, reckon with in order to make the right choices going forward.

So we can change things fundamentally, as you said earlier. And I think it's, you know, in 2024, we talked about saving democracy.

The problem is nobody knows what that means.

So, you know, you had Republicans who said they were worried about the future of democracy and they voted for the fascists. So, clearly, that was the wrong conversation to be happening. I think, uh, as your piece really, again, beautifully, uh, states, and it really resonated me because I've been grappling with this issue, too,

is that we need to start asking who we are and who we want to be.

“And what do we need to do in order to become the country that we believe we should be?”

And that does require accountability. Accountability isn't solely about looking back. And I'm, you know, I'm so sick of that, uh, Obama mantra. Look forward, not back, right? Well, there's, there's the other Obama mantra, which is when they go low, we go high.

And I have to say, that didn't work.

I agree.

And accountability is part of that process.

And, you know, throwing some elbows to get accountability. And again, that is not backward looking. Accountability is about writing wrongs so that we can move forward in a different, a fundamentally different way. Yeah, absolutely right.

Now, we've just, we're sort of up to the, the, our time limit here. I just want to know if there's anybody out there's got any questions or anything that you'd like Mary to address, Riley to address, me to address. And while you're thinking about it, I'll just like, you know, that this week, we had a terrific show in the wake of the election with Wajahad Ali about, you know,

the victory and what it means for progressives. We did this great deep state radio on this huge crisis at the Department of Defense.

We did an excellent episode of Silicon consciousness.

Looking at Palantir and some of the terrible things that are happening in the sort of dark side of the world of AI. And, of course, we do our daily show and we also did the daily show for the new republic. So we've got a lot of stuff going on that you can go and listen to over the weekend. And, of course, we do this each and every week.

And, in fact, next week, a next Friday's show with us, one of Mary's buddies who is one of our regulars. Norm Ornstein is going to join the show. And Norm is deeply beloved for reasons I just don't understand. [laughter]

Norm is one of the loveliest, smartest guys. It's somebody that has asked, would it help for each of us to call Washington and say it up?

First of all, anything you do, any urge of energy you expend is helpful.

If you can donate money, donate money. If you can volunteer for a campaign, volunteer for a campaign. If you can talk to your neighbors and you know some who can't get to the polls and you can drive them to the polls, drive them to the polls. But say this, there are 88, 87 days left before the election.

This election is crucially important. You can only imagine how Trump will behave if he feels he has the backing of the Republican Congress for another two years. So, if we don't stop him, we are going to lose all these institutions.

“So, all you've got, the only thing that I would say to you is this.”

However, many minutes a day, you are spending focused on trying to ensure the elections have the right outcome. Wherever you are, if you can add 10 more minutes, 15 more minutes, a half an hour, an hour, do that. Even 15 minutes more, every single day between now and then,

you know, is going to make a difference. It's really just urge of energy. And somebody here says, I wish normal tell us what he really thinks. Yeah, that's, for those of you. Always pulling punches.

Yes, that was pulling. That's, that's a, that's a, got to be a words, better listener, because, because we, norm doesn't pull the punches. It's sometimes even gets knee-triggered. I'm very low-key and calm.

Anyway, it's, what does this, wouldn't say? I think this is rhetorical. It says, "Do Donald Trump's adults children know?"

“You know, that he's crazy or are they not allowed to commit it?”

They're all, they're all in on the grift, right? I mean, oh, my God. Could you imagine what Donnie and Eric would be doing if they didn't have the family money? Oh, my goodness gracious. No, they, I think they could be excellent.

I don't know. Graters. Well, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think that would be. Well, in any event, we, we track these things all the time. We talk to Mary on a regular basis.

I, I hope you will follow all the things that Mary is doing on her sort of media network. You kind of have a media empire at this point. And I know a lot of you are here because you do. And, you know, and please join us. You know, at Substack, we have two channels.

“We have the DSR network channel, which you should subscribe to.”

And we also have the need to know network, which is where. The things I write go and where we do some deep dives with newsmakers. And so you should subscribe to both of those. And also subscribe to follow the DSR network on YouTube, which is our fastest growing platform. Because Riley is extremely good looking.

So our other guests, I wear a mask. In any event, I would like to say, thank you very, very much, Mary. You have made my weekend.

Riley is going to move apartments starting later today.

Everybody sent condolences. Yeah. So, Riley. Sorry.

I hope it goes to me like.

Well planned. Well planned. No, no.

I've looked at the weather report.

“And I think you're going to get incredibly hot day, which will have periodic.”

Intense downpours and lightning. So it's. Or as you said yesterday, your collection of antique lightning routes. Anyway, good luck with that Riley. Good luck with the weekend, everybody.

“And we'll see at all of these various destinations online.”

Next week. Thanks. Bye-bye. Thank you. [MUSIC PLAYING]