DSR Daily Live with Special Guest Norm Ornstein!

Soup is not a good breakfast, however, whatever you may be saying.

“Soup is completely inappropriate for breakfast, and we're going to take tough stands on”

issues like that. It's a minute. It's a minute. Yeah. The library.

Yes. I am still in the library. Different location. This time. I'm not quite yesterday.

I was in like a fishbowl. There was windows all around me, so you like everyone could see me. Today, I'm in a little bit more private of a room, but somebody left a comment yesterday

“on our YouTube video saying serial is soup for breakfast, and I thought that was very smart.”

Oh, that's pretty clever. And I agree, Brahminus, that's an excellent post is good, every meal. And as you can see, we follow your comments, and we will leave them into our conversation here. Even now as we are waiting for norm to return, he seems to have gone off into the ether somewhere.

Man, you know, there's always somebody out there talking, "Now everybody, now we're

going to start a big craze for soup." It'll sweet the nation. It'll sweet the name. Well done. Kennedy had super breakfast, I just bet it's just a thing.

And look how he turned out. Alright, our first story for today, Iranian state media and hardliners have ridiculed President

“Trump following revelation that he secretly switched planes using a catering truck during”

a visit to Turkey. From the framing the incident as proof of U.S. fear and humiliation in the face of Iran's military power, the covert operation was triggered by a threat that Air Force one could be targeted by a shoulderfire missile alongside U.S. concern after a burning Iranian intelligence new Trump's exact hotel room.

While Iran, hardliners, celebrate the security breach as psychological revenge amid ongoing military conflict and high level tensions, official negotiations between the two nations to permanently angle hostilities remained stalled. You know, I mean, this was obviously one of the big stories of the week, but I don't think we are fully aware of just how big this story was.

Because it is not just a story about the fact that the President was up to some of school to agreed to go and protect himself, or that the President didn't defend himself against didn't look after other members of his team who were on the other plane. It's not even just a story about the fact that while the President says Iran is done and has said so several times this week and they have no capabilities.

The reality is that Iran obviously had sufficient capabilities to scare the crap out

of the President. I actually think the biggest part of this story, and I'm glad seeing Norm is back here, Norm can comment on this as well, is the fact that it reveals the President of the United States is chicken shit again. And it really shows what a low character guy he is.

I mean, not only is he was he running scared probably based on some Israeli intelligence that US intelligence doesn't actually believe was necessarily true, but he did so in a way that put people who were for him, put people in the press at risk, put people on the military group, the other plane at risk without telling them that. You know, the fact that the Iranians came out with a ledo video five seconds later, making

fun of him is, you know, is inevitable, but it runs contrary to Trump's image of, you know, himself during that butler shooting attempts standing up with his fist raised and trying to portray himself as this big, strong guy. He's not. He's not.

He is a coward. And if you doubt it, look at the pictures from last weekend when he was playing golf with a missile launcher behind him because he was afraid presumably of, you know, aerial attacks on his golf game. Anyway, Norm, you're back.

What do you think? You think he's a slice of American manhood? Let me talk a little bit about his psychopathic, you know, Joe Lockhart gave an interesting story the other day. And Clinton was president early on. He went to Pakistan when the tensions were enormously

high between Pakistan and India. We were afraid of a potential nuclear war. And the threats

We're going to show you getting on Air Force One. And then we're going to secret you

“out the back door and put you on another plane. And everybody else will fly on Air Force”

One. And Joe Lockhart told them, this is unacceptable. And so they came up with a different plan, which was to show him not getting on Air Force One, moving behind where there were three separate jets. They told the press and everybody else who would be on the other plane, what they were doing, so that they wouldn't put in jeopardy everybody else to protect the hide of the coward president. In this case, not a coward, just the case of Trump.

Trump didn't give a shit about the other people, including his cabinet members, Rubio

and Basant, including, of course, the press, a pool that was there and a number of his staff, as long as his ass was protected on the decoy plane. And it tells you even more about Donald Trump. Let us also note that when he was playing golf, he recently won another championship that he shot a two under par 70, 10 under his age. And we've had everybody who's ever played golf with him or who is an expert like Rick Riley saying, the odds of

that happening are a big fat zero. He is a cheater and a psychopath. So other than that, you just do it a great job. And of course, he's in the best physical shape of his life, except that Dick Cheney's doctor said, you know what, this guy's in deep trouble, physically. Yeah, well, it's true because every day he's got some new symptom, you know, they had swollen ankles than he had the thing in his hand. Recently, we've seen bruises up his arms.

And the thing that I find, you know, I find kind of striking. And this is what Dick Cheney's doctor was zeroing in on. He can't stay away. I mean, he literally cannot stay away. He doesn't do much anymore. They don't have him doing a lot of events. When they do send him to events, he sits in them for like 10 minutes and he falls asleep. And, you know, it happens dependably now. Every time people are used to talk around him, you know, and you know, every day we see some

“new image of him lurking forward. And I think Cheney's doctor, that was his point,”

is that shouldn't be happening in a healthy adult individual. I mean, we've expected some of our listeners, but not healthy adults, right, norm. You know, as somebody who's not quite that age, if I were falling asleep every 10 minutes, I would be going to Walter Reed and getting MRIs. Oh, wait, he is. Yeah, right, right. And 20, 22 specialists that every visit. But by the way, everybody's interested in your nose, norm. How is your nose doing?

I will tell you, uh, doctor you, uh, who is a dermatologist who does mows surgery. That's MOH, uh, apostrophe S named after a doctor, mow, who was able to deal with, uh, you know, cancerous things. Mine was a basal cell carcinoma on my nose from too much sudden. I will repeat for all those who were there on the last, uh, a conversation that we had. Don't go out in the sun without sunscreen, um, or you may pay a price for it.

And so the most surgery, where it's visible, instead of where it isn't where they just gouge it out, they take little slices one at a time, check them out under a microscope to make sure they got it all. So that when the band aids come off, you know, it teaches her out. I will, uh, once again, have those movie star looks. Now, I say movie star in that I look a little bit like Steve Buschemmi, not like, uh, carry.

Untrail. It's not true. Un, untrail. You look, well, never mind. I'm not going to say anything.

“I'm glad you're doing better. And by the way, folks, I think it's seriously when norm says this”

stuff. I went to see the dermatologist a couple of days ago because norm went through this. And the dermatologist said, hey, you need sunscreen, but my wife had also watched norm, and she had left a box of sunscreen on my, by my, by my, uh, a sink in the morning, uh, already. So the only person I'm really worried about is men, but I don't think men actually

Right. I went to Walter Reed and they told me I'd perfectly healthy. You are perfectly.

I am going back to see 22 more specialists now. Well, let's say, but before you do that, give us another story. If you're enjoying this episode and want to get even more out of the DSR network,

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DSR network dot sub-stack.com/ogist26. That's DSR network dot sub-stack.com/ogist26. All right. President Trump's allies on the Kennedy Center board voted at his name to the facade, renaming the front plaza after him and shut down most of the venue for two years, directly defying a federal judges' previous court order against similar changes. Democratic board members can demo to the virtual meeting as a sham designed to rubber stamp

to President's agenda, rather than genuinely evaluate alternative renovation plans. The escalation comes as part of Trump's broader controversial effort to physically reshape Washington DC landmarks, despite ongoing legal challenges and criticism from opposition lawmakers. This is going to be shut down by the court again. They're doing this thing that Trump does, which is they challenge the court. They figured they'll have plenty of time

in court. They'll take actions before the court rules against them. And then when the court rules against them, they ignore the court and do it anyway. And they keep testing these things. And that's what they're doing here with all sorts of shenanigans. By the way, you know, they're real human consequences to this, this is a big story in the Washington Post this week about how the National Symphony Orchestra was placed at the Kennedy Center is on the death's door, because effectively

“they've been shut down in all of this. And I think it does bear repeating. But when Trump says,”

"Oh, the Kennedy Center was a disaster," and he had to step in and do all of this stuff, that that is complete bullshit. The Kennedy Center had just spent hundreds of millions of dollars renovating the Kennedy Center, adding to the Kennedy Center some new facilities. He was just coming in because he wanted to make it into a facility that was friendly to him and friendly to his people. And it's all part of his sweeping, his one sweeping strategic initiative, which is to vandalize

all of Washington, which he does for the same reason that he got into fights with New York Mayor after New York Mayor, is because he goes into these cities. And he discovers that everybody hates them and he lashes out. And he knows the people of Washington hate him. And so what he's trying to do is, you know, mess with Washington. Well, Norm, I want to go over to you. I almost called you walk because somebody pointed out that the movie star you resemble for them is Walter Nathau.

Or Larry David. But so let me vent a little bit on this one. We have to add to this

that the Kennedy Center board now basically filled with his lickspittals also are going to rename the

Kennedy Center. By the way, that if we do these shows with you Norm, we're going to have a drinking game for every time you use the word lickspittal. I mean, I mean, I mean, men are already drinking, but yes, go on, go on. You'll be drunk quickly. Um, they, I'm already drunk. Okay, if we rename the campus, Trump Plaza, which itself is also illegal. This is what a malignant narcissist does. Um, now, first I want to go, because you can doctor know how to remove

“a malignant narcissist. I mean, I think it takes a little bit more than the most technique,”

but whatever it is, let's do that. I wish we could say it could happen by a election, but it

knows before going to have another one of those. Um, yeah, that's so nice. When when he first came

in an announced that he was doing this takeover of the Kennedy Center, firing the board, firing the chair and all the rest of it, I wrote a piece saying, this is the illegal and chastizing the existing leadership. Uh, the president, a wonderful, uh, woman, uh, and uh,

When in fact, they were using as a precedent, something that was not as relevant. It was what

“had happened with Biden firing, uh, members of the, uh, naval academy, uh, board of advisors.”

I won't get into a detail here, but because they didn't fight this, and maybe they would have lost, but because they didn't fight it, we ended up in the situation that we have now. And let me note that on this board, uh, which includes, um, the, you know, experts in the, uh, performing arts, uh, uh, Laura Ingram and Maria Bartiromo, but also his chief of staff Susie Wiles, all of whom voted for this stuff, including voting for trying to get around what the court had done, um, that

they've basically destroyed this institution and closing it down for two years, probably means it

will never be back. And we should note that the symphony had a dedicated fund money that had been raised

“for the National Symphony that it doesn't have access to now, which is another reason why”

our National Symphony is, uh, deeply, um, the ropes right now. Now, there's one other point here. Last night, Sheldon White House, Senator White House, who was on the board, because there's still a law that has ex officio members, who include chairs and ranking members of relevant committees, was at this meeting, Trump phoned in, said, by the way, in the middle of a war of all kinds of other crises, one of which I just noticed is that the problem with, uh, with eggs in, uh, the South

has now reached a point where people are being warned that if the ethos eggs, they could die, so we have yet another food crisis on our hands, along with a word deteriorating and many other things, said that he'd been listening to the entire board meeting two hours, but then talked, and, uh, he spent a portion of his time talking about the Kennedy Center, but then pivoted to what is really on his mind now, which is his ballroom. And he went on and on, Sheldon said,

on Lawrence O'Donnell, about the ballroom, and about how this was going to be so wonderful, and not a dime would be paid for by taxpayers, when we know that the price for the White House grounds and the changes that they're making, including his, uh, now aborted hellaport, and this monstrosity of restarted, not aborted restarted, restarted, and about this, uh,

monstrosity of a ballroom. The price tag is at least $900 million, $600 million of which, at least,

will be paid for by taxpayers, as they are pulling money from other accounts, one of them being

“the secret service, so they're going to strip the secret service of money that it uses,”

against all kinds of threats, to protect, probably not to protect him, but to protect others, and from the park service, where he's also already pulled hundreds of millions of dollars for his different projects that mean that our national parks are deteriorating as a consequence. All to satisfy this malignant ego, and to, uh, basically rape Americans, while he focuses on

what he really cares about, which is his corrupt developments. Yeah, what the reality is what he's

doing is stealing money. The White House budget for, uh, you know, facilities maintenance is $2.5 million a year, and what they've done is they've taken other monies that the Congress allocated for other things, and the Congress, who is responsible by the Constitution for allocating funds, power of the purse, uh, and, and they're just re-assigning it willingly to these various insane projects of his across the White House, um, and across Washington, DC, golden horses, and, uh, you know, a re-enaming

things, and, and, and, you know, you know, the, the, the, the renovations at the White House, for there's still paying tens of millions of dollars for getting rid of the, uh, the remnants of the UFC match that took place on the White House Southland. So, I mean, it is, it is ridiculous, and that this man is spending all this time dealing with this, when, you know, he's in the middle of one of the most ghastly geopolitical disasters in U.S. history, uh, which is to say the Iran war,

not in terms of its scale, but in terms of the level of screwups that have led to it,

it's, it's really just astonishing. As for the toxic eggs, you know, this is a subject you talk

“about a lot in our podcast where it's matter every week, norm, uh, which is, and in fact, you were”

warning, you said they're going to get rid of these people, and you were warning a year ago that this is going to cause these problems, and we've seen the problems with lettuce, and we've seen the problems with avocados, and we've seen the problems with peppers, and we've seen the problems with other fruits, and vegetables, and now this egg thing. Um, and, uh, you know, it's, it's compounded by the response of some former Trumpers. I saw one former Trumper had been interviewed

regarding, what to do about the fact that the price of food was so high that people couldn't even afford the food due to the inflation, and his response was Americans eat too much. They should eat less. You know, that's, that's, that's, that's the response. Um, but what would be sending a message to the president? Well, well, yeah, maybe, maybe he was. I do, by the way, love that in the chat. People said I didn't hear about the eggs, and immediately people are posting things about the

egg recall in the chat to help each other understand, uh, how to deal with this kind of thing.

“But I know you've got, um, uh, I think you've got somewhere in the midst of those stories.”

Another story about health lunacy. Maybe we should go to that one. I do have another story about health lunacy, and I'm loving the community that we've created. The DSR family, if you will, um, and we can keep it going with this next story. President Trump issued an executive order calling for combination vaccines like MMR shot to be unbundled into separate injections and space out. Trump's shark condemnation from public health experts who say

the plan lacks scientific backing. Implementation faces massive obstacles as drug makers would need

years and millions of dollars to build facilities and run critical clinical trials for standalone

shots they currently do not produce. Critics were in the policy will increase cost and burden

“parents with far more doctors visits, ultimately lower in childhood vaccine rates,”

though experts know the order is not legally binding on states or manufacturers. Um, yeah. I mean, this is crazy on many levels and normal let you enumerate those levels. But one of the ways that it's crazy. By the way, I see that Carla Canales here says I'm a proud member of the DSR family. She certainly is. She's my wife. I'm delighted that she has signed up here. And I hope she noted that I gave her credit for delivering me the sunwalk earlier. But in any event,

as far as vaccines go, the federal government doesn't regulate vaccines. This whole executive order where they said don't use these vaccines is not within their purview of responsibility.

The problem is that a lot of states are going to go and embrace these policies and it has

disastrous consequences. There is another story in the newspaper today that measles cases in the United States. There were another hundred measles cases last week are now higher than the total for all of last year. And when you look at the measles cases as they have done, 93% of the people who come down with measles in these thousands of cases are unvaccinated. Because it is now a political statement to say, I reject science, I reject tell, I reject the interest of my family. I'm standing with

maga and I'm going to kill myself in my neighborhood. And you know, that, you know, I mean, if you put, you know, you get a guy with the brainworm in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services who snorts cocaine off a toilet seat, that this is what you end up with and norm you predicted it. Sadly, yes. So I want to expand on this a little bit. I have a piece that will be in the new republic and up on the web on Sunday. And I start this piece by referring to one of Ronald Reagan's

favorite comments, which was reflecting on the some disarray in his White House. Sometimes the right hand doesn't know what the far right hand is doing. And in this case, in the Trump administration, it is sometimes the far right hand doesn't know what the lunatic right wing crazy hand is doing. And it is interacting three different areas. One, the one we've been talking about, which is the

destruction of food safety. A second related is the immigration policies. Because among other things,

by undocumented workers in part because the jobs are pretty awful and they're the ones that

“have been willing to take them. Take them away and what happens is you're going to have fewer people”

working in these areas. And we have in many cases the meat producers doing their own safety inspections. So we're going to see more health problems across the board. Plus, of course, the fact that Taylor Farms gave Trump some money. And then the FDA said, "Ups, well, maybe it wasn't so much them, although now we know that it was." Now, there's another area. And this is the the impetus for my piece is that starting in January, conveniently after the midterms, thanks to the one big,

beautiful bill, Republicans are cutting a trillion dollars over ten years out of Medicaid. Now, much of this is because they're putting an absolutely onerous work and paper requirements to take people off the rolls. But the important thing here is that Medicaid money doesn't go to these people. It goes to the providers. And what does that mean? What it means is that you're taking money away from hospitals, more hospitals are going to close. The ones that remain are going to be

even more heavily burdened in part because their emergency rooms will be overrun as the others have gone away. It means that nursing homes are going to be devastated because two thirds of the people in nursing homes around the country, the elderly and disabled populations,

have it paid for by Medicaid. They have basically run down their resources to almost nothing,

“their assets, and that's why they're there. And then adding that as we remove the Haitians from the”

population, the ones that we're not eating the cats and eating the dogs, 100,000 or more Haitians have been working in the health arena in hospitals as orderlies in some cases nurses, in nursing homes and in home health care. So we're going to have even more of a problem with the nursing homes that don't close. Fewer staff, that means more people in nursing homes we're going to end up abused with bedsores, with terrible problems that emerge otherwise. And all of those things,

200,000 at least undocumented who've been working in the food processing plants. We're going to have a health crisis that's already grown and is going to be greater. And you look at these, you know, these issues of measles of what RFK junior and his get out your drinking glasses, licks bittles in the department of health and human services, the other licks bittles to trump in the department of agriculture. More of those people are going to be getting diseases that send them

to hospitals to emergency rooms where there won't be much ability to deal with them. For the people losing their health insurance, adding to that, of course, the end of the

Obamacare subsidies. So you have 10 or 15 million people who've lost their health insurance,

they're not going to get preventive treatment. They're going to wait until there's an emergency, some are going to die. Others are going to go to the smaller number of overburdened emergency rooms with fewer nurses and orderlies to take care of them. What these crazy, sadistic morons have done is to create a health crisis, probably unlike any that we have seen in a very long time, except for the pandemics that we've had. And, of course, the next pandemic,

“we're completely incapable of dealing with it. Yeah, my rant for now. Well, no, I think it's a good”

rant. And I think it's one that, you know, we've been on for a while with on the words,

Matt, Matt podcast. And the reality is, you know, when you, you see that the president of the

United States actually is a big believer in you, Gen X. And that some of the crazy is around him, believe in these kind of things, too. It looks more deliberate than just chaotic. But I do think there may be a silver lining in this. And you're beginning to see it within a lot of the campaigns that are taking place in this country. And you may even be seeing it in the rise of some of the progressive candidates we've seen. And that is, we're having a health crisis. And one thing we know

is that when there is a democratic Congress, when there is a democratic president, they're going to have to undo this. And the question is, how are they going to undo it? Are they going to do this thing for medlears? Are they going to try to hit the reset button? And increasingly, the response

progressives. I'm talking about moderates as well is we need Medicaid for Medicare for everybody.

“We need healthcare for everybody in the United States. And this is something that we have”

liked every developed country in the world on for decades. But I have a sense that we are at a moment

because of this crisis, a potential opportunity to finally produce some of the same sweeping

healthcare reform. And with all due respect, for example, New Jersey, Senator Andy Kim, I don't just mean for kids. I mean for everybody in our society. That's the way it is in every other OECD country. That's the way it ought to be here. That's the message we're hearing from a lot of Democrats. And that's a damn good thing as far as I'm concerned. So I would just, I would note that all movement has a really good column today saying, Medicare for all,

nicest it would be if we were starting a healthcare system from scratch. That's just what we

would do. It's hard to bring about. But what about Medicare as an option for everybody? And I think

there's a lot of merit to that, both pragmatically politically because wiping out the entire health insurance industry in our political system with all the money they have is a heavy lift.

“Well, I think that's, I think that's what people mean. And there was a study out from Yale”

University just this past week that points out that if everybody is healthcare, if you do have Medicare for all, or Medicare is an option for all, the punchline is we save money. Yeah. Right. And we save Medicare because you broaden the risk pool and that means that you can extend the life of the program. It should be noted that we would have had this by now. We're at not for Joe Lieberman. When the Affordable Care Act came up and they needed 60

Democrats in the Senate to vote to put a plan out, every one of them had a kind of veto power. And Joe coming from Connecticut representing a lot of health insurers said he would vote for it if they took out the public option. The public option was going to be Medicare for any body who wanted it. So we could have had this 15 years ago, 14 years ago. And it's tragic. But what else you got there a minute? Well, let's talk about some of these candidates,

shall we? Let's do an update on the primaries from this week. Primary voters in six states went to the polls on Tuesday. On their public and side, President Trump's power as a kingmaker showed mixed results with his endorsed candidates winning in primaries like South Carolina, Wisconsin, in Alabama, but losing Minnesota's GOP gubernatorial primary. Meanwhile, Democratic face voters signaled a shift toward the younger, more progressive candidates who take a firm stance against

Trump's immigration crackdown and health care and all the things that you guys have just discussed. Though, moderate David Crawley managed to hold off a progressive challenge in Wisconsin's gubernatorial primary. Yeah. I mean, you know, people are like crazy in their analysis of this one, frankly, norm some of it's driving me crazy. Because you know, when Dr. Abdul Elsayed one last week in Michigan, the headlines were Elsayed wins by just a little bit. Bad news for the

progressives. And then when Crowley won in Wisconsin, it was progressives lose by just a little bit bad news for the progressives. And it's like, wait, wait a minute. They can't have it both ways on

this kind of thing. And the reality is that what we've seen is a shift generally towards younger,

newer candidates, a shift generally towards people who are willing to fight and speak clearly about these things. A shift generally towards people who are offering solutions for voters, as opposed to old school, you know, sort of, you know, merely mouth-populate it.

“And that's happening across the country. And I think that's something that is the reason that right”

now in the polls, the Democrats are way ahead. And Republicans are doing poorly. The president has the lowest rating of a president at a midterm in modern history. And there's no sign that anything that has led to that is going to get any better. The economy has got problems that run and so forth. So that was my takeaway. Of course, you're from Minnesota, one of the states as funny, it looks like your next governor is going to be Amy Klobuchar. And I thought that was kind of good.

I want to talk about Minnesota. And that is the story in the Hill today that says federal surveillance

operation targeted progressive groups and unions in Minnesota. In other words, the Republicans, you know, we talk about are there going to be elections? The Republicans are using their national security capabilities to go after some of the progressive groups that are just, and that are just normal political groups. And much the same way that Jay Edgar Hoover did, you know, 50, 60, 70 years ago. And that's they're using that as a policy to harass and suppress those groups.

And so as we look forward, that could play a role in whether or not we have elections.

So I just speaking of my native Minnesota, somebody just put into the chat, you know, not to be

cynical, but in both Michigan and Wisconsin, it was men who won. But let's note that in Minnesota,

“whatever happens, there will be the first woman governor. And I think it is very, very likely”

to be Amy Klobichar. And I think she will be absolutely terrific. And we are going to get another woman in the Senate. It will most likely be Peggy Flanagan, who's a native American, who's been a lieutenant governor there against a woman who's lacking in many attributes, Michelle Tefoya, like any experience or knowing what she's talking about. But yeah, no, I got it. I got it. So there are a couple of points to make here. One is there's still a backlash

against the establishment, John Larson, who might known for decades, who's had a very good solid career, including in leadership in the House, was defeated in Connecticut by the mayor of the largest city in his district, a young man. And it was all time for a change. So there's some of that. But there's another positive point to make here, which is what we're seeing is Democrats in array, not disarray. So immediately after the really bitter contest in Michigan,

Ali Stevens endorsed Al-Sai, immediately after the unexpected outcome in Wisconsin, Francis, Mrs. Hong, Ms. Hong endorsed Crowley. The good news about Crowley is he's a very progressive guy as the county executive. But the image was he's the more moderate among them. And he's going to

“benefit, I think, from that, and that he will have support from moderates, but also from progressives.”

There is a chance for the first time in a very, very, very, very long time that we could see a

sweep in Wisconsin. That Democrats could take both chambers in the legislature, where there was for a long time. Two thirds were public and the jordies, thanks to outrageous jerrymanders. There are several Republicans in the House, including the really vile Derek Van or one of the most cringe worthy of them in trouble. And a, a, a very solid, democratic governor, this has been largely good news. Now, we have some polls out there, Fox poll that shows that

Al-Sai is down by four points to mic Rogers. But that poll also shows that among the most likely voters, he's ahead. And my guess is that, and four points is within the margin of error anyway. Yeah. You know, he's, well, it shows other Democrats more substantially ahead, including shared

“Brown for the Senate in Ohio. I, I would say this. I think the biggest problem that Al-Sai”

has other than that there will be a huge amount of money going in slimy him for this is he's got to find a way to get a little distance from Hassan Piker, who has said some truly outrageous things and that he is campaigned with him. I think is a bit of a problem. Other than that, his policy positions, the distortion that he's against Mackinaw Island, which, by the way, is a place that the rich and famous go to vacation, but also he was against a conference of the elites that were

there that he's against football when he said quite accurately that it's a violent sport. He can deal with very easily and he's one impressive smart guy. But he has to protect himself a little bit on that flank, and it shouldn't be that difficult for him to do well. It shouldn't be.

Abdul El-Sai, as El-Sai is in many respects, the all-American boy, great education, real Michigan, or doing a lot for Michigan for a long, long time. The things he's proposing much like Mamdoni and New York are things that will help people in an ordinary way, and it's

“it's not that he's some kind of crazed progressive. I think he's appealing to a broader audience,”

and I think one of the things that El-Sai ad recognizes that a lot of these other candidates don't recognize is that there are a lot of voters under 40. And those voters get their information from a different place and they get them from different people and they have strong views. And the establishment has been a little uncomfortable about this. I love that the Michigan establishment, Gretchen Whitmer, Alyssa Slotkin, the candidates, Haley Stevens, and Mallory McMurra who ran against El-Sai

ad all stood up and said, "I'm with the team." The only place I'm seeing a little drag on that or establishment Democrats who feel like, "Oh my God, I'm not going to get paid the fees that I normally get paid by candidates if we continue to have this move away from money and politics." But I got to say the message that El-Sai had ran on that I think resonates most strongly with me besides healthcare for everybody is get the money out of politics, get the big money out,

“get rid of the packs, get rid of these things. And I think that resonates, particularly with a lot”

of people who see that as one of the reasons our system is right, white benefits the rich, white benefits of people who are already in power, and white screws everybody else. And you know, we've talked about it over and over again on the podcast. We're running out of time a little bit. You have one more story in the minute. We have one more story for today. A neuroport reveals that President Trump has seen at least 27 a Senate confirmed cabinet officials

leave during the first two years of a second term. More than double his first term rate,

and significantly higher than the past four administrations. Departures have been driven by policy clashes, high profile firings, and internal reassignments, while the White House defends the team's record. Rather than replacing many of these outgoing leaders through Senate nominations, Trump has increasingly relied on temporary acting officials, a strategy he favors for allowing greater executive control without congressional oversight.

You know, I mean, you hate to see these people go, you know, I know Caroline Leive was a particular favorite of yours, nor am I going to use to show up with a big cross in the,

like she did on the shows. And you like the fact that, you know, well, never mind. I'm not going

to get into a personal life. I'll leave that to others who are who are more petty than I,

“although she did seem to be pissed off by something. I think she was a little pissed off by Natalie”

Harp being on the safe plane. You know, there's a little bit of stories to that. But, you know, there was this story that was, you know, going on, you know, a few months ago that Susie Wiles was in complete control that this was different from the first term of the Trump administration that people weren't leaving that they were disciplined, that there weren't leagues, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, here we are. We're not even two years into this administration. There is an Exodus,

and it used to be normed back in the old days, you know, what you and I may remember a bit, that if you have the White House Council and the White House press secretary, both announced they were leaving within 48 hours of one another. People would be writing stories that there's something wrong in the White House. You know, whether they're, you know, they're ditching him because they think he's on the way out or he can't stay awake or he's going to

lose any elections or there's something else going on there. The reality is there is a problem

for the Republicans in this administration that is not being reported, which is it's falling apart at the scene. So I saw somebody just asked who is Natalie Harp and what's her deal and one might just notice that she is the Ivanka look alike in the White House whose main job is to give Trump all of the positive things that are being said about him and to keep from him all of the reality that's out there. I mean, I want one of those in our company, but she is also

very, very, very close, very, very close to Donald Trump, whatever that means and we don't know. That apparently he doesn't fall asleep when she's around. Oh, my God. I thought we weren't

I'm not speculating. I don't court you decide. Let's all decide.

“Having, having said that 27 people leaving is not enough. The misuse of the”

vacancies act, which Trump has done to try and fill posts that even this gets your glasses out again. Licks, fiddle, Republican Senate won't confirm is another one of the terrible elements of what's going on here and the fact that they are confirming people who are utterly unqualified for their jobs is itself another scandal. But let's also note that we may be seeing some other departures soon. I'm keeping an eye on one of the most vial people ever to serve in a government

Pete Higgsith who not only got us into probably more than anybody else other than BB Netanyahu

got us into this or another don't forget Jared and and Whitka, but yes. But he basically said to

Trump, as best we can tell, look what you did in Venezuela, we'll take these bastards out in one day and it all will be fine. But then look at this catastrophe on the aircraft carrier the Abraham Lincoln and look at the fact that Higgsith, which is getting horrible press and now we're going to take another aircraft carrier from the Pacific, which will lead China all alone out there to intimidate its neighbors in the Pacific so that they can relieve this aircraft carrier where we've had

basically broken sanitation systems, polluted water, no food, people jumping off the aircraft carrier, suicidal thoughts and tendencies and what does Higgsith say? There's nothing there, it's all great. I love these people. Trump is going to look at this not because of the policy failures but because of the bad press that Higgsith is getting for him and his administration and it would not surprise me at all that he will soon be back on Fox.

“He won't make it through there. I would predict that right now. I think after particularly if”

there's a big loss in November, even just one house of the Congress and it becomes clear that Trump's agenda can't advance and Trump has a few of his meltdowns. I think you're going to see a lot of people departing because they want to have two years where they can say to people, "Hey, I'm close to Trump. I can help you make some money so that they can cash in in the way

people do in Washington." And I think the problem is that this is Trump's second term and what

you always see from a first term to a second term as you go from the A list to the B list. But what you get in the second half of the second term is the D list. You get a bunch of people who are not up for these jobs early on and who are willing to take a job in a hostile political environment for months, perhaps. But it's the one chance to get their ticket stamp. And so I suspect you will see several cabinet secretaries leave before the end of this year and I suspect they're

going to be replaced probably as Norm says on an acting basis because the Congress won't approve them and we will have a dysfunctional administration. I throw a twist in that and that is the decline of Donald Trump. And the question is how his physical decline affects his performance and I wrote a piece in the Daily Beast that was out yesterday in which I looked back at when this has happened in the past. And you may think, well, you know, there's 25th amendment, there's success and all that.

Typically when presidents get sick, their administrations lie about the fact that they're sick, Democrats and Republicans, and people close to the president arrogant unto themselves the power of

“the president. And we know Trump's not working around the clock, so who's making these decisions?”

Who's pushing the pieces around on the chessboard? Well, it's people like Steven Miller. It's people like Jared Kushner. It's other people like that. In the past, you know, you had to eat it's gold Wilson when President Wilson had a stroke doing it. You've had other senior staffers doing it. And I think we can look forward into the next couple of years to see more and more of this.

And you know, JD Vance will stay away. Will it be the first lady somebody here has pointed out

one of the people to quick? The administration already is baloney. She's quit.

Maloney is no longer, you know, playing the role of first lady. I don't think she's going to pull

“a lot of strings. But we do have to look forward to even if we have some good news in November,”

a weaker administration, a more desperate declining president and people around the president, who may be worse than him. I mean you, Steven Miller, dieting a lot of the decisions that we make. Fortunately for you, we'll be here at the DSR network. We'll be with norm every week with

words matter. We'll be doing deep state radio. We'll be doing the DSR daily with Minna. And with

Riley, we do the new Republic, the Daily Blast, every single day. We have Sila Consciousness,

“which is a great show on AI. We do our need to know podcast where this week we had the great”

Jen Welch of the I've had it shows who's a friend on the podcast. We've got a great one coming up for you. Next week, early next week with Nick Hanauer, who's one of America's last remaining decent billionaires. He's got some good ideas for how to fix the economy. So we've got all this coming your way and every single Friday at noon. We're going to do this. And normal be here, or somebody else from our team will be here and will answer your questions. And I got to tell you,

I'm going to tell you what we do is better because we're doing this because we get to interact with you. Now some of you are quick on the uptake. Like Jack Hutton there said I feel a closing coming on. How did you know that, Jack? How did you guess that I was leading up to a closet? But if there people you want to see who are in our extended family, let us know. We'll be doing more of these live shows because going into this election, we're not just going into this election.

On the day after election day, campaign 2028 starts. Sorry. I'm sorry. I don't like it any more

“than you do. But that's the reality. And it's a real, real important election. It's a reality.”

We've got to deal with it. So we will be here just so we have to do in these podcasts now for 12 years. But on Instagram, on TikTok, go to YouTube. Definitely go to YouTube and subscribe on YouTube. That's where the fastest boat is. Here on Substack at the DSR network, here on Substack I need to know if you get them both. You get the second one for 50% off. So that's pretty good. There's a lot of places to join us and get our content. We look forward to having you do so.

We look forward to having you back here, put it in your calendar every week, Friday at noon. And Norm, glad you're nose is better. Glad you're nose is better. You're looking more like

Gary Grant and less, less like, less like Walter Math out every day. Midnight, you are always a

joy. And we'll see you all real soon. So thanks everybody and bye-bye.