Episode #126 Featuring Mark Young! Treating the CAUSE, NOT THE SYMPTOM! A guide to prevention and root cause treatment! Putting GOD FIRST! Food as medicine and more!

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That's qualialife.com/dillon and use my code dillon. Thank you to qualia for sponsoring this episode. Today is extremely special for me for multitudes of reasons. One, as you can see, we're not in the normal studio. We are at changing life and destiny, and I am thoroughly honored to have the person that

I'm interviewing today for multiple reasons. One, we met in person for the first time here. Now, I've been going back and forth with him here and there, as soon as we met, it was like an instantaneous click. I don't know how to explain it, you just know when you know when you know and we both know.

And I received an award here last night and had the privilege of being introduced by my guest who gave a speech that I don't really know what to say other than it, it hit me in a certain way of the most touching and my level of appreciation, I can't really convey into words, but I'm going to try to show that in our interaction today. So my guest today is someone who has built a career around a principle that sounds simple,

but it turns out to be everything.

“If you want to build something that lasts, you have to actually care about the people your”

building of for it. And that is super synonymous with everything that I can tell you this man stands for. He's an entrepreneur. He's an author. He's a speaker and he's a philanthropist.

He's the CEO of Sonya Health and he's also the CEO and founder of Verizon Agency. And I have to tell you, I meet a lot of people. I talk to, I don't know, without exaggeration, thousands of people a month.

And I love the ability that I have to do that, but there's always a small, select few

that stick with you in just everything that you do. And this is one of those people. So my friends, welcome, Mark. Yeah. Dude, I don't even know what to say in the intro.

We're going to be tears here. I'm known for my in-dross. Bill, that is all I'm going to stop. My team raised my adroats.

“Yo, I always tell people send me a bio and I never tell them I'm only going to use a couple”

sentences because it's, it's, it's, it's there simply so I can hit your credentials. But everything else comes from me. My team writes my bios. This is going to be so funny. Because every time I have a guest, like, I'm like, I'm going to read the bio because

I could never do you justice.

Well, it hit, it just did. But thank you. I appreciate that. And doing like the honor of being able to introduce you yesterday at that, at the event last night was, all mine genuinely all mine.

And the point that I wanted to make in that was that you're, you're not here. You're not here. You're not here. You know, you're not talking about physiology, like so many other people at podcast. You're, you're not talking about just psychology.

You're not talking about just spirituality, like, you're one of the rare breed of people who integrates all of those things together and understands the, the wholeism of the human organism and not any kind of container or for categorization or what not about people. And I appreciate that about you. Thank you.

Here's what I feel and I, and I start with this and you tell me what you think.

So I feel like everybody's got a specialty, something that are just really good at their known for that they know a lot about. But then they get out there and that's all they talk about. And that's all you ever see from somebody.

And I'm not saying they're an expert in everything, but there's more personality.

There's something that they're missing. And my job and my goal is tenfold, really it's one. It's to showcase the person because it's not about me when you come on my show. I got the opportunity to go speak and you could talk to me about all you want. I'll feed you some things when you're interviewing with me.

But what I want to do is not just showcase your strengths. And I'm not necessarily saying we're going to go look at your weaknesses, but your other abilities to show your versatility and who you are. And if I am going to do that, I have to be able to bring all facets of health and wellness because health and wellness is not just one, two or three things.

It is effort. It's all of that. Yeah. And I agree. I was used to phrase that if all I have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Yeah.

And I see a lot of people, particularly in this bio-racking, natural, house wellness space,

they have a product. They've got something they've, and I respect them so much for it because for many of these people with this is their story come to life, like from their pain to their purpose, yeah, they've found something, they found a supplement that saved their lives. They found a device that saves them, I'd say they found this stuff.

And now everybody needs it, not everybody needs it, like just because it just, because the movie wanted to war doesn't mean everybody enjoyed it. That's right. Right. But there's flavors for all sorts of stuff and particularly I was talking with our mutual

friend Sean Brave today and we were talking about, we can't unpack physiology until we unpack trauma. Yeah. Like, how does it know to people have the same amount of trauma? I don't care.

Like we've all lived different lives, we've all been impacted differently and, you know, we've disclosed things about our own life to each other and it's like, they're not the same. Totally different. And yet, when you get to the end result, literally people say we look just the way.

“But it's like, there's so much that goes on back here and I think it's important for anybody”

in this space to responsibly practice and recommend. And again, that's what I admire about you, like you're not talking things. You're genuinely caring about individuals and not just masses. I think it's important when you're conveying like what something is that you're selling that you really convey what it is and why you may need it, not that you have to have

it. But this is why you may need it. So if you have problem x, problem y, or you want to address something that you're missing, this will be good for you. But it doesn't mean that every single person, you know, you're trying to shove it down

their throws. I feel there's some things out there that you and I discussed, like, you know, certain like creatine. I feel like almost anybody meets that can take it. Right?

There's some things like that. But then there's things that I just, I have a hard time with. Well, as I go to give you, you, you, you put no time like, yeah, I agree. There's nobody that I wouldn't say couldn't take that product. Yes, STEM region, there's nobody I believe there couldn't take that product in benefit

from. Right?

“Do I believe it's a solution for everybody?”

No, no. But it's a great additive. Yeah, it's not going to hurt anybody, but I, I see people out there who are just like, all the vitamins are good. I need to take all the vitamins.

And like, yeah, except then I've looked at vitamin stacks around my births great. You're taking this beef liver organ, you're taking this, you're taking this, you're done, I'm like, you know, it's how much vitamin A that you've put into your diet, because you've taken all of these supplements together, let's still look at all of these, by even eight quantities and find out how long it's going to take before you go into heart

failure. Right? Okay. Not everything is good. Yes.

And not everything is good if you don't know everything else that the person is even taking. And that's it. It's, it's responsibility, I mean, in pharmacies, we cross reference prescriptions in all of this, but it's like, they're not even cross referencing lifestyle, they're not cross

referencing supplementation, like none of this stuff was playing into the conversation. And, and again, it's good back to that whole story of the probes. Well, even like something like time, I mean, you know, it's like my favorite thing in the world, but if we're not a dressy, cellular health at its core, first, timelines not going to do anything for you, nothing's going to do anything for you, because we're

not addressing the initial problem if we're any corrected.

You said something yesterday in a conversation that I'd never heard anybody say at a truthful

I mean, this, you did a Instagram post recently talking about the responsibility of being an influencer or a person of influences, you put it as like, you're influencing people's health. I've never heard an influencer say, and I need to be responsible because I'm influencing people's finances.

That's it, man. And I was like, wow, like that, what a great acknowledgement that, sure, you can recommend this timeline to somebody and it's not going to hurt them. It'll probably do them good, even if they're not paying attention to the other tenants of cellular health.

“But you're paying attention to it and saying, but is it responsible for their money?”

Yeah. If they're not going to get maximum benefit, don't spend. Yeah. And, and I don't know when we're at a conference right now, and there's a hundred exhibitors outside the door, and I'm wondering how many of them would say, no, don't buy my product.

Right. No, they go to financing options. Like, that's not a surprise. Like, everybody wants to do this. And again, it's because they poured their lives into doing what they're doing.

And they want to make sure that everybody has their same experience. Most people have the same experience, it doesn't matter what it is. There's a look, man. Everybody, and we talked about this yesterday, no human can't survive without money. We all work for money, but you can make a lot of money and save a lot of people a lot

of money at the same time. You can have competition is important because if there's no competition, then you become complacent. You don't become innovative and you just rest on your laurels and then that's when you take advantage of people because you know you're the only one doing it.

You know what?

I intentionally, when my bio is always used, that was used the words, I am entrepreneur.

Yeah, educator, author, philanthropist. I love it. And then I had to travel not because that's due to it, I have it. But it's a, there is no reason why I can't be entrepreneurial and philanthropic at the same time.

Yes. I want to have as many resources as I can possibly compile on this life because that's how I have maximum impact on the world around me. I say this in prayer and I, I'm going to be flat out honest. I didn't realize it till more recently.

But being rich was all those years. I would have like I always dream I'm going to have a six figure income one day like when I was growing up and when I sold drugs and then you never got it, you know, and how am I going to do this with taxes and this and then when I did it, I would realize I'm not rich.

You know what I realized I was rich when I was rich in spirit first and then rich in doing good work. And then I became the richest man alive. I'm rich in like the love that I, because I prayed for it on a hard and hard and I realized man, you're too stoic like become more compassionate.

“What do you, why, why, why do you, I'm a blockhead of why?”

And I became rich when the fate was so strong that everything that I did had a genuine purpose and it was for him, not for me. And then I found like, okay, this is the path, I'm going to, I'm going to share this crazy story with you. I've talked about this yet, but so that there's, you story clearly has a lot of twists

and turns. Oh, yeah, it's such a mess. It's, yeah, I got a lot. You may, I may be, but recently this came up, I've had a long-term relationship. My dad is set on board of an organization called World Mission, which is now called

unknown nations. I forgot that. Yeah. They do. They're the audio Bible people and they'd actually put New Testament red, it translated into,

I believe, they'd done 5,000 languages at this point. And it's solar power. So what they do is they distribute them around the world and there's no need for batteries or anything at rea charges and then tribes all over the world. Like, and I've done those trips to Africa distributing them and the backwards of, you

know, Northern Kenya, it to literally people who live in, like, gypsy, like, tent communities. And we're sitting in the tents and you're passing out audio by those, just spreading the board in these, just completely weird places.

And what's really cool, though, is because, yeah, I've had some amazing experiences and

that's been incredible.

“Just being able to share the world literally to the four corners of the earth, right?”

And recently, Greg Kelly, who's the executive director at unknown nations, he'll be shot to my dad and that it was like, we need to get Mark on the call. So I joined the call and then while we're having this conversation, I'm like, you know what? I need him then. I'd be joining this call.

I need Philip to join this call to our couple of members of my team. And Greg's talking about, you know, we have missionaries in some of the areas of world that are just dangerous for somebody to be speaking the gospel. And one of the things that they have happened in their communities is that a person ends up, you know, coming to Jesus, they, they convert to Christianity, but there's no discipleship

that takes place past that. And, you know, they go home to a family of a totally different faith or to friends or to community with a village or to whatever it is. And as soon as they start getting hammered with questions, they're like, you know, they, they, they don't, they don't know the answers because, you know, it's they all they know is, well, I met Jesus, but now what?

That's it. Well, all of a sudden, my family's pressuring me and they're asking questions. I don't know the answers to. And I don't have a mentor because this was a traveling missionary who led me to this place. They, and the education ends.

“So we're on the phone and my dad's at, what do you think we can do with this?”

And I'm like, okay, like that's when I'm like, let me get him, and let me get fill. Let me get them on this call right on.

I'm like, okay, so here's what I'm imagining is again, I take complex things and figure

out solutions. And my, our team works deep, deep, deep, deep in a high. Yeah. And I'm like, we could actually set up AI-driven things that we can vet the allergy. We can actually create this. And we can actually create the soul file of an AI to

with the language references, with everything else, and that it through theology, that if

“we were able to gain access to this in this and this, like, we could literally create”

avatars, where a 25 year old female in Pakistan is able to have a conversation about theology and defend faith by having in an artificial intelligence mentor and almost be disabled in apologetics and theology and that respect. And it's like, super cool, whatever, maybe it's been done before I don't know. But we're having this conversation about how we can make this and have this prolific impact all over the world. And after that call was over,

I sat with him and then fill up from my team and we had kind of follow up and I'm like, guys, like, and they're both like, oh my gosh, and he met us. She's in the room with us right now. I actually, what we do is record it. It was just like, like, oh my gosh, like, we get to do this. Yeah. Like, yeah, this, these weird twists and turns and AI being scary and wobble about like, we deal with it in marketing. We deal with it in companies. We deal with it in

health care and I'm like, guys, we just got taken on this weird backward journey through developing

customer service reps and dealing with a Gentic AI education. Because, and I always go back to

that story of Esther, right? Like, maybe all of that preparation was for a moment, such as this. Maybe everything you've been through was for a moment, such as this. Maybe everything I do in business is for a moment, such as this. Maybe all of the work we've been doing in AI to learn at the hard way for the past year or two, like, maybe this is what it's about. Maybe it is nothing to do with customer service bots. Maybe it is nothing to do with, you know, all the different apps

that we're in and there's nothing to do with Chad GPT and whatnot. Like, it all has something to do

“with like preparation. Yeah. And I think that preparation often looked like pain always comes on as”

purpose. Yeah. That's it. I don't even know where we were about. Oh, no, it's not about a great story compared to what you were just saying. You know, I, um, I've had a, I, I, I, I can't did not use the word fear anymore. But, um, I would say a tempered skepticism with like AI, what it's going to do. And I'm trying to think about, okay, this is happening no matter what. So, how is this, what I kind of feel can be extremely negative? How can we refer this and turning

into something extremely positive? Because it's going to, it's going to come up the force. I say, I'm in, there's, there's, there's a negative aspect behind. I'll carry it anybody says it and there's an evil and tab by and some of it. But how do we take that in reverse it? Because anything evil can be changed and reversed. Let me say twice. That's exactly right. We have a representative for evil. Double use for his all over. Yeah. And that's the divine

table term. And that could be more of the purposes that we have is to change, make that change in a bit. And I, I, I've been thinking about that. And that, right now, then this is just what he does. And it brought a whole another thinking process on to me. We'll have to talk about a little bit later. Um, yes, truth. But we have so many things to talk about. We're, you know where that's going. But thank you for that. Because that gave

“me some insight that I think that I was searching for. I tend to work on tempering being bothered”

and fearful anymore. I think that's one of the progressions that I personally made. And I'm wondering your thoughts on, and for people, because I'm sure you would have some good thoughts on overcoming fears, stresses and anxieties. Because you and I both know, I think, you know, as bad as cancer and as bad as any sort of disease that we run into, I think fear, stress. These are the actual largest killers because they are the causes upset diseases. Those, you know, and so

I'm wondering for you, what's your approach to fear and stress on how to help people overcome it without medication or BS that's not going to help it? I'm going to go back to the individuality of that question, BS. Certain people's fears and stresses are different than others. Yeah, you know, some people's fears I would say are completely negligible and why are you bothering me with this nonsense? Even those very real to them and other people's fears are fears that I

couldn't possibly comprehend because they're so serious that it goes past me. I will say that biblically, since we're already down that red at whole, fear not are the words that are used most

often. In fact, they're used 365 times throughout scripture, which I find to be an incredible coincidence,

what not for not for our gun, right? That the words fear not are used exact number of times is the

piece of the lug at there. That's it. So I really remind. That's a daily reminder. I get it. And

my belief is that from a, I always say I'm a contrary in any conversation because if you ask me

about a physiological symptom, I'm going to ask you about your emotional health. If you ask me about emotional issue, I'm going to ask you about spiritual health. Like I'm going to always approach it through the back door to have that conversation. When people are experiencing fears, I was like

“personally, one of the ways that I handle fear when it creeps into my life is I have a tendency”

to play out forced case scenarios because fear triggers this sympathetic nervous system, right? Our autonomic nervous system is this up-shift, down-shift type thing and both are very necessary. But fear triggers that sympathetic nervous system. And unfortunately, we tend to live

in our society. Like what is the number 80 something percent of the population is actually

living under chronic stress. And that stress creates fear. It's fear of losing my job. It's fear of cancer. It's fear of death. It's fear of my children growing up and being a mess. Like whatever it is, I have a cousin who can't literally rest at night because if she sees a headlight in the window, jumps up off the couch because she's convinced the person is coming into the house. And it's like just nervous system off the chain. And one of the things that I do is like

literally for me, I'm a very cognitive behavioral person. I tend to play out worst case scenarios. Because worst case scenarios actually get me out of fear and put me into purpose. That is in my business. If everything goes wrong, I create two budgets every year and this is going to sound ridiculous. But we've talked adult booze. I hate losing. Actually, I know even love winning. I hate losing. Like, no, it's an I drive guy. Winning's cool. I expect that.

Not losing is my purpose. You would. But I literally create a budget for my own business of everything went wrong. What does it look like? Because if I'm still using black ink, when everything goes wrong, there's no fear this year. Like, I have nothing to fear. And it literally ships me into it. This is the best case scenario. This is the worst case scenario. And I know statistically that we'll probably end up somewhere middle. So if this is the worst it can get. And that scenario

didn't kill me, I have no reason to be in an overgrowth. I think for so many people, and I think it plays out in a hundred different ways to people's lives. And for me, I'm talking business and finding it just a bit different. I mean, literally, if it's disease, if it's divorce, I mean, all of the things that can affect people's lives, that's okay. Let's play out the scenario. Where are you at the end of this? And if where you are at the end of this, is still above ground,

then there's hope. There's always hope. Yeah. So, and I always, there's a multitude of things

that I do that I think you'll like. One, and I told Queenie this one, I first met her. She's like, well, why are you looking for all these other things when you have this? And I said,

“because you have to have a backup for your backup and a backup for that backup. And that's why.”

Because when you think everything's so great and dandy at the drop of a dime, and I know this from walking into my mortgage company office and seeing it boarded up in 2008. I know this from waking up one day and people tell me, you can't go to the gym, you can't go outside for COVID. And I know that these things can happen that you wake up and it's just that's it. And then what? How do you handle it? What do you do? So, I love that because you have to be prepared. And then

my other question that I've been working on for myself, which is working is, okay, I'm getting so stressed out. Like I'm, or I'm crying or I'm over emotional, what did that contribute to solving the problem? Or did it make it worse? Yeah, I got that the anger thing that I have, that's my worst that I get, like, it is not this like rage anger. It's this impatience anger that I, I have to tell myself this is the solving thing, but the stress part,

I've been working on to where it's like, what is this crying going to do? What, how does this help offensively? No, but, or if I look at the clock and I cried for 30 minutes or I got stressed for an hour, I just lost an hour ago and fixed in this shit. Yeah, you know what I mean? My answer to that, and this is I've said this for decades, I did myself a timeline, because the one thing that I can't stand is when people get into that frame and people tell

“them to knock it off for people like, no, no, you need to acknowledge that this is a very real”

emotion right now, and sometimes crying is a great way you're expelled that energy, but it's got an expiration, they exactly, that if this is the worst day in my life that's great, I'm going to

and sometimes I just embrace the suck, it's a big and tomorrow morning, I'm back in this hour. Yeah, because this, this has an expiration date. This is not going to go on forever, but I, I make a date with my own destiny in that respect, right? Like, I'm, I'm going to,

“I'm going to put an expiration date, and I think that's where some people go too far down that”

rabbit mold and say, I'm going to get into the depression and now I'm stopped. But is it, we, we need to put up some guard rills, and it, it's okay to wallow in it for a quick second, because sometimes life does suck. I just call it delaying inevitable, don't do quick, or it means like, I, when I was getting into a lot of trouble when I was younger, you know, the story, things would happen, and I would like not tell my parents or not tell them,

and I was going to have to come up. Yeah, I was going to manage a kept Wayne on me, and it would get worse, and I couldn't sleep, and I think about what I'm going to do, how I'm going to do something that's like weeks later. Yeah, and it's like, you know, and it's,

it's, when you delay the inevitable, you make it 5 million times worse. I'm a guy now that's just like,

just, let's get it over with. Whatever it is, I go to the level up, just, but yeah, just let's just hurry up and get it over. It's what I have to think about it. Yeah, I'd much rather just do it, get it over with, and not take about it again. You know what I mean? Because if it's inevitable, do it. I agree. I want to ask you something, you probably didn't expect me to ask,

“and I think you're the guy to ask, which is why I'm going to do it. This is stressful.”

Why is it in your view that so many people distort the words that are said in the Bible? What is the reason that you feel, and I'm sure that this is a loaded question, and there's multitudes of avenues, but I'm curious to somebody that is a theologian. Why do you fear? Because I want to know from an expert of said Bible that we both live on, that I feel has the answer to every question in life, but people misconstruer everything in it.

Wow. That's an enormous question. I know. You're the guy to answer. I can get you some opinions off the cuff here. One of them I would say is there's obviously a spiritual warfare

of when truth is spoken, and the lie is always going to be present. Because there's that interpretation.

The second thing that I would say is that we all view everything through the context of our own existence. Right? I can't see the world outside of the way I saw it, and I think I'll get a little bit more historical and exagetical here and say the Bible was written in a time that in context, it made sense. And we try to interpret those actions through a 21st century mindset. And you know, I hear people say things. Oh, women were treated terrible in the Bible. I'm like,

no, not always. And now, and in some cases, yes. And in some cases, children were treated like, oh, oh my, oh my, oh, yeah, I even hear the pulp, for instance, making a comment recently about God will not hear the prayers and men who wage war. And it's like, and I immediately stopped and I'm like, hmm, and I'm like, I don't know if that's true because I've got documents of God specifically telling people to go to war. And I'm not promoting war or not promoting waring.

That's not a political conversation, but it's like our 21st century context is very different than the days of David. Right. It's, it's very David, like, when the, when the days that kings were the person who was out in the middle of the war, like the kings that I literally, the story of David and that Shiva actually, the story begins with, in the season where kings were

“a war, David didn't go. Like, that's how he was word in the temptation because in cultural context,”

he should have been at war. Yeah, that whole fall would have never happened. Had he been where he was supposed

to be. So it's like, the king, the man ever got his own heart, was supposed to be a war. Today we would find that absolute map is. So why do I think a lot of times that the Bible was taking our context at, I think, because contextually things change. I mean, the world of 100 years of it wasn't the same as the world is to be. Next, the other things that I would put in there is that we study the Bible most people, study the Bible for its relevance to their own lives,

and not study in the Bible is an objective truth and adapting me to it rather than it to me. I see it. So I, I, I, hell, it's a time that we'll always, you know, we'll God has a purpose for everything, and I'm like, oh, yeah, to tell me about that. It's like, well, you know, it says, you know, all things work together, you know, and I'm like, all things work together for good, and I'm like, hmm, finish that. Nope, finish that size. Well, it says all things work together for

the Bible, hmm, for those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose. So if you

curse doesn't apply to you. But we're not allowed to cherry pick and pull the things we want and call them true. Yeah, it's like, they're not okay. Yeah, very selected. Correct. So yeah, I best somebody answers, but I just feel like that people read, but they want to read without reading what they should read. And so most people that I know, that's not fair. People who I know who are, who are faith adjacent, they, they read for inspiration. They, they read for

and, and I follow you on Instagram. And I see that you read the Jesus calling, but by Sarah Yoh. Yeah, because you post pages out of you. Yeah, I might in every morning. Absolutely, I'm abroad at with me. Well, there you go. And I might, you know, Jesus calling. Great book. That's fantastic. I know you're a man of faith. And when you post a page out of Jesus calling, I know you reading that book is for genuine edification. And you're reading that for that purpose.

I know several other people who, on the daily post pictures from their Jesus calling reading, I'm like, I don't, and it's not mind a judge. I don't mean to make it that way. But like,

I don't think based on, you know, them by the fruits that most people that I never do in that

are genuinely seeking Christ in that reading. I think they're seeking inspiration. But it's more of a pox psychology than an actual faith that people want to believe the Bible that don't want them to live it. Yeah, and I think that's rubber hits the road on some of that stuff. So again,

“why do I think the people read the Bible and get different things and interpret different things?”

One end of the spectrum, because there is also an enemy of our soul who is going to do everything to distort Earth. Yeah. And he's very convincing. There's also people who are reading for inspiration rather than reading for comprehension out of your head, and contextually, everything in the story. I took the journey of really getting into it for me personally as it's like training. Like I told you, and it was training me to understand where my life

needed to go and how I was supposed to live and what I was actually missing in the way that I studied it and learned what it actually meant. But the words mean how they apply to myself today. And understanding, you know, the way that was spoken then and how it translates to now and to understand and piece it together. And then you know, you have to be willing. It's like the person that can't take instructor criticism. You have to be willing to accept what you're reading

as it's going to benefit you in the end. And to touch on the prayers that I put up there, you know,

I missed a day or two when I actually just forgot to post it and to tell people that never

click like or anything was like, what happened today? Like, why did you post that? And I was like, match up with you. I can't miss these days because it's it's I put that up there. So not so people think I'm so whole is to help them. Just I can't tell me people wrote me some word right by that book.

“She got it for me for my birthday. I think or you and brought me a couple. I read one of the”

morning, one at night and I thought, well, I'll share a couple of these and then it turns into a daily thing so that I'm people that don't read anything, they might actually be waiting to see it. Well, I'm sure you remember the purpose of the life, the Rick Bornbook that was such a runaway success so many years ago. And it's like, and I absolutely the first sentence of that book. If you remember, it was like such a big thing. It was it was literally four words. It's not about

you. I mean, first four words of that entire book, purpose driven life. What does it mean

to have purpose in your life? First of all, it's not about you. Yeah, it's it's a hard, it's a hard pill of swallow. Yeah, if you don't, if you don't feel it inside of you, like, and you can some people like to say it, but they don't mean it. Are they, and they think they do they trick themselves and just do, but then if you rub where hits the road and you break it down on and yeah, it'd take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself, is that true? A lot of people

have to sing no. And if you approach by the study, the sing where you approach health low. Yeah. Like, you're, you're a researcher, you're, you're an athlete. So you're absolutely performance driven. Yeah, in everything you do, which means if you decide that I had laugh, I better buddy of mine who's recently started going back to church and I'm thrilled to see it, because for so long, I'm like, dude, like, if you ever, you know, came over to the light side,

like, and he's such a dear friend and I'm like, if you ever made the step into fake, like, you'd be such a powerhouse. I'm like, because I know the way things. I know the way he trains. I know it out is physical routine. I know the way he runs his business. Like, I know everything about the way that he functions in that capacity. It's like, if you're a person who

“is just, I am all into whatever I do, which is you, like, go, like, just, I know, go. You have to,”

not just pray for certain things, because it sounds good. Do you have, like, when I had the actual desire for what I was praying for and I, and, and aside from, like, the family person, the people

understand what I pray for. And I pray for a powerful voice, you know, when I asked for strength,

“it's not a physical strength that's strength to endure everything that comes around me during the”

day to get a, to handle it, and to have the strength to keep going to do what I was put here to do. Those are the things that I pray for, like, virtues of, because people don't get differentiate knowledge and wisdom. They don't understand that there's a lot of smart people that have no wisdom and don't know. I do want to say, you know, the smartest people are the wise ones, not the ones that are book smart. So that doesn't get you but so far. It's how do you use it? You know, I don't,

I'm sure you've read the book that was a tough one for me at the time, that I think I should reread and, and, and I was thinking about that today, because I've, or maybe it's gestured,

there was a little piece of it. It's imitation of Christ, and it authors rough, like, though,

in the approach, like, it's rough, like, you read it and you're like, damn man, like, this too, like, the first time I read it, I was in Ford on vacation and I was reading, I was like,

“I don't know if I buy this, like, it's seriously. But you have to be able to endure and if you”

can't endure, then your purpose can't really be fulfilled, because you have no perseverance. And I think that's lacking. You said something admitted ago. A connection was made for me. So thank you for that. But you, you made a differentiation between the knowledge and wisdom. And I, we talked about AI a few minutes ago and I kind of want to draw this corally. Yeah. As we've, we're talking about a world of AI. I use the 1080 10 rule. And our teams,

all those, that is, like, 10 percent is how I structure everything to know what needs to happen.

Let AI do the 80 percent of the work. Yeah. The last 10 percent is, is it good work? Is it applicable to what we do? And when you started talking about the differentiation between knowledge and wisdom, I'm like, knowledge is the AI. Yeah. You know, I can automate knowledge nowadays, because there is no shortage of knowledge available. But it's incumbent upon us to have the wisdom to apply that, because all of the knowledge in the world without application is just data

plan. That's, like, how do we get the wisdom applied to it? And again, I'll say, you can know all of the right things about health and still be unhealthy. And you can do all the right things about theology and still be a spiritual mass. And you can know that I can, I can know all of the things there is to know about another human being and still have a terrible relationship if I don't apply those things. And the application to your point is actually where the human

difference takes place. And I think that's where we spent too much time here for too long.

“And I think the whole world is shifting where this is the value. It's like an empty cell, right?”

It's, it's, it's, you've got the structure. You might have the cellular membrane protecting you with the knowledge. But if you don't have the wisdom, you're my economist sucks. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you're missing them, posting the ordin part of it. Such a nerd analogy. I love you. That's it. From the former non science guy to the converted science. Yeah, I've laughed when you told me that it was the science was the subject I hated most. I just despised it. I absolutely,

I was a math guy. It's a busy. Yeah. I was a numbers in math guy, which also most people think sucks. And then I was a communications guy. That's, I mean, that, yeah, naturally for that. But yeah, I'm telling you, man, when that hit me and I realized it, I like, it's all I care about. I mean, aside from the the Bible readings and the study, my whole premise is now, I mean, it's obviously it's going to be nutrition and fitness. But that's still science.

If you think about it, food is science. I mean, 100% muscular and everything else that falls into anatomy of physiology is science. 100%. Yeah. It's just why I was eating. But all right. So I want to shift to something. You're on the back end of the conversation that we're both passionate about. I want to get into a little bit of the heart, heart health, cardiology, cardiovascular health. It seems to me that aside from the amount of misconceptions based around heart health and

what we can't do, what we can't cannot reverse, how we treat things. There's a, just this cascade of risen heart problems over the past, I don't know, 20, 30 years, maybe, where it's just like auto control at this point. What are some of the biggest contributing factors to that rise that it just continues to keep going and going? So I'm going to say several different answers. Yeah, this dough is a lot. Yeah, cardiovascular disease in general and to connect to the dots there with

everything we've talked about, which is crazy. It's like I spend a lot of time focused in cardiovascular house with some of my businesses and everything else. And I'm the functional medicine doctor by training like cardiovascular disease is so mystical. And I'm going to say that,

opinion of this is we call hypertension a diagnosis. And I arguably always say that high blood

pressure is a symptom. It is a downstream output to bad upstream inputs. And we're so busy treating this downstream issue that we're not dealing with the upstreams. Right? What are the things that we can control? I always control the controls, right? Like, yeah, what can I control up here so that this doesn't happen? And it's like, well, you didn't turn the faucet off, but you just keep pouring towels on the floor. And I turned the faucet off. Like, there, there was an easy

“fix here. And I think things like hypertension, cardiovascular disease, all of these types of things,”

they're input problems. Yeah. Yeah. And high blood pressure is symptomatic. But we've now called it a diagnosis. Like, it's literally an insurance code. This person is diagnosed hypertension, positions are required to rather than literally standard of care. As you can be sued, if a person comes in has high blood pressure during your medical examination, and you don't prescribe an anti-hypertensive. And it's like, so literally, we've created standard of care and

practitioner culpability if they don't, yeah, prescribe. Well, that's a business model. But by hearing that dealing with the upstream side of this, so to talk through what are some of those upstream, what one is we live in incredibly high stress lines. We talked to over 80% of the population talks about having chronic stress. Chronic stress, we can walk through the 17 different things that happen with that. But there's a huge issue related to chronic stress, which increases

“for us all production, which decreases, you know, prayers, sympathy, groupage response, which is our”

rest and digest mode, which means our bodies are not healing the way they should. Our arguably safe sleep is a huge problem for cardiovascular disease. Because we have almost glorified the smallest number of hours that we can process on. Like, I hear people be like, "Oh, three hours, I'm good

to go." I'm like, I would never wash like three hours because it's not that I wear that like a

badge of honor. But you and I are old enough to remember, you know, days of pulling all nighters, you didn't pull an all nighter and we're ashamed of it. Like, if you pull an all nighter, you told everybody about it. And you brag that you had pulled an all nighter, that's not, that's not exciting me. No, but a new sleep is leading to these issues. Nutrition. Yeah. Like, we can't starve our body if it's necessary inputs and then complain about the outputs.

Like, this is a thing. I'll say that even nutrition itself in that small category is completely misunderstood when we talk about cardiovascular waste. Because I'll get an example. What is the first thing that a doctor tells a patient from the nutritional standpoint

if they've been diagnosed with hypertension? You got it. Low sodium diet. And I always go to,

“"Oh, yes, that's what we want. We wanted to plead people's bodies of electrolytes. That'll absolutely”

help them heal." Yeah. Anyway, your heart really lost. It's really, absolutely. And again, good, good. Sorry. I'm not talking about trash table salt. But, I mean, if we're actually talking about real Salt Lake, your body can't have too much salt. Yeah. And they, well, no, that's how true. There was a study back in the 60s that actually showed the people who had, you know, high blood pressure also had high salt content in your body. It just to ask you,

do you think the premise behind that is the water retention of high salt that makes the heart were part of the list of premise? The department says that the study that was actually done back in that bleeder was in the 60s that said that cardiovascular disease or high blood pressure was actually associated with salt retention was actually a correlation, not a causation, that, yes, the people who had high blood retention also had high sodium levels. What they're missing

is that in absence of sugar, nobody has high sodium levels. So, okay, high sodium levels. And I always say like, if you're cooking a pot of spaghetti sauce, right? We're both Italian. What do you do if it's too salty? You throw in a little sugar. Or do you do if it's too sweet? You throw in a little salt. Those things balance natural. Yeah. So, sugar intake has been on an incredible spike throughout the last several decades. Process food is on incredible spikes throughout the last

several decades. Well, we've taught people that the bottom of the pyramid is grains and carbohydrates at which why? All of those carbohydrates are just going to convert. They're going to convert into glucose. They're not going to be absorbed because most people are, again, my next item is going to be movement and exercise because we become a sedentary world on top of that. But I've got absolutely no glycodone absorption. If I'm not moving my muscles, like your muscles are glucose, you know,

machines that literally absorbing and expanding all of it. So, now you end up with elevated glucose levels in the body, which is waiting to just astronomical levels of diabetes. They all of these things. But you got to be very careful because you're making too much sense. You're probably asy and at a target on melee. But the truth is, is like, we talk about blood pressure as being this

these things apply. And what's happening is all of these things that we talk about are 100%

“causing endothelial dysfunction. Yes. And endothelial dysfunction in and of itself is what's causing”

this blood pressure problem because the endothelial lying, the cardiovascular system is actually what regulates blood pressure of the body. The body has an innate intelligence that 100% knows how to keep itself alive. Like, there's nothing you've ever done to yourself that has killed you yet. I have evidence of that. And I guarantee you've been hurt more than enough times and you've healed. You can. And your body knows what it's doing. I don't think about, okay, how breathe. Now breathe. Yeah,

now breathe. It does. And blood pressure regulation is one of those things. But it's regulated at the endothelial little. And when we have nutritionally or behaviorally or lifestyle environmentally through through everything from EMF to environmental toxins and whatnot, chemtrails, you name everything. All of these things affect everything, but that endothelial dysfunction

“actually leads to the body not remembering how to do what it is created to do. Okay. And the secret of”

that is restore endothelial function. Yes, soar endothelial function. And nine out of ten people will not deal with this sentiment. How do we do that? Or we restore endothelial function? Again, multiple ways. One of them innate all of these terrible things that we've already talked about. Those things like sugar reduction, things like nutrition, things like exercise. One of the companies that I work with. And as we mentioned in a sitting at right in front of me is a is a medical

device that actually specifically targets endothelial dysfunction, which is called Zona, the Zona Plasma and it actually specifically targets the endothelial into our isometric exercise. Okay, and you're an exercise guy, you get this. Like that there's a difference between a

aerobic exercise and anaerobic exercise. A aerobic exercise is what we're used to. I always say

it's the sit-up. At the concentric movement, followed by the eccentric movement, the up, the down, the up, the down, the isometric, which is Zona. It's more like a pike. Okay, it's a holding the static resistance level for a period of time and causing the body that temporary muscle tension hells it that exact same static resistance moment. What Zona does is it actually kind of lets you do a plank, but it's letting you do it using grip strength rather than you know,

asking grandma to get on the floor and do a plank, right? Yeah. So as that happens and the endofelium ages over time, this actually helps reverse that aging. And while it's weird how it does it, I say there's two two major things that contribute there. The first one is when your body moves into that sympathetic nervous system, it's helping you learn how to move between sympathetic and pyrus at the there. And with talk, we've talked a lot about the nervous system and how we live

in the stressed out world. Most people get stuck. Yeah. And they've ever trained their nervous system, how to calm down, which means even when they go to sleep, there, there are basket case, even in their sleep, but it's sleep quality suffers even if they actually get their eight hours. Yeah. What this is doing is that that tension. No one puts their body under stress intentionally without the body wanting to fight back. So when I'm doing a contraction on my arm, where I'm

holding it at a static resistance, it's uncomfortable. Yeah. It actually ships the sympathetic nervous

system. And when the sympathetic nervous system was triggered in the brain, the body's first response

at a millisecond level is nitric oxide release. Okay. And nitric oxide, we all know body's natural vasodilator, things start happening. Right. One of the things that people don't realize is as we age, particularly in women. And our cardiovascular health is such a bigger problem for women than it is men, which is completely backwards from everything we were brought up to believe. I know. Because we think of bad having our attack now, mom. Right. Right. And especially because

estrogen is one of the body's primary vasodilators and his women are postmenopausal.

“It actually that vasodilation becomes either worse. For most men, the truth is this nitric oxide”

production and the vasodilation and the early signs of heart issues. Normally starts in the formula ED. Wow. It's the most visible sign that you'd have a circulatory from. Yeah. Yeah. And most noticeable. And yet what do we do when a person is suffering or the rectal dysfunction? Give him a pill or yeah. We're not fixing systemic problem. We're fixing a symptom. This is the bodies. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, right on the dashboard. It's a warning. I should get something's wrong.

Check engine. Oh, okay. Well, let's just put some tape over that light. No, I can't see the warning light anymore. We must be better. And it's like, no, all guys, that's not the deal. So it's only, you're not only getting an electric oxide boost, but part

and body at all times. So sodium gets released to stop the muscle from a spasomy, but in that

“process, potassium also was released. And if you think about an agent in the theory, it was kind of like a”

sponge that's begun to lose its moisture. So that sponge kind of dries out as the tassie moves through the end of the elium actually softens the end of the elium again. So you're forcing this reaction. I say it's like, I said, you know, using this is like a combo shot to the corner pocket. Yeah. I do this exercise. The exercise causes the sodium release, the sodium release, then causes the potassium release, the potassium release, then softens the end of the elium. And with the end of

the elium wakes up, it restores that an agent intelligence, the body do go, oh my gosh, I know what's going on here. Like, this is super cool. And I say like, it's the ultimate biorech, which is why I got involved with the company because I'm like, this totally makes sense to be like, it's, it's a hard story to tell because the average person is no idea what you're talking about. And we trained people to believe that we are a symptom reduction, healthcare country. All we do is focus on symptoms.

“Yeah, I know. And if all we do is focus on the symptom, we never actually fared out”

the upstream. I'm glad you talked about sodium potassium. I've been talking about the importance of those ratios for, well, the reason I started talking about those so long ago is people were wanting to know what caused water retention with HGH use in MK677. And I took me to uncover that the main problem was this because we eat so much sodium and not enough potassium and ratios for the last. Nothing wrong with sodium, but people eat so many processed foods and things that are holding

so much extra and like you said the bad kind. And you know this, people don't realize like,

everybody always comes up with the oh, it's already eat that much protein,

thinking they have to eat so much when a reality, the thing that's lacking in the diet is potassium. And yet, the problem is you can't supplement your way to proper potassium. It has potassium's limitation. I boy, it is 99 milligrams. Patas, that is it. But with three percent, they could die. And because you will actually stop your heart. If you oversupplement potassium, like see a half to deal with Patricia, I eat a ton of potassium. But I have the

potassium pill that's prescribed because I have this like severe low potassium issue consistently.

“My mom had that. Yeah. I, you know, I think the part of it is this over sweating and training”

and the easy of dehydration. And I was on jardy hands for a heart like hogging up. I say heart failure, but it's it was just the improve ejection fraction. And that was drained. So I have the, how the 10 pill for potassium I take twice a day. And then it stopped all the heart palpitations because of potassium, which is like draining. You know, so I get it under control. I, you don't want to live off those forever. But you know, like you said, you can only put so much

in like such some powders that have more in there. But if you don't, if you're just relying on a supplement,

not eating it, it's a problem, right? And realistically, and you tell me what you think, I, I always tell

people at the minimum 3500 milligrams. But ideally, more like 47. 47 is the real number. The real number. The 35 is the we don't really want to hear the truth. But we think we can get by with this amount. But it's not that it's not enough. It's not. And, and the amount of potassium, like what is after a bit, what the number is. It's been a while since I've looked at the success, but it's, like, only 17% of the population is even ingrained now. Like, I mean, it's a ridiculous number.

And if you ask people what they're doing to, to tape, it's like, I mean, you know, but now, if it's not even close, every, every single time because you don't would realize that, like, you don't, by name and your way out of Lopinaya, and that's not even close to the best food. And it's not even that close for you, Perrette. I'm not, you know where I get a ton of potassium is avocados. Avocados exactly now. I was going to say, because you're not really getting potassium,

much of also getting the healthy fat. I can't. I get because I eat so much avocado. I normally get almost a thousand milligrams or more just from the amount of avocado I eat every day. I love that. Yeah, probably this is I like my avocado smashed up with tortilla chips. Next the issue. Oh, hey, that's my kind of, I love avocados. But, you know, I did a good guac. I didn't start even to even eating them till about, I don't know, year, year and a half,

though, that's so funny. I hated avocado's my entire life. And probably like 10 years ago, I went to to lunch with my sister and my dad Monday. They order guacamole and like, I got chilies or something terrible. And I'm like, and I just took a scoop and was like, wow, this is really good. What have I been doing all that nowadays like, I will put avocado at anything. You know, I didn't like it because I thought I didn't like it by the way it looked.

Totally. Yeah, and they actually ate it. I was like, it's just like the gently. I really rocked avocado's on burgers. Everything. I really right now. I did not start eating until about a

and in kind of towards the end here because I think this is important. And I talk about this

freely, but I want your thinking and see if it coincides with my thinking. You know, I, I had to talk about things I found with my heart, the calcium score and having some blockage there, finding it. It's not great, but early enough. And then like low rejection fraction later. And I argue, yeah, I need this order, but I think the main problem was this low fat diet if you're a fats for my whole life. And I think that all of those foods that we thought were healthy and me

doing that for so many years from like 11 till 42 of starvation over training and it's not given my body everything. And we're laughing, but in all honesty, I lived on vegetables, oatmeal, egg whites and factory yogurt for years and years and years of no meat, no fats, no this. And the minute that I changed that not only did I get more lean and cut up from doubling calorie and taking going from 15 grams of fat a day to 130, right? Yeah. And then my all of my heart numbers

that are supposed to be terrible from all the fat drastically got better and like all of the things

“I was deficient and just opened up like everything. The only thing that went up was my LDL went up a”

little bit of course, but my HD, I want up by 30 points. Right. Well, there's you got a bell. Yeah. So I wonder for you, because then I had a low ejection fraction. I believe this from the over train and the drug use and the majority has helped. But now I got it back for like 50, which is still not I want it 55 to 70, but do you think that that low fat diet was the main contributing factor to and do you think it's a contributing factor to potential plaque or

ferrosclerosis build up from those foods and then starving from the nutrients that we need? Yeah. I would argue. I'll say two things. One. The same thing we talked about earlier. I don't know you're exact physiology. Yeah. And that's or no. Because other things may be a play too. So I

never want to over generalize. Yeah. Something. There's more issue for sure. The answer is

could be yeah. I don't disagree that that's a thing. But we also, I mean, you hear about stuff left the blood type diets and this type of stuff, right? Everybody goes and becomes this brand advocate for you. On keto, I'm only on carnivore and oh, if you get into them, why is that?

“It's like, everybody goes on this, this attack of, you know, my way of doing things is the best way”

of doing things. And like we started the whole conversation. And then everybody should do exactly what I do. And while on a big fan, big fan of high protein mocarb diets, I think it's the right way that your body's used to fighting. I'm also a big fan of fasting for the purpose of autophagy and all these reasons. Because I think that is good for everyone. The reality is is that we need to be able to it. I personally, I run my blood work every six months. But I gave my blood work

down every six months. And mine, huh? How do three every six months? Yeah. But six is good. I mean, I do six months. I used to do a year. Yeah. Six of our RA just really good. Pretty normal. Like six every six months. I'll redo all my blood markers. And then again, because I'm a normal performer, I gamify, no, what can I get the next panel to look like? Yeah. Like here's what was off one, this one. What do I want to do with this one? And I'll do it more often. Like I

do want to January. And there was some stuff on there that did not like. And I'm like, hmm, okay, what was that? I'm like, wait a minute here. I don't think I fasted the morning. I did the blood work. So, and then I'm like, what did I? Or did Kirk, right? Trying to like, you know, like,

I didn't remember. Yeah, as I always have him come to my office and do it. Yeah, be yeah. So,

play mobile full bottom as the as our doll. In the morning, they came to do it. I was like, I don't normally eat anything in the morning, but then I forgot. And it'll steal it totally didn't it threw off a bunch of numbers that actually I was not happy with. So I ran the march. But I was like, well, I'm going to go ahead and give everything I can to get these in line before the blood panel comes due in March. And again, with only two months between. Yeah,

like, if something is wrong that concerns me, I'm going to make behavioral lifestyle changes for those two months and see if I can pull this back over control. Yeah, by March, literally everything

“was no, I love it. The only thing that was off was my AST was was elevated, even higher than it was”

in January, which was interesting. But AST being higher, March didn't surprise me because my AST was fine. AST was perfectly in range. AST was high. So it's kind of like, I'm like, well, that doesn't sound like a liver issue. Actually, AST can be elevated just based on a heavy tree. Yeah. So I was so lily. This is a muscular tension. Yeah, I damaged issue. You're trained. That's fine. But like, everything else is back in control. So when I look at what diet is appropriate for somebody.

And so on, well, it depends where are you? They're tools. They're not meant to be used forever.

and bitch and complain and say they start calling people names because they're preaching about

something that's like, dude, listen, these nutrients are here for a purpose. There's there's three things there for a reason because we do need them at certain points. I'm not saying just like you, I prefer a lower carb guy, but there's times where we need more acts. And you can't stay metabolically flexible if you just are just radic angles that's not, no. And sometimes I do it because I'm regimented and I'm like, shit, I can't, I got be careful here. You know what I mean? Like,

and the thing is, I'm going to add one other layer in there too. It's yeah. If you're bidding all these lapses have done, are you dealing with all of the issues that actually affect absorption? Because you may be eating right and not even absorb as it was to take it

like, what are you doing to try gut health? Yeah, because you may just be passing all the nutrients

right, right? Yeah, your body is no idea what to even do with what's taking place. I guess that found not in the gut health. So, there are people who eat grape and continue to struggle and can't move it. They're spending thousands of dollars in supplements over the course of a month and you know, I laughed at it. I worked for me at one point. He saw my supplements stack

“which is absurd and it's true and anyone is like, I got to get some chips that, what do you take?”

Tell me what you take so I can do that and I'm like, what? The door. I'll tell you what I do, but what I do is because of my list of labors. Or I is not because this is what I recommend for him. So, he's just, I'll just give me that. So, I'll just look all these things up anyways and I'm like sure whatever. So, he took the list and I've got all my supplements stack all organized and it's in four different categories and one is, you know, one of my categories is for nutritional

supplementation. Like, if there are things that I just don't eat enough of, I need to note out a supplement that. Yeah, one is longevity focused and then one is is anti-oxid and focused and then y'all, whatever. And one is performance stack. Like, there are some things I do that I just do for performance space. They have nothing to do with, uh, within the, I'll do spirumity why. Because I think it's just good for anybody at, at the same tail and the same thing with risk baratrol. You're like,

all the, but I've keep this set. Hey, determined. It comes back tomorrow. It was a couple of those items. Like, I looked up all your supplements. He's like, you're like swallowing a car payment. Like, mm-hmm. Like that. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, I can't, I can't afford that. No one asks you to. Don't you don't have to. Yeah, get back to the basic. That's it. Figure

“out your nutrition. Figure out your lifestyle. If we get this, I'm at a send dude. String it, right?”

Yeah. It is. And supplements are there to supplement what you're missing. So in our subtle, you know, I, I wanted to tell you this, um, mean Queenie went on vacation. We go over your floor. And I got home from the trip and, you know, I trust me. I spend my time to the ocean when I'm there. Like, that's all I care to do with. They kind of older. And I, I live our values. We're off the chart at that man. I use some Psalms and I get that. Okay,

this is, you know, which get down our quick. You know, and this was six months prior. But I, you know, and uh, for two and a half years, my ALT and my AST work, they started in 300's and my doctor after, like, it wasn't that big a deal, which I knew, you know, better off than it was. But I, I just kept hovering at like, 119 and 90 for ALT, AST. And I just couldn't do a, you know, sick. He's a good friend of mine. We did two fiber scans and he's like, man, you have the

liver of like, he, it was he, but it's like the best that he ever she on fiber scan. I just did a city scan after my liver was doing crazy stuff. I just did a scan with them and they're like, no, your liver's like, go easy. Yeah, showing off. Ray, I definitely showed me. Well, you know what? I, I don't want, I'm not pushing a product here by any stretch with this. This was my key. It was glued to fire. Yeah. And that's doctor Patel, who I think is one of the most brilliant

and kind doctor. Now I am Patel. It does oral well. Good, it's running. He is, he does topical stupid fluid. If my dad's where I started to use and I had the, and I was talking about this on thing. I'm my video about, when I do a video, I bites it. I'm not going to sit here and spew a bunch of BS about this product for science. I'm showing you right here on this paper that in one or two and a half months when I was stuck for two and a half years. This is down to 40 and

38. That is not by accident. I didn't change anything. Nothing. Most people would do a fine on the fish. That's it. It is like the body's natural and anti-vacitor. That is like the the best anti-vacitor in the world and most people are deficient. I am. Yeah, as I know that and guy and as a good friend. And hence, it says, they're amazing. The topical aura. I rub it

“rub it on. I, I still do it on my stomach because that's what he told me on my podcast. But”

regardless of anywhere that you don't have hair, Ryan and I'm telling you, man, I'll never

not use it again. That version. But well, because things like that and my even my mercury level

up when I changed my diet, it was deep a frickin' salmon like six days a week, which is not ideal. I don't care how good it is for you. And I'm sure that me winding that down hell. I need to actually use more his prawn. I'll just just talk in with him at A4M, honey, Westpone B. And he's awesome, Gyle. He's an extra hand supposed to be on his podcast actually in the month or so. He's really shit. Yeah, he's one of my few partners that I work with one of my

air if you. And I mean, me and Dave are the only two non-doctors that he acts. They are partners. Yes, he has facilities. But yeah, and he's fantastic. And his product because I had the exact same issue with mercury. But I actually discovered this is crazy. When I was 14 or 15, I had to a maldo's a while. And literally I was doing an oligascan, an oligascan, you familiar with the oligascan, right? Yes, years ago, didn't oligascan and found out mercury toxicity. So on, and it

could never occurred to me that it is involved as we are in this space. Sometimes the obvious. And I

“ended up going to a two a biological dentist and they put on their hazmat suits and I think else to”

get him out and got rid of the amalgams. And I'm like, okay, now I need to deal with mercury toxicity because nothing that I was doing was working. And I was using the fluidified and no, isn't my body. Like I haven't really had in the near maldo's, but yeah, I actually just ran into him a West Palm Beach. You know, I met him when we went to eighth ram in December of 24. Yeah, I went there specifically to watch a speech. And I normally don't go to a lot of

speeches and we got in there a little early and he was talking and I just was like enthralled. And I go do well with speeches. I'm just like, I get, I'm all over the place, right? So I get that's got to be something special and I couldn't, I couldn't stop listening. Well, I'm going to tell you my, the first time I'm not, now I was the opposite. I was speaking and he ended up coming up to me. Oh, after this beach and introducing himself, I was like, no, I don't know this guy. And then he

introduced him to like, so Brook is like a really, we were actually, I was talking at a, um, hyperbaric convention in Pensacola. And funny enough, I was talking to there like VIP group. But my first book that I ever published is called Data Clients. And it, it's literally like a juxtaposition between the way that we deal in personal relationships and the way we deal in business relationships. Well, the same thing. Yeah. And as I, so I was actually talking to this group of practitioners

about how do you increase your volume through your clinic and how do you end up with sticky or business? And so I saw it for sort of more of a business lecture. And um, and it was so funny because nine comes up to me at the end and he's like, I just want to introduce me to say, you just said, what, I've been saying for years. And my 10 needs to know this. And while I'm like, so we've been buddies all like those years ago. He's so fun. It's funny because I saw him speak and then I started

my podcast and like six months later when the stuff start rolling in and then that somebody wrote

“me wanting to get him on my show. And that's how I met him. And then I just hated it off of him.”

Just like he's glass. He's good friends with my buddy. I need to introduce you, um, Sanjay Bolcheraj. You know, Sanjay, no, he says goes about a curious cardiologist. All you

got to introduce. Super cool guy. Yeah. Sanjay's amazing. And he's actually really good friends

at night as well. I would love that. Yeah. Well, I guess as usual when we talk, we the long. I know I'm like, this has got to be longer than I think it is. Queenie Warren may a little bit ago in the time when I just kind of ignored because I had so many things I still want us. I appreciate that the, the notice, but I just kind of know whatever. Oh, man. Well, that's the beauty of not have me being in my paid studio when they come up. There I got a stop or they're going to charge me

for over just set. Well, though, you're hearing this. And that's what I say. Like, no overtime. No. Well, dude, like I said, one, I mean, like the biggest thing to you again for what you did for me yesterday. And, you know, I know you played a role in me coming here that I didn't

“even know about till yesterday. And I think the, the, not even, I don't want to call it a friendship.”

Because I feel like it's like a family that quick. And I just know, and I don't say that lightly. And I don't offer that or it's not like it's some big deal that you're that I consider you that, like, for you, I don't want to act like that for to me it is. And I told you, I meet thousands and thousands of people, but the ones that make the biggest mark for me are the ones that I want to be around forever. And you're one of those few and far between. So thank you for that. Thank you for

what you do. Thank you for the message. Thank you for, you know, I always want to say when somebody's

bold in what they do, but it's just for doing what your spouse do. For doing God's will and doing what we're intended to do, I appreciate that more than anything. All of this is amazing. It is.

the messaging man. It's just the messaging that from one to another. That's why we got to stick

“together. You know, so thank you for all of this. I can't. It's been a, it's been a blast that”

didn't know you last while in the feeling couldn't be well mutual. Well, you are the man, my friend,

and I appreciate all of this. And I have a feeling this is part one of a million that we're

“ready to. So, well, thank you. And, you know, it's been a blast. You agree, you're amazing.”

And you're kind of part of the fixtures now. I love it. Well, count me in for good. Now you're

stuck with us. Zulf, who is he? She's part of the package. So, um, from changing lives and destiny

“from this amazing conference that I hope to be a part of forever now as well with my good friend,”

Mark Young. Stay tuned for Plainmorecom. Dylan Jamelli and Mark Young. Say it enough.