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My guest and I had an amazing conversation

on his show that has been about a month now. I was more excited to come on your show than any show I've ever done. I flew out there, saw a beautiful Utah, got the whole experience with you.

And I swear, you know, I got introduced to you by our friend Benizotti. And he told me you were his mentor. And then I started to get really into everything you were doing. And I was like, oh, I have to beat this guy.

He is so perfect for me, just the way that you talk, how charismatic you are, the knowledge base. I mean, that goes without saying, but it's the personality that I was drawn to. And then talking to you and seeing the faith

and everything that goes along with who you are, I would say you're brand, but it's just you.

“And I think that the reaction that you get from people”

is so more than justified and what you do and how you help people, it is, for me, it's inspiring and it's encouraging and it actually motivates me to try to do more. But I can't give you enough accolade on an introduction.

I can run down a list of things off their podcast host, functional health, former chiropractor, you do it all. And I just, I love you, brother. And I appreciate you coming here to see me.

So my friends, Dr. Daniel Pampa. - Yeah, thanks for having me. We did have a blast that day. - We did. - We're gonna have a blast today.

- We're gonna have more of it. - And we're gonna educate some people

on some amazing topics, but yeah, you know,

I said this right before we started recording here, your story just blew me away, captivated me. When we went on and on, I even realized it was,

“you know, beyond two hours I think, but it's simple.”

- Yeah, I mean, honestly, I just, I felt like you had so much to offer because of what you've been through. I, you know, I was lecturing in Africa one time. And this was in Bobway.

And there was two big leaders in Zimbabwe at that time. Mingabe and a guy named Gatsy. It was like, even good. Okay, I'm telling them. And the people, you know, people love Gatsy

because, you know, this guy was changing the nation. This guy was ruining it, right? - Right. - So anyway, here I am at this leadership conference. And first time, there's presidents of countries in the room.

I mean, it was a big deal. And it's the first time I was lecturing with a interpreter, right? And that was weird because I was, there was a timing thing, right? - Right.

- So it was kind of a little bit awkward. I was like, not in my game, right? But anyway, so after I've done speaking, Gatsy comes in a brisk pace down, right down the center of the hour, right towards me.

“And I'm like, oh my god, like, first time is what did I say?”

That's what I, what did I say? I'm like, I must have said something. Maybe it was the interpreter, right? I don't, but I could tell he was coming for me. So I start walking off and of course he meets me.

And he looks me in the eyes as Dr. Pompa. Your authority doesn't come from your education. Your brilliance, your issue, that. And it comes from the victory God gave you. And he turned around and walked away.

And I said, like, what did I say that made him say that? And I didn't even process like, we meant by it. And I was just like, processing what I made him say that. And I was, not even understand what was good or bad. This is what he said.

Now, in hindsight, looking back, I understand what he meant. Meaning that my story, your story, your story, my story,

but it's where our authority is.

“Meaning if you're going to change lives,”

your story is where you change it from. But as you told your story, I realized how much authority you had for people out there that were just suffering. You know, dealing with addictions, dealing with, you know, because here you are on the other side,

making a difference. So your authority comes from the victory God gave you. I love it. Anyway, it was years later that I realized, you know, what he meant.

You know, it was like I realized that God just laid that on his heart like that. So it wasn't something that I said. It was just something God gave him. And he's a man of God.

So he just got gave it to him. And he was going to tell me. And he rushed down the out of tell me. So I'm telling you the same.

Isn't it amazing how like your faith works though,

because you understand things at a moment. But then it never ends. You can read the same reading over and over and you take something different from it every time. So what you're saying too is so true is I knew a lot.

And I keep that and it resonates. And then it it's it rears its head later. What it actually means. And then you get it. Yeah, nothing as it took me years to get it.

Yeah. And there was a time where I I forgot about it frankly. And it was something like this, right? And I was like, well, let me tell you what's so and told me once.

It was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that is it. You know, and through the years I've watched that. You know, the lives of the change. I was lecturing, I had like a little meet and greet here and Scottsdale and a woman came up to me.

It was like, I heard your story. And that was me. And I joined your program. And let me tell you how not just my life changed. But my families and she went on and she told me her old story.

But again, it was my story that she said she trusted. Because she had spent a lot of money doing a lot of things. And she heard my story and was like, OK, you know, I trust that because that's me. Yes.

So yeah, likewise, you know, you have an opportunity to change a world because of what you've been through. That's it. And you are. Well, and I appreciate that and that brings us to yours.

Because who you are and what you became is shaped around everything that happened to you and what you went through. And I mean, I know your story well, but a lot of people may not. And I want to get into that. I generally don't start there.

But yours is so personal and incredible.

And it really shapes who you are and why you are who you are today. So yeah, it was around 1999, the end of 1999, 2000. And your life was very good. I'm going to be honest, I had two young boys at the time. I have five kids now.

There's a whole story there. And you know, great relationship, great business. You know, as cranking, I was a structural correction carpractor of time. I mean, huge busy office purpose driven.

Like, I'm telling you when I say that I mean it, life couldn't be better. You know, it was exactly the view to envision a great life to be, I was cycling. I was racing bikes at the time.

And so I was doing a lot of training.

“I would say it would be the one addiction that I had, right?”

It was like I loved the train. And I was racing mountain bikes to the expert level. I was a cat three and other people know that is in the, it's kind of a moderate level of, you know, cycling, a road cycling.

But anyway, but I was training on the road for mountain by racing. That was Mexico Ortiz. I was putting it in probably 300 some miles a week. Oh, okay.

And people put a lot more than that in. Because I was so busy, I had to specifically train. And I was very good at the training part. So that said, I thought I was over training, right? Because I was dialed in to how my intensities,

how to vary that, et cetera. So I cut back. I cut back on the training, but I wasn't getting better. So I literally remember I took two weeks off. And I swore I was more fatigued.

And then these weird headaches started.

And then just things I've never dealt with before,

like weird anxiety would come and go. You know, just like fatigued to a whole different level for no reason, even if I did sleep, like a perfect night wake up, just like, man, I'm dragging myself out of bed

and never happened. Then my hair started thinning. So I thought it's my thyroid. I couldn't adapt to stress anymore. Even my baby screaming, my kids, it would be like,

I'd flip out. I mean, and I wasn't that guy.

“But my wife was like, my gosh, who are you turning into?”

And I'd sit back and be like, I don't know, right? I mean, I really was like, gosh, you know, I had this anger. I never had that before. Then it was like insomnia, then panic attacks.

And sound sensitive, gut problems went chasing food things. I mean, so many things that people deal with today, that's what I was dealing with. Like many people, I was looking things up with the internet wasn't right like today.

I remember going to book stores

and just like reading people's books. I mean, that's like that kind of crazy.

“But, and like I said, I did say my journals are fried.”

I would really assist the adrenals and it helped a little bit my anxiety would get worse. Then I started dressing my thyroid and I felt like that some things get better, some things we get worse, but I wasn't better.

And I was at one point online and I found mad hatters disease. - Yeah. - Do you know what that is? - Yeah, I've heard of it. - Yeah. - Yeah.

People making felt hats got mercury poison, even lead was involved. So they got very sick and they were known as mad hatters. I mean, literally, I had every symptom. I was mad as a hatter, as the saying goes.

But I went and got a blood test. And, matter of fact, that day I went to Allegheny General Hospital and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. I met with a head of toxicology. He ran mercury, a bunch of other tests.

I ran every test we could think about. I remember it was around $5,000. The Resire members, 'cause my insurance didn't pay for it. And I had to pay for it. I should've negotiated it, I probably didn't.

I didn't have the money at the time.

“Anyway, bottom line was it all came back relatively normal.”

To the point, he said to me, "Son, you're healthier than me." And that was not a good day. If he said, we figured it out. You have a form of cans, I'd be like,

"Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, at least I know what I'm up against, right?" But that's not what he said. So, and I went to many other doctors and it started to just get to the point where they would send me out of the door

with a psychotropic drug, like meaning. You're crazy, you know, try this. That'll help your anxiety and the crazy you're getting, you know, here you go. You know, and there was times where, you know,

the drug might have helped because I was out of my mind. What? I was crazy.

I always said I was crazy, but there was a reason.

Right. But so, fast forward. I was working with a very bright endocrineologist trying to balance the hormones. Yeah.

What do I do I had? And so, he said to me, you know, I think you have mercury toxicity.

“He based that based on my weird ups and down body temperature”

swings. And I said, I thought so too, but I did the blood test and it came out normally. So, that's the wrong test. That would be if you were a mad hat or meaning

if you were getting exposed every day. Yeah. It would show up in your blood, but you're not. It's probably chronic if it's that. You know, so he said, do this challenge test

and see if it's in your tissues. And that's an indicator. But even if it's not, it could just be in the brain, you know, bubble block. And I said, where do you think I got it from?

So, I did the test. And knowing that, I had all kinds of high heavy metals. So, my pathways of getting rid of it were shut down for sure. Okay.

But I said, what do you think I got it from? He said, did you have any dental work done around the time this all happened? So, I'm like, I know the date this happened because I had my cycling journey, so I had journal.

And I opened that up my training journal. Got the date. I called my best friend who had, I knew put a gold crown in. Took his silver filling out.

Those fillings contained 50% mercury. People didn't know that 50% mercury. And I said, hey, Derek, what's the date? Like, what did I get that filling done, right? And I knew it was around that time

because when my symptoms start, but he gave me the date. And it was just days after that as when I started recording, I didn't feel good today. I saw I didn't ride.

I didn't like, and then it was like the next week. And I was, you know, man, I had the worst day. I literally tracked myself when it all happened. It was after I got two silver fillings removed. Look, that was the straw that broke the camels back.

- Right. - That just vaporized a lot more mercury that I already had stored up. I wore contact lenses in the '70s, '80s and '90s. - Yeah.

- The saline solution that we used had thymarisol in it, which is a mercury derivative. We were putting it right through our brains, yeah. They outlawed it in the early '90s, but people that wore contact lenses had no idea

that they were putting mercury directly into their brain via their optic nerve. And so that was another huge source. There was a time where I was really into lifting weights. I was hanging down on a tuna.

I lived at the beach at the time. So I had all kinds of mercury sources throughout my life. And I had fillings in, which is those fillings vapor, 50% mercury, they vaporized mercury right into the brain. So wow, ladies.

The trash study, it was one of the first studies,

it was a German study. The number of silver fillings in mom's mouth is proportional to how much mercury they find in the baby's brain on autopsy. So where did I get my first load?

My mother had a bunch of fillings.

Of course, the contact lenses.

Of course, the fillings in my own mouth, the tuna. And then one day when they drilled the fillings out and vaporized more mercury, blah, boom, the bucket overflowed. I was also at that time training a lot, which is a stress that your body has to adapt to.

And I lived in a low grade moldy home as well. No one else was sick, but it became something that once I was challenged, it wasn't till I got out of that home that I was like, oh, that was stressing me too. One of the things I teach, and I've trained doctors

about these topics for over 20 years,

“is that you have to figure out people's perfect store, meaning”

it's not one thing that typically makes them sick. It's a combination of typically three stressors, like me, that boom, and all of a sudden the bottom falls out. That's what happened to me. So it just compounds and builds and builds over time

and that before you know it, it just boom. Yeah, and so people think, they want the one answer, they want the one pill, one powder potion lotion, whatever it is, the one magic, the one biohack, the one that's not how it works, they want the 10 day cleanse,

they want the, yeah, it's not how it works. You know, and training doctors for so many years,

that's always been my message.

Number one, people don't get better just by giving them supplements. Today people don't get better just by changing their diet. It's a, it's a, an accumulation, a stockpiling, a bio accumulation of toxins over someone's life,

and then that bucket overflows. So you have to look at someone's life in evaluate these exposures and stressors, deal with that cause directly, appropriately. That's how you get people well today.

So that's been my message and I'm not changing it. No.

“So what did, what did you have to go through”

then to fix this issue to counteract the mercury problem? Good question. So I still had fillings in my mouth. Yeah, matter of fact, he had put gold in. Is that worse?

Well, it was worse because I still had probably four silver fillings in and it creates galvanism. Galvanism is a an electrical current. It's a battery effect. You know, the battery is it's two opposing metals

in an acid. That's exactly what happens in your mouth. I said, when people have a brown, a implant, a braces. I mean, there's a lot of reasons somebody could have bridge, could have metal in their mouth.

And then they have silver fillings. Studies show the mercury in those silver fillings pours out of those fillings when you have that galvanic situation. That current makes that mercury vaporize

even that 10 times the amount starts going into the brand. The moment you have two opposing metals in your acid mouth. And that's what happened to me. Put that gold in there.

And I still had fillings in. I remember the day that I got the gold out. And because I had read how Huggins he was probably the most famous dentist that, you know, really, I lost his license, you know,

speaking about silver fillings containing mercury, et cetera, and how to remove them. But he talked about how the gold even takes on some of the mercury vapor itself. He had to get the gold out.

Anyways, I got the gold out. And it was like, I could sleep through the night. Like Mozart. So I would say, yeah. Once the mercury started coming out of my brain,

then I regained all my nights, then the anxiety went away. But there was a level of that weird anxiety that went just by getting that galvanic reaction out of my mouth. The brain hates that electrical current. It's measurable.

One of the things now Huggins did was measure the current in people.

And you know, he would always say take the highest negative

silver filling out first as an order and never cross the midline. Anyway, a lot of that stuff I'm working now in my program with doctors dentists around the country who not only know how to remove these things correctly.

“And then we start, you have to understand,”

you can't just get the fillings out. That vapor turns to inorganic mercury and is locked in your brain for the life. It's the half life's longer than you live. So you have to get it out of the brain

and that's a big part of what I've been teaching for many years, the safe way to get these things out of your brain. It's not just mercury. The amount of aluminum that we're getting from cooking in aluminum foil and to persparence.

Jet fuel contains aluminum. Because it literally they formulated a jet fuel that makes jets more efficient. They can fly longer and save billions of dollars. So, but jet fuel has aluminum in it.

And yeah, and it's, you know, literally getting into our water supply or food supply. Point is, is that we have a lot of exposures

that are deemed like in the brain.

Typically, when people don't feel well

“and can't figure it out, have hormone challenges”

and can't figure it out. And by the way, the control tower sits in there in the center of your brain. It's the hypothalamus pituitary. That's what runs your thyroid.

The hypothalamus takes in all the information from all your hormonal needs and needs in the body. Takes it in. That's like the antenna that takes in and says, "Okay, what do we need?"

And then it tells the pituitary. Okay, we need more thyroid hormone down there. We need more this. We need more that, right? And the pituitary then sends things to the adrenals,

sends information to your thyroid, produce more thyroid hormone. Okay, so many people like I was are downstream trying to figure out the adrenals in the thyroid

when the control tower's the biggest issue. Yes, so I had so much mercury in my pituitary. I remember, I still have the study. Then when I found the study that showed that mercury from a malgum fillings, 90% of it ends up

in the pituitary hypothalamus. I'm like, dang it. I knew something with wrong with the control. I mean, I knew because I'm down here. I'm like, what is some of the drawing of my pituitary?

I mean, I had a medical background. I was like, I knew something was going on there, but it was weird when I would try to address it, I would get like more anxiety. Right.

It was because all I was doing is stirring the bucket around.

“So you have to be careful about what type of detox”

as you do. But anyway, so when I got the mercury out of my brain, it didn't happen from a 30 day cleanse. Not so, it didn't happen from sitting in size. But then I got my life back.

I could sleep through that. The anxiety went away that anger, irritability, all that stuff went away, but it takes time. It took time to get in. It takes time to get out.

My program, I say the goal is to teach people a process so they can actually do the detox long enough to matter. Right. And that's the key.

My wife's probably back there saying, man, I bet he's got some things going on

'cause he's always so pissy during the day about me.

So she's probably, but you know, my aluminum, I had it checked at one of the biohacking conventions. I was at a had what quick, scanty done in my aluminum was off the chart. And I started to kind of panic, like, you know,

and I haven't gone back to get it looked at, but my mercury was also high. And I'm wondering, I've had like 20 root canals. So let's talk about that, you know? One of the things that I teach, you know,

I have a lot of criticism, and I take some crap for it about functional medicine these days,

“because a lot of it is running expensive tests, right?”

And giving people a lot of vitamins, right? And I have no problem with testing. And I have no problem with vitamins, but none of that is really focused on the real cause of why people were sick. They say that 84% to 85% of all disease

starts in the mouth when they mean, well, I just talked about filings, but root canals in what we call cavitation's oral infection in general, right? Which I call hidden infections, are a big reason why people can't fix their gut.

It's a big reason why people have immune challenges and even autoimmune and even develop cancer. So these hidden infections are, they get in there into these areas of your mouth and hide from your immune system because they're so little blood flow.

So root canals, years ago a guy named Boyd Haley at the University of Kentucky, he did a study where he had all the dentists in the, there's an organization of healthy dentists called the A-A-I-A-L-M-T.org.

It's a place to find healthy dentists, but anyway, they were sending him healthy root canals. Meaning, if someone had pained symptoms, don't send it, we only want root canals that no one had any problem with eating you took out.

So they were sending them healthy root canals, 100% of them had dangerous anaerobic pathogens bacteria in and around them. The reason why, when they take out the root, what's left behind is something called micro tubules.

Literally miles of these things, where the bacteria run and they hide in there.

And then you put basically,

they put a sealant in the tooth where the root was taken out, seal it, but those bacteria now are sealed in. And they create a lot of problems. Matter of fact, there was other studies showing on the side of root canals.

Thyroid cancer, breast cancer, ovarian cancer, different types of cancers on the side of the root canals. So root canals, cavitations, meaning where people had wisdom teeth removed. Okay.

80% healover, you have no pain. 20 some years later, you have immune challenges, you have different weird symptoms, and it could be the cavitation. Wow, when those things are decavitated,

people immediately say they feel like that they reconnected with their body.

“I had a guy, and became a friend of guys from Canada”

and he had 21 years of severe pain, part of which we had major liver pain. He had the means to do everything. And he did, he was that kind of guy. He would do it.

I don't understand on your head in the quarter for 10 minutes, I'll say, it's 20 better. He was that guy, and nothing worked.

So finally, we do something called a cone beam.

Yes, the cone beam, cone beam, again. And he sees these loosensies in the jaw. That's, you don't see infection. And by the way, you don't see these things on X-ray. This is more like a cat scan.

3D, they're able to look around and find these voids. And these voids are where the infections hide. So he had two of these big voids. And he went to Dr. Jerry Curitola in New York, Great Dennis, and he texted me on the way out.

And he said, maybe it's coincidence, but I feel pain for you, that liver pain is gone. You think it's gonna last? And I said, I don't know, we'll find out. I was probably 10 years ago now, maybe more.

And he hasn't had that sense.

He walked out of their pain free.

And I can't tell you how often that has. Some people say literally in the chair when they took the infection out, it felt like they were reconnected to their body. So anyway, I say all that to say

that it is some of these things that functional medicine doctors, if they truly want to help someone, we have to look in these areas where most people don't look.

“You have to ask people about their home.”

People are living in moldy homes, unknowing. They're getting exposed. They don't smell it, they don't see it, because they live there. Or they have someone come into a mold test

and they just test the air. Yeah. 90% of those are false negatives. And yet they're being affected by the mold in a home. So you have to dig in these areas with people's history,

looking at certain symptoms that could be neuro-toxic illness. But when you look at the explosion of thyroid conditions, toxins are at the forefront, diabetes. 80, you know, I think the last one I read is like 83% of diabetes is toxin-related,

which is toxin-induced insulin resistance. So it's called terti-i-i-i-r toxin-induced insulin resistance. And people say, I change my diet. I can't come off my medication. My blood sugar study.

That's mostly toxins. And the reason why toxins drive inflammation of the cell. Your hormone receptors are on that cell. And inflammation blocks them. And you can make hormone levels better

and you're blood by taking hormones. But if they can't connect to that receptor, just as useless as a cell phone without her tower, right, useless. How big of a, okay, so let's just take a percentage here. And I know this is a broad perspective.

But if we were just looking at correlation between toxins, causing health problems, do you think it's like 70 to 80% to people's problem? Like, what would your number be for people that have some sort of issue?

It's either coming from there, originating from there, has some sort of problem concern there? What do you think? I think it's 95% really that battle. I do.

Look, people talk about processed food. Yeah, I, I great, processed food is not good. But food in itself is the carrier of the problem. I see water is a carrier of the problem. Make-up, personal care products is now a carrier of the problem.

You know, Bobby, our HHS, you know, Secretary, I love Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I'll say, I see Bob because I know him personally. I don't know how anyone could hate this man.

“I think you should love this man on both sides of the aisle.”

Take all politics out. Yeah, remember he started on the left. Yeah, the right has taken him in, but it's like, let me tell you something, this man is the real deal.

And he's always fought for everything that I believe every one of us

are concerned about. And that was the health of our children. You would think that was, yeah, I don't know how you can hate this guy. I'm confused, but I also don't know politics so well. So I don't know what the problem is.

But I think anybody that's trying, when the whole perspective is to make America healthy and make people healthy. Yeah, they started hating him. I don't, you don't have to get political, but I will, in the sense, you know, there's a real thing called Trump

Yeah, I think it's a real disease.

There's no drug for it. I don't think there's a cure for it. No. I don't know if it's genetic or not, or it's real. But when poor Bobby lined up with Trump, then it's over.

He made it. Yeah. Now, get it. He should be hated by the big farmer. He should be hated by big ag.

He should be hated by big food. And I was a month ago at DC, and Bobby walks in. And he might have had three. Maybe there was one at the door, two other secret service with him.

I'm like, that's not enough. I'm in this building. And I was looking for the bathroom. And there was like a stair like you could get to this.

“All I kept thinking was, you know, how protected is he?”

Like, I felt like someone could have, you know, God, it was a 50 people in the room. Anyways, I fear for Bobby, I love him. I think he's just has a heart of gold. And he's doing, he's already done great things for our country.

He has not done yet. Just the changing of the vaccine schedule. Yeah. I mean, you know, why do people hit? Why do people want to label everyone, a Vaxor anti-vaxor?

He's for making this safer. He's for drug, you know, vaccines are the only drug that you can't sue a drug company. And ginger and injury. I had some mistakes.

I did the interview with Aaron Serif. Three hours.

Oh, we see amazing. He's winning every case.

You know, why he's winning every case? Because there's no science around where they say the science is. There's zero. I know zero. Dude, okay, he sent me his book. He approached me to do the interview.

And I said, I want to do it, but let me think about it. I got on a plane on the flight. I read half the book. And I called my wife when I landed. I said, I don't give a shit.

I have to do in this interview. I said, this is some of the most troubling stuff that I had ever seen or heard of my life. We sat down three hours and did a full flown interview. And then me and her stayed there till,

I don't know, it was like midnight. I was within like seven hours. I've been connected to this problem. Oh, it's insane. So this was nothing new that I didn't know.

Like, you know, but that was shocking. Oh, you wasn't it. Oh, blew me up.

“And that's why I say whether you're Vaxor Antivaxor,”

you read Aaron's book. It's called Vaccine Zaymat. Yeah. Find it on Amazon. I don't care which one you are.

If you care about children, you care about your own. You don't children for that matter, read that book. He is like, he deposed the vaccinologist of all Vaxor and all, yes. Okay, so this guy, I mean, he is the man.

I mean, he wrote the holy Bible, you know, of vaccines, every, let's say, medical doctors, they don't know anything about vaccines. So I say that, it defending them. Okay, because they don't have time, right?

The immunologists, they don't know anyone. So the only ones that he found that really know anything, I think they know anything, or the Vaxorologist. And the man is Stanley Plotten. Yeah.

Okay, he deposed him. He went in there thinking, man, I'm gonna be right. He must have something, right? And so, and he prepares all of this. And he's like, they've got nothing.

He's like, so, his family must have something, right? Not anything.

“Nine hour, you can watch it on high wire.”

Yeah. Nine hour deposition. And in his book, he breaks it down. But nothing, not only nothing. It's like, it's, it's so damaging to the whole thing.

It's, it will shock you, it will anger you. Oh. And you'll feel dupped. Trust me. I was seeing fire red when I,

and it was, I always tell people, look,

if you wanna take these, go load yourself up with them. I'll tell you, but the kids that have no choice, yeah. In this matter, and when I saw the list of everything, and then it was like five day, my days. Hepatitis B was one of the examples.

Five, five days of a clinical trial. Oh, it's not a double blind placebo trial. See, every drug requires double blind placebo trials to prove sex with accept vaccination. They do a five day in that case,

and rarely does it more than that, of just looking at what happens in five days. To get, okay, there's no placebo group. Look, there's been a couple vaccines, two, maybe three, where they actually had a placebo group.

You know what they used instead of saline? They used the old vaccine, or straight aluminum. One of the very things, when we talk about aluminum in the brain, one of the very things that drives most of the symptoms. So, literally, they were comparing the vaccine group

with the placebo group. I know, aluminum vets, shots. It's like, are you kidding? Because all you have to say then, the proof safety to get the licensure,

because that's all they're doing, they're doing that five days, so they can get licensure from the FDA and clearance. And all they have to do is prove that between the two groups, that the symptoms were relatively the same. Well, of course, they were.

But if they gave it to saline, they know this. There's no way the sickness would not outweigh the risk.

I know. I mean, it's, it's, it read the book, but anyway, I don't even know where I was going with that, but Bobby is making things safer.

How did we even get on Bobby in the first place?

Oh, man. That's why I love our conversation. It's going to take no while over there. Someone out there, how do we work talking about food

“and the process food and what a carry boom you dug out?”

There you go, good, very good. So, um, the fact is is that Bobby said, I can't believe I just took all that to say this one thing. Say this one thing. Bobby just said last week, he said,

this is one example. He said, the problem isn't gluten. It's a chemical called glyphosate. Yeah. I mean, all these, well, we were kids.

I'm 60 years old. There was nobody with a gluten. I was going to say, this is just, there are, I'm in a round on horse. And we still had gluten, eh?

It's like, you know, I grew up in an Italian, fell me and busted none of us were reacting. Now, today everyone's reacting. It's the gleeky got caused by, and glyphosate causes. You're got to be wide open, okay?

Yeah. And you're brain. It opens up these two protective barriers. So it's adding to brain toxicity, which is adding to all the anxiety, brain fog,

and all the stuff we're seeing. And it's opening up our gut. That's one chemical. Now we look at the amount of mercury, lead, aluminum. I can keep you got plastic.

All these other pesticides atrazine,

“which is a chemical that makes male frogs female, okay?”

It's like, we wonder why kids today are confused. It's like the guy, Tyrone Hayes, the scientist, the company who makes the pesticide, you know, hired, said you got a problem here.

They fired him and then just slathered his name in the industry because he showed that their stupid chemical actually was making male frogs female. I mean, you want your kid? It's still being used.

Our food is being sprayed. See, it's not the food atrazine. It's still being sprayed by glyphosate. It's still being poisoned with all kinds of different chemicals. I'm just naming two, it's like so, the fact is,

this is the first generation not to outlive their parents. Chronic disease, Bobbie made this point too. He says, if you look at what's happened in the last 60 years, why we see Chronic disease surging everything, from thyroid, autoimmune cancer

and kids, all these got autism rates from one in 30,000 to one in 21 in 10,000 today, one in 31. One in 31 kids being born as autism in some states, like California, you're talking about one in 12. Okay, so if that doesn't concern people,

in what's changed is the level of toxins, not the level of processed food,

“not the level of carbohydrates and on the level,”

you know, I mean, yes, we need the less carbohydrates or perhaps in less processed food for sure. Okay, but in bad fats, I mean, I make a stance on all of those problems. The toxins are the number one problem, Chronic disease.

That's the question you ask me, 20 minutes ago, that is the number one reason, one on I chronic disease, is surging that thyroid is the first to go. If you look at thyroid cases, what happened in the last 20 years?

It's the thyroid's canary in the coal mine. What does that mean? That means it's the most sensitive gland that we have, organ that takes in toxins in disrupts.

So I always say, if you have a thyroid condition,

you have a toxic condition. Yeah. And I would say the same about diabetes. Well, this shit just started happening. How long ago, I mean, these diseases, these problems,

this stuff just started coming around. And he's a little act like this was something, 100 years ago. - I think he years ago. - He got prognum.

- Oh, my kids will tell that. Every one of my friends has got problems. - Yeah. - Every one of my friends has some type of medical issue. There was nobody in my class

that I remember having a medical issue. I mean, I'm not one. And we were drinking pops out of the pot machine every day and everything else and didn't have one problem.

- Yeah, no. It's not something so the game has changed. - Absolutely. I mean, good point, right? I mean, people are drinking Pepsi and Coke, right?

- It's like, and not that it's good. No, the point is the level of toxins is what has changed. If you look at a food, people do this on the internet, not you know, I probably done it on my Instagram, but if you look at ingredients,

even in fast food, just did the McDonald's fries. I just saw that. - Yeah. - The list of ingredients is this long. - Yeah.

- Okay, back when I was a kid, it was this little if that. - You can do that with every product. - Yeah. - So you know what the difference of those ingredients is chemicals.

- Yeah. - That's what the difference is.

- So I always say, if you can't read it, don't eat it.

So, you know, we think of process food, but no, it should be called chemical food. - Yeah. - It's process chemical food as they answer. - Well, it tasted better back then than it is.

- It does now too. - You go to Italy, many people watching us have been to Italy. - No, you see in Italy, you don't see fat people in Italy.

How old should you do when they're Americans? You could spot the American?

- You could spot the Americans from,

and you said, don't hide it there. - I have, right? - It's like, in France is the same way. And they need a ton of fat, and they need a ton of carbohydrate.

- No, the law is everywhere. They even smoke, they even smoke. And Italy, they 20% more carbohydrates than we do. Why is their diabetes rate half? Okay, it's because the chemicals aren't there.

They've outlawed glyphosate. The one that I said opens up the God barriers. They're not spraying their food with atrazine. They're not, you know, the amount of chemicals are personal care products,

the lists are like, you know, basic ingredients, right? That's the difference. - The problem too is that people's minds are so closed in shut because they're brainwashed,

or they just, they say the big people make us sound crazy.

This shit is true. And it's like, this why I do what I do because most people let know, I'm not a doctor. I'm just a realist dude around, like with everything I've gone through

and everything I've done, like, listen, I don't have a side, I don't have a horse in this race. I'm not selling anything. All I'm doing is selling you a reality on what's really going on.

- Oh, I understand, so I've accented you did. You interviewed Aaron, you read his book,

“and then he said, "Holy shit, that's what you said."”

Everything he has, he says it. It's all cited, you can literally go look it up and find it, it's right out in front of our faces. You have to interview, you have to delve big tree. - Yes, I want to.

- He does high-wires.

- Yes, I know who Dell is.

So Dell, his movie is documentary. People can get, I think they can get it for freestyle. It's called Anne A and in convenience study. Anne in convenience study. I got a dot org, I think it's dot org, but find it, it's free, watch it.

So what Dell did is years ago, he challenged the top researcher of Henry Ford Health Institute. Okay, the reason why that's significant is because there were other studies

comparing the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. As a very clear study of saying great, which one's healthier, right? Because if vaccines work, we would see better immunity, health statistics, vaccine, absolutely.

And so the studies that were done, there may have been six or seven. It all favor the unvaccinated. - Okay, but the criticism was, that wasn't done by a legit, that study had this problem.

But that was it. So he challenged the man himself at the, he's the head of Henry Ford Health Institute and known for the research, right? This is what they do.

Big pro vaccination, even the gentleman who do this study. He said, you know I'm extremely pro-vaccinated.

“That's why we have the little, okay, he said yes.”

So the why don't you do this study because you have one of the largest groups to study of vaccine unvaccinated because of the way the insurance work. And he said, because this would put it the rest,

wouldn't you agree. So I think two years went by and he said, man, you know, you said you were gonna do the study where we, well, okay, you know, he got them to do the study, okay.

And so then another year or so goes by and he's like, you know, are you doing it? Yeah, we did it. Well, what are the results, right? Anyways, the results were the same as the other one.

The unvaccinated had six fold less autoimmune two and a half fold less autism. I mean, every chronic disease was elevated by big numbers in the vaccine group. He said, why won't you publish it?

He said, my career would be over. Well, would you let meet with me? So he agreed to meet with him. Delp, because he had to do this. And he talked about it in my interview.

And he came in with a camera and a hidden microphone because he had, I love it. And so here he is. And then the movie, you see this conversation go down.

“And by the way, he was the only way he had to do it”

because no one would believe it. Yeah. So the guy said, just that, I won't. I can't publish it, my career will be over. But his justification was, it partly right.

They wouldn't change anything anyway. So why should I lose my career? But Del asked him the smartest thing. He said, could anything have been done better different about the study, he said, no,

we flipped it every way. It was short because the outcomes of criticism, well, wasn't this, they didn't look at this. He said, no, and this is the best. He said, we flipped it every way you could.

The outcome was the same no matter what. The study's perfect to resolve these things more easily. So the fact was, is that there is yet another study showing that the vaccine group had all chronic disease conditions elevated compared to the unvaccinated group.

So that's a scary, scary reaction.

“And for troubling, and like Aaron was telling me,”

they're just products. That's all that these are. They're product. Yep. He says, and you know, there's no conspiracy here,

because I criticize people on our side of thinking that they're developing these because then they end up in the healthcare system selling a more direct, it's not like that. They're sitting in a boardroom with, you know,

people, you know, with on a board that they want to make money. That's it. And they're saying, wait a minute, and it's like, if we do a double blind study, you know, what's it gonna show?

'Cause they don't know, these board people, they're sitting there making business decisions. And all there know is like, well, wait a minute, you know, there's a chance it's gonna show that it doesn't cost safety.

Well, why, we don't have to do this.

So why would we do that? Of course we won't do that. That'll hurt profits. That could ruin everything that we're doing. I mean, every decision is a boardroom money decision, you know,

and I argue that many of them still, like even believe in the products,

“but many would argue that those top people aren't vaccinated”

their kids. Yeah, so, oh yeah, I believe it. And then, you know, it's, well, so-and-so is brilliant and they're saying this. Well, do you think they can't be buggy?

Are they not human? Do they not revolve around money as well? Not everybody's so ethical in everything that they do. So this is reality of life, yeah. I mean, but it comes across, it's easy to think that,

oh well, so-and-so, this big doctor. And so we gotta believe everything they say,

but that is just not reality.

Well, that's like Plotkin. I mean, look, the vaccine, I can't remember. It's like the court, the trial, whatever that is called, the gavel is named after him. It's called, it's called the Plotkin gavel.

I mean, this guy is like the God, it's like, whatever he says, it just doesn't, he just goes. That's it. It's like, so when he depot that deposition has to think it's great to watch.

Oh yeah, that's good. It is good. But that deposition he did, it really showed how the whole system is built, how they go by this man's word,

and his word is backed by nothing, but his own opinion. He even quotes himself, without, literally, without an actual study, it is so crazy. And I don't understand why it's like a cult-like following,

'cause I ask, I'll say this to my wife, are they married to the vaccine? 'Cause people get so angry to these, but what are you so mad about? - No, you have to understand.

- But regular people normal people?

“- Yeah, that's what, that's just puzzling.”

- That's what I'm talking about. - Well, see what happened in COVID. - Right, now we know, we're the apologies, because everyone knows that vaccine was a fail. It didn't protect, this is not my opinion or anyone's opinion.

It didn't protect no, not only that, it harmed, it's driving autoimmune, it's driving turbo cancers, it's the amount of cardiovascular disease, everything's stroke. I mean, you can keep going down the list,

tonight is, I mean, all these crazy things that have come out of that, and it was an absolute mistake. Where are these people now? It was screaming at someone like you,

me, that it was like, you're putting people at risk saying that, and this and that, you know, I mean, you're dangering because they convince people that if you weren't vaccinated, you were putting everyone else at risk.

Okay, even the vaccine, perfect, Aaron and I discussed that. Even the existing vaccines, that's not true. Your kids are not putting other kids at risk by being unvaccine, yet it's the straw man

that they still hold up in, you know, is why they say your kids should be vaccinated because they're a threat to my kids. COVID was the same thing. You're not vaccinated, you're putting all of us at risk

in the only way to actually, you know, slow of virus down is herd immunity. I mean, you have to get the virus. My goal from day one was, come on kids, let's get this virus, get it over with it.

And let's travel because this is gonna be the best time to do it. We did just that, as you really. We did just that, you know, and I look, you know, we're healthy, you know, that was a very, very bizarre,

it was a man-made disease virus. So our immune systems absolutely did not, you know, like it, right? So, you know, for some people, it was absolutely devastating for, right?

So I wouldn't recommend that for some, but for us that are healthy, we got it. It was like a regular flu for us. My wife didn't even get symptoms and she had it. Yeah.

But the point is, as herd immunity had to stop that. Yeah, wasn't the vaccine. It was herd immunity. I knew that. Unfortunately, I've had it.

I'm like eight times. Never a strain, yeah. Yeah, I seriously, I've been very susceptible to it, but I had three, but, you know, each time that

Yeah, you guys, you're building up. These are all, this virus is going nowhere.

I mean, it will be here, always.

Yeah. And, you know, so it's good you have these antibodies. And our, the next generation will be fully equipped. Yes, and I mean, there are things you can do to mitigate it. I mean, I, I've, I've remained in the last time and it helped to

ultra, yeah, it really did. I never took it, but the one time, because I just didn't have it around me or anything, and I got some and took it. And, and two days later, I felt really, yeah, no, it, it helped. And anything, because I said it was a weird virus, we have watched, again,

thyroid canary in the coal mine cases go up like crazy. It put a lot of people, we call cellular danger response.

“So post COVID as it's known, long haulers as it's known, right?”

A lot of different names for it, but AKA, I just haven't felt the same since COVID. Okay, you know, that many people vaccinated or unvaccinated, this can

happen to, or in what they call spike protein persistence.

Yeah, where their body is still precinct spike proteins. I was blessed to be in a group out of Europe where they have an actual test of measure spike protein that's approved in Europe, not here yet. And you could see the different, they can see the difference. Two different spike proteins in the vaccinated group, one spike protein, unvaccinated.

However, even in the unvaccinated, you would see some of them have spike protein persistence, where their body's still precinct. Wow. They call a cellular danger response that creates something called dysautonomia, which simply means you feel like crap.

And you still feel like crap. Your journals are fried, your thyroid's affected. And a lot of people post COVID ended up with that. So we have solutions. My program now literally had to adopt these post COVID solutions, because so many people

are not well because of it, we had to adopt these solutions. Wow. That's crazy. I argue men at the time was because I wasn't as very well versed on vaccines like now.

And I had been in the supplement industry for so long. And I had had so many struggles with either helping people get something approved or people's kickback on me was, well, you don't have 30 years of data on this. So I'm not taking it or I don't trust in how can you prove it. They were won 15 and 30 years of data to take a supplement, just a basic supplement.

And you know to get an FDA approval because they're not getting anything out of it. It's just rigorous and damn near impossible.

“That's why a lot of supplements on FDA, right?”

And this thing was approved like like that overnight. Yeah. And listen, you know, I've interviewed Pierre McCullough, right? He knew right away like, okay, this is not going to go well. Yeah.

They slathered him, tacked him, right? Social media. I see him. Yeah. And then a Robert Malone, Robert Malone, he was, he was part of this technology.

And he's saying, oh, oh, wait. Hold on. You know, this isn't, as soon as he did, knock him down to the side. Because the drug companies, they saw the cash cow. This is a trillion dollar industry.

Again, imagine having a drug that you don't have to prove safety, for like with double blind, plus you, but Charles, like every other drug and you don't get sued. Okay. That's just a dream. And that's the way it's been since 1986, I know, I know.

“And when I learned that, that's what soon as I got to that chapter of the book, I set”

it down. And I sent the text message and I said, I'm doing this interview. And I said, you're not going to believe when I get home when I tell you all about this shit. It's insane.

You know, when people, of course, you know, Bobby's talking about changing the vaccine schedule to that of like, some of the other European countries, you know, the Danish country, you know, they have some of the best health statistics in children. Oh, well, what's different, there are vaccines scheduled. Yeah.

They, they literally, I think we have 17 vaccines in year one, and I think they have nine or something. I mean, you know, literally half the amount of vaccines in year one, it may be less than that. Remember, the exact numbers, Aaron has it as book, but fact is, is look at the difference

in health. Yeah. So, by taking a, why are we giving hepatitis B vaccines to a woman who does has no, you know, history? That's useless.

I've hepatitis B, that's the stupidest thing. And we're giving it, you know, literally day one, when the immune system is not even developed yet. But how many people just do it without asking or wondering, which concerns me, you know,

I always tell people, don't, don't listen to me.

Please. Yeah. Do your own homework. Yeah, Aaron's book. Listen, when you're doing an attorney, this is different because an attorney goes to

trial. They have to, they, they went on fact. That's it. You know, it's like that, that they have to back everything they say, so you're getting

This information is real.

It's beating everyone. They have nothing when I tell you they have nothing. That's just not science. Yeah. Yeah.

Aaron got into this thinking that there was something here. Right. He got into it thinking, like, you know, he's, he was like, you know, nothing. Yeah. He was no different than you.

And when he started getting into this sniffing, he's like, I smell a rat. Yeah. You know, it's like, send me everything you have on it. They sent him some crap. He's like, is this what you wanted me to look at, like, this is your science.

And he realized they have nothing. The information when it's put out, you can see and you can tell.

“And that's why I like you so much, because I know when you go and you got balls of steel”

by the way, because like when you walked in there, I, I couldn't take the one you did

on the chicken at the, at the store when you were calling out the plastic in the chicken right in front of the workers. I was, I had to watch that literally four or five times. But my point is, Aaron, well, but you do that because you care because you, you don't actually, you don't, you're not making money.

You're not selling anything. You heat plastic. It's going right into the food you killed me with the, I said the balls on him. I love it. Yeah.

I mean, it's like, to me, it's like, gosh, like, it's stupid. And I'm watching. I do the video. And I'm like, like, this guy's listening to me. He comes right and he just grabs you, the chicken and the plastic on the thing and just

like walks away. I'm like, well, that's, you know, so I'm just, you're my impact. Exactly. Zero. Yeah.

It's like, I mean, I, I, I'm telling you, if I watch someone do that video, I'll be like,

Well, that makes sense. I'll buy in that. Oh, my God. I picked it right up. Once I, once I, I filmed that out.

Once I got done laughing, I was like, man, this, but this, the point here is so good. And that's, I wanted to talk to you about that aspect of what you do because those are super entertaining, but they're super helpful because you, you don't say everything everybody wants to hear. I can tell you like, when you talked about tattoos, and I was like, shit, you know.

But, it's so eye-opening and it's so helpful for you to go and do that and take the time to walk around and go to these places and call these things out and point things out. And I know some people don't, they, they call it fear-mongeringer because you're saying stuff that they don't want to hear because it's true. Yeah.

And it's, we need to know it. Well, you know, I, I, I, I, I obviously apply what I, my team will bring me things. And I'll go, yeah, but see, I don't do that yet. Yeah. I just, what have got there was one just recently.

I'm like, yeah, I don't do that yet because I can't do it. Yeah. But, but meaning like, I have to be bought in. Yeah.

“You know, if I'm bought in, if I think it's a major, I bring it.”

You know, it's like, some things maybe aren't majors, but I still do, right? But, you know, because I bought in, right? But most of what I teach is like, I, you know, I don't wear polyester underwear. I see more, you know, saying it, I, I wear pure cotton, right? So I bought in, you know, that the genitals are not good to be exposed to them.

Well, what do they? To talk about that real quick. You know, polyester? Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, they're dads.

They're called those. Yeah. And they were actually, I just did that. Oh, what, what? Why?

Um, because, yeah, it's, it has effect on the testicles and testosterone. Really? Yeah. Because you're, you have petrochemicals. And a lot of other chemicals that are carried in by those fabrics.

And when you sweat in those areas. So I, I don't, I don't mind a shirt or a pair of pants necessarily.

“Like, I think there is a difference of these tissues.”

Yeah. And I speak this for men and women versus other tissues, just based on the studies that I've read. So it's the areas, the tissues more sensitive and absorbs differently. And also the amount of heat infriction that's involved in those areas.

So, um, there's things like I, I, I traveled my own toilet paper. I love it. The toilet paper, they, they, that nice white, they get the, the way they bleach it. It creates dioxins. And it just so happens those tissues, vaginal tissue, anal tissue, um, not like tissue paper

tissues. Meaning the cells. Yeah. Um, they're, they're very absorbent of those chemicals. And I'll lead to higher levels of prostate cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer.

So those tissues are very sensitive. So I think everybody should invest in clean regular toilet paper. Also, the formaldehyde levels, the reason they use formaldehyde because it makes it stronger. Right. And so, formaldehyde is used again, another big cancer cause or.

So, uh, yeah, I, I think female should be very cautious about what female, um, products that they use. What's the word for those products, cleanly products, I'm, I'm missing female, anyway, hygiene. Yeah.

Um, that they should use and not use. I think you should invest in organic. I think women should use pads, um, that are organic pads.

and again, I have to buy in that said, you know, when I first started, the, uh, back

up, I didn't want to start it all. My son said dad, you need to do this. He did something. I said, that's a stupidest thing, and here's why it's stupid. I said, because you can't teach anyone anything in a minute and a half.

Okay. No, wrong. It was odd. Yeah. So, but that was my stance, and I said, I'm not wasting my time.

Because I hate social media, right? So, so because of my distaste for social media, um, I didn't want to do it. He did something very clever. He hired my younger son, Simon, to get paid on the videos. So, of course, my love and concern for my younger son, um, I was like, okay, alright, he

has a job. My son hired him into our business, so I started doing it to help him. Even though I knew this was a waste of everybody's time, I'm going to do this for Simon. That's where my social media started two and a half years ago.

Wow. The film is two million now, um, just on Instagram, but, you know, my other platforms are growing. But, um, and let me tell you, I fell in love with it when people started coming up to me saying, let me tell you, you're one video, and let me tell you how that and they have

a story. My Bible tell you. It happens all.

I'll never forget the chicken video.

I will never say, yeah. But let me tell you something. I was the same way. All I ever wanted to do was the eight to twelve minute videos that most people don't even listen to.

You have a fraction of it. I kept doing it and I kept doing it and I didn't listen, I didn't listen, and then you start posting those shorts and they got 20, 30, 40,000 views when your other ones are getting a couple thousand because people don't listen. Yeah.

But you could be super impactful in a short amount of time if you know how to do it. It's it. You have to know how to do it.

“Grab their attention and then you have to bring them the information.”

And when there's a solution of solution. Yes. And I get pissed people off because I don't often have a solution. Or I don't, there's this fine line of selling product. Yeah.

So if you make a mention of a product, you have to say, there's all these weird rules. So I thank God, I don't have to do social media to make one dollar. So I don't attempt to make a dollar. I don't do it for the money because I have other things that generate money. Sure.

So and I think just getting the word out there has helped other things. But I don't, if I have an ideal, like my mattress, I've even done a video on this yet. But it's the best damn mattress in the world, took me nine months to, you know, research at all, right? It's like, but I have to say, he gave me a discount on the mattress and this is the mattress

I like. So you know, it's something most often you'll hear me say, the product, find it on, you know, Google it. Or if you know, I did on Amazon or something. Right.

That's most often what I do. But when it's a hard product that someone can't find, I'll promote the product. Sure. Right. And I'll say the name and I have no problem doing that.

People want me to do that.

But I'm, I'm never, I'm not doing it to sell a product.

Yeah. Somebody's got to promote the shit. Yeah. I mean, somebody's doing it. I promote, I'm very careful about who I work with.

I work with very few companies, although I use, you know, just like you and anybody else we probably use a ton of things.

“But you know, I try to go for the most impactful, I think is going to be the most beneficial”

long term. And I think if we can get people to think long term, I was just having this discussion on the way here. Everybody wants shit right now, right now, right now, and they never think this about anything.

This was the battle I had with the bodybuilders forever, which I couldn't take, which drove me into the mental institute because no, you think, it's about tomorrow. Bodybuilders, no offense, guys. But there's, you know, there's, there's a lot. Did it?

And that's it. And we'll not have to know some matters. Yeah. It drove me insane, because I, I just, and maybe it's because the value I have on time from losing it, but I think about everything long term.

And I think that if we can teach people that, like you're talking about these toxins that build over time, if you started dressing it early, you can prevent so many problems later on in life. And I, I try to stress that to people that are young, don't understand or just think, all that shit doesn't matter, you talked about the glyphosate, even organics stuff.

That stuff sprays over and can get into the organics side of things. It's a fact. I mean, I think everyone needs to do the organic today. Yeah, I do. But to your point, you, as much as I try, and I practice what I preach, okay, I am still

being exposed. Yeah, I can't get away from it.

“I mean, that, that's why I still do my own detox, right?”

I'm, I'm, is it something I will do for life because you cannot avoid the exposures. Organic food is still picking up high levels of aluminum, even from the sky, let alone

Right. Yeah.

“So, you know, you have to do the best thing, you, you can, that's why you have to focus”

on the majors. If you're drinking city water, what are you doing? Right. It's like, get an RO unit, you can get them for $3,400 at Costco, okay? I'm not saying they're the best units, I, I'm just saying.

It's like doing it. You can do it. Okay. Every family should have one. No family should be drinking tap water.

No. You know, if you can't afford all organic, although I think no one can't afford not to get all organic, eat from the clean 15 and avoid the dirty dozen. Yeah. See, there's steps that you need to take that are huge.

Your person, what are you washing or closing? Because this is, again, what I say, folks, see on the majors, what you're washing or closing, these detergents name the brand, the regular, you know, detergents of people wash clothes and are loaded with fragrances that they do not have to disclose to you. The cancer and hormone disrupting ingredients that are in it, you know why they're protected

by IP laws. So everything that has fragrance, your shampoo, your skin lotion, what you wash or closing, the reason these are bad is because they're absorbed. All these hormone disrupting chemicals or absorbed right into your skin, into your bloodstream. It's called transdermal and it is on you for eight hours a day, whatever you ever close

on. And then you're sleeping in your sheets for eight hours at night. And that means, so we just went eight, eight, six, ten. Yeah. So that means for eight hours a day, you're walking on naked.

My point is, is you probably have clothes on even longer than that. But the point is is that you are absorbing these chemicals through your sheets and your clothing, all the time, I'm telling you, so a big one is get good, non-fragrant, like e-cover. Okay, your e-cover.

Is that what it's called? I'm seventh generation, make sure because if it's not the fragrance, it has to be either non-fragrant.

It's usually says free and clear or it has to be from essential oils, do not buy it.

The fragrances carry the biggest amount of toxins. That said, there's other toxins in there. When I walk my neighborhood, walk your neighborhood and you smell that smell from certain houses, that's because they're using fabric software. Fabric software should be outlawed.

It's that toxic, really. And it's, and again, your exposure is great because you wear your clothes so many hours, you're in your beds so many hours and you're absorbing these chemicals. So change that, change your water, change your personal care products, and you'll change your life.

I mean, if you just do that. So sent free, like soap or body wash to, sent free detergent, all sent free, everything.

“And God forbid, don't plug you, use plugins when I walked in here, remember?”

I said, I smell some of the candles or another one, you know, no candles, no fruit. What about hairspray? No good. No fragrance. I'm getting eight, they have, hell, here's the difference.

Today, in the last 10 years, these five years, they have, they have a non-toxic version of everything, find it, find it, until you, your personal care products, your water, and yes, your food, the chemicals are causing disease. We went full circle now, right? And I just now, I'm giving people the exposures, yeah, if you have still have silver fillings,

that's a big one, okay. That silver fillings, putting mercury into your brain, 24/7, and in your gut.

You'll never fix your gut or your brain if you have silver fillings, living in a moody home.

If you have these hidden infections, that's where we started. Those are the big ones, the big, the big neurotoxic exposures. Now we're talking about living well. Little ones accumulate into something, maybe. I'm absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I'm drinking out of plastic. Come on, we have learned how dangerous these microplastics and nanoplasics

are, hormone disruption, you know what's in Vogue right now, everyone's taking hormones. Yeah. How's that work and how? It's not, it works out, I talked to a gal today, she said, you know, when I first started taking them, it seemed like it was really helping, but now it's not why.

What's the question? Why? The reason is is because that's not the problem. Right. You don't lack the hormone, right?

It's like in even if you did, what's in the control tab, I was going to say, what's causing the lack of hormone. So if you are. Yeah.

And that's the thing is everybody wants to take the actual hormone, but they never want

to look and see what's causing the depletion or the lack in the first.

“And remember, I said, toxins accumulate on ourselves.”

Every hormone, look, hormones do not make you feel better in your blood. They make you feel better in yourself. They have to connect to the antenna on yourself, get in the cell or their message, and then you feel better. Now you burn fat efficiently, everything you make energy if it, your brain works.

No brain fog. Good. All that happens when your hormones get in your cell. But if your cells are in flame, number one cause toxins, they accumulate in and around the cells, driving cellular inflammation, and they block that process.

When I was at our friend Warren's house and I went over there and he started showing

bed. And I was like, holy shit. I need to really look into this more and focus on it more, understanding, knowing that we have grandkids now that I can pass this information on tube. If I mean, I want to prevent things early for everybody, though.

If all we did is go back to the way we lived life in the 70s and 80s, oh, I would. We would solve everything. I mean, so my point is it hasn't been that long. No. We're talking 50 years here, it's like, you know, we just need to go back to that.

It's like, and you know, and we can do that if we eat organic. We can do that if we buy the healthy product. You know, it's like, you get, I had this conversation with an old gentleman, right? Or, yeah, I'm not either organic.

I never ate organic growing out, but I said, yes, she did.

You just didn't know it. You just didn't know it. Yeah. Cause they weren't spraying the glyphin. It was a 90s thing, bro, you know, it's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, that's what it's

started. So yeah, you were eating organic. Well, it's like, and we didn't have to pay for it.

“Well, and then what they feed, that's why I do everything grass fed, because I think”

people don't realize what that means and what they're feeding the animals. They're how bad it rains. It's literally so forable, you know, you can tell I hate glyphosate, and so does Bobby fortunately, because he's going to change some laws from the top down. But so now, Moncanto, the company that produces it, right?

So I'm going to need a bodyguard leaving this place, right?

But they were very clever, because they created something called desiccation.

So it's not bad enough that they're spraying all the crops with this herbicide pesticide glyphosate, but they came up with something even more clever. When they spray a grain, it creates a shriveling. Yeah. They showed that it actually makes a horrible, it can double almost your harvest.

So profits through the roof and you spray soak your grain with this chemical right before harvest. It decicates it, shrivels it, and then your harvest is like a breeze and it would expense to our health. Exactly.

But the farmers believe, because they're told, like vaccinations, right? They're told that it's fine. It's safe. Not on a bus, I was staying at the Montage in Dear Valley, and I was taking the bus into town, and it was the Mont Santo bus, I mean, they were there for a meeting.

This, that guy in the front, he was so pro, glyphosate, and here's the message though,

he believed it. He was pro, they were laughing, saying how safe their product is. And I sat there like a coward, because it was the whole pot, I was the only one on there. I mean, I did, I didn't say a word, I just said do. I don't know.

I don't know. I look back there, though.

“I think the new me, I think I've been like, oh, boy, and I tell you something, because”

I'm old or not, okay, you know what, I went through a process of like, what good is it going to be? Right? It's like, so, yeah, I'll do that. And then I also realized they believed their product, you know what I'm saying?

It wasn't like they were who had, no, you're like people think Mont Santo is trying to kill. But now there's people at the top. Dude, I've been there. Do you know these snares, right? But I really believed at this level, they believed it.

They thought people may, you know, called their product cancer product. But by the way, you know, Bobby led the, the showing glyphosate causes non-hodge, this little foam line, you know, cancer. So it is now millions and millions of dollars that have been awarded to showing that this chemical causes cancer.

You still walk in home depot and see round up the active ingredient of this glyphosate. Okay, so, and then guess what's spring spread our food? So we know millions are being awarded in the courts that it causes cancer. And we know all these things are true, and it's still being used. What?

Well, in other countries, about a lot, why not here, because Mont Santo has a foothold. But man, when they're paying you, and then they're educating you and showing you how they re-gergeitated information and make it so convincing, I've been there, like when I started getting into supplements and stuff, I got duped, because I was new when I was anxious, and that's what they do.

They pray on people that aren't younger or more anxious and energetic. And so I know firsthand, because I've been through it, but then it's like going to medical school.

“What do they teach you and talk about prescribed, prescribed, put everybody on this?”

They don't get taught everything they need to know, and they go in there with the right motive and heart. Absolutely. They're not doing something wrong or doubt. And look, they're not in time in a place for a drug, you know, I mean, I'm not, but again,

we take more drugs than any country in the world, they take more vaccines than any country in the world. Guess what? We have more chronic disease than any civilized country in the world, okay? And we rank last in informed mortality.

That's insane. How's that working? Okay?

And so, you know, I think we need to do something different. I agree.

“But that's what, you know, and it's the train when I was in prison, no matter what you”

had, the answer was I'd be profan. Right? I mean, it didn't matter what you had. I don't care. But that's kind of how their program, even there, you know, it's like, well, just

give them this. We'll same with doctors. If your cholesterol is there, out of their range, stats, diet and time. Oh, yeah.

That's a $50 billion industry.

Exactly. Yeah. So, statins, our model problem, the joint problems, liver problems, brain, all the ones forever. Oh, wait, hold on.

Another study just came out. Did you see it? Okay. Showing that the higher cholesterol, especially over 50, the longer people live. I know.

Higher, more, better, more. Yeah. It's like, wait a minute. They had, we lied to. They had mine down in the thirties and I panicked.

Thirties? Yeah, LDL. Yeah, my LDL. Yeah. I don't even know.

No, no, no. And I panicked because I said, this is insane. I don't want this because I had found some plaque in my arteries, which is probably due to low fat diet and everything else. Oh, yeah.

Cellopholes.

And I've been able to reverse just like you're told you can't.

But I immediately said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not right. I'm not doing this. And I took that statin for about three weeks until I learned enough in that three-week time period to get right off of it.

I just saw you yesterday. I was Amelia. Is it really good restaurant here in Scuff? Yeah. Amelia is right.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. My daughter and I were there and I saw cardiologist Jack Wolfson. And so I said to my daughter, I said, hey, get the gear. You'll see the Instagram, wait for it.

I said, watch this. I said, just follow me with a camera. So I said, start at the table. So I said, hey, so I'm speaking to the camera. I said, there's the famous cardiologist Jack Wolfson over there.

I said, I'm going to ask him how cholesterol causes heart disease and how, you know, it. So we go walk over.

“I'm like, hey, aren't you the famous Jack Wolfson of cardiologists on Instagram?”

He says, yeah. You know, I wasn't. All right, so he's like, are you the famous doctor of all of this? He flipped it on me, right? Anyways, I'm like, you know, just cholesterol caused heart attacks and how bad is it

for? He's like, cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. Cholesterol is the best thing of them.

The most important fat in the body.

So I'm like, oh, yeah. That's so important. But he said, he's an anomaly, right? Yeah. You know, doctors are raised that cholesterol will kill you me while it is the most important

fat in the human body. It's the most important for the brains of most important for the cell memory and so. Yeah, when I learned all of that and started eating different like we talked about everything change. But that's on.

Hold another two hour topic. Yeah. Yeah. So in this episode, we already pissed a lot of people out. It's great.

And you know, politic politics will do that. Of course. Yeah. Vaccines will do that. Sure.

Because people off about how to talk about the new food food pyramid. If they went out, the South Park already had to figure it out, right? So they always do. Yeah.

“That little clip, I did an Instagram with it, right?”

So the South Park thing, you know, they're so funny. They are. It's like, you know, so we figured it out, sir. Yeah. So how are we going to stop this spread of disease?

On a, he's like, we flipped the pyramid. That's it. But we flipped it. And it's like, and you see, you see, you see all the things like all the stats coming down.

That's it. Oh, my god, they flipped the pyramid. But it's hilarious. But how the frick didn't get flipped. I mean, the fact that all Bobby did in the administration and Oz did.

They all they did is flipped the pyramid. That's all they did. It was been a joke for years. But here we are. We literally flipped the pyramid.

And now it's right. Yeah. But too many people know now. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Exposed. It's something. This just took to slack. Yeah. But, you know, it's like, yeah, not that the God forbid the Biden administration

would get back in. I will call that the common administration. They'd probably flip it back. Yeah. Because too late now, because everybody knew I was running out.

Yeah. Well, man, I do, I swear I love this. Well, we're going to do more of these anytime you're in town or I'm in town. We got to do more of these fucking awesome. Yeah.

All we do is chat. I love it. Tell people before we go. Yeah. Where they can come learn from you.

Do your program, you know, if you go to pumpaprogram.com, yeah, there's some free classes there. Webinar things, very stuff. I teach doctors. Yeah.

But it's meant for people looking for an answer. You can watch that. My Instagrams is DRPOMPA. Yeah. So simple.

I'll link everything in the descriptions. Man, I wish we had more time. I love this so much. I value the shit out of this time. I really do.

So I thank you for coming and seeing me here and I know you were in town quick. Didn't have a lot of time. So I appreciate you. Tell me. And watch our podcast.

The Dr. Pompapodcast. Yeah. It's right.

I want to promote the heck out of that.

Trust me. Because that was so fun. All right, brother. Thank you so much. Hit me in.

Everybody.

“I know you're going to enjoy that when I don't have to say I hope.”

I know you will.

One way or another, it's going to get some reaction.

“So that being said, stay tuned for plenty more to come.”

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