Bombshell New Evidence in the O.J. Simpson Case Feat. Chris Todd

While I welcome back to the show everybody so you know for the last 10 years every single week

“we've been putting out episodes that either change or improve your life and that's why we've”

become one of the top shows in the world and I'm very grateful for that and I hope we continue to do that for the next 10 years but this year every once in a while I want to do something it's a little bit off the beaten path for our show which is to have a topic on the show that just fascinates me personally and in my lifetime one of the two or three most compelling

stories the things that just stand out as moments in time that I'll never forgive is the O. J. Simpson

trial and some information came across my desk about six months ago from someone he that has a theory as to exactly what happened in the murders of Nicole Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman that I thought was interesting enough that I wanted to share with you and so today we're going to have a conversation with him we haven't recorded it yet we're about to go into it and I just want to be clear I'm not a detective I'm not a law enforcement I'm not an attorney

and I don't claim to know what happened exactly in the loss of life for these two precious souls

“but he believes he does and so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask the questions that I think”

you would want me to ask and I think it's going to be one of the most interesting fascinating episodes of all time on the show and then you can decide what you think happened and so can I at the end of the conversation and so I'll work on your behalf to get as much information as I can to keep it as entertaining as possible I hope you enjoy this here we go I guys so I've already sort of introduced the episode tonight so let me just introduce the person I'm going to talk to Chris Todd Chris is a

veteran PI been a private investigator a long time but he's just one of the great truth seekers in the world today whether that be what happened with Kurt Cobain or Biggie Smalls or what we're going to talk about today mainly which is O.J. Simpson in the O.J. Simpson trail and I

going to tell you Chris first welcome to the show brother good to have you here thank you man I'm

honored to be here with you ad thank you I should tell you first in the audience why I have such an interest in this obviously it's one of the you know most compelling stories of my lifetime but I have to tell you I haven't told you this until I wanted to record this trial and what happened to particularly Nicole matters to me because I was fresh out of college and my business partner and my first business was dating Nicole sister at the time the murder happened

really and so I spent time around the family during the trial wow it was an insight into what the family was thinking initially as well and so this is not just something that I watched on TV it's something that I was at least in a peripheral way around the trial and a little bit around the family and so I'm really interested into here what you discovered or what your theories are before you tell us what they are on a scale of one to a hundred how sure are you that what you're

about to share with us is accurate is it a 90 is it a 52 how sure are you I would say it's a 90 and the reason I leave that little 10 percent is because you know I've dealt with a lot of

“accomplices and criminals let's say and you have to be careful what you believe from what they say”

so I always leave I'll leave you like 10 percent that and we're gonna get into something interesting

today that I'm gonna talk about that there's actually another person involved with them that took me a long time to really kind of vet so it's a fascinating story my journey is is beyond comprehension and you know all glory to God in a way of how I was brought into this and we can get into that stuff you know as we go I might know who your friend is that probably I won't say his name but I think I might know who that is off camera I'll share that with you but not relative to

the story but I want to protect those folks as well start out by asking you most of us that watch that trial let's say the majority of people that watch the trial eventually reach the conclusion that they believe that OJ killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson most of them hope that I talk to though wonder whether he could have done this alone and of course there's a percentage of people that still believe that maybe he didn't do it or they don't know just of all lay out for us

what you believe you have a book you wrote called Ron's revenge what you believe took place just a general overview of what happened to these two precious souls who did it they do it with someone else they do it alone etc absolutely and and my original book was called if we did it this was the beginning of this saga after I kind of met one of the key players let's say I came forward against that person today I won't say their full name I can say the actual name that OJ used

supposedly had confessed critically to Judah 3 into Fox that interview was shelved for 12 years

“it was borrowed from the public okay the overview is because there's so much I mean just”

there's I mean this is seven years of I saw things that I cannot even explain so basically OJ didn't

do it alone okay and I know for a fact there's one person with them there's possibly two people with them okay that's really that 10% okay I know 150% that OJ did not do this alone and a lot of people like you said a lot of people knew that too and there was a lot of evidence there was other shoe prints and blood there there were other fingerprints there was blood DNA in the Bronco Anne of the murder scene that did not match OJ runner Nicole and I learned and look I'm not going

to talk badly about the LAPD because they've actually been pretty cool listening over the years they could have ignored me a lot right but they've listened and whether they do something that's up to them I don't control that but OJ did it he had help and it solves all the mysteries of like

where the clothes went in the shoes and the knife why they never find that stuff how did he get back

to his house so fast how did he get rid of everything and nobody saw the Bronco and where was the Bronco at the house like he got dropped off he jumped a fence there was all this stuff and like most of the public I was a fan I was in college I was 20 years old when I happened and so I did live it too and when I first met these guys there's a couple people involved with the these projects so to speak I couldn't believe it and it took me about a year to truly believe it

after vetting it using other sources using my investigative techniques and I mean I didn't sleep for a few nights after I was made aware of what was going on imagine so let me go through what I understand and you'll just correct me because I'll be wrong about this is 30 years ago or whatever it was but my understanding is is that there was some sort of a recital there's something

“at school that day Nicole ends up having dinner with family and I think it's Metsaluna I think”

that's something to give you the place. Ron was a server there and I think maybe OJ came there and there was a disagreement or a left that part you can clear up but how do you get from Metsaluna to OJ pulling up let me just help speed this up too OJ lives down the street there's a front entrance in the Coles house there's a back entrance in the Coles house my understanding is you believe that he drove down what would be considered like the back alley that night fix what I just said

that's wrong my understanding also is that Nicole supposedly left some glasses at the restaurant called the restaurant Ron agrees to deliver them to the house that night and what one how did he get there and be why did he do this like what compels this guy he was obviously violent with her in the past but this night did he intend to kill her did he intend to scare her what makes him get in his car knowing he's flying to Chicago I think later that night and drive over there

and do this what's what's spurred this change in his behavior or acceleration of his behavior.

Yeah and you remind me at the end I'm going to start with the first part of what you said

“and then I should be able to remember that second part part um they go to there is a recital”

Nicole does go to dinner at Mepsilon with her family and the kids oj doesn't go whether oj was invited or not there's a lot of different theories he's either recital and that's where there was a fight really up he was filmed there a guy from Portland Oregon filmed oj kissing one of his children and that was a big piece of the story in case so he was there Nicole and oj were not speaking to each other at this time on June 12, 1994 they hated each other

like cats and dogs man I can't explain it there's a couple things about the IRS letter they I mean they were it was bad it was really bad and there were a lot of warning signs over the years okay and these friends sure to step in this this murder is not premeditated it's not okay oj is waiting for a limousine to come take him to the airport to go to Chicago within minutes minutes I'm not talking hours I'm talking within minutes okay basically what happens is I'm going to say two

do there's two I'm going to say this because I can say this legally charlie quote unquote and another gentleman that I may say the name as we go because he died he's dead okay

if I remove I know charlie's there if I remove the second guy right and I just focus on one guy

doing them extortion right you owe us money they owe us money for drugs you guys have been you know

“you have to understand the mafia mentality it's a setup it's an extortion to get money out of him”

because oj has nowhere to go who's he gonna go to the cops he can't go anywhere so oj had a drug problem a lot of people knew that and he was entangled in the wrong crowd period so it was Nicole so it was very rustic to some degree Keith Z may have been he's rid of people from mezzaluna he's rid of good friends in the coal there was a lot of stuff going on in LA in 94 okay basically oj freaks out and says no I'm not doing I'm not giving you a dime and there there the tables have turned

and oj says we're going in the coal and he has them going to bronco with him tune the coal's house at about about 10 20 p.m. he leaves rocking him because the limbo lands at like 10 25 he misses him

the limbo never sees a bronco okay I you're just what compels us guy no one is getting on an

airplane to drive over there so you're saying what compel them is one or two of these shadowy figures kind of mob dudes and you didn't even investigate it this everybody this isn't something that he's just looked you know it's actually something that oj said as well so he's guys well there's a confrontation back drop on that just really quickly is he said oj had a drug problem did oj also help do you believe in his past maybe distribute or sell any of these drugs to people and that's

why he was entangled with these two guys absolutely he was facilitating deals with these two

man absolutely hundred percent and I can prove that and also AC was too and that can be proven also

it's some of it's on the public domain it's talking little drugs when he's got a herds a rental card deal

“he's making some movies he's on I think he's doing football on NBC at the time was he hurting for money”

how's he hurting for money plus he's got an NFL pension why's he dealing drugs this is this is the segue into the seven deadly sins this is the segue into temptation I believe through my cases a lot of them and I talk about this my spirituality and God and Jesus with these cases and how they help me in a way is oj was possessed by anger jealousy rage he's angry's embarrassed he's mad and when we hit that point of no return there is no turning back he couldn't turn back he told his

bail bonds and then they yes years later I should have just got on my plane he knew in the retro spec I what was I doing why he could have told these guys hey chill out I'll take care of it why does he need to why does he need to race to Nicole's before he's going to get in a limo to go on an airplane because of his anger it's like I don't want to do that a lot but there's just in case people aren't familiar there was a this was a very volatile relationship there was violence in a relationship

they broken up and got back together several times there are you know pretty valid stories that maybe that Nicole had dated we'll call it dated a few of oj's friends he had had some frustration about that but I don't understand two guys show up kind of a shake down you know what's funny why Nicole's house why is that where he's going so they named Nicole when they're talking to him they're saying her name and they're also saying Keith Z's name now Keith Z was the one that triggered

a lot of this anger the 911 call in october of 93 the stalking incidents that's Keith so when they say Nicole's name they resonate Keith this is setting him off they're pushing his buttons okay and and it's it's dark man he obviously a guy that was that good looking that charismatic that famous you're obviously right we can't see how he would do it but God can and the devil can they that

“that's what happens all the time almost every day people do things they should not do so”

you know it's it's a sad story it became a total mess after that there's a lot of different theories and evidence that pointed to this and you know I do want to touch about to cover up and the

first time I heard you with your theory you thought there was one guy let's just leave room that

“there could be a second guy with him in your theory everybody I I have no idea what happened obviously”

I've not done any investigating so they they end up in his car you say it's not pre-meditated but then at the same time I've been told he's wearing gloves and a mask so if it's not pre-meditated why does love is it a mask not a mask not something Mark Furman said there was no mask it was just a cap it was a beanie cap like he wear when he golf he said the gloves were driving gloves okay there are isotoneers he wasn't in like this costume like people try to say that look

let me I'm going to give you the quick sound bite oh do you want to scare her okay he had stalked her before in all black clothing probably had the cap on maybe had the gloves maybe he had thought about this before doing this before he talks about this when he watches them through the window he felt he could be killed okay he could have come in he was like trying

“to get in the house it was all locked okay so he had done this before the Colby's in the trial”

had talked about seeing a man black man outside at Greta Green so a lot of people know that so he's wants to scare her and in his book in chapter six he tells you I'm going to go read her the riot act he wants to scare her now whether he tries to say I have a knife I took it up from under the seat look at this blade and he tells Charlie look at this blade and Charlie says in the chapter of the book what are you doing dude put that away

we're you're going to go talk to her go talk to her right so there's confusion about how many knives they really are do these other guys have knives and guns most likely I mean dealers carry weapons period especially in the the the white the snow game okay they are ready to die at any moments okay and they'll tell you that in that game so they're there to scare him when they show up and go

through the back gate the problem is there's Ron Goldman at the front here's a white guy good

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people for free where it talks about Ron Goldman was in love with Nicole I have it in the witness statements from one of Ron's friends okay you look a long lady that comes in the restaurant

happened correct me if I'm wrong because I certainly could be that the wounds on both of them

“and please tell me if I'm wrong about this because this is a significant to your point”

that there there's evidence that it is two different knives that were used in the assault if that's why in the world did that not come out at trial or did it it did and what happened was in the very beginning they put on doctor when golden who is the corner the original corner he was the deputy corner he had a boss doctor Lakshmanin but but he did the autopsy doctor when golden he says in the preliminary hearing there's two morphologically different types of stab wounds on the victims

Shapiro gets with them he starts grilling what could two knives have been used yes and that's all recorded now what happens the next day Marsha Clark kicks him off the case literally and that's a problem they actually went to other corners across the country

“for somebody else why because it's a cover up they don't want to hear that there's two knives”

and it's so this is this thing was rooted right in the beginning with cover up right away and there's different reasoning for that some of it they just wanted OJ some guys were afraid to the mob guys look one of the guys is an animal not Charlie the other one if he was still alive today it would not be talking to you they're not so let's softly what you believe is there was we're going to go into this moment with Ron Goldman in a minute but you do believe that OJ did this

with an accomplice having said that you also believe there was on the prosecution side and they're law enforcement side you also believe there was tampering of evidence and a cover up he's nodding his head but just for audio you're saying yes to that yes there was planting of evidence there's proof of that EDTA in different segments of the blood on different pieces of evidence and the glove may have been planted by Mark Furman behind the house okay so now we'll go now we're going to go

back this moment so OJ's coming up the walkway from the alley behind Ron's at the front door talking in a cold delivering the glass moms glasses do you you probably don't know this but you believe OJ walked up there alone initially or is these other one or two men with him as he walks up OJ tries to say in his book in his confession in chapter six that Charlie followed this guy in

what he's trying to say is that like he goes in first to stalk and look through the windows and I

I see candles and I hear music I believe the Charlie and the other gentleman are with OJ at this time I don't believe they're like coming from the front and waiting I think they all come through together through the back and just to be clear there was not in the house it's in like a foyer like a

“walkway walkway like a courtyard area near the house correct so that's what you meant by”

in they're not inside the house they're outside okay and then in your theory what takes place now in this horrific incident when when they come down there's stairs they have to go up and down these stairs along walkway they're as they come down they see Ron Goldman at the front talking to Nicole they see it now it's very dark there's very little lighting there it's a very small space I talk about this for angry people in a very dark space and a small space

Ron's there they're unsuspecting the cold's got the menu like she's going to order food she's better foot obviously she just came out of the house he buzzed to come out he's got the glasses in a white envelope this was a big piece of the evidence okay he's doing that they're talking

here come the bulls in the China shop what do you got what's up what they're startled that first like

whoa what's OJ what are you doing here Nicole hates him so imagine she sees him I don't know if she sees him hold him a knife maybe he's dressed with the gloves in the hat because they find it there and there's two other guys are one guy with him what's going on you're not supposed to be here at all and then there's Ron there and it's just awkward and a fight begins an argument and a gentleman hears this Robert Heitstra he hears it parts of it

across the street in an alley and the prosecution tried to not use them like you'll see all this cover up from the prosecution oh yeah oh yeah that's all there and basically a fight breaks out I do believe Nicole swung on OJ and from that moment there's no turning back the other knife being used I do believe there are two knives I do through the autopsy

just so everyone should just know this the level of blood that was there and maybe talk for a

“second just so everyone knows how my understanding is this Ron Goldman young man fought pretty”

valiantly if there's two or three dudes there absolutely he did I'm understanding also as Nicole was nearly decapitated the wounds were so severe on her maybe maybe that's not true if you clarify that well they exaggerate the decapitation thing a little bit her spine was nicked okay it didn't go through the spine okay a lot of people try to say this it's let's just say it's a nasty slice of the throat okay it's not a decapitation the Ron is attacked and and yes he stabbed over 20

times okay 25 somewhere in there he is fighting as bruising on both his knuckles all both hands there's bruising abrasions he's obviously punching now when you look at OJ Simpson did OJ have any marks on his face no so is he punching OJ or is he punching somebody else why's there blood from somebody else after crime scene again more signs that there's someone else involved okay and yes the blood is everywhere you know Nicole's feet are there her bare feet have

“no blood on them there's a little spatter I think on maybe a part of her foot but she's not standing”

in her blood okay so she's down she's always down on the ground okay Ron is not really standing

in hers either so I do believe Ron was killed first she's either knocked out days one guys hold in her down right it could be hitner but the the the final cut is at the end when she just popped up on the stairs because we have evidence of that there's a wall of blood coming down a certain step that's where she has to be she's up on the stairs and then her legs are underneath the gate the gates only like six inches high you could not get her legs under there if she's

standing up she has to be laying down so he yanks her hair back on the stairwell the how definitive isn't that there's a third party to blood there absolutely there's there's

“other blood at the crime scene and in the bronco hundred percent just the inch of time I'd rather”

just sit in the space for a minute and it's sort of a sacred place for these two beautiful people lost their lives but we are doing a show here so we're gonna continue to progress through

the scene I've always you know just for me personally wondered this really young stud athletic

Goldman guy how one dude would be able to kill both of these very athletic people not with a gun but with a knife you would just think someone could have freed or something you know so it is a compelling idea that there were multiple people there now we know from trial that on the way out there's these footprints as I understand it from these unique shoes that OJ Simpson wears you can discuss that but also are there other footprints leaving the scene that are not OJs

yes there are there's a ten ten and a half size parallel line print that doctor Henry Lee and Barry sheck talk about they do a whole testimony on a circle it they call it the PLP which means parallel line print it's not OJs OJ is a Z shape and he's a 12 they're different shoes they're not close in size they're not close in print period there's about four of the accomplices shoes whether those are Charlie's or the other gentleman

I pretty much know who it is but let's just leave it open those are walking to the back also so you have OJ's shoes the Bruno Mali size 12 Z shape, clear prints I mean multiple

clear prints they never found shoes that problem they never found these clothes the shoes they found

the hat and the two gloves one glove at rock him one glove at Bundy you see what I mean they didn't find the evidence so they didn't find the knife or knives right so there it yes there are shoe prints walking out of to the alley to two sets okay let's stay on the camp find the evidence I've heard two theories on that the first theory is that it comes back in his duffle bag and Kardashian walks away from it when they're at the house when OJ comes back the other theory I've

heard is it somebody saw him putting it in a trash can at LAX when he got out of the limo that night if you know which of those two or neither do you believe to be why they never found everything

okay even I think Kim Kardashian said she went through it I don't know if that's true by

think I heard that that's his clothes he probably Kardashian should never have been allowed to take

that here's another bumbling by the LAPD okay this man just came back he's a murder suspect here someone's grabbing his luggage like it's insane it's borderline insane um so now skip Junus says I saw OJ sticking something in the garbage can what I believe that is is the towel

“that OJ used to wipe himself off at the house and possibly his boxer shorts okay that's what”

he's stuffing in the thing but look they said they searched all the trash cans at LAX you can up they said enough so I don't know what he's doing I do believe skip Junus I don't think he's making it up and the OJ didn't want them Alan Park and Kato to touch this bag that stuff could be in there absolutely because look think of it this way what's he gonna do with the towel after he goes in these bloody in his house he can't leave that towel there he leaves the socks there

whether those are planted from the hamper we don't know they don't see blood on those socks at first they

don't think there's any blood it comes weeks later they go oh we found we found Nicole's blood and then there's a whole drama about that about the LAPD leaked the story with a woman in Tracy Savage because she was sleeping with him like again it's this all this and the stuff didn't even get tested yet it's crazy and then you're theory I suppose potentially this these other mother man or other two men they could have left with the evidence of the

clothes OJ does not take these clothes back to his property as for the glove there's a couple theories did Mark Furman plant the glove did he take it from the crime scene did he put it in the bronco first and then when Cato says I heard then he goes and oh I'll be right back and then he takes the glove out of the bronco and he puts it behind the house we don't know are there other people jump in the fence when OJ's coming back they're all scrambling back to the property

because they're cars there I don't know these are there's a couple of things I don't have the answers too but I think it makes the story somewhat more credible let me let me parse a couple things here so now OJ gets back by the way why don't you at this point you said he's passed away do you want to give us the name of who you think the second guy is I can say his name because it's out there Joey of polito we have little he's are these are rough dudes what you're saying

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treat cure or prevent any disease so joe yepelito and this other guy an oj or or just the two of them get back in oj's bronco and they've got to get back to oj's house well this murder is happening the limo driver has already arrived at oj's house just so everybody can also because i'm from

“that area you should just let everybody know how close it is back to oj's house and take it's through”

that how quick's the drive and then what do you believe takes place next oj does drive the vehicle

sand to scente lights off this is a very famous store where she sees him gets the license plate

this is about ten fifty p.m. it's the crop proper time it all lines up they race back lights off which is insane i just did this drive yesterday he drives about two three minutes to rocking him and he's up there and he parks on a side street he's cannot pull up to the house he cannot. oj's dropped off whichever way comes in does he come through the front gate does he jump the fence does he go through the two ten sports in his book he says he comes through the ten sports around the back

“of the house that's what he says we don't know okay the blood droplets kind of lead from the”

gate to the house he could have come through the front gate dropped him off there the bronco is not

parked at all okay it is being held i'm in another street with the evidence in it oj comes back

quickly comes in the house Alan parks so they saw six foot black man dressed on all black clothing i think it's his skin i don't think he's dressed he stripped down he's not seeing him in any clothes okay maybe black boxes and black you're made writer everybody the limo driver Alan park very key witness as was kato kaelan because they're together when oj re enters the house literally he sees kato at the same time he sees oj in the driveway he won't say oj though

he keeps saying a six foot black man so that's something he has to address the rest of his life okay and oj rush is in then he's still buzzing at the gate and he finds the answers and said oh I overslept that's all be right down shall we i don't even know if he showers

“he says he took a shower to me i think he just cleans up i don't think he showers”

they do find blood in the sink drain but not in the pipe supposedly whatever in the bathroom sink drain they find a blood i think he doesn't have time to shower so he's racing the dry himself off put on the band aid to his cut left middle finger right and now he's coming down like nothing happened after mode he's a little out of breath they talk about that little sweaty like look like he's a little frazzled and then he starts loading the limousine

the limousine pulls away and that's when the bronco comes back in this part when they're gone so these guys were in the bronco just because he said blood i just want to ask you two blood questions because it's evidence whose blood was founded as sink and whose blood was eventually found in the bronco oj's blood is found in the sink okay what about the bronco the bronco all of their blood now watch Ron Nicole oj and the other accomplice there's four different blood samples the

steering wheel steering column is oj tells you this and is Ross Becker interview he says there was blood on the steering wheel that didn't come back to me Ron and Nicole i i i offer whose blood was that because he's trying to tell you he knows through all the evidence and this was after he was

acquitted so he could speak you know what i mean he he could tell you now that was first

dinner it's a fascinating interview people should watch the Ross Becker interview and there's a BET one he does one in England he does a few over the years and he tells you and then he tells you and if i did it he had help you just didn't want to believe him and the media was somewhat forced to block the story why is the media forced to block the story in in 2006 because the goldman's when oj does the book in the interview the goldman's get so mad they write

rooper murdock and fox and rooper fires due to thregan and shelves the interview the book is

“kind of shell but it kind of comes out but that interview has never seen for 12 years remember that okay”

so i guess we should go to now he's in chicago they call him back it is important because not everybody knows these details you referenced it earlier he has a pretty significant wound on him and what story for where this wound came from because he had to come with this explanation for that and he's i mean he's still bleeding if you look at the photo when he comes back 12 hours later it's over 12 hours after the murders he is still bleeding it's raised

it on his left middle finger now there's two theories mark firm and thought the dog of bidham that's viable right the dog's barking the dog witnesses the murders the dog's name was kato named after kato kailin the doctor says these are glass shards okay hazenga who is the

in chicago so that's where he says it comes from what i believe helping is he is hit with a knife on his finger whether it's himself or it's the other a sail when they're swinging his hand

“is either on ron's neck or grab in his hair and he gets pops that's what i believe that is”

and just as an as an interest in protecting everybody involved here you said earlier that you're you're 90% sure these two guys are involved but you're a hundred percent sure at least one of them as involved with them and i know this is obvious but i just want to take this for like a because this is your story it's not mine you're a hundred percent sure about oj's involvement a hundred and per cent so he gets back we'll go to the house just really quick again and put a bow on this

roj he gets back to the house the theory is kato says he hears a thump on the guest house that

he's in right yeah that's weird to me but i've always thought that was odd the signal

because the way kato says it in the very beginning he makes a noise like oh somebody hit the wall and it was like then when he's in the trial he goes he makes it very deliberate as if someone's signaling that him now whether he's thinking straight i don't know he messes up a couple times in the trial like well the lights were off oh no they were on he's like he's trying to help oj like he doesn't know what to say so he's getting he's trying to give different answers i believe

i think oj came behind the house and signals for kato to come out i could be wrong he's not crashing in any air conditioner oj knows the property like the back of his hand is that crashing in anything i think he's saying to come out and distract the limousine driver i could prove it kato's will not talk to me he will not address it at all so i'm sticking with that for now that that's a signal it could be airb bump or signal okay so just a couple

of things have always bothered me about this whole story this is compelling what you're saying

and if this evidence you've described is accurate it's mind blowing that the world doesn't know this it's mind blowing that they got through an entire the most public trial in the history of our country and that many of these things the first time most human beings are hearing this is right now that's mind blowing to me number one number two there was little parts of everything that just always thought i thought i thought oj did it right but i was around that so i saw it but

“this idea of the glove not fitting you know if it doesn't fit you must equip that part”

to me never bugged to me what bugged to me was how the heck does one glove end up at oj's house that just seems weird to me it bizarre like can you address your I have two thoughts on it one how's he bring one club over there right there's a part of he's like there's no way that's true but then there's another part of the things in the heat of the moment ferments not going to take a glove and plant it because he's not 100% sure oj did it so why would you then go hide or move

evidence that early not even knowing you got the right guy not knowing what happened you could lose your entire career by putting that glove there maybe unnecessarily so both of those sort of just I don't I can't I can't get my mind around it there's two theories i'm going to give you both and I'm going to leave a little cliff hanger for these other guys to do their theory because there's some other people working on this right now that are bringing up some good points about how that

glove got back there the first theory is the Steven singular theory which was legacy of deception

“he was instrumental he was a reporter from Colorado how the source said you need to look at the glove”

the blood the bag and the stick and he wrote a book called legacy of deception he told the prosecution softly they wanted nothing to do with them he went to the defense he says Mark Furman takes the glove from the crime scene and puts it in the bronco he knows oj is involved he knows he is he knows it's Nicole he knows where he is he lies he says all I didn't know is Nicole told like six in the morning that he knew exactly who was

they they saw the pictures of oj in the house they knew who it was Mark Furman as a history of planting evidence okay period provable end of story did crazy things he made the Mark Furman tapes he talked about this then he tried to back fell and said oh it's all for a movie okay sure

this is the theme of everybody they're all got like two they're always flip flopping okay so

interviews Kate or Kate or because I heard something and was there in her is quick I heard someone back from my wall Mark Furman leaves him for 15 minutes and nobody knows where Mark Furman is even van the outer and laying and I think Ron Phillips is there they're not they don't know

“where Furman is they're still with our Nell in Kato Furman disappears for 15 minutes that's why”

Flee Bailey and the other lawyers they try to say every minute what's he doing say Steven singular series he goes through the bronco he has a stick that he pulled from a fence he picks up the glove whether he has it an evidence bag or he just walks it in the back and drops it

there and he puts it there now that's the first theory okay the second theory is a new

set of people are working on the they believe and I'll say too much they believe that glove falls out of something not by O.J. doing that that's someone else dropped it that's up to them I need to leave that open I can't talk too much about it I just don't know the the glove being there is one of the more bizarre parts of the entire trail to me nuts it makes me crazy yeah it me too and yet same time I'm thinking Furman's taking a pretty huge risk doing that that night not

“knowing all of the elements you have to listen to the Furman tapes he planted evidence on”

other men before Marsher Clark knew he was a cop they knew they warned her don't use them you remember what Steven singular saying and I knew Steven he passed away what he's trying to say as Mark wants to be in the center of the case so what better way for him to find the glove he got himself right into it why is a couple things by the way this is just fascinating and thank you for the information I don't have and the sad thing is the funny thing is see you don't know about

just because the media is blocking the story that's why you don't know even though I've been screaming from the mountop for five years and they're stuck at all the major outlets and they

refuse to tell the story why though so everything I always look at is like okay why would Furman put

the glove over there like realistically why did they not pay attention to the blood evidence at the scene why would the media now 30 years later why would they block this or are they just not believe it do they just they just it was they don't believe it we could give him partial partially that out right we could say hey they don't believe Chris Todd they don't believe this Charlie guy problemist did you talk to Charlie did you do any investigation because if you did you see it

see I'm not calling them lazy what I'm saying and and I used other people to do it not just me because I had to prove they're not just mad at me they blocked everybody else too all of them

“they blocked them all I believe what they're doing is it's a paradigm they don't want to change it”

right it's kind of like JFK you got the museum is they don't want to change Lee Harvey Oswald

so if you say oh I know who the shooter was on the grass you know they don't want to hear it they don't they don't want to hear it so and this goes to the truth and I talk about Copernicus and the stories of you know when people speak a truth I'm not going to see Jesus that's way out of my league but when they speak a truth that nobody wants and inconvenient truth they they shun it they get rid of it so it's not a weird it's not that weird you know what I mean

it can mean your truth is you're leading me where I want to go I don't want to go into the trial because you know I've done enough reading on the trial about you know I even after jury selection I don't think OJ was going to be convicted I don't think I think the legal team was tremendous Chris Darden seems like a nice guy Marcha you have your theories about them I don't even want to cover that I it it look like the deck was stacked and obviously I think even at retrospect Marsha or Darden

were probably tell you they'd do some things differently for sure I've actually actually seen Chris Darden say that I want to go after the trial so there's obviously most people don't know this but there's a civil trial afterwards because most people like OJ was innocent you got to offer wasn't innocent but he was found right he was acquitted right well yeah but then there was a civil trial why don't you just refresh everybody's memory what happened there because this is valid and then

on top of that Chris why would he then do these interviews and write a book if I did it what was his motivation for doing it was it just money why didn't do it so talk about the civil and also if you're going to even afterwards do all this which is bizarre the civil trial he is found guilty the preponderance of evidence 51% whatever you want to say he does long

deposition he's wearing his different sweaters you can see by the different days by his clothing

“he's there forever he's talking you can't you can't pinch them one of his lawyers told them not”

to talk and and he said no I'm gunna and I know the lawyer personally is a good guy he told them don't fail word let's just go do it but OJ tried to talk himself out of it and he lost so that was a 33 million dollar judgment for the Browns and the Goldman's together

that he was found responsible for their murders he never paid a dime what he did was they

liquidated some of his stuff and I'm going to call out one of his friends right now um they got about 300 grand from things in his house you know what OJ's friends decided to do they decided to take the real jerseys and switch him with fake jerseys and rub dirt on him and pretend they were the jerseys and grab footballs and scuff him up in the driveway and then pretend those were

“the real ones and then that guy stole all the stuff yeah yeah yeah they're disturbing everybody”

around OJ is a scumbag anyone that ever interacted him with him after the murders was a scumbag period and the story I can prove it 20 different ways from Sunday so it's disturbing like

he never pays because I won't work I won't work okay now now let's move on he does interviews right

away Ross Becker paying they probably paid him a million dollars I don't know how much they paid him he did BET he flew out to England he did Judy Finn again he did that one he does others Ruby Watt he does Chris Myers with the SPN he wants to talk to you wants to talk Nicole he's always joke about it there he goes again large head talking again he was a talker and if in look I will never be on a level of OJ's popularity I brought up myself

from nothing I've had some notoriety it's addictive it is when I'm not sometimes I'm like oh man I gotta get back to those levels I was a few years ago you want to go back and I knew OJ would come forward eventually and he did 12 years later in 2006 he decided to tell his story and he did he just didn't say Charlie's last name he told you there's an accomplice you didn't listen you didn't want to believe him and then nobody investigated this it was easily investigated

easily so if I did it the book that OJ wrote I believe is what it's called and then we hope for you believe that that is an actual confessional not some parody or novel that is that is a cryptic confession and all he does is say this is purely hypothetical and when he does that if you really look at his face you could tell he's lying it's not hypothetical now whether the Charlie guy represents both of the guys or the Charlie guy represents it's a fake name for the other

gentlemen like their blame in each other and they don't want to say his real name Charlie's a term like Charlie don't serve you know Charlie company it's it's a term okay so it's not like that has to be a person right people thought it was OJ's alter ego that's what they really thought

“it was that's what Darden says I think Charlie's OJ and look he's not wrong it's not a bad thought”

but my question and challenge is to all of you is why didn't you look at it if he said it in 06 and he wrote it in a book why didn't you investigate every single Charlie he knew why didn't you look at every piece of evidence again why not the fire OJ says too this was the greatest murder case

in history why didn't they really look at it I find it curious you don't never be another OJ again

he was a genius and I hate to say it like that what he did on this afterwards is complete brilliance okay not in a good way but a lot of brilliant people are sometimes evil and again everybody just for my audience you know this is Chris's evidence I don't I haven't been able to validate whether there was multiple blood at the scene and the footprints and all that but I've seen enough of this and just in all candor monitors wonder why did it I've had I protect them too but

there's a significant person in OJ's legal team that I had some very late night extended wine with okay cool the many of the things that Chris is saying I had heard elsewhere that's just what I'll leave out and so that doesn't mean it's accurate I'm not pulling the two things together I'm just telling you that I wouldn't have had Christana if it was the first time

but some of them aren't and I'll just kind of leave it at that let me ask you a question I've

“always been fascinated with with what it would be like to be OJ Simpson now the rest of my”

life after I know I've likely killed these two human beings and I'm wondering if you have any insider information how did he live out the rest of his life and we know he went to jail and all that again but did he carry guilt did he ever share with people privately how he felt like what's the profile on this guy as he's aging and facing mortality do you have any insight into anything about him at that point? Yeah absolutely I know people that knew him personally over the years I

knew a couple different PI's that new on family members I've spoken a lot of people from this case you know if you look at OJ right after the acquittal he used to talk to people outside his house at Rockingham eat in a donut he didn't care this is a narcissist he's he's he's he's happy

he's not in child sport anymore he's not paying alamony if he says he never had alamony whatever

he doesn't have that headache yeah is he go to bed at night sad that the mother of this children has gone probably I'm sure he's human right but he kept living normal now supposedly he had a reality show he did a graphic video with a woman that he ripped the cameras out of the room this is a funny story that they offered him a million dollars to do a adult movie he showed up classic OJ and said yeah I'm gonna do it and he ripped the cameras out of the room and they had

“the audio on the way and so he I think OJ became a criminal after this right he started to hang out”

all these hustler types the Vegas robbery happens he's with a bunch of creepy guys they're bringing guns to rock what what balls and jerseys and a picture in the call why do you need a gun you don't they they robbed Alfred Beardsley and Bruce from long who you could push over with your two fingers okay like there's there's no need I think he was lost I think he was cursed by what he did right and I've seen mediums talk about Nicole punishing him and sending the the the

Christie Prodie was the Nicole look alike she looked exactly like Nicole look at OJ's girlfriend's creepy I mean very similar and she was they both were in the drugs and she's off the rails and he you know he also had hit money he was given deals he had an internet show he was going to do he's one of the first people to do an internet show if you look it up on them and want so he was living his life hiding monkey not giving it to the Goldman's in the Browns people would put his

house in a different name nothing was in his name somebody gave him a Bentley like there's all this

“stuff so he I think did the best he could to make as much money as he could he had a pension”

20 grand a year with a month so but I think he was always haunted any told people over the

years I should have just got on my plane he tells Jeff Felix and Jail to drug dealers came to my house the night of the murders too Jeff writes it in the book I met Jeff and he also tells it in the Adoprimine interview go listen to it people so OJ was telling us no one can keep that secret come on no one can and even even people close to OJ they couldn't keep the secret either they called me a midnight threatening me saying a bunch of stuff and then I catch them blind

about the evidence and they'd hang up and you know I basically look I beat these people I beat the dream team and I'm not saying it in an arrogant way it's just the truth I beat all these people I beat them I met Barry check I met Bob Blazier Shapiro said a nice thing about me once Christardon sent me nasty text I beat all of you it doesn't matter now did I get lucky was I in the right place at the right time sure a little bit was so was Gary Webb so was Woodward and Burnstein okay so

that's just my piece and I'm you know I'm glad you let me kind of say it this way well I'm glad I I again I just wanted audience you make up your own mind I just asked the questions today at the ones that I would hope that many of you would ask the other thing I want to say too

about Chris is this is not like you know is first rodeo and so there's he's done work on the

Kirk Cobain situation that you guys can go get you want to tell him about that and and also biggie smalls as well that's a fascinating case like you're you pick the biggies after the soj thing so tell him a little bit about the work you're doing yeah yeah and I um I'm doing John Benay rims you right now and the people can watch my interview on the cinemas TV

that is a fake news story about the killer I do believe those killers are still alive I'm big

“smalls and I do believe I can prove it that's been censored again most of my stuff gets kind of censored”

it's not a pity party I'm just telling you facts period um I I helped a guy who witnessed Kirk Cobain get murdered his name is Joseph Burns he had the courage to come forward and to tell his story of what he saw that night and that's called to Kirk I'm sorry and I encourage people to reward him for his his courage courage and his bravery and uh Kirk Cobain did not commit suicide

that story also the media has repeatedly blocked me for the last two and a few years and that's

okay like I said I'm not I'm going to get them out I will beat them they're not going to stop me okay and the book is selling okay but there's no real press about it yet so um I encourage your readers to check out if you'd like that now remember Kirk Cobain his death was two months before OJ's case so these are both in 1994 and Kirk was brushed under the wrong because OJ happened in June Kirk's was in April so it's it's fascinating yeah and Biggie's was in 97 so it's kind yeah

it could be a few to hold by the way but uh I gotta tell you I promise everybody I you make up

“your own mind I just wanted to have the interesting story around today I think you to agree with me”

that there's enough in here that was worthy of at least a conversation and it certainly is uh it fills in some gaps if you um believe what Chris is saying and if you don't I ask you the questions and you've come to your conclusion but either way Chris um I'm taking a lot of arrows over the work you do and very grateful that you take the time to share your work with us your beliefs and um I at least want to leave it open where you can send people where to find you because this is

everything about Chris is sort of like hidden because he's a PI but we're work and they go and find with anything you wanted to find about you or your work yeah sure yeah and I really appreciate it God bless you and everything you do and um I at most of my books are on a website called silvercoastproz.com PROS like professionals silvercoastproz.com and then I invite people to write me my one of my emails is cop scotch free one zero one at gmail just hop scotch free all one word and then the numbers

one zero one at gmail and there's other ways my phone numbers online my door is always open

anyone can contact me I always respond to people and um I'm grateful for the people that have helped me I usually have one or two civilian types on every case I have and I want to give a shout out to those people a little bit for helping me over the years so um yeah God bless your show and I give a lot of glory to what I've done and the gifts I've been given to God in Jesus and I want to thank you for that opportunity I bless you brother hey everybody told you be interesting

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of the last 50 years and uh this should some new light at least for some people all right everybody God bless you this is the end of my little show