The Girlfriends S5/E3: The Sting

In 2023, Bachelor Star Clayton Eckard was accused of fathering twins,

“but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.”

"You doctored this particular test twice in silence, correct?" "I doctored the test once." "It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing." "Regular lesbian, I could imagine it."

"My mind was blown. "I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped." "Lore up.

"As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences."

"Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts." "What's up, everyone? "I'm EcoBoat and my next guest. "It's Will Ferrell."

"My dad gave me the best advice ever." "He goes, "Just give it a shot." "But if you ever reach a point where you're...

“"you're banging your head against the wall,”

"and it doesn't feel funny anymore, it's okay to quit." "If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. "It would not be on a calendar." "You know, the cat just hang in there." "It would not be."

"Right, it wouldn't be that." "There's a lot in life." "Listen to things, dad, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, "or wherever you get your podcasts." "On the scene I showed podcasts, each episode advice you into a raw, unfiltered

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featuring powerful conversations with the guest like Tiffany Attich,

Johnny Knoxville, and more. "I'm an alcoholic." "I'm an alcoholic." "Just prove I'm a guy."

“"Listen to the scene I was show on the iHeart Radio app,”

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts." On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Paul show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand. "Better version of PlayStation, but games when stupid prizes."

"Yes." "Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time." "I actually thought it was." "I got that wrong." "But hey, no one's perfect."

"We're pretty close, though." "Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts." "Nervous." "Nervous."

"Hey, girlfriends, Anna here. Just a quick heads off on what to expect in this episode of The Girl Friends." "We'll be exploring themes of coercive control, and there'll be a reference to non-consensual drug use."

"But it's also a story as always of true friendship,

and there's going to be some cool as hell nurses." "If any of the themes feel difficult, you'll find links to mental health and support organisations in the episode description." "Last time on The Girl Friends." "Trust me, babe."

"Are you Derek Aldrich and he goes?" "Yes." "Lisa is walking through baggage plane, when two cops on segways arrest the man she thought was named steel." "And I look at him like, "What the hell?"

"One cap goes, "You're good to go, but we're taking him." "I'm like, what the hell's going on?" "Lisa and Derek, formerly known as steel, have just returned from what should have been a romantic holiday in Hawaii." "Now, they're starting face-to-face with two airport cops."

"Time for Mr. Steel fans to start explaining himself." "Steel goes, "Oh, it's probably my brother." "He impersonates me a lot." "It gets me in a lot of trouble." "So there's probably some warrant out or something for him."

"Now, steel had told Lisa, he had a good for nothing to in brother." "But that doesn't explain why he just answered to the name Derek." "He henceed me his suitcase. He's like, "Here, just take this." "You know, everything's okay, babe. Don't worry. I'll see you soon." After a week of increasingly irritating assurances,

the power of Derek's passenger don't worry, babe, has really begun to wane. Especially now, as he's carted away by an airport cop. And the other cop does your feed it off. Lisa's left standing alone in a state of shock. She doesn't know what to do with herself.

When suddenly, rays of light beamed down, acquire of chair of sing, a phone vibrates in her pocket. Stephanie texts me, her guardian angel from the past week was stopped at nothing to get her go home. She was, did you learn, I said, "Yes, she says good."

It strikes Lisa in that moment. All holiday, her friends have been pooling and texting.

the license plate of her Jeep rental.

“Even her boss's very chill attitude over Lisa missing her morning shift seemed a little unusual.”

Suddenly, looking down at that text from staff, it all makes sense. Staff knows something. She says, "Let me know when you get home, I need to talk to you." And they said, "Oh hell no, I'm not waiting. What the hell is going on?" Lisa calls staff as soon as she can.

"Okay, I'm on the shutt of bus. What is going on?" And so she then says, "Well, I'll tell you." Sitting on the bus with her luggage and steals carry on briefcase, Lisa learns the truth.

"One, there is no steel ordridge."

"No, that is not his name." The guy Lisa thought was her boyfriend. Is actually Derek Aldrette.

“Two, she's not the only woman he's screwed over.”

Staff tells her he also dated a colleague's friend. He had swanled her out of money. She dated him before you. Three, the reason he was arrested in baggage claim has absolutely nothing to do with a bastardly twin brother. There is actually no twin brother, by the way. He wasn't supposed to leave the stick because he's a felon.

And four, oh that's just a casual one.

Turns out almost ten months before their first date.

Steel had been the target of a multi-agency undercover sting operation. "I want to get this joke because he was just a parasite." But that sting operation didn't quite go to plan. "Trap."

“"I'm Anna Sinfield, and from the teams at Novel and I Heart Podcasts,”

you're listening to the girlfriends. Trust me babe." It's the fall of 2014, about a year before Lisa witnessed that dramatic airport arrest. Paul Meskin is sitting in the office of the US Marshall services fugitive task force in Minneapolis. His job is to catch people on the run from the law. "Murder's rapist, John Cases, bad people.

I really need to get off the street." He's printing out a few documents when an assistant grabs his attention. "They can take this call from this lady who has concerns about an information on a guy that's wanted." "Okay, I know problem." "It's a concerned mum."

"She was almost in tears." "I don't do so, John, has recently been the victim of fraud." "Your daughter was a teacher, met this guy and directed, claimed all this stuff, and built her for a lot of money, thousands of dollars." On Lisa's favorite man, Derek Ordred, reportedly racks up 20k on her credit cards before she discovers the truth,

and reports him to the police. An in a story that's becoming depressingly familiar. She's told taking her case any further would be a waste of time. "Any court in the country is going to say, "Well, you did that willingly, because you were in a relationship."

"Yeah, well, it was a relationship, it was all a fraud. But there's no prosecutor that would ever charge a case like that." "The John's mum's got hurt spur, so she does some of her own research on the guy." She found out that in June of 2014, Derek stayed at the Swanky St. Paul Hotel, racking up a significant bill while pretending to be a doctor.

Drinks, room service, the whole hog, and then when it came time to pay the bill, he disappeared. By the time he's sentencing hearing came around, yet again, he was nowhere to be found. Authorities had issued a warrant for Derek's arrest,

but was anyone actually looking for him. And that's where Paul comes in. John's mum thinks, if the cops weren't catching him for defrauding her daughter,

And she's come armed with info. Receipts, credit card bills, here's a business card.

“And what's this business card to have in the address?”

It's not the kind of case that Paul's unit would normally prioritize, but something about this call gets to him. So it gets to work. First, he heads to Derek's office, the one on that business card.

"I went to the address and showed pictures that never hurt him,

not the law firm that his list is working poor, never existed there. In fact, the sweet number that they had never existed in this building." Paul, now even more perplex, unless the help of a financial investigator on the team. Who comes up with an idea?

They know that Derek still has one of Joe Anne's credit cards. She blocks it once she learned the truth. But the investigator records, if she unlocks it, and Derek uses it someplace, they'll know where he is.

And so I reactivated,

“and that's when we learned of the Amtrak ticket.”

Derek had used Joe Anne's card to buy a train ticket.

Odyssey, Paul, to go to Portland. The 640 AM train, on November 7, 2014. The cops have a time and a location. Now, all they need to do is wait. It's stakeout time.

St. Paul Union Depot is a big ostentatious station. Grand columns, large vaulted ceilings, people everywhere. And dotted around the station, oh so casually, are about a dozen undercover officers. We had three guys on the train platform.

Other guys that were up in the train station itself, double parking lots, couple parking ramps on the streets around. They've been in place since 435 AM, scanning faces, waiting for the appearance of one, boarding, middle-aged white guy about yay tour.

Paul's in charge of this whole operation. So he's waiting in his truck outside the station, listening in over the radio.

“Any updates? Any updates? Any updates? You heard any more?”

They could be waiting for some time. But no worry, all is guaranteed to bring supplies. Honey roast peanuts, dry roast, licorice, gum draps,

crackers, stittles. The guys on my team always called me Snacks.

Then something interrupts the picnic. As the train approaches, Paul decides he has to see this guy taken down with his own eyes. He came inside, kind of like I was coming to pick somebody up. The train directly is used to catch Paul's in at the platform.

Undercover officers' board, searching faces, among the passengers. No sign of him. As the clock ticks down, the train prepares to leave. The train pulls off. There's just a couple minutes. Maybe he'll come tearing down the station lobby, running late.

Maybe he noticed a suspicious police-like activity and didn't board. Everybody just board your position. And then it's gone, trundling into the distance, headed for the west coast. The only people that left the train station were those that didn't have enough the train.

The message from surveillance is unanimous. There's no Derek and a nearby car watching. He's not scant his ticket at all. There's no way we missed him. It's like, damn.

That was about as cut and dried and perfect as we thought it was going to be. The next day, Paul gets a call from the financial investigator. Paul's still not sure how it happened. He's on the train, we confirmed he's on the train. Maybe Derek missed a local service, had to board the train at a later station.

Maybe he got tipped off somehow. Whatever the reason, they're sure of his location now. He's an hour and a half out of Portland, Orient. On the literal other side of the country from where Paul's team is. Trapped.

But no matter because Paul's next mask on, has won some friends over the years.

And those friends have some of their own friends.

“And he reached off to his contact in Portland.”

And they assembled a team and arrived just in time to see the train pulling in. Derek came walking off and they took him in the custody without incident. That ship back to Minnesota and went to Port and got sentenced to the county workers.

Derek is finally sentenced for theft by Swindle of the St. Paul Hotel.

On top of his sentence for skipping court, Derek has released back into the community after a grand total of nine months. A reformed man. He literally had just gotten out of prison like a week or two before I met him. So he wasted no time. So no, Derek is not a reformed man.

But he's fast becoming a man with dangerous enemies. Derek's victims are about to find each other. And if I were him, I'd be very, very nervous. What's up, everyone? I'm Jacob Odom, my next guest.

You know from stepbrothers, anchor man Saturday night live and the big money players network. It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever.

I went and had lunch with him one day.

“And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.”

I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come. Look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you. Which is really sweet.

Yeah. He goes, but there's so much lock involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall, and it doesn't feel funny anymore, it's okay to quit.

If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that.

There's a lot in life. Yeah. Listen to thanks dad on the iHeart Radio app, apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckard found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.

This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctor this particular test twice in selling stretch. I doctor the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for.

Some like the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Great, the Westby End. I can't imagine it.

My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is LoveTrap. Laura, Scott Stelpoise. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at America, for County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice has served in Arizona. Listen to LoveTrap podcast on the I-Heart Radio App. Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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understand the markets, and think like an owner, earn your leisure is the podcast for you. Listen to Ernie Leisure on the I-Heart Radio App, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lisa spent the whole journey home from the airport,

all two hours of it on the phone to her friends. She now knows all about the St. Paul Hotel scam, Derek's probation violation, his total and utter betrayal of her. And I'm grateful there was a lot of people in us, because I'm barley my eyes out.

Lisa finally gets back to her car.

By the time she makes it home, her friend's staff is already there. Waiting without the norms. We just embrace each other. I do think there are some tears. She goes, "I have just been nervous wreck since you've been gone in Hawaii."

I was just relieved that she was home safe. And the two of them waste no time. They start the search immediately. For anything and everything they could find, which might help them build a case against Derek.

I'm going through our his stuff. Seeing his real name, like they can wholly craft. Searching the luggage, he handed off to Lisa. I'm planning his phone. He had this app for people calling, like you could hit it

and they could call you pretending to be somebody. Where if you hit them, they would call him. It's all starting to click into place. None of those calls were real. None of the texts she got from his friends and family.

He had his roommate, same there, his sister's name there, his mom's name there. So he'd be talking to no one. Literally no one.

“I think he had the one friend that was pretending to be a sister.”

Because I would actually like hear female voice when he was talking to a sister. But no one else. Looking back, his calls had seen strangely well timed. We'd be talking about his dad and then like two minutes later. Oh, she but Carl.

Even though Derek talked of various women he dated about sisters, brothers, a daughter. I want to make it really clear. None of Derek's family members have ever been implicated in any of his crimes or accused of any wrongdoing.

When Lisa goes through her credit card statements, she finds that she isn't just out of pocket for the stuff Derek or still had asked her to pay for. It was everything. All their flights, their hotel stays, their meals.

All of it on Benoit's Lisa, having charged her own card. How it did I don't know.

Because I always have my credit card army on my body.

It was in my purse attached to me. Then I stuck went through his briefcase and I'm finding these USB ports. She opens one on her laptop. It just had my bank account, my amic stuff, my most far-go account.

Anything that I had used on my computer and then my social security number. Going through his phone, Lisa realizes that still, okay, Derek, wasn't volunteering at the home of shelter. I found that he lived there.

The hotels, the resort, the cheap and the ER visit, this visit, that visit, the dinner cruise.

“I think it was close to almost 10 grand.”

From bartered by all this new information, Lisa thinks back on her relationship, casting memories into a new light. She remembers the time she blacked out in Hawaii. I really think he drugged me and brought me upstairs,

because I don't remember any of that. It just makes you feel so, it's just, I don't know, just used and just upset that someone can do that to him and being. Derek says this allegation is completely untrue. But it's a suspicion that I stuck with Lisa for years.

I was just furious at him and furious at myself for trusting him all these times. Lisa feels angry, but also like she's somehow to blame, which of course she isn't. It's a sort of moment when you want to regain some control.

But Lisa doesn't get there. Normally when you go through a breakup,

But in a way, Lisa is the last to know.

I just felt like the most stupidest person in the world, like how could I let this human do this to me when I'm not a stupid woman, I'm all educated. I thought I knew him, but then looking back at like, "Oh, here's the spread fight.

Here's that red flag. Here's that one." But I didn't listen. My heart was just broken. Like how can I ever trust anybody to get? Like he just got into my heart.

I trusted everything you said and he just ripped it out. But it's more than just heartbreak. I'm angry beyond words. It's time for Derek to be held accountable. It's like November as cold out in St. Paul, Minnesota.

It's been just one day since Lisa learned the truth about Derek and two officers are pulling into her driveway. The cause won't Lisa to provide a statement. She tells them everything.

The first date, the white trip, the credit card staff.

They confiscate Derek's belongings. A black smartphone, three USB sticks, one grey, one white, one black, a phone charger. But really, they don't seem hopeful. He's kind of like, "Well, I'm sorry. This happened to you." But if he doesn't admit to it, we really can't do anything.

“And more or less we have more important things to do.”

The investigators explained to Lisa that the county's attorneys won't prosecute a case like this. Of all the theft that took place over the holiday, it's only really the initial flight purchases that land within their jurisdiction. And Derek bought those on her laptop. So he can just claim that she was well aware of the charges.

With me handing over my laptop and saying, "Sure, you can use it. You know, that's my last night of hope." That I allowed him to do that. So that's mentioning, she gave still all-dridge permission to use her laptop. A man who does not actually exist.

It's not exactly informed consent. It's not like keep broken and took the information from me. I let him in my house. So I just feel like they think, "Oh, another superwoman got, you know, swindled by a guy." I wasn't killed. I wasn't beat. It was just money taken by somebody I dated.

The investigators tell Lisa she could try contacting local police in Hawaii. But otherwise, he more or less just said, "You know, I'm sorry. You know, if we don't have any more evidence against him, we can't do anything." Then she says they offered her some off the record advice. You can call him in prison and try to get him to confess on the phone.

What's up, everyone? I'm Agobot. And my next guest, you know from stepbrothers, anchor man, Saturday night live, and the big money players network, it's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever.

“I went and had lunch with him one day and I was like, "Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot."”

I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come. Look for up and coming talent. He said, "If it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you." Which is really sweet. He goes, "But there's so much lock and ball."

And he's like, "Just give it a shot." He goes, "But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall, and it doesn't feel funny anymore, it's okay to quit." If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging in there.

Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of light. Yeah. Listen to thanks dad on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,

or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, former Bachelor Star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.

This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth.

“You doctor this particular test twice in silence, right?”

I doctor the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Some like the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.

Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Break a recipe and I could manage any. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is LoveTrap.

Laura Scott Stelpoise.

As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at America, for County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.

Listen to LoveTrap podcast on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth, with John Hill Bryant, I sit down with Tiffany, the Budgeonista, Alijay, to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money.

What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on well to the people when they no longer hear? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth

starting with the mindset shifts too many of us were never ever taught.

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“Will Ferris Big Money players and iHeart Podcast presents soccer moms?”

So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the Hips and High School. Absolutely.

Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the Hips. Just a little bit bigger Hips, wider. This is the podcast we're recording it as we tailgate. Are you soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey?

With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why? Did you get hard-seller instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Oh, then you go.

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Listen to soccer moms on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's November 2015. Lisa is back from Hawaii, grappling with the news that her boyfriend is a con man. And it doesn't seem like the cops can or will do much about it. And Derek, he's back in prison over his probation violation, serving out the remainder of his sentence.

Lisa has been informed that in just a few weeks time, Derek is due to be back out on the street. So if Lisa confines some evidence that Derek didn't actually have her permission to buy those flights, maybe the prosecutors can actually do something about it. So I'd about a little recorder and I wouldn't, you know, call him and I would try to, you know, make him confess. Lisa speaks to Derek over the phone from prison. It's the first time she's spoken to him as Derek, not a steal.

The man she thought she'd been building a life with. And like, well, you bought these tickets, he's like, no, I told you I was putting him on your card and I'd pay you back.

He would never confess to anything he did.

“I honestly believe you know, I started recording him, but he just he would not.”

I would fight with him on the phone. I'm like, you were in line to me. Like, you took my card. You said you'd pay me back and he'd like, Lisa, I did not. And he kind of look at angry in the phone.

You must hurt me. I never said that. He even sent me a handwritten letter saying how much he'd love me and how much he forgave me for accusing him. And he'd do the same on phone calls. You know, I still love you.

This is our just a mistake. I'm not this person that you think I am. He was getting out Christmas day. He wanted me to go out to the prison and pick him up and, you know, start over again. Needless to say, Lisa doesn't pause the present unwrapping to pick Derek up from prison.

But she does continue to call and text. Trying to get him to admit what he did. I was so upset and so helped and to get in him. A couple of weeks after Derek's release, Lisa is at work when someone approaches her. Awesome name and hands her an envelope.

“I remember opening up going, are you freaking kidding me?”

It's a restraining order. Derek has taken one out against her. I start crying and I think I went home. How an earth did this happen. Having already had 10 grand stolen from her.

Lisa now needs to hire a lawyer. She challenges the restraining order. And by February, she is sitting in court.

The park bench where Lisa and Steel had their first date, just six months ago,

Lisa, anxiously watches the door for a familiar face to appear.

“And every tender door opened my heart just like, "Stop."”

He never shows up. The judge dismisses the case. Cancels the restraining order. I spent more money on him on this lawyer. You know, to get this restraining order canceled and then he doesn't shop.

Not only was the justice system ignoring her. It was also being used against her by the man who'd lied and stolen from her. Then she got some news.

My niece text me and says I was schooling him and found he had done this with this girl in California.

A woman in San Francisco. That night I found her on Facebook. Connecting with her and talking to her, I was like, "Holy cow." Cindy, he had about an episode two.

“He hadn't seen Derek in two years, but she had spent her time wisely.”

She was helping her to get in this gate. Cindy had started a big fail going on him about her past women. It's Cindy who puts Lisa in touch with all the other women who'd had the misfortune of dating Derek Audred. They've got a shared Facebook group chat. By the time Lisa joins, they're already started potting out Derek's moves.

OK, show me when you dated him. Just keep an archeological order of all his little steps that he was doing and where he was at. He gets out of prison, gets settled wherever he's taken and then onto the next person. By now, it's a familiar story. Women who'd been targeted by Derek all seem to be falling through a particular crack in the justice system.

A crack that Derek appears to be taking full advantage of. Over only two years, Derek strikes three more times with three different women in the Minneapolis area alone.

“My heart broke through them thinking she's doing it again.”

Lisa reads allegations that he'd opened credit cards, stolen jewelry, and even drained a retirement savings account of nearly $200,000 in the space of a few months. This was just this power trip of doing this to women, because he'd just for some reason he did us. Two of those women, once they learned of each other's existence, actually teamed up to try and stop him.

And initially, it works. And the rest warrant is issued for Derek Audred. On August 8th, 2016, words spread through the group chat, that Derek has been arrested in Minnesota by local cops. It says that the top would be public safety, police services incident report.

Name Derek Mylen Audred, check forgery, redacted, told me that at the end. The report describes how women files a report against Derek, and the cops go to a house to arrest him. He was handcuffed using plastic cuffs in front of his body, due to having a risk brace on his left wrist that made using standard handcuffs in practical.

Also on this police report, Derek Audred's long and complicated arrest history. It's a long list, and it's broken down by year, and we start in 2005. Forgery, felony, burglary, obtained control substances by fraud, felony, in personate, by a man, misdemeanor,

and I'm sure that's not as a stripper, burglary, second degree, felony.

False worker compensurance claim. What's frustrating is the list doesn't really tell us much about what happened in between all of these arrests. So we did a bit of digging into some of the statements women have made to investigateers to journalists over the years, about their experiences with Derek, and discovered even more stories.

Like one allegation from 2011, an ex-wife of Derek, alleges that he convinced her to briefly move into a hotel while some wiring in her home is being fixed, but when her mother-in-law visits. There are men moving out all of their belongings, and the house has been foreclosed on. Produce the owner of fills me in on the details.

The woman that he married, looses the house. That's crazy. There's another story about a woman who, she's dating Derek, she looses her job, and she can't afford the rent. She'll explain to the investigators. He told her that he was taking care of the rent at a new place,

one he had encouraged them to move into, but he wasn't.

And once she learned the truth, she was evicted.

“She goes on to lose her entire life, saving, because he's strange her bank accounts.”

He's a proper proper con man. At the end of 2013, after Wendy, after Cindy, he meets another woman from Hawaii, and she's a doctor. The two go on a holiday to Puerto Rico together, where Derek's charming facade seems to drop.

He takes her license, her passport, he basically holds her hostage.

He rerout all of her calls and texts to his phone. At one point, she tries to run away, and even flags a car down, and he chases her down. By the time she makes it home, she learns that he's wiped. All her financial accounts of more than 35,000. He's made $60,000 in fraudulent credit card payments.

He's taken a $28,000-dollar advance out from her job in unworked ships. So she's basically fucked. Her business goes bankrupt.

“She's deeply traumatized, and he's disappeared.”

Wow. That one feels scary. All of these women are skilled professional smart, educated women. One of them is a nuclear scientist, and it shouldn't matter, obviously. It doesn't matter if they're not any of those things, or if they were manipulated into handing over money.

But it's not even that. What he's done is convince them to be in a relationship with him, and then stolen their money. Yeah, they're not aware about what's going on. So, I just want you to picture in your mind, Derek standing out front of a house in Minnesota, a classic handcuffs on, and now the would-be police have arrested him.

When I first read the arrest thing, I was like, "Oh, I'm struggling to get that excited.

“Because it just feels like this man gets away with everything."”

But having all of this information, it makes it feel like Derek's time is up. But don't get too excited. My suspicions were right earlier. Woodbury PD had released Derek while they built a case. And in a move, right out of the Derek Audrad playbook, he simply disappeared again.

Lisa was trying to move on with her life. I'd forget about it for a while, and then another text had come. And not date from one of the girlfriends in the group chat.

They'll bring all the pain back for Lisa.

Who he did this to, who this and that, and it's just when making crying. I just, like, this has got it in. I need to let it go. Lisa, come out of my life. And just when Lisa results to put this whole thing behind her.

A new message pings into her inbox. An update, so irresistible that Lisa is drawn right back in. I vowed, I will be his last target. Next time, on the girlfriends, trust me babe. Derek sets his sights on a new target in Texas.

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