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So don't wait, head to Apple Podcasts search for iHart True Crime Plus and subscribe today. Before we get started, I wanted to be real with you about what you're about to hear, so you can decide if now's the right time to listen. This episode talks about a fatal car accident, and the deep grief that's followed.
It's a powerful story about loss, but also about unexpected connections and healing. Carolyn and Chad were completely smitten with each other. They fell hard in their 20s. The kind of love that feels like it's written in the stars. They got married at 30, still crazy in love.
My relationship with Chad was life-changing. It's probably the easiest word to say just off the top of my head.
We were both the same age, and I should always say,
"I was born, and then God created, I saw the fate." They built a beautiful life together. Carolyn was an interior designer, Chad was an architect, and together they run a successful design studio, basically a dream team. They even designed and built their own home, which is ultimate couple goals. We were inseparable. We were both creatives.
Everything we did from the way we dressed to the way we were, how we did sand school to and on the weekends, and kept our bathing suits in our car. Because after work, we'd just go wash a sunset and hang out at the beach. It was less. Eventually, they had two lovely daughters, and Carolyn decided to step back from the business
To focus on being a full-time mum.
Life was busy, but beautiful. So when Valentine's Day rolled around in the year 2000, she wanted to make it feel really special. I had made a late reservation at an Italian restaurant.
“I remember him, and I just literally each other going, "How did we become so blessed?"”
To anything else beyond this is really just going to be so much extra than we could even have imagined. And I had bought this beautiful peach, cashmere outfit where that night. After a romantic dinner, they decided to take the scenic route home in that convertible, a peaceful drive by a beautiful late in Orlando, Florida.
I remember taking my camera and turning it and taking a picture of him because I wanted to just freeze time and all of a sudden a car came up next to us. And came kind of close to our vehicle, and since I was in the passenger side, it caught my attention. The car veered into their lane, and so chart instinctively turned to avoid the collision. And with that over-correction came a spiraling out of control.
In those split seconds everything changed. We were skidding, and we hit the light pole in the light pole came down. Chad had forgotten to put a seat belt on and he was ejected from the vehicle and hit his head. And he was thrown back down into the car on top of me. Carolyn jumped into action.
I became a first responder to do CPR on my own husband on the back of the vehicle.
Chad was rushed to hospital in an ambulance. Carolyn wasn't allowed to ride with him, but eventually the police officer drove her to the emergency room. But I didn't know, is that evidently I was splattered with an enormous amount of blood on my beautiful peach hedge-meer clothing. When Carolyn saw herself in the hospital bathroom mirror, she was shocked.
“I realized this is Chad's blood. If I'm this bad, how bad is he?”
That Valentine's night marked a turning point in Carolyn's life. In the wake of what happened at the hospital, she found herself grappling with heartbreak and isolation.
Yet from that pain emerged a powerful drive to connect with others.
Over time, she channeled her grief into building a community of women bound by similar experiences. One that would grow into a transformative, international sisterhood, and lead to a surprise meeting 25 years later. I'm Anison Field, and from the teams at Novel and I Heart Podcasts. This is The Girlfriend Spotlight, where we tell stories of women winning.
Today, Carolyn builds a wish to hurt. Before her design career, Carolyn Moore had trained as a nurse. So being in a trauma unit wasn't unfamiliar to her. But being on the patient side was completely new.
Our past, before she was finally allowed to see her husband, Chad.
“I remember they said he's not going to look like you're used to seeing him. He's going to have a lot of”
machines, and he's bruised, his head shaved, all of these things. And so they were mentally preparing me. But there's to be honest with you, no way. You can't be prepared to see the person you love the most in that fragile of the state. And I do remember when the doctor came to talk to me, we stepped outside and he said, some very serious, if we don't like the pressure, he could die. Probably not, but the same person ever again that you know of went down or kind of horrified
list. But as a eternal optimist, that I am and knowing the character of my husband, I thought, well, tell me what the good news is. Give me some glimmer of hope. And the doctor said to me that he didn't tell anyone else. And in that moment, I went, anyone else, what do you,
What do you mean?
This was a hit run car accident. And I lost it. I just lost it. The lack of sensitivity and the
“compassion in that statement to me. And I went into advocacy mode right away. And I said,”
I don't like you. I don't want you near my husband. You're fired. And please do not ever talk to me again. Chad's condition continued to worsen. Eventually, and us broke the news. I saw that the cranio pressure was actually growing. And there was the moment standing in the room and she said, his eyes are not dilating. He is not responding to pain. And I clearly remember saying,
are you trying to tell me that Chad just died? And she said yes.
And that was the moment you just dropped out to the ground. But comes an extremely deep
“primal cry. And I remember that clearly. I remember how low and I felt. And now this just seems”
impossible because of how big Chad was in my life and to me personally. And my feelings and thoughts towards him, how good death have taken him. It just didn't seem possible. Chad was declared dead on Valentine's Day, February 14th, 2000. They didn't really want it actually on Valentine's Day because
that was too heavy across for me to bear because of how badly in love we were. And it just seemed
cruel after leaving the hospital. Carolyn puts pen to paper. I ended up writing a letter to the nurses for the extraordinary care and compassion that they showed me. But also wrote a letter to the
“administration about the doctor and the way he treated me. And how I felt it was insensitive and unfair”
and cruel. And I asked for them to fire him. And you send the letters and you don't ever know what happens. But for me that was some kind of closure to this just overwhelming experience of emotions. Carolyn wrote other letters too. Chad and Carolyn had signed up to be organ donors and so she wrote to the man who had received Chad's halt. This case it was unique. It was a gentleman receiving a heart on Valentine's Day. Even when I say it, it's hard to believe it's my and Chad story. You could send
a letter anonymously. No guarantees that anyone would write you back but we wrote back. A lot of we'll gratitude a lot of sharing about the person but not knowing the name. And so after two years they said we believe that there's a genuine connection between the two of you and there's no ulterior motives or anything. So we're going to let you to meet. And we did. We actually met in person and I got to meet his wife and his two kids. And amazingly, same age as us married the same amount of time,
children the same age. Wow. And it was extremely emotional meeting his wife because if you think about going back in history on that night, here was a woman in West Virginia who thought she was going to lose her husband. He was near death. He needed a heart. And then here's my husband having no idea that it's going to be a fate for evening for us and I donate his heart and they receive it. It's a remarkable story of resilience, of true generosity, of understanding that this life may
be over, but it could be a renewed life for someone else. But me and his wife, there were so much unspoken words just looking at each other in our eyes. It was probably more emotional meeting her than it was him and seeing the scar on his chest. And for years after that, we stayed connected and they sent me flowers on Valentine's Day. After the break, Carolyn faces life as a young widow, which means facing up to an uncomfortable truth. Widows are very misunderstood and they need someone
to rally around them. Someone like Carolyn. In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever.
I didn't think I was going to live.
They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case.
“Yes, sure. It's fair to say this was the biggest case here, career. Yes, sir.”
Red, the murder of a child is probably more challenging. It battles against. I would think so. People wake up and the woman saw the murder, take place by crevents and the people. Anthony DiPipo showed no signs of remorse appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said, "I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grave." Listen to the devil's quarry on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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“"Why do I breed?" I inherited that fandom from my mom. I think watching it was my dad.”
It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernando Chavari and this is American football. I show about soccer culture in the U.S. and it's under dog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones I don't like?
Actually, nobody likes that. As we get ready for the men's world cup this summer,
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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm HodaKatby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with HodaKatby. Okay, if you know me,
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(BEEP) Carolyn suddenly found herself a widow, navigating life with two young children on her own. Her daughters were just four and six when chapped died.
“I would have loved to have had a lot more support, but I think for me personally, being alone,”
going from being an extroverted person to being forced to be an introverted person, helped me, helped me work through it internally. Because I was rebuilding my entire new self. I was no longer a child's wife,
and so I had to claw myself out of the depression.
I had to make really healthy choices, like not to have alcohol on my house, as a backup to drown my self-talk, the negative self-talk that would come in. I learned very early on that if no one comes to help or support you, how do you still want your life to end up for you and your daughters? And you said you were 37 when this all happened.
I mean, that's a very young age for someone to take on the title widow. How did you feel about that?
“Honestly, I never thought about what it was before that moment.”
And the sad part is, as I should have, because my own mom had been widowed to years prior.
So that word took on an entirely new perspective of I thought being a widow was being honorable. I had kept to promise the vows that I had made. There was a balance of pity in myself and being pitted by society every year I'd walk into a drugstore, and there's all the Valentine's Day cards. Like I can't escape this moment in my life and how it filtered everything.
So the word widow to me in the beginning was a life of sadness, a life of duty, a responsibility, both in keeping his memory alive and keeping my family alive financially and emotionally. And how do I figure out to go forward? I don't know when you won, who's 37 and widowed in the only one that is having this experience. And what I mostly wanted was to find that tribe.
“She worried for her girls, too. Remember taking a note and sticking it on a cork board”
and seeing that all the statistics on what is supposed to happen to my daughters now that they're fatherless. Oh, great. Early pregnancy, drug use, homelessness, lack of education, all these things. And I literally took a marker and I put on there over my dead body. I was willing to do whatever it took to help my daughters. All right, sounds like you're doing an awful lot of caring for other people and you can only do that for so long. Heart and you before it just comes
up and out. What I could is the best word that I would use for it is disorienting. You don't know who you are. You don't know where you're going. You don't know if you're going to be able to do it. You look the same on the outside, but you're just a shell of who you used to be. I was extremely vulnerable with no one recognizing my needs. And me, not even fully knowing what those work, do ask someone. Caroline tried the traditional roots for support. Church, therapy,
grief centers, but nothing quite fitted what she needed. This was before social media, so it's difficult to connect with other young widows and the in person support groups. Well, I certainly with the youngest person there, they actually thought I was a volunteer coming to help. I would say that average age was 75. She attended children's grief programs with her daughters at a place called New Hope for Kids and found some community with other parents. But that program only lasted
for a while. Caroline experienced firsthand just how little support there was for young widows. And in the years that followed, she was on a mission to change things. She started volunteering
With New Hope for Kids and became a board member.
A home renovation show called Shalom in the home came to town. It's this TLC reality show where
“an Orthodox rabbi comes into help dysfunctional families. For their latest season, they were looking”
for a family dealing with grief. So they wanted to put my name in the hat and they interviewed me and they said, "Why do you feel stuck in wittlefoot?" And I said, "I'm in love with a man who isn't a life. I don't understand why people can't understand this." And they go, "Oh, you're perfect for the TV show." And so I got chosen for this TV show that ended up being a turning point for me. Caroline had been holding onto a memory box. In it, she had kept the bloody clothes from the
night of the accident. It was the most bizarre thing. It's like I felt close to Chad because it
was his blood. But then it reminded me of the horror of it. And on the TV show, we decided to bury it. Literally bury the clothing. And we did it under a great fruit tree that we
“had planted for Chad. Caroline's episode of Shalom in the home really struck a chord with the viewers.”
And next thing she knows, she's been invited to appear on the Oprah show. They made me an example of someone who's doing an extraordinary job as a solo parent because the show was called troubled families and it was parents who were having trouble raising strong families. And here I was the person who was supposed to fail doing an extraordinary job. After her Oprah appearance, Caroline started getting requests for mentorship from other widows. And I said, I can mentor two ladies. I can
do that. I have a free Thursday open every month. And I will do that. And to be honest with you, I learned a big universal role that widows know widows. And so every widower that I would meet, a new another widower who was looking for support. And that's when it started. It was the modern widows club, which Caroline officially founded in 2011. The organisation helps widows directly with what they need, but also advocates for awareness on
their behalf. Each month widows would gather either locally or virtually to discuss specific topics. Things like emotional and mental health, financial health, purpose, meaning, things like that. The club also did research about widows heard in different cultures and age groups. It revealed that recovering from the death of a partner takes much longer the most support systems acknowledge. Our research shows it takes somewhere between five to seven years.
And so by not being there, not having bridge programs for women after they leave the typical one to two year grief support were actually participating in the neglect of their full recovery.
“Full recovery is I remember and respect the life that I had before. I bring the grief with me,”
but the grief has been now transformed and it brought me personal growth. You said in the research that it takes roughly five to seven years for someone to reach for recovery when do you think you did? Well, I'd probably say you're 15. Well, because of the lack of support, what I'm seeing today is truly a five to seven year for the women who find the comprehensive support that we provide today.
Beneathments, it seems to be just one of those things that requires community to successfully transition through it, doesn't that? Yes, social connections to produce isolation and loneliness is one of the greatest versus experiences. I guess like a lot of us, probably the most likely way that we'll interact with widowhood first and foremost is, you know, the losing of one of our parents while one still survives. Do you have tips of how someone
should be there for their mum or dad when their spouse passes away? The three most powerful words
I can say is, tell me more. A lot of times people don't realize by simply being a beautiful listener and inviting more stories to come out of them versus not talking about it is actually what creates, clean and also creates healthy bonds. With the modern widow's club, Caroline created something beautiful, a sisterhood of widows, which she calls the "wisterhood" and she also found a way to reclaim Valentine's Day. We remember the bird days and the end of the research, but we also
Remember the days and one passed away because that day too is sacred.
loss of our loved one in Angel Varsary. Angel Varsary. And so because Chad was an organ donor,
“I would give blood every year. It just seemed like the right thing to do, giving saving lives. And so”
I would just give blood and eventually as the community grew around the world, people were curious what I did on that day and I said, "Well, I actually go give blood because it's a way for me to remember the gifts that Chad honor the gifts that he actually gave to save other people's lives." This annual blood drive became known as Caroline's Angel Varsary, away from widows to transform Valentine's Day from a day of trauma into one of giving and healing. What I found out
was that Valentine's Day for some reason is one of the slowest days at the blood donation banks. Wow. And so I like the thing that it actually contributed to an uptick on that day and invite people every year. Publicly, go give blood, make your appointment and give blood.
“I think there's something quite romantic about giving blood on Valentine's Day, right?”
That feels like something we should all be doing. While Caroline was building the modern widows club, doing research around widowhood, speaking about her experiences, building community and organizing blood donation drives. There was someone else whose life had been profoundly changed by that same night in the hospital back in 2000. After the break, Caroline gets an unexpected text.
In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever. I didn't think I was going to live. I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It's scared the hell out of me.
That was your first murder case. Yes, yeah.
It's fair to say this was the biggest case here, career. Yes, sir. Read the murder of a child who's 12-year-old child. It's battles against. I would think so. People wake up and the one that saw the murder, take place by crevents and the people. Anthony DiPipo showed no signs of remorse appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said I'm not guilty, I'll take it to the grave.
Listen to the devil's quarry on the iHard radio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to hear the devil's quarry at free with exclusive content, subscribe to Love of For Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I love the sounds, the buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, football, it's home. Why do I wash the world cup? That's like asking me,
“why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I think watching it with my dad.”
It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernando Chavari and this is American Football. I show about soccer culture in the US and it's under dog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that though. Are they the only ones I don't like?
I actually don't know if it likes that. As we get ready for the men's world cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the Michael Thuda Podcast Network, available on the iHard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kattby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kattby. Okay, if you know me,
you know this. I'm always searching for inspiration, for support, and useful tools to help
maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover all of that together. We're going to have these meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people, like when actress Olivia Mann shared how she overcame fierce health challenges that she never saw coming. I've gone through breast cancer and it helped my mother through breast cancer, and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand post-partner depression. I was not prepared for post-partner anxiety.
Olympic champ Sean Johnson revealed why she had no choice, but to be a gymnast. There was something about gymnastics that was intoxicating to me. It's given me a belief
That we all have one of those treasures inside of us.
Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kattby on the iHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guest is Haris Hilton, Shakita, Luke, and Yirin. Samida E. Gracie. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. You have surprises. Manis surprises. Welcome to Sweetpeal 5 with a good chat. Come to life. What a f*****t. It's like a wonderful day. It's like, "Hola amiga, Hola mirola mirola mirola, Hola hermana, what a f*****t."
Look, I never saw a word with Naomi. It's up to me. See you guys. My children, if you're having a f*****t.
You're the only person I know that loves the Yala Starbursts. I'm a nerd. I'm a nerd. I'm like, how can I do this? I don't know how to do this. This is Sweetpeal 5. Listen to Sweetpeal 5 with lelepons as part of my culture of podcast network. On the iHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone sees me as a football player, but before anything else, I'm a human.
Every single day I'm still learning how to live with problems, mistakes, relationships,
“emotions, everything I was born. And I still have so many questions where do we come from?”
What happens after that? How do you deal with cancellation, discount, or messy to 80 and 60s? What is love? Real Madrid or Baza, from everyday an ordinary to the deep and extra dinner. This isn't a normal pot. Everything here is spontaneous, real and genuine. This podcast is like a deep talk with your closest friends. Where we're gonna really think comes out on speed as you hear is end up on the table.
And goals and lessons are always the way that you, or the imperfect, you're supposed to pay me.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to talk about this anymore. We are here to connect. It's a fabulous study to learn this, and together with Ika Radio, we're going to make the ordinary extraordinary stay close. It isn't Kara. Listen to learning to be human or Ika Radio, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Parallel to Carolyn's Journey in Researching and Advocating for Widows. There was another story quietly unfolding, a story that goes back to Valentine's Day, 2000.
I was sitting at a luncheon for the Center of Florida Women's League, and Carolyn was a speaker talking about new hope for kids. This is Jane with us. I sat in the back of that room and instantly recognized Carolyn and thought, "Oh my goodness, I know this woman. I hadn't seen her since Chad's death. And I had to hold myself in the chair. I wanted to run up and say to her,
“"Do you remember me? I was there. I know you." Jane was the nurse working in the emergency room. The night chat was brought in.”
She never forgot Carolyn. And in particular, she never forgot that moment when the doctor so insensitively implied that Chad had caused the fatal accident.
What I do remember is how that stuck with me and created so much moral distress. Here was a woman who I totally related to because she was the same age. I knew that she was a previous nurse. Somehow I was aware of the fact that she was a mother and coincidentally, her children were the exact age as my children. And I realized that here was a woman who was struggling. She was going through a horrible nightmare. And as a healthcare system, we contributed to her suffering. Jane had been in a senior role at the hospital.
And what she witnessed that night stuck with her? How when Carolyn asked about Chad's condition, the doctor said, "At least he didn't kill anyone else. I can remember how upset the clinical staff was that we were in a situation that we couldn't save.
“A young man's life. I remember that Carolyn was just a fierce advocate.”
It made a little bit of the staff feel uncomfortable because here is a woman who was like a tiger. I mean, she wasn't having it. And so everybody was a little on-edge, but they respected her because she commanded that level of respect. There was no stopping her. She was going to speak out. But I also felt very helpless because I was in a role where I was in nurse. And this was a neurosurgeon. And what was my role in addressing the way that he spoke to her?
Remember, after Chad's death, Carolyn sent two letters to the hospital.
One, expressing her anger about the doctors in sensitive behaviour and another thanking the nursing staff.
“The thing that I remember to this day is an envelope that appeared on my desk”
and opening this envelope, realizing that it was a letter from a patient's wife. And this picture fell out and I stared at the picture before I read the letter. And it was a picture of Carolyn and Chad and her two young daughters. And I remember thinking this could be my family. This could be my family. And then I read that letter where Carolyn so graciously thanked the nursing staff for the care that they
provided her during this ordeal. But then read again those words that created so much suffering to her. I remember to this day, carrying this letter to the chief of trauma and then the chief of staff's office and showing them the picture and shaking it and saying something has to be done. Jane wanted to change things. And as the years passed, she rose through the ranks of hospital leadership, eventually becoming chief nurse executive and vice president of nursing. In that role,
she oversaw 6,000 nurses across 10 hospitals. Now she had a seat at the table to push for change. I was able to partner with strong physician leaders and work with colleagues to evaluate the patient experience and our ability to train and support clinicians to provide caring, compassionate, caring, communicate more effectively. I've since retired from acute care, but now I am on the faculty at the University of Central Florida here in Orlando.
And I have another opportunity to influence and educate future nurses and future physicians. And so this work is continuing. And throughout all these years, Jane remembered Carolyn. I was at
another event and it was a women's event and they had amazing keynote speakers and lowered
behold one of the speakers was Carolyn Moore. And she was speaking about the work that she was doing with widows and told her story similar to what she's sharing with us today. And I thought, holy moly, and I had that feeling in my gut, almost a feeling of shame of that ugly part of the story that I was involved in that we didn't break her bad news appropriately. There are series of coincidences that almost feel like fate. Jane met some of the
“widows who are part of Carolyn's club and they looked at me and they said, Jane, you have to”
meet her. You have to meet Carolyn. She would love to see you. And I was scared. I was like, really nervous. I thought, do I really want to meet her and stir up all of these old memories in her and who am I and her? You know, I'm a drop in her story. Here's Carolyn. So I was actually just looking at my phone and I get a text one, one of the moderators of the club ladies. I'm Lucy. And Lucy texts me and says, Carolyn, you're not going to believe it, but I'm sitting here next
to a woman named Jane who was the nurse in the trauma ICU when Chad died. What did you make of that? Reading that text, I went, my hands started shaking literally because I'm thinking, how does she even remember me? Like, this has been 25 years ago. I did not realize that there was a witness for this. This entire 25 years, I just assumed that this was something that happened in that was a memory of mine. And so I'm like, oh my gosh, Lucy, I would love to meet her.
“And I think Carolyn was amazed that I remembered the details and I think I validated it and there”
was an instant connection. And I thought, what is the synergy? What could the two of us do together and what possibilities are out there for us to take our lived experiences and maybe do something good in the world? When they finally sat down together, Jane was able to fill in some of the missing pieces of Carolyn's experiences from that awful night. But also afterwards, how Halesa had impacted the hospital's policy. Carolyn sobbed when we talked about what the doctor said to her
25 years later, it's still impacting her and it's still impacting me. And I will never
Condone the way he spoke to her, but I understand it more and understand that...
are burnout, they're stressed, they're in a system that doesn't work perfectly. As I was sitting in the parking lot to go into meet Carolyn for the very first time, I googled that physician's name and an obituary came up and I walked in to the restaurant and during the course of the conversation I said to Carolyn, he's no longer with us, he's passed away. Carolyn and Jane have
found a powerful connection in that shared commitment to helping others. This is a greater story than
even the two of us. I was so proud of Jane thinking she took that experience, she didn't have to take what happened to me and turn it into a great lesson for change in her industry. For me, when I talk about silver lining that was as an advocate at heart, she solved my pain and she saw
“this isn't unnecessary pain that doesn't have to happen. And so how can we prevent that?”
This is the power of girlfriends coming together. Our role now is not just healing the world, but also reducing the unnecessary pain that people have to experience by education and awareness. Thanks to Carolyn and Jane. Carolyn has been doing such important work on behalf of widows across the world. Modern widows club is helping widows not just survive, but actually thrive. They offer community and mentorship and tools to heal and grow, all wrapped in genuine support
from people who really get it. You can check it out at modern widowsclub.org. Carolyn's a real force for good, but Jane's advocacy also really surprised me.
“I get why Carolyn at the center of the trauma would do everything she could to make her and”
other widows live better. But Jane was an observer on a busy, relentless shift. How often do we all see something that makes our stomach's turn and yet we just walk away thinking that's not my business. She deserves some real kudos for actually standing up for what was right. I reckon we could all be a little more Jane.
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“Next time on the girlfriend's spotlight, Anna catches a catfish.”
And I said, there's just one thing that I want to say to you and that is just please don't ever do this to anyone else. Because I was on the verge of suicide when I found out with him.
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