#2491 - Brian Simpson

>> The Joe Rogan experience. >> Train my day Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. [MUSIC] >> Do you have good new classics? >> No, I just have different player for different.

>> Did they get stronger? >> No. >> No. >> I just have a--

>> Did you always have glasses?

Like, do you have a eyeball issue? >> Yeah, I got a stick with his. >> Okay. >> But I got one for driving and one for my computer. I used to have to use reading glasses.

Then I started using red light, red light therapy.

“And I think the first thing I started doing is taking this company pure encapsulation”

has this, it's called a macular support. It's like a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs. I don't know how. But I explained it to you, Roman, he read it off to me and he's like this makes sense. But then the big one was red light.

I started using red light therapy, I don't need glasses anymore. >> What? >> Yeah, my eyes aren't perfect. Like, in low light, they're not so good. Like, you know, dark restaurant, I have to use the flashlight on my thing to read

a menu, but I don't need glasses anymore. >> So I've been wondering that, is it that I'm getting older or I just use and darker light in the restaurant? >> They definitely use dark light in restaurants. I mean, young people can still read it.

Like, I've gone to restaurants with my kids and they can read. And the dark, I'm like, you can read that? >> I can't read it. But, like, small print, like on my phone, like reading an email, I didn't used to be able to read it.

And now I can read it perfectly. >> See now, I'm in that age now when I've got to start switching. >> Switching glasses. >> Different. >> Yeah.

Here we go. >> Listen, dude, I'm just happy you're alive. >> Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you know, man, people don't know what we're talking about. You had a heart attack.

>> Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago. Super Bowl weekend. >> Yeah. >> In Atlanta. >> Yeah.

>> I don't know where. >> Well, wasn't really out of nowhere, not really. [ Laughter ] >> You know, like, there's a, there's not like you're a marathon runner. >> Right, right.

Exactly.

“But I was sitting there, you know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking, because I remember”

the doctor, because, you know, we really are, like, we've set ourselves up, we can kind of deal with trauma in a not, I mean, you're going to argue about whether, how it's

whether it's healthy or not, but with, but I first go to his humor.

>> Right. >> And I remember the doctor getting upset with me. Like the, the surgeon, the lady I was about to, she was about to put a spit. So, you know, I'm sitting there and she was like, hey, something very serious just happened to you.

You know, because I was just talking, you know, I was, but it was just how I was just coping, you know, right? >> Right. >> Have you about it? >> Did you tell her that's how I deal with things?

>> No, I was already all drugged up in shit. You know, because it was one of the things where I think, like, you can't, they can't put you out completely, like, it's not that kind of anything. >> Oh, okay. >> But they, but I think they need you to be conscious, kind of, in case something goes wrong.

>> Right. >> But whatever the fuck they put me, I don't remember any of it. And you were joking around and she was upset. >> Yeah, what happened was, when I got to the hospital, the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget his name, but he was like, hey, I'm dug and don't, don't worry about anything.

I'm gonna be with you the whole time. You know, and then maybe 20 minutes later, you know, they wheeling me in, they drugging me up. And I'm like, hey, what the fuck is dug? >> [LAUGH] >> You know, and they're like, who's dug?

I was like, he's, he promised me that he wasn't gonna leave. And obviously obviously I was just joking around, I know like he would just sand it. So I would calm down. >> Right. >> I don't know why Doug thought he would bring me comfort.

But I just, but I, I, I, I fake made a big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug. And she didn't think it was funny. >> But somebody did, and that's all I needed was the laugh. I'm like, it's you bitch, it's not me. You're the problem.

You're too serious in here.

“>> Well, why would she need you to be serious if you're getting this tent put in?”

Would that make it work better? I mean, to be fair, I think my whole life people have said as serious as a heart attack. And I feel like if, if you dedicated your life to that, you probably a serious person. [LAUGH] >> I don't know any of the heart surgeons, but I bet they all pretty uptight.

>> Yeah, they have to be. It's life for death with every decision that they make, right? >> I guess. >> They gotta get it in on time, right? They're like, they're gonna put a tent in you if they're gonna do something.

Like, if you're one of those people like you are that if you didn't address this, you would have died. >> Right.

>> So, that's one of those things that's time critical.

So, I guess with those people like, hey, stop fucking around. Like, in their mind, like, I gotta save you. I gotta figure out what has to be done within a certain amount of time and get you on the road to recovery, because if I don't, you're dead. >> You know what?

Something I remember.

is she kept yelling at me because I kept moving my hands.

So basically, like, I'm laid down like this, and they want you to keep,

they want you to keep your hands right by your side. And I just remember, I kept coming to with her being like, hey, keep your hands. She mighta say, keep your fucking hands down. I don't know though, but I don't know. I ain't gonna make no accusations.

But she was clearly upset about it. She was upset. But I'm like, bitch, I'm on drugs. You gave me. >> Right.

>> I'm not going on purpose. Apparently, my default response, because they, because they put it, they have to put a stand in, but they go through your groin. >> Yeah. >> So apparently, like, my default response is to protect my dick.

>> Right. >> Like, I'm waking up, somebody's fucking around down there. >> [LAUGH] >> You know?

“>> It's like, why don't you all time me down if it's that important?”

>> Right. >> Well, it's a time of hands down. >> Right. >> But maybe they can't. I don't know.

I don't know what else is going on.

And medical people are real sensitive about criticism. >> Yeah. >> You know, some of them were really like, we save lives. How dare you? >> It's like, all right.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah, some of y'all still ask those though. >> But they don't have the best sense of humor. They can't. Like, that's not the way, if you want to be a really good doctor,

you can't be all so standard. >> Well, see, you don't see the nurses have a sense of humor. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right.

>> Those nurses are fun. >> They might as well be different species. >> Yeah. >> Nurses are fun. Like nurses come in, they joke around with you.

They fuck around, like some of them do at least. >> Yeah. >> And some of them can't be honest. >> Yeah. >> And the nurses were incredibly attractive.

>> Like real. >> Like, real. >> Everywhere, I think. >> Mm-hm. >> Like nurses, and it's something about like that text.

>> Like working at it, the lady's working at the vet hospitals. >> Yeah. >> It's something about going to that field. I don't know what it is. >> That text means veterinarians.

>> Yeah. >> But not the doctors. >> Right. >> Just the nurses. >> Well, the people who love animals, sweet people.

>> Oh, yeah. >> And money. They love animals. >> Mm-hm. And that profession.

>> But the veterinary and hospital certainly loves money. >> And the administration. >> Speaking of which, I can't, I can't decide which pisses me off more is. Like when I get the bill at the human hospital, or when, or because of the vet hospital, I feel like they're, I feel like they're, like they're extorting me.

You know, like when I got the bill from this hospital, I was like, "God damn." But I was in there and they were, because they didn't walk up to me while, like before the surgery goes, what's it going to be? >> Right.

“>> But when they show pet, that's what they do.”

>> Right. >> We could do this life-saving thing, which is the best thing to do. But it's way more money than you have. Or, you know, you can be a piece of shit, pet owner, and get the $20 thing. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> They're trying to get you to take out a loan. >> All that. >> Just really turn the screws. >> Yeah, that's awful.

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of a website or domain. >> Yeah, I don't know when the last time you had to do some serious shit for your pet. >> Pretty recently. >> Marshall swallowed a bunch of rocks. >> Oh, god damn.

>> Yeah, he, um, we, someone spilled chicken food on the gravel, and he ate on the chicken food, and then just kept eating, and started eating gravel. >> Oh, my god. >> He's retarded. >> He's a Swedish.

>> He's a Swedish dog that's ever walked face to the earth, but he is not clever. And so, um, we bring him inside. No one knows. No one knows anything that happened. And then he starts throwing up and he's throwing up rocks, like little pebbles.

And then he starts getting diarrhea and he's diarrhea and pebbles. I'm like, oh, no. And then we put two and two together. We figured out what happened. And so then I had to take him to the vet.

So I took him to the vet and he had to stay there overnight. And luckily, they didn't have to do surgery. Um, they pumped it out of it. They somehow and other got the rocks out of his stomach and they had to keep scanning it to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there.

And so he passed all the rocks. Either threw them up or shit them out.

“And then within a certain amount of time, I think he was there for,”

he was there for at least 24 hours. But after a certain amount of time, he started eating, and then they weren't worried about him anymore. That dog fucking eats. He just all he wants to do is eat. He gets so excited.

>> Yeah. >> But all he wants to do is favorite things he wants to eat. >> Every muscle of the flavor of this dirt. >> It's so crazy. I kept eating rocks.

I mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't like a small amount of gravel. It was the mountain gravel that was in my living room. On the carpet was crazy. >> Oh, wow.

>> The out of throw up and just diarrhea. It was everywhere.

>> I bet you he won't do that shit again.

>> Oh, yeah, you will. He'll do it tomorrow. >> He'll do it tomorrow. >> He'll do it tomorrow. He'll do it tomorrow.

He'll do it tomorrow. He'll do it tomorrow. He'll do it tomorrow. He's the best. He's a sweet dog.

I love him so much. He's just wagging his tail. I get down the ground with him. He kisses me. I hug him.

I rub his belly. He's the best. But he is not. That used to be a wolf.

“That's what so fucked up about human beings.”

We took something that's the most clever. They communicate with each other. They plan traps on animals. They're so clever. You can't, and also, you can't train them.

You know that about wolves? You can't train them.

That's why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus.

You cannot train. You can train a bear. You could train a lion. You could train a tiger. Wolf's just go fuck you.

I'm going to do exactly what I want to do. But not dogs. Certainly not my dog. Like Marshall. He's the sweetest.

He was so easy to train. Yes, wow. Because you can't train a lion. But you can't train a lion. Can't train a wolf.

Well, you could train house cats to do certain things. Like some people have trained their house cats to shit in the toilet. No, there's a video of like, I want to see his Russian. He's Russian. He's like the world champion cat trained in.

And she's getting these cats to do a whole bunch of shit. But every now and then. They do what they want. They just do what the fuck they want. Yeah, that's true.

You can't get them to do it like, like a really good dog with like a Belgian malum. Absolutely. Absolutely. Just does every task you ask him to do. That's impossible.

Absolutely. But with wolves, you can't train me to do anything. They won't listen. I didn't know that. They don't listen to you at all.

I had a friend who had wolves. He had like seven eighth timber wolves. And they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor sheep. They like, you couldn't stop them from doing anything they wanted to do. Whatever they wanted to do.

Why do you have a pack of wolves? He's an idiot. He had three of them. I was like, you don't have these dogs. You just feed them.

You don't. This is not like a dog. No. They don't listen to you. And you have a house with a yard.

Like that's crazy.

“Like you should have like an enormous piece of land.”

And even then, if you have wolves, they're going to kill everything they've run across. Yeah, they need miles of space. Yeah, they're their cardio machines. They run through the mountains.

They chase down moose. That's why I guess I'll irritate it when. Because I'm in an apartment now. And I'm in one of those. I don't know what the fuck is going on with my building.

But it's full of dog. Like the building is for dog people. There's a dog wash. The all of the grass around it is all fake. And there's there's a fucking shit bags every 10 feet.

And the front of the building from like noon to 4 p.m.

It always just the strongest sin of dog piss.

Because 50 people have walked their dogs around. And that's fine. I don't mind that at all. But what irritates me is when I see. Because I know I have the biggest apartment in the building.

And I know that I don't have room for. Like I don't have the room for like a blue, like a blue healer. Right. And it's like you see muffins with dogs. Like that was like, yo, you that dog needs to be running miles every day.

Why you got that big ass dog? Oh, yeah, I see it. I saw them. I saw a cane corso. That's crazy.

It's like you got a cane corso. And a, you know, in a, in a 1300 square foot apartment. That's crazy. That's crazy. And I don't, and his everything.

I don't see that muffuck every day. So you, you skipping days. This muffuck needs to hurt things or order. It needs to have exercise. It's like having a, an MMA fighter living in your house.

Like you better take him to the fucking gym. Oh, yeah. Because people love the floor off steam. When people find out that I have a cat day. I was like, oh, so your apartment smells like a cat.

No.

“But you know, you know, who's places always smell bad?”

As people that have a dog that's too fucking big to be in the place. Yeah. Yeah. There's also they probably can't wash it right. Like what are you going to do?

Do you get in the shower with it? I used to get in the shower with my dogs. I bring Marshall to a groomer. But my, my dog, Johnny. He's the love to get in the shower with me.

Really. Yeah. He was a big master and he loved it. Because he was just massages and love in the shower. I just cover him with shampoo.

And I would talk nice to him. I go, oh, we're good and so clean, buddy. You give me kisses. We're a good girl. You're good and so something about seeing their human with no clothes.

There. I think they lock. Because my cat doesn't. She loves the coming bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked. Or she has a shower running.

She just sit there and watch. It's probably weird to them that you could take your clothes off. I mean, no, I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes at all. Oh, for sure. They're like, what?

Yeah. What are you doing? Why you under the sheets all the time? Yeah. And I don't, I've solved my stance on people that put clothes on me.

Animals, but I'm like, they don't like it. No, I don't. Well, some dogs like.

It's a good idea. It's like 30 degrees. I like the dog likes it.

No, the dog likes that you like it.

I mean, like pleasing you. But they don't want clothes on. They don't. But if you have like a little like like a chowaw. For instance, they get really cold.

Those guys, if you put a little sweater on them, like they feel better outside. It's just because it's warm. But okay. Didn't go all the way there.

With a boot set. It's a little more boots in the summer. Because like New York City, like the street gets so hot. Yeah. Like you think about how hot the street gets.

If it's 98 degrees outside, it was like broken glass. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, you're just walking on hot rocks. Right.

“But also, what are you doing with that big ass dog in New York City?”

That's true. There are no apartments. Who are you? Well, you've got a great day in our head. I mean, I would have to make a choice.

Like if for some reason, I had to move to New York City. I'm not getting rid of my dog. And I'm not leaving my dog here. I can't really get a dog. No chance.

Now, a chance in hell. So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle, a taking that dog out to like central park every day. Doing things to them every day. I would have to make a choice.

I would have to live near the park for sure. Like for me to get rid of my cat. It would have to be. It would have to die. They'd have to die.

Or it would have to be somewhere where like I am absolutely not capable of, you know, like I'm, I can't move. Right. Or something crazy like that. Right, right, right, right. When I try to, when I moved out here from Cali,

like she came fly. Also did you drive across the country? I paid somebody to. Oh, there you go. Oh, that would be a fuck.

“Actually, I didn't have a car at the time,”

but that would be a nightmare. Hmm. This is the most stubborn, like this creature. Like I have a hard time getting her. I've taken her to three groomers. They all been like, "Yeah, come get her."

No. Because she doesn't like to be restrained in any way. Hmm. Yeah, and at the slightest sign that you are thinking about holding her down or putting her in something, she will fight with everything she got.

Is she a ferrocat? No. Well, she might have been. What's she got her? I got her.

The story of the lady told me it doesn't really add up, but basically,

she was a divorce happened. This family had two cats in a dog. And then the wife got the house and started fostering animals. And then my cat's brother, who, so her and her brother were their original cats.

My cat's brother started, basically like, "Join this pack of cats." Because Milly don't socialize at all, but her brother kind of turned on her. Came in thrones. Yeah.

And so, since then, she was just hostile with everybody. All the animals, I mean. And so, when I came to get her, all these animals were in this lady's house, except Milly, she was in a garage. And they had a little post, and she was in a garage.

And when I came to take her, she was so down to go. She was like, "Fuck all in people, fuck my brother." She was like, "She likes you." Oh, yeah, she loves me. She still, to this, she follows me from room to room.

Oh, that's sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she also tends to just choose one person too. She also hates me too, so. She hates you?

I think she hates... It's probably a bad experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's just, she's got some kind of drama that I don't know about. I've got to give her some kitty cat, Ayahuasca.

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“Do you ever put her in cat-nip? You ever give her cat-nip?”

Oh, yeah, sometimes she get high and roll around and get freaky. What is this so weird? It works on every cat. I've never seen a cat where it doesn't work on. I mean, there's shit like that for people.

Oh, yeah. You just give someone-- But I don't know if it gets them high. I don't know what it's doing to them. So then?

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to encourage play and reduce boredom or stress, eating a small amount is usually fine. It may suit the digestive tract, but large amounts can cause short-lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea,

or dizzyness. You can't, it's just fucking a fiend. Oh, should you only suppose to give a pinch? I don't know. That's what it's like down here.

Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of dried or fresh.

How much do you give your cat? Bro. [laughter] [laughter] I fucked her world.

Oh, my God. [laughter] You give her a bad bag. [laughter] You give her a bad bag.

I just let her go at it. You know what's funny, man? My cat is very, like, I let her do what she wants. You know, like, I let her,

she gets, she can go outside. Like, you know, she's not, she's not an outdoor cat, but if she want to go out, I don't open the door.

Because I make, you know, this, I make sure outside is not some mystery place to she, but if she want to go, I'll open the door and let her go,

and then after she get cold or something and smell, run back in the house. Because that way, she's not, like,

just dying to go out there. Right, right, right, right. I'm not worried about her running away. I'm worried about coyotes, man. When you let cats out, man,

coyotes are fucking every day. Target your house. Do you know where the cats are? Do you know the cats that get let out? Yeah, but it's like,

nothing comes near my builder, because it just smells like, it smells like $50 there. Yeah, but they eat dogs too. Really?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. My daughter's puppy guy eating by a coyote in California. I was training and he left the puppy outside and got eaten by coyotes.

Bravinson, you know, coyotes. Oh, I see him. Oh, also, but here's the other thing too. My girl is, you know, she, she takes zero chances.

The slightest side of danger. She's already down. No, she got 50 spots to hide and run. Okay.

Like, she's never gotten into with it with anything.

The thing about coyotes is, they're having their predators, right? And cats are predators too, but pets are different than wild animals. Yeah.

They're very different. She'll bring her fucking mouse in the house. Yeah. I mean, they kill stuff. They, they kill stuff for fun.

But there's a difference between that and needing to eat. And needing to, like, eat cats in order to survive, which is what coyotes do. So, coyotes know where the cats are. They know what, this smell when cats are peeing outside.

So, they know a cat lives in the house. And then the cat pees outside. They just hover nearby and wait. Because they know, it's a matter of time for the cats to go outside. You know what's funny?

When I've seen the coyotes, the whole town lives in the house. They'll hide. Three years now? They hide. No, I saw them all the time in LA though.

You'll see them. They exist. You know what it is?

“I think it's that the ones out here aren't starving like the ones in LA were.”

Right. So, they get bolder and bolder if they hungry it they get. Well, the thing about Austin, as opposed to LA, is there's a lot of animals. And there's a lot of moisture, right?

So, if you're outside of greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time out where I live. Because there's a lot of animals where I live. I see like foxes almost every day. I see armadillos a couple times a week.

I see deer every day.

I always see the, especially when I come home, I see foxes running across the road.

There's all kinds of animals. So, all kinds of things that coyotes eat. A lot of rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes eat. And so, they don't have to come into the city. Whereas in LA, you've got LA and then everything around LA

is just barren. You know, it's all dry and fucked up. And you might find a rabbit. But it's ways that it eats someone's cat. And I think that every person doesn't realize how many coyotes are around them.

Every major city, they're like, they're like raccoons. They're in every city, everywhere. There's a great book on it called coyote America. Oh. Yeah, it's really good.

And it's all about how coyotes, what happens is when they yell out, they're doing like a roll call. And when they're doing a roll call, they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there.

And when one of them's missing, the female coyotes assumed that that coyote is dead. And so, their body responds by making a larger litter. What? Yeah, so they don't have more babies if someone's missing.

Damn, death makes them horny. Well, it makes them have more children.

They always have children. They're always horny, right?

But they instead of having three pups, they'll have six. And they spread out. Because they were persecuted by gray wolves. Like, that's the whole deal.

And being gray wolves and red, so coyotes and red wolves mate with each other.

“That's why you get what they call a coy wolf.”

But it really is coyote as a wolf. It's a type of wolf. But they're not related to the gray wolves. And gray wolves and coyotes don't mate. So gray wolves, the ones that have them like Colorado.

And, you know, like Montana, those wolves just eat coyotes. They just kill them. Like, they don't fuck around. So there's no chance of becoming allies. So those coyotes learned a long time ago

when they start getting killed by wolves just spread out. Just get the fuck out of there. Keep moving. That's why they're in 50 states. They're in every city in the country now. And if there wasn't the case when I was a kid,

when I was a kid, like, I grew up in Massachusetts. And my high school years, there was no fucking coyotes.

Nobody, I never even heard of anybody seeing a coyote.

I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994. And I remember in LA, they had those oakwood garden apartments. It's like furnished apartments that they had in LA. And I was driving to it.

It was like, my first move there. I didn't have an apartment yet. When I first moved there, I was like, those fucking dogs, so these dogs, and like, oh, shit. Those are coyotes.

I remember pulling the car over, looking at him like, this is weird. These weird little wolves just wandering around the city.

“Like, that's how you know you see in the coyote.”

Is that a dog? Well, that was the first time. And that was in 94. But by the time, you know, we left in 2020. Fucking, they were everywhere.

I mean, everywhere. They expanded. And now they're in New York City. They find them in the middle of the fucking park. They find them in the Bronx.

They're in abandoned buildings. They're all over the place. They're in Chicago. I was in the whole country. When I was in LA, one of the neighborhoods I lived in.

I was like, I was in the neighborhood Facebook group. And it was the dude in there. His name was coyote. The guy's name was coyote. He just wanted everybody to know that he loved coyotes so much.

And he would literally, he would defend coyotes no matter what the fuck they did. Like, somebody would be in the Facebook group. Hey, coyote fucking ate my dog right out of my hands. Watch out. And this guy would be like, if anybody here homes in the coyote,

they have to answer to me. Fuck your dog. Oh, yeah.

“I think his name was like coyote Jones or something like that.”

He was serious. He was real serious. He was really in the coyotes. He was, you know, everybody got that thing. Wow.

They're an interesting animal, man. That's, it's really interesting in that. That book, it was, it's all about, you know, who's, um, I just saw something about how a racoon's on the next animal that it, that's being, uh, you know,

tamed or domesticated or whatever. Oh, I believe that the ones, the ones in the city are starting to have, like, shorter snouts and, oh, whoa. Yeah, they're starting to look more like how wolves became bitch ass wolves when they came around the fire.

Yes, they're basically they're starting to get cuter. Like one dog. The ones closer to us are getting cuter because they know it. It gets them treated better. One.

The cuter ones have one more baby. The same thing. Wow. I know, and that's crazy. Because I've read some way that we haven't actually

domesticated cats or not.

That makes me domesticated isn't the word, but never got

them to the point where we did it with dogs. But racoons are getting there. That's so interesting because, but it makes sense. Like, did you ever heard about that rush and study they did with foxes? Exactly.

You can domesticate a fox. Oh, no. I don't know. You can do that. That's really quick.

So you start out with foxes and any fox that shows any aggressive, you start out with a bunch of foxes. Any fox that shows any aggression to a person you kill it on the spot. The bang, dead fuck you. Get all the ones that survive or ones that have no aggression towards

people. And then slowly their snouts get shorter and their ears start to flop. And over the course of like 10 years, you got to totally different animal. See if you can find that. People do that.

Well, they did do that with this one study. But it was just to show how quick things change, like given natural selection.

If you show your teeth, they fucking shoot you in the head.

You know, and I'm sure Russian scientists will be a little bit more hardcore. Oh, Chinese. Here it is. Dimitri Baylov and Lou The Millia Truth. The Russian fox domestication program is a long-term experiment in Novosibiria,

that successfully bred domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox, selecting specific specifically for tameness. After over 60 years and dozens of generations, fox act like domesticated elite pets, displaying dog-like behaviors such as tail wagging, licking and whining for attention.

“So you can buy them, can you buy one of these foxes?”

That's crazy. See if there's a video. Oh, you get one for 9,000 bucks. What? Let's, uh, known for high energy and needing intensive care.

Yeah, you don't want that. And you're fucking 1,300 square foot apartment. We'll mix them and eat though. It is interesting, right? What does that mean?

Does it look very AI? Let's see. It's, who knows nowadays, right? Oh, look, this lays got a fox, isn't it? Oh, wow, they're like little dogs.

That's crazy. Bro. But the thing about foxes are they are, like, playful in the wild. Even wild foxes are playful with people. All this little guy's missing a foot.

No. I don't know if those are wild or the things. These are just different foxes. I don't think these are those foxes. This is just, right?

It's showing the info and then showing a bunch of different foxes.

“But if you remember Grizzly Man, like that movie, the one hers on movie.”

So he was living in the middle of Alaska around these bears. And the foxes would come and hang out with him. And the foxes would, like, hang out in his tent. They would play with them. They stole his hat once and ran away with his hat.

And he was like, chasing them, trying to get his hat back. And the bears don't attack the foxes. But they probably would if they could. But foxes probably can get away. I mean, they probably catch a fox lip in every now and then.

But mostly what they were looking for, they were salmon. They were eating a lot of salmon. And when bears get salmon, that's all they want. Like, there's a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy. And they're on the edge of a river.

And the salmon are running. There's all these bears in there that it's just, like, just gorging on salmon. Which is why those coastal bears are so much bigger. Like, codiac bears, like Alaska. The reason why they're so much bigger is because they have access to salmon.

They have access to fish. And all the other animals through there too. But when they're, when there's a salmon run, that's all they want. They just want to eat salmon.

So you're saying, like, if you give salmon to a bear that's never had salmon before,

it'll just, that's all little one after. No, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't. It's probably delicious. I mean, that's why we like sashimi.

But I think it's the access is so easy. They don't have to chase anything. They just stand in the river. It literally comes to them. They just bite it out of the air.

You see how bears do that? Oh, yeah. And bears are kind of lazy. Like, if they can preserve energy, they will. They just want to get fat for hibernation.

Right? So they just want to eat as much as possible. So the point is, like, when they're like that and they're just eating fish, you don't even have to worry about them. They're not even going to kill you.

So this dude is like sitting there. He's got a little lawn chair. And this fucking giant bear just walks up a side's him and sits down. Like sits down almost like a person. And they're like, hey, get out of here.

Hey, what I mean, it is as close to him as you are to me. And it might be a thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is fucking gigantic. And you see the river behind them. So you see all these bears that just scoop and salmon on the river.

“And what is the bear trying to tell him about doing that?”

Bears on it doesn't give him a fuck. He just comes and sits down. Like, you might be a stick or a person. It doesn't matter. It's eaten salmon.

Sorry, like watch this. Look at this. Look at this. This dude sitting there with his fucking chair. This giant has bear just comes next to him.

Look at the size of that thing. But it's not interested in him at all. It's not like playing coy. It's not pretending. It's not going to kill him.

Like, it doesn't care about him. It doesn't think that he's going to eat it. That's for fuck sure, right? So it's like he's just chilling. Like, that might as well be,

look at that, he sits down like a person. Bro, you know what it is about these motherfuckers. It's how fast it can go from this to terrifying. Yeah, to 45 miles an hour. But look, it's like, hey, you're going out of here.

And then it walks off. It's like, alright, no, you're very in trouble. Just trying to get out.

It's amazing that the thing listens to him.

But they also amazing that he's not freaked out. I guess he's taking a photo. So in that video, you see, there's a ton of bears. So they're just hanging out in that stream.

During those situations, because they know there's so much salmon.

There's enough for everybody.

“So like, if one of them kills a moose, right?”

The other ones will come over and try to steal it from them. Focus, that's my moose. And they'll, they'll, because there's only one food source. But on these rivers, there's just constant fish coming out. So they'll, ah, ah, I just grab them and eat them.

And they're fucking gigantic because of that. We don't know shit about these animals, man. You know, little. You know, I just saw some shit about Florida. So they, they have a serious, uh, uh, snake problem now.

Mm-hmm. Like, uh, I think it's Python's. Yeah, it's Python's. Yeah, it's Python's. And um, how to do it on.

Python cowboy. He gave us a head. Where's that head? You know what that is? Well, yeah.

Well, they, so they, they, if they've been trying to catch. So apparently it came from the 80s and the 90s. It was like a big Python pet boom.

“And those are research centers that got hit by a hurricane.”

Right. That's what I was about to say. Yeah. The hurricane came. They got, they released into the wild.

Now, it's a problem. And they try to ping hunters to get them. And they try to training dogs to find them. And nothing is good enough. But then they made.

They made robot rabbits. See this? Yeah. They made, they made robot rabbits. And they made them.

They made them. They put them in these boxes. And they, they, they generated fake body heat. And, and, and, and the, and the scent of rabbits and everything. And it did attract, it did pull the snakes.

But it pulled everything else too. So we ended up happening. It is.

“The, the snakes only natural predator was these was, was alligators.”

And the alligators was fucking these things up. And the snakes purposely avoid the alligators. So it ended up having the opposite effect. The snakes stayed away. And the alligators were fucking these boxes up.

Oh, wow. And it was almost a complete waste. But then one of the nerds as they were about to shut the whole fucking thing. Now, he noticed in the data that. What they actually found out.

So they plugged it into AI and the AI did this whole fucking map of all the data. Because, because apparently, before every attack, the, those boxes were still like tracking movement and everything was going on. And they found out that the animals have like highways. So it's not that the snakes were in random places.

Is that is that the snakes and the alligators were using these. These highways that only they could smell of like the quickest ways to get through the Everglades and stuff like that. And so they were able. So now they just, they know where they are and they know how they get from one. Part of the, of the swamp to the, to the other.

And they didn't, so we learned something. We still don't know what the fuck to do about the Python. They used to dogs a lot with the dogs find the eggs. Well, they, they've trained these two dogs specifically. But they got to the point where it's like, you know,

you just, it's just so much ground to cover two dogs and going to do it. And it was, because so that's the problem with the Python. I mean, we could wipe them out if we want it. I don't think we can.

Well, the problem is just so big.

What that's my point is we can't, like the cost of doing it. We, we just haven't found a way where we can do it where it doesn't cost. Just a crazy amount of money. But you think about all the money that do spend shit on. Like if they got all the Somali daycare center money back.

You can kill the snakes. Yeah, did you see Ilhan Omar? She was reading off of a script. She's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota from Minneapolis. And she was reading, she's connected, at least accused of being connected to the Somali daycare center.

She's, she's, she's, she's accused of being connected to this fraud. So she's reading off this script. And, you know, how people write World War II. And they use, like, I, I for two. Oh, yeah.

She reads it as World War 11. This is a congressperson. She's a congresswoman. You can find the video, J. It's, it's kind of adorable. It's kind of adorable because I don't think English is her first language already.

At least it doesn't matter. The last time the alien enemies act was invoked. It was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants doing World War 11. Oh, two. Oh, this is called it though.

I didn't know she caught it. I never saw it.

They always cut it off before she caught it.

Well, that's politics. Prodict? Politics is fucking brutal, Mitch Gross. I don't understand why anybody will want to go into it. But you might, how could you say World War 11?

Like, you know, there haven't been, oh, I, but I'm saying other wars you forgot about. But I've said, way, they're going to shit this. So, whatever you ever read, not for written speech.

I would almost be, you know, there's, I do on a daily basis.

“daily basis I do things or say things that I'm like I definitely shouldn't have children, you know, like I'm well I'm well if you did they make fun of you”

I'm too forgetful stupid shit and my kids make fun of me. It's normal. Yeah, my partner being a person to pretend that you don't say stupid shit But the thing is like you and I say stupid shit publicly like we'll say stupid shit podcast oh yeah and sometimes sometimes you pay to pay for it, but I'm talking about stuff that I Would be embarrassed to have said publicly like world war 11. Yeah, like world war 11 Tell me you I do shit like that all the time. I have I have wacky Tony makes fun of me all the time because he's like

You're like a cartoon character. I have that kind of look where it's like sometimes I just have those days, man I wake I woke I wake up this happened like the number one. I was so last Tuesday Right last bottom of the bill. You walk in the green room and I told you I I went to go smell the candle and I didn't know Those yellow yellow candles and it it's a bomb and I wasn't thinking about it And I went to smell the candle and poured the wax on my clothes right before I got to go all state

And I was wearing like light pants, so it looked like I just on my pants as the wax was drying and and

“That's why I went home early that day because I was like”

It was one of the days I woke up in the day started that way I woke up to my CPAP machine crashing on the floor because I rolled over and pulled it off my nice thing And I get up to go to go do with that and I fucking stub my toe and I'm like it's gonna be one of these days It's gonna be one of these fucking days. I'm gonna drop drop a glass in the kitchen You know, so you just said let's call it day. I say that. We are called it go home go right to sleep

Interesting. Yeah, she gave up on the day. No, I still I mean The mother should that night, but I tell you that was good though my set was good, but I took a map I'd not tell the mothership because I didn't have one of those things that I think this edible take a strong Map get to the mothership do my sense of ease almost like it's a new day because you just woke up But no, but did not spill the wax on me. Oh, so my brain was like you don't get to cheat

Interesting the idea of good days and bad days based on just like that's this is what the world has planned for you today This is a bad day you know what it is is if I don't get the sunshine Like I Because I'm a night owl which kind of sucks, but if either I need to stay up for the sunshine because my I got the blackout curtains

But if I if I wake up late in the day and I won't get no sunshine I just I feel dumber. Yeah, definitely I do too. Yeah, yeah, when I if I wake up late Even if I get a good amount of sleep like more than five hours, but if I was up really late at night And then I wake up late. I feel off because your whole system's all scrambled Your system is used to waking up in the morning going to bed at night

But if you stay up late like your brain is working on like 40% capacity sometimes I sometimes I because I get I'm a big gamer Sometimes I get it and I want those people like if I pay sixty dollars for a game We'll set it now it's like eighty dollars, but I'm gonna play the fuck at it like the day it come out I'm playing it all night So you playing online or you playing the game itself both both it depends on the game

What is the games that you like all type of shit like what's the big one right now right now? The game I'm playing the most is called deadlock. It's not it's not available. It's not open available to the public It is no you do you're in developer

“No, you know, but you can get you have to be invited. It's a closed. What were they called a closed beta or play test because play test that's a hardcore”

You are you get invited to beta tests. Oh, yeah, I got I got a bunch of nerdy friends Yeah, actually my little one of my little nerd groups is like it's it's through one of the servers at the most should be all game We're on the same disc or we get on the way. We don't it because it's nice to have a group where's like some new shit come out and we like Yo, this is Deathlock. Oh, yeah, this looks cool this shit cool it in a motherfuck But it's also will make you mad at shit

So it's third person so you're kind of a third person. Yeah, it's third person and you get to pick who you are. Oh, what is that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah

right now. I think there's 34 characters So look, that's all different people There's a lot of information on the screen that just popped up. Oh, yeah, yeah, let's all those Buddy, this is whatever all those things. This is crazy. I'm gonna fuck this up in a bunch of people. Okay. Yeah, so so basically okay so

So basically so see see that bottom that bottom left number the green number 3,000 3. Yeah. Okay, so those are souls which is just money Your money's or souls. Yeah, yeah, and this game just think of souls as dollars. Okay, so she's got $3,000 and basically So wish the thing she just left is the is the lane she was in and

Basically how good how well you're planning game how many kills you get how many minions you're getting

You get more money and the money lets you go buy those items that that's what all those cards are

She's bought the most stuff which makes her stronger. So this game's all about snow is all about getting

Getting the money to get stronger faster so you can win. Oh, okay. Yeah, so and you suck a zip line as she on a zip line here Yeah, yeah, because if you see them see on the right-hand side That's that that's the map. She's gone

“So there's three different there's three different lanes you have to control right and”

That big that big box is like the Man, this is a lot that it's just like legal legends, but on the ground exactly. Okay, I'm glad you put it like that but that doesn't help Joe Okay, so so so so see See the yellow side see the yellow side on the left-hand side of the map. Okay, that first tower is where you start at Oh, and the point is to get stronger get underneath that destroy it then you work down to the second one

That one is a little stronger it defends itself. That's what she's in front of right-hand and then they're on teams Yeah, yeah, it's two teams trying to and you're basically you're trying to work yourself down to their base and kill them I hope kill the one in their base. Oh, wow, so you gang you join up with the team of guys that are playing this online. Yeah, it's six on six

Oh, wow, but then they just but here's the thing

This is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced bra mode Which is or street bra which is basically it knocks it down to four on four it makes it one lane and it gives you random items So you don't have to do any of the complicated shit. You can just get in and get it So you get in run around grab something and beat people over here. Yeah, like the so basically the bra mode is just the condensed version of the game Where you're just fighting you're not you're not to worry about managing anything poor. That looks like you take up a lot of time

Oh, buddy Yeah, cuz cuz here cuz there's a thing this was crazy about shit like that is if you're If somehow you end up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing and everyone's communicating One of those games can be over in twenty five minutes But if you're on a that's probably not gonna happen

So they go anywhere from twenty five minutes and not to two an hour. I've seen games going out Hmm. Yeah, so it's like but most of if a game is going that long. It's just because it's either because people are playing with you Because there's one of those things were like if you get but if you get behind to a certain point You can't come back. That's the whole point of the game. Oh, really. Yeah, it's the whole point is a snowball It's like I'm so much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do. It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you

Okay, it's because they've collected the most stuff because they just had they had they've had the most money for the longest Uh, and they can just keep buying better and better shifting you and there's nothing you can do about it But my point is use the point is for you to get to a certain point and just end the game But some people don't know when that is, you know Here's the quick three sentence overview of what the game is

Futuristic urban fantasy New York

“Your god's part of an occult ritual trying to destroy each other. Yeah, so I think so the back story is an event happened called the mouse drum”

that Yeah, yeah, no, this is the backstory. It opened up a portal that let magic and magic into the world and all of these people got all these abilities and powers and stuff like that And and there's two opposing gods and some other dimension and they want you to summon them So they can cross over into this realm and and so they're So the team you're on is whichever god you're working for right and if you when you win the game

That's supposed to be you completing the ritual and if you help complete the ritual you get a wish And so when you go to each character it tells you that backstory and what they want what wish they want when they get there Oh, okay, yeah, and some people don't want nothing. They just want to fuck people up and how long you're playing this game It's been probably

I don't know a year and a half so it seems super complicated and like it would Dedicate it's a real mouth. I think it's very complex you because you don't

You don't even know what the fuck you're doing for like the first 200 hours

Like it takes about 200 hours before you like oh, I kind of kind of get what's going on

“This is the kind of things that people without kids. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying”

Yeah, that's just I can't I'm not I'm definitely I'm definitely a 43-year-old child But I don't live like an adult. Yeah, no, I live like almost like a fret like a fret boy or something Well, if you can pull it off Those are when you ask people Because some of the happiest times their life, but they were young and free, but especially people it don't like what they do

Right people get a job. They don't like it and then they have responsibilities and they can't leave their job Well people to get a wife and don't like her that happens a lot. That happens too much Well, that happens too And a husband you don't like to both both. Oh, yes, that's probably worse that happened well both of them are bad But it happens a lot a lot of people

That's like that seems like how you should be playing a game like this. Yeah, a dark room. Let's talk

Yeah, I mean, but the thing is that I don't think that shit is very comfortable. How dare you that chair goes upside down You're laying down brother Versions of it. You can make you could cost a lot. Oh, how much six grand? So wait a minute. This is zero gravity. Watch it hit the different images

“Look at like that Brian. Oh, that's crazy. That's what I'm talking about. That's pretty well. What else does it do? Does it massage sucks your dick?”

I mean, 10 gram outcomes out just sucks your dick Yeah, I'll take that can you piss and that's what used to be 10 grads on say they have the one that's also like the bet I've been in the bed version the what but this one one's like this one does go backwards, right? Show show a version of it where it's completely reclining. That's what I was trying to you got there don't you Jamie now

But I just want say oh, it's a scorpion. Let me show you something else on so that's pretty wicked

And so you get a just that and you can make the screen right in front of your face Yeah, but I'm about to skip four heart treatments and get that chair Oh Oh That was pretty cool to see that I actually prefer what we're looking at here

This do you well you prefer that to the the one that you live down because I don't I don't use a control only the only games I use a control the win is man, so you're a mouse and keyboard guy. Yeah, I'm almost exclusive

“That's why a little futon built on I never play. I never figured out how to use those like that food time listen if you're gonna”

Who's choosing the food time if you got the money for a good game and PC you bet not no food time? Well, that's he just went all in on the gaming PC. Yeah, I mean no choice No chance of pussy, my shit's got kind of it's gotten kind of crazy recently. Yeah, oh, yeah Make sure are there any other ones that do it with a even bigger screen like that that kind of a deal like what is the ultimate set up for like somebody like a Bill Gates

There's a new Like F1 rig we have yeah, there's a new screen that's come out. That's like a 100 and that's six even. I don't know so that that's my shit right there. Oh You got a dual monitor set up curved monitors who a dope super ultra white. That's a problem. Yeah

It's a problem. That's a problem. Man, I'm gonna send this to me. Send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie. Oh, do you have Jamie's number? Yeah, I don't think I can send it to Jamie because that image is crazy. We need to show people that image That's a problem. If I had that that'd be a real problem. Oh, Jamie don't I got your number going on? I Do my best writing like when I get the most done on my laptop because I don't ever look at anything else on that laptop

The only time I use the internet at all is to check things to like find out if something's real And even that I don't use anymore because I use proplexity for that now. I just talk into the phone But when if you have that much distraction

Like two monitors like that, I'm not I would never leave. I would just be playing games all it's too fun. It's it's too much too much

Sometimes it is it is and It's a very fucking problem man games are a problem. They're so good. You know to be as man is it's it's a it's a dopamine drip Look at that look at that set up Bro, what's that thing on the right? Um, that is for Controlled in the sound so so so basically like so say I'm in the I'm in the chat. I'm in the discord chat and

And and I got a YouTube video plan and I'm in the middle of a game right, right? then I don't I can I can reach over and turn down the value of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly Return up the music and without having to open up anything on my that's crazy. You are an addict Jame you don't have that dude. I was gonna show you mine

I have a song. I have a soundboard play that are connected in the mind so I can fuck people

“Can you blur that top thing because that's what I was got people's name. Yeah, yeah”

Yeah, but like I can record sound like live sound when someone's chatting and I can record their voice and Wow, like instantly. Yeah, this is me not streaming. I'm gonna start streaming this summer So I'm gonna have to add a couple of things so you're gonna start playing video games and streaming it Yeah, you can make a lot of money. It's easy money to it's crazy because you're already gonna play game I know some I know some people just like they don't go on the road because they make so much money doing this

But you can always do that. Yeah, but you might not have an audience anymore. Yeah, that audience. Oh, that's true

Yeah, they'll be still so you have a team pain. Oh, yeah, yeah T pains he's one but like he don't he's like, yo, you've got to you got to offer me a lot of money because he still goes in the road But it's like you got to pay him because he makes something. He's like why would I leave? Well, I take less money to leave my own streams. He screams. Yeah. He's set up He's got as fucking crazy. It's insane. Yeah, he's like we have one F one set up

I think he bought six He's got us his whole studios in one room. He's got the racing room over here. He's got I think the prior four different rooms in different things so he'll game or he'll have one guess or he'll just make a he'll just make a song live in front of you It's just like normal live set up. He's got He's got oh my god set up. He's got physical multiple screens around there. Oh, that's crazy. So he has a whole room dedicated. Oh, yeah

Oh my god, it's all wired together, too. Don't so when he's streaming. How is he making money?

“Sponsors I think he he's definitely a twitch partner of some kind. Okay, so you you get sponsors and like how much do you think he's making?”

Fuck, I couldn't I don't even I mean if I had to speculate. Yeah, speculate. I would say he's probably make pulling in at least A quarter million a month or something like that probably more than that just playing video games. Just just streaming. He only had the play video games Sometimes he just talking. That's crazy. Just well. There's a lot of that right a lot of streamers You know that there's a lot of political streamers. There's different people that do different things There's in there's I they call him I are real streamers. There's new cent streamers. Would they do since?

Yeah, they just walk around with people. Yeah, fuck. Oh, he will. He says The computer I play on is right here. He's there down here. Whoa This is the workshop. It was just a utility room, but I'm like why not put 3D printers in there. This is 3D printers You can see I'll take a lot of inspiration from trying That's amazing. It was what he's he's married though

Yeah, but he's making money. Oh This is what I've got to complain you want to go shopping listen lady This is how we make the money for you to go shopping. You're right. You're right. You're right

“You know, I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually earn money at”

You know, my wife used to complain about the podcast for starting making money. Really? What she was like you don't have to do that. I was like I do I have to do it I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at X amount of whatever whatever time it was

You but that's just always how long until you will like

If I can just make a money. Oh, it took years. I didn't even try I never tried to make any money with it I always did it for free. I did it for fun. How many years? I didn't make money for years. Oh, wow Zero money for years. I never even thought of it making money. It was just for fun I would just have everybody come over. It looks a girl would come over. Eddie Bravo would come over Joe would come over

Dunkin. We would just talk shit and just have laughs. It was just for fun We enjoyed the shit out of it. We had a vaporizer this giant bag You know yeah, the volcano oh my god the thing was horrendous. I remember when the things first came out They fucked a lot of people's world a lot of beef fucked our world up. There's a lot of podcasts in the early days that are unlisted in the bull or watchable because we're just obliterated

And I thought it could never get past that and now they got

“You know, didn't they then people came up with the dabs bro jelly roll has this machine?”

It looks like a robot. It looks like a little like a little Pokemon robot. Yeah, is it that cuz Frank has to have a machine Frank Steele is one of the he's like sponsored by those people. That's all things are crazy. It's called peak the peak people You know what I don't know if it's a peak. It looks like a device It scared me just looking to pick up the peak pro. It's big like this. Like this French press And every time I see Frank, they've come out with a new one. They have one that they have one that's like a surlock home's pipe

It's all electronic it's all for dabs But every time every time he visits me, he's like a bro check this shit out people. I can't believe this reason why weed still isn't legal Well, actually, I just raised some of the data Trump is Trump is making it's scheduled three now. Yeah. Oh, he oh, it's done. It's done. We yeah We need a schedule three So scheduled through first of all. It should be right without call if you're 21 leave me the fuck alone

What is it? What is it? What's scheduled is alcohol alcohol is not scheduled. It's not a prohibitive substance I don't think alcohol schedule like the alcohol for 21 and older is totally legal So scheduled one which is where weed was, which is so crazy. It's like the most dangerous. No medicinal benefit harm addiction Now I won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand it the way other people understand it I think it's highly genetic. I think addiction's very genetic because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive

nicotine patches and I started taking ultra patches

Do you know if these are pouches rather they're it's like nitropics. It's like vitamins like brain vitamins and nicotine in there no no no nicotine

“And when I started doing it I was like, okay, I wonder if I'm gonna like I've been doing if you want to try one here”

That one's empty. I Just bought these over Amazon, but I was like I've done it before when I went on vacation like I didn't have them at all and I didn't have any withdraws But then I talked to Macan and Macan said that when he got off of them. It was like two weeks where he's like fucking super tans And people no no no no nicotine pouches or cigarettes. He got off of all of it

And then I hear but so my point is I think it's a biological thing

I don't think I have the biol I get addicted to stuff. I get addicted to doing things

I got I used to be addicted to video games I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing I get addicted to pull I get addicted to martial arts. I get addicted to doing stuff. I get addicted to archery But I don't think I get a I probably would if it was like oxies or something like that I get I think that's just strong. That would just get I think I'm too much of a control freak to get addicted

And you kind of hard well you quit cigarettes like that. Yeah, but you know what you know I was easy is because I had a heart Yeah, but the heart of tech did it for you. It did and I already felt like shit So I didn't go I didn't the whiff draws with nothing. I'm going to send you something Jamie this is kind of crazy, but I sent this to Tom Segura

So it's Tom start smoking again because this is guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet That there's some sort of an actual benefit to cigarettes smoking because one of the things about these blue zones or people like live forever A lot of these people that are like living that are really old. They smoke cigarettes

“Yeah, that's what show me to fuck out like you know every time they every time they go. This is the oldest person alive”

They are hundred and nine right and then they ask them to go. What's your secret? smoke I drink power water and so listen to this and smoking is good for them. Top heart surgeons claim is Breaking the internet clips exploding after cardio thoracic surgeon Dr. Steven Gundry made a claim That's turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down Is argument is smoking specifically nicotine can have real benefits when paired with the right lifestyle and one point

Even says about a patient Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well points to long-living populations where heavy smoking is common

claims to the part of Sardinia 95% of men's woke and live longer than the women says nicotine acts as a powerful

mitochondrial up un-coupler argues that the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet and suggest that we've been looking at it completely backwards According to him the real question isn't why smoking harms people. It's why some smokers live longer and what we're missing So this is a video in here listen to him talk about it because it's Yeah, we just play a little bit of it because it's kind of interesting

Credit to Dr. Mike on YouTube Been smoking for 45 years and they're living a healthy life and they say it's cuz I smoke and obviously we laugh about it Because we all agree that it's not true

“So why did this one case move you so actually let me stop you right there?”

Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well Okay, we need to back up. How do we get there? Well, I have a whole chapter in gut check Looking at the healthiest longest living people in one of the unique features of most of the blue zones is that particularly the men are heavy smokers And the smoking actually the nicotine in cigarettes is one of the best mitochondrial un-couplers

It's ever been discovered and we've looked at this for the long long lens. We said wow What other healthy lifestyle things are these guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them In fact, we should have looked at it the other way. What is it about these people who are smokers that Lows and the live to 110 years old and when you do that then you say okay smoking was good for them Why don't we see the oxidators stress that smoking?

We all know occurs why don't we see the cancers in these people and it's because the rest of their diet Facilitates the absorption of the oxidators stress in these guys so your state is that If you smoke, but eat in this specific way you can negate the effects of smoking the negative effects of smoke Yeah, what's fascinating as a heart surgeon way back in the good old days most of our patients were smokers And they had specific

Proximal lesions in their coronary arteries the rest of their blood vessels were absolutely gorgeous

You operate on what other vessels that you saw like you do peripheral arterial disease

Screenings on those patients and you would find are used to operate on because one of the number one risk factors for peripheral Trial disease is smoking Correct because the smoking the oxidator stress is Isn't stopped by our current diet? Let me give you an example, okay? We're one of the few animals that don't make it vitamin C and vitamin C

And I've written about this so We get it. I mean he said people the doctor mice YouTube channel for the rest of it, but Dr. Mike wasn't having it. Well, he didn't know. I mean this guy's the expert and this guy lays it And Dr. Mike's open mind did he's probably

What he's saying he's making sense it makes sense to me. It's for the poor diet

“Yeah, that's that's why I was I was hoping that video would give me hope, but I'm like”

Bro, I could if I could change my diet. I wouldn't have the heart attack You know, I was I'm gonna have I'm gonna get this perfect diet so I can smoke I don't think it's a perfect diet. I think he just got to move to Italy But whenever I whenever I go there on vacation I'm like, why am I trying so hard? What am I doing how come I'm not just for chillin? Well, you know that that's the thing about Italy

They have a they have a culture of chillin. Yeah, yeah culture I figured what they call it, but is it C yester? No, that's Mexicans They call it like that nap they take during the middle of the day. Yeah, that's only no no

It's this Spanish thing too. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but they I didn't know they didn't

Well obviously it's Spanish word. Oh, yeah, I didn't know they did a Mexico, but yeah it's a Mexican thing the Spanish are like nah middle of the afternoon everybody nap it. Yeah, my friend went to the Ferrari factory in Italy And he said dude, it's hilarious. He goes they barely work. He goes they like the reason why it takes so long to get a Ferrari He goes like these motherfuckers are just chillin Because they take these big long. Oh, it's Lamborghini. Yeah, he said they take these big long

breaks for lunch. They passed done they drink wine and they lay down They take a couple hours for lunch and they work a few more hours and they go home. They got to figure it out Well, I think we work too much, you know, and this is coming from someone who works too much But I work too much at things I love It's a different thing. I think then most people most people are working too much

It's something that's just making a money and they're probably stressed out all the time don't enjoy it But I think if you are working less and just having more enjoyment in life

“What are we here for? See, that's why I'm that I think subconsciously that's why I've been avoiding streaming”

I've been talking about it for years because I'm like if I start making money Right dream, then it becomes a job bro. I'm gonna be like that. You don't have fat kid in the chair in Wally. You have to see that movie. Yeah That I'm a transforming in that Just ovary. Yeah, if I just thought we could breathe Millions of dollars is eating and laying down everybody while they're doing a good boy and no exercise at all. Oh, yeah

Well, the more you stream the more you make, right? So this people that stream more than eight hours a day on them I mean theoretically yeah, but some people stream a lot may know make shit You know, yeah, but that's also podcasting. There's a lot of people that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money Yeah, so yeah, but you got a screen to make money. You got to be on yeah, but it's a very specific type of audience too though It's people that are watching streams very different audience than who's watching podcasts. I would imagine

That's hard to say yeah, it's hard to say yeah because I think I don't know of those That there's probably a lot of overlap in those audiences so I don't but we were talking about before with the smoking I don't think smoking is good for your lungs

“I think it's bad for your lungs because everybody know that quit smoking they say their cardio gets better”

This stuff this that interview Are we sure shared came up two years ago? Oh, did it and there was some controversy around it and well Clearly what is a blue zone? Well, right that doctor places where people live longer Okay, so here with it says key details regarding Dr. Gundry statements controversial claims in conversation with Dr. Mike Gundry Suggested smoking could be linked to longer life

Observing that some long lived individuals in blue zone smoke mechanism theory Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncompler and that a high polyphenol diet May mitigate the negative effects of cigarette smoke criticism Experts strongly disagree noting that smoke is a leading cause of premature death that any potential benefits are far outweighed by Risks right but they're not taking any consideration what he said about food

Despite the headlines gunley stated he does not smoke and does not encourage others to do so So he's just a scientist Relaying research. Yes, so what are the critics strongly disagreeing? He said they're not they're not making any sense because they're disagreeing But they're not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high polyphenol diet

This is what I think in my years of trying and using nicotine

“I think there's something to nicotine the reason why I am backing off of it is it fucks up my pool gain”

Really, yeah, nicotine gives you a lot of energy and I think like these like these Alps these are like six milligrams and then there's luces. I have luces that are 12 But you put them in your mouth like you're sucking on a battery. It's like It's so strong. It's ridiculous. They make a jittery and jittery is not good for pool Pooze a chill game pool is like you're concentrating, but you want to be

Completely calm when you're stroking the ball like your hand you're barely holding on that cue I hold on the cue like I'm holding a baby bird

You know, it's very calm you don't want to be like you don't so caught a lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool

Yeah, but nicotine in particular, but which is interesting because I know a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of like how to fix your body Then oh, it's the answer good question How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus like one of these Alp palches these Alp palches is

Tucker Carlson's company. It's probably also has to do it like your level of addiction like some people are Fully yeah, they some people smoke all the things cigarettes just to be back to zero John Melanchand people's in here That dude just that was like one of the big things like can I smoke during the podcast my absolutely no worries I go we got a fan we smoked cigars all the time so he just changed smoke the entire podcast and he said find what you love and let it kill you

“That's what he said about cigarettes organ. Yeah. That's a”

Who's that? Who's that quote? I don't know a typical nicotine amounts. Okay Standard factory made cigarette usually contains about 10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine and tobacco which an average smoke Orbs around one to two milligrams on smoking it nicotine pouches are sold in strength that commonly range from two milligrams up to 12 or more of nicotine propouts CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine pouches that with six milligrams nicotine or less were most common

but higher strength eight milligrams pouches have been growing quickly. Yeah, because people are getting addicted cigarettes deliver nicotine the brain very fast within 10 to 20 seconds after in inhalation Which makes them high a highly reinforcing and strongly addictive pouches release nicotine through the lining of the mouth So the rise and blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with a cigarette hit though total absorbed dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength

or how long the pouches use but think about like pouches people just keep popping them like Shane that dude just pops them every 10 minutes He's popping six milligrams like every 10 minutes combustible cigarettes clearly more harmful overall Because smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals many toxic and carcinogenic Whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an addictive drug with cardiovascular effects

“That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers”

Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was the most addictive version of that that I tried was vaping Those like Escobar things those those are weird. Here's another weird thing about those vaping ones

The only good hit is the first hit

Maybe the second have you seen how vapors act when they can't find a vapour. Oh, they freak out The it is they get sketchy. It's crazy. They get crazy. I saw I was in DC last year and I popped in on this comedy spot And I go and I go to the bathroom and there's a vape sitting on the sink like somebody put a vape there to watch their hands or something

And I go out to the bar And I remember all the I bought the I bought the comics the like the comics are at the bar waiting to go up and I bought around for the comics And one of them was like oh thanks man got up went to the bathroom came back sat next to his friend was like oh bro, I found his vaping in and they both hit this vape So they went he took a vape out the bathroom That's somebody else was just sucking on some guy who could have been eating ass just 20 minutes right also it was on the sink in the back

Men's room at a comedy club That's crazy. I found it. Let's take hits off of it. Yeah, it's crazy. It would be tough if that was my vape And I said it on the camera right that's probably what happens when I said it there out of reflexes and it was like I don't want that shit It's been it's right here with all this filthy Maybe or maybe they're like I got to leave this thing. Oh, yeah, this man

sink water Now you can keep that You can keep this these guys are just sucking on at the bar, but I guess if you're dipping in whiskey to be right I don't dip it in your glass before you take it. But well, you could just wait till you can just wait till you get to your vaping

the first hit of a like a eskabar you like this like oh

Yeah, everything's amazing

But that you don't get that with a second hit. It doesn't like maintain after while you're just taking hits and you just feel nervous Like this is terrible. This doesn't feel good, but it's the first hit the first hits wonderful You know many people's I've had to curse out because they unplug my phone The plug and the stupid fucking main they're like yo, what yo? You was at 30 percent What the fuck it's wrong with you? I need it all day right don't upload my shanky

They really are kids. Oh, they're junkies. I see people hit them all the time and they they hit them like a

“Fiend and and the way and you know the worst thing is the people that they try to start vaping”

It's like to replace smoking

Did he end up doing both? Well, I think the vaping is more addicted than smoking. Oh, yeah because you can you know why it's cuz one like you said

I think the you're getting delivered more nicotine than than a smoker will get even though the smoking has other bad shit that you're putting in you You know, but in terms of addiction is what I'm saying. I'm not saying vaping is worse for you, but But you're getting more nicotine and you can you can vape in places you can smoke and on top of that

You're getting all these weird oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good for you But you can vape anytime, right? You can vape you can but you know people are getting these new diseases like popcorn lung Have you heard of that? I heard of that, but I ain't hearing nobody they got it. I've heard like you know It's one of those like What do you call them urban myths or there's a kid that I knew back in California. He was one of

One of the people in our neighborhood's child and he was 19 and he was in college and he was vaping like crazy He was vaping all day long and he got pneumonia one-up dying and they connected it to the vape Like he had destroyed his lungs. Yeah kids are damaging their lungs. Do you know

“I think that started back when you remember when some people have like the adjustable ones”

Where like you were like other big ones. Yeah, that's crazy ones because now the property ones are like the disposable ones Adam Curry has one of them big jam. Yeah, one of them big rigs like a bunch bucks. I think people were going crazy back then Like in the beginning of it when when nobody knew a lot the real vapors man. They still go crazy But they're they're doing it themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting like their own like nicotine drops They're putting it in the thing and they're putting their own oil the using like MCT oil because it's healthy

This organic poison. Yeah, where is like if you're getting it from a factory in China or Vietnam Have you ever seen that one this one video of a dude who has to test every vape when it comes out of the factory with his mouth with his mouth with his mouth the ones you get have very been sucked on so this dude is just suck in Vietnam. Just I don't know where he is He might be in the house. He's just sucking just wherever this vape factory is this dude just sucking on this vape over and over and over again

Everybody's vape. He sucks on once to make sure it's good before he sends it out Where we're doomed. So he this guy's got what is his dose of caffeine in a day it must be

“Off actually charts. Yeah, so that's the other thing. I think vapors are more addicted because they get more nicotine”

They just get to do it. They just do it. Yes, you could definitely do it. Oh, but I'm telling you it's like you don't get the good feeling Like it's weird. It's weird like a cigar like that's the relaxation the good nicotine feeling of a cigar You get that like every time you take a hit out of a cigar Need that's not the case with a vape the least to not for me. Look at this dude. He's sucking on everyone of these checking them out. Look that's nuts They got to make sure they're good like how vape doubt is this cat

That's probably how that's probably what he gets paid and just vapes just smoke I mean how many fucking thousands of vapes is this kid sucking on it a day how many do you test in a day? He says Around 7 to 8,000 test per day Jesus Christ. Does that dude sleep at all? He probably dreams in like horrible black and white like lightning bolts and

Also smokes after work. Oh my god So much see how long that guy lives. Yeah, that boy's on to you. Done. Yeah, he's not in the blue zone Popcorn lung yeah, it's it's older. It's it's developed according to this It came around 2,000 when people had a actual popcorn factory. Whoa We're exposed to a chemical that was causing what called broncholitis obliterate well look at this

It's first recognized from clusters of workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter

Flavoring chemical Diacetyl Wow, I thought it made your lungs look like popcorn. This is saying there's like it's very it's super rare for Outside of that actually though Cancer researchers UK states that there have been no confirmed cases of popcorn lungs specifically caused by e-cigarettes

Do you think that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes? No, no, no, I think they invest in an issue

Yeah, but if they don't like would if it's like some companies maybe don't and they're worried that these cheap vapes What does only there's only there's only three companies to big tobacco is really big tobacco so it's our gym rentals will be other ones

“For the Morris or is it feel the Morris and then there's a and then there's a overseas one. Maybe that's four companies who's making the American spirits?”

Is the same people is the same people is there's only three or four big tobacco companies This lady Suzanne Humphrey says the doctor she she was making the argument that Those cigarettes are probably not even that bad for you and they own and they see the writing on a wall like they on all the pet all the Pats companies. Oh, oh, yes, yeah, why wouldn't they because it the writings on the wall They start they they were talking about it in Canada and now

I think they're trying to do it in the UK were basically like people of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes

They yeah, they I think they're doing that in Canada right now or and they're definitely doing that in the UK That's right. No American spirits cigarettes are not safe for than other cigarettes despite marketing the highlights natural and addictive Free tobacco study show they contain similar levels of toxic cancer causing chemicals as other brands Research suggests they may even be more addictive due to higher nicotine levels No reduced harm no evidence of the absence of additives makes cigarettes smoke less harmful

on high nicotine addiction studies have found that many varieties have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands Suggesting higher addictiveness misleading marketing FDA previously required the manufacturers to stop using natural and

Additive free in marketing as these terms falsely implied lower risk why is that implied lower risk if you say additive free

Consumer misconception 64% of American spirit smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful often because of their natural branding This late this doctor was making that argument she was saying the chemicals that they add to cigarettes that make them more addictive like

“Remember that Russell crow movie the insider you remember that movie”

Good movie so but got about a guy who is a true story about a guy who's a doctor who works at A tobacco company that makes cigarettes and he specifically Formulating these chemicals in order to make people way more addicted and then he has to go to court and they try to kill them Big kind of whistleblower type drama, but That was that was the premise of that film which is also based on real life and what she's saying is that those chemicals that make you more addictive

Are probably much more dangerous and that just the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous She wasn't definitively stating this she was just saying that most likely They're probably safer for you. Well the American spirit ones also you smoke less because they take forever to smoke So every time I'm I've a smoking around an American spirit smoke a you know you'll see a damn three quarters of a cigarette Left in the ash tree. Do you think that those?

Like marbros and shit like that like they they smoke quicker on purpose, so that smoke more of them

“I think they they're probably I think they out of something they add to them make them because they because that's thing with American spirit”

You sit it down. It'll it'll go out right but if you if I if I was the light of Marburo and sit it down there It would burn all the way up right. I think they do that so you waste cigarettes. That makes sense. Oh, yeah for sure That makes sense. Yeah, because they probably calculate over time how much money that would be? Yeah, in fact I've I raised some way like that is why there are 20 packs in the cigarette and 20 cigarettes in a pack is because they they discovered That's exactly how many you need it to smoke as much as possible in one day like in terms of how long

It's in your system when you start getting another craving you can smoke well, that's crazy You get some people smoke two packs a day. What yeah, those people are like animals How are they alive? I don't know, but I was getting close. What were you at? I was at a little over like I was at a little over a pack a day when I was smoke I would go through a whole pack and then tip into next time dip into the next Yeah, hmm

It makes sense that they would buy patches why wouldn't they And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives because gum make a rat Years ago to VA try to get me to quit and they they prescribe me the patches. Yeah, but Like like they're like that said it's like there's there's 12 to 14 milligrams in a cigarette But you only end up getting one or two right, but the patch is five to lowest the lowest step of the patch is five

And do you feel it? Yeah, you you have crazy fucking dreams too You put one of them patches on before you go to bed. You won't you gonna have a fucking crazy dream and now you're more addicted Right because now because you now used to getting five now you getting five all night. You wake up like oh shit

Yeah, what I said that's what I was about to tell you's like everybody I need to got on a patches was patching and smoking

“Yeah, wrong was patching and smoking and then one hypnotism session quit everything cold turkey”

Really yep, that's weird because you don't seem very suggestible. I know Right, yeah, I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind about nothing about nothing Everything all the arguments that he said with Tony in the green room. Oh, the I'm near for that shit The if in those moments there's a hilarious Ron digs his heels in so I won't go went. Well, yeah, all right. Well, that's not my experience

He was wearing the patch and he was smoking those little cigars. You know those little cigars He was smoking them like cigarettes You're the most is not inhale those little suckers like those little suckers have way more nicotine You know those little tiny money crystals those little things. You're supposed to smoke those like a cigar Like when I smoke him I try to smoke him like a cigar. You could take you hold it and you might it's a tiny cigar

You can't tell that he's Texas gentleman

Not to smoke nothing well Ron has got amazing willpower because he come he got off the alcohol and just done never touched again

God off the cigarettes done never touched me again. Yeah, I love that guy He's the best he's the best but it's like that ability to just turn something off like that The amount of money. How much money? Let's look at that how much money is in the nicotine business over all in America? It's probably way more now with pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes. I think it's less now But a bit the cigarette's probably been less but now so many people on the pouches and so many people are vaping

“Well, that's what I think is I think there's I think there's less money overall”

But but that's why there's less companies because they keep getting bought Right because people are smoking like kid the kids a smoke way less cigarettes way less cigarettes and they they don't vapes as much as we think but I think they're a lot of them are on the Zins a lot of them are on pouches Let's guess what do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine nicotine products in America?

The collective amount of money that nicotine products in America generated over here. Let me say 10 billion

Yeah, that sounds about right That's what it's less than 10 billion for the whole country. I'll say sex Let's say 6 billion because there's 350 million people plus max kids. That's just for the oral nicotine There's how much six whoa cigarettes is

way higher. What is cigarettes? 76 7 billion billion. Oh shit, that's more than sports That's crazy And traditional tobacco which putting like cigars cigars and uh like um

“Which isn't stuff but okay, but what what was it 20 years ago?”

Was the higher it was a higher one years ago from what I looked but it has it has a ground It's growing slowly every year It's a total of a hundred billion when you include everything together. That's great Well, I mean, but it isn't really crazy because it's one of the it's one of the legal and socially acceptable Drogs to be on all that yeah, you can smoke it because you can't even drink it work

Especially if you use pouches now everybody's using pouch of predicting the pouches are going to go from around 4 to 6 billion now and by 2030 It's only five to six years from now could get up to 50 billion

Well, here's the thing they have

Neutropic benefits like they do enhance your cognitive performance nicotine does And um, there's a lot of people that swear by them like for creativity and stuff like one of the things that Steven King talked about in that book on writing Was that one of his biggest Bumps in the row with his writing careers when he quits smoking Is that a really hard time like getting his synapses to fire the same way so it was really noticeable the difference in quick quitting nicotine

But then again his best shady wrote when he was on coke He was doing coke and drink it beer. Yeah, and he wrote his best crazy a shit when he was doing that No, but I'm I'm gonna be honest about that though like I Do feel less creative

Or less or less not create not less creative but less I Don't know it does feel like it feels like my brain where it's working different what about cigars you ever thought about cigars Or you just like think it's too much of a gateway Yeah, I will be right back on it

Right back on it. Maybe we can can we get some kind of a nicotine drops Jamie you can just Shoot it into your fucking eyeballs. You fuck with the pouches at all. Are you worried that the pouches are bringing closer to the cigarettes?

I'm not trying. Oh, this doesn't have nicotine. That's an ultra pouch

Don't do it Maybe the gum. Maybe I'll try the gum. Yeah, I've tried the gum. I like pouches. How is that? I like pouches better It's interesting that like

“They would probably I want to how much money is spent how okay, what is the patch?”

What's the patch worth like how much does that generate? You know as well They were trying to give me nicotine in the hospital for what? Because they because they knew I was a smoker and they were like you don't you don't want any? I was like no How are they trying to give it to you and what way? I don't know if it was a pouch or gum But they've met but it had been prescribed to me and it was just sitting there and and they and

You know every time a shift change somebody where I'm hey, so you know you got some you know You know you got some just the rails like I'm okay They took um I suddenly sent me some nicotinements and they made me nervous like I didn't like them They made me feel uncomfortable

Okay, nicotine patches are tiny slice the nicotine economy the US they amount to most of few hundred million dollars per year

Versus tens of billions for cigarettes and other nicotine products you have it You know what the reason they the reason they still invest in them is because Every time you try to quit and you use the pouches when you come back you're more addicted Right, that's right. So it's just as a cycle. Yeah, it's insurance Yeah, you'll get back on the cigarettes. Yeah, because they're I bet you they're not they probably don't track how many people

What's a fun agenda? nicotine replacement Therapy therapy the global nicotine replacement therapy market patches gum laws and just et cetera is around 3.1 billion Therapy just reading that in this room. I know it's like a silly Career conspiracy or something like a predicted to reach 4.7 billion US dollars by 2034 But it makes sense that they would invest in that like it's a you know

Why wouldn't they it's like if they're smart business people you know Yeah Did you hear about that special forces soldier that got in trouble because he bet on polymarket that Maduro was going to be

“Kidnapped or they found out who it was. Yeah, they caught the dude. Oh, no. Yeah, he made for I believe he made”

$400,000 and he tried to cover his tracks but I thought it was like Trump soon I was on people thought it was that it was that it was John Jr Well, who knows what they've done Oh, yeah, I mean they're probably not looking at them the same way they're looking at these special forces Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table. He like I need all his bread. I want to weigh out. I still need this bread. Yeah, I mean think about that

The coin the Trump coin. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's illegal But it's crazy Melania coin like if you if you if you buy him any celebrity's coins You deserve delusium money Hmm But I think it what met Metzger explained to me he goes these are gambling addicts they're gambling

He goes they know they know that it's gonna crash no one's under any illusion This is gonna last forever. They try to get in and get out and make money while they're doing it It's like they just figure out when to buy and when to sell Yeah, but there are people that think that you know those are those are the suckers Those are who you're getting money from. It's the ones that think it you could look at it that way

Or you could look at it is this is an effective way to pay people off

“Legally so here's the thing. I'm not accusing anybody doing this, but I'm saying let's say if I started to JRE coin”

And Maybe some Middle Eastern government decided they were gonna invest

five hundred million dollars in a JRE coin and then I announced the JRE coin

They put in the money to back this JRE coin. I get a substantial stake in the JRE coin So I get a bunch of JRE coins and then I just dump all my JRE coins and then it go I get all that money and then it goes for being worth Ex amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing is that the pump and none that's the pump and down Yeah, so that'd be a way I pay you so like say maybe if you and I had some sort of a deal

That was a little shady and I said Brian how about this? I can't pay you outright But what I can do is why don't you start a crypto coin and I will invest in your crypto coin Which is a very legal venture and I will put in a hundred million dollars into your crypto coin and so now your crypto coin a bunch of people will also throw money in Because there's a hundred million dollars in it and they know that's gonna pump a dump. It's gonna happen

Like the real clever fuckers and then you just get out So you get out as soon as it hits the peak like you get it set up so that like Maybe peaks in 24 hours or whatever the fuck it is like Let's like let's like let's and again, we're not accusing anybody of anything but it let's look at nor are we taking notes Let's look at Trump coin how much was Trump coin worth like right after it came out versus five days later

So somewhere that money has to go somewhere And so if I invested in Brian Simpson coin and then that money It got to the coin is worth I don't know what what a coin's worth. I don't know what it's worth

a big pile of money millions of millions of dollars and everybody else is like The people that like were dummies they don't get anything and then me I didn't expect to get any money I'm just trying to bribe you. I'm trying to pay you off. What do you think is that a man makes sense? Oh, yeah The thing is America is like three quarters scams You lost scams and some people sit around complaining about the scams instead of getting in on them

You hear what Dr. O's said? Well Dr. O's works for the the government now They California has a big hostile scam going on. You know how like manyapolis in Minnesota had the daycare scam California has a bunch of fake hostels

“Where they're taking care of people. That's what it is, right?”

So they they shut funding down to 400 of them not one of them complained It is like well say yeah, and so it's his assertion that that's because they were all scams So that Nick surely guy the same dot guy that investigated the fraud in Minneapolis He's investigated some of the fraud in California and one of the things that they found at some of his videos It's like a lot of these businesses register to like a hotel and like every room in this vacant hotel is a different office

For whatever company and so each room in the hotel is raking in money as an office that's supposed to be working as a hostile or as some sort of you know a rehab center or you know fill in the blank They have all these learning centers all these different kinds of things and it's all just government scams Medicaid scams You know in the scam get in on the scam scam and is the American way looking at how you ask isn't the best way to look at this?

Here's what it said of course not show you what it says after this at all okay

Trump's official Trump meme coin Launched at around one U.S. dollar range reported roughly 0.18 to 0.1.20 and with it about five days at a crash down from a brief spike near 70 to 75 U.S. dollars down to a high of 30s per coin so that's within five days so it's spike did 75 the drop down to 30 different data provide slightly different start points

But they are in the same general zone a crypto analytics notes the Trump was launched on January 17, 2025 Initially worth 18 cents per token so everybody buys in when that happens other coverage and exchange post Described trading beginning around $1 or about $1 within the first hours after launch So reasonable takeaways launch price is 0.2 to 1.0 U.S. dollars per Trump depending on which exact tick you chose So within first hours after launch the price skyrocketed from around $1 to around 75 U.S. dollars

So that's when you want to get out within the first hours reports the same weekend site highs near

70 to 75 U.S. dollars in a market cap over 10 to 12 billion a finance report on days after launch

“Trading started around $7 U.S. dollars on Friday jump to size 74 on Sunday so that's what he's supposed to get out”

So let me ask this what is it worth now? It's like $2 now Interesting so it got as high as $74 You got hold on to it. You're not your fault. There's some case. There's a little bit more. It's like There's more into it because it's not there's the easiest coin to get and how do you get it and all those kinds of things to come into play

And that's kind of what I think the sentence is more about right but if it went to 75 Somebody must have made a ton of loot right

Had to yeah, that's what says but 800,000 wallets which could be people collectively lost around two billion dollars

While the Trump organization and partners profited heavily from fees Interesting so that this is the thing like that's just that one. What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history? Let's look at that Sam Bank from freed that should I think it was him. Well, I think what he was doing he said that if he was left alone He would have recovered the debt and that he had been doing this back and forth. They just caught him in a moment where this one guy

Sold all his coins off to try to crash him on purpose like his rival and then he didn't have the money to cover the spread and then people wanted their money out And then Then they realized but he had been they all do that apparently it was what his or I don't know

“But that's what his argument was I believe is that I think he said that if he was not that they didn't interfere with him”

Not only would those coins have gotten the money back, but they would be profitable today I see I have friends that have profited from it, but when I hear them talk about it It's like I just don't quite understand it fully

How do I how I can make money? I can't do it. Yeah, not only do I not understand it. I don't trust it Yeah, it sounds crazy

“I don't know people that try to talk you into it. They freak me out”

Well a lot of times they just know there's a new scam somebody in my family you get in court But these fucking scammers, but they're they're finding elderly if I go on through the elderly community a new new

Ponzi period me it's Ponzi scheme and then basically they're telling these old folks that

They had that they are joining a crypto exchange But the crypto isn't real So they they download they don't they have they download this app and they tell them all you got to do is get up every morning and make these trades And you make you make you make you know this much percent If you're money back and so and they go and you know what and just so you know it's not a scam

I'm gonna put in a grant for you. I'm gonna put in two five put I fucking I put in five grant for you But you don't realize that money's fake too. You download the app. They can show you how much money you want But you can't get that money out. It's so here's how they get you So they get you either way so if if you do so The the ultimate plan is to lull you into going

Like they want you to lock they want you to log on every day and see that number number going up and go oh shit I'm gonna put my money in there so so I can make even more money Right, that's the ultimate plan But if you even if you got suspicious And you like I want to take my money out. What they go. Okay, we're just send us an early with draw fee

So they only gonna be a little bit of money out of you, but they still get real money out of you for no money And even if you end up getting so suspicious that you won't even do that Well, they they they they got you to download this app on your phone and so they got your information Oh, yeah, most people use the same lock of credentials across apps you didn't gave them that as well Right, you know, oh your they got your email just they could sell that and they have you have your security questions

So they know your first dog's name So it's like it at the very least they get in the way with your info right or some of your real money You know and and old a lot of old folks they hear crypto and they don't really understand it So it's easy to convince them that oh, it's just something I don't understand, but that makes it easy for me Isn't it crazy that the polymarket thing for this special forces soldier that he's going to jail for this

But Congress is allowed to inside or trade oh bro, bro, and that that's kind of crazy because you can't

“You can't be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro's gonna be successful, right?”

So if they're trying to overthrow Maduro that's a military operation

They're not always successful, so if he's gambling on a military operation, then he's about to embark in

He's kind of betting on his own life. Well, I think what they're getting him for is more than he endangered the mission Really because I think because I was saying because yeah because you're Because if if we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret and It gets out there that someone keeps on predicting when we're going to make certain movements then our enemies will be watching polymarket for when people bet on that I shouldn't make sense, right? Is that really the case, Jimmy? What is he in trouble for?

I mean, I was just I'm reading through the justice.gov thing. Well, Brian was saying started to make sense off of here, but at the bottom it says the actual charges and the charges are Three counts of violate in the commodity exchange act each which carries a maximum of 10 years count of wire frog which is a 20-year max one kind of unlawful monetary transaction which is a 10-year max and what's the other one? Well, that's way too. It says there's three.

That's crazy because like How come no one in Congress over gets in trouble? They do sometimes. No, no. When they don't vote correctly. No, like every year somebody goes down on insider trading. No, they get busted for other shit.

“Yeah, you write for like taking grabs and stuff. Yeah, has anybody ever been busted Congress wise for insider trading on stocks?”

I don't think so. If I guess there was another controversy recently. They're accusing federal men of doing it. But the type of shit the average person goes to jail. Oh, my God. What? You want to talk about something that'll piss you off about somebody going to jail? Yeah. This guy I'm Florida. What was his name? Um. Yeah, few people have for sure. Really? Congress people? Yeah, for insider trading? Yeah, even recently. Well, that's crazy. Uh, it says rep from New York, Chris Collins pled guilty in 2019 to insider trading and lying.

Yeah, I'm not drug trial. 26 months in prison and a team mobile stock purchase. Definitely no senators though. Well, these are people that know what it knows. Look at these people. This ain't Nancy Pelosi 2020 scandal.

So occasionally I know COVID. No powerful people are going to prison for that shit.

What did you get for lying? 78 members have been arrested. One different, not not arrested, but all violated the stock act.

Interesting, which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days. Maybe that's just because they try to hide it. And everybody else is just like, oh, I just made it good though. They're saying just in this Congress. This April three candidates were fine by Kalishy for for allegedly. Whatever political insider trading by betting on their own races. How, but wait a minute. You can't bet on your own race. That seems crazy. Like if you think you're going to win, you don't know if you're going to win. No one knows. But you're probably the first one to know which way it's going to go.

I don't know about that. I don't think those, those poles are ever correct. That's not true. It must be somewhat correct. They were suspended from Kalishy. So I don't think I'm going to check this shit out. This is going to get on the ice game. So let's do Michael Martin in Florida.

He, he, he made an addition to his house a million dollar addition to his house. It got to prove by the city and everything.

And after he put it up, his neighbors complained. They went and dug up some like hundred-year-old statue and and complained, right? So they take them to court. And his argument is, well, it

“got approved by the city. Like that's why I built it. So fuck them. But he, but he compromised already.”

He compromised and he, he put up a thing to block his view. So it wouldn't bother them. Okay. And that wasn't good enough of them. So then the judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down. Oh my God. And he refused. And now he's still in jail where he's still in jail right now. Oh my God. For contempt of court. Is this a homeowner's association thing? No, it's just his neighbor. No, no, because he, everything was approved. They got approved by the HOA.

He got approved by the city and everything. He spent all his money. He spent all his money built it up and then and then his neighbor had a problem with it. Oh, his neighbor's a piece of shit. And now the judge wants to tear it down. Imagine your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to your house. But why do you give up? Fuck. If I'm going, if I'm going to jail over there, I'm going to whip your ass. I'm going to be in there for something. That's so crazy that people can

take someone to court for doing something to their house. Like, what does it matter to you? Is it affecting your view? Like, what is it? Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like the technically, I think the argument you can make is that I bought this house because the forest was right there and he's chopping down the forest. Is that what he's doing? No, no, it's not what he's doing. But it's like, I don't know what the, and I forget what the statue did that they found. His name was

Mike Michael Martin, but they found some old as technicality. Right, the city didn't even know about because they approved it. You'd hate that. Yeah, even forever. If that guy made you take down your edition, you spent 200 grams building up because that's my thing. It's like, how was the judge? How can

“you tell a man fuck your million dollars? Right. Right. That's what's crazy. And you got approved by the city.”

And he can't appeal that. I don't know if he's in jail while it's being appealed and that's what his lawyer's like he's. No, because he has the thing, he can get out of jail anytime he wants.

Always do his tear down the edition. Yes, it's tear down the edition. Yeah, but if he's appealing,

why would he tear down the edition? And then if what he wins the appeal he builds it back up again and then the guy appeals the appeal. It's also said that demo is going to cost 800 grams. Oh my god. Oh my god. This fucking current neighbor. Yeah, you talk a lot of being. What is this specifics though? Am I wrong? I mean, maybe the neighbor's right. Like, I'm what I'm going to see how it went down. Yeah, because what did what did the neighbor have any, how could that make sense? Yes, it's

starting off said the lawyer for a Tampa, Tampa couple who asked a judge to find their neighbor in contempt of court over a disputed guest house says there's more to the story than it first brought you about of course. There's always more to the story. What is it? It's a growing show. It's not sharing. My old neighborhood there was this guy built a house and it was just kind of flat. It was a flat. It was kind of boring. It was like just a, it was just like not creative.

The guy was a builder. He wasn't much of an architect and I don't think he hired an architects. He just had his own idea to how to build the house, but he got permits and he did it. But I remember my neighbor

“complaining and he's like, you believe this guy built this fucking house? And like, what does a big deal?”

And he's like, you don't think that's an ice war? I go well. It's boring. It's boring house. Like, what do you care? I just didn't understand it, but he wanted to like start complaining and get a bunch of people to file a complaint about this guy's house. Local news site. The location will allow the occupant of the guest house to peer into the backyard and pull area of the Babitz home. Oh, Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babitz property

Yeah, they were, they were mad. They think that you could, you could see into their house

“to their yard where their pool is. Yeah, that's how it started. That says that was the initial”

complaint, but there's 500 violence that they've had over five years ago. Oh, God. 1924 original subdivision said it was public space or supposed to be public space or something like that. Yeah, 1924. They wouldn't found a 1924 statute. They're saying that the company he hired that got the approval did that illegally and that's their claim, I guess. And it all could cast a deal with the evidence. So Martin signed a contract with the

demolition company needs to pay 392,370,000, 50 cents to dynamite demolition. What a great name. I want to get a t-shirt. Dynamite demolition. To begin tearing down the structures, Judge Nash rejected them until last week, finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail. No one has above the law, but Clarence said, so we just want the courts

ruling to be complied with. And that's it. Boy, but somebody being able to see into your pool is wow for you to really go through this much trouble. She said, oh, say, so this general contractor, Julie McGill's one of the several outside contractors and developers, I asked to evaluate the case. She says she can't remember a time when a judge told the city that it didn't follow its own code on neighborhood conformity. Wow. But see, Mr. Martin, Mr. Martin, you've

fucking up the game. You know what you got to do, man? You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin? Just comply. Okay, because you're not going to win like this. Do what they say, pay the money,

tear it down. I'm guessing you've got the money. If you've been in a million dollar guess house

with a pickleball court and a pool for just for your guess, you got the bread. Pay that bread and then you take the money you save from not being caught up in all of these lawsuits. Okay, and you spend it on revenge. You hired the most co-blooded fucking creative people you can think of. And you make this person's life miserable. And all the legal ways possible. And all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it. You hire a bunch of college students. You get him a prize

“for whoever finds any statute that can fuck this man's life up. That's what you do. Don't sit in jail.”

You cannot take any revenge that cost you something. It's you have to, it's got to be pure delight. You know, it's got to be serve cold. That's why the saying is the revenge is the best serve cold. It's like you have to take care with the dish. You can't just react. It would be weird though if you

always had a backyard where your pool didn't face anybody and then also I'm going to do put a house

right behind your pool. Put up a zipper money. It's not exactly what it was. It says there was already. They put together some lots to make one bigger lot and there was already some something on that. And so when he bought it, they're like we'll see a problem with fixing that, changing how it looked and that I that. But here's also the thing, no Joe. He offered to block, like put up with wall blocks for me to have no windows. Yeah. So it's a bamboo. And I feel like

if it is a good neighbor, that's reasonable. That's a reasonable car. I was going, oh, you know, I didn't even think about the accuracy of the house. We'll just knock the windows out. That feel like instead of being like, no, I want you to waste a million dollars. Right. Fuck, to me, that's when you became the bad guy. When he offered the reasonable compromise and you said, fuck no, then fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. I'm telling you right now. They lucky

is not me with a million. Because I'm Batman now. I'm Batman and you the Joker. And I'm just been

my whole, I'm going, I'm going to live my life as no, those, that's true. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to tear it down. I'm a cell to house. I'm going to use all the money from all from selling this house. I mean, he's all that money to make your life hard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm going to pay people with a breaking your house. And that's it. And throw, don't do that. That's legal. You don't want to pay. You don't do illegal. Let a crackhead do it. But that's the legal.

Yeah. Okay. No way. Right. Yeah, too. Then you'll be in jail. Cut your internet line, wait till you call the repair shots illegal too. I've been throw dead mice in the back of the events. You can't have it be illegal. He's got to be right. It can't be illegal. It must be legal. But I just can't think of anything legal right now. Well, you can sue people for all kinds of stupid shit and just make them go through legal problems. Don't sue. Yeah, just have, just have people

outside with a tape measure. If they, if they, if they send a meter from the curb. Oh, God. Straight neighbor wars, the labor wars are real, man. People can kill each other over

“labor wars. Oh, yeah. The hat feels in the McCoy's ancient. Yeah. I think that was over some”

other shit. It's nothing worse. There's nothing worse than living besides somebody that like this. No, it's completely unreasonable, completely unable to compromise. Nice neighbors are beautiful. Oh, man. You have good neighbors. It's great. I have nice neighbors. It's nice. And I have nice, nice neighbors in California too. Because because he has a thing, it doesn't take much to be a good

when it's brought to your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame. Well,

here goes. Uh, uh, those over a stolen hog, elicit romance and long-standing judges,

“two neighboring families in the backwards of Appalachia. So here's the thing about that, though. I”

think this is from, is this from Malcolm Gladwell's book? I forget who's book it's on from. Um, but there was a book where they explained that what it happened. I believe it's Malcolm Gladwell. Was it explaining that the reason why the people in Appalachia or so violent is because they come from hurting populations in Europe. And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers. Because if herders, someone can come along and steal all your sheep and your fucked,

you can't really steal all someone's corn. It's it takes forever. You got to chop it down,

you know what I mean? So these people were used to defending their animals with violence, because people would come in and try to steal them. Uh, yes, Malcolm Gladwell, yeah, outliers. That's the book. Uh, chapter six, Hatfield McCoyed Fewed is analyzed the prime example of a culture of honor,

“where similar to the findings in this Reddit thread and ancestral hurting roots forced rapid”

brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation. This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict. So culture of honor, Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the Appalachian Mountains. In these regions, law enforcement is weak and survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and prompt, often violent retaliation against slits. Yeah, that makes sense. What was the name of the book,

though? Outliers. A fucking great book. It's a really good book. Yeah, I haven't read it though. It's really good. It talks about like why people are successful. The one of the more interesting things is about the Beatles. And the Beatles talks about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where they were performing every fucking day, every day. They were doing multiple sets, every day. And they did it for like a few years. And they went back to Liverpool and everybody's

like, what the fuck happened with you guys? How did you get so good? And they got so good because they were just performing all the time. I think it was at a strip club. I think it was something crazy like that. They were performing music at a strip club, something weird. And because of that,

“they were just getting a rap, like crazy rap. And I think that's the key to like almost anything.”

And this is the argument in outliers. It's like, you know, the 10,000 hours of mastery like that argument. Yeah, but the 10,000 hours is not exactly what he said, right? No, it's a rough. Because there's obviously people that are savants. I think he modified it because he talked about it. It's not about the amount of time as much as it's about the time, the quality of practice. Right. So like intentional direct it practice,

which would be like performing on stage. Exactly. For all those, where is what were they doing in Hamburg, Germany? Jamie, were they, were they at, were they out of, was it a strip club? Something like that. It says they played in clubs and strip bars. Yeah. So there's a lot of places, I guess. So they were just going off. They were just like doing as many sets as they can, which is the same with comedy. Everybody who that we know that really progressed rapidly, they did as many sets as possible.

They're hopping all over the place. Like guys in our club, like Ari Maddie, for instance, that fucking dude, he'll go up at the sunset, he'll go over here, go there, go there, doesn't show up to mothership. He's just in it, you know, he's in it, you know, all day. And when you're doing that, you just get better quicker. Let's get better and better. And those dudes that we know that do a set of week, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes. That's it.

You don't seem again for another week. They kind of like get stale, stay flat, they get stagnant. Yeah, stagnant. Yeah. Whereas the Beatles just got after it. And then all of a sudden, "Love, love, mayday." They just got smooth, you know, which makes sense. That's the case with everything, though. But like everything you do, like you don't want to surge in that does brain surgery once a year. You know, you want a guy who's like in it, he's in it all day. He's fucking studying journals

and practicing with robots. Yeah, I'm trying to be your third brain that day. That's right.

Yeah. You don't want to be the fifth brain, though. It gets tired. No. Yo, you know, funny, I just saw something about, um, they did a, he did a study at a courthouse where, and they found that that, that judge, whenever the judges had, like how harsh of a sentence you received, uh, was directly related to how long it had been since the judge ate something.

Like, and it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's enough. It's statistically significant. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes sense. Cranky. Yeah. Or if the judge gets no pussy, it's going through a divorce. You know, maybe his wife fucked her trainer. Oh, yeah. Give me the cube. Give me the kind judge right after breakfast. What if you come in in your, your personal trainer, too? And you're dealing with some shit? Mm. And judge's like,

my, my, my, my, my, my. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, some people get a little pity like that. They don't give a fuck about, about, like, doing the right thing. Oh, hell, no. No, they just want to, they want to feel power, fuck people over a fuck you. Oh, fuck all trainers. Well, you know, another thing I just found out about is, um, um, I think, I think that the country's Anguella, right, Jamie? They, they, um,

so you know how, you know how like in America, the website to all.com and in Russia, it's like dot are you, right? In Anguella, it's dot AI. Oh, which didn't use to mean shit, but now, no, it's worth some money. Now they're making so much money selling domains that it's like half of their money. Oh, wow. It's completely changed the economy there. Oh, that's crazy because it seems like your legit, if you have like, proplexity dot AI. Right. So anybody, anything that, yeah, they got to

pay these people. Oh, wow. Yeah. But there's so many domains now. Yeah, just from something we didn't use to think, me, anything. Because it used to be like, you only had dot com and dot net. Oh, yeah.

You know, you never know what to, like, bro, somebody just held up a, uh, somebody, um, because I'm

on a one of the, one of the, so bread it's, I'd be on this called, uh, why would you touch that or what is this? And usually, usually the same post are on both because people are like, what is this thing or, and then also why did, why did you why are you touching that? But so, I just saw obviously, but somebody held up a thing and they were like, what is this, what is this, what does this, oh, f mean? And it was like, but it, but it was, it was from so, you know, Tyler the creator.

Yes. So he, when he first came out, his group was called off future. So this was way before only fans.

“And, okay. And so if you saw, oh, f, you know, before seven years ago, it meant, that's what it meant.”

Right. And so it was one of their, like, stickers or promo things. It's like that, but he, but this is a young kid he founded in an attic or something. He, you know what the fucking man. He was like, why is it? Because he knew how old it was. So he was like, it can't be only fans. What is this? Right. Yeah. And it's like, it changed a lot of times because they, they got this, uh,

dot, yeah, I never thought it, nobody thought they would make any fucking money off of it. Right.

No. Well, there was other, there's other ones like that, too, that are kind of interesting. There's a bunch of different ones. I'm trying to remember some of them, but some of them are, like, dot biz. Hmm. When that comes from, oh, no, who is that? Is that, uh, I don't know, but they have that, like, they have dot biz. Like, I remember back when that used to mean something like, like, we used to have, like, don't dot org. I think that EDU's still a thing. Like,

remember when people sell websites for a lot of money. So people would, like, buy a bunch of domains and hold on to them, like, business, I think, business dot com sold for a ton of money.

“Yeah. But now, I think it's hard to do that now. Yeah. What kind of business do you have?”

That people are just looking up business dot com. Why is that even worth anything? You know what I mean? That's like, eating dot com is worth money. I don't know if you remember back when when white when white house dot com was a porn site.

Because the actual site was, it's always been white house dot gov.

But that was, that was back when people didn't know. So white house dot, so people, when everyone was looking for the white house dot com, they go to this point site. Do you know what red band did? No. Do you know the Pepsi Spice thing? No? What is Pepsi Spice? What? What a red band's greatest trolls was he bought Pepsi Spice dot com. So Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out. And so red band bought Pepsi Spice dot com.

And then he started documenting how he was drinking Pepsi Spice and he was having bloody diarrhea. Yeah, that's all he was drinking. He was dying. He was getting cancer. It's like fucking crazy as they. I mean, 14 years ago. So play the gun full screen. 16 long. So he's losing weight.

This is Brian from PepsiSpice dot com.

“A lot of people wouldn't believe me. So that's why I'm making this video.”

My pee has actually turned, not yellow, not the white, but it's got a fake accent. I'm not making this to that. That's why I'm filming goes in this Canon camera, the S4 megapixel camera. So that's how old this is.

I'm going to pee with that, let's run it.

“Seriously, pretend that it's pee's bloody. Oh, this guy. He's so silly. He just kept doing it.”

Like he got worse and worse and worse. And eventually Pepsi Spice bought it from him. The hardest part to believe about that video is the 170 Browns. Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time. Yeah, Brian at one point in time got real heavy. And then went on a crazy fitness kick. He got a stair climber in his house. And he was fucking riding that bitch every day. And he lost a ton of weight.

And he had a photo of him, like with his old jeans. Pepsi Spice project. Pepsi Spice project. He's so silly. But this one man, he committed a lot of fucking time to this. It was very funny. I remember reading it and like dying laughing. I'm like, you're so ridiculous. Yeah, but you know, if rap, if rap band decides fuck you, he can really elevate to like a 50 cent level of pettiness. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but this wasn't even fuck you. This is just him having fun.

Did they come after him? I think eventually they did. But the thing was like they were too stupid to buy Pepsi Spice.com when they had Pepsi Spice. Like you got to buy that. Like who the fuck?

“You should fire somebody. Somebody in your organization is slipping because he didn't know that”

Pepsi Spice was going to be a thing until after you released it. So the fact that you knew that you're going to release Pepsi Spice. You didn't buy a Pepsi Spice.com. It's kind of crazy. That is kind of crazy. Kind of kind of ridiculous. Yeah. That's just shitty planning. That's whoever works for they deserve whatever he did. I tried to, I'm not trying to get because all my social media stuff is BS and I try to get BS.com or it was, it was, it was comedians.com or something like that.

And somebody already owns it. It was like a Canadian improv group or something. Interesting. And they, I was like, wow, buy from you. And the price they said was so crazy. That was like, what? How much? I want to say they asked for like $10,000 or something. And this was back when I, that was, I wouldn't pay that now. But back then I didn't even have it. Right. It was like, what? $10,000 is crazy for a website. Yeah. Because it wasn't like they were doing tons of

“business through this website. Were they using it at all? How much would you paid for it?”

Back then? Yeah. How about a game of $1,000? $1,000. If they said two, no way. Maybe, maybe $1,500. Best in final. I think today though, all anybody does is do a search of your name. And then they find your website. Like your Sony wants to find your website. They

just search. And that's right there. But I, but I need, but part of me always wants everything to be

the same. And then it's not being that way anyway. Because my TikTok is the different thing than everything else. Everything is BS comedians except that. It's interesting to you have TikTok. Don't you worry about the terms of service? Like all the access they have to your phone and access to computers around your network. Don't touch it. The Chinese? Mm-hmm. I mean, well, now some Chinese anymore. Yeah, but it's like, you know, for me, I've never, I've never,

I've never, because the, once, once a were Snowden told us what was up, I'm like, they are, who gives a fuck? I care who's buying? I'm getting spied on a matter of what I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah, what the Chinese is going to do to me? They're going to be like, oh, he's basically they have everything that you've ever done and they only use it if they catch you. So if they're looking for something, I'd say if you run for Congress, he'd do some insider trading,

you do something shitty and they come after you. Then they go, oh, Brian, it's interesting because we have a voicemail. Oh, yeah. On someone's. We were talking about that. They got it though. There we got it. Those have stuff. Somebody got arrested today from Fauci's administration.

They arrested the first guy who was involved in the cover-up of the lab leak theory.

And he was using a Gmail account to avoid freedom of information act requests. So he was using Gmail instead of, I don't know what the reality of all this is. Obviously, I just read about it today. X-Fouchy Top Advisor indicted over alleged COVID cover-up, hidden emails, David Moranz allegedly received gifts, including wine and high end meals from a collaborator, prosecutor say. Oh, see, this is why I don't believe in incognito mo.

Yeah, that's all bullshit. I'm like, oh, jerk off on your main. And delete that shit out to history. Because all incognito mo is, it's just you going, hey Google, this is the stuff I don't want to buy to know about. It's like an easy one and then put it in a file. He served for years as a top advisor with a national institute of allergy and infectious diseases indicted and is accused.

Google, you can trust me. Yeah, Google's like, hey, I know incognito mo, it is legit.

Ignognito mo. So it was using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from freedom of information act requests according to the DOJ indictment on sealed. It was also apparently bragging about it. Allegedly, alleged that morends conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications related to a controversial coronavirus research grant that involved collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Vyrology and China.

The grant was later terminated amid scrutiny over their code with 19 may have originated from a lab leak. How did they catch him? Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right? This is the thing

“because they wanted to get Fauci. That's why the Biden administration gave him a pardon from”

2014 on, which is really kind of wild. Federal prosecutors also claim that morends receive gifts from a collaborator including wine and offers of high end meals and later took steps to justify these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the theory that COVID-19 emerged naturally rather than from the Wuhan lab. So they bribed him to get him to do this allegedly. He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that are going to wind up going down. There's too many

people that are pissed off. There's too many people that are pissed off. There's too many money got lost. Too many people wound up dying. Well, why do you think anybody's going to go to prison?

They never go to prison. Oh, you're not know. This is a new thing. I mean, this kind of thing is

a new thing. And there's enough people that want heads to roll. This is a weird thing. I mean, there's a weird thing where they shut the whole country down. If you find out that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered and they were lying about it and hiding it and covering

“it up. Oh, I see. That's why that's from that. The virus came from the Wuhan lab, okay? These”

people were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab. They were funding a vacation of the hospital group that was funding them. And he was also allegedly being bribed with things to promote the idea that it came from naturally, from natural spillover versus from a lab leak. Allegedly. Who's alleging? Whoever the prosecutors are, whoever, I mean, I don't know, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what they know and what they don't know. But I do know

that obviously there was a concerted effort to make it seem like this came naturally and not from the

Wuhan lab. There was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if you had posted during like 2020 about a lab leak, if you said I think it came from a lab, they would literally pull you off a YouTube. They would kick you off a Twitter back then. Before Elon bought Twitter, they would kick you off Twitter. If you were going on and on about it, this is a lab leak. I mean, we live in it in time. May I hypothetically cook a fuck your world up? You can't even chew on it. You can't

“even have a play devil's advocate. Well, you can now. You can now because of Twitter because of Elon”

bought it. But before then, when the government was essentially in control, I mean, the government was conspiring to control and continue talking about him about Elon. Yeah. People do all day. They're all day. Yeah, all over Twitter. In his defense. I mean, I'm sure he blocked them. But I mean, He-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he

We all went and watched SpaceX launch. We went down to the coal. What's the Gulf, right? - Yeah, they didn't mean gas. But you know, they just launched,

or they're going to launch an on SpaceX. They're going to launch the new telescope. - Yes. - The, was it? - The Nancy Grace Roman, the Roman telescope.

But, ooh, this motherfuckers. - These new telescopes are kind of crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that, like, oh, we didn't know that. It was crazy about this one is how fast they built it.

And, and this is the craziest part. It's under budget. So they built it faster than they said for less than what they said. - And now, what is the power of this one

and as opposed to like the James Webb? - Apparently, so I was listening to this, should I was fascinated earlier? But they're saying, so they weren't comparing it to the James Webb, the comparing to the howl of the Hubble.

'Cause the James Webb is more infrared.

at the same resolution as the Hubble, but way, way bigger. So they were saying that there is not a screen that exists if you could display the picture on. - Yeah, it's a wide field instrument

whereas the James telescope is near infrared. - Interesting. - So what is this going to be able to detect that the James Webb can't? - Exoplanets is one of the big ones.

- It's like way, way, way, way more than we can. - Imagine, imagine if they find actual planets and you can see light on them. - Like us. - Well, I don't know if that's possible.

- One day? - Just imagine. - Imagine.

“- Oh, yeah, I think about it all the time.”

- Fucking, or anything like that would be. - So yeah, so see how huge. - Holy shit. - Yeah, compared to more of the Hubble, I think than James Webb in the type of telescope it is.

- Yeah, and just the amount of information that it can take in. - They're fine and shed food in the James Webb that's freaking them out. They're fine and things that make

and question the age of the universe. - Oh, yeah. - And this thing is going to, it's going to do, like, we, because I don't know if you remember this,

but the first time I was on this pod,

I told you about the James Webb's. Wait, like a year and a half before it came out. - Will we tell him it probably? - I'll just tell you that it existed that it was going to change everything.

- Yeah. - And it has. - And this one is going to do the same thing. - The formation of galaxies is freaking them out. They find these galaxies that are formed

way too quickly. So they're confused. And now they're starting to, like, are we wrong about how long it takes to form a galaxy or are we wrong about the age of the universe?

- Yeah, I mean, there's the, we're wrong about everything. I mean, we're wrong about a lot of things. But it's not, you know, what thing about scientists love being wrong? - Yeah, they do.

Well, especially these kind of scientists, they love new discoveries. - They go. - They're not crazy. - Yeah, they're not talking about it.

Also, it's very difficult to argue when you get the data back from these things. I mean, it is what it is. We were talking about this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger

than our galaxy. - Oh, yeah, yeah, that. - What?

“- Wow, I think you were sending me that.”

I think you sent me that. - Something, or it may not be bigger than our galaxy, or it's commensurate with our galaxy. It's like, there's one that they found

that was bigger than our entire solar system. - It was tons, something. - tons 16, it's bigger than the solar system. - But that's one. But there was the alpha.

What was the other one? Did we look at the other day? And then we brought it up the other day. There's one that's even larger than that. Like, they keep finding these ones

that are just impossibly big. - Yeah, 'cause it would have to have been in primordial, right? They would have to have formed. - But this was the question.

They said that it was so big. It didn't make sense that it had enough time to suck up enough stars to get that big. That was the problem. They were like, there's not enough time

from the birth of the universe for this thing to exist and be this big. - Yeah, because it would have had to have started at a time where matter wasn't close enough together to even form things.

- So fucked up. - It's so crazy. - Yeah. - Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all the way out to Pluto.

- Here's a black hole. - Here's the real sad thing. There's, there's a lot of things that we did are just not knowable to us.

Like we just will never know.

- Right. - And that's, we just got there, except like you hear, every time you hear them talk about how, you know, we're expanding the universe is expanding. So rapidly, then eventually it's going to be

'cause it's speeding up. So eventually it's going to be expanding close to the speed of light. - Right. - And so it's like, at some point,

if there's still people on earth by then at some point, there's not going to be any stars. We're going to be expanding. So rapidly, that when you look up at the sky, you're not going to see anything.

They're going to think that everything outside of galaxy doesn't exist. I mean, they're going to see stars, but they're not going to see, they're not going to know that there's other galaxies.

'Cause the light, the light won't be reaching us. - Wow. - So it's like, so imagine the stuff that we can't know now, that we are already beyond, or we couldn't even know. - I think it's called Phoenix.

I think that was the, it's the same thing. - I'm looking at the other. They're everything about 10, 6, 1, 18. It's the biggest thing they've ever found.

- And how big is it, exactly? - 88. - That's God. - Oh, what did I say? - What did I say?

- It's lost the,

mass is the size of roughly 66 billion suns.

“- I think it's, I don't know if I can know what that means, man.”

- I don't understand. - 66 billion solar masses. - That's so crazy. - You can't even really, you can't even really imagine that. - Do you know what they said that there are more planets

in the universe than there are seconds since the big bang? - Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's why.

- Oh, that's what it is.

“Okay, so Phoenix, the quasar, as a quasar,”

10, 6, 18 is believed to be the active, galactic nucleus at the center of a galaxy. The engine of which is a supermassive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas and matter in an accretion disc, what does that mean?

- That's the disc around the black hole that like when it eats something, that's where the light is coming from. - Ah, when did they discover this? - 1950, 60.

- Nature of this object was first known in '57,

13 years later, 1970, discovered emissions from it. - Yeah, I wanna get it, really get freaked out. Jamie, look up the great attractor. - What is that? - So, this kind of scary space is so,

so there is something on the other side of us that we can't see and everything is moving in that direction, including us, and we don't know what's pulling you. - What?

- Hidden galaxies discovered in the zone of avoidance. What does that mean? The great attractor to feet dark energy would not look up us. - What is it? - The great attractor is a region of gravitational attraction

in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the Lana Kia super cluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy as well as about 100,000 other galaxies. The observed attraction suggest a localized concentration

of mass having the order of 10 to the 16 solar masses. However, it's obscured by the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of avoidance so that invisible light wavelengths the great attractor is difficult to observe directly.

- Bro, there's no way you can know everything. - There's too much information. - So we know everything's being sucked towards it. - What is that? - We don't know, and it's sucking all these galaxies,

all these stupid galaxies, everything's moving towards it and we can't tell what it is. - Imagine if your job to know what's going on in the universe. - Hey, Brian, write me a paper on what's going on in the universe. Like everything?

Everything?

- Yeah, I mean, it would never end.

There's with every new satellite that gets launched that can see into the space, every new telescope that gets utilized like we're fucked. - Here's the other thing though. - And I could be wrong about this.

I mean, I'm wrong about a lot of shit.

“But I think that it actually physically impossible”

for you to know even a fraction of the things because any device that could store that amount of information would collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere near or storing enough. So your brain couldn't even hold even a percentage

of a percentage of the information. - That makes sense. - We have pea brains. - Yeah, yeah. - There's no way we could have that information.

The South Pole? What is this? - It's flat earthers, they're gonna love this. - Okay, South Pole wall or the South Pole wall. There's a massive cosmic structure formed by giant wall

of galaxies, a galaxy filament that extends across at least

1.37 billion light years of space.

The nearest light and consequently part of which is aged at about a half a billion light years. The structure and its astronomical angle is dense in five known places, including one very near the celestial South Pole and is according to the international

team of astronomers to discover the South Pole wall. The largest, contiguous feature in the local volume and comparable to the Sloan Great Wall at half the distance. Okay, you just like-- - I just were a blocked in by walls as long as it's getting out.

- Maybe that's why they're confused.

“- Maybe that's what they think the Antarctic Wall is.”

- Or maybe the South Pole. - Maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're a problem and they got us locked in. - You know, perhaps we got, we got not before him fucked the galaxy up.

- Maybe back in the Egyptian days, maybe that's what they were doing. - Something? - You see that you've seen that shit that they found underneath the pyramids, right?

- No, you haven't seen that? - I don't think so. - What do you mean? - Oh, you don't know. - Okay, oh, you don't know.

- You don't know. (laughing) - Oh, you don't know. - Like, you should sell DJs. - You don't know. - Oh, you don't know.

They found these structures. They use, what is it called? Radio, tomography, satellite, radio, tomography. And there's this ground penetrating shit that they've found these structures underneath the pyramids

that go over a kilometer deep into the earth. Like pillars, giant columns that are surrounded by coils

They've used this technology successfully

to detect things that they know exist,

“like certain voids that are in pyramids,”

and certain chambers, and certain temples that they know exist underground. And they've accurately described these things, including they use this radio tomography on, there's a mountain in Italy

that has a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain, over a kilometer into the mountain. They built this particle collider. And this thing, this information, this technology shows an accurate image

of what this particle collider looks like. The exact dimensions shows it exact. And so they're using this underneath the pyramid, and this guy, Philippo Beyondi, this Italian scientist that I had on the podcast,

explained that they've used this underneath the pyramids and there's these undeniable structures that exist that go down into the ground,

like very deep into the ground.

So the pyramids are just the top of this immense structure. - When you say the Italian scientist, I just keep thinking about him like taking a map in the middle of it. - The eating process, drinking wine eventually,

we have figured it out.

“- So you're saying that there are machines down there,”

or something? - They don't know what it is. So they have a really dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet, but they know that these sensors,

this technology is detecting these structures. - Show, Jamie show what it looks like. - Show them the 3D model, they made a 3D model, but it's a shock that we can't get in there. - That's what they think it looks like.

- Okay. - What? - Imagine, if that's accurate, if there really are columns underneath the pyramid, I mean, that's just seems so impossible.

- It seems impossible. - And there's heat? - No, I don't think it's heat. I don't think that's what it is. There's a water table underneath there too.

And they think it has something to do with the use

of the pyramid in the first place

that it wasn't simply just a structure that it had some sort of a use.

“And that these columns were doing something”

and that it was probably some sort of a technology. - Look how nuts that is. Megastructures underneath the pyramids. Could you go back to what that one said with the, yeah, right there.

Look at that, a alleged Megastructures under Egypt's pyramids sparking fascination and fear skepticism worldwide. Will you lose something? - No, I think about it.

So if it's true, that's nuts. - Yeah, I mean, that sounds absolutely fucking crazy to me that I'm just thinking about the work that it would take to even do that. - Right, and what kind of a society did that?

- And for what purpose? - And it's at least 4,500 years old. At least, at least. - Yeah, and so apparently those ancient pyramids were before we thought they,

like I thought like the modern Egyptians built those pyramids. - No, they weren't, the pyramids were ancient to them. - Well, that seems to be the case with a lot. That's the, the lab rent, that's underneath the, it's outside of the pyramids.

This is another insane structure that they found that Herodidus documented way back in thousands of years ago. But this is all Ben Van Kirkwick from his uncharted X YouTube channel. Sort of described all this and explained it.

And they've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show that there's this immense structure that Herodidus described as being greater than Giza itself that's underneath the ground. And inside the lab rent, there's a 40 meter long metallic object

that shaped like a tic-tac. - So whatever the fuck that is, who knows. But I think there's a lot of shit from that part of the world that's gonna show us that civilization at one point in time

had received very high level. Like probably even higher than we are today. And then it was wiped out and then we're the rebuild. - Well, he didn't cure a syphilis. - Actually, you know, does a new syphilis?

- I heard from Michigan or some shit. - All right, from Washington, probably from Michigan. - No, no, it was in Washington. - Washington? - Yeah, the dude, the dude.

- A new kind of syphilis? - It's not a, the dude had two, we had two syphilis. - Two different. - Yeah, two ones. - What a dirty pants, man.

- And they, the same way that COVID was going through like genetic recombination. So like they were exchanging traits inside his body. - Oh boy. - And creating a syphilis.

- Yeah, and then, and then, and then what happened is, a bunch of old ladies kept going to the ER, and they all kept describing the same man, and they tried. - He was spreading. He was a super spread.

- He was spreading. - And he went to the ER because it was, 'cause apparently like this, whatever strain he has, it just causes you to go blind, super quickly, and all these things, and there's the bait about whether

he knew he was purposely spreading it and didn't give a fuck, 'cause they told him, "Yeah, you gotta come back."

- And then he kept fucking.

“- He just kept fucking and didn't go back.”

And then he went, and then he didn't go back until he had another emergency, and he went to a different emergency room. - How many times in human history has happened the cause of a plague? - Some guys, some guys.

- Some guys wouldn't stop fucking. - It was not fucking.

And just won't tell anybody.

- I mean, you can't be mad at it.

“- It's five cases of rare, ocular syphilis.”

- Which can cause vision impairment or blindness identified in Southwest Michigan. Michigan. - Oh. - Too much in July, 2020, too.

All linked to a single heterosexual male partner. Wow. All five women, aged 40 to 60, he wasn't picky. Reported having sexual contact with the same man, this guy was a freak.

- Yeah, bro. He was a fucking fucking. He didn't even people blind because he was crazy. Imagine leaving the emergency room.

Cause the first time he was in emergency room

they thought he had her piece. - Wow. - And they gave him something for that and he left. But imagine coming from the emergency room from the STD scare and going right back to fucking.

- And going blind. - All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin. No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment.

- All right, bro, what's wrong with the syphilis? - Mm-hmm. - Anything going on?

“When is, you're gonna put your special on that later, yeah?”

- When you can put that out. - Uh, I think it's gonna be a summer time, July. - Okay. - Take put my special up on YouTube. - Come back and join 'em.

- Yeah, we'll do that. - I'll see you tonight. - All right, yeah, thanks for coming to.com. - Brian Simpson, come to me, come, come, come. - Goodbye.

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