#2518 - Tim Dillon

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[MUSIC] >> I was talking to father, I said I can make you guys know it's a good thing about you.

You never smoked them down to the filter.

>> What a good kid. >> And what a great family. >> I want a great family. >> My sister smoke, we were in high school. >> I was like, God, why are you smoking?

>> It's so stupid. >> Yeah. >> Then I had to do a play once with Adam Ferrarra and a couple of other people. And I was supposed to play this, something that a bunch of comics wrote. It was funny little disgusting.

And I was supposed to play this tortured liberal arts student, and he was smoking cigarettes. So they wanted me to smoke cigarettes while I was doing it. So I smoked like 15 fucking cigarettes while we were doing it. And I threw up, I had a fucking horrible headache.

>> Really? >> Because I was like, God, I'm so high. >> Wow. >> My arms don't move, right? If you've never smoked cigarettes at all and you smoke 15 in a row, during, were you like an athlete too?

“>> Oh yeah. >> Oh, so that totally fucked you up.”

>> Oh, completely fucked me up. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, the first time I had a cigarette, it's so terrible, but I was like, this is great. >> [LAUGH] >> My body was spawned in. I don't know how like what you had is the very normal experience.

>> It was just too much. >> One cigarette I actually liked. I was like, whoa, what a head rush. This is kind of cool. I go, now I kind of get it.

I get why you guys liked this. >> Interesting. >> But we were doing this thing,

and I had to always be smoking.

So we had a rehearse, we were doing it all day, and I wanted to try to like feel normal with a cigarette in a hand. So I kept smoking them, and then I liked them. So I kept smoking them. >> Yeah, it's a tough thing, because the thing about,

and I've been sober 15 years from alcohol and drugs. And I look at people that are really drunk, it doesn't look appealing, it doesn't look good. But when you see somebody with a cigarette, it always looks good. It looks like, it always looks good.

You never say to yourself like, that person's gonna loot. Now you'll get sick and die, but you never go, they're gonna lose control of their life. >> So you look at somebody with a cigarette, and you go, oh, yeah, they're having one, they're cool, it's fine.

They're using it to help hang on. >> Well, yeah, I never look cool with it. It's like you look at an actor doing it, or someone at like the cond film festival. >> Yeah, someone like that.

>> Timothy Shalom, he has one, he's the size of one, and he has one, and I go, that's his wife. >> Probably a France or something, you know what I mean? They all do shit like that, so you'll see that.

“>> You should get a cigarette holder to go with your sunglasses.”

>> Yeah, I'll just put a cigarette holder. >> Yeah, that's your next move. >> I just got a long stems with the cigarette at the end of it. >> Like 1920s, like 1920s, and now it's the worst thing because the smell is terrible, and it destroys your clothes,

and it's very bad for your health, obviously. But it is one of those things that it's just such a good product. What other product could they tell you? It kills you, and we're raising the price every year. >> Come out in England where they smoke like crazy,

you have actual cancer on the fucking cartons. >> When you buy them, I was in London and you bought one. >> There was like a dead baby on the phone. >> Photo, what? >> They were like low birth weight. >> Yeah. >> I was like, this is terrible.

>> And not cares, they smoke more over there than anywhere. >> They smoke more over there, they don't eat the way we eat. Like they don't understand the way we eat, gluttony, they don't get it. There is, there are, there's something called Toby Carvery, like where you can just lay the lawn, Sunday roast,

and Yorkshire pudding, and stuff. But for the most part, the portions are smaller, and people are more behaved in that sense. But they drink more, and they smoke. >> This is it.

European World Cup fans losing their minds over Taco Bell, Ranch, and unlimited refills. >> Yeah, because they get sick when they come here, they get sick because there's chemicals in our food. >> Somebody was telling me they went to Bucky's,

and the soccer teams were at Bucky's for the first time, and they just fucking couldn't believe it. >> Of course. >> Imagine that's your first experience as you have in America, you walk into a Bucky's.

>> Yeah. >> And you're from Czechoslovakia or some shit. >> It's one of the most American places, as you've said, that exists. You have this gas station, but that's also like a weird theme park of food, and all kinds of other shit that you could need.

>> Yeah, this guy, dude, LMAO, this is a gas station. >> Yeah. >> Well, they see how big they are.

>> Yeah. >> The first 24 million views, that's hilarious.

>> No, it's completely alien to their culture. >> Yeah. >> To have a place like that, where you could go buy the Costco's or alien to them, the idea that you could buy mayonnaise in a bucket, or jars and things that you would keep like, it's all,

they all think we're preppers. Because if you go to like a big grocery store chain, you're buying food for a long period of time, they don't do that there, they buy stuff for like the week. >> They have small refrigerators.

>> They don't have refrigerators like we have, but also they don't have the same amount of preservatives in their food, which is why it's not poison. >> Right. >> They also don't think, and they could be wrong about this,

but they also don't think that like they're gonna lose access because of some race war, you know what I mean? >> Right. >> Like there is a little bit of planning that goes into some of these grocery runs that does seem slightly paranoid.

>> Oh yeah, well the news media over here ramps you up. >> Yeah. >> And you, you know, start thinking about stockpiling gold. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah, well when I lived in LA, when my kids were young, I had an apocalypse truck built.

>> Right. >> That toy little anchors I got, I specifically, I go, I need a bug out truck. I got truck work, it's store a lot of shit in it, and they could literally drive over a mountain. That's what I need.

I need a car that's not just a road car. >> Right. >> I need a car that occasionally ship my go sideways, and you gotta get the fuck out of here, and you gotta drive through the desert. >> Wow. >> And I've left LA multiple times

to make that drive, not in an apocalypse car, but because of fires, because of riots, sometimes it's gotta get out of dodge. >> Three feet away. >> I gotta evacuate three fucking times when I lived there, and it got us close

to burning my fence down. >> It's part of the LA experience to get in a car. David Spade called me once during the riots. He goes, "Your block is on fire." I thought he was kidding, but there was just overturned

cop cars on fire, and it was like riots. It's just 20. >> It's 20. >> So I just got to my corner and went, "Oh, can I drove to the desert?" That's part of the LA experience is fleeing.

“>> That's what Palm Beach is. >> Yeah, yeah.”

>> The Palm Springs. >> Palm Springs, right? >> Yeah, you can flee. >> Yeah, you flee, go. I mean, Palm Springs makes no sense. >> So how does fuck there's no water? >> Well, you know why it started with money.

>> It started because when Paramount Pictures was doing edits, if you were in a movie, you had to be within 200 miles until the movie was finished editing. It was in your contract. Palm Springs is exactly 200 miles from LA.

>> Oh, that's what she was doing. That's why they started. Hollywood, they were like, "We own you. You can't go anywhere until the film was edited." So if you wanna go on a vacation,

you have to go there. You know what's interesting is like, Pasadena was where all the producers live. >> Yeah. >> There is beautiful houses in Pasadena,

mid-century modern beautiful place is like a state that just seemed completely out of place. Totally beautiful and from another time. >> From another time. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's the thing in LA now.

You get the vibe that your Santino made a brilliant point. He's like, "It's not Hollywood, it's Hollywood the sequel." Like, you're not living in the thing anymore.

You're living in whatever the second version of the thing is.

>> Right. >> The second of the thing is, the second version is TikTok. >> Yeah, whatever it is. >> It's not, it's not what it was in every place seems a little bit like a museum or like,

it was cool 20 years ago or 15 years ago. >> You know, somebody recently said this and it's perfect. They said LA is slowly becoming Detroit. >> Interesting. >> Yeah.

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Hold your money, too, with this player. >> The weather will help with the industry dried up. >> Right. >> So the big industry in Hollywood, regardless whether or not it's the biggest economic industry, the biggest industry in terms of a cultural value,

and getting people to move there, was always show business.

>> Yeah, and that's, they barely make movies anymore. >> They overtaxed and overregulated their biggest industry to other states and other countries. >> Yeah. >> And most people are making things all over the world.

“And very few, I think, at one time it was like 80 to 90%.”

Now it's 25, 30% shot in LA. >> Wow. >> It's a big difference. >> That's a giant difference.

this is the best place in the world. Everyone's gonna come here no matter what. >> Right. >> That's the Gavin Newsom attitude when every friend's California talks about how great the GDP is.

We're the fifth, we're the fifth largest economic boom. >> Yeah. >> You know, he starts rattling off all these wonderful statistics. And this is like, instead of acknowledging, we've got a fucking real problems, people are moving

for the first time ever more than they're coming here. We're losing all these giant corporations, literally, instead of that, it's just this where the shit doesn't, I'm very big on California. I'm bullish on California.

>> Right. >> It's always gonna be amazing here.

>> Well, it's what every empire said until they fell. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> There's, we are the thing. But what I want to ever believe that things can fall. It's a weird, well, we'll walk right through the call

scene when we'll listen, never have it again. >> Right. >> When we landed in LA, I looked to the right and that warehouse was on fire with 85 billion or 85 million tons of chemicals in a warehouse.

That was on fire was like a multi-day blaze. And you're landing, and you're looking at the window, and you're just seeing the warehouse on fire, and then there was a car fire on the 405. Like I sold my house out of an apartment there now,

but like, as I was going to my apartment, there was a car on fire, and as I was landing, the warehouse was on fire. And you sort of think it yourself,

somebody doesn't want us here.

Like somebody wants us out. Like it almost feels like we're being evicted by nature. >> By nature? >> Well, by nature. >> Well, by nature. >> By bad decisions, by everything.

>> Which is nature. >> Yeah. >> You know, human nature is nature. >> Right. >> And the stupidity of humans is no different than the stupidity of animals when they go extinct.

“>> Do you think it comes back and he shot any chance?”

>> Something has to happen. >> Right. >> Something big has to happen. I mean, there has to be something that completely shifts the way L.A. looks at itself. You know, it has to look at itself as like a functioning business

instead of a giant scam for nonprofits. >> Right. >> There's a big part of L.A.'s problem is there's a bunch of people that are in the empathy industry. >> Yeah. >> And they're in the, you know, we're working for this,

and we're working for that, and we're in a giant chunk of their money is going to that kind of shit. >> I did a great show at Oceans in Atlantic City, which is a casino there, and the owner of that casino was talking to me, and I said, "What would fix Atlantic City?"

Because Atlantic City has some similar problems to L.A. but vastly worse. >> Yeah. >> We worse. >> And he was telling Egos, we have just a high amount of people, and a lot of social programs in one area.

She has a lot of people that are not for whatever reason, productive, and they are living in one area, and everything that comes along with that, which is crime, which is vandalism, which is, you know, disorder,

to dip varying degrees, and he goes, "You need to get rid of that in order to have a climate where businesses can thrive." >> 100% >> Which is what happened in New York, in the '90s, people hate it.

They don't want to admit it, but what happened in New York, in the '90s was like, "They did clean up a lot of the crime, and a lot of businesses then felt better about investing."

“>> 100%. >> But that's what Giuliani did.”

>> That's what he did, and he's demonized. He's demonized, he's demonized, he hasn't. He's one of those guys where if he had just done that and died, his legacy would have been amazing. But he's hung around for a while,

and he's kind of gone into some interesting tangents. So it's one of those scenarios where it's like, "How do you just clean up New York City?" And then love public life, it would have been like that guy. >> Right. >> But he hung around a little bit,

and got involved. >> I always have to hang around.

>> They always hang around, you're gonna do shows. >> That's what he's gonna do. >> Yeah, that's right. >> He was gonna do shows. >> But he did such a good thing, and then it was like, just, just exit. >> Yeah.

>> Who's also, you know, he was easy to make fun of, like the time when he was sweating, and his die, for what he did. >> Well, that's what I mean. >> He's melting, he's doing up there. >> The hair dye was kind of friendly and parking lot.

>> Don't die here. >> Yeah. >> No 100 years old, it's okay to have gray hair. It's just these guys, there's so much silliness on both sides. >> There's silliness on the left and silliness on the right. There's goofy people, because the only kind of people

that want that kind of position of power are a little goofy. >> Right. >> You don't get the best in the brightest in the most enlightened that want to be the mayor of New York City. >> No. >> Not the job. >> You've got a lot of people

that want power, and they want influence, and they.

“I think a lot of that, the AI stuff, which is very interesting,”

is starting to, I don't know how quickly it will do this, but I do think it's going to lessen some of the cultural divides, and I think it's going to potentially unite people, because I think it's going to be the next fight seems to be about surveillance, privacy, your own rights,

I feel like that will be, it might take precedent. Instead of like these cultural fights that people have been having for a while, it might be like, people might be demanding autonomy, from artificial intelligence.

>> The problem is going to be, if you can't demand,

if you don't have a voice anymore, and this is the potential nightmare scenario that we're seeing play out slowly in England. >> Right. >> In England, their freedom of speech has been suppressed to in a alarming point where people are not freaking out nearly enough about it, the amount of arrest that people get over there for

fucking retweets and retweets and likes. >> That's so crazy to me that you could get arrested for liking it tweet, arrested. >> Not even retweeting, because we all know if you like your

“piece of shit, you should retweet, we all know that, retweet it.”

>> So, and if you're going to go to jail, you might as well retweet it anyway.

>> If you're going to get locked up, what if you're retweet it is for

retweets versus a light? >> I'm sure, if you're out of my client just like this, they were confused, they hit a button. >> So, as soon as you have people that feel like the reality of the world they live in is not being represented and they're not allowed to

complain about it online, because if they complain about online, they get arrested. >> Right. >> So, right now, it's for immigration, primarily. This is the right one, but that could change, that could change. >> Well, it does seem to be that they feel that there was a decision made by

somebody that the public can only discuss issues in a very rigid way. They can only offer, like if not everyone who's talking about immigration

“is doing it in the most articulate way, but is there right to do it?”

It's their country, they should be able to say I'm worried about increased levels of immigration. >> You know, and they should be able to say that in an inadequate way, right? >> Right. >> So, what they're doing now is they're policing certain words, and I think certain ways of speaking, and they're calling a lot of things

an incitement to violence. Now, something's clearly are, and incitement to violence, but you know, the internet, people speak in a colorful way, people talk using irony. Some people are trying to be funny, some people are, so I think the way that they're doing it over there is they're basically looking at the statements of going, this person

is inciting violence and threatening the public good by what they're saying. >> Right. >> And then there's also people were getting arrested for saying that they were rape gangs, and there were, and there were, and so this new report, who released this new report

that said a quarter million people, it says UK scraps, police probes of legal social media

posts after review says response went too far, so this is April 1st, 206, but I just saw a thing about a guy getting arrested a few days ago. >> And we have rape gangs here, but ours are more successful.

“I think that's a legal social media post is which weird, so legal social media posts.”

>> Right. >> Their law is different than our law. They don't have freedom of speech over there, so excitement to violence is a violation of their law. >> Right.

>> So when it says legal, it could just be, they went too far for things like cartoons or something like that, that's not clearly not an incitement of violence. But would it find out, Jamie, what that report was about the rape gangs? >> I was just there for 21 days. I was in London, I went to Paris for a couple of days, but I was in London primarily

for 21 days, and you talk to different groups of people, and London is a global city, it's a cosmopolitan city, it's like New York, and I think one of the things that they're used to diversity there, and so they're not full on panic to about different types of people coming in. But there is undeniably a real problem outside of London, also in London, but outside

of London because a lot of the economy is stagnated, so you're bringing people in, it's not clear immediately what jobs they'll do, and a lot of their culture is very greatly from the English culture in a meaningful way, and that could be the rights of women, that could be the rights of gay people, that could be the opinions about freedom of speech, that could be freedom of religion, whatever it is, there is a cultural tension there between immigrants

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where they could vote in a mayor and then this guy says no more pride flags, no more pride flags. Yeah, they're inching towards what they would like, which is Sharia law, if you ask, for sure, most people who live in these Islamic countries, now again, if you asking them, they're probably under the rest, they're probably terrified of saying the wrong

thing. Right, so you've got to factor that in, but at least a percentage of them. There's, think, Sharia law would be a great idea.

“I think there's certainly a, yeah, I mean, and this was covered up to a lot of the grooming”

gang scandal there. Yeah, so we're looking at it right now, it says this is on National Review, the UK Terrific rape gangs, so this, but there was, is this, the rape gang inquiry report, right? So who put this report out, members of Parliament and restore Britain Party leader, Rupert Low, and so the investigators had limited power, such as inability to compel witnesses

or require sort of document production that could cooperate, some of the most heinous victims viewed with those limitations in mind, the Independent Report is a damning collection of victim testimonies that vividly portray the sexual terrorism that occurred nationwide for decades. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Yeah, this is terrible. I mean, obviously, I mean, the, I think they said it was 250,000 girls. And this was covered up because the media didn't want to inflame anger against, you know, population of, of migrants, right? Most of whom I'm sure were innocent of this, obviously, obviously, but it is something

that, you know, in a free society, everyone has the right to know if there are rape gangs in their country and who's operating them. But in that crazy, that in the under the guise of progressiveness, yeah, even able rape gangs, well, 100% it's crazy, but it's also incredibly, it's not shocking because the ends justify the means approach of politics seems to be what we're doing right now, where

is basically if the goal is to just eliminate, you know, whatever, whatever it's being

“cold, like this patriarchal, white, male, dominated society, and if you want to get rid”

of that, and that's the end goal, a lot of people ignore what happens in the middle, like a lot of people aren't super concerned about who's rights are being respected in that process because their end goal really is to kind of decrease the power of people they disagree with, you know, so I mean, it's like, you know, it's hard to look at this and not see a design, and I don't quite know exactly where the design comes from, but it's, it's

hard that this is what happens stance because everybody knows it's happening and people are afraid to talk about it, so I would imagine that at some point, you know, for example, like countries like Ireland right now that are having lots of issues over this, it's, you know, the part of the EU and the EU would set migration policy for Ireland, so the EU is

a supernatural organization that would basically say here's how many migrants you have to

admit, here's your carbon emission standards, here's your, you know, monetary policy, whatever it is, and Ireland is kind of in that, in that sense, they feel like they're losing their sovereignty, they're losing their ability to chart the course of their own country, to a supernatural organization that's, that primarily seems concerned with the economics, because

doing, a lot of people in Europe are not having children, so a lot of these economies are run by people that are not really too concerned about the cultural landscape of bringing migrants into looking more about how do we grow this economy, how do we get cheap, you know, help and

and how do we get workers and a lot of it is you're getting third world migrants, some of it's

genuine refugees for sure, but a lot of it's economic migration, people are coming for better life, hard to blame them, but do the people that live in those countries get to have a better life, that's a question, if you lived in Ireland, do you get to have a better life, do your economic prospects get to grow, do your children get to own property, do they get to have health insurance and a job and things like that, and no one seems that concerned about that, like these, these

citizens who've lived forever in these countries, whose grandparents have fought and died in

wars to secure the freedom of some of those countries, you know, Britain, you know, things like that,

those citizens seem to not be as prioritized as people coming in from other countries, and that's one of the big problems that they're having there. Well, it's really interesting to watch, because if there is a plan, I mean, it's not interesting, it's kind of horrific, but if it's interesting in both, it can be both, sure, if there is a plan, like who's plan, who's plan and who's

“benefiting from this, but why would you do this? I think it's a small group of people that”

concern themselves primarily with economic matters that don't care that nation states have cultures and histories and customs, and that doesn't really, that doesn't bother them as much, and they're basic, they're basic, you know, responses to just deal with it and to call everyone a racist who questions it or to say everyone's a jingoist or ethnocentric or anti-immigrant or whatever, they shut down those conversations. And I think it's because a lot of people believe more in a

global world, and they don't believe in a world of nation states that have their own ability to govern themselves, they want to take that power economically from those people, and then eventually they want to take it culturally and every other way. So they just want to go around the world and say, here's the way every country will look, here's the economic policy of every country, and if the people in those countries don't like it and they express that on social media,

they're going to get kicked off. And if they organize industries, they're going to use military authority to fire water cannons at them or shut them down or use gas or whatever. And if there's a genuine resistance movement to some of it, they're going to infiltrate it and turn it into some psychotic thing, which they do all the time. So it's hard to see it, not to sound like

“a paranoid nut job, but that's what I am and how I've made by living. But I think it is”

clearly someone's design, this isn't happen stands. None of this has to happen. We don't have to invade countries, sponsor, coups, steel resources, and then like drench our communities in guilt and say, now we have to bring all those people here and you have to deal with that. None of that has to happen. That's a strategy of a group of people that want to keep perpetuating this. Do you think it also has a one of the factors might be that they want conflict, the more conflict

people have in the streets, the less they're going to pay attention to what the government's doing? Well, 100%. I also think the more chaos in the street, the more likely you're going to be willing to accept new laws, new laws, new challenges, and you're going to just say, I want peace, and I don't

“care how we get it. I don't care how we achieve it. And I think that's very possible. But it does”

feel like it's on the road a little bit to where people want a uniform standard across. But as you've said earlier in this, it's very interesting because this uniform standard is supposed to include non-binary art students in Vermont and religious Muslims from North Africa.

Yeah. Good luck. But I mean, that's, but it's amazing that the people that would be most

opposed, the people that like, if you do bring those people and the people that are going to hate the most or the people that want them in the most, because the ones are most likely to say we shouldn't

And the people that want them in the most, I think, are not even the people bringing them in.

They're being used. Right. They're being their suicidal empathy. They're empathy being weaponized. It's being used. That's people. Right. So people that are manufacturing this reality are using those people. These are the same people who really don't care if people in the state over have healthcare. Right. These are people that haven't spoken to their sister in two years. Right. And they care a ton about people in the Ukraine or people that are coming over from Syria,

whatever, but we fucked up Syria. We put that guy in who used to be an ISIS. We got rid of Kadafi, their slave markets in Libya. Right. So we did that. We sent refugees all through Europe. We destabilized all of Europe. And you know, you can't take us out of it. You can't take Western powers out of it. You can't take Israel out of it. You can't take the US and Britain, France and a lot of other powers that have destabilized these countries and sent these people

flooding through Western countries, European countries. Yeah, fun. It's going to be a fun next 50 years. It's kind of crazy when you see images of France. There was a video of France from 1998 from Paris. Yeah. Versus today. They showed like 1998 and then they showed something different. It's a different thing. And you know, listen, some of that's inevitable. The world changes. Different groups of people. You know, but then you look in an island. This guy just got

“beheaded on in the street, which I'm against. And I think is wrong. And beheaded some guy, a”

migrant who had been brought in, had beheaded or damn near beheaded, tried to. And there's a video of it. And and it now belt fast. Like, you know, it's probably quite a dad now. But they were like

tremendous riots. They were like burning things down because they're like, we never got a vote on this.

We never got a vote on bringing the people in. Yeah. We never got a vote on that. No one ever asked us how much demographic change we wanted in our country and how quickly and what we were prepared to do. No one ever asked that. People don't like to admit it, but an armed population. It's much more difficult to pull things off 100%. 100%. 100%. And that's another part of the problem with UK with Ireland always places. It's very difficult to have a guy. Diversity also relies

on a very productive economy. So New York City works to do to the degree it does because people can go out and get jobs because the economic reality of the city is that it can support a lot of people coming in. There are a lot of jobs for those people. But when you have a stagnant economy, like many parts of the UK, that's a lot harder. It's a harder sell. Harder to assimilate people into a landscape where the people there are not doing well. Like the people that have lived

there forever, not thriving. They don't feel great. They're prospects economically aren't great. And now you're bringing all these new people who also are struggling to find work. So that's part of the problem. Do you think that this is being done with a strategy knowing that AI is about to

“completely disrupt society? Yes. Once I believe, this is what I believe. I believe,”

no one, for example, no one's trying to get anyone in this country to own a house. People pay lip service to the idea. But there's a lot of people now, a lot of them are my age,

who have never owned a home. And never will. And no one's trying to, no one's wants them. They

forgotten what owning a home feels like. They've forgotten what it feels like to have a yard where you can invite people over and drink a glass of wine and smoke us a car and watch a game. And they live in a little apartment. They type, you know, they're on a MacBook. They're getting radicalized in any direction. They're upset. They're on dating apps or whatever. But they, they don't feel like they have a foundational core to their life. No one has really,

really even given them the idea that they're going to get that. So I think that's just one of the things where people are, they're basically saying like, no, you don't need a house and you're not getting a house and forget what owning a house was. Like, forget that, that doesn't matter.

“And I think part of this is because they know, seemingly health care, there's no real movement”

to give anyone health care in this country. And if it is, it gets shut down immediately. So on the positive side, you might go, well, they know that AI is coming in that AI is going to do a lot of stuff with health. And it's going to help extend life spans. And but also on the negative

people owning homes and cars and things like that. We're going to have a lot of people without a steady income or they don't really know what to do. We're going to have a lot of wealth that's existed, a lot of capital, and we're going to have tremendous inequality. We're going to have a lot

“of joblessness. So for sure, I think that they're preparing for that. I mean, there's no way”

you can look at the landscape because they're selling the country off for parts. And this is both parties and this is like they're selling it off for parts. So I mean, obviously, there's something's coming, something's coming for sure. And I don't know when it is. And I'm sure the AI thinks overblown to an extent. And I think so much of our GDP depends on it that a lot of these companies are live. But anthropics are creepy. These are creepy companies. You know, I mean,

they're just creepy. Well, the amount of power that companies have in general, totally is unprecedented.

There's never been corporations. I mean, unless you go back to the East India corporation,

you know, you go back to the dead, where they had like an enormous army. Right. You know, totally. And they took over India and Pakistan. But if you look at what they're doing, it's very different than that. You know, other than the army part, what they have is robot armies. And then they have AI, which Elon just recently said is going to be like a million times smarter than the smartest human that's ever lived. Right. Like this is the goal. The goal is to create literally a digital

god. And it's going to be controlled by not us, not the collective human race. It's going to be controlled by select a few group of people. And that's weird. Like, and we're just trusting them. Well, that's why you're not getting a vote on immigration levels. You're not going to get a vote on.

“You know, like, I think the reality is that eventually they're going to go, do you want safe streets?”

You want food? Do you want a little bit of money? You got to do X, Y, and Z. You got to believe X, Y, and Z. And I mean, that seems to be coming. And it seems like if you put people in a corner and you get them scared, they'll, this is what we learned during COVID, like they will back down. They'll, they'll go along with a lot of stupid shit. They'll go to, they'll go, they'll try to find comfort. And they will listen to people that they deem to be worthy. Yeah. You know, they'll trust the government,

which is wild. The left is the people that trust the government. Well, you have all these studies that come out, you know, this is the thing. And I like, I love London. And the people they're great. And they're fun people and everything like that. But they have a, you know, because they get healthcare. They get a little more from their government than we do. There's more trust in their government that we have in our government. And there's, there's positive to that. And there's negatives.

But they, they're a society of rules and customs in order. And it is a bit different. So I think they are more likely to go along with the grand plan of the government more so than the United States, where we really do question more what's happening than people in Europe or the UK, um, overall. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. Right. They have socialized healthcare. They, uh, isn't their education paid for completely, isn't you? Yeah. They have good stuff. They have a good life.

Yeah. There's benefits to that. Totally. There's like a balance to be achieved.

Don't always say that like in this country. It's foolish that we don't have,

that we don't pay for higher education. Like the more educated people the better. Like the more the less losers the better. Part of our country is, is, you know, where we, we, we, we,

“we manufacture a lot of geniuses. We also manufacture a lot of psychopaths. That's what our culture does.”

A lot of sociability. A lot of people that don't give a fuck about anything. A lot of people that don't care about anything. Yeah. And it's, that's the thing that comes along with the gluttony, too, right? It's celebrated. And they don't even realize that that outward gluttony, it just inspires all these eat the rich people. The whole thing is out of balance. That's why we describe America. If you had to describe it in three words,

it's just out of balance. It's out of balance. It does it. It's hard because we've got 350 million

people. It's hard to bat, you know. And it's like, one of the people in Menlo Park have to do with the people in Baton Rouge have to do with the people in Canarsie. Like, I get it. So we're in place. You have all these different climates, habitats, people of different interests. But I think AI might unite people because like the idea of this as such a powerful force. If people don't start getting cognizant of it, eventually, and start, you know, talking about regulating it or anything,

you know, I do think it's, it is going to be, you know, a very strange time if people, you know,

It's not going to be, like, whatever is coming over the next 20 years. No one is predicting it.

I get the feeling when you see a lot of these tech guys start adopting Christianity.

“I'd like Peter to like the whole antichrist thing. Yeah. He does a whole thing. What is he doing?”

He gave a fucking lecture on the antichrist. He's a bunch of lectures on the antichrist. He's fascinated with it. And a lot of those guys are are are moving into this interesting area of this is, this is God wants this. Like, Jede Vance, who's not the worst person, obviously. And I think he's the sainest voice in that administration about the Iran war, for sure. I think he's, by far,

one of the only people in there going, let's comment down, which is why a lot of the big donors are are slinging mud at him. You know? But again, it's just he just released a book about faith and reconnecting with his faith. I'm sure it's a lovely book. Haven't read it. Fun Beatreen.

Jede Vance is reconnecting with his faith. Great. Inspiring, amazing. We'll get to it.

Haven't read it. We'll get to it. Top tier. But, you know, it's also interesting because like some of his donors are huge tech guys. And it's, it's all of these world existing together where you have this world of people who are trying to build a God and the world of people who are ready to believe in a God and trying to get all of those people in the same tent. That's interesting. It is. You know, imagine if that's where God comes from. If this is a natural process where

human beings and their curiosity and insatiable need for technological innovation. But then what happens

“once we get gone, like once we just, let's say we bring this God in, then what happens?”

Nirvana. Nirvana. Yeah. We all merge. It becomes perfect. Interesting. So we all merge and that's perfect. Time. Don't worry about it. We're going to merge with the machine. Interesting. Because people do believe that. At one point in time, caveman had to be looking at the wheel going, man, I see where this is going to go. Right. This is going to fuck my whole gig up. Whole gig is making weapons on a stone and tying them to a stick with

tendons and then chasing an animal and sparing them. And now these motherfuckers invented guns, and these motherfuckers invented arrows and with every progression of tech, like your bow and arrows technologies used everything. Horse riding, figuring out how to ride a horse. Well, it's like new innovation. Right. Right a horse now. Now you can move a lot faster. You can get a lot of things done. Some guy figured out a wheel. All right, drag the wheel, put a card on it. Now we can carry stuff with us.

Right. More than the stuff that you could put on a horse. Right. You could get a couple horses. They pull a wagon. Right. Right. Hey, this guy figured out a fucking engine. We don't need horses anymore. Right. Right. Let's make the whole ground everywhere hard. So we could roll around with these machines with internal combustion engines. And then it just keeps going and keeps going and keeps going. And then one day it's unrecognizable. Just like it is now. If you showed Australia pithicus,

Manhattan in 2026, they'd be like, they would freak out. They'd probably start screaming. They wouldn't know what to do. They'd be horrified. But do you think, like, if we showed

“Peter Teele 2050, he'd go, no, that's it. Like, that's what I want. Like, whatever 20, like,”

do you think the guy's now have a real idea of what it's going to be? No. I think there's, I think there's a lot of guess where. I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's possible to know what these things are going to do when they become sentient. I don't think it's possible.

If Elon is correct, if Elon's correct, and there's something that's a million times smarter than

human beings. And somehow or another is why would we let people govern? Why would we let people build that stupid fucking rail station in California that it's cost? How much money? And it's produced what? How much, how much drag was done? Why would they let people do that? When you get to have AI do that? But if something's a billion times smarter than human beings, it's going to go, we're not building a rail station for these fat fox. You know, I mean, seriously, it's going to go,

why would we build a rail station for these people? So they can get trunk and go fight each other? Well, how about we get rid of them? Well, maybe it's, we don't even need to do that because we can make you travel instantaneously from here to there, create little mini wormholes all over the country. You don't need a car anymore. You just press a button and all of a sudden, you're at Starbucks. You know, we'll do something very strange. I just look at technology and I go, it's made the world

better in many ways. But in a lot of ways, it hasn't. And it did stop around 2014, 2015. A lot of the new things started that came in, made the world to me, very impersonal corporate sterile and cold. Yeah. And the experience is that you get now, like I, you know, there was like, if you, you know, I went with a friend of mine, we were in a McDonald's and like you order

an order to McFlurry, some woman screaming out of, where's the receipt? What's the receipt? He's like,

nine, he's like, what? There's a weirdness when you take people out of everything.

“You tell people out of everything and then you don't also, they have no purpose, right?”

Especially, you consider the high number of unemployed people, check down people, and then people that have whatever their job is has nothing to do with what they enjoy. So, if they just do the job and then afterwards they're just watching television all day, that's not a lot of people. But he's watching their phone playing video games. There's a lot of people that don't have any purpose, right? They don't have a feeling of purpose. They don't have a

thing that they're connected to. But some experiences are much worse now than they were. Sure, before they were digitized. Like, I do think there was just pressing a button and getting something on Amazon as much easier. But there was something nice about going out in December during the Christmas season and like going to different places and seeing people and like the struggle of like getting the thing you want. There was something about you were spending energy walking around.

You get a couple of coffee. You see people, if we destroy all of that, what happens to the human psyche? That's my question. Well, if we had an anxiety meter, if we could see like an anxiety, like levels of measurable anxiety over time, I guarantee you from like whatever the age of the internet kicked in. So it's like what 94 or something like that? I think it probably slowly ramped up until social media came up and then it's probably significantly higher than it's ever been

before, without real threats. Totally. Like just regular anxiety from reading things on your phone and interacting with things online. Well, people are very attached to this idea that they have to weigh in on everything that they have to have in a fully formed opinion on everything and the horrors of the world are on full display in front of them all the time. Yeah. And they need to then not only view them, which is scarring in and of itself, but then they need to contextualize them

“in a way that makes sense, which I think is also another level of stress. Am I a good person?”

Am I, do I have the right thoughts about this thing? Am I being, you know, so that to me is also

another level of stress, we're like, you would have never had to. There were people when I grew up

that just were really good at one thing and they didn't need to have an opinion on something that was happening, you know, all right, rolled away. They didn't have the knowledge. And they were forced into it. They weren't forced into expressing that opinion. Yeah. And they were able to live in a very in a much simpler way and a much happier way with real genuine connections to people. And I think the fact that nobody feels like they're able to do that now, like the generation that's

coming up, you know, the younger people, they seem better off, like the zoomers or whatever they are, they seem to be a little, they have a little dose of nihilism, but I think it's appropriate or a little, you know, a good sense of humor. They're skeptical. They're a little cynical. They've seen

“all of these institutions, you know, turn out a lot of garbage. And I think they're, they're into,”

you know, some of the crypto stuff, they're into like, you know, they're their self-starters. They are, they're not institutionalists. Everyone I grew up with and the generation directly under me. They're all institutionalists. They believe very strongly that knowledge is given through an approved, whether you're, and why you, or whether it's the state department, or whether it's a board, or whether it's, or whether it's a nonprofit, the commission to study,

that proved the thing, a lot of these kids do not think for themselves. They, and they're not kids from the 30s, by the way. And they're in the 30s or 40s. They don't think for themselves, they've been taught that thinking for themselves is bad. It's racist. Or it's, it can lead you down a road that you don't want to go on. It's, you know, whatever. It's misogynist. It's homophobic. Whatever questions you're asking me, why do the podries get? Why do the podries have to

wear gay uniforms? Like, that doesn't make any sense to me. Like, as a gay person, I never said,

why I need the podries to be gay. Why do the podries get? How does the pod, was the podries uniform look like? Well, they're making them wear, like, gay things on the uniform. Like, pride stuff? It's like pride stuff. I don't think it's like a deal to one their head, but I think it's like pride stuff is going to play in Dearborn. It's not going to, it's not going to go well, but it's like, why is City Bank gay? Why is Chase, why is Chase gay? What is it? Why does this help

anyone? That a corporation is, is trance. Why is Chibani yoga trance? What's the point of this? I don't understand, is this get people healthcare? Does this make people happy? Does this saddest fall

don't understand and it makes more, more people angry. That's why gay marriage is lost 11 points

in support. More people are annoyed. They're like, we're all cool with however people want to live their lives. A lot of most people are, but they're like, why is my bank gay? When did my bank come out

“is gay? And like, I'm okay with it, but could somebody have told me, like, what are we doing?”

I don't, this doesn't make anybody's life better. It is the, it is just virtue signaling horseshit that ends up doing the exact opposite of what they want. They think it increases acceptance, it decreases it because you're shoving a worldview down someone's throat. And at the end of the day, it's like, if I went to a restaurant, for example, I have no problem with Scientology on record. By the way, I like it. I like cults. I like cults. Children have too many rights. Put them on that

boat, whatever you do. See or make them work. Don't rape them, but make them swap the deck. Whatever they do on that boat. And I don't have a problem with Scientology. And I don't like the people who leave Scientology and then rat on it after it got them all these movie parts. I think that's fucked up too. I think it's fucked up. I think they're rats. And I knew you've had some of them on,

“sorry. But I think they're rats. If you are, do something for 30 goddamn years and get rich in”

famous, shut your mouth. Have the dignity to go to your house and shut your mouth about it? Don't then try to go on a, your new era is that you're going to die on everybody in this thing that made you rich. Anyway, but it's just an aside. It's just an aside. It's truly, but it's way, it feels like it's a stop, Tom Cruise. Yeah, hangs in there. Tanks in. Can you imagine how gross that would be? And there. How disgusting would it be if

Tom Cruise went out and he's like, you know, Scientology is really be a show to fuck up your top gun. Your top gun, this worked. Whether you're gay or not, they covered it up. They covered it up. You, you said, you did something wrong. They said, well, audit ear will put you in the box. You're fine. Give us some money. Live on this mansion. It's all fine. But if I went to by bank and it was just all Scientology for the month of June, I would go, this is a lot. Do you

know what I mean? So to me, I think it's like, this weird aesthetic politics that people have where they just, they need to pin ribbons on themselves and go, I'm a good person. I have no problem with the polyamorous orgy happening at chase or whatever. Just shut up. This whole country right now is being torn apart by people who need to feel like they're good people. And they need to project their life onto other people just to just live in that lift. People

disagree with you. That's, I have good friends. I disagree with like on fundamental things. Foundational things. And I don't care. I don't care because I think they're funny. I think they're lives are funny. They're bad people. Many of my friends are not good people. I wouldn't even introduce them to other people I care about. But they entertain me. And that used to be okay. Used to be able to go, I like that guy. He's entertaining. People go, he is crazy.

He was in jail. You go, eh, you always minimize. You minimize that. You go,

sure he was, maybe, I don't know what happened between him and her. Someone fell down his stairs.

“He's fun sometimes. And you should be able to do that. Not everyone's going to agree with you.”

Not everyone's going to agree with you. It's okay. You got to life is too short. No, yeah, you want that. You don't want everybody to agree with you. No. You want to live in a world of texture. Yes. Yeah, you want to live in a world. You want to have the joey deezes of the world. Totally. You want to have some wild people out there. You're fun. And that the problem with the generation under me is they're all very like this. And they all

went to the same liberal arts schools that have taught them like this orderly way of processing information. And they're all afraid to like they like say things. They see them. And if they're very, well, well, the, well, the rape can't their gangs, they're raping. Well, that's bad. But there's a lot of, I don't know what's been proven. And there's a lot of racism. Like,

if they just always, they're so afraid of having an independent thought. Because they've

been programmed. They're entire lives. And don't realize it. They've been programmed. They're entire lives to believe a certain set of things. And their self worth depends on those things mattering. Yeah. The school you went to, the internship you got, the corporation who's did you have to suck sometimes literally to stay in it. That is where they derive their self

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for podcast listeners. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, um, it's very confusing for young people. You know,

“because the whole thing acts like a religion. It acts like a cult and you have to kind of go along”

with every aspect of it or you'll be excommunicated. Yeah. You'd be kicked out just like you kicked out of Scientology. You get kicked out and if your life is and it's sterile and it's corporate and it's boring and and that to me is one of my biggest problems with with with a lot of people that I speak to is that they seem genuinely afraid to to use their mind for more than, you know,

what the allotted functions are. I mean, afraid to express themselves. Yeah. Yeah. There's

no entertainment thoughts in their own head. They want to avoid the punishment. Yeah. You know, it's scary punishment. Have you seen this, uh, new army hammer movie that is out now? No, but some vigilante movie. He's great. Fan of him. Big fan of him. Think he's great. Love everything he's doing and I like it. I like you can't get canceled. People come right back. Well, I don't know if he's necessarily coming back. I mean, I mean, this movie is going to bring him back. I should

say, I mean, what did he say? I mean, he said he wanted to eat girls. He was because he wanted to

“eat a couple of people. You know, is that a problem? But is it real? Is it just crazy talk?”

Even if it's crazy. Well, even if it was, is it consensual or not? I mean, is it just saying wild things? I like what is it? Listen, what is it? He's fantasy was that he wanted to be accountable. That was his like fantasy. That was his kink. Now, it was fake. But if it, if he was in a situation where could've been real, yeah, he would have tried a heart. If on the hammer had the money to arrange this and some people in our country do, if he had the money to arrange it, he's tried a heart

1000%. And by the way, does it make me hate him? Does it make me hate him? As long as a person was

dead already. I'm against it. I would never do it. But if you told me, this is how open I am to

different people. If you told me army hammer, there was somebody died and there was a heart in army time, a hammer tried a little bit of the heart. I'd go, hey, fine, live in my life. Do you know the story of General Buck naked? No. General Buck naked is a guy in Liberia. So Liberia is a

“part of Africa. I don't want to fuck this up. So let's be, let's check on this. I think what happened”

Liberia is, they released a bunch of slaves from the United States and sent them to Liberia, like after slavery was abolished. Right. And I think Liberia has had a series of civil wars, like really crazy brutal ones. And in one of them, there's this guy named General Buck naked and vice-covered this guy. They interviewed him. And essentially now, he's a priest. He's a preacher. And he gave his love to Jesus Christ and now he's saved. But back then,

"Well, good for he would talk about how he would go into war completely naked and then they would kidnap children of the opposing army and cut their heart out and eat it for protection." That's certainly an extreme way to do it. So he did that. But then he found Jesus. So it's okay. Well, it is certainly better. And that's, um, with my ins, kind of do that. It was a human sacrifice. They did a lot of human sacrifice. Yeah. Along with the Aztecs. What happened with Liberia?

Is that an accurate depiction? I don't want to fuck this up. So Liberia was established in 1822 by the American Colonization Society as a refuge for formally enslaved and freeborn black Africans to relocate to Africa. There it is. Over several decades, roughly 16,000

the nation later faced its own internal scandals regarding forced labor and human exploitation. Yeah. Interesting. Uh-huh. Um, see if you can find that general button naked guy though. This, this, this, this whole story is fucking crazy. Is this it? Okay. Cheese. Yeah. Formed his own militia of several dozen fighting, uh, several dozen fighters known as the naked base commandos, or but naked brigade. Most of whom were children, as young as nine, operating under the

Monrovia area with his unit, uh, had his name, Blah, he, blah, blah, blah. I'm not sure how to say his name. Became known as wearing only shoes and magic charms. And eventually adopted the nom-de-gure general button naked. His fighters followed his patterns of dress, which, uh, in line with his distorted emulation of, uh, animist tradition, believe he could, believe could make one immune to bullets. To find his wartime activities, he and secure a steady supply of drugs for his fighters.

Blah, he allegedly traded locally mind diamonds and gold to Mexican drug cartels and exchange for guns and cocaine. Let's fucking go. You can scripted many of his fighters in according to some accounts, lace the food. He fed them with cocaine, along with showing them Jean-Claude Van Dam films and, uh, to, uh, explaining that to them, that killing people was a game and an effort to uproot the fear of death. Uh, his fighters, he and his fighters perpetrated numerous atrocities,

although the exact extent of the crimes they committed have been subjected to dispute. frequently discussed the alleged atrocities he perpetrated, which in according to Blah, he, including murders, cannibalism, and human sacrifice. He has repeatedly estimated that the

naked-based commandos were ultimately responsible for 20,000 deaths, a claim which was come

under criticism. Yeah. Yeah. He's alive now, and he's religious now. Yeah. Have them on,

“and I bet he's a lovely person. That's the thing. You should have them on.”

By the way, I would hear his open invitation. He's, I open invitation. Look, it's good. Jesus. He's a lead of full life, and there's something about someone who has lead of full life. This man has lead of full life. There he is. It looks like people just from us naked. Wow. Crazy. It's, imagine seeing a dude naked was dong flopping, running out you with an AK-47 with kids blood all over his face. I mean, that's, I mean, that's disturbing,

but I imagine that there are very rich people in our country seeing that and paying good money to see it. One of the things that we were talking about before the show started. Yeah. We were out in the hallway. We were talking about how there's a giant chunk of the world that's fucked. Yeah. And what's coming in the England, it's not like, it's unusual for other parts of the world.

“You know, if you go to Karachi, that's what life is chaos. Yeah. And just chaos is making its way”

into these protected bubbles. And that's what's freaking people out. We live in a very privileged, even even the poorest and the worst, which is obviously, you know, it's not to minimize their

struggles. But if you go to any of those third world countries, you're very aware of how

privileged you are to live in a Western country. And, you know, it also makes a lot of sense why the people in those third world countries would want to leave them and go to other places for opportunity. And I think immigration had a lot of positive impacts on America and it's had a lot of positive impacts on Britain and other countries. And it's not, it's not the idea that immigration is all bad or all good. It's the idea that like you have to do things a certain way

because, you know, societies are fragile. This is what we're learning. We're learning the societies are more fragile. When I grew up, that wasn't a common thought that our society was very fragile. Right. We thought it was very strong. Right. We actually thought nothing could break us. And then you look at a couple of years of a pandemic and most of the downtowns of the American cities don't look the same. Commerce has changed in a dramatic way. The Iran war proved that,

you know, military or military is obviously brave men and women. They're amazing. But like the changing nature of warfare has made military campaigns very difficult. It's hard to look at this Iran war as a victory. It's almost impossible unless you're completely dishonest. I don't think

“anyone is looking at it as a victory. So I think our vulnerability in, you know, two”

threats foreign and domestic, we're more aware of that now than we have ever been how fragile

societies are. So when you demographically change a society very quickly, which has never happened

to a new cultural and and sometimes economic reality. That's a very disruptive thing and society

is very fragile. And you've got to be very careful about how you alter and change a society

“because if you do it too quickly, there's a tremendous backlash. And you have to make sure that”

people want it changed that people are on board with it. Not everyone, no one's on board with everything. But like if you went to a lot of people in these countries that live in the bigger cities, they would probably be very pro immigration. And because immigration has a lot of clear benefits to them, they get food delivered all the time. They have access to a wide variety of goods and services that immigrants bring. A lot of them are awesome, a lot of great food, you know. So obviously,

but again, if you went out into the suburbs and you went out into areas where the economies

have stagnated, areas where maybe you've had scandals like this, grooming scandal and things like that, Sweden, whose crime rate is skyrocketed because you've brought in a lot of people from other

“places that are selling drugs and not all of them, obviously. But like if you look at that and”

those people have a much more negative view of it because they don't connect the benefits of it because they don't, they don't feel them in their life. Right, they were live in pretty sweet. They were live in good. They were live in pretty sweet. They're riding a fucking bicycles and eating hair rings. They can save out there. Pretty safe and doing what they wanted to do. And then,

you know, you have this influx of people, you now have real poverty, you now have a lot of people.

So brought in people that came from a war torn country. Yeah. And not everyone's going to be general butnaked, who becomes a Christian pastor and is probably lovely now. You probably seem in H.E.B. you're like sweetheart. Eight if you people, children maybe, but now it's better. That guy, not everyone's going to convert. Not everyone's going to be, you know, you're going to bring people in that are people of products to an extent of their environment, like we all are.

So the idea that like, you know, women of less rights in these countries. So the courtship rituals in these countries are different. The familial relations are different. That's just the way it is. So, and a lot of people there like that. So, you know, why would, why would those beliefs and systems of change just because you happen to be living in Ireland? Right. Why would you think Irish women or British women would necessarily or inherently get more respect than your wife's

daughter of sisters, whatever? And I'm not saying that it's all like throughout the entire Islamic world. I think there's a lot of diversity in the Muslim world. And there are lots of countries where there's arguments of women are safer than they are in America. But there's a lot of countries where that's not the case. And women have far fewer rights and it's pretty barbaric. And I don't know why those attitudes would change when they are just in a different physical location.

The spectacular bizarreness of it is that the really kind left wing people who oppose toxic masculinity, right, oppose this sort of society that's, that we're talking about this, this male dominated society. Like you're inviting in something that literally has that

“as it's doctrine. Well, they think it can be tamed. So, here's the thing with those people. They”

love a challenge. This is the I can fix him version of it. And to an extent, cultural attitudes do change over time. People do assimilate to certain practices. That's not a completely ridiculous thing to think. But they really believe that once all of these people come to these countries and see how great it is to be a childless 40-year-old woman working in data entry at a large faceless corporation that's gay on Pride Month. The corporation goes gay. And when they

see how happy she or he or they is living in a society where you don't own anything, you know what's interesting about family. I just spoke to a comedian in one on a world toward he was in India and he was talking about how poor people in India don't live on the street they live in slums. It's better to live in slums than the street. Because a lot of poor people are with their families and they won't cast their family out. Family in America almost means

like nothing. Like we've kind of we've everything such an individual pursuit that family means nothing.

views on certain things. So we haven't spoken in a little bit. My cousins getting married and I told

I have a therapist now that I've had for six months who I don't know if it's good or I don't know if you ever know if a therapist is good or not. And I told my therapist you know my dad and his wife are going to be there and I haven't spoken to them but I love my cousin and I want to support her marriage and want to go. And my therapist goes well you don't have to go. My therapist goes if you feel like it's going to make you happy go. So therapy in our country

has become a way to kind of enable like sick people to just become selfish psychopaths. And family in America means almost nothing and it is reinforced how little family means

because like doctors will tell you yeah fuck it your father who cares. So it's basically a thing

“where like I think when you go to these other countries and you realize how deeply rooted a lot of”

things are in family and culture and tradition and then we come from a country where like almost very little is. I'm not saying people don't have great families here but like you know America is about you and it's not about if you don't agree with your sister fucker if your mother disagrees with you block her that's our country and in other countries that's unheard of like that's unheard of like it doesn't happen and you know the comedian was explaining to me like in India there's

there's like a lot less of a drug problem in certain areas and he would and he was wondered why

any goes well people don't want to do drugs to like disgrace their family even poor people even poor

people feel like I don't want to be a drug addict my family's going to think bad about that. Whereas here there's people that'll shoot up in front of the parents you know what I mean like so it's just a different it like it's it's culturally we've gotten to this point where people are having less children family means very little so then what is replace that it's clearly the state and corporations and ideologies so they replaced families and communities with the ideologies

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“So I think that like that world we have a pretty secular world what is that?”

That is so interesting C.B.D. Interesting. Interesting. I thought it was something that not to C.B.D.V. I thought it was somebody gave you something that's like it's you're good about to transcend or something. Oh no I thought you're like it's DMT. Imagine I'm bored with you. I'm going somewhere because you're seeing it. What's the last time you've done DMT? It's been a while.

Interesting. Should I do it? Should we all do it? Yeah. I'm going to have a cigarette. Are you thinking about it? I'm thinking about maybe doing it. A lot of people have asked me about it. It's crystaly. That's pretty nice. That's pretty nice. You'll think years ago was an awesome documentary. You know this Andrew Gallemorgod you know what he's doing? So he's what is his exact discipline? He's just likeologist. He's doing these things in a country where

it's legal where you fly there and you do a five hour DMT experience like intravenous. He's a chemical pharmacologist, neurobiologist and a writer. One of the most worlds leading experts on psychedelics. It's a very interesting guy and he's creating this place. I forget what it's called. Do you remember the name of the place? A lot of people know to ayahuasca. That's an orally active version of DMT. This thing seems a little crazier because they can kind of regulate the dose much better

and they can keep you there for a long period of time. Illucius. Okay. So I like the Illucinian

“mysteries from the from ancient Greece. So this place it's in Bakuya. Am I saying that right?”

And the Caribbean in March of 2026. And the aim is to study DMTX and DMT entities and attempt to communicate with these entities. So one of the things that he's saying. So he was just on someone's podcast.

was that they keep going to the same place. They're actually trying to create a map of whatever this experience is. So instead of doing it like an ayahuasca ceremony or doing it like your smoking DMT and some sort of a psychedelic ceremony with your friends and it's a 15-minute experience. Instead of that, they're having repeated experiences in the same environments like there's actually a place that you can go. And by regulating the dose, somehow another over prolonged period of time,

it allows you to maintain this state and keep entering deeper and deeper into whatever the

“fuck this is. But it seems to be mapable. Okay. It's the basement. That's what it was. So it is”

AJ from the Y files, which is an awesome YouTube show if you've never seen it before. And so he's talking

about it doesn't take you to somewhere new, it unlocked what's always there. These guys are they're trying to develop like maps of what this is. So they keep experiencing, they're they're charting out different entities that you experience and there's a bunch of different ones that you experience and one of them I've seen multiple times is gestures. Interesting. And these bizarre looking psychedelic gestures. Interesting. I wonder if they were the original gestures. I wonder if like the reason why

gestures dressed the way they do with these dangling things off their heads because this is what you experience in the psychedelic state and they're trying to recreate it. But what they've done

when I've done it is mock me and make me realize that I'm taking myself seriously. Like one time

there was like like fractal there's millions of them. And they were all given me the finger like this. Wow. And I was like and it was a and I said I'd go oh I take myself too seriously they go yeah and they're just like that. That's it. It was like there's little corrections of your psyche that take place during these experiences. Interesting. It's very weird. I'm scared to do it. Well I'm scared I'll go in and it'll be fractals of JD Vance yelling at George Soros.

“Yeah it's old JD Vance. You need to learn about AI. No I don't know. I find it fascinating.”

Well it is. It's definitely fascinating. Chase Hughes is just in the podcast and he did it somewhere in the United States where they did some five hour DMT experience and he was you know it's like changes. Whatever you are now is a totally different version of who you were before you had that experience. Interesting. Which is like life overall over you know day after day, month after month, week after week, year after year you become a different thing. You're a

different person than you used to be. Sure. Sometimes an experience like a psychedelic experience can make it abrupt and then you instantaneously become a different person. It's so it's so fascinating because we are having all these conversations about aliens and entities and demons and whatever. I think it's connected. Yeah. I think what these psychedelic things allow you to do is experiencing things. You're experiencing things that are already there. That have been there

all the time. You just lack the ability to see them. You're tuning into it pharmacologically. Like they're changing the chemistry of your brain and it's not an alien chemical. That's the nutty part about it. DMT is produced by the human body. It's produced in the brain. It's produced in the liver. When you need the releases when you die? I don't know. It's very poorly understood. There's been some work done on it. One of the big ones was Rick Straussman. He wrote a book called

DMT to spirit molecule and he did this. It was really kind of brilliant. He had an FDA study that he got, this is all like government approved study on psychedelics under the guys. He wants to find out how bad they are for you. Andrews. So he told him we want to study the dangers of these drugs. That's right. I got all the money. Yeah. And so the rights is book like this. It's amazing. And by doing that and then studying the cottonwood research foundation, they're studying

where DMT is coming from. So the thought was that it's coming from the pineal gland. So the pineal gland is like literally a third eye in the middle of your head. But now they think it's coming

from the whole brain. They don't really, the human body produces. That's the most important part.

So the human body produces this of the most potent of all psychedelic chemicals that transports

“you into another world. Like how weird is it that the body produces a gateway to some other place?”

Now whether it's perceived or a hallucination, the experience is the same. So you can get hung up all the time on the, oh, you're just seeing things that aren't there. These are visions. Okay, maybe, maybe what you're doing is experiencing something that's real. Like it might not be something that you could put on a scale. It might not be something that you can measure with a ruler. But it doesn't mean it's not real. And I think we are very arrogant in our assumptions that we have an

and the mitochondria, and then subatomic particles, and like what this, just the reality that we've

observed is so fucking bizarre. The idea that we know what's real and what's not real. And you can say, oh, it's just the whole hallucination. This is the reality. As you go to Tim Hortons, you get yourself a donut and you're going to work. Right. No, I think I have a feeling that what that experiences is you being able to see something that exists around you. Well, a lot of people are very hopeful I wasn't one of them per se, but this idea that like we're on the edge of some

disclosure that the government was going to start telling us things about extraterrestrials and

“like remember that? Well, the creepiest one that's going around was that they had brought together”

one surpassters to talk to them about disclosure, because disclosure is going to disrupt

the fabric of society. So greatly, the question was, what were they going to tell them? And so

what I have been hearing from people that supposedly know things about UFOs was that they were told that religion was created by aliens to keep people in line and that humans are the product of accelerated evolution. And they needed some sort of an origin story that made sense with rules and morals and ethics and guidelines to follow and something to worship because without that people are lost. And so that these aliens are created that. Well, please let Trump say that in a press conference.

He's the president to say that. Yeah, I got to talk to them. He's the president with them. To get on there and go, guys, listen, just, we don't know what's going on. There's traits of our moves to rope and their clothes are open or clothes who gives them fucking more. Anyway, there is no God.

You were all created by aliens and you were told a bunch of lies about it. Good luck. Keep going

to work. Markets up. Straight, straight up and markets up. It's not even that there is no God. It's a God story that you've been told. It's, it's, it's formulated in a way for your tribal primate brain to accept and understand. Right. And that there's probably a true story to all of it. If you go back far enough and if you got the actual events that they were trying to lay out, there's too much of, too much of stuff that's in the Bible that like is that historically

verifiable. Totally. But do you think they didn't tell people that because they thought it would

“be too disruptive? Well, here's the thing. There's a lot of stuff that, you know, what, when you”

talk about the Bible, right, you're talking about a series of stories. Sure. Especially when you get to the Old Testament. It's a series of stories. And some of these stories aren't in the Bible that were a part of the religious canon of the day. And one of them is the Book of Enoch. So Anna Paulina Luna told me about, she's like, you really have to read that. And I was like, okay, like she was so adamant about him. I'm like, okay, let me read it. So I listened on tape in the

sauna, which is the perfect way to do it. I'm listening to audio book. It's 195 degrees. Okay. I'm sweating. I'm sweating. I'm dying in there. And I'm listening to this fucking crazy account. Right. That is in the same dead sea scrolls as they found the Book of Enoch. The same collection of these religious texts. And it's all about how the watchers came down and made it with the daughters of man and chose them as wives. And then created this race of beings called the

Nephilim, which were giants that ruled the earth. Like this is in the Bible. They talk about the Nephilim in the Bible. They talk about Enoch. Like he's referenced in the Bible. Right. But the Book of Enoch, the stories that are in the Book of Enoch are fucking bananas, like completely bananas. And the only reason why it's not in the Bible, a bunch of rabbis decided that it didn't align with the Torah, the Torah, the Talmud, I forget which one. But they decided

like this this this contradicts some of the stories that are in other religious texts. So we're going to keep that one out. Interesting. It was a collection of these things that's all together

“who are these rabbis. Exactly. Right. I mean who are all these people that wrote these things down?”

You know, I have this bit where I read out of the Book of Ezekiel and there's like the hilarious parts of the Book of Ezekiel. And then there's also parts that sound like they're talking about a UFO. Like these profound experiences. And then other things we're talking about a prostitute. It's very funny. Right. But this whole thing is a bunch of people's interpretations of stories written down past down generation to generation, written largely intact once it was an original

piece. So like they found the Book of Ezekiel in the Dead Sea Scrolls. And it's identical to the Book of Ezekiel that is a thousand years newer. So that was older than the Book of Ezekiel that they had by a thousand years. The oldest one they ever found. And it was a verbatim. Right. So they once they got these stories down. They they wrote them over and over and over again. And like priests would

things over and over again. It was part of the practice. And some of those in some subterranean part of the government, they know something or many things that they're not going to tell people because it would be disturbing or disturbing the story about Jimmy Carter. The story about Jimmy Carter

“was Jimmy Carter, I believe in 1969. He had some sort of a very strange UFO experience that was”

very real to him, very bizarre, saw something. Yeah. And part of his thing was once he gets into office, he wants to tell people. The story is that he was briefed. They explained to him something about the reality of the UFO experience, like what it really is. And he was crying that he wept openly. So what could that mean? Like what would that mean? Well, he was kind of shy. He was, yeah,

he was a bitch. And this habitat for humanity, I never understood. I thought it was,

I think he's a genuinely good person. Of course he was. He was a little talented. Yeah, he was never enriched himself. But he was also if he read books about him, he was kind of an operator too. Uh-huh. It was kind of it. He was into the peanut stuff, right? He was a peanut farmer or something. Yeah, you know, he was nobody gets to be the, yeah, he was sweeter, sweetest, sweetest. Like one of the sweetest of the president. He was still the president. But so they, who is doing this explain? It's just

the men and black people from the, the depths of racism, rock or shine, military, or whatever, the hell they are. What they could be doing is covering up years of lying to Congress and misappropriation of funds for all these black ops programs. And the way they can get out of jail. It's because they go and, yeah, they go and tell the government. Oh, yeah, by the way, we lied to Congress for 15 years. There's no solid verifiable evidence of Jimmy Carter cried. Of course there's no saw. Solid up. Jamie stopping in Ark. He's an arc.

Because he was a fool. He's a fool. He's a fool. The Carter cried over you of those stories based on second or third hand anecdotes. Those are my favorite. And it's not confirmed by Carter himself or primary official sources. I think it's true. I think it's true, too. About his 1969 site and Carter described seeing a strange light, but did not mention crying or being emotionally shattered by it. No, but I

“don't think that's what they're saying. They're saying he was emotionally shattered by the disclosure.”

Right after he got a little briefing. He's got to live with that knowledge. So he just got to go round now and Richard Dolan, who's by far one of the best guys to read about about UFOs and UAPs. Very balanced guy. And like very evidence-based guy. He includes a lot of crazy stories,

but he never goes along with them. Yeah. But Richard Dolan's really good. He's got a bunch of books.

So I don't know if it's true. Is this podcast? Is the Jake Barber guy real? He's the guy that said that he actually had to move a UFO, right? With a helicopter? Yes. I haven't talked to him. I was just watching it, but it's too long. He's UFO guys. It's all three or four out like it's not. Jessie Michaels does a lot of very in-depth ones with these guys. He has long. But the good thing about that is if someone's like really full of shit after a couple hours, you kind of say,

you see tendencies that leave you there, they exaggerate or make things up or they leave stuff out or whatever it is. But there's something's going on, right? There's something that people keep seeing. There's enough radar information. There's an up video that doesn't make any sense.

We never found out what those drones were. Remember that? They're all around the base. Is it new

jersey and stuff like that? Yeah, it was crazy. People were scared to fly. People say it's a domestic,

“it was domestic. It was us. That's what I've heard. But then, you know, could not China?”

Could be China flexing and pulling a dick out. Right. Check out what we have, Motherfuckers. Who knows? Who knows? But there was a lot of things that those things were doing that we don't know that they can do. One of the things, like they were flying for hours at a time. And so what's the fuel source? Because it's not batteries. Downed US pilot reported seeing a rainy and drone swarm in jellyfish formation. Well, they're probably getting drones from, you know, China. China Russia.

Yeah, yeah. So they get it. So the highest end of high end government drones that we don't know about who knows what those fucking things can do. Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs. One of the sources familiar with the pilots witness a count told CNN, real alien shit. Another source told CNN, the pilot described witnessing a minefield of drones in the air. Holy shit. When did this happen? 13 hours ago,

this was posted. So 13 hours ago, this F 115 got down when he's talking and they're reporting. And it's, I don't, the actual. Bro, how nuts is that? They got taken out by alien drones in April. Whoa. So he ejected from the aircraft. The Iranian drones hovering in the air moving as one in a formation that resemble a jellyfish. Fuck dude. Yeah, I mean, so there is a, there is a chance

black projects. They have these secret defense projects. And they're saying it's extraterrestrial.

I think if I was running an undercover operation for as many years as these people probably have been doing. And with Eric Weinstein, thanks. He thinks it's like a separate branch of physics. He said, he thinks there's a bunch of physicists. So where did they get this? This is the story. Yeah, we went into the crazy invasion to get these guys back. Oh, this is those guys. Oh, this is how they got taken out. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Right. Right. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Use the heart. The heartbeat thing. That was the whole.

“Right. That's what they said. Yeah. Yeah. So the heartbeat thing was the thing that they said”

that they were able to locate this guy's heartbeat. His, his very unique heartbeat in the mountains were his hiding. Wow. And everybody was like, well, that's bullshit. And like, I don't know. I don't know. And it's based on some sort of quantum something or another. What is it called again? And then the fucking White House said, did you see that today? What is that? What? They posted something on their uppuff. That they're going to announce them about quantum computing. Oh, crush.

Do you think that? God's been there before. They're making a joke about Q with it. That's sort of why I asked if you guys had seen that. What's the joke about Q? I can, I don't find the post. Okay. I think they have drones that move like UFOs. I think for sure. I know. Where are they getting this technology? I don't know. Do you think it's possible extraterrestrials are giving us technology? It is possible. So the reason White House will be

Q posting today. What? They're just trolling and haunting. Yeah. All the way down and it says. And by Q, we mean quantum. Stay tuned. Yeah. He was like, oh, look how much they're trolling. I'm not a lot of these. There's the most committed people I've ever encountered. Yeah, they're fun.

I've never encountered people who are so committed to anything. The UFO people are close. Sure.

I mean, the Q people are 10 years in going, trust the plan. It's coming. And you go, guys. It's unbelievable how dedicated they are to the plan and that it's still more thing and going in different directions. And the data centers are actually prisons for people who did the vaccine. They're not data centers. They're still going. And that level of commitment is what America's about. It's about that. It's about not giving up. Don't give up. Don't give up.

You're too deep in to give up. I've my advice to anyone in that movement. Stay in it because you there's no there's nothing good on the outside. Reality's not good. Stay in that movement. Take it as far as you can. What would the government possibly have to announce about quantum

“computing? No idea. What was the quantum heartbeat thing? What was that thing called?”

How did they locate that gentleman? I don't remember them ever coming out and saying because people were speculating that like how could you even do it? I think the next day was like that's not how quantum stuff worked. Right, but I don't know if they know that for sure. So they don't really know what the technology is. But what was the technology that the government described? Because they described it as very bizarre and they were a name for it that involved something quantum. And they

said that somehow or another they were able to detect this guy's heartbeat. Right, unique heartbeat. For my think was like, was it 70 or 700 miles away? Seven. This was posted on the New York post.

Secret never before UCIA tool that helps find airmen downed in Iran. If your heart is beating,

we will find you. Wow. So this is it. Long range quantum magnitude to find the electromagnetic signal of a human heartbeat that pairs with the data, pairs the data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the signature from background noise. And so how what is the range on this stuff? Because they were saying 40 miles I think they found this guy's with the claim voice. But didn't they say the range is up to like 70 miles? Something along those lines?

So I don't know if you know how long have they had this? Right. Is it even real? Yeah. But this is the thing. It's like is it real? Like so this is a post that's in the New York post.

“And I think it was from did someone release this as a statement? Like what did they do to say they did it?”

The confirmation. Okay. So we're close. Saturday morning. Yeah. There's CIA director talking about. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. It's missing American 40 miles away. That was unclear. Okay. That's Trump saying that. Not. So these are two different or three different speeches all going in together. I guess maybe they spoke at the same press. So here's the other thing. If that technology doesn't exist. Right. And they just made that up to cover for technology

satellite imagery of the earth that gets down to like a grain of sand. And they can find

anybody anywhere that could just find out where the plane is, scan the area, bam, there he is.

“There he is. Okay. We don't want to say we have this. What are we going to say?”

Let's say we have quantum heart rate to go back to temperature. Yeah. We can find we could find just laying max while in New Hampshire. When that came out, people were asking why couldn't you usually find it in Hampshire? Yeah. Where is, you know, whatever? Well, it could be that that technology just recently got invented. That's also possible. Well, there's still missing people, got threes missing still. Right. I don't just, we shouldn't have missing

people then if that technology exists. That's a weird thing. And my heart goes out to her. But that's the crazy sand ever heard. Yeah. That's a weird one. And didn't they like, they looked at family members as suspects. I think they looked at family members as she's back and I think she's back to work. And isn't she back to work? I don't know. What did you say there's a break in the story? No. I think the story got updated recently. Yeah. There's something about a

no ransom note claimancy got through died after abduction. Well, that's a, well, you're not going

to get ransom man. Second ransom note claim. She died. Yeah. This is, well, that's a horrible ransom note.

So someone posted a note saying that she died. I want money. It's a ransom note that says she died. What about what if it's she died? She just give us reading headline. What if it's she were sorry she died? She just give us what you want. It's not a specific amount of money. It's just give what you feel is it's like church give what you can. We're sorry she passed away give what you can. We're not going to say a specific amount of money. So the note sent days after the disappearance.

Oh, so this is not new. Oh, indicated she had died, but contained no request for payment for the release of her body. Three people familiar with the matter said though the existence of the note was known, the specific contents had not been previously disclosed. So it's just the contents are disclosed that they knew that she was dead. It seems like it's an inside thing. It seems like if someone's involved that knew them. I mean, I hate to think that, but it does feel like it's

“what was the, was there a request for money? What was the first request? Originally, yeah, I think it was”

a bunch of Bitcoin or something they wanted. What it, well, let's find out what it was. It's a hard to say obviously. I like to know, but it does seem like to me say inside job. Well, someone's certainly, okay, the reason families involved, maybe not. I don't know, hmm, this is all bringing up stuff about it. Ask AI, press AI mode. You can't do it. Okay, put it in there. Put it in

perplexity. How much do you think they asked for? I bet 10 million. 10 million. For mom? Five? Five?

Let's say. Ten's a lot. Multi-million dollar payments in crypto currency, mostly Bitcoin, with the amounts raging from about four to six million and set deadlines, sometimes with escalating or else consequences. Terrible. This is insane, but think about it. Is that random? I guess it could be. It could be, but there was, there was some concern that it was going to come. It was something that a family member did this. Who knows? It's sick. The Bitcoin things were too. It could

transfer money and Bitcoin. There was a group of people that wanted me to advertise on my podcast and it was a meme-quint thing and that was a platform, whatever. And then I was like, "But they're like identities were shrouded." People knew who they were, but they were also very secretive because they didn't want to get kidnapped and they split their time between Dubai and London. And CAA, you know, came to me and they were like, "Hey, they want to give you a bunch of money and I go,

what are they?" And CAA is like, "Well, you know, it's crypto, you know, they don't, you know, I mean, demons from hell. No offense. Love my people." But they were, I was like, I got to meet them. I got to meet them and sit down and talk to them as human beings and like ask them what their company does, everything like that. And then immediately once I requested that, they said, "Okay, they'll all meet you and Dubai and talk to you about the company." I said, "I can't, I need to know." Like,

I know like, you know, whatever they pulled the offer and wouldn't meet. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, there's all these shit because by the way, here's a great way to fuck someone is to advertise on their show and then go buy the way the money came from Russia.

“Yeah. And you didn't even know that. Wasn't that happened to a bunch of right-wingers?”

I'm sure it happened. I'm sure it happened. It's hard to know who knew what, but like, it's great. It's what a great way to just make people appear compromised. So when somebody, when you go, "Where's this money coming from?" Maybe it's an intelligent agency. Maybe it's ours. Maybe it's someone else. But you start going like, "All right, I need to sit down with you.

if these guys will legit or not, but the fact that they wouldn't even meet for a dinner

tells me that something was up. Also a friend of mine who's working at a company that's producing young show, long-form shows for YouTube creators told me that a lot of the money is coming from Democrats' superpacks, because they want a captive audience to be programmed politically, and not only Democrats' superpacks, but like, superpacks that are associated with certain issues and things like that. So what they're going to start doing is getting behind content and, you know,

funding longer-form things on social media platforms and things like YouTube or whatever, and then those companies that are kind of in the background of this will then say, "Oh,

we have an audience of five or 10 million people watching this. We can put political ads on it and

“whatever else." So I mean, this is kind of, I think, the future is going to be all many things”

like this. And when you can do it through something like crypto, like if you can hide your identity, like who knows if it's even a real company, it could be a company designed entirely just for influence. It's very questionable, you have the intelligence world, you have the crypto world, and you know, you have the world of international crime syndicates, like they all are live in that world. And I'm not saying people that are into crypto are inherently suspect in any way, obviously they're

not, but there is a lot of fuckery going on with the intelligence stuff in the crypto. That's like obvious. A clear one, whenever there's money, if the amount of money that you can make in crypto is fucking bananas, it doesn't make any sense, right? So whenever there's money in drugs, right, because they're in control, whether there's money in anything, they find a way to get a part of that money. I think what concerns people partially about this administration is some of

the crypto stuff. I think people are concerned with some of the coins and some of the, you know, crypto, well Melania coins legit, that one I love, but the rest, I worry. No, but I think I think it's a fair concern. It is because that's a fair concern. It's illegal, but it's like should it be?

“Is it you should pay? Should it pay? Should it be? For sure. I mean, there's some freedom to you”

being able to make your own coin and you back it with money, I guess, but it's also a way that you could learn to money and it's also a way you could pay people off for stuff and do people into spending their money. You know, in the end, like I think a lot of people, yeah, I mean, that poor girl, poor girls, they got her. They got her. They got her. They got her. I hope she did well on that. That she didn't. Really? Probably not. There's so many terms of what she could be doing.

Sad. Well, because the scissors they get mad at you for something like that. Well, they don't like you anymore. And the wrong thing and and it's sad. I know. I don't know. I don't know if she was going to be Merrill Streep, but it was, it was, it listened to catch me on that girl. It makes more money than anybody. It's true. But I think it could have gone on longer than it, what a, what a society we

“live. I mean, I just, that just hit me. I just like hit my brain that she makes more money than”

anybody needs to throw. I was listening to your take on the White House UFC card at the end of Magga. Yeah. And that the moment when that guy said Michelle Obama's a man. Yeah. Well, it's just the greatest thing for if you're a deep, deep hardcore. And I don't even mean the, like, the America

First Principles. I just mean like you were long for the ride. You're here for the part. There's a lot of

Magga people that I'm friends with, they're deep. They're not political. They're long for the part. They like the party. Right. They want fun. Florida. It's 4 pm. They're drunk. You know what you mean? And they're, they're in for the fun. And it's fun. They have like, they have like boat shows and regardless, where like a bunch of boats will go out with Trump flags. When they're watching that, you have see a vet in their house in St. Augustine or Tampa or or fucking West

Palm, whatever it is. And that guy stands up because Michelle Obama is a man. It's the culmination of things that you, they're not going to beat that. It's hard to beat that. That there were houses that cheered when that happened. 100% of it. How many do you think? Over the whole country. It was audible in Florida. Florida. I know for sure was audible for sure. People cheered and it was like, listen, outside bars. Yeah. It was a party. The fights were good. You know, it's like, to me,

it's like, there's this, there's this, every cultural thing has a moment where it just explodes. And it's over after that. You know, it's like Hunter Thompson as that famous quote about it, where he was part of this thing. And then it just, you know, we saw it hop in with like celebrity culture.

shut up. Yeah. Like it really, it was like, they did that video and they didn't know what at the time,

“but people really started to turn on them. They're like, just shut up. There was the other one, the BLM one,”

totally all of them. Same story to be white or whatever it was. Same shit. Same kind of thing. People just said, okay, enough of this. And I do think that every movement just gets to a point where you've done all you can do. You've done all you can do. And when you are standing in the octagon of a UFC fight on the White House lawn, and you're asked if you have anything to say in your screen, Michelle Obama's a man, that is the clock is struck midnight. That's that. I mean,

I don't know what else you could do. That guy, Josh Hookett. Yeah. You know, that's like he's got a

stick. Like he's got a character. Talked fun. Incredible hook. And so he's basically like a

pro wrestling bad guy who also is a really good fight. Right. So there's a real problem there. What should have happened? Yeah. And he says crazy stuff. Well, they probably

“in retrospect. Yeah. If they wanted to avoid this, probably shouldn't have had him fight”

on the White House lawn. Sure. Because if he said that at the Timo Bolirina or in Madison Square Guard, totally outrageous. Sure. But not that big of deal. But it's the, yeah. But here's what should have happened afterwards. Michelle Obama should have made an undertaker like entrance. Let's go. He all said the lights go. Oh, I don't give. And then the light goes on on the balcony. Michelle, but she comes on a court that she flies over. If Michelle Obama had made an

undertaker like entrance and God in this stage, and then body slant like can you imagine

unbelievable. That would have been amazing. The country just exists for ratings. Now anyway,

it's all it exists for. It's just that's all we're doing anymore. That would have been unbelievable. Here it is. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. She's in a silly entire town. Michelle Obama comes down. You see Trump, Trump starts doing his dance. He's doing his Trump dance. Michelle Obama comes down. She's got a cape. Bro, it would be the end. It would have been un-fucking believable. And she would have been president next. She would have been president next

with no election. No election. Dance is going to stand up to that. She should have descended from the rafters in a cape. Thought that guy, you know, you know, choreographed. Yeah, body slant. It's fun. Fake. And then she does an uppercut and then he's on a on a chord and he sails out unbelievable. Missed opportunity. Missed opportunity. Because why not? Why not have some fun? Yeah. Why not? Why not have a little fun? They said, or some wrestling event there,

they could they could pull off. They could do it. And if she's smart, she hears this and she's on her phone with her people. Don't sue them. They were going to sue them. They thought about suing them. It's like, what? Stop with the suing all the time in this country. Yeah. Do something fun. I agree. Too much suing. Well, there's, there is this moment where the UFC thing was going on, where like the planes flew overhead, where it just like, I'm like, is this even real? It was, it was

“wild. It's such an amazing spectacle. It's hard to top. It was pretty amazing. That's what”

I mean, that's a cohesive entertainment. Of course. It was also the only UFC card in the history of the, the school where every fight was a knockout. Yeah. It's, this was the, that this is senior prom. Everyone's got to go to college next year. And you know, wherever they go, this is it. This is this lucky. Jackie's a moment after senior prom or, you know, some party that you have senior, you know, the summer. If you're looking around at all your friends, you're a high-end drunk,

and you're looking around and you, any, if you're smart, most people, a lot of them have this thought.

They go, this is never going to be like this again. Right. This will never be like this again.

We'll never be able to get together on the White House lawn and to motorcross and watch you of see and call Michelle Obama a man. It started when he walked down the escalator. We went through a lot of things. The guy almost got shot. Who knows who did it? No one knows, no one seems to care, whatever, fine moving on. But, you know, he's, he's, you know, he's gone through many iterations. There's, he's been out. He's been in. It's the most, it's the most interesting story,

really in recent human history. And, and this is the party to throw. And it's wild because we're not going to win the Iran War. We're not going to win the Iran War. It's, he's very clear that it's very difficult to imagine a scenario where we come out with like a decisive victory.

into the assassination attempt? What happened there? Because that's where Kent said,

do you know, do you know, do you know, honestly done? Do you know who you put in charge of it if you want it? Truly. And I'm being very serious. If you want an honest investigation, put his real in charge, Joe, if you want, if you want it done right, have them do it,

“that's what I'm saying, just have them do it. Just have them do it. I, I would just think they should”

look at the Charlie Kirkus assassination as well. I would trust their conclusions. Have them do it. That would be my thought. Just, just a fun thought. There's a lot of people that think it was a hoax that it was a setup. And if it was, I've said on my show, just tell us how you did it,

because that's fun too. It's fun. It's fun. It's a venue men shot during Trump rally and Butler

sued the United States. Two men who were wounded in the shooting. They're suing James Copenhaver and David Dutch were shot during the attempt assassination of Trump. They're Tonya's filed federal lawsuits against the United States for their life altering physical and emotional injuries claiming those injuries were the direct result of negligence on the Part of the United States Secret Service. Dutch was shot the stomach while Copenhaver was shot twice.

Yeah, that means the suing ever end in this industry. But there's an argument that was

“negative to negligence. Remember that woman Kim Sheetle who was in charge and then they put her back in a”

bunker? Who? She was in charge of the Secret Service. Kim Sheetle. Right. That's right. She was like

Dick Cheney's assistant. Yeah, the roof was too sloped. But they shot the guy. He didn't even fault. He didn't roll off the roof. Like the whole thing was the slope of the roof that they were on was steeper. If it's a fake assassination attempt, I don't care. I want to know how it was done and so does the rest of America produce a special or Barry Weiss interviews Donald Trump about how they fake the assassination attempt. Put it on CBS where she's doing and she's taking over

CNN now. So I think and she's now isolated herself on the sixth floor of CBS where she can no longer see the staff and they can not approach her and that's true. That is correct and she's guarded by guards. What? Yes. Where do you hear this? This is in the news. She is she's in a bunker like detaining the P.O. during 9/11 except it's Barry Weiss at CNN surrounded by guards and no one can it's like it's like a militarized zone. She's in a militarized zone. Barry and the bunker in

Ellison at the gates. Yeah. Is this real? She's unbelievable. By the way, I like her more now and she

“hates me and that's sad. Why should I? Well, you know, I've said things but here's the thing.”

I like her more now than ever. When did she start hating you after your hilarious impression? She's she's she's turned on me. She turned on me a while ago. It turned on you how. She texted me and was like, you're part of a world in which people are anti-Semitic and I'm like, well, what am I what? What am I doing? And she's like, you're part of this thing and I was like, well, that's like, what am I? Why am I? What is this guilt by association? I don't like this.

Part of a thing that's anti-Semitic. You're part of a cultural space of anti-Semitic and I'm like, so she's connecting you to anti-Semitic. Can I connect me to all these different people because if the thing that she hated and the thing that she created against was this whole idea that like she's applying the same principles that she's supposed to live in like, which is like, if you're willing to have a conversation with somebody, you endorse everyone of their views.

Or if you question something like Israel, you hate Israel, or you hate Jewish people, which is insane. And that was, I thought she was the one who was like, we should have nuanced on the transition. What happened to that? What happened to being able to question gender ideology and all these things? Why aren't we, where's the nuance? Where's the, where are we holding space for nuance, bear? CBS News boss Barry Weiss poised to oversee CNN editorial operations.

Yeah, this is what he just said, right? Yeah, I saw that. But she's living her best life as people would say this is what she was meant to do. And when someone steps into their truth, I support them. And she's stepped into her truth. She's exactly where she should be in a bunker guarded by the military while she systematically destroys CBS. She's stepping in her truth. This is what she was there. She was put there to destroy it.

She was obviously put there to destroy it. She wasn't put there to make it work. She's put there to just destroy it. And she's doing it. Do you think they understood the amount of push back that they were going to get? I don't think they, I think they said, listen, let's just put her

institutions are dying. They're not turning around. No one's going back to watching the evening news. And they know that. These are billionaires. The idiots, the lessons are not done. They don't think they said, let's have a little fun while this thing goes. It says she took the helm of the struggling organization last month with a mandate to shake it up following David Ellison led Sky Dance takeover of CBS parent company Paramount

in 2024. Paramount Sky Dance bought white online outlet the free press for a cool 150 million

as she became editor and chief of CBS news. Yeah, it's a lot of money for the free press. Well, no, because if you look at the podcast ratings, it was those you and then she was number two. Wow. So that's white. No, she would get 7,000 YouTube views. And it seems high. It certainly seems like a lot. But you know, when you take into account her cultural impact, it's interesting because like when it came to her like pushing against woke

ideology that it infected the New York Times, she seemed really reasonable. And there's this very

“famous clip of her talking to Brian Stelter, which talks about the world gone crazy. Remember that”

the world gone mad? Yes. Well, she's like very brilliantly lays out why if this is what you're saying,

you know, when people are saying that silence is violence and not actual violence is violence, the world's gone mad. And she lays these all out. It's so brilliant. Well, there's got to be room for nuance. Like October 7th was horrible. Hamas is not good. We all know this. However, you also cannot look at what's gone on the last few years and think that Israel has not number one perpetrate. You can call it. I call it a genocide. People can call it anything they want.

Doesn't matter. It's a campaign of mass murder. We're a lot of people have died. Civilians have died. Many children have died. People that are innocent have died.

And they're doing, they're starting to do something similar in southern Lebanon. And they're now

talking about Turkey going by the way, Turkey also is a Turkey's innate of fucking country. So the idea that any criticism of Netanyahu or these really government or Israel or our relationship with Israel or the money makes me anti-Semitic is an insane thing. It's the exact thing that she fought against in race and gender. She fought against that mannequin, good and evil, black and

“white. She fought against it. And she was right. She was correct to say you should be able to have”

conversations about when is it appropriate for a child to be exposed to certain ideas. And when should they be able to make a determination about how they want to live their life? And when is it appropriate for people to call, you know, to designate between a protest and a legit and a riot? And the silence is violence and all of that stuff. She had really pretty logical opinions on all that stuff. But when it came to that one issue, she seems very incapable

of understanding any nuance or gray area or complexity regarding this particular issue. No, she is all in for Israel. And that's fine, that's her choice and I get it. But it's so obvious when a Mark Levin goes, the president's great because we're going into Iran because the president's great, he's the greatest leader of all time. And then he goes, well, this didn't work out like we thought we're going to make a deal. And we're going to try to, you know, and then Mark Levin goes,

“this is a failure, this is a blunder, this is a strategic thing. And it's like, for who?”

Is it for us? It's not not a failure. It's clearly a failure for us. But like, it seems like the bigger failure would be for Israel that wants Iran neutered because they have aspirations regionally, globally, but certainly regionally. So who's it a failure for? And that's a fair question. And I think it's like, there's, you've got to be able to have that conversation without being tart and feathered as someone who's like a conspiracy mongering anti-Semite, which is like,

very, there's a group of people that are, but a lot of people just want sanity. And this is not, this is not saying. And just like you were talking about with the banks forcing that shit down people's throats that it's going to make them, yeah, same thing. Nobody understands blowback. Like the CIA term blowback when you're like, go into a country, kill everyone and they go, you like us, right? They go, no, not really, we killed your mother, but we're sorry, but you want

them all. We're going to build them all. They go, no, we're going to, we're going to bomb you and try to kill you. This is blowback. There's blowback when you shut down conversations and,

If you don't pay people a lot of money or kill them, they're going to talk. If you, if you don't, if you limit that, they're going to get angrier and the blowback is going to be intense. Well said. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's entirely accurate. CBS News, I'll go on. That's a thing. I have to be with her. I like her. I like to choose in a bunker. I will go on to that show. I'm there. Things that I thought was hilarious. There was some fake story. It was that they were going to

bring me on for 60 minutes. Everyone keeps saying that I texted you about it. I'm like, are you doing 60 minutes? I thought that was wild, but why not? I mean, you know, half the staff is left. One of that guy that guy built belly just got out. Yeah. She got out and then she's got that

“don't couple or whatever his name is in the evening news crying like a psychopath. Who's that?”

He's the guy that does the CBS evening news and it's first his first episode. He's in Miami.

And he's crying. Can you get that up? It's unbelievable. He's the anchor of the news. Why is he crying? He's crying because he's, he starts talking about his family and how he grew up in Miami. It's unbelievable. This is the guy who was selected to run the CBS evening news to be the anchor of the CBS evening news. And like he does this thing where he's in Miami and they take him out of the chair because they want to start shaking it up.

Barry shaking it up instead of sitting at a desk and doing the thing. They bring him to Miami to like visit his childhood places and he starts sobbing. I forget it was like a restaurant or something. The Jamie you can find it. He's crying and like a restaurant or he's like he gets like choked up and it's deeply uncomfortable and it's really weird. And he starts talking about how he had a

hard childhood. It's like unbelievable. This is the guy. Embarrassing first days CBS

evening news savage by staff. It's state TV. Whoa. The conversation with one of his handlers during

“an ad break, Pete Heggseth said during his interview with Tony. How do you say his name?”

Doc Ducapol. Ducapol. We did it at Barry's request and because CBS news did something right on this. I wish you had him crying. I wish you had him in his in that restaurant. So his Marco Rubio's moment is what he's talking about? He's in Miami and in Ducapol. I mean, yeah, he's this is psychotic. He's the watch. So he just keeps crying. That wasn't showing the video. Maybe that's this thing.

You know, like George Hamilton was tan all the time. He's crying. He's talking about yeah, look at this. Look at this. This is the anchor of the CBS evening news. So he's being interviewed? Yeah, can we listen to this? I can't. Facebook's weird. Damn it. It doesn't let me control the player goes. There's a loss to show up.

“Yeah, we get a second. Yeah, take it from the beginning so you know what it's crying about?”

Well, it makes me emotional. It's so funny. I didn't mean anything to catch it. You know? This is your favorite place in the world. Why? Why South Florida and Miami? It makes me emotional. It's so funny. I didn't mean anything to catch it. You know,

because you only have one child, right? So we get a second here. I can relate. This is home.

People will have to help people understand why I have such a reaction. Florida is where I grew up. We didn't get a lot of sleep. My grandmother's here, my father, my mother, my aunt's and uncle's cousins. And it's where I would have spent all of my childhood, but we left. Because my father got in trouble with business. It's like we laugh about it now, but he was a drug dealer.

But he was a drug dealer with a jail. It's kind of a ha-ha thing that we say now, but the reason is so emotional for me. It's kind of a ha-ha thing. He's this head of the CBS evening, he's the anchor of the CBS evening news. This is what drives everyone so crazy, but the world have fake everything is. That's the guy. That's the best guy for the job. This is when I grew up, you'd go see Whitney Houston and go fuck, she's good. I can't sing like that.

Who cares if she smokes crack? She deserves it. You watch this and he drives you and seeing,

He's going to have to report on debt like murder, war, famine, whatever, and he's crying in a

fucking in some Cuban restaurant about his drug dealer father. So they had to leave Miami? No one believes anything's real anymore. This is a huge problem in our world. People go, that's the guy. That's the anchor of the CBS evening news. It's crazy. Well, the other guy who was on a bunch of people attacked him after he left. Right. So he left, and apparently he made it very public. Yes. He's got palliars. Big public. Yeah. So what was he pissed about? He was saying something about they were going against

“science or some of it had to do, I believe, with climate change. Some of it had to do with a bunch”

of other things that he disagreed with the news organization. It was fine at what his exact

complaints were. Yeah, that's fine. I don't know what they were, but Barry chairs the meetings there

and really goes on in the marriages yourself and on the calls and stuff has no idea what she's talking about. And so here it is. Following his criticism, news editor Barry wise, 60 minutes executive producer Nick Bilton at a staff meeting. Pellie was fired by CBS News, what did he say? Was CBS fired? Pellie, a built-in wrote a cover letter which obtained by the New York Times, built-in status falls, your antipathy. Antipathy to the future of the show has come

through loud and clear and I have heard you, therefore right on behalf of CBS News, aimed to inform you that you're employment with CBS is terminated for cause effective immediately. Next day, why said I'm only interested in working in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect. Okay. So what did he say? Pellie accused the new CBS leadership of instructing him to insert falsehoods into a political story and to include assertions that were not verified,

instructions. He says he ignored. The collapse of values at the top has become untenable. The leadership at 60 minutes is no longer recognizable. The principles I hold dear are gone. And so I must leave as well. One of what exactly they meant, though, by the falsehoods in a political story and including assertions that were not verified. Well, here it is. It says the story CBS intervened on was a report about the 26 protests in Minnesota and the falsehood CBS

asked for was to describe protestor Renee Good as driving her car toward the officer who killed her, which Pellie said contradicts video evidence of the event. That's correct. It seemed to me that he was the lady was trying to turn the car away from him, but it did brush up against the guy, which is enough for him to decide the killer. Well, I know, but it wasn't,

“it was not she was trying to run him over. No, and I think it was. But however that guy had been”

dragged by a car very recently. So he's probably filled with PTSD. I'm sure she died. I think he got dragged like 300, 300 yards rather. I think it's fair to ask if it's 100 feet. Yeah, but I think it's also fair to ask at this point. Like, what is the media? Like, what is the media? Like, right, older respect to Barry Wise, but like, so it was a heavily inflated price for her, for her blog that she sold and what would you to channel, whatever. It's clearly, there's clearly a political

agenda to this. You have billionaires at own all of these companies and we're asked to believe

that like, she's the most qualified for the job, even though she's never ran in newsrooms. She's

like, worker way up the ranch. She's an op-ed columnist in opinion, writer, stuff like that. Great. She made a lot of sense. We said it before. And then she appoints Hires this guy who's crying

“in a restaurant in Miami, but it's dad and it's like, who the hell's that guy? So I think it's fair to”

ask, like, do we have any trust left in these institutions? Do we have any trust left and like, people that work there are leaving and saying, I'm being asked to insert things into this. It isn't true. Well, that alone, just that alone, like driving the car towards the officer. That's not, that's just not technically correct. Right. It seems like she was steering it away. Why would they want to say something that's not correct when you could just see it in a video? Like,

if you were running a newsroom, that would be the last thing you would want to do is contradict something that's obviously verifiable. So that would, for what reason would you sacrifice your credibility? Because essentially what it's doing, it's such a short-term play. Yes, but I'll tell you exactly why. Okay. Because their main demographic is 70 year olds who are having strokes on their couch. They're not verifying this. They're not. They have a very old audience that is not

this and it allows them to dismiss it as, well, she did the wrong, you know, she drove just a

“Bible shooting. Yeah, I don't think there is somebody's motivating them to do that for those people.”

Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Well, because she's in the tank for Trump, because Trump promised or maybe didn't promise, but like whatever, he's useful in the sense that he's going to go in a top of the regime in Iran. He's going to sue all these, you know, or he's going to bring Harvard college to heal for whatever the hell they did. And, you know, she believes that, and again, a lot of

this is just connected to her, purview that, you know, Israel's interest are always 100%

concurrent with America's and Trump gets that and he understands that. So she's in the tank for Trump, which, by the way, if Biden would have invaded Iran, she would have started protecting him. It doesn't seem like it's, she doesn't care that much about a ton of issues. It seems to be that this is her big issue. That's the disturbing thing to a lot of people. Like how much influence

“do they really have on this country? That's what creeps people out, because I think no one”

even really considered it before October 7th. It wasn't, I mean, I'm sure people considered it. Nick Quintos considered it. But it wasn't like it was an openly discussed thing amongst young

people. Right. It wasn't until we started realize, first of all, it was a pack. It was the

the weirdness of the New York City mayoral race? Yeah, of course. Very weird. Where they were all like, we're going to visit Israel. Like, what? Well, it's also in direct opposition to the stated goal of the Trump administration, which is to repair the United States and to make it great and to elevate it and to focus on the United States and to not go into Middle Eastern wars, which was a huge, very popular plank of his platform and to not waste money and saddle ourselves with that and

mire ourselves in these unwinnable wars. And there was such a gaslight in campaign to Secretary of State, came out of the Iran War and goes, "Well, Israel's going to attack him anyway and our base is we're going to be vulnerable, so we had to join." And then he went, "No, I didn't mean that." I didn't really mean that. We're partners. We're both thinking it's a great idea and there was tremendous pressure on him to do this. And you know, it hasn't worked. And it's clearly not in the interest

of the United States to be in a Middle Eastern war with Iran. Tons of Jewish people don't believe it is. Lots of people from all walks of life don't believe it, but there's an ideological group

of people that donate a lot of money and that are incredibly powerful and they are really pushing

this. They're pushing troops and they're pushing nukes. They're like, or none, you know, unconditional weapons. It's a crazy bomb in campaigns. They're pushing troops on the ground. They don't care what it takes. Iran has to be either completely destroyed or it's just got to be a chaos zone, but for the regional ambitions of Israel, they can't, it can't exist. So, I mean, again, and not in a paranoid conspiratorial way because I don't like the victim

stuff either as a bunch of people in America being like, "I can't get ahead because Jewish people

“are successful." I think that's a stupid road to go down. That's a victim road. I hate that.”

I hate it. I hate it when gay people do it or anyone. Any group of people, I hate when they drench themselves in victimhood. I think when you become a victim, you lose autonomy over your life. It's insane. But I do think there's a fair question to ask about. What is, you know, what is the motive of of certain massive big donors is the motive, the strength and prosperity of America or is it the strength and prosperity of Israel? That's a fair question.

What about the rest of the world? How much are we putting ourselves at odds with the rest of the world? Indescribably, the worst PR ever. People cannot justify, you know, you've got to be a very ideological person to justify, you know, Southern Lebanon, Gaza, Iran, perhaps Turkey. This is starting to feel like this is like a friend you have who you make excuses for for a certain amount of time. And then your wife eventually goes, "They're not allowed here. You can't go out with them."

They've, they're a problem. They have a fucked up home life. I know they're fun. I know you share values. I know the intro each other for a long time, but here's the deal. They're not coming

down to. It was even worse than that. The thing that drives me crazy is the negotiators when they get negotiations, then they want to whack on them. They kill old negotiators. And then Trump, they're going to stop, stop killing negotiators. Yeah, and Trump and Lebanon. Is this our

“Randian deal going to work? Is it going to work? You know, stop bombing Lebanon. I think we're”

at odds now. We're in the last two years. We are now. It's we're at odds with Israel for the first

time. Where Trump is really at odds with them. And he's had enough. And I think he is starting to understand that his legacy will be permanently tainted if he doesn't find a way to extricate us from this war. And I think on on the other side. And that's and advance again for all the disagreements I might have advanced about certain things. He is the one of the only people in that administration who does push against the continuation of this war, which is why a lot of those neoconservative

donors try to destroy him because I don't love his tech alliances. There's a lot of things I don't like about him. But there's a lot of things I think are good about him. I think there's, and it's not like

I don't like about him per se. I worry about, you know, some of his relationships. How many of these

religious just think are like necessary for survival? I'm sure all of them are, and that doesn't mean, and they, but they still need to be criticized and look at it. Oh yeah, it's 100% not, not justifying it at all, but I'm telling you, I have a feeling like no completely autonomous person

“is ever going to make it through that man. Never. Never. But I think the job is, you turn the”

heat up enough where maybe if everyone's going to do 10 horrible things, they do too. Right. So I think it's certainly the job of anyone who looks at this stuff to look at it and go, yeah, what is going on? What is happening? But I will say for all of the tech, you know, things that I find a little,

you know, it's a little like, what? I do, I do think that to his credit, he's the only one in there,

and you can tell, and it's not that I have some insight knowledge, they're only a, he's being attacked the post by the people that want the word to continue. Yeah. And I think he knows his political ambitions will be completely destroyed by a continuation of this war. So I look at all these people, not as human beings, even though they are human beings, but I look at them as like they're running the show, they're running the country, so they all ambitions and it's hard to know their

hearts or heads or how they feel from one day to the next, very difficult. So I think when you look at them, you look at them and you go, yeah, he's a, he's calculated in ambitious, but he also is the one being attacked by people that want the word to continue. Tucker Carlson, who again, I have a green list of Tucker of disagreements with Tucker, he, the attacks on him are insane. The attacks are making Kelly are wild because of this issue. It's not a myriad of issues. Is this issue?

Yeah, undoubtedly. And it's weird. It's weird because it's so transparent. It's so transparent in the, the whole world is seeing it play out, and it's like the amount of gaslighting that you have to keep pumping. Yeah, it's, it's not sustainable. Well, to say that this was not in the

“interest, this was in America's interest. You have to, you have to, you have to jump around logically,”

so much. Well, this is also the problem with the justification of what happening Gaza, when people will try to say Israel, like, God was saying they're doing the best they can. Like look at the drone footage fly over that. That's the best you can do. That's crazy. Like it's better. Is that better than a nuke? Because I don't think it is. It's like, it's, it's the human. It looks like the damage of a nuke just spread out over two years instead of one blast. It's in human. It's evil. It's children

being killed. It's mothers being killed in front of their children. And by the way, October 7th was inhumane, but I should not have to keep doing that. Of course you should not do that. But it's also October 7th. You know, the people that got killed, those are the ravers, right? Right. So those are the people that were anti-netting. Yeah. Those are not the people that were also killed. I think probably a lot of like, mud they drank, people had their houses. Oh, they killed a ton of

people that were in a situation there. Like, it's also like, why did it takes so long to respond to that? Well, this is another very interesting, very important question. Yeah. Because there's a lot of people that say, it's a state, the size of New Jersey. And the security failures are they're pretty wild. And there hasn't been a real investigation into them. And Netanyahu has kind of prevented that. And they've kind of made it illegal to question that. It is real. Like, people were

there was, they've made a law. And you can look this up about things like this in Israel, because during wartime they haven't had an 11. They had an election. No. Since October 7th? No. Right. Right. They haven't had an election. Right. And the Ukraine hasn't had an election. So if I'm living in a country and the leader of my country just wants to be in a war forever, there is no democracy. Well, you know, Clinton said that. Clinton said that about Netanyahu.

So he wants to maintain a war. He said it openly in an interview. Right. And then it may turn out. And then a nice, chubby intern showed up. Oh, I wish. And I wish I could go back and show it.

Yeah. Oh, that's busy. But as was around. Here's the first guy to go viral.

So I mean, that's the thing. You don't, you don't have elections. You don't have people looking into

“things. And by the way, that's not the only thing that should be looked into looking to bug. Look at”

everything. Right. We're the 9/11 docs. What happened? We know why can't we know anything. What? Why can't we know anything? Yeah. You know, that's all of it. It's like release all we're all adults. Release it. Let's see what happened. But don't you think it's fine? I'm sure no one did anything naughty. I think this is all kind of breaking, though. And I think that's one of the breaking. One of the things is happening with AI. It's like all these things that they are protecting us from, they're going to

find out that stuff. Well, here's the thing. I mean, I met you in 2019. The first time I met you

was 2018. Big jail person was opening for you in Toronto. Oh, wow. Yeah. But then I met you in 2019. And that's what six years ago, seven years ago. They were cracks of it breaking then. But almost invisible. Like you couldn't see them. Now you have fallen like huge sink holes opening

“into the reality that most people have accepted for their entire life. Yes. Big. Yeah. Big.”

Big. And you see like this Tulsi Gabbard is press release that she did. This conference we're just talking about Fauci or didn't all that. There's we're getting information now, getting information. Let us know that the entire system has been completely corrupted for a long time. Very long time. Very long. And it won't survive. It's clearly can't survive the way we're in, is it $40 trillion worth of debt? It's close. Right? It was at $39.

No one thinks that's getting paid back. Yeah. Who will it to? Tell them to go fuck off. Right. So we have a lot of it's China. But like no one thinks that's getting paid back. The dollar as the world reserve currency seems to have a limited amount of time. I don't know. But this is what's discussed. No, I mean, how does this system survive this level of information? People are not going to. Do you think that this whole race to AI, this like Manhattan

projects to our race that's going on right now? Like the future of whatever the United States is,

“kind of depends on us getting their first. Right. I think part of it. If we don't get their first,”

then it's probably a wrap. If you really thought about it, like if China were their first,

if control of resources, everything shut off, sure. However, how what if it's weaponized? I worry is that in the guys of fighting China, we're going to become China. You know, I would take the government a lot more seriously if they weren't, you know, potentially I think like like saying, pound to should merge all these different government databases. So your health data and your criminal justice data and your tax data, all merges. And who's

doing that? Pound to you. And then they go, well, trade has got a credit score. What the hell is that? What the hell is this? What? When Vance comes out and he goes, I'm worried about a credit score. It's like, okay, hey, buddy, me too. What the hell is this? So it's a little bit of gas setting in that sense too. They're like, if China gets all this stuff, you're all going to, it'll we lose and you go, okay. So it's almost like China will enslave you. Let us do it first.

Everyone's going to be on their best behavior. That's right. Everyone's going to be on their best behavior. We're going to be watching them. You heard that quote. Yeah. Everyone's going to be on their best behavior. This is what the world economics from people like that. They don't have an interest in you owning a house or farming land or starting a business or they don't have any interest in that. It does not serve them at all. It did for a while. But their economic

projection is that that's not going to be possible for you. So what they're going to do, they're building bunkers, they're hoarding all the wealth. And they're, you know, have

Iran is all this UAE money, props up Hollywood, all these startups. It props up all the AI. A lot of

it. A lot of that money is coming from Qatar and the UAE. And they're, and our base is getting blown off the earth in those countries. Those countries are getting attacked because of this war. And they're a huge financier of American startups. And some AI startups. So like one thing that I wonder about all of this is just how much this just does seem now to be a high-level chess game.

“About the the future and what is and isn't possible. But the only thing that makes me personally”

happy is to Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump just pulled an island.

That gave the role many people were really excited. They're really excited. I see how they're

celebrating the streets. I believe they burn the Prime Minister's house and the president, wherever they were just starting lighting houses on fire. And that's coming by the way. They just didn't bell fest. That's coming. People starting to light things on fires coming. That's coming. I'm not calling for it. I'm not saying it's good. But it's coming because voting becomes fake. No one cares. People on threads. It's fake. It's fake. It's so obvious. It's fake.

It's fake. It's all fake. So the only and you know what? Again, I'm not calling for it. It's bad. But fires real. If you ask some people at Pulse Age or Malibu and whatever RIP, I like the Pulse Age that's stupid. I like that. But this is real. People are going to start realizing that this oldest technology has just been set up to give you this idea that you have some effect

“and all the while Jared and Ivanka just go buy an island. That's what's happening. But maybe”

it's fine. Have you gone any invites to any bunkers? No. No. They're not. I think you'd feel differently if you did. I don't know. I know you've had advice to do interesting things. I've had invites to teal and I've said no because I would, I think, you know, he'd probably sit me down and go, listen to me. You fat fuck. You're going to shut your mouth. And I'd sit there and I go, no, I think it's, I think if they were going to invite me, someone goes, this is the

guy who dressed up as Christy Nooms husband with fake tits. And they go, we can't have it here. But that's absolutely. Absolutely. If somebody said to me, a few people are going to survive and it's just going to be you and these people and everybody else is going to die. It's tough. How fun would it be though? Is it fun? Is it fun if the whole world dies? And I'm just sitting

“and having dinner with you and he vancid his wife? I mean, is that the, what's Peter teal?”

Me and Usha and Jake just eating steak? Yeah, I mean, is that, is that what we want? I don't know. Probably not. Probably not. What's the best case scenario? The best case scenario is a new era of enlightened people and enlightened thinking and soulfulness and spirituality and a, and a healthy attachment to technology and religion and, you know, people's, you know, a common kind of a sense of morality and togetherness and love for community that's not enforced by government's corporations

and armies? I'm not betting on that, but that would be good. Well, there's a battle, right? Yeah, there is not. It's not like one side is clearly going to win. We're moving in a very weird direction of uncertainty, but humans today are way better at being people, way kinder and nicer, despite all our problems than we have ever been in the past. Yeah, society is generally

at least first world countries safer than it's ever been in the past. Yeah. And it's also, there's

more opportunity to do things now because of technology that's ever existed before. So, but this is, it's not worse, but it's not moving in the best direction possible. Like, if you had to choose between living today, the way we're living now, or living in 1976 in San Francisco, I'd be like, go fuck yourself. I don't want to shitty breaks and live with these fucking people that don't know anything, because no one was the internet. Fuck that. Yeah. You're better off living today.

The community is genuinely better with Gosey Janus Chaplin, right? And you'd be smoking weed, and a burrito would be 50 cents. And then you would go into a park and fuck and then die. And it might not be as bad as one thinks. And who knows? I didn't live during that time. So,

was more culturally interesting when there was crime. I'm against there being crime,

because New York couldn't have existed. It can't be 1983 in New York. Now, time square is a mall. Time square right now is a TGA Friday. But it sure has to be cashed to be cashed. But it can't be

“cashed, forever. But again, in that city, do you get the remones, do you get all of that stuff?”

Probably not? No. Probably not? No, you need some chaos for art, for sure. You don't get chaos. You don't get chaos from TGI Friday. You don't get that kind of chaos. But I do think that there's a time for certain things in this in inertia that moves certain things forward, meaning like it would be crazy to think about New York in the 80s today. Like no one's built for that life today. No one's even built for that. Like one of the reasons

at war is don't work anymore. But we should not build for it. When I used to be built for war, people used to be built for war. They were built to like, just like, yeah, somebody calls me and I just go die. You know, there's like a petition on the door and it's like report here. We're going to war. People are built for nobody's built for that now. People are filed complaints with door dash. I filed complaints. 1981 Rolling Stone magazine called West 42nd Street Located in the

“Heart of Times Square as the sleasiest block in America. Yeah. Now it's probably prime real estate.”

Yeah. I mean, listen, there's parts of it that are, you know, it's all prime real estate there. Whether people like it or not, it's not necessarily, you know, bet it's better because it's safer, but it's worse because it's safer. Nothing's all one thing. Nothing's all one thing. There's still great art there. There's still great music and comedy and theater and all that stuff. Is it as good as it was? No, no. But again, it's just because the people that are doing it

are amazing and their talent, but the culture is so decentralized now in fractures, it's nothing can stay cool. Everything that pop, you know, what's depressing me about New York is it's become like it's a cool place where people just go on Instagram and post a, you know, when

you used to go to dinner in New York City, you would eat French food or food that could never

make at home. You've never even seen it in here. They would treat it like shit. It was fun. Now you go to these places because Taylor Swift went there. You have like they, they just do like a high-end version of like a Totino's pizza roll that put Trump loyal on it. Here's a French dip. Here's a burger, people with a burger. It's just a basic bitch mall city now. That's really what it's become. That doesn't mean there's not a lot of psychopaths are making lots of money and

good for them. But it's becoming a suburban city. It's a city where people talk about chicken salad. It's a city where people go to wagmen. It's just a different city. It's Pilates and toddlers. It's all great. It's fine. I don't want to see people getting shanked, but it's not what it was. It's just not what it was. It doesn't have that same magic and nothing does. It laid as nothing really does and it won't come back. No, I don't think it's coming back.

I don't know if that's good or bad. If I live there, I mean, who knows what the fuck's gonna happen now with mom Donnie's mayor? I mean, that, that weirdness, we're, what is that guy's name Ken Griffin? The guy, the billionaire guy, I was in front of his apartment. Yeah. Billionaire guy lives here. He's got so much money. We're gonna take it.

“Well, they're going to tax it. Well, here's the thing. It's all fake. It's all fake.”

Mom Donnie's Trump. He's smart. He's sharp. He's good looking and young. He just, he's this whole crap. It's YouTube. It's like, look, Billionaire guy. Ken Griffin's a pump beach.

Billing a house worth a billion dollars. You're not gonna do anything to Ken Griffin.

You're a city employee. The mayor is fake. It's like, he'll raise taxes. Maybe if you can get it under the can't, it'll get dirty or crime will go up. Or it won't. It's kind of whatever. It's just not, you know, I think it's not, it's, it's more just the corporations rule and guys like, it's like Bernie Sanders. He's the version of the socialist you get. What does it even mean? He has a bunch of military industrial complex jobs in Vermont. Sweet heart of the man,

but it's not gotten one goddamn thing for 30 years. Worth billions has three or two millions. Has three of them to Clinton Sandbag him because they're working for God only knows who the Goldman Sachs and the devil. And, and he goes and says Hillary's great. They're all great. It's all great. The system's fine. I lost. He got sandbagged. Like twice. And he doesn't, he doesn't burn it to the ground. He won't burn it to the ground because that's the version

of the socialist you get in America. And I'm not even like a socialist, but I'm saying like, that's clearly this is, you throw the bond to play Kate someone. It's also their playing a game. His game is to stay relevant. Totally being a politician. He's keeping a senator from Vermont. He stayed there forever. Everybody loves you. Ben and Jerry's. Yeah. For Mont is a really white state of of frozen people of frozen people and it's just a bunch of lesbians.

And I think Alec Baldwin now because he shot someone. Does he live there? No. I think he does.

But I think, you know, Sanders is doing what he has to do to please that demographic of people.

“What do you think happens at 2028? I think I think the donors want Rubio, but Rubio is kind”

of a buffoon. Why do they want Rubio? Because he's not vans is more isolationist than Rubio. And I think vans is more in league with the tech people. Whereas Rubio made the central banking cartels of intergenerational pools of capital that are more invested in the war industry and might be slightly more alone with Israel like Rubio. There are different themes of the super rich. I think the tech guys are relatively new. Not that they don't get involved

in war. Of course they do. But it's not a hunky dory. If you had a banking empire for years and

centuries and you're like, now all these new tech fox are here and you're like, what is this?

And you're like, we make our money with war. And sort of the tech people, by the way. But ever other ways to make money. So I do think vans will get denomination. I know they're Rubio. I used to think it would be Rubio. But I've watched from Rubio recently more. And I don't think Rubio, he's too pathetic. I can't take him seriously. I don't know why. Trump against just a vans Rubio, 2028 presidential ticket or perhaps Rubio vans. So this will probably be those two.

“Interesting. But do you think that people are going to want to buy into another Republican part of you?”

No, no, it'll be a Democrat. I think it'll be a Democrat. It'll put anything wins.

I don't know. I think it's somebody that we don't know who it is. I think it's somebody that

we don't know who it is. I don't think it's news some. I don't think it's AOC. I think it's somebody that comes from a red state who's a Democrat governor or purple state. We don't know who they are yet. They pop up their boring. I think we need boring. I think a boring person's going to come in and just be like, "Hey, I'm the president, reasonable." The show's over. Michelle Obama's a woman. And then a few, you'll hear some of the country go. Because Trump's a drug and you've got

a detox from that. And this whole last decade has been a drug and it's been the craziest decade

“that I've been alive. I remember sitting with you in election night. I remember me when I was sitting”

down. I remember all these things. We're watching these crazy points. I remember the, I remember when when Trump was shot, I remember you're tragically when Charlie Kirk was shot. I remember all of these things that have happened that are just so crazy. And now seems so far away and like they're so far in the past. Gavin Newsom is there. They like this guy John Asaf. Who's that guy? I just looked him up. I didn't know either. He's a youngest and

come at Senator out of Georgia. Yeah. He's having a mall. You could be just nailed it. You just nailed it. You could be him. Look at him. There he goes. Just look at your president. Just put him in. Okay. Yes. Yeah. His neck is medium. It's not too thin. He's got that face. Like Tyler Rico's neck is a little too small. Yeah. Yeah. I've, yeah. That's just how true. A little bit more square jawed. Conservative Georgia radio host

endorses John Asaf for US Senate. If they want to win, they just have to go, hey, everybody, remember health care. Don't you want that? Is he a Republican? He's a Democrat. He's a Democrat, but he's going to larp his Republican in the same way that Spencer Pratt. I'm actually a Democrat. You know what I mean? Worked as a national security staffer. Yeah. He's a spook. Put a man who cares. It's fake at this point. We will go with fake.

How much more evidence does anyone need? Jesus Christ, Tim Dylan. Sorry. Glad you're out there. I'm glad you, you have me in here. Your podcast rules. Thank you, Father. I really appreciate it. Such a great escape. Thank you. It's so beautiful because that just the way you're able to just combine reality with humor is very rare. Well, thank you. The way you're doing it. It's very unusual. It's a very unusual thing you're doing. It's very insightful, political

commentary and social commentary. Mixed in with hilarious takes on things that's very nihilist. Well, I'll keep doing it until I'm putting it to hell. Thank you, brother. Thank you, appreciate it. Appreciate you. Bye, everybody.