JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck

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>> They told Rollo say this for the air. Because Rollo years ago, shit, this had to be like, at least 10 years. >> May 20, 20 is like 2006, 2000, so 20 years ago. Rollo calls me up and he says Tommy Lee wants to meet you. He wants to talk to you about something like, "Oh, okay, sure."

So we go to see his concert. That was when he was a rock and roll supernova, the TV show. >> Yeah, that's right. >> So he had a TV show, a long-beach, right, right. It was good show, you and Eddie came.

>> Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room. Like, he sets his green room up like, if that's a map, there I was part of. He's got tapestries on the wall and candles and incense. >> Yeah, you walk you like damn, like, he doesn't just hear.

>> Yeah, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room.

“>> Right. >> Like, if I go on the road, what's your green room?”

I'll go hang out in there, like it doesn't just walk, but he has it set up. Like, everywhere, it's like calm and relaxing, it's spiritual. And so I meet Tommy and Tommy wants a fight kid rock in the UFC. >> [LAUGH] >> This is true, what makes people think they can do this? >> It's for Pam Anderson's hot.

>> Yeah, well, this is how it started. >> This is kind of how it started. >> That was that way with Pam. >> Yeah. >> Like, you know, they both were married to her.

So, Tommy and her are always gonna be connected because of the kids.

So she had split up with Kidrock and Kidrock was emailing her text and her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her. Tommy is with her, not together, but, you know, they were together that day. And he, as him, you know, your friends would him. Can you call him and tell him to stop, call him and shit?

And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that shit boy. And she's like, you know, if you, you know, please. So he winds up, hitting, you know, him up, and like, look dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call blah, blah, blah. Of course, Kidrock took the heat, fuck you, you know, blah, blah.

So, they're fucking each other back and forth. Goes away. Now, there was some MTV awards thing. And actually, let me back up first. We were in Vegas for a new year's thing.

And there was this rumor that Kidrock was supposed to come with his bodyguard. And like, come the Tommy's room and attack us. So, me, my main chemo, who you know as well, you know,

we're sleeping in Tommy's room, hoping they show up, and of course,

they go to a different room. They do go to a room, kick a door and nothing totally. So they actually went looking for it. And I don't think they went looking for it. I think it was a thing.

What's an obesity? But on the one side, some autographs and they keep it moving. So, I'm saying the Tommy, I go, you know, dude, I go, fucking, I go, you should fight him. One paper view.

And I go, I go, I'll fight his fucking security. Guys, like, we'll fucking make a whole thing of it. And he goes, man, that's brilliant. Oh, my God. So I go, I go, you know, I'm telling you, I said,

“you should do, I said, look, either you fight him and you beat him up,”

or he punks out and you win either way. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I like this. So he talks to his management. Of course, it just goes by the wayside. Well, they're having some MTV awards shit.

Security's not allowed on the floor there. They had their own, like, you know, it was in the casino. They have security for it. While he's sitting in there with Pam, kid rock, like, comes up kind of behind him and pokes him and Tommy sees him.

And he goes to stand up and kid rock suckers him. There he hit him. Yeah. Oh, my phone is getting blown to fuck up. Like, with that, with Tommy, what happened with Tommy?

I'm like, I don't fucking know. Like, I'm not with him right now. And I get a call. I swear, like, 30 minutes later, and it's Tommy. And he's going, fuck him.

He goes, I'm done with that motherfucker. I want to fight him. I'm going to fucking fight him now. I go, he goes, I want you to train me. I go, he goes, I want to move you out.

I go, no. You're moving to me. I go, we're not going to be out here.

“But all your little fucking ass kissers, I said if you're going to do it,”

you're really going to do it. He's working out at all the time. No. So, you know, you're only working out. He does just want to drowns, which he does murder.

So, uh, that is a little bit of argument. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can show you a picture of him with a choke or me. And it's legit.

Like he did train with Hory and then he, I told you guys, he trained something with Billy Blank. So, the shibu is actually a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell. So, I've talked about this on the part of the show. He's a real rat.

He's a real rat. He's a real rat. He was one of those like Raymond Daniels type, Carole.

He's a tiny, early dead. He's a typo guy. He's a typo guy. But we get to that. All right.

Yeah, so I brought him to Billy Blank. I bring him in and I told him. I said, look, when we're going to Long Beach, I said, I know Rogan, I can have him come in and you can tell him your idea. And he goes, I hate height.

So I bring Joe and that, he tells Joe, he wants to fight him. Literally, and Tommy said his sanctuary was his management company at the time. I don't know if his still is or not. So they call kid rocks people supposedly and offer this fucking

fight on pay for view. And kid rocks people wound up calling back and basically turn it at down, say, and whoever loses his ruined for life, I guess. Because looking like a bitch, because they both had the rock and roll to tuck guy, you know, image thing.

“So that's what he said, he said that in print.”

That's literally how it stopped. Was that in print? Whoever loses, this is ruined. It was. No, no, that was the first, that was supposedly the response

from kid rocks management to Tommy's management. That is correct. He would be correct. Yeah, but it's a good fight. Like a Stefan Bonner and Boris.

Oh, my God. Well, that would be different.

Then they both would be revolutionary.

Like that. Yeah, I kind of forget who won that fight. Stefan Bonner, for us. Yeah, first one. I know, first one.

But I kind of forget, because the fight was so good. It was something. That was one of the real ones. Toss up fights of all time. Yeah.

Who fucking knows? And they did the right thing. The contract that Bozeman, we actually talked about it in the octagon right before he did it. Well, did you really think that he should get both of these

motherfuckers of Bonners? Yeah, exactly. Like we're going to do that. Yeah, like fuck yeah. It was amazing.

Do you think if it wasn't for the ultimate fighter, it would have died out? Who knows, man. But it was like lightning in a bottle.

“Because there was another good fight before that.”

Diego Sanchez, fuck, Kenny Florian up. Man, it was a way beating. Yeah. But that was Diego Sanchez coming up. Like people got to see Diego fight too many fights.

They got to see the later fights. They forgot what a monster Diego was. He was trying his prime. And if he was an animal. Yeah, he was grappling.

I mean, Marcelo got him. But, you know, he was an animal. And wanted a best of all time. Just an DCC. Yeah.

Yeah. Is he Diego's a fucking. I don't know. I don't know. Listen, man, you can only get hits on many times.

Agreed. And he was at halfway gone before taking off.

Well, he was always like this open very.

So you're thinking. And we had that guy that was training them. And that you had a little bit of a. Yeah. That's what he was.

What about that loser? Joshua Fabia. Yeah. I don't mention his name. Yeah.

I can't find him. Yeah. Well, yeah. Diego hanging upside down. He was hanging upside down.

He was hanging upside down. Yeah. It was insane. The video isn't saying.

“But Diego was like super, super open-minded.”

Like he was willing to believe in magic. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He believed in himself so much. Diego was like, and he was also like doing weird stuff like he would chew me and spit it

out. He would just chew it down like get all the juices from it and then spit whatever's left out. You wouldn't swallow the meat. But he was fun to watch.

Come on. Yeah. He was fucking animal. Yeah. He was a fucking animal.

Steve Maxwell trained him for the fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane shape. But unfortunately, that was the fight where BJ started. That was when BJ was training when the marina ventures. It was leaping out of poles. BJ was on top.

Yeah. Yeah.

There was a time where I always say, watch BJ is crime.

I put that dude up against anybody. BJ is crime. There's no doubt. I always say he's the best for 55 of all time. He was like in that window, right?

In that window. Would he be mad? He was crime. Yeah. He was a human.

Yeah. Yeah. But you did a lot better with him than I did. Why don't we bring that up? I was just.

I've heard from him. I thought we were on the championship caliber jujitsu. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it got like him relies on jujitsu a lot.

But BJ was just. I was there's two fights. The Kenny 4 not I'm sorry. Sean shirt flight. The Sean shirt fight was crime BJ.

Yeah. Yeah. And then. What about BJ? What about BJ?

What about BJ? What about BJ? What about BJ? That's another one too. Yeah.

But BJ was like four to highly rank the show. Yeah. Yeah. He was a beast. He was just like you're coming up to my way.

Right. Yeah. That type of thing. It was all very. Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. He's good. About that.

Fucking animal. And did real good. Yeah. Yeah. A natural 55er who fought as low as 45.

Yeah. Yeah. But BJ was a monster. He was well rounded two before guys were super well rounded. Yeah.

Yeah. Like he threw hands well. If he just has to go through those marina vitch camps every fight, he would have been unstoppable.

He just BJ would, you know, he would just lose his focus a little bit. I watched a YouTube documentary about like the rise and trajectory and then the later years. It was really well done. But it was all just talking about how did there's this prime BJ.

And that's when he was training with marina vitches and incredible conditioning.

And he could just go fight and not worry about his conditioning. Do you think he wasn't lazyness, right? What do you think it was? A lot of friends, a lot of parrots. Yeah.

Yeah. He's taking a seat to live. Yeah. And basically the thing is of fine. For sure.

For sure. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Everywhere he would go, people like it's beach.

I mean, it was a king and Vegas, man. In those prime years when he was a champ, he was a huge star. But I'm sure he's a huge star in Hilo. It's probably hanging out with the boys all the time. Have it a good time.

Plus his family like had influence there. Right? Yeah. He didn't come from poverty. But it's just like that it's just was real hard to maintain those kind of camps.

Those camps are insane.

He was also super super talented.

And so it's like he didn't have to work as hard to still beat up people. Like in practice. Definitely came his flexibility and like that's still my good. That's true. I remember when I fought him and we were doing a rules meeting.

And this is the time where like we could ask questions. Like they did everybody in the rules meeting. And I'm in the rules meeting and Frank Shamrock was in his corner.

“And Frank's like, are we allowed to in guard kick him in the head?”

I'm like, what the hell? Like he was on my head. Flexibility just wrapping around the back of my head and kicking me in the head from Rand. I was like, what the hell is this guy in the same?

Right. I was like, how the hell is he going to be able to kick me in the head from there? But apparently BJ had that flexibility to be able to do that. He could do double lotus without using his hands. That's crazy.

That's it back and just fucking completely cropped but lotus. Yeah. Like inner locked with no hands. That's insane. Yeah.

His flexibility is bananas. Yeah. And he worked on it. It wasn't just like a natural gift. But how smart was he to figure out if you could use your legs like you could use your arms?

There's so much fucking stronger. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's nuts, man.

He can put his own fucking leg by his head with no hands. That's crazy flexing building. Yeah. That's he was going to kick you while you were in North South. Yeah.

He's going to do that. That is nuts. But is that legal? No. There's a lot of goofy rules, right?

Like that's there's a, I don't think it would be cool to stop people in the head and Socker kick them. But yeah. At least needs to be here. They have to take you to the OK.

Because if you're shooting on a single and you're holding on to it and your head's right there. That's a stupid place to be in real life. Right. Right.

Let's just real life. A real fight. Why wouldn't the guy knee when the head you're grabbing his knee? If you're, you're all hand right here. All he has to do is knee even the face and he can't do it.

Yeah. You're on your knees. And that's be fair. Like a knee when somebody's on the feet is worse than that. Yes.

You know what I'm saying? That's not as far behind as. Yeah. That's not as like if, if you're on the phone on knee when the head. That's still not as bad as if me just knee and you.

Right in the face. Yes. Well, especially if you're caught the mic, Michael Venom Page fight. The one. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. If you ever want to know what's the most destructive strike in MMA? Yeah. The most amount of power you can generate is got to be a knee. A flying knee.

While guys coming in. When a guy is like shooting in on you.

“The only thing I'm, I'm not a fan of is the, the, the jab.”

The kick to the knee. I go to, I'm not a fan of the knee kick. Like yeah. Like some kicks. Yeah.

If you hit it right when you're a little did it. It's just something that if you hit it right. It's an injury's coming in and not a good one. You can't tap. It's not like a knee bar or something.

Exactly. So I kind of think if you can't kick a guy in the side of the knee for that reason. Why should you be able to. If you can kick in the knees, you should be able to kick in the nuts. Yeah.

I love you. All right. I need that way. What are we doing here? We're pretending like he wear cup and I can kick you in the nuts.

There's some good cups out there. I'll just get a steel one. It's crazy. Like why do we have some good rules like that? Yeah.

It's crazy because like every time somebody gets kicked in nuts. You say it.

You always say, why don't you get a steel cup?

Yeah. The fact that no one has a steel cup to me after all this time. It's unbelievable code. And it's ultimate. She's code in, in, in Gar in, in grappling to.

It was somebody. I got you back. I got you back. I got you back.

“Remember, I mean, a rental run of Renevardy?”

- Yeah, yeah. - That's a long time ago. - Yeah, long time ago. I trained with him at Legends, and he mounted me, and he put his cup in my solar practice. Like, I was ready to tap from his deck.

(laughing) - All right, imagine, imagine my piece 265 deal. - Oh, I mean, I'm not always working for a company. - What I train with. - And so, that's a lever for an arm. - Oh, man. - It's like a line.

- You know what's the weird fucking look when the guys wear the whole spandex, and they have that steel cup, so they got my cup. (laughing) - The shenny Carter cup?

- Yeah, it's a good one. - That's a good one. - You remember me, right? Remember that shenny Carter cup?

“I think Eddie fucking talked about it for the entire fight.”

It was a king of the cage fight, and shenny was fighting, and he had a giant couple. And I swear, Eddie just commented it about the size of the cup, there was hilarious. Bro, in the type one, though, Daisy,

they had ones that you'd put on over your pants. So you'd put UWG pants on, and then you'd put these ones on over it, and it had this big strap and go right up to your tank. Like right literally to your asshole,

and then go all the way up like this and you'd strap it in. But it was way better. It was way better, 'cause it was like a more option cup. - No, it was a type one.

It was just for a type one, though. It was just literally designed to wear outside. - So you could kick it out. - And that's when I realized like,

oh, you can never wear regular cups.

Like regular cups move too much. It's just sitting there, and sometimes your nut gets caught between the cup and your leg. When you get hit there, it's way worse. - And I think maybe the UFC should make that mandatory.

- 100% of the weight of your mouthpiece when you wear compression shorts. - Yeah, for sure. - For sure, those like the diamond MMA ones. - That's a cup I have.

I like that. - A legit, legit. - And if you don't want to wear steel, that's fine. You don't want to have dental floss up your asshole. - Right, right.

- I don't. - It's uncomfortable, but that's, I would think, if I was advising someone, I'd say, get a fucking steel cup before they outlaw it.

“- 'Cause they should, you should have a long time ago.”

- You should have to wear that though. I mean, it would eliminate all the nutshots. - If you're smart, you would wear a steel cup 100%. So many kicks you in the nuts, it hurt them, what it hurts you.

Like it protects you from everything. It's uncomfortable, that's all it is, just uncomfortable. - So, I mean, so's fighting. - Yeah, so it's fighting, so it's getting kicked in the nuts. - Dude, I can't believe it's legal.

- I really do, it's like, one of the, how do you have steel in there? (laughing) - You see that? - You see that? - I'll punch 'em.

- You do. - Do you see word every fight you had? - Oh, shit. - Dude, it's, imagine a guy diving on a double and you hip-end to, oh man, slamming his face

with your dick, your dick is a bloody metal. Your dick's covered in metal, and it's legal. - Yeah. - He has a pads on your knuckle. - Right.

- You dip pads on your knuckles, and you got an armor plate over your cock. - Yeah. - I would definitely wear that if I was fighting. - Yeah.

- I'm selling it. - I'm just not selling 'em on my website. (laughing) - Because it's like, there's no way that should be legal. - Yeah.

- Like, how is that legal? - I don't know. - It's fucking metal. You're bringing metal into the equation. A foot can hit metal and knee can do that,

and no one in the fact that no one does it. - It's not. - Well, if you guys do it, we were talking about different guys who've done it, that are currently doing it.

And I know DC did it, but there's a few guys who still do it, and we were talking about it on one of the broadcasts.

“I don't remember which guy I see was pointing out,”

but there's a few guys.

Kenny Florian always wore a steel cup.

- But the fact that not ever got that he's wrong. - Yeah, for sure. - For sure. - For sure. - For sure.

- Yeah. - Oh, that's fucking it. - You're here with Deligrad, I start talking Thai. - No, I never picked Fluent Thai. - Does he really?

- He's got that he's like a guinea from, - Yeah. - He's got it from the boss, yeah. - When he talks, he could talk to Thai people, it freaks them out.

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- Well, he's my man, I go to Boston to stay with him.

- Yeah, it is, his wife always cooks for me.

- What a great truth for all of us. - He's a man, he tried to love that too. - The old me fight a four, we didn't have assigned coaches and he would just work with us anytime we needed him. - Yeah, you know what I mean?

He was great. - And he brought a stack alone, man fucking mountain,

- Yeah, he was awesome as well. - Yeah, he's great, Mark. - He's a really good coach too. You know, who was really impressive, working with him was Kevin James.

You know, Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the King of Queens, he worked with Mark a lot and Kevin's been my friend for years, but I really hadn't seen him hit paths. I saw him hit paths with Delagrade, I was like,

what the fuck dude, I'm like that's good. Like this looks good. - Yeah, he's like, Mark made you look good. Mark make you look good in the show, man. - He's a really solid coach.

- He gave Lungo a black eye. - He did, he was in the spot one time with Lungo, Kevin James. - Did he want to walk it around, like fucking pity from the little guys. - He's like, he's a deceptively fast dude.

- Yeah, he's athletic, you know what I was doing. - When I first met him, he was checked. Like he was, like he was in his big, he got at one point in time,

and he's always kind of seesawed back and forth,

but he was a karate guy. He was always doing karate when he was younger. - He's super athletic. - There he is. - It doesn't look as good there.

- Yeah, it looks as good. - Yeah, man, it looks as good.

“- I think that's when he was just getting into it, honestly, right?”

But he was, he had Delagrade staying with him a while and Delagrade was training him. - Yeah, I saw him in Killcliffe, just like blending him with the guys. Like he wasn't like standing out.

He was just at Killcliffe, just playing in. - Yeah, blending him with the guys, he's a great guy. - I know him forever. - I just seen him in either Becky or the Raff of Becky. - Oh yeah, that's right.

- That's right. - He's a psycho. - And the girl in it is great. - Yeah. - The girl's like a little psycho girl.

- That's a fun movie. - It's fun. - Yeah.

- I think it's the first one called Becky,

and he plays a villain. He plays the other guy that did it was Joel McCall. - Mm-hmm. - Joel McCall played the second psycho. - And one of the other movies.

- I forget it was the first or the second one. - I think he's in the second one. - The Raff of Becky. - Kevin was awesome. - He's good.

- He's a good movie. - Kevin played a good psycho. - Hey, did you ever see the night of the seven kingdoms? - No, I haven't seen that yet. - Yeah, I'm telling you.

“- I'm gonna watch it though because I'm in the middle”

of finishing the first season of the first year, the first all-game of thrones. - Oh yeah. - I haven't seen it over. - Yeah, yeah.

- Are you seeing it already? - I haven't seen it since, like, 2015 or less. - That's a win or something. - It's fucking amazing. - I forgot to say that.

- No, it's fucking awesome. - This, you don't even have to watch any of the game of thrones, 'cause this takes place 90... - Yeah, it's before the first events of the four thrones. - Sir, don't get in the tall.

- Yep. - And it is so good. - It is good. - So well done, and it's based on the novel. I'm a fucking nerd.

I read the graphic novel of it by George R. Martin. - Yeah, yeah. - And I read it back in a day. And it was, it's so great. And you know how they have, like, trial by combat?

- Yeah. - In this one, not to give everything away, but he just guy gets into it and he has to do a trial by seven. So it's seven on seven nights. - Yep.

- And it's like one of those things. He's a hedge knight. It's fucking really good. - Yeah, it's good. - It's great story.

“- Do you have watched the house of the dragon?”

- Yes. - It's a lot of cool shit. - Yeah. - But it's pretty cool. - There are a bunch of pricks.

- Right. - Who's worse than the other? - I mean, back in Game of Thrones, John Snowy, - Right, right. - Right, right. - Ned Storch, you know, even some guys that are, you know,

even just great characters, some guys that are on like, the hound who's doing like the anti-hero. But with this one, it's just a fucking good solid dude, trying to do the right thing. - Yep.

- And he, and by trying to do the right thing, he gets into some trouble and it's just, it gives you like, it's like, like, being righteous and I have like real heroics, like, you know what I mean? Like some shit's like, that's missing nowadays,

'cause it's all about getting a fucking message in there or making such a diverse, which I love, though. (laughing) - No, it's pretty funny about the idea. (laughing)

Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones was like a feminist series. If you really think about it, it really was. But without any fanfare, like, no, bring it up. No one paid attention to it, but the baddest people on that show

with the women, Cersei Lannister was the baddest bitch in the world. Area Stark fucking killed everybody. - Yeah. - Santa Stark had to turn that shit right there. - Yeah, that shit.

Brianna of Tar fucked everybody up, including the hound. - Yeah. - And then you got a feminist dragon. - Yes, and you got to Narris. - Yeah.

- If you knew dragons, who's the baddest motherfucker on earth, you literally can't burn her, and she's been to read dragons. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it's a feminist series, I don't know how that is. - It is.

It's a completely feminist series, but without.

- Yeah, but never even crossed it.

- It doesn't cross your mind because it's so good you don't care. - Yeah. - It's not, it's not like dumb, it's time to watch. - You have to watch that. - You have to watch that thing.

- No, I, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - And House of Dragons is the same way. - Right, at least some of these, like Star Wars movies, where it's all women, generals, and you're like,

(laughing) - Shut up, shut up, shut the fuck up. - All the matter scared of them, and they all get out of the room. - Like, this is fiction, right? - This is nonsense.

it's way better, a lady that has dragons.

“The hottest bitch around, she's got dragons, right?”

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - She likes a bunch of killers. - Yeah, she brings them in her bed. - Well, they do a good job of making them in barbarians. - When they do such a good job of making them flawed,

that you don't even realize that they are the baddest motherfuckers in the world, but they're so, but they're flawed in a way where it's like, it makes them human. - Yeah, yeah.

- I mean, look at Cersei Lanster, all of her kids gone. That bitch survives. She's got a giant demon that watches over. - Yeah, right? - Like, she's gonna love what her brother.

- She fucks up her brother. - Yeah, and her brother. They were what she had, well, I don't spoiler alert. But she had the priest at Torcheter, where she was in the cell, when we finally got her.

- Yeah. - And she's like, I'm ready to meet my maker. She's like, oh, you're not gonna die today. - Oh, oh. - And then the mouth of her mouth.

- She was just like, you're taking it off the line. (laughing) - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - That was such a horrifying scene. - It was such a great show though. - Is there a better, like, world?

- The other thing to do is, yeah, no. - No, no, no, no. - No, no. - No, no, no, no. - You never knew. The biggest character could just get fuckin' murked.

- Like the next episode. - Like the next episode. - The page of Pedro Pascal, they played that. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - He was a kill by the-- - Prince of Prince of Doris.

- Yeah.

- First of all, I never thought they would kill him.

Like, that guy's an important character. - He's bringing all this new life to the show. - Yeah. - And also, you see the mountain, - Yeah, it's the mountain. - He's the one. - He's the one that got live balls.

- Yeah, it was so crazy. - Holy fuck, that was like one of the most disturbing murders scene you've ever seen in your life. - And he was doing great. He was taking a shit on him.

He got two cocking. - Yeah, man, he was doing a work them over. - Thought he had him. - You raped her, you murdered her. You killed her children, some shit like that.

- Yeah. - And it was strutting around while the mountains on his back. - They are. - Yeah, what a crazy show. - Such a good show.

- A lot of the greatest shows of all time. - I'm telling you, you gotta text me after you watch the night of the seven kingdoms. - 'Cause it's all out, you could definitely do it. - I'm gonna do it as soon as we're done.

- It's a quick season seven, six, six episodes. - Each episode is like 30 minutes. - Right, it's your run through.

- The house of track is never really drag me in.

- You know, I was interesting. - Yeah, I was like, I wasn't the same thing. - Definitely not.

“- I think this, the new one is, in my opinion,”

better, I thought. - Oh, the surrogate, the night of it, what I was so excited about these things. - There's parts in it that just get you go like fuck yeah. - Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

I hope they lengthen it a little bit, you know what I'm saying? - Six a half hour episodes. - But I love the relationship between the kid and the, - Don't, yeah, that was the whole show. - Every time the whole show, right?

- One thing I did love about house of dragons when they were trying to figure out who could write a dragon. - Oh, that was cool. - They brought all those people down there. - Oh, yeah.

- Yeah, that's some Targaryen blood. And a lot of that Targaryen's fucked a lot of regular people. So there was search and for a Targaryen blood. Just taking people out of the pub and just pushing in front of the dragon.

- That was crazy. - She first, they, one of the kings, gone. They're like, you know, we tracked you back to whatever. And it's like, oh, it's a great honor. No, I want to do it.

- Yeah, everybody. - Yeah, yeah. - You wish for 'em, other than I'm going to say,

- That's the first up, that scene was nuts.

- Dude, the red, the red wedding, fuck it. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. - You can believe it was happening. - No. - 'Cause we're taking it every day.

- Yeah, you can't be happy. - Dude, you hate the ending as much as I did. - I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like they had a tie it up. And like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

and I should have a bow. You know, I would have been almost better if it was like no country for old men style. - And yeah.

“- I think all shows should be like that,”

because life continues afterwards, right? - Yeah, you don't have to tie it in. - I'm not 12. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Once it got past the books, it took a hit.

- Yeah. - That's a genius. - I mean, the, the, the world that I created and the complexity of all the characters, like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister.

- Mm-hmm. - Oh, my God. - Oh, my God. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, man, I mean to me, that guy was so fucking good, man.

- They're already doing the, the, uh, Swan Sword, which is the second book of, uh, Game of Thrones of the Dunkin' Egg Tales. - Oh, nice. - Yeah.

- Awesome. - That's, that's his right, dude. - That's his, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - He did three books.

- He did three books. It was, uh, a nine of the seven kingdoms, which they just did, they didn't do a Swan Sword, and then it's the mystery night. I don't know anything, but I know a lot of Game of Thrones shit.

(laughing) Don't ask me about Game of Thrones and Star Wars, this is mad. - You're about to. - The world's so fucked up,

you're way better off with that stuff in your head. - That's why I do it, man. - It's such an escape, man. Just to sit home and watch TV. - We were talking about that, dude.

- We were talking about that, dude. - Speaking of Star Wars, I got a, a text that I didn't know where from, uh, from George St. Pierre. - He loves it as much as me.

- Oh, yeah. It was just about the new Darth Maul animated series. - My brother, we, I said it got, yeah. - And he gave me back a report. He told me, he's like, "Oh, it's so far so good."

- Yeah. - I told you, my brother, my brother's like, "I know Matt's in the Star Wars, telling him watch the new Darth Maul."

- It's fun. - I love George. - He's the best. - He's the best. - I have the hardest time convincing people who he is.

It's hilarious. - What do you mean? - When he comes to the mothership and people who don't know anything about MMA, they're like, "What is your friend, dude?"

I go, "That's one of the greatest partners that have ever walked the face of me or a hundred percent." - No, for real, I go, "Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time." - That's like, "Hello, nice to meet you."

- It just seems so sweet and friendly. - Man, that's the problem with MMA is that you have to convince people about how bad somebody was. And it wasn't that long ago.

I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time. - No, no. - And now, but the fans are so new that they don't get it. - They don't go back and watch it.

- They had to watch it. Like, go back and watch the John Fitch fight. - Oh, man. - The prime GSP. - He was fine.

- He was terrifying. Incredible gas tank, great flow between grappling and striking, but you're very creative. - He put that shit together to best. It's why he had such success taken everybody down

like his MMA. - Yeah. - He would set it up as level change.

- And he always, he ran through every take down.

It was never-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He would get stuck. - He was gonna run you across the cage. - George was phenomenal.

“- And then, I think Farazah hobby was a big part of that, too.”

Farazah hobby is a bad motherfucker. - Yeah, yeah, he's smart. - You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns? - Sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's incredible.

- Very incredible. - A student. - He's so knowledgeable of the game, of every aspect of his brother is doing well. - Yeah?

- And his brother's fighting at the White House. - He's fighting Sean O'Malley. And I think people are sleeping on him. - Well, listen, he keeps winning. - Yeah.

- He keeps walking winning. - The one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was Aldo. Remember, Aldo? - Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

- Yeah, for sure. I'm not sure he won that fight. - Maybe. - Because I think they're not being generous enough with the 10/8s in the 10/7s.

- You know, do it enough. - No, no, no. - When it kind of just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you're almost going conscious. You know, like that means a lot.

- I hate the fact that they don't use it enough all because like Dana was like, oh, I don't like it. And now the judges are just like, now we can't do it because-- - Listen, the scoring system sucks.

- Yeah. - Because we stole it from boxing. - It's not, it's not. - Yes. - It doesn't have enough points.

- For sure.

“- It should be like, you should get like a certain amount”

of points for different things. But it would be really hard to calculate. Because there would be have to be subjective, like a parary hits you. It's way harder than if someone's like, you know,

Paul Craig. - Right, right. - No disrespect. - But you don't have to say it. - The consequences are very different.

So if he hits you with a left hook, it's different than a parary hits you with a left hook. So that's subjective. But in terms of like what happens in the fight, you should be counting in submission attempts.

You should be counting in takedown attempts. Like who was more aggressive? Who was more defensive? Who's who implemented their strategy? You should have like a hundred points to work with.

- Absolutely. They got 10 points. Why are we only using two of them? - It's nine and a 10. - Why?

- It's good. - You don't make any sense. 'Cause there's 10 nine grounds. - That are like, uh, could be anybody. - And it's just 10 nine rounds for that.

- He dominated. - That's not. - Well, it's still like, UFC BJJ uses that. And it works better for that

because they're very liberal with the 10/8 and 10/7s. - Uh-huh. - They're like, if it's, if it's close, it's a 10/9. If it's one side, it's automatically a 10/8. So it ain't gonna make sense.

- That doesn't make more sense. - But even in BJJ, I would say you need more points. You need like, it's like, the difference between a 70/30 round where guys dominating you 70% of the time

and a 51/49 round is fucking huge. - Yeah. - It's huge and it does reflect it in the scorecards at all. - Yeah. - So you could win a 10/9 round

the first round where it's like,

you're barely ahead, like, maybe I'll give it to you. And then the second round, that dude, fucks you up and he gets a 10/9 round 'cause you didn't go down. - Yeah.

- But he's head kicking you and you're blocking it. You're getting teeped. Your legs getting kicked all the time. It's still a 10/9 round. That's nuts.

- No. - Just 'cause you didn't go unconscious just 'cause you didn't get knocked down. - I think it's my 80-D's kicking him but we're talking about the close scoring.

I thought Aljo, I thought he should've got that nod against fucking. - Even the way I thought you'd do. - I thought I think there was a-- - The guy got on the...

- Watch the bridge. - Watch the bridge. - Like a minute 30 left and Aljo is winning that whole first round. Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert. - He could be undefeated up with it.

- Yeah, he's a nightmare 'cause if your whole thing is grappling with people and you got to grapple with Aljo, you got problems. - Yeah.

- That dude gets your back. - He's got, - He's been him in 10, 10, 8 round. - Like he was just on his back. - Tom and I didn't have him in that same round

“and they don't know, how is that not a 10, 8 round?”

- He's fighting you, Seth. - Uh, so long. - I said, "Yeah, yeah, you, Seth's allowed." And that's on the 25th of April, but I mean, but I think, you know, if it hits the ground,

I think there's levels to this. - Yeah.

- Did Aljo over Yon in the second fight

was that only the best anybody's ever done with Yon?

- Yeah, straight down. - Right, Andrew.

- First control, just so good when it hits the floor.

That's the difference between him and Maran. Rob, keep getting you down, and up, down, up, right. Aljo hits the floor. - Yeah, you're not gonna. - He just needs back exposure.

He's one of those, some guys they can't jump up on the back. It's not good for them, but they're gonna get tired. Dude, all day long. He'll just go up there, lock that shit on. (laughing)

If you don't getcha, that's his round. Like he's throwing. - His hand-hanging fight was just one of our masterpieces. - Masterpieces. - His grappling is so so good.

- Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit. - No, this is back to take some of the best in the sport period. - Man, I'm not a big fan of his. - Oh, I don't push, I don't push.

- Oh, he's such a nice guy. - I think he does everything right.

“- Amazing, I think it's the one for the young one.”

- I know. - With the neck, that was, I think that was, the person everybody against them. - Those people were wrong. - Yeah, this neck would have been fucked up.

- And look what he gets in this sacrifice. - I mean, he should have validated the entire thing

by the hip and his ass in the second fight.

- But they had to decide at the end. - They had to go on it. - There he is, I agree. - He had to get a fuckin' disc replaced. - It was real.

- That was a real fuckin' injury. - He could be a two-time champ, a double division champ. - I mean, in my mind, he's undefeated at 145. - Look what he did, the Calvin Cater, which was really good.

- Yeah, Calvin Cater's a beast, but it was very impressive. - No Calvin Cater, yeah. - If you're not just the first fight scene, I mean, you'd be like, oh, that guy doesn't belong here, which he obviously does, he's a beast.

But Aljo, it's masterful. He's known as he's good at not getting hit. So it's like, he's not giving you that back and forth, 'cause, and Longos says, you seem 20% of what he could do stand up,

and stand it up. Like, I'd ask him something, what is he's like, he could put his foot wherever he wants it. - Right. - About a kick or something.

He's really, really talented man. I hope he gets his shot.

If he takes out a, you know, you self,

I hope he, they give him a shot again.

“'Cause I think he could be a two-time champ.”

- Well, listen, he's still a bad motherfucker. Like, he's a nightmare for everybody. Especially if he gets a hold of you. - Yeah. - But, I mean, people look at the one fight loses.

They look at the Sean O'Malley fight. Like, Sean caught him perfect. That's just how he, he was, his head wasn't really in that, 'cause he didn't even wanna beat him. - I don't know.

- He didn't even wanna beat him. - They made him, they made him fight that fight. He didn't wanna fight. - Yeah. - But they, like, a whole documentary on it,

where I was like, they kind of twisted his arm, they've like, you gotta do this and they were, - But he injured his body. - But I think he was injured. - There was a quick turnaround. - Yeah, it's a turnaround, a quick turnaround.

- He's the champ. - He didn't feel, he should be forced into, you know. - But he thought the number, he thought they, they thought the paper of you numbers was gonna make up for he thought he's gonna get all this money from it,

'cause he was like, all right, I'll do it. Sean O'Malley's home bring in a numbers that he said, when it was over, he saw the number. He was like, if I knew the numbers was gonna be like this, I don't think I'd have did it.

- Yeah, really? - Yeah. So it didn't do well. - It didn't do as well as he thought he was gonna do based on Sean O'Malley's presence.

- Listen, man, it takes a lot to get people to pay for something today. - There's too much of it when she's to seal it. - It's paramount thing is genius. - Yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

“- 'Cause it all you have to do is have that out,”

which a lot of people have already anyway. - Yeah. - That's genius. - But to make people pay every time to watch fights. - Like, ah, there's so much to watch today.

- Well, that's what I was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me, it was like, it's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight. - Yeah.

- Like, you can be popular, but ain't nobody paying you to pay. - So it's a big difference. - It's a giant difference. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's a giant difference.

- I like that it's a empowerment. - That's a fan though. - Yeah. - It's a safe, it's a ton of money. - I'll pay for, I'll use to pay for every one of them.

- Just Netflix thing is nice too. It's good to see that there's like someone who's willing to throw a lot of money at MMA in another large arena, you know, like Netflix. - What do you mean?

- What do you do it like? - What do you do it like? - Cheat of us, Rhonda. - I think Rhonda won submission, Rhonda. - Yeah.

- Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt. I hope not. I don't know what Gene has been doing. You know, I don't know how long she went

without MMA training at all. You know, she was recently a little heavy. - Yeah. - And that should be great now. - No, she looked great.

- Yeah, she looked great. She got great. - She got great. - She's still like 43 years old. - Yes.

- No, but the question is like, what was she doing in those, was she still training some? That would be my real question. Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I'll gotta go.

- I mean, but with the weight loss, I was the weight gain that she had. There was no weight, she was training and I'm saying anything. - That's what I'm saying. - Like she's back in shape,

and she obviously is bucks on her ass to do that. But how long, like you're saying, was she down? - Yeah, she has developed a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever. Now, Ron is the only hope is to keep going to show God on her.

And then she would pull Gordon Sweeper or on locker.

- On locker, on locker.

- Her arm posture is amazing.

- And preposterous.

“- You know, I think there's too many things to do.”

- Do you do it? - Do you do it? - Do you do it? - She's got her. - She's got her. - Yeah, she's got her. - And she's got her arm bar. - Yeah, she's got her arm bar.

- Like instantaneously, she's just trying to do that. - Yeah, that was, and I should black down on that one. - Yeah, that was so crazy. - No, but I was such a sick transition. - No, but I saw a video of Gina hitting pads with John Wood,

it was kind of recent, it did not look good. How recent was it? - I don't know, I don't know, but it didn't look good. I was just like, it's hard to tell. - It's hard to tell because all this is older.

- She's a big girl, maybe she can stop her from taking her down or something. - But also it's also what were they doing? Were they just working on slow motion shit? Were they just trying to get a movement?

Were they getting in a hard, mid workout, you know? - I mean, either way, just like, mechanically, it didn't look great, mechanically. So I mean, but it could have been, it's like one of them things were like, this could be like her comeback session,

and she's just trying to get warmed up. But who knows, I mean, who knows? Maybe she's, who knows?

You just never know. - You hope so.

- Yeah, I hope it's better than that. - Round one submission. - Let me probably, probably, right? - I mean, come on. - I bet, you know, if you had Pauli market,

you could make some money on that. - Right. - It's like, it's gonna be a lot of bets on that. It's, it's exciting to know that Netflix is doing it. - Yeah. - That's what I like. - I like that there's another place people can go.

- It'll raise, but how sustainable is this though? - That's my biggest question. - Whoever's putting the money up for this is gonna lose her ass. - That's something.

- You think they're gonna make that money back?

“- Right, but here's the thing, it's Netflix.”

- Yeah. - Right. - So Netflix hasn't insane amount of money, and they keep raking it in, like every month, people are paying whatever they're paying. It's just highs like what, 19 bucks for ad-free,

what is it? How much is in Netflix account now? - I think it just went up, right? - Yeah, they've got a lot of money, just coming in every month. They just gotta give people exciting things to want to watch,

and they'll keep making more money, 'cause more people use Netflix. Like, it would seem like they're gonna lose their ass, but they're not, 'cause they have a completely different business model.

Obviously, I'm not a business man. 899 to 2699 per month. I'm in fact, I'm a terrible business man, but I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome shit,

so they keep tuning into Netflix. So in that sense, they're not gonna lose any money, 'cause there's a lot of them in the main fans that probably subscribe to Netflix, just so they can watch that fight.

- Right. - So who's on the card now? It's like, for their pay-lins versus in Ghana. - Right, yeah. - Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz.

- Right. - Oh, it's cool, rubulous to Spain. - Yeah, the Spain, yeah, I would do it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And Junero Santos.

- That one, yeah. - Yeah, that one is like, who's it? - Rubela's to Spaniard. - That, to Spaniard. - Tobacco, karate, combat, dude.

- He's a tech-wondo black belt from Cuba. - Wait, was Junia? - Yeah, how old's Junia? - He's 50 now. - Is he 50 now?

(laughing) - He's close. But he's in good shape, I actually did a week spoken to high school a couple of months ago. - Well, I've led to here that.

I made at least these guys get an outlet to make some extra money. - Yeah, man. - Who does that have in this area? - Adriana Moriz is a, you know, that's a,

well guy that's probably gonna school them, but I mean, they got some, they're giving guys some opportunity. So you got to like this. - Absolutely.

- Yeah, absolutely. It'll be a big show. A lot of people tune in. Diaz and Perry's gonna be fucking bananas. That'll be really fun to watch.

- Yeah, that's, I mean, that'll be worth the price. - Yeah, imagine if it was 10 years ago. - I guess it's quite weird. - I'm looking at this, it's like, it's the GLLA went to fucking, it came true.

- It came true. - And GFL? - The member like, we're all eating. - Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - They just stole all their talent.

- Bro, Diaz versus Perry guaranteed dog fight. - Oh, just as guaranteed dog fight. - That will not be anything more fun.

“- I think the jujitsu is gonna be too much.”

- I kind of think that. To act kind of thing, Nate might just drag him deeper, right? - What are you gonna see? - You know, we're gonna see. - Holds five rounds.

- Five rounds? It's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I wonder why they agreed on that? - Interesting.

- Yeah. - Why do you think they agreed on that? - I didn't realize. - Is the gene of fight five rounds or is it three rounds? - Three rounds.

- Three when they first announced in the gen of five by five for everything, but they've been gone. - Oh, it's just a bit. - Well, it says five by five. - This one says four.

- Yeah, just for those two, though, this one does not. - And that's how it does it. - And it only says these as a main event. - I mean, I can't imagine that it's around four or five rounds. - It actually does.

There it does. It says it really hard to see it. By five. - Right, professional, yeah. - Well, Lorenz Larkin back in the day. I remember he fought Neil Magney.

He was hitting them with the oblique kick to the chest. And I was like, I do not think I've ever seen him by throw it down. - Do you ever see that fight? - No, I don't remember that fight.

- He tuned Neil Magney up. - The Lorenz Larkin was a bad mother. - I do remember that. Like he had as he had a good little run. - So he's striking was elite.

- Yeah. - And when he fought Neil Magney, he, you know, Neil Magney's a tough, fucking dude. - Dorable guy.

- Dorable, incredible discipline and endurance.

And he was just getting tuned. Look at this. - Ooh.

“- I mean, he's throwing a oblique kick to the ribs.”

That one there he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it. But earlier before that, he caught him on the rib cage. - This spot. - Look at that.

- Look at that. - So that's crazy. - He gave him a spot again.

- That's the second look at it.

But right here, you're seeing him. He's blasting him with this kick that nobody throws like that. That's a crazy position to put your hips in. - That's crazy.

- Well, he was sharp. - How did this one end? - He stopped him. - Oh, did he? - Oh, shit.

- Yeah, Lorenzo's all over him, man. It was one of the prime performances that I've seen of him fight. - He had a good little run. - He had a great run.

But during that run, and this was like, he came from Belto, right? - Yeah. - He came off from Belto, and he was still a red hot. - Yeah.

- Red hot. - That's something. - Yeah. - Two guys that were in Belto, which is a pit bull and Aaron Peaco, they were hit right there fighting this week.

- Yeah. - And how much time do you think a guy like Peaco is supposed to take off after Lorenzo? - We were just talking about that. - Because I love his offense, man.

He's a little rigid bull. - Animal. - And strong, powerful. - He just got caught. - And he got caught perfect.

- And when he was just perfect. - I think he got stopped more than once what a bad knockout like that. - Yeah, man. - He's rich by that.

- You don't want to go through your career with the kid from Kilcliffe, and Eric. - Yeah. - Adam Burke, he got him with a fly-in knee. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - You don't want too many of those. - That's right. - But those put him out, man. Like you just see him just go, boom.

- Yeah. - That Macy Boba won the other day. - Ooh. - Dude, that was just one of the greatest finishes in women's MMA.

- Oh, no doubt. - I wanted to reach out to Macy 'cause I felt so bad. - I wanted to reach out to the doctor. - Dude, what the fuck are you thinking? - He's just so bad.

- Yeah. - Oh, yeah. - I'm gonna fuck it, man. - Yeah, so crazy. - Yeah.

- He's like, I'm like, "Guess, no, I'm like, "Somebody, the cameraman, please get off this." Or somebody talked to the doctor, 'cause I don't know what the fuck. He was just over like, man.

- Man, this is fucked up. - I don't think he knew exactly what was going on.

“He probably has no experience in combat sports, right?”

- Yeah. - He didn't realize that she got knocked out. - And while she was out cold, she got strangled. - She transitioned so fast. - Like, she's out there.

She's out there. - She's out there. - She's out there already, and then she gets strangled.

Like, that's never happened before.

- What's crazy is she was-- - Look at the way he keeps his head. - Kind of still reacting, and then when they put her on her back, she just, it was, well, I don't know what she went on the limb. - As she was trying to sit up, she went limp.

You see right there? Like, she was trying to get up, and then as the guy has his arm around her, she goes limp. - Dude.

- There's like, there's a sea level cane, and then there's South Paul Alexa. When she fights South Paul, man, she is dangerous. - Then this confused, Dr.

- She's gonna-- - Yeah. (laughing) - Right. - No, she's this before.

- Hey, crazy. - Look at her, right? - He's like, he's like, he's just, well, she's kind of coming to her, she's going blanking. - That was just holy shit.

- And the speed that she took her back. - Yeah, it's-- - Yeah, boom, boom. - Back, choke on maze on it. One shot while she was out still,

cracked her again, got her back and choked her, all like a lightning bolt. - Oh, super. - But that's the same combination. - She hit Valentina with when she finished her.

- I feel like there's a fire. - There's a fire. - Left hand, boom, took her back. Took her while, it took her longer, but look at this. - Stream.

- So she's in trouble, bam, right there. - It's how cold and then strangled. I don't think that combination of how cold and then strangled is ever happened before. - No.

- 'Cause I mean, she's seen what, this punch she had, that's a cool cold, right? And then boom, sick. - That's crazy. - Oh, crazy.

- She's tough, man. - Oh, man. - All backwards in front of you after the knockout, you know.

- Well, so here's the thing.

“She gets up and when she gets up, I think she faints.”

Like I think she tries to get up just when. - And then-- - He, Mike puts his arm around her and she's out. - I think she fainted. - That's just scary.

- Just scary. And she also had had some problems before. We're with seizures. - Yeah. - She had to pull out of that fight with Aaron Blanchfield.

- They had seizures in the locker room, right? - So they still allowed her to fight, even though she's had seizures, that's pretty crazy. - Well, it depends on what's causing the seizures, right? If they know it's a medication that she was on,

they get her off the medication, like there's, I don't know what caused the seizures. - Well, that's just not gonna help the seizures. - But it certainly wouldn't make me enthusiasm to go about fighting.

- Yeah, it would have to fuck with your motivation if you already haven't seizures. - I wouldn't want to do it. - Yeah. - And now after that, I wouldn't want to do it.

Anytime you fight, that's a possibility. - Yeah. - I mean, look at a guy who never once looked, took anything remotely like that, like, a Kumara Usman.

And then that's the closest thing I seen to that, which he got stopped with that headkick. And that's a possibility anytime you make that walk.

“That's why you've got that fucking little.”

- You letting it. (laughing) - You know, before you walk out there, the Kumara Usman was nuts too, because John Anick was just saying, 'cause DC was like,

a lot of people would quit in this situation, and John Anick said something along the lines up, but that is not the cloth from what you said. - I know. - And then, I mean, that was like the most perfect timing ever,

ever, like a movie. Like, if you saw that in a movie, like, shot up. 'Cause I just came in and was like, yeah, I think he's broke. And then DC was saying it, and then John intervened with,

he's not cuffing that cloth, and it was nuts. - What is that new nuts? - Russell Crowe's doing a new MMA movie. - Yeah, is that supposed to be the UFC? - No, it's just, I mean, one after a year,

one after a year. - Oh, they did it with an interesting thing. - Yeah, yeah, I wasn't that scared of you. - Yeah, but I mean, like, the fighter's like, my age, I'm like, yeah, it's going on here.

- Coming back, like Randy Couture, we're the title of these 40s, you know? - Yeah, man.

“- One has some wild striking fights, man.”

- Some of the absolute best stand-up fights in the world are happening on one. I watch it all the time.

- I never know when that shit's on.

- Yeah, well, where do you watch this? - This fucking cat out of Dagestan. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? I also do a La Imangazilev bro. This dude is, I think he's 135 pounds.

I think that's what he fights at. - And he's like, six foot one. And just a laser beam striker. I've just falked people up, like literally might be the best striker in the world.

- Is it just kickboxing? - Yeah, and he's getting in there with Moitai. He's getting in there with world Moitai champions and KL in them. Like, three time world,

Lupini Moitai champions. - Damn. - Lupini Stadium, guys. - This guy is a fucking straight killer dude. And he's from Dagestan and he can wrestle.

- Damn. - You got it. Let's see if he can find like a highlight real of his chaos.

“'Cause this is just like, get on YouTube.”

- The final shot was named. - I watched this cat every time he fights. I just can't, he's so fucking accurate and he's so slick. - How old is he?

- He's 22. - Damn. - Yeah man, I'm telling you, this 22 year old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on earth right now. This dude is so impressive.

And I'm telling you, he's doing this to do the tour world champions. - Oh! - He's taking out world champion kickboxers, world champion Moitai fighters.

They're putting him in there with these fucking assassins and he's making them all go night night. - Put that. - Oh. - But you got to see it in real speed,

like you see his real movements. It's so impressive. - Is he what I'd be even him though? - I don't know where he's trying to out of, but he's from Dagestan.

- Bro, it looks like a beat. - Yes, like a little bit more robust to beat. But it's different, like Zippy, that more of a,

you know, he had an incredible style,

but it was almost like more Taikwondoish. This guy's pure Moitai, but he just fucks people up man. - Back here too. - Oh, he's spinning heel kicks, everything. Knees the body, but it's the combinations

the way he's throwing them. He just finds these openings on people with this precision that you like mother fucker man. He keeps the pressure on too. - He's a flat line of folks.

One after another flat line of people. - Bro, he's very fucking impressive. And again, very impressive against World Championship caliber Moitai fighters. These are not scrubbs that he's fighting to aim.

And once putting these fights on all the time, and I was trying to tell Dane to this, I was like, if you guys had like UFC striking, do you know what fucking exciting that would be? If just Moitai with MMA gloves on?

- Well, they should do that. They do a hundred BJ now. - We're gonna do a hundred percent. - They're missing out on a giant opportunity, because how many people boo with a fight goes to the grow.

Boo, mm-hmm.

- These guys never go to the ground.

- Right. - It's just awesome. - And kickouts in so much more brutal than boxing. - Way more brutal. - Yeah.

- It just didn't get a fair shake in America. - Yeah, no. - It's not that it's not exciting. It's the most exciting aspects of the UFC. Others are in a great submission like Alexa Grosso after a knockout.

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I could watch him do that to drink. It's all day long. I don't give a shit. That's masterful. - Masterful.

- Get him off you. - Get up. - People like, oh, that's a shame, but he doesn't take chances to get, he's not like, he's not trying to beat the shit out of them.

He's getting them tied up and he's beat them up and he's working them over. I mean, what do you want them to stand up in the crucifix? - Yeah, what are you talking about?

- Yeah, I mean, that's drink is his problem. - Drink is need to get them, yeah. - Yeah, 100%. - And I don't, I don't believe in standups at all period. I think the only time you stand up is someone fouls.

“If someone does a foul and then you have to stand it up,”

take a point away from them, maybe then you stand them up. - Yeah. - You shouldn't reward a guy for having like the shit defense. - If the dude holding the bottom is the one that failed, put him back where they were.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. - Yeah, definitely. - But other than that, why are you letting people stand up? Why? - Guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground.

- Maybe he's taking a break for a couple seconds and catching the breath. - Yeah. - You know, like, what the fuck do you want? - Yeah.

- Like, figure out how to get up. - Yeah. - Bottom people just had to be better. - Also, you know what, how to fix that? Here's how you fix that.

- Knees to the head to a down to part. - Absolutely. - Absolutely. - And then it's like a fix that. - It's all out of the, yeah.

- Ressels, then wrestlers become super fucking dangerous. - Man, we'll call him in one of the grand previously. - Yeah, yeah. - Then you see the solution. - Yeah, bro.

- Did you like the smash machine? - I did. - It was good.

- I thought the rock was amazing.

“I thought it was acting, like, like, you didn't think it was the rock, you know?”

- I haven't seen it yet. - I mean, you thought it was Mark Kurt. Like, you even got a forehead thing? - Yeah, you got, like, rubber, put on his forehead, or whatever the fuck--

- To give him a little, like, yeah, make him more in the end. - Yeah, that's a little crumagnetic. - Give him a little Frankenstein for his almost seen by scene. It was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary.

- It was really good. - The documentary, it's like the same shots, the same story. - So if you seen the documentary, which was great. - Yeah, scene car.

- It was a great guest. - I had him in the podcast, he was fun. - Yeah. - It was a cool guest, you know? - No kidding.

- Yeah, he was really fun. It's just a real intelligent, like, easy to talk to. - Like, where did he live now, like it? - He was like, yeah, his Arizona. - Well, I saw him in early UFCs when I was a backstage interviewer.

He submitted Dan Babish with his chin to his eye. - I remember that. - I remember that. - Yeah, I remember that. - That was crazy.

- I remember when he came on the scene, well, the UFC scene when the old Ranger stopped me in the face. - Yeah. - Yeah, I remember ripped rules.

- Well, we were about to find 40 high esteens, and something like that, the karate. - Oh, yeah, I don't know. - Yeah. - I don't know.

- My favorite mark, Carfay was against Fabio Gergell, down in Brazil. - Oh, it was crazy. - That's where he got his name? - Yeah, man, that's, that's my shit.

- I was a big Fabio fan, and, like, I mean, if you can't have respect for that guy, after that beating, he took it.

- We were never, never fucking thought about quitting.

- Crazy. - Yeah, head darts and everything. - Who said yes to that? - Yeah, right, let me put you guys aside. - I'll explain physics.

- Yeah. - And now, I need to introduce you to steroids. - Yeah, that was to combine physics and steroids, and like, no, you're not fighting Mark, right? - If you look at the time, that's when

Gets you still had the mystique about it, though. - True, you know. - True, back when they weren't looking for it. - But that kinda killed, but like, that's when they're like, the beginning of the end of like,

the guard started, for MMA, it was like that. - 'Cause like, those big wrestlers was just like, "Oh, you mean all I got to do was block his hips." - And I can't believe you, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- There was, do you remember when Mario's sparing fought Egor's and Ovia? - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, Mario's sparing is like, one of the first Gets who black belts to lose in MMA.

- That's right, yes.

“- We all thought you Gets who black belts were invincible, right?”

And Mario's sparing was elite. He was a really good black belt, yeah. And so he fought Xenoviav and Xenoviav stopped him. - I remember that, yeah. - And Mario was doing everything right.

Mounting him correctly, doing everything. But then he would just do one of those weird, like, super big bridges, and then his, because he had endurance, and he was able to just, withstand his attack, he ended up cutting him

or something towards the end. - Yeah, it was a big cut. They stopped him from a cut, right? - Speaking of all those cool guys, Gets who was at the UFC last week,

Marillo Boostermarch. - Oh, yeah, yeah, he was, he was correct. - He was the bottom-up twice. - Yes. - The world title of the event.

- That's right. - Yeah, he also fought 45 bit. He would, Tom Erick's Tom Erick. - Before if I remember that. - Oh, yeah.

- I thought, I thought for real, beat Chuck Ladell too. - Honestly, and that's right. - He might have, yeah. - Some of the, he was a bad mother fucker. - It was really good boxing and the same Gets too.

- Really good boxing.

One of the first guys from like that,

Carlson Gracie team, along with Good Racer too. Like he had good takedowns, you know, for bad. - Yeah, but like that's my point. But he's at the UFC just cornered and Jose Delano.

And I'm like, yo, I need to give a lesson on this guy. Like he's one of my favorite fighters of all time. But no one knows who he is. - That's crazy. - He's a legend.

But you know, there's so many people now. It's like time just goes on.

“- Yeah, what's the color Carlson had back in the day, man?”

- Dude, I really did. - His school in '96, when all that was going down, when right before V-Tor got into the Llorio. - Oh, huh? - Or Carlo Barado.

- Yeah, Carlo. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sergio Cohen, he had a bunch of beast men. And we've watched them all train together. Mario Sparrow.

Mario Sparrow was telling us a story about how he, when he was just starting out in Getsu, he made his girlfriend sit there and he just put her in triangle after triangle after triangle. (laughing)

She can't complain anymore. (laughing) Watchin' TV, just practice in triangles on his tail. - We were lucky to, we were talking last night about how fortunate we were to come up when we did, you know.

And like even back at Hanzo's, and you had Hanzo, you had a high in coming through, you had Matt, you had Ricardo, you had Sean Alvaro. It was like, we just had a ton of killers, you know.

And back then, it was, I always joke about the tap-out shit.

But if you saw somebody in Airport in '90s, what a tap-out shirt on, you were like, you know, where you trained, you know. - Right, right. - That went like J.C. fucking pennies.

Which is cool 'cause it was, - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughing) - But it was pretty well.

- I had some tap-out shirts, everybody did it. - Right. - Those guys were fun. - Yeah, definitely. - It was a weird time, that time of MMA,

if you go back to like, you and I first met. I was like, what year was that? - 2001, we met. - Crazy. - That's crazy.

- 'Cause you weren't a commentator yet, but I feel like Kelly Delante, and you gave me a nice shout out. - Oh, it's something. - Who need more of that jungle jiu-jitsu,

like Matt Serriot? - When you tore that bottle. - But I'm like, oh, they should've hit up. - Yeah, that's funny. - Yeah, that was 2001, 'cause I mailed you a shirt.

- Yeah. - Thank you, and then you called me Academy, and I'm like, oh, what's up? - That was funny, man. - Nice, crazy.

- But jiu-jitsu was so physical then. Like it was a physical thing. - Now it's so intellectual, and like these nerds think they are the only autistic kids - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- And that ain't, and that ain't they only. And it's like, yo, what are you talking about technique? - Yeah, it's like they're talking chess moves. - Yeah, if you don't know the name, and there's like, you don't know that, it's like dude.

I know that, I like, what's the, what when you go for the, they call it the K-Guard. - Yeah, shit, man, man, man, man, it's just 90s, man. - Right. - At first I'm like, oh, what's the thing,

no, you don't know the K-Guard? Then they show it, oh, yeah, yeah.

It's never called it the fucking K-Guard.

(laughing) But it's funny, you bring up Merilla Booster, my aunt, hey, we talked about Fabio Gajal. Back then, and I know you just to evolve, but if you take those guys, you put them in the Abu Dhabi,

submission tournament, you put them in the BJJ, IBJJF, and you put them in an MMA fight, did you chitchatose the same? - They carry over you. - Yeah. - And they may not win, but it's a competitive. - Yeah, yeah, they have a win, they're on the right.

- Yeah, they have it across the board. - Yeah.

“- Someone that you should just, just use the scissor,”

just use the legs, you know what I mean? - Yeah, sure. - That can't transfer over. - Here's what fucks my head up. If you gunned in my head, said to me, who do you think has the best jujitsu in MMA right now?

My head would go, Charles Oliveatt. - Charles Oliveatt. - I was getting right back. - Charles Oliveatt, but I guess it was my first. - Islam, I could chab, finished him on the ground.

So how can I say that, right? - Right. - So it fucks my head up because I'm like, if you think about like a lead expressions of jujitsu in the ground, like one of the most dangerous guys

off his back, Oliver. Oliver is so dangerous everywhere. If he gets on top of you, you're fucked.

I mean, it was just that Max always defences so tight

and he's so tough that he didn't get finished. - Right. - Why did you do that? - The chef was crazy, it was that he was able to just manhandle him and take him down. I mean, Max, nobody took Max down.

Like he manhandled him, it was bananas. But I think Max is a guy that is like, he can fight it 45. I think it was really hard when he went up to 55 and then went down to 45.

But at 45 in his prime, it was a perfect weight class form. When Oliver was fighting at 45, he was killing himself. - Like he thought like, he just was fatigued easier. But then when he went up to 55, then he became Charles Oliver, you know?

It was really all at 55 where he made his mark. - He tried that shit though with Ilya. He did try to take him down and he tried it. - Yeah, Ilya, Ilya, what did you know? - He's definitely a lot of him.

- Yeah, he's definitely a lot of him. - He's not another level. - Super well rounded and people haven't really even seen that yet. - He's on another level where I can't wait for his next fights.

“Like when he's fighting, I'm like, what is he gonna do now?”

- Yeah. - Because I think he's getting better.

they're approached to it.

There's a documentary on YouTube, but they're like talking about how they're breakdown, all their fight camps and what they're doing and the different stuff that they train in, like these dudes are on another level.

- I mean, what you think about, if a fight between like Ilya and Islam were to happen, like think about like the magnitude of that of like, not only just like star power, but just in terms of skill. - Oh my god.

- Like breaking that down. - In terms of skill. - Oh my god. - Like two of the best skilled fighters of all time. - Of all time.

- Yeah. - That would be an insane fight. - And I just really would like it if it happened to be at 55. Like Ilya, what's happened to him so much? - Yeah, if 55 would be better.

- Because Islam at 170 is probably walking around a buck 90's if for sure. - Yeah. - Fuck it jacked.

“- I think I'm in should be spoken about too.”

- 100%. - Yeah. - Look how he-- - 100%.

- And he said a pretty good fight with Islam back when he--

- How many years ago is like 21? - Yeah. - I mean, scrambled. - Oh God, do you have to say, if the scoring was correct, I think.

I think Olivera would have beat him in that fight. 'Cause Olivera threatened him with submissions. - That is true. - A couple times. - A couple times.

- A couple times. - That to me is more valuable than holding a guy down. - The Norman Threaten, he had an arm choke with him when-- - Well no. - He was kind of on a run.

But he was kind of on a run more often than we remember. - Like it. - In terms of inside the guard of Olivera. - Like he was kind of, you know, he was on the run. - It's dangerous in there, man.

It's not like everybody else's. Like there's only a few guys like him and, you know, Paul Craig, bro, Paul Craig could latch on a fucking triangle. Like that guy's beaten world champions. - Yeah, I think about it.

He beat your ball, broke his arm. - Broke his arm. - He beat uh.

- Uncle Lyle's stopped him with like one second to go

in the third round with a triangle here. He might have one of the best try-- - Who's that one dude from back in the day that won all his fights by triangle? - Dustin, no.

- No, English guy. - Yeah, um, I know exactly what you're talking about. - Oh my God, it's yeah. - The little skinny English guy. - Yeah, yeah.

- He like was all the triangles. - Oh yeah. - He had the triangles in the world. - Yeah, this one move. If you can get you to the ground,

and let's just like the round you were a fucksville. - Okay. - Paul Sass. - Yeah, Paul Sass. - Paul Sass, Paul Sass.

- Yeah, he was a beast. He'd get you in that triangle, you're fucked. And for Barissia, overdooms another one, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he was that he triangleed Fadoor,

or Fadoor was Fadoor.

“I know he's tell people, if you want to look at”

one of all time greats in heavyweight, don't look at all losses and shit. Stop right here in the prime. Who has tapped out more legends than for Barissia overdooms?

- Minotauro, Fadoor. I mean, that is crazy. Just those two came for lasquids. - Yeah, that's true. - He's tapped out all the legends.

- That's true. - And they weren't past the prime either. Fadoor was sorely in his prime. - 100% with Fadoor. - I would be watching that live.

I think it, oh my god. - Oh my god. - He ran right into it. He ran right into it. - He didn't jump into it.

- Brilliant. - Yeah, his duty as he was like scary off his back. - Yeah, Fadoor had no respect for the guard. - It's just, you know. - You know what I was trying to tell him.

- Yeah, just fed it till him. - Yeah. - I mean, he can't do that with a guy like that. That's a different level. - And plus he hit Colby and he had to have a boomerang.

- Remember that? (laughing) - He's like wrong with that. He's like watching that as well. - That was my favorite video of all the time.

'Cause he hit him with the boomerang and then the bag and he called me and he's reaching out for the bag. - Yeah. - You gotta give him some points for that. - At all the people that I thought I was definitely

gonna see in the White House lawn, it was gonna be a Colby company that fight. I was like, how is he? - How would the gengot of a Colby Coveyton fight at the White House?

- And I don't know. - He's like super supportive of Trump or his Trump hats everywhere. - Right. - And he's not a fight against him.

- He didn't get up. - They didn't know come up. - How did he not happen? - I don't know. - I don't know.

- Yeah, but that's a different way class. - Bo Nichol a big dude. He's at 85. - He's at 85 or. - That's a, you know, Colby's not a big 70.

“- Is he set the fight with a great size for himself?”

- The Colby? - No. - Just one minute extra. - Just one minute extra to match him. - Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. - Yeah, I think Chris, a little big for him.

- Yeah. - And I think that should go well for one. - Who was Joaquin fighting next? - Brace on a really short break. - Is that in my amp?

- No. - No, that's in Jones and Jersey. - Is he? - Yeah, that's right. - I'll be out there for a while.

- I'll be out there for a while. Joaquin was on a tear until Camaro got a hold of all of this. - That's shout out to Brady. - That's why that's one of his shirt. - As the two guys that are like most worthy

for shot at the Welterweight title, I mean, you got to think in Gary, but you also got to think Camaro because he doesn't have much time left and he's a legend, right? One of the greatest Welterweight of all time. And then he just beats Joaquin buckly like that.

- I mean, like walking buckles all done. - Fucking monster. - Buckly was on the fast rise. - No, I don't want your boy to shit out of Colby.

- Full clip. - Yeah, believe it.

- I don't even watch them.

We're watching them for a month now. - No, I shouldn't be ready, I did that. - Full turtle shell. - Yeah, yeah. The pack is so preposterous.

- Yeah, he's staying at that weight, right? - Yeah, he's not going down. What about Oldberg and Jerry this weekend? - You know what, man? Oh, if you're looking at it on paper, if you just watch

their movements, Oldberg is really fast. He's really accurate and he's slick and he's a big tall mother fucker with great skills. Yuri creates chaos and in that chaos, you don't know exactly how someone's going to respond

when the guy's still there when you crack them and he's all low for you and he's doing wild shit. He's got a fucking ponytail at the top of his head. - He's a maniac. - But he's not faking it.

- Oh, no, he believes everything he says. - That's how that dude really lives. - Yeah. - He really does hit trees in the woods. He goes out there with a mucky wire.

(laughs) He does all the hard-style Japanese shit and, you know, he spends time in the woods by himself alone. - He does, he swims under the ice, he does the... - Yeah, I saw that, I actually saw a video on it.

- Fuck that dude.

“I mean, you have to find with a hole in it.”

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We had some people in there too just in case he didn't let him do this in man, just look at that dude. His ancestors came over on a boat with a skull on it and they had fucking swords, he had hopped off

and started slicing, all of them guys. - That dude is a mother fucking Viking. - Whatever he is, those warrior jeans, like that's in that, that dude takes you to hell. He takes, he just can't do it without it.

- He's got his way, that's it. - That style just doesn't work with Pereira. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying.

- So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying.

- So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying. - So that's what I'm saying.

- So that's what I'm saying. - 25.

- Here's what, here's what one of the people are sleeping on.

Mersicon on. - Yeah. - Who? - He's on his head. - He's on his head.

- He's on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head.

- He's on his head. - He's on his head. - But Mersicon on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head.

- He's on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head. - He's on his head.

- He's on his head. - He's on his head. - Yeah. - He's in there and he calls himself the professional, and that's like, he seems like a hitman, like some Russian hitman.

- Yeah. - He comes to fucking kill people. - He believes in his power. That's a fact. - It's not just his power man.

It's his skills. When I look at him, I'm like, this is a smart guy. He moves like a smart guy. Everything's calculated. Everything's technical.

He's really hard to hit clean. He's a slick character. He does shit too.

“He overreaches, but he overreaches, I think, on purpose, to get reads off you.”

If he senses the guy's moving away, he'll come in with big shots of the doesn't, to try to get you to react and then counter. Like that right hook that he hit him with was almost like a jab, that he dropped a rocket with. Just saw this movement, that rocket's kept doing over and over again.

Bang! Came in with like a straight, right jab. - Almost like a hook jab. - Palo's got a chin. - Look at that.

Watch that again. Look how slick this is. Boom. - He's a killer man. He doesn't know what Palo constantly's going to look like at 205 though.

- He's never forwarded that one.

- Well, did Mike once went to the 8th week for 85? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He forced Martin for 20.

He was like, "Not as tight as a 205 now." - Remember that? - Yeah. - Is he fucked his mind up, I think? - He definitely did.

- But he looked at best. He looked his last fight. Like he copped a law, if he just ran through him. - Dude, you go back to when he was walking people down, like walked down, yellow. - Yeah.

- Well, I remember. - I remember when he salute a while, remember, the fight as my favorite part. - Yeah. - That's a great idea. - That was a great fight.

But nobody walks down, you're well-remailed. - Yeah. - There's that photo, that one photo of him head kicking you out. And you know, all's faces like all distorted. - And you're like, "How did he take that shot?"

- This is neck. - Yeah. - Of course he is. - You know, his neck is fused. - Yeah.

- That's what he is. - Oh, one thing. - So it does it move. - It's connected to his skull. - That's crazy.

- Yeah.

“- And then, that's what he said in these comments.”

- Look at that, look at that photo. - Oh, wow. - That photo is bonkers. Imagine how tough you got to be to be B-O-L Romero and take that to the head when you know your neck

has been through an insane operation. We have metal connecting the fucking spine of your neck to your head. - So are they implanted monster traps to hold his head? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- He's a such a freak. - Yeah, he's a athletic freak. - And you see he just fought fair enough for Simon.

- Yeah. - And a lot of people disputed the decision. They thought he should have won. - Yeah. - In Russia.

- Yeah, I don't know. - Yo over Mero, in Russia, I don't know how he does it. - He looks great. - Yeah, I don't know how he does it.

“- If you told me when he was 32, I believe you.”

- He's R-A-F as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, who would he be pat down here? - He's down here. - And then he came back and he had you back.

- But he lost the next one. - Yeah, but he was wrestled a little bit. - Yeah, dude, the guy that I'm most impressed with in that is Armand. - Oh, yeah.

- Yeah. - I can't believe how good he is to do wrestler. - Yeah. - Who's the duty tech fault, George E. - George E.

- George E. - Don't know. - Lance. - Oh, Lance, Palmer. - That's our Lance Palmer.

- Yeah, Lance Palmer. - Yeah, Lance Palmer. - Yeah, Lance Palmer.

- For sure, Lance was like, oh, he's never wrestled at my level.

He's never wrestled guys at my level. - The arm and go at their tech fault, right? - Right, sure, sure. - George E. - Yeah, but even George E.

- Well, like you watched those videos that he does, that's like about $100,000 to $1000 or whatever it is. - Armand is a fucking bad man, dude. He's a bad man. - I know it.

- Yeah.

“- If you want to fight for Ilya at 55, that's a very interesting fight.”

- Is it true? - That's true. - Because he's hard to hit. He's very slick and tactical, super flexible. Like, you've ever seen those weird, like,

mobility exercises he does with twists and shit. - I know, he's crazy, crazy flexibility. - He's definitely in his prime, man. He can't waste his life away right now. - Stop it, but if you can't do the right thing,

because you are in your prime right now. - Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. - He probably might already be champ, if he could bite it together outside of the 100s. - Right.

- Like, if the who knows what would happen in the Olivera fight, it was a proper fight, a five-rounder, you know. - He's staying busy though, it's not like he's on the count. - He's staying real smart, I mean. - He's doing those things.

- He's got it with things. - Yeah, right. - He put Mok, I have to sleep a couple weeks ago, yeah. I said, well, that was a little too much. - That was a lot.

- Yeah. - Mok, that was on a 25er. - Yeah, I know. - But like, he kept it, whenever they keep it on, when the guys are already sleeping for too long,

it's like, yeah, what's going on here, you know? You gotta know he's out, the fuck's happening. - Maybe some unkind words were extreme. - That's just kind of a mothful process. - That doesn't matter if you guys are sure that happened.

- Mok, I have a hot head, right? - Yeah, he's been known to say something. - He can kick out of the UFC for what happened with him. - I heard he was just like mean to peat, like mean to the staff.

“- That's what I heard he was just like mean to the staff.”

- I was talking about when he did it to a streamer. I'm not talking about that fight. - Oh, we're talking about it. - No, no, no. - I'm talking about him doing it to like it,

just putting up some buddy to the sleep, but his friends, the guys with his other, - I don't think he saw that. - He was like, "Well, him on a couch, "and he put the guy to sleep, this is a regular joke.

- Arm in to this?" - Yeah, man. - Jamie? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - You're not putting it on Jamie, but, y'all, he put him to sleep.

- Any hell that shit on for an extra, how too many seconds. Look at this, watch this, no, don't tell on you. Do you tell me if you think it's too long? - That guy's neck makes me sad. - But that look, to tell, he's gonna do that to him.

- Now what, I'm gonna have to see this. - Now, ready? - Let's see, nice out, right? - He lasted a long time. - No, that's really crazy. - Yeah, that's so unnecessary.

- That's what I'm saying. - What the fuck? - Yeah, that's a lot worse than I thought it was gonna be. - Sorry, guys, he's bringing the room down, but I mean, that's, the crazy thing is Arm and Nosey was out right away. - That's what I'm talking about.

- Also, that guy's neck looks like it's never been choked.

(laughing) - I felt sad for him to be in a dude with when I saw a snake. His neck is making me feel sad 'cause I know that's gonna hurt. - That fucking gorilla, that dude's got a clamp on him, man. - Little fuck is having soup for a week of the day.

- Yeah, right? - It's a problem, Arm and his fucking grip is so incredible, man. I'm just very impressed with him, man. - Very impressed with his grappling. I just wish he'd keep it together.

- Yeah. - I mean, his strike is not bad, neither. - Like he's okay. - His first fight with Islam was very close. - Yeah.

- Very close. - First fight in the UFC. - I don't even think you got a full camp. - Probably not. - I think it was short notice, right?

- And he fought very well, you know? - He's at that, it's just like crazy that fuck ups have kept him from being at the time. The missing the title fight was the big one. - Yeah.

- That was the craziest one. Like his back hurt the day before. - He like, come on. - It's crazy. - Yeah.

- And you make him not so much kind of go out there and not having prepared for him, right? - He's good. - What kind of look could he get? - He's dunking money.

- Yeah, I know what he looks like. - Yeah, I know what he looks like. - I like what he looks like. - I like what he looks like. - Yeah.

- He's like, he gets a light mic too, he's not talking. - Yeah, he's awesome. - He's just like what he started talking

shouldn't even earlier, like I always liked the guy,

but he's fucking hilarious. - He might be the best in the business right now. - He's funny, man. - He's just not getting enough mic time. - He's not getting enough mic time.

- When he gets in the mic time. - Money fucking boy car. (laughing) - It's that right. - They're podcasts, he's good on there with him

- That was the thing, he's doing some streams on it.

He's doing him in English and in Portuguese, but the Portuguese is doing better for him. - Okay. - And he's like, I make a money off YouTube now. - Like, so I don't care anymore.

- Yeah, I have my money. Like I have a big stream of revenue coming in from YouTube. - Subscribe to my channel. - Subscribe to my channel. - It may be motherfucker, it may be motherfucker.

- He's a character.

“- You need some personalities and that's what.”

- That's fucking. - He's good too, remember? Like it is fight with Ben Los Angeles. - Oh yeah, right. - Right.

- Marked him. - Right. - And Marked him.

- San Diego is always way too, but they sure.

- Yeah, sure. - He'll win real good. - Real good, real good. - You can't charge him on that short. - I know. - I know.

- What do you guys think of hockets? - He's so fun. - Who's he's so fun? - I think it's fun. - I think it's fun.

- I don't get it, man. - I don't get it. - I don't get it. - I don't get it. - Look at my short talk and shit, man.

- It's not witty. - It's not witty.

- Like it ain't funny, it ain't witty.

It looks like he's trying too hard. - Exactly, I love it. - No, I don't get it. It's like a pro wrestler. - It's like pro wrestler smart dude. - It's like smart dude.

- Bro, you talk that guy he's a smart dude. He knows what he's doing. He's being a goof.

“And, well, here's the thing about people”

that act really goofy and stupid. You kind of, you know, fooling out of the game, shit. Like, they can trick you, they can trick you. - You think he's going to beat Curtis? - I don't know, man.

Curtis is a lot. - Yeah. - You know, it's a big story in his career. Curtis says a lot of power. He's a big fucking be a letter wrestler, probably.

- He's got a lot of MMA experience. - But hockets a hard dude to solve. And he's fucking hyper aggressive and he's got a lot of him. - He's got a lot of him. - He's got a lot of him.

- He's not fully, he's fast. - He's athletic. - He's one of the guys that I have my eye on. - You think he can make this? - He's five or you think he should, I mean,

well, heavy weights, lights, so perhaps maybe stay there. - But really, we're just waiting for cable. - Yeah, yeah, right. - We're ready. - We're ready.

- He's getting Roman all I think is Russell and him. - Yeah, I won't let him do that. I'm gonna be like, what if you blow your ace out? - Yeah. - What are you crazy?

Why are you doing this? - He's a heavyweight champion of the UFC. - They've gotta be paying him. - And Roman of the big dude, man. - Yeah. - I mean, look, I think give me, I think he'll be fine.

But when you think of guys that are like a Mike Tyson and MMA, like when Mike Tyson was coming up,

“that's what I, when I think of when I see him.”

- Yeah. - I'm like, how do you deal with that? How the fuck do you deal with that? He moves like a cat. He's 240 pounds, Olympic gold medalist.

And he can KO. - Smartest guy in his corner. - He's got John Jones as a mentor. - Yeah. - Are you fucking crazy?

I cue John's, you know, he's one of smart guys. Yeah, you got that guy in your corner and everybody's saying, I mean, he's on the only guy that isn't even in the UFC yet that I had him on my podcast. I was like, I got it. I made he's accomplished the thing. It's a funny way, Charlie, a fucking Olympic gold medalist since he's a champion. It's got to be mid 20s. Oh, he's young and he they're doing it smart. You know, they gave him one of those, what do they call dirty boxing, dirty boxing, all the way jump to dude. Did you see Trump though?

I was pretty sick. He's such an asshole. Just stood there, leapt over the ropes after he won. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like he can do like round off and like the shit like literally boom, boom, boom, boom, like a gymnast. It's fucking crazy. I guarantee that a tribute that's we can trip to the speed that he has and covering distance. He's dangerous man. Watch this. Watch when he goes over this rubber. This is crazy. Damn B. J. Penn jumping out of the pool. Yeah, that is crazy. But he just stalks the landing. You're talking effortlessly. He's a monster dude. Real hard problem for people.

So it wrestled name Gable. You better fucking be good. Yeah, and named after Dan gave after Dan gave him. So he's been wrestling since he's a toddler. And he's just such a fucking athlete and so smart. Just dedicated. Did they're doing it smart, too? They're not just jumping him into the UFC right away. He's getting famous outside the UFC. That's the way you can. You can't do it. You sure. That was sure. You try to bring him alone as much as you can. Yeah, fuck your 10 and 10. Come on, son. Well, when they say they got to get there going to get more than that.

But the thing is you don't get some people who are up there painting that you don't want to give a young fighter too much money early because it'll ruin their motivation. So I mean, there's truth in that. But I mean, it's not who's that for you to say. You don't say like, I want my money exact. Yeah, you don't get to determine that. I want my money. Guess what? I think the cream will still rise to the top. I think the guys that are dedicated that have a lot like fully me whether when he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars would still never drink and run home from the club.

So people driving his roles were so crazy running behind it. Yeah, I mean, look, look at an arm in man. That guy's got money. Yeah, give a shit. It's got a private chat. Yeah, he's just arm. It's got a private jet. At least he's always on a private jet. Seems like he's got some cash. His family has tons of money. Yeah, but he still does the desire to be the best. Yeah, I mean, see the in you or it's not with that.

Yeah, I mean, who's disciplining him. You know what I mean, he runs his town. I'm sure. What do you guys think about harm's out in Strickland? I, well, let me tell you, this comes down to Strickland's motivation. Well, I mean, he got to be fucking motivated. He's got to be shot or fucking again. Yeah, but I mean, he's worked with him before. I mean, I know they say that comes out some editing, but if you hear a Strickland talk about it, they would do.

“Yeah, bashing around. When you're a starter on his back, I mean, come on. But I think when they move the round, I think he feels pretty confident with it. He's a hard guy to keep down, Sean.”

Yeah. And, uh, Cardio is going to be a boy who made comes out look human, Gilbert Burns, Kumar, Usman. I mean, they made him look human. You know, and Drake is again, not, you don't want to see that rematch, but take the fifth round. He did get into some decent positions. He just got reversed right away. I mean, Sean, if there's any bit of blood in the water, he's fucking a finisher. He's, you know, let me know, stay on him or if he's hurt at all. He's durable. I mean, and everybody's saying how underrated he's grappling is the guys that are working with him.

So I mean, it's, it's all over to and he's so hard to hit man. He's got a weird style. It's very weird. He fucks you up, and he's really good at moving back away from Sean on the hands or in your face. Yeah, it's weird. He also throws like looping shots on purpose. Sometimes, like you would think it's bad technique, but he's like finding a way around your guard. Yeah, he's catching you with weird stuff. And his fucking jab is on point.

You could hear it, and you don't always hear that. You could hear the foot in his jab when fluffy was blocking him.

It was hard. He was making his kicks in there. Well, he's got to watch that. He wasn't getting hit, man. The thing about him, if you, if you watch him when he's on point, he's so fucking hard to hit. He just fucked up with Alex. He just can't make any mistakes. It seems like everybody fucked up with Alex. He's a freak. He doesn't negotiate with you.

He's like, "You fuck up this over. Do you think that translates to heavyweight with gone?" I don't think so. I think gone is a little bit too scary. It's like a chance of fucking dancing and jabbing his weight in his belly. I think Alex could put him out. Here's one thing. Gone has been a hundred and eighty-five pounds since he was twelve.

That's a big, heavyweight, athletic moves like a cat, and he's got world-class striking skills, man.

That time, that first round opened up a lot of eyes. He looked fucking good.

It opened eyes alright. He did it for a time, man. He took about a guy that got the shit into the state. I was not going deep in his fucking eyes. Two surgeries. Everybody's like, "Yeah, I won't get off."

We're in really good. I just think that was handled poorly right after the fact.

“I think you have to address right after the fact that you have to probably tell people,”

like what kind of injuries can be sustained from this, they're permanent. Look at Michael Bisming, still can't see it, it was right eye. You can't just have a guy go back into a fight when he can't see. It's crazy. It's crazy to ask. The guy's been injured. If he gets hit again, it could rupture who knows who knows what kind of damage he had back there.

So, what do you think was the air response of a psychological? Yeah, I mean, but in terms of handling the situation afterwards, you think it was Tom's fault or do you have to see for not being like getting his back on it? I was doing a press conference afterwards.

What I would emphasize first and foremost is how dangerous eye-pokes are.

Yeah. But I think we've neglected some simple solutions. You know, and I think there's got to be a solution that we use to stop these fucking fingers from going into people's eyes. Point deduction right away. Point deduction is the easiest. Yeah.

One, you touch someone's eyeball with your fingers. Well, unless it's a complete scramble doing this, his head happens to be there. Yeah. But if you're doing this when the guy's coming in and your fingers going as eyes, one point. Every fucking time. Every fucking time.

For sure. No judges discretion. Yeah. No referees discretion. Poken the eye out.

One point. Did you ever sustain about the pride gloves? What happened to them? I did.

“You know, I don't remember the tech, right?”

That's good. And the best stuff is Trevor Whitman. Right? Just a little bit. That's what I'm doing. I was trying to broke or something, and I might still be able to do that to try to figure out a way to just like those gloves are perfect.

The knuckles curve over your hands or in this position. Yeah. It does not impede your grappling. It's easy to do that if you want to, but the natural position is like this.

It's not like the gloves are forcing your hand open.

“Like a lot of people complain about now.”

They can just hold it. Here's the man's eye. Cover the tips of the fingers. You don't use them anyway. True.

Nobody does this, right?

So if you're always grappling like this, right?

Yeah. So cover it with like a mitten. Yeah. A little mitten. Like a leather.

With a leather top. A little mitten. So it's your thumbs or free. So you still have some potential eye poke from thumbs. Mm-hmm.

But that mitigates a lot of it. It mitigates a lot of it. And you completely stop all this stuff. Because now you have a solid thing. Right?

Yeah. It's not going to go knuckle deep in. One finger goes in. One finger's on your eyebrows. And it's just fucking digging in.

That's crazy. That would all stop if you had a mitten. Well, I mean, there's not a lot of eye poke in bare knuckle. Right? Right?

That is interesting. And it's because they're always like this. Yeah. Because they're noticing true. And one of these guys they get in there and they're just like.

Yeah. So the way to stop it, really. I mean, it's take a way point.

And guys will be like this more.

Yeah.

“Well, I wonder if there would be less eye pokes in just if you just think about MMA with gloves on.”

It was it was just boxing and no kicking and takedowns. Maybe it's like all the different possibilities of things. That's what it is. It's like they're trying to like avoid to take down and everything. Like kicks.

Yeah. Everything. So that's why you're doing this. Because like boy tie guys do this all the time. Boxing guys very rarely do that.

No. Very rarely. They're about to hit you with a big ride. Bang. Like Dante Wilder.

Right. Yeah. He'll be. Yeah. Old Scrape.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Thought I heard something about that. That's tough fight.

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He said, "It's nice because this is a thing where if a fighter is in contract negotiations,

they have their last fight on the contract and they decide not to fight or not to sign until after the fight.

“They do make that decision, which legally they can do, right?”

And also, no. It's just gone. Yeah, there's it. Yeah. Especially when big.

Yeah, when big. It's totally knockout. For sure. And then, you come over to Netflix and make what? Yeah, a fight?

That's nuts.

That's what business is supposed to do. That's how it's supposed to operate. That's what good for the fighters.

That's the most important thing.

And that's good, right?

“But that's just, like, ass why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing can be sustainable.”

I hope so too. Yeah, because they can fix it. They just do it one-off. Or it's like, "I'm a terrible businessman. I'm terrible at it."

They're the ones who fight. Right. Without that, you've got nothing. Right. Everybody's making plenty of money.

Yeah. Come on. It's going to be big, though, for sure, this thing. Everybody's going to watch it. A hundred percent.

It'll be huge, because it's. Everybody has Netflix. They're going to watch it. It's going to be crazy. Veronica can become a superstar again.

Well, she's already a superstar. But I mean, if she wins again, then people start talking about, like, maybe Ron is going to come back to the UFC. And then maybe Ron is, like, a WWE moment. Ron den Dana shake hands on a stage with, like,

Erica Kirk fireworks going off behind them. [ Laughter ] And Bruce Keaton. Yeah. Ron did Kayla Harris in White House Law Number 2.

Next summer. Oh. [ Laughter ]

I don't think she would do what I mean UFC, but this is great for her.

She's done with the WWE and all that stuff. Yeah. I pray that it's probably hard for, I mean, it's probably enjoyed the job. It was a great job.

Made her a lot of money.

“But it's probably hard for an elite competitor”

to do these stage things. And she's an elite competitor. Because I instinctively she just wants to do compete. 100%. Yeah.

She doesn't want to fake compete. Yeah. I mean, some guys did it right. Kurt Angle turned out to be a real good pro wrestler, you know. I don't listen.

It's a great gig. Don't get me wrong. But I'm saying for someone who's still good fight. Uh, yeah. Yeah.

Angle was done at that point when he went to pro wrestler. I went to the Olympics with a broken neck. She's savage. I just went to the head court. Isn't Connecticut.

It's pretty well. Nice. Yeah. I read. I saw him in that podcast.

She's very nice. Definitely, man. Nice.

And I see that whole fucking place.

If you're into WWE, it's like a fucking nerd gas. Right? I'm not really into it. But Tony was good for cream. Oh my god.

He's already been there. I'm sure. Oh, yeah. He's working with them now. Is he?

Yeah. Yeah. He's doing stuff with the WWE. Is he right in former? He's going to be in some shows.

He's going to be a bad guy doing some things. Oh my god. He's going to be like a manager. I'm happy. That's great.

I don't know how much I could talk about this. I have to be quiet. I don't know how much this is public. But they're doing it. They're very, very announcing they're doing some stuff with Kill Tony.

And he's going to roast like WWE people. They're doing a lot of collaborations together. It's perfect. That guy's a giant wrestling fan. He loves it.

Yeah. The guys that love it loves it. He's talking fucking. And he's the best roaster, too, man. With us.

When I'd be sitting at the fights, I don't say shit. Oh my god. I don't want him coming at me. He had Danish. That's my boy.

Yeah. He had Danish back for the fucking Tom. We had to do that thing at the last factor. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Danish again. We're going to do this thing. And nobody's coming in prepared. Maybe I had Tony Hincliffe. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the hilarious. Yeah. Tony's the best at that shit. These are the best cracker people.

Cracking our people. Yeah. But the people that love that that soap opera like. Yeah. WWE.

I don't hate on it. I don't know where they're much they love it. You keep you entertained. They like it. You know what I mean?

They're really smart. It makes things up and bringing in new characters. Yeah. And if you're a nerd like Tony, like. Yeah.

I think they go nuts. But it's like you're like the same. Oh, shit. It's like a band. It's a male soap opera.

Yeah. But it's like the same kind of scape that you get. If you're watching Game of Thrones. It's just an escape. It's silly.

This is crazy. Oh, my God. He's back from that dad. See. But that's like drawing line.

I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. And I can't do that. And I can't.

I'm going to be. I'm going to problem with it. I just can't do that. Yeah. It's not my thing.

I don't watch it. But I respect it. I respect how hard it is to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It's fucking difficult to do. Remember, remember, remember, remember. We've wrestled data in Memphis. Yeah. We did a little thing in the street.

We have a, but we were just winging it. Yeah. I was hoping you just let me get a submission. Yeah. You fight me off.

Come on, man. I mean, it's strong. I hurt my knee. It was tough. Man, I ain't what I was.

And it's harder than I thought. Oh, no, guys. Take a beating. Sure. Yeah.

I've met Hulk Hogan twice. Well, I've met him before when he did a promo with me with the UFC.

“It was when we were on, I think we're on spike back then.”

Yeah. But I met him a long time ago. And he was like, he was six foot five. He says giant fucking dude. I was like, holy shit.

It's Hulk Hogan. And then I saw him the last time he did my podcast. And he's like four inches shorter. And it's all from getting it all was spine feost.

You're the same. Yeah.

He was like a big guy still, but he was he used to be a giant.

Yeah. He was like this is. He was like a big guy still. But it was he used to be a giant. Yeah.

He was like this is. Now we're in fucking crazy guy bald. He was underlapsed. He was so fun. I do was so fun.

“But that's how many back surgery she had.”

And he said it was all from that move that he had. We dropped down. I don't know. So the big seat drop. Exactly.

So the seat drop. Every time he does that, he's compressed his discs. Three hundred plus. Yeah. Every night and just blowing his back out.

His back was just destroyed. Wow. Destroyed. Every every vertebrae destroyed. Every disc blown apart.

Harniates, jins all throughout. Barely good walk. I was watching the princess probably the other day. What fucking odd. Yeah.

What a great guy. What do you want to pee? Yeah. He's fucking great. My name is Diego Montoya.

Love that. You killed my father. Yeah. It was such a great. Such a great movie.

Great movie. Yeah. Put that on for the family. Kids watch it. It's classic.

Yeah. That's one. That's last ages. It goes through generations. Look at that fucking.

Yeah. It holds up. Fuck it. You know. They don't make them like that anymore.

I just saw that project Hail Mary. That's a nice one for the family. What is that?

“It's what Ryan Goslin goes to space and fucking.”

That's the save the world type of thing. You know, it's more than that. But that's pretty much the premise. Where are these Artemis people at now? Are they passing the moon yet?

They're already dead. They passed it. What happened? So when did they land yet? Are they back yet?

Where are they? It should be probably back the next day or two. Who's going away? They went around the moon. They went all the way around the moon.

They went around the moon. They went around the moon. No. They just went around. They just went around and saw the dark side.

Yeah. They took photos of the dark side. Oh, really? Yeah. But it's on Friday splash.

Splash on Friday. I was getting ready to say what? They crashed. So they land tomorrow. Wow.

So the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not. It's not dark. Like the sun still hits it the same amount. The sun hits the light side of the moon. Is that just?

Yeah, it's the way though. I used to think, I remember retard.

“I used to think that the reason why we only see one side of the moon is because”

the moon doesn't spin. That's what I thought. No, no. The moon not only spins around us, but it rotates. But when we see it, the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever it is,

is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us.

Right. So when it goes the other way. Gotcha. There's a different side that's facing us, but we don't ever get to see it because it's dark. Right.

That's what it is. So they took pictures of the other side. Exactly. Yeah. And the aliens everywhere.

Yeah. That's what it is. What's going on? What's going on? And that movie he finds an alien by the way.

That's not really a spoiler. It's an alien. I had that guy. Bob Luzar on again, recently. Who's that?

You want to see a great documentary? It's fun. The first, I would say, Jeremy Corbyl's documentary, which is an area 51. Bob Luzar on flying saucers. That was his called.

Bob Luzar, area 51 on flying saucers. So this guy was a back-end, he was an engineer and he was hired to work on these spacecrafts that he didn't know what the fuck they were. And they told them, like, try to figure out this propulsion system. They brought him into this hangar and this is like 1988.

And it's a flying saucer. It looks exactly like that thing on the desk. And it has an American flag sticker on it. And so he's like, oh, must be ours. And then he gets in it.

He's like, what the fuck is this? It's made for people that are three feet tall. There's no controls, no buttons. Why are you looking at me, motherfucker? Why?

You're the only guy that can fly? Why? You're the only guy that can fly. You're the only guy that can fly. You're the only guy that can fly.

You're the only guy that can fly. But he's got to knew what that fuck has for. I recommend it to anybody. It's a, they did like CGI and they de-aged it on that fly saucer. You don't tell the Amazon.

Amazon. Some other places. What's the call again? S4. S4.

I just saw, I was just watching a series with you on it. Ancient apocalypse. Was I on that? Yeah, he was in that. With all with Graham Cranker.

Yeah, he's right. That's right. Yeah. Grammar one man. Do you know how to re-go Gracie?

Yeah. Good buddy of mine. My old roommate. Hmm. He's a fucking wacky guy.

He's fucking funny. Funny shit. So, you know, we were just out to eat less night with Dan and her. We were talking about, I love that guy. And he's like, oh, he's great.

And he's like, oh, I'm glad that how to re-go. I was talking about how to re-he's doing good. He was visiting me through my podcast and he did a seminar at my place. So he, you know, I was catching up with him. So he told me he was visiting an area 51 with his wife.

And he goes, so yeah, you know, I always wanted to go there.

So me and Fernando, we drove down there.

So then I'm driving back.

“You got to drive back hours through like the dark desert.”

Right. So he's driving back. And he goes, Fernando fell asleep. So I had my laser pointer. So I'm just pointing at a sign pointing at this.

He goes mad. And then I saw blue lights in the distance. He goes, oh, I could, I'm going to be contacted. He goes, what? He goes, she was sleeping.

So I started taking my laser pin and pointing. He goes, and I didn't think nothing of it. And then all of a sudden I'm driving. And I hear. And a yellow circle around my car.

And I wake up for now. And she's like, what did you do? And he's like, I just took my laser pin. It was a helicopter. Fucking foul on him.

Like, just, and he goes, he goes, he was getting down to like almost my roof. I didn't know what to do. They had all yellow spot around my, I get caught. So she told me, I, we called the police. So they, you know, they go, look, there's a helicopter foul on us.

And they go, are you in a, they said the car, the, everything, they go, the authorities are waiting for you at the rest stop. Up, whatever. So he goes to the rest stop. It takes his laser point. He gets they throws it in the garbage.

I don't know why. And then he comes out. They, they're like, look, they, they put him in cops. And he goes to his wife. He goes, go in and get the laser pin.

It's in the bathroom.

“He goes in the men's room through the garbage.”

Finds it. So they're saying, all right, you would, you were shooting, interfering with a military helicopter or whatever it is. Like, in other words, it's a major crime here that he could be facing. He goes mad. He goes, oh, shitting myself.

The two pilots come over. One of them takes off the helmet. Califlaw is, he goes, fuck and thank you. He trained under my cousin. He goes, you guys found me.

He goes, my wife's yelling at me. So he got out of it. The guy trained under, he's a brown belt. Oh, my God. How lucky.

That's so lucky. I don't know. And I regal man, only you bro. That's so lucky. Yeah, they probably thought they were trying to, like, fuck with planes.

Because kids do that. They, they shine laser beams of planes. It's like a real problem. Yeah. They'll get in their eyes when they're fucking flying.

Oh, yeah. The lasers go all the way up to a plane. I used to be with a video on on 27 street. He's like, bad watch this. We'd be at the window.

He's walking down the street. Fucking. He's like, ah, look at him. Jump on the cover. I look at this as well.

I'm going to hell. I'm going to hell. I'm going to hell. That's over ridiculous. Yeah.

I think it's a laser sight on a rifle. Exactly. That's what my gun is doing. Take that down. Don't do that.

Don't do that around here. But he thought he was making contact. He's making contact. He's got a chopper. Yeah.

They keep talking about making contact. I'm tired of hearing about it. Let's do it already. Got them. Yeah.

I want to see it. They're just dick teasing us. Yeah, shit. I don't think... But you're a sci-fi guy.

Oh, man. Do you watch the dude movies now? No. I know. I just want to give it a shot.

I do. I don't have any time. They look good. But I get home too. Like if it's like late at night when I'm home.

And I'm by myself watching shit. I don't want to watch anything like that. I don't want to watch documentaries. I was about to say, man. Take a week off of a documentary on fighting.

No. You're like... Dude, what I'm going to find out would have with a few of my hours. Like, like, a week. The watch is good.

I get a close man. The dude movies are so fucking good. I heard they're amazing. Josh Browin is great. And now they got the dude Messiah.

I don't know. I was in it.

Two third one coming out.

Yep. Third one coming out. And this guy can't miss this guy. Everybody keeps telling me how awesome they are. They are good.

They're good. They're very good. I tried to watch. - Yeah, you don't want to, you get that. - Just don't get that.

- Just don't get that. - Just don't get that. - Just don't get that. - Just don't get that. - Just don't get that.

- Hey, you don't want to. Oh, who else is coming out with a movie? - Who? (crowd cheering) - You're mine.

- Just like we planned, you told me that, "Hey, that's pretty shit up." (laughing)

“- He came out with a, "Hey, that's what I was."”

- Yeah, I did a shit. - Hey, wait, wait. That's why Dean picked up dinner last night. I said, "No, I did that because of my new job." (laughing)

- Okay, you know, he was giving me a heart attack and you reached for that fucking bill on the air. - Is this the movie that you put together? - Yeah, yeah. - But it's a, it's a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's about a female in an abusive relationship. - Wow. - Wow. - Look at you, Mr. Sunson. - There it is.

- There it is. - It's a loud one. - It's a boy. - No shit. - The multi-talented.

- Yeah. - You know, nothing to do with cage fighting. - Look at that. - Nothing?

- That's incredible, dude.

- Yeah, congratulations. - That's awesome. - Mr. Sunson, it's a film festival. - Yeah, next week. - That's awesome.

- Yeah, that's awesome. - Yeah. - I like when people spread their wings. - You got to, you're like, you know, in life is short, and you don't want to be in a box,

- And you can do whatever the fuck you want.

- You can do whatever the fuck you want, yeah. - Yeah. - So I try to do whatever the fuck I want. - I'm telling you, that's how to live. - Yeah.

- That's how to live. There's too many people out there not doing what they want to do. (sighs) - It makes me sad, actually. It's a sad existence, you know, and a lot of people are doing it,

'cause you got to take care of your family, and I get it, and I respect it. Maybe you have a good time at work. That's great. - But if there's a thing you want to do while you're still breathe.

- I know, do it. - Do it. - You should try. - You least try it, get it out of your hands. - I feel so fortunate when I fucking have my day today.

- You don't even need to. - 'Cause I don't want to take you to the end of the promise. I don't want to do shit. (laughing) He's got another job in the real world, he does.

(laughing) - He's asking how I'm doing, am I doing? - My school? Tallyos, pizza area? No bromine, no bleach.

(laughing) And my pod, my podcast, I'm having fun with it,

“and you have to see unfilled to do this.”

It's just such a perfect little thing for me. I don't want to do anything else. - Beautiful. - It's so much fun. - That's the, there's a lot of power in saying no.

- Oh, you know, saying no things. I don't want to do anything more. Like, just enjoy what you're doing. - Yeah, you don't have to keep piling on. But the thing is, once things start going good,

you start saying, "Oh, I better not say no to it." Or nothing. - No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, no, no, no. - I don't have to do that.

- Yeah, I'll find the time, but once you get to the point where you can say, "No, that's a great place to be." - Oh, that's the best place. - Is your heart in it or not, do you want to do that? - Exactly.

- Exactly. - Shoot, man. The day-to-day, your day-to-day life, that's what I love about Longa, Longa. You know what's funny?

He's holding for my daughter now, which is so great. - She had a first kickboxing, imagine one, I thought. - But like, he sent us the pictures in the group chat. - Yeah, it's amazing, right? But it's a proud moment. - Oh, it's so proud, and it's so cool, man,

when I see him holding for, I like-- - He doesn't have, like, you know, he just-- - That guy just says the best. - He's doing the same thing. - He's doing the same thing.

- He's doing the same thing. - Yeah, he's doing the same thing. - So much, Paramount was smart. They would do a fucking, a whole series of you and him would travel into fights, working with people,

hanging out and cornering each other. - You guys in the corner are some, it's fucking, I'm like, keep the camera outside. - And then you got the truth. - It's the truth.

We always talk about it in the commentary.

Like, it's fucking awesome watching you guys in a corner. - Good technically advice, but it's just fun. You guys are fun together. - Just on an amateur card, we just got brought back together. For one of my fight is Adrian's young Filipino guys.

Good kid, nerds and nerds, always smiling. - They're all nerds. - He went, he went, and he went, and he was my wife, and they were so weird, but he went in there, and he's just like, I just have just my one wishes

to have you and Ray and my 20s, it's a nice kid. - So we went in there, we cornered him, we didn't have to work the corner, though, the first round. - What line is guy? - Nice.

- Oh man. - So yeah, man, you guys are great on your podcast together too. - Yeah, that's a good chemistry. - You got a crazy friendship, it's perfect. It's like the banter's hilarious,

the two of you guys, you compliment each other perfectly. It would be a great show. - I tell you, I'm going to do something soon before the first episode is me and the guys taking Longo to a home, he's not getting any of it.

(laughing) - Y'all treat Longo, don't let him talk to you like that right. (laughing) - I mean, you cornered Ray and the good fucking road trip to the fucking home, Longo, don't let him.

(laughing) Longo's got a lot of life, he's my dad. - Oh my God, great.

“- What do you think of Gilbert Burns versus Mike Malak?”

Is Gilbert's was foreign to Robby, did it to all killers? - Yeah, you know what I mean? - Lots of stuff guy. - Malak? - He's getting better. - Only lost ones to Neil Magne and a fight

that he was doing great and then he got Neil Magne

because that guy's fucking never gets tired.

- Never gets tired. - Never came into discipline, always in shape. - He rided the ship since then and that kid's like the next Captain Canada, he's doing people. They'd make an unfair comparison like,

"Oh, you're the next George that type of thing." But he's his own fighter, he's got a great skill set, good head on his shoulders. Family of studs, he's brought this like an ice hockey. - It's a good test from Gilbert at this stage of his career.

- Yeah, see if he still got it. - Yeah, you know. He's the first guy to make comes out look human. - But when Morales did that to Gilbert, I was like, Jesus Christ of Morales, it's terrifying.

- He looks so big. - I know, he doesn't make any sense. - So when I was a Brady, when Brady got beat by him, and at the way he looked okay, right? He's 170 pounds in the next day,

he steps into the cage and I'm just looking at, "Oh my God, he got a massive, massive." And when you're that much taller that the in your you're the better striker. Yeah, it's a huge advantage Like he just because you can stand six feet away from a guy. I just been like Garry last week. Oh my god. Oh, I got no man so we're what he trained it with great us a crown controls a kid and

“Before he went off the college and all and I mean, the only thing I can say first off obviously he wasn't ready for him yet”

But uh he definitely showed a lot of heart because he fucking played in there and took a too much man

I felt horrible watching that. I was like he wasn't ready for that yet. Yeah, yeah, there's When you get in a lead striker, you got to realize that kind of beat Parara and glory

“Parara knocked him out twice after that, but in the first fight beat Parara. I think just a decision”

Like ordinary in his first couple of like he came out with a new version and It was fucking impressive. He's fucking good, and he's training with Parara. And he's a club receiver Yeah, you know, that was a great fucking camp and Glover has so much knowledge. Yeah, he's That guy was in the dark for six years where he couldn't get into America and during those six years He was the boogie man. Everybody talked about Glover. They're like there's a guy that's in Brazil

He can't get to America, but if that guy gets here. He's fucking everybody and that was Glover Glover was a he was always training with truck

truck and um and yeah, yeah, and they're in Danbury, connect. So that's it. And that's it Wow, they should do out there. Yeah, all they don't is training. Yeah, dude. Just nothing but lime disease in the woods Right, yeah, and federal prison in Danbury. Yeah, yeah, Connecticut is it's a good place to just not get distracted Just get to work. Danbury is where a hot reggo greasy broke my elbow. I was there. Yeah, you was there Wasn't I didn't know you was that I go. You know, yeah

Jeff get pins in it. No, the day. I mean he said reset it cast it meat no pins. He told that story at the seminar. Oh, he did Because we weren't close at the time. Oh, and I was yelling shit, but I regret that too What did you y'all Let it go he let it go You didn't tap. Well, yeah, and right which which was great and then I was y'all on Adam from letting it go

Which I got it because you're my friend now. Yeah, at the time. It was just what to be fair Like if I knew it was going to break I would have tapped. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know it was going to break

“Yeah, that's what the story told then he said that handle y'all that. I'm two after that. For letting it go. Why do you where you getting soft”

Yeah, I gotta get hands-on here. Oh, he's he's that way. He was only an officer for short amount of time And I didn't have anything open. I couldn't get him in I'd love to sit down with that guy. I want a legend Yeah, stories for days and he's one of those guys like you hear about a guy getting the black belt You like okay, and you go they got a black belt from Hanzo. You're like oh Okay, definitely okay. It's like hands-o-hix and Sean jock my child

There's a few of those guys. They're like okay. That's some real black belt like I mean hands-os knee-art place. It's like one of the most legendary places in the history of jujitsu If you had a right a history of jujitsu the Hanzo Academy in New York City Holy shit 100% when he came over shit came over in 96 Yeah, I can in school tournament. Yeah, I know it was great because a crack who cook already had two schools for him

He had a jersey school and that guy No, no, no, he was like that was my first in this appeared my first instructor

But he was not an easy guy to he'd never let you get too close. I bought all the tapes

I learned a Montesquay for those days Oh, shit. He was a very good a teacher. I know I was what he used to He was early Brazilian jujitsu black belt. Yeah, he's a black belt like early 90s, right like the Steve Maxwell He was one of the earliest ones. I found out about him through the crazy news letter that I was Applied to like 17 I used to get that the great cuz I would buy the tape she got a newsletter and one news letter

It was like every few months. It was announcing the first American black belt and then like two news latest later They disowned them They had a business Then I found out through black belt magazine that he was teaching in the village one day a week in the city I go all right

They might have disowned them, but they couldn't take away his skill set There was no place to learn on the East Coast except for Maxwell and Philly

“Yep, so that's how I found Cooke cook and then he peep partnered up with Hanzo and then I went with Hanzo when they broke up”

Obviously, why did they break up?

I remember Hanzo took me out to eat one time and he's like look and I always got it

I got along with Hanzo so much better He right off the bat like Hanzo was just so warm and great and I invite me over his house and he was just such a and Craig was it was always kind of a wall He was a big German guy just hmm, but I remember one time he told me like look something with the business where he wasn't Feel like he was being treated failure. You know, just leave it like that and then uh he was look he goes if he no one likes Craig He goes if you go with him and and and me

He goes people will go with him because of you because they like you and you but I want you to come with me I go look I go hands and at first I'm like is anything I was young kid I didn't know I go was anywhere you guys could make up he goes man if it was Brazil he'd be already dead

I went with Hanzo and Craig kind of loved him so Matt, where are you in the pecking order in terms of American black belts from Hanzo

“I'm from the first American of the Hanzo. Okay, that's amazing”

That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's something that could that's my biggest achievement right there

You know you took me on the wrist wing Hanzo again. I was a purple ball. He got me out of a security go on booth Taking me to Japan to corner room versus rings because he wanted to hit me to see what it's like backstage Did I was nobody I didn't do anything yet? I'm like oh shit really Japan So he would just leave stuff like that. Yeah, he did he put a lot into me so I can't think I'm an off there That's that fucking camp, but you just think about how many elite black belts Hanzo produced they and then think of the John Donner her branch of it

Generationally like it just it dominates all the generations of Jitsu especially now if you think of what Donner has done Oh, you know, I mean his prize guide Gordon Ryan gracious of all time for sure But I mean even on the other side who they don't get along with so much now like like Nikki Rodden A hundred are still from Donner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and all elite of the elite. Yeah Well, that's crazy lineage. It's a guy that just put a

100% of himself Into it and he's got a genius mind. I remember he didn't even own a television until my buddy Chad LeBron who was moving back to Virginia

“Even something he gave him one so he could watch it had I think of VHS and a DVD thing where he wanted to just study”

Wrestling tapes and Japanese tapes and he just Is it just the study I have a question for you. What ever happened to Eddie Wolverine? Yeah, so I asked him what about that last night's last time again. Come on. Come on. What did he say? He got into some kind of business now. He's not really training as much. Yeah, he was good. Yeah, he was good It was like really early in the day like as the leg lock revolution was unfolding that John's first

You know savage you put out. I remember and you know just super super technical You know, they trained a lot of those guys in leg lock technique, too. You know, they all shared techniques Oh yeah, I

I think it's just amazing that John drives. He never drove in the old guy's like oh, I don't get it. He goes. Oh, I drove like you're fucking with a rash card

Audit Fanny man the de-to-swet pins dressed up last night. He had a all-black polo shirt I go from New Zealand. Yeah

“New Zealand oh I got dressed up for you. Yeah, well, you probably went back home to his family and his mother was like”

Stop wearing the red carpet's underwear Crazy, he's teaching at Kingsway now go to school now that Gordon's done competing. He's got that school going on He's like a character in a movie like he's not supposed to exist that are yes a philosophy major in Columbia Who falls in love with Jiu-Jitsu because he's a bouncer he wants to bounce that scores He's just like jacked like power lifter bouncer or rugby. He was like two-twone. He was jacked and so then he learns

Jiu-Jitsu becomes obsessed with Jiu-Jitsu, but his body's all fucked up from rugby. He's got a fucked-up Neane then his hip gets fucked up and so he can't really compete But he is such a Jiu-Jitsu fanatic that he trains the best guys of all time It's kind of nuts. It is nuts. And that's all he cares about Like he doesn't give a shit about anything. He doesn't give a fuck about social media

Look at John

John that's one of my favorite people. Oh my god. I've always had a hair jacked looking ready for a

gay date John that's a All things like that a skirt off. Yeah, it does he was a really John that way would rock ahead gear to when he was a bad mother fucker dude bad mother fucker And a lot of people roll with him that were shocked. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah John would do privates and Russell everybody all day long Yeah, he lived it and I still live's it. That's all he does and it's just so

You know fortunate that you get a guy who's that smart Like in everything like he's really well read history all kinds of dude He looks like he's talking but it becomes obsessed only with Jiu-Jitsu. He didn't have a family Oh, yeah, some wife and kids got to take care of her. I love that joking people when you have us out here It's like a routine now now every time we come out

I get dinner with him. I don't see him to walk in so right. It's great. It's like a little reunion Yeah, each time we come to town. I'd be with him how many days a week We'd just train and go to burrito bill. They were in Puerto Rico during the pandemic and they were having a hard time there And I was like come to Texas, baby Yeah, you're the Pied Piper. They all ended up here. Well, it's a fun place, man

It really is Well, I heard the whole Puerto Rico thing was good for a while to I was talking to Nikki right about that He said it was great. He was like just like being in Puerto Rico with your friends and like a frat house training Jitsu all day

Yeah, and in Puerto Rico you have outside like you could get light into the room so and kills the fucking staff better Yeah, all right. How many guys got staffed from That the basement Jitsu right. There's a lot of smoke that gets on those mats and if you're not careful His belly would all day in the body From style dude my fucking belly Joe on the way here on the way to the JFK

Cuz I always got my issues, but I usually give myself like if I'm going somewhere

I'm gonna car trip or anywhere like I clear out for at least an hour and a half to two hours Like I'll give my I'll my espresso in the morning two Celces and then I just let it go to work and I'm pushing on my belly Because I think it's stuck in there So I thought I gave myself enough time and I was going to JFK from my house 30 minutes. It was not in the morning We ten minutes into that fucking car trip. I'm not fucking making

I go I'm not I go I'm not man. It guy was my driver was such a good guy What a nice guy. I gave him a fifth I gave him a fucking tip good tip So we're driving I go I go lie, let me just keep watching videos on my phone. I'm like let me just try to be like my mind go somewhere

Clot the clock wasn't moving. I look back. I go that's another minute

I go I'm not I just know where I'm making this so I'm on the bell parkway. It's not like you could just pull over So I go you know I go I go buddy. I go I go I go I'm sorry man. I go I'm not I'm not gonna make it I go I go we got a we got a pull over. He goes He goes oh the the but there's no way really to pull over you want me to take your neck. I go go off and eggs

I go you can I yeah I go you can have to do something I go I'm not making it I go can I get you

“I go can you 7 11 go I go he goes all do you have to pee I go I'm gonna shit in your cup”

I'm sorry I go I'm sorry sir. I go but I go I go I go I knew it was it's just it's gonna happen And it's my biggest fucking fear and it's coming to life so he this guy It's okay it's okay. He got over we almost hit a fucking car. I'm on the side There's not even pushes or anything there was some like like some like I could see you everybody saw me you know it's got to be a top of your head I got out

As I'm taking my pants down fucking I'm going thank goodness I made it and Fuck I get back in I go buddy you're shit in the cup not into I've shit. I just piss. Oh, but it's like Well, I mean I felt my my asshole burp bubbles but nothing you know when you feel like you know But it's like that with you would you have to pee too? I sometimes I have to I have to do both like I'm like I have this pee But I know to really get it all out. I have to push it

Hey everybody. How's my ass? So we put with pee though like you can't just hold pee Man I can but not to this not like how you used to be able to not well it's not like It's one of those things where I have to clear out in the morning and I thought I totally cleared out but sometimes I'm like, I'm good I pushed out totally and then it kind of just get something else in the chamber or something. I'm like oh, no

There's still so So we're driving and I'm like when you when I get the feeling it's it's such a horrible feeling Because you're it's not about willpower It's not about thinking to something on my dude. It's gonna fucking happen This is the day that I just piss myself it's gonna but thank dude. I gave a custom tag you the 70

Dollars for the road for the trip. I gave him a 50 dollar tip. I go dude Thank you bro. You're a fucking hero. This guy fucking saved my fucking ass I just someone else so I'm like they'd be like hey dude Fuck off with it. I go or don't do this in my car right dude. I might get happy

“I go give me your coffee like oh, do you have to pee? I go”

Obviously, but I do he made it, but I couldn't do it. I fucking a 30-minute drive there I couldn't fucking make it. That's crazy. It's scary, but as you get older it's hard to hold it, man I think it's my ulcerate of colitis has to do with that But because that sounds crazy the dude. I comes on that query. It's it was I I've had it before but like I don't know if I told I maybe said it the last time here

We were going to win a query amount east with my family And it was one of those things just like this and I get out of the car and then we're looking and we I'm like I can then I see there's like a line up to do I go I'm not making this there's no way I'm making this So I go honey, I she goes okay go go so I fucking there's like a post office with those those

bushes that come straight up like they're all tied together. I fucking smush myself around the second I take my dick out

Fucking bees come around I go dude I'm gonna get stuck because I'm not going out my dick

“And fucking I think it's done, but I definitely had someone in the front of my pants”

What are you gonna do sometimes? I'm a very clean person a break out you're not related to that

But yeah, man

These are the things you got to deal with when you get older a little bit. I am getting my stem cells. That's hopefully

Those are the cause of ulcerative colitis. What do they say causes it? I don't know

“I mean, I think some of it's my history. I know one of my brothers had crones which is even worse”

Yeah, he's gonna level up. Yeah, man like so I know my grandfather when he was getting older though We had some shit have you ever like sword off pasta? Well, just like taking like months off I was I was trying to go carnivore. I did go gluten free for a while You know, but you know, they even espresso. I go come on man I got this and I know I'm with you every time I go to New York I have to you to tell you food

Like I'm looking forward to made the jersey shows so I could get some fucking new jersey Italian food

I can't think of it. I'm gonna take you to town deals bro. You love this piece. Let's go

You will you love it. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna come up next. Sure. I love it. I'm sure I love pizza. No, no They just they're fucking no bleached no probate. Don't give me some of it But it's so I because I could eat it. I could eat three slices on the way to my school and I'm not fucked up I could train and it's fucking if I did that would have fucking regular slice of beer You don't want to take a nap. You know, so it's so it's even my wife now. What is the zero zero

flower for? Yeah, we get it. She makes the pizza. She makes fresh bread I feel like I got a game of thrones and then maybe my suit that place so I think the Vegas place Yeah, got tunnels. Yeah all Italian flower. Oh handmade pasta. Oh, yeah tonight. We want to go to a place

My fucking hotel if you did that if it would have an effect

You know, who cured his fucking ulcerative colitis is George St. Pierre? How did he said it's one of the reasons why he was stop and fighting fasting fasting

“Did that that's what he said. But he does are court like three long shit. Yeah, he does like at least three three days”

No, I can't do that. I do 24 hours of time. Yeah, but that's not that hard You know, I mean, you just you stay busy enough. I think if you're busy definitely you could Just eat a big dinner when a chance of the next dinner. What is that chair? Oh You got there. You got him in all sorts of different things. It all started for me. But uh, it is tasty. That's delicious. Yeah I love it. They're illegal in California. They all isn't everything. We can't can have flavored

nicotine in California. What the fuck? What the hell is that about? Is that like because they just want to be able to tell you what to do? Yeah, that's how the symptom of the you could go buy whiskey. You go to CVS and buy a juggle whiskey and drink yourself to death. But you can't buy flavored zins. You can't buy no flavor. It makes zero cent of my flavored vapes because they don't want to encourage kids because you know how kids are they just want to they want flavored zins. It's so stupid. California is just so dumb.

They just want to tell you what to do. It's a bunch of nannies and if it's legal, they're going to tax it and regulate it exactly. And everybody's moving out. People just fleeing that state like it's on fire. It's coming here. They're coming here. They're going to Tennessee. They're going to Florida. They're going anywhere. They can just be left the fuck alone. I think I have to be. You look so much better. No, well, hell, everybody's running out of there too. Not me. I'm not there in the life. I'm not going to go

that. Yeah, it's just sucks when the government gets goofy. You're like, what are you talking about? Now that Kathy Hulchel lady's saying back in a people on the beach and get get those people to

“come back to New York. Remember before all of you go move the floor? Yeah, that's what she said.”

Which is a crazy thing to say. That's a crazy thing to say. It's so delusional. But that lady's not anyway. She said there were little vaccines were gift from God. Like she said. She talks crazy. It's like people were so tired at Cuomo, they're like, who else? Okay, fine. You run it. You know what I mean? It's like how did that lady come like the your best choice? It seems nuts. That makes me concern that Stephen Corbe is doing the next fucking Lord of the Rings.

Who's like he's writing the movie or something. And him and his son. Really? And I know he's a fucking little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little co-bear. Yeah, co-bear. Peter Jackson. Peter Jackson was making an announcement. I know all the nerd news. Peter Jackson was making an announcement about a new Lord of the Rings movies coming out with and I'm partnering up with. Well, let me show you. And also, they go to Stephen Corbe reading a Lord of the Rings book.

Oh, hey, you know, they planned it. And he's like, yeah, I took it from this part of the thing. She's going to have any damage on the edges in there. A poor token. They shit over his thing. That rings a power is just a fucking mess. Piece of shit.

Is this rings of power? The Amazon series of the Lord of the Rings is the biggest pile of shit next to the aculite. Everybody shit on our fucking childhood was shit on. They shit on the major franchises that had some really good lore, like everything from Star Trek with the fuck they do. Did everything Disney touch. They fucked up. Marvel. Everything. Yeah. How do you fuck up Orcs? They may have been terrified. Yeah, no, they were terrifying. I mean,

fuck up the Hulk. They make him smart. They make him push even. Dammit, kick this ass. And he never got his balls back.

“If that's kick this ass. Right. Yeah, that's an Orc bro. No, yeah, no, what should we do with the helmet?”

- Click on that, click on that. - Click on that. - Click on that. - Click on that. - Click on that. - Click on that. - She's not on it. - She's not on it. - Don't know how to feel it. - Don't know how to feel it.

- Oh no, it's fucking brutal. - Guys, have feelings for real? - Yeah, he had feelings and yeah. - Yeah, that's what's up, feeling. - There's no more good for... - 'Cause it's supposed to be like demons.

- Nope. - No, no. - No, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - One of the lower right-hand corner with the fucking helmet, I'll look at that one. - Oh, fuck yeah. - I don't know his back story, he might be a good guy. - Oh my god, they were like, you know, oh my god, they're the best. - Oh my god, they're the best. - Oh my god, they're the best.

- You want him to be a good guy. - You want Orcs Old School, like from some movies.

“- That's why that night of the 70 Kings was refreshing, 'cause they had no bullshit in it.”

- They looked there, you go, wow. - Wow. - Well, give the guy a chance, who knows, maybe it's awesome. - Let's say he was, uh, had a cameo and desolation of small, oh, no shit. They did an animated series that, uh, the War of Rohan, which was a piece of shit. They made a girl boss in there that had shit, that all the cool dudes get killed.

And the girls killing everybody, and she knows everything, and they took it from, like, one, like, she was in like one paragraph and fucking, and the thing, and they just gave her this big backstory of being a bad ass. - It's like the Fantastic Ford with the female silver surfer. - She appeared in maybe one or two comics. - Yeah. - Spitch is not a main character, no shape, no hell, but boom. - Well, there she is. - Is the real silver surfer in it, too?

- No, they did the same silly. - No, they did the same silly. - Why the, there was a female silver surfer for a while? - No, like, very, like, very sporadically. - Oh, but they appeared in one or two. - Yeah, it was actually his, now you're getting on my nerd side. - Yep. - It was his guy before he was the silver surfer, like, Shalabal, his, it was his chick. - And the Russo brothers, they, they, they, they've been hitting it out of the park with every Marvel movie they did.

- Yeah. - So they're doing doomsday, which is going to be coming, which is basically going to be,

they're putting out and game again in theater, in the theaters. - And she's gonna be like, correctly, like, it's going to take place directly. - Oh, yeah. - Good. Good. - Well, her growing day, Thor's coming. - They, they, I'm fucking ready for that. - They did win the soldier. - It's like the highest level of Thor. - Oh, that's funny.

- Let's keep going. Oh my God, he's such a nerd. - He's not a nerd. - He died wrong. - He died wrong. - Oh, those are his comments. - Oh, Thor. - He's so a story such a crazy, they were a grown-ass man. - Being a fast fucking grown-ass man. - That's your last level of Thor.

- That stuff's my WWE. I love you. - Yeah. - 'Cause I grew up on the car. - That's me. I love him too. - They ruined those fucking movies, man. It's fucking Thor.

“- Yeah. - Ragnarok was fun, dude. - Love and thunder?”

- Powerful. - Oh, my friend, the rock monster. - And his life made Bob. - Right? - What the fuck? - What is that? What does that have to do with me?

- You gotta give credit to the DC movies, then, because they never ruined Batman.

- You know? - The most recent Batman's, at least, Christian Bell, Batman, right? - And then you want to rob the power monster. - You're still pretty dark in dark? - Yeah. - There's no bullshitting them. - Yeah. - They fucking murdered that Thor to kill them.

And Thor, like, Christian Bale played Gore in that movie. In the comics, that is the fucking best Thor story. Thor's, like, first of all, he didn't love him like he did on the movie. But he's killing every, killing all the other gods. Like, I mean, Thor, his fucking dad had to get a whole crew to come and fight this guy.

And none of that really was showed in the movie. - It was horrible. - Love and thunder. [laughter] - I didn't know he was not the nerd. - Oh, for comics. - Oh, I didn't know.

- Why didn't he do it like the fucking, oh, wow, look at him there. - See, if you can look in the comics, like the comic version of Gore, because it's not even close. - So this is already turned into, - This is how we should, yeah, that was shit. - Damn, look out, look at his, click on that, what your cursor's on.

What the fuck man? - Yeah, he was a perfect god to play it, but they just ruined the character. - Yeah, he can't blame Christian Bale. - Yeah, they should have done it just by the comic books. He shouldn't be able to rewrite history like that and fuck it up. - See, if it's, it's, uh, Gore, the god butcher.

[laughter] - How many Thor's are there?

“- How many Thor does the same guy, it's just levels? - Oh.”

[laughter] Explain that, uh-oh. Whoa, damn, he looks good in the movie. That's pretty dope. - Probably else, they're just the renderings,

I don't know that there's shun stuff like this. - When does the movie come out? - Later this year. - Dude, he comes out this year and so does Dune Messiah. - That's a good year to be a nerd. - Yeah. - Well, the nerd movie saw the best. - If you think about it,

- Comments for movies are like a hundred percent currency. - The Harry Potter show that they do on HBO, I've read, find out this is true. Put this in a perplexity, I want to play high sponsor.

If they made, they cost them a hundred million dollars each episode.

- What? - The new one that's coming out? - This new one apparently, it's so-so-highly produced. It's like, they, they've, they've risked a billion dollars. - Oh, my gosh. - Oh, my gosh. - It's supposed to be insane. - The Harry Potter, but it's Harry Potter.

- I feel like you can't miss with Harry Potter. - All right. - Except with trans people. - There's a, there's a lot of controversy with the casting because they did a, a race swap with Snape. Snape, he's like a guy that's, hundred million dollars right. - That's gonna be a rough one, man, because his backstory is not good.

- It hasn't been confirmed yet.

“Several recent reports claim the budget is around a hundred million per episode.”

- Seven plant season, eight episodes per season, 56 episodes total. That per episode figure implies an estimated total production cost of about five point six billion dollars. - It looks like it's done well. I saw the, come on. - How are you, you have to.

If you're gonna do a Harry Potter, you're gonna do it to the maximum. - I gotta get in a Harry Potter, because there's not a lot of black characters in it, but there is one. - Just one now. - It did, this is what it is saying. The one character, guess what his name is.

- I'm not guessing anything. - Dean Thomas. - Shut the fuck off. - I swear to God. - I swear to God. - I swear to God. - How am I real, I swear to God. - How am I real? - How am I real? How was it?

- That you got another guy there. - That's real, that's real. - It is best known the real way, but the, yeah. - There it is. - There it is.

- Dean Thomas, that's correct. - That's correct. - I can't hear you. - Not many black people out of here. - The one is Dean Thomas. - So why is it controversial?

- Why is it controversial? Because they were very swapping. - Because his backstory

“was, I think he was in love with Harry's mom”

and then they fucking, I think they all beat him up and stuff. It's just not got a good look if it's, you know what I mean? Because he plays black Snape. So you're implying that they beat him up because he's black. - Well, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying something like that.

- I'm saying to me Kim, like a character that's, it's, I don't know. Why does he, I mean this? - It could be, it could be interesting. - It's kind of, if they just followed the books,

it's going to be amazing.

- I, you know, I miss, I was a little bit older. My kids love the Harry Potter. You know, people, adults read the books and shit. - I think it's the most successful books of all time. - Yeah. - I think so.

- I think it's like right up there with the Bible. - Damn, I feel bad for that lady. - She got, she got crucified if it just, - Comparing the sales of Harry Potter. - She's not there.

- She got crucified for being logical. - Right. - And telling the truth and trying to protect women. And all these fucking peoples, these actors are still saying, she said problematic things.

I want to hold them down. So tell me what she said that's problematic. - Yeah, that was a bit unfair to her. - It was an article written about this one actor that did it where it said he is more concerned with being on the right side

of Hollywood than the right side of history. And that's accurate. - Yeah. - Because these people all don't want to offend these dorks and Hollywood that are out of their fucking minds.

And normally commercially, commercially. What does that mean? - enormously commercially successful. But the Bible is sold far more copies overall.

Harry Potter series has sold over 500 million copies,

estimated for the Bibles around five to six billion copies. How many copies of the Quran have been printed? - I mean, there's also multiple versions of the Bible, and there's seven books of Harry Potter. So there's not seven, you know?

- Right, right, right. - You could break it down. There's 45 books in the Bible and those are also, you know, I don't know. - Yeah, but most people buy it as the Bible. - Correct.

- I know, but there's also King James Bible. There's the Bible. - Right. - And there's the Old Testament. - Yeah.

- So by fewer copies, Harry Potter book sales are estimated to generate about $7.7 billion in revenue. - It's not a Harry Potter and every hotel room. - Dang. - That's true.

That's a good point. That's a good point. - Yeah, they keep that Bible in that hotel room just in case. - Right. - That's a weird thing, right.

- Yeah, why do they do that? Why do they do that? - Well, I think someone donated it. Like there was, there was a Bill Hicks joke he did about it back in the day.

I forget, there was a name on the Bible.

Like someone like one family donated Bibles

to like every hotel room. - I think that's it. Is that it? - I mean, I'm one of the Canadian family.

“I think that was the joke that was part of the joke.”

Who the fuck are the Gideons? - I was so depressed when I got here. I brought my metacwest and I realized I brought two right controllers. - Oh my God.

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You know, I deserve it. - I'll tell you. - I deserve it. - No, you deserve it. - I'm scared.

- I'm scared. - I watched it. - You should be able to squat up. - No, no, no, no. - Go on.

- You would get addicted to this. - No, no, no, no, no. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like a problem. - Dude, it was real problem.

- Yeah. - It was like-- - I can't play these. - It was like a cracker that couldn't get his light on working. - I want you back.

“- 'Cause that's what I like to kill time here when I'm fucking--”

- I made a decision a long time ago to never bring a gaming setup

with me on the road. - Yeah. - I'm like, I can't do it. - Yeah. - Where it goes?

- I'll be up to four o'clock in the morning. - I'll be up to four o'clock in the morning. - Yeah. - I'll be-- like, any first person shooter where you're running around a map

and there's another dude on the map and you gotta get a rocket launcher and fucking-- - It starts to feel real. - It feels very real. - It feels very real.

- That's night that I could go back to. - What is this one? - Oh, this is dope. - Oh, my God, it's doomed. - It's doomed in VR.

Oh, no, this is a problem. - I gotta find this. - But I actually think this is the quick one. - The quick one player of quick one. - Yeah.

- Oh, it is quick one. - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - You like the quakes though, love it. - But I'm more of a quake three arena guy

because quake three arena. Like show 'em some quake three arena. They got the graphics down and then they had it set up where everything was online. So you didn't have to buy the new version of quake

and download it to your computer and run it and play it. No, it's online. So you just log in and you're playing this streaming. - It's fucking phenomenal. - It's like that now.

With the meta, we just get updates. - Show some highlights of gameplay. - So you see what it looks like. - It's supposed to be the VR. - It is.

- Oh, this is the VR version. Oh, Jesus Christ. Why are you showing me this? (laughing) - Don't show me this.

- 'Cause I was gonna tell you next that they have vision pros being updated now so we can play. - Fuck off. - Fuck off. - Don't do this to me.

This is my game. This is my game. I fucking love this. - I just got a star link. I can't get it to this.

- Shut the fuck up. - Oh, you're just kidding. - I'm not doing this. - Is it a battle away? - Oh, you just got to kill everybody?

- Yeah.

The problem is man, I start doing it.

And if I start fucking people up, I can't stop. - It's fun, dude. - And I got pretty good at it. Not like, you know, I could win tournaments. Good, but I got pretty good at it.

Like I fuck these guys up. The dudes in the studio are fucked up. - Oh, dude. - I'll get real addicted to it. - That's a problem.

- Yeah, that's a problem. - That's a plan online and just going into real.

“- Next thing you know, yep, your life is always.”

- Oh, this is one of my favorite maps. - Oh. - You balance out to this one and everybody could see you. So they're all sniping you where you're trying to come back. When you get the god power.

- No, you just fucking destroy everyone. - Wait, are you speaking my language? - Yeah, look at this, bro. You got a rail gun, precision movement. Boom, look at that.

That's the rail. Look at the rail gun, bro. You got to have super accuracy. Boom. And while you got god power, you just have to hit them once.

Boom. Boom. Look at that. Oh shit, this guy's got timing. - This is a dick.

- Oh, give me that pipe maybe. - Give me that pipe. - It's so funny. - But that was VR.

I would never have a life.

I don't have a life. I can't do it. - It just helps balance me out. - You know what it's like, dude, it's like you're just who if you never got tired.

“- Ah, yeah, well that's what that's why you have the battery life on it.”

I think if you've never got tired, you just do it all day. - If you never got hurt, you never got tired. - Right. - You just be trained in constant. - Especially if you were fucking people.

- Oh my god. - Always win in tapping people out. - Once you got to a certain level, I mean, this is to me straight crack. - Oh, dude, that looks fun.

- Come on, how fun is this game? You're swapping weapons instantaneously. And you have certain weapons set to different keys. Like, my rail gun is always this middle, the wheel button. I hit that motherfucker.

I hit the rail gun. And you can adjust your speed of your mouse depending on the weapon. - Do you hear the other players? Do they complain when you use a certain weapon? - Um, I don't know if they use that with this.

I never did.

I don't, when you chat with Quake,

you would have to pull the menu down and chat. If you have a bunch of people talking what you're playing, it's going to ruin your game experience. - Yeah, sometimes with this. - I wish I were friends. I don't want anybody talking shit.

I just want a kill you. - They're like, "Good job, man. Good job, punk." - They call me, "unk." - Good job, punk. You have to use a shotgun pussy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I try to be mature, but you're dead, you little f*cking guy.

“You should use a shotgun, cock, cock, cock.”

- Yeah, they could play when I kill him. - They're like, "What are you 30?" You play in a game? - Well, I'm actually 50. (laughter) - Thank you, kid. I'll think 30.

- I'm only as old as Tony. - Oh, my goodness. - It's Tony. - Oh, my goodness. - It's Tony. - It's Tony. - It's growing. My wife was in high school. I found out Madonna was 26. I was like, "Oh, she's old."

(laughter) - Dude, I'm ready for a fight at 35. I was ready for trig. And I had G-Unvalente there. Now he's old of him. It's now. He's like, "Do you guys have a field of be 35?"

- I go, "Don't fuck you!" - I'm like, "Fuck you!" - Fuck you, dude. - I bring that up to 40 now. - I just say you caught up to me a little, you know? - Yeah, man. - You know? - It's weird, we're all dying.

- I know. I mean, I think about, like, we've got my time left. - Slow to process. - I'm 58. - What are you, Johnny? - 57. - Oh, you guys could've worked high school together. You look like a classable. I'm 51.

- Young man! - I'm still only 49. - You're full of shit. I'm 49? - Yeah. - All right, I like it. - I thought you would be like a Brazilian. How do we go crazy? He's the lie about his fucking age.

Like a chick. - I know. - Dude, you're my age. What is that saying fucking 29 still? - No, no, no, it knows how old your well is. - Oh, yeah, I got it. - He's probably older.

- Yeah, I know. - I'd be older. - It does feel weird when you say 51. Like, when I say 51, I'm like, "My 50's!" - And I'm like, "Well, you don't think you're nearly 50. - You'll be at me too. I'm almost 60."

- I mean, when we were growing up, those 60 was broken down. - Yeah, that's a big difference for him. - Shout out to Ways to Ways to Ways to Ways. - Right, right, right, right, from life med from your home. - Yeah, but, well, do you hang out with younger guys?

- 'Cause I hang out with your audience. - In the gym, you're with younger people. - Yeah, it's some sand. - Moes with younger comics. Unless it's Ron White. - Right, yeah.

- It's those worlds. And I bet you, when you hang out with Ron White, doesn't feel young and I would an old man. - No. - It's like me and Longa, right? - Right, that guy's awesome.

- Longal is 67. - I hate to say, he'll throw away something that would just be so funny, well, he'll be dying laughing. He's a naturally funny dude. - Yeah.

- And just a sweetheart of a guy. - He was good in time, he was awesome. - Oh, he's great, and I like that show. - Yeah, well, you know, he's homies with Shane.

Shane's always there too.

- Yeah. - Tonight, it's, but that's again. Like young people that are doing the thing we all love to do, haven't fun. - Just like, it's just like anything else.

You know, I mean, this idea that you have to one day grow up like that's not true. I'm here to tell you, it's not true.

“You should grow up in some ways like being a good dad.”

Take your your taxes, you know. That kind of stuff? - Well, you look good. - After that? - After that shut up.

Shut up, have fun. - Oh, that's true. - That's me in a fucking nutshell. - Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you playing those games. Just don't tell those kids how old you are.

(laughing) - I don't do the cool meal, man. - You guys have 30. - I'm like, you little fuck. - Yeah, but it's not known.

- Don't have a heart attack for real. - Yeah, you have to take any shit breaks in the middle of your VR experience. - I'm not a puff, I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff.

- I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff.

- I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff.

- I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff.

- I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff.

- I'm not a puff. - I'm not a puff. - You've seen those multi-directional treadmills, but I'm not doing those games on now. - I'm not running my knees, I'm not good for that. - So this is a treadmill, like a circle.

- It goes in any direction, I think, that caught, and you're strapped in with the harness.

- You just move. - They will move like you're right. - You would be in some shape. - You'd be some people in better shape. - Oh, do you think how good that would be for your footwork?

If you could have a VR, this is a good VR boxing game. One of the things that I noticed when I was playing, it was my feet were hurting, because I was doing it on concrete, on cement, and I was wearing converse all stars, and he just push it off your feet all the time, and I was like, oh my god, I'm getting a footwork out. This is crazy.

It was gasing me out, because you really see the guy who pops you, everything goes white. That's don, and you want to get him back and you're moving around, there's a bunch of them. - I got to get into that one.

- They're tiring.

“I think that's what you did is when you hold the gloves, like if you hold the hand”

things, like this, it shows the gloves like this. So when you're punching, it looks like you're punching them wrong, so it fucks your head up. You know what I mean? So when you're twisting the punch, it's showing this and it puts your head up.

- Give it a fucking wing chunk, yes. - Well, if you punch like this, then it looks like the knuckles are coming up, but you're doing this. - Oh, yeah. - You figure how to can't they get that?

- They should get that right. It should be where your hands are positioned. - Exactly. - So if you hold it like that, it should be the gloves are like that, and then you try to like that.

- Right. - So that way it doesn't fuck with your head while you're punching that thing, because it's weird. - Clearly the developers want to punch. - Yeah.

- But I think there's some real benefit in it for real, because first of all, it's harder to hit air than it is to hit a thing, so you get a little workout doing that.

The things don't weigh much, but you always put like a little wrist, wrist weight or something

or someone could make a control that has led in it. It has a couple of pounds for each one, you would get good endurance doing it, and you do in a lot of footwork drills, because you're a little bit chanker when they're done. - You put it around. - You put it around.

- And it's also showing you how to move away from things and counter. There's a bunch of different things that you could actually apply to, it's better than real shadow boxing. - Yeah. - But they say it's like, it's like, yeah.

- Intense, extreme shadow boxing. - Yes, yes, it's like, you really visualizing, because there's an actual thing in front of you. Now, I think there's benefit to it. I think it would help you.

“- I mean, 100% I think there would be benefit.”

- Yeah, and you're not getting hit, right? So it's timing more. - Not getting the CTE or what? - Right. - If you're getting, it's not, it's going to replace sparring.

You're always going to need to sparring, but it'll give you a lot of like, neural pathways to different movements that you'll have like programmed in you and a fight with zero consequence. - Right. - That's great. You can't do what you did to, unfortunately, but you probably could be with a robot one day.

- Right. - You get a good AI robot, you know, that's not going to spas out on you, right, fucking head off.

- I would never trust that.

- Right. - I have to say I got mad. - Yeah, maybe. - Yeah, maybe. - I'm going to show you my real strength.

- Yeah, right. - Deep in this next row, I'm not going to go easy on that. - What? What do you mean? - Don't watch it.

You know what? - Look at me, if I can take a look, and only because they look human, the cyclones. I'm watching the battle saga, I was going to watch it. - It's great. - It's really good.

- It's really good. - What is that on? - I'm almost on the list on the sci-fi network years ago, and it's like unappreciated series. Like one of the greatest sci-fi series of all time. The reboot of battlestar Galactica, I was super skeptical.

Because battlestar Galactica, when I was a kid, I loved it. - It was super camping, it was a very camping.

“- And then all of a sudden Skywalker was a girl now, I was like, "What?”

"Or Starbuck, Starbuck was a girl now." - Katie's amazing. - She's great now. - That fucking series rules dude. - It's a great, it's a great writing.

- I'm on the first season, I'm almost on what it now.

I got like an episode left, way better than the original series. - It's really, it's really fucking, it's phenomenal. - It's really good. And the siloance care, the fuck outta you, and they're hot, hot chicks. - Yeah.

- It's all in your life. - Oh, my favorite. - It's good, yeah, everybody's favorite. - It's great, it's a great fucking series. - John James Elmo, sort of. - James Elmo.

- Yeah, he was great now. - He was amazing. - Did he die? - I don't know, James Elmo's. - Is he all right?

- There's no way to change this. - Edward James Elmo's. - That's right. - He was great in that. - He's great now.

- Yeah, I wish you a present movie. - Remember that? - Yeah, well, that, I wasn't blown out. - But everybody, you got in trouble with that. - Yeah, they wanted to kill him,

because they made it out like these dudes were fucking each other in jail. - Oh, that's not, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, even if they are. - Yeah, don't talk about it. - Yeah, snitches get stitches.

- Yeah, man. - I think people died because of that movie. - No, yeah, I think people were killed. - Yeah, I think he's heard something about that. - Yeah, yeah.

- Makes you not want to go to jail. - Well, I just don't think they let these dudes know how they were gonna portray them in jail. And I think, you know, they weren't happy about that. It's a weird disrespect.

Is he alive? Ever James almost? - Yes. - Oh, it's a good thing. - 79.

- He's phenomenal in that show, phenomenal in that show.

- Yeah, yeah, I just got, I, I, I think I heard you talking about it, and I put it in a, I got on Amazon Prime.

I bought the first season, it's fucking good.

- There's another Amazon series. What's it called? Not the Eclipse, the Expans. - Yes, yes, I watched a bunch of those. I had to get back into that.

- I sometimes get to watch a little chatty. - I watched a couple of them, I was like, I'd see this could be really good, but my wife wasn't into it, so we abandoned it. - It's good.

- Keep hearing. - Keep hearing. I hear once you get past like the first few episodes it really picks up. - Yeah, it's good.

It has a, Thomas, Jane, what's the time of Jane? - Oh, yeah, he played a lot of shit. - Yeah, he's in at, at least the first season. It's good. - The lead guy reminds me of John Snow.

- What have you seen? - Really? - He looks like a skinny old John Snow. - Oh, and I haven't played the punisher, right? - Yeah, he was a bunch of people played him.

- He's going to people play the punisher. - Well, I mean, the guy fell down. - Don't do it. - He wasn't doing it. - Why didn't you do that?

- That's back in a day. - Yeah, wait back in a day. - He had at least four or five. - He gave him a fake stubble, and it was obvious. It was like literally like the make-up that he didn't even try.

- Yeah, he did. - It was just fun. - It's the fake. - That's like the worst. - The fake stubble you've ever seen in your fucking life.

See if you can find that. Dove, London, face, stubble from the punisher. - It's like you look in it that go like just leave him unshaven. - Yeah. - He was cool.

- Yeah, he was cool. - He was a guy from Roan, Steve, and Steve. - I know, but you can't see it in there. Like a photo from the actual movie. The actual movie, it looked like,

why does he have smudges or his cheeks? - Yeah, I like Baron Thuld, the best. - The new Spider-Man movie, he's going to be in it, the punisher. - The punisher's supposed to be gigantic, though. - He's supposed to be like that dude that plays Reaper.

- I thought Racer had a major-- - Yeah, Adam and Richard. - Yeah, Adam Richmond. - Yeah, he's supposed to be like Adam Richmond.

“- Yeah, that's what the punisher's supposed to be.”

- He's supposed to be a giant jack dude who kills everybody. - And good for Richard, if it's smackin' that guy around that guy, I got deserve it, right? - Yeah, he looks like he's running dead with his kids. The guy got in his face, made him drop his bike,

got in his face again, he deserved the smack push. - The smack push to him off his bike. - Yeah, you know how, that guy looked like a retard. - Well, he said he was drunk, so the guy smelled like booze. - I know shit.

- Smack him up. - He was asking, they showed the cops version of the video when they went to his house. He was like, "Can you run a toxicology on that guy?" 'Cause I think he's drunk.

He's my one liquor. - The guy tried to knock him up. - Well, you'll see that guy, what are you doing? - He pushed him down. - He's real lucky he had that camera on.

- Yeah. - You know what I mean? - Oh, cause I'm not-- - I don't know. - 100% 'cause he only got to see him beat in that guy up.

That would've been a real fucking problem. - 'Cause that guy denied it. But he had a camera goin' on his chest, man. - Yeah. - Luckily.

- Yeah. - You see that guy grabin' the bike and push him. - Yeah.

- Got put hands on him first.

- A friend of kids, man, there's so many people out there-- - You're on a bike and you fall in the bike falls in your leg. - Like you fucking idiot. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Break someone's fucking leg that way. - You're on a truck. - 100% warranted. When I went to go see that project, how may I read the other day?

- Dude, this motherfuckers, I got the second row, and sure enough, the first row, like, five teenagers, dude, they don't even, they have their phone, and it's bright, and you see it. Like, they don't give a fuck.

The lady, there's a couple next to me. Older, the lady comes out, she takes her thing out. I'm like, what, I feel like saying,

“you should know better lady, what the fuck?”

And the kids, I want to say, a couple times I got up, and then they put it down, I'm like, I know I'm gonna say something, and if I get the wrong response, am I gonna smack a 15-year-old?

Am I gonna smack, if I get a fuck you guy, what's gonna happen? 'Cause I'm not totally normal. I mean, you know what I mean? I just don't wanna, 'cause this right in this wrong,

a whole generation has not been checked, they're gonna get smacked 'cause they're valid. And I just see UFC fighters next to me, they're all, 'cause I see that happening. But anyway, I got out of there with nothing,

but it's always, the kids are so addicted to their phones,

they can't put 'em down for five seconds. - Just have, it's crazy. - Yeah, it's crazy. - In movie theater, they can't stop texting people. - Yeah, it's 'cause they're not enjoying anything. Everything they're doing, they're getting distracted.

- Yeah, yeah. - Which is crazy. I feel like talking to their parents. - That's not gonna help. - You know, now.

- No, you gotta smack 'em. - So much guys, man. - Man, I'm sorry. - That happened, our generation, if you acted a fool, you got slapped.

- Yeah, if you talked mildly with the movie theater, someone's gonna get up, you know, if you were loud in the movie theaters. - Yeah. - People would get up and hate shut the fuck up.

- Yeah. - Like I've seen that happen many times in movie theaters. - Yeah, people almost getting fights. - They don't do that no more. - That is, there's no repercussions.

“- I think a whole, what did my ties and say?”

The a lot of, what do you say? He said something like, a lot of people he used to talk and shit when I get to smack. - So you get punched in a face. - It's something like that, yeah.

- And it's true, people just don't worry about anything, you know? - But there's also so many streamers that are doing these things online where they're provoking people on purpose,

- I hate that.

- Yeah, I like when they get smacked.

“- Yeah, they think it's like they're creating content”

by harassing these people, fucking with old people, like just walking up to people in the store and doing shit to 'em, I don't understand it. - Tiki elbow that kid in the face. - Oh yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's starting shit with everybody. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't think that that, I'm like, that's warranted.

- Yeah. - You're in my face, tell me, you're gonna fuck me up. I can do this. - He said he's gonna fuck him up and then he got close to him, like he's gonna bump into him.

- Yeah. - But I mean, you know what they don't even give a shit 'cause they get clicks. But that's because they're getting hit by like regular people. Well, he's offered a Tiki case,

but they're getting by regular people, like I'm waiting for the opportunity to ladies for five on somebody's chin. (laughing) I'm trying to put somebody else charge you.

- The press charges, they'll sue you. - I'm also, you know, if you knock somebody out and they fall in it, they're heading to die. That's a fucking trouble. - Yeah, that'll be a problem.

- And that's a real possibility. - Yeah. - The body shot. - They're literally in that liver shot, right, but you know you're not gonna throw it.

- Oh, yeah. - He's done. - He's gotten a fight with the former UFC heavyweight champion and the current. - Bareknuckle boxing champion in the world.

- You dumb asses. - That was hilarious when I saw this. - Look at he's just tean off on. Do you imagine you getting Andre or Loske's face?

“How the fuck do you not know who he is, first of all?”

- Again, my point is actually, how do you not know who Andre or Loske is? - And they think I got a body guard's next to them to try to shout out to that dude. - When's Bareknuckle boxing?

- Oh, I'll ask he's a stud. - Yeah, he's still getting after it. And he still seems to enjoy it. Like almost 30 years in the game. - And he's kinda wrote off his chin a while ago

and then all of a sudden it's like,

I never saw a chin make a comeback.

- I'm gonna do it. - Oh, incredible, come on. - He said he thought he could really be a contender if he just had a proper chin. Like he said his boxing skills were there.

- Well, I mean, there was so many times when he got clipped, like the fatal one was the wildest. - He was winning that fight. - He was. - Yeah, he was constantly in the middle of a jumping knee.

- Yeah, big mistake. - Laces out moment right there. - Fator, that motherfucker just found ways to win. He just found ways to win. - Sure, dude, remember when a random man was a random one

and then went to the game. - He didn't play. - Someone has knacked. - Yeah, then he camored him. - Yeah, like, yeah.

- Maybe he's a camora gorilla. - Yeah, I'm saying. - And random man was so explosive. - He was so fast. - I thought it was just nothing fun.

- He has so much muscle fiber. - Pretty high 100, 100, right?

“- He had the worst half I've ever seen in my life.”

- Oh, you can see it, right? - He had holes in his armpit. - Oh, he lifts his armpit up. - And you can see that the skin was gone. You can see the tendons and all the legumes in his armpit.

- Yeah, see if you can find a gym. - Oh, no. - The craziest thing is stuff. If you don't get that shit treated right away and you let it get systemic.

I mean, it probably led to his early demise. It probably was something that led to him dying early, rest in peace. - Look at that, that's his armpit. - That's his armpit dude.

- He's fucking wallet in there. - You know how crazy that is? No crazy, that kind of hole is what that does to your body. - God damn. - This is not even when that heals up.

Like it's gonna take a long time for your body and get you back to your normal. - Ooh man, staff scary man. - Staff's real scary. - Oh, come on.

- I wanna tell you. - I wanna tell you. - He's spread fought a fight when he got bit by a brown recluse because leg had a fucking hole in it. - Well, those are scary.

- Those fuckers. - Damn. - They necratize you. They're like their venom burns a hole through your muscle tissue.

Oh, it's horrible. You see brown recluse spider bites? - No.

- It's like first it swells up

and you get like a big zit on it and then it eventually eats the tissue underneath the venom. - Fucking spiders. - Yeah, you gotta get that treat the right away and even then it's like really dangerous.

People die from it. Brown recluse are scary, fucking spiders. - See if you can find brown recluse spider injury. - Nasty dude. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - Creepy little fucking bugs out there. - I'm gonna get the eggplant roll of teeny lander. (laughing) - What else do you have?

- I just wanna show you what work works for us today. - That we could move on. - Land. - It's like, dang it. - Yeah.

- Oh, man. - Come on man. - Yeah, it was at a water balloon. - Oh, no. - It burns a hole in you.

- It's just like. - No, what are those things live at? - I don't wanna get bit by that. - Texas. - Oh, they're all over the place.

They're all over the place. - It's, we're so lucky they're little. - Oh, you got that shit out here, those things? - But imagine that was a big as a bear. - Yeah.

(laughing) - It's a good one. - It's a bad one. - It's a bad one. - It's a bad one.

- Dude, in Rhode Island, I guess. We just got some assholes out there, but we don't gotta worry about fucking, we gotta worry about the fucking thing. Things getting a flesh off and shit.

- It's a few serial killers. - Yeah, a few serial killers. - Guys wearing white beadies, that's it. - I was just watching this video where they said the most popular job for serial killer

- Like sense? - Yeah.

“- I mean, you got, I mean, you're on the road.”

- You've got a lot of access to a lot of different people.

- Yeah, and also you think you could move in, - Yeah, moving, moving, moving, moving, yeah. - Before they even know what happened, you're gone. - Yeah. - There's a bunch of them that are linked

to potentially the long-range truckers that they never solved. - Really? - Yeah. - Well, they don't catch a lot of those guys.

- That's what's fucked up. You want to think like, that life's like a movie? - Where they catch them all? - They don't catch them all. - But random killers are some of the hardest to catch,

'cause they just show up, kill somebody, leave. And there's no rhyme or reason to it. They just wanted to kill somebody. So there's no motive, it's hard to tell. And if they've done it and not gotten caught

for a few years of their clever, like a lot of these guys like the zodiac killer, he was brilliant. He wrote things in code. They had, I don't even know if they ever cracked all of it.

They still don't know who the fuck it was. They did that movie.

- Yeah, I thought I saw that movie, right?

- Yeah, yeah. - They kind of made it like it was the Janet guy. - I don't think they know. - I mean, unless there's some new data, unless there's some new information,

I think it's an unsolved mystery, but it was obviously brilliant. So you got a really smart guy who's just randomly killing people and he's also taunting you, letters,

leaving letters behind. - It's gonna be a little more difficult now with all the cameras and shit. - What has John done ever been up to? Does he even know?

(laughing) - What's he doing? - He's in New York at that time. (laughing) - The dark lord trying out new techniques.

- Yeah. - It's fucking great. - All right, boys, should we wrap this up? - Man, good time. - Oh, one more thing we should probably talk about,

the White House card. - Ooh, yeah. - Like, going? - Yeah.

- Unless things get crazy.

- Three now and then. But the idea of them fighting outside in Washington, DC, in the middle of the summer. - Nice sound. - He sounds crazy to me.

You ask someone to dehydrate themselves, to cut weight, you know. I mean, think about Gaci. Gaci's gonna cut, he's got to cut to get to 55. Ilya probably doesn't have to cut too much,

but you're fighting for the world title and you're fighting outside. - That's the new, the new time has not been corrected, which is more something. - We get together.

- So the paper view or the main card starts at 8 p.m. Eastern. - I was in the middle, I was in Abu Dhabi when they did that. - That's a little pattern.

- Yeah, but also, it's thick and rain. - Yeah. - It could easily rain. There's gonna be bugs. Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes.

- What? - Wait, I'm counting a guy in here when you hear him. (laughing) - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Well, they put a ton up over the,

I don't know what they're gonna do. - Back in the day, they had King of Cages. It was like raining out. - It was called wet, wet, wet, wet, wet, wet. - Yeah, yeah.

- It's a mess. - It was a good one. - Yeah, it was a matter of mess. - It's a terrible idea. - I hate it.

- There was a kind of way to rain in that cage. That was a crazy show. - If you're fighting in an elite world

“championship level, you should be fighting”

in a controlled environment. - Period. - It's already a problem enough to fight to deal with - Yeah, like cars. - The extra factors.

- Yeah, it already should make it easier. - You might not get the best fighter, right? - And it also might severely impair someone who's had gone through a big wake cut. - If it's really hot out.

- Yeah, I don't know what it's gonna be like, but we looked it up, wasn't it last year at that same date? - I think I was 20, 25, I guess, four, but still it's like, it was what?

- I was like a hundred degrees. - A hundred degrees, yeah, dude. - You may live it, they're on live in Baltic sea. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It'll be hot, hundred, and huge.

- So everybody's dealing with the same thing though. - So it's not like somebody's got something different than the world. - Right, but it's not fair. - Because people fight over them differently.

- If you're having world championship fights where you're gonna decide who's the best in the world, it should be in controlled environment. - Yeah. - You know?

- The White House, baby? - It's still the fucking, but we were, it's just legal in New York when I was fighting. And now we're at the fucking White House. - It's crazy.

- That's crazy, they're doing it. I support all crazy things. So. - I'm going too, so. - Yeah, I'm just, yeah.

- You have to, it's your job. - I just got, I just got the call for clearance. I'm going to, I'll be watching the Paramount Plus. - Yeah. - Jimmy wanted to go, he's like, can we go?

I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh my god.

“- How many people are gonna be outside in the audience?”

That's the question. - I don't know. - Like how many people are gonna be around thing? - Well, apparently, I think on Saturday's broadcast, they're gonna announce like how it's gonna look.

So like that's part of the, I think part of the law for watching Saturday shows. They're gonna announce how it's supposed to look. - It's exciting though, you gotta say, fuck it. - It's crazy, it's definitely crazy.

- I mean, it's the only customer president to do it. - Yeah. - Oh, this card, you saying this card comes out? - Yes, it comes out. - Oh, he has a very good card.

I'm telling you, the Mersiconov in Paula Costa was the one that I got my eye on. I'm like, that could be very interesting.

It might do him good later in his career

to go up to light heavyweight. - I think so. - Mersiconov's not a big word. - No, he's only five-ten. - Yeah, he's short.

- Yeah. - Wait, the cut, too. I mean, he's not exactly, he ain't, he ain't. - No, no, no, I'm not even close. - He's definitely carries much more body fat on him.

- Who is he for it? That's close to, is he for it? Anybody like it? - Rockets, stop rockets. - Well, yeah, rockets, rockets, rockets, rockets, rockets.

- That's it. - But he hasn't, it's been hard for him to get fights. They may gain a little taller there. - Yeah, but they're a little taller there. - Yeah, but they're a little taller.

- Yeah, but I don't know. - They don't think he said would stop the fight. - Yeah, well, that could be it. - Yeah, that would suck, imagine someone died from getting hit by lightning. - Yeah, they raise their hand up at the end of the fight,

and you hit by lightning. (laughing)

“- That'd be a bad look for the UFC, I think.”

- I just don't.

- Bruce Puffa gets it, I like the idea on paper,

but the fact that I'm gonna be there. - Seek when Jack and the track, and the place in Christ is gonna be crazy. People are probably gonna protest it. It's gonna be nuts.

- Yeah. - It's gonna be a lot of protestors out there. - For sure, all this stuff will go on. It's gonna be a wrong place to come and protest, 'cause it's gonna be a lot of pro-Trump people

in that audience, it could be a mess. - Well, that's what they like. You know, a lot of people that are running this world like when there's fights. - Oh, okay.

- That's the fact. They like riding and they'll connect it to Trump and they'll spin it and connect it to whatever the fuck they want to. - I just wanna see some good fights. - Seerle gone, and Pereira's a very good fighter.

- Yeah, that's an interesting thing. - Very interesting fight, very interesting fight. - Just because a gun poking everybody in their eyes, I'd be happy to see him lose, but he's, I mean, the size is real and he's got legit skills.

- Yeah, it's skills.

- That tied to we've ossified,

remember those common issues isn't tied with? - Woo! - Everything skills also, KO on Netflix. - Setting up the Southlaw to begin one month out, compared to a few days out in normal arena.

Dana and Donald will have 200 tickets each to a sign to who they want, 84 from each will be choosing for a VIP event inside the White House prior to the fights. Most of the rest of the tickets

will go to military personnel. The event will have custom fight kits for all fighters on the card. - Wow. - And then more to come Saturday with us.

- More to come Saturday. - So they'll probably announcement at the UFC that we'll have to talk about. - Interesting. - Nobody's given just in a chance here.

- Justin's a fucking animal dude. - I mean, I love, and McCall technically for it when he had the fight for ZV, he's a very technical fighter. - Yeah, if you go by the way he fought Patty, he kind of just walked Patty down.

He's just like, "Just how I'm gonna create chaos." - But you also got to kind of give Patty a little break when he did get poked in the fucking eye or he drew more than I did get more months on that one.

“- I mean, I think to get, gauge your father's staff”

pretty much everybody thought so. - But that thing on his neck? - Yeah. - He said it wasn't. - And he's seen him grown there.

- I mean, he's not gonna tell everybody he's got through there before the fight. - It could say it after the fight. - He lived good though, you know? - He's a fucking animal.

- And he, and the other reason I think that is, he didn't really get tired and he seemed, like he's mentally so tough he just pushed through the tired, but you could see he was fatigued at the end of that fight. - Well, he's a complicated riddle in the feet too.

He's just good stand up fighter man. I mean, when he knocked out Dustin with that head kick, he's fucking good. - He's fucking good. - He's fucking good.

- I'm gonna gauge if I can. - He can crack. - He loved the same dude. - And into early days man, he was one of the wildest guys to watch ever.

- That Michael Johnson fight was magic. - Just madness. - It was a pretty crazy one. - He just goes, "Let's jump off the cliff together." (laughter)

- He did a thermal wheeze then. - Right.

“- I mean, as we does, in those fights man,”

he was one of the best early in his career at throwing leg kicks from really close to close. - So close. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He got away from that one.

- He got away from that one. - He got away from that one. - He could be injured chins, you know. It could be knocked a lot of guys out with his hands. - Yeah.

- To that one. - And I thought that was one of his greatest weapons being able to be so close to just crazy man. Like a weird flexibility of the hips to be able to do that. And generate power from in close.

- But the right hand or the can. - No, it can't. - He can't do it in a color tie. - And kick it. - Not.

- But power. - Yeah. - Definitely has a chance. I mean, you know, I mean, people will just kind of not even give it a machined. I'm like, "What is that?

"That's how good it is." - Yeah, no, I get it. - He gets hit a lot and they're just putting the equation. - Yeah. - And they're like, "Really, man?

"Italy's got that one punch." - Yeah. - So look at the guys he's done it to, you know, Vulcanovsky, Charles. - Marks.

- Max. - Yeah. - In a row, Ryan Hall. - Three chaos in a row against world champions. - That's crazy.

- Guys, we're not used to getting footage. - Yeah, he's like that, you know. - I like, look, you know, think about how durable Charles is. For him just one shot like that, take him out. That's crazy.

- For Max.

“- I mean, Max did well in the first round.”

- He did. - But till he got hit, till he got hit.

- He'd never been knocked out.

- He's a different dude. - You know, there's levels that this game achieves. As people get better and better, and better, and watch everyone around them. And I mean, Ilya is like, this is the next highest level.

- Right. - You know? - Now everybody's shooting for that. - Boys, lot of fun. - Good time again.

- You know what we do this.

- It's so fun, it's still my favorite podcast. - Hey. - I love coming out here. - It's such a good time. And also I need to find out what's going on in the nerd world.

(laughing)

“- If you want to find out what's going on in the nerd world,”

Matt Sarah channel on YouTube.

I talk all about that geek shit.

That's it. Sometimes I play VR, and I do movie reactions where it's like the mystery science theater where I talk to this guy. - Oh shit.

- Yeah. I took during the movie a lot. Like, Dean, what are you got going on?

“- My movie Flowers short film coming out,”

and I got a new show on Paramount Plus called Deep Waters with Jorge. - Mosvadau, Chris Wyman, and Dustin Porried, as starts next Monday every Monday. - That's the right name.

- Yeah, I like the name. - Yeah, that's a lot. - These letters coming out. - Yep, and we're still doing ground control. Just open the school in Sykesville.

Dustin Porried is actually coming out to there and the spot next door to a stratosphere on May 16th. Showgun, still going. So, ground [email protected], showgunfice.com, and at B-more MMA.

- Look at your bro, promoter, coach, - That's it. - She's your moanner, hustling, hustling. - Alright, thank you. - Thank you.

- Thank you. - Always fine. - Bye, honey guys. (upbeat music)