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Good, just for all of them." I'm joined by California Governor Gavin News and Governor Great to be here with you. Donald Trump likes to claim that he's this great dealmaker. And I negotiate this that and the other.
And it seems like he's never negotiated
at a deal in his life and that he's a deal breaker.
And we're just seeing across the board, whether it's foreign policy or domestic. He loves a breaking things, but he can't build anything.
“I mean, I think it's such an opportunity”
for the Democratic brand to be builders. There's one word that I think we would do well being associated with. It's this notion of building, not just rebuilding, but building and a liberalism that builds.
Literally and figuratively. Builds alliances, builds community, builds understanding and empathy, collaboration, but also builds bridges and roads and broadband and builds housing. Which at the core is the issue I continue to say,
explains more things in more ways on more days around the struggle working families are dealing with, not just in California, but across the country. Governor Donald Trump called the housing affordability. Bill, the big yon, he said that on Monday,
he described it as the who game and cares about this housing affordability thing. And so the guy who was out there promising lower prices, affordable housing, you know, when you are able to bring all of his frauds to its logical conclusion
and you call as a bluff, you're really able to see that it's all just one massive comment. And it's interesting. You know, he said that 24 hours after I signed legislation
of put $11 billion housing bond package to the voters
just literally months after we signed some of the most progressive zoning laws and permitting reforms in America. And I actually know BS, I reached out by partisan way because this was a bipartisan bill to some of the authors congratulating them hours, literally I'm not making this up.
Literally hours before the quote unquote press conference where President Trump was going to sign the bill, I just did assumed that he was going to land the plane and try to take credit for this. Oh, credit.
Only Donald Trump can screw this up. Finally, he could point to a monochrome of progress on again, foundational issue of our time is relates to the affordability crisis. And that's the cost of housing in related issues.
And only Donald Trump could screw it up.
“And I guess honestly, like no BS, it's because it”
wasn't quote unquote his. It's not because he can't lay claim to get any credit. And I just, I've got to assume that's the only reason that he considers it as you suggest. It's at the other day that it's a quote unquote, Yon.
Yeah, and more than a motocom of progress in California, big news earlier today. Some of the new statistics released, like the lowest crime and generations and generations talked to us about what a big deal this announcement was for those who
haven't heard it. You know, I think it was, I'm really proud of these, the data that just came out. I mean, the lowest homicides in recorded history in California. Time for updated talking points on all of those with California
derangements syndrome. The lowest homicide rates since 1966 may be much lower than prior to the 66. It's just the modern data collection was 1966. Violent crime last year down another 10.2%
at every category, property, crimes, robberies, et cetera, below pre-19, 2019 levels and double digit decreases in 2025. And by the way, paint a picture in some of the other states in a moment.
But it was a few years ago, I think I was,
I showed up in with you.
And I talked about the fact, and it wasn't particularly popular, that I went on true social, that I opened
“the first account, and I think any democratic governor”
had opened on true social and people said, well, they were a little offended, why are you doing that? I said, because I was so frustrated on this narrative around crime and violence that the democratic party was losing it to a party that consistently was failing
on this issue, not rhetorically, not perception. But in reality, eight of the top 10 murder states,
it was my first post on true social,
was eight out of the top 10 murder states in America, are from red states, and I asked a simple question, what are the policies leading to such carnage? And the right wing went crazy, fox went crazy, but no one could deny the facts.
And the fact remains, in most of these blue states, across the spectrum of issues, not just on the issues of crime and violence, we outperform these red states, but we don't in terms of public opinion. And so I appreciate the opportunity to come back
and highlight California's receipts on this across the spectrum,
“but I also want to make the case that the democratic party,”
all of us, have a role in responsibility to socialize, not just what's happening in California, but across the nation and point out the fact that states like Texas have significantly higher homicide rates in California.
Property crime rates that are higher than the state of California,
was just looking at the numbers that came out today from the FBI and Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Tennessee has 24% higher rates of homicides in the state of California. Why we are not focusing on that as they're focusing on us
is an issue that has to be addressed in our party. Well, you know, the reason you've been able to bring crime down, though, is if you watch, you've been actually doing things like end policies and doing things isn't easy,
and sometimes it's complicated to explain. It's really easy to just do tough guy talk, but then you eventually got to pay your bills and the rhetoric has to match what's happening and so much with Trump and MAGA is you have this tough guy
to win obliterated and destroyed and that gets pumped out through a trillion dollar propaganda machine, but then the reality looks very, very different and then it seems they're able to exploit the fact that actually doing and solving is complicated
and requires compromise and experts. And that's what we're dealing with to me, that kind of sums it all up sometimes. I couldn't agree with you more. You know, we've seen our crime rates plummet
as I've closed five state prisons. So are the governor history. Can I claim to that? We've closed five prisons. We converted San Quentin to a rehabilitation center
I shut down death row. Another insist anymore. It's San Quentin. Hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the California model as we're reimagining reentry.
We're reimagining the custodial system in the state of California.
We put $1.1 billion into grants to build partnerships
back to the hard work and grind over the course of many, many years with our local law enforcement agencies and DAs and sheriffs. We built partnerships with local law enforcement agency with the California Highway Patrol. I added a thousand new officers to the CHP
and we worked in partnership with the community and local police to do crime suppression strategies, preemptive strategies. Again, the hard work both and not either or not the old binary as it relates to crime and violence. Yeah, it's hard work investing in victim services, investing in the community,
investing in the drivers of crime. The issues around ignorance, poverty and disease. The hard work that needs to be done of a sustainable framework. It's not just about the high profile, we're going to send in the National Guard and DC and lay claim to taking credit for a trend that already existed
before the National Guard arrived in DC. And that was crime was starting to decline. Again, it's all part of the narrative and this is what we're up against. This weaponization of grievance, the surround sound on the other side. And so it's hard work.
And I guess I'm grateful for you to be able to share these numbers.
“I think it our number of other democratic governors”
that claim to some pretty good numbers. But the mythology is still out there. And so we have to be more aggressive. We've got to fight much more aggressively to get this information out there, to get the facts out there and straighten up the bullshit.
We've all due respect, sorry, about the language coming from the right wing. Right, because you list specific policies. Here's how we go about doing it. Here's how we address it. And they go, oh, he said custodial.
That starts with the letter C. custodial communism partnering with the criminals. And then you see it on Fox, boom, the fire hose. There it is. We are partners with the partnership.
This is a California.
It's, it's very, like what I just did. It's the easiest thing to do because it's what three-year-olds, no offense to three-year-olds who are whatever behave. And like, I think what you've seen and what you've been fighting back is you're saying, we can do both.
We have to be policy makers and do shit. Excuse my language.
“And then you have to fight back against it at the same time.”
Yeah, and look, okay. And it goes to the whole core. What is the Democratic Party? What are we supposed to represent? This is what we're supposed to represent.
It's the day job. It's the how business. Doing the hard work. Yeah, it's the politics. Sure, that's important.
The tonality. That's important. You've got to deliver. And this is about delivering real results, real outcomes. And so again, when we have the receipts,
it gets a little more difficult for the other side. Then again, perception becomes reality. And if we're not with the kind of surround sound and intensity, communicating the success, I was with all these. And one of the most interesting meetings I've had in quite some time was
down a long beach, a couple of weeks ago with the US Conference of Mayors. And I met with quite literally. I did three large breakouts with dozens and dozens of mayors all across the United States.
And they were saying, telling you all these incredible stories.
“And I'm like, why the hell are I read about these things?”
And they made the point. It wasn't a knock. They said, you know, there's more than just two mayors in the country. Two East Coast mayors. There's mayors all across the country, delivering real results.
A lot of them in red states, blue cities, delivering real results. And winning elections was 70, 80 percent of the vote. And those are the stories we need to tell. Those policies that they're implementing. They're application of ideals and the practical solutions that they're bringing
to bear. This is the pathway of consciousness. It's also a pathway of understanding of getting back. Not only in Congress, about getting back the White House in 2028. And I think, really, we've got to do a better job.
Bottom up, not just top down. And really start to showcase.
Forget guys like me, so many incredible leaders, young leaders all across this country,
Democrats that every day pragmatically are showing up in delivering real results with policy that deserves to be highlighted. And certainly deserves to be celebrated. And then finally, you know, perception very important when we see Donald Trump's behavior lately.
And you have been unafraid to call it out. I mean, the cognitive and physical decline seems to just be rapidly accelerating to levels. I don't think we've ever even seen. You could even fathom where it's at right now.
Talk to us about what you're observing and how it's view-feel it's a national danger. Welcome on, man. Look, I'm on the receiving end.
“I think I'd to socialize something that I've been dealing with for extended”
period of time. And that's not just the weaponization of grievance. It's a relates to the surround sound of, you know, Fox and, you know, the daily mail and this rag called the California Post and New York Post and all the BS that goes against platform, but also the weaponization of the
Department of Justice, the weaponization of Donald Trump that many other people have experienced, including my friend, Governor Waltz. And by the way, if you haven't read the judge threw out the criminal case against Governor Waltz and it's worth taking a read because it was so outlanders, so outrageous what the Trump administration tried to do to take
him out and down. But he got all the headlines he wanted up front and few people know that that that case was thrown out on the back end. And that's what Trump is all about. And so this is just, he's, we've talked about this.
We've talked about in the context of Prop 50. We've talked about it every single week. You talk about it every single hour of every single day. This guy is still winding up and we saw this Supreme Court today. Some decisions were kind of mixed, particularly on the vote by mail,
which, you know, earlier this week that was critical in terms of of of of of of
protecting and preserving our Republican or democracy. But again, vigilance doesn't even begin to describe what our posture needs to be over the course in the next few months because as you suggest across the spectrum, this guy is failing and increasingly flailing.
And it's self-evident that decline from a physical and emotional and so cognizant perspective. But the power that he continues to wield is real. And we have to again, I think, be absolutely mindful that this, the worst is yet to come, that this is just the beginning.
Optimism, though, before ending on the worst is yet to come. Optimism, man. Yeah, man. Well, just, you know, fight fire with fire. Way back, the way back is the through the fight.
I think you're seeing it reflected in a lot of the elections. It's not through the center necessarily.
It's through the fight clarity conviction.
Fight for work and folks, working families, real solutions to real problems.
How do you, how do you help me? Can you help me raise my wages? How do you lower my costs? How can you address the issue?
“You know, to great conditions where, you know, I feel safe and I sense a community.”
And, you know, and all those things are connected.
The democratize our economy at the same time we try to preserve our democracy. It's the same fight. And if we start to sort of organize that narrative and that consciousness and that thinking, that energy and daring that we're seeing from ductus candidates, but from leaders that are unsung heroes in this fight,
“that again, I hope we can start elevating.”
Particularly these mayors all across this country. We're going to be fine. And one thing and closing, you know, the evidence is in. And people are showing up and we continue to, you know, this party continues to outperform at the state level.
And that's where the action is. Assembly racist, state, Senate racist. We are crushing it.
“And that's what gives me absolute optimism about what happens this November.”
But again, it's about continuing to focus on what's right, not being ashamed of celebrating success, and continuing to call out the bullshit coming from the right. California governor Gavin News some things for joining us. Thanks for sharing those statistics and thanks for making those statistics.
The reality that we see here in California. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Everybody hit subscribe.
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