Explosive Allegations Against Prince, Harry & Meghan’s PR Stunt, and NYT's Glorification of Stealing

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I'm your host, Marion Callahan, before we get to setting the table for our show, I just want to say, honestly, I don't care if AI destroys humanity because they're giving us pomeranians at spas with cucumber slices and making a mess in the kitchen and giving interviews while where they talk about how much they just love being alive and they go into space. So I don't care. I'll take the short-term hit over the long-term effects.

We've got a stack show today, a stack, a stack impact, as we like to say. Celebrity reporter

extraordinaire Rob Schuter will be joining us and we've got some really explosive explosive

exclusive reports on a couple of major celebrities. Stuff that nobody's really talking about

“and that's why the Nerve exists, that's why the Nerve exists. This is stuff that you're”

not going to hear anywhere else and the main story, it's about Prince and it was a heartbreak for me because I have been a huge, huge fan of Prince since I was really, really young and before purple rain, like the controversy record. I just, this one killed me, but we have to do it. We have to talk about it on a later note, Timote, a shamalama ding dong is back making headlines. It's not good, surprise, surprise. We're going to get into that, plus Harry and Megan's latest attempts.

Again, they've got another trip planned. You know, Charles and Camilla are in the United States this week to mark the 250th anniversary of our independence. And these two, we're going to get into it. We're going to get into it, of course, that will be followed by trouble maker feedback. It's been coming in heavier than usual this weekend, which is so great. We're really excited to talk about that. And then we've got a story, a cultural story for the ages. It gets to class. It gets to wealth.

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You're not yet. Not yet. Yeah, but I think it's going to happen. We're doing really, really well. Every time I do your show, every time you're so kind to me, you actually see a bump. It's so

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thank you for coming to my book party that turned into the morine book party. Everybody wanted to

happy and all credit to the troublemakers who, by the way, are emailing me. They're loving it. They're entering the competition. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. We are so thrilled for you.

Now, Rob, let's get into it. Get into it. Work to do. The first story I wanted to talk to you about is one.

I read this over the weekend and it shocks me. And it really, I thought to myself, oh no, we're losing another hero. Another one is Prince. Prince, the 10th anniversary of his death was last week. I remember this vividly because the Empire State Building went purple in his honor the night he died. And that is that is a very significant thing New York City does not play. They do it only for the truly special ones. An explosive report in the UK mirror published April 24th claims that

Prince beat at least one of his girlfriends repeatedly. Mirror exclusive. The truth between me and music legend Prince Jill Jones was a former backup singer for Prince Briggs, Silence. Now, she sat for a Netflix documentary by Oscar winning documentary and Ezra Edelman

“who did the incredible, I think it's like 10 parts. Oh, Jay made in America. If you haven't seen it,”

I can't recommend it highly enough. So this is a very serious serious filmmaker. He was assigned to do a multi-part, docu-series for Netflix about Prince, the estate, shelved it, saying it's released would cause, quote, "generational harm to Prince's image." So the question is, what could be in that documentary? One of the things we're learning now in 1984 Jill says she and a friend went to go see Prince at a hotel where an argument broke out. She was left jealous after he started

kissing her friend. This happens all the time with stars on like level eight as he, you know, prompting her to slap Prince and then she claims Prince responded by punching her over and over in the face. She needed to go to the hospital. His circle said, "Do not. The purple rain tour was about launch. It would have killed his career. The story is all too familiar. Rob, what do you make of this?" A couple of things. First thing is a heartbreaking week, but we don't get to choose who are the

good or the bad people out there. And so people that we grew up listening to and really enjoying their work and not really knowing back in the 80s, it was just so much more difficult to get to know the truth about a celebrity. I was working as a publicist in the early 2000s and it was before cell phones. It was before people had cameras and social media accounts and it was just so much easier to keep a secret. I can't imagine 20 years before in the 80s. It must have been so much easier

that the mainstream outlets were the only outlets and if you didn't play nice you would be bad ones. You just wouldn't have access to the star. That's been true for celebrity royals.

“I think it's even true today. However, what has happened thankfully is that neither our new ways”

of receiving information. There's new gatekeepers. There's new people to tell stories. And so this story, from the 80s, it's just so heartbreaking, but it's not that surprising that it took so long for this story to come out. We know we've been in the entertainment, the celebrity, the gossip business, I have for a really long time. Incidents like Anniversary's bring up memories. That's no great point. Whenever there's a big moment, this is a time when people really think about that person what happened

just on a personal level. I don't think I've ever told this story. But in the early 2000s, I was representing a young singer and we were at the Roosevelt Hotel. They have a club at this fancy hotel in LA. I think the club was called Tegdys, which makes sense. Yes. Yes. Really, the chicest place.

And I couldn't have got in there. We'd never have let me in, but I was there with her. I'm

going to choose not to mention her name as it's her story. But I was there with her. Prince was in the club. And Prince came over and was really kind of aggressive. Really? We were so star-struck that it was Prince that he invited her back to his compound where every was staying. His hotel

“identity had a place in LA. I think he did. And she didn't go. And I'm glad she didn't go. I wasn't”

invited. It was just her. But there was a creepiness to it. And you choose to ignore it. And I forgot about this story until you told me today that we were going to be talking about it.

It's amazing what you can suppress. And nothing bad happened to me. And so I can't imagine having

Particularly when it's your hero that has done something potentially allegedly has done something. It's just heartbreaking. I got to say they're more in back then. The codes of behavior was different. I'm not, I'm not making excuses here. And I'm not. I'm glad that the codes have changed. But I saw stuff in my early days in PR around pop stars and musicians. The thankfully just would not fly today. You just couldn't get away with it. Now, slapping somebody to the point where

crunchy. You're punching. That she was hospitalized. That she had to go.

“No, I don't think she did. I think she was, I think she was made to recuperate. You know,”

the thing about this Rob, you say, you know, thankfully, you can't get away with it today. But regretfully, I have to differ because for my money, Sean Combs got away with it. He did. He did. He did. He did. You're right. You're right. When I say get away with it, I'm not talking about the legal aspects I wish I was. I'm talking about people like you and me. And I'm not passing ourselves on the back here. But I haven't seen other people do this story.

This story either. I thought this story would blow up. Yeah. I did too. I was so grateful that you're talking about it today. And where the people, the trouble makers, not you and I, but the people that are right there listening, they're the people that can make sure this story doesn't go away. But we're not going to see it on the evening news. We're not going to see it on the cover of people magazine. This is a major, major story. And my experience with this, if in fact this story,

“is true, it's not isolated. I remember the first time somebody told me that Ellen was me and”

the first time. And then somebody else told me. And then somebody else, the damn burst.

It's a really good metaphor. We've got our thumb in the dam of celebrity. And once one person's brave enough to keep their thumb out, the floodgate. So I will predict over the next few days, over the next three weeks, maybe even months. We're going to hear more stories because to punch a woman in the face, to punch somebody that you apparently are friends with, that you love. They were romantically involved. To be able to do that, you don't just do it once. And so I will

predict that the princess state or pins and needles at the moment because it didn't just happen once. It didn't, and you know, this documentary, before we move on to our other Prince Blockbuster story that I also cannot believe the mainstream media has not picked up. That Netflix documentary by Ezra Edelman about Prince was the subject of a very lengthy New York Times magazine profile about a year or so ago. And the piece was basically spending like 8,000 words saying,

why won't the estate allow it? And everybody's tiptoeing around, why they wouldn't allow this esteemed by racial New Yorker, the sophisticated guy whose parents are power players has all the right credentials, right? They're very prominent in democratic circles. Why won't the estate let this documentary see the light of day? What can't we see now? We have a little bit a little bit of daylight into why our next Prince, weirdly, there's something going on in the ether. You're, you're so right

about anniversary stirring stuff up because in this mirror piece Jill Jones says, it's the 10th

anniversary and I always thought we were going to find our way back to each other. This is how sick,

you know, it gets with domestic violence and that his death, you know, obviously made that impossibility. The National Enquirer Prince is on the cover of the National Enquirer reported piece that intimates that his overdose was perhaps a suicide. Prince has not this, this, the mainstream media will not touch this Prince had AIDS. Prince had AIDS. He had HIV. He became as your hope as witness at some point in his life. He refused all medical treatment.

His HIV became AIDS. The Daily Mail in a very lengthy report picking up on the National Enquirer's exclusive. This was published April 27th, 2016 in the mail. The headline Prince quote, "was diagnosed with AIDS six months before he died and refused treatment because he believed God would heal him." According to the Enquirer, he was diagnosed with HIV back in the 1990s. And this too, you know, there's so much still mystery surrounding Prince's death, but tell me

“Rob your thoughts as to why in this day and age, this remains a secret that it would be more”

acceptable to the estate, to the fans, to the bottom line that Prince was a drug addict rather than

This estate now exists for one reason. They would tell you it's his legacy. It's a lot.

Yes, it's a make money. And to keep that legacy as pure as possible, as focused on the music as possible, is the strategy not to protect this dead man or his family. It's to protect the money. And so this is what this is all about. If they thought for one minute, they could make more money revealing all Prince's secrets. They would do so. They don't believe that is the case. They've milked this catalogue for pretty much everything. It's worth all the unreleased

tracks at this point, which we didn't really want. Let's be honest, if you've got a track in the trunk, it's because it wasn't good enough to make the album. So why is it good enough now? I don't want the be sides. I don't want the five tracks that were cut from purple rain. I want the

great songs. I've got the great songs. And so they always now try to make more and more money

and the way that they do that is by just really talking about the music and the music's how they hold us hostage. You cannot produce a Prince documentary movie TV special without the music. Why would anybody watch that? Why would anybody listen to that? You can't get the rights to the music unless you agree to what message you are telling. So you and I could make an amazing Prince documentary until the truth, but we couldn't include the music. Without the Prince songs,

that documentary is chance of making any money even if it was explosive. It's very, very narrow. Let me just quickly add to the National Enquire, the last person that the Enquire reported was HIV positive, was Charlie Sheen, and they got that right. And that rumor had been swirling around.

“It was a real open secret. And it would bring up enough. And that's the only outlet”

that was brave and brave enough to do it. They did that on the cover. And then the next day, he ran to the today show to confirm their reporting to try and undercut it. But for me, when the Enquire essays are the legal team they have down there, I go to them all the time. When I was with Jessica Simpson, they broke a story that she was dating John Mayer. She was. Jessica and I couldn't figure out how they got it. They got the story. My experience with

celebrities when I worked with them is if I wanted to know what was going on. I didn't check people magazine. I certainly didn't check glamour all the way. The Enquire. They did it. And you know, to one other point before we move on from Prince, the idea, if this is just one secret in the vault. I wonder, I truly wonder, do you remember he and his backup singer, Maite, or dancer? If I'm saying, or name right say, they married and they had a child, a baby. That baby died not long after

“it's birth within days. I believe was at home with them in Paisley Park. And I wonder if one”

of these secrets is that Prince, because he was such a fervent Jehovah's Witness, did not allow that baby, the medical treatment he would have needed because how often do you hear Rob? Of a wealthy celebrity's infant dying. No, you don't. You don't. We've seen this around Scientology. We've seen this land. There's really bizarre some people would say cults. Celebrities are so ugly and so toxic and very few people ever get the celebrity that Prince has. We're talking

Michael Jackson, Madonna, the Beatles. There's not more than a handful. And so if celebrity can crush reality stars, can you imagine what real fame does? They live in a bubble. They become victims of their own hide. They start to think of themselves as immortal. And so Prince had a really, really messed up life. A life that must have had many, many secrets there. Yeah, I have fully controlled our agents and managers and publicists and now that business has gone to,

the music businesses in disarray, when Prince was in the music business, hundreds of millions of dollars were being made by Prince for Prince for the people around Prince. Now the record business is gone and so now may be finally people will come forward and tell the truth. The truth

always gets out more and it might take a decade. It might even take longer. But the truth always

just get out. And I fear that we're just scratching the surface with Prince. I think we are too

“and I think it's very important that the truth comes out because we're healthier, culture,”

for knowing exactly the cost of fame. And right here, I have to say, I don't feel sorry for Prince at all. It sounds as if he was responsible through negligence or his religious fervor for his own

You know, in that year 1984, those of us who were young and lived through it in American

culture, there was nothing like it. It was Madonna's like a virgin. It was Princess Purple Rain. It was Springsteen's born in the USA and it was Michael Jackson's Thriller. Yeah. I mean, it was incredible. It brings us to our next story. Michael Jackson, this film has shattered box office records. It is the highest grossing musical biopic of all time. It's Smash's 2015 straight out of Compton, which grows 60 million and it's opening weekend domestically. This thing

has grossed almost 100 million domestically, which means we are getting part two Rob. And everybody involved in this whole whitewash is like, well, you know, yeah, obviously part two will be a lot more difficult. Tell me, tell me how they're going to try to frame doing a part two minus multiple accusations of sexually abusing minor boys. Tell me. It's very difficult, but as we said a bit

ago, we always get to the truth on the show. It's about the money. You don't make a movie that

makes almost a hundred million dollars and that movie then doesn't end. That all was going to be looking for sequels. They're always going to look at ways to do it. Now, I did speak to some of my medical sources this morning and they said this number actually shocked them. They didn't think it would be this big. The press was awful. The reviews have been horrific. He comes with a lot of baggage. The fact that this many people turned up because they love the music and they want to dance

that what this movie is. It is not the truth. So if they didn't tell the truth in part one, don't expect them to suddenly tell the truth in part two. And somebody a filmmaker, a producer, said to me today and it stopped to mean my my tracks. He said the public doesn't want the truth. It's not a documentary. It's a feature film. It doesn't want the truth. I was the executive editor of OK magazine for several years and what I learnt very quickly is that the news didn't sell.

I had to confirm what you believe. I could never do a mean story on Jennifer Aniston because the

public loved her. I could never do a nice story on Paris, Hilton in the world of celebrity. You

“have to confirm what people believe. That's why you very rarely add somebody on a cover. It's not”

because we're about high moral standing. It doesn't sell. If you don't come out, the fans won't believe me telling you them that you are gay. And so I might my journalist instinct here. My reporter instinct here is I can't wait for part two and the truth to come out. There will be a part two, but it will be as white-washed as part one. It will be a week of his life. It will be a week of the granite. You know what it'll be Rob? I can tell you right now. It'll be how Michael survived that trial

in one. That's what it's going to be. That's what it's going to be. This bullshit. And to your point, you know, I don't think these moviegoers, especially the ones who are flocking to Michael, are the kinds who like read critics and what they think. And by the way, I've been following the New York Times coverage, which has been like, hey, it's glowing. It's a great film. You know, it's all about influencers and social media and outlets like entertainment tonight in the

today show where they interview the stars of the movie. And it's all very shumming. It's actually

“all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For example, they're actors. That's how they pulled it off.”

I don't give a shit about that. Let's talk real talk. Right. They have a story that a little tag on. If you allow me that this week, the devil web product is opening on Thursday. The critics haven't seen it. That's how bad it is. All they've done is invite influencers. And it's a really brilliant strategy. I was having my book party on Monday. You were there. But across town, how dare they? The devil was prior to the cheeky devils. We're having there from here. It's okay. There's

enough room for both of us. They didn't invite press. They invited influencers. And they have flooded our social media with just gorgeous pictures, with pictures of people in gorgeous gowns. And so when the critics actually are allowed to write about this, so the it's embargo is listed lifted on Wednesday. It's too late. We've already bought our tickets. So now these movie

“companies have got really smart. They can sell the illusion. And that's what people are listening to.”

It's a good and a bad thing. I'm thrilled that we've been able to break through with our shows without the support of the today show and people like that. But the downside of that, too, is that we can be easily manipulated by paid influencers. And there's so much noise out there. There's going to be interesting to see. I think the product reviews are going to be horrific. But so with the jackson reviews, and look at it, the biggest movie, the biggest biopic movie of all time out. They

will do a sequel. It will all be lies. Yeah. Yeah. And I do think, I do think to your point about the product thing, I also think that audience isn't necessarily the kind that reads critics.

time and like buy the popcorn bucket that like has the devil horns or whatever. And by the way,

that's the province of the nerve. Just saying, okay, let's move on to Megan and Harry on the cover of us weekly this week. What's next? I can only guess, star magazine, Harry, and Megan most explosive fight. That's the cover. That's the cover you want to read. That is the better cover. That's the cover. That's the cover. That's the cover. You know, us has gone really soft, really, really soft. It's not working for them. Now, Harry and Megan are plotting a royal

style africotore without the palace. And again, this is like, you know, Harry just dropped in unannounced in Ukraine last week, calling for an end to this war and calling for Vladimir Putin to put down his weapons, like who's listening to this mental midget, this fucking emotional rap.

“Good question. I think there's a question that I will jump in. It is incredible. I was hitting the”

phones, particularly because the king is in America. And so I was hitting the phones. And I was like, how does the palace feel about all this? The timing is so rough. The Ukraine trip. Did he have to do that on the eve of his father coming here to America? And they said, yes, he did. And what they've learned in Australia, like this or not, I don't like it, but there's truth to this. They don't need the royal family to pretend to be royals. Harry and Megan can go to any hospital and they

will be treated very, very well. They can go to any charity and most of them will open them with open arms, particularly internationally. Maybe not in Britain or maybe not here. But as these two turn up in Africa, they can pretend to be royals for three days and then make a turn in money doing conferences. And that's the business model. They're going to use the palace's upset about it. This is what the queen specifically did not want. She didn't want part-time

royals, half in, half out, but the queen did not realize a neither did Harry and Megan in the moment.

They don't need the queen's approval to do this. He's Harry. And he will always be Princess

“Diana's son. And as much as that bites me, the only way that this will stop is when people”

stop buying tickets and stops showing up. But they do not need the authority of the crown to do this Princess Diana was kicked out of that family. She lost her royal title. She went on to be the people's princess. That's what Harry's trying to be. I know there's a lot of differences between Diana and Harry. I don't think he's going to pull it off in the way that she did. But they are planning now to roll out this Australian model that the queen specifically did not

want, which is the part-time royals. And they're going to come for three or four days, do some charity work and then sell us a pot of jam. Oh, you know Rob, I think the difference is first of all I guess Diana, when she divorced, she lost her HRH. Diana for all of her difficulty with the British royal family was a monarchist. She was deeply invested in the future of the monarchy because her

son was going to ascend to the throne. That's it. You never disrespected the queen in this way.

“And I think there's a difference between Harry before Meghan and Harry after. Now that the queen”

is no longer with us, can they do whatever they want? Clearly, because Charles is totally an effectual, I think it's going to be completely different playing field when William ascends. The Harry before Meghan would have abided by the late Queen's wishes. The Harry of post-Megan with Meghan has adopted her. I don't give a fuck attitude and it's distinctly non royal. That's it. That's it. That's the difference. Diana threw everything she went through in that

family. She remained a monarchist and it was because her son was going to be the king and she didn't want to burn it down. Harry wants to burn down this family. He hates this family. He says stuff, he provokes them and it's sort of got to the point where it feels cruel to watch now. Even people that might have supported Harry and Meghan in the beginning and let me tell you that royal family has a lot of problems and a lot of history that is not pretty. However, only Harry and Meghan

could make us root for these rich old fools sitting on a throne. He's made me more of a royalist. It's just so cruel what they've done and I don't get what it's going to stop. But I do think the more they do it, the less effective it will be. Australia was the highlight. If they do this five or six times, it's going to be like American Idol. By the time I get to the six or seventh, I don't care as much. So I think it's diminishing returns. It's probably the right

right expression or at least maybe I hope it is. But they're not stopping. They are not stopping. Before we move on to our next story, I would just like to put out a public plea because we have been trying to find the local heroin in Australia who was sunbathing and refused to move

email us at the nerve. We're dying now. Have you on? Okay. Now, another, another two quick stories.

One more in the pop world and then we're going to move over to Timothy Shyamalam and Ding Dong. You have an exclusive whispers grow of an usher and diddy really after Sean Combs completes his prison sentence or his cut loose early. Rob, who would back this? Would it, would a live

“nation back this? Would it be a rock nation, Jay-Z? I think he can't go near this. Who would bank”

roll a tour like this? It is very complicated and it is good question. AEG and live nation are a monopoly of concept promoters. There's only two here in the states. There's other smaller ones, but you've got to get one of those. Live nation are selling tickets to Kanye West in LA,

like really live nation are the ones. And so the follow the money if diddy and usher can sell

out the garden and make people a lot of money, they will do it. They will do it. The garden is for rent. If you've got enough money to rent the garden, you can get it. You can't get your horse for rent. If you've got $80,000, you can rent your Carnegie Hall. I'm sure there are some hopeful, hopefully there are some guidelines and some restrictions, but I bet they're not that strict.

“And they would argue diddy has, I can hear them now. He's paid his time. He's done his service.”

Now he's out. Let us move on. He's a check for $80,000. And they're going to do it. Usher is a really complicated character because he owes a lot of his career to do it in the same way that just in Beaver owes his career to usher. And so diddy mentored usher. We can argue in some horrific ways, but usher really, really still looks up to diddy. It's amazing isn't it? Because it's hard to break those chains. Even when you know they are toxic. I'm given usher the benefit of the

deity, but he should know better. But I'm told from family members, they have really optimistic. They don't think diddy's going to be in jail for much longer. They think he's going to come out. And what somebody told me who works closely with Diddy and it was chilling and there's truth

to this, Diddy now has what he never had before, which is street credibility. The black community,

the unity, always thought Diddy was a pussy. They thought he was a metal class kid. He was writing on the back of Bea Smalls, the far more talented and the guy with real street cred, like a really

“hardcore drug dealer. That's what that is. This has given Diddy. He has not been to jail. He's”

been to prison. He's one of us. He beat the system. And I think that is a very powerful message that Diddy will manipulate and make a lot of money from and shame on us. For jumping potentially on these hotels. But anybody that knows Diddy, I worked with him 20 years ago. He doesn't go away. He's not going to come out of jail and say, "You know, I've got a lot of money. I'm just going to retire. You're done with me. No, that isn't how he thinks. He wants to come back. He wants

to be bigger than ever. He'll have an album about being in jail. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not writing it. Now, you know, his kids, his kids have a really, really interesting story here because while he's in jail, they're living the highlight. They've all moved into his multimillion dollar mansion and they've got nobody telling them, telling them what to do. I had this story that Britney Spears, his kids have moved into her mansion. They love the Britney's in rehab

because it gets them the kids of the castle with literally no nobody in charge. And so Diddy, when he gets out, hopefully it's later than sooner, but I don't totally believe that. He will have music. He will have concerts. He will make movies. He's not going away." And you know, what I also bet, Rob, that there is no more art and student of how the Michael Jackson movie was sold and packaged to the American people and the blockbuster success it's become. Then Sean Holmes, he's going to be

looking at this playbook for his own redemption tour and when he comes back to the garden, it's going to be packaged as like a night of redemption and rebirth. Trust me, our last story. Timothy, Shama Lama Ding Dong, who I've been reading has been advised to just like go away for a while, so it's a way. We will be seeing Timothy on our very, our, our, our on our incipient live stream. He will be there in our spirit. And Fiji, the U.S. son is reporting that

Kylie Jenner's housekeeper. So his girlfriend, Kylie Jenner's housekeeper is suing Kylie and her company because she says she was forced to clean Timothy's mansion without being properly paid.

the former housekeepers named Angelica Vasquez. She also says she was belittled over her race, religion, and immigration status, interesting by fellow domestic staffers. But the real story here is that Kylie apparently paid or her company, apparently paid for this employees gas. And that's about it. And she was told to go over and clean Timothy's mansion for nothing. Oh, the grub.

There's so gross, first of all, Jessica Finn, who was at the party on Monday, a friend of mine,

a great reporter has been in this business forever, one of the best. She's at the son now.

“I believe every word that she ever prints. And so this story, it's wild, isn't it? You know,”

they all brag and they show off at how rich they are. If I see one more picture of her flaunting her wealth and then not paying the staff, it just feels so wrong. They such a bad luck. They have the money. They can pay it. They just, I'm not asking them to overpay, but just be decent people here. They're not. They really want so much for so, so little. And, you know, they wouldn't work for nothing. The Kardashians have really expensive when you want to pay them for an hour of work.

And so it makes me angry and it also to really confirms that Timothy's one of them because he could say no.

If I was like in round bad company, and I am a lot because of what I do for a living. I know some real stinkers, but I'm not a stinker, and I'm with them. I let them be who they are. I probably should, should it interject more, but I don't know. I let you be who you are, but that doesn't make

“me one of you. And Timothy could have said no to this. If you said to me, we're going to send someone”

to clean your apartment, Rob, I'd love it. But then if you're like, but we're really going to get them. We're going to do it for free. We're going to cat. I don't want that. Timothy paints himself as this really socially liberal kindhearted humanitarian that grew up here in New York and just look, and it's all alive. He's dating a Kardashian. And this is who he is. And the fact that he allowed, he was okay with somebody coming to clean, he has a screw up his toilet, who didn't get paid.

Shame on you. And if he's listening, send them a check, Timothy. Send them the money.

And over pay, first of all, why does any of his own household staff? Number one. Number two,

if he's going to accept someone cleaning his house, you know, make sure that they get paid. Being a housekeeper is among the most back, breaking work you can do. Talk about an honest

“way to make a living. And she's a billionaire. Are you fucking kidding me? She's about to show up”

at the mech. I hope those two show up. Oh my god. I hope those two show up. And you know the other thing, Rob, you're so right about like the company you keep in what it says about you. There are times when professionally, I have to be at a dinner at a restaurant. Let's say. And someone at my table will be awful to the weight staff. And I hate to report that this has happened more than once. And I, all I ever try to do is make contact with eye contact with whoever

the waiter or waitress is to just say, like, I do not, like, I don't co-sign this. This is awful. I overtip. I want to crawl under the table. I am so mortified. And it's doubling mortifying because it's a person who thinks they're in a position of power. And that's someone who's there to serve them. And they can treat them however they want. And that's exactly what the story is. It's a class story. It's a class story. The only option that I give us here is that, you know, in the

line of work that we do, we meet some very difficult people. I don't date them. He's not, he's not in business with Kylie Jenner. He's in bed with her. They are lovers of all the people in the world to date. You picked her and she picked you. That's really telling. That is so telling. Timothy Fooled us, maybe not you, Maureen, but a lot of people, including me, for a really long time. And then it's like the story we began with. The truth comes out slowly. Yes, he's no high level artist.

Okay. He's a wannabe rapper who got in with the Kardashians and thought his top level shit. And his entitlement was getting an Oscar this year and the nerf was here to say, we don't think so. So, sir, not on our watch, Rob, we love you. We love you. Congrats again. It's started with a whisper. So, because of you, I got booked on the Mac and Kelly shows because of you. She saw me on your show. She's so great and I just watched something on TikTok which she posted about how smart you are

and how you do it and love. Did you see this? It was a beautiful. It was beautiful and I agree with everyone. She said you've been great and thank you again for all the book help. I appreciate it. Well, thank you for telling me that and thank you for all of your kind words. We are rooting you on and we cannot

Yeah. That's it. Coming up, trouble maker feedback. We are back in a minute.

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We are back and it is time for the best part of any nerve your feedback. We got a ton on our piece

on Euphoria and Sam Levinson who has fourth shall be known as the pornographer he is and what he's doing to Sydney Swiny over and other young actresses. One troublemaker said to me something so smart and I was so, I was almost a little angry with myself for missing it. One of you guys said in email, do you notice Maureen that the only female cast member that Sam Levinson won't degrade by which I mean turned into an only fan's

sad case or an idiot who's been brain damaged by drugs or a drug mule like Zendaya is mod

Apatau, daughter of Judd Apatau and once you see it you can't unsee it. We also got a lot of response

to our mini this weekend. Our arrested development mini. If you haven't watched it I would encourage you to go over to YouTube and watch it. We bundle Drew Barrymore, Lena D and Monica Lewinsky all together because they've all been cross pollinating and all of them are very sick and they're very stuck.

“Just my opinion, I don't think their value adds to the culture. In fact, I think they're negatives.”

I think they're negatives. Here we go. Hi, Maureen. I am so glad you highlighted the absolute filth that Sam Levinson has injected into the culture when Euphoria premiered in 2019. Again, it's been like the HBO should have just let this die. They really should have just let it die. I was the only one of my friends who refused to watch it and listen, that takes guts. I'm sure you were under a lot of peer pressure to just get with the program as it were.

Trouble-maker Grace goes on to say, "My youngest sister was 16 at the time." The same age, the girls in the show were supposed to be and I could not stomach the depraved scenarios, Zendaya, Sidney Sweeney and the rest of the female cast. Again, save, mod appatau. We're supposed to be finding themselves in as sophomores in high school. Yes, they are still children. I knew the show was pure trash and Levinson was a pervert. Again, just our opinion back then.

And I am relieved that people seem to be coming to that conclusion now. Dear Marine, let's see. Okay. I hate to start your Tuesday on a syntactical crisis. Please do. That's something I can roll around in all day long. But can we please talk about words used and abused by the culture? Words that are victims really and did nothing but merely exist in the English language. But thanks to vapid and poorly read celebrities are now left to wander aimlessly

down the corridors of cliche. I feel like we try to do this just as they come at us. But I love, this is again, this is Lisa, our troublemaker from Paris. I love the idea of having this as a dedicated thing. On the show, Lisa says, you have mentioned your rightful disdain for reclaiming

wood shiver. Lived experience, stump grinder, burn pile. Are you alive? You're having an experience.

I'll also add human experience to this one. Unless animal start hosting TV shows, hey, don't tell Teddy. Don't give that guy any ideas. He's already got something planned for the Met Gala that I've been backed into a corner. Met Gala live stream. He's really believing his own hype. I'll also throw in my truth, of course, it's a given as well as narrative and story telling, which has been stolen from us writers and overused for this I blame Taylor Swift. I agree. There's

also my journey journey. Everything's a journey. I'm telling you, if you are not geographically moving yourself from point A to point B, you are not on a journey. I also know a lot of people like

“this one, but I'm not a fan of low-key. I kind of agree with you there, Lisa, who signs off as ever”

as author, bomb vivant, dork, and powers reminding us of our beloved Armando. We haven't heard from you in a little bit Armando. What's up? What are you doing? She's just an email. Let us know what you're up to. Maureen Sam Levenson is a huge loser indeed. He is. But Sidney Sweeney is not far behind him. You know, many of you wrote in with this question and I actually don't have a good answer for it.

And the answer is, why has she, along with the other actresses, given up on all dignity in the

name of fame, why do they fall for it? It's very disturbing. You know, I finally, last week, got a chance to watch the house made. And I have some thoughts on it. They're not, I didn't love it. And I have some problems with it. I really do. But among them, it's just like,

“anybody who's casting Sidney Sweeney now, they're just writing in sex scenes where she can be”

topless or like scenes where she's got it just like where, like, you know, and it's really depressing. It reminds me of like jiggle culture in the '70s. And speaking of like, that our earlier troublemaker who was like, I was the only one in my friend group who would not watch you for you. When I was a kid, my mother would not allow me to watch Charlie's Angels. She did not believe that show was about female empowerment. She thought it was just like jiggle porn. And she was right.

She was right. It didn't help me a lot on the playground, but later in life, it did help me. Now, this troublemaker, Lisa in West Virginia, says, I am in my fifties. And as a young girl, I grew up with a dad addicted to porn. I know of at least one person who also grew up that way, a woman. And it does real lasting damage, like lasting, calculable damage. This troublemaker writes he was sophisticated, loved art, music, and fashion. He worked hard for our

family. The porn addiction started with acceptable playboy penthouse material, but turned darker through the years with the dawn of cable and internet. It destroyed our family. And I am convinced

“it's a dark spiritual force. And you know none other than Chris Rock. On, I think it's his”

tambourine stand up special. Talks quite candidly about his addiction to porn, being a very heavy contributing factor in the breakup of his marriage to the mother of his two girls. This is a guy who used to say one of his funniest punchlines was that as a father of two girls, his only job, only job, and I'm quoting was keeping his daughters off the poll. And he wound up addicted to porn. And it didn't end well for Chris. Why otherwise really like, I otherwise really like Chris Rock.

Dear morine, happy belated one year anniversary to you and the amazing team at the nerve. Thank you.

Now this email from trouble maker D, I will keep your name anonymous, this hit you. I mentioned briefly a man denox in the many nerve on arrested development. When I was talking about Monica Lewinsky and how you would think surviving a trauma such as that, where something is kind of comes upon you and the media, like global media attention comes upon you as a very young woman. Would do a number on you and that you having been through that would retreat and go on and live

your life. But like Monica, Amanda loves being famous. It really doesn't matter the delivery system. She really loves it. So Monica, 30 years later, is still banging on about the Clinton Lewinsky scandal and what she went through. Frankly, I'm bored of it and I don't find that Monica's conversations

trouble maker agrees. And this is a very smart sensitive take, which I think too many of us in

America don't think about enough because Meredith Kercher, the murder victim, Amanda was acquitted. She was found out guilty even though she spent time in prison. But Meredith was a British girl. Her family lives in Britain and so we don't get their side of the story or representatives saying what they really think about Amanda, who's now doing stand-up comedy. Okay? I can think of no one I'd rather see try to make me laugh.

This trouble maker, D, writes Meredith's family, has maintained a dignified silence about their daughter and sister's death. But through their representatives, have expressed

distress and frustration at Amanda Knox's continued initiatives to generate fame and money

“on the back of this tragedy and never forget Amanda Knox told Italian police that they should be”

looking at the black bartender at the place they frequented who didn't do it. Amanda, this trouble maker, writes also made several attempts to contact Meredith's family against their wishes. I understand that Amanda may want to tell her story, but the constant stream of books, podcasts, and public appearances are the sign of somebody who enjoys the spotlight a bit too much and is basking in her notoriety just to your opinion, not just yours, friend,

mine as well. Hi, Maureen. I have written a couple of times before, but no response, so I am not sure if these messages make it to you. We do have the champagne problem of getting many, many emails from trouble makers and feedback and DMs and comments and stuff. Sometimes we just the volume of it,

“it's hard to get to them all, but we value every single one and I do make it my, it is top of my”

priority list whenever I've got extra time when I'm not just writing the show with Marlena and the other producers here to go in to the emails, so please trouble maker know your feedback is value. Now this trouble maker says she has a downside of finding herself in the nerve universe is that before the nerve, she says I was in the state of ignorance as bliss when it comes to a lot of these celebrities and their misdeeds and now with the nerve, you can't unsee it.

I'm curious as to what you think are the best ways for people like me to help counteract the nonsense that legacy media props up. Hey, you know, I would just say spread the word about the nerve. Shoot a couple of videos or one that really strikes you to a friend or you know, if you've

“got a friend who really loves like ashtonculture, send them our piece on ashtonculture, you know,”

it's exciting conversation at the very least, it's exciting conversation. Now this trouble maker is many suggestions, but among this, among them, this one, I really love and in part because trouble maker L, you are not alone. Why don't you talk about Taylor Swift more? We did do a mini, a rare, a last summer we did a mini in which we read her father Scott Swift's like email for the ages about how hard it was trying to make his daughter famous. I mean, they were grinding it out

at that Christmas tree farm and Scott was grinding it out with his financial clients, you know, who would come in to see how their 401k was doing and what kind of investments they should be making and he would be like, yeah, I'll tell you if you take my daughter CD and spread the word to like 10 people. What do I mean? Anyway, this trouble maker says the Taylor is by all accounts a terrible person. This trouble maker says I know a few people in the business. Fakeest of the fake,

and she is of course the most influential. And again, Taylor Swift's BFF, who in text messages released and discovery during this lawsuit that's coming up, got your popcorn and your favorite cocktail ready or your favorite mock tail. I should hope so. You know, it was like, we're going to destroy this Joker. Some in substance. I'm not saying Taylor was active in it. I'm not, but, you know, somebody else wrote another trouble maker wrote something and I thought this was

really interesting that, you know, as we've been discussing these tightens of pop music and pop culture, like in 1984, Madonna, Prince Michael Jackson, you know, they did generate controversy. They were doing it on purpose and they would come under a lot of criticism, you know,

Tipper Gore, who went on to become the second lady of the United States. She founded the

censor music, you know, because like Prince was the devil. Metallica was the devil. You know,

they were doing the devil's work, which was very exciting to those of us in suburbia. Like, you couldn't make me buy a record faster than telling me that. But, you know, they were, they came in for a lot of cultural criticism, which makes everything much more interesting. And both of you guys have landed on something that nobody really has located before, which is that Taylor Swift has not, and that the mainstream media, it seems, is afraid of

afraid to criticize her in any way as our lesions of celebrities who just want to be known as

“Taylor's friends. And you know what, I love this. I love this idea. And I think it's the Blake”

Justin trial gets underway. Well, we'll have some room to talk about it. Email me. Anybody who's got stories about Taylor issues with Taylor problems with Taylor. Email me, please let me know. Trouble maker Lisa frequent writer. Oh my god. Between friends. This was I believe originally an HBO movie with Elizabeth Taylor and Carol Burnett. I remember this. I remember this movie. Because nobody could believe the pairing of Carol Burnett, who was America's premier female

comic and Elizabeth Taylor. And it was actually so good. And, you know, this trouble maker says

in all of my 62 young years, I've never seen it until today, unlikely pair. But so raw and so

good. I agree between friends. It's going on the reckless. And our final email from a mo bro

“representing real deal. We have a photo that he sent to prove his virility.”

Greetings, Maureen. I hope this message finds you Marlena and Teddy in good health. It does indeed trouble as well. It's coming along. This guy is so strong. I mean, it is a wrestling session to get him in a harness, which he needs because he's so little that, you know, like you can't put a car on them. It'll choke their little tracheas four years. Tom writes, I complained about our

language and culture, both being degraded in real time, right before our eyes. We all know

Freda Stair and Jalo are not equal, twirking isn't dancing. And news isn't dating. Please keep fighting the evil league of Eagle fan in Florida, Tom, who attaches a shirtless photo of himself lifting weights and says, P.S. Yes, masculine men do watch your show. We love you. We love you. Keep your feedback coming. Email me at [email protected] or DM me on Instagram at morine Callin'handwriter or at the nerve show. If you are looking to enter our contest to win one of

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you are ready to ditch corporate chemicals, go to vanman.shop/moreen and use code morine for 15% off your first order. That is morine for 15% off your first order Van Man. Real ingredients, no exceptions. We are back. I have been dying to talk to you guys about this particular story which I mean the news cycle is enough to give you whip lash. This thing has landed though. This thing has has sort of escaped the confines of like the New York Times and New York media and it's generating real

outrage and I love it because it should. Last week the New York Times did a podcast video as well so we've got it all here and it was basically under the heading of you know the rich don't play by the rules so why should I? And guess who's doing this roundtable? A bunch of rich elitist assholes. A New Yorker writer named Gia Tolentino this woman is a media pet. She published a book of essays a few years ago called Trickmeer. This is how you know someone's a media pet. The amount of media

coverage they get is directly inverse to the way anything they produce lands in the culture. Nobody cared about her book of essays. She was all over the New Yorker and El Magazine and the

“Wall Street Journal and in all the right, you know social media. You know what I mean?”

Anyway, so Gia Tolentino is among these people another, Hassan Piker if you don't know him. He's sort of this like incendiary progressive guy and he's also a nepo, his uncle runs a media outlet, owns a media outlet of his own and then the third person, the third offender in this podcast

is New York Times opinion writer Nadia Spiegelman. You've probably never heard of her but

you may know her father Arts Beagleman who is a cartoonist and a graphic novelist. His novel, his graphic novel Mouse which I read in my early early 20s and changed me forever, changed me forever. It's an allegory for the Holocaust but with animals. It's not like Orwell's animal farm. It's if you've never read it, I highly recommend you read it. You give it to any young person or child who's old enough. We'll change you forever. Her mother Nadia's mother has been the

art director of the New Yorker since 1993. Nadia's otherwise undistinguished. I mean, I've

really never heard of her. Okay, so the title for this podcast episode again, as discussed the

rich don't play by the rules so why should I? The readout, the New York Times readout, why petty theft might be the new political protest. Okay, so let's listen to the first sound bite which is Jia talking about why it's okay for her to shoplift from Whole Foods. Here we go. What do you steal from Whole Foods? You want to go first? Yes, and I have under very specific circumstances.

“I think that stealing from a big bookstore, I'll just state my platform. It's neither very”

significant as a moral wrong nor is it significant anyway as protest or direct action. But I did steal from Whole Foods on several occasions like I've been involved in like a neighborhood mutually groups since 2021. And so every week I would go get groceries for Miss Nancy, my now family friend who lived nearby and she wanted to go to Whole Foods. She wanted food from Whole Foods. So I was like, okay, great. And so I'd be getting Miss Nancy Aller groceries and then I would finish

and I'd be like, oh my god, four lemons. I forgot four lemons. And on several occasions, I was like, I'm just going to go back grab those four lemons and get the hell out. It's sort of prison. And I think they're going to ban me. She's going to destroy you and you. But I didn't feel, I didn't feel bad about it at all. Okay, there are so many things wrong with this. First of all, look at where they're sitting. If you're listening to this, I would encourage you go to the go to the part of today's episode

well lit, expensively furnished room. They all look like they have money because they do.

“Jia lives in a $2.5 million Brooklyn Brownstone. The Daily Mail dork doctor over the weekend,”

and you know what she said, I can't believe you came to my fucking house. Believe it sister, I mean, what kind of a media person are you? You don't understand that when you generate headlines, you're going to get dorked. Like you can't be that good at what you do. You know, it's very positive over in her New York or world. Then Hassan sitting there and he's like, you know, they should throw you in jail for that. They should throw you in jail, such a big deal.

You know, Hassan, if Jia didn't look like a wealthy woman shopping in Whole Foods,

if she got caught, if she got caught, you know what she would say? Oh my god, it was just a big

misunderstanding and that she would be let go. We're going to get to the opinions of real New Yorkers

“who live in the projects about what this brain trust had to say, and their self-congratulations,”

and then she valorizes herself. You know, she kind of frames this. You know, I shop for someone named Ms. Nancy. So it's obviously an old lady. I'm part of a collective, and I go shopping for her. You know, listen, there is Instacart. Okay. There is a fresh direct overnight delivery. When my father had cancer, you know, he lived alone for part of that time, and we would make sure he got his groceries by clicking a button. We didn't steal for him. She's such an asshole. She's and they're

laughing about it. Okay. Now, Jia's going to say that, and by the way, also logistically what she's saying makes no sense because we've all been at the checkout counter and been like, oh my goodness, this item that I purchased, the packaging is damaged or oh my gosh, I forgot this other item.

“You know what? Bear with me, guys. I'm really sorry. I'm just going to run back and get it,”

because you don't go through the purchase, pack up all of your items, head towards the exit, and in these stores, you can't enter through the exit. It's one or the other, and they're like a football field apart. So it makes more sense to just go back and you know what I'm saying. She thinks the rest of us out. You're a fucking idiots. I'm a criminal cultural prosecutor. You can't get anything by me. Now, Jia's going to say it's our own fault for even shopping at Whole Foods in the

first place. Here we go. And it was part of it because of how you feel about Whole Foods as a corporation.

Yeah, it already felt like a bit of a compromise. I like at the time I was like, I had not you been to Whole Foods. I had sort of, I had a bit more sort of consumer discipline about where I was spending my money then. And I already felt like I was in the hole even by shopping there. And it's certainly felt in a utilitarian sense. I was like, this is not a big deal. The jargon, the self-serving jargon, I had more consumer discipline. You know who doesn't have

the luxury of having consumer discipline, poor people, and working class people. You know who would kill to have a whole foods open in their food desert, poor people, and working class people. But for Jia, a whole foods is a no-fly zone. Get the fuck out. Get the fuck out. These people should be mortified, mortified. I would love to send Jia up into the projects and try to do some real reporting. They don't play. Now, the New York Post sent some reporters up to the projects in New

York City and asked them what they thought of this little brain trust. The headline, "Real New Yorker's Furious" over micro-looting writer shoplifting at local Whole Foods, quote, "She is rich. I am not published April 23. We don't live on the same planet at all," said Andrea Jones, 49, who lives in Gopper's houses public housing. Because of her, they'll raise the price and I have to pay more. She is hurting me. She said of Jia. She is not helping me. Jones uses food stamps.

She called the claims out of touch saying she would likely be tossed in jail for the same crime and make no mistake. It's a crime. Andrea says, quote, "Me being black, arrested, for sure." As soon as I walk in, they'd be watching me. They're not watching her. You think such self-regarding liberals, that would be obvious to them. But no, another 65-year-old resident going back to the post-piece of the housing project called the sanctimonious five-finger discount, quote, "Bullshit!

What she's saying doesn't make sense, Mr. Bezos will just increase the prices," said the resident,

income. Jia, Hassan, Nadia, you're all fucking assholes. Mr. Carter, and I quote, "She is not doing us a favor. She's an movement of her own to justify what she's doing," Jenny Garcia, 35, a low-income single-mom of three added, quote, "This is not how you help us." Some of these rich

people don't know how to stretch a dollar, and they don't have to. They have never walked in poor

people's shoes. Couldn't agree more. Now, this is a real moral dilemma for these middle-aged, wealthy, would-be hipsters. Would you pirate music from an indie rock band? Now the rubber meets

“the road. Now we've got real stakes. Here we go. Would you pirate music from an indie band?”

Is it 2005 and I'm using limoire? Because, yeah, it's soft. I feel like every millennial has at some point. I feel like fundamentally Spotify is kind of like, "Deleterious to the musician livelihood," and I use that. But that shows, yeah. I'm pro-piracy all the way. Across the board, would you pirate a car? Yes. If you could, if one could pirate a car. It was just a classic thing back in the day with the government funded anti-piracy initiative. Would you steal a car?

Get away with it. It was as easy as you know, pirating IP. It's on piker. Thank you National Review for your comprehensive wrap-up of this asshole over the weekend. I read it avidly. He drives a $200,000 Porsche, which means he bought it new. I'm sure he would love it if someone stole that from him.

He has a $2.7 million house in Beverly Glen in California. I am sure he would love it if someone

broke in and stole his most beloved belongings. He has an estimated net worth of $8 billion. He is also a raped anire, a rape apologist, and he's joked about women getting date raped on college campuses, and shame on Nadia and Jia for sitting there and laughing with him. He is a fucking misogynistic pig. Hey, everybody, have at it. Go steal from those guys. They think it's cool. They think it's

“so cool. And now we're going to get into what I think is probably the most disgusting.”

Like these people, we're doing this because these people are writing in very agust well-regarded publications. They get deals to be talking heads on actual networks. They're doing their own podcast under the auspices of the New York Times, which is co-signing this. Make no mistake. The New York Times is co-signing this. These are the people who think they're smarter than the rest of us and they should be telling us how to live and how to think and what to do and what's

acceptable and what's morally correct. This question left my jaw on the floor and the unthinking reflexive answer. And you know what the problem with all three of these people here in this room right now, I'm going to tell you it comes down to something very elemental. They're not cool.

They're not cool. They've never been cool. They've always wanted to be cool and they think an answer like

this is cool. Here we go. What do you still from the Louvre? Yes. I would not be logistically capable of executing such a fact, but what I cheer on every new story of people that I see doing it absolutely absolutely. Yeah, I think it's cool. We got it. We got to get back to cool crimes like that, like you know, bank robberies, right, stealing, stealing, priceless artifacts, things of that nature. I feel like that's way cooler than the 7,000th new cryptocurrency

scheme that people are engaging in. You know Nadia, the only follow-up to that is why do you think that's cool? Why do you think that's cool? The antiquities and the artworks have

“housed in the Louvre belong to all of us. That's why they're in a museum.”

It's a violation of all of us when things like that are stolen or defaced or destroyed. I remember when Notre Dame was burning and I had been lucky enough to go to Notre Dame before that happened and to climb to the top and to feel the awe of the human engineering ingenious that built that, and what it feels like to be in a space that is designed to move you to move

What a privilege to be in there. And I remember texting my sister-in-law when Notre Dame was on fire

“and I said to her, I feel like I'm losing a person. These people are jokes and you know,”

they really should just be hot loose. They're ridiculous. That's it. That's it. That does it.

That does it for this edition of The Nerve at night. We will be back on Friday with a full

“nerve which we cannot wait to bring you. We're coming at someone who's making the rounds and getting”

a lot of glad handing with both effing barrels and we're going to be the only ones to do it. I can guarantee you from now till Friday. No one else is going to do it if you haven't already.

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