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We have so much to talk about, Prince Harry showed up at the NBA Finals. Excuse me, over the weekend at the winning game was shoved way back in the eighth row. Timote, Sean Alama Ding Dong, got way better seating, Rob Scott exclusive reporting on just how pissed the Duchess of Despair and endless grievance is. We've got stuff on Gwyneth, who has really waited into the shit this time.
This is not just shilling a candle that she says smells like my vagina, she's in real trouble. Her name online has, has, she, the Port Manto is now win aside. It's not good. We've got the latest on Blake Lively, turns out Rob heard Billy Bush and we heard you guys loud and clear you guys loved Billy and so did we.
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you are and dive in, Rob, welcome back. We have so much to get to today. We're going to see my friend, let's jump in, let's see much gossip that we need to talk about. Okay, Prince Harry, a light at the a game five, Nick's versus spurs, and he's shoved all the way back into the eighth row, looking disconsolate, standing next to maybe a decorated
military veteran, but it's nobody famous.
βIt's not Shamoam and Ding Dong and Kylie Jenner, so what are we doing here?β
And you've got reporting that Megan, who was not with him, by the way, very, very telling Megan was not with him, she loves a spectacle, she loves to be the center of attention. This game at the world's eyes are on this game. She wasn't there. First of all, do we know why?
We don't know why. We don't have a reason that's just there, although she doesn't really enjoy these moments. She enjoys the world of fashion, she enjoys the world of the betgala, sport and events have
never been her thing, so maybe that's it.
And also to, she probably didn't want to travel, so had it been in New York, or somewhere
Where Megan would consider Glamorous, probably more chance that her being the...
we don't have these actors in some right now.
We will. So Rob, you mean that hostage video that they took of Megan Cheerian going, the Dodgers
βOne yay yay yay, and Harry sitting in his park lounge or going, like, what's happening?β
Don't come at me, like, she's not really a sports fan, you don't say. She's not really a sports fan, she's not really a sports fan, she's not really a sports fan. Okay, so your exclusive reporting, which I died for, Megan, Markle, fuming over Prince Harry's NBA, seating, Sonob, Prince Harry, you right, may have enjoyed the NBA finals to be able, inside or say that Megan Markle was paying attention to something
far more important to her than the score, where was he sitting while Hollywood, heavy weights, timota, Shyamalama, Ding Dong, and Ben Stiller enjoyed coveted court side seats, Harry was seated eight rows back, quote, Megan notices everything when it comes to image, a source tells naughty but nice to her seating status, she is not wrong. It's not just about watching a game, it's about who sees you watching the game talk to us
Rob. Delicious, is it?
βFirst of all, every story I think I post, I think one more reason thing for this story,β
and if I get a thumbs up, then I post it, so I love thinking like this story, I literally was thinking about you as I get post. It's a really interesting story here, so get through dynamic of not only their relationship with celebrities, as you know, I've worked with a ton of celebrities before I was a columnist,
I was a publicist, and it was always the be-lister, it was always the real house life,
it was always the reality stars that cared the most about where they were sitting, the big stars, the big A-ly stars, a sort of more children about it, he's been a prince from the day he was born, so he is actually sort of kind of more relaxed about this than she is to her, this is everything, and the brand is everything, and the Sussex brand is something that she thinks about 24/7, him, not so much, more entitled, hasn't ever really
had to worry, has never really had to hustle everything has been given to him, and so to where they sit, where they eat, where they live, what they wear, what events they're invited to, it needs a lot more to megan than it does Harry, she was upset, she thought this would be a wonderful moment of Harry really participating in America, and we know he's not going to be at the World Cup because of his big pooling out with David Beckham,
so this was his moment to get on camera, to be there, to show everybody now that he is an American, he's not, yes, we should point out, he has not felt that all these citizen forms if he wants to, on to become an American, like I have, and so she was really upset about this, this is megan, it's more telling about megan than him, and it's really telling about celebrity, and she feels, she feels a drick in a way more in, and she's not wrong,
she's not wrong, you noted this in your piece about this, you know, that megan knows if William and Kate had decided they wanted to attend, they would be court side, absolutely,
you know, he, he also made a point of appearing at this crucial game, and he posted an online
video about Invictus, it was aimed at, I guess, the German cohort or, you know, part of that, while trooping the color, this is a huge victory lap for the Royals, you know, trooping the color, William and Catherine appearing with their children, the future of the monarchy looks very bright, Prince Harry is not, he, he will never be invited back to that ever, ever, ever, and so what does he do? He thinks that going to game five of the NBA finals
is a flex, does he understand the story that he's kind of telling here? Because the story of this NBA finals was a classic underdog story, right? The New York Nix, who hadn't won a championship in 53 years battling back from epic, they're down, like 30 points, and they battle back in the last minutes of a fourth quarter, is Harry supposed to be the underdog here? Yeah, he's supposed to be the victorious underdog here.
Yeah, he's getting more of the answer, he's yes, and he's mine, and Megan's mine, it's the two of them, thus the world, they see a lot of similarities in their story, and the Nix
βwhich is, is ridiculous, but that's how they would see it. It is true, they're timingβ
as well, if you plot out all the big royal events on the calendar throughout the year, there's many of them, tripping of the color is one of the biggest, if people don't know what that is, it's actually the celebration for the King or the Queen's, the monarch's birthday, and just goes back to the 1800s, when weather was a big deal, getting to London
Was a big deal, so we know the King's birthday is not until the end of the ye...
they always do this for every monarch in June, because weather in Britain can be a little
βbit dodgy, and so they wanted to have it in a, in a, in a month or a day when, when the weatherβ
was potentially nice, and so a big deal on the calendar, but I went through the calendar over the last year, and I mapped together all the bigger events, and guess who popped up on pretty much every weekend that there was a big royal event. Harry and Megan, there was an announcement, there was a post on social media, there was something that they attended, and so we were fools, maybe, maybe I was a fool to think the tripping of the
color it would would go without a response from the marcles, from, from the success it is. I was wrong, Harry, turned up at this game, it really annoys real fans too, because a lot of people who were there would have given their back tea, would have, would have would have, would have asked to fatigue it on the eighth row, would get the front, it's extraordinary, and for him to turn up, and he doesn't really care about it, and now
she's bitching and moaning about where he was sitting, it's just so disrespectful to the real fans, to the people that find this so important, Taylor Swift being there was bad enough, Harry, it's just glueless, it makes no sense. It's so true Rob, you know, Taylor Swift was making such a spectacle of herself at Game 4 in New York, and it was just insufferable, it was intolerable, it was like how much there's no amount of attention that is enough for this woman.
No, we'll get to her later, but I wanted to talk to you about this exclusive at the Daily Mail Plus, my colleague Allison Boschoff has a great story. Now, they are calling this jam again in
βa Marlene and I would like to improve upon this pun if we may humbly. I think it's more, I thinkβ
it sounds better. If it's jar, megetin, jar, megetin, Allison writes, oh my god, this is so good. I can reveal that all of Megan's jams, teas, and tins of flower sprinkles are set to go pretty simultaneously out of date at the end of next summer, okay, which means they will expire, you cannot, you will not be able to eat them, okay, they will be bad for you, they will make you sick, it's so unbrand astonishingly, this jar megetin could see Megan's lifestyle brand as ever face
losses of more than $5 million on the jams alone and it's been further revealed, and we're going
to talk about Gwyneth in a minute, that Megan had hired Winith Paltrow's brand guru, a guy, I believe this is a man named Devon Pedswater, yes, he was hired on a small consultancy fee, no doubt, they're so cheap, they're in debt, they're cheap, it's chicken or the egg, he was hired on a small consultancy fee, last summer she has talked about wanting to emulate the quote elevation of Gwyneth's scoop, but at a price point which she could have afforded herself when she was a teenager with a Saturday
job at a young store, details, they land with a thud, what do you know wrong about the future of as ever, I like to call it a sever, a sever, first of all, shout out to Alex and one of my favorite
reporters, but I grew up on what to do. Amazing, we text each other and every time I see her name,
my face lights up, she knows the scoop, she really, really does the scoop, but this story is amazing and it shows you the ego involved in mega-marchal, when you're dealing with a product that goes out of date, whether or not you're in a restaurant or you're selling food items or even cosmetic items, you order the right amount of product that you think you will sell during that period, mega-mining to this thinking she was when a Peltra, she thought she was a she thought she
was a massive, massive organization and so she way overestimated the demand for her product, now as I reported exclusively about six months ago, she paid for this, he had to pay for the products, the products of cheaper, if you would or more of them, but the actual in price is obviously more so cheaper, but the in price is massive, so they had to buy all this jam, they had to pay for this jam to be manufactured and they thought they were going to sell it and if they'd sold it,
this would be a real success story, gosh, they made a ton of jam, they sold a ton and now they're going to make another batch, that hasn't happened, anybody that starts a business, I've started small businesses, the nerves are small businesses growing pretty fast, but whether you start a
βsmall business, you have to be realistic with your budgets because if you overestimate what you thinkβ
the demand is going to be, you put out a ton of expenses that you don't need to put out, this is a perfect example of two people, probably more mega than Harry, who overestimated their celebrity, overestimated their demand and underestimated expertise, higher, great people
Listen to them, any person who has ever started a small business could have t...
start slow, step by step, don't think you're going to jump into this and be one of the
βdisruptors in the industry, you will be at some point, you're hoping to be, you may be,β
but she just jumped in, not knowing anything, and once again, in true Megan fashion, not listening to anybody, don't hire people and listen to them, hire them, listen to them, and now she's going to have a ton of job, a ton of sneaky products that she's going to have to flush down the toilet, people could not eat this product, they'll give it away, I guess, over the next few months, just to get rid of it, but they've got a garage full of jam in Montesito,
but nobody wants this going to stop smelling pretty soon. I wonder where she's storing it because Netflix sent all of that back to her, they were storing it for her, she's got to have this stuff in a refrigerator, well, I don't know, jam is like, it's perishable once you open it, I suppose, but my point is, the thing that Megan does not, she not only underestimates, but she refuses to accept is just how universally she is disliked, and this isn't just passive dislike, this is
like global antipathy, we fucking hate her, and she made herself the face of her brand with her stupid Netflix show and her podcasts and her as ever thinking that everybody would want to live as she tells us she does, and that she is the epitome of an elevated kind of elegance that is specific to her, and if only we could have a little bit of her star dust, we can't have it, but if we buy her jam, maybe we get closer to it, it's the thing that Gwyneth kind of gets, but like Gwyneth's
group has never been profitable, right? Why do you want to be like a business has never been profitable?
Right, but I was sort of did a party and I sat next to him off the streets and Martha said something so interesting, she said my towels have to be able to sell even when my name is not on them, she said the Martha's Stuart name will sell you a towel, but if it's not a very good towel, you're not going to buy another, and I thought what a brilliant thing for Martha's Stuart for anybody to understand, the product has to stand by itself. Martha makes great towels, Martha makes
great, great products, and her name makes them even better, but even when her name's not on them, when she went to jail and the business, I knew somebody who worked for Martha, and they said
βthey were definitely going to take a hit, however the product is still great, that's what Meganβ
didn't invest in. She thought she was so great that she didn't have to make great products, what would have been ideal is for her to be great and the products to be great, and then she would avenge it up with a Martha's Stuart, but she's not great, the products are not great, why would I need her to spend a dollar on this? There's nothing great about this. Agreed, like if she had come up with a kind of gem that had a completely original unique flavor profile, this is what this is the
conversation you and I would be having Robin, you know, I fucking hate Megan Markle, but that gem is so good. I didn't buy it, I won't tell anybody but you, right? I'm still listening to Michael Jackson, don't tell anybody. You're so right, that's the lesson Megan, that's the Michael Jackson is the lesson, Michael Jackson's one of those rare, you know, you may have been a pedophile, but we've already been separated from the artist because thriller is a fog and masterful
βthings. That's what she needs it. That's what she needs it. Your genius Rob, okay, let's get toβ
go in it. When is whose name has been repurposed, the Port Manto is now going aside, this I believe, you know, Gwyneth loves controversy, but I don't know if she is going to bounce
back from this as quickly as she thinks if she really will at all. First we're going to take a look
at this ad that she has done for a luxury condominium development in Israel. Okay, so this is, we're just looking at, it's basically, it's luxury porn, and it's got terrible dialogue, like I don't know who wrote this ship, but I'm surprised she even said it. She must have gotten such a fucking hefty paycheck for this. It's like my coffee needs coffee, who decided morning should be so early, you know, AI spat it out. And then she went on this podcast, well it was her group podcast, actually,
she was hosting it, group podcast, she had on trace Stevens, and for those of you who don't know and why would you, he's not a household name, he basically works in AI and defense. So I basically consider him, he's an arm-stealer, he's like an arm-stealer. So we're hosting arm-stealers on our lifestyle show, and here's Gwyneth waiting into political waters. Here we go. I'm, I'm pretty centrist, and my husband thinks I'm a Republican. But I think it's,
Which I'm not a Republican, I don't feel anything right now to be totally hon...
What do you make of this, Rob? What is she up to here?
Couple of things. Gwyneth is notorious for doing whatever you pay her to do. If you need a celebrity and you've got to turn a cash, if you throw it at Gwyneth, she will represent your brand, and she'll turn up at the party. So somebody with her credentials and the academy or what we're going to address, it's quite hard to buy them for not as much as what you think. And so Gwyneth is long had a reputation that she wants the cash. They sort of respect her for that. She also
to use it this in your intro, she likes controversy, but controversy about contrasting coupling, controversy about the quality of your towels or your bed sheets.
- That's fun. - I can't. I don't know. Let's melt it like her.
- Like a vagina. - That's fun controversy. It's silly. It's celebrity. It's gossip. When she across over into politics, it gets very tricky. Now I hit the phone. I asked a couple of my Gwyneth sources. What is going on here? And I said the Gwyneth has convinced herself, primarily because of Donald Trump's election, but also to because of Spencer Pratt in LA, that celebrity and politics are now very much intertwined. And there's some truth to that.
βI think that Spencer Pratt is a reality star that ran from there. He has not hadβ
this attention in 10, 15 years. He loves being centre of attention. And so I think Gwyneth has figured out that the next frontier is not candles that smell like vagina. It's not shocking us by relationships. It's jumping into politics. It's very dangerous there because this is something that I think you and me really tread very carefully. Until our credits, we have people that listen to this show who are liberal, who are conservative, and I love it. And I think that
Gwyneth is trying to do what we're doing without the expertise in doing it. And she's going to get a bit. What was fascinating to me is that this was all to use a phrase of Gwyneth's contrast. This was her podcast. After you tape the podcast, after we tape this episode, we decide what we want to edit. We don't edit very much at all, but we decide when to post it. So the amount of decisions that went into that process of you and me seeing it
is not one. A lot of times I make a bad decision. Sometimes I make two. I don't make three. And so step-by-step by step, there was nobody that said to Greta, be careful. You can jump into
βthis Greta if you have every right to talk about politics. If that's what you want to do.β
However, it is going to open up a floodgate. It is going to open up a conversation that she's just not equipped to have yet. Maybe she will be. But at the moment, I would be very worried if I was glad that's because this is a very different publicity stunt. This is a very different attention-seeking stunt than what she's done in the past. The thing about the ad for the luxury kind of in Israel, I think this goes beyond what side of this Iran, whether your pro-Israel, pro-Palestinian,
whatever it is, there is a heartlessness there. This takes her tone deafness to another level. It is a war zone next door. There are refugees in camps without there is no sanitation. There are no toilets. These people are starving. They are being bombarded. And by the way, that ad was shot in New York City. Not even fucking shot in Israel. She's running through central park in that house. And it is one thing to be a leadist and say things like, "I would rather smoke
crack than eat cheese that's in the camp." And it is another to do it on this level. You said something very smart that I have also heard and it is well-sourced. I think this would surprise people about Gwyneth Paltrow, who comes from money, who was married to Chris Martin, who has coal-played money, who is now married to a very successful film, a television producer, Brad Falchuk. It's never enough for her. She can never get enough money. She is as greedy and mercenary
βmore than you would think. Yeah, it feels like a cryptid isn't it? That's what this feels like.β
It's cryptid and it's tone deaf. And as you said, Gwyneth doesn't have as much money as you think.
She has not made a big movie in a very, very long time. She never got those $20 million
junior robber's paychecks. And Gwyneth had business has never made a profit. She's out there talking about it. We talk about Gwyneth as if it is a household brand and it's not. It's never ever made a profit. So Gwyneth wants the money and she'll do whatever she has to get it. And in this case, I think it's going to really back for it. It has backfired people. Look at this and it's tone deaf. Whatever your position is on this, we're not making money from it. You and me might
have an opinion about it. But I'm not making money from that opinion. She never is. You know what I
Think is also so bad for her in the long term.
thought this through. It exposes her really as someone who has no core principles. You know, she took like over a million dollars to show up at that film festival in Saudi Arabia in 2023. She did. She did. She did. It Galgato was doing this in my sense. She's made a views very clear about about Israeli. She's a Israeli. She's served. She's in the army. She's a random husband. Her opinion
very clear. And Gwyneth, by the way, is part Jewish. Her father was Jewish. Yeah. But she's never said
a word about this conflict. But this is where this is the hello she chooses to show up on. Oh, the luxury condo development. Look out. Right. Right. Okay. It's a, it's a really serious topic.
βAnd this is frivolous. Not us, what she's doing. It's frivolous. And if you want to jump intoβ
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Please support our show, tell them you're a troublemaker, and that the nerve sent you. On to Lake and Ryan. We were talking about this on the nerve a little bit last week. You have an exclusive that these two, you say, are not, not even nice. If you haven't subscribed, go subscribe. Insiders tell Rob that Piro, sorry, psycho-arsinist, psycho-arsinist Ryan, and Blake this lake, lively, are preparing a highly visible public outing on the day that Taylor Swift
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βanyone saying they're hiding it. Nobody cares what you're doing. What are they doing, Rob?β
Well, I learned about this sitting mix for you on the nerve, on ammet show. I special met show, and you and me, our faces are on the floor when she turned upon that red carpet when she turned upon the steps of the met. And it told me something. I said, "What's going on?" And the minute I left your show, I started to text people around Blake, and they said, "This is the strategy moving forward. They don't want to talk. They won't sit down and do a big interview with Oprah
Wintree. What they're going to use is their extreme good looks, the two of them are gorgeous, and they're going to tip off the top of the sunset. I think it's a cutie. I know I know what you look at him through the eyes of reality, but if I close my eyes for a minute, it's still going to be sees a cutie shot. You don't know what we know now. You don't look at those beady, dead,
βrodent eyes that are a little too close set and see some very dark. Do you like a bad boy?β
I'm still listening to Michael Jackson, but I'm still listening to Michael Jackson. So I'm not listening, but I'm so as if really close to them, really, really close to them, but they're not going to this wedding, and they're not going to look like they're hiding that day. They're not going to do that. We're going to see them stage something. It's probably going to be in a park. It might be with children. It might be in a super kitchen. They're going
to rub it in. You know what? Despite what we think for them, I'm not a petty story. I love a
Petty celebrity.
up at the new ad, or it's a charity of a person's new picture with a puppy and probably a blind
dog. It's going to be fabulous. You know what I love about this, Rob? I can enjoy this as well as infuriating as I find these two, because they have not gotten the memo yet. No. The reason the nerve exists and the way that the culture is changing. Hey, you ask holes. We all know those are stage photos. We all know that the more maniacally happy you look, the more panic then upset you actually are. So maybe just stay home and we won't even think about that. Do you
know what I'm saying? It's the reason the nerve exists just a few weeks ago. They were walking through the west village and a photographer just happened to be there and caught her pinching his bottom because they're just so in love. And then they went to get us through. I knew that just so in love, that just so in love. Did you catch the also totally spontaneous, not at all significant moment when Blake just jaddley jumped on Ryan's back and he gave her piggyback ride.
He's like neighboring under her, it's like down in the middle of the gap. I don't think I have a friend. Wait until they're ready to die. Wait until they're ready to die. I thought wait. Ryan might set something on fire. Okay, you got this great great item in the national and choir, which I read religiously because you have a column there too. I don't know when you
βsleep. Andy Cohen wants to be in with all the real deal. I mean, it's dying anyway. Why does he care?β
But when Stephen Colbert was leaving and all the late night guys got together for that podcast and and Stephen Colbert talked about how we wanted to fuck Scarlett Johansson and all that. Andy's like, why aren't I invited to this roundtable of wits? I have a late night talk show. Why are I included, and they're like, we don't want you. They don't like it. When Jimmy, when Julie Kibble came back after exiting for a few days, I don't think it's because it's just a few days. He
found all his fellow late night co-hosts and he forgot to mention Andy. He didn't forget. He didn't mention Andy and then the next day he apologized. So this is not the first time this has happened. Andy, yes, completely desperately wants to be part of this club. Vanity, fair, grading Carter did a piece on all the late night hosts many years ago, and it was a big
βlittle clue that I'm doing. They just, I think it's because that show, they looked down then,β
notice that. They think it's a silly reality show. Andy can be annoying. There's no doubt about that.
But he's one of them. He's one of them. He's always believed. Do you know what I'm asking
to include Greg on Fox News? He's a late night show host. Yeah, and he gets more ratings than all of them combined. And so Andy here. I think, yeah, it's just that exact click. It's that thing that happened at school. When you're hiring the cool crowd or you weren't, and it's just not part of that group. And the more he tries to be accepted, the meaner they are. They are mean girls. I'm not, I don't often defend Andy Cohen, but I'm gonna hear you're better off with
that demand than you are better off with that. Do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying? By the way, do you have any theories I wanted to ask you about this?
βYou know, Andy made a big deal about going public with this age-appropriate man. I think he's 42β
who Andy says he's been seeing for like the past year. And he said something akin to like, I think this is right. I was taking it slow and smart now. Many of us in the New York media world have heard tell of sex parties at Andrew Cohen's house. Okay. I'm not a, allegedly reportedly nothing wrong with it, concerning adults and all, but I wonder if Andy trying to now portray himself as a serious adult in a committed monogamous relationship is Andy trying to get ahead of
something. There's a mostly coming up in just a few weeks. Liam McSwayney, one of the real high slice of New York students, brother, and she's got the receipt. She's got the email. She was on brother when Andy was at a sloppiest when we'd see him as drunken or looking appearing to be drunk maybe even something else. We've all bumped into Andy at the boom boom room where he was there five nights away. We've all seen it back. Like it's not, it's not like he's Mary Poppins.
We've all had to. I don't think it's never seen him. Those children never see him.
Yeah. Yeah. And the oldest kids are going to need a lifetime of therapy on the cover of people magazine. Have we met? Have we met? Have we met? Have we met? Have we met? Have we met? Have we helped the heck of the baby that you're hiding back after the shoot? And so they all let me tell you this, this is such a good gossip. So when I was at OK magazine, we used to pay millions of dollars to photograph the babies. And there was one celebrity that wanted the check. We couldn't give them
the check until the issue. It's new stance because of a picture, leaks out, and million dollar
School.
you shoot the baby. This one celebrity wanted us to shoot the baby within like days of the birth
βto get the check quickly. I think the blinding this baby. Like this baby hadn't opened his eyes.β
This baby had it after birth on its tail. So it's too soon to shoot this baby. This baby. I was like, we're going to blind the baby. We can't keep shooting the baby. And the baby's eyes were like, "Twitch it like this." So these celebrities, when you see a kid
of the cover of a magazine, it's not always there for the right reasons after the money.
But the blind to Andy, this lawsuit's coming up. And my words, I got it right about Ryan, and Blake, I'm going to get it right about Andy. We're going to see Andy pushing his kids around in Australia. We're going to see that he does. They're going to be at the park with this new nice guy. Andy has had a very colorful post. And when he was enjoying that, Leah was also on the house twice, she knows this. He's got the receipt. She's got the text.
She's got the e-bows. So what she's like back to present, he's going to be so delicious.
βAnd he's going to try a counter-its by having lots of pictures of him and a happy, nice,β
sensible boyfriend and kids. But don't send him a call back. They might get the dog back. That's what he is. NBC Universal tried to get the judge to throw Leah McSpoenies to get lawsuit out. And the judge said, no, no, no, no. This can go forward. She's got it. Go forward. Guess what else we're going to brace yourself to see in your Instagram feed. Andy driving out to the Hampton's with the two
kids. Oh my god, they're driving me crazy. I'm just trying to get through the LIE. Fucking. Okay. Okay. Now, today show exclusive. You've got, and then I got to ask you about one of our guests from last week of first time or who the troublemakers died for. I did as well. You have an exclusive Rob. Today shows tabloid makeover shocks NBC insider sources telling naughty but nice that longtime staffers barely recognize the morning show that they once helped
produce the latest flashpoint came when Savannah Guthrie repeatedly pressed Jennifer Lopez about her involving our co-star. A cardboard cutout known as goldstein. Years ago your source says that would have considered a tabloid question today. It's exactly the kind of moment that today show producers are looking for a talk to me my friends. When I went out of summer today show once a month once every two weeks, I was told I went on to do
gossip. I went on to do celebrity gossip. But the rule was I couldn't say the word gossip. I had
to call it celebrity buzz buzz. So they've always done gossip. So they've always done gossip.
They just cloak it in something that makes them feel more comfortable. Now they've realized with nobody watching with nobody talking about them. Then this is what people want. We want to talk about celebrities. There's no crime. In fact, there's a new study at that the higher your intelligence, the more celebrity gossip you want. And I'll send you the story of this. I absolutely agree with you. You're noticing. It's such a gossip. It's about what it's exactly what we're doing on this show.
We're taking the image, the manufactured product being pushed at us, and we're going underneath the surface to talk about the real shit. And that's interesting. That's intelligent. It's been, Jeff Zucker was the person he shocked the today show. When he brought in an executive producer from the daytime talk shows from the Sally Jesse roughly else, from the Maury COVID, which is the ratings went through the reach. Now they're hiring staffers,
people that are working there, who used to work at the Wendy Williams show, who used to work at these, and it's going to make the show better. I'm for this. What I'm not for is the phone. He don't pretend you are high and mighty when we're all shoveling the same same product. And this product is delicious. I'm proud to hold my hand up like I'm in AA and say, I love celebrity gossip. My name is Rob Shooter, and I'm a gossip columnist. There you go. Savannah do the same because
we're in the same business. It's the same thing. I just love that over at the today show. They're like we're the today show. We have to talk about celebrity gossip with celebrities who are across from us. If you've seen that show lately, it's basically QVC. Like the third hour, it's like, here's a bunch of cheap shit from China. Click on the QR code to buy. We get the feeling, you know what I mean? I had a friend who was on the show. I said it at a celebrity
friend who was on the show, and they told me that they literally finished the interview. And then
βone of the hosts, I think it was Savannah who said, now they've got to keep the lights on,β
let's sell some towels. But they just admit it. They just don't need to look. But let us paint the lights on. Sell some towels and then do the towel segment. I'm dying. Okay, I have to ask you. I don't know if you saw Billy but I saw it. I got says he should. Billy, I didn't push get some like that. So I'm not a Billy push fan at knowing the very long time,
but he on your show was gold. I, you know, Rob, I love you both. I love you both. I never met Billy
Before.
some incredible tea and I really, because you've spent, you've done your time at Studio 1A. He said,
Al Roker is mean, mean, mean and a bully and tried to get him fired and was liking a tweet that
βcalled Billy a racist. And you know, my theory is that I think that Al is stuck being America'sβ
cutliest weatherman and the golf between his actual personality and that, like, I think he, I think he's like he's making like five to seven million year. I said to Billy the point out of green screen, say, rain's coming in, but he's full of rage. He's full of rage. What do you know? I know it's complicated, because Billy was despised the little day shirt. They really disliked him. Why? Because he wasn't white glove and not for them. Jenna Bush who's also a Bush isn't wearing Billy's naughty. He's cheap,
he's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's like screams, country fiber. Okay. He's been a teacher in the United States. He's like loving all of the likes of fucking hell. That just so basically snuffes over there. They're just so old. But Billy Bush
βwas not fancy. They're like, "Well, you guys really guys." That's it. I mean, Billy, but he's Billy,β
but he's a wild type of guy. He might have survived the controversy if he had some friends at the shirt. When that went down and had somebody stood up for him and said, "You know what? Let's rally behind Billy." I found that in my job, so when I'd messed up, the jobs that I survived, the jobs that I keep is when the staff has my back and I'm lucky enough that that's happened to me. I'm grateful enough that people had had my death. Billy was arrogant. That's not make some certain wishes. He's
still the same Billy. He's flashy and just rude and a little obnoxious. And he could probably
root for you allegedly. He's that type of guy and they just never really liked whether they're
there. So from day one, it was just a bad fit. It was just a bad fit. Elle really just liked Billy Bush.
βBilly Bush really just liked Elle and it was just delicious to watch the be so rude to eachβ
other every day on TV. I didn't think though and maybe that this is why I like your show so much. We don't all always have to agree. That's actually the best TV. It's really great where we do. I like the view better when it wasn't so one-sided. When they fought, when Rosie was fighting everybody. And so Billy to me, made the today show exciting and fun. He's a paving the ass. I never want to drink with him, but I will watch him on TV and you'll show
on repeat. It was amazing. Amazing interview. And I love to have him back. That's not Billy
nice. Can really go to find his next chapter. How the truth? For 20 years, he was part of the legacy media who just told lies. I would call Billy when I was working with Jay Lowe and she was breaking up with Ben the first time and I've liked Billy don't she be reporting this and he wouldn't. And he should tell those stories, tell those stories of having to play along, having to get access, having to kiss at last, having to not tell the truth, having really to pull the wall over
America's eyes. He's got those stories. I hope he tells them. I just started listening to his podcast to. And once again, I listen to Michael Jackson and I don't have to be a personal fan of yours. Billy Bush is not Michael Jackson, but I don't have to be a part of something. I don't have to be personally to appreciate to appreciate the work. And Billy's in the work. He's got the stories. He's being there. He's a veteran. He's a veteran. He's got the stories. Okay. Now our final item. I love
this exclusive. You've got it's sort of a dual exclusive. Theresa, Judy, Jay of the Real Housewives of New Jersey, her daughter Melania, who is part of a bravo show called NextGen. I haven't watched a frame of it. It was arrested last month on allegations of domestic assault and causing bodily injury following an incident in Montville Township, New Jersey. The victim was allegedly inside the home away from production. None of it happened in front of the cameras. I'm sure she's
mic'd all at all times when they're shooting. Tell us what you know about the victim, the circumstances was this like a romantic partner was this of some sort of just a friend, a dispute with a friend. And or you've also got some theorizing that perhaps Theresa was really the villain in that marriage to Joe, Judy, Jay. They both went to prison on multiple counts of like fraud and tax evasion. Yeah, Theresa has remarried this very controversial chapters on the show called Louis Louis Louis.
Yeah, he's got a lot of baggage there.
and being really clear in this reporting, I don't have it. I've just got speculation here,
βbut it's enough that I can report on it, is that it's him. So when you when you're charged withβ
domestic abuse, I checked very carefully. I called my police sources my law enforcement sources. It has to be somebody in the family. It has to be somebody within within your group. You didn't go to a bar and get into a fight with a friend. You didn't go down to the supermarket and get into a fight with another customer. Just be a salt. It would just be a domestic assault. So we know that it's within the family. I'm told it's not her three other sisters. I was
this just the fight between sisters. We all had them. We all had a fight with our siblings. They said no, it was far more serious for the police to get involved. So the only other two people within that nuclear family is Theresa and Nuri. We also checked very carefully. This incident happened. We know where it happened. It happened. We only know the town
βwhere it happened, but they live in that town. So this is all pointing towards the fact thatβ
it probably was family member. And when you look at the family, the sources I have on the show are speculating are saying that they all believe that there's Lumi, her stepfather. There's a lot of resentment there. Bring it into their lives. They love their dad Joe. He was deported. And now this new guy has turned up. And there's a lot of tension in that house. We see it on the show. I'm not reporting anything here. There should be shock in it. It's a really toxic family. And they've had
issues. And I'm surprised that it took this long for it to explode. I do know that Bravo did not capture this incident on camera, but secretly behind the scenes. They're beautiful because the show got a little bit boring. We were telling the same story over and over again. This new seasons, which they are shooting right now. Right now, the cameras are dead. I'm told that what they've shot so far could probably be tossed out because the main story line of this season
now is going to be Melania's arrest. This is so interesting because what we've been hearing out of Bravo was that not only was New Jersey on the bubble. They might just let that aspect, that part of the franchise die. Surprise that the child of a woman who got herself famous by flipping a table at a family christening was arrested on domestic assault. But what you're talking about, you know, the way they depicted this new marriage on the show, Teresa does this all the time,
he's perfect. He's amazing. Well, I said, very sketchy past. His entire body is wax. His face is like, like, red is a tomato. He just looks like he's incandescent with rage at every moment and he's pushing it down. He's like a men's right, he's got, you know, he's like, he's a weird
dude. If I had daughters, I would let nowhere here. I was saying anything on tward, but I would never
let a guy like that near a minor child. And this is what makes great reality TV. I'm going to predict it's going to be a big season for Bravo and Jesse. It was on the bubble. You're absolutely right. This show has lost most of its viewers. They were desperately trying to reinvent it. Teresa is on this season. So is her sister in law, Melissa, and once again, Teresa has made us off the star of the show and the main storyline of the next season of the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Great parenting, great parenting. Rob, we love you. I don't think I've laughed as hard all week. I feel like the most fun. It's the most fun when you're on. Thank you for coming on the nerve. You're the best. I'll see you next week. My friends. Thank you. Next week. You're London. Take care. Oh, yeah, from London. Coming up. Bravo maker. Feedback. We are back in a minute.
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my ear. Now it is time for a troublemaker. Be it back. These first two are by the way in response.
We saw this in the comments section. We know it's Meghan Markle or her minions just our opinion saying, hey, you know that port of potty that you showed on the nerve that said Markle's port of potty, a photo that was taken by a troublemaker and sent to the nerve. They were like, that's a fake. Prove it. Prove it because we've got troublemakers back in that shit up.
βLiterally the Markle port of potty company writes Jane Doe needs to get Sussex toilet paperβ
for their potty. Oh my god. Okay. This one's great. There is Sussex toilet paper, according to troublemaker M. Oh, she says I can use her first name Marcella. There is an entire aisle of this shit by which she means Sussex toilet paper. In the Buenos Aires grocery store called
Elcoto, the aisle of Sussex toilet paper was never ending what a business opportunity for Markle's
potty. This is amazing. Then this comes from troublemaker Rocco who went on next door and found all the legitimate info for Markle's pumping service along with an actual phone number that has a 905 area code and the helpful website information, which is Markle's pumping service.com. Could not love you guys more. Could not love you more. We are showing this photo sent in by troublemaker Jordan. This photo of former three-time New York City mayor, Michael Bloomberg
suffering the presence of Shomalama Ding Dong at the next game during the NBA finals
is literally everything. Michael Bloomberg is all of us. I'm an adventurer to guess Michael Bloomberg could potentially be a troublemaker or converted into one. This from troublemaker Mobo, Bill, sorry, from the Upper East Side, not Bill from Brooklyn. This is Bill from the Upper East Side, who is written in before and had a very funny Caroline Kennedy anecdote. This is Bill's Andy Cohen encounter story, which is very timely given what Robin I just discussed. About 15 years ago,
I was arriving alone at a bravo party in a downtown loft building waiting for the elevator the doors opened and there was Andy Cohen apparently on his way out. Except, he didn't get out. Instead, he stood in the elevator doorway and looked to be up and down. Then up and down again. And then one more time for good measure. The inspection went on long enough to become genuinely uncomfortable. He seemed completely absorbed in deciding whether or not he was going to hit on me.
Apparently the answer was no because eventually he stepped out and went on his way. This is one of the most, it's a perfect example of how these celebrities are like out in the wild. They encounter a civilian. That behavior is exactly dead on. And by the way, I have a similar story, but it's professional in nature. But I was once at a job interview at the Condonast building. And I was dressed appropriately for it. And I was alone in the elevator. It stopped the doors opened and out of winter got in the
elevator. Now this is before the Delaware's product. And I had heard the stories that if you are in an elevator in the Condonast building and Anna Winter exits, you are to get out. I did knock it out.
βAnd for that, I was rewarded with the up and down and up and down. And I was like, I think I lookβ
pretty decent. So it's not really hit me where I live to start dear. Boring during Madonna's recent desperate confessions to roll out. She did a six minute. I love you, Trouble Maker. Okay. She did a six
Minute YouTube segment with Grindr two weeks ago.
Maker Eric Madonna is asked who she had the best sex ever with and to my surprise. She emphatically
declares JFK Junior as being her most satisfying sex partner ever. This Trouble Maker
βEric writes is a lie lie all in caps. And I remember the exact same thing you do Eric and I'm soβ
glad you wrote in because I wasn't even sure whether it was worth bringing up that you were so right to bring this up. Now Madonna made it very clear. Trouble Maker Eric writes for many years. The JFK Junior was in fact the worst sex she ever had her brother Christopher Chaconie even repeated this in a 2008 Howard Stern interview Chaconie said Madonna said that JFK Junior was like
having sex with a 10 year old by which she meant, you know, he didn't really know what he was doing
in bed. And I can completely believe it because a guy who looked like that and had that name and that money, you know what I mean? It was like he didn't have to make an effort at anything. And this is the problem. He thought he was graded everything including sex. You know, you know, it was like,
βI'm sure this was a huge part of Carolyn's sets issue with him. Anyway, Trouble Maker Ericβ
goes on to say, this does not make Madonna look good. This interview can also be found right on YouTube. Madonna wants so bad to be relevant in 2026. And she knows that JFK Junior is a hot topic right now. Please shine a light on this bullshit. Happy to Eric. You just didn't, man. You just did it. Love you. Okay. Final Trouble Maker feedback. And we love these because these are the best. You guys are often sending, excuse me, sending in photos, not only of your animal companions,
the loves of your lives, but your human ones as well. Dear morning, back in 2009, this is Trouble Maker L. I became a caretaker for my father in law. He was a New Yorker born 1935. I loved hearing his valued real talk about fake people. Together, we rescued a pomeranian from a puppy mill who we affectionately called cookie because she was the sweetest. We were a trio of Trouble Makers. Sadly, we lost cookie and then I lost my father in law. So sorry. Life,
Trouble Maker L writes, gave back to me in the form of my daughter, September. Trouble Maker L also included a photo of her daughter, September, along with the photo we're seeing here of her father in law in cookie, but we're not going to show that one. That's a private, not for public consumption. Lisa writes, she is so special. When I watch the nerve, my daughter is drawn, my daughter is drawn to your hair and your jewelry. And her hope is that September will become a
future Trouble Maker. I consider her one already. Raising him right, my friend, Andy Cohen could take a page out of your book. She included her daughter, September's kindergarten picture, and she's wearing very sweet, Trouble Maker coded jewelry. P.S. We both want to know about your large light blue ring. It is Aquamarine and I got it on like an antique's Resale site. That is it. Keep your feedback. Coming, please email me at [email protected] or DM me on Instagram at morine calian writer or
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