‘Basic Instinct’ Live From SF With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Van Lathan

All right. [APPLAUSE]

“Last time you heard this song, it was a cocaine”

three-sum in a bathroom, followed by some dancing. And now, we are here, you horny motherfuckers. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE] Let me introduce the rewatchable cast.

First of all, thank you everybody for coming out tonight.

This theater is awesome. Thank you. You look at third deck up there, it's great. First off, he's the curator of the Wake Girl Hall famed. He's currently hosting a record 17 different ringer podcast.

The next pair of Los Angeles, Ben Lathen. [APPLAUSE] You know her as the mother of dragons. She's a woman who really likes hands and fingers. She's almost definitely going to violate a public obscenity law tonight.

Madly Rubin. [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] He's the five-time rewatchables MVP. He's the man who turned March into CR much.

He's the author of three books about medals. CR himself, Chris Ryan. [APPLAUSE]

“And over on this side, for the first time ever joining us for a live show,”

our producer, the guy who's taken over this podcast,

after I'm found naked in dead, like Johnny Buzz.

[APPLAUSE] Yeah. All right. Do you like that CR? I do.

I like the idea also that you're not killed by a beautiful blonde, but by a Lakers fan. Thank you. Let's talk most San Francisco movies ever. Yeah.

Wow. CR. We talked about this earlier. I think the necessities are hills. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Shots of the bridge and nice real estate. Anything else? What do you got? I just think that the sky, the light, the fog.

There's like a atmospheric element that San Francisco movies tend to bring into play.

I mean, you've got some real. We were talking about how hard it is to move anything off of Mount Rushmore for these. Yeah. So we were thinking like movies that actually used the stadiums. It's really cool to do in this, you know, in San Francisco, obviously.

Movies that make you feel like you're in San Francisco. Yeah. My four are a basic instinct. Vertigo. Bullet.

Cause of the car chase. And then 40 hours. My favorite movie ever. Ben, what else would you put there? Cause I could offer you Mrs. Doufire.

Yeah. I could offer you the rock. Pacific Heights. The game. Anything else?

What about like dirty hairy, right? Could offer you dirty hairy. Dirty hairy was here. Yeah, man. As a matter of fact, I just won't let you guys know.

They're lying about your city. I'm on here. I expect to see Batman patrolling the streets like. Fucking gourds. Yeah. Honestly.

This goes back. We went from our hotel to the Giants Game last night. Yeah. Just go some great shape. I don't know.

Not listen to the voice in more. At the Philly's lost. Philly's lost. Mallory. To the sea.

Mallory. We're ready to go over. Or not. Yeah. Yeah.

And naturally you're missing a little bit of a genre of presence. No, man. You know. You didn't have the MCU on your list. Planted of the apes.

Now star traps. This is a good one. Yeah. That's good. What's your favorite?

I have a similar Mount Rushmore to you. I'd say it's probably bullet, zodiac. This movie. Basic instinct. And Mrs. Dalfire for me.

Craig, you're the only one that grew up here. I grew up in the East Bay. But yes. Wow. So what's the most San Francisco movie ever?

For me growing up, Mrs. Dalfire for sure. Okay. All right.

“Well, we have a more important Mount Rushmore.”

The Radix Riller Mount Rushmore. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Which. The unassailable choices are body heat, fatal attraction.

Basic instinct and unfaithful.

Uh, is that the rate for is that everyone else you put in nine and a half weeks? What else? Well, we've done three of those four together. We sure have three watchables.

And now we're doing this one together for the second time.

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. A real match. Yeah.

“That's how a three of the five of us got through the first month of COVID.”

Was learning how to podcast remotely talking about this movie. Very normal podcast. It was on Zoom three weeks after COVID started. I honestly don't even remember one aspect of what happened. I don't remember what it happened.

I'll do that if I ever see you guys again in person. Right. Right. He was using the pandemic as a shield to make all of these declarations about how we start wearing deep Vinex sweaters. Right.

And do we co-peen in the bathroom stall with a nightclub? So, Van, this movie. Show me the nightclub. You know, with the night's young. This movie jump starts the erratic thriller, Skinna Max era.

Yeah. Which I guess technically starts with night eyes and 1990 with Andrew Stevens. I know you're on an on 4K Blu-ray. Yeah, of course. So stockings on CBS.

No theater. Don't even start it anymore. Yes.

Basically, we have Shane and Tweet and Shane and Warrior about to come in our lives.

All of them. What do you remember from this era? I remember like staying up late, making sure that my parents were asleep. I was by myself having a great time. The manual, all the different manuals. I haven't, I have a list later. I'm not by myself.

But, you know, red shoe diaries. Yeah. You fucking freak you. Red shoe. Yeah.

All of that stuff. Because what happened was this is prestige freak shit. Basic and state. That's not, I could get to that, right? That was in the movie theater.

But then the freak shit that came on later on. You know, that was the stuff that was accessible to me. That's really made me a man. See her and I have that very different experiences with this movie. Because I saw this movie in college by myself.

And Mr. Massachusetts during the day. Wait a second. Yeah. Don't let that slide. Yeah.

I saw this movie in college by myself. Yeah. Every time after class, every story he tells from him in college. Oh, it was me house and Joe King. Yeah.

He made them motherfuckers leave. It was a solo.

“How many empty seats between you and the next guy who was also jerking off?”

Throughout the entire movie? Extra butter. I don't remember a lot other than that. There were no couples. And I'm going to say between 16 and 18 guys, soloing.

Yeah. Different spots with theater. There you go. And it just, the feedback or the stuff that was coming out about this movie.

First of all, we knew like the new scenes were off the chain.

We knew Sharon Stone was the lady from Total Recall and some action Jackson movies. We liked. And then there was supposedly this female frontal thing that you didn't know what it was. So it was a little like the shark and jaws waiting to see what was going to happen. Yeah.

But if you didn't know you were going to get a shark in John. It was just true. And I honestly see how this movie went way further than I was prepared. But you saw it younger than me because you're good. Yeah.

We were like Dan Orlovski breaking down tape with this. Once the video stores, there was a lot of missing copies of this. And there was a lot of, probably manipulating the tracking on your VHS machine. So this is a Hall of Fame rental. How did this help you through puberty?

I was thinking about this Sharon Stone 86 through 92. Like her and Kathy Ireland are the bird and magic of my sectional. Yeah. Who would you throw in Van? I got a list.

All right. So at the bottom of the list, all the ladies from the various Emmanuel movies. Emmanuel Queen of the Desert, Emmanuel in Space, Black Emmanuel, Emmanuel in Bangkok. It had a manual for every fucking flavor that you needed. All right.

Number four, Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct. Yeah. Number three, Robin Gibbons in a rage in Harlem. Number two, Janet Jackson in the Pleasure Pantry video. Come on.

Number one, Pam Greer, Foxy Brown. My mom. That's all I'm talking about.

“My mom actually made you need to get into Pam Greer and Foxy.”

But my mother suggested I watch that. You know why? Because of Basic Instinct. Yeah. My mom thought that she was going to lose me to the white women.

And she was like, so she was like, "Foxy was right. But you can do it, Junior." And she goes, "You have the same Foxy Brown." Because she knew those could be back to the black side of the situation. Shout out to Mama.

She was like, "Mish it accomplished." Well, we have a rewatchable's award named after a character. This movie, "The Catherine Tremel." Would you throw your life away for this obvious stay away award?

"I'm writing a book about a podcast who falls in love with the wrong women." And it was Sharon Stone in this movie. Are you just like, "I'm going to be dead in four weeks?" I mean, it's less than four weeks.

“I think that this movie actually has multiple candidates for this, though.”

Like, I'm watching at this time around. I would toss it all away for Beth. I mean, that's, yeah. What about Foxy? Beautiful lady, but also free therapist.

Right. And Roxy. Yeah. And Roxy. Yeah.

It's easily Roxy, man. Yeah. So, I was going to talk about this later, because we got to get into Sharon Stone. But Roxy just comes and goes. She's in this movie, and she's the cop stripper in days and thunder.

Never seen again. You look at her IMDB. It's like, she just, I don't know what happened. But if you just saw this movie, you would have thought she was going to be as big of a star as Sharon Stone.

Or at least close. Oh. No. This for me. Yeah.

If you saw this movie now, you definitely would think that's a person who's going to be responsible for generating a lot of memes. Yeah. Which is powerful in its own way. But Sharon Stone, you watch this movie. And you're like, this is the most powerful force of nature.

Like a hurricane in human form. That's not exactly what Roxy is giving. She's giving. Yeah. Roxy provoked different revisions.

Yeah.

You know, I never went for the Sharon Stone types.

[ Laughter ] And you mean the Catherine Tremel title? She has Sharon Stone. No. What I mean is that, like, you go to the club with your boys.

I'm going to buckle up. And everyone goes, "Yo, we're going to go." Yo, we got to have this girl. I would always look at her friend. I'd be like, her friend is not getting any attention.

She's looking at her friend on a dance floor. She's pissed off. She's like, "Look at all the motherfuckers looking at her. I wish I was her." And then I come over and I validate her.

I go, "Girl, you are her." [ Laughter ] That's Roxy. [ Laughter ] So, you just need to balance her.

Yeah. [ Cheers and applause ] A quote in this movie about the Sharon Stone character Mallory. I love it. She's got a hundred billion bucks.

She fucks fighters in rock and roll stars. And she's got a degree in screwing with people's heads. And that's not the craziest thing to say about her during this movie. No. Or the craziest thing that she says.

I mean, the quotes in this movie are astonishing. One of the wonderful colleagues, Elizabeth, live events head at Rockstar, our own Rockstar. She hasn't seen this movie. We were backstage with her.

“And I was thinking, wouldn't it be fun if we did like a, is this a real quote from this movie game with her?”

Right? Because like, you could break out. Have you ever fucked on cocaine, Nick? It's nice. And then you could break out.

There's come. [ Laughter ] All over the shit. Right? And you would get like 45 lines.

That's not what it says. [ Laughter ] All over. There's another one. Before you got off.

Impressive. That would be a fun game show. We could have gone 150 lines deep before we even had to put the first one. Or we even had to put the first fake quote in there. It's amazing.

Elizabeth does the live shows for us.

And she always watches the movie and the flight to the location.

And we were like, "No!" Yeah. [ Laughter ] You need a privacy screen. Please, though.

“Who is, like, what actors now van would be the Sharon Stone that you would cast in this movie?”

Interesting question. Because this feels, does feel generational, right? You go through, because there was a Kathleen Turner phase where she would have been in it. So this movie came out a different time. Okay?

We have penises now. This movie came out when we had dicks. [ Laughter ] Yeah. Completely different.

We didn't have to pretend like it was something nice about what was happening. It was aggressive. It was primal. Now I'm trying to think who could bring that energy. Who could like, who could do that and like not give a fuck.

You know, not care. Maybe like Margaret Quelli. Maybe she's a little bit like that. You know, I don't know, it's different now because if you make the movie now, everyone's going to be so self aware of everything that's happening. This movie kind of like cleans through its plot with reckless abandon and it doesn't really care what anyone thinks about it.

It will be difficult to like cast somebody in that role and have them just be completely free.

I know we like always end up picking the same person, but is it not Sydney Sweeney?

[ Laughter ] Is it not? I mean, obviously she could pull it off. I think so. Here's the difference.

Here's the difference that we're sharing and why this movie is so important or she'd popped in stuff, but we didn't really have a history with her. She was like she had been in a bunch of stuff. She was in action Jackson. Yeah. And I remember like she was in a reconcile with differences, which is a great divorce movie, which is not available anywhere.

But she was in that and like 1982 and for 10 years was just bouncing around. What was the album for me once? She was in a cigar movie and just total recall was probably the biggest movie that she was in, right? She's great in that. So this was kind of her moment.

The point is that like at this junction her career, she was hungry enough to do a movie like this and not hold anything back. So if we talk about actresses there in that situation now, we're going to talk about more establishes actresses. But like, it's like a controversial role. Yeah. We really go a lot of places that you know could end up really being combustible for your career like it was for Elizabeth Markling and showgirls.

Or it could make you like it dear for Shandstone and basically.

So they get Michael Douglas for 14 million dollars for this movie.

And then he gets kind of semi-approval for who the female star is going to be. Shandstone was the 13th choice. She made 500,000 dollars, which was less than 14 million.

“And it didn't part though because of what you're just saying, right?”

Like he really wanted somebody who was equally famous and renowned to kind of. They were anticipating that it would be controversial. You write him basing, right? And then he was like, but he was going to be able to shoulder the load of the blowback. And I do remember like you can see it now when you put in blowback in the movie.

When you go on and read about like it's released now. She's such a wild card because she's kind of like, I have nothing to lose. So she's saying crazy shit in interviews and she's, you know, her vibe is not like, I'm a well established star. I know exactly what I'm doing.

She's kind of like, I'm blowing this pot stand before we, I get out of here. Well, they offered it to Michelle Fyfer who said no. And thank God because I think that might have actually killed me. She was in this movie. I'd be dead.

I don't even toast in this. It wouldn't be me if it was somebody else. She's still not nominated for an Oscar for this movie. Yeah, I'm sorry, Bill. I'll give you the nominees.

Please do. Emma Thompson wins for Howard Zend. Katherine Dunniv for Indochene? Is that how you say it? Immigene?

Sure. Mary McDonald for Passion Fish. Michelle Fyfer for Lovefield and Susan Sarandon for Lorenzo's oil.

“I think we could have snuck Sharon in there, guys.”

I don't know. Like who else could have done that?

Since movie made $356 million.

This isn't a useful place to ask this. Do you take this movie seriously? [laughter] I don't. Yeah.

I think it's a great time by wayfates it because I love Lorenzo. You said you said this a million times, it's a vibes movie. It is a vibes movie, for sure. Yes. I like being in San Francisco.

I like watching them smoke. I like the nightclub scene. Yeah. I like Michael Douglas who we're going to get to in a second. It's in the running for funniest performance of the 90s.

It's amazing. She doesn't know it's funny, but everyone else knows it's hilarious. And it's just a fun movie to hang out with. Yeah. This run of Paul Verhova movies works because even Paul Verhova is like, we need to make this funny movie incredibly seriously.

Right. Starship Troopers is kind of the same thing.

“I think they all know they're in this insane movie about it.”

I don't think it does. What's that? I don't think Michael Douglas knows that this is funny. I think he's like, for me, this is to work. I have to 100% commit.

But if you read that script, you're like, this is Polish it and it's hilarious. He's 47 when he makes the movie. Wow. I still got time. Wow.

[ Laughter ] Yeah. Go ahead. [ Cheers and applause ] Um, probably should have been a younger actor.

Uh-huh. Would be fantastic. Come on, man. No. He's talking about.

You said no on that?

Well, first of all, I like to create an age difference.

You know, you know, among consenting adults. But I think there's something about Nick being in like a midlife crisis. It's actually pretty important. He's had a marriage, his wife killed herself. He has committed four shootings.

Yeah. Yeah. He has to have three shots. He has to have three shots. He has to have three shots.

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He has to have three shots. He has to have five shots. He has to have 25 shots. Yeah. Here's the thing.

He is one of the biggest movie stars who throughout his career routinely takes a chance with the way the audience sees him. And it's like, I don't mind playing the hero who's a piece of shit. Yeah. And he's like, not he's the main star of Wall Street. You know, he does these things where he's like,

I'll push my boat out and make sure we people have a really provocative experience. When you say, like, how the audience see is him. Do you mean specifically him walking toward him? Yeah. Yeah.

And like, consider the time, right? So you're in a male Gibson Kevin Costner, which we're going to talk a lot a little bit about that later time, where all of those guys are kind of competing to be the All-American movie star. And really his lane is being the freak.

He's a freaking freak. And no one else really wants to do it. He'll do it. He's great at it. And he kind of makes his career.

At least a second half of it on that.

We've been in a lot of rewatchables movies. He's not anyone's favorite actor, but he's been in a ton of everybody's favorite movies. Yeah. Michael Douglas, super fan. Yes.

It's my guy, me and Mike, but I mean, Mike Doug van. From 84 on, he rips off for Mance in the Stone, Julia the Nile, chorus line, fatal traction Wall Street, Wednesday Oscar. Black rain, War the Rose's basic instinct, falling down to disclosure of American President ghost and darkness the game. Perfect murder, Wonder Boy's traffic. That's amazing.

That is amazing work. And we're producer. American President is the weird movie in that group. Yeah. Right.

I keep waiting for the American President to be like jerking off under the Resolute test. But he's like, no, I'm just saying he really could go.

It's in the extended blue res.

Yeah, director Scott. Craig, you're younger than us.

“What's your relationship with Michael Doug was just what just wandering into this after the fact?”

I don't even think I have one. I don't know what to go to Michael Douglas role. I asked my wife, Liz, I'm like, what's your opinion on Michael Douglas? Like, did you ever think he was hot and she's like, honestly, no, it's just kind of a creep. (laughter)

Jesus, Michael Douglas ever, like, a top three love interest in Hollywood. Man, let me see. For my mom. Yeah. Well, mom, mom used to look at Bella, traction, it'd be like,

(humming) I see what she was doing all about. Look at that. Harrison Ford, dark side Harrison Ford. No way.

No, because Harrison Ford has got tear. You can't say anyone is any version of me. (laughter) What are you thinking? What's wrong with you?

But Harrison Ford, Cossner, Douglas Gear, those were the men who my mom was obsessed with and loved. And Michael Douglas was the one who didn't quite catch for me in terms of being sexually obsessed with him. Though, I will tell you guys that when I booted up this movie to prepare to rewatch it to prepare for this live show,

“you know, there's a pretty famous moment in this movie that I think a lot of people pause on, right?”

Well, it'll come up tonight, I think. I had paused at a different moment. I booted up the director's cut and it was at one hour, 11 minutes and 43 seconds, which is the side cock shot. During the fuck of the century scene. So I guess that was where I had just checked in, booted it up at some point,

taken a look, paused it, left, and there it was waiting for me. Do you think that was in between- I was watching her husband watch like that seems right. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I mean, it was six years ago, the last few watchables. I've definitely looked at that since.

No question. You... I thought we were going to do side cock later. Well, we can go back to them, don't worry. I want to think about Douglas because he was also a producer.

Yeah, really good timing on when to jump in on a movie that's kind of parallel, parallel and whatever's happening in real life. Like, even you go back to China's syndrome, which is in, which was like right whenever everyone's afraid of nuclear war, late 70s. Wall Street is the greed is good.

Basic instinct. Big fear of AIDS early 90s. And he, one of the, in the research, one of the things he really wanted to do with this movie was push the envelope, sexually the other way in movies. And then disclosure was another one with workplace.

Sure. Press them up, but he just over and over again had really good taste. Sure. That's one way of pushing it. Yeah.

Mallory.

“So what was the documentary you saw with the storyboarding?”

Oh, yeah. There's a bonus feature at called, I believe, Blond Poison. Yeah. Blond Poison, the making of Basic Instinct, which is about 30-ish minutes. A good chunk of it at the end is about actually the protests of the film.

Yeah. LGBT groups.

And I would say the first like 15-18 minutes before that are largely Paul Verhoven.

The director. The director talking about how he just insisted very clearly that everybody understood that they had to be naked in the movie. And that they had to follow the exact game plan for the sex scenes because he had diagrammed them very precisely and then intercut with his commentary.

I'm going to hold up one for you guys. Yeah. Paul Verhoven's work right there. Pretty special. Pretty special.

Yeah. So he's storyboarded the entire thing. They spent five days filming fuck of the century. Yeah. Because he was so concerned that they were going to make him cut stuff and make it an

X rating or whatever. He wanted to be covered in every way ship or form.

They filmed for five days, 10 hours a day. A 90 second sex scene. If you're watching the director's cut, it's a little longer. Yeah. And also Michael Douglas and Sharon Stone apparently were not like super close during the

making of this, which makes it all the more interesting. Well, I mean, I think that there wasn't a lot of coffee corner like just chitchat about like he didn't want it to be in a movie. Yeah. They had gone through a bunch of people and he was concerned because he's making this

movie where he's got to play a killer, coke addicted cop. And he wanted a was actress to share that burden with him and get it over to finish line and all of them looked at the script. He was like, you fucking crazy. Not doing this.

And so then they got Sharon Stone. But he was a little bit trepidation about it. Then I hesitate to ask you this. You were filming with Sharon Stone for five straight days for 10 hours a day. She was small general pads on.

How would that go by like Wednesday?

Well, say I always wanted this because like.

“First of all, you have to respond and say the general pad wouldn't be small.”

He said you up there. You have to come in and say that. But they were also not wearing general pads. They're famously completely naked filming this. Oh, so they're naked filming.

I thought they did. No, also, now. What's this feature at? Here's a quote from the director of this movie. I wanted to really see oral sex.

I wanted to see how he sucked her tits. I wanted to see all that. Thank you, everybody. I think they're how they do it. I guess that's why they act for a little bit.

I really, none of us have seen this behind the scenes. And I'm not entirely sure she's not like making this up. Yeah. Because I looked for it online and I was like, "Oh, block poison.

I can't find this." I'll also have the tip. Yeah, just like I said in the storyboard pictures. Yeah. The weird thing is also there's stories that the actors told that Verhoven was like.

He would be like, okay, here's what we're going to do.

Here's the blocking. And then they would show up day off. And he would like, psychure all my new storyboards. And he would be like, calling hot routes on Jean-Trip Oron. Yeah, I don't know.

I technically ver. But yeah. Verhoven, Robocop Total Recall, based against the starship troopers. Just for the many.

Just a pervied Dutch guy.

“I think we'll be the best way to describe him.”

Love pushed an envelope. Love to put stuff in their kind of making fun of Americans. And we didn't realize it as we loved the movies. Didn't realize who's flipping an honest. What's his apex mountain for movies?

I think in retrospect, it's starship troopers. Yeah, I think so. In some ways. Really? I think that has like a better reputation than basic instinct.

Interesting. What do you think, Ben? I think it's easily basic instinct. I think it's not even close. I think Starship troopers has.

He has his ability to elevate. I guess what people will consider to be like. Trash really accessible kind of stories. But basic instinct was a cultural phenomenon. It was a movie that like legitimately.

My mom and then went to see it and they came back. And I was like, girl, was it just standing with that ice pick? What's going on? Like, it was a movie that you absolutely had to talk about.

“And really, as much as fail attraction got this genre started in a.”

Definitely. Yeah. This kind of solidified the genre as a money maker. And as something that could like be star making for sharing stuff. Like, you would approach these movies differently.

After basic instinct. Because you know that doing one and taking the risk and taking the chances. And like putting yourself out there on film like that. Can end up in making you a star. Which is what this movie did for sharing stuff.

So she did all of this stuff and then they paid off. So I think this is probably his mind. Well, this is my opinion. I also think it's fair to say that. There weren't really characters like this until this movie.

Like, these kind of powerful female in control of the relationship.

Like, this is like a Susan B. Anthony over here. This became something that a lot of movies try to do. But I don't know who tried to do it before this movie. I can't really think of one. Can you see her?

A femme for tall like this? No, not. I mean, like, not this explicitly in this violently. Because like, body heat did it, right? Sure.

That was ten years earlier. And there's some other ones over the years. But I think this jump started. Then what was interesting about this movie is all the rip off. Terrible movies that tried to, you know?

Yeah. It's called her night participated. Yeah. Yeah, sliver. I've seen them all.

I know Van has them all in blue, right? Yeah. This movie had people protesting various parts of it. Like, I couldn't even decide what to protest. Sharon Stone hosted SNL in April 1992 and six people disrupted that.

And they had to like change it. But people are pretty pissed off for a variety of reasons. Yeah. About this movie. Joester Hass was the writer.

Three million dollars got for the script.

There was a bidding war from Carol Co. Productions. So if anyone has ever listened to the rewatchables, probably our favorite production company. More of us alone, segal, Arnold Schwarzenegger,

classics, basing against things. Fucking from Netflix. Notting happily. Yeah. A lot of cocaine.

Yeah. A lot of cocaine. Yeah. SRHOS is basically in a competition with Shane Black, who we just talked about on nice guys.

He, these two were like basically trading back and forth the, like all-time richest screenplay deal for like five years. Right. And then SRHOS gets mad because Verhoeven's putting all this extra stuff for the movie ends up walking off the set.

49, 49 million dollar budget.

Made 353 million, the fourth highest grossing movie of 1990.

That would be 800 million today. This would be Project Hail Mary today. Amazing. Amazing. For aggressive R rated erotic people.

Well, so this is an interesting topic. Could this happen anymore?

“Do people want to be in a movie theater watching people fuck like this?”

No. Because of Craig's generation. No. No. No.

We were doing, I can't remember what movie we were doing. And this was the time, you know, after Craig said that he, he would shoot somebody in the heart and that changed my opinion of him forever. But we were watching the movie and Craig said, they were just titties in the movie for no reason.

So, I don't know if I can do myself. Time for fucking distance is it between me and Craig? Whatever titties show up, I am happy to meet you. Great. Craig was a comfortable week.

Thank you. Well, and now 200 movies later, I'm like bummed when there's no nudity. Yeah. Yeah.

We've showed you back. Come on. Filmscore got an Oscar nomination. Jerry Goldsmith. Young to bot, work in the cameras?

Young to boot? Yeah. Yeah. Little young. A couple years for speed.

Craig, 112 minutes. Plus 22 on the Heraldbex. Craig thinks every movie should be 90 minutes. 22 over par. Yeah.

You can kind of skip right to the sex scenes now. It doesn't really matter how long it is.

“You know, everything's, everything's clipped by five now, you know?”

Yeah, that second half of the movie probably could be Titan, I would say. Also, the last 25 minutes of this movie, you're like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. It's present to a who don't it? By the way, the movie would've been longer if shooter could last.

Shooter has a premature ejaculation problem. Oh, yeah. It is. Oh. Yeah.

Here comes nine minute van. Nine minute van. At minimum. Do we know you had a premature ejaculation? Do we know you had a premature ejaculation?

It was just that it was that way. Thank God we have battery. I've been like, hey, y'all. On God, like, for real, for real, for real. Like, give me at least two extra minutes of people know how to move out here.

And it's metaphor. You know what I'm saying? I can't have people thinking that the credits are going to roll. I'm going to be popping before it's, you know what I'm saying? The best scene, unfortunate in many respects, including this one.

Very quick. But the Katherine scenes. I don't know. I think like we see her orgasm so many different times, including from the single most memorable part of the movie, which is him going down on her, maintaining eye contact.

The entire time and going cross-eyed. Like he's trying to like identify a unicorn in a magic eye painting. Oh.

When I see, when we do the design never, ever, ever, what I'm sexy.

[laughter] Like, every time he's doing, like, a muppet version of someone going down on something, it just kills me. But then he's on top, the backstretch that she's on top, right? So we're going through some pretty protracted scenes. Like, you've got to count on her, like, girl, you think I wouldn't go and do this, did you?

And now he was really impressed with himself. Yeah, yeah. And then he watched his own blowjob in the mirror. Where do you guys on bedroom ceiling mirrors? What part of the podcast is this?

What do you think?

“I always like see myself and like, "Yo, Nicky, you need to work out."”

[laughter] Like, we had gone to the islands, and my titties lay to the side. [laughter] It was one of the during the MTV Crips era. It was one of those when somebody had the bedroom mirror.

You really knew. Yeah. So freak shit was going down. It was always a red flag. Yeah, it was one of the other.

It was definitely a statement. Uh, speaking of statements, Roger Ebert.

Yeah. Two stars. One a mess. Yeah, I can't be Roger. Yes, he said.

The film is like a crossword puzzle.

It keeps your interest and too you saw it. And then it's just a worthless scrap with the spaces filled in. Oh, damn. I don't want to give 'em a fuck you, Roger. But I'm going to give 'em like a borderline fuck you, Roger.

Just a whiff. I don't like that. Two and a half. Give it a two and a half. Come on.

I'm surprised he didn't give it a two and a half. Like two is like, this is a very well made move even if you think it's absolutely.

“I think he was just really upset by the ending mainly.”

I think he kind of liked it. But he was upset about the ice pick at the end. He's just knocked a star off at the end. The reason why the review surprises me is because the movie takes itself very seriously. And it's well made, well acted and well crafted.

There's some really insanely well crafted scenes here. It's not throwing anything away. So you would think that he would respect the craftsmanship a little bit more than like what he did. It's pretty like critically derided film. It is.

I mean, a lot of the reviews are bad. It's adored by the public, right? But it's not like everybody. It's not like Roger's on an island. No, it's tough.

Like there's like Sharon Stone talks about like thinking like I've made like I've done it. I made double indemnity. People are in love with this. Well, wait till she hears this podcast. Then she's going to know that's true.

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Well, so for the rewatchables, if you haven't heard any of the pods with them, we do categories. To break down the movie. First category is most rewatchable scene. We'll give you some runner-up nominees.

Incredible opening murder scene right into the police showing up.

And dialogue that goes, "There's come stands all over the sheets." So, let's talk about it now. I would love to. Yeah. Johnny Bos just that night, no maid.

No, they're easy made. This is part of what I have to say. She's a restaurant. She's a restaurant. They even pointed out.

“She's 54 and 2 and 40 and so they say she couldn't be the murderer.”

Which is pretty fucked up, honestly. Not the only fucked up thing in the movie. Because they blew like this and it looks like a Sunday. It looks like everyone's tracking Artemis right now. The NASA photos.

Bases sheets under the black light. It looks like the face of the moon that NASA is currently showing us. Splattered craters everywhere. So, he either is Mount Basuvius. Right.

One night only.

Or he's never watched anything.

His bedroom is a no-go zone for the maid. And those sheets have not been changed in weeks. Yes. And that's that. Yeah.

So, do you have a theory that I bet you do on the sheets with the no-main or just- Is it one night? Or is he doing it by the name of Peter North? Who? Throughout the course of his career was able to set records.

And if you guys don't know who he is, you'll be amazed.

Not necessarily about like function. So, it wasn't the fact that he was doing it a lot. It was like when he was doing it, talking about fucking firehouse. So, my question is if you're getting stabbed to death with the nice pick. As you're coming.

Yeah. Is that like a triple come shot? Sorry to be crude. But if the maid's not coming, that has to be the only other explanation. I just don't think the human body contains that much ejaculate at one period of time.

Okay. Well, you're not your boy-so. I'm scared.

So, first thing I tell you, you're going to be stabbed 31 times with the nice pick.

Not to get too graphic here. But like, isn't it fine? Go ahead. Is it Johnny Bos inside Catherine Trous? Yes.

Yes. Why they're seeming everywhere? I think the idea, also, is they have done it multiple times that night. That this is like, it's Johnny Bos's fuck of the century. That's right.

Cocaine on the penis. Yeah. Anyone second guessing their decision to come tonight? That's not a great time.

“That's what you guys do when you're coming for.”

The woman in the opening scene, by the way, was Sharon Stone. It didn't seem like because they have her hair covered by this herd and Verhova. It all seems like she's in a wig. They put in a blonde wig, I think, to make you think it could be somebody else, yeah. Yeah.

There are some pretty clear indicators. See, I would you want to go this way? It's like you could pick ten different ways to die with the Johnny Bos being the top three. I would be so thrilled to find out what the other ones would be. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. This is like the Tyrion Lanister.

You know, how he's always saying he wants to go with a belly full of wine and some lips are out of top.

Like, this is the Johnny Bos. Another quote from this scene, he got off before he got off. Yeah. That's where you know you're in the right hands. Next scene, the first visit to Sharon Stone's house.

Incredible. Catherine Tremel, we get a great, great Bay Area drive. Amazing house. gorgeous. Fantastic.

I'm going to give this to Dented Thieves Beniano, where it seems still in the location. See you. Yeah. Jumping. Yeah.

Really nice. Good deck. Great deck. Great deck. Great deck.

Great deck. Yeah. Same deck. Great landscaping. Yeah.

Yeah. Catherine Trebel comes in through 120 miles an hour right away. Yeah. I was a dating him. I was fucking him.

Man. What do you approve? I'm an amateur. I wasn't in the mood last night, or he's sorry, he's dead. Yeah.

I like fucking him. Incredible. She's just thrown him off. Let's come in. You're talking this way.

That's seen that upset now. Well, she's that's part of the appeal of Catherine as a character. She is so utterly in command and assured. And there's something disarming and terrifying about it, but also something so appealing. So like the whole movie, the thriller, the the erotic thriller aspect is a cat and mouse chase.

We're like the mouse wants to be caught. So that he can fuck Catherine. Mm. Right.

“And you have to understand that like immediately.”

What you do. Then we have another rewatchable scene.

The second house visit to the car ride, which includes her changing.

That's how we know she's not wearing underwear. Uh, they're in the car. I don't smoke. Yes, you do. I quit.

Congratulations. All of a sudden she has cigarettes. What's your new book about? An detective. He falls for the wrong women.

What happens? He kills her. Yeah. Douglass is like, I'm fucking in. (laughter)

This is, I am all the way in. Good shot of uh, what part of the same fiscal we're in there? Well, they were driving up to Stinson, but the house in real life is in Carmel, but they're driving up to Stinson. Okay.

Which shots out Scott Natalia got married in Stinson Beach. They're here somewhere. There they are. Uh, next scene is the police room scene. Yeah.

One of us. I think the most famous scenes of the 90s. And we also have Newman from Sinfield.

“The netty Harris from Major League of Marys.”

Sure, now. The fact away, which I don't know if it's true, that Spielberg hired him off of this is unreal. (laughter) That was Spielberg's take away from the scene.

(laughter) He's the rest of the park. I got that guy. (laughter) Brad.

What are you gonna do to arrest me? It was recipe for smoking. Good luck. Johnny liked to use his hands too much. I like hands and fingers.

Another quote. (laughter) Have you ever fucked on cocaine, Nick? It's nice. Econic.

It's not how she says it. It's not how she says it. (laughter) It's not how she says it. It's not how she says it.

Everybody who she does. He's like, "Eat us!" (laughter) And then I was in the poor atmosphere. (laughter)

And then I was in the poor atmosphere. And then I was in the poor atmosphere. It's the poor atmosphere. It's the poor atmosphere. It's the poor atmosphere.

It's the poor atmosphere. He's dead. (laughter)

which became... (laughter)

They got the most famous moment of the 90s in a movie.

I'm trying to think what's bigger. (laughter) (laughter) (laughter) (laughter)

(laughter) Biggest holy ship moment. (laughter) Until I was like, I remember my dad resting piece dad. Dad was like...

(laughter) (laughter) (laughter) Boy, go back a couple of seconds, now. (laughter)

(laughter)

“I honestly think, and when I watched it, I caught out.”

I've never looked. This is one of the most well-written scenes of the 90s. (laughter) So when you think about the movie, right? The movie is about basic...

You guys think about it to be freaky.

I'm about to be like, okay, okay, let me cook for a second.

The movie, basic instinct, it's about primal urges, right? Things that you cannot control. Yeah. But the movie only works if you understand how dangerous the Catherine is. Yes.

And how much he can't resist her. So that scene is in conflict because that scene has to establish how dangerous she is. But it also can't betray the fact that we see how dangerous she is. All of these police officers see how dangerous she is.

And he still has to be primarily drawn to her. So she has to go there and be smarter than everybody in the room. Otherwise, so does the audience. Exactly. Exactly.

For us as well. She has to go there and be smarter than everybody in the room. But if she is smarter than everybody in the room, it breaks the deal with the audience because then you go, well, we know that she is the murderer and know that she is gaining them.

Why would he still want her? Then she lets that tang out. Yeah. And let me tell you something right now to all the ladies and the audience.

“If you want to end the argument or the speculation, let that tang out.”

If you let that tang out, you win. All right. Stop playing the game. I want to play MLB. Let that tang out.

You're just a game. Okay. And so when that happens, that reenjects this primal urge into the scene. And it completely wipes his mind and our mind and everybody else. He got to go get that thing.

And Newman violated some HR laws, I think. Newman's like, well, I was going to hit this in unanswerable questions, but he's not in the movie after that. It's like, did seeing cameras, but giant a kill. Yeah.

Yeah. He's just a drop-fucking dead. Yeah. In the bathroom stall, cranking one out, 10 minutes after that. Everyone else is looking at the live detector.

And it's like, you can beat the machine. No, you can't beat the machine. Newman is dropping dead after having seen cameras flashing. She's not in the director's cut. She makes an early impression.

And that's it.

“I think dance point is really important because like, there are.”

There are five dudes in that interrogation for no reason other than that every. She like, they're all wrapped, right? And so the fact that the trick of that in addition to the very obvious one is that she is like in command and they're in her power. Even though she is so clearly should be the one who's like, what is happening?

That scene is lit. The way it's staged, like that doesn't look like an interrogation room at all, right? It looks like she's like on display at a gallery. So there was controversy about that scene. Yes.

That we should mention. She said it was filmed without her knowledge. It turned into a, he said she said that. I forget what year that the starter. Yeah.

And Stone says that they asked her to take her underwear off because it was affecting the lighting. I mean, yeah, and then she saw a cut and her and her lawyer Marty Singer.

We're going to basically stop the movie from coming out.

They were going to, and then she just, but then she was like, you know what? Like I signed up from it. That is me. And she decided to do it, but not without reservations. And then it wasn't in the script either.

And very open. Pervy Dutch guy remembered something similar happening when he was in college and decided to weave it in. Anyway. Cool college story.

Yes. Records stretch. Quick, quick one. Was he college and she took that thing out? And I stopped playing.

I thought, hey, FIFA. And that is the end of the argument. Hang out. Sorry, ladies. Fans down with the Dutch.

The car chase is really good. Just wanted to mention that. Really good. She kind of does some of the car chase. Yeah.

Come on, shooter. Nick, you have a Porsche or something like that. A Lotus. A Lotus. Nick stops by Catherine's place and she uses the ice pick and does the, how much cook should

do Nick.

She's making out rocks in front of him. That's his good. Yeah. And all the papers are there, right? So he starts to realize and that sequence.

Like how much she knows about him, how she's studying him. Yeah. And then she stops by Nick's place. She does the ice pick thing for him. Shooter.

Now he's smoking. He says, you know the wheels are coming off. He's drinking. He's ordering doubles at the bar. He's smoking.

And now we're going to my favorite scene. Nick goes to the net club. We get the song we played earlier. Blue by. What was that?

It was a tour tour tour tour. Yeah. Nick's the oldest guy in the club. I'm going to say 16 years. And he's wearing a V-neck shirt.

He's on-gave him for Christmas in 1985. Exactly. Yeah. I have a word in this yet.

“And it goes into the bathroom, which is, has anyone ever been in a bathroom like this?”

There's 50 people in the bathroom. They're all doing cocaine. They're playing like cards. I don't know what bathroom is this. Most of the characters on industry.

We were talking about this last night. This is like a regular third episode of a season of industry. Yeah. I know, band is fucking quiet right now. I'll just tell you.

It's a band you. What happened? Okay. Roxy is throwing, I think, 130 miles an hour in the scene. Oh, yeah.

The catcher's been actually breaks. Yeah. She breaks the bed. Yeah. And Douglas is, again, I'll put this against Jim Carri and Dumb and Dumber.

I'll put this against my parents. And so I married an expert. Name a funny movie. Nothing's funnier than Douglas in this scene. And to be sexy.

I'm not too old to be here. Dance guy. [ Laughter ]

“The only thing that could have been funnier is if he danced.”

Yeah. But he makes the choice to be like, what would this guy do with this club? Seeing all this shit. This is like every primal instinct coming out. And he's just like, I would just stand there.

So you're watching, you're like, this has to be the unintentionally funniest thing that's going to happen with Michael Douglas in this movie. Think again. [ Laughter ] Because we go to the sex scene where he also gets up after and wins the William Peterson.

Honestly, dude, I'm not sure we needed to see your balls. [ Laughter ] Does it twice? Does the walk? Talks to Roxy?

Does the Lemme ask you something, Roxy? Man, the man. Then does the pivot? And does another walk? He's like, did he see my balls through him?

But crack, yeah. I did. Here they are again. And he's just feeling it. And the side dick before that.

So this is what happens when you've made 10 straight years of $100 billion movies.

You just start walking around. Completely naked. In the bathroom. This is just the tour to force. Anything to add about before we move on?

Hmm. I think this is a very important scene. We've talked about the side dick. The oral sex face. Watching the blow job and the mirror.

“I think the fact that in terms of just actually the clues,”

not that you're really thinking about the clues. It is like beat for beat parallel to what we saw in the boss scene. Right. You're very titillated by what you're seeing. But you're like, is he going to get stabbed by a nice bit?

Great. And like he's really a new one. Really a new one. Yeah. The headboard has like the slats so that she can tie him up.

Bricks out the air maze. Or permis as it is called in this film. A astonishing stuff. Scarf out the ties him up.

It's just start to finish pretty incredible.

The tearing of the backlash. I think that these are some of the most gutteral orgasms sounds ever committed to the public record on film. And you know, when I was younger watching this for the first time, I was like, it reminds me of how I think people today read like fourth wing. Or a court of thorns and roses and like I'm taking notes.

Okay. This is how you could do something to like lead to a 27 page chapter about going down on your girlfriend on a throne. Got it. People were watching this studying it and trying to learn that. It's like the girlfriend is also like a dragon fairy or anything.

Yeah. Well, there are fairies and court of thorns and roses. And I can tell you've read them. Dragon writers and fourth wing. And this is what it looks like. Now is like a middle-aged person.

And like the angling of the back. I'm like, is she about to like turn into the guinea? Like, I just worry about everybody's pain. See them looking into the mirror up top. I'm like, if I had that now, I would just say like, are my hips properly aligned.

So that I'm not going to wake up with lower back pain. It's a very different relationship as you age.

It's an amazing athletic performance.

Yes. It is. It is. Yeah, I don't know what his dick looks like the next day. But it's not going straight.

It's there's definitely a couple, couple turns.

Nick goes see Catherine the next day. And she kind of deflates the balloon a little bit. Yes. Roxy didn't know what she was in for. Oh, she seemed me fuck other guys.

Just like stick it into him.

“I think that was the fuck of the century.”

I thought it was a good beginning. So Nick came in at peace. He was the man. Yeah. Yeah.

I thought it was the fuck. He's so funny. He's got a sweater. He changed. I can't remember.

He's the smother. All of a sudden he's become Benny Zuko. Like he went from me like a real cop. Tonight he's the coolest motherfucker in the world. She's like, yo, dog, pump the brakes.

I used to fuck a boxer. Like he means like get that fuck out of here. And then just the ending with the twist where you think she's going to kill him. I think those are all the rewatchable scenes. What do you got here?

What's your most rewatchable? Nightclub 100 out of 100. I mean, the sex scenes cool, but like the nightclub has so much going on. I love that the drug dealer gets to dance with them that he's like, yeah, you know, like, kiss and coke.

Can I join you? Hey, that black guy is in every 90s movie. For some reason, they got a nigga with a flat top and a vest. No shirt. Who knows all the choreography to everything.

It's that guy comes back, Glenn Plumber plays that guy in show girls. He comes black. He's dancing with a random white girl.

I tell you that guy, I never saw him in Baton Rouge.

“So we have the nightclub scene and where do you have now?”

I think it's fuck at the century. I across the course of my life diagram, that like I'm scoring a baseball game. Yeah. Like, that's what it's got to be that. I'm not really speaking the entire history.

You should see it. Wow. My entire history. Okay. But like also, but like the triple horn scene, right?

Which is obviously a very, I'll make a moment where it's a controversial scene. It's problematic. Yeah. It's a very problematic scene, but like he runs. That's the first time we really see them together.

Yeah. And it's like very, it shows that legitimately the moment that he meets Catherine, his character changes immediately. It becomes like, once again, more primal, like more driven by whatever this thing is in his body that he can't control. What's the most 1992 thing about this movie?

What do you have here? That's got Bart Simpson. Yeah. Teaching. Yeah.

Yeah. Mistaken for a bit. It's different. It's different. It's different.

It's different. Yeah. Have one thing? Yeah. So in this movie, only the attractive people have sex.

So there are a bunch of people in the movie. But only the people that look good haven't sex. If they made this movie right now, they'd be a random scene of horse hitting something from the back. Right. But in this movie, like, the desire of people,

Desire people that have sex and everybody else is a bunch of fucking post-traumy eating cops. They get to go, or you fuck that last night's shooter. We like, like, but in this now, we have democratized sexing. So the horse would have got to get down with the horse and rocks.

He would have had the little situation if it was happening to him.

This is an amazing point.

Because to the guys on the force, Nick is Austin Butler. Like, they're so fucking gross. They're like, they're even happy when they're like, Nick is breaking every law. But god damn, man. I have a couple of 1992 things.

Quitting cocaine for three months. Yeah. Yes. Those green police computer screens really bring me back to the 90s. When you're just trying to read,

“I honestly would go blind if you looked at those things for too long.”

But some of the prompts they're writing at are kind of chatGPT. Were they like, yeah, I'm 1967. And it's like, oh, okay. Calling a condom, a rubber. Sure.

Yeah. So very 90s to me. I don't think we say rubber in the same way anymore. I was 12. And then Sharon Stone hosted the April 1992 Saturday and live to promote this movie with musical guests.

Pro Jim. No first.

First that's an up performance.

Look at that. And they look like they're like 22 years old. So there you go. Yeah. I was warned by multiple people not to say San Fran apparently.

It's that annoying habit. The San Francisco people don't like. So do you have a nickname for San Francisco or no? Frisco. SF.

What do you say Craig? SF probably. So when someone said San Fran, you're just like, fuck this person.

Yeah. And by the way, fuck you guys. I was like, like, I said it. And I'm Logan's right there. I was trying to, like, shout out.

Everybody give it up a Logan murder. Oh, right. They're like, I said it when I was trying to fucking compliment you. I said, nobody told me that shit. I didn't get the email.

So first go to city all of that shit.

Shout out to y'all. I don't get it. Uh, we mentioned this earlier for Wood Sage Best. One of the great cigarettes smoking movies ever made to earth. Yeah.

Who would you give if we could only hand out one Sean Penn. I brought my own pack award for excellence. So not screen smoking. Would you go stone or Douglas? Douglas?

Because you, you can see that the cigarette is the highway to help for him. Oh. Interesting. I feel like it's the cigarette that unlocks everything. I have more Wood Sage Best.

But what do you got now? Well, I just I'm shocked you didn't say the first shot of Catherine on the deck that we spent so much time talking about. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good strategy.

It draws your attention to the jagged rocks. The danger of the person and the setting all of it. Um, let's see. The score you already mentioned is quite good. Uh, the dog, the nudity, the explicit sex.

Sharon Stone.

We've talked about all of it.

“I think I think the way props are used like objects.”

You mentioned the key ring. Obviously the ice picks. The hand ties. The ceiling mirrors. The matching Picasso's.

There are these like little aspects of every setting that really become central drivers of the plot in a nice way. I got one. Yeah. A man fucking with women who will eventually destroy them. So.

This will be should be required viewing for anyone who's thinking about day in the Kardashian Timmy. Oh. Yeah. I know it seems good now, brother. Yeah.

When I was there for nine years, it's not going to work out. I had a Johnny Bosn's apartment, which has a Picasso. Yeah. Yeah. Catherine has a Picasso.

So don't made service. Yeah. Um, I had like, I really like Michael Douglas. I have down his, his hesitation. I can't believe this broad laughs that he does where he's just like.

Drinking a paper. Yeah. It's like his, his little weird flirty thing. Something that Nick Catherine exchanges. Fuck, like, makes raise regrets live happily ever after.

Like, there's just like good screenwriting stuff in this. And then, uh, now I can't believe he'd have mentioned this.

“Well, she got that Mac to cut a lot of pussy under that.”

That's the prime of the brain. Yeah. Uh, just some of the George Zunza. Yeah. He plays.

He plays Gus. And Chris. Gus like, you know, he's dead the moment you see him. You're like, oh, yeah. You guys overweight.

He's a buddy. Yeah. He's going to drink too much. He'll make it. You do the pool of just going to be 18 minutes left.

I'll be dead. You know what's happening? Uh, pre-tech San Francisco. Yeah. I would also put in there.

San Francisco. I used to come here a lot in the 90s because some of my best high school college friends lived there. And San Francisco was fucking awesome in the 90s. And it was, uh, a great place for young people. It was just, it was really cool.

And obviously, has gone through a lot of transformations over the years. But, uh, just seeing it. Don't make a face, man. It was easy to get into the propaganda. The fucking shit is beautiful.

I see that fucking building. [ Cheers and applause ] What's that? What's that pointy building? What's it called?

The pointy way. From Star Trek.

“Do you know the name of the pointy work?”

I see that bitch. Transmere. Whatever the fuck. I like, I saw that. I was like, oh, man.

This shit is crazy. [ Laughter ] Are we done with what's at your best? Come here, move on. We had one thing, which was, it takes, like, for me,

it took a bunch of viewings to notice this. Is there is a brief moment when Douglas goes to, uh, Beth's house. He's like, come in. And he's like, oh, my lock is broken.

Yes.

And it's like, basically, the only detail you get that

Katherine has set Beth up. This entire time. And it's like, placing articles in a house. And she got about that revolver behind the book. Yes.

Change blocks. Maybe, but, like, it's a great, otherwise the whole movie almost falls apart at the end. Which it kind of doesn't. Yes.

[ Laughter ] Did you have another great chat, Gordo? For Best Chat? Uh, there's a bunch of really cool shit in here. On the bonds really good.

But the push-in on Katherine saying, I'd have to be pretty stupid to write a book about killing and then kill them the same way I described in my book, like, and she's saying it to the audience where it's, like, almost breaking the fourth wall.

Right. Uh, we have, we don't get to give this out a lot. The Amanda Dobbins award for Best Piece of Real Estate. Katherine's house. Yes.

Uh, so the exterior is in Stinson Beach, and then the interior stuff was in Carmel by the sea, which is not that close to her. Um, about 35 mil right now for this one. Um, Great Bay Window, Great Deck.

Easy access to a completely scary beach. Yeah. Just do it, babe. It just feels like you can dive. It's really going to work.

Uh, CRU have a Flex category. What do you got?

I feel like the Ed Norton Reverse Donk Award

did this movie need a random sports scene. [laughter] There's a little bit of Niners, like, at the end, like, at the diner and stuff.

“But could we not get George Seaford in this movie somehow?”

[laughter] Did you just look at that page? What do you mean, like, Nick goes to, like, a Niners practice? It has, like, young Montana. Like, Gus has lost a ton of money on the Niners.

Yes. Like, yeah. Oh, I got one. Karen used the fuck somebody on the Niners. [laughter]

Oh, Karen. Katherine. I'm trying. Katherine used the, like, he'll, why want me Karen, whatever. Um, so she used the fuck somebody on the Niners,

so they go to interview him. And this Jerry Rice says. [laughter] And the name of her new novel is Rice. Right, yeah.

Mallory, you don't get a Flex because you have your own award. The Mallory Ribbon Award for, did this movie need a better sex scene? Oh, shit.

Okay. Well, like, a third of the runtime is sex scenes, basically, right?

We have the opening buzz scene. We have Nick, I'll incorporate some just nudity that's very central as well. Nick, watch and Katherine change in the mirror for the first time. The Nick Beth rapesine. Uh, we could make that better by not having it or not doing it that way, I'd say.

Um, Nick, watch and Katherine change again through the large, beautiful picture windows

“that you were just, uh, commenting on with the real estate, right?”

And reasonable to assume that she knows he's there. So put a pin in that, I'll be coming back to that in a second. We've got the fuck in the century. The fireplace chase scene. So this, this, we entered a different point of the movie now where we're like,

not seeing the sex. Right. They bring us out. Make love to me. And then we cut and they're cuddling in front of the fire.

It's like, this is not the movie that I signed up to watch. Why am I not seeing every second of that? And it ends up being very relevant because that's when she's planting the Lisa. Not gets about Beth in this vulnerable moment. Then we get Katherine at Nick's apartment.

So nudity.

And then again, we don't see the sex scene insane.

And then we cut to them cuddling in the window and she didn't have enough sex. I think that there are a couple opportunities in the established sequence of the film to just show us all of the sex again, which I would have supported. And then, of course, the final sex scene, which once again mirrors the buzzbeats. She's spine bending maneuvers.

And then the forward thrust and then like, okay, she didn't kill him. So here are my suggestions. Give us the full sex scenes in the ones we cut away from the making of, to me, fireplace, chairs, and the window, nook. But I think for like the fourth or fifth rewatchables in a row.

So this is something I'm going to reflect on later. I would like to suggest that the movie include a masturbation scene. Because it actually doesn't make sense that that's missing. And I think when Nick follows his...

“Well, yeah, I'm like, how does Nick's dick have skin on it?”

If his hand has that many calluses on it. Like, you're some lotion, my guy, come on. But I'm talking about Katherine. Naturally, he follows her home. Someone said, yes.

Somebody said, yes. You have been there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He follows her home. And she is... She just immediately gets undressed.

Drapes are open. Giant window. She definitely knows he's there. Because he is the worst tail in the history. Yeah, he really is.

He's terrible. Point in the movie, does he follow somebody, and they don't know that he's behind them. So she knows he's there. And purposefully, she gets undressed in front of the window. Leave the lights on.

And then as she walks away, turn the lights off. Which I think is confirmation that she knows he's watching. There's a couch right there. Go for it. Right?

He throws a solo action. Yes. And then we'll make it a Newman scene as well. A Newman scene. Let's see.

Yes. Real toss up. Let's see. There's a Newman jack-off for Katherine, Master Beat. I'm going to blend it on her couch.

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“I think another bit of evidence to support this theory is that Hazel”

canonically killed her husband and three children. She is a mass murderer, a child's liar. It is established on the aforementioned computer that she was in jail for nine years for that. That joker thing is out after six.

That's like so insane. She split their throats with a razor. Actually, there's a couple of years. I'm not taking nets. I'm not taking nets.

Short prison sentence for whipping out your family. This is a two American scene. That tracks kill her whole family. She gives out nine years. I know because in jail, 55 years for me.

That's rare. It is guilty. Is it the weak link of the movie, the DNA evidence thing though?

It's actually like, I agree that we just want to watch the movie and have fun.

But it is actually disqualifying. Like DNA evidence had been in practice since the 80s. This movie is said in 92. There's just absolutely no crisis. This guy is a murderer involved.

Everybody flew in. That you could possibly excrete. How are they not finding the kid? Can I count on this? Please.

“Because I had this in what stage is the worst.”

Not weakest link. Okay. Just because 10 years later, the DNA, she's done in five minutes. But if you remember the OJ trial in 95, people still, we barely knew what DNA evidence was.

People are like, they didn't even really believe it. Well, because he didn't do it. Anyway. So. Okay.

But no, but the DNA is kind of on. So you go in the sun. Like the DNA is kind of rendered to focus by the fact that she admits that she has sex with the guy. Yeah.

She says that she has sex with him. And she says over and over again, it had sex. So her being connected to him is not necessarily the finger prints of the ice pack. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. There's stuff that they would. She's not covered in blood. Her clothing doesn't have a trace of the blood.

She's an awkward pain. She's covered when he comes over. Yeah.

“That's, I don't think that's how it works.”

I just say if you come in a murder one day, as a friend and person who loves you, don't just shower and think you're going to get away with it. Yeah. It's so funny.

Yeah. That's so funny getting the call from see all of that. I took a shower on the fine. Come down time. I did something I wasn't supposed to do, man.

Bring a bar of irispring. [LAUGHTER] That's just, get me out of this. Oh, it will help you. This is, so what's the use of the words for me?

I don't have that. Wait. I'm the, I got it in my weekly. Oh, you guys, you're awake, sir. By the way, Vanna.

I think you'd be one of my three calls. I don't know where you rank. Hey, bro. Who's call? We take it.

[LAUGHTER] We call it, I believe it. [LAUGHTER] So I had a, I had a less auspicious week length. So Nick, Michael Douglas's character.

Attacks, Nielsen, the internal affairs guys that he gave up the files. Right? So in front of like 30 cops. Yes. Has to be restrained.

He's like ready to fight him. Six hours later, the guy's shot in the head. And they're like, hey, shooter, we're going to need your gun. Bill, he's not in jail. I'm saying, glad you got this stuff, right?

This is what I don't think you caught in that scene, where he goes in the Nielsen's office. When he goes in the Marty's office, and he starts like jumping on him. Marty's boss pulls a gun.

It's just, yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] That's a girl affair. It's insane. There's no fucking office, man.

What a movie. All right, what takes you away? Switch your apps here. Well, so what's the use of worst is the fact that we know too much. We would be talking about DNA evidence.

storytelling. Back then, they were like, yeah, three months ago, this Narkil Tutorus follows high on code. Now, fucks his therapist. Let's promote him to homicide detective.

And have him drive the suspect who the two of them have been making fuck me eyes at each other throughout this completely inappropriate interview. Do you know each other? Yeah.

My idea is Nick. Find out where Katherine needs. Yeah. And then he abandoned his responsibilities all together. It's fucking amazing.

Watching it at the time.

I was like, this is incredible.

Watching it now.

“You're like, I think there would probably be some reviews.”

[LAUGHTER] We mentioned the first sex scene is, uh, I gotta say problematic now, but in 1992, wasn't not problematic. Like it was a big thing when it happened.

It was just a weird choice. I don't really get it. So this really bugs me. This is could be an epic, but it's really what Sage of Wires.

So they put together the Jean Triple Horn, also went to college, was Sharon Stone's character. And they put the photo ID. And she's got a blind wig in the photo ID, but it's the exact same photo as her now.

Yeah. And it was like, this movie cost $59 million. And then she's like, hey, what are we going to do with the photo? And they just, like, photo shot. Yeah.

I just don't understand it.

It's such an unforced error.

Great. What else did you have any of what Sage of Wirespan? No, I was all about the way Shares Stone was right there. Did you have any more, Mel? I think that the, we've alluded to this,

but like the, beyond just the general kind of shot he worked from the SFPD, the solving of the murder. They're like that jacket fit. Yeah.

So it was back. She's got a bunch of articles in her book.

“Did you have that says where she works on the back of it?”

Which is definitely a choice you'd make as a murderer fit. So it's her. I mean, that's just absolutely ludicrous. I had, I had that in depicts, but the same thing. They go to the, they go to the best kitchen drawer.

They open up. There's all the scrapbook stuff. Yeah. And the guy goes, well, I guess that's it. Yeah.

Walkers like this. Yeah. Yeah. - No, it is guilty. - What are you gonna call her?

- Always keep a full binder of chronologically ordered

and criminating evidence in their kitchen drawer. Always. - Praise to you. - Always. The speed of the elevator in that sequence also ridiculous and the fact that Nick has just had this very dramatic moment where he's looking at the two covers.

Oh, which will they go with? And he sees the paragraph about the detective's partner being found in the elevator. And then Gus shows up and is like, "But I got a call from Katherine's freshman year roommate.

Let's go." And Nick's like, "Sounds good." That all seems credible, let's do it. And then he's like, "I'm just gonna go inside." A few floors up the elevator that you just read about.

And Nick's like, "Cool. Good luck." - Yeah. He just read the page on the printer. - And then he's killed shortly thereafter in the exact scenario that was described in the pages. He just read. Nick, terrible.

- No, that's like Beth doesn't have blood on her hands at the end. - I had a-- - Crazy. - The last 40 minutes is of what's aged the worst. They kind of got he out of some of the stuff, but I love this movie, but--

- If you stab someone with an ice pick, that many times in the jugular in an elevator, you have some blood on your head. - Yeah, you're-- - Yeah. And then I had the rip-off erotic thrillers

that came after this, that we're all pretty bad.

“I think the worst ones probably color night,”

especially because Bruce Willis pooled penis on a 70-foot screen. Wasn't really looking for that in 1995? - Well. - Um. - I'm really excited for this next category. - The Ruflo-Hanna Rubeneparcher Jover acting word.

Obviously goes to Michael Douglas. Who has-- he does this thing where he says the line, but then yells the last two words, so it's like, "Who has access to my goddamn files?" What is this, some kind of joke?

(laughing) - This was his anger, Michael Douglas. - This is right, me man. - Yeah. - Look at your fucking teeth in.

- I just love it. All right, bands flex. So you have to do how would band-aid, but how would band-lating get out of this one, which is in a word we have sometimes.

- So as Beth or as Nick. - I think you could be, you could be any of the three characters here. How would band get out of this one? - Pick a character, just go.

- I'm gonna get out of what though. - I don't know how would band-lating get out of this. - All right, you're Beth. How about your Beth? - So I'm Beth.

So I'm gonna be Nick, right? - Okay, be there. (audience laughing) - So I'm Nick and, you know, they're asking me like, "Why I'm hanging around Catherine?"

What a reality is this, you say I don't read enough. The woman's an author, okay? You say I play the game too much, you say that I'm too obsessed with the dog,

you say I'm on the computer too much, this woman's an author, she's written books,

and what I'm trying to do is deepen my understanding of literature.

Now here's the deal. If this was a male writer, you wouldn't have any problem with it. (audience laughing) So it's a female writer.

So while you're looking at me,

“what I think you actually need to look at is the mirror,”

because the reality is, this is a woman, so you feel threatened. I don't feel threatened around women, because I am power women. (audience laughing)

I believe in female writers, I believe in female creators, and this is a female creator. I believe in her, so I'ma keep hanging around her,

you deal with your things, thought to doubt to cross me on Thursday. (audience laughing) (audience cheering) Now's it, every time.

Gaslight. The CR, the CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how to stake a word.

So I was working on something.

I told you earlier, I was like, I have a hardest take, but I haven't landed the plane yet. I think the plane still circling the airport. Is this movie a perverted man's version

of Gilligan's Island, where the professor is caught in between the psycho-sexual dealings of ginger and marion? (audience laughing) Or the CR is panting during to the audience award

for safest home field takes, except to go as the best movie city. (audience laughing) The suck-up take, I like it. Now do you have one?

“I think Catherine is a pretty generous murderer.”

(audience laughing) Oh yeah. (audience laughing) I mean, cocaine on the penis. (audience laughing)

Sure you're alive to see the ice pick penetrate your nose, your neck, a couple other parts of your body, but you're shooting your load inside of her while it's happening.

(audience laughing) Not bad. Give me the mirror. Yeah, that's fair. Fulfill.

You could just kill them. Exactly. What do you got then? You scratch my back during the fuck section this over. Okay.

(audience laughing) I know that we, I've had this conversation since 1999. Hey, bro, I was in that shit like crazy dog. She was scratching my back up on my face. That's it. It's over. It's done.

I don't even like spicy food, I'm like pain. (audience laughing) You're like, you're like, you bite my neck too hard. And you know, on Garthau, I feel you chill. (audience laughing)

All right.

“I'll scratch his shit, like Wolverine is seeing that, you know?”

Yes. And it's my focus. (audience laughing) Oh, God. Whatever.

Hey, what's the focus room with you? It's true what they say about you. No, I don't scratch my shit. (audience laughing) Mine, I don't know how to prove this.

I think this is the single worst cop performance ever by a cop in the movie. Yeah. So, we get to meet Nick. He's off cocaine for three months.

Yep. Yep. Three months. It's celebration. Let's have a party.

He's killed four tourists in the last five years. Yeah. Yes. But each time it was undercover for drugs, so it's fine. Some I got promoted to see our mention.

He's asked to trail this suspect. Immediately falls of love with her and goes down the psycho-sexual path. Yes, this is his mind. Luzes is his badge.

And then ends up shooting his girlfriend. Mars is his therapist. After he made his girlfriend go up to reenact the page of a book that he just read. Crazy. Let's take a kill up.

Yeah. Shoots his girlfriend. And then somehow gets away with it and he's back on the streets. I mean, this is like the real dirty Harry. This is his dirty Harry.

It's dirty Harry. Yeah. Terrible cops. Casting what ifs. I mentioned Kim Basinger, Meg Ryan turned it down.

Gina Davis turned it down. Ellen Barkin. I'm amazed. She turned it down. Marilyn Hemingway turned it down.

And then it was Demi Moore versus Sharon Stone. And Sharon Stone won. By far, the funniest casting. What if is that Emma Thompson auditioned for Catherine? Yeah.

I didn't know what to make of that. Did you believe that? I auditioned for Catherine. Yeah. Yeah.

Allegedly in one of the original scripts Nick Kern was originally a lesbian cop written with Kathleen Turner in mind. And then they switched it. Paul Verhoven was supposed to direct black rain. Which will be in the rewatchables.

Yeah. So when in 2026. Yeah. But dropped out to do total recall.

And then I thought this was amazing.

Verhoven wanted Tom Peringer for Robo cop and base against things. And barrengers like no thanks. Yeah. Yeah. You're a weird, perfect Dutch guy.

I'll be doing sniper instead. Yeah. Milo's form and was the first choice to direct and do it. And then I don't know what to believe with who is considered for Nick. It was basically every way to actor from.

That's 72.

We're Linda Fiorentino as Beth. And this is insane. But Brook Shields is Roxy. Yeah. Saw that.

It's just there's no way. Yeah.

She just never would have done it.

Best that guy word. Newman and eligible. Groundhog guy. The groundhog day guy. Stephen Tablowski.

He's an eligible. Yeah. Dickie Greenleaf's dad. The principal headmaster from Centerwoman James Rephorn. An eligible.

Why is he an eligible? Because he's James Rephorn. He's an eligible. He's an eligible.

“You have to say the guy from Groundhog day.”

Yeah. He's like, would it take a guy? Yeah. I think Roxy wins the deck I word. No.

If you see her, you think it's Roxy. No, it's not her. You're changing the definition. I think it's like you. That guy.

You're changing the definition. So many times. And you're like, that guy. We never see Roxy again. It's okay.

He's a thunder. Right. Who would the most amount of people in this room be like, Oh, that guy. When they see him on screen.

So probably James Rephorn. That's fine. What about? Okay. So there's this chair.

Okay. Jack McGee. Who plays the sheriff. He's also in. Yes.

In screws. A young. Yes. I was says he had a minute amount of cocaine on the penis. In the race.

Chelsea Ross. I'm a team player. You can give it to whoever you want. Can we give Roxy the damn way? Or is it worth that?

Definitely. No question. So is this a Hall of Fame, damn way?

“I really become really obsessed with these”

Instagram videos where it'll be like, Yeah. Cam Chancellor being like, when I was out there. I was looking to kill. And then a fucking break song drops.

And it's just Cam Chancellor hits for like two and a half minutes. They should make one for Roxy.

Just with their footage and basically.

Oh, I forgot where I went. Yeah. But that. Um. Recast and couch director city.

So Hazel Dobbins does the character work better. If it's just Jacqueline Bissett. Just throwing that out there. Wow. Dead silence from the crowd.

No. Let's walk through Tom Cruise as Nick. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just, yeah.

I don't want to get in the car with this. But let's take a stroll around the block. A little younger. I think he brings the same amount on an intentional comedy. Definitely.

There's probably a running scene at one point. Probably across the Golden Gate. Yeah. Right. He's running the Golden Gate for no reason at all.

Yes. Yeah. We running Distance in Beach. We. Yeah.

David, we get to watch the car. I'll see you there. I'll run. We get to watch a smoke. Nothing would be funnier than Tom Cruise.

Rip it off. Barbara Reds. Don't be great. You're going to have sexual chemistry with Sharon Stone who's like working overtime. I would love that.

Him knew talking to Roxy in the bathroom. Yeah. New Tom Cruise. Let me ask you some Rocky. Man to man.

Him and the nightclubs scene. Like he's definitely going on in a nightclubs scene. He's going to fucking dance. Yeah. He's not going to be able to stay away.

The beat's going to fucking completely destroy him.

“Now I don't know if you want to imitate Tom Cruise in the kind of legacy.”

Yeah. This is turned into E.T. It's like E.T. coming out of the closet. I don't know. I can see it.

I see what you're saying. Yeah. So would you go Cruise or Douglas if you had to redo this? I feel like I would go Cruise. Oh, you got to go Douglas man.

Wait. I'm going to do this. All right. Fine. Craig, you have a Flex category.

Vincent Chase Award, are we sure this character was actually good at his job? Captain Tremel. Fantastic planner. Messy killer. Reckless stabber.

31 stabs on Johnny Bosch. Why? Why are you 30? I'm going to give it in there before. Jesus Christ.

He's dead after five. I thought you were actually going to say, "We don't know what kind of writer she was." Yeah. That too well.

I don't see was fast because she would just be like, "I don't know what I'm going to do." I want to next shooters done. Now we're going on to the next one. Also, in the script, it says only 16 stabs for some reason.

Up to 13 runs. Up to 13 runs. Then the real movie.

There is when she gives the copy of the first book about the kid who killed his parents

in the plane crash. There's like a news week blurb on there about what a master piece it is. And it does say on the top best seller. Oh, sure. All the more reason why it would be hard for her to be a mass murderer.

I mean, also leaving the ice pick and the scene of the crime. Like she's just buying ice pick. But that's a whole game, right? It's like it's the taunt. Yeah.

There are the, you know, I'm just waiting for the ice picks around. No regard for DNA. Messy. Reckless. I don't like it.

Vane, if you.

You got away with all of it. Vane, if you were dating her when you went to bed at night,

“would you check in different parts of the bed for the ice pick?”

Yeah. Just to make sure, which is just let it go. Now, when you date crazy, you like, you just put you by it. I would have like a metal detector that what, like, works like a room book. Going around looking for an ice pick all over.

Did you guys see that Sharon Stone literally as she was stabbing Bill Cable, the guy who played Johnny Bos stabbed him so hard. It went through the blood pack and pierced his skin and he went to the hospital. Too much. Wow.

She's committed. Get off me. Quick cap faster in our research. No body doubles used in any sex scenes. Yep.

We mentioned the five days to film the Big Sex scene. Douglass, the client to go full frontal. Yeah. In the film, which apparently he had in his contract. The patriarchy is so real.

Yeah. My contract. I'm not doing it. Side deck though. So.

The first sex scene with Douglass and Triple Horn.

It was the rehearsal scene. And creepy, pervert, her oven was like, that was good. Let's keep that as the main, and they didn't even know they were filming it as the real thing. Pretty weird. So huge guy.

Um, and then in Hollywood Animal, Joe Esther houses book. He claimed that he slept with Sharon Stone after the movie came out. Yeah. Cool. Sure.

Yeah. I don't think he was.

“Esther has wrote this movie over the course of ten days with no outline while listening”

to the stones, which is a great euphemism for uncooking. Yeah. Yeah. You can't tell. And then in the making of, I had to bring this up is for over describes Nick as quote,

a cop who has gone through some bad times. And it's done some things that we might consider wrong. [ Laughter ] He could have four murders. Got him all.

All right. No category, we didn't do. We didn't do. Does this movie need more black people? No.

There's a killer cop on it. He killed an ever pie. [ Laughter ]

Apex Mountain is another category we do.

Well, we decided if this was the peak of somebody's something. [ Laughter ] Got it. Controversal character category. Michael Douglas, I'm going to say no.

No. Sharon Stone, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, for sure.

Joester House, yes. Sealing sex mirrors. Good people. Oh. Has it been done better than this?

I don't think this is maybe the end of the peak of ceiling sex mirrors. Like, no, crimps brought it back. Cribbs brought it back?

“I think like three members of the trailblazers had the ceiling mirrors.”

I remember. Is that a rund-up definitely had it? [ Laughter ] San Francisco movies probably not. Probably not.

Yeah. A ratic thrillers. Yeah. Yes. Let's say yes, all right.

Freeze frame moments.

Like moments you pause on an empty--

Is that a dick freeze frame? Yeah. It goes to like-- Yeah. What is it for Jean Triple Horn?

Because it's probably the firm, right? Yeah. Is that like right around this time? Ninety-two's kind of like-- Yeah, it would be like--

Bricks out. Coke and Jack Daniels. Oh. Sure. Yeah, Pepsi and the French.

Elevator members. I'm going to go dressed to kill. Mm-hmm. Grittudes, bail actor, ass shots. I think maybe.

Oh, yeah. So there was a whole competition. So look, bust this. So he like-- Yeah.

So he had to show his butt. He had no problem. Right. He had a white butt competition. Right.

This is the apex of white butt competitions. Male Gibson's butt, lethal weapon. Kevin Costler's butt, Robin Hood. Bruce Willis's butt later on in color of night. Douglas was like, you know what?

I got the ass. Douglas's the stallion. Got to do it. I'm going to show you all that. I got that nasty hat to show his butt.

He probably wanted to show it. He lost 25 pounds for the thumb in the movie. He was great. That shape of his life. Yeah.

We don't get to give this a word all the time, but it's the fluid gun dolly. Hold on for a second. A pig's mouth. I got a couple of things. Oh, what do you got?

Icepicks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Icepicks.

Yeah. Thank you. The match is pointing icepicks. Let's tap it to all of you. We've corrupted you unless the 90 minutes.

Icepicks. Fucking your therapist. I think this was like way up there. Fucking your therapist, right here. That's a friend of us.

Also a friend of us. The friend of us. They never fought. The friend of us. The friend of us.

They fought. The friend of us. Friends of tides. I think you said the princess. Right.

Perfect. Yeah. Do you strike. Stries in a nalti have sex in friends of tides. I see.

Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah. Heaven with that went out. No way.

Women on top. Women on top. Women on top. Yeah. Like you know.

It might be. Yeah. We know y'all like that shit. It really actually feels. Yeah.

Like it's like. Like one on top.

She went. She wants to exert her power.

“She flips over and that's how she does her thing.”

One on top. The Floyd gun dolly. Butter in my ass and lolly pops up my mouth the word for something I just enjoy. Here you go. See our.

For me it's cops getting into deep. Now I'll leave a go a little further. When an unraveling and supposedly sober cop shows up at the police bar in order to double. Yeah. Yes.

And multiple cops go. Oh no. Here you go. They're drinking again. I'm in every time.

I just love it. Do you guys have any for that or should we keep going? Not wearing any underwear. So look. I love this.

Okay. Who told women to have to wear underwear? Mean. Don't listen. Okay.

Let that thing out. There's some saying. And also I'm going to be honest with you guys. I like doing it. Okay.

Last year I got a wax job. Yep. What's going on right now? He. He chronicled this on his podcast.

Last year I got a wax job. Very memorable. She was the entire thing. And like like three quarter went through the wax. She goes, I love what you do.

And I'm like, this is a little weird. But that's okay. Oh no. And after that it's just. It feels sexy though.

That is probably closer to the floor gun dolly. Like, essence of this category than we ever get. So Craig's on Craig's on LinkedIn right now. Look at him. Look at him around.

We don't get to give this award. Very much the he got game hooker scene for most awkward scene if someone randomly walks into the room. There's like five different scenes where your mother-in-law's coming down and you thought she was asleep. Yeah. Yeah.

Pickin' it. Why didn't Johnny Bos' corpse have a rigor mortise boner? Did it?

“I mean, that's why you have the computer.”

When you die, don't you just die like everything's intact? I don't know if it's like getting frozen and carbonate.

It's like the second your heart stops or like.

Are we sure it's not though? Do we have a doctor in now? It is a thing, a death erection. But he doesn't have an erection. Thank you.

No. Thank you. Third batch action. We added Hazel Dobbins. Get out of jail.

That's crazy. She served her time for husband and three kids gone. Let's let her out. I have a few more but see her, you have any? I mean, when does Katherine write?

Oh, I had this too. She wrote shooter in two weeks. Yes. She's right. In a matter of weeks and she boasts most of the time is having sex doing cocaine

or driving around San Francisco. Or hanging out at Nick's doorstep. We're in firm to come up with. You're like, hey, got your house plant. You know, horrific, right?

Yeah. She's a genius. She is. Okay. I got one.

Yeah.

The first time they have sex.

You know, this big, he spoons her. Nick, is your girl now? He's in love with her. So that's all that. Now, spawning is for Sunday.

We watch an Avengers in-game on TNT. Yeah. It turns out the whole fucking afternoon. You do not spoon the cycle killer girl that you are investigating. He wants to.

He noses up next to her. Put his hand over. She calls me. What the fuck is up with you? Oh, boys.

You're spawning? That quick. Super has motherfuck. CR. That was it.

By picking it was really about Catherine's writing. Malia, have any?

“Uh, I think the fact that Nick gets hit by a moving vehicle.”

That Roxy drives a lotus into him. And he is unaffected. He like shakes his head once. And he gets behind the wheel. Like, that's the concussion protocol.

One head shake. No blood. No injuries. No blood. No blood on her.

This car being torn. No injuries. Yes. Crazy. ludicrous.

Why didn't Johnny Bos give all of his money to her?

Why was she the only one available to get the $100 million?

Was that who she got? I thought she got it from her parents. Yeah. Yeah. It was Bos's money.

Went to her after he died. No. Maybe. I think she got it from her parents. Yeah.

Yeah. She got some.

So. Beth. Yeah. As a nitpick. She falls for the broke cocaine using alcoholic with one friend who shoots

people randomly once a year. And just had his wife kill herself.

“And she's like, when you go on a dinner tonight, would you like to come?”

Her dying words are I loved you. Yeah. This was it for Beth. Was this guy's 20 years older than her? She's just like I address.

So this is like this is her cocaine. Yeah. Like a good time every night with Nick. This is consistent though. Yeah.

So in the departed, she falls in love. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And the sopranos is always this thing between Melphi.

Like what's going on with these therapists? I think they like that type of relationship. Like the danger. Any more nitpicks because I'm going to move on. That's a sequel prequel prestige to be all black cast or untouchable.

I'd like to have at least walk through all black cast. What is it? Because I feel like they have tried to make versions of this. What is it? There's the one with what's I'm trying to think.

I'll be out. Okay. What's your time on which one? Like obsessed. No.

It's the woman to alley-larter. Oh, obsessed. That's the call obsessed with Beyonce. Beyonce is the motherfucker. And, um, and is yourself.

There's nothing with making good. But they have been good. They have been pulled it off. They have been really pulled off. There's a thin line between the love and hate.

What actually takes place in the bay? Like with like with a Martin Lawrence and Lil Wiffield and stuff like that. It's tough. We don't like to pick the narcissist like that. You know what I'm saying?

I'm saying narcissist don't get obsessed. I should like that. Precious team. Because that works. To have the ability to explain the ending.

I don't. I mean, I guess you could. You could do it as prestige. TV. Yeah.

I will note. Would you go backwards to Berkeley with Beth and-- I would go back from many best his years. Yeah. The boxing show with Catherine as is his girlfriend.

But, you know, they made basic instinct too much more. Right. Uh, no. It's four of us. Please don't rent basic instinct.

And a year ago, uh, Joe Esterhoss, who is 80, um, reportedly sold a screenplay to Amazon

for $2 million that was going to be an anti-woke reboot of basic instinct.

Because basic instinct is too woke. Uh, and he gave this quote to those who questioned what an 80 year old man is doing writing a sexy erotic thriller. The rumors of my cinematic impotence are exaggerated and ages. I call my writing partner all caps.

The twisted little man. And he lives somewhere deep inside me. He was born 29. He will die 29. And he tells me sky high up to write this piece and provide viewers with a wild

and orgasmic ride. Do you want to see this? Yes. Yeah. We should have made you read that as Vincent Hannah.

Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins? Furg of the florist? Zainlow, or somebody else here. From nights of cocaine, fueled sex to days of shooting tourists, you've done it all. So what is it to get you fired up?

“Could it be the best selling author of mass market paperbacks?”

Uncrossing her legs in the interrogation room? And where does Nick current go from she? Incredible. Amazing. I was hoping you would do Wayne.

Give us a quick Wayne. Here's the context. Katherine is on a book tour. She's on to Baltimore and her book tour. Go.

What are you doing in Baltimore? On a book tour for her best seller. Oh, I was just going to say if Wayne was Gus, it would be like, "God damn Nick, you got twenty birds flying in your head!" Give us Magna Cooley.

And we'll see you in Baltimore accent. Do it. He's up for pain. Going down to the ocean, hon. Can I give you Ryan Rucco?

Please. Sure.

And that's it in the first scene in the movie.

Katherine's riding and now she's reaching back. Is she going for the ice pack? You bet. Shout out to Rucco. Just one Oscar who gets it.

Just one. Just one. All right. We all agree. Probably an answer to both questions.

“Dan, was it a big deal in Mani the Boxer died in the ring in 1984?”

Like, cover sports all stranded? Had to be a huge deal, right? Like, let sports center? Yeah. That felt like it was a big deal too.

That was also another really weird cop moment. Is when they're like, "Maybe if she put on Afro and did black face, she could be mad." And he's like, "What the fuck are you talking about?" As you can see, I was going to let it slide.

Well, how long until she kills them, right?

Because that's the answer. Like, is Nick still alive in 1995? No. No. Nick is died of a bass.

Nick's got a lot more to do. No. Nick's got a lot more to do. Yeah. He mentions Rugrats at the grocery store later that day.

Yeah. If he doesn't retract the Rugrats line, she's like, "I hate Rugrats." She kills him right then and there. No question. So, it's got to be just a matter of days.

“I'm always on the unanswerable questions and how long does he last front?”

Like, at what point is he like, "Let me see some more of your pages about this detective so that I can just avoid the exact scenario that you have crafted and live a little longer?" But he doesn't ask. I think Montana goes to the chiefs, Nick unravels. He's back on the Coke and then she just kills him because he's annoying.

Yeah. He just has. She stabs him that. Should she have just killed him at the ending? Is that a better ending?

No.

If she murders him and that's the end of the movie.

I don't think it would be like a fun theater going experience. If the last you see is Michael Douglas died. Maybe it would be, it just. But if the movie ends not with his actual death, but with her grabbing the ice pick. Like actual grabbing the ice pick.

Then you leave on something a little bit more. We do like the sopranos ending. I like it just like it is because it's there. She reaches for it. Then she retracts.

So there's enough to like, I mean, you want it to debate. Whether. I was curious. I mean, I think I really like, there's 8% of me. That's like, but Beth could have done it.

And Catherine also plays the ice pick just at the same time. Yeah. I like that this is your like spinning top at the end of inception. Yeah. You're like your back.

Was it moving? It's already for 30 years. Secret handshake club member Billy. You'd want from this movie. A copy of Love Hurt's by Catherine Wolf.

Ooh. Vinex shooter. The Vinex winner. The Vinex. Would you wear it?

I mean, if I had it. Yeah. What do you have, Craig? Um, those those giant red like seeming glasses that he wears. Yeah.

Yes. Now, as you have just got those on in the come over. Like, you know, these are from.

“I think Johnny Bos is a part of their cup.”

That's even better. New from Chrome Hearts. Um, what would you have then? Oh, what the ice be? Yeah, of course.

It's got to be the ice pick. Or the mirror or the ceiling mirror. Mow. The storyboards. Well, I mean,

Oh, my God. The storyboards are good. That would be great. I'm going to frame them and I'm going to play them occasionally next to my seal. On your ear.

Yeah. The coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi Award for Best Worse Life Lesson. I think it's. It's actually worth it to risk it all for the fuck of the century. I think it's the lesson.

Yeah. I think Dick wins. Get the girlfriend breaks up with somebody. He didn't really like that much anyway. Get out of murder investigation.

Get sort of everybody at work that that he kind of hated. Big dub. She's loaded. Yeah. She's got money.

Beautiful properties.

“I think the life lesson is washer sheets.”

Yeah. Hmm. I think the life lesson is what has said. That's how pussy talking. It ain't your brain.

That happened. See, I already got for double featured choice. Jagged edge to another Joester has thriller and is also set in San Francisco. I like that movie. I had total recall.

Oh. I had body of evidence. Which is the bad version of this movie. That movie is awful with Madonna and Will and Default. Which is interesting because the masturbation scene that you said that you wanted.

Yeah. She actually do that in body of evidence. Yes. And Will and Default is completely unprepared for Madonna. It's just fucking so is for it.

And he doesn't know what to do. The drink off on this like. What? Works every time. It's a really horrible movie.

Uh, who won the movie of Sharon Stone. I have a question. All right.

We've never done this on a live show.

Craig. We always go to him at the end to see what he thought of the movie. But you've already seen this one. Well, because we did this five years ago. Yeah.

That was my watch. But I don't think you asked me on that show. This movie is just elite entertainment. We just, we did not know how good we had it in the early 90s. Like, it's crazy to me that this movie was reviewed poorly.

Like compared to what we have now. This movie looks fantastic. It has like a lead actor, great performance. It's based off nothing huge star in it made $400 million. Like this would be the achievement of the fucking decade.

If this movie came out right now. Yeah. Agreed. All right. There we go.

I would also. Uh, it's a very good 4K blue ray. Yes. I bet. Yeah.

It's a good idea, era. Yeah. For the San Francisco scenes. Yeah. Yeah.

Or you can watch it now and digest so easily.

It's because San Francisco is a character in the movie. Yes. And we're not making as many movies. We're Los Angeles San Francisco San Diego or characters in these movies. And they are just like those cities are immaculate in terms of the way you can film.

You can't make it. Beautiful. Yeah.

“And so like what that going away makes you have to make this movie like in fucking.”

In fucking.

In the volcano or something like that.

The volume or something. It is basically. It's in the volume. Pretty fun. That's it's legacy.

But also, you know, Michael Douglas saying I don't remember how often I used to jerk off. But it was a lot. Also important. Council. San Francisco's beauty.

And that. Yeah.

You don't want to have council.

That's bad. Yeah. That'll have to go. Yeah.

“You guys take San Francisco for granted because you live here.”

But the city's awesome. And it's a really, really. Really. Really great movie location city when you even walk around. You kind of feel like you're in a movie when you're here with all the hills and everything.

If I lived here with the power walking, I was telling them my legs. My legs would be like Adrian Peterson. I would just be. I'd be in the greatest shape of my life. Thank God.

I'll live here. Listen. Thanks for coming out. We had a great time. Thank you.

Thank you. [ Applause ] We love this city. So we're going to come back. But thanks for having us.

Thanks for coming out. Have a great rest of night. Thank you. [ Applause ]