'Sicario' With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

I'm Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and it is C.R.M. This is happening. C.R. You got your own month. People thought you're either leaving the ring or dying and neither you're healthy. You just love me. You're healthier here. You've been pushing for these movies for a long time. Yeah. That's Chris Ryan. You can find them on the watch that is Sean Fennessey from the Big Picture. We've been doing the rewatchables since 2017. This

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And starring Emily Blunt and he said the author on Josh Prolin. I got that off of Wikipedia.

See, are you loved this movie? I adore this movie. You blogged about it for the dearly departed grantland in September of 2015 when your best pieces of work. Thanks. You have been advocating for this for the rewatchables for some time. It finished 41st on my most rewatchable movies in 21st century. Which caused you to jazzle egg really in your seat and wonder if it was a bit.

“Yeah. I've watched it three times since. I probably would move it up now. Top 30?”

Yeah. Maybe higher or lower than 16. A limitless is higher. I've watched it. You think limitless is better than 16. I limitless probably stop 12. What is it? What is it about this movie? See, this movie just engages every part of my movie watching brain. The every frame of every shot of every scene is interesting to look at. The story, the dialogue, the themes are deeply, like fascinating to watch play out. And all of the performances are unique

and wonderful. But, you know, even though they are expressing like an individual performance, they are all like in sync and in tune with each other. It's just like a perfect movie to be. And you're a big fan of Dallas Phil Nova. The director. Yeah. Dallas Phil. Yeah, Jimmy Vils. Yeah. One of my favorite film makers. Yeah. He's got a name like an islander's forward certain 1983. Yeah. He knew Keith LaFler. Yeah. He's got up in the corner. But he's got, you know,

he's like a little bit, Ridley Scott, a little bit Stanley Kubrick. He's like a really nice little mixture of filmmaker for me. So I really love his movies. This is by far my favorite of his movies. This is his best movie. It feels more timely than ever wrote that one down. Things have been happening in Mexico. And anytime anything happens in Mexico, it's hard not to send your brain back. From a rewatchability standpoint, which is the whole

point of this podcast, this movie has a few different entry points that you can just start from the beginning and you're just off for five minutes. You can wait a little later until we're doing the drop off for whatever we're trying to do and we're going through border patrol. We could go to the guys descending into darkness as we go into the night goggles in the tunnel. Or you could just watch the end as Del Toro takes out an entire crime lord in his family. Yes. Four entry points here.

Yeah. You know, with the structure of this movie is pretty fascinating. When I wrote that Greatland piece, I compared it. I compared Cicario to a apocalypse now and I still feel like I liked it. It's my, it's our apocalypse now. Like it is a movie of our lifetime about a war

that is seemingly never ending that very few people truly understand and maybe can't be understood.

“But one of the reasons why I think that that comp holds is the way that it kind of peaks viscerally”

in the, I think, 31st minute of the movie. And that's not unlike the flight of the Valkyrie scene in a apocalypse now. And then the rest of the film is much deeper and more contemplative than the rest of the film is just way more contemplative than the beginning of the film. It's way more about this woman learning about the morality and the sense of justice that she's exploring.

apocalypse now, but I think it's really smart. I mean, I think it's also, I wrote down that I really

“like a movie with a debrief where there's like men go into a room and some men have important”

information and other men don't have that information and they're being brought into the scheme. And there's a very famous one in a apocalypse now. Yeah. We're Harrison Ford is sitting there quietly is like a menacing officer and Martin Sheen's character is brought in and his mission is explained to him and it's almost like duplicated perfectly in this movie with the set up where we see Kate you know sitting outside of the glass room where Graver and the FBI and the DOD and the CIA people.

Yes. And like it's a movie for adults. Like, and I don't mean that in a sexual way. Like it's a movie for like you wouldn't be nine years old and just in this movie really. Yeah, exactly. It's morally complicated. It's about history. It's about like actual contemporary conflict to your point. The very serious, I don't know if it has quite the same level of like mysticism like opera. Yeah. That isn't the apocalypse now. You know,

“it wasn't made by people who were doing drugs and having a hard time because they were made.”

That is opera is not in it. Yes. It's more controlled. Right. And it's tighter. It's two hours. But but thematically the big idea that's like going to the scary place. Just going, it's going up the river. It's going through the tunnel. It's arriving on some other side where your view of the world has been completely changed. Well, you left out also you have the Kurt's character. Sure. You did this in your blog. Yeah, called a blog or an essay.

I was just a blog post. Yeah. Just jam it out. I would have given you a essay. What about think piece? Think piece. But the Kurt's del Toro is Kurt's. Right. And then Emily blends character just descending into, she'd by the end of the movie. She's just a shivering

puddle of just yeah, what the hell is going to happen in her life. That's basically barren sheen.

Right. And apocalypse is going to have to work. Yeah. He's seen too much too much as happened. He's lost his mind. And Berlin is a pretty functional kill gore character, which is the Robert of all character in apocalypse now, which is a person who seems to almost get like a sensory high from being in this incredibly chaotic and incredibly violent world. Yeah, reveling in the media. Yeah. One of the things I like about this movie is that I probably had to see multiple times

before I fully understood what was happening because it's really complicated. Yes. Even when you get to the FBI CIA, CIA part of it all, what they're trying to do with her, the chess game of bringing her in and the reasons behind that, you're just not going to really get that on the first, uh,

first airing of that. Yeah. You know what you're going to get to probably a lawnmower in the background

on our live rewatchables. And I've just had a text about that one. Good. That was the vamps we could do when you think it happened. This is live. I bet a lawnmower. I had lessons for, uh, from Sikarya did this for a couple movies. One lesson is to, uh, tell the lawnmower guy not to be outside the window, that's not live pod. Uh, if you listen, is that an attack shot? I could keep talking about, you know, they'll throw a lawnmower. Yeah. I might not be my house. Um, lessons from Sikarya.

There's no right. Only degrees of wrong. Right. Sometimes the ends justify the means allegedly. Sometimes it's not personal. It's business. It's, I'm sorry. Sometimes it's not business. It's personal. Isn't working when it's really, really personal for the other side. The person's going to trump the business. Sure. Don't expect your movie hero to end up the hero all the time in the movie. This movie sets up the Emily Blunt. Oh, it's going to be her movie.

Yeah. And it's just not by the end of the movie. America is a little more responsible for the

drug war than we want to admit. And then finally, you will doubt everything we do, but in the

end you'll understand, which is an actual quote from Alejandro. He says it early in the movie. And that's the key quote from the movie. You will doubt everything we do. But in the end you understand, do you think she understood by the end? I think she accepted. I don't know if she understood, but I think she accepted what was going on around her and how she, how she, she was told to play a part in all of this. She can, can we talk about Kate? Yeah, let's do it.

Is Kate a good character, Kate Mercer? Yes, we are the cipher. I think, you know, I think that I was thinking about the comparison. I've seen some other folks make it the relationship between Kate and Alejandro, like the same as Clarice and and Hablec. And this idea of like a novice, innocent, idealistic person going and meeting with someone who's experiences will

“shape her and can are the key to unlocking all of the truth of the world and what happens that”

person when you get on the other side. Clarice obviously has like the backstory of her father.

this movie, more or less like a guy, you know, even like I think Taylor shared and has talked a lot about like everybody's like how do you write such a powerful female character and you know,

“it's a little bit of a back pat for him, but I think that she's a good character. She's not a deep”

character. We back at it himself. No, but he was just like I think that he was saying that critter Linus first was pitching this script a lot of producers or some producers were like great can you make Kate a man and we'll cast this person's Kate. Yeah, if this can be Chris Pine, we're going to go if you call him Kate. It just sounds a little Trump ass crazy. A lot of people are saying this is a really powerful character. Yeah, they flipped the Clarice Starling thing on us, which makes

me think silence of the lambs actually weirdly helps us movie because you're watching or like oh, this is the Clarice. She's going to come in here and and it's actually not that and she's just going to get broken down and be questioning all of her professional decisions by the end of it. I have a bunch of stuff to go through here. The first one is that it was released on September 19th, 2015. Same weekend as the Martian. Yep. We really didn't what we were doing 10 years ago,

guys. I mean, you're in my what's aged the worst right now, that the Martian and Robert Symechus is the walk or at least on the same day, which means three original adult dramas

opened wide against one another in 2015. That would never have forgotten about the walk. I don't

even think I ended up seeing it. I mean, it turned out to be a dud, but that was like, it's a big movie. You know, it's a remake of a documentary about a famous event that happened, you know, we're about that. Yeah. Yeah. The the Martian and Cario really good comparisons to of my favorite kind of movie, which is basically it's like heat. It's like training day. It's like primal fear or the firm. Where you go in expecting a baseline like floor of an experience because

it's a genre that you like. Yeah. And then if you get somebody like Ridley Scott or Deniseville and New Christopher Nolan or Michael Mann directing one of those movies, like that pop that you feel when you're like, oh shit, this is going to be even better than just okay. Yeah. Like this could

“be free and you're watching it. Like I think I saw Cicario like immediately twice in the theater,”

which I only do with movies like this. When they doubled up. Yeah. I think it was like a real like I have to go back like in a day or two. Correct. You were 19 2015? Yeah. So did you Cicario or Martian? Martian. Yeah. I think Martian kind of would have a lot of the ideas. I saw them both, but Martian was the one to go out and see first. There's a more commercial movie. It was a much bigger hit. Yeah. Also like at the time, nobody really did the director. We're

just doing it from prisoners. It's like for actual mainstream service. It's not really in space versus a gritty movie about the drug cartel. Yeah. In the moment, it was easy to choose Martian. Also, it was a movie with stars, but they weren't stars. They were like that next level down. It was like putting together a really good basketball team without a franchise guy. It was Emily Blunt, Josh Brown and Del Toro. Yeah. Daniel Caluya, nobody know who he was at that point.

But it's all burnt all. It was like the walking dead guy at that point. But this is how very smart they cast the kind of movie that makes stars in a way. Yeah. You know, like obviously Del Toro was extremely well known at Erdy one and Oscar, but was a perfect use of

him. Roland, you know, had been a part of big movies to that point. You never would be like a

plus movie star, but this is like, Roland going to another level right here, which is this Everest. And he does the cameo at the end of Avengers this year. Right. And so he becomes Thanos and a giant movie star at where's I think from no country on it had been like,

“wow, Josh Brown's like really good. And like you should have like he should be in your movie.”

And he's an American gangster and and milk and stuff like that. But like this is when he starts just going to another level. This movie did not contaminate for best picture. I don't think it was even ever really under consideration. Spotlight won it. Big short Bridgesby is Brooklyn Mad Max Fear Road, the Martian, the Revenant and room. Good movie here. Famously a pretty interesting slate in the spotlight one that year,

but like, maybe everybody feels like Mad Max Fear Road was kind of the way to go. Yeah. This year old that year ultimately what a great movie year. It was a good year. You know why spotlight one? This is what I heard. Cause they did. They were shared in first screenplay ever. He's a frustrated actor.

Kicks off one of the most impactful and lucrative 11 plus year screenwriting runs.

There's never had amazing what if here because you know,

Sheridan famously like kind of frustrated character actor had been on like sons of anarchy and stuff and wanted to write his own material. This is an amazing first script. I read the script. It's pretty different in not so much in tone. The story in the dialogue is all in the script.

If Taylor Sheridan was writing a feature film, I would imagine that he would be like, the condition is you shoot this movie. There's script as it is.

Well, we should talk about that because this is the key thing that happened.

Well, that turned into a 10 episode. Right season. Or the original dialogue. Yeah, it just turns into Linus. Yeah, they just even for the Toro's character. The director cut 90% of the dialogue he was supposed to say because they decided as to make in the movie. It's actually better if he's a little more mysterious and it's the best decision they may

“incredible decision. His character, all the little stuff. I think this is one of the reasons”

this movie is so rewatchable and so good. All the little things they do to set you up. There's a lot of like showed on tough stuff that you could teach in screenwriting classes. Like that nightmare that he has in the plane is so important. That could also have been a scene where he's like, yeah, 20 years ago. And he just tells the screen story. You see the dream in the screenplay he is dream is shown.

Really? Yeah. In the screenplay the movie opens with like a video of Alejandro talking about Mexico. There's so much more stuff in the script. It's an interesting document to read. It's pretty widely available on Google on online to look at like this movie. See, I do. This is a really good bit from Del Nouveau, the villain who's about the screenplay and working with Del Toro and is like, the one who said dialogue for me is theater. An art for the stage.

Cinema is not about dialogue. It's about images and moments and present tense. Benicio can convey way more by the way he breathes in front of the camera than any line. The way he portrays tension, the way you feel when you see him. So so much of this movie that's successful. Then parts that I remember are all like a gesture growing will make. Like when he's just like two dramatically overreact and he just kind of like puts his hands out a little bit and it's like

the hands make it. They're like the like the pairing it back is what makes it. I would also take it once that further into that the movie is not really very interested in psychology. Psychologizing and even its characters. Like it is not really about explaining back story, but it's also not even about saying like what could have happened to this person that made them this way. We know specifically

that Del Toro's character has that and that's the motivating thing. But the first time you watch the

movie, you're not like where I land on the movie which is that this has been easier with Del Toro's movie. Like that he is the titular character. It is a bowed hand and even though Emily Blund is our perspective character, it's not about her. Yeah, she's just right. Yeah, it's pretty rare to have a

“POV character that's not the hero. I think, you know. Yeah, you could say there's a theory with this”

that she's kind of the audience of the movie and you're interested to solve this stuff through her, but ultimately like she can't do anything. I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. I don't mind that there. It's a really good structure for the movie and really smart and I feel like carving away a lot of Alejandro's dialogue makes that actually more coherent as an idea. Because if he's talking a lot and is doing vio and stuff, then you're like, "Okay, so we're watching a

busy with Del Toro movie where this woman gets involved in his world." Yeah, as opposed to like a

third or two thirds of the way through the movie, you're like, "Oh, so we're like on Alejandro's

mission." He is like the change agent inside the movie. I remember watching it the first time being very confused. Sure. Maybe like a half-way point. And now when you rew out watch, again, you see like all the intention, but it's one of those things where you're right, Sheridan didn't have the power back then to say, "Do my movie the way that you want." You know, I'm not as big a fan of Sheridan's TV shows in part because I feel like he kind of can't get out of his own ways

sometimes with explaining what he thinks about something. Well, he's gotten to the point that very few writers ever have, where it's just like he runs the show. I mean, movie making is not a screen writer's business TV is, but even TV writers don't have the kind of carte blanche that he seems to when it comes to dictating like, "Yeah, we're going to do 10 hours. We're going to have the, like, if you watch Linus, Linus has set pieces that are as expensive as, uh, the ones that are in,

that are in Sicario. Once Sheridan figured out how to make her dose the limba list drug, it was fucking off from that dude. He's running out of pills. Do you think he has that list

“higher than 16? There's no question. I think one, so you think it's, you think it's Kate's movie”

because Kate's the, in the first scene, and we're with her the whole time we're following her in the structure of that. Goldman used Goldman had a thing about this when he did the saving private Ryan. The movie starts with Matt Damon's character going to the cemetery and then the flashback and it flashes back to things he couldn't have known because he was in there. Yeah, and it's like the die-hard screenwriter, some of them were like, you can't bend the rules like that

because if you're telling the movie through the, through the eyes of somebody, you can't then just shift at the other way. That's basically what they do with this. This is also like a rule within mystery storytelling where you have to make a decision whether or not you want the audience to know

bit because midway through the movie pretty much when Kate goes to the bar with Redge and that's when the burn vows scene. We sort of starts watching Kate the way that Kate was watching on Alejandro earlier in the movie and there's even camera moves that kind of suggests that where it kind of shifts POV to Alejandro and it becomes his mission and the second half of the movie is really about getting Alejandro to Fausto and all the things that they're going to do to get him through

that tunnel and into that car and into that house. What's your del Toro relationship? It's a good question, usual suspects, I guess. He really sleds into the radar. He's, I know, like two levels

below a famous star. Definitely. You're never upset to see him in a movie. He elevates every movie

he's in. He wants for traffic. I mean, right? Yeah. He's a, he's, he's a face and an acting style that is not, um, not really invoked. You know, it's like a weathered, older face, a very, kind of minimal acting style that's a lot about being quiet and a lot about looks and a lot about gesture staring, a lot of very, very good stare. And you know, like a lot of our big actors now are like kind of glib one liner machines and and he's not like that. It doesn't want to do that.

I actually have a little del Toro game for you. Okay. Did you name it? We've never done this on rewatchable. Yeah, every decade. If you have at least four straight decades with a banger. So he's got usual suspects that the 90s traffic, 2000s, Cicario, 2010s, and then one battle this decade. Yeah. Four in a row. And it's like, oh, a lot of people have that. You'd be surprised. No. Like even if you go to Denzel, where it's like crimson tide, 90s, we'll give them that

manufacturer or training day in the 2000s, 2010s flight equalizer. Now we get to the 20s and it's like, all right, equalizer three. That's kind of out. He's just not really a movie star. He's like a great, a movie actor. Like he threw a little all of those movies. Even though he

“wasn't the quarterback. Yeah. I mean, I worship him. I think he is like one of the most”

interesting and daring actors. And he is a rare case where you hear a lot of stories about movie stars who get on set and are like, I'm not doing that. And they see like assholes. Yeah. And Benicio is very famous for reading scripts, calling filmmakers and saying, like,

here's what I think this is. This is what my gut tells me. And Paul Thomas Anderson and Leonard

at a Caprio have been very open in promoting one battle after another about how much Benicio changed what they intended to do with that movie. Yeah. That the whole underground railroad period and all that stuff is that stuff that he came up with and worked out with PTA, basically when he arrived on set because he had no time to prepare because he came right from the Phoenician scheme. And they just like kind of improvised it in a period of days. And it's

absolute harpy to the movie. And if that stuff isn't in the movie, the movie isn't nearly what we feel like it is. And that is like literally him kind of acting as a writer and coming up with all those ideas for his character. This is a carousel of his clearly very similar where he into knee where like this guy shouldn't talk. And by him not talking, but then he gets like seven lines of dialogue. They're the most memorable lines of dialogue in the movie. And he gets to do the

cool shit. Yeah. Every line he says is memorable. And even every line he says that's memorable is like the what he says the last line he has to keep. The last line he says to Fausto, you're like,

“I remember that for the rest of rest of my life. Like when he Craig, you remind me of my son.”

He grabs that twice on her. Yeah. It's the only way to really have a human interaction with you're asking me how watch works. You know, like that stuff is just so because he doesn't talk that much in the movie. To find him would be to find a vaccine. Yeah. Five deck aiders. This is the finals. De Niro. Godfather to mid that run. He meet the parents and limitless. Sure. What does counts. Cats for me. Not the Irishman. I'll give you the Irishman of course.

Cruz. Top Gun, Jerry McGuire, collateral, edge of tomorrow, Maverick. Pretty tough to be. That's good. Yeah. It's a five-banger or five-duke. It's a bang for Cruz. Let's go see if he can get to six. Anybody else? Merrill. You know, Pachino, the 2000s are rough for Pachino. You really have to squeeze two for the

money in there. What's his 80s pick? Scarfis. Oh, right, Zady. Okay. And then Stallone has rocky first blood

cliffhanger. 2000s are dicey and then creed. But 2000s fall as a part of 2000s. What is like day light?

“It's that's how much of a time it makes it. Before Merrill though. Well, Merrill would have”

cream versus cream or 70s, right? Pick a movie in the 80s. There's like seven of them. Sure. So I choice. Yeah, 90s River's wild. Missy's like River wild. Yeah, that's pretty good. I'm just a Madison County. Yeah. Good.

Augusto siege County, right? No. When's that? No, but it's 2017, but I wouldn't put it up there. Okay. We didn't talk about our director, third line center on the 1978 Habs. Can you believe? No, that's power plants. He was killed here. I mean, he's number 13 all-time

“point scored for the Edmund's Noilers. Yeah. Do you feel new? All-time hockey. Are you an in Cindy's guy?”

On Sunday on Sundays? Never saw it. Yeah. I mean, it's extremely, it's extremely

gnarly. It's a really rare. A few movies are fucking disturbing. Prisoners. Yeah. Enemy is not No. Enemy is amazing. Please don't. This loves Jake Jellon. How did you sit through enemy with her? No. Okay. Enemy is about to really feel about the two halves of us. And a giant torrential. That was a one-time reclub from me. I saw that once not going back. Okay. That was the one. Do like prisoners though, and that will be on the real ones. I was a bad news for you about CR month. We're ending with

anything. Oh, no. But he told me. So then as Cicario, then it has a rival played runner 249 two-dune movies. And now he's going to do what's his next thing. Boxing is bond. Do in three and then bond. I mean, he's on the mount top right now. He's on the top five dudes. I wrote down style, feel, mood substance. Yeah. What's the new thing? Roger Deacon's worth mentioning. Make shot, Roger. Which is our, this will be this one. And then next week we

are doing another Roger Deacon's movie. He's out of his fucking mind in this movie. Like it's amazing. Some of the best cinematography I've ever seen. I don't know how he gets the soldiers to disappear like that. It doesn't seem like it's CGI. When they just kind of walk into the darkness together, and then they just kind of. They just waited for the absolute last second of some like it's dusk on the big camera. Really dusk. He also just has that sense of composition that if you

watch scenes that in any other director of photography or any other director for Villanova,

“not, you know, I think they're both equally responsible for the visual look of this film.”

Like, even if it's just Kate looking at Graver, or actually there's a good example. The scene that I love, which is like when Graver is talking to all the FBI guys about recruiting Kate, they shoot from behind Matt head and they hold it there the whole time where they're like, hey, then this other guy, Daniel Cluey to character, he went to Maryland and he's a lawyer from

UNC goes no lawyers on this train. And they never cut to his face or anything. And the way they

shoot it is like, that's the fucking wizard. It's like God. Yeah. Exactly. They're like, what is about to happen? You don't want a lawyer to come. Like that tells you everything about this character and about what's going to happen. And it's their choice to frame it. And you can see all the guys in the frame and they're all like, oh shit. They're just like, we're about to send this girl to her death probably. Do you think Dicking should have done one movie? Like, that's my boy

with the other family. Like, just don't like to test himself. I mean, this is a running gag on the big picture. But, you know, he comes in as a cinematography consultant on animated movies. And so he has worked on my beloved Rango. And he was like, worked as a kind of ad hoc cinematographer on movies that have that tone. So he has done that act. There is like a dabble. If you go back to like the 80s and early 90s, some of the great cinematographers, because they were just working way more,

it'll be like a run of movies where it's like a camera operator on the exercise. And like, this, this, and this, and it'll be like, sorority, boom, theater. You know what I mean? That's just like, all right. I guess it was time to pay too much. Hey, man. Three kids. I got to be broken. The Emily Blunt Run was a divorce product or no six that puts her on the map. And then she has a bunch of misses and near misses. And it's just not really going. But then from 12 to 15, five-year

engagement, loop her edge of tomorrow in Sicario. Yeah. She's kind of cemented. Now was the run.

“I have some casting thoughts on her for a later category. Okay. I think I've landed on”

I think she was the right person for this. Because in my head, I think it was more probably Kate Winslett in the early 2000s would have been like the Alzheimer for me for this. But I think she was good. I think she's very credible as an FBI agent and a person who's like, I'm trained to hold a gun. I can go into these spaces. I think there's some flaw in the writing of her morality, especially in the final third of the movie. I can't wait to talk about that. Okay,

say that. And then our guy, Josh Broin comes on the map, 1985 Goonies, which have been floated around for the fourth spot in C.R. Month. I know. I'm the mansion. Yeah. Bounce around for 20 solid years.

It's just as I am to be as all over the place. Never quite made it. He's a kid actor.

2005 into the blue. No, if you guys know this movie. Paul Walker and Jessica Alba. Yeah,

And I actually like this movie, but Broin's like great. Again, it's like all the seeds of the Sicario guy, 10 years later, is into the blue. But then no country of six, gangster W in the value of

“Ela, milk, all the sudden he's Josh Broin. And I think this is my favorite Broin. Gravesy attitude and just charisma.”

And you don't know what he's doing. You know, he's dangerous. He seems like he's having an unusually great time for the circumstances. Yes. And I just really enjoy every minute that he's in this. His character's ability to sleep anywhere is very troubling. And it's it's very indicative of how

comfortable he is with everything that's going on that he's like always like I'm just going to

steal 15 minutes of an app and it's a great little tick. A lot of the hand gestures are awesome. The flip flops or the you know, the crux that he's basically wearing. But he's still a guy who can just go into the tunnel with the Delta dudes and is basically like fine fine. He's his demeanor has been my professional goal since 2017. Yeah. So it would be like him at all times. It's like I used to be a rough neck. Yeah. If I have to get it on, I will. But I'm wearing flip flops today. Yeah. I almost wore slippers

on the lavary watchable. It's just to just to lay it down like Josh Broin does in this movie. Yeah. He's an actor who just like always should have been 40. You know, when when he was 25, you're like, now you're like kind of obnoxious a little bit and he plays that really well in Goonies, you know, where he's like the overcompensating older brother who's like, no, doesn't really get on board with the guy. He's also had a famous dad. He did. Yeah. And his dad's not famous

to the Craig generation, but James Broin was like a real dude for a long time. Big star. So it

“his son was coming up. It was like, oh, that's that was a little nipple. I think thing that was total.”

Yeah. And I think that it took a little while and it took Hollywood a while of realize like how to use him. I mean, like in some ways, I think no country will probably be the movie I associate him with the most. Yeah. Like this is my favorite performance by him. I think I think also you can't really imagine McRiver's pretty fucking funny. You know, and he's like maybe Satan or at least one of Satan's overlords. But he's so charismatic. And whenever he's talking, you're like, that's the

truth. There's something really powerful about that. They like, and view that character with the idea

that like he's really, he's only going to really notice how it works. Yeah. And when he, he's got to be charming enough to like, entice Kate to join them, but also is the guy who will be like, "I'm going to put your ex wife's name on the internet to jump her and fall." I almost did this for how to take, but it's not quite how to take. Josh Brown and second best career of any 80s child actor. Beyond beyond Leo. Leo's doesn't count because he's really a 90s child actor. Okay.

I had runners up for it's an average. Keep her settled on River Phoenix, see Thomas Howe,

“Bateman, Jason Patrick, the chorus, Charlie Sheen, Christian Slater. I think the only one that”

beats him is Christian Bill, who counts. Because he starts in '80s. Oh, because of him, I'm part of son, yeah. The point is it's very hard to go from River Phoenix. I made what a good child actor to I've avoided all the pitfalls that come when he did. He did. There's like a 15 minutes. Yeah, he had a 15 year wilderness run for him. Yeah. Yeah. Then he landed in the arms of Bank Queen Diane Lane and everything was fine. Yeah. But yeah, I think Christian Bill is the only

one who's I think done better. I have to be standpoint. We were just talking about he too the earlier, though. It's been a little bit of a rocky road for Bill, unless he didn't work that much recently. I mean, how much money does he have, though? I think he likes driving like a Toyota pickup and being chill. You know, Bill? Yeah. Just like you. Yeah. It's the craziest year month. So we had a soccer game once and like fourth grade at Brentwood and he was on the opposite side and the parents and we won like six

not the, I'm like, fuck you Batman. Yeah. So I got that motherfucker. Oh, Oscar nominee. So did his daughter you said? Yeah. I was yeah. It's time to let's him. Oscar nominations for

cinematography score sound editing. How did they not get to tour this? I've always let's talk about

so goofy. The Bridges spies guys wins. I don't think he's winning. Right. We're doing that. Yeah. Bill for Big Short, Hardy for the Revenant, Mark Rufflow for Spotlight. Slice the loan for Creed. It was still really good category. He's definitely got nominated. You know what? You bumping. Well, I have a real hot take about this. I want to fly out and I want Harrison Ford in for the Force Awakens and I also want Benicio in and I want Tom Hardy out for the Revenant,

which I think is like such a weird. I know that this is kind of a weird, but I would almost I'm a more of a fan of the Tom Hardy in Fury Road than I am in Revenant. I feel like he's he's like an artistly nominated for Fury Road to that spot. Do you like Tom Hardy in the Revenant? Versus Benicio and this? Yeah. I'd much rather have Benicio. What's your favorite line reading

I've been scouting it for the rewatchables. It's a rough watch. Not a fan. Yeah. Long stretches of down a lack on him. We'd have a couple more things here.

30 million dollar budget made $84.9 million. Spawn to sequel, which we'll talk about.

Sadly, no Roger Ebert review because he died two years earlier. Did you ask AI to recreate it? Yeah, I can't damn it, Bill. It did. Sorry, Sean. I know you hate this. Chatchy BT said he would probably have given it three and a half to four stars.

“Well, you should start asking Chatchy BT what would MacGreever do in like professional management like”

Chris's contract is coming up. What would MacGreever do? You would take it for a while. Yes. You're getting the Tijuana. Chatchy BT said. No, no, no, tunnel. Ebert valued films that wrestled with ethical complexity and he loved intelligent thrillers with political weight. He did.

Somebody who is alive right now Wesley Boris, who you just saw. I did. You just podcast. We

did. We had a wonderful pond together. He was in my home last night. He did a kind of a thumbs-up thumbs down. Yeah. He called it as much a gym selfie as a movie. Was he so good? That's very funny. His style demands the Michael Mann's and Kathleen Bigelos of the world take notice and they should. And he said every shootout raid and detonated bomb is a dumbbell thrown to the floor and amped up fatigue. What does that mean at gym selfie? Like a look what I can do? It's the movie is like a real flex. It's a very

muscular. Yeah. C.R. has gone in the gym and watched people lift time to time to go to the like as a peeping Tom. Yeah. We don't have to break, right? Can I keep going? Great. We're live on Netflix. Most rewatchable scene. The opening scene. Mm-hmm. Big music, big car crash. We have a nearly blunt murder. We have multiple bodies in the wall. God. We have people throwing up. And then we have another explosion. We have a crawling guy.

Walked toward two arms. Yeah. And then we have her taking the so-called shower at the end of it. And we're off. The movie has begun. It's one of the favorite shots in the movie is her getting all the blood out of her hair. I think the functionality of this scene is just to make it feel like this is a level of depravity and violence that even these FBI agents and cops are not

first in. They're just this is beyond it. And like all the shots of the bodies in that plastic

are just supposed to be like this is this is a nightmare coming to life. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you're in the mummy or something. It's a horror movie. And also that it's a war movie. I think it's really important to frame the movie as a war movie. Like Chris is a Paco's now compared to makes the most sense because it is very much about an enemy that you can't see. And the only way you can go get them is to go where they are, which is a very dangerous

place. And they're already conducting a war. I mean like they knock down that wall.

“Like I remember that sound. First time I saw this movie and like the sound of the truck hitting”

the wall. And that guy is holding the room coming down and just like whoa what the fuck is this? Like it's it is just reminiscent of the heat truck in the beginning of the heat hit in the absolutely hit in the bank or a more thing. I'll do this now. It's just some questions about the odor of the 42 bodies in the wall and just people hanging out in the house probably like 90 degrees in Arizona. I don't know if there's enough room freshener. I'm not sure

where they're back and you've sealed. Yeah like I think what was that? What kind of background did I weld in? Like I don't I don't know like what drywall can can prevent scent wise. If thoughts on this crack it's got a nice idea of your research this. Yeah I think that they're bad pretty tightly. And so I have to imagine that that was a part of their calculus when they were thinking of where to stuff these bodies. I don't know Ben left some chicken in the fridge last

week and a ziplock bag and it's still smelled after like eight days. These are 170 pound bodies

“beyond a wall. Just I don't know. I think it would have smelled. We have these conversations all”

the time like with the like the guys at like the different people in seven. It's like how we're not calling used to the odor. Maybe you're nasal. Do you think we should end the episode right now? Yeah. Like if you just such a flaw, then maybe you just throw the baby with the bath water. Next thing I have is the red through who are as which includes um the tourists saying welcome to war as seems like thank you. I think Sheridan's borrowed from

that in other places. So you would not have the meeting gravesteen. Matt are treating her. So I had that in what stage is the best but I'm happy to have it here. It's a month. It is not the best. It was not the most rewatchable scene but it is up there for me. It's got there's so much

his shot collar roll through your side or bottles. It's brilliant what they do.

Oh with red dots. Next scene is when they're in traffic. Red and Paul two lanes over. Donovan said I'm getting a boner. We have two for some car shootings puns the night guy. It's right at tries to kill Kate. The federal police. This scene's awesome. Delta are the way he snaps in an action. I'll just get you going to. And then he's just like just great stuff. Let's talk about it man. I mean the thing about this scene,

I don't even know if I really realize this until I was watching it for this pod is how you know exactly where they are in relation to where the toll is, where the other two cars are. They're really clear about it. But it also like there's just very few directors who put you in a space

and you are feeling the tension because you're like, I can see how slowly the traffic is moving.

The dog is barking. It's hot. People are staring out their car windows. And now these guys are over here and this guy's got a full face tattoo and is like looking itchy. And all these guys are

“like what's the rules of engagement? Like what's the, am I allowed to get out and set a perimeter?”

You can feel every single part of the elements of that scene. It's remarkable. It's really, really well edited. I don't remember it. I can't remember a single time when I felt more tense in a movie theater. It's kind of on par with watching jaws in my house where you're like what the hell is going to happen here. Even though you kind of know what's going to happen, like there's, there's going to be a shootout. I think it still. Hate doesn't know. I think

his Kate's like, we're not supposed to be in war as we're supposed to be in El Paso. Like I don't really know what I'm doing here. And then this guy's telling me to take my gun out. And it's like she says at the end where she's just like, I'm not authorized to follow like Jesus spooked your spooked. I'm like, I'm not a soldier. And they're asking her to participate and then she's complicit. Like she does something in that shootout that essentially seals her fate with these guys

“for most of the movie. And it's just, I think because she doesn't know what's going to happen.”

We don't know what's going to happen. I must felt like this could be a new rewatch, what's category. But the guy you mentioned face tattoo guy. I mean, a profile, but I don't know if you could put a scarier guy in the passenger seat. She's just covered shaved head. Itchy is you said. And he's also holding gun. It's like positive. This guy's up to no good. This guy's like not headed to a soccer game. Yeah. I think if you were going to pick a knit, the cartel could have

sent a guy like named Neil, who was like working for a sales clerk. Yeah. So in that sequence specifically, that those guys are attempting to just get Guillermo back. That they're like, we know that you've taken Guillermo. Yeah. And we have arrived at this place the same time. The point of whether they took Guillermo because they're trying to lure these guys to cause the ruckus. Yeah. I think that they are also, I wonder whether or not it's in play

where it's like if Guillermo doesn't make it back alive, better that than he goes to

right to provide information provides information. Yeah. I'm always rooting for Guillermo's because

“that was my name in Spanish class. Yeah. I was Guillermo. It's great. Nice. How come you didn't stick with it?”

Come on. See, I'm a Guillermo. I didn't stick with it. It's seven years of Spanish. Never time. It's not too late to change it. Couldn't just couldn't get over the hump. It was said you had to go abroad and speak it for like two months. I'm just like, I'm well, I'm in a misports for two months. So you're still like that. You can say that at the top of every episode, Bienvenido's in the Guillermo Simmons podcast. Guillermo. A couple of my college roommates still caught me Guillermo actually.

Yeah. There you go. It's incredible. You are as cred. Next we watch. We'll say you would do great there. It's it. That's all I got. It'd be very comfortable. Kate and Reggie at the bar into the fight scene. It's hard not to think about CR when you see big bars like this. Yeah. People drink and bottles and smoke in and play and pull and dance in the country music. Yeah, especially when I think of C.R. kind of wish CR was in the background. It's a great bar.

It's a great bar. I don't tell you. Reggie busting on Kate. Yeah. But as she's letting herself go, it's just really good. Really good scene. They're kind of really kind of good. Yeah, too good. Yeah. It's true. He's not get out. Yeah. We don't really have a history with them. No. You can see though in the movie now when you want you like, oh yeah, he's fucking cool. He's charismatic. Yeah, he's got a lot to. Yeah. It's an nothing party and he's got a lot to him. The birth thought comes in.

Goddamn, Reggie. The birth thought puts a lot of Texas barbecue on that accent. Considering it's taking place in Arizona. He's like, God damn, you saw me at the song. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He's chest out. He's peacocked. Yeah. Yeah. We get pull on country music.

wait, this guy has the money clip and his pants. That's probably not a good summer bands. Yeah.

Then she almost gets strangled enough and it turns out that the author has been peeped and he's been doing the he has the peep in time. Yeah. Tame. Alejandro has the peeped.

“He has. You think he's been like a binocular situation or was he just right outside the door?”

I think he was the biggest question that they did. They also hope this was going to happen. I think when she goes in the bank, like Gregor says, like, she's like, he used me as bait and Gregor's like, you made yourself beat. You went, I told you I was going to the bank. They're going to be watching you. I put torturing berthal in the car because just because I could have watched it for 20 more minutes. And one point they'll throw just sticks his entire finger and berthal's here. I don't know how they did it.

I have a peeped. I don't know if it's ever been more power. It's like, ah, god damn!

I think berthal sells it very well. Like he's really working hard. He did like he bent the finger this way so when he put it in. Maybe really seemed like it was in there. Also, Gregor's line about like, I get to decide whether you go to a work camp in Missouri or kill house like quarter. I was like, holy shit. It's okay. I can watch that for five more minutes. It's a very soft tinge of evil. Like every one of us, like, here's a fucked up thing.

Ah, the infrared tunnel sneak attack. We talked about it. Alejandro goes rogue. Grab a guy. Shoot sir. Shoot sir. Okay. Twice. My god dude. One of the great. Damn shot her, but I forgot you were in a bull professed and you're not dead, but whatever. Braun telling Kate who Alejandro is really good. And then she's like, oh, I'm just going to go in it and he's like, that would be a major mistake. And then I got the dinner scene.

The dinner scenes that you're going to get. Yeah. I'm awarded one by Houston. Yeah. I'm awarded this the big one. The burger art. Mo Green's death like the massage. The big kind of burger word for best use of food and drink. Keep eating.

“Go ahead and finish your meal. What were the, like, lamb shank or something in the meal?”

Oh, look for us for some growth. Yeah. I looked like the chef had really put some time back. Yeah. I agree. We're a dinner guest of all times here. Well, you know, we're going to give him a young review. So I don't know. Yeah. Conversationalist, you know. Yeah. I had a lot of questions. Yeah. Just they're just hanging out talking about the, uh, of an angel. Yeah. In any other movie, this is the best scene in the movie. And this is somehow the second best scene. Maybe the third

best scene in the movie. Yeah. That's kind of amazing. The boom, boom, boom, shooting.

I don't know how you do that. They like we're killing the kid. We're killing both kids. That's also something that 99% of movies just do not do. And this is the biggest difference between the movie and the script. The script is pretty wonky. He's like, tells the wife to take the kids and like hope that they become doctors. And like they go run off and then he kills Fasto. And it's

“like you have to, you have to have Alejandro completely lose himself in that scene to become like”

what it is that he's avenging. You know, he has to take from this guy what he took from him. At the duty, he could have gone a little harder. How's that stuff? So I've fastened dumped Alejandro's daughter in a, in a fat of acid, correct? And beheaded his wife. And beheaded his wife. And he just gets a bullet to that. I think that for Alejandro, he's like, you watching your family die is the punish. But even then he gave him like five seconds to grapple with that. Maybe let it sit

for a minute. Fasto also not doesn't really make a compelling argument. You know what I mean? He's just sort of like, well, I think he knows what's coming. So he's trying to get a shot up right before the end there. It's one last shot on on the secario's life. I think it's just because he's in a hurry. Alejandro's worry that somebody's going to come. So he's got to make quick work. Could have been a little bit more sadistic. The shot, the cut to the wife when Alejandro's like,

don't forget about my daughter. And it cuts the wife and she's like, you fucking kill this daughter. I can't believe this. Like, you're going to get me killed here. I think Craig didn't think it was sadistic about. Two kids. Two kids. I brought them mad of acid with me. Did you guys step in here? Last one is Alejandro comes to get Kate's confession. You were not a wolf. And this is the land of wolfs now. Yeah. Great staredown.

Somebody have for most of our trouble. I have the 21, 22-minute sequence of the border crossing. Same. The war is and especially on the way back. Me as well. Yeah. It is one of the great movie scenes of this century. It is it is so captivating. It's my how to stay. That's it. We just did your how to stay. No, my how to stay because that this is as good of an action set piece

my lifetime. But like the last 34 years. I'm not going to fight it. Did we see we didn't see this together. Did we?

It would bid an LA. We saw the revenue together. We did see the revenue together. We saw a lot and we used to get that. That was the last of the grant, and though. Yeah, it's a race. But did we see the career together? I can't even remember. I didn't say scar in the theater. Oh, interesting. Oh, we had fucking. All hell was breaking this. Yeah. Yeah. That was a crazy time. What's the most two thousand fifteen thing about this movie? It's a tough one. It's what you

did think about all hell breaking loose a comparison to the action. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a engraver like yeah, man. I've had a pretty crazy month serving the media company. It's like work. I started a war. Trying to figure out health insurance. You go at now you go signal. It's really hard. Yeah. Thank you engraver. We'll get along. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would hire him. Did you

what? I don't know. Just get shit done. Be the third chair on game over. Yeah.

I have younger Bernthals. The most two thousand fifteen thing about this. That's a good one. I got pre-specific walking dead era, Bernthal. Pre Yellowstone Sheridan. Hmm. Where this screen may come back to our. Our tighter. What do you have, Sean? I have rooting for border crossing non-juristicional pirate soldier squads attempting to end narcoterrorism with excessive force. Very two thousand. Doesn't really feel like something I would root for? No. Yeah. I also, I mean of

two thousand fifteen. I had the capacity to be scandalized by the behavior of shadowy elements of the United States government. Yeah. Oh, you know what I mean? That's great. Pretty much. It's been like being surprised that the CIA is involved. Yeah. Right. Yeah. This movie is almost as close to 9/11 as we are to the release of this movie. Isn't that crazy? Really? That like it's let's 14 years and 11 years, like it's really close now. Okay. Would say it's your best.

I have a couple. What do you have? Movie starts in brilliant sunlight with the bombing at the drug house. Moves to unrelenting darkness throughout the tunnel culminating with the tunnel and then that last shot is just, or the last scene with Kate and Alejandro is all gray. She's wearing gray. Wall is gray. What's happening is gray. It's, it's just a great arc of like cinematography

“matching story. I think the character introductions in this movie are amazing. Kate in the truck”

following orders and being a soldier, even though she claims she's not one, Matt kind of directing

everything intellectually. And then Alejandro, I think we see him first as she's pulling up in the

Jeep and he's like, that's my bird dog, Alejandro. And he's like kind of standing behind the plane. It will have obscured just awesome. I love a great character introduction. Hmm. What do you have? I mean, drug cartels running entire countries and subverting power structures is aged well. It's still obviously something that is happening right now. Right, Mr. Happy. You know, I know. The movie is weirdly way out of fashion, but also very accurate. Like very

accurate at the present time. There's certain things about it. I'm going to talk about what's what's aged the worst that don't make don't work as well. But then there are a lot of things that are, I think Sheridan's a really interesting cat because he is very, very smart about the way that things are. But he often tries to explain why they are the way that things are in a way that I find a little bit frustrating. But he's really good at being like, nobody else is talking to you about this

“right now. And I think it's important that we do talk about it. Yeah. So, you know, it's like it's”

inland man, it's in Lyoness, it's in Yellowstone, it's in this, it's in Wind River, it's in Heller High Water, like, especially in his movies, though. He's really good at being like, there's a problem in the country, whether it be on a Native American reservation or in the way that banks take advantage of small town people or the way that the drug war has kind of like subsumed the American military that are really, really incisive. And he's really, really smart about

that stuff. Sometimes he like gildes the lily like five times, but all those movies hold up really well because what he, whatever he was after at the time is on point. I think the the easy thing to think is that Taylor shared and thinks what these guys are doing is cool. And I think that part of that is because of the, like the weird ugly beauty that Villenuven decends described to the characters. I mean, like, it, it, it definitely romanticizes to some extent, but like, guys wearing

little prevests and these dudes who know everything and take private jets, you know,

“but I don't think it's that simple. And I think that this was definitely a time period where”

he was a little bit more in tune with what was really happening in the world. And maybe like now it's kind of drifted a little bit more to where he's like, yeah, it's like pronouns and oil rigs. That's what's really important. But it's like, this was a little bit more like he had his finger on

an office. That's right. Yeah. I have the title for age the best. The car is a great title. Yeah. And he put it in the lexicon now, right? Combined with that, movies that begin with info cards.

You usually in good hands in Mexico, Chicago means hitman, but at the multiple cards, you always know

you're in good shape. If ever make an action movie, I'm gonna have info cards. They call them CR. Uh, we talked about the little touches in this movie, like Braun wearing sandals. The crooked cop when he pours the liquor in his morning coffee. It's just a lot of stuff like that. Lot of stuff like that. Did there's a moment where when they're driving into war as she's looking at his at Alejandro's hands and notices he has a wedding band on and like it doesn't

get remarked upon, but she's she just has this great little look at him like I wonder who this guy is. The long payoff with the Mexican cop, I like, my wife picked that up yesterday. I've been

“never seen the movie. Kind of. Yeah. Oh, no. The Hayes Bert. Yeah. He totally. Like, why are we here?”

What do we do with the sky that it hits at the end? Yes. And then burnt thought,

it's just in general, he's done this in multiple movies where he's a good guy in a bad guy in the same movie and he's can swing and he also did it in a walking dead. He's kind of like this is his move. Sure. It's like I like this guy. Oh, no. I don't like this guy. Exactly. He's in one river, right? Like for you're like, oh, he's going to be the the the bag right? He's like in a lot of things. I think it's because he has like a very like good old boy.

Hey, man, I'm here with my buddy kind of energy, but he had there's something very malevolent about him that like he copops out really fast. The way that fight plays out is really good because it's unclear whether he's supposed to, you know, like Alejandro does not think that that Ted isn't assassin. He thinks he's just there to like kind of see what Kate knows and see if he can get anything out of her, but it's definitely in play these gunna killer and when he's

choking her out, he seems to be like, I didn't want this to happen. You know, I wanted to just to like find out what you were working on and now we've gotten it. This is it feels like a character out of control. It's just a great performance. I had this later for picking nits with that strangles scene. What's what's the move after? All right, I had to kill her. Like how is he getting out of that one? Thanks for your XPD. I mean presumably he can figure some stuff out.

“She's an FBI agent though. Yeah. I think part of the reason why he was a flawed”

higher on the cartel's part is that he's not really in control. I was that this leads to my larger point like this guy's yard. Coral judgment. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the other picking nits of this is why are you fucking walking around with the cartel money band as you as like your wallet? Maybe like get another wallet. Ted, come on. Straighten out in slow pitch softball. Maybe not like a brain genius. Good sign. Yeah. Jesus Ted. Maybe not Brad Stevens. Why'd you trade

Jared McCain Ted? You just kind of not modern tech. What are you doing? Great check order. We're most cinematic shot. We covered it. I got a couple here. It's soldiers disappearing into the setting sun. Yeah. Or Kate walking across the roof top to see the firework. I like that one too. Yeah. That's good. Chest rock world, Brockland. There's a worth for best character name. Fausto Allercorn. No, no. Allercorn. Allercorn. Allercorn. Allercorn? I got to see though. That

“calm corn. You did. Fausto Allercorn. I think I ordered that one. Fausto Allercorn. I would”

say that if your nickname is Mediine. You win the chest rock. What word? True. Yeah. Kick cutty pursuit of happiness award for best. He'll drop. So every time the evil jaw score kicks in, which we didn't talk about, but okay, then he was basically like, hey, can you make a really scary score like in Jaws? And the guy I did this girl is like, I'll try and then it's just

fucking awesome. It fills them. Oh, oh. You're guy. Yeah. I mean, this is an amazing piece of music,

just because you cannot imagine this movie without this. No. It's almost wins the movie. Like, if they're listening to slow ride, you're just like, there's no pop music really in this except for diagetic stuff. It's great. Well, this is a big moment because we have a new rewatchable category that I didn't even clear with you guys. Oh, okay. And I think it's a keeper it comes from a listener named Abby Sol, who writes, sometimes movies we love carry subtle

details or moments that speak to the individual viewer, especially. My category idea last for the rewatchables career to share one moment or aspect of a movie that speaks to them, more than 99% of the viewers. For example, Bill loves Sunny Corlean, biting his knuckle when he's mad. C.R. can't get enough of the Eric Stoltz drug dealer lifestyle on Paul. Yeah. So here's my succession suggestion. The Floyd Gondole butter on my ass and

lollipops my mouth the word for something I just enjoy. Wow. What a great award. How do we

is Gondole. Gondole. Gondole. Any time a movie would withdraw stuff and somebody says in the

movie, there's rumors of a tunnel. Amen. Yeah. I just fucking love knowing that there might be a tunnel

“because that means we might be going in the tunnel. And that's my Floyd Gondole. Do you have one shot?”

You don't need to have one. I didn't prep you for this. Is this all one game that you've been getting through a little bit? Is there really a tabby? Yeah. I like the Floyd Gondole. I do. I'm trying to be a really good answer to this. Well, well, now for the next one. Well, I mean, yeah, I'm trying to move into something you like, you really personally like something that it just resonates with you only. I honestly, a dude wearing a bulletproof vest who has big horn rim classes. Yeah. I could take

glass frames. I said a movie with a debrief. When there's a debrief in a movie and it's like all these important people are in a room and they're like, this is how it is and this is how we're going to get the guy. But when you see a geek and he's got like an AR15 and a bulletproof vest on and he's like, I'm just hanging out this air force base that's like we're about to get. But I love maybe you have this in half-ess internet research, but who the Jeffrey Donovan characters like

based on visually is a former ranger who is in Norman Schwarzkopf's security detail, who was like a bespectacle dude who was like yoked and very scary, but also a big door. And that that fusing those two ideas together to make a character is really interesting. You're up with the Sean Finnsay word for stealth homage that gives every movie near to criteria or guys. Okay, I don't want to overdo it, but there's three. Okay. There's one that's very obvious, which is Del Toro says

keep an eye out for the state police. They're not always the good guys. Of course, Del Toro was

state police in traffic, which he wanted to Academy Award. In thief, there is a moment where well in the movie Alejandro ignores the maid as he continues clearing a house, which is an homage to thief, which is something that Frank doesn't that movie. But the one that I like the most,

“I think this is on purpose and I don't know is the scene that you just talked about with the Mexican”

Cobb pouring booze into his coffee in the morning. And his son has his face down on the table and the father winks in him and the kid winks back, which I think is a direct match to jaws where shiders the team is with his son. Oh, wow. And they have that moment where they're connected. This gives us a kiss and I feel like that's a nod to that. I have one more, which is just when blunt and collious show up at the motel before the tunnel read. Rollin says, "Can I

interest you in this tasty beverage?" Oh, and I was like, "Here we go." Yeah. Yeah. You have a flex category so you're okay. I have a special okay mother fucker for the lack of the exact moment in this movie jumps up a level and it's seven levels of okay mother fucker around. We're a plus seven around the war as border crossing. Love one is when Alejandro tells Kate, he goes where he's said and she says, "Where were you son from?" And he said, "Cardahania." Like, okay. Okay, level two is Alejandro

“neatly folding his linen jacket before the up. Okay, mother fucker. Are you folding your jacket?”

Okay. Level three, the federal, the Mexican federal police pick up trucks going over speed bumps and we're in the pickup truck? Yeah. Okay, mother fucker, do this. Yeah. Level four, Steve saying, "Spot her vehicle left lane. I'm getting a boner." Yeah. Okay, mother fucker. Level five, take your service weapon out. Okay, mother fucker. Level six, Steve going, gun, gun! Hey, level seven is just the shoe down. After Alejandro goes, "Do you want to die?"

And they do? You didn't hit us with the loudest song. Okay, mother fucker. That was great. Now we're up to the, uh, which is girlfriend order for week, week of the film. This is a pretty strong film. It is a strong film. It is a strong film. I think you really need to understand this CIA FBI mechanics of what's really going on here to fully understand this movie.

And I'm not possible sitting in the theater in September 19, 2015 for the first time watching this,

you can comprehend everything that's happening. I do think it's a multiple watch before you really get it moving. They do give you the one scene where Victor Garber explains what is going on, which is very helpful. It's like I can't, I didn't dream this up. Yes. They're like this is above my pay grade aspect of that speech where who are elected not appointed. Yes. I think is very well written.

it comes a little late in the movie and maybe that's on purpose. Yes. But it takes a long time

for us to kind of figure out those relationships. So basically CIA can't do assess nations. They can't

operate within the domestic United States. FBI gives bro and steam cover. Because now it's a cross department. It's a task somewhere legal task force. And everything went great and Tokyo went the wrong way in the tunnel. I wouldn't say basically, but yeah, but you know what I mean? Like they were about to pull off what they wanted to without Kate being like, what's happening? She goes into the tunnel that she has been used. Because in the Motel, she takes a left. We're probably she's not as strong. She's

feeling where's Alejandro. Yeah. Like, yeah, he had the right to face the draft before they go in. It's a straight later way. And that first, that Motel scene, she's like, he's like, we're going on this off. You guys stay behind. And she's like, yeah, well, we can't fucking go because we didn't bring our stuff because you didn't tell us that this is what was happening. So, but all he basically needs is her sign off. And that's when he reveals that the CIA

“can operate domestically without FBI attached. But I think that would be the weekly, just that this”

is a pretty dense movie, that of with a lot of themes that are hard to just embrace the way you would embrace some other. When you're watching heat, you know what's happening in heat the first time

you watch it. Heat right there. I think to me that weekly, the movie is always, and I think this is a

five star movie, so it's kind of not a big deal. But her still being insistent on doing things the right way, even after she's been in the tunnel. And she's like, I'm going to tell on you. I had that of my biggest nip tip. I'm a little like, okay, he just doesn't let her go like walk away from that. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, it is, it isn't a pick of mine as well. What's aged the worst? I'll do one quick. And it's weird because she smokes in real life.

I didn't like Kate smoking in this movie. I thought she was pretty good, but maybe British. I put a Tom Cruise, which endo I lied award for Terabon Screen Smoking.

“I just didn't think. Have you ever smoked an Indian Creek?”

No, what are those? I think they're bigger in the Southwest. I'm not, I haven't. Are they longer? I haven't had to have shorter. No, they're just, they're just like up gas station cigarette. You know, it's like, go get them. What's your policy on smoking mid pod? Well, they can't put their guns for live, brother. We can do whatever. She might have some more. Not some Indian creeks. I don't know. There's just something, but it's weird because I researched it.

And she does smoke in real life. But I didn't like three pups. I didn't like the way she threw it. Probably not still. She's got kids now. But I think back in the day, plus she's English all over. I think she's, the only time I've ever like reminded that Emily Blunt is probably much more delicate than Kate is when she lights a cigarette for some reason. Yeah. It's like a very cool way of liking a cigarette, man. I had the handball game

that they show as they're driving in. That is the worst. No, I could have used like 10 more seconds of that. I was really happy with it. It was like, this is great. She's guys are going to have it. Don't be funny if that was what but he chose like, well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I just want to see what's this point. Not the hanging guys, just the way I'm walking. We mentioned cricket cup, Ted wandering around with a suspicious cartel money band.

It is as well. And then Cicara to sold out a fine sort of the same director or screenwriter.

“Yeah. And got it. It doesn't have the same screen editor. Doesn't it? Isn't it sure?”

Yeah, it's a photo still in the directed. Yeah. It's fine. It's a cable movie. It's pretty good movie. Chris is a big one. It just deepens the grave side a lot, which is fascinating to be. It's one of the most evil movies ever made. It's fucking diabolical. It is crazy. I had one more, but what did you have for what said you were? Well, when you're watching it, and I know it's supposed to be a joke between the two co-workers, but like the idea that

2015 Emily Blunt is supposed to be this like ratty piece of shit that no one wants to date. It's pretty wild. It's like, yeah, your fucking eyebrows are all out of control. You're like, all right, man. That's probably Emily Blunt. It's tough. They kind of skirt past the like Alejandro's Cartagena cartel connections. Like they, I know that he says like he works for anybody who will put him in the like point him in the direction of the people who made him,

but I think it would have been a little bit helpful and I'll like learn a little bit more about like so the United States government is working in concert with the remnants of the Colombian cartels to reestablish their control of the co-workers. That is what we're doing. Okay.

I do think that that is ultimately what the movie is saying. I think that that's great

reverse point of view that that is the approach that the CIA is taking to keep order, which is which sounds horrible, but there is a significant amount of evidence to suggest that these kinds of things have been done in American history. Sure. So it's not that crazy.

with that idea for the movie to seem credible. The only other thing I would say is age the worst

“is that in the screenplay Reggie, the Daniel Collier character, his last name is Wayne,”

which just feels like Taylor Sheridan was such an occult game. It was like good name, Reggie, what did it like the cult? Exactly. Could be. Do you have any? Well, Waris, which is portrayed as the scariest city on earth, was not really happy with the movie. Yeah. And, you know, Sheridan has said that it was like 2010, 2011 when he was writing the screenplay, which is when the city was really in very, very dire straits with the drug war. And in 2015,

it was like starting to improve. And it's crime rates were changing. And then now, I just read that it is now fallen out of the top 15 most dangerous cities in the world. Wow. It has fewer than 1000 murders per year. Crucially significant. If it was number three for a while. Yeah. I mean, it was one of the five most dangerous places to look for like 30 years. And the city has changed a lot. And so because of that, and you can like read all about this and all the Al Paso newspapers and stuff,

the movie has like, it does feel like more of an artifact of a time for that city. It doesn't mean that the drug war is happening. It's a happening 2015 thing. Yeah. Although broadly speaking, Al Mencho recently makes some headlines like I think that the violence is still, yeah. The Mexican drug will trade is still very much happening. I think just in general, I, you know, the drug war itself

“is like, as the eternal quagmire of American life is still going on. And then we mentioned the”

immersion in the walk thing, which is so fascinating. My last thing, it might be a possible new award, but I was thinking about Emily Blunt, the hook up scene with Burnthal, they're really going at it.

And anytime I watch something like this, I always think about what it's like for the husband

or the wife and ski of the person in the scene. Yeah. And in this case, I was thinking about Chris and Skate, just like, Sikara premier. So just to warn you, there is a kissing scene with Burnthal and then you're watching that on a 55-foot screen. What are your next like three minutes? I think it's why he became Jack Ryan and got fully yoked. It's because he couldn't handle seeing that. Yeah. It's probably something to that.

What do your thoughts, Craig? I mean, this is why you're here for whoever's like, how you can get over this as the husband of him. I don't understand it either. No, you can't come home. I'm not like a crazy jealous person. I just think to watch somebody, well, it's why I really go at it with your way. This is also supposed to be a new team, which they got out of the mood. That's even worse. It's why actors date actors. You know, it's like, I can understand because I've been in these scenarios.

If you get to hook up with Burnthal, I get to hook up with somebody else, but you're not even hooking up too. It's also then he chokes her out. Can you imagine being at the post premiere party and just being like, hey, man, you know, you know, like, doctors date doctors because are the only ones who really knows what it's like. You, I, actors have to date actors. Well, I was, I don't know what the award would be, but maybe it's a, the movie theater

Cuckoo word goes to John Cresinsky, just watching this going, why? Why don't you tell me this is it here? Why? The only good use of AI would be putting Cresinsky in the George C. Scott and Hardcore scene. That actually, that I could enjoy. That I was trying to think what would be the worst one to be the husband in the theater for and there's just a lot of candidates. So let's move on. Okay. Uh, throw off a hand, a rubin it, parture, jover acting award. Pretty, pretty,

to understand. Yeah, let's go ahead and say this is a great melody. It's Burnthal. Like, let's, what are you, Burnthal? Burnthal is here? You're on the car? I'm even on my head. Yeah.

You have a flexcat aggression. Um, I chose when would I have died? And I wrote down the first

scene, the second scene, the third scene, the fourth scene. You've died when that. You just asked you guys to cry out there. They would have been tough. I don't think I would have been able to

“hang in in this movie. I think I would have bought it in the tunnel. How bad do you think two shots”

to the chest wearing a best heart? No, that's a good door flers door. Yeah. I was going to think about it. You want, you want to try it? Oh, is that like something that anybody can do in like an hour later, your fine or is it like you're out for a while? She's still, uh, wezing when she's talking to, to, to, to, to, to, we talking like broken ribs. Yeah. I guess I think so. Yeah. She has a, when we see her in her apartment after he's come back, I don't think she's like

fit on the jobs. It could be a new ringer. Maybe a new ringer video series. The new internship, people. Yeah. Yeah. She has a chest. Yeah. To win the chest, it's quite whole back. Oh, my. True, they're to her. True, they're to in the chest. The, uh, see, I think Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how to take a word. I have a really you did readers. I kind of did mine. The other one I had was just that this movie is like an excellent

allegory for American fought foreign policies since the Cold War. That it's like an, you take a advantage of strong use of the word allegory. Thanks, brother. Uh, it's grandma. I got to bring praise. See, grandma. I can't forget a crisis or a tragedy and, uh, you pray on the personal or

military force to bring, uh, an end to the chaos and violence, only to be exposed for having

ulterior motives. Not that I'm seeing the United States does that. No, you would never. Not a

Netflix. You wouldn't say that. No. Do you have a hottest take? Yeah, the success of Yellowstone is the

“biggest loss for movies of the last decade. There you go. It's a great hottest. I think you've been”

circling this. Yeah. It's, it's, it's in the most emblematic thing. This is like, this guy was like, I, maybe I'll be William Goldman. He's like, hmm, just kidding. I want to be David E. Kelly. It's like that's fucking boring. Three other examples of that. Starting at prestige in premium and kind of like going the other direction, not that Yellowstone does not prestige, but, you know, a movie screenwriter who then just becomes like a TV writer. I mean, it's a lot of, I think,

rates. Yeah. I'll tell you the interesting examples, Mike White. Yeah, Mike White. No, I, the White Lotus is still very prestigious. Survivor 50s, Mike White. Yeah. And jacked jack on meal. So proud of him. So crazy. I, I would be ripping my shirt off, too. Yeah. Did you think that that was related to going on Survivor? Or was he just like, I'm going to get you know, I think he's, I think you got you hooked up because he's a wealthy guy. Yeah. It was going

to be on Survivor. Yeah. And it was like, I didn't know if you were going on Survivor. I wouldn't go because I have contact lenses. Wait. I noticed in Survivor 50, there was a, was it Stephanie, who has glasses on sometimes, but not all the time, which leads me to believe that she does have

“contact lenses. Yeah. I was, I think are you reacting to the not being allowed to have contact lenses?”

Or I just don't feel like that. I felt like I'd have an eye infection the first week. Yeah. Lots of the allergies. I would just flip out because the nicotine thing. Yeah. We chucked out. If you could bring Zin, you would go on Survivor. I would just give it out first because by, like, our nine, I would be like mother fucking people. Like, you can't find out what's going on in sports on the island either, right? Yeah. But I think I would, being a sniper would, he has to take a

little bit of protein. Tatives coming back at a Friday night. So, wait, you can't take 35 days off from this. So, like, you can have a stay here or find out who would sell sixers. Yeah, I would be trying to win the challenges. What if that was your letter from three sports tip in your letter from Moses Thursday. February 9th. Celtics 104. Next, 89. And then I would have told my, that's true. But it was like five. You would have told Carrie fit as many scores as you can on

the one day. Dear dad, the picture will find out our peers. I don't know, like, God, that was funny. I have a little bit of a receiver. And you're just sobbing. I knew data was coming back. Everybody else is like, oh, my mom. Oh, man. If you, if you go on survivor and just support, no, the episode where like family could visit, you should have Chris. I just put this as she would have to teach you on everything. You guys traded a first range in Brown. You're not going to

“believe what you haven't even did on the season. I've been circling the five feet. Remember that scene?”

Yes, but it's that Chilean Maxwell. You just spoiled it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes. My house take. But he sealed out Toro doesn't get enough credit for being a legendary

stick man. Oh, yeah. Never mentioned when they talk about the thing known about him, the big

celebrity ladies man, seriously dated Valerie Galena and the late 80s, the lady from Rainman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The lady from Hawkshire for Lanny in the mid 90s. Sure. Sure, our mastery only late 90s. Yeah. The daughter of Katherine Denueff. So $1,000 early 2000s, dated Katherine Keener, Sarah Foster, and Kimberly Stewart also dated Heather Graham in the late 90s. He had flings with Alicia Silverstone in the mid 90s. Lindsay low hand in the mid 2000s

and Scarlett Johansson in the in 2004. But easier, just keeps it quiet like in Sicoria. Just take care of this for his lifetime achievement award. Yeah. Lindsay low hand and just solve it. You can find off it on Google. Did they do a film together? I just think it was in the circle. He was hanging out. Yeah. He starred with Elisee Silverstone. When she has this baggage, she's true. When she get vetted by a couple, it's just you're off when she's an alligator, right?

With him. Is she the wife and alligator? Reptile. Reptile. Sorry. Yes. Reptile. Have you seen reptile on Netflix? Really good. Very very like, I think you would like it if you haven't seen it. Benicio is a is a murder cop. I haven't seen it. Yeah. It was like a crazy reveal like Chris and I had a text message on that. It was like you see reptile. Yeah, bro. We're like, yeah. It's pretty fucking good. And it's like sneaky. It's like two and a half long. Yeah. It's very long.

The biped other reason. It's it. Casting what ifs. Josh Brown turned that in the film because he

just never asked. And then big shot, Raj, Raj deacon, send him an email, flooring in the joint

have for cast in one episode. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like this now. Kind of 10 more years. Then it'll be like

Leo de Caprio. Do you have or do you want to wait? But I was curious whether you had some alternatives for point. I really didn't. And I looked hard. And I looked at all the best actors, best supporting actress nominations. I tried to figure out the ages and all that and could have come up with a better one because you go like in half a way. I don't see it. The Amy Adams know like you go on through and then there's a big sliding door here, which is that she doesn't do black widow for marble

and Scarlett Johansson does it. Yeah. And is there a world where that's reversed and it's Scarlett Johansson B. I just think Scarlett Johansson by 2015 has built up so much leading actress, sexy cred that I don't think you could just buy her in this movie. I don't know where.

Also, I really blunt benefits from edge of tomorrow coming out a year and a half. Actually,

actually, you buy her physicality. Totally. Yeah. I do think though, if you time machine

“Kate Winslet in like 2005 and put her forward 10 years, that's the perfect one. I think this would”

been, and it's a little like the mayor of Easttown character, a tiny bit like the beat down. I think she would have been great. But I think she's a little older at this point. Because this character needs to be what? Like I think she's 2930. Yeah, it feels like 30. So I couldn't come up in the very end of worst in this movie, but yeah. Best that guy or Jeffrey Donovan is not eligible, neither is Victor Garber. Maximilian Hernandez. So what else is

the Mexican cop? He's in the Marvel films. He's in Hydra. Oh, Seattle. Oh, is that the guy who talks to Alejandro and is like, I'm sorry about your kid. No, no, no, the cop. Oh, Sylvia. Yeah, yeah, the bald cop. You guys do realize that 99.9% of society could not name Victor Garber, right? Yeah, I think they really answers Victor Garber. Well, we're at a kind of a famous stage actor who was on alias for like 10 years, but could they say that's Victor Garber? I think they did that for

guy from alias. Right. I think it's that. I think it's sad that he was dead. Do you have waiters award as a birthday? I think. Uh, I got Donovan. I have Donovan too over Bernthald. Donovan's like, I have gone to Rhea and I'm like the world's greatest killer. Like, and he's in three scenes. I'm a, I'm a seeer. I've been a birthday birthday, but I get a vote. When they, when they're out to water board Garamo and he's like, I'm going to step out of the room in terms of

the camera. It's like, there's just chilling shit. What's going on in that scene? Uh, there's this, there's like questioning about what he's actually doing, what Alejandro's doing when he gets up close to him. I think it's supposed to mask him intimidation or something actually happened. Oh, no, he's not going to do anything. He's just taunting him. It's actual time. Is that where you're

“talking about? Yeah. No, yeah. I think he's, he's like, drops balls on his head. What do you mean?”

Well, like, if you leave this a cario reddit thread, a lot of people think he, like, sexually assault him. Oh, I didn't know that. No. I thought it was like putting the scratches. It's Mount sexually a masculinity. Don't be crossing the line for Alejandro. Not the water boarding or mass murder. Well, that, the idea was that. Now, the child execution read it with special really think that. Well, that he brought in the water jug to pretend as though he's

going to go water board him. And that's what the cameras see. And then when they turn the cameras off, he does something else. I think there's no water going down the drain. Oh, okay. Yeah, I show the drain deliberately. I know. I don't know. I guess I didn't think that. I didn't think that's why there was. It's all in play with Alejandro. You know? Yeah. Sure. That's interesting. No, Craig. Thanks for bringing that to a room. I think I think he would

brought the sisters in though from Josh. Yeah, I think he would have come in and he said, I can be a

“real friend to you. You should be able to jump from movie to movie. It's no more. I don't know.”

Is this, does it, I, in my mind, I thought, I guess I thought I, I, I grew up. See, I was done for the podcast. Well, I just blew as far as we know. So I don't know if I like. I don't know. Yeah, now he's really like disappointed in a, recast the couch director, city. Instead of where I was, can I float Philadelphia? Oh, nice. I'm trying to get him beat out of Philly. Really class. See, our month, and you're already taking shots at me.

Philadelphia. Trying to get AJ Brad, too. Dude, AFC is cheap. Uh, Craig, you have a flex category. Do we have Craig special camera now? Sure. Go off. See, I think it just, you know, I mean, I want to implement a new tool for the show. And, you know, this, you guys are the preaminent counsel for Hollywood from the producers of AI Roger Ebers. Yeah. Yeah. I, as the Hollywood Zars, I think, you know, tomorrow March 3rd is the,

is the NFL franchise tag deadline. Yeah. Franchise tag. You can prevent a player from getting a

second contract somewhere else. And they have to stay on your team. I think there should be a movie

Oh, they want to make the cario too. I'm sorry. There is literally a franchise tag on this movie. Oh, so it's like a committee almost like in college football. Yeah. There's 10 people on it. When this, when I heard about the sequel, so disappointed like, and it's like, oh, you want to make developers proud of two. Sorry. It's been franchise tagged. Five movies a year that you actually get to put the stamp on no sequels. Wow. Well, the little movie franchise tag.

You are the, I really like to say, they're all thrown in Sicario 2. I would say I'm closer to the guy on the Jags who was like, I'm getting, I'm moving up to get traversing. And that we didn't

go far enough. Like, we should already be on Sicario, Cohen, Koppos, which is what the third

once we call, we should be, there's no reason that we have not gotten a third scario movie yet. If you're going to break the seal, like, we should be on Sicario 4 by now. But why don't we just on the best version of a prestige TV series with Sicario? Because we're having, like, season.

“You need to know towards not going to do that. Is it, is that? I don't think so.”

He's in one. He felt about Thorne would be in three TV shows at this point. Yeah. I think he likes to hang it out and play in music and make it some money. And I think we could have gotten Thorne. I like, don't do it. I'll do it. I'll play out 100. Okay. I can do it. What other you found out that he's a sexual TV. So that was a childhood. Yeah, it seems more approachable.

So what else would you have franchise tag from this year? It's also, it's like a franchise crime.

I mean, sinners 2 is coming. Yeah, that you franchise kind of happen. That's a good happen. That's a tag. I mean, there's not next. It's going to be Twilight Zone in Black Panther 3. But I mean, there's just way too much money there. So you think we said it in the 90s where they're hanging out? I think I think they should. Like Barbie, you franchise tag. I don't want to see another Barbie. They only made Barbie to make more Barbie. Which you have to franchise tag sinners.

“Franchise tag, Oppenheimer. No, I want to. What's up, you two about?”

He's just like teaching after that, right? I mean, great movie. It's like dead posts. He said he could not hear me. Yeah. But with Oppenheimer. I wouldn't franchise tag limitless. I could do like three more. Yeah. Did you watch the show? No, the show. It wasn't who was the star of the show. I don't know. But groups is like in it briefly, right? Yeah, the end of the show stop. Half-life center in a research. The border crossing scene. They had to build a full-scale

replica of the war as border because they couldn't figure out how to pull it off a lot of days. They would add the stop traffic. They asked for permission, right? Yeah. And they wouldn't do it. Yeah, I think that's anyway. Can we close the US Mexico border for multiple? Like actually you can't. The thermal vision shots were filmed with an FL-L-I-R-S-C-8300 thermal vision camera. But how is using for us today? Not added in post-production? That would have been sick.

If this was infrared. Yeah. They only had it for one day. That's a good gun to only award night vision. There's night vision on them in. Yeah. Yeah. The props man heated the souls of issues to see the footprints. I love it. Yeah, great stuff. The word "scariot" derives from the Latin word "scariot" meaning "daggerman." And then Emily Blunk got so sick from food poisoning in Mexico. She required IV fluids between takes to make it through scenes. And then there's a part in the tunnel scene.

After the tunnel scene, brolins telling Kate about Alejandro. And he pauses for a second or two

and talking about her going up the wrong tunnel. And he said in an interview he paused because he forgot his lines. And he literally froze for like two seconds, but then in the cut it actually worked. So great. Yeah. For their fight scene, Burnthal shared Blunt that he was an experienced boxer and she could hit him in full strength, which she did. She does really pick a shot at him. Yeah. The wild pony bar was in Los Lunes, de Mexico, 29 miles south of Albuquerque.

425 miles from Tucson were supposed to be closed down in 2015 after a fatal gang shooting occurred between the banditos and the poor boys. Can't have nice things. Now, it's called the horseshoe. It's a public meeting place. I don't know what a public meeting place. I don't know either. I saw that and I was just like, do we have to go investigate this? What's happening? A lot of rewatchables there. Public meeting like, like smoke in the creek, drink beers or just like, let's have a, you just kind of

me full dancing festival. The kind of like a fantasy baseball draft there.

“Should we do fantasy baseball this year? And please not. I think the ringer. Yeah, I'm thinking about it.”

You're not in the United States. I got dead last. Hi, for this is not invited. Oh, you just want to leave this guy's out because you got screwed. I can't have. I think it's quite that real. Like, for the sake of the narrative. Apex Mountain, which is say blunt here,

quiet place. It's probably quiet place. I think quiet place is a more interesting. I know that

“she's an, she's an incredible actress. I love her. I kind of sad. I think we're what's been”

going on in the last five years. I don't really like the choices she's taking. You don't like open high and we're in smashing machine. I think she's a worse thing in smashing machine straight up. I'm going to have fun and move is. I really like five year engagement. I think she's good, but I don't want her to make it three more of those in Jungle Cruise. That's, I don't, that's, yeah, I have not enjoyed that stuff. She's good and fall guy. I like that movie. She is okay. They tried,

they like, that's a swing in a miss and I like that they tried. Do you see Project Hill, Mary yet? I did. I liked it quite a bit. I heard it was good. Yeah. The gas is back, man. Fucking gas. Yeah. It's, it's really good. Who are as a pex mountain probably not? I mean, I represented on film. I think it, you know, put it on the quote,

“Matt. It's a movie location. Yeah. Broland. I think it's that run after no country when he was”

W and he was in like, I wouldn't mind. You are the ones that this is a pex.

Is that what it made 200 million, but it made the end of this year or whenever that,

whenever Ultron comes out and he does the cameo at the end of this year. I think it's infinity. You do. Yeah. I think that the what years of the level of 2018, the level of success of that Avengers movie and him being the big bad that the whole thing is centered around every character says his name. Now granted, he's CGI in the movie, but he, it is unmistakably, Broland, even though he's like a giant purple alien. I don't know. Can I tell you a story, really? Is that a Marvel movie?

Yeah. It's, you know, Thanos and he puts the glove on. You know, the glove with the gems in it. Sure. The infinity stones, the infinity gone totally. I was driving out Santa Monica yesterday and I was at a red light and a gentleman who probably seen better times in his life was riding a bicycle past me and he stopped on the sidewalk and reached down for something and I was like, wonder what this guy's up to? He picked up the glove from the infinity wallet. Yeah, the infinity wallet and he was

like looking at it and I was like, what if it's the real gauntlet? You know, like, what if this guy? Just fell to these stones? No, but there was something in it. Like, I think he was doing a drug deal.

But like it was pretty amazing. He was hiding heroin in it. Like, whatever he found in there,

he was excited. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, it was, it was Broland. Yeah, it was, it was Broland. Car tell movies? Yes. I think what's the competition? I mean, Scarface of course.

“It had been largely Narcos, you know what I mean? Like, I can't remember when Narcos debuted. I think”

after this, uh, I would have Scarface over Scario. Just because it has a longer tail. It's 43 years of people watching Scarface versus 10 for Scario. Okay. But 10 years from now, one, look at it. Yeah. I mean, do you consider like Carly does weigh a cartel movie? Not really. More of a newer crime movie. It's not a lot of great movies in this. I mean, obviously, um, Vincent Chase's Masterpiece Mediine. Yeah. That's true. Forget about that. That's a facet as a plot device. Oh,

God. I don't know if we've topped it. I'll say Tim Burton's Batman. Oh, yeah. The Joker goes in. Oh, good. Right. Del Toro? I guess traffic is his apex button because he wasn't asking. Traffic people money, but that's probably I would imagine. Yeah, I'm probably traffic. He's been pretty much dope for 20 years now, though. Like every time he shows him, he's like, oh, hey. But he's so movie. Caluia. No. Dead people buried in walls. Probably.

Can't think it's about more effective. I really like when the bullet and he's looking through his like with the fuck. Uh, Burton thought no tunnels. The greatest gate to do this or fast five. You don't think the greatest gate is more significant than fast five. We're the tunnel in Shawshank. About tunnel more. Oh, Shawshank. Yeah. Fast five greatest gate. Uh-huh. Sikarya. We're good. One bad tunnel more. Leo crossing the tunnel under a straight.

Well, that's some good tunnels. Yeah. Dinner scene executions. Yeah. I mean, the menu. There's a lot of executions there. And then Jeff Donovan, I still have shot color. Such a mentioned Jeff, you mentioned the dinner scene execution. Yeah. And, uh, it is your month. Can I just throw one more flex category in there? Yeah, I did want to talk about this a little bit, which is the, I used to fuck guys like you in prison award for craziest quote. Telling a guy

time to meet God before you kill his family is like as hard as it gets. Yeah. You want to say

true story that just happened two hours ago. I pulled up to your house and uh, I was shoveling a salad in my face so that I could get some food in before this recording at parked right outside the place. And, uh, car rolls up next to me. Drops it's window. It's Chris. He turns to me. He says, "Time to meet God." And he drives away. There's also a really good, uh, I used to fuck guys like you in prison, uh, quote, when the delta guy holds red down when Graver and, and Keter going at it.

“And he just goes, just laid back and let it happen, baby. Yeah, it's like, what?”

Cruiser hanks. I don't know. Hanks as Graver. Cruises all a hundred. Cruises all a hundred. Oh, doing like, do a better one. Yeah, doing Vincent. I'm trying to imagine him saying you were in the land of wolves now. I think you can do it. You're in the land of wolves now. He couldn't sell the South American aspect of it. Obviously. Cruises the birth of part. Wow. Cocktail crews. Yeah, but that's Frankie J. Mackie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be pretty good. I don't think there's

place in this movie for him. No, he could be rolling. He could be good. He could. This is more crews than Nanks. Scorsese or Spielberg. Scorsese. Yep. Best hang. Worst hang. Broly and best hang. I agree. We're seems kind of fun. Yeah. Graver. I would definitely get beers at Graver. Yeah.

I almost had Kate for Worst hang, but she's pretty fun at the bar. Yeah. Let's first

out of a few freaks man. Yeah. She just needs to be in her element. You just don't want to get into like an argument with her like jurisprudence. You know, she definitely has got some hangups about. Just to get some smoke sticks. Yeah. Yeah. She thinks she's a Broncos fan. Just that area in. Yeah. Yeah. You know, one of those like definitely seemed up tight, but the bar you just saw a different side. Yeah. Those are some of my favorites back in the day. It's like

how favorite what really home. Just hang out with like those full pick. Pickin' it's how did the Mexican guy miss Emily Blunt in the beginning in Arizona? Oh, she opens the door and he's where Craig is and just completely misses her. Yeah. I took you one job. You're in the federal cartel with a gun. The federal guy? Yeah. The guy when she opens the door and he shoots at her and she kills him. You'll find out soon with two shots with Craig Hall back coming up next. I tried that.

He might be aiming for the Delta guys. Oh, I guess he wants you to because he shoots out the window. Yeah. He's a bad shot. At the Wild Pony, Kate Orders, two beers. It's a pet peeve of mine for our movies and TV when people don't say the beer. Yeah. Big low bulture would have been great because we love

big low bulture. Sure. Uh, I'm always like when they're protecting the integrity of we can't have

“spot. Like you're doing all this other stuff in a movie. And it's like you have to draw the land”

in integrity. Just to have her say two beers. Nobody's ever ordered two beers. What was the prime of fear fight that we had though? Or it was like, was it the usual? What was the order that he does the bar? Yeah. And you guys were like, this is not correct. I was on the opposite side of you guys. Yeah. You were like, I would love it to be able to say the usual and I get like an ice cold martini or something. But we were like, we make up names all these things that movies just make up

a name and beers. Yeah. Like give me the, I'm a rollo and a rollo light. Great. Okay. Just give her the I'm a rollo light and we're ready to go. So this is really more like you have an issue with the prop master. Like you should have been working a little hard. It takes me to move. I sure there were two beers. I felt like a bunch of movies. So authentic except for some of you being like two beers. What do you think she likes to drink in real life? Oh, she's definitely pound in light beers.

Yeah. Yeah. Wish shots. Yeah. Yeah. To kill a couple shots. Make a little bite. Will it make her? Yeah. 90 calorie light beers. But with shots. And she definitely didn't eat all very, that's very attractive. Yes. Then probably didn't. I got into her day after she is had a near death experience with birth all. She's so happy. She's haggard. Yeah. Dark circles under her eyes are hares all oily and she's smoking a

sink in the bathroom. I'm still like. Let's go. Dana Dana will never go in a word. Yeah. I'm just like all

the draft fix for that. Yeah. At the end of the day she looks like Emily Blunt. That's a mistake. Yeah. Yeah. They can't they can't change it. Well, that leads to another nitpick ahead. Would you really have a cigarette right after you've almost been strangled? I feel like I'd wait six hours. Yeah. But when you really smoke, the cigarette comes after everything. Like when you really like out of it, I almost had the life chucked out of me. Do you guys have another? I have a cigarette

“after the hiding. If I could. You don't like. Yeah. I don't know. I think she would have waited.”

I'm not going to make the inappropriate call. I don't have to arrest Alejandro and the Tano is ridiculous. It's the worst part of the movie. And then Alejandro force a Kate to send the document saying it was all legal. Just sign it and then tell them after he put a gun in my head

just strange that after the Victor Garber character has said, they have the authority to do

“whatever they want. Basically, that they're like this entire thing rests on Kate signing a piece of”

paper. Now, that whole piece of paper might incriminate Kate, which also may be why she's like, I don't want to sign this because I didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. But yeah, there's like a weird end of this movie where Matt allows her to leave the Tonell area, despite saying I'm going to expose this entire operation. And also Alejandro is like, I have to kill you if you don't sign a piece of paper that we could easily just like doctor. She's kind of out by that point.

What do you have for nitpicks? Well, what's Ted's plan? Ted has been following. Absolutely. Kate, so that he can seduce her so that he can get the information that the cartel wants about what she knows because they spotted her going into the bank. Right? That's the set up there. But she did he know that she was going to go with Reggie who was a pal of Kate's and who could serve as an intro? Is that just good luck? It's the kind of mistake you make when you read a

movie that Realize and people are going to watch it 35 times. Yeah. It's just a little strange critic. Trying to get in with her and get closer to her. I don't think he's trying to solve everything in one night. But maybe become like a steady hookup and then he can get information. Okay. The same thing happens with what's Alejandro's plan. So he's like, it's Sylvia or today knows Sylvia is going to be at the end of the tunnel. Like, what happens if Sylvia is not there and there are no

cars there? Like, how does he catch up? Well, they know one day well. Once they kidnap Guillermo, they know they have like two days, right? But they destroyed the tunnel. Yes. So they're like immediately. It's go time. Yeah. But then once you get there, how do you find Manuel? Yeah. If I

“guess you just there, you have to be so you can get a car. Sure. Right. And you're going somewhere”

because they're tracking Manuel. Right. Once he crosses in Mexico. But having a police cruiser is like the ultimate hack for nailing Manuel. Right. How did it go? It was dinner time. I could have come like right after when they're playing video games. It's great note. It's really, really fortunate. Yeah. What is that? Walked up the kids are playing Madden? Yeah. I can't find it. I'll let them finish. It's a fourth quarter. Are you running the spread?

Time to be gone. It's a time to be built for Sylvia. And the other depicts. I think we've hit all of them. Sometimes it feels like Griever will be candid with Kate when it's convenient for the movie. But why would he be like that otherwise? He clearly has a lot of stuff he doesn't have to explain. Do we cover everything? Yeah. I think so. All right. sequel prequel prestige to be all backcaster and touchable prestige to be would work for this.

Yeah. I think it could evolve with the news and kind of what should have happened with homeland. And they just kind of fucked it up. But homeland, they got so brody was so popular that it kind of fucked up the show and then brought it back. Could have been a different kind of conflict. Yeah. It just should have been new season. That's a new following. Yeah. It's like 24 24. Sure.

Very realistic. The sequel. There is a sequel. I take a third. But I would also watch,

albeit, I think I would go to hell for watching it. Alejandro Mexican Prosecutor and Colombian cartellas. It doesn't like the prequel to how he gets hooked up with them. And also,

“I think that's that Patrick Dempsey show. I think that's the premise. Was that possible?”

Memories of a murderer. Oh, and he's like a hitman. Yeah. I would also watch Kate small town sheriff after she moves out of Arizona and he's like go to a small town where the rule of law still exists. I want the Jeffrey Donovan show. Yeah. Well, that's essentially two. I'm just getting boners. Yeah. Crack and wise. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergette, the Flora, Zainlow or somebody else CR? I'm getting two seduced by Zain, but I got to do it.

Zain talking to Ted before he goes into the bar. Ted, man. You know, yeah. You've been low, man. You struck out and slow pitched softball in front of the entire Phoenix law enforcement community. But you're ready to rise again like a Phoenix brother, and here you are. You got Kate in there. Just make sure you don't use the rubber bands of the snoring content of brother. That now that I hear it out loud in my head, sounds a little like Danny Archer.

One time. It's like I'm saying t-i-i. I'm not taking it. We're going to have t-i-i, Archer. It's not that easy. But yeah, that was what I had.

Tell me about your journey, Ted. I thought for sure we get Wayne. Wayne must be a first and

bullpen. I mean, I would use Fergette, but there's a lot of chemical way in this movie, so does he, when they, when Benicio's finger goes in his ear, does he say, god damn, look at

it. He does. He kind of does. He does go Wayne for a second. Just want to ask her who gets it.

“I would go Del Toro, her Del Toro, or do you can see a Johan Johansson for the score?”

I don't know if there is enough music, but it's such a distinctive, it's very effective. Probably an answer for questions. Is this a better movie of Kate Schutz, Alejandra, in the head? At the end. No, but is it a better movie if the last shot is Alejandra walking away from the apartment building and not going to Mexico one more time? Like, did you think that the soccer game was like a little too? I almost had nitpicked for this. I didn't like the soccer game. I thought the

quality of the play was low. It just gets there in Mexico. They, they start out. They start from the middle. It does the kick. Not the fucking defender. Missed it. Yeah. Completely. It's like you guys, it's just a, your national sport. You couldn't even control one pass. You guys are 11 year olds. They're playing on dirt. Yeah. So I mean, I didn't like the quality of the game.

I thought I would have done a second take. You want to the world cup?

It's very possible. I will. Why? Just curious. Okay. Are you going? Maybe. We have it. We won't have it. I think she has the same. Yeah. Probably. And it's, so you think, not a better movie if she shoots Alejandra. No. For the record, I like the ending of Mexico because I do think that the movie is ultimately like

nothing has changed. Nothing has been fixed. I like the ending. I think it's a very strong point and I love that. And these are the real people. This is in here. And the Hayes were no

“you point and point you made about heat. Where it's like you have to have these threads in the”

movie that show other worlds. It can't just be like two trains on track ready to hit each other. That there's other stuff that is affected by this. I think it's actually a very graceful thing that isn't in the other Sheridan movies that will move brings to it. Yeah. I mean, weirdly, the only character you really care about in the movie is Sylvia and his son. If that's the one you actually have the most connection to emotionally. Yeah. I care about Graver.

We know that. Unairnsible questions. Is there a worse Halloween cost in the dressing up like

the body bags in the wall from Sikari? I'm just showing up. I've never thought about it. Who are

you guys? I'm one of the body bags from Sikari. Oh, cool. What a beer. It's got to be number one, right? I guess being the little girls from the shining would be bad. Yeah. That would be pretty common one. Which you'll say it on about burnt to a crisp Gabriel burn from the front. Did Kate remarry did Kate every day? Again, does the one narrow word would happen the next day? What happened Kate? I think she really talked about it. I think she got back together. I think she worked it out.

Yeah. They figured it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is in the kill house at Quirk? Yeah. She's visiting them. Did Kate move to a desk job? What are her next two years? Looks like CR. Other than a lot of nicotine. I just I would like to believe that she still believes in the power of law enforcement. So maybe she's a cop somewhere? Yeah. She works at a post office. Yeah. Or she's like a set job selling knitting on Etsy or something. Yeah, knitting.

Yeah, she needs bras. Yeah. An answer to a question. It's the land of wolves. Are you wolf CR? I don't think you can answer that about yourself. It's like giving yourself a nickname.

“Somebody else has to do it. Yeah. You have to do it. You guys have to tell me.”

Do you have any an answer for us? You got them all. Okay. Anything? What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie? I would want the rubber band from the bank roll and just like leave it on tables and see if you notice. I think it's the burnt to our rubber band. But I had to. The fake cocaine bricks in the car when Alejandro kidnapped the cop and there's all those bricks.

You could talk me into that. It was my backdrop for this one fake cocaine piece of cocaine in my way. Coach Finstack, Mr. Miyagi, where best wears life lesson, you would that everything we do, but in the end you'll understand. I think that's got to be the answer. It's been a bit of how I feel working for you. Thanks. Best double featured choice. Sikario to Soldado. If you want to just keep the graver in Alejandro train rolling.

I chose Abel for ours, King of New York. Another like vicious movie about the way things are. I've fast five. Okay. Brazil. Tunnel. It's it's the happier entertainment version of Sikario. I know it's start with fast five and then I would go to Sikario. Where would you go? Happy triple feature. No double feature. Yes. Fast five. Great idea. Yeah. That's good. And then furious

Probably happy Gilmore. Who won the movie? I actually think there's an obvious trace for this. I'm gonna make a case for Taylor Sheridan. I know that I have that written down here. I had been each over it and down. But the more that we talked about it, first of all, it sends them on this

incredible trajectory, where he's arguably one of the most powerful people in entertainment right now.

“That was who I had. And I think it's the obvious winner because he literally won the movie.”

And it jumps to come in for love in your encounter career that Shawn now detects. Yes. Well, I don't I wouldn't say to test that. You just think it's a it's a it's a it's a waste of skill screenwriting talent. Yeah. Should you do the chas commentary speech to him? Weasted talent. There's nothing worse. But I said the waste is how it's making experiences like making without remorse and having that get chopped up and stuff. I mean, I think he's probably like I want control over my

scripts. I totally understand. Is that my camera? Taylor Sheridan. Don't stop what you're doing, man. I love your work. Do you think he listens? No. Do you think he listens to pods? No. He's Gito. Why? Because he's writing like 10 pages a day for seven shows. I had him on the big picture in 2017 for Wind River. But he's the only guest who's ever called in by cell phone. Was he cool? Wow. He was pretty cool, actually. He did all the video. When you watch him on the

videos, it first of Cario for the feature at season, he seems a little bit chiller than he does now. Yeah. That was your only cell phone. I had often from the real world call and once on the cell phone and you're one of the BS report, no seven. I didn't want to pointy but cigarettes. I'm going to call that one second. And then he said, can I get a pack of camels? Alton, who is of course the greatest athlete at the time. He did a bugger and Steini Mo used to call

“it on cell phones, whether we're walking around Dallas. Yeah, that's that's why we had to eventually”

stop that combo. Yeah, it was wasn't great from a cell phone. We've dude. How are you doing? Three men? We were the cell phone. That's that's the thing. But I was we didn't know any better. He was I'm a dance dude. He was just and now he's just figuring it out in real time. That's cool. Those were those were also me and Sierra would text about those pods. Like, did you hear the three men we have today? Pretty fucking awesome. The three men we've

Chad Ford. Yeah. Obviously, Sal. Who are some of the others that I was just like this. Jacko. Jacko. Jacko elite. Jacko at a great run. The Yankees. I remember the first time I heard one barty talk about blue chips. I was like, this is blowing

my mind. Like I never considered this. You know. Who's yeah, for who in the movie?

I wrote an ECO down, but I thought that was a very compelling Taylor shared in case. I it's clearly shared in Craig. Your thoughts not scarier. I'm surprised no one said Dinee or not even with the just one awesome. I guess that was I didn't feel like we talked about it. This is the lowest grossing of his Hollywood movies. This is not like a movie that like put him on the map. Like prisoners put him on the map and then I think arrivals where he

elevates. But what all what you guys talked about with how much longer the script was, how much they cut out of it, how they kind of took that much longer. Like pretty much all the plot beats and a lot of the dialogue is in this screenplay. They cut lines. So like a lot of Alejandra's lines were given to Graver or they get cuts in the movie. And the opening scene you said is initially Alejandra killing somebody right? And it doesn't doing a voiceover about like cut the dream that

I don't know. I feel like there's even a part to need time to screws on this in a way that makes this borderline a perfect movie and it takes it from a pretty good movie to a perfect movie. Yeah. Like a good example is like at the end of the screenplay, Alejandra actually says the last title card about like Cicario's were go back to like Ancient Jerusalem like spelling the Romans. He says all that. And it's like this is really awkward. So Dado has more of

that energy. Yes. It's a little you can kind of feel Sheridan's words more in the screenplay. It's a it's a it's a very good point. I think he was already on the train to be coming who he was going to become. This movie become you know like I said it's still my favorite but I think a lot of people would say a rival is his best movie. I think the Bidoon movies are beloved now. He's had a really cool career. I grew back and forth between this and a rival.

I don't think this movie is nearly as big as the Doon movies have been for him. Definitely not. Yeah.

And especially with 25 and under it's like my son had never since Cario and I don't think any of

his friends. I think it's in that perfect sweet spot of beloved but not it's also like you can

“discover it. Which is the best thing about it. Yeah. Are you a prisoner's fan? Yeah. Yeah.”

Also I was wrong thinking back I did not see this in the theater because I saw I remember seeing the Martian did not see this. Watched on my laptop and I think I was 19 or 20 and I remember leaving it kind of underwhelmed because I think I went in thinking it was a bigger action movie fast paced and it's a little bit slower than that. Yeah. Upon rewatch last night on the TV blasting the speakers lights off this is like the best movie ever made. It's so fucking good. I mean he can make

given up. He's like I thought I had the helicopter for a while. You can watch a car on the freeway from above for like a minute. All those shots have ideas too man. Yes. Like so many of those drone shots that people will do now are just transition shots and they'll be like all right here's the city scape and it's usually one lonely car and a lonely road going over a forest space but just giving you it's not really Chandler Arizona but that very beginning of the movie when you see

the kind of like web low town almost this like suburban kind of it's kind of like the the inlet in the rip you know where it's like almost like an abandoned server that just exists only to house money to carry a vibe. It does. Yeah the shot there's a shot on that when they're in the private jet that they've requisitioned to go to the Air Force Peace. The shot of like the shadow of the jet like kind of rippling over the landscape. It's just fucking crazy. Yeah you hold your breath these

entire movie. Also we didn't do the category of what's the perfect game. I don't have the evidence. I've forgot to set you up for it. The perfect agency this movie is not 19. Like I know. Like you just I could you couldn't you can't grasp the what they're trying to say. And even now it looks like I'm now just being like oh this movie means so much more and you understand the subtext so much more because nothing is very deliberate in this film. It's all kind of something

“you have to read into. So that also probably played a factored while I was at a as of 20”

year old. I was like pretty good. I forget to set you up at the top about it's 200 and it's two hours flat. Two hours flat. I was shocked. I would have been my life this movie was

two hours and 25 minutes. This type of movie is always two hours and 25 minutes now. Remarkable

that it's too flat. So was it on the oral back scale where you'd think every movie has to be 100 minutes. There's almost 20. There's not a lot to cut out. Well the only thing you could cut out is the birthhol stuff, which is probably saved you 10 times a week. No that's like I like to cut the birthhol. It's also like that binds her to Alejandro. It's like almost why she follows them down the tunnels. She's like I need to know what this guy is about. And then there's anything

to cut. There's kind of two different categories of movie. There's like 100 minute types of movie and then there's the two hour kind of movie where I think most two and a half hour drama is now could be two hours. And then there's a lot of comedies and rom-coms that are two hours that should be an hour 40. I will say this if you were forced to cut the studios like we're not really saying that she cut five minutes. I would cut all the stuff with the with the cop in the

beginning and the end and the soccer. So I would just I just think that would you need everything us for the pie? Yeah, I don't. That's like a luxury that you could still have mostly this same

“movie but I really like having it. I think it's so grounding for the story. You know, it makes the”

scene which I don't even talk about when Benito sitting in the back seat of Silvio's car and taking and making him go to Manuel. Yeah. And he's like you know, run your lights and tell him to get out of the car. You're a very good piece of stuff. We're more tense because you're like we've

spent this whole movie with this guy. Yeah. Well that's it for the first round to see our month. We have

five movies this month. Next week we're doing Fargo. Yeah. Week after just announced we're doing two live and die in LA. Sean's going to be an even though he's in like full Oscars thing. We're trying to kill Sean this month. I can do it. I just rewatched it. I'm very excited. We were saying outside we could probably start to live and die in LA. Rewatchables like right now. Like just do a blind. Yeah. Do you want to announce the other project? No, because I'm not positive

that's this month. Okay. We're going to do a six thing but it's either going to be a meal bag or the mystery project. Then we have two more, which we haven't decided on yet. It's constant negotiations. Yeah. It's the last one. LA confidential is the fifth one. Yes. I guess we didn't announce that one. We just did. Yes. It works. It's Chris pitching you on the movies. Yes. He is the

he can ultimately decide. Oh wow. Thank you. I don't think I've ever gotten you to say that.

So the fourth one. Why stop to prove it? I didn't. The fourth one. So the third one delivered

“the second one has been having moved. Is that count as a one for us or did people want that one?”

People want that. People are very pumped out. So we still have a one for us card for the fourth one. Sure. Sure. Or we could just go nuts. Well, I mean the streets really want a couple of big titles but I think we we we we we we we we we have to hold on rock to over four october. There's nothing like doing hunt for October and for the Philly's plan. So we're we're we're we're scouting a couple. I'm really honored to be a part of this. See our month. Yeah. Well,

every every month of your life has been to our month since like 2006. I'm but a joy and the gift to keep something great. Well, I said it's been to our month for him since then. 30 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're getting involved for the last. You know, the universal approval rating. Like that's that's it should be as other nicknames right before the fall. What we're going to do at peak here and then everything goes down. But I'm getting you redacted undredacted out of

Epstein. So now it's all going to come come to life. It's just Epstein being like this guy. See our loves heat. Chris wrote that scene. Yes, Cicario where Alejandro sexually assaults him. You know, well, we have heat in the background. What languages that who nip because they could do didn't you didn't

Spanish. Yeah. The why is I think we're not doing it. We're not doing it. We're not doing

“hunt of redact over. No, we're we're not doing aliens. We're not doing aliens. Is he? Because”

we're going to do aliens this summer. Yes. He says it's the anniversary. Yes. Okay. Okay. So no

hunt for our topper. No aliens. Yeah. We're going to hold on to that one. In case Jimmy Fox wants to do it. Just tense herandals watching her and anything. Is he probably can't believe he just got to

put a billion dollars to stick out of a deal. You're telling me I get $2.8 billion and these three guys.

“Yes. It's heat tagline. Epic of crime and obsession. Does it say that on the American post?”

It's an LA crime saga. It's a tagline. Interesting. There you go. All right. Thanks, Craig. We're back. Thanks to Gahau and Eduardo as well. Thanks to Jack Wilson. Everybody behind the scenes.

“It was very fun doing a Netflix live. Yeah. We had no real thanks to your gardener.”

Yeah. Thank you. Almost ruined the beginning of the pod. And we'll see you next week with Fargo on CRM. Thanks for watching.