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‘The Italian Job’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

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Bill, Chris, and Van hop in the Mini Cooper and dress up as cable guys to revisit the 2003 heist action film ‘The Italian Job,’ starring Mark Wahlberg, Charlize Theron, Edward Norton, and Jason Statha...

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There you go. [MUSIC] The Italian Job, 2003, Mark Wahlberg, Charlize, Jason Statham, Seth Green, Most Deaf, Ed Norton, who has taken a life of its own in this movie. We're going to really save this way of a nice spot to talk about this.

And this movie is just a great hang. And it's kind of everything I want in an hour and 50-minute movie. It's the great time. If I came to you in 2003 to be any of the year, and I said, "Do you like oceans 11?" And you're like, "Yeah."

And I was like, "Do you like fast and furious?" And you're like, "Yeah." I was like, "What have we put the two together?" Yeah. And had mini-coupers racing all over Los Angeles.

You take that. And this is what you get. This is a delightful paper. It's like the movie is the lesser version of oceans 11, but the prestige version of the fast and furious.

Exactly. And just incredibly watchable.

I saw it in the theaters, like, I think, two or three times.

My man is deaf and worked at the city place, so we will go there.

You always drop more like Bill's gonna know we're deaf.

My man is deaf and he's above. My man is deaf and man is deaf and I went to high school with him, and then he worked as a web to manager and we was just going crazy in a city place. We saw the town in jail.

I'm doing my CR things, who could have been Harrison Ford? We'll see. How does take right now? Wow. I think this movie basically super charges the fastest of furious franchise.

I think from fast-forward on, they heard the footage. They were like, "No, they, time job came out in 2003." And I think as they were trying to figure out how to expand fast-forward beyond, they were like, "You just do like what they did in the Italian job." And I think all the DNA from there leading to culminating in F. Gary Gray

directing Charlize and Stathom are all like fast-aider, fast-line together. But all that, when you watch how this movie set up, the different locations, we got to get a job. Let's get the crew together. Hey, have you met this person?

We have like the wise cracking person who's, you know, that we have the computer, internet person. We have like the driver. We have some love interest. We've got to go in these locations.

We have a crazy driving stance with a bad guy. This is fast. The fact that the movie ends up becoming about actually the personal relationships between the whole fact. These are people by the end.

Yeah, but it ended up with so why not more sequels?

What the fuck happened? How did we not have the Spanish job in the Australian job? It would be the Brazilian job. The Brazilian job? Yeah.

I mean, fucking wasted opportunity though. Robert's just making like, he's just making three movies a year. He couldn't have stuck in the world. I mean, Robert's arguably just goes on, like he's like, it can be called the Italian job.

It can be called, you know, whatever you want to call it. But like, I make these movies every 18 months anyway. So it's like, if you wanted to make it, you could have, but I thought it was a watch going back to this. It was such a great time capsule.

Not only to like a certain era of digital technology, a point in all of these people's careers where you're like, oh man, it's all out in front of you. This is crazy. And also a kind of Hollywood mid-table blockbuster

that's still cared enough about craft stuff where it was like, no, man, that fucking speedboat's really going to fly off

The back of another boat.

Yeah.

And crash into something.

You know what I mean? Like, it's not all going to be CGI.

There's not going to be CGI explosions. It's like real stunts, real machines. And the actors doing the stunts. Yeah. There's a bunch of stuff in this movie where you go.

What did they do that? They did that one in Venice with the two speedboats. They're coming down different canals. Right. And they have to turn and it's like, Jesus Christ.

I wonder, like, was there a take where they just crashed into each other? So cool last movie. Everybody looks great. Everybody looks great.

Everybody looks phenomenal. Like, you got excited when you saw the poster. Oh, Charlie's and Mark and most deaf is like, Oh, shit. You're like, I got to see that. I got to see what they all put together.

Ed Norton gives this movie a seriousness. That might have not existed. So we were talking about it.

That may have not existed.

Had he not been on it because you look at that guy. And you go, well, this has to be kind of a movie that you take. That's the guy from primal fear. That's a guy from primal fear. That's the guy from whatever whatever.

He's done all this. Ed Norton is the key person in this movie. Right. Because the weight that he brings for it's like, Oh, this isn't just fast to. Yeah.

This is a movie that Ed Norton has decided to be in. And as we'll go into later. He's really the one. Yeah. It was inspired by the 1960s and I British film.

It's kind of an homage. Yeah. I don't think I've been seeing that one. The international globe-trotting capability. You've got three world class cities.

Venice, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, all featured, you know.

And I think it had a little bit of that James Bond inventiveness of like taking things

that maybe you hadn't seen done in that certain way, like, you know, in a Bond movie. They'll have like a mini helicopter in and this, it's the mini Cooper. But it's just like the idea of like, what's it? What's something people haven't seen before when it comes to a car chase? Or when that comes to a, a heist.

Also kind of an underrated LA movie. Like, if you're talking about making them like this anymore, they don't like when you're watching this movie. Can you imagine they're trying to do this in Hollywood Boulevard now? Tough. No way.

They probably destroy the water supply for the entire city. They shut down Hollywood Boulevard. It was before we started working on Jimmy Show. So I think because they filmed the no-to. They shut it down for seven days.

Right. Like nobody could go on Hollywood Boulevard. 300 cars on Hollywood and Highlands for a week. Yeah, we're being able to do that. The movie is counting on you to buy into the fact that LA is a cool character in movies.

And movies used to do that. By the way, LA was much cooler in 2003. Like they had been a concerted effort to try to rejuvenate downtown and Hollywood. They're filming. I think in one in the research, SWAT, Hollywood homicide.

And this movie, we're all being filmed the exact same time in downtown LA. Like, I don't film fucking anything. I also like the idea that the person who cast this movie, she'll a jaffee. I think she was also the casting agent for Onterage. And there's like an LA set kind of collection of actors.

And you know, like Walberg and Norton are obviously on like the ascendancy and their careers here. But had Charlie's done monster yet. Like, no, no, no, that hasn't happened yet. Yeah. Like her serious turn.

Wait a minute. Let's make sure about that. But her serious turn. It's the same year. Yeah, but let me see when it came out.

I think there's a Seth Green interview where he's like she was telling me about monster.

Right. But I don't think it happened after. It's after. It's my third later. Her like ascendant to the top of the industry happens like just after.

Right. I mean, if we really want to dive into this with Charlize. This is, this is like one of those NBA seasons where you can't we have all the talent. When we're talking about Scarlet's coming up now. Yeah.

Angelina's at her peak. Yeah. You have Aniston and the friends crew. You have Charlize coming up out of nowhere. I know what you want to say.

What you want to say? I'm going to say this is the white Renaissance. This is the white growing. The white Renaissance. It's the white Renaissance.

How is it? How is it just a short fish? I know. I get no. I'm not talking about.

When the monsters walk about. Monster's boss got to be in that. That right there is a legendary performance. That's 83 point game right there. No one's put up those types of numbers since.

Make me feel good. Make me feel good. I was like, yeah, man. Make a feel good dog. Get to it.

Come on, Billy. But make a feel good. He got to say no. Just make your feel good. But yeah.

And you know what? I will say that if you look at the draft capital of all of those young ladies that that's a good draft class because they all paned out for the most part. And if you watch season one season two on to rise and a bunch of them are popping in on that one too because they would kind of dip into the world.

Yeah, you're looking at Charlize. This is basically seven years here. Devil's advocate which we've done in the rewatchables. That was 97. Two days in the valley was 96.

Extra not's wife was 99, which was bad. Yeah. That's depth, right. Rainier games 2000.

I'm always going to defend them.

I love that movie. Yeah. She's in a bunch of stinkers. Like bagger, vance, man of honor, sweet November 15 minutes. It goes on and on.

It hadn't really happened for yet.

And I really think it was this which made it ton of money.

And then monster. Okay. For the credibility. Yeah. Then she went up a level.

But I think she was. You know, you had her stock. For a few years.

What did you have her come in for for the pod?

2017, 18 range. Is that Mad Max? I think it was fast. Oh, okay. I don't remember because I blacked out.

Yeah. You weren't even there. Was it atomic blonde? Oh, maybe that. That was 20.

I love my body. I was levitating above myself. Yeah. But yeah. So this was kind of the end of that version of Charlize.

Yeah. I think. And then Walberg, who gets cast because of Gary Gray loves bookie nights, but it's funny. Watch him in this movie where it's it still feels a little dirt. Biglerish like the hair kind of has like innocent.

He's not really weathered Mark Walberg yet. He still seems young. Yeah. He's still figuring out how to carry a movie. He's had some hits and some misses.

He's trying with a big one for him. He's trying something. I don't think he ever tried again. Which is to do. The George Clooney oceans 11 thing as being the understated cool man guy.

Yeah. And after this, I don't think he really tries it again. He leans into the Mark Walbergness of almost every performance he's in after this. This movie has like a light touch that he doesn't usually do. Like he doesn't.

Comedy is a whatever. But contraband or like bunch of the like the thriller action movies he makes. The ones he's made with paper. Like they're kind of like the dude is very traumatized. Some of the very like bad is happened in his past.

He's a kit counting for this. It's almost like Charlize takes a lot of that because it's the Donald saw. Everyone plot line. So he's almost just like, it's not about the gold. It's about getting, you know, he's the steady hit.

He's the steady hit. It's a charisma role. Yeah. Right. Those boogie nights.

Then he's in the big hit. Corruptor three kings. The yards. Perfect storm. Which we did.

Yeah. Plan of the apes, which was bad. Rockstar, which was terrible in the truth about Charlize. So it wasn't really happening. But then after this, Huckabee is invincible, departed, shooter.

Other guys, fighter, like hey, he goes. Goes up a lot. Yeah.

All leading to Ted, which nobody saw in a million years.

Like he would ever be in a movie like that.

And I think the most successful one he's done.

But by the time he gets to take to my point. He officially knows about the Mark Wahlberg. Joe. And who he is. Yeah.

And he's playing into it. He's a high A listter. Yeah. By the time we get to the 2010s. Boy, God damn it.

Do I not rise for shooter? Not only do I think that there's nothing wrong with shooter. I'm not, I know that my taste is shit. I think shooter is a legit banger. Can we do shooter?

We did fucking love shooter. Oh, we did shooter. What do you mean? What do you mean? Like, I, I, I, I must have been.

Oh, I swear. I must have been fucking swaggedly swagger. One last job. Well, I must have been on shooter. It was YouTube and Shay.

Right. Oh, that makes sense. Glover comes in. Yeah, Shay's perfect for that. Glover comes in.

And he won't. Evil, Danny Glover. Evil, Danny Glover. The best comes in. He wants to get Bob Lee swagger's fucking attention.

So he shows him his metal of honor. Wow. Like that type of shit. Bro. Shooter is great.

Shooter is great. Some, some Kate Mary. Marlin. Hi. [LAUGHTER]

But yes. It's like, say, Bob Lee swagger goes in shooter. And Max on his dead spotters. Bro. What?

It doesn't even feel bad. I'll fuck with it. It was a little like in homicide when Brodie's wife starts checking up with Mike, which I just watched. [LAUGHTER]

And then Brodie came home. It's like, hey, home land. Not on the other side. Not on the other side. The homeland.

We back, back over for dinner. I don't think so. You like Brodie's wife at home land, man? The home land, the show. I've never seen it.

Really? What season are you on now? The blond spot. I stopped after two. Okay.

I lost dentures. Ednorton. We could do it now.

Do you want me to say what the categories would have been?

Because this is going to be my flex. Yeah. Do your flex now. Do it now. My flex was going to be.

I had a two-parter. I was going to give Ednorton the Steven Sagaal, shooting on himself a word from most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot. I had that right there, which was the Norden casting saga. I also was going to give Ednorton a special reverse Peter North award

for the least amount of effort put into the movie. AKA the drivler.

Just basically his vibe when he's standing around and getting his cable fixed in this movie.

He's like, I was in fuckin' primal fear, man. What are we doing here? And this is why we have to talk about this at the top. One of the reasons this movie so rewatchable is how bizarre Ednorton's performances

I forgot until doing the research.

The whole story in the background.

And then it all makes sense because he's basically warm and rounders,

but on autopilot. Yes. It's like he went into the closet and he's like, I'll just bring out warm. But I don't, my heart's not really in it. And he's got the same mustache beard thing.

This is a scumbag like worm is, but just doesn't, it's a mail-in. Now everybody-- But it's a fun mail-in. I got to say. The movie said that he was nothing but professional.

Right. Okay. But leading up to the film, he had signed a two movie deal with Paramount. It was primal fear and then two more. Okay.

So basically, it was primal fear.

He becomes an Oscar-onominated, best young actor of his generation. Going up for all these different roles against Damon and Affleck, and all these guys are jocking for you're going to be in the rainmaker, but I'm going to be in-- Yeah.

So he was 75K for the movie after primal fear and then 125K for the one after. Yes. And then as CR says, he ascends. And so he keeps doing these other movies for other studios and Paramounts. Like, you've got-- you fucking owe us some movies, man.

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So what if he's a big dude? Yeah. That's a part of it. Yeah. He's very intimate.

It's a comfortable ball player. Yeah. Yeah. You can feel it. Anyway.

That's my shit. That's okay. Cool. We were like, hey, shit mate. Jim is like, how are you?

Did Mr. Digimmy thing and then kind of diffused it.

Right. Yeah. It was weird. Anyway.

60 million dollar budget for a kind of choppy.

What? One 76.1 million. It's a lot of money for a three. Yeah. He's not bad.

How much of the missing? Ebert. I don't know. Ebert. Three stars.

Yeah. He was like, hell yeah. Slick Capre movies. Two pennedest chase scenes. A truly ingenious way to steal 35 million and gold bars.

Well, two hours of mindless escapism. And then he wrote, if I had seen it, he saw that con. Can, con, can. Yeah. If I had seen it instead of the can entry, the brown bunny.

I would have wept with gratitude. Ebert, not a fan of the brown bunny. And then you also get to kill a, even to gallot, not a fan of it, Roger Ebert. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like Plain. When an international conspiracy turns dead, they stay thumb. Goes off the grid on a one-man mission. Yeah. To take down those responsible.

Let's go. Just call this statement. Yeah, I'm there. Relax. We'll see.

It's mentioned Shirley is talking to her dad. I'm just throwing that in there. You're just a first scene. First scene. Just hey dad.

Where are you? You're having a phone call. Okay.

The safe-hised speedboat chase everything.

Yes. Combined that together. Let's fuck and go. Wow. Incredible.

Incredible.

A setting, incredible use of gondola boats.

Confusing but awesome, like underwater. Rob. I like that. Yeah. Just fantastic.

A little confusing but really fantastic. Has Venezuela not worked as a movie location. No, it's one of the most filmable places in the world. You just people riding around on boats like their cars. It's amazing.

The danger is there all the time. It makes it more dangerous. The light. The light. Yeah.

It's incredible. Get Italians. Just get mad at you for no reason. Yeah. Hey.

One boat's moving slow. The other boat's moving fast. It's in the water. Duck it under the bridge. What's going to happen?

It seems great. Suddenly. I really like his toast. Where he starts dispensing, Donald's other on the advice. Yeah.

And give you some. He's only in this movie for 15 minutes. Here's all his wisdom from the movie. Fine stands for a freaked out and scared neurotic and emotional. Trust everyone.

Just don't trust the devil inside them. The ones who steal to enrich their lives. Or the ones who steal the to find their lives. Don't be the latter. Steal to enrich your life.

Sending presents doesn't make you a good father. Find someone you want to spend the rest of your life with and hold on to her forever. And he gets shot. Did you shot? Somebody.

The sky was Mr. Miyagi and waiting. I just got that fucking gun down. You know what? So they're criminals, right? But you know what the movie does.

And that's the short time that he's in the movie. They make him a character worth missing. Yes.

It's tell that everybody's life is going to be a good one.

I love you. I love your kid. And besides that character enough so that his death is shocking. Yeah. They're shocking.

You know what reminds me of? It reminds me of mission impossible. You know how at the beginning of the movie. John Boyd is in the film. And then the team gets fucked up.

They do something really awesome in that movie, which is they just take him out of this situation. Which when he comes back, you're like, "Oh my God, it's very exciting." But this one, you believe that these people will call a lesson around each other to get revenge for their master. Yes. It's good.

Can crew. Then we get the double cross. So I guess that's three different scenes. But I think this whole first twenty minutes being at the end. It's like twenty first twenty two.

It's really good. There's actually like basically five scenes in this movie. Yeah. It's just going to move it around. It's like Venice, Philly, and three L.A. scenes.

It's going to be Pete. Do you crannies? Yeah. Good double cross. Evil Ed Norton seems like the only time he enjoyed being in the movie.

When you watched it the first time this time. Did you remember the double cross? Yeah. I remember the double cross. Because you know, Norton's the bad guy.

But I like when though. When people are underwater in a scene like this and everybody.

The villains always make the same mistake where they fire bullets.

And they're like, all right. We got him. Let's go. Let's go sell the brain. I'll say.

I'm just staying in another five minutes. Yeah. This is the worst one. Maybe ever. Yes.

This is the worst of all. Because he knows they have the scuba deer geared in the car. Also, the water's freezing. So if you stay in there for a second. They're all.

They're egg. We're not up air. But B. I'd be a thirmy is going to say, like, they're cooked. It's over.

Yeah. It's an epic. Right. If the bullets of the hypothermia. Something's killing them.

Right. At some point, you have to leave. Because there's been a lot of shooting and stuff like that.

Maybe the authorities are going to come.

But you're in the room. It's on the border.

You're playing in a very hot spot.

Yeah. I like the end of the Alps. That was fun. I loved it. Beautiful.

Next scene. Charlize fixes. Edron's cable. Yeah. It's great.

I love it. She's like, oh, I just flipped the switch. It's working now. Right. He's like, cool.

You want to go to-- I want to go to Wolfgang Park. I like scenes like this where somebody has to pretend. They have a normal job. But they're way too attractive.

That job. Yeah. Um. I don't know. I enjoyed the whole thing.

Norton kills the diamonds guy. Charlize and Edron have a date. Yep. Mm-hmm. I liked him.

Right up until the moment I shot him. Mm-hmm. Also, this gives us a staple for one of these movies. Who you working with? Somebody comes out of the back.

Yeah. She's with us.

And then you should see now your daddy beg for his life.

I think I'd had a good time in this scene. Yes. It's one of like, there's three scenes where he tries. Maybe he was going to get to sleep in his own bed that night. Yeah.

Yeah. He hit a bar on the way home. It was good. They were getting out of there at 8 p.m. Everything in Italy, he was pretty much dialed in a little bit.

Yeah. It's really at his house and the last chasing. It seems like he's like, what the fuck am I doing? What's happening here? Other above our car chase.

We have the three cars beating the subway train is great. We have the road blowing up right in front of basically the man theater. We have the safe switch. I like the thing where it's the three safe. And they have to guess which safe it is or which truck it is.

We get another river chase which. Other way to live and die. Now I right behind you. Other river chase also undefeated. Every time.

It's in Gondos. LA river.

I've never not enjoyed a chase in either one of those places.

Terminator two. And they're really high in kind of how the fuck did they do this. Why didn't this could have been to a really bad situation. The helicopter stuff. Like the helicopter's fucking low.

Yeah.

It feels like it's like a 50 foot ceiling in that last.

I don't know how they did that. It seemed dangerous. Maybe that's why the norm wasn't happy. I don't think he's actually in the helicopter. Steve gets caught would be the last one.

You're right. No imagination. What he got from us were actually one. One addition is just the putting the team together and the back stories. Scene.

I love putting the team together. And Isaac called left there. Isaac called handsome. I got that one in the next category. But the driving rain scene where we meet.

Skinny Pete. Love. Skinny Pete. Skinny Pete. Seeing another stuff.

I can't say. Yeah. But most deaf is really good in that scene. Yeah. We didn't talk a lot about most deaf.

But like at this particular point, most deaf is ascending rapidly. It was a big deal that he was in this movie. Yeah. What was the Bruce Wallace movie he was in?

Yeah. So something 12 blocks or something like that. 12 blocks. Yeah. So he's in that.

Then, you know, of course, he's in brown sugar. And then he does the Michelle Gondry movie. Which is be kind of rewind. Like he is legitimately one of the ones that people look on. Okay.

For like the next X amount of years. Most deaf is going to be one of the bigger stars. And how do you feel about that name choice? Most deaf. Yeah.

I love it. He like it. And he goes about, you know, you're asking me now. Most deaf. Most deaf is to me a staple creative that era.

Yeah. So it's just like the black star record and the first most deafs. The records are both like Wallace. Amazing. Worst name choice out of all the name choices.

Out of all the name choices for rappers. Yeah. You should get up. There's some way worse rap names. You think most deaf is a better one?

I'm not saying him. I'm saying what's your favorite. What was one? Because you say a coolio earlier was terrible. Yeah.

It just sounds like a place you get ice cream. It's like one of the coolias to have. They've aren't sure. Yeah. It's coolio.

I would say that there's not to pick on them because just the whole song is about picking on them. But Skeelo. Which was a little bit taller guy. Yeah.

It's like we've never going to be.

The Skeelo is not this a tough one. But now to me, the worst they are, the better they end up being. The movie's just to use you around there. Do you feel like Bubba Sparks could have been bigger if he wasn't named Bubba Sparks? The thing is that's a good question.

The thing is that because he was Bubba Sparks, that's why he was big in the first.

That kind of made us go, okay. This is a white guy. Bubba Sparks. He's Bubba. But he's hot.

He's Bubba Sparks shit. Let's give him a chance. And then he did it. And we, you know, we went. Do you think hello cool Jay was a good name or no?

At that point it was a perfect name. Yeah. LL was like a crazy good name. It just became LL. Yeah.

At that point it was a perfect name. But when you know what the acronym stands for, it gets worse. Ladies love cool James. Yeah, the back point is you know, you know, you know, great. Go fuck yourself.

It's like, ladies love cool James.

We're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going t...

I want to again, you're just back to you know what, you know what, your generation,

I don't love the ladies, the ladies don't love y'all.

I mean, you're doing well. I'm calling it like everybody else. It's not. It's one of the best names ever. Ladies love the ladies love the cool Jay.

I don't the air conditioner. I never come back on. I don't know what you're saying. I don't know what you're saying. Do you remind me, I get to turn the air conditioning up.

All right, back to the pod. What do we pick for most of the watchable? Oh, so my most rewatchable is actually the opening, the Venice stuff. That's easily. Easily.

Yeah. I wanted to tell you something coming on. You want to bang it out. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree.

If you're a fan of the beatkeeper, the mega, the expandable.

This is exactly the kind of movie you'd want to see. State them in. One of the finding action stars the last 25 years doing what he does best. Die hard on a boat. That's what they float at his meeting.

Yeah. Mutiny, only in theaters August 21st, radar for strong, bloody violence. I'm going in language. Yeah. Don't need to sell the three of us.

What is the most 2003 thing about this movie? It's very, very specific experience. It's one of the best easiest answers we've had from course. It's obviously it's Lyle saying you even didn't have some answer. But I also have a subcategory for this, which is this was the last moment where a hacker

character could just say a lot of mumbo jumbo and the audience was like, sounds right. We're like, I have a tectronic codex that's going to read the magnesium and you're like, okay. Now we'd all be like, I fucking read about AI.

I don't think that's how it works or whatever.

Yeah. But like back then, this was the one moment where you still had true geeks who were like, I lured over this text stuff so that you guys don't have to worry about it. I have Lyle admitting Napster is one of the easiest answers. Yeah.

I've been even by 2006, nobody's being angry that they invented Napster. Well, that's going to be the fact that Sean Fanning gets 40 seconds of screen time in this movie. I think actually, the Napster thing was already long and a tooth by the time this came out. It was like the last year. Yeah.

Because they obviously in the movie, they're like, this dude is Zuckerberg. Like, this is Steve Jobs. This is going to be like, people look back. They're going to be like, I can't believe the world's richest man is in this movie. And it's like, obviously not.

What happened, yeah, I have a Hollywood Boulevard seeming like alive and great. Because it really wasn't no three. It was, it was in great shape. You wanted to go there and now I don't think you do. Well, it had, when I first got out here, wasn't no three, it was no six.

But Hollywood Boulevard had been revitalized to where it was the, the hub of everything. The spot like a billion dollars reviving. Yeah. And that lasted, because even when I was out here a little after that,

Hollywood was still teeming with life on a Friday night with young people going to the club and all that stuff. Yeah. And it just ended. It ended at COVID.

Yeah, it just, it just ended.

And now it's just, I think COVID wasn't great.

I was always more of a sunset guy.

Oh. It's more of a sunset guy. Yeah. What's your favorite sunset bar all time? Mm.

Well, that's a good question. Yeah, gone now gone. Yeah. The demo's awesome. The demo's great.

Where's Joe Bow's? Joe Bow's. [ Laughter ] Which one have somebody to talk to? Joe Bow's is awesome.

Joe Bow's is on Hollywood, right? Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. But it's East. It's East.

It's East, yeah. Very, very East. Like a little Armenia. One more 2003 thing about this movie. Seth Green's like really important in it.

Yeah. Yeah. And it was right near the end. He has a great newsletter. He's on entourage as East foil.

Mm-hmm. But I thought Seth Green was really good in this. The Floyd Gundal, a butter on my ass. Lawy pops of my mouth award for something I just enjoy. What do you have here?

Just any time the head of a crew is like, this is this guy's job. This is what this guy does. This is what this guy does. This is why they call him handsome Rob because he's handsome.

Yeah. It's like, it is one of the most repeatable pleasures in cinema as an introducing a crew. An origin montage as I have done it. Just like all of these guys and how they got their star.

Also gold bars and movies. Just love movies where it's like gold bar. Yeah. I don't know whether they should be 10 times more expensive or 10 times less expensive.

But yeah, then it does a good job explaining the criminal mindset about gold and like the untraceability of it and all that stuff. It's good. Also, the fried cable bit here. They do that movies all the time where your cables fried

and then they go in undercover to like, yeah, lay on you or like put the bug your shit.

I love that because that's actually how they both

Paul Casanova.

They actually did that in real life the government.

I messed up his TV. Then sent people into fixed the TV. Didn't plug his shit. And that's where it comes from. My fluid is I like it movies when they mess with the

stuff like it's in the intersections. It's like watch this. Yeah. And then just everybody. What the hell.

It's like very, I mean, this is a very specific LA traffic movie that I think is actually fairly accurate. Yeah. Like in terms of like, it's geography and stuff like that. Yeah.

Like how hard it is to get from from Highland, that over down to the main station and everything. And like, it's very good. Very good. What's the best?

One last job. Why does a person alone? It was a one last job. Yeah. For another one.

It was. I like any time it's said in a movie. Yeah. LA River as an action location. I have early 2000s mini coupers.

Which I don't feel like they're going best. I just, I like that era of mini coupers. How small and kind of fast. And they felt like they had some connection to James Bond movies.

And now I don't think that. I think the being of you had just re-done their engines. Yeah.

And so that's why there was such hot shit.

I'll be interested to see if you guys think that, you know, this is the mini clupper apex mountain. I have something else.

Here's what's aged the best.

All the cast members did their own driving. They all said Charlie's was the best of all the drivers. Mm-hmm. I'm cooking. Doesn't, doesn't need a husband.

Yeah. Just one night stands. And she's a better driver than you. She's just a fucking best. Most of the worst driver.

Because he was from New York City and didn't drive. So that's actually learn how to drive. What do you got for what's aged best? Just real vehicles doing real chases and real places. Yeah.

Bam. So a bunch of things. The smoking death counter that look different. But it still exists. You still drive by a bunch of people died from smoking.

Like the price of a grenade launcher. So they, they, the economics of this movie will be discussed in depth. Like so they go to here and it's like they give them all this stuff. And they go like I need a grenade launcher. It's $5,000.

I was like, you know what a grenade launcher must be much more expensive. You probably can't get one from $5,000. So I went and looked actually typed that in the search was probably should've done. And not only are grenade launches like lawful, but you can get one for like two grain.

You can get a grenade launcher. A lawful grenade launcher. You have to be a TF registered. But you can get a grenade launcher for two grain.

What possibly use could you have for a grenade launcher?

I mean, I don't know. That makes me nervous. Yeah. Like to remind me of Vice Bruce Willis is buying those grenades. You could shoot at the plane.

Yeah. Those are like 80k. And the price dropped. Yeah. Like the money that gets spent versus the money that's coming in will be a discussion.

So two more ear flex. No. I just want to get into it. That's more of a picking net. So two more things.

One, both Korean driving ranges. Yes. Age of the best. K-town. And terrifying.

Some Owen do's. Which is this thing around LA. You know, you go below the tin. Some more brothers down there. And those dudes are honored in 10 of thieves.

Yeah. They've they've. Age of the best. Yeah. So, you know.

I've been to that driving range a bunch. That's a cool place. And last thing. The shop owner and this actually predicts the financial crisis. [ Laughter ]

He didn't miss all these poor bastards putting their money in banks and SNL and mutual funds. What do they think? When the collapse comes, they can depend on the government. The collapse came like five years later. Four years later.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the winner. Great shot. Gordon Award.

Would you go. There's a Southern one's body popping out of the water. No. I had the pan up out of Venice and then the pan down into the air. Oh, the scut when they shut this guy.

That's good. Chess Rockwell, Brockliners were a best character name. Left there is pretty good. I got to go hand some rob. Okay.

I got to go skinny. Pete. Good names in this movie. Kid cut it should have happened. It's where a best needle drop that California soul song.

It's great song. There's also just a lot of things. It's used in a lot of movies. It's used in a lot. And at this point, it bothered me when I heard it in this movie.

But I think it was kind of like a digging in the crates find.

Right. Right. And I also like a lot of focus. Like the radio techno that they play while guys are driving around. Was there a better title for this movie?

I mean, it's more of an LA job. Yeah. Probably the Hollywood job. They do say the name. Yes.

They do say the Italian chef. Sir. I can't tell you where you did it. I didn't like this. Which is girlfriend award weekly in the film.

Let's go. Let's talk about the money. Oh. Okay. We could do that.

I know they make $27 million in their

price. But to my eyes, just on like the outlay of funds for the two hice, I think they might be coming out like a couple million in the black.

They're basically the Dodgers.

Yeah. They're spending $1.2 billion on players to make $400 million. I don't understand. The gold. Do you think the gold should have been worth like $130 million?

So they when they initially steal it in Italy. It's 35 million. Yeah. And it's a couple bars. And the end of the movie.

They steal 27. Which means Norton has only spent eight. Yeah. And with those eight million dollars in 2003, he buys a 12,000 square foot mansion in an L.A. He has his own private security.

He's like an army. Yeah. He has like an army. And that's all just an inch. And he's spent.

He has three armored trucks taking money to the airport. He has a helicopter. He might have other bread. He also saved money by only wearing tank tops. So watching.

Yeah. And then the movie ends today. Give some of the money to the Ukrainians. Well, how much do you think of the 27 million? They give to the Ukrainians.

It's good to ask for all of that.

You have to give them at least at least seven.

How much would it cost just to do these jobs? Well, that's the thing is that the outlay of money to get the warehouses, the cars, the technology, everybody's eating, sleeping, whatever, on and on and on. And that's saying it cost 27 million dollars.

But like, did Mark Wahlberg just have that lying around. But yeah, like, most dev is not going to be able to pay the property taxes on his new Spanish villa.

He's always wonder if I was allowed to put these in there too.

First editions. Obviously, I have to make. Like, I have this. Everybody has this because it doesn't seem like that much money was. I wondered if it was the time.

I mean, this basically like Kevin Herders contract at this point. So like, it's so funny. I was thinking about it and be a contrast to. Yeah. It's like 20, 27 million dollars.

They stayed Jordan pool is going to make more money this year than they did. And they do an entire deal. The whole fucking thing. He's like, he's got more breath than it. Yeah.

So unless you want to go live in Baton Rouge, he's this money not going to just spend it. It's five people. So now it's five and a half million. But it would be getting some kind of green money.

You know, if they did like a way they're doing all the videos.

Now we're guys like, look, 10 million five million goes to Uncle Sam, right?

We got a bunch. So like, if you had Charlie be like 27 million. Well, I spent 20 just on shit to get these ice rolling. Why are these videos? Why is this one of the things that's happened this summer? Because the videos get a lot of engagement.

But it's the same video every time. People know at this point that, yeah, I made a hundred million taxes. I'm down to 50. I can't be honest with you.

People never get sick of how somebody made money.

And people never get sick of how they fucked it. But we did when we did broke that was like the most watched 30 people just had. Yeah, it's like other than the you. Yeah, people, you got to pay taxes. You got to pay an agent.

You got to pay all of this stuff like we've heard the story. But people just never get, they never get sick of how you fuck your money. Never. Sounds like a podcast too. Well, they don't walk to where it was like two, three million each.

Probably right. Maybe four. No, because they didn't pay taxes because this was, they were stealing money. Well, this is also a just in a universe outside of law enforcement. Because there is none.

So, this is the bigger question for the for the risk for the amount of money they made. They blew up Hollywood Boulevard. Just giant hold.

To say nothing in the facts is not to mention like was anyone heard the explosion?

This is O three. So, after 9/11, a criminal is flying low. The brain altitude. And we're going to have to find out. Oh, I'm thinking about that.

Three things Hollywood. There's no fucking way. That's the biggest knit.

The biggest knit is if you guys never been out here before, you go to look.

Or you go see police helicopters all in the sky. Yeah. They're up there for 60 seconds. They scrambled the LAPD to get over and it's up there and a whole fucking plan is fucked. We don't see cops ever in the last half hour of this movie.

Can we see a cop in the movie? They're flying in the LLA. They have a river, she's driving around. There's cops in Venice. Oh, yeah.

But. Yeah, I don't see how this was worth. I think the gold, but I think the mistake is the gold bar should have been worth like 100 million bucks. Yeah.

Like real real big stakes. Yeah. It's interesting because. Oceans 11 comes out before this. Yeah.

And the take from Oceans 11 is what? 60 60 60 some odd million dollars or something like that. So at least they knew that it had to be a significant money. Because they had to. They had to match what gold was worth.

It was a hundred and sixty million in Oceans 11. Yeah. That that's that's enough. That's what we got to put that way. I know.

That makes a lot of sense though. You split that 11 ways and you give a lot of money to the fingers. Eight years previous. Neil McColley takes down the bank in downtown L.A. And that's between 12.2 and 12.8 million.

Now they don't get away with it. But that is half of what those guys take. With very little of the way you could argue that wasn't enough. It wasn't. But it was not did the mother boards.

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Here's the thing. I sent you a couple of this. This is also the Ednor and Reverst Uncle Word for the this movie. Need a random sports scene ironically. Ednor.

Uh, we have Walberg dressed up to play basketball. We have Jason Stathon there. And yet we only see a snippet of a basketball scene. And it involves Jason Stathon playing some of the worst defense. I've ever seen in a vast corner.

I think the more he can do the thing is that he doesn't know how to check ball.

He doesn't. It's literally he doesn't even know what's happening. Yeah. And Walberg's going by him. And it's like he didn't even realize you could do that.

They're not playing they're not playing ball in London. No, three.

Like it's it's a foreign concept in lean into it and be like this guy's never played basketball.

He's worth a long scale sweatshirt and I almost wonder whether he was like, are we going to do boxing today? And they're like, no, we couldn't get the gyms. You guys are going to be in the outdoor basketball. He's like, what's that? I wonder about this deal from a Mark Wahlberg standpoint as well.

So we could hooper. You. I mean, is this ask about theirs? He was good. Is he?

No, yeah. Okay. Because Leo is the weekman. But I was wondering about this. Because he puts basketball in a lot of movies.

I wonder if he was out there. No, he's a real hooper. He's a senior. He's a senior. I think those guys might.

I don't know if he killed him like that. No, I'm saying for an actor. He's good. He's away from when he's shooting in the warehouse. They keep cutting away and like, you hear swish.

And you're like, all right, man. Okay. So if I don't want to keep. We're in shock. He can't back my diaries.

He's good though. I don't know Bill. I'm just. I'm just still. He's fine.

By was he.

Do you tell me on the streets of South Boston, AKA Mississippi?

Was he killing people and like going to get. And going nuts. It's like it seriously. He puts basketball. Marky Mark played basketball.

He played basketball. Have you marked in the funky bunch? Please basketball. And these plays basketball in a lot of different movies. Compared to.

Woody Harrelson. Who is an actual really good basketball. Yes. He's not good like that. Yes.

But I think for an actor. You know, one of one gets Dave's a Kobe. Oh, you're Kobe would kill him. Okay. There you go.

How's now with a fake hip would probably beat Mark Walbert? He's just supposed to be a replacement. Yeah. Really? Well, how's good.

You say how's going to hoop like that? How's was great? Hmm. I can see. How's was the most fun guy to play with?

We're talking about it like he's for our team. That's so much fun play with us. He was great. But I thought aren't you guys both connective tissue guys? Like aren't you guys both like.

Yeah. Can you answer Kobe? Oh, wow. Yeah. It's like Princeton.

You know? Everyone is. My two favorite guys have ever played with. Jacobie. Jacobie in house.

Yeah. Hmm. My flex is associated with the wallberg basketball thing.

I think we need to know ward for this moment.

Like when he shoot hoops and they cut and he's like, what about the Italian job? He like, switches. I feel like that is a moment that Mark Walbert demanded be in the movie because he's like, I'm not a basketball. That wasn't in the script.

So the Mark Walbert and Italian job. Let's put this in because I want to show people good at sports. You can also show. Imagine like they're like, hey Ed, we're going to switch sets in a minute. We're going to strike this one.

But just we got to get one more pick up here. Mark, Mark's trying to make a 10 footer. Yeah. And it's just like he fucking kidding. It's like it's 502.

Yeah. Fuck this. Yeah.

If I'm in a movie and I feel like I got a good fastball.

I'm like, can we have a scene where I'm just throwing pitches in the back yard just so I can show my athleticism? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's definitely a wallberg thing. This is another reason why there's so many movies with Kevin Costner on a horse. No, it's why he's and it's also why he just is like, I can fucking play baseball.

Yeah, you know, like baseball, horse, Kevin Costner, my dad used to always looking Kevin Costner

to be like, this and motherfucking ride. Yeah. So you get good. Like he could, he's a good horseback ride. Golfs another one like this.

Yes. Curb does this because Larry will put himself in this skirt and these golf scenes and curb. Really, because he just wants to show off like his drives. Wood hairs. Who's a good basketball player?

Whoops. You know, the scene in the wire. Why don't you catch this in the loft for the stringer. Right. Wood would know he nice and would just want to dump it all on the people on the wire.

And if you go back and watch it, seeing this is not a shot at Idris. But there's another English guy. It just looks like it with the fuck is this. Yeah.

The way he throws the lobby doesn't look like he's ever been on the court before.

Soccer guys. But you've given the soccer ball. I've got a pro Joe basketball coaching is still one of my favorite wire scenes. Yeah. I love nothing more than when sports trips and the movies.

I believe the wall breaks stroke. Did he play it? He's kind of crying. He forced it. I love it.

He believed you say that again. I like it. He was a little delante Westish. No. You believe it was.

The stroke is shooting strong. Believe in a stroke. That's tough one. It's a gigantic pause. What stage the worst?

The last shot of Wahlberg and Charlize is such a male in. Like, and they found love. And it's just like this quick shot of them on a boat. It's like almost like CGI then. I just never believe.

They tried to make a run at it when he's like, do you want to have a drink with me in the hotel?

And she's like, no, I should get to bed. And it's like, all right. Like, this isn't going to happen. And then when they tried to make it happen at the end, you're just like, Nobody believes this guy.

It was completely unarmed. You see the reason they try to even have like a a momentary awkwardness where you walk in. Don't look. Don't look.

But they never build on the sexual torture.

No, it's like almost like there's a scene missing. Yeah, like there's something to talk about. By the way, when fast when the fast franchise decided to rip off the Italian job going forward, one of the things they they learned from was the lack of chemistry between Wahlberg and Charlize. And they were like, we're going to get Golgedo and this.

She's going to be going to have the eye of the tiger. It's going to look. Can get Van engaged in this. I'm into. Okay, sorry.

Any other what's in your worst. Napster pretty much like cyber stocks is ex girlfriend and. Having Stella have basically like this whole thing is being built up to her date with Steve. And she's like he doesn't know what I look like. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't know who I am.

And like, but I am going to use my dad's catchphrase. Like, that's just like a major like. This this woman seems really sharp.

I think that she would probably avoid that.

So Jason state them's. Hair covered head as age the world doing this now. Yeah, we're going to do it now. Okay, because he decides to go ball and then after that, he's the man. I have thoughts about this.

Why we don't see this anymore. I know the actor that changed it. Jamie Pipp. Because he grew his hair out. No.

And he got a chair chair just like after this, the hair transplant became in vote. So what happens is you see guys like, you know, the kale and all of these other guys. A lot of the people I could name, too, that actually get hair transplants. Instead of just doing a Bruce Willest thing or doing the Jason stays. Some thing or letting the widows peak or whatever whatever.

Let's state them goals ball. But if he would have come after our goal, he would have probably gotten a hair transplant. I think one of the last. I'm so I'm too fucking hard to do it. But by the time like Jeremy Pipp and popped up with Ari Gold, he looked nothing like himself.

He legitimately looked 15 years younger. We were so used to him being a little bit partly. Yeah. And be having a receding here a lot that when he came back, it was like shit.

And I think that was very important in hair transplant cultural technology.

We're just tributal to fit into this. I mean, it's on another planet. Yeah, his shit was like fucking luxurious. He went crazy. Domestic disturbances the last time before he was like, alright, I'm going to really spend some real money. [laughter]

I know for this L.G. Post. I'll tell you, Paul 13, Hank's was, we talked about it when he was out there. Yeah, Hank's. Hank said the peninsula. You think he had one?

Well, he definitely had. It was further back. [laughter] Benethy's Benihana word, scene still in location. It's got to be Venice. Hans Gruberscale, villain racking, where do we put--

I'm going to go.

Honestly, there's a perverse joy I get out of how little he gives a fuck. So I'm going to give him like a six.

Yeah, I had five. He's right in the midst.

But he plays, obviously, the detachment was real. But his detachment in the movie kind of works for the movie. It's great in the final scene where he just doesn't care anymore. Because he's so happy. Yeah.

It's the last day of the shoot. He's like, I know. I don't know. You got me. Jesus.

Overacting a word? I don't really feel like crying, brother. Hmm. Okay. All right.

We'll take a break and then Ben's got a flex. Ben, you have a flex. Yes. So this is movie have a porn parody.

The answer is no, but I do have a pitch.

I have a pitch for the porn parody version of this. Now, I wanted to star, but I'm not going to star. I'll direct. Um, it's called the Italian jobs with an S. Uh, so I have the Z.

It could be jobs with the Z. Now you're thinking. Now you're thinking. Now you're thinking. She's trying to help.

So Ricky Johnson of Ricky's room is going to star as a black man who realizes he's the descendant of the Morris who conquered Southern Italy. Oh my god. Yeah.

So he goes to Italy to find his roots with his black girlfriend.

She's played by Scarlett Scandal. And he might be a porn star. Are these porn actors? Don't worry about it. Um, like just relax and.

Okay. Okay. Uh, and he finds out that there's still a turf. We're going on in Italy. Hmm.

You know. But it's still of guns. Are you sex? Yeah. Okay.

It's happening.

So there's an organized crime family of beautiful Italian women that he has to take

down the sense great in order to win. The capos or moaners are Valentina Bianco and the boss is Valentina Nappy. Okay. This is the way they fight. They hate porn stars.

Okay. Whatever man, you know guy. If you guys don't know the life, you don't know the life. They have to engage in sexual warfare. Him and the family against everyone there that's in Southern Italy.

First one to come loses. Different jobs. And jobs. Blow jobs. All kinds of things.

And he has to defeat them. To reclaim Italian jobs jobs. You know what I like about you? What? You still care about story.

I do. I was just going there with stories. With nothing else. But to reclaim Italian jobs. The, the, the, his morsh ancestral kingdom.

Yeah. He has to go there and win all of these different jobs. And maintain his relationship. This is a high-end, uh, x-rated vehicle. I'm ready to shoot it.

This is what puts Jack Horner out of business. Yeah. Oh, I have something. I have something. The last line here.

Bring her films. Yeah. For sharpnessy. Exactly. Produce.

Let me check. Bring her films with a Z. With a Z. Yeah. My vertical.

Bring her films. That's it. I like it. It's better than half a time job. Mm-hmm.

See our things Luke Wilson could have been here as support. How to take a word. I already did mine. Did you do yours? No.

I've tried to think of the right way to put this. But I think John Wick killed my brain. So when I watch this movie now. I'm just like shooting. Like every hit.

Like almost every scene. I'm like how come nobody just pulls out a gun and kills him right here. He's the guy. He's the guy who killed Donald Sutherland. Yeah.

Like killing. You got him. Do we have him for a play? Yeah. And also if you're Ed Norton and you've already shown the capacity to kill Donald

Sutherland. Just shoot these people or have these people killed. And you shot the Ukrainian guy. But there's just like a weird rule in this movie of when gun violence can't or can't be deployed.

And I think modern action movies have kind of made it hard to watch.

Cause you're like, I don't understand. Like he killed Donald Sutherland. You're supposed to just take this dude out. What do you have? Us.

You know. Charlize Theron. Therein. Whatever you call her. Is the White Hallyberry.

I have no intellectual thoughts to back this up.

I've always felt this way.

They each have an Oscar. Like they they're mirroring each other. And weird ways. They it's like they're the bizarre version of one another. I don't have it fleshed out and thought out.

I actually wanted you guys to help me make this case. I feel she's the white little older a little bit. Just a little bit like seven or eight years a little older. But the potent female forces didn't seem like they could be happy alone if they have to be absolutely like they have the one Oscar each like you said.

And they in franchises been in franchise. I've really figured out social media had to make splashes. Like how did that juicy peach thing. Right. Yeah.

Charlize had that whole thing about. She's like I just like one night stands with twenty twenty something guys. Yeah. They just come and do their business. They are.

They're placed on the desire ability scale. Yeah. And we are invested in them both culturally and on the screen. They are. Have they been in a movie together?

I don't think so. Yeah.

I feel it work.

It's almost like having two dominant ball handlers on the same right.

It's like, is there such enough ball around for them?

Hopefully. Many years to come. The Van Lathen award did this movie. We're black people. I think so.

Yeah. You know what? They needed it. They needed. Not to cut you off.

This is, I mean obviously your word. But not. I mean you did cut him off. Okay. Well, I just got inspired.

You wanted to be happy. Yeah. Steve and right here. You know what I mean? And like he like that was maybe maybe could have been most

Steph's brother. But Steve needed a bodyguard that went with them everywhere. Yeah. Who did it? Let's make this guy as equal.

He could have been his own pure guy.

He always made this guy. You know. You guys are making this guy. This is like Seth Green didn't have to be Seth Green. He could have been black.

That could have been Dave Shappelle pretty easily.

I think that actually where the movie misses.

Some some some some brothers and sisters. It definitely misses. Some black women. It's like throughout sprinkle throughout like the corner copia of LA. There was an awesome opportunity to have like I don't know.

Like Snoop pop up in his bitch like young actors from around the town. Pop up in his mouth. They missed his spot when Ed Norton takes Charlize to dinner. That could have been like a cooler restaurant. We could have had some more celebs there.

Yeah. I felt like they missed a big set piece scene in the middle, which is what fast would have done. They would have had a stethom trying to evade police scene. Like at about the hour mark of this movie.

Just like at our adrenaline. That's when they do all the like LA underworld crime stuff. Of like the Ukrainians and the gold bars. And all that. So you're saying the dinner scene with Ed Norton.

He's take out. No, but he's taking Charlize instead to some concert or some club. Yeah. What year is it? It's 2003.

Yeah. So 50s in town. Yeah. And they're going there or something like that. Just a little bit more.

Steve Friselli loves 50. Whatever. He's hanging out with him with like whatever. Like there's an opportunity. LA has a very very potent black cultural.

Uh, the fingerprint. So this is a little bit of that. Missing in the movie. The one at this venue. Incredible.

Steve Friselli was just chilling out with G unit. Yeah. Incredible. So a Yale in that bitch. Casting what ifs.

Not really a ton here except Robert dropped out of swat to do this. Colin Farrell got that role. And then apparently Giovanni Rebusy was supposed to be the set screen part. But couldn't do it.

I've never understood much better movie with Mark Wahlberg.

What? What? I mean, how life swat? But the Mark Wahlberg was in swat.

I think I think swat would have been better.

Who was in swat? Colin Farrell. Colin Farrell. Wasn't on my list. Um, you like swat?

You've never seen swat? It's good. No, it's hot. I saw it when it was in the theater or whenever after. But I haven't seen it in 20 years.

Hmm. Am I missing something? That's just it. I think it's an enjoyable action movie. If you $20 million, beat me out of jail, whatever you say.

Joey Pants Award for Best That Guy. I have a couple here. Okay. Uh, I think you moved this down a little bit. Where to go?

Skinny pizza that guy. So we got it. Skinny Pete Scott adds it from 30 rock is the actor rehearsing and traffic. Oh, it's good one. Boris Krutnog is.

Uh, Kevin the Ukrainian he was in hunt for a October. He's on the on the for October with. He's one of those guests. And Oscar from the office is the security guard. Yeah.

That's the one that jumped out at me. The Oscar from the he just sticks out like a swat. Yeah. But both of the Russian guys could be that guys. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And waiters were Donald southern lenders. Skinny Pete. I had Sean fanning.

Sean fanning. And he mugs for the camera. He's like, I'm I'm in this movie. Inspired choice. Yeah.

It's like in for 15 minutes recasting couch director city. I mean, obviously, we get to fill the fuck out. Like, is it better and Boston or would you go Chicago in the summer? [ Laughter ] Steve Brazil is like, we got to fill the fuck out.

And your response is Boston and O3. Steve Brazil is taking a helicopter from New York to go see. That's just money and Philadelphia. That's right. Um, I don't know.

I don't have any real requesting other than the Mark Wahlberg part. So who'd you ideally put in the Mark Wahlberg part? Somebody else. Damon. Because Damon can't do it because he's got born at this.

He's already an ocean's and stuff. And athletic. I hate doing this because it's you're shooting too high. But I want you to think about the time this movie came out. O3 in Leo to Caprio.

Did you build it? What did you add? The beach was 01. Okay. He's about to hit.

He just did gangs in New York. And he's about to hit that catch me if you can. The aviator part of his IMDB. This is pre blood diamond. Pre TIA.

I think he kind of snuck this in here.

I think it's a much better movie.

Yeah. This is like shit. If Leo is, is the Mark Wahlberg part. I think this movie is a homer.

This would just be, if I say it would be so fucking cool if the Caprio

just made one of these now. If he was just like, eh. When we just bang out on Italian job. But this is legitimately the point of his career where he goes, you know what?

I made the beach. Fuck it. But for the next X amount of years, it's Spielberg, Scorsese. Those are the guys.

These are the guys that I'm working with. I mean, the other make movies like this. Inception is kind of just prestige Italian job. That's a really good point. It's actually not bad.

Getting all the gutter. He's the leader. It's a really good point. But it's Christopher Nolan. Yeah.

Do you think Leo's IMDB in the 2000s?

You basically treat this for blood diamond.

Why can't I just have this movie, too? Okay. What's wrong with that? That's fine. Why do we?

We're so precious about Leo. About blood diamond. If he goes, this movie right into catch me if can. Aviator with book ending with gangs in New York. And this is the next one.

And it's just like, I'm doing a fun little caper movie. Yeah.

I think you would have been really good in this.

All right. Craig, you did your flex. Yeah, but can I do a hot estate? Yeah. I think all of the heist in this movie are in the wrong order.

And they chose the wrong heist to feature. I think the Venice heist by far the coolest heist in the movie. And then the movie. Yeah. It's also the Italian job.

Yeah. It should be the end. Following three to three levels with the paint was super cool.

Into the water was like a great reveal that you think it's in the boat.

It's not. And then the heist that they were planning in Steve's house was super cool. I wanted to see the mini coopers in the house driving around. That was so cool. I feel like the one they finished the movie on was the least interesting heist.

That's a great take. Fantastic. Fantastic. I don't know if that how that change is calling at the Italian job. But I guess it's they have to do the Italian job.

Yeah. I'm currently in a Twitter algorithm where I keep getting served coward clips. It'll be about like, you know, quarterbacks are like comedians. You don't want to have to explain it too much. And then the tweet is like, holy fucking shit.

Look at him cook. I'm like. I'm just gonna say that cook. Yeah. I was like, it's like a pretty okay take for that.

Just like holy fucking shit. He's so real. He ended the pot here. We couldn't believe it. I did see that quarterback take.

I was like, let's go.

The more you have to explain the comedian and how fun they are.

The odds are they aren't that funny. And the same goes for quarterbacks. But can the net even what are you saying? The net make fucking sense. Sure.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Half us in a research. Not a ton here other than the northern stuff.

The northern stuff. The stunts. There's a fucked ton of that. It's super stuff that you just got glaze over. Yeah.

Apex Mountain. Cooper. Yeah. Probably nobody in this movie really except for maybe Seth Green. It's been a bit in the peak for Seth Green.

Ah. You're looking at me. I mean, you know. No. It's defense attorney.

You're a people. It's not awesome powers.

It's after Austin Powers after the third one.

He's one of the leads in Italian job basically. And I feel like this is. Yeah. Like this was the last run. Big boy.

Yeah. This is maybe it was the last Austin Powers. Nothing really else except for many Cooper's. I don't think. You know what?

The event scenes is 0 3 21st century Apex for Los Angeles. So I was thinking for the Hollywood area in might be. That's when Kim will show relaunch there and. And it goes all the way. There's been a money and they're really trying to restore it and make it a place.

You go and the man theater. They spent money on. It's breaking. It goes all the way to the end of like on to rush. You know what?

And Ketsuya goes in on the corner of. Ketsuya goes in sunset and vine. And it became like the place. For two years. And then sunset.

Every little part of Hollywood has its own deal. Sunset and vine has his deal. Then right there. The corner of Fairfax and not Fairfax. A corner of Liberia.

It really ended when the ringer moved in the sunset. Go on to that's 16. No, we had a nice couple of years there. No, but I'm saying that was the beginning of the end. First for the.

The entire. We took out Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. Getting chased by Hobos in the Gulch.

Kevin Clark. I run over by a car. I will go. It's a big deal. I think Hollywood's coming back.

Hey, I hope so. I think Hollywood's coming back. If Nelson's going to save it. Cruiser Hanks. Uh, could do both.

Did I have to chat. We could have Chris play. I think Chris could have been Walmart.

Really easily.

Yeah.

You would love the driving.

I think crews in the Edward Norton role.

Evil crews. Evil crew. I think evil crews in Colorado. Yeah. What else.

That's it. Think about this movie with crews in the Edward Norton role. And then Leo. We were to try harder. I'll tell you that much.

Yeah. Yeah. And Leo. Pickin' it. Just Charlie is pretending to be a cable repair person.

It's ludicrous. They figure out the right. Brink's truck in the Hollywood chasing it. Yeah. Based on tire size.

Because Seth Green and apparently has some incredible computer program.

And he measures the tires and what's he wants to do. They have set that up. When he comes telling them like it's this wide. What if that.

What if that car just had less air in the tires just by some coincidence?

I don't know. Um. Blowing up the exact square spot in Hollywood Boulevard. Cars to be in the right lane. That's the stop right on that spot.

It can't take out any other cars. I'm just saying high degree difficulty. Yeah. I think this movie is less interested in the planning and the execution of stuff in any high type movie that I've seen in taken serious.

Yeah. Because in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And in options they do so much. They have multiple cons running at the same time. They let you know you're in on the highest almost. They make you an expert in it. They immerse you in it.

Let's move. He doesn't give a fuck about that. Um. If we talked about a lot of the other picking that stuff. I was just going to say if you stole a bunch of gold.

From Venice.

Would you really have a roadside party at the border for Austria?

And then get on a one lane road. Oh, no. I'm just mind is also bullets don't work like that when they hit the water. Like travel speed that way. And yeah, there are no police.

I don't think it's CR. Fucking. Correcting us. They die in the water. The water's cold.

They're all sharing the thing. They didn't. Sequel prequel prestige. TV broadcasts are untouchable. I'd watch.

We already touched. I watched 60 movies. I watched a full prestige TV show about Donald's other one. And you can have key for plan. I don't think missed opportunity.

This movie made almost $200 billion. I don't know why they just abandoned it. I mean, there's a lot of talk about like what was supposed to happen.

And why the Brazilian job never got made.

You could have done the Stella Bridger series as like an international safe cracker. And that could have been a whole series. Right. Fucking Craig over here. I would have gone to least the first one of those.

or in Halle Berry. This category leads me to the question of all black cast. Has there been an all black cast, high-st movie? Oh. Well, you have a white, white, white night. You have a white night, a couple of, I mean, there's an answer to why. Didn't any Murphy do tower-haste? It's a tower-haste, but there's an answer to why. There are white people in tower-haste. There's an answer to why. There's an answer to why. There's an answer to why. There's an answer to why is because, you know, when you do these movies like this, the criminals in the movie seem elegant.

They seem high-rock. And that's because, like, crimes committed like this by an all-white cast, they seem like ingenious. There's ingenuity. And on-screen, when black people commit crimes, even if these crimes have all of this intricate shit to it, they just seem like criminals to the audience. That same elegance and that same ingenuity, I think people view it in a different way. Institutional bias. I completely think that maybe that's the challenge and the thing to upend. Yeah. I agree. I thought we couldn't do a movie like this, but we just fucking did.

By the way, there are like, there are movies out there, there are black-highest movies, even like, some of them are comedic, whatever, even like, you know, uptown Saturday night, let's do it again movies like that. But when you talk about all of this type of shit, attackers, it's kind of like the idea of having, honestly, like, I'm moving that. Yeah. Yes. But when you, when you start looking at it like that, it's different. See, ours, this movie "Better with Wing Jenkins," "Furgy of the Floor," "Zain Low" "Rabbered Ever" and "Dr. Charles Nichols," "Ted the Manor" someone else.

I have a new person to introduce to this malange, can't wait. Derrick from American History X. Oh, let's go. I got a bet. I come in this game right now, same score, but we play mini-crupers vs. helicopters. If you win, we will walk away, but if we win, no pitching, no fighting, right here in front of everybody, you pack up your shit and you get your little British cars out of here. When are we doing that? Fucking craziest scene in movie history. I fucking loved it. I loved it. I love that fucking movie.

That's my favorite performance of him ever. He's unbelievable. He's phenomenal in it. The movie, I know it makes people uncomfortable, but the movie is so blind.

It's really good.

99, man.

So how do you just ask me three days ago if we were ever going to do it?

Did you not do it with Shay? We never did it. Not for Luminary?

No. Let me ask you this. Seriously. I'll just say, are you a little bit scared of it? No. It's not at all. I don't know. I love it. I think it's also a fascinating text to use now. No, it's always been on the list. We just never did it. Just want to ask her who gets it.

What do we do here, Craig? What about the, is there like a stunt driver? OK, stunts stunts stunts stunts. I don't really have any other than we made $24 million across $490 million of damage. Yeah.

Now what? I feel like people are looking for these people for the next five years. There's one reference. People who ruined LA have escaped again. Most deaf gets them cell phones at the beginning of the LA portion.

And he's like, you know, we'll have to switch these out a lot because they're going to be heat on these lines. And like, there's no heat on the lines. There's no cops. Nobody is, nobody's looking for them. This is probably an answerable, but I want to ask you guys that this question. Is there anybody in this movie that you think is better at their respective job than their counterpart in the oceans of Lebanon?

Is there anybody here that's better?

I honestly, I thought Seth Green had all the answers for an hour and 50 minutes.

Is there anybody in the ocean's crew that has had some robbs? Let's go set. That's the one. I think he, he would. He's the only member of this. Both in cars is the only member of this crew that I think could be on Danny's crew.

That's a good question. So who are you bumping off Danny's crew? Yeah, car liner. Yeah. Oh, wow.

No, I'm saying like, I think there's got to be a sunset clause somewhere. I know he's the guy in Oceans 11, but like, you know. Maybe the combo of Casey and Scott, even though they're really funny. Yeah, you don't need both. Yeah, you don't need both.

Yeah. Members believe you'd want from this movie as easy. It's got to be a gold brick. Yeah. I would have put that right there.

My wife has him in a grouper. Really? It's pretty harrowing driving it around. Yeah, I agree.

Everybody's, especially now, everybody's bumper is basically at brain level.

Yeah. So like, as you're pulling out, you're like, this guy is going to decapitate me. Like, everywhere. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I talked my way if I had to get anyone. Coach Finstock, Mr. Maggie, were best worse. Life lesson. It's got to be the devil inside, right?

Yeah. Best double feature choice. I'd go with fast four. Just so you can see how many things they kind of secretly stole from this movie. And then who won the movie?

Maybe at Norton. That's the funny thing. Mmm. Stuff.

I think it's the funniest of all the performances to revisit during a rewatchemows.

It's him. It's hard to go back to like, kind of see pre-superstardom sharlies and Ed Norton being like, You fucking guys. I can't believe this. What do you got, Craig?

That's the first inanimate object to win the movie.

And it's the mini-coopers. When the movie. I don't think it's close. Wow. Mini-coopers.

You're moving. That's it. Yeah. You're like, you're like a young calling power to go crazy. Yeah.

You will believe what this kid just said about it. Yeah. There's like no sex, no blood, no swearing. It's like made to just live on television. And it's like the perfect gateway action movie for a 12 year old boy.

You're absolutely right. People look at things happening. I remember watching this when I was like 11 years old thought it was fucking awesome. They're in the city apartment. They're small, but they do a lot.

The Italian job. First of two rewatchables this week. We have about last night, 40th anniversary coming on Thursday with me and CR and Mallory Rubin. Who is going to make CR about as uncomfortable as it gets. I can't wait.

Do you do that? Do you do that? You guys. He's 15 years or 14 years of that. That guy's perhaps go back to the infamous blowjob story.

You and it is just like those stories come out of nowhere. It's like if you watch the blow I'm sorry, which is the funniest moment I've heard. I don't even know which movie was that. Oh, yes. Christ broke up.

So like a couple of years ago. And we do the, I can't remember which movie drafted was. It's all in some of the full couch for the people Rob Joe me, the big picture. And Mallory goes into a story about, you know, giving blow jobs at her basement.

And like watch and snatch.

Look at this.

If you guys don't fucking believe me, just go back and watch it.

The reactions from Dobbins from CR from finisi.

All when she gets to it are hysterical.

I'm sorry you guys were like, we didn't get that social out of this.

She legitimately got you guys.

She did. And it was the element of surprise.

You know, that's what makes her so special.

Anyway, that's going to be Thursday. So two episodes this week.

Then pleasure is always see our pleasure.

Thanks, brother Craig. Thank you. And we'll be back on Thursday.

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