Broncos Trade for Jaylen Waddle, NFL Free Agency Hangover, Craig's Oscars Recap, and a March Madness Preview With Tate Frazier

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Welcome to the Rear Fantasy Football Show. My name is Dana Heifetz and I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coral. Back in We Are Going Over. The French is a hangover baby. We are going to go French is a hangover.

We have tape phrase you are talking about. Craig was at the Oscars on Sunday night and he is going to tell us about being at the Oscars and actually mixing in with celebrities. We will let you know for later what Oscar nominated actor commented on his mini hotdog. If you want to just play.

Thank you for specifying. We will have tape phrase at the end of this episode going over March Madness for us. We have our March Madness bracket pool.

“I think it's in the episode description for our March Madness pool.”

It's on a little tournament challenge so it's great. It's fun. Join it. You could beat us. It's great.

You could do two brackets. We did two brackets because I like making two brackets and the winner we are going to send a prize to the winner. Yeah. Ringer merch.

And also, I did set last year's winner. I did send them the stuff. I did it so long. I forgot. I sent it immediately.

They killed me back and they were like, I did send them the balls. I didn't forget it. You actually did it. You thought that you sent it. I was honest about what I thought was the truth.

Sure. I forgot, but I actually did it immediately. So shout out to Danny, who won that. We are recording this on St. Patrick's Day, March 17th. You're listening to the season tonight or the day after and you might be hung over.

I already went, not having a Guinness with my boys, right? I have one. Should I go get one? You should. What time is it?

Can you meet fucking? I haven't. No, I have them in my fridge. It's the afternoon for you. Why not?

“So we're going to do the hangover and again, the point being that the way these teams”

spend money, we're always like, oh, great job.

Love these players and then you look back. The other news that gets buried is always them cutting players that they signed one or two years ago. And they're like, yeah, I see it freeing up all this money with this money. They gave this player last year and it just kind of like, yeah, you wake up on the

sober late of day and you're like, as Craig said yesterday, the other day, we get out and pierce how much money, $29 million. How drug was I? What? Like looking at the 10th.

It freaks you really. What's the damage? Yeah. What? Yeah.

That's way more than I thought. 17 pub lights. Really. And it's like wake up in the morning and these teams are really piecing together what we did on the Friday night and just like hungover.

Yeah, you're like nine million a year for one day. Wait a minute. Is there a one in front of that? 19 for one now? One point nine.

One point nine millions.

It's a great deal for one to 19 million.

Okay. Wow. Okay.

“So we're going to go through all these transactions in the sober late of day.”

But first we have to start with here. You know what, man? I didn't really. What? How is it out the can?

Big generous mouthful. Remember? Big generous mouthful. It's not as good as when we were in Dublin, but it does it when I do love gifts.

Thank you. Tell. You said 10 over the weekend? Oh, yeah, yeah. I went to the beach.

You had a letter on the side of the porch, Drinking. Drinking Guinness. I love. I love me saying you had 11 Guinness, isn't he? Because yeah, I went to the beach, and went to the beach in Washington to be clear.

So it was cold as fuck. That's. But crazy. It was lovely. It's out on the porch.

Of course. Drink Guinness. Quietly, you can drink. I think Craig and I under a table. Well, Guinness is nice because it's not very, there's actually not that much alcohol.

No, it's so. You can just, you can set up a shit. Yeah. So let's get to the trade. So the big trade of the day here is that Miami has traded tail and water the receiver

to the Denver Broncos. Drop this in the group chat. Do you get immediately says, wow, sorry, right at the time, water now completely dead to me. It's ironic because I was the one who was continually trying to support water, keep him

on our radar. You guys have been totally out on him the last two years. I was trying to like, you know, just see his side of the story a little bit. But now there's no hope for water. I mean, he's going to a Denver team that is led by Sean Payton.

You got to get a little Jordan Humphrey snaps. You got to get paparazzi snaps, court and sudden snaps. I don't know, you know, whatever they're doing at tight end, you're going to get those fucking guys involved. You got to get multiple running backs involved.

It's going to be a disaster. There were a lot of things that were like the line for the blue tent, Denver. What is JK Dobbins, Jalen Waterland, Evan and Graham on the same team.

So the full terms of the deal.

So the Broncos get, there was like a fourth round pick swap, whatever. It's it's Jalen Waterl for Denver's first rounder, which is the 30th pick and the 30th picking round three. So it's a first and third, but they're 30th pick in each round. So it's really like a late first and a late third for Jalen Waterl and then like a little

fourth round swap. But I don't know what to make of this.

“And honestly, the irony of me getting this Guinness, the reason I wanted to go do it was the”

hangover thing is this reminded me of why these Guinnesses are in my fridge, which I saw these Instagram stories that people over the weekend have a lot of fun in St. Patrick's day. Like people at the Chicago, my friends, by the green river, like people at Irish pubs and having all this fun.

And I don't really do any St. Patrick's stuff over the weekend. So then I'm at Whole Foods and Sunday by groceries and they have this giant stack of Guinnesses for idiots like me who buy this stuff in line and check out. And I'm like screw it. I want to have fun like those people.

So then I just buy these over price Guinnesses in line at the supermarket like an idiot. That's kind of what the Broncos did because the Broncos were literally the only team who did not sign one free agent from another team. They resigned a couple players, which honestly made their fans pissed.

They gave JK Dobbs 8 million guarantee this year.

I'm like he hasn't played a full season in years. And so the Broncos just had this FOMO that they had not signed one player in a week. And then they did this deal. And I don't know, taking your hatred of Sean Payton and the fantasy football out of it. Do you think this makes sense?

In the world where we were saying DJ and more for a late second was an overpay. How do you feel like water for first and a third? Probably an overpay a little bit. But at the end of the day, I do support the idea of just getting as many weapons around the Broncos as possible, making his life as easy as possible, making their defense a little

bit more difficult. Or sorry, their offense a little bit more difficult to defend.

“I think what it does have is a ton of speed run after the catchability.”

Some of the issues that he's had over the years is just injuries constantly seem to be kind of an issue within these constantly going into the blue tent. But I do think that catch around ability, the ability to get D, he's obviously very, very fast. And he adds an element to their offense that they don't really have at this moment. So I kind of like it from a schematic point of view, and from a strategic point of view,

he's probably a better player than you're going to get at 30 anyway. But you're also inheriting a big contract. It's kind of the same stuff where you're talking about DJ Martin. He's weirdly only like one year younger than DJ Moore.

Well, Pierre's is getting 28 million on the open market and models making 26 million

or whatever he is. What would jail and model get him for agency? Yeah, I'm not sure. But, you know, I like it for the, for the Broncos offense, I like it for next. It's probably a bit of an overpay, but overall, I actually don't mind it.

I just seem to be completely out on him for fantasy. Yeah. I think I agree with DK, I think this is probably like a pretty good deal for Miami. And the same opinion I have about the bills getting DJ Moore and everyone's like, "Really? A late second ridiculous."

It's ridiculous. It's like, all these good teams are looking for edges to get over the hump. And the Broncos, like, skill position group is not that good. Like, the tight ends are not that good. Cortland Sutton is a solid player outside of that.

It's a lot of unproven guys. You have RG Harvey at running back because young and seems promising. But it's like, they actually don't have that many difference makers. So I do think that having somebody like him diversifies the offense in a way where he's not a redundant asset where I'm like, he actually does something that they need.

And so I kind of get it. I'm like, "Okay, you give up a late 30th, you know, late 30th pick." And they're like, "I'm going to try to win the Super Bowl next year. I kind of get that." I apologize to forget who made this joke, but it rattled around my mind.

Someone's like, "You know, for a team that only throws screens and deep shots, it's, like, jail and water, actually makes a lot of sense." Yeah. Yeah. And I, as much as I despise him at times in Miami, I think he does make sense for Denver.

I think, when I look at this thing, I just look at Denver as just Sean Payton's Feast him for whatever, whatever you think of it. And I almost make a connection to him. It's ironic that the Broncos season kind of tilted on that fourth and one where they went to the fourth and the play call, the Patriots had them dead to rights, and it really the whole

game shifted after the Broncos didn't get any points in that AFC Championship game. But it's ironic because this is the kind of move I think teams make. It's actually similar to me of like fourth down, and I, not to beat the fourth down stuff

to death, but I think that teams that don't always go forward fourth down, there's like

a way to manage the clock at the end of the game of like, "No, we're going to punt back. Play defense. We'll execute." Then we'll get the ball back and we'll execute to go down. Then there's analytics, which is more of like a mathematical, what is like the most probable

way to win. And I think that this is Sean Payton saying, "We're going to get the players who want," and then we will execute. This is, oh, it's frankly quote-unquote smarter teams, probably don't necessarily do a move like this.

But this is Sean Payton saying, "We're going to go get water, we're going to bring all our players back because we should have won the Super Lest you."

“And I think that's what this is saying is, "We're good enough.”

We're bringing everyone back. We're going to get this one extra piece because again, if you look at that Bill's Broncos

Game, which really the Broncos should have lost, Pat Bryant got the first thr...

in the game and they got hurt. And then the Broncos couldn't really move the ball as well, the rest of the game.

“And I think Jalen Waddle kind of lock stuff.”

The irony to me is, Sean, the Broncos have a bunch of players that Sean Payton wanted that never play. Like, he traded up for, I think, RJ Harvey, and then they're bringing back Jackie Dobbins for eight million years. They traded up for Marvin Mimpsies, like a punt returner, really, that rotates in.

And it's just funny to me that Sean Payton seems to want new toys, and then they show up.

And he's always disappointed with them.

So I'm curious whether Jalen Waddle's the full crumb of the offense or just another guy on the team. I think you know the answer to that. I don't know, but then Michael Thomas gets 149 catches in his season, but that's really more of a brief thing.

The Broncos thing, I want to get to the dolphins, but the Broncos thing also, I have to mention that Jalen Waddle, I don't know what event he was at, but someone interviewed him like yesterday, some influencer, was like, if you could box that anyone who could you box box with, and he was like, Pat Sertain, I would beat the dog shit out of him. And I think because they went to college together, and I think he knew he was going to

the Broncos. So he literally was just like, I'd beat the shit out of Patrick's of Dane today. And then they were face timing, which I just thought was funny. Fuck, he's Jalen Waddle likeable. You guys get to be back yet on Waddle, is perfect for me.

He was just crushing sour patch watermelon on this red carpet, and I'm like, this man's going to have a good time in Denver. Well, we have to, is Denver still, is Denver the official like villain team of the ringer fantasy football show? If Jalen Waddle is now in Sean Payton's Broncos, they are officially, the most hated team

of this podcast, correct? Now that Kyle pits kind of had a good season, like, yeah, I mean, good month.

“But I think, yeah, I also are the Broncos, the favorite to the FC West, would you pick”

the Broncos Chargers, cheese with Justin Fields, they're going to win the FC West? And this is the Chargers year, I feel like I probably picked the Broncos. I would pick the Broncos. So, look, I've said this many times, Sean Payton, good coach. That's all I'll say, you know, and then I'll say other stuff later.

And it's a reminder that the whole, like, they traded him for a first round pick, and you

have a reaction. This was the Craig's good point about the second up pick for DJ Moore, and then you're like, looks the 30th pick for Jalen Waddle, and you're like, it's the 60th pick for DJ Moore. You're like, yeah.

Just think if it was the 33rd pick, he will be like, oh, a second for Jalen Waddle? Not terrible. Yeah, a second for the third. Also, Craig, we do not have any room for nuance on this. This is not what the third user online criticism has no room for nuance.

If you look at Fandel right now, Denver's third in AFC West division, what? What? Yeah. Can't see the end of Chargers. Can't see the end of the city.

Can't see the end of the city. Even all say, can't see the city. The Broncos made the soup, but the cheese made the soup all two years ago, and they still couldn't beat the Broncos. The cheese and the Chargers are both plus 180 and Denver's plus 200.

So it's all very close. But still, that's the Broncos are 19 to win the Super Bowl when they probably should have made the Super Bowl a share. Let's go. Is that, is that figure just looking at the fact that they want to watch a once-core

games, a regression next year, the cheese, I guess, will be back or whatever.

“I mean, honestly, the most surprising part of Charon Payton's press conference at the”

combine other than him, Lewis, like, pointing at a reporter specifically and being like, paraphrasing, I hate you. He didn't really see it. You're in time out. I answered other than that, he was like acknowledging that they got lucky in a lot of

games and that won't happen again, like just here in Coach say that straight up was really interesting. But yeah, I guess so. I want to get to the dolphin side of this, which I think is fascinating. This is, if we're talking about hangovers, have you guys actually ever had a clean up like

a big party? Of course. Of course, yeah. It sucks. If you smell of alcohol, people will still throw parties so if I can give you advice,

clean drunk. Whenever those leaves, cleaning 20 minutes in when you're drunk, you go to bed, you wake up all the cups are gone. Get recommended. Well, of alcohol, whafting out of the garbage, the half-filled red solo cups.

You pour in the wood of warriors out and like, oh, go take you right back to year, like your 23rd year. Yeah, this is the smell of beer when you're drunk for something over. But the dolphins, this is just cleaning up like a big Miami house party. Like the dolphins.

Like you walk around, you're like, this place is a dump. And the dolphins have now fired Mike McDonald to $100 million dead money over two years to cut to a, the cut-tiri kill for I forget how many millions cut Bradley Chub, which I think is 30 million dead cap. Now they've traded Jalen Waddle for the 30th pick and a third rounder in the 90s.

Just a complete total overhaul and they're basically walking into my, like these are Packers, guys. These are Packers, guys that took over the GM John Ericsson, and then I go shift halfway.

Who are like, the Packers are like, the responsible, never trade away their picks, trade

back team that like, very responsible team building thing. And then Miami, who is the push, like, owned by a real estate mogul, everything's with debt, everything's boring from the future, everything's now, now, now, now, now, now. And they're walking in and being like, holy shit, this thing's out of control. And they're like, we're doing, it's like austerity, it's like we're doing this all now.

And they're taking rescue, taking it all down to the studs here, they have 135 million and dead money. Say that again, 135 million and dead money.

That's like the salary cap of a lot of teams.

So they got $50 million for 2020 was a, or 2021, for five years ago, the entire salary

cap for an NFL team was $182 million per team. And five years later, Miami is saying, we actually have already paid, players no longer on our team, $175 million and we fire them. So we have to put that all in there. Yeah, it's like the five or six highest paid players on the dolphins are all playing for

other teams this year. So that's kind of gives you an idea. It's like two a tyreek, waddle, Jalen Ramsey, Mika Fitzpatrick, Bradley Chow, Tarnom Stead. So there's just, yeah, they looked at the situation and were like, instead of doing

the same thing where they just continued to like kick the can down the road, it perpetually forever. They just want to get, they want to clean the slate, get it out of here. Yeah.

“And, but I think the interesting thing about this whole thing, and I think the biggest”

question people have after what happened today with the, with the Jalen Waddle trade, is why did they sign milk willus in free agency if they were going to just basically tank the season. And I think that is, you know, I don't know if we know the answer to that. You could, you could give a few guesses and he's not going to be a free agent again for a

couple of years. They just really like him and they've truly, truly believe in him or he's just kind of like there to sell tickets and give the fans like a reason to believe something is going on here. I don't know what I don't know what to get to the point you're saying, you're saying,

why so I'm a leak willus, if you're going to have such a bad team, Craig, will you read the current receivers in the Miami doll? It's brutal, Malik Washington, Terrace Marshall Jr., who, that was the guy on the LSU team with Burrow in Jamar Chase, and just he's the ultimate, yeah, he's like the, he's bouncing out of the fourth Jonas brother.

They brought in two, two, at well, Jalen Tolberate, he's been the Cowboys, Theo West Jr., Taj Washington, Andy Jurgenson, not a real person, an AJ Henning, Andy Jurgenson. No, Andy Jurgenson, it is real. Can you tell me who he is? He fits a wrote that in, he's a cinematographer for one battle after another.

- That's like that. - That's ours. - If you were there, I was wondering if you'd get it. You did catch it though. These are guys who failed us number three receivers, or didn't get the chance to be it.

And they're starting to let you out well, is like their number one receiver. These are guys who couldn't be fourth receivers. I actually like Mike Washington,

but these guys who failed in the third or fourth options

in an office, the link will this thing, I don't understand why everyone's confused because I don't know why it's a bad team, why wouldn't you want a good quarterback? 'Cause people are treating it like it's the producers,

where they're like, "Well, I'm like, "Louis, "with spewies junior, and we'll get the first pick." And I guess maybe that is the idea. They're like, "Oh, well, worst case, he sucks, "and we get a good pick, but what if he's good?"

But you're saying it's not a position for New York City. - It's not. I mean, they're gonna probably just run the ever-loving fuck out of the ball with Millie Quillus in Devon HN this year, but I don't know.

It's like, I guess you didn't give him that much money and maybe you haven't for two years and you bring in a quarterback next year and he sits behind Millie Quillus for a year and you like him and you think he's good in the system,

but it does feel a little weird to me that they brought in Millie Quillus and they got rid of Jalen Wattel and it just feels like they're in a true no-man's. And I'm like, "Why not just keep going?

"Get rid of Devon HN." While he still has value. Well, he's on a rookie, he's saying trade him. - Yes, trade him. He's heading to your floor.

He's a guy who's been banged up yet. He's probably has the best market value who'll ever have right now. Like, why not just keep going? - Yeah, and this is what I'm talking about.

- This is what Carlos says.

“- Yes, I think it's spot on, it's basically,”

he's being set up to fail. How are you going to know if he's your long-term franchise player if you put in a position where you have no good receivers? You know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense because they should have just,

it's like they have one foot in each side of it, you know what I mean? They're straddling this line of being trying to be competitive and trying to tank, just do one thing. - I can't do both.

- Also the criticism. - Well, what is the problem? I really don't, what is the, they signed Lique Willister, it's a two-year deal for paying him 20 million out of a year.

What is the, like, it's talked to be like, "What is the problem with signing him?" Because they're like, "Oh, well, you're not in a position "to succeed." I'm like, "Okay, so you don't want the guy who could succeed."

Like, what we always talk about,

I think it's all you talk about is nature versus nurture. - Yeah. - Are we putting the Lique Willister in a spot to nurture him? Or are we just putting him on a team that will likely fail him?

- Well, what's the point of signing him?

“- Well, I think the, sorry, you're saying,”

I guess my question back to UGK is, what do you think the Dolphins do with the pick? So here's the, so the Dolphins, maybe 11-pick, maybe they take Carnal Tate and we're like, "Oh, they, would they got him a wide receiver?"

- First of all, the Dolphins, they believe it or not, have a pick in the first second or third round. Believe it or not, the Dolphins have not had a pick in the first second or third round in five years. This year, now they have two, firsts in four third round picks.

So the Dolphins have 11 picks in the draft. So I think this is a classic, people are like, "What are you doing on March 17th "in Patrick's Day?" but by the end of draft weekend. So DK, the Dolphins now pick at 11

and they also pick at, well, at number 30 and her 43.

I'm curious, that 11th pick,

do you think the Dolphins maybe try to get a receiver

“like Carnal Tate in which case I totally get what they're doing?”

Or do you think they may be grab a guard? Like the Penn State Guard who I'm still free to say is, they, they get, they get, they get, you want a, they get I want a, you want a, they got you want a, you want a, you want a, you want a.

Oh, okay, they get you want a. So do you take a guard maybe 11 and be like, we need a real guard. They send you more salary from the charges. They, they need a real right side of the line.

They've also jacks in a right tackle for like one of your dealies. It's fine. I think, like, or get a right guard. And then you have the 30th pick and the 43rd pick to maybe get a receiver and then suddenly,

I don't know, is it, what would you do if you're the Dolphins? Yeah, I would do that. I would try and like see where you're gonna get the best pockets. Like, and they can look at it like you just did basically where we can get a first round guard and a second round receiver

or first round receiver or second round guard to side which one we like the most. Or sorry, there's there's two first rounders and then a second rounder. So they can kind of try and figure out.

Yeah, they can kind of try and figure out how they're gonna get the best bang for their buck and what position groups are going to attack. But I do think they need to get a receiver. I already thought they were gonna take a,

in my last mock draft, I gave them Colonel tape before they traded a bottle. Because I think they need more talent to receive a position. The receiver position is more bereft of talent

than any other team in the NFL. And I mean, this is like what we were making front of the Steelers for. DK, do you think that however you want to talk about the receivers in the draft this year

and where you kind of stop the first tier of people? But it's like you have McCoy Lemon, you have Colonel tape, you have Jordan Tyson. Do you think any of those three would be there at 30 or do you think they would need to grab a guy at 11?

I do think that there's a chance-- Or do you think they're bigger tier and you think they should wait and get different guys? I don't think any of the guys you just mentioned are gonna be there.

The third round picks is perfect to move up. I believe the Giants gave up the third round pick to move up from 34 or whatever, five, 10 spots for Jackson Thart. So they could move from 30 to 20 if they want to receive it. Yeah, yeah.

In that case, yes, I do think at 20, there should be one of those guys probably available, whether it's Tyson, Denzel Boston from Washington's another guy that kind of included in that group in Kyle Lemon. And then Colonel tape is gonna be long on, I think.

But yeah, I mean, they could still get a good day one starter at receiver theoretically. And they're kind of doing exactly what the packers have done over the years where they just collect. They amass young talent and develop them around the quarterback.

And I guess if we are putting ourselves in their shoes, getting a high value pick in the 30th pick, plus the third rounder, four guy like Waddle, does make a lot of sense on it, in terms of strategy. And getting reset, young roster, draft and develop,

they don't have to pay him on his next contract. They're getting something for him now and resetting the deck or whatever. So I do understand what they're doing. But I think just, it's like the,

it's what the Falcon did last year with Kirk Cousins and then drafted Pentex. It's like, I just don't quite understand the order in which they're doing these things with taking a signing mulliquelist.

But I can, if you turn around and put it from their perspective, it's like, let's just try as many different things at quarterback as we can and see how it goes. I have the Yiddish word as Rockmonus for Dolphins fans because when you trade a player that you like

and was drafted by your team and it's good,

you never feel like you get enough.

Like when people like go to an overpayment, like Dolphins fans are like, dude, like you cut Tyria Kale, like jailed waddle is like it sucks when you give up a good player in his prime. Especially when it goes on to be good.

However, I do think this is a full rebuild for Miami. Looking at an AFC East where Drake Bay and the Patriots somehow just made the fricking Super Bowl with Mike Vrayball. And that looks like you never know how things roll out but if everyone stays healthy,

it could be a 10 year thing for the Patriots. The bills of Josh Allen, the Jets suck, but if you want to compete, like you need to do it the right way. You can't like be half the Dolphins together, right?

Yeah, real Dolphins sleep. They're half asleep half awake at all times.

“It's like, that's what Miami's been the whole time”

and you can't do it that way. I look at this and I'm like, if they had to play next week, I'd be like these people are idiots. They have to play in September of 12th or whatever.

And so you can sign DeAndre Hopkins for 2 million bucks

and then you'd draft Jordan Tyson and suddenly everyone's like fine with this plan. Yeah. I think it's more like that. But are we all in a greens that, even though every mock draft

now is going to give them carnell tape or someone at 11? I actually think it makes more sense to go offensively at 11 and then use those picks it again, fourth or third round picks. Because DeKa, they're four,

11, eight picks, they're seven picks in the first 95 picks. Our 10 wide receivers going to go in the first 95 picks like they could get two or three of them. I do think a lot of receivers are going to go in the top 100. But your point is taking,

there's going to be receivers in the second and third round that they could be interested. Also, there's something to be said about. At 11, you can just get the guy you want rather than having to like trade and figure out,

and almost, it's up to other people as well.

“There are more parties involved if you have to try to trade up”

and there's only one guy left and now you're scrambling. So maybe if you just take the guy they wanted 11.

But famously, the packers almost never take

a first round receiver.

Yeah, sure.

Except for Matthew Goldner who hasn't done anything. Well if Warren Sharp had a funny graphic about that,

“that the packers, I think, were dead last in draft capital”

and receivers for 2010 to 2020 while Rogers was there. And then they were first, his Rogers is left, which is hilarious. But then don't forget, Ronald, ironically, the Miami had the 12th pick and then traded up to 64 watt.

Well, they actually traded back and then traded it up for water in the first place. So it kind of recruits a little before they got it. OK, I, Dolphins fans, I think it's good. Worst cases they suck and they, well actually worst cases

is they're actually, they wouldn't six games and they don't get a quarter back. You're going to get worse before it gets better. Yes, but then hopefully we'll get better. The other thing I want to, well, let's talk about hangovers here.

The diners signed Christian Kirk. So now they've signed Christian Kirk in my ovens, which I think also does remind me of my phomo Guinness purchase of just the diners watched the, their division rivals, hated division rivals, the Rams and Ciax play

in the NFC Championship game for the right to win the suitball on the, in the 49ers home stadium, which is like, I can't think of more phomo. Kyle Shannon's on the field on the pre-game show for the Super Bowl.

As the Ciax are about to dominate the Super Bowl. Kyle Shannon's just there doing television and I'm like this man, like imagine what's going through his head. And so I don't know DK, maybe I'm silly, but I really do look at all these niners moves

through the lens of the two Super Bowl favorites are in the 49ers division in the Ciax and Rams. Everyone thinks they're going to be represented in the NFC. So I don't know, what do you think of the niners to bring in Christian Kirk and Mike Eft?

I mean, I like the Mike Eft Insigning, actually.

“I think it makes a lot of sense for them.”

Christian Kirk is more of just a depth move, I think. Kind of round out there, relatively inexperienced receiver core and give them another veteran. I can kind of play from the slot, do things like that. But the Mike Eft Insigning, I think, makes a lot of sense.

And it gives them a better chance to win now, compete in this really tough division, where you've got two of the best teams in the NFL and the Ciax and the Rams. You've gone up against some real heavy hitters.

And so go for a guy like Evan's who can really kind of change your offense. I think that one makes a lot of sense. I think the Christian Kirk thing is more just a depth move. Because they have a lack of experience at the receivers.

I mean, like Joanne Jennings is leaving in Brandon. I use his MIA and probably very probably gone. Also haven't actually technically released him yet, which is kind of weird. Kendrick Born is on the cardinals now.

So it's really just Mike Eft Ins. It's Christian Kirk and it's, and it's Ricky Perisol.

Brandon, I use his never playing for the 90s again.

George Kittle went on balsam with the boys and said he hasn't seen Brandon Yooks since weeks six. I mean, I think, I use his done there. And then, I mean, John Lynch, the GM said it. So I think Cody Alexander did a good post at his substeck this week,

where I think the Evan's thing is, it's like the outside receivers are back. I think that teams probably need like big X receivers. Again, Mike Evans is frankly probably the prototype since Julio Jones, like Mike Evans is that guy. And also, frankly, I kind of think Mike Evans is the 90s student

with the Rams, they would to want the Adams. I mean, the Rams, let's get to say that. Like I was going to make that kind of exact comparison. It's, you know, you got, you got guys later in their careers who super good to become mercenaries a bit, want to try and win a ring.

And I don't know if they're going to use Mike Evans in the exact same way that Tvontay Adams did where he was basically a goal line back, but on the outside. But I think they could. I mean, he has the size advantage over pretty much any corner he's going to go again. Is the man beater?

I think that like, you need an, you need an outside receiver vet who can still beat me at coverage, which can be done with a lot of fit footwork and just savvy. And I think Dvontay, Dvontay, Mike Evans don't a lot in common in terms of how they came into the league, Dvontay has like NBA level foot quickness.

“And that's how he just, he'll always be able to win with his release.”

So I'll feel like I mentioned the first second.

But Mike Evans is always going to be able to win down field.

And I do think that is what this is about. Is that Mike Evans is a winner in the red zone, Kyle Shannon's amazing the red zone. I think Mike, Mike Evans is just, everyone else is to beat Zone. Mike Evans is to beat the, is to beat Matt coverage.

And so we'll see. I trust whatever, I feel like the Niners get always get a lot of their water severs, like Joanne Jennings and James McBorn. Anybody who goes to the Niners, I trust that she had it in kid. I mean, I mean, Fred and I, you could barely play it for Sever when he would.

Right. I mean, Fred and I, you, wasn't here running back in high school or something. He was pretty wrong. He wasn't well known for being like a great row runner and they developed him. That was a, such a tumultuous relationship, Brendan.

I remember early on in his career, he got put in the dog house by Kyle Shannon. And I kind of came out of it and turned into a superstar type player, not a superstar. Like a star type player and then it, then they, if I'm very understanding for players before they get that big contract because the way the system's design is hard.

But then when Brendan, I, you get the contract and it gets like $80 million

guaranteeing 30 million a year and then he, like, he won't wear the same color shorts as everybody else. It's like, you know, it's like, there's something, I don't know what's going on with them. I don't know if he's okay, but it's, it apparently didn't rehab his knee right.

No one knows what's happening there, but it's a straight situation. Another hangovers, Craig. We have talked about other teams through the context of the cheese, but we actually have to talk about the cheese themselves. Yeah, so the cheese, the newspaper here is that the cheese traded for Justin Fields, which

Is kind of interesting.

They're going to send a 20, 27, six round pick to the jets and exchange for fields.

I still think the chiefs are in that mode where any time somebody goes to the chiefs and like, fuck, he's going to be awesome, but the hangover comparison to me for the chiefs is like, the chiefs, much like Patrick Mahomes just turned 30 and they woke up, thought they could hang with a bunch of 23-year-olds. They look at themselves in the mirror and like, I got to get my, I'm going to tighten things

up. I got to go in a juice cleanse. I got to drop 15 pounds. I got to lose a little weight and I do feel like that is the air that the chiefs turn right now like it just hurt their knee and they're like, I'm 30 now.

I can't keep doing it this way. And so the chiefs are like, we can't run the ball, we're going to bring in Kenneth Walker.

“They brought in Justin Fields who, like, honestly, I even think, personally, Mahomes is”

a health psycho, the way that he preps every year and like the way that he sustains his body to try to prevent injuries is so impressive. I think Mahomes is going to play week one. If I had to bet, I would say he's playing week one, but I think Fields is great insurance if he doesn't.

Also, I think Fields is going to be involved in the chiefs offense regardless, like, totally. They don't. The way that they used him with the Steelers, right? Yes, like, they don't. Mahomes doesn't sneak the ball anymore.

They don't do that stuff with him. Like, I think Fields is going to be on the field sometimes with Mahomes or in, like, fourth

and one, third and one situations.

I think that's pretty cool when you're getting him as like a depreciating asset coming off the fucking jets where any time somebody talented leaves the jets, I would bet on them and him going to the chiefs. Right. I kind of don't think it's a bad move.

I totally agree that everything you're saying. I do think he's the Tushpush or the quarterback sneak guy for the chiefs at a bare minimum, the short yardage. And think about all the weird stuff that Chiefs do when they're like, they're ring around the rosy versus the raiders, like, think about all the weird stuff they do.

Just in fields, it's like, I'm not trying to be like, oh, a quarterback's running back or anything, but like, if you look at last year's cheese with, with, with, cream hunt who's still unsigned and I don't think cream hunt would have played for any other team last year if he hadn't signed the cheese. And then Isaiah Pachecoff broke a leg.

“I think Justin Fields is genuinely faster than any running back that was on the Chiefs last”

year. So if you think about it in that context, if any read really wanted to, we could try out at a two quarter, but you could do it reads where Justin Fields is throwing the ball. I'm like, I think Justin Fields will be, there's a lot of room for creativity with that at the very least.

And then the upside is Justin Fields is not great as a passer, but he didn't turn over the ball a ton. That was the, as bad as he was with the Jets and I can't stress how bad he was with the Jets. Like, one of the worst passing offensive ever seen, but it takes a village to be that bad.

That's everyone. That's everyone involved has to be that bad. But no, I, I, I, I, it's exciting. So the, again, they signed Ken Walker, the Super Bowl MVP away from TK's C-Ox and just getting the Sonic's back really makes that fine.

Yeah. What are you for Seattle? You wouldn't do the ball. You're going to get the Sonic's back. Don't forget about the Mariners, baby.

Seattle. You're just cooking right now. Seattle. What is the good time to be a sports fan in Seattle? I will say that.

I wish, I wish when we were together when the C-Ox is, when the Mariners got eliminated, by the Blue Jays, I wish I could have just put my hand on your shoulder and be like, don't worry about it. You'll win the Super Bowl and get the Sonic's back. What would your rather have?

This Super Bowl or the Sonic's coming back? Well, I can have both. So why don't I have to decide? Fair enough. Damn it.

I think I would probably rather have the Sonic's back because I don't know. I grew up on the Sonic's. You guys, I, I've told you this.

I was a basketball fan, like, for most of my life, basically until the Sonic's left.

And then when the Sonic's left, I was like, okay, well, I guess I have to find a new sport

“and I got, and that's what I kind of got into it.”

It's, it's not, people don't talk about our backgrounds a lot, but it's not overstating it. Like, the show wouldn't really exist if the Sonic said that. It's actually that, the sliding doors of that, happening is pretty crazy. Like, I was super hardcore Sonic's fan.

I played basketball in high school, I was like, basketball was my thing. And as you guys know, now, I know Jack shit about the NBA, I'm like, I need to actually do like a crash course and get back into it. Well, you do know a lot about the NBA, you just frozen in time for me to do a lot about the late '90s.

Yeah, you know, Gary Payton. Literally, like, the last thing, I mean, obviously, the Sonic said some good errors after the Gary Payton shine campaign, but those are the glory days, like, Ray Allen came to Seattle for a while. That was really fun.

So, you know, but I'm super excited that the Sonic's are evidently coming back at least, it seems like it in a couple of years, but yeah, I truthfully, I need to like do a crash course and do the Neo sort of, like, upload of the last 20 years of NBA history. That'll be good. That'll be good.

That's an awesome thing. It's just really microdust the NBA. It was like one NBA fact every episode or something, microdust, DKN NBA. What were on the COX though, um, DK, we actually have not talked about this yet. I don't have no idea what you think.

What is your hangover thing for the COX, super lying over? But they kept their entire offensive line, signed Rashid Shaheed back, and quarterback Rashid Shaheed up, but they let Ken Walker go to the cheese, let Boyamoffa, the defensive then go to the Bengals and Kobe Bryant, left too. Not that one, there's a quarterback, there are a lot of Kobe's now.

I think he, I think people knew that. I know, I just, I said it, but it's kind of like you doing the dishes and you're saying

Kobe Bryant go, I think that was clear enough.

I don't think anybody thought the deceased Kobe Bryant signed with the bears. Sure. I just, you're right. I probably could let that fly. Thank you for your clarity on that.

“It's also underrated, there's just a guy.”

You know, it's just like great tackle by Kobe Bryant, it's just like, it catches you a little off guard. That's all. It is true. Sure.

It's spelled with C, though, for the record. But here's the deal. Yes. Yeah, that's true. The C-hawks, Craig, stole my analogy a little bit.

I feel like the C-hawks are, they were cleansed very, very disciplined in free agency. I know from just anecdotally talking to C-hawks fans, it's hard to go through free agency when all the other teams are like doing crazy, exciting shit.

The rams are, you know, trading their first router for an all pro corner, the 49ers are

grabbing my Kevin's for relatively cheap and seems like a great deal for them. And then the C-hawks do absolutely fucking nothing. They didn't even go out last night. The C-hawks don't even have a hangover because they stayed home. They're sticking to their new user resolutions.

They were listening to podcasts about the 21 day work week guy who, you know, like 6 a.m. to noon. And that's one day. I'm fucking beaten you.

You know, they're like fasting, they're sticking to their gym routine, all that shit.

“They basically did absolutely nothing in free agency.”

They didn't really do anything until they signed that manual Wilson running back from the packers. That's like their big move is like basically citing a manual Wilson who might end up being a pretty big player for them going for it. But yeah, they basically did nothing which is hard in the moment and you have a tremendous

amount of follow-mo, but ultimately it's what they needed to do because they still have to sign chase. And they still have to do, there's a bunch of guys coming up where they were essentially saving their money and their cap space to do these other big deals going forward. So that's kind of how they see the C-hawks.

They just didn't go out last night. Must be nice. They're over the hill. You know, they're hard to do anything they've done. They're the guy like on vacation with your friends, you know, everyone gets up at 11 a.m.

And he's like, you guys just got up, I was just at the gym home. I went on and run or ready, you know, yeah, there's some extra smoothing in the fridge. If you want any, but it's hard, it's hard as a C-hawks fan to watch everything that's happening in free agency and like they just on the sidelines. I'm sorry about that.

Yeah, but you know what, then I just like, I would look at all of my Super Bowl memorabilia and then I'm like, you know what, it's fine. It's fine. What? My tears of my $100 bills.

Yeah. Shout out. Simply Seattle by the way. People don't understand now. And I feel like you guys are going to hate this, liking the good team is really stress.

That's what. Oh, 100%. We've talked about this a hundred. It's a whole head. It's really bad.

It's really bad. There's the expectation. It's different. Every game matters. Imagine that every single game, fucking matters.

Every warrior's playoff game for seven years was life or death. And I'm most of the time, it was life and that was great. But it doesn't, it just credit the fact that it's incredibly fucking stressful every goddamn day. I think it's like, I hate you.

Look. I know what you mean. Most of the people are usually the most stressed. Bob Eiger gets up every day, he's got a stressful day ahead of us. So people just want that shit.

They want people hate you, listen to this. But I know what you mean where I actually think the giants were bad for so long that I forgot this thing that we talked about this season that no one talks about enough, which is as much as we all love sports and talk about sports. Watching your team and important games is horrible.

Misrible. Horrible feeling. And we almost like cover it in this facade of like going to games and tailgating and having fun. Like, but the game, the other parts are fun.

Time games. Like suck. It's horrible. I lead up to the game is great. Like the idea of the game, getting, showing them the bar with your friends, like

before the game starts, the first beer, incredible.

The second the game starts, Misri. There are two different types of fans, though.

“Like I think maybe we're all similar in that regard, where it is true, Misri and”

it's pain. There are people. Watching the championship we can call it basketball last weekend. And like I'm watching games and whatever fan base it is, like Utah State or whatever, it's like, they can be down 10 points in a game, St. Louis or something like that.

VCU. It cuts to their fans. They're down 10 points, eight minutes left. And they're like cheering their ass off, having a blast. We got this.

Go VCU. I love my team. That's not me at all. My team was down 10 points and eight minutes left in college basketball game. I'd be fucking catatonic.

I don't understand the people who are like, oh, I'm a Browns fan, we're down 14. We got this. I love my guys. We're going to come back. That's just not why I am.

I can maintain that positivity, but I can't watch like important giant games with like other people. No, yes. I don't think I watched a giant's game with non giant fans, for I don't think I did that until I went to college.

I could do it. I think it isn't.

It's interesting though because the first thing I'm thinking of when you're talking

About how miserable it is to be like a warrior's fan, for instance, even thou...

like that. That's incredible.

It's supposed to be the wrong word.

Sure. It's not miserable to be the only one. Everything you just said. Everything you just said. I agree with that generally.

But then I'm remembering when staff will put on like that clinic in the Olympics. Yeah. And we all got to sort of experience what it's like to root for staff.

“That's what I was like, there's nothing better than this.”

You know he's going to fucking win. Of course. I don't know about that. But don't get me wrong. No, I know.

I wouldn't trade it for the world. But it's like Michael Jordan, like I wish I was a bull's fan in the 90s and then I wish I had my Steph Curry was on my phone. But only retrospect, you know, that they're like, oh, we're not going to lose any of these goals.

Yes. There's such a difference. Being in a moment and looking back like all my friends and I are warriors fans except one, my best man in my wedding Chris Barlow, my best friend, he's not a warriors famous from New Jersey likes the nicks.

He moved to the bay when he was like nine years old. And so he's not a warriors fan, but every single friend of his from high school is a diehard warriors fan. And he's the only one in our group chat about NBA. And it's all warriors fans and then him.

And during that stretch, when they were like winning every year, every game, it was like we're down 18 to the rockets that's fucking over this socks, blah blah, and then of course they come back and win. And every time Chris was like, you guys are so fucking stupid and annoying obviously they're going to win.

“And in fairness, you didn't really blow a free one lead in the finals.”

And so I kind of get the fear of the same thing. And we were down by like 20 to used in at every fucking half during the 2017 team. But my point is is that when you're on the outside, Chris just sits back, not stressed at all. He's like obviously you guys are going to come back and then they do.

Yeah. But when you're in it, it's the reason I didn't explode on you right there. Just being angry of you being like, it's stressful is I actually just thought about Randy. Josie yearly writes some stuff for the ringer about being a cheese fan.

He's some of the best stuff ever on the ringer.com. It's Randy. And he actually, one of my favorite things ever, it's from a piece called Faith Fear in fandom at the time, a Patrick Muhammad. This is about the cheese since 2019.

And he was the one. Boom. This is just at his peak. Opening is just he's like, he's like, he's religious.

He prays to God and he's like, I never keep God out of sports.

I don't think that's right to think that God cares about sports. And he's like, I actually started to notice the last month that he prays every day. And he's like, I don't think I even did this on purpose, but I started praying to keep Patrick Muhammad's healthy. And he's like, I have every day for less six weeks, prayer, prayed for Patrick Muhammad's

is helpful along with my children. Well, you know what, man? Again, okay, other hangovers here. This isn't easy one. Viking's just wake up.

Don't remember anything. Just Kaiser Murray's in bed. You're like, yeah, you've been texting and you're like, yeah. And it's like, you clearly don't legit you McCarthy. And it's like, you know, you guys were like, it wasn't you were together.

It wasn't like serious. It wasn't necessarily exclusive. It probably wasn't defined, you know, there was like Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones. And you know, he had the neat thing. And it's kind of like, the wasn't defined relationship is a little ambiguous.

And now a change of McCarthy's like, oh, I guess this wasn't like serious. And like he's pretending not to be upset. But like, Kyler, all the Vikings, you know, the fans, the friends are kind of like, yeah, this is probably for the best. This is like, you know, this reminds me of it's similar to that.

But this is cheating instead of breaking up with someone.

You're basically just like cutting to the chase.

I don't want to break up with you. That would be too hard for me personally. I'm too much of a pussy to do it. So I'll just cheat on you. So you break up with me.

And also sometimes like cheating, where sometimes you're like, yeah, they shouldn't have done that. But there was a lot going on there that you didn't know about. And he's like, dude, you just cheated on your girlfriend with Miss Arizona. Nice.

“And it was like eight years ago when she won that, but she's still with Miss Arizona, right?”

Pretty odd. I'll say that. Yeah, this is interesting. We talked about it in the last show, as if it had happened, but now it has actually happened.

And I kind of like it. Now that it's actually physically happened, how do you guys react to it? It was the Minnesota's best option. And I doubt a lot of teams. I said this the other day, but I still feel this way.

I doubt a lot of coaching staff's ability to execute on the, well, we'll design the thing around the player's strengths, because frankly, not every coach has been cross-trained to do that. It's like, my Patricia's like, I'll install the Sean McVe, Sean McVe, Shannon, running game, and he can't.

They don't know how to teach it, which is why Matt Jones was calling Alabama, and he was right. I actually trust Kevin O'Connell to build a different offense because they can't do the Shannon style stuff for Kyler. And I trust him. Like, Miami, I don't think she should just sign Kyler, because I don't think they

don't coach that to me, honest. I think this makes sense. And I think that when they took McCarthy, this was our question. When they lost startled was, they have a win now roster. Like, the defense in Minnesota is quietly old.

They have a couple young pieces, but this is very much a win now roster and a win out of vision, and they need to win that quarterback. I think people are putting a lot of faith in this coaching staff, and I agree with it.

I do think that, I don't know, it is kind of a leap to be like, "Could Kyler

Murray just walk in here in win 12 to 13 games? Vegas still has Minnesota as last in division odds in the NFC North. But to be honest, I think it's a worthy bet.

Like, it's a million dollars.

Miami is doing $175 million to players who aren't on their fucking team." Like, I know. They're doing 125 Kyler Murray's. What? The dolphins are literally doing 135 Kyler Murray's this year.

And they don't get any of them. It's really funny. But I don't know. I'm kind of like Detroit. He's at a weird part of their kind of like stretch, green band, Chicago.

Chicago lost a lot of guys. I'm like Minnesota's last last and odds in that.

“It was the only thing that we really felt like they needed was a quarterback.”

I do think it could work. It would be a very interesting fantasy football quarterback to do it. Fantasy. I gotta tell you. I guess we should do a little fantasy too right now.

The league will listen Kyler Murray in order to rank those guys, even Justin Jefferson. Like, I am fascinated. I think Kyler is going to get Justin Jefferson the ball. But Kyler with the scrambling, I think Kyler is a very high pick in fantasy right now. I wouldn't give him top because he's going to play.

It does feel like every year now because of how many quarterbacks can run in fantasy. There is.

There's always like a Justin field's type where you're like, he's not that good, but

he runs a lot. Right. And there's always going to be one or two of those guys every year now that you make a bet on. Yeah.

So, I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do.

I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do.

I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do.

“I think it's the right move for the Vikings.”

It's the best possible thing they could have done. I just think he's so overvalued. He's not undervalued. Yeah. I just still don't really know how to feel about Kyler Murray.

We're either underrating him or overrating him. I don't know if he's going to be. I can't tell. I can't figure it out.

For a million bucks we're not.

It's on and big. That's the best move they could have made. That's the best move they could have done. I don't know what they could have done. I don't know what they could have done.

I don't know what they could have done. I don't know what they could have done. I don't know what they could have done. I don't know what they could have done. I don't know what they could have done.

“I wonder if that will motivate him a little bit.”

It really is that scene in Moneyball where Brad Pitt, Brandon Bean, is talking to David Justice and he's like, "How much are you being paid this year?" He's like, "No, no, no." I'm paying you $1 million.

The Yankees are paying you $4 million to not be there. I don't know. I do believe in new environments motivating people and changing their psychology a little bit, but let's see. This one, for a hangover episode.

This is the ultimate one, which is the Baltimore Ravens Craig. The Ravens are living the actual plot of the movie The Hangover in that. They will cook married and now have to get in a moment, which is they blacked out on a Saturday night, woke up with Max Crosby and they gave up two first run picks.

What happened last night? They're looking over at Heather Graham.

That's my wife now.

They live in my grandmother's Holocaust ring. So over the course of a few days they had to get rid of Max Crosby and undo the entire thing, which they did. Which they did. Is that hard to?

I don't know. What part of the movie is them like stealing a tiger

or was that the second one?

That's Trey Hendrickson. He's the banker. The banker? The bank was the first one, isn't it? Yeah, but they stole the tiger. They live in stole the tiger. Yeah, look at that.

Look at that. We are on top of this. Yeah. That's kind of as far as the metaphor goes. There we had on the crossbee.

Where we had in the Crossbee Hendrickson drama a week out. A lot of Ravensson's are really mad that we did acknowledge that what if the simplest answer is just Max Crosby's and he is bad because he had a surgery. It does it matter.

Do you do that already? You already knew he had surgery.

“What matters is he traded two first rounders for him.”

What matters is it's smart whether his knee was healthy or not. It's smart. Yeah, I don't know. I was like, who cares? You got out of it.

Why do you care what we think? They were mad that we were like, it's dishonorable. They're like, they did it. Their point was that like five other doctors agreed. And I get how that's a one-hand again.

They're like, oh, like the cowboy's doctor. All these doctors failed them with filling on the physical. It's not like actually blackweiter like that. Like it's not actually simple. But the idea is, you knew he wasn't going to pass a traditional physical.

So why did you give two first rounders for a guy that might not like that?

Because time because they were hammered when I did that. Ricky? Shit, I was hammered. I don't want to say that. Hell, you come in third.

You come in fourth. You come in fifth. I love that. Hell, you could even come in fifth. I'm in fifth.

The Ravens largely though.

“So they, Tyler Lindorbaum, their center left went to Vegas.”

I say I likely left two seconds left. True. They basically only brought in. Trey Hendrickston and John Simpson the guard. But the Ravens are going to largely be the same team.

I mean, right? Adam Trey Hendrickston. There's not a whole lot that's going to be different in Baltimore. Well, they lost Isaiah likely to the Giants, which I'm kind of. I'm kind of happy with the Giants did.

We can do that. I mean, the Giants got Isaiah likely and Calvin Austin from the Steelers. And they got Darnell moody for the price of what Wanda Robinson cost. Yeah, that's a lot of that. But the Titans losing that and Charlie Colors.

So they got lost the receiving tight end and they're blocking tight and Charlie Colors to the charges. So they kind of just have Mark Andrews back there as everyone's getting multiple tight ends. The Ravens are a little short there. Bold move losing.

Basically, the Ravens issue last year in a nutshell was guards.

Like, it's not that simple, but also if the Ravens had better guards. They might have made the playoffs and gone from there. But their guards were kind of they had experimented. They had the biggest guard ever at right guard, Daniel Flawlay. And then they had Andrew Voor.

He's who it towards Achilles at the combine or something. And like, now there was very good. And John Simpson's fixing trying to fix that. But then you immediately lose Tyler Lindervom and the Ravens don't have a center. And then Tyler Lindervom leaving reset to the center market and the charges where the Ravens west.

Steel Tyler be honest from Washington. So the Ravens now just need to center as much as they needed a guard like a week ago. So they kind of still love the same problem in the same part of the line. Yeah. So they have a brand new head coach, which is kind of important.

The third coach is ever in the Ravens. It'll be weird. It'll be weird. I'm very curious to see what happens with Lamar Jackson this year because he just did look like himself at all last year for basketball. No, I would say he did he run my life.

He was where we went. Let's just do this now. Just like taking, taking 10 seconds sacks every third place.

“I want to do this right now and I want to see if we can hold to it because you know what?”

How much is really going to change between now and August? What are our quarterback rankings next year? Josh Allen is first. There's no debate about that. Are we putting Drake May second or are we putting Lamar Jackson?

Where are we ranking Lamar Jackson? How many players are you putting a head like actually going to draft ahead of Lamar quarterback? I would rather have Drake May. Where are you putting guys like Jane Daniels and Jalen Hurtson? No, I wouldn't have either.

Go next. My very simple framework for this year that I'm curious if I change my mind on is. Just betting that you will not that the models and everything of how we like make the rankings will not properly quantify the trajectory of. Guys in the same system. So Josh Allen who's keep still has office quarters.

Hey coach now Trevor Lawrence and Caleb Williams are going to get better. Yeah. And guys learning new systems might not. So that's it. I'm a mental tattoo.

Yes. Don't underestimate the second year leap. So Jalen Daniels and Washington is a new system. Lamar Jackson's offensive coordinators younger than you and I. Craig like he's 29 which makes me feel really horrible.

We're just turned 30. The Jackson dart has a new offense. Like all these got like all these other mobile quarterbacks except bonus. They all have Jalen Daniels like all they all have new quarterbacks.

Part of me is just like.

Why wouldn't she want to bet on Caleb Williams having a second year leap advantage with a way he played from December and in the playoffs?

Why wouldn't she bet on him? And but Lamar is different. I mean Lamar is one multiple MVP's. Are we that's the quick.

“Are you going to take Trevor Lawrence over Lamar Jackson?”

Like there's no way. I would be no. No probably not. I'm going to rank Lamar third or fourth by won't take them. That's what you're an asshole.

Like if you're actually. That's what you're doing. Yeah. Our fiduciary duty. But I'm like, what are you going to do?

You're going to take Josh over. I mean you're going to take Drake. I don't know if I will. But I mean there's a difference. It's like just because I think.

He will maybe finish the season with the third or fourth most fantasy points. Doesn't mean I want to spend that much money on him. Like, you know, like I would probably rather wait to have Caleb to be honest. Okay fine. They're all the same price.

You can have any quarterback you want for a 12 dollars an auction draft or your. Fifth pick, which quarterbacks do you take out a Lamar Jackson or all the same price? Fourth. He's probably like fourth. Barn Josh.

He's probably behind Josh. He's behind Drake May.

And I'll come up with a third.

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He's maybe he's third. As much as I don't want to.

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It's like the Colorado Rockies. It's like the thin air. It's like the Vegas visiting NBA teams.

It's like that team is going to have an incredible home field advantage.

Because when players come to Vegas, do they just like stay at the MGM grand? Like, where does the team stay? I have no idea. And they're just like at the velocity.

I don't add a motel off-strip. This is like, um, I remember the bulls. I think why don't remember. I remember watching in the last dance. The Jordan would have all the teams.

Eat in his steakhouse the night before games. If they were in Chicago, then it before. And he would just pay the comp them everything. Send them the most expensive wine. Stakes everything.

And they'll, uh, over. And the, uh, imagine Johnson is the only one he wouldn't let the Lakers go. But like, it's going to be like that. You know, the Vegas basketball teams going to have all these

connections to the tells. And they're going to be like through the hotels, comping everything for these guys and having them like up all night. Pablo, Pablo, Pablo Torres.

Yeah, Pablo Torres is going to be doing some investigations.

So about stuff that happens on. What did George Pickins and see the land? So they missed curfew for Vegas. They were at a restaurant. Yeah, they were at a restaurant.

Very late. Anything that serves to take. Technically served a steak. Anything that sucks food. We didn't talk about that.

Atlanta Hawks called off the Magic City night. Oh, yeah. What was that about? Luke Cornette. I, some player on the spurs wrote a substact.

And he thought it was disgusting. Atlanta was the the famous one was going to sponsor a night. I actually partnered to serve their lemon pepper. The wings at the Hawks game. And then Adam Silver was like.

Wagtus finger and was like, how dare you? This is a family company. What was the kids taking away the kids fund? Meanwhile, the kids wouldn't have heard of it till you've talked about it. Magic City, that sounds fun.

Is that like Disneyland? In a sense. It's a magical kingdom. I think the Rams are the other big hangover team. This is a little more specific, but you know that.

You know, when you're like having people from out of town in your town or in your city. And you're like, everything's on me. Like, I'm taking you out. You know what I mean? Your money's no good here.

That's where the Rams are. It is. It's like, when I came to DC, I like Joe House took me to lunch to try to pay for it.

“And he was like, oh, if you want to die, yeah, go reach for your wallet.”

Go ahead. See if you survive. Like, that's kind of the deal. The Rams are hosting the Super Bowl this year. And they're literally just going all in. The Stan Crooky, he's like, you know, he's, I mean, obviously one of the biggest landowners in America.

He's like, he's Google. He's crazy crazy rich. He's married into the Walmart family. He owns the Rams. And there's a reason there is won the Super Bowl when they hosted it for the first time.

And so they built a $5 billion stadium and then played in the Super Bowl there and won it.

It's because they tried really hard. Like, they gave up all their first Olympics. They traded golf for staffer. They did everything. And they tried really hard.

And the Rams are doing that again. Like, they're going to try to win on their stadium again. And you look at everything they did where they traded all the Pixar Trent McDuffie. These signs you'll have in Watson. But I think they're going to trade the 13th pick too.

If they don't like to rookie the falls, then I think they're going to give that up for veteran too. Like, mate, apparently, like, H.E. Brown, they were talking about. But either Rams are very much going to, like, the money doesn't matter. They're trying to, they want to establish the thing in Los Angeles. I do like that McVey in the Rams.

Just like fucking love going to get wider receivers. They were in the mix for Julio Jones a while ago, I remember. Like, I earned the mix for Brock Bowers in the draft a couple of years ago. I love it. I love that they're just like, fuck yeah, we want awesome sick water series.

That is the best play. Yeah. It's crazy to think of, like, the dolphins have, like, Theo, Wies, Jr., and Lake Washington, and Jalen Tolbert. And the Rams have Devonta Adams and Pukita Koo.

And they're like, we need more. Could you want one more? Yeah. One more? We'll do one more.

We'll do one more. Also, the timeline works out. I mean, like, Stafford's age. I can all make sense. It's culminating in this season.

One last job. Take it.

“Who's the craziest receiver of the Rams could take it?”

Yeah. That's 13 though. Because Devonta Adams is 33. Or is he going to be 34? I mean, Jordan Tyson or McCuy 11, or I think the two that I've seen connected to them the most.

And I wouldn't like either of those for my team in particular. Right. I don't like anything the Rams do. Just, they get under my skin. I don't care for Joe.

I don't care for the Rams. Even though, like, but good, begrudgingly respect it. Sure. It's crazy. Hi, Vince, what do you say that to about comparing the dolphins to the Rams?

Like, they're playing two different fucking sports.

There are two different worlds.

It's insane.

“I, I always try to, sorry, from which the cap numbers mean.”

But the 175 million dead cap.

Is that really the number? Yes. That's what's shifter between it. That's more than half. Like, I mean, I just got to do it as a percentage.

It's like the numbers get mind bogging, but the cap is 300. So, I mean, the Broncos made the playoffs with the third of their cap. Washed out. The giants made a third of the playoffs with the third of their cap. More than half is disgusting.

Like, that's actually disgusting to do more than half. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're in their pulling trick. That's what they're doing.

Yeah. They're pulling trick. They're like, we'll just do it now. Get it over with it. It'll be better after this.

Yeah. The other hangover one, I want the Tennessee Titans. I don't know how much people care about this. But I just think it's so funny that Robert saw the head coach and Brian Dave Lee offensive coordinator. The two former giants, jet coaches.

Or like, you know what? Let's get the band back together. I don't feel good about what the Titans are doing. I don't think they're going to be very good at football.

“Speaking of the Rams doing a Super Bowl, the Titans are opening stadium next year.”

And I don't always be like non football reasons are involved.

I'm like, let me tell you something. The Titans got to sell tickets, boys. They have a stadium to open. They are like so fourth place in the division. The Jaguars are a juvenile of the Trevor Lawrence.

The Texans should have made the Super Bowl probably. And they've see the Colts are trying to go all in. And then the Titans suck in the opening stadium. They have no star players. So they went out.

And they were just spending so much money. Solo went out. It's got the boys back together from your fake glory days in New York. That we're actually weren't that cool. I can't.

I can't think of two teams that I would like rank lower than the jets and the giants. In terms of, like, let's recreate what they were doing. Let's take their cast. The people that they fired. The people they got rid of.

Yeah. Let's take those guys. And see what we can do. Let's see what we can do. Coaches to the point.

We get a little stew going. I will say those. Solo's defense with the jets was good. And they was kind of cooking on offense. It just feels like they tried to build a good team in a weekend.

Like they just tried to build everything in one quick weekend. Yes. We're going back to the draft. No. This is the, there's like the meme, the landlord's, land, landlord's special.

When you're doing, like, renovations and stuff on a property. It's just like, you put a piece of tape up and then paint over it. If you have a hole in the wall or something, it's like just the bare minimum. We're going to get a feel. We're going to feel the team that is going to play football.

That's all we know. But you should catch a buzz. Later to the pregame, rip three shots, get in the car. I got to tell you guys, for Wanda Robinson for 19 million hours a year. I love watching Wanda Robinson.

But that one is crazy. It made me feel a little old. They bought a corner back room. They just went out and paid for a corner back room. They got the whole thing.

A latte tailored from the Saints, quartile flop from the giants and Joshua Williams from the Chiefs. Like they just went out and paid. That could be like 110 million dollars a year. It could be good.

“But I think corner is a little bit like kicker.”

And that you just never know what you're going to get from these guys.

You're going to get from these guys year and a year out. Like there's like three guys that are consistent. And then the rest of them are like he could be the best quarter on one team and the worst on the other. That's a good point. Dependent.

Yeah. The margins and scheme if lettuism and mental are so thin for these guys. Because it's so hard to like quarterback. I will say this though. I have a take.

But first, who, again, I don't mean it lightly. Like they have to send. They have to sell tickets. That's a little season tickets for stadium. Who's on the ticket when they mail it to you?

Jerimile titans right now. Jerimile love. I agree. I think the titans are going to take Jerimile love. Once again, once again, they're going to be terrible.

They're going to take Jerimile love. I'm sorry. Craig, you're right. I left them out like two weeks ago. And you were like, what do you talk about?

They saw how well it. They have no skills. They have no skills. They've known cool to hand the ball to. And more than that.

Reagency came and went. I'm telling you, Paulard Craig. The titans are taking Jerimile love. Guess what? The titans did nothing at running back.

Tony Pollard is. He's got to go on the way to wash and he's in the final year of his contract. Tajay Spears when he came out of the draft had an arthritic knee. I'm going to stop there. It was known that he had arthritic knee four years ago.

He's in the final year of his contract. The other players in the titans are not like Enifle caliber players. I'm running back. They titans did nothing at running back. And it's very famous that there are no running backs that are really starting

caliber in this draft other than Jerimile love. I think titans should take him at four. Because they didn't do anything for agency. I'm so confident that the titans are going to be horrible. I should probably bet on them to win the division.

Just because whatever you see, the strongest opinions you have are usually the wrongest. So I'm like, I cannot, there's no world in which the titans are good. Maybe I should bet on them. Yeah.

What are their odds in the AFC South? Probably pretty good. The odds in the AFC South. I'll tell you right now. They are in plus 950.

Wow. I'm betting on them. That's big as anything. Just throw your money away. I mean, just lighting your money on the top.

Dolphins are 30 to one with AFCs.

You might make the difference again. Dolphins, it's the Dolphins and the Cardinals are both 30 to one. To win the division.

“Can't immediately remember a bigger number for at a one out of 14s than 30 to one.”

I mean, to be honest, if you ran a simulation 30 times, do the Dolphins win the AFC North and any of those? No, I will say the NFC West Ransiox 9 is like, yeah, the Cardinals. No fucking shot.

They should be a shot man. Yeah, right. It should be 51. Oh, that's a good point. Craig, you went to Panthers.

Yeah. The Panthers, nobody talks about the Panthers. And my hangover analogy to them is like, when Lil Bro goes out to his brother's frat and kind of hangs. And it's like, am I awesome?

And I feel like the Panthers made the playoffs last year. They almost beat the Rams twice. And are kind of like showing up at school the next day. A little jell in the hair, some new sneakers. And they're like, let's do this.

Let's get this up with a college. You made the winning cut. You made the winning shot and beer pong. You made out of the girl and you're like, yeah, I might be pretty sick. And they went and they signed a top three edge rusher linebacker and tackle in of the free agency group.

And I feel like they're kind of like, we're going for it right now, which is, which what's surprising about that talking about division odd. The Panthers are last in division odds for the NFC sector all the way. They won the last year in your last. What?

How the fuck? I'm going to bet them. I'm going to bet them. Why are they last?

“That's why they didn't want a division brought like all the players back.”

That mattered added pieces. And then, I mean, their team got objectively better. I would say also the offseason. The bucks are favored. I got to tell you the bucks might come in last.

The bucks lost Mike Evans. They kept Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles did the thing where he fired it. They were like, Todd Bowles. You might get fired.

He's like, I got it. And Todd Bowles fired every coordinator. Offense defense and special teams. I don't know the history of that. But I don't think that's a very long history of guys, coaches who fired all three coordinators.

Then did well after. Yeah. That's bad. And so the bucks being favored. I agree.

The Panthers, the Falcons. The Saints. I would actually, you could flip the odds of this division. I wouldn't even be shocked. Panther's Saints Falcons block.

So I'm like, yeah. That would make sense to me. Yeah. So I don't know.

Why are the Falcons second in the division?

I just think the skilled players are famous. I just think the skilled players are famous. Yes, but I'm like. Okay. I got to bet on Michael Panics.

You never say healthy. Right, sure. Go whatever year. I like McMillan. They brought in Rashid Walker.

They brought in Rashid Walker to tackle. They brought in Jalen Phillips. He's hurt all the time. But they brought in Devon Lloyd and linebacker. I'm like, I got some pieces.

They're like investing a lot. And I don't know. Panthers. I think. Just because they're the Panthers.

I agree. Because they signed Devon Lloyd and the Panthers linebackers were up. They were the worst in league last year. And having Devon Lloyd. I don't.

He's a divisive player. But that is the kind of upgrade that is hard to quantify. But going from. It's like anything else. It's going from the worst in the league to even slightly above average is.

About as big of an upgrade is going from slightly above average to elite. Like it's huge.

“And I think that is going to do for defense to give up the most points in their full”

history a couple years ago. Like I think the Panthers are quietly thrown on into that defense. It's going to be way better now. And I agree. The offense.

They're just big too. The irony of the price. Young being small is like. I just like they're big. They're.

So they almost beat the ramps.

And they beat them the first time.

It's like. They're like. They're not small. Like they're all big players. The other stick in this division though.

I call it the same to three to one the wind division. I'm like. The saints are. Do you guys have like a degenerate friend that you like love. But like it degenerate friend.

And you're like, I don't know if I can like do this long term. And then one thing is kind of like. You realize that kind of have their shit together now. Kind of catches you off guard. Like give it like a like a reformed degenerate.

It's 401k. Yeah. And you're like not going out this weekend. Oh, you just went fishing with your your nephew. Huh.

Started jogging. Got a Roth IRA. Yeah. It's crazy. You like.

I like did sober January. And that you couldn't. And they did. Like, oh, wow. Speaking of how's that Guinness?

Oh yeah. I was probably warm as shit now. Oh. Good job. But you didn't notice you drinking it at all.

Well, you could probably because you were on Twitter. Yeah. That's true. That's fair. The saints though, not only they went out and signed Travis C. T. N. Who's now Travis H. N.

And who is now?

Well, you're always going to go and talk about that.

Well, all right. So Travis C. H. N. comes out and says, my name is Travis. Everyone calls him Travis C. T. N. But he's like, I went to Clemson. And no one at Clemson could get my name right. So after a month, I was like tired of correcting people.

And I was like, you know what, like, I'm not going to tell you it's Travis H. N. We're sure it's CTN. And yeah, we're going to get that long a million times. But it's actually also has a brother in the NFL named Trevor, who never told anyone either. I get it though. You don't want to correct people.

So the interesting part of the brother should have gone by the HN. So ATN is just Steven and French. But it's Creole.

It's all this stuff.

Obviously there's a whole history of how people let up with that name.

And so you end up. The irony is.

“HN is kind of the version of in the past of just, you know what?”

You can call it that because in French it's ATN. But it's really ATN. And it's kind of people couldn't really get the French. So it ends up as HN with the competition of accent. I'd like to see how you get there.

It's like ATN, ATN, ATN, ATN, and then you have it. But HN and then people can't say that. And they just see the name. And it goes full circle back to like, So it's kind of a funny history of how people have pronounced names over time.

Has there ever been a more dramatic pronunciation correction? No. Like, from ATN to HN is insane. And like, we have to decide, are you going to call him HN? I think we should.

Yes. The name is Travis HN. We already got used to calling. The Devon HN, HN also by the way. I went from HN to HN.

He went from Devon HN to Devon HN. Two things are true. We can call him Travis HN. And it is also okay that it trips us up sometimes. Travis HN is going to be tough.

It kind of happens. It does remind me a little bit of like the Camaro Camaro thing. Although that's like quite like.

Kyle Grant had an incredible bit about this on Good Morning Football.

He was like, you know what? If we all agreed to call Brett Farve, Brett Farve. When that shit spilled, F.A. V.R.E. It's ridiculous. And he's like, it's ridiculous.

We went along with Brett Favray being Brett Farve. We can go along with this. Yeah. But Brett Farve wasn't Brett Favray for the first five years of his career. That's seven, really.

Because he's getting his HN was famous at Clemson. I know. I think he'll have to be full name. Yeah. We'll have to say Travis HN.

Travis HN in Devon HN. No, you can't just say HN anymore.

“For the sake of our memory, I think when we talk about memories,”

we should talk about Travis HN. Because when I search my Travis HN drawer, I'll have nothing. But going forward, like Clemson HN. I'm like, oh Travis HN. But going forward, it'll be like Travis HN on the same thing.

Craig, Craig brought up a good prompt, which is, we need people whose names were like that far wrong. Like other than that. Like you could do any industry sports. Yeah.

Media. My brother, my brother makes this one a little time. Everyone calls him Michael. But when he is a firefighter and like we went to the firehouse, people are like, Mike, you don't want to be the guy who corrects.

No, no, actually it's Michael. Because he didn't want to be that. Same thing called. So it's firehouse. People call him Mike.

Everyone else calls him Michael. But I get that instinct of when you're 18. And this is the Travis HN thing where he was like, I'm 18. And it's like I'm tired of correcting people. So the irony of Davos swinging up getting someone's name.

I'm like, it's Davos and swinging with an eye. And I'm like, yeah, he can't pronounce someone else's name. Did it? I don't know. Tell people to tell.

It's with Dell. He's with Dell. Here's the difference though. So what's up with that? Why don't we do that?

He made his celebration of water. It's like be shot Robinson's be shot. But when you take the DJ on mustard money, then you're fucking be shot now. Okay.

Yeah. You took the DJ on mustard money. We're not going to go into it. We're not going to listen to him because he does the little water dance. No.

His family is mom. Right. Jail and water. Right. Yes.

That is it. Jail and water is mom. That's where I put my foot down. It's a staged name. His name.

Yeah. That's so tired of correcting with him. Because it's not spelled that way.

It's like you would never read.

Imagine me mispronunciation guy. If I read water and I went with Dell. You guys would make fun of me. Yeah. I will say.

I've heard a lot more people saying. The John lately, like that's starting to catch on. It's it is how he says his name, but he's starting to catch on. The mustard money as a way. Yeah.

Yeah. Come on. He took my foot. I've been mustard money. What is your family call you?

Daniel is a Danny. Versatile name. They have called you Danny ever since your little Danny. When I went to college, they were journalism. They're like, oh, should you go by Daniel?

It seems like an adult thing to do. Bill had a whole column of it. It's like 20 years ago.

“Can you take a quarterback seriously if their name like Joey Harrington?”

It's not like you really take it seriously. I was wondering about that. And I'm like, what should my professional name be? It's like, yeah, fuck it. Okay, yeah.

Because your Danny did everyone else, right? D.K.? Are you Daniel? No, no, no. My mom calls me Daniel.

Yeah. High school friends call me Dan. And then people that I know, like as an adult call me Danny. I went the opposite way with it. I went like.

Dell into Danny's an adult. Yes. That's rare. Yeah. Yeah.

Are we the only people that I call you D.K.? No. No. People call me D.K.? I'm known as D.H.

at the ringer sometimes. And that's just D.H. It doesn't. It doesn't. So that's like Mallory calls you D.H.

Yeah. Well, it's because they were already a Danny. There were two Danny's when I started his Danny child. There was Danny Kelly. And they're just, I was an intern.

I'm like, you can't have Danny. It's like, you don't get Danny. You earned the full. Get in line, pal. Yeah.

There were a lot of Danny's. Can I give you one email about a hangover story? Thank you to everyone in email. Then Craig asked for hangover stories. I will take more.

There were a lot. Yeah. We want your craziest hangover story ever. Email to the ringer fancy footballgmail.com.

That you, you, you, you see your rights to the movie by giving us these email...

Yes. I'll read one.

“And then I want to hear about Craig at the Oscars.”

And then we're going to go to Tate Frazier on March Manus.

So I'll read one of these. Sure. All right. This is Russell. Russ.

Our bone. Breakfast today was a shot of the Zempick in a glass of water. Okay. Oh, shot. Like he's doing shots or he puts the shot in the jet body.

Right. Okay. Uh, Russell says I'm from Australia, which is where I need to see no would be good. Craig hasn't done the Australian accent for a while. Blue star.

Well, Alex. Russell. I keep Russell. How did you get Russell with an Aussie accent? Russell.

I don't know. Russell Crow. I think it's just Russell. I know. Some words just, that's the thing about the Australian accent.

Yeah. I don't really have the accent. I probably go by Russ. They tend to shorten things. Russ writes that in 2012 me and my three Australian buddies weren't backpacking through

Europe for three months. We were in it. Got it. We were in Amsterdam for New Years. We decided we might as well go big on the celebrations while we're in Amsterdam for New Years.

So given that Australia is about 10 hours ahead of Europe. Before going out that night for the countdown. We decided to head to a bar around lunch to ring in the Australian New Year. Nice. That is the last thing I remember.

Oh, wow. That lunch time.

“Lunch time is the last thing you remember.”

Yeah. Well, I'm going to do this. So, all right. Buckling boy.

So Russell says my first buddy Ryan.

He came to while sitting on a lazy boy couch in some random guy's apartment in Amsterdam watching cartoons of three of the morning. Dude, that's the best is when you come to like the same night. When you black out for so long that you wake up in the night is still going. It's like not the next morning.

It's like, oh, I'm still in this. I'm not in a bed. It's not over. Let me go back into a dreamy rabbit. You're like, I woke up walking.

Like, what? Where am I? So yeah, it comes through this guy's apartment. What? Watch your cartoons three in the morning.

And he says this guy next to him is in the middle of some stream of consciousness rant as if they've been having this conversation for hours. Unbelievable. And Ryan asks him, where am I? And the guy gets up.

Where am I? Wait. Where am I? The guy gets up, starts massaging shoulders, tells him to relax. Could be a good sign or a bad sign.

That might be a nice, nice person at that point. Ryan gets up for tends to go to the bathroom. Fakes right, sprints left, out the front door, runs down the road until he gets the hell again. Nice.

Only problem. He left his wallet in that guy's apartment. Fuck it.

“So, how's he going to get, how's he going to get home?”

How's he going to get out of Europe? Get's in the cab, so he gets back to the hostel. But the cash no money. So the cab driver is heist. Yeah.

And at that point, it's floor in the morning. So Ryan figured me and my other buddy Matt were asleep in the dorm room. And this is 2012. So digital payment, not really a thing. Exactly.

Can't pay attention. So he'd run up. So he's like, let me go up and get my money from my roommates. Banging on the door for 15 minutes. I had to get the hostel staff to open the door.

Neither of them were back yet at four in the morning. So the he goes back downstairs. The cab driver says, I'll be back in five hours. And I want double the fare. I like it.

So flash cut to me. This is Russell's run it. He was ready to email. I wake up at six a.m. At an abandoned train station.

Wait, he didn't go to bed? No. He says, I am at an abandoned train station. This is where I wake up. And he says, I'm talking plan of the apes.

The humans are long gone. This has been reclaimed by nature. Like 28 days later. Yeah, 28. 28 years.

There's no train station around. I walk outside. No phone. No memory of how I got there. And it turns out I look outside.

I turned out I was eight kilometers outside of Amsterdam. No idea I got there. Kilometers. I paced as I panicked for 15 minutes. Then run outside.

And basically just run. There's a road like like 1,000 meters away. And he just runs to the road. Wait 15 minutes. It's an incredibly rural area.

And he says, I wait. And then eventually I see a cab. And he says, I sprint after this cab. Please tell me it's the same guy that I actually wish I had made edited the story to make it the same guy.

But it's not. But I see sprints for this cab. And I can't say what I just said. So Russ says the cab driver. I catch the cab.

And Russ says the cab driver said he's I'm finished for the night six in the morning. And I'm on my way home. But he said the cab driver says he'll drop me back at my hostel.

If I get in the car with him, but he has to run a few errands first.

So for an hour, me, who's incredibly hungover, disheveled, disoriented. And this very friendly middle aged Dutch cab driver went grocery shopping. That's awesome.

They go grocery shop. They get 630 of the morning in Amsterdam.

Then the Dutch cab driver drops me back at my hostel about 8 AM.

And my buddy Ryan is furious in panic because he needs 150 euros and two hours. I didn't have enough money.

So we need a third buddy Matt to help.

But he hadn't come back either. Flash cut to 1 AM.

“And Matt is in the bathroom at this club we were at.”

And he can't find us. So instead of looking for us, he starts talking to two girls at the bar. They dance together for hours. They invite him back to their place. They tell him make yourself comfortable and disappear into their bedroom.

He's thinking he's about to have a threesome in the Netherlands. And he strips completely naked. They come back into the room in full pajamas brushing their teeth. Oh. They see him naked and they burst out laughing.

Just just full on laughter. Okay. And then they tell him, "Leave." And they take him out for the morning. There's no cabs at four in the morning.

So he walks three hours back to the hall. Three hours. Three hours. Nice. Nice.

And much to the relief of being Ryan who've been panicking about the consequences of the thank you cab driver. Matt gets back 15 minutes before the cab driver shows up. And they have like all their money. They get in coins and crumpled notes and pulling stuff out of like.

Best. Anything. And they get. That's the shit right there. Go through your pockets in the morning.

The cab driver pulls up and he's so disgusted by like them seeing them. Everything. The cab driver just lets him keep the money. Wow. I love that.

It's like, I don't want that fucking shit. It all worked out. More than the story. Have a crazy night. Go for it.

Yeah. I have pictures from my backpacking days of this when we were just all at a bar totally shit. I was like middle like early morning. And someone had like pulled out all their shit. Other pockets and they had like coins, cigarettes, lighter, like passport.

They just had it all on the table in front of them. I thought it was like the funniest thing ever. It's like their whole life. Just right there. That's all I need.

That's all you need in life. Also, it's incredible. There's so many hangover stories.

And thank you never in a set of men.

It's amazing how much of them revolve around. You lost a wallet. You lost a phone down. Yeah. I accidentally.

When you're telling a story, I conflated the guy who ended up at a train. I thought the same guy ended up at a train station. Yeah. I was like. Oh, like he blew that out.

He went back. Yeah. I mixed that up. But that makes sense now. But I had friends this happened to influence very similar situation.

They did like a post. Like they just went on. They just don't. Yeah. I love those kinds of stories.

This story checks out based on my experience backpacking with Australians. It's also just one of the more remarkable parts of the human body that you can be so drunk that the brain goes. We're going to shut down for the night. You can close.

Your brain does last call. Let's see you later. Yeah. We're going to head out. Do whatever you want to do.

The body is keep going. It's crazy that that's possible.

“You could just not remember what's happening.”

Yeah. Yeah. You become a baby. It's like an animal. God.

Uh. Well, I want to read one of the email and remember if that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Emma, this was this was charming to read.

Emma writes, my breakfast this morning was an English muffin with avocado and chickpea. That my husband makes for me. The Sarachan top. I've eaten the exact same breakfast almost every day for five years.

Wow. That's great. That sounds good. So Emma, I was charmed by this. Emma says, I told my husband I was sending this email because she was favorite podcast.

Nice. He begged me not to send this email, but to that. All right. He said, I have to start with my breakfast. I have no idea why.

Apparently that that is what you do. Mm-hmm. Anyway, I'm writing in because my husband, Tyler Tanaguchi, has been nominated to throw

out the first pitch at a Seattle mayor in his game for nurse appreciation night.

Well, I'm just in May. We got the full name. Well, because you're going to have to vote for him. So my husband is an emergency room nurse at Oregon Health and Science University in Portland, Oregon.

He's been a mayor in his fans since he was a kid growing up in Seattle. He's a huge sports nerd like you guys, which was a little bit of a day gap. But the mariners are above all for him. And even if this gets just read by you and you throw a couple of votes your way, his way, it would mean the world.

He works his ass off as a nurse at a level one trauma hospital, and it stays late to take care of his patients and really just deserve something cool like this. And she attached the link and you can vote and there's like 20 nurses. That could throw out the first pitch at this mariners game. And with respect and love to the other 19, I want Tyler to win.

I want Tyler to win. And I want to listen to vote for him. And if you don't join our bracket pool, which is in the episode description, next to the bracket pool, I want to put the link to vote for this.

“Can we get into where a gentleman's piss club shirt when he wins this?”

And throws out the first pitch at a Mariners game? Probably going to decome out some mariners stuff, but like, you know what? He can mention us maybe. Sure, sure. But yeah, Tyler 10, it gives you second of the bottom because the alphabet.

So, you know what? But I'm voting for Tyler. All right. Just voted. Boom.

I put this in the episode description.

I've never stood a work.

We'll put it in the episode description. So there we go. I love this. I love this. Her husband was like, don't send it in.

Sounds like a nice guy, too. Making his wife breakfast every morning for five years. That is, that is, that's a green flag. Okay. So with all that said, Craig, you were at the Oscars on Sunday.

Yeah, baby. Tuxedo. Tuxedo. Lookin' good. Thanks.

I kind of want you to just take me through. Unless you have anything you don't start with. I kind of want you to just take me through chronologically. I imagine most people listing don't even know anyone who ever goes to the Oscars. So tell me everything.

Starting from like, what touch you wear is it regular touch wedding touch? And then like, what time do you, what time do you actually have to leave? It is my wedding touch.

This is the third Oscars I've been to.

You do. I've got a lot of run out of my wedding touch. I've now worn it. Obviously my wedding, three Oscars and then a couple other weddings. I've got like six wears out of that thing in three years.

Not bad. Not bad at all. So starting last year, they moved the Oscars up an hour. So now it starts at four Pacific. It used to be five.

Love that. So yeah. It is nice. Because it goes so damn long. We've got 30 East Coast is so reasonable.

Right.

“I went with Matt Baloney, who host the town pod guest, which you should listen to.”

We left that around one o'clock. And it takes a while to get that. We went with two other guys. And we were in this like, it's like you're in like a black SUV and you go. And it takes, I mean, probably an hourish hour plus hour 80 minutes to get there.

Because the north, most of the trip is normal. And then you get to Highland Avenue, Highland Boulevard. And it's just like a parking lot because there's so much security. They gate all of Highland. Well, especially this week with certain things that 100%.

And once you get through like the little like area, you're just basically sitting there.

And they have like dogs that are going around. You have to open your trunk that dogs look in the trunk. There's Pete, you have like all the bar codes on your phone. So you basically just sit in this long line of like exclusively black SUVs for like 40 minutes before you actually get to the front. Which is like the red carpet on Hollywood Boulevard.

And then you get out and then you walk through. So we've probably got there at two 15 in the show started at four. So you're going, you're going through a different entrance, right? But it's still a red carpet. Same entrance.

You, everybody walks through the same security. All that's the same. But once you get through all that, there's the red carpet. And then it's literally like so the red carpet is like everyone taking photos. There's like bleachers of paparazzi and stuff like that.

And what the celebrities are taking photos in front of what they call a step and repeat, which is just like the giant backdrops. I'm just behind the backdrop walking. And you can like peek around and stuff like that. And then they merge back together again.

It's like two lanes merging back to one. Once you round the corner and head into the Dolby theater, which is just a mall, a terrible mall that they dress. And you would have no idea when you're there. Like, oh my god, because they built it for the Oscars. But it's just a shitty mall when they don't do the Oscars.

But it merges back together. And then there's like one red carpet that everyone's on together. That you walk up the stairs into the actual theater.

“Is that the famous stairs that the person fell down?”

No, one time. Was that an, was that the Oscars or something? Is that like at some international, is that can? I think it was a can. So where are you sitting?

You're up there with the, yeah. I'm on the Mezzanine, which is there's like four levels. Four. Yeah, it's high. It's really teared.

The top is like, unfortunately, like family members of below the line workers. They're like, you know, the, the, the, the, the wife of the gaffer of sinners or something. Would be sitting up there, unfortunately. We were on level two. Matt used to sit on level one when he worked at the hall.

He worked at the hall at a reporter. But after he laughed and started puck, which is like, it's on independent thing. We are on level two now. We're in the front of level two though. So you still get a nice thing.

You're making your way up. It's like, really. I'm certainly not complaining about my stuff. It's pretty good. I have a question.

How do, who decides who gets to go on the red carpet versus not? Like the celebrity red carpet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you, what's the cut-off line?

“How big of a celebrity do you have to be to go on the red carpet?”

I actually don't think there's technically like a list of who you can go. I think I could technically go walk on it. Nobody would know what it was. It's like forgetting certain ourselves. It's like, hey, Jake, can't talk.

He's holding your holding so much. You can out of the way. I think I could. Yeah, there's nobody like, are you, are you famous? Hey, Jake, can't talk.

Out of the way. Yeah, I could do it. You show them up, boss. Yeah. Okay, for best dress, worst dress, Craig.

Oh, good. Who's the best dress? I don't know. But you had opinions. Who looked good?

I don't have a stone look really nice. Yeah, bet you.

Michael, he always looks good.

Tim, he was wearing all white suit and he kind of has like shaggy hair and a mustache. Now, kind of looks like, I don't know how terrible. I don't know how terrible. It doesn't look good. Worst dress.

So you're, well, firstly, you said, the thing you texted from there was that the, the sinner's contingent was really loud. Like, it was like a sports game or one team just showed up like way bigger than the other teams. Yeah. And I think it's because sinners is a more domestically popular movie.

And I think one battle one because of the international vote.

I think the people in the room were bigger sinners fans.

It's probably was running for sinners. Yeah. I mean, the both great movies. I think both would be deserving. But he has way louder.

It was kind of weird actually. Like, every time sinners came up, it was booming in there. And one battle, it was like a very normal applause even when it went at one best picture. Like if sinners went best picture, that place would have exploded. But MBJ winning was huge, cooler winning, screenplay.

Both films won a lot, which is kind of nice. The one thing I will say that was cool that I haven't done the previous two times is. So like I said, there's, there's levels, right? And at each level, you walk out, like during the commercial, you can walk out into like a lobby area where there's a bar. And so each level has a bar.

And you can't go on the first level though unless you have special wristbands because the first levels were all the famous people sit.

We got wristbands this year. So during some of the like, you know, certain categories, you maybe want to slip out, go to the bathroom, go to drink. We went down to the first floor. Dude, and it's literally just like, they're just like us. Like, I'm out there drinking a diet, coconut whiskey, and like Emma Stone and her husband are just standing next to me having white wine just chatting it up during the Oscars.

And like, selling scarves cards over there, just like also drinking a glass of white wine. And it's just, they're just like, ah, there's this aboring stretch of the show. I'm going to go have a drink and hang in the car.

“Can you imagine chatting up selling scarves card at the fucking Oscars?”

Did you talk to him? No, but at the after party, he watched right past me and looked down at my plate, which had a little hot dog on it. And he looked up at me in the eyes and was kind of like, that looks good. He's a big guy. Yeah, he's huge.

How tall? He's like 6-3. Can we get a taller than you think shorter than you think report? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Paul Maskell was way taller than I thought.

He was also at the bar with Gracie Abrams. Um, but he's wearing boots, they all wear boots.

And I was like, dude, he looks like he's like 6-foot 6-1, which I definitely did not think he was.

And I think he was, I think they were in boots. I don't know, he's Irish. Irish, Irish, where boots? Not sure, but what kind of boots are we saying? Patrick's Day?

He was wearing like like male black boots that gave him like a good two three inches. I realize interesting. I'm seeing it on the internet that he's 5-11. Yeah, that's a little taller than I thought. I was surprised by that.

Alright. Um, Conan O'Brien, giant armist, but we all knew that. He's big dude. Um, who else? Who else?

It's like, I mean, yes. How tall is Michael B. Jordan? I did not, I was not close to him.

“Who are the other people that you're walking by?”

I love the one. Yeah, so it was Emma Stone and her husband Dave McCurray's very tall. 6-4. He's interesting, because he worked at it. Worked out, or maybe still does, works at SNL.

And he, I don't know if you remember Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett, remember those guys on SNL? Actually, yeah, vaguely. Yes, Dave McCurray is in that crew of guys. They're from San Diego.

And they got popular with a YouTube channel called Good Neighbor Stuff on YouTube. And we used to love them. And high school and college. And then they got on SNL. They went to USC and they blew up.

But Dave was one of, like, he was in that group, but not on camera. And I think I'm still met him at SNL. But he was very tall, like, 6-4. Um. Chasing Finity.

Cool to see her. I can't believe that's her real name. I really, just assumed that was a staged name. I can't believe Chase and Fits. She's the one, the daughter from one better alternative.

I cannot, I actually got it kept getting it backwards.

“Because you see, like, this character in the actress, right?”

And then I kept thinking that actress's name was her kid. Was her name in the movie. Yeah. I got to say, you know who looked fantastic? Leonardo DiCaprio.

I was going to ask you about this project. This was something that was happening on socials last night. It was like, or on Sunday night, I should say. When did he get good looking again?

So here's what I need to have it.

Whatever, first of all, he showed up with a mustache. His mustache is good. Like, he had a good mustache. Fantastic caterpillar on his lip. I can't remember the last time I've seen him with a mustache.

And I think whatever, he's filming the movie in Europe with Scorsese right now. And I think for the role, he's, he's shed a little bit of weight. And he looks great. Like, I saw him. He definitely is lost weight.

He looks fantastic. He's like face was just like waste slimmer than mustache or killer. He was crushing it. He's fully back. He looked awesome.

Everybody's like, oh, he's like, he's morphing into Jack Nicholson. They're wrong. He has one final run in him because he looks awesome. Who did that whole meme thing? Where's he?

He's not alfanning. Who was really good in a sentimental value? Beloved alfanning. He's like the fanning sisters are very high. Everybody loves them.

She actually seemed like the most well liked person at the Oscar. Looked down. The commercial breaks are really fun because everybody gets up. All the celebs and they just start glad hand each other, chatting and hanging out. And then there's a big countdown.

And all of their handlers and PR people are like, you got to go sit down. You got to go sit down. But it's like, alfanning was everywhere. Like leaning over seeds, chatting with people. Her and Tiana Taylor seemed like very friendly and running around.

Well, they want to tailor. When they one best picture put Paul. I thought she was going to crank Paul Thomas.

This is neck.

They look like a UFC.

Like she's put him in a kimura.

And she's strong. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I was like, I kind of expected BTA to take the award. Like was like neck like what was the biggest piece of buzz that was like,

like people were talking about on either the red carpet area or like, in between commercial breaks. Before the before the event. The conversation was like, could sinners win best picture after the event. Timmy losing was like another.

I was going to ask about that. I. Yeah. The big controversy. I'm glad they didn't win any words.

I was like, I watched that movie and I'm like. I think this is a big opera. The movie we're talking about is Marty Supreme. But. Hi, Vince Texan.

I don't know if you just texted me or if it was the both of us.

“But you were like, hey, Craig, are people supposed to like this movie?”

Why did this get so many nominations? And then you're like, I'm only 20 minutes in. I want to turn it off. Yeah. I.

I don't. It's funny because. I.

As opinionated as I am with football.

I don't like to shit on other things. People like and movies or things. Like, as I feel like someone likes a movie and loves it. I feel bad to their face being like, I hate it. Like, I feel like, I don't know.

There's a yummy sucker. But I have to say. Marty Supreme watching it. And I look, I'm not some. I'm one person who cares.

But watching Marty Supreme. I. I genuinely didn't know if there was like a underlying satire that I did not understand. Or if this was just the Timothy. The Timothy Shalom a machine, PR it up, a Josh Saffty movie.

And everyone's like, well, the last Saffty movies with his brother were good. And I'm like, well, everyone's like, well, this director's good. And Timothy's famous and next. Honestly, it was like Hillary Clinton was like, I'm next. I get to be the nominee.

2016. No one else gets to run. I'm like, Timothy Shalom is like, I'm next. I'm the next Leo. And everyone's just annoyed.

And then I watched the movie and like, this sucks. I'm having a terrible time. It wasn't fun. It wasn't cool. And frankly, Josh Saffty needs to work with his brother again.

And Shalom A, I'm like, what? Frankly, you spend eight years on this fucking movie. And I'm like, this look, if you just come up on Amazon Prime, one of those little carousels that come up on Netflix or Prime. And I turned it on.

I would have turned it off and never thought about it ever again.

And the idea that it was nominated for Best Picture, the Wilder's Me.

“And it just makes me feel like the Mike Tomlin, like, you know what?”

The Academy, like, Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me. Because I don't fucking get it. So you didn't like it. No, I don't like it. I don't like it.

Maybe it wasn't like it. I don't like it to do this. But you can do it after another I watched and was underwhelmed. Senors and one battle after another went into both and was like, I've heard this is like the best movie theater.

One day after another I was underwhelmed. But I understand that if I watched it again, I'd be like, I know there's more there. And I might feel theater. Yes.

And I might feel differently about it over time. And frankly, I think that that movie's about parenthood too. And I understand that, like, you see everything differently in the future. I get that. Morty Supreme, I'm never watching that.

I'm like, that's, I don't know. You're not going to watch it again? It was a worse version of the other movies. It's a worse. It's like so much worse than uncut gems than it honestly.

Like, I don't, I don't know. The safety, that's very stressful movie. And it's very one note. What? I just, you deserve the lose.

It sucked.

“I actually, I don't know if I agree with that.”

I think Timmy's performance. I would have given the war to over NBA. I wanted to win. I thought Leo should have won. But the tough thing now is that I feel like,

obviously it's hard to get people to go to the movie theater. So the marketing behind these movies has to be so fucking insane and over the top and hyperbolic that you go thinking that this is going to be the greatest movie you've ever seen. And you're just, you have no shot to be about to be underwhelmed.

And I think that's a big problem now. Is that Timmy's everywhere's got the cool jacket on. They's doing all this like abstract marketing. And one battle is like the movie of our decade and centers is like the greatest original story ever told.

And then my parents texted me like, by the way, we watched centers. It was okay. And I'm like, yeah, it's hard. When you, it got the most Oscar nominations in the history of the Academy centers did.

That's hard, that's a hard sell. It's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a high bar. Yeah, it's, yeah. I don't really shooting on it. But I, I like Marty Supreme.

I thought it looked great. I thought it was really fun. It was stressful, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the ping pong. The one thing I didn't need.

You enjoyed the ping pong. Yeah, I did. I enjoyed the ping pong. I enjoyed the ping pong. Oh, I thought the, the him at the end in Japan.

Against the guy, I was, I thought it was good. Yeah. I did Mr. Wonderful casting. It was like, if someone else had done, if Nicolas, if someone other actor and put Mr. Wonderful

and Tyler the creator in a movie, everyone would be like this is dumb. Oh, actually, she, I thought the casting was fun and invented different things. I'm like, oh, I thought, I thought Tyler the creator was really good.

I love Tyler the creator. But I'm like, I, you know what, I don't want to, it's, it's a cast out of the bag here. Hi, if it's you can. So I don't, I don't care. I'm not trying to, I will say, I do want to, I, I, I want to correct to get out of this after party.

Go. Well, so this year, a couple of things. So in, in previous years, I went to both of the after parties of the studio that won Best Picture. I went to Oppenheimer, which is universal and I went to,

Uh, Nora, which is neon.

Biggest flex in the history of this show. Yes, is that Matt was able to do that.

“This year, one battle, one, the party was at, um, a restaurant in Beverly Hills.”

And they didn't allow press. Honestly, I kind of respect it. I'm like, I wouldn't want press either if I was going to party after winning an award. I did. So I didn't go to that.

But what I did, I went to the governors, and the, and the, and the other studios to parties too. But I went to the, uh, governor's ball party, which is like, the official Oscars after party that happens on the premises, like, on the floor above. And it's like, it's massive room. And it's where everyone goes to get their, um, statues engraved.

And so everyone, like, has to go there first.

And Wolf game puck does all the food. And she's right, it's basically like, like, like a giant homecoming dance with all these people now intermingling amongst one another. So like, I'm like, headed to go get, you know, a burger slider across the room. And on the way, I'm like sliding past Spielberg, which is like learning Chloe's y'all, because they both worked on Hamlet.

And so that's pretty nuts. It is, it is like a high school dance where like, you kind of can't see who's there until you enter the mix. And then once you're in it, you're like, Oh, shit. That's Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, shit. That's what the, a scars garden.

Um, so I did that. And that was very fun. But I did not go to the, uh, one of those party, unfortunately. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't have a few small beers with Bernicelle del Toro. Which would have been sweet.

[laughs] That is crazy. I, the only other, oh, wait. We have to mention the tie. The short action category.

There was a tie. Yeah. I got to say, Camilla and Johnny handled that so well, they must have taken all of them ahead of time. He figured out so quickly. Yeah. Yeah, they tiped him up before, but he still, he was like, it's a tie.

Nobody panic. This, this can't happen.

This is allowed. Um, it's like the seventh time. It's happened in Academy history. But it's because with certain categories, like that, I think it was like live action short.

There's so few voters that atties when we're a common. That makes sense. But yeah. That was crazy.

“The only thing I wanted to mention is Conan from the hosting.”

I thought the funniest thing Conan said all night. Was they did that bit with Sterling K-Brown. Yeah. About like, what have caught all the movies had been done. You know, the Netflix application, everyone like on their phone,

whether of TV on, you know, I mean, you guys can put our show on Netflix and have the, your phone out. That's fine. Just put our show on Netflix on right now.

That's cool. But like the, you know, they're like writing scripts now to like say, you know, telling people instead of showing people. They're just like explaining everything.

And they did like Casa Blanca if it was over explained on a streamer. And they were like, you know, because I'm in a love triangle in World War II. And they're like because of the war. World War II, right?

Yeah. Sterling K-Brown is like playing the piano. He's like, World War II. That's the Hitler one, right? That was really good.

They had a couple good barbs. I think the Timmy Barb for ballet and opera was good. And then joking that this was Ted Serrano's

his first time in a theater.

That was good. Did you see Harrison Ford? Was he in the house? Hmm. I would have loved that.

He got a lifetime achievement at some awards this year. I'm desperate to see. I have seen him in person. I went to the after party for the newest Indiana Jones. And he was, he was there.

And I met, I actually briefly met his wife. Callista Flockhart. But I have forgotten. Callista Flockhart. Yeah.

That sounds like a defense against the dark arts team. You don't know her? Harry Potter. She was a big latter than a rock art. Yeah.

So, but I've been very close to Harry. Never spoken to him. Harry? The goat. Yeah.

Are you guys just parents also telling you to watch shrinking? Why? All every parent said a parent say no is watching sure. They're like you with Ted Lasseau. It's the same thing.

It is. I wasn't earlier on Lasseau though. I was late. I've heard great things about shrinking to be honest. You know what's the truth of it is that I hear great things about every God didn't tell them to show.

They're all good. And I believe them. They just too much fucking content. Yeah. Someone's like oh you got to watch industry.

It's so good. And then I started industry. I'm like it is good. But there's like 40 new shows every year. It's like a landman's great.

And I'm like I'm sure it is. Wait. Someone was someone might have been awesome.

“Someone a couple of weeks ago was like you should watch industry.”

And they would pause like wait. You're watching madmen right now, right? And I was like yeah. They're like to that. Yeah, don't do it. Yeah, they're like Swedish madmen.

Yes, what is funny is Liz is currently rewatching madmen. And we are starting industry. So it's going to collide at one point. That's no good. You don't want that.

We're going to get out of here. But when we get out of here, then we're going to have Tate Frazier on and talk to us about much madness. That's right. Tate's coming up right.

Very soon. Very soon. Charlie. Thank you Danny Kelly. Thank you Craig.

Thank you to Cam. Thank you Abu. Thank you Carlos. Thank you Austin. Thank you to Tate Frazier who's about to come on this show.

Thank you. Thank you to the emails of your fancy football. Gmail.com about our. About hangover stories. Joy vote for the nurse in the episode description.

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I want to prove to Emma that his podcast. Listen to isn't just for losers. Like we have we have to try to get this guy to win the nurse thing. And then join our March Madness bracket. It's our March Madness pool is.

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Lord. Thank you David Barrett. You see the famously of. One shine. Amen.

It's March. Baby. Nice. I looked it up. That song was originally written about basketball.

But it was not commissioned for the March Madness tournament. He was originally inspired by Larry Bird when he wrote the song in 1986.

And it was first intended to be used for Super Bowl 21.

Wow. Interesting. It's a great song. Oh.

“DK, are you familiar with when they play that at the end when they're cutting down the nets?”

Like, yeah, kind of. I'm generally familiar with it. I couldn't sing you this song. Until this year. Yeah, this year.

I don't know the other lyrics either to be honest. I actually don't at all. All right. All right. All right.

All right. Let's get to tape. All right. Now we are joined by a special guest. The ringer's very on tape phrasier from the ringer tailgate and the ringer gambling show.

And the literal first employee of the ringer. Tape phrasier. Literally employee number one. I love that. Thank you, Danny.

I appreciate the shout out. And I'm happy to be here. Happy to talk March Madness. I know you guys are probably in the throes of like NFL draft talk coming up around the court. So I appreciate you taking the time and doing the lords work talking about college basketball.

So shout out to you guys. It's the best sporting event of the year in my opinion. I love it. Tape. How many brackets do you marry?

Are you like DK DK's in like 25 fantasy leagues? Do you do one bracket? Do you do 30? How many do you do? Yeah.

I have like you get kind of pulled into these pools. And then you kind of just like a greet. You know, I got like my fiance's family. I got my family. You got friends from college.

You got friends from college.

“But do you the same bracket every time when you mix it up?”

So that's the tough part. I mean, a lot of people think it's like unethical to kind of mix up your brackets and have different picks. But I like to go, I like to spread out to love a little bit. You know what I mean? Because there's a lot of scenarios, a lot of different things that could happen.

I have my one true bracket, which I haven't done yet.

I kind of waited the first fours done.

And then I print out my bracket and I fill it out. That'll be Wednesday night. But yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie. You know, I got Duke and some. I got Arizona and some Michigan and some.

You know, whatever you feel like flavor the day have some fun with it. You know, see what happens. Bracket of ethics. I have one quick question before we get in this stuff. You mentioned the play in games.

That started in 2011. So it went from 64 teams to 68. There's two planes. Do you like that? I like Dayton.

I like the storylines and Dayton. And also we've had some great teams come out of Dayton, right? I mean, we wouldn't have FDU and Purdue the upset without the Dayton game, right? We remember Tobin Anderson goes in the locker room. And he's like, I like our draw with Purdue.

And people thought he was insane. And then they ended up beating Purdue. That was a nice moment.

UCLA goes from, you know, the first four to the final four back in 2021.

VCU back in the day as well. So like we've got some great stories out of the first four. So therefore I do like it. I don't like it if it goes to like the early eight or, you know, the, I don't even know what the illiteration is for the 12.

But they're trying to push that to 76. I don't like that version of it. But right now I'm okay with the first four. And also we kind of know what it is. You know, it's not the real tournament yet.

Yeah, I wanted to ask you about like just March madness. And I was changed because I already feel like I'm old now. And I just look at the March madness. And I'm wondering last year. It was like all the number one seeds made the funnel forward.

“It was like, I think only the second time that it ever happened.”

And then I think I think I could be wrong. I think only one double digit seed made the sweet 16. And obviously it's one year, but it's also obviously. And I was kind of pushed a lot of like quality NBA prospects back into the top teams. But it's kind of like everything else in the world's consolidated at the top.

And then all these like mid major teams roll these lesser teams that might be winning with experience and they played together for years and they have older players. Now with transfer portal, it feels like those teams might be gone. So I'm wondering, is that like a one year blip from last year or just going forward or like Cinderella runs dead? That seems to be like the the Atlantic article, right?

The Cinderella is dead. And then we kind of all read that and we're like, Oh, yeah, that's sort of the story. I think Debundo actually just wrote that. He was telling me he's like, I'm right about the Cinderella is being dead. I think there is a gap, right?

I think the gap is getting larger from like the top tier. From like the top tier teams to the middle tier teams to the bottom teams. And if you could look at the point spreads, not that we want to get into the point spreads. But so much, but like it used to be a one seedest favor by like 18 and a half. Now it's closer to 23 and a half.

There has been a funnel up to the top of talent, right? And it's kind of three different pools that you get these players coming from. You get the international guys that are coming over. You got a great freshman class. And then also you get the guys from a Princeton or whatever else.

And you pull them up the ranks to a Florida. And that's sort of how the things play out. And now we don't have as many superstars.

You also get like the coaches from those levels that get pulled up to the hig...

And we're turning over coaches more than ever. So I don't think it's a blip. I think it's a bomb. I think it's sort of the future of where we get to, where the top tier teams separate themselves.

“And I think that's why we're going to have a chalky, lead aid, sweet 16 kind of from the second week and on.”

But we still will have some upsets in the first round.

And I'm excited to try to figure out what those are. Is it I can't tell if that this is a better or worse college basketball environment now. Because like you said, I mean a lot like all the lottery guys now are in college, which is fun. It's not like G league euros that these you can make money in college now. So everyone's coming to college.

And that's cool. But also, you know, I went to San Diego State. They didn't make the tournament for the first time in five years this year. I'm bummed. The mid majors are getting squeezed.

SCC had 10 teams. Big 10 had nine teams. The big 12 in the ACC at eight teams. The mountain West had one. They had no at large bit this year despite having like seven teams that won 20 games.

And if you have anyone decent they're just gone to go to a big power for school the next year. So I feel like it's like two ways. One is cool that you're like, wow, all these great players are kind of back in college. And I can watch these teams like Michigan, Duke and Arizona. And they are like legit awesome to watch.

But now the 12 seed that goes to the final four. It's kind of dead.

“Like do you prefer it now or the way it was 15 years ago?”

I like the model of what it is now. But I prefer when you know, I could see Oscar Cluff playing for Wazoo, right? Instead of he's been pulled up the ranks to Purdue. And like even the Yaxel Linda board, right? At UAB now he's the best player on Michigan, right?

All these guys kind of go Nick Boyd. You're guy from San Diego State. One of the best guards in the tournament now plan for Wisconsin. And you know, you've been looking like a very underbuilt team. It's like two Carolina regiacks that are now playing great basketball and Tyler Nichol and Jalen Washington.

So you end up weirdly having these connections to these other players that you see. Sometimes you hate them, right? Like a Florida fan probably hates Denzel Aberdeen playing for Kentucky. But you do have familiarity because you do know these guys. And if you're now the 27th through the 40th pick or whatever it is, you have more incentive to go back to college basketball and get paid two and a half,

three million dollars to go be a superstar for a team.

So it does help the product at the end of the day. But it also takes away a little bit of the majesty because, you know, we got guys that are playing four different schools and four years. I hope they put a cap at some point where you can transfer once or twice. But again, that's freedom of movement.

And I don't think that's going to hold up in the courts. And every time the NCAA goes to court outside of the Betty Acco thing where they brought in a glee guy, they pretty much lose. And, you know, it just feels like that's the world that we live in now. I'm going to be the, I don't have any smart questions for the record.

I'm going to be the audience. It's a great start. People that tune in to college basketball right now and are trying to make their, their bracket, everything out what I'm hearing from you is, get to be chalky. So I'm going to have my number one seeds go far this year.

Should it on that last year? But that being said, if you're looking at some of the, you know, 14, 15, 16, even like 12, 13 seeds, who do you think, among some of these teams has like the best draw. And or has like that ringer guy that's going to be just absolutely lighting it up

and kind of pushing them through to the, to the, you know, whether it's the sweet 16 or lead day or whatever.

“Who, who do you like in those in that kind of area, long island?”

I've never heard of that.

I've never heard of that. Who's the Jake Golky of this year? Jack Golky. Yeah, Jack Golky is like that's the thing about the tournament, right? You never kind of know like who's going to end up being the superstar. And you know, nobody would have thought that Shaheen Holloway and St.

Peters and Doug Adder are going to be, you know, guys that end up making a run, right? It's impossible to predict. A cow baddust team against Kansas. That kind of feels like a story line.

You can talk about like a 13 seed where like everyone's like, "Dear and Peterson's playing well, Kansas can make a run. They'll give Duke trouble and then they lose to cow baddust." Oh, I want to, I want to pause with Kansas. I, because I, like everyone else loved becoming in total expert.

I part of the wanted to drag you on this show and just tell you about the tournament. I love you. Please, I'm happy to listen. I, here's why I take my shocked catching up on March Madness. So Darren Peterson's the best player of Kansas.

Might be the number one pick in the NBA draft to the number two pick. And I was shocked to learn. So the number one pick in the NBA draft of Kansas is maybe being load-managed. But by his agents, not by the coach.

And that he's been kind of leaving games for cramps or maybe cramps with air quotes. And he just is not playing the final few minutes of games that are competitive. Like, what is going on? Yeah, we finally got the answer. So he does have an agent who is a de-disnations guy that everyone kind of knows.

And, you know, he was Joel in B's agent. The agent that tried to tell Joel in B that the tournament doesn't matter. He shouldn't play in it. So I mean, there is a little bit of history there. So that plays into it at some level.

It is. We finally got some clarity. Like, Darren Peterson came out. They did a story. I can't remember what out there, like maybe like Kansas City or whatever.

Like some publication near him came out. And they had like the real tell of like what happened. He had a spell before the season started where he had full body cramps. He said it was quote unquote a traumatic experience.

Whenever he felt the cramps again, he was worried about having full body cramps.

Now, I appreciate the fact that he was honest and sort of finally told his version of the story.

“Because everybody else was trying to figure out what it was and who's telling him what to do.”

His dad's involved as well. Kind of like a helicopter dad situation. But it doesn't help for the next level because now the NBA teams are like, Wait a second, you have full body cramps. Are we sure that was you?

What is that? That's a thing. He had full body cramps. His whole body was cramping? Yeah, it's like, yeah, basically like, you know, just kind of like locks up on him.

And he can't. He felt like any sort of cramping, he was worried. He was going to get full body cramps like he did. So it was like a traumatic experience. Yeah, it's weird because on one hand,

I, you know, it's a medical situation. I don't respect it. And on the other hand, I don't know. It's a lot of cramps. Yeah, there's also some conversation about his hydration.

Apparently he only drinks like, he's like in idiocracy. He only drinks like a brown dough or whatever. Like he only drinks like some sort of electrolyte. He doesn't drink water. And then there's like something with his diet.

He doesn't have enough iron. I don't know. I mean, this is we're so in the weeds at this point. So who's this kids to play round one? I'm going to take them.

That's going to be my help. Help that. I'm out of this. There you go. Go with the Baptist.

That's the drink water. But if Darren Peterson plays the tournament, and he's at his absolute best, can Kansas win the tournament or no? Yes, I mean, that's the problem with this Kansas team.

Like they're sealing. They were the first team to beat Arizona this year. Yes, they won at home. But like they're starting five is pretty solid across the board. Melvin Kansas, Council's a special player.

Darren Peterson's been great off the ball. Tray whites. A great X factor. Bryson Taylor got benched in the big 12 tournament game. But at times, he's a little great.

Another freshman. That's really good for this team. And then for him. But Doom goes one of the best room protectors in college basketball. So like they're starting five.

They don't have much depth. But when the five is all playing out there. And Darren Peterson is involved. They're they're a tough out for anybody. So like the Kansas variants from like they could lose to Cal Baptist.

And I go, oh, that makes sense. Or Kansas goes to the Final Four and upsets Duke. And I'd be like that makes sense.

“That's why I feel like that's the team that has the most volatility”

as far as the top four seeds. You mentioned upsetting Duke. And I just want to again. I think starting at the beginning here for people like deep. I've been an expert on college basketball for almost five full days.

So but Dean Kay here doesn't know anything. The Duke thing. First of all, the Duke story. It's incredible. I mean, I don't know if you know the story of Cameron Bouser,

where Carlos Bouser, the NBA player, his oldest son had on sickle cell. And then they did the IVF with the twins that really do do bone marrow for them. And it's a really cool story. But then the side part ended up being Kim Bouser is going to be like a freaking NBA superstar. And so, Tate, I saw, I think Roger Sherman is a good news letter.

He does call sports. He said, "Kim Bouser is averaging the most points per game for Duke since JJ Retic." Wow. Yeah, look at Danny Heifin. He's locked in on the numbers. You picked Duke to win and build show.

Which is just like putting your body in front of the reverse jinx. So John Shire doesn't become coach cat. You and C. die hard. What are you doing? I'm fighting the good fight. You know what I mean?

You make the picks and you pray to God they don't happen. That's what you're supposed to do on the shows.

Yeah, Kim Bouser's been incredible.

I got a lot of flack during the offseason. I said he reminded me of Tyler Handsboro. I had a lot of Duke fans come up with my neck about that. But he really is. He's like steady, Eddie.

He gets you 18 and 10 or whatever it is. Even when he plays bad, it's like 13, 8, 8 like he did against Virginia. And he and his twin have this kind of, you know, twin connection. And Kate and Bouser now starting with Caleb Foster going down. They have some injury questions, but gonga shield should be back.

And Duke's defense is the real story, right? I mean, Bouser is incredible. He's going to a national player of the year. He gets you as numbers every single night. He gets easy baskets every single time.

You know, they need a back breaking play. He kind of has it done. But defensively, they have Domay Sarr. He's kind of a point of attack ball pressure guy. That's the first line of defense for them.

With any guard that they deal with, you get by him. You got Malik Brown, who's the ace. See defensive player of the year. It gets a lot of deflections. Hard to make entry passes against him.

You get by Malik Brown. You got a great reimprotector in Gongbone. He's back. So like they have three levels of defense. That's incredible.

Shires been coaching a great, you know, great season all along. ATOs, blah plays, blah plays. Whatever you want to call out, he's been great with this group.

“And I think they're more built to win a title than maybe last year's team.”

Even though last year's team is more talented.

And, you know, Cam Booser is never lost.

If you go back to like, I think the last time that he lost a game like in a championship setting, they said was sixth grade. So this is just kind of what he does. So it's hard to bet against Cam Booser. It's also kind of tough, because I feel like Duke is likable.

Most of the time I hate Duke, I feel like Duke is kind of likable this year. Because the Booser thing definitely. But also, isn't this team this year? There's no new players from like they lost their starting five last year, flag and all those knipple. But now, isn't it just all guys that were on the bench last year, plus freshman?

Yeah, Isaiah Evans, who's been scoring, you know, kind of a juggernaut for them. Been able to make a lot of big threes for them. Last year, he was sort of their six man now. He's their star guard, wing, whatever you want to call him. Been a great year for them.

Gongba has been able to step up in that role. I respect what I respect that they just did go back by for awesome transfers.

It is kind of a more homegrown system.

Unfortunately, that is, I do kind of respect that.

They both always are. So like, they did buy one guy. And then the freshman obviously, they bring in every single year.

“But I think the reason why you can maybe hate them is when they slapped the floor.”

They had all five guys slapped the floor and the ACC tournament game at the top of my mouth is that happened. So like, they say what? Like a synchronized slap. Synchronized slap.

Synchronized slap. Synchronized slap as well. So they had six guys slapped the floor. I'm into that. That's the shit we were doing in high school.

That's incredible. I think the coach doing it is lame. Oh, come on. It was tough. It was tough.

Yeah, they had the little Duke tendencies that they do. That you're like, OK, I see. I see what's going on here. But they are more likeable. Way more likeable than they used to be for sure.

Speaking of hateable Duke players, though, I feel like the most hateable college basketball player in recent memory to me is Grace and Alan. And I wanted to ask you because I have a question for you. So Michigan State is a very Tom is a team.

The sheer Tom is a really is the Mike Tomlin of college basketball. And I wanted to ask you. Jeremy Fierst you and you're the point guard. Who I think is the highest this is straight in the country. Again, Roger Sherman is a great sports newsletter that he's doing.

But Jeremy Fierst Jr.

“Is he the dirtiest player in college basketball since Grace and Alan?”

He's kicks people the nuts. I mean, Brad Davidson could be in that conversation as well from Wisconsin a few years ago. Just kind of did a lot of like the little like, you know, maybe I hit you in the balls that you come across a screen.

Like Jeremy Fierst is his big moment this year. He did like a back kick in the Elliott Kiddos balls, which was a nice moment. He's getting like the hard and dream on the green of guards. And Dream on was very honored by that. He was like, that means he must be really good.

So I left you in front of the game. I don't know if that was a shot or if it was a compliment. I think it depends on if you're a Michigan State fan or not. But yeah, Jeremy Fierst is not afraid to mix things up and do some things to help you win a game that might not be ethical going back to the ethics of it all.

But he's a fun guard to root for if you're a fan of Michigan State. And yeah, he is a, he kind of orchestrates the entire offense. Like Michigan State has nothing going on without Jeremy Fierst. So he is a necessary evil if your time is. Basketball ethics.

Bracket ethics. The, the other, we're speaking of balls. The other one I had to say, I know this guy was on Eucon last year. But I can't believe. Did you know there's a guy on Eucon named Solo Ball?

Not related to Lorenzo or LeBard. He's not even one of the balls. No, he's not. He's not. He's not.

He's not. He's not. Yeah, right. He marches to the beat of Zondrom. That should have been LeMelo's name too.

Like Solo Ball is such a great person from LeMelo. Oh, my God. So LeBard. So LeBard. I can't.

Like so active. Student him. Something that, you know, yeah, they missed out. I know. So that name, it was like dammit.

That should have been us. So. Low. I think I mean, all, all in on Eucon. They're in it, right?

Yes. Yeah, all in on Eucon for this. Those are the people who win the tournament. So Tate does all these brackets. And he's the expert.

And he comes in like the 45th percentile.

And the person who wins is always someone like D. kids.

Like how'd you pick Eucon? It's like, dude. Solo Ball. Solo Ball. They're kidding me.

They like the names. They like the mascots. You know what I mean? Like people are like all the badgers. They're cute.

I'll take the badger to upset the wild cats. And then somehow Wisconsin actually beats Arizona in the sweet 16. And then, you know, the story goes from there. I was going to ask if there was a team outside the top four seeds that you think has a legit shot to win. Who would it be?

“I think the, the highest seed that could win the championship is like a Gonzaga 3 seed.”

I don't think that there's any team that I could see actually going there. And winning the championship. I mean, St. John's would probably be the flavor of the day pick. But I don't really like their draw on San Diego. They play in Northern Iowa team that is sort of built to beat them.

It's a very veteran group. They slow the ball down. They don't turn it over. St. John's really good out in transition. And that's sort of how they get all of their offense concocted.

So that worries me about their first round game Vanderbilt.

I would say it would probably be the best five seed. But Vanderbilt has to play Florida potentially in the sweet 16. And that's a team that they just beat a week ago. I just think that's a really tough matchup. Todd Goldon with the tape from a week ago.

I think that gets them in a nice spot for Florida to be able to handle business. So I really don't think outside of the top four. There's any team. Maybe you could talk yourself in it like a UCLA McCron and Miracle run. But I don't know if I could do that.

But maybe that's one team you could swing for. So getting down to brass tax because you know, you feel like a little bit of a coward when you put all four one seeds in the bracket. So if you're going to say the one seed because I feel like and tell me from long. There's like six teams that are probably like you wouldn't be shocked at all if they won, right?

It's the four one seeds, right? It's Arizona. Then you got Michigan and Duke who were probably the best teams all season, but they had injuries now. And then you have Florida who won last year.

And then there's UConn Institute C to one back to back before. And then Houston made the final four last year. And I feel like unless I'm forgetting one, those are the ones that no one will be surprised, right? And maybe you throw Iowa State in there.

You know, maybe that's seven. There you go. So if you had to switch off, if I'm going to go ahead and be like a hidden coward and put three one seeds in and put it to it.

What is the one seed you should definitely keep in?

Because I'm thinking it's Arizona,

but I don't know what I'm talking about. I have only to do this for half a week. Who's the one seed? Like, is Duke maybe the one you leave out? Because you cons there?

“Like, what is the one seed you have to put in?”

And what's the one seed you would maybe lead out? I like the matchup for Michigan across the board. If you kind of look at their region, they got the best draw. There's no front court.

It really gives Michigan any trouble. The only front court that would would be Virginia. And I don't know if Virginia would end up meeting them in the early day. That would take a lot for Virginia. I think Iowa State could knock them off Tennessee,

could knock them off with their physicality. So just as far as like the matchups for Michigan, I feel really good about where they can get. Maybe Iowa State and the Elite Ape, a Blake Buchan and Shoutout to Quarter Lane,

but I don't think that Blake Buchan is good enough to deal with the DiMara and Morris Johnson Jr. And that front court that they have, and cheddar coming off the bench. So I just think Michigan has the best draw,

as far as getting there. So I feel good about Michigan. I feel really good about Duke. Even though you look on paper, like all the programs and coaches,

like the way that Duke is going to spend this PRYs is like, we got through Rick Petino, Dan Hurley, Tom Iso, and it's like, well, you're not playing all those teams.

But it does sound good, I guess. They'll sell that whole idea. But I don't really see Duke slipping up. So I think they'll be there. Arizona worries me in the sweet 16.

Just because Wisconsin,

“we saw what they did to Michigan earlier in the year.”

They are five out of offense. I love Nick Boyd and Blackwell, that back court for them. And Wisconsin sort of plays up to who they play. If they get there in that matchup,

that could be tough. Eight cuff who bills and love with. Potentially with Calipary. That's a team that might give Arizona some problem. Also, if Arizona had any other team across their chest,

I'd feel better about them just cruising to the final four, but there is a little bit of like, I don't know. They have some sort of curse going on with the Wildcats. The Princeton game broke me.

Whether they're like the new Gonzaga Arizona, because everyone's like, well, they're good,

but they've never done it before.

And I'm like, aren't it? Arizona just seems like huge. I'm like, how many teams have actually three good big men?

I also don't know what I'm talking about. Well, they lost two games this year, right? One in overtime, and then one on the road at Kansas. So I mean,

they've just been dominating everybody across the board. I do love their back court with Bradley and Burries. And I honestly, my, my prediction is that they're going to get Gonzaga in the lead eight,

and that's going to be like a master protege game, right? Mark few versus Tommy Lloyd,

“maybe Mark few has something in his back pocket”

that he knows Tommy Lloyd likes to do, and maybe Gonzaga can shock the world and make it run to the final four there. That would be the three seed that I could see, making something happen.

So Arizona worries me a little bit, and then Florida in the lead eight, if it's one versus two in it is chalk, they have to play Houston in Houston. So I really like Houston to win that game in Houston.

So I would lean towards the coogers to win that over the gator. It's a really bad draw for Florida, like that to play Vanderbiltal team. They just lost two in the sweet 16, and potentially Houston in Houston.

You know, you got to feel bad for the defending champs. In terms of lottery picks outside of Darren Peterson, like we could talk about AJ defense, that BYU,

who else should we be looking like if DK here, is a Seattle supersonic fan. Yeah. You know, he's coming back.

Yeah, we're expanding back to 32 teams. Like if you're thinking about, you know, you have one of the worst teams at the NBA, and you got a top five pick,

like which team should you be watching? Yeah, Arkansas with Acuff, for sure. I mean,

you're getting all types of counts for him. They're talking like Marbury's, Steve Francis, you know, Albert Ciri.

Yeah. They're all kind of companies. They're all kind of companies. They're all kind of companies. They're all kind of companies.

You know, a lot of Kyrie fans are like, there's only one Kyrie, don't you dare. But again,

he's a small guard who can create. He's not scored less than 17 points, since like November. So he's just been a star for them. So that's a guy that you can kind of buy into Buries for Arizona.

He's been incredible. A little bit older, but just a really fun player. Louisville, if they get my Cal Brown junior back.

He's another guy. That should be a lottery pick. That will be a lot of fun to watch. Keaton Wawgler for Illinois. Just like a six foot six scoring.

Passing Savan. He doesn't do well with physicality, but Illinois shouldn't have any trouble until they get to the sweet 16. And play Houston. And then Houston S.

And then he can Kingston Flimings. And those two guys are great. Kingston Flimings is a lot of fun to watch. He came in as a freshman. Sort of took over that back court despite using B in there.

And Kingston Flimings has been kind of locked in as like a five to seven range pick. And he's a lot of fun to watch. A lot of good guards that are coming out in the NBA draft that you can really buy into. And then like a coa Pete as well for Arizona, who's sort of falling under the radar,

he had some injuries as well.

But coa Pete's never lost.

So like if we get an Arizona Duke championship game, I want to know my favorite times of playing college bat players in college basketball. And I only watched the mountain west, which was largely a waste of time this year. So I don't know exactly all the other guys.

I want to know who the drew Timmy is of this year. Like who's the guy that's fucking great. That everyone's like see in Europe, buddy. Yeah. I mean Oscar Kluff or Purdue.

I mentioned him before. He's a guy that like has been playing better. But again, he's all Purdue. So he's kind of gone up the ranks. The Bowser Brothers for Furman.

Now, they have to play UConn in the first round. But Furman's the fit tallest team in the country. They burn the red shirt of the younger Bowser brother. But you know, the big Bowser who's six foot 11. And one the name is incredible.

I feel like he's a big Bowser.

That's his name. Big Bowser. But if they give UConn some trouble, maybe Furman and the Bowser Bros get some love. I mean that would be one I would go for.

Yeah.

I want some like six undersized white guy with incredible footwork.

Who has no. That's Oscar Kluff. Yeah. Yeah. That's Oscar Kluff.

No doubt. The other one I want to tell you. I know you end up doing a bunch of these things.

“And you have to explain a lot of this to the people who don't know anything like us.”

But I want to know just for you. Who's the team other than Duke that you hate or just don't respect the most and most want to lose? Dishonourable team. Yeah.

Dishonourable player coach. Program whatever, who are you most privately reveling in their failure? Well, they didn't make the tournament. So it doesn't. I mean, all of her and would be the pick.

You know, Bruce Pearl and his propaganda machine has been working overtime. And him replaces the DK. Yeah. So yeah. You know, Ronnie James, Danny Kelly.

You remember Ronnie? Yeah. And his dad who got him a job. That is what's happening at the coaching level with Bruce Pearl. He quit right before the season.

They had no hope to hire anybody else. And he was like, why don't you just hire Steven? My son. They do hire Steven. They were supposed to be really good this year.

They ended up losing 16 games. And then they tried to make the argument. They should still be in the tournament. They have the best resume. They were highest on Kim Palm.

Of any of the bubble teams. Now they're playing in the NIT. I do give them credit for that. Actually don't mind all of her. And like, as a program.

But sort of the push from Bruce Pearl is a little bit despicable this year. But if everybody in the tournament, I kind of have a soft spot across the board. Or like, I have a reason to like, you know, most of these teams.

“And I think the funniest outcome is for Kentucky to lose in the first round.”

Just because Cali Perry won the tournament. They ran Cali Perry out of town. If Mark Pope loses that game, they're going to lose their minds. And anytime Kentucky fans are losing their minds, that's like free entertainment for all of us. So I would just go Kentucky.

Just because it's fun. Are we is Arkansas likeable? Like are we pro Cal now? Like what? We're pro Cal.

I mean, I've always kind of been pro Cal.

Like even when he was at Kentucky. It's like, he was the only honest guy. He's like, he's not a good coach. He's an agent that happens to be good enough a coaching to be the worst in-game coach at basketball. And I just feel like he was the only honest broker in a profession of dishonest people.

He was like, I am here to launch the NBA. And we'll see if we can put it inside along the way. And I'm like, yeah. He was the first coach to say, like, look at the billions of dollars I've made in NBA contracts. And the program is like, well, we won't actually give it.

He's like, yeah, that's secondary. He also said he cares about the name on the back of the jersey more than the name on the front of the jersey. Which most programs don't enjoy that either. All five, oh my god. Oh, I'm coming back at a Cal Faraday.

Tate awesome. Thank you. The last thing I want to say is I wanted to just, trying to say, I'm trying this year to say more nice things to people faces. And I said this about you behind your back. But I compared to the other day, your golf game is like Lucas Oberg, the Swedish Terminator who actually just blew the players.

But I wanted to shut out Craig, Craig, me and you played golf when we were in LA last year. And I was, I've never been so humbled on a golf course as when we were having a conversation. And you just stick a T in the ground. I looked the other way and I looked back in five seconds. You were swinging.

You hit 300 yards down the fairway. And then you just continue the conversation. Like nothing. And I've never been. I love Oberg.

He's my guy. Also, I would have definitely choked like Oberg. Like I felt, I play too fast, you know what I mean? So when I saw him hooked two balls in the water, I'm like, that's me. You play it right away.

Like you're the best kind of scratch call for the play with because you don't make it about how good you are at golf. Like you almost don't even realize how you finished you. Yeah, I tried to 78. I'm like, I wouldn't even have known that because we were all just hanging out. Take it.

Take takes zero time over the ball. He just gets up there and swing away. I can't wait. It's perfect. The new baseball rules.

I would have problems in high school just with dealing with guys that take forever. Like that are reading pots for 10 minutes.

Like I would just, my mom would always get mad at me if she followed me around.

She's like, you can't roll your eyes as guys are doing this. And I'm like, I can't, I don't have a poker face, you know? So I'm like, this is disgusting. I also shout to Craig Craig made a eagle on the first hole that we played. Yes.

That was great. And the first hole? Yeah, drove the green and made an eagle. And then I was like, wait a second. It's Craig out here just doing a dark horse thing.

Where he's like, I don't really play that much. So yeah, well it's my first time on out. It's great start though. That's all it matters. Yeah.

We need Joe house to play some golf with us. That's my apparently he's not allowed to play golf and he comes out to LA. He's got to do all the bill podcast. So let him.

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Can't you feel this feeling in a school?

So the full terms of the deal.

Game, which really the Broncos should have lost, Pat Bryant got the first thr...

That's like the salary cap of a lot of teams.

I'm curious, that 11th pick,

Yeah, sure.

Is kind of interesting.

Kobe Bryant go, I think that was clear enough.

About how miserable it is to be like a warrior's fan, for instance, even thou...

I do think that, I don't know, it is kind of a leap to be like, "Could Kyler

That's my wife now.

Part of me is just like.

We're going to make a video about our company.

There are two different worlds.

Dolphins are 30 to one with AFCs.

It's all this stuff.

That you, you, you, you see your rights to the movie by giving us these email...

Then the Dutch cab driver drops me back at my hostel about 8 AM.

I've never stood a work.

I think the people in the room were bigger sinners fans.

This is neck.

Uh, Nora, which is neon.

Vote for the nurse throughout the first pitch of the mayor's game.

You also get like the coaches from those levels that get pulled up to the hig...

Whenever he felt the cramps again, he was worried about having full body cramps.

It is kind of a more homegrown system.

What is the one seed you should definitely keep in?

I feel like he's a big Bowser.

We're gonna steal it from Bill's house.

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