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Combine Check-in: Rueben Bain's T. Rex Arms, Our Top 5 WRs, and NFLPA Report Card Leaks

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The guys are live in Indianapolis breaking down combine chaos, from arm-length discourse to big-board debates to a wild QB trade market headlined by Anthony Richardson rumors. They also dig into draft...

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Welcome to the Reerfinity Football Show. My name is Danny Hartford and I'm joined by Danny Kelly Crackroll, but in person in Indianapolis at the Commonwealth. We have Ruben Baines, arm length measured, or do we? We don't know who finds out.

We are going to go over DKS' Bigboard updated to top 50 players, NFLDraft.Thereer.com. Craig, our insider here, Craig is going to go over his top receivers, but we're going to cover the story that really matters as well, which is the Steelers coming in last in the NFLPA survey,

and not having enough players or places for their players to go to the bathroom. So we're going to hit all that. Some people keep the hard hitting news for you. But we do the work. We do, yes.

All right, what should we do first?

Let's start with a trade. I mean, it was a small, a small, a trade. Because what you think of this, if this changes, DKU or opinion on what these teams will do in the draft, the Titans traded defensive tackle to Vandre's sweat to the jets,

and the jets send to edgerusher Germain Johnson to the Titans. Is this a classic defensive philosophy, solid? Yeah. To Vandre's sweat, did make sense for him,

sent him away for a guy that does make sense for him.

β€œYeah, so I think that's what it was, especially for Johnson,”

who, you know, reunites with Robert Sala in Tennessee. He is coming off. So he ruptured his Achilles tendon week two of 2020-24 season. This is a former first round pick by the way. Yeah.

I don't think things have gone exactly how he expected it to. That injury was huge part of that. But get him a chance to, you know, he wanted to get out apparently. The report is, yeah,

Germain Johnson wanted to get out from the jets, which don't blame him. The fucking club. Yeah. He follows like, well, go to the party pile.

Get in line. But yeah, and I think Tvundre's sweat is interesting,

because I have always kind of liked him.

I think he's huge, huge man, massive man. Big guy. I think he was maybe my favorite comp of all time for my draft guy. I compared him to the ever-given. You remember it?

The ship that got stuck in his suit was not on my favorite suit. The little, like, disrupted world trade for, like, a month or something. The fun. I got the most of the powers.

Yeah. He's a teamweight turn. So, anyways, that's that guy. I'm glad we get to talk about him. Very name too.

Yeah, Tvundre's sweat. Oh, yeah, Tvundre's sweat. Yeah. So, I don't know.

β€œHe's, he's right now kind of a two-down guy,”

run stuff, run stuff or type of player, but there is, I mean, he's a really good athlete for his side. So, maybe there's some upside there. A change of scenery could be good for him.

But, they both teams, like, still need everything, basically.

I was like, not the rosers. Like, I don't think this really changes much in the draft. It was just simply player fit. Johnson wanted to get out of New York, and I wouldn't read a lot into this in terms of, like,

what that means for the draft. I agree. This is what happens. Coaches go somewhere and then they want players that they had and other, that places where the coach that they liked.

And Robert Sawal was the coach of the Jackson, he liked your main Johnson and he wanted your main Johnson. And so, and it's just what probably didn't fit the Titans with what Robert Sawal wants to do as much. And he just said it as press conference this week,

that it would be hard for him to fit in and he'll try. But, I totally agree with DK. I mean, it's interesting when the team with the number two pick in the drafts swaps with the number four pick in the drafts. So, I got distracted by whatever you are.

He just said to text well on the fucking spot. I was like, no way. And I opened the text. I'm like, what have you got traded? Officials 504, 40 for Caleb Bakes.

And I said, no way. I just told no way. I was like, it was a fucking joke response. And thanks off. So, the way it's trying.

Craig texted and then looked at me. I was supposed to react to it. I also didn't know what to add or respond to that. Sorry about that. No way.

Well, let me ask you how you respond to this. Anthony Richardson has requested a trade. Or it sounds like the team is open to trading him. They've come to an agreement that his time is over in Indianapolis. Here in Indianapolis.

And he'll be seeking a trade elsewhere. I feel like I have the reports.

β€œAre there actual official reports out there that Minnesota is interested in him?”

Because there was that that video from a couple years back with Kevin O'Connell and coach of the Vikings. Meeting with Anthony Richardson after a game. And he's in his ear and he's mic'd up hugging him. Hugging him. And you can hear him say like, you're going to be in this league for a long time.

You got a ton of talent. Like keep your head up. You have what it takes. He's like a guy still believing you totally. Yeah.

I mean, I would love to. First of all, Anthony Richardson when he's playing well is one of the most fun to come back to watching the NFL. I want him to be good so bad. Right.

He had one of the greatest throws we've ever seen. We won of the twenty twenty four season. He threw like a six year bomb. I think it was to outpours. Yeah.

He's feet were on the logo and he threw it. He slipped step back and it was a six year dart. Yeah. To outpours. And it was the best throw.

I probably saw the entire season. And like that was like the first quarter of a game. And by the second quarter. I was like, oh, this guy stinks. But man, that first quarter.

Sure.

Amazing.

Microcosm for his career thus far. I would love to see what Kevin O'Connell can do with him. Because he can kind of do no wrong with the quarterback position. I guess.

But the problem is is, well, Jason McCarthy understand.

But like, you know, what do I do in the past? Yeah. Other than the last quarter back. You drafted. They've been hurt.

What can you do? The Richardson hasn't been hurt. Oh, wait. No. He can see now.

He can see now. His eyes. His orbital. But then he had a vision problem. Now they're like, don't worry.

He can see the report is yes. So is Minnesota going to trade for Anthony Richardson. And then have JJ McCarthy and Anthony Richardson. And then go have to find a third quarterback that could actually start the game. I'm dubious of this because I did.

β€œWho is the last time in NFL team was trying to develop two first round picks at the same time?”

Two reclamation projects. Well, having a third guy started like the Panthers had Sam Darnal and Baker Mayfield. Who were both top three picks in the same draft. But Darnal was playing. And Baker was there.

Can you really have Kirk does his starting. And while you're developing JJ McCarthy and Anthony Richardson. That's not an practice time. One thing that does come to mind my mind. And I'm trying to remember the timeline on this.

But I do believe at one point the 49ers had trade lands. Sam Darnal. Maybe that was not when Darnal was there. And Brock Perty. This might have been before Darnal.

No, there's trade lands like broke his leg. And there's recovered from an injury.

And like it was like he'd never bleed football.

And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what this means. But there is already buzz at the combine here. Just like talking to people walking around the hallways here that like the Vikings like him and want him. And that's like a real thing.

But I do think there's a strong chance this happens. I know I've been saying this for two years. But I really. The person who is most going to be like, I'm going to. By the dip is fucking how he roseman.

And the Eagles. I'm telling you like how he roseman is price checking Anthony Richardson. I just think that he makes so much sense to just sit on that team.

β€œDo you think if do you think it'll happen this week?”

Because the reason that this came out right now is because they're probably wanting to talk to everybody. Uh, and get a handshake deal in place at least because everybody's in the same spot. This is why this trade happened with Tvantris Wet. It's like, these are where the deals happen in Indianapolis. I think I'd be surprised if Richardson got traded before like Kyther Murray gets traded.

I feel like I feel like it happened in a couple weeks. We'll say maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Minnesota's your favorite landing spot I assume. Are there any on the other?

Are there any options that you can think of otherwise? I mean, I wanted to go somewhere where I trust that the coaching staff can actually develop him and do something right with him. I don't want to team to take a shot on him where I feel like even if he has a clear path to start. I don't have faith in their development program.

So not the jets. No. But we're what Cleveland. No. Um, I wanted to go somewhere cool with a coach that has a history of developing good quarterbacks.

Send them to the Falcon Niners. I don't care. What about? Stephanski in the Falcons. Um, yes.

This is fan fiction now. I know.

β€œThat's what this is the only thing we do here.”

That's all we do here. Do you think he has the highest upside of any quarterback that is not currently a starter in the NFL? Is Kyler a starter? Yeah. He's caught up in.

Is Malik Willis a starter? No. Um. Yeah. I would say you can you can involve him.

I kind of think I would probably put Willis just slightly above because before we've actually seen him. He's a higher upside. Upside maybe not. Yeah. But higher degree of confidence that he's what he's doing could be replicated.

Hi, Vince. You were early on the you think Donald has a shot camp. But obviously he's a completely different quarterback than Anthony Richardson. Does any part what percentage do you think? If he's in your big nurture versus nature guy and that if Anthony Richardson is in the right situation, it could work.

What percentage of you? 23.6% nice. School Bill Simmons are there. I think it's unlikely, but it's not impossible. I think that.

I mean, we just be honest, one of the reasons are giving up on him is that I think that there wasn't the demonstrated commitment to being a professional. Sure. That I think they wanted and you know, it's you didn't come up with like other quarterbacks where you know, going to the camps when you're 14 and 15 and like learning going to Trent Hill for his elite whatever camp at 15 and. There's an advantage to that that when you get to the NFL and being like, oh, like throwing with receivers after practice all these little things like studying all these things and like all this time of being a pro.

It's like it was like 21 when he came in, it was really young and so I think that that has to be established first.

But the NFL's better when Anthony Richardson plays, so I want him to be successful starters. I kind of keep joking, but I'm like, I think the Eagles make sense because he isn't not to play soon and I think he needs to sit. Well, and the thing that the Eagles have that Minnesota does not is that there's a quarterback ahead of him in Filly that you can model yourself after like Jalen Hertz say what you will. Like that's great work ethic and if he goes to JJ McCarthy, who's just like way more junior and barely barely played, he needs to be on a team with somebody who has a better in court.

I, in a weird way, Anthony Richardson learning Jalen Hertz's work ethic and things exactly what he needs just sit there and watch this man go that his business and then frankly. I think we're talented in the Jalen Hertz, but Jalen Hertz is the hard work beats talent and talent doesn't work.

Yeah, I'm not saying Anthony Richardson doesn't work hard, but I'm just sayin...

Yeah, that's harder.

Speaking of that, the other team that I've heard in this discussion about Anthony Richardson is the Rams.

Like Jared God wasn't good at it. He's like, I need, I need better arm talent. I need, I need a more accurate quarterback like Anthony Richardson can't throw the ball to. I don't think Anthony Richardson's going to be started quarterback in the NFL next year and I don't know if he will be better. I just feel like if he goes to the Rams, the Rams are just become a completely different offense and I feel like stick or McVey appreciates a quarterback who can be a genius and be an extension of McVey's brain.

Right, and and like throw it to their talented Weber receivers. Anthony Richardson, that's not I feel like the game plane you're kind of going on. Following up on the last conversation we had on the last episode to your point about like, oh, see him to Arnold was bad and then he got benched and then he won the soup ball and came back who's the next Donald whatever. Yeah, I don't think it's who's the next Donald who's the next. But if you're asking questions the next top five reclamation project quarterback that in the next scene could do better.

It is Kylo Murray like what we were saying a Kylo Murray milk little since like. Yeah, no one thinks about Arizona, but like Kylo Murray to me is like for a fourth round pick or a third round pick and you just pay him a big the take on that big ugly contract. The odds of Kylo Murray's exceeding at his next stop are 10 times more than Anthony Richardson in the next few years. Yeah, for sure. What? That's just remembering yesterday like it's Kylo Murray what the fuck we talked about.

Basically we're like, who was the better chance of being good in Kylo Murray or Malik Willis. I'm like, all right. But hence why I'm staying on a third one here. Hater.

β€œBut that's why I'm curious if Richard's from Malik Willis.”

Yeah, sorry. But I feel like he has to get to the last in the order. Like if the Kylo gets dealt with and then like Willis signs and then it's like, all right. Yeah. Malik Willis was really good when he played. He was like borderline perfect in the game.

Right. Play three of them. I know. The lot Richardson. Richardson's what 21 games since seven years or whatever.

But I don't know. I don't feel confident about Kylo. I think there's a terrible quarterback for agency market.

Like none of these always are inspiring at all.

Free as you quarterback for teams that saw a quarterback every day for five years and we're like, we're good. It's still wild to me that the CX just signed a Sam Darnl last year. And no one else even wanted crazy. I'm one of the best freeing signings in any sport ever, probably. Yeah, and I mean, I look.

I was dubious about it a little bit. But it worked out. You think so? Jerry's out. Yeah.

You got to wait two or three years to check in in class. Going back to the tightness jet trade for one second. I do think I agree with what you're saying because it's weird that the team with the second pick traded with the fourth pick. I don't think it affects anything and they're both going to take the same positions anyway. Because the first pick is obviously going to be Fernando Mendoza to the Raiders.

Second pick. I still think it's our Valreys to the Jets release some kind of defensive end, but maybe.

β€œHonestly, I just think they're like, no one's going to make fun of the Jets if they take our Valreys.”

And I think Brick Johnson, the, what he Johnson's kid is going to be like break our Valreys, brick. And I just think they're going to take them. And then the cardinals, I think take like an offensive line in at three, probably freeances. Mary Goa. And then um.

The Titans are at four and they're still needed. They still need to pass pressure. I know they just traded for German Johnson, but they hadn't done. And they need like six for Robert's all. So like I think this is to get one guy and then they drafted another edge pressure.

And then they have a starting defense. So I actually think even though the Titans just acquired a pass pressure. They're still going to take a pass pressure fourth. And I think the Giants are actually the hardest team to figure out. Like that to me is when it starts being like,

"Who do you want? Who do you want?" You want Caleb Downs. I want Caleb Downs. I kind of don't think they're going to take them. Slowly because John Harba had some, I could find it.

Some effusive quote about Caleb Downs. And I'm like, he would, he's too sharp and political to be singing the praises. I mean, I just got there though. You think after the Kyle Hamilton thing, they'd be like, this is kind of great. Having an awesome safety.

I thought so too. But Harba was saying, I hear I could find it. But he just, let me find the quote because I just read this.

And I'm like, he would never say this.

Oh, yeah, I said, John Harba, taking Caleb Downs fifth overall would be just fine with me. He said, we favor Hallfame safety. So if we have a chance to draft a potential future Hallfame safety and Caleb Downs, that would be just fine with me. That's just not something John Harba or I would have said in the last like 17 years

about a player the Ravens actually wanted. I just get strange to, you know, you see that a lot with people with the first pick. Or the second pick, but I don't know. You know, you know, who they're in a new defensive coordinator is. Demar Wilson.

But we'll opposition to the play. Safety. Also, I feel like it feels like likely that any of the first four teams will take Caleb Downs. I guess that's true. Maybe they're confident they'll follow them.

I will say the other, it's that or I actually kind of think the funniest scenario would be the Giants taking Jeremiah Love. It's like what we're going to call it. Everyone's like giving them a receiver. I'm like the Giants are probably like we need to run a game.

And if you funny, John Harba was like, I want to running back. We're going to share my love and it would be sick. And then it would be like not so sick. But anyway, that's kind of. We'll say, we're just taking a fucking tackle.

β€œYeah, do you have a favorite tackle right now that out of all this group?”

You just want to find, I think. I think he's bigger and he's going to go to the Cardinals. And I just think that he's like a run blocker. And like Michael, a little baby lifler is going to need that. And it's just such an easy like right tackle.

You have a left tackle.

There's Johnson Jr.

The Cardinals just take a right tackle. You're saying Mario. Yeah. Yeah. I just bigger.

He's like a more established run block. He's got the side Spencer Fondo.

β€œI think it's a little baby hands for a tackle.”

And they're going to be like, I get to take him third. And they just think the giants will be able to get Spencer Fondo at it. You don't. Can't go wrong. Take it a tackle.

I would never be upset with the tackle.

Right. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong. But you can.

You can respect the decision. The giants will look at Evan Neil over Kyle Hamilton. No, I know. In the moment. Were you upset?

No, but it was wrong. Yeah. But you're saying you're not going to be upset. You can be upset in the moment if they take a running back. Yeah.

Yeah. But the irony is, that's the wrong thing. It's the wrong thing. The process over results. Yes.

Yeah. Sometimes the results of a process is got to cool. Like, if you take Carnal Tate, you're going to be pissed. Yeah. Because here's why.

Everyone gave. I just didn't like.

β€œThe idea that the giants will take a receiver fifth, which I think was like a consensus”

opinion for like a month.

There's never been a number two receiver taken on a team with the top five pick in the NFL.

Like the idea that Carnal Tate would be drafted above milk neighbors. And then play behind him. Like the team doesn't need to spend a top 10 pick on a receiver. No. And it's like he's Jamar Chase.

You know what? Easy. It is to find a great receiver in the second teams. Who's probably the best number to receive the NFL was the 33rd pick in the draft. Yeah.

Like you can find. So I would rather get your beat potatoes or whatever. Or just a special player killed down. Anyway. Speaking of which, though, I want to start by the measurements.

Yeah. Today's day. We got some measurements for a lot of guys. The one on everyone's mind. Rubin Bane.

Yeah. T-Rex Rubin. But we talked about this on Friday and then put it up on Monday's show kind of nailed it. I actually was too generous. I said that Rubin Bane had a chance at 31 inch charms which would put him in the second percentile.

I was wrong. He is 30 inch and then seven eighths of an oct-- Just under 31 inches.

So he's in the first percentile of players which is confusing.

So what was he expected to come in around 31 inches? Yes. I basically did. Yeah. Which is I think a bigger discussion of like how we react to the combine.

Well, they don't double count it. So it's like, for instance, Jeremiah Love is going to run this week. And he's probably going to run super fast. And then everyone's going to fucking shit their pants. Like, did you not watch him all the time?

Did you not know he was fast? Yeah. Like, what are we talking about? He broke the thing. You're like, well, yeah.

What are we talking about? So like, yeah. He's in the 31st percentile. Maybe some people were holding out hope. His arms would be like 34 inches or something.

I don't know what it was. But the point is we all knew this was coming. It's now confirmed that he has short arms. And people are acting like it's this huge deal, which it might be. But it's not a new piece of information.

Right. He is a big outlier. Physicized. Right. In this regard.

Yes. Usually with those guys, you usually get a little bit of a discount in the draft. But with him, I feel like you're not really getting one. So he's going to go on top. You can talk 10 or 15?

No. If he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, if he had three inches, he would probably go higher. But like you think you'll go in like the top 10, 15-ish probably in the first round? I would probably bet, like if the over under was 15.

That would be where I probably said like over there. Because I think there are going to be some teams that just don't have them on their board or push them way down because the lack of length. Like the hinge settings, it's six feet tall and then you have. Because they have these established parameters and benchmarks that they want their players to meet, especially in the top 15 picks. When do you think he becomes a value?

And there's enough of a discount to take a chance on this outlier where you're like, "That's worth it." I mean, the eighth pick, or you like, that's a little early for me, but when does it start to become like, "Yeah, yeah." I mean, right around there, honestly, I've got a hit or something. Like fifth or something. So, commanders at seven, they have no talent in this.

But that's not even, that's not really a discount. You're just taking this guy at seven. Well, he's the third edge restaurant in the draft. That's what I think is your right. Arvel reached to the Jets.

And I think the Titans are going to take David Bailey from Texas Tech. So it's more like, he'd be the third password to take him. But when you're talking about hindsight is 2020, like three years from now, are we going to look back and be like, "Oh man, this guy who's in the first percentile of arm length, taking him to seventh overall, that's bad process."

Yeah. I trust this wise it might be. You don't want to go outliers, but also he, someone posted, I forget. I'm sorry, I don't know who said this. Someone took a picture of Ruben Bane.

And they were like, "This guy didn't even get a haircut for the combine."

β€œDo you know how locked in you have to be to be a player as a ball?”

Yeah. He does a fucking hair cut for the NFL combine. He's like, "This guy is obsessed with football." Do you schedule your hair cuts around major moments in your, in your year? Sometimes.

I think the first time I ever did that in my life was actually my brother's wedding, where was like, "Oh, I guess I actually have to do this now." Like, before going to the Super Bowl, would you be like, "I'm going to get a haircut before?" Yeah, probably. If we have a live show, I think I need to.

I've a lot to say about this. No, he can't say that. Why do you, okay? Yeah, you guys want to keep talking about hair cuts? I miss hair.

I miss getting hair cuts. You have hats that you consider more formal. Not really. I need to get, one of those flat caps. So it's like a little dressier.

You know, like, you want to wear a garland? Yeah, yeah. That one has like a bar's name on the side of the front. Or it says something like Bailey's whiskey or something on the side of my, that's not. Oh yeah, right.

You can coffee or something. Yeah. I'm like, that's not super fancy.

You can rock the flat cap.

Should I, should I do that? I think, okay. I mean, when's your birthday? October.

β€œI think you should come out into a live show that has to,”

you put the beer in with the tube. Oh, I actually, I'm into that idea. We should, okay. We should, we're not recording in this week. All right, we'll figure it out.

Let's go. What were we talking about though? Oh, yes. Rubin, bang. Oh, I do think so.

This reminds me a little bit. A different position. But it reminds me of last year with Will Campbell. Obviously, we talked about him a lot. But Mason Graham also did not have super long arm.

He's like, his length was not a big advantage for him or whatever. And it was kind of a concern. The way how high he went in the draft. I think some people were kind of worried about that. And so, yes, I think what your, your question is like,

if you look back on this, the obvious answer is going to be that was bad process. Any, any, and Rubin bang ends up being not very good. Because it's your philosophy, generally, avoid outliers this early in the draft. Yeah.

But also, because if you're wrong, you look dumb. Of course. Cash is how old Texas A&M has for a pass washer. He's 30 in charge, 30 in a quarter inch, which is the zero. He's a massive shortest measured arm length among edge defenders since 1990.

And so generally, like, this is considered somewhat of a weaker class. So when you look at Rubin bang with his arm length,

β€œhow much of an outlier he is, is he good enough for you to take a risk on something like that?”

So you like, where is he on, on the larger scale of outliers that you're willing to throw a dart at? Like, where does he rank? He would rank pretty high on my willingness to throw a dart. Really? Yeah, because production is out of the world.

He jumps off the screen when you watch. Yeah, 100%. Every game is about hand. And that's the thing. It's like to answer your question. If the Titans and Robert Solov wanted to take him at fourth in the draft over David Bailey and Texas Tech,

I have no problem with that. He's he's a monster. And I think, and we talked about this later with mentioned and taught as well. But it's easier for defenders. I think to overcome this than offensive tackles.

It's probably just like, yeah. There's more ways that you can mitigate that disadvantage or everyone called because he's so... He's explosive.

He's really, really powerful.

He plays really hard. He plays like every snap, right? Yeah. He's really good against Ron. He's really good against, you know, as a past rusher.

There's some people that think he can move inside. Like, he has that potential versatility to play inside too. I think he could give guards a lot of trouble in, you know, obvious passing situations where they kind of move him all over the front of the formation. As a more casual college football fan,

I feel like it's much more rare when a defensive player just jumps off the screen. And every time I watched Miami, you immediately stood out. It was hard not to notice him. He's everywhere.

β€œI think I think Ruben Main's going to be awesome.”

And I... So, if it's hypothetical again, sorry. I know we keep being at up the Giants. If Bailey and Ruben Main are there for you for the Giants. Do you, who do you like more?

If David Bailey and Ruben Main were there? Well, I actually have not thought about that for the Giants purposes. It's because different style. So Bailey is more at it. Bailey, I think he measured out a 6364,

which he wanted to do something like that. So he's like more your standard size for an edge defender. I gotta tell you, Ruben Main had to kick in and be like a... It's funny because the thing we don't talk about is there's also like a move to guard it on the defensive line.

You're like, "Oh, it's kind of like freaking, you know, five-tech or three-tech or whatever. You love it in the theory. You love interior defenders. They set the tone."

I kind of think Ruben Main would kind of work with the Giants at a weird way. It's binding him up next to Dexter Lawrence. Because there's also people like, "Well, you're the players there." Because best player available is alive, by the way.

We always say best player available.

It doesn't exist because if we don't actually... It doesn't actually happen as much as you think, but I just get a good player first. I think Ruben Main's going to be awesome. You know what?

Always his fathered me is the terminology of saying, like the first percentile versus the 99th percentile. That doesn't make sense in my brain because... So if you're at 99th percentile athlete, you're a freak because it's a positive thing.

However, so if you're in the first percentile, that's bad. Ruben Main is in the first percentile of arm length, bad. Yet if you're very rich, you're in the one percent, meaning you're in the one percent most wealthy people in the world.

Good. Yeah. It's confusing. One percent versus the first percentile. Yes.

That's dumb to me. Why don't we even call it laughing? To me it would make sense to be like, if somebody was a freak athlete, I'm like, they're on the top one percent.

You're right. We should just say you see what you want in the top one percent. Yeah. They're in the top two percent, top three percent. So down with percentile.

But that's... Well, somebody says they're at 93th percentile athlete. That doesn't register. I don't know what that means. But if somebody says, oh, you're in the one...

You're in the one that's better than 93th percentile people. I see that. That doesn't count. 93 sounds cooler than you're in the 7th percentile. You're in the top 7 percentile.

You don't know why it's because 7 percent's bad.

If I'm just like, oh, do you want, like, you know, can I have 90 percent of your fucking water? Whatever. But does it the financial comparison make sense to you? Yeah.

You're in the top... You're in the 3 percent. Like, to me, that's like, oh, wow. So that's what's confused you. What?

It's just the 1 percent thing.

Of course. Totally.

β€œBut I think that model makes more sense on my brain than that.”

I mean, math is hard. Math is dumb. Caches house in the zero percent. Zero. That's insane.

Zero it. Just say he's dead last. So he's fucking last.

100 percent of people are better than him.

Yeah. And this isn't what I'm talking about. You say he's in the one that you thought, 100 percent? Yeah. Yeah.

Who sentiles are weird? So being obviously is the big one. That didn't land us hard. I thought I would convince one of you. That's the replacement.

Someone out there's what the nerds lose is that we have to get caught. There's like saying this stuff. And I'm like, I did even track you on the, I don't even know what 93 percentile means. I don't know if someone's like, he's in the 80 second percentile.

I'm like, so that is a good or bad. I know what you're saying. No, because if you just casually were talking to your mom. You're like, "Yeah, this guy's arms are in the first percentile." She's like, "Oh, wow.

They must be really long." Exactly. You're saying first. That means good. Can I give you my rant?

Sure. The arm link thing. This is sometimes when I actually have a beef with the NFL or something or like, "Why do you do it this way?" And then you like, if you ever talk to people in the league or teams or whatever,

the answer is usually, "Yeah, we thought of that.

You're not that smart." Like there's a reason. Do you know what the thing is that I don't think that they actually just do it wrong? Is our length the way they measure it? The way they measure it.

We do this later. With Todd and Mech, they literally measure the arm link for like for a receiver.

β€œIf you want to measure how long, because a quarterback or a receiver,”

a quarterback can tip a pass to the tip of his fingers. So they go from your shoulder to your tip of your middle finger, which makes sense. But it's the same process for Ruben Dane where they do it with the tip of his middle finger or an offensive tackle. But think about it. Do I block you with the tip of my middle finger?

No. I block you at the hinge of my wrist. Yeah. And they literally, so in theory, which I'm sure we can find an example of this. The hand size distorts arm link.

Yeah. So there's a theory where Ruben Dane had the little baby hands from it. So he's sending Philadelphia, like little tiny hands. The hinge of his wrist could be further out than a player. He could have really long fingers.

He could have, but a player with big hands is a thing. He could have completely changes your arm link. But think about how many players you talked about. He had like really, really, really short fingers. And that took him from like the 90th percent out to first.

It doesn't matter. Now think about what we should talk about this with tackles. And they're like, oh my god, 32.5. It's not even 32.6, eight or whatever. And it cares so much about the 10th of an inch.

The percentiles too are, it's not that big of a difference from 90th to first, or whatever. In terms of like, if we're actually talking about a couple of inches, it's like not that much.

Here's what bothers me about this.

All right. People probably listen to their minds. I know. People probably listen to their minds. But the thing is, I can't tell you how much teams and scouts.

And they care about this. Hopefully it's like the hinge thing of the, it just gives them the egg. And that coach is like, nope. I got told 30 years ago that I'm not supposed to take anyone else. Some teams care.

Some teams don't care as much. I think. I can't believe they don't fucking measure to your, I don't know, whatever.

β€œYou should stand up against a wall, back up against a flat wall.”

And yes. And they don't. But that it's just standardization. I think it's the main thing. But they could standardize it per position.

That would make sense. But the huge thing. I understand you have to capture the historical data. So just start adding more data, start like collecting. It could be an additional measurement.

Yes. You can still do the old school and the hinge. Yeah. But they care much enough to do this. Yeah.

I agree. Anyway, it's just, I feel like I'm going to fucking crazy. I'm going to go talk to some people. I know I'm right about this. It's fucking insane that we tied the Will Campbell discourse.

And we're sitting here. We, even hands for quarterbacks. Can he pick a tanzer? Nine inches from his thumb to his pinky. What about from his other thing?

He was middle finger. Like that's also how you fucking hold the football. I'm of the palm of the top of the middle. That doesn't make any sense either. We learned what to say and mentioned that I have big hands, but I have no stretch.

From bottom to top, they're big. Left to right. I got no stretch. Dude, the way the measures. Your hands are like a rectangle in the wrong way.

What are you? You wrote to me. We did hand turkey. We need to do a hand turkey. Yeah.

I want to see it. Overalls like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

A surface area. Yeah. I like that. We should. I was going to say something else.

The turkey. Hold on. Before we move on from hand size. Okay. There's something very important here.

First of all, cash is how actually shorter are that. He's a edge rusher from Texas A&M. He's very explosive. I like him a lot. Right name.

As long as we're talking about Ruben Bane, cash is how actually has shorter arms than Ruben Bane. Zero. So that could affect his draft stock. But the other one I wanted to bring up is I need. I might need to change one of my hundredth percentile.

No. He's the zeroth percentile. So go from 99 to zero. No. What are you?

No. Zero. Zero. Zero. Zeroth percentile.

He's dead last. Okay. Hundred percentile would be like yes. The lowest. Right.

Yeah. You victim women y'all is one hundredth percentile. Right. Anyways. I might need it.

Fused. I'm sorry. I'm so mad at the fucking Manifel. Do you know the fucking there's these people? Yes.

He gets very worked up. This is the dumbest thing.

I don't have oxygen in him sometimes.

You can feel his voice streaming.

So Peter Woods, the defense attacker from Clemson. I couldn't possibly do this work. Do you know how they list height in the NFL? His height is 6024. Mm-hmm.

Do you explain what that means? 6024. Six foot two and four eighths. Four eighths of an inch. Yeah.

Yeah. So he's six two and a half. And they write that as 6024. What the fuck is with these people? It's just precision.

No. That does suck. That's so. It's zero two four. Tradition really.

That's like that. It should be like six whatever. A posture feet two. The quote and then it's like, and then. And four eighths.

I feel like you want four eighths? Half. Well, you like it was easier to enter this into a spreadsheet. So they're like, we're just going to do that. Yeah, it's definitely just short half of it.

It's quick. Yes, it's quick. I'm just saying these are the same people who are like writing. It's like when you're writing a check and you write the number.

β€œAnd then you have to fucking spell it out.”

Oh, my God. That's right. I'm just saying the care about the eighth of an inch. But in the fucking hand anyway, I'll stop talking. Can I talk?

Talk about what I was going to say.

So for the first time, I was short short arms.

Yeah, I wanted to mention them, but for the first time, I might be taking one of my comps and changing it to a different player. So Peter Woods comes in nothing gets him. But he also has very short arms. Okay.

And I want to change my shy wholeude. Desert Sandworm from Iraqis. The dude movies. I want to change it to Caleb Banks from Florida. Because this man is he's built.

So there's like a shy-loved belt. He's a shy-loved belt. Caleb Banks is the biggest man in this draft. Wow. Six foot six.

Three hundred and twenty seven pounds. And here we're going to get into percentiles. Six foot six. Six foot six. So these are in percentiles.

Six two. Right. Right. So he's over six. Six.

Six and a quarter. Yeah. Six foot six and two. Crazy. So he's from Florida.

These are the percentiles for his height weight and from four defensive tackles. Six foot six. Ninety eight percentile. Three hundred and twenty seven pounds. eighty nine percentile.

Ten and seven eighth inch hands. Which is ninety fourth percentile. So just ninety eighth and eighty nine ninety fourth is. I have thirty five inch arms. Thirty ninety fourth percentile.

eighty five and three quarter inch wing. Which is a hundredth percentile. Biggest of any defensive tackle since nineteen ninety nine. So it's like he goes in for a bare hug. Technically if we were getting really deep into these comps.

Shai Haloud doesn't have arms. So the length probably doesn't matter. That's just ours. Right. So maybe I shouldn't change this.

But I just want to give the Shai Haloud comp. It's just like the biggest fastest craziest athlete in the draft. And that might be Kale Banks.

β€œDo you guys know who has the largest hands in NFL history?”

Troy Akban. Are we talking about Richardson's up there, isn't he? He's not on this list. Do your wives ever notice how big an NFL quarterback's hands are the announcers? Yeah.

It's like. Lizzie. Watching football. It's like it's like the female version of like I'm up here. Yeah.

Look me in the eyes. Big meaty balls. Close. The largest hands. Moiley Cox.

Oh. Time with the first largest man in the world. Yeah. Do you know how big? 11 and 1/2.

11.75. What's your bigger than Kauai Leonard's? What's your 11.25? 11 and a quarter Kauai.

I always love Moiley Cox.

He was a basketball player. Do you see you? Yeah. Anyway. What's your other measurements that jumped out to you?

Today. Anything. Peak your interest? Well, we haven't seen a ton yet.

β€œI think Kale Banks was kind of like the busiest one from today.”

He jumped 32 inches at. That's six. Three hundred and twenty seven pounds with an 85 inch or sorry, almost 86 inch wingspan. He jumped 32 inches in the vertical which is 80 first percentile. That's just among defensive tackles.

That's not for for guys. His weight. And then a nine six broad jump was just 96 percent. Oh, this guy has huge. I mean, he's huge.

He looked in in terms of like his body composition. He was. He looked more like a power forward than I was expecting. I was kind of expecting like a big. He's a little leaner right exactly.

So there's a lot of excitement around this. I think he's going to go. Well, he had to turn on a Florida. He's a complicated one because he was injured for most of this last season. Twenty twenty five.

He had it foot injury. But these numbers, I think, are going to put that the concerns over that injury. Maybe a little bit behind him. Austin just texted us. Kale Banks is for is the same for as Brani James.

Wow. That's for that. That's for underdog. That's for underdog. That's hilarious.

That underdog. That is unbelievable. I mean, it's just it's crazy. The athleticism. It does jump off on.

Brani weighs two ten. Kale Banks is three twenty seven. He's running six feet tall. That's fucking crazy. Brani's six one.

Maybe six four.

No. No. He's definitely like six foot six one. Six two, which is also probably a lot. Wow.

So anyway, he couldn't Kale Banks could go on the first round.

β€œI think he is like I said, is a little complicated because he barely played this last season.”

And it was an injury related thing. So teams are obviously going to be a little bit worried about that. But, um, you know, late first early second. This, this, the way he tested today. And I'm guessing the way that he's interviewing and all that will make him.

We can. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's the whole, the whole, my world is Adam chef to just posted.

Quoting chef. Some context on measurements taken throughout the week of the combine. Measurements sometimes vary for players depending on who measures them. To that end, at least two NFL teams measured Ruben Bayon Junior's arms. North of 32 inches.

Are you serious? Someone had him under 31. Someone had him over 32. I mean, we had this to make sure. And Todd, it's like, how do you even fucking measure?

Where's the meat of my shirt? Where's the star on the shoulder? The fuck out of here. This is the dumbest. This is the dumbest.

What are we doing? Come here. This is the dumbest. Agent being like, hey. Hey.

Can you let them know that there were two teams that put him back.

Depends where you start the measurement. Yes. I disagree with the base. This is this time. I, you know what?

This is the dumbest thing. Although maybe it's not because the World Campbell thing may be ended up matter.

β€œBut I think it's more important for tackle damage.”

I still am upset by because the thing you know when mentioned with the World Campbell thing is he was a rookie who came off injured reserve and then sucked. He had an injury. He missed five weeks of the knee injury and they sucked coming back and it was like,

it was just fucking leg. Anyway, let's get to the real news of the day here. Um. Which you ate before. So Caleb Banks, Florida, rising.

Yeah. T-Rex guys falling. They accept a room in Bangalore. I mean, they've been being rising now over 32. I don't know.

I don't know. But the difference is 31. He's levitating. Yeah. Okay.

The NFL PA survey, which every year is, frankly, the most fun part of the whole week. This is the strike and defect of the week where the NFL is trying to bury this. In fact, they did get it buried. This was leaked. I want to explain what happened.

So yeah. Sorry. I just totally interrupted you here. But basically, the NFL PA has run this survey with like thousands, a couple thousand players across the league every year.

And questions range from, you know, how the ownership is willing to invest in the facilities, the food at the facility, the weight, the weight room and their trainers and things like that. What else am I for you? Field conditions.

Yeah. There's like a million things. Everything. Right. Basically, everything.

They're trying to get a good. It's a word measure of what organizations are the best, essentially. Which organizations take care of the players the most. They care of game day. For like everything.

Family treatment. So like over the last couple of years, if you average it out, the cardinals have been the last place team. They've been the worst. They just the owner doesn't get a chance to go for players. Washington with dance that it was last night.

Right.

Strangely enough, and I would never have guessed this.

I don't think just if I had no knowledge of what they were doing, the dolphins are the gold standard of the NFL, which I just, I never would have thought that because Minnesota's been up there for a while. Yeah. It's always stuck to the sheer. But yeah, my amniac.

I wouldn't have guessed that. I mean, they like living in a warm tropical area. I also equate this with teams that are good. Right. It teams that are good have higher grades.

Yeah. And that's a good segue for who's in last place. Yes. So also, shout out Cale and Colourty has been a long story short. The NFL wanted arbitration that they made the NFL PA.

Not able to publish these this year. So they can collect them. They just can't publish them because they basically have an NFL. And it's like obviously that's going to leak. Well, Cale and Colourty has been did the Lord's work here.

And I'm fucking published them anyway. So shout out to Cale and. Yeah.

β€œAnd who wants to read, who wants the honor of reading?”

I'll gladly do it. I suppose I should do it. Yeah. Craig, why don't you just lead some select choices. I have here from Cale and Cale and Cale.

So it was last. The Steelers are dead last. Yeah. In fact, we'd sorry. There's a headline right here.

This is another thing that I would like. Dolvin's ranked first. Steelers worst in NFL PA survey. It's so fun. It's so fun.

It's so fun. It's art, Rooney, the owner, ranks last in the league for willingness to invest in facilities. A trend reflected in the Steelers' poor facility ratings across the board. That's the kind of thing. Oh, yeah.

Your grandfather is rumored to have bought the team by winning $500 at a horse race in 1922. Steelers had the lowest rated home field in the league by a wide margin. That was a new category this year. Their locker room was graded in F. The players reported that quote, the locker room only has five bathroom stalls for the entire team.

This is wild. I think that's the craziest thing I've ever heard in 10 years. Yeah. This to me is insane. That is less than half of the bathrooms in Russell Wilson's home.

In Denver. Russell Wilson's house had 12 bathrooms per capita. Just absolutely atrocious.

You get year to have players like we're talking at a minimum.

One stall for 10 guys.

Russell Wilson's minimum.

And they're all in the locker room at the same time though. It's not like a normal thing. Russell Wilson's house had four bedrooms, 12 bathrooms. The Steelers have 55 guys in the team. Plus.

It's a very locker room. 90 man. Yeah. Right. Right.

Coaches, traitors, five stalls. Dude. And that, yeah. The 90 man Russell doesn't even count all the other fucking people that are in the organization. Do you know guys know how much these guys eat?

You've seen plates at an NFL facility. Yeah.

β€œThis is, this is the craziest thing I think I've ever heard.”

Five stalls for an entire fucking NFL team. You know, one then doesn't work. Think about the damage those things are going through. It's like, you know, it's good talk. You know how like stuff gets weathered when it's in salt water.

Like this is like that times a hundred. Think about the damage these things go through. This continues my, my point about the Steelers just like this institutional arrogance that they have where it's like their fake their fake blue blood. You know, it's not arrogant. They're broke.

It's like this money.

Yeah, but it's like this non flashy thing.

That's like been baked into their blood of like blue collar hardcore. And it's like baked into the actual facilities and the everything that's going on with the team. Do you think father shot here like his father's like it was good. If it was good enough for my granddaddy. Yeah.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. And they're refusing to acknowledge it. They're just like bearing their hands. They're like, we're not putting it in more toilets.

I can't believe this. Five fucking stalls. That's crazy. Uh, God. Do you guys know, like, it's like a bad caught.

That's like illegal at a concert. Yeah. It's a fire hazard. Right. Yeah.

Not only that. The dealer's strength coaches ranked lost in the NFL. That's.

β€œWhat do you think about when you think of the dealers?”

Because of like strength. Because everybody's fucking shitting themselves. Well, they're weird. What do you think of when you think of steel? Yeah.

You have nowhere to shit in the strength coaches suck.

The train staff ranks first and the strength coaches.

Wait. Which one? I don't know. The strength coaches. Because the strength coaches are so bad.

These guys get hurt all the time. The training staff has to repair them. I can't believe this. I can't believe this. I can't believe this.

These guys are strong. So they get hurt. And the training staff got really good. Because they have a lot to do. Remember how we were talking about Jared Goff is really bad on the road.

Because he doesn't have anywhere good to shit. Yeah. Think about. I mean, the stress that this would cause someone who is a little bit of a shy pooper when you're going.

I wonder how you're going into work every day. How many bathrooms do you think of the visiting locker room has two? We have to share with you. How many times a day are they cleaning this thing? That's a great quarter of five times a day.

They're doing them. Zero. God. That's a great question too. Because like dude, we don't have to get too gnarly here.

But like we can't stress them. These things are getting blown. Have you ever seen train spotting? Yeah. The worst.

The worst toilet in Scotland. That's what he gets talking to. That's what I've heard. Just Google the worst. It's toilet in Scotland.

I actually use a brutal. Yeah. Do it. I've got a group of guys who do heroin in Scotland. Fuck.

I don't know if it's the worst toilet images. I have to watch the scene. Wow. You just watch him entering the stall. Because he really has to shit.

And he goes into the grossest stall in human history. Oh. And has to make a decision. Fuck. Oh God.

This looks bad. You look at it. It's like there's a lot of debris everywhere on the floors. Tell me what I'm leaking walls. Yeah.

You've gone. He's actually watching. Oh my God. He's the closest. Yeah.

Oh. Oh no. There's no lid. You have to sell the rim. No.

No. You just got a squat. He can't. I mean, you just got go out in the woods or something at that point. You're not going in there.

He's like. He's like, "I'm leaving." Do you know what a George pick is wanted to leave? Anyway. I can't even watch that.

But she's telling you this is how many billions that they make every year. Sir, my voice cracked out so upset. This is like six. This is absolutely fucking one. The idea that the stelers are just like the most apathetic team in the week.

I at first, I admit. I kind of felt like you're being a little whiny about the stelers. This to me was like, okay. I'm actually on Craig's side now. Dead last in the NFL.

There's just, there's just nothing there now. This is what the owners hate these surveys too because they actually have to do stuff. Yeah. And this is what the NFLP is not going to give it up.

β€œWhat was the Arizona or a Cincinnati that made their players pay for the on the Venom machines?”

Arizona. No, no. Since the badminton. Arizona made players pay for box lunches. Which again, nutrition pro athletes.

It's like a talk of the easiest ROI you got. It's like they should not eat shit. And they would if they took box lunches, Arizona deducted the cost of the lunch and their pay. Not even they deducted it.

I can't even stream like that's so cheap.

So um, but there's a thing that the NFL, like the owners do.

The owners hate that this comes out. And they're just like, we have an agreement. Well, I don't know. There's a usual suspects of the owners where the ones who came out in opposition. It's like all the people you would expect.

It was Woody Johnson's past. Our Rooney Robert Craft, Michael Bidwell from Arizona, David Tapper of the Cardinals. Those are all the guys being like, "This is bogus." We hate this. I don't see it on the right.

Yeah, yeah. I do think that the Steelers have a lot in common with the Yankees with the Lakers. Um, and with the Giants where you have these swash buckling. Titans have initially who made their money themselves. And then they come in and then the kids.

To get the team. But they didn't have, like, they didn't have to make them. And so just they didn't make money. And the kids who inherited it, they're less willing to take risks and take chances. Because they didn't have to to get to the point where they're in their life.

Is this my read on it? Yeah, it's Jerry Bust did crazy shit to get the Lakers. Jerry Jones took crazy risks. And like, you don't want to take the risk. The Yankees.

It's all the same thing. And so I think that's the thing.

Yeah, it's, it's scary to spend the money when you didn't make the money.

You just sit on your hands. Yeah. And you collect your check every year. Because there's no lid on the toilet. Yeah.

You can't even sit on your hands. Is it, please email us if you have any additional context in the five stalls. If anyone's like, can we get a picture? Not shit in it. But I want to see, I want to see the facility.

I mean, I'll send the one for you. Yeah, I only five stalls. Dude, I, we should move on. I feel like that's five stalls for an entire team. That's got to be one of the worst.

The bathroom in the restaurant that we are sitting next to you right now has five stalls. I know. This is what it's going to get. It's like, it's got to be one of the worst ratios I've ever heard of. Yeah, I was saying.

Minimum, this is one stall pretend guys.

β€œI think kids dressed in a funny, really.”

They're in certain parts of the season. But the thing is, they all are on the same schedule. Like, they're all eating at the same time. And they're all available to getting changed at the same time. Is there a shit line in the morning?

I don't know. They're has to be.

Or is there an understanding like, hey, you got to go at home before you come in?

Yeah, but then they're home all the time. Sometimes it's unpredictable, man. Especially when they're feeding them like that. Maybe this is the sign that these guys got to be regular so that they get up. They go at home.

They don't have to go at this facility. It's just unbelievable. It's like people who don't want to poop when they're camping. Like me. I don't want to do.

I'm not trying to do like woods poops. They're just holding it in for how many days. I don't know how many days you see. I was really cool camping. Not, I mean, not very often.

Have you ever taken woods poop? No. The ones. How was it? Awful.

That's not worth it. Some people. Some people wear by it. I was fishing. What do you mean?

You were in the water. You were in the woods. No. No. The woods was fishing.

How did you wipe? Uh. I had big towels. This is the question we all wanted out. Yeah.

Not with toilet paper, paper towels. Yeah. And you're digging a hole. Relative. Have you dug a hole?

I don't have a fucking shovel. So no, he just left it out there.

β€œOh, in the woods, what am I supposed to fucking do?”

It fertiliser. I think the etiquette is you dig a hole. The etiquette. Right. Bears do that.

Now we're going to have bears. Anyway, wow. I didn't mean to bring in that up, really. But I was just picturing pooping in the pooping hole. I just went, like, you're going to have guys that are that have shy

blatters and shy poops that are just holding it in. That's not healthy. Tom won't held a lot of shit together. He's unraveling out his head. The further we get away from this, the more I respect Tom.

Dude, he's got this spider man in the meme. He's holding the bus together. He's like, the guy with arrows on COVID-19. Do you think there's any toilets in the facility that are like, like, the coaches are like, you guys can't go in there.

Yeah, like, when I was in high school. Like, nice to see. Like, poop. Yeah. I was in high school.

The teachers had their own little ballroom. Same here. Yeah, the teacher's better. And I went up. How much a junior I figured out what the code was.

And that's where I'm going to go. I saw a really funny video of this guy pretending to do a tour of, like, a big tech company's facilities. And it's like, he's introduced or he's like, giving the tour to a new employee.

And he's like, here is like, the cafeteria. We have a full cafeteria, free lunch, breakfast dinner, every single day. Like, here's the bullpan. We got ping pong.

We got this and that. There's a rooftop. If you want to go and look out. And then here, there's one tiny bathroom where you can hear all your employees shit every single day.

[LAUGHTER] Yeah. [LAUGHTER] It's like, what are you doing? I have a coworker just to have diarrhea.

What's going on in the night, Mary? No, it's like that. It's actually super true. Yeah, I really identified with that. It's the worst.

It's the worst.

β€œEvery time you have to go to the bathroom,”

it's about to find, like, horrific. I need to walk a mile to find this. This is my previous career. I was working in, like, legal litigation support. And we would go around to all these different law firms and deliver things.

And so, like, I'm, like, sort of a salesman walking around. And we had in each building, like, a favorite floor that had the best bathrooms. And it was, like, well known among people, like, where's the best toilets? It's great. So, Ben Lindberg, who works here at the ringer, like, three weeks into COVID, argued that he made,

He wrote an arc for the ringer.

You guys know, Maslow's hierarchy.

The idea, you can't really enjoy anything to have, like, food, water, shelter, et cetera.

β€œLike, once you have doesn't establish them, you have the next set of needs, right?”

So, you can't really enjoy the Eiffel Tower. I have a place to shit, might be in the basement. So, Ben Lindberg, argument. Ben Lindberg argued that the fact when COVID happened, like, March 2020, to fact that America just instantly ran out of toilet paper.

Suggest that we had data, that they actual move it up. Things people need for food, water, shelter, and place to shit and white. And he was, like, literally, that's, like, apparently the first thing people think of. I really, I can't believe that somebody that a company hasn't figured out how to make, but days more mainstream in America.

They're working on it. My tissue, get at us. I'm just saying, I mean, that would solve so many issues. And on both sides, it would make a lot of money for whoever's doing it. And also, just way cleaner and easier.

Not to go by toilet paper. I mean, if you don't shit in your arm and you just wipe it off. And we're like, I'm good. I mean, like, crazy. I've heard, dog shit is even worse.

But I was always like, I heard that, you know, if there's peanut butter on your arm and you just wipe it off.

I didn't smell your arm. It's going to fucking smell like peanut butter. It's actually insane. I have a bidet and, like, shut up showing you, who told me the worst part of having a bidet is when you aren't near your bidet.

Yeah, right? My day is addictive. When I went to, when we went to Sweden, and then I went to London after that, did the bidet experience is good. But they're allowed luxurious.

I'm glad I brought that up. Why were we just shooting on the NFL? Can I also tell you, I think we're talking about this yesterday. And I was going to bring this up on this show, but I kind of want to. I think just in the vein of we're joking about all this.

But the larger point is, these teams are cheap. And they don't invest as much as they invest a ton into certain things and way less than you think and others. Like the chiefs almost did a three-peat with no infrastructure. And I was telling you guys this, the restaurant you couldn't believe it. But it's very mainstream.

I'm not going to say who. But a coordinator. And the NFL was 20 years ago, and I was meeting with this coordinator. And they were telling me that one of the busiest parts was they had to hire multiple coaches on their staff at the combine.

β€œAnd they were like, oh, I have like 14, you know, a few of three or four positions you have to hire for.”

You're like, I have scheduled 13 or 14 interviews. And the hardest part is actually trying to do that. I was like, don't you have an assistant helping you? They're like, no, I have to do it. And I was like, how many, and maybe I'm wrong.

But how many jobs in the United States of America?

Could pay you a salary of two or three or four million dollars per year.

Like your time is so, yeah, your time is so valuable. You're an offensive or defensive coordinator. That you're getting like three or four million dollars a year. But they won't pay 40 or 50,000 dollars to get that person's assistant. So you have to schedule all your meetings and do your everything yourself.

It genuinely makes no sense. There's so many options. I'm sure there's so many bottlenecks like that in Proof of all. Like there's so many efficiencies that could be had. And is it because like if you give an inch take a mile, like if you allow one person to have an assistant,

all of the coaches are going to want to assist in this. They don't want to look for that. They just, they're just not adding in person. It's absolutely, I mean, it is such a bottleneck. That's tough.

That that tedious shit like scheduling things, emails, stuff like that would take so long. Maybe I'm wrong. But like there cannot be that many other industries that pay anyone four million dollars. And they can't get it. I can't believe no one's butch.

Like a coordinator going to their owner and being like, you realize that I would be 30% better at my job. I'm more efficient with my time if you gave me an assistant that we paid 60 grand a year. They're like, we're not giving assistance to every coach. No one of these people sleep at their offices.

It's because they're so fucking, well, there's such a culture of grinding. Yeah.

β€œAnd then if I were first in last hour, you know what?”

You're a bitch. That's actually like they're like, oh, so you're bitch. You can't do it all yourself. You need a six toilet in a locker room. Dude.

How would you win a playoff game? Yeah. Anyway, emails are going to fancy football, and they'll come about stalls. Everyone toilets are for closers.

Okay. I want to get through. We really lingered on that. I told you we could do that. Yeah.

The DKU are a draft expert here at the ringer. And the filter afthoughttheraer.com. We got your big board as expanded 50 players. It's a fucking huge board. It's pretty big.

It's pretty big. Big, girthy board. Yeah. Yeah. I want to change the clock.

I want to start loving the change it to my big, girthy big board. Yeah. Yeah. Go to the ringer. There's too much DKU's big girthy board.

Biggest fucking board you ever seen. My big, big, big board member of the URL. Big girthy board dot the ringer. But I will say, Craig, you are. You're our outsider insider here at the ringer.

Yeah. You're, you're, so I was going to say, I kind of want. Craig has, Craig has been really brushing up with all his insider sources here. That's right. Definitely a lot of people.

This is where you do it in Indianapolis. That's right. You were out late every night. You talk to my sources, getting intel, watching highlights on YouTube all that good stuff.

No, but I wanted to talk to you about why receivers. Yeah. Because we haven't really talked about them a whole lot on this show. And your big board expanded and there's like you like six or seven guys on that list. Sure.

And so I wanted to give you who I thought were my favorite guys. Would you jump to off the page? I love it. I love it. Get your take.

I'm going to give you my loose top five rankings.

Okay. Actually, they're not loose. They're fucking, they're locked in. You're doing this at all. Yeah.

And I feel very strongly about this top five. The pro days are not going to affect this. No, I don't care about that. Okay. All right.

My number one receiver is Jordan Tyson. Okay. Do I think he's sick? Yeah. Yeah.

I think he's awesome.

β€œI think your Confer Christian Watson actually is great.”

Okay. And I feel like in the same way I kind of poo poo to Doug Baldwin Confer. Like Christian Watson. You send us first. I'm taking Christian Watson.

But it is like Jordan Tyson. Because you've actually watched Christian Watson play. Well, yes. And when Christian Watson is out, he's not Watson. Christian Watson at his best.

Like Jordan Tyson to me is like if every single, if the best play of Christian Watson like career is just every play of Jordan Tyson. He is like 2.0 version of them. He just seems so twitchy. That's, it's the way he moves really reminded me of the similar of Christian Watson

in terms of like explosive twitchy. You know, deep all, like he's really good getting deep. Like he's body control. Basketball tendencies. That is on the caps.

First of all, is in the NBA.

That's crazy. And I'm shocked. He's only six two. He plays way bigger. It's not a trait in a receiver when you think they're taller because they play big.

I thought he was six four watching him. I just think he's great. And I, I know that he has injury concerns. Don't care. I just think there may be like a little overflow.

I mean, he had a little impact on the injury 22. And while MCL and PCL. But I think he's certainly shown explosive distance. I think he does get docs because he had eight, and then he broke his collarbone 2040.

Amsting issue last year. So he has a big issue. Three of the last four seasons. So I'm going Jordan Tyson once.

β€œI think he does get docs because he had eight,”

and then he broke his collarbone 2040. I'm going Jordan Tyson once. I'm going Denzel Boston too. I'm going Cornell take three. All right.

I'm going, and then McIleman and Omar Cooper are tied for four. Four for four. Okay. That's where I'm at. I like that.

Yeah. So let's go through it. You're going through it. Yeah. Let me, let me, let me talk about Denzel Boston because he's a really fun guy.

He's a really fun guy. He's watching since four, two and a non-pants. Yeah. Six four, two, ten. He plays above the room.

He's just. Contestance catches really strong. Maybe I have a tight, but like, his like energy and fluidity. And fluidity and ability at his size.

I'm just like, this guy also moves just really well for a 64. How many 64 guy receivers are pump returns? Yes. He returns. Yeah.

I can't touch them. Yeah. I don't know man. He jumped off the page to me. I liked him a lot.

Yeah. And the guy who I couldn't get behind was McIleman. Who, I know a lot of people like. Yeah. To me seems way small.

I know it's like, we'll see if he's five, ten or five, eleven. He's listed as five, eleven. Does not seem five, eleven to me. Is this because I come down to Doug Baldwin? How tall is Doug Baldwin?

Five, ten. Yeah. You're like, fuck. Now I really don't like him. I don't mean this in a mean way, just factual.

We're never going to get over the Doug Baldwin.

Just because you guys haven't watched in playful ball. There's a, yeah. There's a name bias there. But I look as a TV show when we were kid and Doug was not athletic. No.

Terrible measure bulls. First percentile. The youngest person I know is my until Doug Baldwin's like my might. Well he doesn't do anything in the show. Yeah.

I've no idea. Doug's last. He's the last name. Doug has to at least like each year. I'm going to watch your name.

I'm going to look that out. McCoy Lemon. I don't know. To me, he does not seem like a top 15 pick in the draft. Also it's one of those nomadist determinisms.

Like littleies. Lemon. Yeah. He like reminds me of a running back to be on Doug funny. Doug funny.

Oh, I knew that. Yeah. Now sounds right. Doug funny. Doug funny.

Not why. Oh, different spelling. Different spelling. Same name. Different spelling.

Different spelling. Okay. I want to remind you that he's going to be five nine and three points. He wouldn't see USC. Yes.

Okay. Give me your, do you like him? What's your ranking? My ranking is Cardinal. I'll tell you number one.

Okay. Who I have fourth. Why did you not like him? I feel like to me. He seems high floor low ceiling.

I think he is the way. Devante Smith a little bit.

β€œI think he's smaller than Devante Smith.”

But in the same way where I'm like, I think this guy's going to be good. I think that's actually fair because the reason I have Jordan a little lower is because I think he's high ceiling low floor. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. And so I just thought Cardinal Tate is really polished. Yeah. He's really pretty control. I just think he's going to be really good.

I have McIleman second. Because I like. Thank you so much. I think number one.

What's so good about incredible body control.

Great speed after the catch. Good route runner. You can shake coverage really easily. He's really tough. Who's your comp for him?

I was Doug Baldwin. Of course. That was like a me question. Yeah. I feel better now.

But yeah. And I just think he's really tough. And the other comp that I think people are throwing out for him, which I don't think is like quite right. From the Kyleman.

Yes. Steve Smith senior. Steve Smith. I think a little bit like thicker and more physical. And it's multiple people.

Right. But that's another kind of like visualization. I think the point of McIleman though is interesting because he's going to measure in here several days and what he how tall he is will probably matter a lot. Yeah.

Because they're just aren't frankly a lot of. Five ten elite receivers.

Yeah.

It's like very few.

The list is pretty small.

And I would say he doesn't play super big to me. Oh, I think it's. I think it's. Oh, that's way out. I'm chef to just post that actually some people have McIleman.

Six six feet. Oh, yes. I think the height thing is like they're probably pretty close in the height. Uh, but I am dubious of all this now. I think it's funny because. How many did you get from cleats?

Oh, they have that figured out. You can't use your bare feet. No, I know. But just in general, is that you get like an inch two inches. How much do you get from cleats? Do you get it? Do you?

Are you shorter because you have flat feet? Like does the arch give you a little bit extra? I don't know. I have flat feet. I don't know.

Maybe question. Anyway, I'm really six feet. Sure.

β€œThat's what it says on your hand, right?”

Yeah. But yeah, I would say my by far my two favorites are Jordan Tyson and Denzelball. Tell me about how you liked Omar Cooper. Omar Cooper is just one of those guys that feels like he's just going to be productive in the end. We're doing the thing. Omar Cooper, why does he run Indiana?

Yeah. Gus Johnson favorite. Omar Cooper. The best.

Yeah, the most incredible catcher of the year.

Yeah. Yeah. Gus, I actually have notes on all these big ten-ass, plofucking players and what Gus Johnson's like celebrations for them are. It's just your same model.

Big ten-ass fucking players. What did you say? I just feel like he does more big ten-ass. I was like, well, that's interesting. I just feel like Cooper's going to get drafted later by a good team and he'll be really productive on a good team.

I can see that. I don't know what's your comfort. He's like golden taters. I said if mine was going to be good. Well, I kind of like that.

I said Josh downs with a power-up mushroom. So like, just I thought those more like things like he moves. Yeah, power-up mushroom. Right. Okay, see.

Yeah. Mario Brothers. Yeah, he's a slot guy. He's probably not going to play outside. He's like play outside a ton.

I think he got moved. He played outside early in his career. Got moved in this last season for Indiana. He was really good there. He runs after the catch.

He's really tough. There's a good catch point. Yeah.

And he just moves similar to Josh downs and sounds like he's got a great balance.

Interesting. I think I'm more Cooper reminds me a lot of like, I'm on our same ground. Yeah. And that's who McCoy Lemon gets a lot of those. Combs.

That's it. Because the USC thing. I think I'm more Cooper. I fucking love him. And it's like really simple.

Indiana. You ask courage to get a, and he's like, the strategy is we run the ball so that we can throw to our Mark Cooper. Like, like, they get the ball to number three. It's just what, like, that was Indiana's offense.

And like, they have what's it. They had some good receivers on that team. Yes. And I just heard is another guy who's in this draft. He's really interesting.

And when they couldn't get the ball to our Cooper, they would throw it to him. But like, I'm back in there. But he blocks his ass off. And there's a difference in receivers who block and receivers who fucking love to block.

But a monro is like the same cycle path that he has where he just like would read what he read the names of every single receiver drafted before I'm out loud to himself before he goes to practice every day. Even though his girlfriend got that number wrong.

β€œAnd that's why he wears the wrong number.”

We don't talk about this. But what? So he's been receiving received. He wears the number 14, right? Because he has a lot of advantage.

Yes. Yes. He has a lot of advantage. How many receivers went ahead of him? She got the number wrong.

So he literally picked the wrong number. There was like, really 15 instead of 14. All right. I'm not changing it now. I think it more than I think about that story.

I think that I forget the timeline because golf is 16 and he's 14. But the number should have been 16. I wonder should do that on purpose. Why be too off? Because he wanted the number.

But Jared had it. But why not be 15 then? 15's kind of lame. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Sure. Yeah. It's been 14 better for receiving than 15. 14's two touchdowns.

Uh, it's cool. Um. 15's. I have no. 14 or 15 is cooler.

For receiver? No. All right. I don't think it's obvious. You said that very better.

Yeah.

β€œWell, obviously 15's lame or that's why she went.”

We all know this. Yeah. For rips. We all agree that. 14's a football number.

Come on. You know what I'm saying? 14's not a football number. 14's a football number. I'm going to look up.

Famous 15. 15's a little more delicate. Little more dangerous. I'll save you. There you go.

That's a good one. I mean, he's pretty good. 15 87. We might get to go back. That's not a, you know.

It's different. I'm crazy. I'm just saying 14's a football number. We're two touchdowns. You get 14.

Yeah. It's a more masculine number. I know. It's not visually. It's more masculine.

It shows edges. Not round, not round edges. You know. There's a difference. No.

You know, like so. Okay. Brandon Marshall. We're still doing this list takes forever. It's like one of those recipes.

You try to Google a recipe and you have to read the fuck off story. Can I, can I? Johnny blood. McNally. Damn.

What are you looking up? What are you talking? That's number 15's in full NFL history. He played in from 1926 to 19, or sorry, 1929 to 1936. Johnny blood McNally.

I do want to tell you Colonel Bart Star. Okay. There's not a lot of good ones. You, I might be on your guys side now. Yeah.

Okay. Colonel Tate when he scores touchdowns goes down. So it would be like. Colonel Tater. Hold run here.

You know, every time was just phenomenal. Tater. Uh, who tell him?

Tim Tibo is number 15.

Oh, sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.

I just love Omar Cooper. And I think he's the classic.

β€œI think the kind of receivers that fall.”

I think one of the reasons that you know how long we would joke, sometimes the second third round of receivers end up better than the first round. Yeah. Yeah. It's because it's like defensively agree.

We're, what, and never, defensive ends up has a very similar thing.

Where there are two kinds of prospects. Like the tipty tipty top that you're more chased is the Leo Jones are. Guides who are really technically proficient and have great fundamentals and that running in skills, but also prototypical size and athleticism. And there's like one or two of those are drafts or whatever.

And they're elite. And they go really high. But then you have more or less two buckets. Guides with all the physical tools and talent, but not all the technical proficiency. And then guys were really great at playing football, but don't have ceiling athleticism.

Not elite traits. And the NFL, especially a defensive end, usually leans toward the first round ends up being crazy athletes that could be grid. And then the athletes who are, and then players who actually are really good. But I've ceiling athleticism, which is like Donovan is Iraqu for the Cowboys or

Epiquetti who I think went to the Falcons. Like guys who are like ceiling athleticly, but like technically proficient. Same thing happens at receiver, where it's like the crazy ceiling athletes who don't know how to play. Kind of go high. But then the people who fall are like.

Among us same brown falls to the fifth round or whatever. I'll play a great field for the game, but physically not remarkable from a measurement

β€œand interesting standpoint. That's how I feel looking at Omar.”

Yeah, I say it's a bad athlete, but he's the kind of guy that he just knows that a fucking play football. He's a professional. I totally agree. He's going to fall because he's 23 and he's older and he's like not going to test that out of the gym.

But I think if the buffalo bills get Omar Cooper in the back of the first round,

that's phenomenal. Yeah. I totally agree. He's going to fall to some good team and be super productive immediately. Yeah.

Don't want, yeah. I like your rankings. Tyson, when I feel like that. I feel like receivers more than any other position are. Pick your flavor.

It just you have a types, you know what I mean? Or you have sort of archetypes that you really like or gravitate to. Maybe it's fantasy related. I don't know what, but I mean, I could definitely get on board with some of these rankings. I have Tyson a little bit lures because I think the consistency wasn't exactly there.

But I understand the physical traits are. I think he's awesome. I will say, I don't think any of these guys are above like Mick Millen last year. Luther Bird in life. I would put both those guys ahead of all of you.

Yeah. He's people. I think, I think Tyson, if he didn't have any of the injury injuries would probably be an important thing. Jordan Tyson, I would have all these guys under Mick Millen.

It's a deeper flavor class. He might be. He's the new cadarious Tony. What? He's like a cadarious Tony play football.

What does that mean? He's like if cadarious Tony play football. You're favorite receiver of all time, cadarious Tony.

β€œThat's why you've ever seen play football cadarious Tony?”

He's better than that. In a phone booth, cadarious Tony can't be jackaled. Luther Bird now has way more diverse skill said than Tony. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just need to think of that.

Any other case he concepts you on? He didn't even take his name on me. Okay. That's fine. You come to the killel, she cared.

I'm like, okay. I think my comps really give you the egg. You know, she gave me huge guy.

I'm like, watch the guys first before you want.

No, before you look at my comps. I mean, no, we read your guide. I know, don't just watch him first. So at the top of the guy, can you say, don't nobody read this? I'm actually watching the highlights first.

Don't read the guide. We'll put that at the top. Deca's girthy big guide. Don't fucking read it. Big girthy, big probbing guide.

It's Vinny triumphant guide. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I don't care. I don't care.

You're paying triumphant. I'm just happy to see me. Are there any other dudes you want to mention? That you've been, you know, right about that have risen up the ranks, guys. You're excited about this week.

I think this week. Something that has been happening this week is the M in worry. In fact, we talked about this couple shows ago, where Nick M in worry was the number one safety of all time on the relative athletic score. And that kind of thing that actually does kind of.

Which means physical freak of nature. Right. He's the Seahawks rookie. That was awesome. You kind of changed their whole defense.

Allow them to do some things that they hadn't been able to do before. I think there's going to be an M in worry effect. Also is coincidental and, you know, works really well here that there's three really good safety. These are at least three really good safety's in this draft.

And I think the three guys that I wanted to talk about, Caleb Downs. Hive as you give a quick elevator pitch on Caleb Downs. But he's the opposite of even worry. He's not a freak. He's pretty athletic though.

No. The physical measurements. I mean, he's a little bit under size. He's not super duper fat. With him, it's less athletic thing.

I guess I should have prefaced that. It's the safety being such an integral part of a defense thing with him. But then if you look at the other two guys that I wanted to bring up. The first one is Dylan Thaneman from Oregon, who he was a freaks list guy from last year. I think Austin said he's going to run a four three.

If he runs a four three.

His stock is he's, I think, going to be on the radar big time after this week.

But I watched him. I recently did his report. He's really, really exciting. It flies around versatile to play all the different types of positions in the back. Like he could play single high.

He can play, you know, two high. Come down into the slot. Overhang, whatever. He's just really, really athletic. Ranging.

Good tackler. Good coverage. Instinctive and coverage. Bunch of picks.

β€œAnd I think he's going to be the guy that probably tests out of the gym at safety.”

And kind of like people are going to start freaking out about. And then the other guy who I think is very interesting is Toledo's Emmanuel McNeil Warren, who he kind of reminds me of Kaylin Bullock, who now is on the Texans. He just flies around. He's really instinctive in positioning himself to like, so like,

for instance, I just picture him blowing up screens coming downhill really quickly before the blocking can even get set up. Just he's another guy with a lot of ball production. He just flies all over the place. He has good hands. And he's six three, at least he's he's listed at six three.

He's really long tall, you know, smooth, rangey athlete. I'm excited to see how he tests as well. He was to me not as he was not very consistent as a tackler. I think that was like the one thing that kind of had Thiemann, sorry, Thiemann above him in my rankings.

But they're both very, very intriguing defenders. And I think with the M in war I think what happened last year. I think like a rise is because he seems to be like, maybe we can get our version of, you know, Hamilton or M in war. That can kind of change the calculus of how we'd line up the geometry of how we line up in the back felt.

And he can be just, you know, match it with tight hands, match it with backs. Change the way that you played defense. So I'm excited to see how those guys test. It's going to be a cool combat. Good players are going to be.

People are testing, which is not always, you don't always see it.

Some of the biggest names are actually testing. So that's exciting. Made it through the combat. We're here. And we're going to cover the draft, the whole way.

β€œI think we're probably going to get some trades between now.”

And the next show we record, obviously. We'll probably be some trades that happen. Free agencies coming soon. Free agency in a couple weeks. I'm literally losing.

He's choking up. He can't wait for free agency. I just need so much. We were talking about Malik, we were just getting 35 million. Yeah.

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β€œWe did a couple of different times at this middle school by our house.”

So much fun. I think it was eight foot hoops. Yes, seven foot hoops, whatever it was. And people were doing like put back dogs. It was like, and it was 13 years old.

It was so much fun. There's nothing better. We were tall enough to watch one hand. You feel like you're fucking quiet. It's unbelievable.

It's like the greatest moment for suburban white kids. Yeah. It's the dream. I've got to for hours. And I was so my brother and I, we put up.

We could put a chain net on the, on the thing. Yeah, it was like the beginning of space jam with Michael Jordan. He's hitting the free throws on the show. This is the number one thing that the save by the Bell Millennials don't get about SpongeBob Millennials is the impact that space jam had.

I don't know. Yes. You never watch a lot. I didn't really get into space jam. It's Michael Jordan.

What if Michael Jordan bugs bunny? Like, we're fucking butts. And it's unbelievable. God. That does sound like fucking awesome.

Yeah. And I was for it was crazy. I didn't crazy crossover. Did you see the remake? I did not.

I did. And it was like SQL. It was remake. Because it was a run. And they did a multiverse thing with like bugs,

bloody and like Warner Brothers stuff. Yeah. And it was like good enough. But like, what do you feel like, like,

β€œlike, characters from the larger Warner Brothers universe were popping in?”

It's bad. You know, it's bad as I can't even remember. You saw it? Oh, yeah, I did. Well, you went to the theater?

No. What is the plot of this theater for space jam? Oh, I waited my whole life for someone asked me this. Got it. Now I'm regretting.

Michael Jordan is going to be a great hit. Michael Jordan is golfing with Bill Murray. And Michael Jordan reaches down into his makes up pot, reaches down to the cup. And he gets sucked into Looney to the world. And Bill Murray's at the golf course alone, being like, what do I do?

And then the bugs, the bugs buddy, then we need you to win a basketball game. Some people are going to, we've challenged the no basketball game. And if you lose, then all Looney to the land, we're going to like have to go to the other planet. We're going to die. So Michael Jordan is going to die.

Who are the monsters? The bad guys. They stole the talent from other NBA players. So they stole the talent from Charles Barkley. They stole the talent from Patrick Ewing.

They stole the talent from what he's guys. And so they are like really good. They didn't get Michael Jordan's talent because he was retired playing baseball. And so he's playing baseball on the lap. And so that Looney tunes though, don't believe he's good at basketball.

He's like, he's a baseball player. He sucks. They're like, there's no way this guy's good at basketball. So he has to prove he's actually good at basketball. It's fucking sick.

It's so good. And apparently, while filming on the set, Michael Jordan would make them build a basketball court. Like, you know, on in the production area. And they'd apparently like, because all those guys were there, Charles Barkley on these dudes. And apparently they would have sick runs.

Yeah. Do you have any idea what it's like for like fucking foggorn leghorn to be like, I don't know. He's like a baseball player. I mean, I'm gonna make it come dead for anything. I mean, he's kind of like basketball.

β€œHow is that the first time he's ever done foggorn leghorn?”

Oh, my God. Can you just host a whole pod and foggorn leghorn character? Welcome to the real fair, isn't it? Oh, my God, dude. He's getting veiny.

Look at that. That is good. Yeah.

By the way, Michael Jordan's like off-season pick-up games.

He would organize them with NBA players.

This was on the last dance, I think. Just stuff of legends. Like how hard they're playing. Anyway, I have to watch that movie. I don't, I think I've seen stuff.

You should show Calvin the movie. Oh, yeah. He's the first. He's ready. Basketball this week.

He did. It's the perfect age. That's actually perfect. He's totally on a good age. Oh, sorry.

I'm coming. Yeah. Fuck, they hurt me. Do that voice. That's the monster.

Go to jail.

Yeah, do six-year-old Calvin.

Spacey and perfect. Okay. Do you think the cops know I left?

β€œI didn't take a hold in the woods that one time.”

That's that's your limit. Oh, my God. Okay. Let's get out of here. Thank you, DK.

Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Nick. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Jake. Thank you, Tucker.

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You think it's the right number.

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