NFL Combine Preview: QB2 Race, Arm Length Matters, and There Is a Candy Hall of Fame

Welcome in the ring of fantasy football show

my name is Danny Hype.

“Today I'm joined by D.A.D. Caleb Crack World”

back and we are recording this on Friday. Figure it 20th, you're probably listening this on Monday, which I think is February 23rd, we're probably on our way to the Indian Appless for the NFL combine

as you listen to this right now. We're gonna like hand-time the 40R dash ourselves in case the lasers are wrong and all that jazz and we're gonna see which players are shorter than Craig and we'll move them down to case board.

So we're gonna go to the combine, all the things that matter and obviously all the things about the combine that are pretty stupid. But also we've announced about the name of the show and Craig, who's eating a salad right now live

during the show, you just eating lunch during the show, Craig. It's been a crazy day and I didn't have time to eat and it's a big salad bowl. Nice. Incredibly capacious bowl, Greg.

But yeah, we are now the ringer NFL draft show

where we can eat salads on the show. We're allowing people to eat on the ringer NFL draft show. That's our name for a while, a couple months. We're at the combine. We don't need to be the ringer fantasy football show right now

because we're not. We're talking about the NFL draft. We're talking about free agency, offseason stuff. So for the time being until early May, we will be the ringer NFL draft show.

Nothing changes just we can eat salads now. It's like oceans 11 where they have Brad Pitt eating and every scene. I love that. It's a good bit.

- It's a good bit. - Is it just me or does a salad taste better out of a wooden bowl? - 100%. - It's like a Moscow mule thing.

I don't know what it is about the wooden bowl. I usually just eat a delivery salad out of the delivery container that lives my wife likes to put the salad in a bowl. - Oh, I'm with Liz on that one for sure. - It's an extra dish to wash.

- Shout it to my aunt and uncle. - Mark and Jackie, who when we got engaged, Jackie, I think got us a different Jackie. It's an on Jackie and my fiance Jackie and they got us a wooden bowl.

And now it's like our salad bowl. It's amazing. - It's a good bowl. - I feel like once you get a nice bowl, it will be in your life for 30 years.

- Yeah. - Especially with wooden one. That thing's indestructible. - My children will give their children this exact bowl. - Family heirloom.

- The bowls are, God, bowls are sick. Okay, this is what happens when you turn 30. All the younger people listen to this or problem. - You know what else is sick? The NFL combat.

- Mm. - The best. - Great set. - Is that right?

“Decay, a question for you before we begin about the NFL combat?”

Do you think the NFL combat matters more or less than it ever has? Or neither is it in the middle. (laughing) - Jackie's a--

- It matters less, but only very slightly.

Because the most important things from the combat

or not, the things we really typically talk about that much. - What do you mean? - Two most important things from the combat are not public facing. So it's gonna be medical stuff where this is like

actually the main reason the combat exists is because they wanna get the, all the college eligible, or so are all the draft eligible players from college together in the same place so they can do medical exams on these guys instead of trying to fly

to 350 players home cities and figure it out from there. So that's why they do this essentially. So that's the number one most important thing is the medical is number two most important thing is the interviews which happen behind closed doors

with the players and that is basically the teams trying to get to know these players and see if they're total pocket jackasses, essentially. And that's really the most important thing. The testing is sort of just like this ancillary

cherry on top thing that kind of, I think the media hyper focuses in on and is not actually that important. - I'll just go because Craig's chewing. (laughing)

Craig gave you the hold on stall for me. - I was kind of pal, that was good. - That was good, really consider it. No, it's true though, it's just like this was just a giant medical thing where they're like,

what's up with your knee and then everyone's in line for MRIs and they're like, can we talk to you? And you're like, hey, here's the worst play you had all season, what happened here? And like, who's your least favorite teammate?

And then they're like, oh, while you're here, you wanna like run a 40 yard dash and like that's it.

“And then honestly, it's just a convention.”

It's all the players, like all the agents are there. All the teams are there, GMs, coaches, scouts, media, like everyone's in one place. So it's kind of not that different that conventions that go to Vegas or whatever

for vacuum cleaner salesmen or what it's like any of the convention, it just happens to happen in Indianapolis. And then they also somehow made some of these college athletes have to do drills on edifel network as part of it.

But it's really a convention where a lot of stuff gets done, where it's like GMs, meet GMs and GMB agents to figure out free agency deals ahead of the, they tamper before the deadline is fine, GMs. I remember the rest of Wilson trade from Seattle,

the Denver, it's like John Schneider to see how GM just got a beer somewhere in a bar that they won't disclose with the Denver GM at the time. And they will still in one, George Payton.

and they just figured out the rest of Wilson trade. It's like that. - It's very funny to me that it's so true. I think I was gonna mention it's just like a lot of deals get done simply because everyone's in the same place.

It's like human nature at its, like distilling everything about human nature into one spot.

It's basically just like, hey, you're in front of me,

why don't we talk about something? - Yeah, you know, maybe we could make something work out because I'm looking directly into your eyes over a beer versus, you know, it's like going golfing.

“That's why golf is such a big business thing.”

It's very funny how that still happens. Like these people have phones, they use them. They like to just do this in person. - To be honest, I think it compares very similarly to like going into the office versus working from home.

And like you go into the office for a week and you get 10 things done and you come up with so many more ideas and all these conversations that you have in between meetings and when you're having lunch

and like that stuff that just doesn't happen at home, I understand what ideas get done at the combat. There's only three restaurants and people go to, you're gonna see people. Everyone's that same elbow, even shrimp.

- Yeah. - Yeah, no, it really is like that. That's why the combine on its face is like they sell it as a TV product where it's like 40 our dashes

and then like people like us go or whoever and you see all those news and you're like, why is all this news come in? So everyone's in the same place. It's all happening.

With that said though, there are a bunch of stuff that happens with the combine. It is like the jump and golf point. Really of draft seat or I guess it's starting a couple weeks ago at the senior ball,

whatever you want to decide. But there are still important things that happen at the combine. None more so than America's favorite all season segment. - Panda watch.

- There we go. - Check it out. - Check it out. - Panda watch. I like to hold the mic, even though I have good.

- Yeah, it's good for me. - It's good. - Because like anchor man, Craig, the panda still do anything. - Are you just drinking with your eyes?

- I can't have a drink. - What? - It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like a drink. There's eyes in the drink. - Why want it cold?

- That's like, the loudest drink ever. - I'm like Kevin Durant on Bill's Body in 2017. - It's a bag of chips. (laughing) - What are chip bags made of that they're so loud?

I don't even know what they're made of. - Tissue paper, I think. - I don't know. Why are they so loud? - Soil?

- Yeah. - Some chips bags in particular, really loud. - Tipped off. - They're like, we don't want anyone to eat this in a theater without everyone knowing.

“- Yeah, I think they say they're biodegradable.”

I don't know why that means they're loud, but it does. Is there a company here? Should we make chips that are just the bag is quiet? And that's like the main. - Like you know how the guy in Garden State got really rich

'cause he made silent Velcro if we could make silent. (laughing) - Silent chip holders of some kind. - I think part of the charm of Velcro is the sound. - Yeah.

- While not if you're in a fucking military station or something, that's true. - All right, sneaking up on someone. - It's so good. Okay, let's go through the quarterbacks here.

I think this quarterback class kind of, a little bit is like last year's quarterback class. Structurally in that Cam Ward last year was like the number one pick and it wasn't much drama about it. And Fernando Mendoza this year is like that

where he's gonna go number one to the Raiders. I won't indulge in pretending that's not gonna happen. Like Fernando Mendoza would be the number one pick. And then Ty Simpson from Alabama's probably the number to quarterback and go in the draft.

And then like who the third quarterback is gonna be drafted

this year is like, it could be anyone. Like there's Carson Beck from Miami. There's Garrett Nussmire from LSU. There's Drew Aller from Penn State. Like there's a bunch of guys that could go third.

And I'm curious you think TK, I weirdly wondering if the medicals, which again is the reason they did the combine, or sorry, the combine, combine whatever. It's called the combine 'cause they combined all the freaking things.

They combined all the medicals. There was the national, the Quadra, and Blasto. This is all three different conventions or whatever. I think Blasto is a character in small foot. Blasto, yeah, Blasto is with the advantages.

Blasto, yeah, that was the, those are the three different, I don't know what they're called conventions, I guess. The K combined them together to make the combine. - Do you have a question for you? The quarterback's high, if it's just listed,

Ty Simpson, Carson Beck, Nussmire, Drew Aller. If you had to bet one, so if you look at your draft board, ringer duck, and if he'll, what is it? - What's he got? - And if he'll draft dot the ringer dot com.

- Yeah, that's the one of this. - That'll work, yeah. - It'll reroute, and if he'll draft dot the ringer dot com. You have Fernando Mendoza, number one on your big board, and you don't have another quarterback.

- You a big board. - On your big B, and then you don't have another quarterback in the top 32, Ty Simpson is not there. So if you had to pick a quarterback that you think over the next month,

“remember that, remember a few years ago,”

when there was like a moment where we'll live, this was like, "Well, Lev, it's gonna go in the top five." Is there any quarterback on this list where you think, there's a chance that along this way too long draft cycle that we endure every year,

somebody's gonna get a lot of hype for a week and start talking themselves into another quarterback

as like a mid first round.

- The next Jackson daughter, Tyler Schuck. - Sure. - Probably Ty Simpson. He put up the best tape this year of the other Alabama.

To me, it's gonna come down to Ty Simpson and Garrett Nussmire, Garrett Nussmire from LSU. Both guys, it's gonna be so funny

“and I think this particular thing will be a big factor”

as we talk about this over the next couple of months. Both coaches' sons. So Garrett Nussmire's dad is an offensive coordinator for the Saints right now, so coaches' son. NFL teams love this shit, they just eat it up.

But it is, it does matter, you know what I mean? These guys are prepared for when they're very small children to become quarterback, essentially. And then Ty Simpson's dad has been a long time college coach a UT Martin.

So these both of these guys are, I think, well versed in the professional and technical parts of being a quarterback. The difference, and there's also similarities because both guys were kind of banged up this year.

Garrett Nussmire kind of fell off the map 'cause he was battling nagging injuries. Ty Simpson after starting really strong in the season kind of faded a little bit towards the end of the season or faded a lot towards the end of the season

because he was battling multiple injuries. So I think those are the two guys. And then both are undersized sort of, you know what I mean? Like not high end traits, guys. But just again, coaches' sons that are gonna be,

the guys that can professionally run an offense, like a Kirk cousin, there's something like that. So I think, both of those guys have a chance is probably gonna be Ty Simpson because he played better this year early on

than Nussmire did at all, I think. And so, yeah. - But what do you think the shining trait will be? 'Cause like Drew, you could look at a guy like Drew Aller who's physically gifted, he's got a crazy arm,

he's big, he's like mobile for his size. What does Ty Simpson have that people are gonna, like what's the reason why they will convince themselves that he might be a guy? - Processing, I think, you know what I mean?

Like his ability to quickly go through his reads, find open man, you know, I think just that professional offense where he's coming off of it, you know, he's going in play action, finding his guy, working through his progressions quickly

and finding the open man. I think that's kind of like one of his calling cards and I think people are gonna really like that. He has some really good games. The season where you saw that.

High level processing ability

“and I think that's what teams will probably talk themselves into.”

For me, I'm just a little lower number one, the physical talent I don't think is there in terms of what you typically want to see a position in terms of arm strength, athleticism, all that stuff.

I think things tend to fall apart for him when he's like off schedule and has to throw off platform. But the other thing is man, he only has 15 starts in his college credit. - So that's huge.

- It's worth diving into this 'cause I think Ty Simpson could go anywhere from 13 to the Rams as Matt Stafford's heir

to like the maybe the third round,

depending on what happens and the key is a huge, he's not going to the first round. - First round, first round. - No, you say, you say that, but Tyler Chuck went 40th Jackson Dart

was doing 25th or whatever, like those things happened. So I'm just like, he's like, - What are you saying? - What are you saying? - No, he's going to the Steelers.

- And you're not going to the first round. - He will not go in the first round. - Watch him go in the Steelers. - So I think he will, I kind of think, so here's the retired Simpson.

- So he's not physically gifted, he's an okay processer, he's not impactful. He's not huge and he's only played 15 games. - I would quibble with it. - What would you say you do here?

- No, I would quibble with that. - What? - He's fast, and that's a coach, correct. - Gary, no, I would say, I, how fast.

“- Well, we'll say, why is he gonna run the confines?”

Is he gonna run the 40th at the confine?

You never know with quarterback.

I think he's probably gonna throw. You never know with quarterback's gonna run. I think Ty Simpson, like he is fast. Wouldn't you run it, it depends. Like I don't know.

'Cause sometimes they don't wanna train to, it's a whole thing that goes into it, but I think the quarterbacks are gonna throw. But I think with Ty Simpson, when you watch, I would be helpful.

- It would be helpful. - Well, it's weird, actually, if all the things that coaches wanna see whatever ridiculous event, no, they wanna see him for one person.

If you actually ask coaches with the care about the most, believe it or not, they're like, I gotta see the quarterback throw on person. - Of course, it's the difference that I'm asking you if the quarterback we're debating going in the first round,

we'll either throw or run, and it's like maybe. - Well, that's the most should-or-sanders lesson ever. It's like, I'm not gonna throw. - Yeah. - But the Ty Simpson thing, I think it's worth talking about.

I can't stress enough how much watching the second half

of the cults football season in real time. I was like, this man discussed today. I was so off-put by Ty Simpson. - I think his brain was rezzled. - Yeah.

- The weird, Ty Simpson, like, I think actually his arm is above average. And I think his NFL caliber, I think. - Wow. - And I think he's gonna- - And I fell caliber,

that's the person that Ty Simpson reminds me of in a weird way, and this is a little bit flawed. He's actually at least last season is Sam Darnold. And he does not have Sam Darnold's arm. His arm is a notch below Sam Darnold.

I think he's actually a notch faster than Sam Darnold. But what I mean by that is the first half of the season, if the season just ended on Halloween, I think Ty Simpson would be like a top 10 pick in this year's draft.

Maybe you might go to the Jets for all we know, if the season just ended on Halloween. It was like Sam Darnold in the C-Ox, where it's like pretty solid, but there's some drain dead moments.

The second half of the season, Ty Simpson, looked like Sam Darnold on like the Jets. Like it was a mess and the drawing of the horse.

Like mental errors, like crazy stuff. Frasal this. But I will say, it perfectly aligns to this.

He got hit in the third quarter against South Carolina.

And Ian Hart, it's had a great little snapshot that's like when he got hurt at that point, he had like 20 touchdowns and one pick. And then after he got hurt in the same amount of games, he had like eight touchdowns and four picks.

His completion percentage went from like 70 to 60. Like it was like night and day. And the competition got harder. So it's one of those, we were like, oh, what happened to him?

And it's funny because now that the season ends and they're going to the draft, you actually learn what happened. And you're like, "Late a back injury." Then he got this thing called gastritis.

Gastritis is what happens when you take so much, well, yeah, there you go. But it's anti-inflammatories. It means you're taking so many pain pills or tore it all or pain bloggers

that it actually affects the lining of your stomach. Like, which is the idea of that so much pain he was in with his back. And then he got elbow-brecitis versus Georgia and then he cracked a rib and it blow out

versus Indiana, the couch football quarter final. Oh, let's just say, he got the shit kicked out of him. So I wrote him off. But then learning how fucking hurt Tyson said was, I'm kind of like, maybe the same way I wrote off Bonix.

I'm kind of like, maybe he sucked down the stretch because he got the shit kicked out of him. So I'm interested in Tyson said a little bit. - Okay.

“- Yeah, I mean, I think I'm there with you.”

So this is the problem with the guy who's only had 15 starts though, it's like such a small sample. You said if he had stopped, if they'd stopped the count at Halloween, he would have been a top five. I'm not even the number one quarterback in this class

for a lot of people. But then it would have been like, how many starts do you have under his stomach like crazy? So that's the problem. I think that, you know, with this evaluation,

that's what makes it hard. And I'm open-minded about it as well. I think, you know, I was probably too low on Tyler Schuck last year and I was a lesson that, you know, sometimes you got a great sort of like the high end flashes

and look at that stuff, obviously with the context that he was playing hurt for half of the season and that certainly had an effect. I wish there was a longer track record to see how we'd play over two or three years.

- He's laughing at the dying breed because he's the last quarterback left that you're like, well he's like, oh, I won't leave Alabama. - Yeah, he just made it.

- I've learned 'cause he's like, I want to be the quarterback in Alabama. - Right. - He was a five coach who's gonna love. - Five days in prospect, you know, again.

- Yeah, does it matter to you that he was sitting behind jailing Milro for two years that he couldn't start over jailing Milro for two years? - I think even worse than that is if you tie Simpson went back to Bamm, I don't think he'd play

'cause they have some six foot six Justin Herbert clone freshman quarterback and I think if he went back to Bamm, he might not play which is insane 'cause he's also kind of the consensus number two quarterback.

So that's the thing, and that's overall, it's probably back quarterback class because the number two quarterback in the class might not start if he went back to Alabama.

“- So that's what makes it hard for me too,”

is just, I think he had more than any of the other guys in this class is like a big risk. Obviously there is upside there, but the downside could be pretty tough.

He's a quintessential top of the second round quarterback

just because he's done enough that someone might be like a pithershuck like maybe he wants to do. He did a lot of the line of skrimmage too, protections, all that stuff.

So someone will take him in the top 50 picks and maybe gets bumped up. And then Nussmire, I can save my thoughts for another time, basically he's a coaches son and I'm kind of like, does a lot of dumb stuff

because this is dad's the coordinator for the New Orleans saying something like, he does a lot of dumb stuff. - Like the decision making you don't like. - He was also quite injured, correct?

He got, he also got, yeah, that's another guy who had the season ended and he had some abdominal injury for Garrett Nussmire and then it comes out that he's like, they didn't even know what, he's shutting down at early November

and then they're like, he was like at the senior boys, they didn't even know what was wrong with me until the middle of January, man. So anyway, and again, both of these guys are pretty not really undersized, but relatively undersized.

- Like 6162, yeah, so DK, I'm curious.

“I think the interesting thing with this draft overall”

is all the positions are kind of like this or a lot of the draft is like this. Where the number one player at a position is obvious. It's like the gold medalist at each position is kind of note. Like Fernando Mendoza's the number one quarterback,

but the rest of the podium, it's like five people might be to silver or bronze medalist if who's gonna be the second? Like, we just go down the board here. It's like the, you know, the top two running backs

in this class might both be from Notre Dame, which is weird. There might be four different running backs who could be the number two running back taken. You might have four different tight ends

who could be the number two tight end taken. The Ruben Bay and it's like maybe the second best defensive end in this class and I think 10 teams might not even have Ruben Bay listed as a defensive end on their board and so just, I don't even, what is that even some teams might have

his teammate ranked higher than him? Yeah, I think there's a lot of variance. After you get outside sort of like the consensus top guy

at each position, there's an incredible amount of variance

is what you're getting at. And you know, there's, that tells me the first round is gonna be pretty shocking in a lot of ways. I think there's gonna be a lot of really what feel like how to let field picks

or maybe what no one was expecting because I think there's not gonna be a lot of consensus

And it's also kind of like the top tier is clear

“and then the second tier, it's just kind of like”

what people prefer. And I think that's the thing. It's not, honestly, the more we do, it's not different than fantasy football.

Some people are like, I'll never take safe

hours of my entire life. Some people would rather just have a different kind of player. And like it's like this too. So you think it'll be more best player available than trying to pick the right position

just because the talent is thinner. Like a guy like Caleb Downs, even though he's a safety Michael earlier than you think just because you know he's good. - Yes. - I think there's it's flatter.

So in other words, you know, there's a handful of blue chip type guys and then a lot of players that I think you could see as starters, but not necessarily elite prospects. And so that could, that could be,

well, maybe with the other way, maybe it'll be drafting for position. Then if it's all pretty flat, maybe you just go after the position you need. - Well, that's the other thing is like,

if you look at anyone's board, but like let's pull up DK's board right here. - Yeah, the big ol' board. - And it will drafts out the round our com. He's looking at the bigger people.

- Oh my god, we can't even board. - We call the triangle faster and over here. - Should we call the biggest board? - Big fat board, big fat board. - You know Jack Candy from SNL, right?

He's like a writer, he did deep thoughts with Jack Candy. And then he also had these little, little vignettes called my big thick novel. - Oh, Jack Candy? - Yeah.

- Yes. - Sorry, there's a Jack Candy. You know John Candy? - Yeah. - Well, that would work too, but no, Jack Candy.

- Yeah. - My big thick novel, to me, like that was the funniest thing I ever saw growing up. This is my big thick board. - Oh my, yeah, what was she gonna say?

- Big, the ringer.com is this big thick board. We'll see. - Yeah, you're big, sweaty board. I feel like sometimes like the big board's basically mad and ratings.

We were like, the big board is here's what we would give

these guys as a mad and rating. - Right. - Like, you know, he's a 99, 98, but like if you were doing a mad and draft, you know, which guy's what I have on my team,

you wouldn't necessarily pick a safety who's at 98 over like a quarterback who's at 93, and that's kind of like what you see in the draft, for quarterbacks and left tackles. And this draft is weird,

'cause the highest overall mad and grades, or college triple 25, 26 grades for this, are like running backs in safety as in other positions, and then it's like a little lesser elsewhere. So it's just a weird draft overall.

With that said, I kind of, TK, I kind of wanna ask you,

“I think the, so we're recording this Friday,”

but Monday, I think a lot of these defensive line, or a lot of measurements are gonna come out. And I think we have to talk about everyone's favorite topic, arm length. But after the whole Will Campbell thing,

where Will Campbell went from, you know, the fourth pick in the draft, and then just the playoffs, just had one of the probably more infamous runs an offensive line, and we'll ever have, and a playoffs, because he made the soup ball,

and then one of the worst offensive line, I mean, he had one of those pressure on all playoffs. - Yeah. - So, there are definitely gonna be a couple guys, I think in this draft specifically,

maybe this is happening as you're listening to this, which is Ruben Bayan, the past Russia for Miami, is kind of probably gonna be the Will Campbell of this year. Before I get into Ruben Bayan, DKM, I'm curious, what do you think the takeaways are

for Will Campbell?

And again, basically, the prologue here is incredible player.

Will Campbell is amazing as a freshman LSU. He was like an all world college football player. But he had the shortest arms of any left tackle in the NFL, and shorter than most right tackles in the NFL, and then he was awful in the playoffs,

and you could kind of see the arm thing. - Yeah. This is a classic example of why teams are scared to bet on the outliers. I think the jury should still be out of Will Campbell.

He was playing injury, he had knee injury, which is obviously a massive thing. And, you know, what I've seen from a lot of really smart offensive line experts is like, it was not necessarily the length of his arms.

That was his issue, was more his footwork, something that's coachable. So I wouldn't like completely close the book on Will Campbell. There's some people that think he might need to move to guard because of that issue that he was having.

But he is an example, a classic example of an outlier. Like you said, he had the shortest arms for any left tackle or whatever in the combine history. - Will he be starting left tackle? - The starting left tackle will be less to your think.

- And you was a top five pick, you know, I mean, that's scary for some teams.

“That's why they have requirements or like benchmarks”

for arm length, certain tests in terms of the speed and agility. There's some teams that just take guys off their board if they don't meet these benchmark requirements. - Yeah, it's like a hinge profile, you know,

you set your height limit, and that's what it is. - You set your arm length limit. - Do you think that's five fine ads? (laughing) - It's financed, just like it's combined.

- Six, five fine ads, trust fund. Blue eyes, that's their draft board rate. (laughing) - Do you care about arm length more for a pass rush or a tackle?

Where does it matter more? Or is it even? - I think my initial reaction was probably for a tackle

at a disadvantage, athletically, the ad pressures and the NFL, these days are just absolutely explosive. It's like the best athletes on the field potentially. They're big, strong, very explosive.

And offensive tackles on the other hand are relative lumbering oafs, you know what I mean? Like if you're not gonna be playing tackle, you're gonna be brushing your words, not mine. I hope we run into Will Campbell's relative,

relative lumbering oafs. These guys in your credit athletes, obviously, in their own right, but we should go to the podium and see the offensive limit immediately. So relatively, you're like a lumbering oaf.

I mean, when you agree, the best act,

“like, I think left tackles that look like miles of Garrett.”

- They're less athletic than the defensive ends, but they're pretty athletic. - Yeah, yeah, that's essentially what I said. They're relative lumbering oafs. - You think you could do their job?

(laughing) - They shouldn't have tackles the guard and you could go back. - I mean, I would look, I would get murdered out there, but yeah. - No, you'd be fine, I'd be fine, yeah.

God, I'd be fine. - It's so funny to see like what they would do to me and just like drop me on my head or something, I don't, I can't even imagine. - We should bring lockers to the combine

and let them shove us in markers. That should be a drill. - They would do like WWE moves up there. - Oh my God, did we just fix the pro bowl in the combine? All the players will participate again

if you could shove journalists and lockers. - You know what? - The main move where you like drops Batman on his knee and just breaks his neck or breaks his back, that would be like what?

- Yeah, what's the undertakers at the tombstone? What does he do? (laughing) Pile driver whenever he comes home. - What were you talking about?

Oh, so the arm length thing, and this is gonna be, look, I don't think we need to close the book on Will Campbell.

“I think he still got opportunity to be a really good player here.”

But this is why we talk about it. It's like a true, okay, now the arm length is kind of fucked up. Now the textures are kind of fucked up situation where you're like, oh, now I realize why we were talking about this because it does matter sometimes.

- And it wasn't a problem when he was healthy. I think what it is is that when you have any kind of physical limitation, whether it's height, like your-- - It's confirmation bias.

- Yeah. - Well, that's not just confirmation bias. - But it's a game of adventures too. - Yes. - Well, you know, huh? - Literally.

- It's not talking about inches. Couple inches can make a difference but it's not everything in the world. But like one inch can make a difference. Let's be honest.

- Wow, let's, you know, it's not everything. - But like I think the, when you have a physical limitation in an elite sport and then you like get hurt, like you basically, if you have short arms, you're the shortest arms

on any left deck in the NFL. You have other things, athleticists are making up for it. When you hurt your knee, margin for error. And the thing that no one mentions with this World Campbell thing which makes me furious

is like he was on injured reserve. He's a 22 year old kid who is out for five weeks with a knee issue. So then you come back when you don't have the athleticism that made up for it.

Now you're just a less athletic version of you and you have the shortest arms.

So it's like now that always comes up.

It's like Isaiah Thomas when he's on the Celtics. Where it's like how is this five foot nine guy scoring 25 points of game in the NBA? It's like well, then he's this hip issue like, oh, when you lose like 4% of your athleticism,

now you're fucking five foot nine and you're not special in where you can't do it.

“And I think that's what happened to Will Campbell”

is it was this leg not exposing the arm. With that said, DK, I'm going to go out in a limb and say in a film wrong, I'm wrong. I think Ruben Bane from Miami, who again was one of the best defenders in all college football.

In fact, I actually want Craig to read from DK's draft where I want Craig to read some of the positives that DK has in Ruben Bane like the pros. It's so funny. Hi intensity edge defender, relentless motor,

ferocious demeanor, second most quarterback pressures in the country, lives in the backfield, got that dog in him and rushes the pastor with overwhelming zeal. He's a fanatic.

There are moments watching Ruben Bane where I'm like, I've seen enough. This guy has it.

Everything about him is incredible,

but there's just one problem happy is I think today he probably will like Monday. We're recording this Friday. He probably has arms under 32 inches and there are. Can you remind everybody who's close to 31?

What is the line where people start to get upset about an arm length? It is funny enough. Well, first of all, I don't know how they measure, 'cause I went to get my wedding stuff this week

and I got measured at 34 in Charms. I think it's a little way to get out there and play tackle. I have longer arms than we'll tackle according than we'll Campbell according to the tailor. Yeah.

So there is, so do they measure from like the top of the shoulder out? How do they do it? You're the family guy. It's like I just side with the basis this time.

But so again, I think the funniest thing ever is arms, it's like how long is an arm anyway. The meat, the meat, the meat and the 50th percentile for defensive ends 33 and a half. But the important part is that Aiden Hutchinson,

who the whole reason he like didn't go first of all

that year for a straight-run walker was Aiden Hutchinson's arms were in the seventh percentile, seventh percent that of 100. And his were 32.

are with 31 inches, which sounds, who gives a flock, like 33 and a first is 31. I love that there are rumors about his arm. - rumors about the arm. - That's an inch.

- But the problem is that that would be

in the second percentile for all NFL defensive ends and ever at the combine, second out of 100. - Yeah, it's an outlier. - Yes. And some teams literally just, it's their hinge proof.

And this is why it's not, it's not so stupid. But what Craig said about the hinge thing, that is literally how teams do it. They set their little six, I won't talk to anyone guy over six feet, under six feet tall.

They're like, we won't draft a defensive end under 31 inches. And then they have to sit and they have a fucking meeting about whether they'll change their fucking hinge settings for Ruben Bay and an only Ruben Bay. - How much better is Ruben Bay

than the other past pressures in this draft? - That's a good question.

“I think there's some other very good past pressures in this class.”

I think David Bailey, I've actually got David Bailey once bought a bubble, my David Bailey very different stylistically, he's not. Ruben Bay is just a, you know, power packed, muscular ball of energy as a Russia, David Bailey, a little bit,

leaner, more explosive off the edge, more speed. So I think there's, there are different kind of pressure and it just depends on what you're looking for. But I have to bring the little higher. There's gonna be teams that have a key,

messador from Miami, Ruben Bay and team mate, ranked higher potentially, because I don't think there's as many worries about the length for him. And he's also an extremely, you could replace all the positives I said about vain and just put them in messadors,

scatter your poor and no one will badmide because it's like the same stuff, he's super high energy, just destructive force, that sounded like I was sorry, just a destructive force on the defensive line, he's just a madman out there.

- When you're a cop for messador, as Jim Carrey and the cable guy, right? - So that's either him playing basketball, where he goes and dunks and breaks the rim, or when he's at medieval times and he just kills

absolutely bizarre. So, but yeah, I mean, he's out, he's, he's just really fun to watch as well. So some teams might like him more, but he's also older. - He's 25, right?

- So that's a big question, 25 for the draft. - Dude, messador for Miami is older than Will Anderson's Jr. on the Texas. - So I feel like, you know, now that a lot of these bone-next types have come in and we're changing our opinion

on the age, that's at the quarterback position where experience is maybe even more value. Do you, does it matter to you? At being a 25-year-old edgerust, you're like, "Messador, are you like, "Oh, he's got more experience

"or could you care less about that?" You'd rather than just be 21 in a freak.

“- I think it, you would rather having to be younger”

because then the development arc is still there. Like you could still get a lot better in theory. This is like kind of the way that teams look at it. Whereas if you're 25 years old,

it's the old Mitch Hebberg joke that I always use.

I wish I could go back to Little League now. I'd kick some fucking ass. It's like, this guy is more mature developmentally in terms of experience. His body, his, whatever, strength.

So he's going up against 18, 19-year-olds. It's 25-year-old. - It's a little crazy. - It's a little crazy. - But it's a little crazy. But that doesn't mean he's not going to be good in the NFL.

And he's like 25% older than some of the guys you've been talking. - Fucking, it's a little nuts. Especially when you can tell the thing that you always say about the age difference that we have. I'm 12 years older, but I've been adult for twice a year.

- Well, 'cause it goes the end. - If it's a 24-year-old against a 19-year-old, that means it's a 19-year-old versus a 15-year-old. - Yeah, it's like a cross and back. And then the Malachi Tony and Miami,

it's like when Carson Beck and Rold in college, Malachi Tony

“was like nine years older, so I don't need to do that.”

- And it's like 12, 11.

But it is like that where the thing I always say with DK,

when we were talking about life-advice and DK is like, oh, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm like, no, you do. Because DK in theory is 12 years older than it. I'm like, I'm worth 30, I guess with 31 almost,

and DK you're 43, yeah. But the difference is, DK's been an adult for twice as long, literally twice as long. So like, he's the graduate college. You were eligible to fight for a 9/11,

Craig and I were in first or second grade, and you were old enough to go to war. So it's like, it matters. And it's funny to think about mess it door. We're on one hand, I'm like, you know what?

This is just the new world that I got to get used to it. It's like all these things in college football or weird, college sports or weird. You have Duke basketball players going to be why you have like quarterbacks turning down

fucking Alabama to go to Vanderbilt. And one of the things is, guess what, Indiana, who won the National Championship, the average age of the team was over 23 years old, or at least for the starters.

And the average age of the packers was like 25. And that's just how it is now. It's professional. And that's the door's 25 and like all right, I guess that means it's a pro.

The flip side is, I do wonder where I'm like, yeah, he's 25, like, I don't know, I guess it's like, it's not like a Kenny Pickett thing where it's like, if you don't have excellent traits and it took you that long to beat up younger kids,

you're just Billy Madison playing dodgeball. Now you're on the beat. - You just take trouble. But I don't know, the truth is, I don't know what to make it this.

He's a six year senior.

- This is, yeah, and again, it all just goes back to,

and this is the point of the combine for a lot of teams. Other than the medical and the interviews, we're establishing benchmarks for these guys. And the athletic benchmarks, some teams just refuse to go below either the physical

or athletic benchmarks. And with the 25-year-old guy, the track record for 25-year-old past wrestlers coming into the NFL is just not very good. You know what I mean? - Yeah.

- Because most of the time, if you're a 22-year-old past wrestler and you're really good, you're going to the NFL. Usually, you know what I mean? Like, there's not a lot of really good 25-year-old past wrestlers

because it takes them a long time to get to that point. But that being said, I love a team that's at all, honestly. I would take a risk on him because he's an absolute maniac out there and he-- - Was he not good two years ago? - Well, last year, like, what did he have a huge,

like a way better year? - What's your than usual? - I wouldn't say he broke out out of nowhere. You know what I mean? Like, can he pick a South thing where he's like, "Okay, okay, okay."

And then put up incredible numbers in his final year. - Yeah. - It was sort of more step up, step up, step up, but yeah. I mean, that is a legitimate question to ask. And he played for Miami for a few years.

So it wasn't like two years at West Virginia and then four years at Miami, which is just four years at Miami. So, I don't know, these are the impossible questions to ask, but he's an outlier because of that.

“- And I think the key point though is what you see”

on the television for the combat and that's the suit of you watch the combat, which is the draft show and you don't have to. If you don't want to be honest for going to be honest with you. But the big stuff gets all the attention

and we'll probably talk about it next week too, where it's like, "Oh, the fastest people is stuff."

The truth is what the teams look at more

and what the testing's for is what D.K. said, which is the baselines. You, it's way more important, they want to know, 'cause it's not like, - I try to eliminate players from their board

and they're trying to figure who's not tall enough to get in the roller coaster. They're trying to be like, "If the truth is a stupid as it sounds, if your arms not long enough, then you're not gonna be on our board." Like, if you're this or that, they have like minimum thresholds

is what they're doing. They're trying to eliminate people from their inch bowl. That really is what they're doing with the testing, which is fucking nuts, but this is what they're looking at. - Is there a specific player D.K.

that you're most interested to see how they test, is there any measurement or metric that you're most curious about?

“- I mean, I think the main thing is gonna be interesting.”

I don't think it's like a maker break thing in terms of how long his arms are. I would say just like, I'm excited to see if any of the receivers are gonna run. I would like to see how fast Carnal Tades

if you run's really fast. I think that's gonna be another checkbox. - Well, you still value that. Him running without a football, no pads, in an enapolis, like that's still makes a difference to you.

Not dramatically, no. I think, and that is kind of the idea what the combine is. It's a pass fail grade. If a guy is just straight up slow,

that might make you pause and take him off your board. Doesn't have quote unquote NFL speed or NFL size. I think that's kind of an issue. But at the same time, you do kind of, this is what happens is human nature.

You fall for the guys that are really, really explosive, right? And if they run a four, three, that makes you go, maybe I didn't see that, you know,

the first time I've got to go back and watch what I'm rewatched,

what I was looking at before. - Another thing that's happening too, which is, I think the 40-yard dash matters a lot less too, because now teams are able to track players speed and games, where there's more tracking data in college football.

I don't want to pretend to understand all the rules involved with all the different tracking, but they also, they can do is, they're getting a little more accurate with just taking game tape and having AI figure out how fast people are going.

Just based on the framerals, that's crazy. - That's way more valuable. - Yes, because-- - It's definitely more valuable. - If you think about it, a good example is probably Matthew Golden, from last year at the Texas, who's really fast player.

There's no doubt Matthew Golden's fast, but then he runs a 40-yard dash. Here's to the Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden's mom was like a, like, college champion sprinter or something, like a track athlete.

And I think his aunt was too. So when you have guys who have like perfect track form, yeah, suddenly getting out of the blocks is really important to your 40-yard dash and it doesn't fucking matter in football.

It's matter how fast you play when pads,

“and so that's how the Ramson Pooka Nicole,”

among other things, is 40, like it wasn't that fast. But his game speedy plays fast because it, which is nuanced, but it matters how fast you play if it doesn't translate. And so that is also something where,

and then additional the testings weird because agents are like, why would I have my guys, now that it's normalized to not do everything? Why would I have my guys do anything they're bad at? So instead of fuck doing eight things,

you're gonna do these one to three things and you do more if you're like a lesser prospect. But you're gonna only train for those three, so you're gonna get really good at it. So it's not even the historical stuff

as any of it's good, because it's self-selecting. This is why there's more relative athletic scores that are good now because guys aren't doing anything they're bad at. Because why would you use pull out of the event

and pretend you pull your answer? - I mean, I think it's great to answer your question, and I was gonna try and pull up Nick Kevin Warriors numbers.

that I take away from the combine is sometimes, guys have just absolutely freakish testing numbers. And that to me is like, when it's more than one test, this guy is just a rare, rare athlete

“and that's what Nick Kevin Warriors was.”

I mean, he was like, "Broad jump, vertical jump, 40." I can't remember exactly what all of him was.

Well, all of the numbers were, but he was basically

the most athletic safety we've ever seen at the combine. If you kind of like make a total, I think it's the relative athletic score. Like he was like one on the top, 99% top. That kind of thing does matter, I think to me,

because it is a game where speed and explosiveness and size matter. And so yeah, that kind of stuff like does peak my interest for the most part though, if you just look at one or two tests and he did really well this or did really well that,

it's not gonna move the needle a whole lot. It's more like the opposite. If he did really, really slow, then you kind of start to doubt it'll work. And again, the order is teams want to know the medicals

and then teams want to interview players for their site profile, but also they want to pull up tape where they have questions and be like, what's your deal here? And then the testing is just kind of like the third thing

for the order that they give it to fans. It's testing and then it's the interview stuff comes out and then the medical stuff doesn't really come out at all.

So, all right, with that said,

I wanna get into some important draft analysis here. I wanna play a game. Craig, you don't know what we're doing this. - Great. - I call it defensive and yuendo.

- Okay. - And Craig, we're gonna, we're gonna, again, yuendo. - Yeah, we'll defensive and you, oh I see, okay. 'Cause we're running out of jargons for two jargons in a lie. So, I wanna pile it potential new versions

to two jargons in a lie. So, instead of two jargons in a lie, which for new listeners, this is what we do during draft, we just draft, there's a lot of draft jargons.

I, we're gonna do something called,

“why I'm gonna, Craig, I'm gonna read you a sentence, okay?”

And I want you to tell me of this is a description of a player that Danny Kelly wrote for a defensive end in this year's draft, or if it is a description of Zade and Ryerson, who's the one of the main characters in fourth wing, which is a romanicy novel

by Rebecca Yarros. - So, it's Lady Smut. - Lady Smut. - Is it defensive end description? Draft Prospect description, or Lady Smut description.

- Okay, is that the thing? - And I want you to get him. - Lady Smut, I don't know. - I don't know. - I like that. - I don't think any women listening would be upset

by that thing. - What's the name of the book? - Fourth wing. - Fourth wing. - Fourth wing. - It was like the number one selling book or two years ago.

- Did you read it? - Yes, I did, Jackie wrote it. It's great. - Yes, it did. - It's like, if the air force is like having a car out of a car.

- Yes, I did Jackie read it. Did you read it? - Yes, it did. - Okay. - Okay, I did.

- Fourth wing. - So you listened to it on book on tape, or you read the actual book. - You read the book. - You read the book. - Good question, I read it. - You read the book. - I read the book.

- Was it good? - Did you enjoy it? - Yes. - It's good. - I bet you did. - What'd you like about it? The clips, the plot.

- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well, read it for the plot. - It's like they watch, you read it for the articles. - It doesn't have a good one. - Okay, go ahead, I'm ready.

- All right, so again, we're playing here. Is this something Danny Kelly used to describe a defensive end in this year's draft or is it a fantasy smut? - A book on fourth wing.

- All right, ruggedly built high energy, overwhelms with brute force, but as a aggressive nature can be a double inch sword. - Okay. - D.K. (laughs)

- Yeah, that's correct. - Yeah, that is correct. Yeah, that's actually a key mess of door. The guy reached off. (laughs)

Slimmer than ideal build and light in the pants. - Once again, D.K, I guess. - That's true, that's David Bailey,

who's probably the first defensive end this year.

- Well, light in the pants. - Light in the pants. - D.K, can you tell us what that means? Not enough leg muscles? - Yeah, 'cause it's pushed off the line.

“Just say that, where are you gonna say light in the pants?”

- All right, I don't know. - 'Cause I like to make it a little spicy, that's a light in the pants. - Heat uncoils and alternates between bending inside or going straight

with bulldozer like power. I'm gonna go with D.K. (laughs) - Yeah, that is chase young from Ohio State. - I don't know, I don't know.

- Okay, thought uncoiling would get you. - I've been writing Lady Smut this whole week. (laughs) - And if I draft this just Lady Smut for men, oh, anything is, I literally,

I if it's brand this by me before the show, just to see if I thought it was funny, and I was like, hell yeah, but I also kind of have laid off on the physical descriptions a little bit this year, because I was like, I felt like a creep when I'm doing it.

(laughs) - All right, massive chest with wide shoulders and heavily muscle dorms. - Uh, Becky, Becky Yaros. - Yes, that is that is, I was relieved to hear that was it.

- Yeah, you're like, I was at me. (laughs) - A barrel-chested brawler who creates havoc

- D.K. - Yeah. (laughs)

- It's Peter Woods, Clemsup.

- Peter Woods. - Body-homes like a weapon, all sharp lines, barely leashed power, accentuates every punch. D.K. That is some fourth way.

(laughs) - Kelly, can you read that again? - Body-homes like a weapon, all sharp lines, barely leashed power, accentuates every punch. - Ooh, what character is that?

- I have it, I have to say it in Ryerson. - Who is that? - He's like the, who's playing that guy in the movie? He's like the Lizonagaib if Timothy Shalame looked like the guy who plays Jacob from Twilight.

- Taylor Lotner. - If, if Timothy Shalame looked like Taylor Lotner, he's, or sure, Henry Caval. He's kind of like different. - He's like a red bet rebel.

I don't fucking know. - He's just got a leader of the, - He's not Cavalier. - He's not Cavalier. - I fucking specimen.

- Yeah. - You know what?

I love that story about Henry Caval in the mustache

with the Superman. - Oh yeah, man.

“- We need to tell that, that's the best way.”

- No, I don't know this one. - Oh my God. - It was one he did mission impossible, right? Then AI, or they like that is CGI out his mustache. - There was some contract, what are the two studios

who was mission impossible to Superman at the same time at one of the studios just, yeah. Had the contractual right to his facial hair? - Right, so he had to keep the mustache because he was doing, on his shoots.

- Probably, yeah, and there was probably mission where he had to keep the mustache, but then this, if they had to CGI out his mustache, filming Superman. - My, my favorite thing about the Henry Caval,

Laura, whatever is, you guys did see it in, it was in fallout. Can he, when he cocks his hands or he cocks his fists before he's fighting, he like, he's, he's like, about to fight and he goes like in like cocks him.

- Yeah.

- He's ready to, like, like that, like, 1920s blocks his stance,

like a really high. - And I guess it was like not in the script, or anything, he just, he just felt it in the moment and he was pretty awesome, but it is, it does look. - I love that in the movie Tag,

they had to CGI, Jeremy Renner's hands because he broke both of them, which is. - Wow. - He just had fake hands in the movie. Like, he's got CGI hands, he's got like seven fingers.

- It's like, when A, A, I can't do hands. - Sorry, A, I can't do hands. - Well, P, no one could do hands. - What do you mean? - P, can't do hands either.

No one can draw hands. That's where no animated show is. - I think you're starting to know it. - I think you're starting to know it. - Yeah, the Simpsons family guy, big mouth,

any animated show, it's like they're like, yeah, we'll do like three. - I even think in Avatar, I think they only had the Navi, I think they only have three fingers in a thumb. - Can someone email it, ring your fancy,

a couple of jimmers of the comics explain why can't you draw hands? - It is weird. - They're have four, correct? - You're right. - Yeah, right, I'm sure. - This goes back to my theory about why you don't,

you feel weird talking to people if you don't have singing your hand is I think that the core is like, we still think hands are weird. Like millions of years old, we're still think we're supposed to be on a floors.

Like it's weird that we're standing up, we don't know to do their hands. Like literally it's DP or DNA.

“And part of that is I think that's why it's the thing”

with people are on psychedelic drugs. It's like, don't look at your hands. It'll freak you out. That's like a thing you will say. If you ever take acid or anything,

what people say is, don't look at your hands. And you're like, why? You're like, just don't. - Interesting. I get that.

- I have an experience similar to that, yeah. - Yeah. - Also, I want to get it right. He only broke one arm, not to trigger an error. So they only see G1 arm, not both.

- That's what a person's job is just your adding hand. You're adding Jeremy Reynolds. You're just like, you're like, yeah, frame by frame, pixel by pixel filling in his hand. - Okay, keep going.

- Oh, you want more, okay, I do have more, okay. - Merseless willing to annihilate anyone and everyone who stands in his path. Oh, this is close, this could be either right. - I don't know the answer to that.

- I'm gonna go with DK. That is Zade Ryerson, that is fourth wing. - Zade is same guy. - Yeah. - Okay, this guy's a role.

- He's gonna get a good defense of it. - Employees a hump move. Employees a hump move? - Employees a hump move. DK, do you know the answer to this?

- Yeah.

“- I'm gonna say you wrote that, you little freak.”

(laughs) - Yeah, Reggie White right there, hump move. - Cash is howl, who is also another will gamble, who probably on Monday probably measured like 30 in Sharms.

- Scouting terms are extremely sexual. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, there's no, I don't know why you gotta have your mind in the gutter about it.

Just defensive ends, pass rushers, you just gotta like, ban a penetrate finish, use a hump move to ban penetrate finish and it's all about you get off.

I don't know why that has to be sexual. I don't, you know. - Okay, a couple of those if get off. - Explosive get off, all right. We're gonna beat the combine all this week.

And then we'll have like a recap

when all the drills are done over the weekend. You know, it's going all the code, there's like 26 GMs doing podiums. And you know, I think 20 or so coaches so we'll go and we'll just buy a chat.

- I don't think I'll do it. - Somewhere just like fuck it. I don't wanna. - I remember like Bellachek just refused to go. - Well, yeah, I just tried.

- Correct.

“- I, I, I think we should stay away from Angie Barry,”

the energy vampire. Do you have any other serious things about the draft? Or can I tell you some other dumb stuff? - We have time to do serious stuff about the draft. - Oh, okay, yeah.

- I have to tell you something really important. I discovered today and I'm sorry I haven't known this before and I apologize. But there's a player in this draft from University of Cincinnati to defensive tackle.

His name is Dante Corlioni. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Wow. - Don Corlioni, he's an actual player in this draft.

- Oh, that's good. - Dante, is it Corlioni or Corlioni? - Well, Corlioni, well, Corlioni. - Well, it's how he actually... - I think it's like Corlioni.

- It's the same spelling as the word. - Don Corlioni is literally a player in this draft. I mean, his nickname according to Wikipedia is the Godfather. - Yes.

- How could it not be the same right there?

- And now even a weirder is there was always

the player in this draft named Chris De Apolonia.

“Like his wife's name in the movie is Apolonia, right?”

- Well, Michael's wife. - Well, when he goes to Italy, yes, he meets Apolonia. - Apolonia. He transferred to Syracuse instead of going to the draft. But there was almost a fucking Dante Corlioni

and an Apolonia in this fucking draft. - Which you're looking at, but it's weird. - And we have a sunny splash on. - We have a, we have a, we have a look at the trash. - We're very close.

We need a cake, we need a Tom Hagen. - Yeah, we're close. - We have a sunny, just to be cast the gong. - We thought we were the Tom Hagen. - Is our Tom Hagen in the draft?

- All right, P. - I know. - Robert Duval. - Can I read you guys some emails? - Yeah.

- I have an email from last year explaining why we ended up calling it combine instead of combine. Do you guys want to know the answer who cares? - Yeah, I do. - So Tom has wrote this last school definition

of why we said, combine. - So there's a reason, the handful of combines pronounced combine, 'cause we're like, they combine events, just called. - Well, the word combine is a verb,

but it's weird to call something a verb. - A verb. - A verb. - And all English speakers kind of intuitively know this, but very few people could explain that as the answer,

but that is the reason. - It's kind of an answer, Joe. - There's also a whole order of the way you talk about you describe things. Like the way you describe a really big ugly,

fat, green, frog or whatever. Like it's weird if you're like green, fat, ugly, big frog. Like there's a certain order and all English speakers kind of just know the order, but no one could explain it, but like people learning.

- English doesn't have a full-learned nightmare. - It's a nightmare. - It's a fucking nightmare. - The word nightmare is a G. Pretty easy for me, but yeah.

“- I think you're the only one that can talk in this.”

- Nobody can understand a word this guy's saying. - Nobody. - Oh my god, wait, I have to go. - Wait, I didn't tell you guys this. - Guys, speaking another language, what the hell is he saying?

(laughing) So it's like this guy's speaking fucking Spanish, I can't understand that. - That's so good. - So we were talking in the last episode

about that, like names you probably wouldn't want to be named anymore. - Oh, it started, because RIP just sunny jargonson, the quarterback of past, we went to his Wikipedia, it turns out sunny jargonson's middle name was Adolf. - Difference spelling.

- Difference. - Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like - Like like, like, like this, like you're 60 years old, you're talking, like, "Hitler, no, different spelling." - Difference spelling. - Difference spelling. - Difference spelling. - Difference spelling. - Difference spelling. - Difference spelling. - If you've read Minecraft a couple times, couple times. - Yeah, I'm so excited to say you didn't get on the first read. - Some of you missed there. - Shocking the tail. - I skimmed it. - Skimmed it. - Okay. Okay, just check, just check. Oh, my God, that is so good.

- So we were talking about names, you might not want anymore. - It matters when you name, like, they named sunny jargonson Adolf in like, 1930. - Six, what was it? - 1994. - Like right at the height of the cut. - Right around, yeah. - Right at the cut. - It was his right. - Dice.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Little Reichstag, fiery, somewhere in there. So anyway, we talk about what other names. So there's clothes, calls, people have had with names. And a lot of people you milled this in, shout out to Rich,

but a lot of people sent this in that Arbjom. John the Laney did this fucking bid on SNL,

she was amazing about the real New York Councilman running.

- Oh yeah. - New York Council named Harvey Epstein. - I remember. - Oh. - John the Laney made a kid fade commercial for this guy. Did Harvey Epstein, he's like, "I am in no way related to either Harvey nor I'm stealing."

It would make no sense for me to be related to either of them. That doesn't make any sense, it's so good. And they're like, and they're having a playground. He's like, "I'm gonna make this place for the schools. I love children."

And his kid thinks that's like, "Don't fucking say that." He's like, "Not like that." It's incredible. But it's a real guy, that's good. It's an incredible belaty, but a highly recommend it.

There's two good ones. Well, one is, this one's from Sam. - Sam A! - Sam writes, "What's up guys? Breakfast was overnight oats with a banana granola

and a cup of coffee." - I love overnight oats too. - Too healthy. - Yeah. One day if you get me drunk, I'll tell you about overnight oats. - What's overnight oats? - I don't know what that is.

- Really? - No. I think actually, Skiffy eats it, but I don't actually know what it is.

Basically, you put oats in milk and fruit,

or whatever, in a little jar, and let it sit overnight, so the oats soak up the milk, and it turns into like a nice little yogurty thing in the morning. That sounds pretty good, actually.

- Okay. - I have to say, I guess something. - That's right. - This is an own goal, but it's funny. So I'll do it for the show.

- I'm gonna admit something. - And I mean, is it gonna regret this? - Okay. - I'm probably gonna regret it. - So, where's this?

- One of the people I used to work for here at the ring or was Craig Gaines, who was the head of the copy desk here at the ring or for the website. And I was an editorial intern, I was like a fact checker, so I was like right before COVID,

like I was in that office with Craig Gaines a lot.

And Craig, we were always talk.

And he was telling me that he's breakfast, I think at the commissary, Craig,

“if you remember, they used to sell overnight oats and oats.”

So we were talking about that, I was trying to eat healthier breakfast, blah, blah. So Craig started telling me about overnight oats and stuff. And this was kind of the last conversation I had in March, 2020 before we all scattered it for a win.

So then I end up like, you know, I'm like, oh, give this, I just like home. And I'm away and I just remember Craig sing overnight oats and explaining it. So I did not enough research, a little,

but sometimes a little research is worse than not at all. Okay. And I did just enough. So I thought what overnight oats was, you make oatmeal at night and you let it sit.

And so I would make oatmeal and just fucking come back to it and eat it 12 hours later. And I did that for a week. And that is what I would feed in March, 2020. Yes, literal doc.

I was like, oh, it's hard to get home. It's like healthy and so it's hard boiling water on oats and then just let him sit there for 12 hours. And I ate it. I thought I was over night oats.

How was it? It's like just porridge. It must not have been bad for you to stick with it. So here's the problem. He's like, why does everybody like this?

Here's the problem. I mean, you can't say that. It was disaster. You would have bailed my dad loved it. (laughing)

So he was like, this is good.

“You should, my dad been telling me to oatmeal forever.”

This is great. And so I thought I was good at it. So I tried to make if I am good people. And then my friends, we're like, what is wrong with you? - It's like the peasant mushy stuff.

- It's the food they eat on the matrix in the ship. (laughing) - What life is it? - It's like Facebook. We got to do a prompt like this where it's like you thought you're doing something right and it was fairly not.

- Especially with cooking, but for anything, anything where you like, for me, I would say a week is due, it's probably fucking two weeks, but it's probably why I probably had a cherry cheery duty over fucking Justin Jefferson, you know me in John L. I don't know. - Right to the brain. - Email us their finger fantasy football.gmail.com.

If you have, if that reminded you of anything that you did or your friends did, anyway, all that. This is why we do breakfast stories. - Yeah. - Thank you for that breakfast. - Heaven you've got to Sam Rights.

Hi Fitz mention, or you guys were talking about one of the unusable names that I was like, "Oh, Jay." (laughing) - Right, so Sam Rights, my last name starts with a W, and my dad really wanted my initials to be wow.

Okay, I was born in like, end of 1993, so like, you know, seven months or whatever, six months before the O.J. Simpson murders, allegedly. He's dead, so I guess it doesn't matter. Morely, but also legally. So Sam Rights, the runner up for my name, like the top two names my parents were thinking

about the hospital, was Wesley or Enthall. - Wow. - And Enthall's the O and O.J., right? - Yeah, middle name though, you can survive. - Get away with it.

But imagine learning like your husband's middle name is Or Enthall. - So, but this kid's name is Sam, so they didn't go with it. - No, they didn't give him a double name. - They beat him. (laughing)

- The other one, I love this story.

- Brooke, did I ever tell you guys that I found a report that I made in like first grade

about how great O.J. Simpson was as a running back. Like, did this whole book on it, and then I found it where I was like, "Oh, Jesus Christ." - It's all right. - Yeah, that did me, it's what do you do? - Yeah.

- No, you're canceled. - Yeah, I mean, I'm holding that right. - You should have known. - I'm holding enough to have written that as a kid. - That's, that's actually what?

- That's the difference in our age. - Yes.

“- One month, the car changes over the summer, right?”

- It was June, there was a 30 for 30 on it 'cause it's like the same day was like the Rangers won the Stanley Cup and like there was a ton of sports happening that day. - Was it June '94? - Yeah, June something. - So I wasn't alive yet.

- June 17th, '94. - Yeah. - I was not alive. - June 17th, yeah, 'cause it's like the NBA finals around the Stanley Cup was on, and then they're like, "Oh, about all that."

- Still remember that? - Oh, yeah, Arnold Palmer won the fucking, he wants him to, like the Masters, I guess not the Masters. - Some golf, he's crazy today.

- You know, we always joke about, oh, like younger kids when they hear the name

Paul Newman, they think that's a salad dressing guy.

“- But the number one example of that has to be Arnold Palmer, right?”

- Yeah, he's just a dream. - He's just a dream. - They're like, wait, he won tournaments by golf. - He won how many? - He's a golfer?

Why is the drink guy getting a T-O first at the Masters? - Like, I would wager that 99% of people under 25 years old think that Arnold Palmer had no idea that man played golf. - Dude, it's so true. It's like Seth Rogan is just gonna be known one day

as the guy who's faces on all these little weed grinders. You know what I mean? He was an actor, he's gonna be 85 years old, he's gonna be a fucking weed, he's gonna be a weed titan. - And we didn't have a set of the town that we pre-taped.

It'll come out in a couple of weeks, so I won't say who the guest is, but the guest was in their 30s. And they were talking about who Matt was or whatever, and the person we had honest is somewhat famous,

and they were talking about how famous each other were. Matt was like, well, you probably, people your age probably don't know me, and she's like, of course I know you. You're the guy from the studio,

(laughing) but she was like, oh, this is a perfect encapsulation of, like, not the town, not his writing,

“but you look like I've also, Craig won't plug it,”

but if you like anything about Hollywood, Craig also produces the town with Matthew Bellany,

which is an amazing show in Craig is too humble,

but they literally had Ted Serando's on last week, and a really cool episode for 40 minutes in Ted Serando's, that had if Netflix defended Netflix's $80 billion purchase of Warner Brothers and the whole deal, and everything happening there.

And that was like, we had to move our schedule around it, and Craig was like, hey guys, do you mind? - And it was like, and he said, he could say, tell Ted to wait, yeah. And I said, Ted, content to make for Ted's company.

- I want to tell him, I was like, Ted, you realize that you coming on means the ringer fantasy football show is gonna go up eight hours later on Netflix. Is that cool with you? And he was like, ah, he thought about it, he's like, okay,

it's fine. But yeah, look at that episode. - The Craig gets out there, Craig is also on most of the episodes doing the last part of it. - And that's true.

We also today, if you're listening on Monday, we have an episode come out with the head of Sony Pictures, also fantastic, Tom Rothman, really smart, interesting guy. - It's a, yeah, listen to the town, it's good. We have another email from here from Nick,

“sorry, to get to important business here.”

We have an email from Nick. - Nicky, and bone. Breakfast this morning, wow, wow, I didn't read the breakfast that you kind of skipped over it. Two Reese's Valentine Hearts.

- Okay. - Oh, the Reese's chocolate, that are shapes are so much better. They've ratio of chocolate to peanut butter of like the pumpkins, the Christmas trees,

the Easter ones, like the, like just so much better than that. I saw some claims recently that that Reese's altered their recipe to remove a lot of real chocolate and peanut butter and replace it with a bunch of crap.

Don't know if that's true, but I saw that on the interwebs. - Who's Reese's biggest competitor? - C's, candy is like going after them or something. - I mean, I feel like all these companies are all owned by the same company when you go to the top.

- Right, that's like the problem is not competing with anybody.

- Oh, just number two, work for. - The Reese's is owned by Hershey. So I was kidding, so it's not Hershey. Who holds Hershey's now? Like the Coke Brothers, I don't know who it is.

- Who owns Hershey? - Mars? - It all goes to the top. - It's controlled by the Milton Hershey School Trust. - Okay, there we go, it's them.

There's a great, there's a guy out there who just does. His whole, all of his content is just pointing out which companies own other companies and it's a fantastic content. - It's literally all leads to like five companies

own everything. There's charts that are made to their info graphics that are just like, if you look at like unilever, like Mondalese and like all these things that just, it is actually insane how big.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - It's like black rock just owns like 30% of the market of everything. - It's not everything, it's crazy, true.

- Don't think about it. - Don't think about it, don't think about it. - Dude, I know you don't want to Rick and Morty, but the first episode of Rick and Morty, there's just, they're running from security in an airport

and they knock over a guy smoking a long and the long breaks. The smoke comes out, becomes a baby. And in three seconds while they're running, the baby grows into a child, a teenager, and adult and elderly man in the dies of a heart attack

in three seconds. And they're running from security guards and he looks back and Morty's like, what the Rick says, I'm like, don't think about it. (laughing)

- I mean, yeah. I feel like I say that to myself a lot during the day, especially these days. I'm just like, don't think about it. - Dude, it's the, it's the grandson of the Reese's Peanut

Buttercup's inventor, HB Reese, who is a kind of Hershey, ever placing the candy's original ingredients with cheaper alternatives. - Stop it.

- The Reese grandson, HB Reese. - I'm gonna look him up.

“He probably played in the NFL, HB Reese, stop it.”

Do you think HB Reese's grandson would come on the show to defend Harry Burnett Reese? - You're a, you're a, you're occupation being a chocolate here is something like Willy Walker shit. (laughing)

- Give your actual time. - Dude, are you reading his Wikipedia? - He was inducted into the candy hole of fame. There's a candy hole of fame. - How is there candy hole of fame?

- Oh, if you make a pilgrimage to wherever that is. - National confectures of association. - Where is it? - Is there a place?

- Evaluated $35 billion of loaf

of the confectionery industry. - Class of 2021. - It hosts an annual show the National Candy Show in Chicago. - Oh, hell yeah. - Dude, we got a fucking go to the candy hole of fame.

- Dude, as of 2024, the sweets and snacks expo take place in Indianapolis. - What? - Stop it. - Get wet.

- Are we gonna be there? - No, it's my health state, wet his boat 'cause we wanted to do the forklift rodeo. - Oh, there's a controversy going on here. - Get back to me.

- There always is. - Don't tell me it's milkshake doctor, right? - Why is Trump's name in this page? - Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. - Oh my god.

The National Confection Association is lobbying the Trump administration. Data became for the rollback of government policies that make things more expensive. Oh, oh, god, we milkshake duck.

The chocolateier is in record time. (laughing) - Oh, I don't want to go any billion dollar candy industries. - Problematic. - Don't hesitate about it.

Just go to the Hall of Fame.

“- Dude, HB Reese, how many kids you need to get?”

- Well, so you know, asking 17. - 16. - 16 children? - Yes. - You're diluting your uh,

and the heritage, quite a lot there, pal. - Wow, his wife, Blanche, was really working. (laughing) - She's the one who belongs in the Hall of Fame. (laughing)

- There should be a child bearing all of them. (laughing) Who is the record? - 16's up there, man. Blanche.

- Blanche. - There's a guy who's the candy Hall of Fame, another one in the candy Hall of Fame inductees. For last year, Craig. - Jim Dodge, from Mars Riggly.

- Yeah. - Another company that probably owns everything. - What Mars? - Mars Riggly. - Mars is the second largest private company in America.

I think it's like the Koch Brothers Company and then Mars is the largest privately owned companies in the country. - Forest Mars Junior is also inducted to the Hall of Fame, the candy Hall of Fame.

- We got to find out more. - After the show, we usually talk and forget what the name is.

I've never been so confident that the final word is.

- So we can't help the candy Hall of Fame. - Mars was started in Tacoma. - Okay, I got to say. - There you go. - HB Reest died in 1956.

And it was an until 2009. He was inducted into the candy Hall of Fame. - What are they waiting for? - He fucking created Reest's. This guy's name is HB Reest.

- Dude, we got mad about Bella checked up being first ballot. - The fuck did he eat it? - The years of took all the video. - We do all the damn people on the committee

or just mad because he was a dick. - 53 years? How do you make it to waste? - You had to make it to the senior bracket. - Well, that's fucking crazy.

This is worse than Bella checked not making the Hall of Fame. - Holy shit. - I love that there are classes. 10 people in 2021. - 2021.

- 2017. - What palms do you think you got a grease to get in the candy Hall of Fame? - You got a... - Palms?

- You got a hand out, a lot of candy.

“- The voters are just like let me wet the beak, you know?”

- Let me literally wet your beak with this Reese's. - This is fucking crazy. - Where is this a physical building? I'm gonna go Google Maps up to a kid, candy hole of fame.

- It's just a giant Reese's. - Forest Mars, the junior was inducted in 2021. - Dude, we got it. We got it. Email us if you know anything about this.

Other weird hole of fame. - I like that all the time. - I didn't realize they're all named after the candy. Like, I just didn't think about it. - Yeah, the candy's named after them.

- They're actually the Reese's. - Yeah. - It's Reese's candy. - That's so good. - Yeah, I mean, DK, you would have made a Kelly bar

and it would have been huge. - Yeah, missed opportunity. - Horl-back bars don't sell well. Those don't, those don't make it. - Horl-back?

No, that sounds like there's a lot of... - Horl-back confectionaires. - So like there's overnight oats in the Corl-back. - I would do, I would do just like Reese and Horl-back would just be HB.

- Oh, yeah, there we go. Now we're talking. Now we're cooking. We're a fucking cooking. Anyway, okay.

- Did we get to that at person's email or not? - Oh, no. - What? - I don't even know what to do. - We just started from the Nicholas Row breakfast

was two Reese's Valentine hearts. So we went and got ready for it there. (laughing) - Nicks is on the edge of the scene, waiting for his email.

- It wouldn't have been really funny. - We had to end the show. - We were freaking out. - All right, so I don't know what to do.

- We always feel bad when we do that.

And we've scattered some of the tension. We read the day, but we don't.

rest of his breakfast was two Reese's Valentine's

hearts strawberry cinnamon toast crunch, scattered pieces of Costco shredded chicken. What the fuck? This guy is making love breakfast for a child. - Too much.

- This guy is making breakfast. - Chicken with Reese's. - I was preparing a sandwich for lunch. - He was preparing a sandwich for lunch. So he's making a sandwich and he's eating some

of the chicken and strawberry toast with him in crunch. - Ha. I can see that kind of, does he have a kid? Is he with you? - It's one of those when he hits food.

- If you keep a food log, that like, to like, you know, keep track of what you're eating for calories, what they say is you're eat less. What you actually end up doing is you realize you do shit like this, which is I cereal and shredded chicken

from my lunch.

“- I do sometimes, I think about how weird it is,”

how quickly we go from dinner to dessert.

Like, I could be three minutes away from ice cream in the middle of eating like a duck leg. And I just think that's very bizarre to be like, man, that was some good paté. What's next?

- Strawberry sugar. - Strawberry sugar. - Great, let's mix those together. - I'm very pro-eat dessert right away though. - You love dessert, dude, I love the road. Do they, when they're like dessert, then you,

I learned, I don't have to keep dessert in the house 'cause I, I'll fucking eat it within 72 hours. Dude, I had to explain that to Jackie. Jackie was like, was just keep the dessert here and just don't eat it all.

And I'm like, that's, it's not gonna work. - We're about to go from two pounds of shrimp in horse radish to three minutes later, we're having a chocolate souffle. - Hell yeah.

You were all mixing around in there. - You're like in your stomach,

wondering what to talk about?

- Oh, I'm pro-eat, immediately, eat dessert. I love it. I get like a sweet tooth as soon as I'm done eating. - You do, you, yeah. - You're just okay.

- You're just okay, you're that with.

“- That's like a fully, that is a learned thing, right?”

- Yeah, we crave sweet after dinner. - That's just completely. - Yeah. Anyway, what the hell did this guy say in his eyes? - I still have to eat you now.

- You just better be a fucking good email. - It's pretty funny, so Nick wrote, it's about the names, and we talk about all these names. Probably, you know, the worst names you could be names. And Nick writes, when I was at the end of my eighth grade year

which was the final year of middle school, we got to do a visit to the high school. And we got to meet some of the teachers in the principal and some counselors we would have in high school. And my parents wanted to see who my guidance counselor

was gonna be in high school. So my guidance counselor shakes my dad's hand and says, "Hey, please call me Chuck." They sit down and Nick says, "My dad looks at the guy's name plate at his desk."

And the name plate says, "Mr. Manson." (laughing) - Please, call me Chuck, please. - Please, Chuck, please, call me Chuck. - Charles was my father, please, call me Chuck.

- Charles Manson is like in the '60s. - Guidance counselor. - Oh, that's good.

“- Charles Manson's the guidance counselor.”

- That's Nick said, he's a great guy. - Yeah, you got to do that, you got to go by Chuck. - Chuck, you have no choice. - You got to go middle name, even if it's worth the whole. - Go by chas.

- Chas, chas Manson? - Imagine being Chuck. - It's chas, short for Chuck. - Charles, Charles? - Oh, I didn't know that. - It's like the Peggy to make this.

- I'm pretty sure it is. - Okay. - Should have one other dummy meal. The email I said, the subject line is you ruin my life. It's also a little bit about names.

We can save it again and just keep rolling this over until we get to it or I can read it. - No, I'd like, I want to know how we ruin someone's life. - That sounds like a good one. - It's a little lengthy.

- It's a little lengthy, but I do think it's funny. - Okay. - So this is from Luke. - Luke, Luke, Luke. - Again, Luke, Jesus.

- That one doesn't roll. - Didn't like that. - Not Luke. - Luke, hell bone. - Can't believe this is chocolate Hall of Fame.

Anyway, Luke writes, again, the subject line was you may have ruined my life. Luke writes, "So there's this girl I've been "had over heels for for the last year. "I recently had a break through a few weeks ago.

"She confided in me when I immediately "after breaking up with her long time boyfriend." - All right. - And Luke writes, "I wish I could say "that the ex-boyfriend is an asshole.

"Unfortunately, the ex-boyfriend, delightful guy." - Yeah. - And I threw this delightful ex-boyfriend under the bus without hesitation as soon as the opportunity presented itself.

I am without a doubt a massive piece of shit. So Luke writes, "I was able to parlay that. "I parlayed the break up into two recent hangouts, "one with her and a friend. "And then tonight, just her,

"it was this is a week ago, whatever. "It's like, or Monday, I don't know." So, not Valentine's Day. So Luke writes, "Earlier, we were on this day, "we were walking at a park and she even notes

"that she's not sure why she's hanging out with me

"and kind of suggesting she was having a good time

"and even in Luke's eyes, "maybe implying something "between us could be possible." I'm giving you all this background

“to set the stage for how tragic what a follows is.”

- And this is where fall. Unfortunately, I don't think it's as fall. We went by my apartment to grab my pickleball gear. Naturally. And they were gonna play pickleball together

and says, "Wall were there on it these days." - Sorry, I had to. - That was good. - No, I didn't mean it. - That was good, I like it.

- I like it. - I like it. I'm playing pickleball. - Kind of like that. - Yeah, it's a playing pickleball, are you?

So Luke says, "Wall were there. "She gets a call from her aunt." And she says, "It might be a little bit." So this call could take us several minutes. So she goes on to my patio.

And I figure, I'll just pick up where I left off and today's podcast. And I'll iron some clothes until she's done.

So she's taken a phone call and he goes inside

and just finds the iron is closed. - Well, she goes, they're inside getting pickleball gear. Her aunt calls her. She goes outside to take the call. She says, "This could be a lot.

"This could be a minute." - Okay. - And he's just, he's just multitasking. - And he's like, "I'll just do something." - I've got a response.

- I got an iron these clothes. - That's pretty unique. - That's really exciting. - Part of the thing's ironing the clothes was on purpose. He's like, "I'm domesticated."

- Yeah. - Look at you. - I got a class again. - I got a class again. - I got a class again.

- Yeah. - So he puts on the pot, he's ironing. And he says, " Unfortunately, I get to the part of the podcast where you fucking weirdos are just naming old people's names back and forth."

And you guys are just giggling and he says, "I am just giggling along." And you guys are like, "Betty, huh? "Betty, who's the ain't Betty? "Dott, Dottie!"

- Oh no. - That ain't all. Beverly. And we were just naming names. - He was giggling.

- Yeah. - So Luke says, "Little did I know. "She had come back inside from the patio. "Sat there for multiple minutes, "just watched me ironing clothes

"and listening to three psychopaths saying names." And I am laughing. - Okay. - I turn around, I notice her. I pause the podcast thinking we're gonna go play pickleball.

And she does not move a muscle or something. And after like a minute, like a wild pause, she says, "What were you listening to?" And she is the most confounded and concerned look I've ever seen in another person's face.

And I'm like, "I think a perfectly reasonable response "to witness a man ironing clothes, laughing the stuff." And she was so concerned, I panicked. And she doesn't know anything about football. So I just start talking about the fantasy draft

from last fall, and explain the fantasy drafts.

“Remember that dinner where some of our mutual friends”

had that big poster with all the stickers? And then she's like, "So fantasy football is just naming people "who named Peggy plays football?" (laughs) - Reasonable question.

So then I realized I'm not explaining it well. I spiral, panic even more. Try to laugh it off, play it cool. I had already let the pressure get to me. Not able to land the plane, keep explaining.

And then she was so mythed. I destroyed all the momentum I had romantically. And then changed the dynamic. We go to play pickleball. I start over compensating playing pickleball.

Try to hard to win and start going a little to hard playing pickleball, which makes it worse. And then we gave her the "Ik." We gave her the "Ik." We gave this girl the "Ik."

- Name it is. - Taste and us. - I would argue. - What's her name? - What's her name?

- I don't think he wants the name. I don't worry her name was like fucking funny. - Bonnie, don't you think? - It was not. - Dottie.

- Dottie or Beverly or Gertrude? We did hear from a Gertrude. - I feel like our boy Luke here kind of fumbled, fumbled the bag a little bit. I think Luke is friend zoneed.

Thought he was on the precipice of escaping the friends zone, which maybe he was. But you have like, you know, you're Luke Scott, you have a very narrow chit. You're the Dr. Strange.

You got one in 14 million. - And they gave her the "Ik." But he panicked, give her the Ik. - I know. - Like, have some pocket awareness.

Like, fucking peel out of that. You can get out of that. - Oh, all right. - It's a show about football. They were joking about names at the end of the pod.

- Anyway. - Less is more. - Anyway. - How was your ant? - And then he spikes the ball into her.

- Exactly. - How was your ant? - How was your ant? - I don't call. It's just dumb show about football.

These guys were screwing around. - How's your ant? - Black, don't. - Don't.

- Never talk about yourself.

(laughing) - Don't make her realize that you're you.

“- What podcast does she need to hear him listening to?”

Get the onik. - Oh, that's good. What are the green flag pods to listen to? - Honestly, it's probably like the daily NPR. - It's a good ant.

- I think that's a big green flag for women. - N-piece. - We're probably a red flag. - That's tough. - No, we can't be a red flag.

We're neutral. We're neutral. Yeah, what is that? - What's yellow flag? - White flag.

- I don't know. - White is a red flag. - He's a renderer. I'm in the front of that. - Oh, she's like, "Hey, it's me or the pod."

It's like sign-felt. It's me or hello! (laughing)

and he just is standing in the door waiting

and goes, "Piggy Lorne, it's shut on her." - That'd be good. - I love that. - He plays football. - Why would he?

- Fair question. - Oh, God. Oh, God, I'm sorry, Luke. But we honest, this is all in reform. - Keep at it.

- Keep at it. - Yeah, no, it was updated. I wonder how it goes, but it's not over. - And Rose, or whatever her name. - And I'm not ranting about it.

He said, he literally was like, read this on the show, so at least this is it in vain. So I'm not, I'm not ranting now. - Do you think she'll think it's cool if he plays her this clip?

- No, he's gonna regret this being on the show. - That is shocked. - That's a Hail Mary Craig. - That was, that's like high variance. You can either hit that Hail Mary or it's really over.

- Yeah. - One way, if they are listening, I heard Luke is hung like an absolute horse. (laughing) - Hold on, wait, actually, we hold on.

- We have a man. - I got an email from Luke's ex-girlfriend. - Hold on, it was the best in bed she's ever had. - Danny Kelly has a scouting report of Luke. It says, "Burly high cut muscular build

"with a massive powerful lower half weapon.

"Dickie was get off angular build." - Yeah. - You know the old night on the night of the seven kingdoms? - Mm-hmm. - Oh, I've heard, I haven't started the show,

but I've heard all about it. - Yeah, yeah. - A remarkable scene. (laughing) - I'm remarking on it.

- This should be remarked on, yeah. (laughing) - They based him off Luke, I heard it. - That's what I heard too, yeah.

“- Yeah, that's what, I got a couple emails”

from K from Luke's past lovers. - Company him. - His parable. - He couldn't handle it, that's why it ended. Not nothing wrong with Luke.

(laughing) - Yeah, we've, too many linked it endorsements. We need, we need actual verified. - A gentle and skilled lover. - I've heard it.

(laughing) - That's just what they said. - All right, Luke, the messenger here. - There he goes. - It is a game of inches, in fact.

- Yeah, yeah. - And for Luke, it's a lot of inches. (laughing) - It's big, thick novel. (laughing)

- Thank you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, thank you Craig, thank you, Luke. - Sorry, but you're welcome now. Thank you, camp, thank you, a boo, thank you, Austin, thank you, Carlos, thank you for listening.

We live more episodes this week. And again, we're the NFL Draft Show now, so you probably know that, but just hit the followers, subscribe button, or wherever, you're listening, you know it's track of us.

Follow us in the Instagram, ring your fancy football. And yeah, love episodes, probably Wednesday night, Thursday, we'll see it, we'll be a little fluid in any appos. Thank you, Lord. - Lord, thank you, 30 seconds to Mars.

- Oh, it's your staying. - Never really. - Never really. - Yeah, they are a perfect example of a band where when I hear their name, I can't name the songs.

And when I hear the songs, I can't name the band, but I do know their songs. - Jared, let it. - Jared, let it, right? That is the only thing.

- Exactly. - And I know him too, but as an actor, mostly. - Is he better as an actor or an artist? - Or whatever band lead guy? - I'm in the band's singer.

I don't know.

“- I mean, I guess, I think he's been nominated”

for an Oscar, so I think probably actor. - Oh, I think is this his brother, Shannon Leto? - Yeah. - Did you know that? - So Jared Leto is lead vocals guitar and then I guess base and keyboard's also.

- Looks like we're pretty quiet in the song. - Looks like we're pretty quiet in the song. - Try to pull it out. - What's there? Yeah, 30 seconds to Mars.

Are they still playing? - I don't know what Jared Leto is ever up to.

I never know what they're gonna do.

- I feel like every five years the Tron movie comes out and like, who asked for this? - Wait, he was in Blade Runner, 2049 or whatever? - Mm, wasn't he? - I haven't seen that movie actually.

- What? - Well, movie? - The Blade Runner sequel? - 2049? - Yeah. - Yeah, well there's movies that haven't seen

that I keep to myself 'cause I know I should see it. It's good, right now. - I don't know. - I'm never heard anyone say it's bad, actually. - No one ever has.

- That's underrated. That's really how we should judge movies. I wanna know things where everyone's like, it's good. Like no one's ever like, it's fine. - You're a good person.

“- Are you talking about the original Blade Runner or the new one?”

- I didn't hear anyone. I don't know anyone who saw Blade Runner in 2049 that didn't like it. I think, yeah, at least no one to my, that I talked to in real life,

said that, sure people didn't admit it. - I don't really know, I feel like I haven't heard. I guess I agree with you, I don't know anybody who hates it, but I don't know anybody who's like, man, love 2049. - I do.

- Do you? - One of the three people in this conversation. - All right, there you go. (laughs) - I would say, yeah, it's up there.

- It's a good follow-up, you think? - Yeah, quite definitely. - Wait, there's one thing I forgot. - Jacky made me promise. - Jacky made me promise.

- There's last name, Bill Nove, Bill Nove. - Bill Nove, Denny, Bill Nove, Bill Nove. - Denny, Bill Nove. - I can't believe he's doing the new Dune thing. That seems hard to film.

- Dude, he's doing fucking James Bond after it. - That's good, they need a guy. - Super sick.

- I promise, Jacky, probably the most accomplished director

to ever have Bond, to be honest. - Well, Bond, I have a lot of thoughts on James Bond. - Do you care about who it is? Do you have opinions on who will be the next Bond? - I think they'll fix it.

I think they'll figure it out.

“It just seems like, honestly, they're like,”

they're like an NFL team with the owners crazy. It's like, it just seems like the family members running Bond are all kind of like, - Well, they don't even end. - The new fate.

- The new fate, yeah, so favor it is. - It's a column. - What's his last name? - Turner, Turner, right? - Yeah, with a name Bond, already did it.

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - He's like sort of rumors. - There's rumors that it's Jacoba Lordeer, a column Turner. Jacoba Lordeer, he's too tall.

He's too tall. - He can't be Bond, he's too tall. - I mean, too tall. - Yeah, he's like six, six, six, six, six, six. He's like six, seven, and dress shoes.

That's too tall, I'm cruise five, six. They made that work. Not as James Bond. His mission impossible, not like the closest thing. - Everyone James Bond, every time James Bond

will be at like a fancy dinner, he'll just look like a giant. It's and we'll just cut some crap. - It's just too big of funny work. - All James Bond, it's too tall.

He's like six, six, eight, James Bond. You're like, I don't you, you made it. - When I promised Jack, I would ask this. Jackie, I wanted to be an ask you guys, if you've heard about punch the monkey.

- No. - It's this monkey, it's this baby, McCock monkey. - Different from spanking the monkey. - Yes, that's also an 80's term.

- Okay.

“- Is that, I mean, is that a term meaning jerking off?”

- Yes. - It's like Terry and Lannister says in thrones, that there's this monkey, it's like a child monkey that in enclosure in Japan, in this zoo, and it's being bullied by all the monkeys.

I think it's like an orphan monkey. - What about it? - It's not being fit in with the other monkeys. So it has a stuffed animal monkey. Like it's giant stuffed animal monkey

that it takes with it everywhere. And all these other monkeys are bullying punch the monkey and he carries this little, is his stuffed, then monkey's name's punch. - Got it.

- Or he does get punched a lot. But it is so popular that I think, I can get someone actually released a stuffed animal of punch and the stuffed animal monkey. - There it is.

- He carries this stuffed animal everywhere and every time he gets punched or hit by one of the other monkeys, he runs and just like has his stuffed animal. - But that's all heartbreaking.

- I'm looking at a photo of punch and his little, but there's a little pal. They're starting to accept him though. Like now he's starting to be part of the crew. But I kind of hate them all already.

- I'm pretty mad at the fucking monkeys. - Yeah, fuck them. - This is a good animal. - This is a great view.

- It's an incredible animated movie idea.

Speaking of, I'm excited to see the movie Hopper's the new Pixar film. Hopper's looks great. Doesn't it? It's then been named back to like,

“I remember when they made Seoul and it's like,”

do you think kids don't want to see this movie about a man who's not satisfied with his job? And it's like now it's probably one kid who can talk to animals. - I know, I'm like talking animals I'm in.

(laughs) That's not, dude. - But also, do a little, the Toy Story 5 trailer came out. That movie is gonna make a could Jillian dollars and be incredible.

- If you think my mom didn't take, all my mom texted me about movie wise is just every Toy Story. - I mean, the whole thing, the whole conceded the movie is that the kid gets an iPad

named Lily Pad and then it's all the toys basically trying to prevent the kids from being obsessed with this iPad perfection. - It's just a fantastic, I don't know, no, no. - Toy Story doesn't, I know Rotten Tomatoes

is like at this point, like reviled among people actually in the movie industry, but for losers like me who just don't know anything. - It's like a hundred percent for all their movies. - Yeah, Toy Story 3 was like one of the,

the Toy Story 3's on the same level as the Godfather on Rotten Tomatoes, like was like a hundred percent. - Again, which just means everyone who reviewed it gave it higher than a five out of 10, which is like that. - But that's accurate.

- Yeah, 'cause Toy Story 3 got Toy Story 4 key. - Toy Story 4 was unforgettable. Like I saw it, I already don't know what really happened. - I don't know, I don't know. - Four thing is there. This is, this is part, this is gonna be good.

- 'Cause Toy Story 3's great. - Yeah. - Toy Story 3 is phenomenal.

Is it the best third movie in its trilogy ever?

- Right. - Return to the King. - Return to the King. - Return to the King. - It is like Star Wars, return to the King and fucking Toy Story 3. - That's fun, yeah, I mean maybe.

- It's brought to those three. - Which one? - Yeah, I don't know. - I don't know. - I actually am a huge fan. - Right, three's good, but I don't think it's probably not in the level of, it's not return to the King,

or Toy Story 3, or definitely not Godfather Part 3. - Certainly not. (laughs) - That's definitely not, dude. - Transformers three. - Transformers three.

- It's offensive tackle. - Dude, we gotta go to his podium. Is it obnoxious if we go to Dunk Warley on's fucking podium and then we ask him just about the Godfather? - I mean, I'm sure that's not gonna be the first time we got that.

- It's gonna be hilarious. - You know, the first particular thing. - It's like all the people that called you Dan the man growing up. - Uh-huh, great. - Good one. Real original.

- Anyway, this episode has been brought to you by Pixar. (laughs) - It has not. - To be clear it. - No, it's not, it's a joke.

- It has not. I am organically excited to see Hopper's Android Story 5.

- It just looks good. - Should we go together?

- No, it doesn't come out in time.

“- Comes out in a couple of weeks, you know?”

- No, okay.

- All right, we'll give a Hopper a view, we'll see it.

- Anyway, hopefully Jared let us in it. - John Hams in it.

- Mm-hmm, wow, they have a condo.

Goodbye, everyone. (upbeat music)