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terms at dkng.co/audio. I've got five things for you from last night's first round of the NBA

draft. We'll run through them and then bring in Jay Billis for more. My board, no one cares, but for the record, Peterson won AJ two, Booser three, I had walked with four K-levels and five. Peterson shot making is just so absurd that I would probably prioritize that also being like in that six-four six-five range. This is what I hate about the combine measuring without shoes, because Peterson would be a six-six guy, the old way, where your

measurement would come out measurement in shoes, but they changed it a few years ago. So now it just feels like everybody who's six-four and a half, it's like that sucks, because you used to be able to say that you were six-six based on NBA heights. And again, if you don't believe me, that's exactly what they used to do. And then they just said, "All right, enough of this stuff." So I guess the adventures will be all phased out. Every six-four and a half guy will

feel like another six-four and a half guy. I right now, I think Peterson's a better player too. I think that Debonse, even though he was just physically overwhelming, and then that's the frame that you want to bet on. Six-nine versus six-four and a half, or I think he's six-eight and a half, with his measurement, with those shoulders, not doubling him, even though his teammates Saunders are the best score, probably, on BYU other than him, not being in the mix. And then,

Debonse had just like taken it to do. It's in the big twelve-termic game. So I was changing my mind constantly. But I still think Peterson's a better player right now. If you want to tell me, hey, that's not the job, man. The job is who's the better player in three to five years, and that's why Winger and the group with the Wizards, when with Peterson, I couldn't sit there and tell them that they were wrong. And I still somehow wanted to be a Booser guy through all this, because I think that

“that pick may haunt the two teams in front. Like, that's how much fun I think this draft is, because”

it was so hard. It was really hard for me. And I think there's a lot of things on the table with the end game for all this stuff. But you know, if you're going to be wrong, teams are going to be wrong with height and hopefully with height and athleticism, that's why Caleb Wilson is forward instead of log alert. Who I just think you are going to get a guy that can play on and off in a way. You know,

one of the best players in the world for log alert if you were that good. Then he should just go one.

“But I'm just telling, I think there's so much to log alert. And that's why I had him higher than”

the other guards and higher than Wilson, which I didn't see a lot of there. The draft, I don't know that it's really enough set because you started seeing it in the mocks, Mackel Brown going six to Brooklyn. But I think that changed a lot in the picks behind them with him moving up. I did not like Brown as much as other people because I just thought there's decision-making, drill me crazy, where I have this thing with certain players, where I'm like, are you playing

basketball or are you auditioning for a role to play basketball? Were you going to take these like absurd shots to show how cool it is? And the passing stuff with him is just, it was, I thought there were so many moments where I'm like, what are you doing? Tests just have absolutely no chance, no chance whatsoever. But it's pick and roll ball handling. As he is the ball handler in the pick and roll because there's two different variations of how

you can look to stuff up, pick and roll man, which is the man who was sending the screen that were only pick and roll ball. That is the ball handler off the pick and roll. He was in the 89th percentile for points per possession on those. And on spot-up shots, he was in the 97th percentile. With that size and that athleticism, I totally get why teams would have him. I would have me had a wager, but would have him ahead of a cuff and also Kingston Fleming. So I really liked

like I liked this group so much. So that sets up Sacramento, which was a lock that would be a cuff. I don't think that that ownership group was going to decide to go, hey, let's go with Kingston instead of the star potential with an empty palette considering all the off-season stuff that could be happening. Maybe that ends the idea that they're going to get job, which sounds like it was over anyway once they asked for compensation to take on job Iran, although that felt like the most

Sacramento Kings acquisition ever. But eight cuff to Sacramento kind of lay up once you saw all that play out in front. That meant Atlanta and still having Kingston Fleming's on the board, had to have felt like a huge win for them because even though Mara goes to Sacramento, which we're going to get to here, excuse me, goes to Oklahoma City, which we'll get to here, just a four picks later. Mara with Atlanta, like you're providing yourself that big and that optionality,

“which maybe is a little bit more important than just a long-term starter to guard position with CJ McCollum,”

being in his mid-30s. So me being critical of Atlanta going like, oh boy, are you potentially

just drafting a backup center at 7 foot 3 because you're not going to want to bench a Congo or does it really even matter or does that mean the Congo gets phased out as a starter or it's matchup dependent and you have like two really different looks that are kind of cool and maybe both guys that are going to be able to stretch the floor as five, like isn't that the goal and you could have two of them that are entirely different defensive matchups. So I wonder how much internal debate

they had about that, but I'm sure once Kingston Fleming is still there, you're just kind of like to do it. Some teams may have taken him fifth throughout this entire process. Morris Johnson goes ninth, my scattering of Portland was just aggressive, aggressive, aggressive. When you watch him in transition, it's fantastic. 87% of his field goal attempts were at the rim. 22% of his possessions, which is the most of any of his possessions. So it's like, hey, how often

it's the ice, so how often is he posting up? It's nobody post up anymore. Handoffs, all this kind of stuff, pick a roll ball, hander, pick a roll man. Well, the most used possession for Morris is 22% of his plays were cuts and he was in the 91st percentile on points per possession. It's too bad Lucas and still there. What's thinking about this? I'm like, oh man, cutting off the ball, his aggressiveness, him running in transition, him being a lob threat. You'd be a perfect

man with Luca. It's never going to stop. Sorry. I'm sorry Dallas fans. It's never going to stop.

And this is somebody with limited touches, limited minutes, but so incredibly aggressive. And the crazy thing is, too, is like he takes more shots and you would have thought it like only 20 plus minutes a game. But even though people are selling him as a three point shooter, because he's

“a 34% I think that numbers a bit of a lie. I don't like the way the shot looks right now. But he's”

getting to the free throw line because he's so overwhelming in these college games. He's so ridiculous, so much to deal with his energy. And it's like, oh shit, this guy's coming down, fill the lane, like I'm out of here. He's been living at the free throw line in these 78% of free throw. So even though I think that 34 number from three is overselling who he is as a spacer right now. And maybe it's entirely fixed. We all know the rule is if you can point to some sort of free throw number that

gives you hope. That's an incredible free throw number. And he's taken a ton of free throws. To again,

if you're taking Morris Johnson ninth, you're going, we think he can defend. We think he's a freak

I don't know how much influence dusty may has in this process. But if it were something where

he comes in, he was like, hey, you're you're making a huge mistake. He'd probably have enough juice to pull this off. But that he was this excited about it that I'm sure Dallas was thrilled before they even knew they were going to do the dusty may thing. Or maybe they were talking the entire time and dusty was a big part of this. And it wasn't just technically a couple of days ago. All that's on the table, all that's possible. I'm going to believe anything. But what I did love

is that Yaxel and Mara are losing their minds in the most genuine passionate way when Morris gets picked before them. And sometimes it's pretty clear like I have no idea what kind of read I have on this.

They're doing what they're supposed to be doing. Support of a teammate happy despite this being

competitive moment. That was like Kobe White when Cam Johnson got drafted. Like Kobe White just

“being so pumped that Cam Johnson was drafted even though I think everybody at the time is a little”

surprised at that pick going back to it. All right. Number three. So the Morris part of it pushes back breweries to 10. Sometimes like breweries as much as the rest of these other guards that went ahead of them, I like breweries more than Mara's two entirely different players. So I think this is a home run scenario at 10 and 13 from a walkie to get two young players like this and a grab amen at 13, which is probably like you were wondering if 10 was going to be the lowest he could

go. I don't think it was going to be golden state. The Yaxel thing. I don't know if there's any

other decision there for golden state. The Yaxel thing makes a lot of sense because if it's a billeted fit in right away and play in a bunch of different ways and it just be a smart basketball player. But I really wondered if there was anybody else that would drop if they'd been tempted to

“go in a different direction or if it just all made too much sense with the way the board fell. The”

golden state's like, well, we just have to go ahead and do this. But for amen. And because I'm still a little surprised with my like 10 minutes on the Yana straight yesterday, people being. I guess I'm surprised that people think I'm wrong about this package that they got form. I understand that horse and Milwaukee were in possible spot. They were in possible spot by their own doing. And I couldn't help a laugh a little bit last night at the Shams report during the broadcast of the draft. It's

like Milwaukee is taking record breaking number of calls on all of these assets that they brought in. Yeah, it makes sense that Detroit would love a Tyler hero. They may have an inexpensive. They may have two inexpensive Tyler heroes already on the team. Please release the Hawkeyes offers leak the Hawkeyes offers. I'd loved to hear how intense those are at this point as if he wasn't available this whole fucking time. But like I know we're going to pick in the lottery, but have we called Milwaukee seven times

today to ask about Hawkeyes. So that was a little, I don't know, I thought that was a little creative

“in the storytelling there. But for a night for as bummed out as I think Milwaukee bucks fan should be”

and help bummed out, there should be the way they handle this whole thing. And then when you look at the entire palette of stuff that you have, I'm using that word twice now. I thought it was nice. I thought it was a nice little night there from Milwaukee to grab amen 13th considering. I just normally guys that size that handle that just the way they move. Those guys usually are going to go earlier in the lottery, but not in a packed year like this. I number four, okay, see in San Antonio

Square and off. I'll admit, Mara, the biggest thing with me is the passing he did have over 100 blocks this year. If you're going to have him switch out on a really fast point card, guess what's going to happen? That really fast point card's probably going to go around him. But if you're talking about, okay, see, mapping this out going, hey, if we have a 73 guy that's going to be able to stretch the floor a little bit, then we have to take him because if things play out, which is stupid around

up and be like, hey, it's going to be okay, see in San Antonio every year for the next five years. It's also not impossible that that could happen as well. So that's the heart and stine option where I imagine he opts out and they bring him back. Because I couldn't think that they would want to turn the page because of money because they've already paid chat that they want to turn the page on heartsteen and also chat. Sorber is still in play who I love last year's draft prospect.

I'm like, man, this guy's maybe nasty and then you add Mara to the entire mixer. So it may just be about them going, hey, we need to prioritize size in a big way here because of that big dude from France down in San Antonio. And it starts, they took him, get out of Iowa, he used to be a Drake. He used to be an even smaller school before that. And I've liked him. I was arguing with a

Good luck with that. We're so low. It's like stings. That stings a little bit. It's also not

“entirely inaccurate either. And then okay, see, takes them. You're like, see, just like, just like”

Presti. So that was kind of an interesting night from okay, see where you were wondering if they're going to try to trade out of these picks because of roster situation. Instead, they've added a force center that is supposed to be a playable center. Then you have San Antonio on the other side, going like, you want to go size okay, see, will go size big time with you. JQ Jain Quentin's the Kentucky prospect, who was at Arizona State, who is enormous. I like this pick for San

Antonio. I've heard it two different ways that the needies will be cleaned up. He'll be back. He'll be fine, but he's going to miss some time. And then, of course, I've heard that he can play through it. I'd imagine the agents would be pushing that he can play through this. It's just like just get him in. And they should be thrilled because their guys got some guaranteed years here

as a first round pick. But if you're looking at human beings that that check as many boxes as

this guy do, there's just not many people that can do it. And if your team is already really good and you're looking at this as a luxury item, and you also know you're probably going to be able to pick up terrorist read later on. I don't know if they knew that or not. It was only five picks later. They probably had some inkling that there could be a potential move with Denver moving out of the first round. So I like what the spurs did. And even though terrorist read, it was like,

hey, so they got another guy who can post up that they don't want to post. Okay. That's a final joke, bear. I was even in my head going, like, oh, wow, that's going to be interesting. Like, what are they going to do? Because his balance unit is leaving Denver. You know, the same thing happened a friend for Shilla last night. He's making Leon jokes about Luke and Spain. And you're just like, yeah, he's not going there. It's car. That happens. And I hate that it happens the broadcast

every second year because it's super frustrating. But I'm like thinking about, well, if terrorists

reads coming from hurly system, then maybe the yoke of stuff won't be as challenging for them, but then it's like, oh, yeah, actually he's just going to send it to me. So it's in Antonio, got bigger. Final thought, and that's on the broadcast. I, uh, I take this stuff personally, because I like it so much, right? And so if you're going to do two different broadcasts on

“the ABC and ESPN, I think those broadcasts should be different. And they're different to a degree.”

And I know this is probably not going to be popular, but I'm just going to say it. But Lisa Sultre's asking 30 families in a row what this moment means to them when it's the same. And it's not Lisa's fault. It's the right question to ask every single one of these families. But there seems to be like this hard, hard lean into, this is about the families. This is about the celebration. This is about their moment. And maybe I sound a little bit like a dick to go, I don't want to watch that

for three hours. I want breakdowns. I want, how does this fit in? Is this a good pick? Or is this bad tick? Is there any disagreement ever again? Can anybody disagree and say, I actually don't think they should have gone this direction? I don't think we have those moments anymore. I think the staffing is better than it's ever been. But I, again, I hope this isn't taken as a criticism of Lisa's work at all because she's just a legend in this. And she's asking the right question. But if the

right question is the same question to 30 different draft picks, it can become a little repetitive.

“I might be wrong. And if you want to go with, hey, it's about families. There's no way I want to”

have the argument. Never mind. Win it. I'm just like, okay, fine, I lose. But from a draft nerd

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J-Billis on the coverage last night for ESPN's round one draft show for the NBA. My favorite day, so we get J on every year, so we appreciate the time. We know you're gearing up for round two, so thank you. Thank you. You used to be one day, six hours in the chair, not having to use the restroom, and now it's two, so I'm not sure which I like better. I think two, I think it's two is so pointless. I get like everybody looked at the NFL and said, oh wow, look at this, and it's

“like, all right, but it's him. I don't know. That's why they did it, Ryan. I think my understanding”

is the NBA teams wanted the extra time, because it goes from second round as you know, it goes from five minutes to two minutes to make a paper used to, I should say, and they wanted more time, like those things are valuable, and you want to give it the appropriate amount of time and attention, so I understood the teams asked for more time. I think we all found a way to get it done,

like it happened. Yeah, I don't know. It's just, I like the second round, but I don't like the

two days in a row, but whatever, we'll, we'll, we'll file that in the complaint box later on, and we'll listen to it here. Uh, at the end of, of all of my pre-draft process, which is not as extensive as others, so I'll offer that up. I went Peterson 1, AJ2, Booser 3, and I had Wagner 4, Wilson 5. Where did you land on? Who should have been the number one pick last night for yourself? Well, I didn't, it's a good question. I didn't look at it that way, at least I don't. What I do

is I, I put it together, the best available list, and it got it's been 24 years now. When I first started, I kind of told people, "Look, I'll do the best prospects, but I'm not going to do a mock draft. It's like I'm not going to be wearing out MBA personnel and having them lied to me and all that stuff."

“And so I understand, like, I think it was a good first pick for, um, for Washington, because”

debons of fits into that roster really well, and you could argue he's just as good as, um, as Peterson, but I think Peterson's the best player and the best prospect. Um, and so I had him number 1, uh, so my, my list went, uh, Peterson debons of Booser kind of, I don't want to say interchangeable, but I wouldn't argue with anybody that it's, if Washington take in Booser number 1, I wouldn't argue to that. Uh, I think he's the best beer basketball player in the draft. Uh, I did have Wilson 4,

you know, I, I don't know what you thought, Brian, but, um, I don't, I can't remember every hearing and a draft, more people that I respect, uh, talk about more different players saying, this guy could wind up being the best player in the draft. Uh, I heard that about six or seven different guys this year, and I don't ever remember hearing that before. Uh, so the depth of talent was kind of, uh, extraordinary. I still think, and you may differ with us, but I still think, like,

if Cooper flag was in the draft, you would have gone number 1, we wouldn't, we wouldn't hesitate. But, um, but, you know, we can argue about that kind of, that's a bar of remarkment, but I, I had, I had Wilson number 4. Yeah, look, I was, I was a little surprised because I did a draft thing last week, where I said, if you were the wizards and you were offering number 1 to San Antonio for Dylan Harper, like who says no, and they both thought I was a little crazy to

think San Antonio would say no, and I was like, I'm, I'm big on like proof of concept. When I've already seen it happen, and when I see what Dylan Harper does, you know, he finds that age, something that we haven't seen kind of ever, um, because even the magic Johnson finals comparison is not the same as what Dylan Harper was as far as seizing all that kind of said, so I, I'm with you on the Cooper thing, maybe a clean year from Peterson, where there's no issues whatsoever,

maybe that changes like a Peterson Cooper, but I'm, I'm with you in general,

and that, because it's actually my second question, but I love this. I'll always love this draft

because of the talent, but also how hard it was for me. It was hard for me to go like, I'm, I'm definitively like on this guy now. I was changing my mind constantly. I was changing my mind and Caleb Wilson. So let's, let's do this exercise. How many players do you think is like the cutoff of, hey, if in five years, this player's the best player, like do you think it's six or seven,

through this process. It might be more than that, you know, like you got a guy from, like, Nate A. Matt from Tennessee, who has an extraordinary amount of talent, he just has an harness that all yet, and he needs to get stronger, but when you look at the body of work he's put together in a year, in another year he would have been a top 10 pick. And, you know, he went, like, 13th of Milwaukee, Milwaukee got a pretty good haul, getting brain berries and Nate A. Matt, but

“that's sort of the hard part, and I think I've softened on this over the years of doing this.”

It's, you know, that when you put one player in front of another, it doesn't mean you believe in the

second, you don't believe in the second player. It's just a question of who do you believe in most,

and you got to list them out, and at some point, you know, teams have to make decisions, and it doesn't mean you don't like the other guy. Sometimes, and you go through this, everybody's as much as I do, if not more, or sometimes, when you say, "Well, I think so, and so is the best player." People hear everybody else sucks, and that's not what you're saying. Yeah, it's certainly true. And I think you nailed it with Milwaukee, where, you know, even though

I just look at the haul, my big issue with Jonas in the trade was you had 13, 14 months on this, probably haven't had a little bit longer, but we were at the combine in 25 hearing about all this stuff, and you were kind of in denial, and trying to fix it on the fly, and it's just that collection,

but I would say at least for last night, berries landing 10, where I had teams going like,

"How come it's Wagler, Acuff, and Kale, and Kinks, they're like, "Why is there this gap that breweries isn't with those guys?" You know, and it was convenient for teams that weren't necessarily picking there, saying that to me in time and time again, but like, breweries is incredibly impressive.

“So, for breweries in Ameth, I think 10, 13, where you're thinking, "Hey, we got two young kids,”

highly regarded prospects come in." Ameth, I would say, was maybe the most criticized lottery prospect of anybody that I would talk to teams about, but they weren't like dismissive or nasty about it. It was just more of like, "I wish I had seen a little bit more, but the thing is, is once you see what you're starting with, it's 610 plus, and that handle on that movement, and I think we all think the shot is far better than the numbers, and then maybe,

you know, him being uncomfortable early, but then responding to Rick Barnes kind of challenging him and stuff. So, I think that story got a lot better for Ameth, and on a night where Milwaukee probably should have been like, "How did it fix it last night?" But I thought that was a really nice night for the books of those two picks. Yeah, and there, you know, Milwaukee's strategy has to be more long-term here. Like, I tend to agree with you that, you know, we can argue about,

should they have done something different with Janice and earlier, and gotten a better haul, or whatever, but they did get a number of players. I don't think that the volume of players

“they got from Miami fixes anything. I think they need to do a lot more, but this is a great first step.”

For a really good future, and you're a point on Ameth, like one of the things I give, Nate Ameth, a lot of credit for is that, you know, Framphershull had said something about the players, that Kingston Fleming's choosing to go to Houston, that he kind of signed up for the Navy Seals, you know, and I feel similar about Ameth going to play for Rick, that he was signed enough to to really go into the fire. And one of the things that happened with Ameth is because of his

frame, every team they played against wanted to be ultra-physical with him. And he handled it. I mean, got to the free-throw line a lot. He was one of the, you know, had one of the highest drawing draw

fouls rate in the country, and never back down. You know, he had some good games, bad games,

and all that, but overall, I thought he showed really well, and played a different position. He was more on the perimeter instead of playing more inside, but you give him some time. He's got all the tools to be really good. And you're like, "It can go the other way. Maybe he won't turn out to be special." Well, that's always part of this, as we'll look back in five years, it's done matter of the draft. We're going to look back in five years, and we would have done it

different. What do you think, like, okay, C takes Mara? And I don't know where you were on Mara. You know, I'm sure you liked him. I'm sure you saw the vision of what teams would be thinking of. I also was like a little like, "I'm not sure." And then what San Antonio has when beat, it just felt like, "Oh, well, if okay, C likes him, then I have to like him more." Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're San Presti's right almost every time, and maybe I shouldn't even use almost.

But, you know, that's their challenge. And the future is getting past San Antonio and the playoffs, and having that long arm, rim protecting big guy that can really pass. Like, and Mara can hit three. And he moves his speed pretty well. It's not like he and, you know, you're going to put him in the game and he and Wemin Yamager play one on one out of the perimeter for 48 minutes. But his passing

two years at UCLA and play all that much. And I think the way that that team went, you know, he kind of got to beat down a little bit. And he really emerged at Michigan and was a force. And I mean, blocked over a hundred shots. That was a Michigan record last year. So I think he's got a lot of a lot of ability. And I think they also got Bennett Sturts in that

draft in the first round last night. And, you know, Sturts is a good get, too. Like, I spent a lot of

time watching him, not only throughout the year, but after the season because it reminded me of when Kyle Corver came out of Creighton. And I learned a lot because I spent time, you know, talking to Dana Alman is coach at the time. And, you know, you know, this, like, he spent a lot of time, you know, on the negative, like, who's he going to guard? You know, that kind of thing. And that,

“I remember that being a big deal with Corver, who's he going to guard? You know, he don't have”

ladder of quickness. You know, what he played 15 years in the league and Sturts can shoot it. He's great in picking roles. He knows how to play. And I'm glad that's kind of trumping some of the question marks that you have with with every player. I loved him. So I think he can play more

off the ball, too. But he just would basically in charge of every possession. I love the way he

pushes, you know, you think about that Florida game. And it's like, this guy's totally comfortable and throw a bounce pass. Right. A bounce pass and transition. I also, I try to explain it, but it's almost like his feet are setting up. He's this feet in handle of setting you up, like in different ways where every single dribble or step is like, I may go now. I may not go now. I may go now. It's almost like there's just no wasted movement from him, which makes him a lot harder to stay in front of.

I think people realize because it's just this fluidness to him. And again, what like once Memphis looks like they're taking him. And then they pick up two seconds just to move back one. And then they move back again for all the five seconds. So shout out to Memphis, tacked on draft night. But I'm sitting here. I remember arguing with somebody about Sturts. And then, you know, who might argue with the guy with the scout of what I think is terrific. And then it's like, okay, well,

Presti just took him. You know, so yeah, there was there was two moments last night with with the DiMaro where I'm like, I kind of like him. And then you're thinking, okay, well, if they've got heart and steam, they have chat. I don't think they want to get away from that option. Even though there's a player option there with heart, Sourber, who I think we all really liked at Georgetown. And then he's in the mix. And Mara, you're like, okay, well, this is a team that has this roster

country. Maybe, or maybe they're just trying to come up with a bunch of different size combinations to deal with women, Yama, who may be in their way for a bunch of what's your conference playoff

“serons. I think he's probably the latter and you could put it in the game. It doesn't mean you have to”

start him. Sure. Put it in the game whenever you want. And you know, same thing with Sturts. Like, if you do have some concerns about defense, I mean, he's going to be on the floor with like four other paranas. I think he'll be fine. So I'm not, I'm not worried about that. I think those were both really good gifts. Yeah, look, Isaiah Joe was the guy that was attacked. If he's hitting 40 percent of his threes, it's fine. I think Sturts probably profiles initiate more than Isaiah Joe

does. So I love that you say that because I used to spend so much time watching defensive clips and possessions. And most, everyone is not ready. So it's kind of like a relevant. And yeah, you're right. If you had Sturts next to, I don't know, case and all, like, yeah, right. Your case and all is the better defender. I don't know the game is going to argue that point. Right. But the clippers aren't taking a bit five. You know, saying, like, our Garland Sturts,

let's roll them all out there. So there are certain teams that can survive with the one target defensively, depending on how your minutes are going, you know, look, some of the smart teams prevent that from happening. And sometimes teams get desperate and they're like, we have to put

“two guys out there. We don't love on defense. But I, I'm totally with you. I think too much time”

is spent on some of these prospects where like, oh, who's he going to guard and you just go, well, most of these guys are all clueless. What did they go out San Antonio on the other side, going with two bics? It was like, Terus Reed Jr. Right. They got, and who's he got? Yeah, don't know you got. Oh, Quentin's. Oh, Jaden Quentin's. Yeah, I, I actually thought Jaden Quentin's my slip into the

second round. If he were healthy, he would have been a lottery pick, I think. Yeah, he's a defensive

player that, as you know, has like unbelievable size, like he's just freakishly large. And his arms go forever as hands are huge. And when he was a Arizona state, you know, his shot blocker, offensive rebounder, defensive rebounder, you know, just affected the games that lengthen athleticism in so many ways.

outside of the paint. So right now, he's just a rebounder, you know, lob threat, and all that. But the physical profile is on tonight. Well, I just thought that knee, you know, he only played four games that can tucky. And what's expected to get a whole season is maybe it may be a slow

“start at the beginning, but expected to get a whole season. And he didn't. I think he's the first”

first round picks, since like Peyton Watson to average, you know, that few points. So they get

in four games, the average, you know, right around five points again. Peyton Watson when he got him came out of UCLA, average three. And, you know, chose like, you know, sit there and go productivity versus potential and all this stuff we do. And then Peyton Watson has turned out to be a really good player in the NBA. And I don't know that that quaintance needs, like he needs to develop some offense. But I don't know that he needs to turn into, you know, some offensive juggernaut in order for that to be worth it.

And then Terus Reed Jr., he's interesting because he doesn't score outside the paint, but man, he's huge. And he just kind of carves out space and a movable object type of player. And and he's a really good rebound. He started out in Michigan that transferred to UConn and had a good Jr. year, but he was, he was really good last year. And he can operate in systems where he has to set screens, role, make multiple plays within multiple actions.

So I like him. I think he's a good player. Let's go up to Morris Johnson. I mean,

“you have to think that like dusty may getting the maps job. It's like, hey, are we sure here?”

But they probably had journey the work and said, this is what we want to do. And then unless

Dusty were like absolutely not. He's the third prospect out of all my guys and maybe that influences

that a bit. But what did you think of Morris going to Dallas? I thought that was, I thought he was the one that was going to break up the pre-dicards. I thought it could have been to Atlanta at eight. I went, certainly wasn't sure. But they don't make them like him very often. He's just relentless. You know, started out at Illinois and didn't play a ton. He played, didn't play a ton, then he got hurt and transferred to Michigan. And you know, you talk about a defensive weapon

on the floor, not just sort of his length around the rim. And he's an excellent rebounder. He led Michigan in rebounding. But he can switch out on a point guard in any sort of stream role situation. And he can not only stay in front of them for a couple of dripples. He can flat on guard and so you don't have to worry about him. And I think his offense is, you know, he's locked right. He can really run and all that. But, you know, he's got a good touch. And I think he's going

to get better there. But man, when he takes above the basket, I mean, even that game against Duke and Washington DC, he took a bump going up and went up and just jammed it with two hands. I think it was booser. But just a ridiculous athlete, ridiculous length and a relentless, kind of relentless motor. So I really like him. I think he's, and that's one of the things Ryan, like, I probably softened out this over the years. Like, so the biggest surprise to me was

Dale and Swain going 50. You know, I had him in the 20s, you know, mid 20s or something like that. You know, he's not a shooter, but slasher and good in transition. He checks a lot of boxes. Well, you know, he led Texas and scoring rebounding assist and steals, I think. And, you know, but now you think about it and you're going, who cares where you rated him? If Chicago wanted him, you could argue that could have done what Memphis didn't trade it down.

But maybe that wasn't available. Take the guy you want. And so they got, you know, Chicago at Caleb Wilson, Dale and Swain. That's a good, that's a good haul for the bulls. But that's a different way that I've looked down over the years. Yeah. I think a lot of times we kind of lose our minds with like marks where we go. I really like him. It's like, okay, but he's

“he's supposed to go 10th and then you have to six pick. Like, you can't do that. Like, yeah,”

you're right. That'd be insane. I really like this guy. I can't possibly take him six or seven when he's projected to go 10th. I don't know. I think we lose. There's too many smart people that have convinced me over the years, especially when I was younger and so addicted to the mock drafts and everything. It's like if we didn't have mock drafts, this whole process would be different. Yeah, I believe that. And we'd be happier. Probably. Yeah, especially guys being

right. Can we, I have a couple of other thoughts here to finish. But I feel like I owe can't booze her a little bit more time here because, you know, when I watch Caleb Wilson, it took a while for me. You know, it took a little while because in the beginning, I got to know who, which scout told David Aldridge that Caleb Wilson reminds him of Kevin Garnet with a jump shot or I'm like, or Caleb, I would say it doesn't have the jump shot yet

and Garnet was like an incredible, like his touch was unbelievable. But honestly, Garnet should have

like a great shooter, we're like, oh, you know, there's some, the form looks okay there. He's not a

great handle. Oh, you know, he's going to get better at that. And that whole like being, if I'm going to be wrong, I'm going to be wrong big and I'm going to be wrong with an athlete as opposed to the other

“way around. What is it about Booser that maybe visually doesn't appeal to us as much as it should?”

Well, I think it comes down to him not being one of these wow athletes that comes out of the gym and plays above the rim all the time. He doesn't do that. But neither does Albert and Shengu or Nicole Yokech. I'm not saying he's like those guys. He's like him in some ways. But I, I felt like he was the best pure basketball player in the draft. You know, the productivity is undeniable,

but he's such a good passer and his processing skills in real time are so advanced. Not just for

his age, but really for any age. And I think he's going to do extraordinarily well in the NBA. I think he's like Will Cicale Wilson North Carolina. He's more explosive and more wow. And they're both great. Booser's the better overall player in my view. The one thing about Caleb Wilson that you just keep kind of when you watch him in practice or in games is like you can break down film to your early or point when you're going overboard or no overthinking it. You can break down film

and stop the film and go look. He's out of position here. He doesn't have vision on the ball. He's not doing, you know, he's not where he's supposed to be. He's not in a stance and go through this coach speak deal. And then he winds up making a plan anyway. He's got unbelievable hands and anticipation and he

makes incredible recoveries. And then, you know, on the offensive end, he's got a really good

shooting touch. He's a good passer too. He's not the passer in my view that Booser is. But like that turnaround jumper, he's got and when he looks like he's stymied where 90% of players would be stopped. He'll just he'll just find a way to get to get up and punch it on. Just make these explosive

“off the floor plays. So as he refines everything, he's got a chance to be great. I really believe that.”

But Booser's, he's not gonna fail. You're not gonna miss with him. And he's a better athlete than he gets credit for. Just because he's not a world class athlete, doesn't mean he's not athletic. So he'll be he'll be fine. He'll be really good in the league. He was so clearly the best player in the floor in that Michigan regular season game, you know, and that was great. He's still went higher than all the mission guys on the kind of stuff. It was just like, and, you know, there was times with all

three of these guys where I wanted to say, like, all right, now I like this guy the most book. I just came back to Peterson shot, making for me, where I'm like, they just don't. There's just not a lot of guys like this, even in the NBA right now. All right, a couple thoughts on the broadcast. Can you? Can you tell what a player is full of shit anymore? Yeah, I mean, I remember a buddy of mine that I used to work with when we were assistants at Duke

saying, boy, at this time of the year, everybody's Eddie Asple. And that reference is getting old, you know, kind of the kiss up that says the right thing. And then this light and some on fire, five minutes later, behind his parents back, you know, like things are scripted now and kind of players know what to say. So when you ask them, okay, what does this team get it? So they're getting a winner and a worker and all this other stuff, a chip on their shoulder. Sometimes you can tell,

but I think it's more watching them every day and seeing how they relate to their teammates, their coaches, things like that, how they carry themselves. And you know, like, to your point with Peterson, like one of the things about Peterson is he's a quiet, you know, man. And his words started getting parsed in the last couple of days. Like he had said, so this one was a beauty. He had said, somebody asked him, you know, getting watched the NBA

finals or something, he said, you know, I really didn't watch much of the playoffs live because I watch a lot of film, but he said, but I just got a new dog, you know, a doberman picture. And I've been new dogs. So I didn't really get a chance to watch a playoffs. And then you're

“starting to hear, well, he doesn't love basketball. And I think Anthony, remember Anthony Edwards said”

the same thing. He said he didn't, um, he didn't watch basketball. He watches football. Like he prefer to be an NFL player or something. People were kind of losing their minds and, you know, Edward worked out pretty well. And I think he's kind of the same thing here. Um, and he said, what, what other thing, please say, oh, we said, uh, he said he was a loner. And, you know, a few people were kind of going crazy over that. That, oh, you don't want a loner on in your locker room

everywhere he goes. Like, you know, like, so he's not a nightclub comic. Like when they played B, when Kansas played BYU and it was we, I did the game where we were trying to fill it BYU Kansas, right? And it turned out to be Peterson debates. So there was nothing we could do about it.

And maybe we shouldn't have done anything about it. But in the first half of that game,

Peterson at 18 points, three steals, he was six of eight from the field. At halftime, there was no debate with the better player on that day was. It was Peterson. And then with that cramping thing, he tapped out the second half didn't play. Still in in 18 minutes of playing time, he outscored Devonta for his whole game. And, uh, and, uh, but he, he left you kind of wanting more. And I don't know whether part of it was selfish that we were thinking, God, I want to see more of it.

And we didn't have a ton of information and the guy kind of got killed. But he played more games than Mike El Brown Jr. did at Louisville. And he had a back issue. And we didn't make that big of a deal out of it. You know, people were talking about Brown that is he going to shut it down and all that stuff that he gets 45 against NC State. So you kind of have to look at the whole picture and sometimes it's difficult. Yeah, that's some really good stuff on Peterson. And I remember too, like watching that game

that day, because I'm like, all right, this is one versus two. And, you know, there's just this moments where you go, don't debate this when it's, do not debate this, because this is, this is an static statement here. And then it unfortunately ends like it opens that window of like, okay,

“but if he's not going to come back and play in the second half, like, how do you take this guy number one?”

And you'd have to be good with all that stuff. All right, last thought of the broadcast. You know that I'm a huge nerd about this stuff. So I don't know that I'm ever going to be happy, happy. All right, but I think that with you Andrea with legs, Bobby Marx, obviously, Malica, like Manimorship, I think we're in a better position now than maybe some of the staffing in the past where I think there'd like it be a bigger name, but then that bigger name may just straight

up admit, like, hey, I didn't watch any of these guys, which would always, you know, I'd be like,

great. I can't wait to hang out with you for six hours. So I think that the people, this is staffed the right way. And with Lisa, the priority seems to be on family, that this is a family moment and we're going to do this. And who am I to say here and say that it's like, I don't actually want to be raising my hand saying, you know what, I don't want it to be that. But is there, is it a challenge at all for you? Because I'm thinking about you, you guys on the desk, is it challenging for

“you at all to like, to go from, are we doing more on how this player fits with this team?”

Or are we doing more that this is a surprise? Are we doing that they should have done this here? I don't know that there's as many like moments and maybe it's all of us are nicer, so you don't want to be on the desk going. I can't believe they took this guy. He thinks there's seven better, there's seven players better than you and legs like start going at it. But I wonder

with the structure of this first round now, if it goes away from some of those like older

draft moments where you just have a disagreement about basketball after a pick? Yeah, it's kind of a balance. So, you know, I like all of it. Like I like digging deep on the players and then the teams and how the player fits in and then, you know, within the draft too. Like, but I've softened on this too. Like, I can't remember the year, but, you know, the next took Ronaldo Altman, number 21 or something and Rijon Rondo was still on the board. And I thought Rondo

was the best guard in the draft. He was Sebastian Kelfer and taken a number 13 and I didn't think he was any, I didn't think he was better than Rondo. In fact, I thought Rondo was a lot better than him. And I kind of lost my mind on the air. And I've done that a few times over players. And I would have done it differently. Now, I would have said, try to convey the same point, but do it in a better way. But I remember years ago, Jerry West coming to me saying,

you know, why are you killing some of these guys when they get drafted? You know, this is the biggest night of their lives. And, and, you know, I kind of said, well, I get that, but at the same time, you can't say everybody's great when you don't think they are. And I remember a player for BYU

“got drafted, like number eight, Rafael Erujo. And honestly, right, I didn't think he was NBA player.”

And I said so at the time. And I think I said it in a better way than I said stuff about Ronaldo Ballman, but, you know, so there's that. And, you know, so you want to be, you want to strike the right tone. But one of the things I've enjoyed over the last few years is I've kind of softened on, I like the interviews, like in the emotion of it. But it's like anything else. You don't want to take anything too far or all that stuff. But like, like, when they're crying and their parents are crying,

you know, my dad would have, if we had Zulfos, my dad would have cried. If I got, you know,

stuff. But, you know, there is a dream come true aspect to it. And then tomorrow, you know, now it's business. And you got to prove yourself. And so you try to balance it. It's a hard balance.

“But I think our crew does pretty good job. You're right. Because as I get older, when there's a guy”

waiting around, I feel sympathy, you know, yeah, I've never felt before, you know, and I just know,

I just know how I was in my 20s, talking on the air. I know, you know, 30s, as you get older. It's probably nicer that we all get a little softer about the whole thing. But well, yeah, when I say softer, I don't mean, I don't mean I'm not conveying the same thoughts. You know, like I think our job is to say the right thing at the right time in the right tone. And the tone part is kind of what I've talking about. Like, why would I be angry, or come across as

angry if the next take Ronaldo Bachman over Rajan Rondo? I could just point out, look, Rondo is the better player. I don't think this was the right pick. But they must see something that I don't see. You know, you could you could do it in a way that that didn't make it look like I was a personally affronted by the next choice that year.

“I enjoyed that ball from breakdown. And then how about this? Like, you know, the being okay?”

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a good, but you could have gotten him in the second round. It was my choice or my point. And then you're passing on Rondo, who I thought was a lot of repink. And, you know, stuff like that. But, you know, these days, maybe maybe it's just because I'm older and I don't have the energy to do it. But I wouldn't lose my mind over it.

I can't wait for tonight. Day two, let's get it. And as always, I appreciate you finding some time for us

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He was a nice boy though. He guess he was Kyle. Yes, he was. The gear train rolls on for our guys. The Rudy. Fresh off the US open. New lid. Fresh off a mumford and sons. He would have a humped. This is actually a great shirt. I think you would like this. I was at Fenway. So it's, you know, Mumford and sons Fenway park. Pretty cool. It's great. It's like the third fourth time we've seen him. It was pouring basically the entire time until about an hour before the show started stopped.

I actually met two different guys who stopped me and were like, hey, man, fan of the show. This is awesome. Love you, Silo. You're doing your thing. So let's get this fun. Is that weird for you? No, not at all. I, you know, I enjoy it. Like I'm sure, you know, we keep it moving. I try to have a little

I'm jealous of wife. Like, she appreciate this. She liked this because you're on cast all the time.

She's more chatty than I am. So half the time. I feel like she ends up talking them more than I do. So it works out kind of well. It's cool to be able to do it with your wife and that stuff happens. She mostly enjoyed since LA. I'll tell you. So you, you've been in the mix at the golf thing and then get stocked at Mumford and sons. Like, yeah, a little jealous. Good for you. I love that. Like the importance we're walking with our wife and some of it's like, dude, you're the best.

It's like, nah, you're the best. See? Yeah, you go. Now, she knows, she knows. But, uh, but

“now I think she, she was definitely pumped. The US open set up was great because she now, it's like,”

you know, those guys hooked us up and we were, we were just, you know, regular and just people in the stands of Fenway. I tell you what though. Fenway, man. I hadn't been, I couldn't remember the last time I went. God, the place is awesome. The entire time I'm there, we're walking through the under, you know, the underneath concourse. I'm like, I got to watch the town again. I just have to rewatch it. It's possible to be drill. We got to do it. Feel it. It was coyote. Good. Good use of car.

I just got stuck on the wife thing. It must be really cool. Awesome. It is cool. I'm not to rub it in, but yeah, walking around. It must be great if you're in an argument with your wife, which I know

never happens to you guys. But if you've been in an argument with your wife and then you just randomly

launching somebody's like, "Sir, you're the best." And then you just go, "What?" See, he appreciates me. No, it's not like that at all, but, you know, Kyle, that's never happened. I don't think those timelines have ever lined up. No. That would be awesome though. That would be sweet one day. Yeah. Nobody at Tosh stopped you? No. No, but Tosh did talk a bunch of shit about mumforted songs, which is so funny. That's where you went. Yeah, I get it. They're an easy target. That's fine.

“Yeah, what's going on with him lately? I've seen some criticism in the trades. No, I think,”

I don't know, in the trade. No, I think it's just more of like a, you know, that like millennial style of music. I don't think they're stomp clap. They're not stomp clap, but like, I think they get into that thrown into that category. Like, it's just kind of like, easy to dunk on now for like the Gen Z people. When it's like, "Hey, man, I don't know. We're just selling out Fenway. I feel like you're doing all right." He lost a ton of weight to. He's like,

really hot now. And he's also married to a movie star, so he's got a good thing going. Gary Mulligan, I believe is his wife. He's really hot now. Yeah, he used to be kind of like chubby and, you know, just like a chubby British dude. And now he's like, kind of hot. He lost a ton of weight. He's got a chisel jawline. Looks good in a t-shirt. It's pretty good. Let's look this side. Who's he? Is it isn't it? Mark's wise? The main guy. Well, yeah, the main guy's Mark's Mark's Mark. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Look, I saw a little side by side there. Right, and dropped 30 stones. Yeah, he looks like he could be one of those werewolves in true blood. Oh, I don't know. I think you listen, I think you look better. Thick. He was thick boy. Yeah, he lost 66 pounds of zest. There you go. Right. Which is kind of crazy because like, so one of his bits was, and he did this when we saw him at four skills in Queens. One of his bits for one of the songs,

he basically runs around the entire venue. Right. And like, you know, not that he should have

been in better shape, but it's like, man, you're like doing concerts, singing, jumping around,

“running around these stadiums. Like, that's a lot of work. Like, I feel like you should be ripped”

doing that. So well, there's a calorie deficit now. But what happens after the show? That's the, you know, that's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure the pines start flowing. They will have it boss and two. They're making Scotland jokes about like the scots brought the rain and the English are here to make everybody happy. It was pretty funny. Just a world cup. They were obviously big England fans. So they were talking about the world cup the whole time. But oh, they're English.

Now I'm out again. What do you think they were? I don't know. I had no idea. I thought they were from the 70s. I love for it. It sounds, I don't know. I actually know. It sounds like an old, it sounds like a classic rock. Right. I'll do a little thing. Oh, you know what? He wasn't, this picture tells me that he wasn't hotter than he could for him. He's hotter now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, there's a bunch of stuff. I'm reading all this stuff. There's a lot of decisions

that went into it. So good for him. But this one where he swapped out sugary sweets to surf. I don't know that I buy that. All right. Like a mama's going to handful. Wait a minute. We get some nice, nice left to write out there. And again, the water. That just seems to be, look. I don't know. I think everybody knows what's happening with this weight loss thing. Significant like massive weight loss. And so nobody wants it. It's kind of like

being in Silicon Valley and all of a sudden being fucking jacked in a Marvel movie. And you're like, what, what happened to like, I just worked in my core like crazy. Yes. No, I just, it's, it's, it's. We don't, we don't know if you can sell it. We don't do that. I don't think it's anybody. I guess. I think it's, I think it's really misleading when people talk about like either losing weight or getting jacked and they act like they just didn't, you know. Yeah. There's a

over at a, at a friend's place, my wife's friends in Long Island for the U.S. Open, it was a big like fitness household, some military people that were there. Really cool people. But they're like, really to fit this and the diet thing. And they're in on the cottage cheese. Rough snacks. Hard boiled eggs and freaking yogurt. And I just, my life would just be so much easier if I like cottage cheese and Greek yogurt. And I just don't, I just don't. Because now,

like, any recipe you look up now is just, all right, blend up cottage cheese and put it in the thing for more protein or like you have some Greek yogurt. And I just, I don't like either of them.

And it sucks. Dump some honey on there. I guess I'm never going to be fit.

Cottage cheese is just a tough, tough fridding. That's all.

“All right. I think that took long enough. Let's see here.”

Am I psyche myself out of a great relationship 32 years old, 5, 8, 165. My girlfriend and I've dated for, and I have dated for three months. Things are moving fast. First relationship or I can really see it going to distance. One thing that's simmered under the surface is if I'm hotter than my girlfriend and if that even matters. This thought loop was revived by one of Ryan's notoriously sudden episode enders when he mentioned the emailer was hotter than his wife that

gets hit on by the neighbor. We have not heard back from that guy at all. So many of them all together. But really what we're going to do to us. Yeah. Yeah. See, so he's got me here. I mean, he just was a month-old in a sense, but it shouldn't be hot guys, because life wasn't like, like, you know, no, she was a trash. Well, you know, it's loud. She was a he's just kind of like good looking sharp jawline. Yeah. I mean, so we're just going to dial in the jawlines right now. Every guy wants

“to be the richer in their relationship as do I. I don't know if that's entirely true.”

I mean, yes, I get that it's like I'd rather. I don't know. I mean, maybe you'd rather be in a house for people who are like, are you granting? And then when you tell me about it, they're like, damn it. All right. I've had bouts of where I've outkick my coverage despite my compact frame. I am left wondering if these thoughts are a natural progression now that the chase is gone or something else. As an aside, and we were getting a lot of these. So Rudy is great on the, it's just soccer

pod. Thanks, man. I just, uh, a lot of trouble today. So what have you got? Uh, basically second

round of group stage games. We did like pretend or contender situations. And then we actually started, like, kind of, I don't know if you saw a day for noise tweet about how, like, he thinks that he could score in his 20s, like a bunch of goals. The world cup is all they do is feed the strikers. So he's like, if I was in my 20s, I would score. So he's been a good amount of time on that, which was fun. Well, that sounds exciting. All right. Check your emails because he sent in some pictures of his,

“send me every himself and a significant other. Okay. I think he's better looking than his girlfriend.”

Nice smile, though. Yeah. He's pretty close. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're closer than you think. You look good. He looks good. He looks good enough. And that third picture I'll give him that. But again, it's not like we're not talking about, but she has to make it up before. Does he though? Yeah, let me say. Yeah. He's got pretty good teeth, too. I don't know. It's tough. He looks fit, too. Yeah. This is, he looks like he's going in and out of this mustache thing,

which is just getting. It's much less than starting to really like take off. This is three months in, though. It's not like you woke up one day. Like, oh, no. She's not, she has a different outlook on health and wellness than I do. Like, there's three months in. Like, this is good. This is good enough for you. I think. Right. If you're happy, everything else is good. If you're just like wondering if, if you're, you know, a little bit further

along than she is in the hotness scale, that's, that's silly. It's not like you woke up one day and like, we just, we have, we don't look, we don't look like we used to. And I don't like the way you look now. It's not that. It's like, you're just, you are in your own head, safe to say. Yeah. Like, you're in the same ballpark. I wouldn't say it like, you know, you're a one seed. And she's a 16. Like, it's, I don't know. Like, is it a two degree situation? I don't know.

It's not that's the bigger issue. Like, why are you sending this in? Yeah. It's a little, I try not to, try to keep it surface level with our, our friends, the listeners, but yeah, it's a good boy. Like, you heard me say that about the Southern email and you're like, damn it. This has been on my mind. So it looks like. So you sent us three pictures of you and your girlfriend. You've been dating three months. And what happens? What if we're all like,

oh, my God, dude, you're so much harder than you're going to dump her first day? They don't

think the bigger issue could be that that's, that's like a thing that you would do. You guys look pretty close and height too. That's a nice thing to have.

All right. Oh, okay. If anyone else tells you this, then maybe wonder, but I don't I think he's like, this guy in your head. This guy thinks it's significant and it's a problem. And he's like,

“am I am I am I am I avoiding like a higher ceiling? That's what this guy is doing. Yeah,”

clearly, because he's been thinking about this this much. I don't think it's, I don't think anybody's going to stop you in the street and go, oh my God, what are you doing, man? What happened? Yeah. Yeah. She's right. I would agree. I would agree. Tough scene for her too. We bummer to happen. I mean, if it's in your head, it's not great. It's going to be in there, probably forever. That doesn't, this is one of the things that just goes away. So,

I'm sorry to say, I would delete this email, too. I would just screw up, screw up, whatever, but it's there. It's all right. There's your life talking about people on the other end. Shall we knock him down a peg, though? I mean, I guess, you know, hey, like he was 62, maybe it'd be different. It's five eight. Oh, wow. Let's see now. I can say this. I'm not, I'm the shortest guy on the pot. I could say this. Well, he brought it up, too.

I'd say there's something about it. Like, the more you look at her, the cuter she gets.

“Just cute. Yeah. Yeah. First one. Yeah. You're kind of like, what's going on?”

But yeah, I mean, he's got, he's got one really good picture in there. All right. I can't keep doing this to the audience, because they're like, uh, Exco from holding my stuff hostage to pay for a whole in the wall. First time, right in, trying to get into lifting, but mostly a runner, 135, half marathon, personal record, 26. That's good age to be worrying about holes in the wall. I was just going to say, yeah, but it's kind of number

once you've got 42. And there's an issue. Living in Pacific Northwest City just had a breakup after three year relationship. Here's the situation. It was a mutual breakup. Just do the timing and what we want, wanted where we are in life. And while it was emotional, we ended on good terms. It suddenly, my ex has got a little rogue. About a year and a half ago, she had all my friends over at her apartment after an afternoon of day drinking downtown. My ex had to leave her friend's birthday

left for two of her friends and let me hold down the place with my group of friends. We never

lived together. To meet up with her later, we were all pretty drunk. So it wasn't really dialed in on everything that was going on. Next morning, ex and I woke up at her place in a roommate texted a picture of a massive hole in the wall. And immediately asked what happened after she left and why I didn't tell her, I told her I had no idea that didn't land well. I faced time my friends that were with me on the spot to see if they had any clue about how one foot wide hole was created

last night. Two of my friends mentioned they were wrestling in a living room. Yep, now they can start. Case closed. I love case closed. You know, we don't know, but there was an impromptu

“intercontinental belt matchup where we did build a ring. We were struggling a little bit. I think we were”

over near the coffee table though. I don't think that was us too. Yeah, I mean, we were wrestling, but at whole, that doesn't sound like us. We would have no rock on my t-shirt, so yeah. Yeah,

yeah, sure that hole wasn't there before. I thought I'd remember some. I've never seen

like I saw a crazy hole. Oh, this would have made me so sick to my stomach as the emailer just like God damn it. This is my fault. All right. So, they mentioned they weren't at the Senate. It's good to see the work. They mentioned they were wrestling interliving away. It might have smacked the wall, but could not confirm. I ended up patching the whole up myself the next day. It looked fine, but it never matched the original paint pattern. Anyway,

fast forward to today. She texted me three weeks after the break up telling me she had my stuff close random things that I'd left there wanted to give it back, but then dropped the text. Also, if you could start planning the wall repair, that would be appreciated. The first thought I had was that I'd already fixed it at the time. She told me not to worry about the paint part.

I told her that she said she can figure it out. The problem is I quickly expressed that

over text and haven't heard back. I made a massive mistake. I followed a few days later to plan on picking up my clothes. She doesn't respond to try a few more times. Nothing. I'm worried if I'll never get my clothes back. Usually I wouldn't care, but I have a couple hundred dollar plus items I'd like to get back. Hey, man, that's a pricey item. I'd want it back. That sounds like you had a whole drawer there. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, that's not like a hoodie

draped over a chair. You got to get that some banana republic monogram button down. Sounds like it, but I'd like to get back plus a sentimental shirt from a deceased family member that she's 100% aware of. All right, you know, sounds like a game day special. I'm afraid she's holding

my stuff back, but definitely do not want to pay for this stupid paint pattern fix. By the way, shout out to Seruti, it's just soccer pot. It's been awesome. Super in a row. Nice. Who in a row? Who in a row? Sorry. That's the longest. That's awesome. Appreciate you, guys. It's been a great

work. There's a million of them. Huh, this is the nation. I thought I knew what this was and the fact

that she's gone silent makes me think that it's not it's not like I want to string this attention thing along a little bit. Be happy to ruin your day for a little bit. Just want you to think about me, whether it's good or bad. You know what I mean? But he said, and I'm amicable breakup, and now that she's gone silent after he was like, put evil push back on the on the repair fee, I'm not sure I know what this is anymore. You might just have to, can you do that part yourself?

The paint pattern? Is there a way that he tried? You could do it in one, well, he said he didn't try the paint. He just, he said it didn't match and she was like, don't worry about it. Now it's

“like now the rules have changed fine. That's what you can expect when there's a breakup even”

good or bad, but can you try to do this thing yourself and then maybe at least do a half-ass job

and then grab your stuff on the way out of there, you know, and not in a mad dash situation,

just sort of like, all right, here we go. The silence makes me think that like, she's not fucking around. This isn't, this isn't like I want to talk to you again. This is something else. Yeah, this feels like her friend just in her ear, just being like, and you can get this, you hold this over his head, like you can get, you know, a lot. It's like, all right, cool. Like, we were, we thought we were done with this and now we're not done with this because you saw

an advantage that you could take to get your wall fix. I get it, you know, I'd be pissed to you if I think didn't match and like somebody came in, did a half-ass job, that you tried your best. I'm sorry, but like if it doesn't look the same, I'd be annoyed. Do you, I don't know, man. Do you, it seems like you're not getting your stuff without fixing this thing. So,

you're living in your buddies at all and be like, hey, this is the situation I'm in. Like, I,

I, I, my three months after being held hostage and like you guys clearly did this. Like, could we just work something out? We're like, maybe we split this or we tag team the paint situation. Like, what do we do? Because I don't think there's that, like, they have no reason to give your clothes back. They hold all the power of the situation. So, you kind of have to play their game.

“I can imagine asking my friends months later. It's like, hey, remember that thing that”

I told you was actually fine. Uh, it's actually not. Do you guys want to kick it a couple bucks? No way. But you like, no way. But that sucks. I mean, I understand like being younger and stupid. And this is now half my age. But to go to guys and be like, hey, the thing you broke, I now have to pay for. So you're totally okay with that because of what timing? It's this in five years later. You, you all know the deal. We broke up. And chances are if you're

a guy at 26 that want a different things than what she wanted at 26, that means that she's annoyed with you. Okay. Most likely, you can say it's mutual. I am like a bold different places in our lives. But if she was like willing to be like, I could marry this guy. I want to have kids and you're like, nah, I'm just going to chill and play video games until I'm 35 and then I'll walk in a waitress. You know, like, what a lie. Well, in the tree. So my, my fear for you is like,

you're, you've actually like handled this thing the right way. I don't know if your paint match

“guy is, I think it over Sherman Williams. I mean, I want to go, you might want to go to like a real”

mom and pop place and like I get a dilemma. You know, it's a vintage brownstone walk up and they go, oh, my God. Civil war yellow. And I'm going to make it anymore. So I would explain to her, hey, I want to make this happen. I want to get my stuff back. I would go to the guys, be like, hey, can you help me out here? I also think if you like handle the paint match the right way, you shouldn't be out like hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Right. It should be like fairly. I think this

is a $200 or under thing. And I do think it's something that sucks to your friends. We're like, I don't know if it's being hung over the next day with like, oh, maybe that you can, I remember some rough housing, but nothing, nothing of that level. It's like, guys, you 100% did it. I wasn't even there when you did it. Can you help me out here? And if they say no, because of timing of this whole thing, well, it wouldn't be timing. It would be that you already said, no, I fixed it. It's all right. You

guys just got you almost really. It almost got me in hot water there. And then now it's going to be months later. But again, if they're all 26 dudes with their finances of 26 are, it's a it's a wide birth. So I mean, if they're, if they're good 26, and like, yeah, of course, but if they're like, they're bigger than what'll win tonight. Yeah, we're it's bad 26. It's like, I, yeah, I thought we were good. Like, I've already put my conscious of it. 80 bucks is a lot for me to stand over to you right now.

There's there's something to be said about like after breakup of, of having like a thing where the person has to like check in with you, you know, I agree. So that's probably what's happening here. Your friends should understand that. Maybe they don't understand it because they're 26. So

where you don't see him unreasonable. Because the fact that she's gone silent and now you're thinking more and more about this stuff. Yeah, I try to, I try to at least keep it cordial to you can figure

“out where we don't even know where we're standing right now. I think it'd be nice to know where we're”

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“which I think I'm going to have to also send emails. All right. Yeah, very interactive life advice today.”

Has to do with cats. So don't worry about it. Audience, if you feel like you're being left out. Okay. Catverse toddler is re-homing a viable option. This sounds like a Dave Ramsey email or something. I don't know if we're watching a lot of his clips lately. Are you? Yeah. I see people make fun of them all the time. I'm like, so this guy's just been bad at it for this many decades or is everybody just being a prick? This is a different segment. I don't know

if it's a July. What do people like anymore? Well, right? I mean, I know you could say to a degree.

This has always been the case. I don't know that it's ever been worse than right now.

You know, like Dylan Harper can have a huge final game and then somebody quote tweets. It's be like, yeah, too bad about his uncle being a war criminal in Bosnia. You're like, what? If I can serious, I can't like Dylan Harper's final. And by the way, that is not true. But I mean, it's just unhinged. Yeah, short windows for a hundred percent approval. That's for sure. Yeah. Oh, what's mess is pretty high right now, right? I feel like most people like messier

Renaulto guy. I don't know. Yeah, the round the guys are, I feel like those those are fake people on the internet though. Those were all those stand-puts. I don't know. I got a buddy, Paul. They're probably not. I just have a hundred. I got a couple buddies that are definitely Renaulto guys and not in the wrong. You would even maybe say anti messy guys. So I don't because they feel like they have to be. They

“feel like they have to be. Do you know anyway? I think it's where we're all time”

lows of liking anything. As soon as like one little thing that happens, it's kind of like nice. You know, but it also could be just the vague tweet move of like trying to then get somebody to click on your profile because you're like, is Dylan Harper's uncle a war criminal in Bosnia? Like, that wasn't that wasn't true. By the way, there's been a little motion on that Freddy guy. Maybe being full of shit. I know. Oh, I knew that out right away. All right. Yeah.

I know. I'm right about one two point. Oh. We're such dupes. We're such dupes. Ken bones on one show. He's got a red sweater and it's like man, Ken bones demand like four days later. He's like this guy sucks. And he has stopped. Yeah. He had some stuff that you were like, I don't know. I want to be associated with Ken bone. But it's like, why did you like him so much from one question? Because he was a little portly. His sweater looked like he had it a while. And it was like, oh, man, nine bones.

Ken bones all of us. Wednesday. Joe Plores and second thought.

All right. Catverse toddler six six six six eight. No, I'm skin six one 85. No Jim stats. It's currently have a one year old son in a wife who is 20 weeks pregnant. I'm happy to fit in 100 push-ups and a two mile run a few times a week. I'm happy that you get to do that. And be a company that's up at Julia. So about six months into our marriage, my wife's childhood cat died. I did not have any pets growing up. So I had no idea what losing a pet was like and frankly,

I didn't see why it was a big deal for my wife. It was a huge deal. Wait. Do I need to read that one again? No. No. I know exactly what he's talking about. Done a few times. Let's couple years. For my wife was a huge deal. After a couple of days of being distraught over Charlie the cat dying, she decided we needed a cat thinking this decided to

start. No, it's hoping she'd find something to entertain her with. We're being bummed out every weekend. That'd be great. Whatever stop. I don't want to talk about this again. 20 hours a weekend. Why don't you get a pet? I don't keep you busy. I love you and I love football. To weeks later, she was sending me photos of kittens for sale and I caved in. All right. In fact, I told her if we're going to get the one cat we may as well get too. So they have a buddy. Again, this guy has never no idea about

pets like he has zero on you. What to? Yeah, it's thrown on. Well, logo confirmation. Again,

I'd never owned a pet before. So I had no clue what I was getting into admittedly. The first

year of having kittens was great. Just about every photo of my camera roll. That year was of the kittens. It was certainly a lot of work. But I had some fond memories watching Macsion on a Tuesday night. Well, two tiny kittens cutled up on my chest. Fast forward two years. We now have a 12-month-old son running around the house and another baby on the way in five months. Ever since we had a kid, the cats have not been the priority, rightly so. But instead of a fun distraction, they become quite

the burden. Frankly, these cats are painting my ass. They tear up the furniture shed for everywhere and track litter all across the house. Now that my son is crawling, he frequently has a litter or fur on his hands and it's tried to eat cat food on multiple occasions. On top of that, one of the cats is cost is 1200 bucks this year to treat his UTIs. The other cat throws up on the floor multiple times a week. Sounds like you get a couple of dud cats, man. Or sounds like

your wife doesn't really have the understanding of a salary cap on a year for a cat. We're going 1200 UTIs. So, I don't know. That's the tough one for a guy who's like, well, obviously we're not going to spend more than this and the other person's like, "What are you talking about? I'm going to open up a line of credit." Like, there's two kinds of people and if they're together, I give me tough. Yeah, but I mean, you're talking about, this isn't about getting weaved

into the cat becomes a free agent somewhere else. This is sort of like, yeah, we're committed. We're pocket-headed. Well, you can't be like, "Hey, if it's north of

“three grand, we're putting it down." Yeah, sorry. It's what we got. Yeah, okay. Well, that's what I'm”

think that Kyle's saying and I was kind of like, I'm saying there's usually one guy that's thinking that way. Another question is, "You're out of your mind." You can't take the cat hit, huh?

I'm going to put this in the second apron. Oh, these analogies. I don't have very few options after that.

All right. We're waving, stretch it. What does that mean? All right. Sure, they have their moments where they nestle up next to you and you enjoy the presence, but it's pretty clear that the cons outweigh the pros by wife came to me the other day and said we should re-home them. I didn't even know that was an option, but I've been looking for what you've gained societies in our area, it seems like a fairly normal thing to do. It's just to know anything. You just didn't know,

well, I didn't know that. I didn't know where you get them. I didn't know you could get them. Let me be great if you could just do what people. I kept it with you guys for like four months.

“I think we need that. We're home to a roommate, Brian. Yeah, we just did that. Let's see if we can”

keep sleeping sandwiches out. Like seven of us. We're just, we're not saying we'll never take

them back. I don't know how I can just get to say what I'm here. You guys are closer to the park. That would be just the interview process. Hey, what's going on? Brian's great now. But your roommates have to bring you in, right? You couldn't do it on your own. Yeah, I want you to hand over your leg first. Like this isn't the Denis office. But tell us a little bit about yourself, Brian. Say it's been a rough year's putting it mild.

All right. All right. I don't know that that was that funny. But now I have tears. My question is this. All right. Do we suck it up and give up these cats after three years or we smart to cut mate before our kids have any emotional attachment? Appreciate any feedback. Love the show.

“Keep up the good work. If you want to cats hit me up, photos attached. They're good looking cats.”

I'll say that. One of those look like an absolute fur ball. I can see why he'd be a little bit annoyed with the fur. So interesting that his wife, the cat person, is the one who pitched this idea. I thought it's would have been his, his doing like how do I, how do I get this across the finish line. But it sounds like, I mean, this guy's screaming a lot bunch of different ways. Get to. Yeah. That seems, seems tough. I got to be honest. I hate this. I'm one of those people.

Like you keep keep the animal. Like because you bring this thing with the he made society. They're just going to sit and, you know, in a cage for however long. And, you know, I don't know, people do adopt, I guess, older cats. But usually it's the situation that gets taken first. So like, I don't know, there's situations probably going to suck. You're going to be able to live to yourself probably. It seems like you don't really care. I just think it's kind of lame that you're

talking about. There's just possibility. I'm to be honest. I mean, you've got to come. Well said.

“Yeah, I think that's probably what we were all thinking. You got a couple. I mean, I don't want to”

like, wasn't. I do want to. I wasn't. I was a bit disappointed. So good on that. Could you retrofit that retrofit your house? That sounds crazy. But is there a place you could make it more desirable for them to be? And then maybe that's a room that gets the deep clean every once in a while.

Like, you know, there's always the most people would think this is crazy. But there's the inside

outside cat option. I don't know what kind of what you're working with there. You know, you just need to have some dark off from the side, though. Be like, I actually know you're an outdoor cat figure it out. Sometimes it takes a little while. Yeah. I mean, if kittens usually grow up for a half to figure it out, they have to. So I mean, so I think there's a couple of options here outside of the drastic, you know, re-home situation. So I don't know. I'd think about what

kind of space you have and what you can do with it. There's ways to maybe not have them be in your face and making mess all the time. But I don't know. Cats kind of do with the fuck they want. Yeah, I will say, you know, obviously, I've said I've got two dogs in the cat. Cat, we don't really

“see a ton. It kind of is the meat, the lowest maintenance of the animals. Dude, you need to get a dog.”

And the cats will be, you know, not through that. I would definitely not available. I will not do that. Love you, girl. Not, not, not your best friend. But there is a, there is, like, when you have kids, so we had two dogs before we had kids. And then when you have the kids, like, it is kind of sad, because you just, there is a neglection of the dogs. And then you can kind of see a rise. And you just have less time there. I'm like, it is what it just sucks. Like, you just have less time like, hey, man,

like, I can't go for the amount of walk. Actually, we went for like, I can't, you know, we're not going

to play fetching the background all the time as we used to. And it is kind of like, I've just never

know like new parents tell you is like, if you do have pets, like, it does, it is kind of sad initially.

“And then they just kind of get used to it. I think. And then they start playing with the kids and”

becomes fun again. So it, it comes around. Go tell you. You can tell your dog was like, hey, not really. We're not really putting in the numbers that we used to. We have one dog. We have one, we have what doxin who takes, we, what we show he sucks the yard of every room he's in, because he's just like the most self is dog at self

ish dog ever. Like, he just always will figure out a way to be next to you under a blanket and

doesn't care. And the other one is like a little bit more timid. He's the bigger one. And he's the one. You can tell like, it's kind of, you got a little sad there for a year or two. But now, the girls are like old enough where they can like mess around with them play and it's fun. He, I think he said, like, a second lease on life, I guess. He's 10 years old. He's 10 years old. He's 10 years old. He's just different, man. Like, he just tell the kind of

ropes around a little bit. It was like, hey, this is like we start dives. Maybe it was a pile of lorry with the heat, not over yet. It's like, yeah. All right, there are a couple options there then. Yeah, it's a really, that was some great delivery. That person did not complement you on the podcast. It's just for the record. I don't want Kyle to get freaked out. We went 33 on that. That'll do for the show today. Thanks a Tom. Thanks Kevin. Thanks this really. Thanks to Kyle,

the writer's a little show. Our story sports. Cheers.