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He puts together this exhaustive exercise. It's Mike Sando. Good to see you. That's time of year. Thanks for doing this. It is. It's great to get you on a Monday, a refresh, shot of the weekend, hopefully, and not really far.

And plus, I've had time to kind of like process the, you know, think through things. So you got me at a great time. I could do two hours on this as we know, but to move through it, let's do the top, let's do the top 10, and then, you know,

like you always do, take this in any direction where you think that's the most important

stuff. But we start at the top with Mahomes getting 49 of the 50 tier 1 votes. And then I have to imagine your editors use that quote as Mahomes being a 2 at the top to get everybody to like, go wait a minute. What am I reading here? But at that point, we've already clicked on. So it's here now in Allen's 48 tier 1, 2 tier 2.

I just don't know how anyone can have it. Either of these guys, but I guess the bigger question is, have you felt like there is a very definitive Mahomes to Allen's shift here,

“even though in this exercise, Mahomes is still technically number one?”

Yeah, here's what I think like, if people are being honest, a one game matchup against Allen is a tougher matchup. Take away the knee injury for my home, let's just say you had to play one game. Don't make it a super bowl where we start bringing in okay playoffs and all that. But if you're playing a game on paper, Josh Allen's a tougher matchup, right? But does that make him a better quarterback yet? I don't think people are really

going there. But they are looking at the chief saying, hey, we understand, no run game, we understand the weapons are bad. But can we have another, you know, great, we have a great season from this offense again. It's been a while, even though they rank top 10 and they've won a ton of games, we know it doesn't look the same. I think he'll just realize with Mahomes it's not like he's falling off physically. Other than the injury now, he's got to come back from that. But he's not

end of career, you know, Peyton Manning, who can't sling it or he's not end of career, Drew Breeze, who's lost his fastball. I mean, he's just a pointless career. I think as one of the people I talked to mentioned, you know, Joe Montana was there. He won two more MVP's and Super Bowl.

Yeah, and we're also talking about the guy again, had 49 of the 50 tier one vote. So it's

out like he ended up fourth in this should be tier list. But I am of the belief, he's 32, right? Or 31 in September. Excuse me. Yeah. There's no way this is it. But it is now three years at this. And I remember going into last year and listening to people talk about like Alan surpassing Mahomes and I just went, look, I don't care what the stats are. Like we can't, we can't do that yet.

“Because for a game, I imagine Mahomes is still the most brutal guy that you have to prepare for.”

That was after Super Bowl loss. Now, when you throw in what we just saw from both of them in this last season, I also think like on the other side of it, it's entirely fair. And it's kind of like a reminder, like Mahomes hasn't been Mahomes for three years. He hasn't had over 30 touchdowns with three straight seasons. I think this scramble rate that you bring up last year, there's a 9% scramble rate. And it's like,

that's actually what he doesn't want to do. So then it speaks to the issues that they've had to tackle. It speaks to the issues that they've had to try to figure out any receiver. Obviously, with Kenner Barker coming in, they feel like, okay, do we have like an actual running back? You can take the load off of this guy. So when I've watched the games, I understand why the stats have declined. And I don't think it's somebody at this

young of an age where Stafford's 38 and I'm thinking like, do you really want to think that

Mahomes is never going to be that guy again? Like, I can't get there even if a year ago,

I was probably way more defensive of the Mahomes Allen conversation. We're now I'd have more of an

“open mind about it. Yeah, I agree with you. I think, look, if they were both on a Hall of Fame”

Ballad right now, then they'd choose one of them. We're choosing Mahomes. He's got the whole body of working all of that, but we're all that three years matters. You know, and I think he's his scrambling and running around has been staining them. It's like the guy who's got his head above the water and underneath, it's thrashing wildly to be there. There's a lot of stress. He's like, he's at the red line to be there. And you don't necessarily think he's going to go under,

but like he's not walking on water like he was already in his career. And that's just the way that it is. So I, he did, he, and Josh Allen did this too. They did these long, long term contracts where they got great money, but they also did it to help the team in terms of structuring the money and that type of a thing. And I think you'd like to feel better about something else on their team offensively that is differentiating. And I include Andy Reed in that too,

one of the greatest coaches of all time. But he does he need to change gears too. We see so many, I gotta give him an example. Stafford the last couple of years, they have, you've gotten back to a little bit under center, some run game, just some things that can give the defense, give staff a little bit of a break and not just have them run in the red line. And I feel like my homes just doesn't have that. What's helping my homes? Right? It's like they're, they're putting more

weight on him. He's carrying more. Now they're going to have a really young defense this year too, which could take some time. So, and he's coming off the injury. I don't know if I'm expecting

“a big sprint out of the gates where we suddenly feel like my homes is back, are you?”

I don't know what to make of the receivers. The kind of walker thing gets me excited. And they've invested so much in the sole line and we still have loved the interior play. But I look at my homes and I just see tackles getting worked. And then he's trying to make the most of it. And you can say, "Oh, post-high recoil." They haven't had that deep shot threat. They've tried with different personnel decisions. And I don't think anybody's necessarily really established

themselves. But, you know, I was looking at his, his birthday again. Again, 31 of September. I'm like, so do you, like, I am not of the opinion that the beginning of my homes statistically is a

flu, and that we're just never going to get back there. Again, even if three straight years with

some of these numbers feel like, "Well, wait a minute, that's not really that superman shit that we're used to." And then being completely destroyed by Philadelphia is like the last big stage moment that we have, which is something that's not supposed to happen. You know, it's like, hey, you can lose the playoff game. But we don't expect that to happen. And like even the Tampa Bay Super Bowl loss, again, it was the outside guys. Like, my home's running for his life going,

a car, an entire offensive game plan is destroyed here. And I don't, I don't like leave that game against Tampa going. Oh, this guy isn't all that. And by the way, look at the teams that are favored now, what they can do. The Rams, the Seahawks. If you're going to, if you're the chief, you're going to get back there. Let's say they had a great year and got to the Super Bowl. Are they going to deal with those guys, those teams defensive fronts really well? Or as

the home's going to be on his back six times. I think it's the latter. Yeah, that would be the

it did last year. And we saw, like, I, when I'd watch him last year, I couldn't believe he wasn't

getting hurt earlier in this season. Yeah. So, you know, agreed. It doesn't get better as you get older. You know, I mean, sorry, it's going to leave him at some point. That part is going to decline. Okay. So with Alan, I guess I'm being positive in how I looked at this, but then I'm focusing on the negative because he had two tier two votes, which again, I know you have coaches. It feels like the coaches can be really tough on the guys. Is that generally the history of this exercise?

Somewhat, I mean, the coaches, yes, in general, the personnel guys are going to be more traits based. It's the interesting, like the coaches were way higher in Aaron Rodgers and personnel guys are, they like all the little things that they don't have to do, even though they can't get out of

“his own way with the flags. So they love a guy who, I think that's why DAC moved up to, frankly,”

I think DAC is kind of what quarterbacks used to be, not that he's a great quarterback, but he's very

good. Burn in the show. The guy knows what's going on, everything out there. I think that kind of appeal to coaches, whereas, you know, a personnel guy is going to be like on Rodgers, he's going to be like, "I can't move, I'm scared to death, that we don't have a better guy." I'm not going to make it through the season. And by the way, he's going to go, you know, on McAfee and say some things, my owners are going to be looking at me sideways. You know, I just think that I think

there's a divide in how they see some of these guys. Who do you think teams would rather have the next five years, Mahomes Rally? That's such a great question. I think it's close. I mean, they probably would still go Mahomes, but I don't know what I would do for the next five years, what would you do? I wouldn't even entertain the question 12 months ago, and I think I'd still take Mahomes because I feel like his command of everything. I just don't think that that's going

to, like, not happen again. So I guess I would still take Mahomes, but I can't believe I'd be even like having to think about it. Because the other thing about Josh Allen is, you know, he is, you know, he really does run a different way, you know, and I think that that will slow down for him to at a certain time. I don't, is it in the next five years? It could be. I mean, we saw a Cam Newton hit a wall, you know, and he uses the press that this is any quarterback you'll

ever see. You know, amazing. When you're on the field of Cam Newton, you're like, that is a different

guy, and he got to a point where it just wasn't there. His arm was banged up, and he couldn't do it quickly. You know, he's Josh Allen going to be great at 3940. We'll see. Okay. So the Allen part that I do get defensive for Allen on is the playoff stuff. And there's a quote that you have in there. I think it's from a coach where it's like, hey, you know, he'll win you one and he'll lose you one. That fumble in that territory against Denver, like he's

“got to stop doing that. And I read that and go, stop doing that as if that's what he's doing”

all the time. And this is the part of the Allen conversation that tries to be fucking crazy is you go, okay. So let's go through all the playoff losses. He's got four to Kansas City where they probably like three of them are at Kansas City to an expected win. The average points allowed in those four games is 35 points per game. You want to dig them for the Cincinnati playoff loss. Go ahead. But over his career, his completion percentage goes up, his touchdown

percentage goes up, his QB rating goes up, his interception percentage goes down by half. He is a better player in the playoffs. And when he has these bad moments in that Denver game, it's sold to us as the continuation of the Allen playoff failure. When, in fact, there's still far more good if not great than there is bad and yet people can't stop doing this. I'm totally, well, he did happen. They're sloppy. Sure last game. It did happen, but I'm with you.

When people ask me like why are they asking about Tier 1 and why isn't Lamar Jackson

“getting a bit into the doubt in the Tier 1, I think the durability of Tier 1 hinges largely on”

how you perform in the playoffs and then you're passing. Not just you're running, but you're passing. I think Josh down on the playoffs, I just dialed this up now since I put it, I think since 2019, 29 touchdowns, six interceptions in the playoffs. Like Lamar's eight touchdowns, six interceptions. There's a little bit of a difference, right? When they look at package, they'll get package the same way sometimes. Like I've seen the TV shows

go like, how come we get on Lamar, but we don't get on either like, are you serious? Like we usually do this. And yeah, absolutely. And even when I have, when I have the play, I'll just do it since I think 19 will cover us, but if I do it here since 2018, just be safe. Stafford, my homes, and Josh Allen are all way above average, and their EPA

to me, that's why Allen should not have a reputation as being a playoff choke artist. I do think though that he could be better in certain situations at protection in the football and just regulating. It was hard thing to do when you're, you know, when you're that dynamic, because you want to kind of go for it too, but I do think he, I do think that's an area he could probably help himself a little bit, and then obviously

them as a coaching staff who lose a 13 second game. So, you know, a lot of things are different with some things helping him as well. Stafford at 38, I love seeing him in tier one, make sense, and considering we're like, hey, how long, like how many seasons have we gone in going, like, I don't know if his back is going to hold up. This was another one, then he wins MVP. And I think

“the best thing in the explanation of it and certainly watching is that McVay knows he can kind of”

do whatever he wants with them. Like, they can change things, they can gain plan, they can change

personnel, and there's never any like, hey, we can't, we can't trust our guy to do this. Like,

Stafford seems to pick it up immediately. He's frustrating for the defense, because he can beat your pressure. You know, when the pressure's in his face, he may, he may make it the great play, the great, uh, season he's very hard to fool, and I think McVay's done a great job the last couple of years. Some of this is with the 13 personnel, but just regulating how much you're going to just peer drop back past. Thank you, fell in love with that with Stafford, his ability to really

just sling it and be from the gun and throw it around was refreshing for him after a golf, who's good, but not on the same level. And I think he's just kind of regulated nicely now to where, uh, making it somebody's here first, Stafford, but he can still do the highest degree of difficulty when you meet it. Barrel was the only other tier one quarterback. So four for this. He had 46

of 50 votes in the first tier. Is there, though, a bit of a reputation thing here keeping him higher

than you expected? I mean, a little bit. I'm surprised he wouldn't lose some more on the durability component. You know, you missed five games last year. I do think the 2020, four season is the greatest argument. Four tier one, not only for him, but also the Marjax and two guys had really bad defensive. I mean, really bad and had their teams in it. In the Marjax case, won a lot of the games. And in Burrel's case, he did everything he could,

“you know, I mean, he has, I think I put this in there. He has a ten and five record in games where”

he scored 30 or more points. And it's like, you think, well, ten and five is good. No, it's the worst record of any of the regular quarterbacks. Because he scored 30 or more, you're going to win 90 percent, not Barrel. So people love his ability as a passer. And I think this, where he's at shows you to your one definition carries his team every week. Yep. That's the Marjax, that's Burrel. Expertly handles peer pass situations. That's Burrel more than Lamar in the ice of

people in the league. And doesn't really have a hold in his game. That's more Burrel than Lamar according to people in the league, even though Lamar is a multiple time MVP who's going to have a great hall of fame case, my opinion. That's where Lamar enters the conversation. The top

of tier two. So that's 22 first place votes 28 tier two votes for him. And it felt like a lot

of it had to do with the decline in rushing. And that it's not just, I mean, if you look at the yards, they fall off a cliff from last year this year. It's also four less games. But it almost felt like this boat was a result of projecting based on the lack of run game from him in 25.

“Yeah, like if he had had a Joe Burrel passing season in the absence of the rushing, I think he”

would still be in tier one. And really let's be honest, we need to four people to vote him into tier one. And he would have made it. But he's still his totals in tier one or way down the last year. I think he had 46 votes in tier one last year. So there's a big shift on that. And I think, yeah, he doesn't look like he wanted the run. You know? And I don't think he did. I think he was banged up. I think we're also seeing more times with him where when he does run, he doesn't just

automatically make a dynamic play. Somebody tackles him in the open field. There was a game last year against Cleveland early in the game. He's down, you know, right away. And you can see the frustration sometimes, right? I mean, he's almost like once to throw the ball down, that shouldn't be happening to Superman. So, you know, where's this headed? I don't know. Obviously, people aren't, not enough people are betting on it being tier one. Herbert six, explained the divide among personnel

people in coaches, because this seemed to be significant. Yeah, this is a case where in typically the personnel people are going to like traits more. And so you love the traits with Justin Herbert.

you know, coaches are like, you know, it should translate more into the way that he plays.

And so the way I phrase it with him is that what point do reasons become excuses for a player? Right? There's reasons why he hasn't won more in the playoffs or they haven't had the team success or even sometimes that he hasn't had a great season statistically. And there are good reasons a lot of cases you lose your, your, your offense is built on your line with two tackles and you lose them. You'll, or the weaponry that he's had, or you're with an organization that's had

both rivers and Justin Herbert for 20 plus years and hasn't won the division since 2009.

“There's all these other things that you could kind of point to if you want to. But at a certain point,”

people are want to see the result and it looks like to me the coaches want to see him before the personnel guys in this case. Historically, who do you think has had the better read on quarterbacks in 13 years of doing this? Like who's better at it? Coaches are personnel people. That's a great question. I would probably, if I the trust one, I would probably lean towards the personnel and then make my own adjustments based on what their bias is going to be.

Because I feel like coaches can give you more detail and more specific reasons but they're also going to probably fall into a little bit of how easy would this guy to be to coach or is he a great fit with what what I want to do, right? And so, you know, when the job of coaching, I think the best coaches do this is, hey, this is what I've got. How do I make the most of it, right? But when the coaches talk about what they really would like to have,

it's not always what they have as much that makes sense to you. They can be a little bit more

finicky especially as you get down to like the, now I'm talking, I'm talking, I guess largely about offensive coaches. To offensive coaches are, their votes can say as much about them as they do

“the quarterbacks more show than others. I think defensive coaches are different from offensive”

coaches. You know, in terms of who's harder to fan is a little bit of a different question. Yeah, no, that doesn't make sense. But I seemed when I read the quotes every year, I feel like I'm constantly disagreeing with the coaches and I'm usually agreeing with the person LPA and I think Herbert's the epitome of that. Now look, Herbert's resume is it's tough to defend at this point. Like, I get it. Somebody goes like, hey, if he's the guy, we don't have any playoff wins here. Like,

what are we doing? I thought they were a mess last year and they can't keep their offensive line healthy. I think that impacted his play and I would be happy. Like, if he were free agent tomorrow, there's probably 27 teams that would be like, okay, like, can we figure this out and make it happen? Absolutely. You all know about my love for raising Keynes and getting to know Todd Graves the OG of Bat Rouge, or somebody was like, hey, that guy just paid for your dinner. Like,

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“Let's see here, deck seventh. I think seven is a good number for deck. I think that's probably”

on the higher side for him. I think the tier three vote is laughable. Even if you don't like deck, you can't have him in tier three. Even if there's some of the criticisms that I'll go, okay, like I, I understand because statistically the profile tells you this guy's like a tier one. I don't think any of us necessarily feel that way, but now the tier three, I was like, come on, man, that felt like a defensive coach. I thought, I thought it was an offensive coach.

Was it? I think so, but yeah, yeah, I think I recorded it in there, I believe. Yeah, and hey, talk 50 people you're going to get, sure, you know, you're going to get some outlier opinions, there's some people that, but I'll tell you this, there's somebody, there's another person in this that voted on a two who a few years ago, a thought he was a three, a few years ago, and he actually texted me when he was doing his ballad, he's like, the guy was most impressed

with, I've changed the most on his back. I just think he's really, he's really good, you know, and he did move up. He got, almost as many tier one votes this year, it was like 12 or 13, as he got in his full career before, and I didn't really understand that. It did he do something totally new last year, but I do think in an era when the quarterbacks are younger and

show and run it and look like a pro quarterback and I think Dak does that. Also, does it help him that he didn't lead his team to the playoffs last year and lose in the first round with a bad

“team? Does it, does it help them? There's distance between him and his last playoff loss?”

Because that's always, I think like he chose definitely off, but he hasn't been a long time.

It absolutely has everything. I mean, it's like the Jalen Hertz conversation. Like once we get to him, you're going to go, oh, this is a bit of the correction on like, I guess we have to, because this guy just won the Super Bowl. We have to put him up here when I don't know that anybody really thought that Jalen Hertz was a top 10 quarterback. Absolutely. If we if we traded those two quarterbacks right now, the betting lines would change a lot in people would think the Eagles are

going to be better and the Cowboys are not as good, right? Yeah, I'd rather have Dak with the Eagles than Hertz, even with the resume that Hertz has had. I don't even think that that should be a discussion. To finish out the rest of the top 10 golf ties with Dak, so that's eight and then Jordan love at 10. The Jordan love stuff was really interesting because it's kind of like, it felt like people were going back and watching the tape, you're like, God damn, it's this guy

good. But I, I didn't think I would like him this much. It just felt like a lot of the stuff that keeps him in this conversation where I mean, you want to get on Hertz resume, you could do the same thing with love. Except love had the big playoff winning against Dallas, which helped. Well, sure, yeah, I mean, I guess it's not zeroes, but I, you know, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, so it didn't feel almost like some of the support was kind of like, Reggie and like, hey, this guy's been productive

for a few years. I watch him and wonder how sometimes the guy forces the ball, pushes it down

“the field and I think that shouldn't be working. Some of the stuff he does and it worked. It's”

worked enough that like, I got to tip my cap to him. I think that was one of the comments in there. So he's somebody who, like, I feel like if they, you know, strad us a little bit this way too, but way more exaggerated is like his offensive line was probably the thing that was talking about love, you know, could if that were to be improved this year, I think would help him a lot. I think that was probably one of their weaknesses. And so I don't know if it's going to improve this

year, but if it does, I think he could, he could move up again. Do you think because the access of more information to voters have gotten smart on this? Like, Burrow is still up there because defensive EPA, the last three seasons was 29. So you go, like, hey, you guys can think that Burrow health is you take more of a ding, but like, that's three years of one of the worst defenses in the league. I think there's some DAC stuff around him where this starts to feel like why I would

always argue about Stafford with Detroit is you're going, there's harder, it's hard to find

a lease or a less supported quarterback, run game defense special teams in the combination of what Stafford had around him in Detroit. And I think there's some arguments again for Burrow and certainly somebody like DAC when you go, hey, what is, what's he supposed to do? He's supposed to run an elite offense. They've been in the lead offense now for multiple years there with him. So yeah, I actually think, I'm going to flip that around. I think that the coaches and the people

in the league have been cognizant in the middle of the years. I think the fans are getting smarter about it and I think it's helping us because when I started doing quarterback tears, let's say 2014,

“it was around the time of is Joe Flacco elite, remember that? Yeah, you know when the league”

would be saying, with all due respect to Joe Flacco, good quarterback to play the lead in the Super Bowl run. I mean, he's a good, it's a good quarterback, but no one in the league would be saying he was a lead for the most part. But that was actually a debate in media at the time. So I do think that the public has gotten more of the public has gotten smarter about what really matters and seen the nuance and those things. Okay, a year later, we did the Caleb Williams conversation

and as a Caleb Williams guy, it shook me. It was shook for days. It was really, really negative and now he's sitting here firmly in tier two as the 11th best quarterback. What was the conversation like this year, especially with the people that really felt like they were beating up on him kind of the person as much as the player? Well, last year, I think there was a great quote last year. This guy's eater going to be a two or a four real quick and the implication was it depended

how he responded to the two really difficult first year and some tough coaching. He was going to get

with Ben Johnson and I would say he responded pretty well. It was a really good reassuring season. People did like Caleb Williams coming out. Nobody thought he wasn't the number one taking the draft. The first season was a negative one all the way around and there were a lot of, I believe a lot of coaches on that staff or people that were there fed into there was a super negative article that came out not with the athletic. Nothing to do with me, but came out for last season,

basically questioning everything about his approach. So maybe that was a little heavy handed

he held the ball even longer per play and didn't take sacks nearly as much. That's a hard thing

to do but he did it. It wasn't like he was throwing the ball away all the time as complete

“percentage didn't fall off the charts. I think people do feel now like he saved it and we'll see”

if the consistency can be there to go into cheer 1, the talent is definitely there to do it. When you are that much of a magician running around though, you're going to have less consistency in your game for better a lot of the time and sometimes for worse. So 36 tier 2 votes 14 tier 3. I got to just follow up a little bit more on it. Like of the people that were so negative on him going into this last year was there anyone that was like, hey, I like the talent but I was

wrong about him or this surprised me because I think the last image is we have an even with the playoff loss to the Rams but specifically like that package game you realize like, hey, his ability right now can carry. I'm not saying he's those tier 1 guys yet. Yeah. But yeah, there was a lot on him to solve a lot of their problems I thought in the playoff. Let me look at that because in what's up my head, you know, we talked to that many people with the panel changes some, I off

top my head, I would have to look and see who said what last year and come back to it. That's probably a good thing for me to do. That's a great thing for me to do. I'll look at that. I like

that because there's no doubt that first year left, you know, read a lot of people the wrong way

and brace and amplify some questions about them. So, you know, that's that's a great exercise. I just don't have enough top my head. Yeah, and look, there's still, when you look at some of the advanced stuff with him, you're right because the length of time he's holding one out of the football, which is really about his scrambling. It's not, you know, that number's been packaged is probably one of the most misleading numbers you can see in a television broadcast.

It's like, well, he's had plenty of time to throw. It's like, well, some of those people that doesn't mean anything. He ran around for 12 seconds. That raised it by 12. You know, it might mean his production is terrible. I think with Caleb in his first year, it was very predictable of young quarterbacks. It's like as soon as the first reason there, as soon as I'm feeling any kind of pressure, like, hey, in college, I could just run away from everybody the entire

time, like, this is when I'm comfortable doing young, dual threat quarterbacks, love to do that,

stuff. And you almost have to coach them out of it. But there's always like a bad throw percentage

thing with him. That's, that's, that's high. It's higher for him than the elites. Not to say that there isn't somebody, but like, you know, Allen at his best is like a 13% bad throw percentage. Mahomes is like a 13, even though I think he ticked up to like 18 this past year and Caleb's been north of 20. I think both seasons where if you track that stuff, you're like, okay, well, that number, that number has to get into the teens here somewhere. And I would think he would based on his talent

in what we saw the jump from year one to year two. Yes, to me, for him to get into tier one, it's some more automatic stuff in the flow of the offense, right? Balancing that out and just getting better within that. I think he did get better this last year. It probably helped him to have coach with a lot of juice and credibility to get his attention. I think that, you know, you could make the case that that wasn't, there weren't guys who could do that with him last year and then

Johnson did it and helped both of them. And if he can get, if he can do more consistency within the framework of an offense that's very well-schemed, I think that could help him. And still have this

“particular play when you need it in the playoffs, the play against the Rams that we'll never forget,”

you know, that's still going to be there. But the coaches oftentimes don't like a bunch of in predictability. The offensive coaches don't love a bunch of unpredictability when they're trying to call a game. And so be a little bit more predictable. Do you think more people would rather have Drake may than Caleb? I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I feel like Caleb Williams' talent, seedling his higher, you know, his highs could be higher and Drake may, maybe his,

don't want to say safer, but just a little more stable. Now Drake may sack rate is very high and stayed high the two years. So, you know, we'll see what the future holds for him, but I don't think people would be overwhelmingly Drake may. I think you'd get, I would, I could even see Caleb Williams having more interest. Yeah. I mean, to run through it again for anybody that's, that's playing along here. My home's Allen won to Stafford III, Burrell IV, then Tier II were at Lamar,

“Herbert Dach, and then I Drake may was tied with golf at eighth and that's what let us in a”

Jordan love. I'm going to talk about Caleb here at 11th the entire time. So, I kind of jumped over Drake a little bit here. I think the, the good thing for Drake is that he is someone that now feels like the personnel should be even better this year. Like this was a way ahead of schedule

roster members, normally we're not looking at that roster saying like, hey, that's one of the five best rosters in the NFL. Nobody would say that about the Patriots, even after they played in the Super Bowl and bringing an AJ Brown and like after this year with May, you'd have to think that like it just has to get better because it's kind of remarkable. He had an MVP caliber season considering the lack of investment on his side of the ball. Yeah, I thought he, I thought eight was

was pretty optimistic on him when you've considered how bad it ended. You know, he's obviously

“I think it was hurt and the Super Bowl and even before that. And so, you know, he, it was a”

went out with a thud really and still got eighth. That was pretty strong for him. All right, um, who do you think is more respected rock per year Baker May feel? Because they're right next to each other, correct? Yeah, they're right next to each other. That's a tough question. I think Baker is respected for different things. I think he's respected for kind of his journey and the way that he plays with with Swagger and Fearlessness

and the way teammates seem to rally around him. He's even been kind of fearless in this thing with the box where he's going public and kind of being salty about it. I think he's respected for that, whereas per day is more respected for his efficiency, just his probably his

consistency. But they're always going to say with him in that system, that in that system thing,

I was always a part of it with him because of Kyle Shanahan. So I don't think, I think it's just a different kind of respect. This is a good answer because that's kind of what I took from it. You could argue that May is at eighth based on the overreaction, just participating in a Super Bowl, maybe the way that we had with Hurts last year. But I was kind of proud of the panel on the Donald vote. Yeah, no tier one votes. You would have thought somebody was going to do it

after what he's done the last couple of years. They went as Super Bowl, but maybe back to the better understanding of the support around him is that Donald said incredible defensive support as you'd expect with this whole thing. Anybody that has a good of a defense, especially to go in that kind of run, like there's going to be games where you're going to have to actually be the guy and Donald has those as well. So it's not like, hey, we're throwing through 120 yards

and never want you to throw it past the line of skirmish. He's had huge games that show off his talent.

I was I was proud of the panel on this one, not that I necessarily even think that he should land here, but that has top 10 written all over it another year is coming off the season. He just hit.

“I totally agree. I think it's you know, I did go back and look when he was he he was in this”

whole twice with when it as a jet and he was in tier three both times and we sort of think of that as this horrible time which he didn't end well and then it got that worse for him. But I think this is a perfect place for him because tier two is carries his team sometimes, not every week, like in tier one. Handles the pure past, you know, we're both teams know we had to pass handles it in doses. It has a whole two in his game. That is him because it's not like anybody right now

off of last season goes, hey, I think Seattle's just saddle up and run their team and offense through him, right? We're not doing that. But in the championship game against the Rams when he had to do it, he did it. He can do it. You just don't want to ask him to do it every week and that's fine. You can win the Super Bowl if you have a good enough team in that context. Perfect for me, mid to lower part of tier two. That leads us to the end of tier two, we're Jainland Hurts. It's

as 17th ranked quarterback in this piece. So night last year and you know, there's the Hurts Hurts is like a really tough bar conversation, right? You're sitting there and you're going like,

“I think he's like average, you know, and then you go, how do you say he's up? But I think Hurts”

he should, again, he's saying that like, Doc can't win you a Super Bowl. Hurts proof of concept to me proves that Doc could also win you a Super Bowl. And look, we've had, it doesn't mean you prefer to have the lesser quarterback. But, you know, the Jainland I think opens up the conversation for some of these other guys that people get real definitive on where I'm like,

that's a really tough, final summary on somebody to see go, this guy can never win a Super Bowl

when Jainland Hurts is played in two of them. I was with him, I think he's in a great spot. I'm all, I'm kind of glad he did, you know, he's right at the bottom of tier two. I'm glad he's not in tier three because it would just don't apply this even more. But he, I feel like he could be in tier three a year from now. You know, you don't feel like it's turning in the right direction. If, if you're, I think he's a great one to play the game with how many teams trade their quarterback

for him. It's, it's fewer than you would think for somebody with his pedigree. And then Eagles fans, how would you feel if they did a top of the market deal with them right now? And they were really

move that people would want to see the make and that probably answers your question about where he's at. Is there anything else that we need to discuss on this? Because whenever I feel like I'm being honest about it, I feel like I'm being negative when that's not what you're supposed to do with somebody with his resume, but like sometimes I just feel like I feel like it's been three years of mostly negative, given his due, gradually, conversations around him, even with the voters. There's no one

who goes, oh, yeah, I mean, this guy does X, Y, and Z so well. You don't hear that about him.

And I always say, sometimes the voters, you know, the votes say as much about the voters,

“but this is something about, I think, the quarterbacks, too, and it's probably why he is where he is.”

I wonder how it's going to look without having to go ball guys on both sides of the field, too. Yeah, no one thinks that J. and Hertz is going to go out there in slice and dice you with a bunch of intermediate throws and, you know, making use of the five eligibles in that way, you know. So as his career goes along, he's not going to get nothing. He's a huge scramble now, but his legs aren't going to get better over time. Just he have enough as a passer to be a

later career successful starter on a team that isn't just absolutely loaded.

Tier 3, bonus at the top. He had one tier one vote. Says more about the voters in my opinion,

sometimes there are, I see that sometimes with like offensive coaches, sometimes they'll be like an octave higher on everybody. And I think it's because they think if they got this guy, they could do great with them. And so you'll have occasionally you do 50 people. You're going to have somebody that has seven quarterbacks in Tier 1 and one of them you weren't

“sure on, you know, and you're going to have someone else who has two in Tier 1 and that's how”

Josh Allen has, you know, a Tier 2 vote. So, grain of salt on it. I don't think I don't even think that guy thinks the bonus is the same as my home. Sorry. Well, no, you know, you could still put

tier ones on guys. It doesn't mean that you think he's he's necessarily my home. I would say

as somebody that doesn't have huge expectations on bonus, I think he had a lot of really great moments last season. And so maybe something to build on. So I feel a little bit better about him. But I think him landing at like 18, how many other people in front of him do you really want to argue that he's better than right now? Yeah. I think it's a very reasonable range for him to be in despite what look if they had been healthy at home with him playing, like who knows. This guy

might be coming off a Super Bowl bump in the Tier rankings. Yeah. That's why love doing the 50 people. It kind of evens out. And the guy for the most part, if I did five guys, what if all those were the five that did it put him in tier two, then you're like, wait, I'm an easier tier two. You got to talk to enough people to get it to settle out. And I feel it's perfect. Okay, two more quick ones. Rogers with a Tier 1 vote and a Tier 4 vote. How often does that happen? Very rarely. It's happened

usually when there's a huge question about injuries. Like Deshawn Watson maybe got a one and a four when he was, you know, coming off not just the entries, but obviously the civil lawsuits and all of that people didn't know really what to expect from him. Rogers is that by far the biggest divide of any one where the coaches are higher than the person, no guys. It's the biggest divide. Did the Tier 1 vote or not pay his television bill the last two? Tier 1 voter is a prominent

“person who's highly regarded. And I think just, I think it's a respect vote.”

I want to do sometimes if he's like, I should look, is that guy playing in this here? And he's like, I don't want to, I don't know, I'm going to jinx it. He's going to light us up that one week. Yeah. But there's no way. It's in me that's just you talk specifically. You're going to get somebody who I got to give him the one he's here in Rogers, respect the hell out of him. CJ's fall seems significant. 37 tier three votes. He had 13 tier three votes combined the previous two years.

The league on CJ's stroud going into this year. So he debuted because I don't have rookies in. So after his rookie season, he debuted in tears at number eight. And then it wasn't as good the next year. But he's still only slipped to nine. And then I think fell the 20 now. So two years in a row now of him struggling behind admittedly shaky offensive line, not seeming to be able to to handle that well and seeming to be on the verge of developing some bad habits, maybe from

from the pressure that he's found leaves him in a situation where I think he could climb back

has too much on his plate otherwise. And in this new offense, not new, but second year,

“that traditionally asks more of the quarterback, compared to the one they had to afford, which was”

sort of the, you know, the shane hand offense, which can be easier for the quarterback. Trees out. Last thing, tier four feels boring and void of hope. Yeah. Yeah. So let me just let me pull it up here to look at it. Yeah. When I went through tier three looking for anyone who'd go to tier one next year and didn't really see anybody, I do think that Tyler shook at the end of that is the one to circle the end of tier three, because the people that

played him, there's not that many people that played him. So if you didn't play him and sandals calling you on this, you give him off tier four, none of that info. But he got four, four votes and tier two already. 21 and tier three, for playing half of a season, people like him. So just circle him as somebody that like the wind surprised me if he was a top guy from the draft class

“next year. Tier four, you're right. Willis, tough situation. Gino Smith will probably be better than”

he was last year, but still the shane watts and seen that movie, Panics, not looking good. Today we're set in the line and then JJ McCarthy and Shoulder combined for 22 tier five, so it's just not even a tier five. If you go to the athletic, there's no one in tier five. So some of the guys that over the years helped me come up with the tears were like, why do you even have it tier five? You shouldn't have it. And I said the reason I have it is because I want to

know, I want to differentiate from tier four, which can be not enough info, or I think you're a solid third. Tier five is meaning a vote in tier five means I don't think you can play. And so JJ McCarthy got 10 of those already and Shoulder Sanders got 12. That's very unusual for young players. Usually be like, hey, the jury's out. We've given them a four like the jury came back

in like record time, which is never good for the defendant. Well done. Thanks so much for the time.

“If you want to read along, there's even more in there. You can even vote, which is a new option,”

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and I was looking at some water access and then I started looking down at the kipsy. The kipsy is right on what is the same longitude as as hard for it? Well, yeah, that's an interesting fact. I thought you were going to go further east because you started looking at some of those longitudes from Europe compared to the states and it blows your mind. Blows your mind. But now also, yeah, makes you think of like, you think there's somebody who's a flatter author who's listening

right now. We should have like the longitude. Oh shit. How's everybody's time we're going?

No, it's great. I went to, we had a nice week, family trip near a dancer or an island, life, two kids, one girl, data ton of sand. She seems to be okay. She looks there again. I found their rear. They have good sand. Yep, it's good sand. It is good sand. So that was fun. I've got a lot of shit about my take on the the guy who's in law was dating his sister. Right. So that's been fun. People have a huge hit. I had void though. We didn't get them enough in the meantime. That's all.

It's always funny when we take those things and then you forget what did I say? Because we

tape it so long ago. I'm like, I don't really remember. So I went back and listened and I'm like, was I that big of a tool? Yeah, you took a real stance. That's all. I did come off as more mad than I wanted to be. So that that kind of messed me up for a few days because I'm like, man, I might just that big of a loser. You start reading stuff. But so other than that, it's been good. You got to stand for something. I go fall for everything. Right? No, what they say. So I I grade up

back then. I don't know. But it's one of the important ones because it's stuck in my head. I've been doing a little Western kick. I'm doing the recille book club. I read gunfighters, which we get to drop yet. So you're going, it's going to fire you up. And then now I'm letting you read it. I read it and now

“how great is it? It's awesome. It's so good. It's like the perfect book. You know what I think it's”

it's a great book for people that don't read. It nailed me. Damn. But it's funny enough that I am

now audio booking loans have dove because you were loving it. And it's great. I got it through the library. Coach Yoast from remember the Titans is narrating it. So you're good. Like 30% through that audio book. Yeah. I knew you're going to have something to say about it. But that's all right. That's all right. I respect the Kyle. That's awesome. Yeah. And there's like a real actor doing it. It's not just like the guy who reads all the audio books. There's like four guys who

you can recognize if you listen to enough of it. But this is Coach Yoast, which is pretty good. And I'm back in deadwood. I just kind of slug back into like a western. Every once in a while like the West will take over my life for a little bit. So we're right in the throws of it. Yeah. I had mentioned the Kyle that I saw Spider-Man, the new Spider-Man. He also saw it. He looked on his face. He was very disappointed. I was surprised. I enjoyed it. I liked it a lot.

I wasn't disappointed. I was just saying at the last time I went to the theaters before that was Odyssey. And I left there like that was a movie. So that's all. It was funfills. Yeah. Yeah. I would imagine as a tough transition. Yeah. Like watching three's company after episode of a wire. So what a pull. That was great. Yeah. I was one of the

“Odyssey when I was in France. And I was like, wait a minute. Is this going to be a problem?”

That's used to my time or is this going to be a French? I don't know. I mean, that was their like 16, 17 days. So I mean, you can't be. You can't be dinners and exploring every single night. So that was that too. Yeah. Well, you know, most of the other night. But yeah, I was like, I didn't. So I haven't seen it yet. Obviously I'll figure it out. I would imagine 70 millimeter somewhere here in LA. Back when it was done Kirk. Because I remember I went with Bushman to interstellar. It

was like a date to go to Columbus Circle. I think. And we were just like, hey, and it's only running for this many days. And then we have to go. And then I think I ended up going to dunk Kirk by myself to fully get the 70 millimeter experience. Well, Odyssey kind of spurred that conversation. They put like a map of all the 70 millimeter i max. And it's like you can count them on your fingers and toes and like eight of them are in Los Angeles. Yeah. I think our closest one is Dan Barry funny enough.

But I didn't go to that Barry to watch. There is one, Dan Barry. I thought that was New York City.

“I don't know. That's what people are around here saying. But, you know, that could just be an”

urban myth. Dan Barry like, you know, big. I'm going to be honest. Can we look that up? Because that doesn't make any sense. There is a pretty big AMC at Dan Barry. Let me see. There used to be one in a domestic aquarium. Because I saw Dunkirk with Adnan there named it. What's up? And that was no lie. I mean Adnan being there was great. But that was the greatest movie experience in my life. I think does he talk during the movie not 70 millimeter? He did not. Not 70 millimeter in Dan Barry. I just had a hard time believing

that the people in the 70 millimeter world were like, all right, New York, LA. We'll get one in Chicago. And look, if you guys heard about the Lids selection, it's Dan Barry walk. All right. Standard IMAX. So we don't have an IMAX right here. That's all. All right. Let's, um,

let's get to some emails. There are a million here for sorority. So I'll just read one of them.

I go ahead. Yeah. I just get dressed. It did kind of fuck me up a bit, man. I could tell. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody wants that attention until you start getting some of that heat. Go ahead. I'm just read. I have something to say. But you obviously know what that said. All right. So Rudy had a legendary bad wife advice. Love the show. But after listening to how worked up sorority got on the life advice about the brother-in-law dating the guy, sister,

I had to write and tell you how badly he handled giving advice to the man, especially sorority.

way related to. Welcome to the world for all of us who have sisters. They often end up dating someone.

“And if that's someone isn't related to them, you generally just have to be cool with it.”

It's very strange as sorority felt so against this. It's someone with multiple brother-in-law's. All I could hope for is a brother-in-law is that they're nice fun to talk to and know sports. The brother-in-law and the life advice segment should be thrilled that the prospect of having a friend is a potential brother-in-law or even just a sister dating somebody actually enjoys hanging out with the family functions. I don't know that. I mean, again, you've read this.

Don't miss the thing I've ever heard. Look, what are you going to critique me? And I'm not saying that I'm

100% right. Yeah, I have two sisters. I'm not, this isn't like, "Hey, they can never date someone."

It's your dating. This would be like if they dated my wife's brother. That's not the same as just dating a dude. Because I had to be like, "Well, if they just date people, it's not your decision to choose." I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm just saying I find it a little bit weird. Your stance wasn't that weird. Man, it's wrong to date her. Just playing around. Our guys should be encouraging this relationship for his own sake. This is not weird

in any way. Again, they're not actually blood related in any way. Well, from the world where your sister sometimes has a boyfriend. Again, maybe I'm just, and this could be totally my fault. I came off as arguing. I'm not arguing that it's because they're related. That's not what I'm saying. I know they're not related. It just, it could fuck up family dynamics. It's weird. It's strange.

I find. I don't think that anyone would be like, "I'm wrong." Because they're clearly

where some people were very vocal to me that they would be super pumped about. So I'm happy for you. I would find a little bit strange. I said the thing to you, Ryan, about like, "Oh, what are you going to get married?" Which is a dumb thing for me to say. I shouldn't have said that because that's not even how I feel. You shouldn't have to go into this relationship thinking you're going to get married. I get that. I've got my way of life. If there's no endgame and there's

this bad breakup, then like, Christmas is for like the rest of your life could be kind of weird. Like somebody's not coming over or just being laws are kind of awkward about stuff. Like you are putting your, you can happen though, kind of with any dynamic. Not some random guy as the other email or one. Yeah, but the random guy could also, like, I get your point on that, but if the

standard is, I want to protect fully functioning. Christmas is moving forward. Like they could also

be derailed for other reasons that have to work out. Okay, but we're not arguing about other reasons. It's like, yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't, I can't. Well, more of the email or yeah,

“we don't have to go back. Sometimes like a bad faith, I'll give it an email. But I think he's taking”

it to an extreme that Surrey was not actually like he's assuming that a lot. Like Surrey wasn't saying, you're sister can't date anybody. I don't know. I think this isn't sesh US. Yeah. But I mean, I would say you're protective, you're protective mail, and your family tree. I would, I stopped my sister's injury with that. Um, yeah, I think they would agree with that. There was some people that brought up the Italian thing that I was, I actually dismissed the Italian

thing and I was being the hearto Italian loser who was just being mad for no reason, which I will say I was, I did not like how I came off as angry in that. Don't write down that I was mad. I'm not mad. Um, but, but that's not, so that's on me. That's my fault. I was, I got work. I think I got more worked up because I wasn't able to quite articulate my argument that I wanted to. I wasn't mad about the guy's scenario. Listen, dude, you could date whoever you want. I don't really care.

I have the right to judge you and think it's kind of weird, but you, it doesn't mean I'm telling you can't do it. Going back and listening to yourself is usually not a ton of fun. It's something

“you definitely need to do a lot of if you want to be on the air in the beginning. Although if you're”

instincts or terrible as a person, you might listen to yourself be fucking terrible and then go, I'm killing it. If there's a host, I'm thinking of right now that guarantee he has some of the worst takes imaginable and I guarantee if he listen to himself, he's just going nailed it again, nailed it again. Uh, we don't need to read anymore of the email. There was a lot of good ones with any like legitimate arguments. I don't know. No. I don't think there was one that was like, but I knew

I knew I, it was the same thing for me. I'm like, wait a minute. What happened? I did have a few people reach out and be like, hey, I have a, I have this situation and I'm pumped about it because I have like my, my sister dates more like I'm really good friends with. And that's great. I'm happy for you. But I, I feel like that's not that you're the outlier, probably, in that situation. I, I, look, I can at least understand if it's your buddy and you kind of know too much about

him. Yeah, you better the trenches. Man. So, like, is any of this going to change? It's used to not be my business. And now it's my business. And I hate it. Right. So, okay. Let's go back to a non-relations one. La, a lost dog versus missing workout, six three, one, 85 pre-goggle's Kirk Heinrich player comp. Kirk Heinrich can fall. All right.

I have a two-year-old, a five-month-old in my wife is a physician assistant, women's health surgery, surgery day. She has to leave by six, a 30-am sharp, no real wiggle room with that. Very similar to the life of ready host. Thank you. Prisoner of the clock, if you know what I mean? We do. I wake up at 4.30, get my run and then go lift, cardio before the gym. Wow. This guy's after it. So, no criticism whatsoever. This time, there was a husky on the road and I turned into the gym

and the dog had tags. It looked house broken. Just a beautiful dog. I stopped rolled my window down and said, "Go home, girl." Then I kept it moving and did it with your leg. Am I a horrible person for not locating the puffs home and dropping it off or should I just keep believing the dog listening to me and went home after telling it to please advise? Just happen to me a couple weeks ago and I saw someone else pulling off and I just kind of turned my blinker off and what

where I was going. I was going to do it and then I was like, "All right, got this handle." So, my book is okay. I'm going to have a dog. So, our neighbor's dog likes to like once every couple months just kind of wander. They have a electrical fence, but I think, you know, she

chases stuff out and whatever. And the first time we didn't know the first time we saw the dog

around, we'd like text them and like, "Hey, you know, your dog is missing." Like, "Oh, yeah, it's not a big deal." She just kind of does that every couple months. You'll go learn to figure that out. So, maybe that's the situation. Maybe the dog was just, you know, on this escapade, making moves and you'll be fine. If it was easy to stop and pick it up and I wasn't heading up to do something. I feel like, "Okay, yeah, you probably should." But if you have stuff that do the rest of the day,

I don't know. It's not like a mental zone. It's just a bunch of your way out of this if you're wanted. Yeah. And emotionally, it was like, "I said something so I'm good." And if you could live at that, then I think you're fine. Yeah, I'm not super proud of it. I'm sure a two-party situation would have been better to curl that, that fella, but I saw one and I'm like, "All right, this is handled."

“But that again, that's me just bending reality to my will. So, if you want to feel bad about it,”

you're certainly good. And if you want to think about it, you can certainly do that too. I don't think you should feel bad. Maybe some people think it's on you. I mean, there's a pretty good chance of dog is going to find this way home, even without your verbal direction. There's also, like, you've ever seen a dog catcher in action. I'm out of the first time I saw it. I was like, "Easy job." I've ever got like pulled up. I was like, "Hey, girl,

I'm going to open the door. I'm going to hug you up right in." Some milk boat in there and let's go. In the cartoons, I was like, "This seems far more of a hostile transaction with a dog catcher than a reality, but I'm sure there's somebody who is a dog catcher. It's going to be like, "Hey,

it's not always that easy." And I would agree with you. Yeah, just the first time I ever saw it

happen when I was a lot younger I went. Man, that was easy. I've never seen one. Maybe the best. I saw that big and the old HV. I don't know. I saw it. It's gone.

“I had a friend who found a dog and kept it. I think he was pretty ugly. Yeah, with tags. Pretty”

fucked up. That sucks. Yeah. Just kidnap the dog and he told me and I went, "Huh." And I was like, "Do you want me to tell you that's cool?" Because I'm not going to. And then... Was it like a rare dog? Was it what kind of dog was it? I think it was a rare dog. Well, yeah, like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's been great. Like a pure bread. What am I supposed to pay for this? Yeah. So I think he said he's like, "I emailed

whatever." And I didn't hear. I was like, "How active were you in pursuing a return of this dog?" It seems like you really wanted the dog. It reminded him maybe if the dog we'd have in college. And then I went to visit him and I'm like, "Oh, you got a dog?" He's like, "Well," and then he told me the whole story. I just kind of looked at him and that's where I was just like, "I can't."

Like, I never excited to stay and visit with you for a few days. But I get to be honest with you.

That can't let a stamp on this one, man. Sorry. This one seems sort of fucked up. And then he did follow up with me months later, or I guess he was walking it. And then somebody was like, "Hey,

“I think that's my dog." And then he'd had new tags on it and just like, "I had to come clean."”

And he goes, "They kind of didn't care." So I felt better. So I went, "Okay, there you go, full circle." So you could play that off. Like, "Hey, I tried." And then I just, you know, I dog was great and I adopted it. And here you go. And I'm sure they wouldn't ask to make questions. They're like, "Oh, that's so funny." Because I went to the the pound and saw if anybody found one. They said, "No, nobody filed a report. It's interesting." Yeah. You have any evidence that you made a phone call?

No. Yeah. So you made it to E-mail us instead. It's called. Is it still name Brody? No, it's beat. It's beat the dog. Your response is beat now. Yeah. All right. That's their party inequality. Hello, Gents. E-mailing. And currently 27 years old, 5, 11, 155, player comp, Davey on Mitchell, point of attack defender who can make you pay if you leave him open. Also, my childhood room was filled

Hopefully my question is short and sweet. I'm getting married in handful of months in February. And my groom's been her mostly comprised of long time childhood friends. My best man is planning a pretty elaborate batch of party. We're reflying to Florida for a handful of days. For context, we live in the Midwest, so Florida in the winter is going to be pretty nice. It's going to be thick. My fiance, however, likes to keep to herself and doesn't have a huge friend group.

She'd rather stay in the weekends and go out with coworkers or friends. It doesn't like to be on her phone, so she doesn't call her text anyone either. Which is caused those relationships to slowly drift away because of this her maid of honor is a childhood friend. She doesn't get to see very often. We've only seen her once in the three years we've been together. Who lives a few states away. The rest of her bridal party is made up of her sisters or co-workers. She managed become closer

with because of all of that. I don't think she's going to have a bachelor at party. The maid of honor is also in the middle of law school and doesn't really have any relationship or a connection with the rest of the bridal party. Should I feel bad and tell my buddy to do something

“more low-key because of this? Quick answer no. I do feel guilty and hate the idea of going off”

to have a great time with my friends while she never gets to have that experience or self-thoughts.

Do we combine parties? Jesus do. Never. Do I reach out to the maid of honor or is that weird? I've asked her in the past. She's doing a party and she says she has no idea. It's up to her. Which makes me assume no sense. No plans have ever been mentioned with the wedding fairly close. Kyle. I think this is a very specific type of person. If you let it become like an albatross, I might use it in that correctly. If you let it become a thing that hinders what you're

going to do for the rest of your life because she's not somebody who either enjoys or wants to maintain those type of relationships, that's going to be a bummer for you. I don't know if I don't think it's super weird if you're just like, "Hey, he's getting married." I don't think it would be super weird to reach out to her, made of honor best friend, and just ask if there's any plan. You don't have to ask what it is. But if that would make you feel better about going,

“but I don't think you should hinder this in a perfect world. This is a one-shot deal. You do this”

one time, so you should have a fun time. It's a matter of perspective. Her fun time doesn't look like what yours looks like. Maybe it's just a dinner. I don't know. I don't think it's crazy to reach out. Try to get some intel, even if you don't want to do it directly. I don't know how you do it in a roundabout way, but I definitely wouldn't change the plans because I think her version of it could be way toned down that might not even show up on your radar or something that would

be fun. I would just try to get a little intel to see if they're actually going to do anything that counts. There's no right way to do this. I definitely wouldn't change the plans either. Yes, Scott said, this is like an awesome thing with your buddies that guys just don't get to do a ton. General, after this, you know, you can say the golf trip thing happens, but like it then doesn't happen eventually. And, you know, years go by and it's like, hey, we should do that trip and you

just kind of never do. So this is the one time that you do that. I don't think she feels guilty about it.

She lives just lived her life the way that she has got to this point. She's getting married so good for her and you've lived your life at this point where you've got these friends that you want to do this thing with. I don't know. Is there a way to make something special for her though? Like, you know, either the lead up or after, if she's not going to have one, like, is there something that you can do with family? I don't know. I'm just spit ball and I don't have a great answer to it,

but to make her feel special, to make her not feel left out. Because I'm sure it's probably going to be thinking about it. So obviously, you're going to be in her mind. But I think, I don't know. This is, I don't want to say it's like a right-of-passage thing, but like you, you deserve the

“huge trip to Florida. You know, like, yeah, I don't think you should, you should take that away from”

you and your buddies who, you know, it's something that just happens. And I feel like she, you know, if she doesn't want to do one or she feels weird about it, like, I kind of think this is just something that you do. This is a compliment to the emailer, but clearly, like, you're a very compassionate person. Maybe even a selfless lover. And what I would say is like, you are so worried about her feelings that you're willing to sacrifice something that you're looking forward to. You

knew absolutely 100% want to do. All of your friends want to do in a serious point. Like, it just starts to happen. You don't get to do any of this stuff anymore. All right. And if it's a priority, like, you have to make sure you do this stuff. Like, guys should be trying to figure out a way to do more stuff. And the guys suck at planning. And you make a million excuses. Kids get involved.

Half of your friends are going to have kids and be determined to never do anything fun ever again.

When it's just like, I see too many parents where I'm like, these parents decided to continue to still do fun things. And these parents decided to kind of like sign up for a life where they're like, I don't want to call it a jail sentence. But it's it's it's weird. It's kind of like your buttery, like, but the first guy in your group that wants to be old, you know, and that guy tries to grab revelating sacrifice. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man. We're just old. It's like you're fucking 28.

Shut up. Yeah. Like, I'm sorry, you're knee hurt this week. But yeah, the young guy talking about

I do it. Like, you're not, you're not dead yet. Like, relax. Yeah, or even socially, like, I'm just getting

old. And you're like, you know, you're not like, and by the way, don't be in a hurry. It's going to happen. I promise for a more water through it happens. So there are there are parents, whether it was younger

“parents or, you know, older parents now, where I think it all, again, kind of gets in a like,”

this subconscious selfishness that I think that we can have, where it's like, that person actually wants to shut it down. That person doesn't want to go on trips. They don't want to be, and that's fine. I mean, I'm not even criticizing it. But your wife or soon to be wife clearly, it's not a guilt thing. She doesn't like to do stuff. Okay. I mean, she's not even texting anybody anymore.

Then she's not a very social person. And that's totally fine. You love her. You want to

marry her. And maybe because you're even thinking about her is what made you such an ideal partner, because she knows how much you care. So like, that all the important stuff sounds like it's really, really good. But because she, because this is the cool part about this is you can actually have some different personalities between the husband and wife, because she doesn't care about any of this stuff. And it's not a male or female thing. It doesn't mean that you then also have to not

care about any of these things to sort of follow her pattern. And that part makes me think like, is there any chance they are not just caring and not just selfless, and that maybe sometimes you're a bit of a pushover? So dude, late 20s, Florida from the Midwest, everybody wants to do it. You clearly want to do it. You having some sort of guilt trip, because your wife is decided that the same age that none of the shit matters to me, which good for her, it's not even a criticism.

“She's not prioritizing any of that stuff, because she isn't doesn't mean that you need to start”

figuring out a way too. Yeah, if you got to weird content about it, know this, your weekends are probably going to slow down after the wedding. You're probably going to have to do those plenty of boring shit. Plenty of nothing. I had a beer. It's kind of like the inverse. I love you, man situation, right? What's up, Jobin? Like, she has all these friends, right? And they're like, we're worried about him not having friends, so he has to make a friend. Like, it's, but you know what's

funny about that, too? I don't think dudes care, whereas I think girls would care more about a guy not having friends, and then dudes would care about a girl not having friends. Am I right there? You're everyday in a girl who has zero friends? Zero. Not zero, but yes. Not zero, but one day like lost him, you know? It's like, in my, in my experience, if you find somebody who puts this on like

“their Facebook wall, and it's she says, like, I do everything for everyone, and no one does anything”

for me. It's like poison. That's bad. That's not good. If you ever say that out loud, it's bad. That is definitely true. Yeah. I did date this girl who she had trouble keeping friends. Um, and that was a sign for sure. It's a sign. I'll leave it at that. Premium. Surviving bar school from your Sunday, August 9th at 5 p.m. On rumble premium and everywhere else at 8 p.m. Okay. We're going to build life crisis one here. Hey dudes. Uh, 6, 2, 2, 15 basketball

comp, my prime, better shooting Alex Carruso. In my 40s, Vinnie, I've got a good three minute spurt, but then I practically die on the court from poor conditioning. Sky apparently can shoot, but I had a 22.5 in high school. All right. So this guy's going to get a bit of a resonate here.

A 15.4. So maybe I was just always Vinnie. Looks comp. Um, we don't need to start doing this,

but I'll read it. Uh, God came up to me, club in Vegas once in swore. I was calm, cruise, a lady at a fried catfish counter in Baton Rouge thought I was Matthew McConaughey, Lincoln lawyer version. Huge height disparity there, by the way. This is that's crazy. That's not even believable. This is not even. Those are two totally different looking people. McConaughey, pushing six foot, right? I mean, well for six foot. Yeah. Yeah, he's 60. Yeah. Okay.

So on a few occasions, I was told I look like Luke Wilson, royal tenant bombs. Are you just naming cool people? I will say there are some guys that look like famous people just the way they dress, you know, but there's those are just, I mean, I guess Luke Wilson and Tom Cruise, I can kind of, but the kind of hey, one is just a total walker. I was at this dinner in France. It reminds me of this dinner I had in France.

Tell us more. It's awesome. Come back loaded with those. Yeah. And uh, there is now just, he just had this look down. And then the nanny's work like, is he a famous actor?

Just absolutely ridiculous. And then my buddies like, yeah, they thought it was like a famous

“actor or something. I was like, we'll, we'll someone tell that nanny that I'm the famous one.”

That's bullshit. Have you ever seen the shield? I'm just kidding. That was just fucked up. I was sorry. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I was just, I was just going to run through guys in my head, but I couldn't think of this shield, loved it. And I don't know how I would do in a rewatch of it.

I did watch it a second time after I read a difficult man, one of my favorite books ever,

but when Chickal is started doing the promos for Nesson when they won the World Series in 2004, it just didn't feel to get out of it. Something fell off with Chickalis. And he's like, the 2004 Boston Red Sox World Champion. How does that? That's just sounds. I was like, man, are you from like New Hampshire or something? What's going on? All right. I don't know, there could be entirely unfair of Chickalis' listening. I thought about it for 22 years. Obviously,

so I'm sorry. Maybe, maybe let a little 21 plus. I thought I had something else. Oh, there was a girl speaking of a girl with no friends that she was like, oh, everybody says I look like when's the funny. And then it was like, everyone thinks I look

like the girl from the cardigans. I was like, you're just naming hot blonde girls.

Those two look completely different. Cardigans still hold up, by the way. All right. So turn 50 this year pure Gen X have solid jeans that you get me to my mid 90s. I'm right. This guy's really mapping out the next. Yeah, but possibly ruin those with binge drinking and ecstasy and college years

“and beyond. I look like I'm 40 or slightly less personal life is fucking awesome hot wife great”

marriage to smart beautiful young girls. I'm all good with 50. But holy shit, since the calendar turned to 2026, I think I'm having a midlife career crisis. I spent the last 19 years in corporate banking, make great money. You can't retire yet. Extremely autonomous. It can manage my schedule to be it all my kid's stuff. I've had fun and enjoyed the work until now. I've been a top performer in my roles for a long time, but I can well, I could seem to think is what a crock

is shit. This all is like I've literally turned into Troy, Dyer, Ethan Hawke from reality bites. There's no point to any of this. Wow, you are thinking about stuff. I mean, I don't think he's about to open a bakery or something. Yeah, it's going to be equal beans coffee shop. All right, I'm not excited. Pierre, that's the sentence. I'm not excited. Not doing anything about a fifth grade or good. All that shit couldn't be more cynical right now. Maybe the world is delusioned.

We went through a bunch of re-orcs and I got moved from a teen that I loved and my boss is like, oh, oh, I respected. I moved to a well respected team and make more money now, but the team dynamic is definitely worse. So maybe I'm a bit off from the change, which normally wouldn't bother me. That could be part of it. I've thought about other ways to make money careers. They moved to and for every single one, I'm just like, that would suck too. Or I would have to

completely start over and not get paid shit. It's hard to look past all the perks of my existing situation paid benefits, autonomy, et cetera. It feels like I'm trapped. Any other situation be worse seemingly. If you held a gun to my head and said, well, what the fuck do you want to do idiot? I'd say coach basketball. I've been coaching my kids directly games for the past five

years and all caps love it. Basketballs, my first love can't get enough of it grew up under

really tremendous coaches. I didn't play in college too bad ankle injuries before my senior year, but took every basketball elective don't laugh. I'm not laughing. I'm taking you entirely seriously. There was any elective. There was including advanced theory of teaching basketball under a hall of favor with multiple maddies. I took coaching baseball. It comes pretty natural. It's fun. I can make solid contribution to the kids. My son plays in travel work and I almost want to

apply for a job there, but this is where myself and you guys are like, we're good luck with that and good luck getting paid and good luck being free to do whatever you want. Do most people love their jobs. I hear people work at work. It all jazzed up and excited. I just want to be like, get a fucking life, dude. How can I shut all this down and refocus to just zombie my way through the last phase of my career? How can I ignore this shit? Is that unhealthy? Should I meditate every

morning? Breathe in. You love your job. Breathe out. You love your job. Well, you can't do that because you know you don't love your job. You all have cool jobs. You probably can't relate much love for your

“thoughts. Well, I can relate to the thought process because that's what I told myself prior to”

venturing out to pursue the careers that I wanted to pursue was that I just know I knew there was no way. I'm like there's absolutely no way. You will be a healthy, happy person. If I knew I would be fucking miserable if I took a normal corporate job. Although once I started learning

That'd be cool. Yeah. I was like, hey, I'd like to run your hedge fund, sir. This is your lifeguard training in seven years of French sold. I don't know if you guys like

“are you guys too young to start to go? Is this it? Because I think the thing that I've learned”

is whatever your thing is for the most of us and even me despite, you know, people looking at being like, oh my god, what a great job, whatever. This is kind of it. This is kind of it. And I think in a lot of times, and I know I do, maybe not, everybody, but I think our email it is like we make up all of these scenarios of like pure raging happiness that are probably a little inaccurate and fanciful. Yeah, let me go. Yeah. So, it's like I'm giving my two weeks. No, no, no.

I think I, I've always looked at this job, like I don't know that I'm going to be doing this when I'm 50.

And I don't know what is after this. Like, very shipment. Yeah, and I thought I think about that a lot. You know, I obviously thought about that and the move that we made and just different things, you know, I've got two young daughters and I've got what at least 20 plus years of working life probably left in me more than that likely. I don't know. I think about it all the time. I like where I'm at now. It's cool. I am happy. I think, although I don't love the way the industry has gone in

some ways. But Brian, I've talked about. I mean, I don't know. It's like, hey, list this. Everyone's kind of doing the same thing. And it's like not as I guess fulfilling is maybe it was when I first started or when the industry was a little bit different. Kevin Durant said the sixers are just as good as the warriors. And it's like, okay, here we go. We got two days of shows and he just goes, that what we used to do,

“because I don't remember that that's what we did.”

Yes, I think it kind of was but I just if for some reason I felt more fun back then it wasn't so like everything is so like to be fair

It's almost a time for Ex girlfriend quarterback comps and that's who probably a lot of fire right on the I mean I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I know I stopped doing it like that from the Wall Street turnals be like 2019 and we're still doing this really Yeah, man, I don't know. Yeah, it was funny. I don't know people seem to like it. Yeah

So so T. S. is the guy's question like Yeah, of course, I've definitely thought about it It it is this it has to be a strange feeling. I don't think I'm not work where he is right now, but he's I mean He's 50 he doesn't have that much time left. That's I guess would be my point is doing you great genes Yeah, well, he's I'm saying he's got he is them much time working left like he can how soon could you retire?

Or the things you want to do? Do you want to want to vote like do you want to have a You know a beach house somewhere like is there something that you can like fixate on as a goal in the next five to ten years that you can like channel all of this like on Fifth field energy into because like your job is your job like you're gonna have you

I'm like most of my friends have jobs that they do and then they just have stuff on the side that they want to do and And there's just a balance in that and how much fun it could I have without while making the most money in filling the safest like hand and at least moving upward in a decent way For you like do you have 15 years left like if you retire around 60 like is there's something that you could do to look forward to Your kids are gonna be graduating likely from school

So like I think I think I think you just have to channel that energy like your job is likely never going to change at this point

I mean it could like you could take a grand leap and change everything about your life and it can be great or it can be miserable And that's a huge risk that you could potentially take I wouldn't do that at at at at the at your point in life

“But it just feels like you need to channel your energy to something different”

Have something to look forward to do something On the side while still keeping what seems to be a pretty good and lucrative job for you Now this shouldn't come as like a shock to either of you But I'm more of a work to live guy than a live to work guy so I think That's maybe a perspective you should try and think and the other thing that I'm it's

rattle around on my brain as this guy said he did 19 years of Feeling good to at least better than indifferent about something like this isn't something that like You're you're getting like when we hear some guy who just got out of college and he's starting in this thing And he's like this is soul sucking and I hate this that's the guy where like well fuck it cut bait and like figured out This is not the same. I feel like you are in a bit of a bummer phase

So that's why I don't think like the big the big pivot at this point It's like it's probably more of a state of mind than like actually what the job is it's like he's He's giving all these bullet points. So like well, I had a sick manager. He's gone I used to have a great team now. It's bad. It's like you're in control of maybe changing the vibe on your team If you're like one of the senior people like you could put some energy there

Maybe even a different firm if you're like a you know if your guy who is hot shit and could go somewhere else like I think There's there's smaller incremental changes whether it's like the situation you already have We're looking at a at a different one. I think you're just in it. You're a little bit bummed out right now This could all be a matter of perspective. I think if you spend a little bit more time

Quite have yet try pickle balls sweeping the nation dude. I don't know like I think there's a my mom's

I'm going to shake you could try so I feel like this is entirely normal and It's it's almost predictable. I wouldn't even think of it as like a midlife crisis. Like I kind of like looking at stuff is like well What else what else could I do or what else because there are any seeds it can be planted? To you know even if they don't grow right are there any things that I can like things that I can do Where I'm like okay, maybe this is a pivot or maybe this is something like that

But I mean really this comes down to something really simple like you have this family you probably made really good money

“I don't know obviously based on the email what your financial situation is but like how important is money to you?”

My guess would be that you consider in the corporate banking world that at some point you wanted money and for somebody like me Who didn't grow up with it who didn't have it for a really long time like it became pretty important to me The rest of the way so you can sit there and make moves and do different stuff and then you go like okay Well now that I've done this this means I have to make this much money moving forward and I'm fine with that Some people look at it like

You know some somebody else might say like well, that's a lot of responsibility like I don't want the man to keep me down I say all right well cool enjoy your fucking van dude, you know like I don't You know we're not too many bands too. Yeah, so I don't like if you're happy with all that I admire that you're happy with that. This is what I wanted to do What you're probably doing right now is a very predictable thing of like hey

It's just gonna be over and then this is going to be it what I would push you to do what I don't know that it's a year off because then I would say how Talented are you how great is your network that you could take a year off really test yourself and then go You know what was kind of nice every two weeks getting a nice big check

“And not having to worry about sending my kids to college and all this different shit, right?”

You could you could try that hard Experiment and then you'd have your answer

It's like when I tell young people to move and be like always move because that way if you come home

You'll appreciate home better if you went somewhere else as opposed to always wondering so maybe there's some parallels there but I have to think that there's some way to scratch the basketball. It's that allows you to still have the nine to five man Like there's town team right there's got to be some non travel thing or you just go to your You're like how important are you to this company like what is your status there? Do you have enough choose to go in and say hey

Here's a deal. I grew up. I got hurt. I had 15 points in a quarter once in a school. I'm fucking I'm hot as can be Everybody thinks I look like celebrities and based on just the looks bias. We have in the world. Maybe you're so hot They're gonna let you do whatever you wanted to company. You say you've got me. I'm totally invested But for me and some sort of like reset it 50 years old. I have to have some basketball outlet I need this and I would imagine if it's another guy especially an older guy that's overseeing you

Whether you have a great relationship or it's it's just surface level He might completely understand he may have gone he likely has had these thoughts So there may be some way where they can accommodate you was is you're getting your work done and it doesn't have to just be like You know this completely different person

“Because you're feeling some shit right now feeling stuff which I think a lot of people”

Feel because it's normal because you kind of go through life and you're like I thought there was going to be like all this other stuff and you're like Yeah, there is but there are a lot of it's just kind of getting through it every day All right, that'll do it for the show today Thanks to Kyle thanks to Serruti thanks Tom thanks to Kevin a bonus show for you this week And then we'll have the France travel log out soon as well

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