Giannis Watch Hopefully Ending, Dusty May to Dallas & More NBA Draft/Offseason Rumors w/ Sam Amick

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But let's start with Janice where it feels like this is going to be now any moment that he could be with Miami Boston. Yeah, it's going to be with Ryan. It is funny.

We were just saying off air.

This is real time potting here at the Janice thing has been going on for so many years. I just choked with our long time bucks feet right our air name. I said man, why does our Celtics writer, J. King potentially get off the hook here, you know, the Jailing Brown saga is if the trade goes that way is going to wind up having lasted about, you know, six or seven days and it's just a seismic move potentially for Boston

if they can win these sweepstakes, or of course, maybe it goes to Miami way. So we'll see what happens today, you know, the context here, the bucks are the ones who put the unofficial deadline on themselves with ownership saying they wanted to get this time before the draft and like you said, a lot of other NBA action happening right now, too.

Yeah, what do you think Miami, because there's no other path for something like this, like you can understand Boston laying out.

“Can Miami make this pot sweet enough for Milwaukee to take this package?”

But when I again, I don't know if you're here disagree, but it just feels like Miami's probably a little bit more desperate for a path for a player that is this significant. For sure, although, I mean, at this point, the desperation level on the Boston side, I think is rising because the personal dynamics with Jailing are, you know, he's so out there now that you wonder, can they go back?

But to answer your question on the Miami side, you know, post Jimmy Butler, that is, you know, that since the Beatles, you know, and then Jimmy after that, you know, they need another error. They need another chapter and bam, as a fantastic player, but he certainly needs help and it's not the type of guy that's going to do it, I don't think, as a one A. So, yes,

the desperation is there. And, you know, like I've said all along, they've been more transparent about their pursuit and their interests, presumably because, you know, not to offend any of the guys in Miami, but it's just like the level of belief from their, you know, in their current current core is not at a level where the heat felt like they needed a tiptoe around this chase

if that makes sense. So, yeah, desperation level, very high. And I'm sure to be honest, they're probably frustrated if I had to guess because Boston had been laying in the weeds if you go back to the trade deadline in February and, and there was, you know, a lot of time where it seemed like Miami might have been in a one horse race when it comes to really being able to give Milwaukee the type of stuff that it was after. So, to have it now

seemed like a real neck and neck type of pursuit is a, is a, is a plot twist. Does this feel more than just like the one for one trade here that it would be a jail and brown, or then it's Miami's package and it's not whether it's the clippers and people talking about that number five pick or Atlanta or New Orleans. Does this start to feel like is where moments away from it just as very straightforward trade? It depends. I feel like the Miami option probably

opens up more possibilities, you know, the Detroit structure that has been out there is funny because it's been loud, but then it's also been refuted by some people involved in terms of

Detroit, you know, the Boston option, if the Celtics have their brothers, has always been potentially

“cleaner and that's been a sticking point, is that, you know, they understand of Lee C. Jalen as a”

guy that just finished 6th and MVP voting a guy that's coming off the best year of his career was 2 years younger than Yannis. And so while they know this won't get the deal done, they have for a lot of this, the sense I've gotten is taken a stance of like, no, it's, you know, the trade works if you just go Yannis for Jalen straight up, you know, you get off the superstar that doesn't want to be there anymore and you get a guy who's really, really, really good. But, you know,

of course, the bucks have been motivated to just get, you know, every last drop out of this deal and they want more. We're just surprised by Justin May being announced as head coach to the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, for sure. I didn't have a great read on what Messiah Jerry and the new group over there were doing. And I don't think anybody did, but then to come out a relatively nowhere with, you know, that kind of bombshell. It shouldn't be shocked and your Messiah, you know,

from his Denver days to his Toronto days has always done a really nice job of moving in the shadows

a bit. And so I knew that part of his profile and who he was. But, I mean, he's going big with everything he's doing and they are obviously, you know, this is one of the more kind of distinct phase two's for an organization that I can ever remember and I'm talking about the combination of rebuilding and then rehabilitating PR post-Luca for the Mavericks. You know, Messiah is the, the guy leading that charge. And so to send a message to Cooper Flag and into the fan base that,

“you know, this, this almost gets them a little farther away from the Luka Hangover, I think,”

where the fans at minimum now have got to realize that like they are, you know, their organization is operating in a very serious manner and, and trying to get something done and give them a new new area here. Yeah, it does seem like anybody associated with the Luka thing now, it's like they're doing this for them. But it also, like, I look, Dusty's had an awesome run, makes a determined, gets to Michigan two years, wins a title, they were a dominant team last year.

And I think it's, I think it's probably better than say, hey, it's Terry Stotz, you know,

because then it just kind of feels like there's no newness, there's no, but stuff always kind of

scares me. It always, but maybe that team is young enough, maybe the team is, if it were a veteran team and you're bringing in the college guy who's 49, I, I usually just assume that the, the pro guys are going to tune that guy out. Even if there's evidence that it hasn't always necessarily happened, you know, I'm not saying everything needs to be the disaster that was with John B. Line, but, uh, this is, this, this feels like, look how cool this is as opposed to, you know,

that seems to be the benefit of this of like a really energizing coaching higher from a guy just off in national championship. And maybe he's a stud too, so I don't know. Yeah, I would agree. And I don't have a great read on, on Dusty. I mean, I'm trying to think of cops, you know, I feel like the narrative over the past 20 years has shifted a little bit. Like for longest time, it was, it was just black and white. Like the college, the, the pro jump was not typically

successful. Um, and so, you know, you think about Patino and, and guys like that, um, the Billy Donovan experience was an interesting hybrid in terms, like, you know, he's been successful. He's not one championship, but, you know, he is a respected NBA coach and a guy who NBA players listen to, um, you know, and, and to your point about the math roster, it will see, you know, um, if, you know, and Kyrie's going to be part of that going forward, but a lot of youth and a lot

of guys that, uh, they just saw what he did in the tournament and at the highest level, so we'll see for work. All right, other draft day scenarios. Um, what are you willing to believe is possible

“with the top pick? And let's say the top three or four. I still, um, you know, I think this was, uh,”

the great David Aldridge, and hopefully I'm assigning credit properly to this thought that stuck with me regarding the number one pick. But, um, there was a line about the wizards and how much messaging they had done about leadership. And so I know it's talent first, and you cannot mess up the number one pick. But when you're looking at AJ and Monson, Darren Peterson, and all the smoke about them not being decided, and the idea that it might actually be Darren. And again, you're going

off, this, we're not trying to define these young men, but you're just going off the, the, the intel

Darren. AJ is widely considered it, you know, a better leader in a guy that has less question marks

“around him. And so I still probably uh, would lean that way that I think the wizards go with a”

guy that that pops on film so much. And then, you know, you feel like this being a possible franchise cornerstone, you know, that might have some of those intangibles as well. Uh, I don't know if, you know, the wizards are still thinking somebody might come at him with a godfather or offer in the last minute here or what the incentive is to not just kind of tell your guy that he's your guy, but, but obviously we're still in that stand right now. Yeah, I think that's probably part of it

is if you think it's close, just let everybody else think that you haven't made a decision to see if there's some sort of move up there. Um, that leadership thing was Aldrich because we had the senior in KOC on we did this big draft episodes and they brought up the exact same thing of like, aren't it? If you're drafting AJ, he checks that box a little bit more than Peterson does, Peterson to his own admission is a bit more of like, I don't know if recluse is too strong

of word here, but somebody who was like, I, you know, I'm not, I just kind of want to hang back. I don't necessarily want to be that guy. Although if you're watching and you go, okay, well, what's the point of having tray? Do you have tray young already in place there does AJ? Does this

number one pick have to be this incredible leader? Um, but then again, the tray thing was kind of

funny because it went from option to then a three year extension, which everyone assumed was happening this whole time anyway, correct? Right. Yes, 100%. I mean, that if he has plays into the equation, but even if trays there, um, endless and trays older, wiser, uh, and so not to say he's not a leader in any sense, but he's, you know, that's not a guy that has been typically marked as, as they,

“you know, let me put my arm around you and bring the young bucks up. Uh, so I think even with”

tray there, that to me, they would be lacking in that department. Um, but who knows, honestly, if they AJ stuff is, is, is overhyped a bit, you know, these are still 19 year olds that, uh, you know, that are going to have our time leading a franchise. They're just trying to figure out the lead. All right. Um, after that, I imagine you like everybody else, this clipers, like, hey, they don't want to pick, they don't want to pick. I mean, it seems to be the highest pick that

is most rumored to be on the move, which sometimes it just becomes so, when everybody starts saying it over and over again, I'm kind of like, all right, well, maybe, maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up or have any expectations when the clipers end up handing in a name there at five, but where are you on the first available pick in the lottery? Yeah, I mean, clipers land in general is mysterious these days, uh, because for one, not to go too macro, but, you know, they, they have

this James Harden situation that, you know, you know, the sequence of events. He knew that, that, uh, they didn't have committed money to him down the road. He knew that the summer of 27 and clearing their books was their priority, and so he got out of Dodge and pushes his way to Cleveland.

I bring that up because with Kawai sitting here with one year left on his deal, $50 million and,

and no extension to speak of, um, that alone has had people wondering what are the clipers doing see-bomber we know has the final say there and, and the somebody in tell has been that Steve didn't want to trade Kawai. I mean, then as it relates to the, the number five, it's, you know, just what sorts of scenarios are they sifting through, um, to either pivot to, to the rebuild, which it didn't look like they were trying to do with the deadline. When, you know, yes,

you're collecting picks, but you can get some good players as well. Um, all of which is to say, I, I don't know where Lawrence Frank and that group are going to go. Um, it, it feels like the deal making route is, is very likely, uh, going to be what they do as opposed to just taking the pick, but, but I could be wrong. We'll see. What about the pursuit of Kawai, bioteems? Um, I mean, the, I, it's funny because like, you hear that bomber doesn't want to move him, but then people

push back and say, well, that's kind of what you tell. Like the warrior's for example, they, I don't think they have a lot of optimism, uh, to actually getting Kawai. So then it just becomes is that because the clipers are not in love with what the warriors have to offer. On top of that, I do think there's a little bit of a, you know, kind of Pacific Division California component there. I don't know that they're looking to see Kawai move up the coast and play in the bay. So what is the

clipers answer when, you know, some other mystery team that we're not aware of is, is going after

“Kawai, you know, we, I think we're going to get to Detroit eventually, but like, seems like that”

that that need, uh, another guy, and you'd another piece, uh, you know, then maybe the answer is different

it honestly, it feels, Ryan, a little bit like, like, with the Jailin Brown situation, we all kind of tiptoed around the elephant in the room, which is like, no, like, he's going to, he's got to be in the deal and his future in that particular market might be in question. I feel like we're tiptoeing with Kawai to, like, the signs are, you know, are there, the writings on the wall, like, if they did this with James, they're not committing to older, veteran stars. They are, they're trying to

“shift, and that's what they've been planning on doing for quite some time. They just, they seem like they”

don't want that narrative to grow just yet. The problem I'd have with Kawai here is he'll be,

well, 35 this season, he's at 50 million, and when I talked to other teams about, like, just,

hey, you know, it would be moved if he was up here, what if he goes there, like, look how good he was last year. I go, yeah, he was unbelievable. Like, we voted him all in B.A., like, you could argue one of the best seasons he's ever had based on some of the advanced stuff. But if he's an expiring, as much as that might be enticing because you're like, oh, if he's hurt all the time, he's an expiring, then there's less risk there. But I also argue knowing him and help out of a partner

he is, and all those other years were he's hurt, and he's working out at one side of the facility, and nobody knows if he's going to be available, like, tomorrow night, or if it's going to be three weeks because he doesn't talk to anybody. So if he's on an expiring, and worried about his next contract, I can't imagine what level of, my guess would be that level of commitment is not exactly what you'd be hoping for when you're bringing this guy. 100%. There's a lot of data points. There's

a lot of red flags. You know, I covered that clipper stuff. Years ago, very extensively, and you are correct about the way that he moves. You know, we talked about leadership and in some of those

intangibles, like, coarsely incredible player, but he's not rallying a locker room. It's just not what

he's doing. So I couldn't agree with you more, and, you know, I mean, just to just to, you know, muck it up a little bit, maybe Masai should just try to rewrite history and do it again, and, you know, bring Kawada Dallas out of the expiring and see what he can do, like it didn't Toronto.

“But I think those red flags, jokes aside, like those, the league has so much clarity about”

who Kawai is, and that's just the good and the bad. And then, of course, like we don't even mentioned, they, yes, guess what, you still have this investigation hanging over your head. And you do still run into some executives. Like, by and large, I think it would get worked out. But like,

there are people still asking, is there anything disciplined-wise potentially attached to him

that could impact a move like that? I mean, you still have people, you know, wanting the answer to that question with the aspiration, investigations still not included. Okay, you mentioned Detroit there. And I know, when we go through this Laker stuff where they have cap space, but they actually don't have cap space because the cap holds, so they could have all that cap space that they wanted to, but then who are they going to spend it on? They probably want to keep

some of their own players. Detroit came up as a scenario here. I thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah, so they, and I don't have a right in front of me, they would have to renounce fair number of guys to get, you know, the type of space that it would take to get somebody like Austin Reeps, but, you know, like I reported, he's certainly very much on their radar, and, you know, they're monitoring that. I mean, simultaneously exploring things like the Tyler Hero,

“structure, and a potential agonistial, I think, you know, both of those things are obviously not going”

to happen. So the job opening, so to speak, is like for the Pistons level up player, level up move, you know, who is that going to be? It's tough, because, you know, we talk about older players who are productive, Tobias Harris coming out of a fantastic year and a really good playoff run. So like, renouncing him is, is no small fan, but to get the money, you would have to do it, and with Austin, you know, I think it's, and similarly with LeBron, the Lakers are trying to

thread this needle right now where they want to find the right price point, where they have a responsible roster, because they're trying to augment around Luca, because they know they've got to get better, but they also can't disrespect Austin or LeBron with the price point that they come in at, you know, those things are happening right now, and things like the Pistons, I think they're at the front of that line, as far as Austin goes, are kind of just waiting to see

where that lands. Now, from a leverage standpoint, you know, the Yanis Outcome, I think has a domino effect on Austin, because if the Boston trade happens, you know, in that other scenario is off

no, pay me. So, you know, that part we don't know yet, but yeah, the Pistons, I do think our sneaking going to be a team that we're going to look at, and they're going to be in the headlines in some fashion in the next couple of weeks. All right. The Lakers, where I imagine they're going to try to go to Reeves, although the Reeves previous deal, they made out like bandits on, right, because he was restricted, nobody would want to go out there, son of the offer sheet. So, um, then

if you're the Lakers are going like, okay, well, where are you going to go for the kind of number that

“you want, right? That's what all these free agents are dealing with right now. I think LeBron and some”

of the discussion about Rich Paul saying like, "Well, why does my guy have to take a haircut?" And honestly, like, I don't blame the agent for saying that stuff all the time, but if he wants to come back at

50 plus million, then it's like, you cannot be upset next year. You cannot be upset next year when

you don't have a better center. So, is there any feeling of like, everybody teeming up here, all the agents involved, these two players going, if we can work out of real reasonable number, we can bring Ruby back, we've still are able to upgrade its center. Like, what do you want to do here? Because if you want every last dollar, we're probably not going to be any better than we were last year. I mean, right, it's a wonderful idea, and I absolutely do not think this happening. Like,

I just don't. I really don't. That's the next thing. That's what, you know, Jalen Bronson takes 113 million dollar haircut, sets the tone, you know, and now they got the chip, and we'll see if other players in New York, you know, move similarly to try to go for the

“collective, I guess, but with the Lakers, no, I think LeBron and his people are in their world.”

I think Austin and his people are in their world and same with Ruby. I mean, you know, I even checked on kind of the Ruby vibe the other day, and didn't get any numbers in terms of what he's looking for, but the fact that the messaging very quickly was, no, if he's, if he doesn't get market, like he's prepared to leave, you know, and it's just same vibe with all of them. It's it's all three

of them basically saying, I'm prepared to leave. And so I will say, and I've argued with my buddy

Lakers be right or Dan Wookie about this, from athletic is like, all right, that's great, but like, you're not going to be any better. You're just not, like if you, you know, like because there's, if you focus on other, you're going to be screwed if they lose Austin. Well, they're also going to be screwed if they pay Austin too much and same thing for LeBron. And that's where having just watched San Antonio and OKC and even the Minnesota's in the Denver's in a West, like, without that spirit

that you are asking about, like, I don't know how the Lakers level up here. Yeah, I, I don't know how they improved the center situation. Yeah. Even if guys didn't take as much, I mean, this Walker cuts their story. Some of these players, they just don't understand restricted free agency. This seems to happen once or a few years where it's like, I can't believe that's like, this is the way you're handling. If they offered him five years, one, 40, I don't know

of the language on some of the guarantees in the back end aren't as good. I know that you have it on records. That was offered. So I don't know. I don't know the full details of the entire

“contract. But what number is he looking for? Five or 140 isn't going to get it done?”

I mean, my feeling is for one, I don't think he's looking to sign for that long. That's one thing. You know, so the length is, you know, I think he's looking for more flexibility on that front. You are correct. You know, that that that offer, it was put to me that it was, you know, it was roughly accurate. So it's in that neighborhood. I don't know all the details, the options, the backdrop here is that for one, this is, and I'm not saying this is a huge part of the story.

But, you know, this is partly, you know, be careful what you wish for when they've been tanking for a few years. And there's this sense, you know, I think from Walker's side, that there's a little bit like, man, I paid this penance and played along with this for quite some time. Even as injury last year with the shoulder, you know, there were times when people thought it was ready to roll. And it's just when when you, you're kind of messing with the best of all

gods like they did and it paid off. The guys who went through that, and I've seen this before, sometimes just think that there's something waiting for them on the back end. But I don't know,

I mean, this is definitely something, 140 million dollars is not nothing. I think it would make

him the highest paid big man in the league who has not been in all star and not been all NBA. So, you know, that, I just think that personal dynamic in the relationship between Walker and the front office has gotten a bit sideways long before even this negotiation. And I don't have

does cross my mind like, is, does you just want to play somewhere else now? You know,

does you want to go play for the Lakers? Now, in fairness, you know, Walker after the story came out, you know, put up kind of a cryptic Instagram post, that cryptic, but just professing his love

“for Utah and the market and the city. So, you can tell it's like, Yannis Light, you know what I mean?”

It's like that spreading the needle of, let me apply pressure to my situation, business wise, while not being, you know, offending the fanbase to a place where we're on then uncomfortable. So, all of which is to say, you know, we'll see where that lands. He would be a wonderful addition to the Lakers if they could find a sound and trade scenario there, but I don't see him making that kind of money. And that scenario, because, because then like we

said earlier, then you don't have room for Austin and LeBron.

Yeah, that would doesn't make, man, Utah is going to get expensive, though, huh? Between Larry between JJ, this number is a Kessler, this guy have a county George wants to deal with, I imagine whoever they draft starts in place of whatever your number two option was,

“because LeBron is going to play the small forward. So, I don't know if Debonds, if he falls the two,”

if Peter sent it to, then it sort of makes sense in there. I've heard rumors about Caleb Wilson even the number two, but it's just from basketball standpoint, even if I don't want to draft based on the eat, that one just doesn't make a ton of sense if you already have JJ and you re-signing Kessler and all this kind of stuff. I'd imagine the Wilson go ahead. Well, I was going to make sure to add on to what you said. We talked about the media stuff and

Walker's situation. I did have a great appreciation for, I don't know who's leaking what, but man, the media handling. So, I write my thing about that situation being pretty strained. ESPN has the numbers on the contracts and now the world knows what was offered to Walker, but the one that flew under the radar a little bit is my guy Tony Jones, quickly reporting that the jazz are seriously looking at a camp loser, which I, that one made

me smile and laugh a little bit, because it just seemed like a very clear like a Walker, you know, guess what? We have a very cheap option here, relatively speaking, where we could go ahead and draft the guy whose father works for the organization and fill that job that you clearly aren't excited about filling. I mean, just in terms of leverage and options and the way that the team's move, I thought that was an interesting decision. I'd have to think Cam is at least like they have

a hard conversation about it, where they go. Are we going to be screwing this? But at the same time, too, it's like, what are you going to run your front line out there, especially if you don't bring Kessler back? But then Kessler, what you could come back in the qualifying offer and then started again, but I, I understand like the Kessler argument a little bit, it's like I sat out all these games, we tanked, like I did the, I did right by you, but I still felt like whenever

that contracts announced, whenever it's finalized, it's going to just lead to NFL players, quote, tweeting that Walker Kessler deal, going, I can't believe the NBA contracts that happened. Booser, go ahead, did you have something else? Yeah, well, the more context come, agree or not, if you run, if you go back to February at the trade deadline, and this was in the story, but like a driving force behind the way that Walker sees his market is that before the

Pacers made the trade with the clippers for Zubaj and the two first and that massive package that

you know, the data to backfiring for Indiana, they went after Walker. And so the, the other, it's, it's almost like a situation where you know too much if you're him, like Walker knows what a team like Indiana was willing to put on the table for him back then, and that is largely informing the way that he sees his market. Now, I get that no question, but that scenario is no longer in play. That team went out and got another big, you know, like that, and that does not

directly apply to restricted free agency, where like you said earlier, like now it's the time where it's only teams with room that can give you an offer sheet. And so you might think that your value is here, and it is if, if you are hitting unrestricted free agency, but you're not there yet.

“So it's all these different conflicting data points that are, I think, leading to the”

conflict in the actual conversation. Booser, who people expect to end up in Memphis may not have jaw as a teammate, what's the latest on the job market? It, I was told that Memphis has been waiting intentionally to see what Miami does, because they have, it seemed like they have, I don't know how many teams are in each bucket, but you have two different types of job market, suitors, and I think,

are the Sacramento Kings who basically say, we think you'd be great, but his value is very low

right now, and so we would take him, and we would also love to have some draft compensation in return as well, which Memphis is not looking to do that. Then you've got potentially a team like the heat, where if they swing a miss on the honest, that maybe they'd be more incentivized to actually do something that could help Memphis turn the page here. So I don't know how many teams are in each of those buckets, but that is the kind of the distinction between them, and it seems

like Memphis is, again, just waiting to see if Miami is going to get involved here. New Orleans has certainly been mentioned, Minnesota, but, you know, it's insane to me, and I get all the right

flags ever ported on a lot of them, but it still blows me away that, you know, we're talking about

John Moran and the type of value that is being assigned to him is just a little right now, but we'll

“see where that goes. I'm not shocked because I don't know, I think he's one of the most delusional”

athletes in recent memory. I think all the stuff that's happened in gone wrong in Memphis, there's not any moment that I've ever felt like he's gone, like, hey, maybe I need to change my approach here. And I think we're the same page of like what his peak talent was and how great it was, but he's become a worse shooter. He's become, I would say, a worse teammate. He's not a leader whatsoever. So if Miami misses out on the honest thing, it's like, so you're going to give the keys to this guy.

If you're Minnesota, you're like, what are we doing? Like, are we attaching ourselves to a name? Are we, are we doing what I think is very repeatable? And I shouldn't say mistake all the time, but the guys that are buckets are so coveted and the GMs are like, it's so hard to get these guys that they do whatever they can every single time to bring in one of these players. And a lot of times

“I'm like, I don't think you're bringing in that player anymore. And for John, I would be totally”

fine, being completely wrong. If I were GM and it's like down to me and two or three other teams, I go, I'm fine. I'm fine. And if I end up having my own or get mad because John scored 30 game, I'm totally okay with me making that mistake because I just think it's been going downhill Sam for multiple seasons on top of injury concerns, on top of the contract concerns. And I'm not even like giving him that hard of a time about some of the stuff that's happened to him because I'm not

right up much of a moralist. But what I would say is that his reaction after the fact, whether it's the Jalen Rose interview, whether the Malika things way before any of this stuff. But every time he's had some like, you get some time with him to be like, all right, where's his head at right now? I would say it's generally disappointing. That's all very fair. And our friend and colleague Kirk Goldferry, this comes to mind, like take all the drama off the court away and

Kirk has put out some incredible videos and information and analysis regarding the decline

in Josh's game and getting to the rim and his shot efficiency. And none of that is anything to do with, you know, the guns, the strip clubs, this and that, that's not it or the vibe or the attitude. It's really just the basketball. And so it's had somewhat of a little bit of the Russell Westbrook thing where an incredibly athletic player who doesn't have the well-rounded game

“later in his career. And you see the impact that has. And you know, I think the thing that still”

makes me marvel at how low the value is is because you look up and you, you think he, well, he's got to be at least 32 years old, right? And it's like, no, he's 26. Like, you kidding me? Like, it's insane. And honestly, not to get melodramatic, but like, from a lifestyle point, it's, it's, I feel for him. Like, it's way too young to have the star fading like it is and maybe he's got another chapter in him. But everything you hit on just basketball was is absolutely fair. And in terms of how

he's moved through all this stuff, you know, yeah, there has not been that, that may have a couple of, you know, let me figure out how to look inward and figure this thing out moment. And I think how the team see that. Can you give us any more draft insight? And just like, hey, this is somebody that you think everybody's going to be fighting over somebody else that you think is, I don't know, if it's, it's loss of momentum or anything like that, just as we get ready for tomorrow.

Admittedly, my friend, the downside of having a wonderful draft expert at our place, like San Fesini, is that I'm, I'm not the best on the draft. We, you got to get him on here. I, I, I, I, I'm in Yana's mode right now. I'm in Lakers mode. I'm in, you know, Detroit mode,

this is going to show you how bad I am on the draft. Why am I blanking? Is that looking my phone?

“Who's big fella for Michigan? The, uh, Mara, thank you. The Mara market and the teams that”

you talk to, and this, this, this actually tied back into the Utah stuff a little bit. The general concept in this Victor Weminama MBA to, you know, whatever piece of the MBA pie he's part of now. Like, I, I'm, I'm really curious to see where Mara goes because he just kept hearing his name, uh, in terms of like, it's the Wemi effect. It's, it's, whether it's Walker Kessler, or, like, you know, I wrote this a few weeks back. Like, the jazz, if they could have Kessler, you know,

marketing and triple J, that sort of size, in versatility, is the type of stuff that will help you against Victor Weminama. The next just showed, if you have Carl Anthony Towns, OG Anna Nobi, Mr. Robinson, that's the luxury helps you against Victor Weminama. With Mara, it feels like if it was three years ago, uh, and maybe I'm missing a mark with this, but, you know, he could be a, you know,

an early second, uh, and in, in the draft, and all of a sudden, you know, his value is very much

getting assigned to, uh, the way the game is changing right now with Victor at the center of it.

“Yeah, I think that that's spot on, um, because I was kind of shocked to see him all the way up to eight,”

you know, I think that probably is his ceiling on where he could go, and it also may just make a lot of sense for Atlanta to go. Well, we need a center. We need some other size to put with a conglue and put next to him. So I do think that there's been some like need stuff in the lottery where you can figure out, I can't believe that Aaron Wiggins only gets you a couple of second rounders with that contract there. That was, that was surprising to me. Uh,

as interesting as the beginning of getting an A plus for once, you know, yeah. Yeah. I know he was kind of out of the rotate, but I mean, he was, he was a real contributor to the last year's Dean, like there were times where he was getting 20 plus minutes, the night and huge playoff games for a team that's winning a title, um, with that contract. That was, that was somewhat surprising. Uh, look, enjoy this Janice March. It feels like it's almost

over. We'll see who knows about time. This posts. I could be doing a special on Janice and more else. Uh, hopefully it does. Hopefully it's a little bit later tonight. And then we'll do something in the morning. But I enjoy the draft, Sam. Thank you. Thanks, Ryan. You good. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari 355 KBLA. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fort. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids. I am liquid. So, now you

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a fair excuse for you. Kyle was supposed to come. Did have a prior engagement. He did miss a good time. But we were there Saturday. I was there with my wife. And duty was awesome. It was so much machina cock. It's beautiful. The courses. I mean, just like watching that courses and saying because like dudes are like pitching from 50 yards away and struggling to keep it on the green. We had a blast. So to Jonathan Griffin all the guys, it was a lot of fun.

Looks like you got yourself a new hat there. Oh, we did. We done it up, right? Yeah, he got there.

Absolutely dominated the merch. Did they have, I mean, they just have incredible stuff there.

Do you get some nice for your dad, Father's Day? My dad's not a golf dude. I get all in any way shape or form. So he got to hang out with kids. That was a good time. I did get something for my mom. Because my mom actually is more of the golf person than my dad. But which is, you know, a little funny. But now was all good. But yeah, it was a big weekend. Father's Day was awesome. U.S. men's national team. Advances wins the group. Smoke. Another win. I mean,

vibes are high all around. Shina cock. It was great. Yeah. So it was a lot of fun.

“Did you meander? Or did you pick a spot and like post up for that? So it was so good. So in I think”

it was 2013. I was at Marion in Philly and we it was I was with my mom and we just sat on the

and it was the Sunday too. So we saw the end of the turn. I believe Justin Rose won. This time,

“we, we just, we just tried to like figure out different spots along the course. And I was”

asking like the guys for advice. But it's, it's sort of hard. We looked out because we basically

Scotty shed, we felt Scotty a lot and we followed Rory a lot. And they were basically back to back. So I would jump ahead a couple of holes, find a decent spot, wait for them to come through, watch them play through, try to get maybe like a green vantage point. We could see the approach shot and then the puts. So we kind of did that and looked out and then one of the holes like Rory, Rory, Rory, Rory walked like, I've had on my Instagram story, like walked like right by me

through the, through obviously the gallery and everyone's just yelling, yeah, Rory, I mean, it was funny too, because like Windham Clark wins the thing. And I, I wasn't around Windham a ton, like the vibes were not great on Sunday. People were definitely running against him. It's even like, I wasn't around him on Saturday at ton, but people were definitely rooting for Rory.

I would say more than Windham and certainly Scotty too. Obviously, trying to compete the,

the career glance, grand slam thing, but man, it was cool. Up close to personal seeing how frustrated those guys get with just how tough the course is, because again, the greens are like domes. They don't really, like, ball just doesn't stay on there unless you put it in a very specific spot, but and the wind was crazy too. I was crazy windy out there on Long Island. So I think they said that's like maybe that or Oakmont, like the toughest course of any U.S. open course.

“Do those guys swear too? Well, Wind, that's why people don't like Windham, I guess, because he's a”

little bit more surreal. I don't know. He likes to fly a little bit. He throws some clubs. He breaks stuff. He doesn't. He's like, I guess he's anti-Kid. I don't know, maybe that was a prior version of himself. But yeah, I didn't see anybody yelling or anything like that, but I guess that was one of the reasons that people didn't like Windham. I didn't know the background behind Windham. He is, they were definitely rooting against him. Yeah, that's the way it came across on TV.

And then I don't know that there's any text threats. I was a part of it. It was like, oh, yeah, I really hope Windham pulls us off. So I don't know what's going on there. I'm not plugged in enough. I thought it was incredibly cool to just father jumped on a red eye from Denver and surprised him and that Windham didn't know that his dad was there to watch him close out when the US opened. So I thought that part was really cool. I, you know, I get the Sheffler part of it. And then

there's this push where Windham has a huge lead and you're like, this thing's going to fall apart. But it's just so hard at that course. Like, I can't believe it was even something where what was he six up, seven up at one point. And then it got back to like one. It's just not the kind of course you feel like you can put together that many holes and make up that kind of ground. So yeah, I think there were people were saying he kind of, this is unfair, I guess, to say,

but that it's seen as like he had won the course in like basically a 45 minute period. I think on

the Thursday because it was like a fog delay. And that's where he just kind of jumped out. And basically just kind of played keep away for the rest of the tournament. But you know, Scotty tried to make a run. I saw we were on 16. We saw Scotty miss an eagle put on a par five that would have put him right back in it. And that was a big miss. I think he wanted to poke another one later. They were trying, but it dude, it's just hard to score there. I can't be watching. We watched this shot where

Rory almost drove the green. I think this was 10. He almost drove the green had maybe a 50 foot, just kind of like pitch up and he and his partner could not keep it on the green. They were both

“very similar distances away. And end up in both of them ended up making bogey. Like, that's how hard”

that course was. A professional making bogey from 50 yards out. Yeah, the mound or however those greens were working. It's like, okay, is it going to stay up and it's like nope. Now you're chipping back on hoping somehow to save par. I was talking to the guys too, because I think early in the week, people were complaining, oh, the conditions are too easy. And they're like, yeah, you know, everybody can plant and nobody's ever happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but man, like,

I know the US opened that they try to keep it notoriously very difficult. I, that would be I saw thing going around there asking a bunch of golfers like what would like an 18 handy cap with you at Chinacock on a day like that. And they were like 125 probably be the overrunner. You know, a cool 100 free boy and Friday. So you got this 20. You broke 100, right?

I usually was. No, the scores are getting worse. You're your head too much. You said, I actually, you know, it's funny. You sent me a swing video. I was that last week and I did show the boys at the USGA at the media. They, they, we all agreed to actually kind of look pretty good. It was clean. Yeah, the swing is getting better. The scores are not. Hey, progress. I was linear. Yeah. I was better off just going over the top shooting like a

load 90. Now I'm like, everybody's like, man, the tempo looks great. You're getting your hands inside. Like, there's a lot to like there. Like, uh, another seven. Yeah, Mark down double. Give me a seven boys. All right. Let's let him hear those guys. That's a lot of fun. Yeah. No, thanks. I'm glad that that all worked out. Looks like you got yourself a pretty sweet lid, too. All right, everybody even say, we'll be, we'll be rotating to rotate those of the next couple of days. Okay. All right. I'm sharing

beds at a bachelor party. Life of I saw RRG mill.com. This is such a non starter. I mean, depends on the

able to do a plank with a 25 pound weight in my back for four minutes. And then I go every day before

“work. Yeah, that is a long time. I'm 25. I'm going on my first bachelor party in the fall. I'm in the”

wedding. And my other friend is in the wedding text me a few weeks ago that we might have to share beds based on what the groom had best man told him. I told him that's ridiculous. And that I'm going to be an asshole about it all the way to the end. That's nice. There's 14 guys. It seems excessive. 99% chance to be in Miami. The groom happened to be in my city for work last week. I asked him about it and he said, "It's a possibility. Hopefully not the case." I responded to get the

fact that we can all afford to have our own bed. We cannot be getting drunk all week and going back to Airbnb and share a bed with another dude. The groom is super nice but also kind of a pushover. He's not going to be the bad guy and it all likely hit his fiance from college who we all know and her friends with is going to have a hand in planning it. Am I overreacting here? Is this something

strongly to strongly argue against? Seems absolutely absurd, but it's my first one. So maybe

I'm completely off-base. Thanks for the help and it's someone who has student debt appreciate facilities. Many ran a couple months ago about not feeling badly for schools that are having financial issues. Yeah. Let's pull on the outlet, expanding. Yeah. All right. Sharing beds 25 is about the end of that time. Isn't it? I'm sure to bed. I'm sure to bed. Many beds. I mean, civil war air are those guys. It was like a given. You share a bed with your best friend. Just kind

of strengths in the relationship, didn't it? So, you know, we're not so far removed from that. But yeah, 25 is when I'm on the timeline of man. You're right. It's not that long ago. But yeah, I mean, I guess the question is like, if this is just an absolute cluster fuck of a bachelor party like planning phase, like sometimes like the guy who's in charge of the bachelor party, which was the best man, he's not there for his logistic prowess. He's there because

they're, you know, they're better friends than everyone else. And like that could be a bit of a bummer. I'm kind of in the throes of that right now, by the way, Serity might need September 3rd to 6th off. We'll keep it updated. There's 18 dudes in a Scottsdale house. And they're like, it might get a little funky with the arrangements. I don't think we're going to be like, you know, two dudes in a bed, but it might be like somebody's using couch cushions on the floor. I don't know how

it's going to work. But like, but I'm watching this go in the texture. I don't like, I'm not sure that guy who's in charge of this is the right man for the job. And this is where it's sort of rearing. It's like we had. So this might just be a really bad planning thing. I guess you could go there out and be like, listen, I'll be, I'll be at the house by 9 a.m. every day. But I am going to be in that hotel room. That's a block away. You could do that. I don't think it's a deal breaker dudes

would talk about you. If you if you bow out of the shitty sleeping arrangements, but just make

sure you're there on time for the activities every day. I lost you for a second. The question is

about sharing bets, right? He just doesn't want to share it. Dude. I mean, if half the baths of parties, I feel like I've been on. I've either had like a cot on the floor. I'm sure to bet. And, you know, as you get older, yeah, that gets kind of older. You're 25 years old, man. Like, I don't, I just feel like this is kind of far for the court. You're also going to look back at these days and be like, that was awesome. You know, like one of my favorite, I've told

this story. But one of my favorite times was when I slept on my buddy at the University of

“Delaware, I slept on his floor with like a wet towel. And I think I had like an Xbox with like a pillow”

I heard about my head. And yeah, it was the worst side of sleep I probably ever got in my life. But like, it's a story you tell the guys later and it's like just something funny that happens. Like, it's something you live through. And you're going to miss that and want to tell stories. Like, so yeah, all right, it's not going to be the most fun thing in the world. But like, dudes, if I had way worse experiences of basketball parties, okay, you have a bed. You could probably pick,

do you know, does he know somebody else there? Like, do you just pick who to sleep with? That's you, we use it just drafted like different bedrooms. That's kind of how it works. And you go from there. Like, it's not really like you're not going to get the best sleep of your life and that weekend. That's kind of not what it's about. It's about just hanging out with the guys and being around. So if you're going to be the guy that's complaining about things like this, like it's not going to

go over. Yeah, if you're going to try to start a revolution at 25 for this, I don't think you're going to get all the states to ratify is my, you know, I don't think that, you know, Delaware is not in

“on this one. Like, you're going to have to, you guys have to be close to 30. I think before it's enough”

for dudes to like actually cause a, a ruckus about this. So I think you got to read the room and eventually just, you know, everyone knows how you feel now. Yeah, the commitment to being an asshole about this to the very end, you might want to reconsider that if you're really not getting any motion on what you're trying to do here. So would you, would you say he's trying, he's like the Thomas Payne trying to kind of write common sense in this situation? Yeah. Yeah. There's a little more Patrick Henry, I don't know.

Look, um, just get a hotel room. Just get a hotel room. Oh, that's the door to you. No, man. It does.

give him credit for showing up, you know, getting out of that hotel room and showing up for our shitty

“coffee and Chick-fil-A breakfast sandwiches at nine o'clock. You know, he did it as long as it's the”

commitment there, though. If you do, if you do get the hotel room, you got to make sure you're, you know, you're not missing. Very often. And half the skin. Yeah. If this guy's already this determined to be a jerk about it, though, right? So 25's probably on the earlier run of like having this be on the off ramp, which right. 25's probably the earliest where you'll have a guy in the group to be like, hey, I don't really necessarily wanted, well, nobody wants to do it. There's very

few guys are like, hey, this is awesome. We're all going to share bets. But you look to say 35, it's a non-star to guys aren't showing up. They're like, I'm not going to go do this. But 25,

you still get some guys doing it. My, my guess is like you are maybe, I don't want to say the

difficult friend out of the group, but just based on the way you've talked about some of the stuff already, just only telling yourself the favor. And there's, right, their expectations for you and what you're going to do. Well, instead of deciding like, hey, I'm going to take great pride in being a jerk about it the entire weekend, just go get a hotel room. And then they can make fun of you. You can make fun of them. And you're actually getting what you want. And you're probably doing

them a favor because if you're going to wake up every day, going, I can't believe we're sharing beds and it's day three, nobody's going to want to hear it. Even though I agree with you. Also, not everyone's going to share bets. Can you just try to tilt the scales and have the, have the

work friends share a bed like who's got the least pull? There's no way that they would get

a book a house where every single one of these 14 dudes has to share a bet. And if they are booking a house with seven bedrooms for 14 guys, again, that's back to that goes back to the top and the best man needs a, you know, I guess deposits are made, but that's crazy. What about this? Because we've done, I don't know if this exists, but it does exist for like traveling with kids, like, you know, we would rent like a pack and play or, you know, you rent toys for the beach,

whatever if you got vacation. Can you just rent like an air mattress or something and just load up yourself and, I don't know, post up somewhere you want to post up like is that, is it that hard? Or are you just buy one? I don't know. I think the air mattress market has come down in the last few years. You can probably find one with the, with the little motor in it, too for anything

“you expect. So you're going here. And he too. You have to use it. Yeah, I would use it. Air”

mattresses, it did feel like that moment is passed. Serity. I think there was a big, like, yeah, it's just great. Yeah, because it's over, you have a video over here. You go, you sleep on the floor. Let me get this machine going. My guess is better than, right? We're in the middle of that, though, because like, we're at capacity at the house with for like bed space. And so when we have people over the air mattress comes out a lot. Oh, yeah. So I've been on the air mattress a few times since I moved back.

That's not bad. No complaints. I think they've gone better. All right. All right. 20 year gap in relationship with a married woman. Oh, there we go. 28 five foot five, but I tell people on five six. 175, no gym stats, but five k time is 32 minutes. Two years ago, I moved back to my hometown after eight years away from home, the military. I met this woman at a bar and had it one night stand. One week later, she calls this issue, wants to meet against sober. I go and come to find out

she's 20 years older than me and married. I thought it would just be a quick summer fling. We did hikes every other week in the summer, so she'd get away from her family spend time each week. What? Just so she could get away from her family. Yeah. I guess that structure of that sentence is like, do you like hiking or do you hate your family? I kind of took it as both. It's over in the middle. She's willing to do anything. Just to get away. Yeah. Maybe she hates hiking. Yeah. It's got to keep this guy on

the hook. It's like, all right, we're going to do a car wash for what have you raised in money for? I'm now. I don't know. I'm just going to be just going to be four hours. I guess we're on a half

“marathon tomorrow. I've never done that before. I'm just going to get out of the house. I think about”

fishing a lot lately. All right. We did hikes every other week in the summer, so she could get away from her family and spent time with each other a few times a week. All right. The summer and her relationship await. The summer ended our relationship. Didn't we kept doing her best to see each other? And after two years of being together, she's finalized or divorced. Now that it is final, she is worried that she's too far committed with me and may comments about how she has been

singles since being 20. So that's 28 years. Most sure feels like she's been single the last couple years, buddy. All right. That she's missing out on it along with that she tells me I could move on and find some of my age and that she is ruining my life. She's worried about losing me but also wants to enjoy the single life after 23 years of marriage. She tried to give me an out by throwing

30s with someone in the 50s, et cetera. I don't want to leave her but what should I do?

Well, it sounds like you want kids. So if you're going to have to leave her. It also sounds like if you if you take too long, she's just going to do what she was doing with you with her one house. Anyway, it sounds like if you don't, if you don't get with the program, you're just going to be like getting less texts in one, you know, waiting at the trailhead alone one day. That's good guy. That white line out of your backpack just have it yourself.

Does it feel like she's a little narcissistic on this? And in a totally understandable way, is that she's been with the same guy. Well, except for the two years she's been with you. So prior to this, whatever this two years thing is, she was with the same guy for almost 30 years. So from 20 to 28, so now she's 50 and you're not even 30 yet. But I don't necessarily blame her for kind of looking at it this way. But this whole, like, I'm ruining your life. It's like,

hey, can you fuck off? Like allow me to make decisions on what I prefer or don't prefer. And if you want kids, you know that you can't stay with her. But this, oh, I'm ruining your life. I'm ruining your life. Like somebody's people could be like really dramatic when they haven't actually experienced. They haven't been in the wild for a long time. So I don't know. Yes, I, I think she'll wait. She's talking to him. It seems like she just thinks she's so much smarter than him. And

I don't know if she ever actually looked at you like a real person. You know, I don't get that guy. Someone on her level where she just like, well, now that I'm like away from this guy who is on my lap, I can't, I can't start this thing up with you. You're fucking 22, man. What are we going to

“talk about? I, and like that's why her reasoning, she just throwing a bunch of shit is like,”

well, he'll buy this one. You know what I mean? Like, I'm ruining your life. Maybe you could talk it up to narcissism, but it almost just seems like this one will definitely get it. Like, she's just throwing out a bunch of shit to get you to back off, man. I, I, I, I've got to say again. I actually think it's kind of respectable that she's saying this. Like, she, she, I, she probably picks up that you're weighing more into this than she is, unfortunately. And, you know, it's easy

to have an affair with somebody. But then like, when it's just you, too, it's like, hey, we could actually do this thing. Like, it's not really the same, unfortunately. So I'm not trying to like, be Debbie Downer for our guy. But I kind of respect that she's like, hey, this is kind of where I'm at. Like, you shouldn't do this because I don't think this is what you, I don't think this is what

to ultimately make you happy. Now, you can make your own decisions and pursue me. And that's fine.

We can keep doing our thing. But like, I don't think that you're going to be happy long-term if you stay with me. I think that's actually kind of respectable. And yeah, she's kind of letting you down easy. I think she's just trying to like feed you these things to kind of help you realize that yourself. But she's kind of right. I think. So I, I, I, I, I, I guess I'll zag. I kind of respect the move from her. It's like a nice way of sort of soft breaking up and being like, hey, this isn't

going to be a thing. I didn't break up. I didn't get divorced to be with you. So, all right, I read. But I think it's just for the hiking. If you don't, I mean, it's easy. It's easy for her. Just be like, oh, I'm, I'm Mary, but I'm just going to hook up with this guy. But now, once it's the two of them, that's maybe not what she wants, unfortunately, for our guy here. Yeah, right. No, I think that's well said as well as that now that it's real, like, this isn't just

waiting for the paperwork to become official and all the stuff. It's like, okay, now it's real.

“Now I can start doing all this stuff. I mean, ultimately, you have to kind of decide like,”

how important a kid's to you. If kids are so important, you're going to lose their relationship, which you should, because you shouldn't be spending the rest of your life going, oh, I wish I had kids, but I decided to lock in with a wrong person. You know, so yeah, anyone. All right, we got something else here. This one was so, this one was such a weird email. I don't even think I'm ready to read it. Right now. Because I bet late summer email. No, I like it didn't make any sense, and then I was

reading it as it was two guys. And I was like, all right, you know, like this guy was interested in this other guy. And I was reading it, and I'm going, God, this is so strange. And then I realized it was a woman who wrote the email. So I was like, okay, that matters more. That's fair that you would default to a man's inning. It was actually, could I just a quick aside, Jonathan, who is the main guy at the U.S.GA. He was like, I was talking for a while and he called his wife over,

and he was like, hey, you recognize Sirudi's voice, basically. I'm like, hey, I'm basically, I put this on against your will listening. Listen to this in the car a lot. I was like, yeah,

yeah, no, that's me, sorry. Exactly. That's the play. That's exactly how it always goes.

“Oh, apologies that, that, yeah, we, we have, you have to listen to us against your will, but that's”

how it is, but she was nice, but it was fun. Well, that's good. All right, um,

like a love child of Doug Martin and Pete Maravich. Okay. Ever since freshman year of college,

my close friends and I had had an ongoing bet where each person picks a team from the four major leagues in America. If the team you select wins the championship, then you get a tattoo of their logo. It's been a fun side bet to keep the group chat flowing until two weeks ago, only one guy won this bet with the Florida Panthers in 23 and 24. He got the tattoo later that year. The subject of the female got cute and picked the next claiming they were cursed. He looked like

the smartest guy in the room until he wasn't between each conference and NBA finals. He let some of the group know he's backing out citing these reasons that he does not list on the email. Okay. Well, it doesn't really matter what it doesn't really matter what the reasons were. Just to get this correct, you pick a team that you don't think is going to win years ago.

“Right. And then if they ever do win, you have to get the tattoo together.”

Wait, they don't pick every year. Or they pick it. They pick a new one every year. Isn't that what he said? I feel like you couldn't do it every year because you would just pick like the things that browns and the things. Yeah. Okay. Like you wouldn't pick the next four with four guys. Well, if you picked it once and like 15 years ago by, I think you get more and more dropouts. I mean, if you're saying, we got to lay down the law pretty hard. The only other guy who did it,

got the Florida Panthers tattoo. Like I understand there need to want to push this and be like, no, you're getting the tattoo or we're going to get a mobile tattoo unit, bring it, bring it, bring it to you. I understand that, but I think eventually, he's not going to be the only guy that backs out. I think the older you get, the less explainable, those things are. No, I disagree with again others or whatever. Best in the years like 2060 and the Sacramento Kings when the NBA title

and it's like, hey, your guys are your 70's like, hey, man, like air is blue. Like you said it. And that's awesome. 2090. Awesome. Yeah. But I get why that wouldn't, that would totally fall apart by then. It sounds like this tradition is still young enough that you really want, like,

“you really want to keep it alive. But I think eventually this is going to have to fall away.”

But I totally respect the the other need to like see if you can make this guy get the tattoo. I would be on your side at 32. You know, I don't know at 42. I might be like, all right. Fine. I want to know the guy who doesn't want to get the next tattoo, how into it was we when the other guy got the Florida Panthers tattoo all the way. Right. Right. Credit cards are

like sick until you know, like whenever I watch Jackass and all the stuff, I always felt like

BAM was so willing to like, you could lose a limb and he'd be okay with it. Yes. But then the minute you fucked with BAM, then he was kind of like, dude, that's not cool. Like that's that's my house or like that's the snake thing. Yes. So you used to, I don't know them at all. I don't care. I have certain guys on Jackass. I like better than others. But that always annoyed me about BAM is that he always was the guy that wanted everyone else's like limits to be pushed. But then

once it came back on him, he was, he was like, way more like, all right. Wait a minute. You know, and I would, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I noticed it a lot. I think you're right. And whenever I think of like friend groups with that dynamic, if the next guy was so happy that the Florida Panthers guy was getting the tattoo, look, he's not going to get a tattoo. You can't physically make him get a tattoo. But if he doesn't want to get it, and he was the guy that was so excited

about the, I still don't understand what this game is. It seems really stupid, guys. On top of everything else. You got to pick one team forever. That's crazy. The next. Yeah. The next two. Right. The next like, yep. There's four guys and the next got picked. That seems insane. I mean, right. Like, wouldn't you pick, I'm trying to think like, when you pick the wizards, I'm sure they got picked. But there's like, I could, I could think of four teams. I picked before I

“pick the next. And you got four majors for late. Yeah. That's what I don't understand either.”

Is that is, is each guy picking one team of the four major sports? Wasn't a very good email. Yeah. He didn't even, he didn't even give us the reasons why the next guy was opting out. So I, I would want to follow up though. I'd want to, I'd want to know more about this. So maybe we could do this one's day. Yeah. Maybe one's day. We'll have some more clarity. All right. They'll do it for us. Thank you to everybody on the show, Tom Kevin

Kyle and Serruti. We'll be back Wednesday. We've got Keegan Bradley. Yep. Who we had last year. That's right. Follow him around. He came on last year. He wanted Connecticut. And we got Jay

Billis wrapping up the first round of the NBA draft. So I can't wait to talk draft. So all that'll

be coming in the week. I think we get Danny McBride coming on the show too as well this week. So again, yeah, look out Kyle, cut chemist. And if the flight's can work out,

before he gets on. Yeah. I might do that. I just could do those bloopers all day long. What are you sitting there? It's like, and if the flight's can work out, Daniel Day Lewis. All right. That'll do for the show. Ryan's going to show us our sports.