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but I remember where I was in 1999. It should be that hard. It was 23 years old. Negril, D.J. Margaritaville. Playing scrubs 1,000 times a day and I had the whole place to myself. St. John's Ohio State sat down, chicken salad. Yep, a huge salad, but chicken all over it. Although not a lot of mass back then. I didn't like how I felt when I took my shirt off and

“I've never forgotten that feeling. Rest of my life. I was like, well, this is good. Life is good.”

It was D.J. in a lot, but I was like, life is pretty good right now. Let's go Johnny's. And then 200, some kids from Ohio State showed up on shuttles from Mobile and took over the entire place and it was absolutely hell. And I want to blow my brains out when I miss the free throws at the end. But not yesterday. I felt good. I got up to the couch. I yelled, yeah, twice real loud. One of us felt good to be back. St. John's up 54 40 and you're like this feels like 30 points in this kind of

game. But if you're a St. John's fan, you know you have to just buckle up, strap yourself in and go. They're probably not going to score for like eight minutes. And it's going to be brutal. And 54 40 turns into 65, 65. There's a fouling strategy there by Bill Self to use up all the fouls to get closer to the bonus, but actually fouling delaying any momentum for St. John's offensively. That's why we have the first foul in the last two minutes rule in the NBA because back in the

day when teams didn't have team fouls in the quarters and they would go hack a shack. It would be like, all right, this is pointless to watch. Try to get into the bonus to then have him take free throws.

“The list just do first in the last two minutes. That's why they changed that rule. I do wonder if 90s”

NBA fans or protective 90s NBA people watch that game against St. John's against Kansas, so they watch that and they go, now we're talking. This is the good stuff. St. John's can't shoot, but somehow they're making threes even though they didn't make any yesterday. Well,

time, patino goes, well, they don't think we can make them. And so far, we're proved them right.

“Thank God for Bryce Hopkins because he hit six, which I think is double his career high.”

It was kind of the difference of just balancing out anything that was happening outside because nothing was going to happen inside because one, you know, Kansas is really good defensively as well. And Zubey at just four, there's like five guys in basketball now that can throw an entry pass. And even with Bitinga being in foul trouble, I just didn't seem like St. John's wanted to go to Zubey as much as I think that they probably should have. But I thought it was interesting at least

watching the game. I was like, I wonder if Bitinga just tells like some of the guys like, hey, enough threes. And it was actually the opposite because in the post game, he said, I told him you got to just keep shooting up. You got to keep shooting up, you got to keep, you got to find a way to make a couple of these things and hang on. And so you have the foul strategy at the end, which everybody's been crushing so far. But I would just at least add this. If you're saying that he should have

saved one extra foul the foul the next time. Asking college kids to foul like say,

“however, the clock runs down to like two or three seconds when somebody's probably getting right”

another shot. And instead of a really tough shot to make, maybe you're failing them and sending the free throw line, I don't know that it's as clear as everybody's making out to be the like self-absolutely screwed up by failing consistently, ruining momentum, taking time off the clock, using up all these fouls. But then didn't have another one with four seconds to go. We're darling who has zero points, the entire game ends up hitting the game ring lay up, which looking

at that angle still, it's amazing that he got that thing off. So the Johnny's move on, Iowa knocks off

on number one seed against Florida. I had so many great things to say about Thomas out for Florida. I was going to, I might have done an hour on him. He saved Florida's ass in this game. His aggressiveness the way he just does not relent at all. I love him. I'll talk more about him. We get closer to the draft because the gators are eliminated. And if you look at how Florida got back into this game, it was how offensively it was incredible pressure. I felt like Iowa

probably had some easier looks offensively once they got through this full court and three court court stuff like flooring was throwing all sorts of stuff at Iowa. And Iowa was still totally fine breaking the pressure and then resetting and running more clock. And this game was about pace. When you looked at where Iowa was on the slowest side of things in college troops and floored on the fastest side, they held Florida to a season low 61 possessions. And it's still almost didn't work.

Florida misses one of the two free throws of up 72 70, starts breaks. The press looks like defensively one of the Florida players took a bad angle or a gamble. You let starts get behind you. Now he has full momentum and now the defender on full garris in the corner has to come up to meet starts because it's still it's only a two point game. And starts makes the play.

“Full garris gets his toes behind the line and hits the three and how about this kid's story?”

He hadn't seen us and he's from Spain. He lost his father when he was nine. And he hadn't seen his mother since August. And she makes it to the game. It chees over in that corner. And his Iowa is celebrating for the game winner. He runs over to his mother. Again, hadn't seen her since August. Put in the credible story. Iowa, great people and a great weekend for the state American needs farmers.

That means only one defending champ since 2007. His advance passed the sweet 16. His Florida is eliminated. Obviously, you've come winning back to back 23 and 24. The outlier there. Just a little note on the whole defending champ thing. Because anyone that wins seems to be in this hurry to be like, hey, we need to turn the page. And I understand the mental part of that, right? Like, you don't want your young group,

your kids coming into the next season thinking, hey, we're owed this, right? Like, hey, we're the shit. But is there something to be said of maybe the motivation of just talking yourself into once you're in the tournament and you are the number one seed in your region that you are defending something? Because I see a lot of guys talking about this all the time. And it's just look, it's nearly impossible to repeat. But maybe a psychological switch on the whole thing,

where you decide if you're the next defending champ, just embrace it and say, yeah, we're the defending champs. And everybody needs to take us out for them to have success. Because this whole, it's new and we haven't done anything. Well, again, anyone's going to get eliminated. So you can come up with a different story line of results that you want to. Yukon, UCLA, Terus Reed, 31 and 27 in the first practice firm. And that's right, 31 and 27.

He had four points in the first half, only on free throws. Terrific job. You knew UCLA was going to be up for the challenge defensively. If someone had told me that Yukon's going to have to win a tournament game without Caribbean doing everything on offense for them. And he's a terrific player. We know his resume. But he's a complimentary offensive player for the most part. And he goes

for 27. He's doing everything. Because you never quite know what you're going to get from Yukon

Going back to the St. John's game in the Biggie's tournament final. We're at looked a little

overwhelming for him firm. And he went, oh, of eight from three. So I don't know that he's overwhelmed by firm. He just wasn't hitting his shots. And he hits a huge shot for Yukon. Hurley goes nuts. He keeps firing away. So he may have woken up, which balances out Yukon's offense quite a bit. If you have Reed, if you have Mullins and you have obviously Caribbean. But that's at least something there for Yukon with all their guards and how much they're going to get after you defensively.

“Can I interest you in a little McCronon? So Caribbean blocks Perry, I believe, up top at the rim.”

I thought the block was fine. Maybe it was a little physical. Maybe there were some body stuff. It was already kind of going downhill for UCLA at that point. And they're down nine.

UCLA doesn't get the call. The official that's on the baseline is now running a pass to UCLA

sideline. And Cronon goes with the most condescending clap right towards the official. Yukon crosses half forward. They're getting ready just about. There was actually kind of like a choppy little play there that maybe could have been a travel and Yukon. And the official turns right around and gives Cronon the technical. So that means Caribbean hits the two free throws. They get possession. They score a layup and now they're down 13. So a couple things on this.

I could see the announcers have so many things going on. It's hard to keep track of it. So we go to commercial because of course you went to commercial. The NFL's like, God, there's a lot of commercials in this. You come back and they used I thought a bad replay that was behind the bench because Cronon immediately is like, I didn't even say anything. It's like, well, yeah, but you know what you did. You didn't get a call and

you acted like an asshole because you do that all the time. And you know what you were doing. And things like I didn't even say anything. And because they used the replay that they did, Starator's kind of like, well, if you didn't really say anything. And then, you know, the even lapis who was terrific is kind of like, you know, that's a lot. I would have been tech, you know,

I wouldn't get a million technicals if that was a kind of thing. It's like, no, no, no, you've got

to see the other replay. You've got to see the entire play, the entire time. And look, it was going downhill for UCLA. They were having really a hard time getting anything going offensively. The pressure by the guards, you con, which I can't wait for the Michigan State game. By the way, in that specific matchup with fears against these guards for you con. But it felt like the life came out of UCLA a little bit there. And I don't currently do him any favors whatsoever.

And we've seen this from him before. We saw it in the Arizona game when there were a big two years ago in Arizona, came back. I thought the situation that he had with Jamerson when he threw him out of the Michigan State game. And he was totally wrong about it. Then got into the reporters. I've just telling you like, I know he's won and it seems like players loved to play for him. I think he's won almost 70% of his games. So, you know, that's really all

we care about. But as a non-parent, maybe nobody gives a ship. But it's just like, I don't want you playing for him. I'm actually impressed how he continues to get players knowing what you're signing up for. Because it is him against the world. And I'm not telling you like Hurley's a sweetheart. But you almost like, when you watch a crone in Hurley game, you don't even notice Hurley as much. And I guess I just don't understand it. Like you walk out into the court. It's like,

it's everything you're doing focused on your team winning. Or do you have these moments where you cannot help yourself? And you make it about you against all the things that are going against

“you when again, when things are going south, you need to kind of be there for your team to try to”

get them out of this funk. And it was still plenty of time left in this game. And again, I'm not saying it's the only reason they lost. It's far from it. But just add it to the list of stuff with him that I can't stand watching. Let's see what else. Michigan Arizona look much better than Duke to me. I have some thoughts on the draft picks. I don't think I'm going to share them all today. That could be something I do going into the weekend. But just a simple part of it. Like if you're

sitting there and you're in the front office, where an NBA team and you're, well, how are the rest of this tournament goes? And you're talking about all these different players. And one guy on the staff, I don't care if it's your video guy. Maybe chair. And it looks at, you know, and if somebody said, hey, is it crazy to think that a cuff Arkansas is the best player of the draft past in five years? I don't think anybody else in the room should tell that person that he's crazy. And whether

“it's Peterson's first three against St. John's where you're like, oh, yeah, okay, that's why”

this guy's the number one pick. But I wouldn't say Peterson had like, it was a very coi game from Peterson. And I'm, I'm not even talking about like, is he, you're, is he going to play tonight?

Probably, so like, can you, can you get cooking here a little bit? He had rubin' prey in a switch.

And he swung it. And I was like, all right. But at the same time, I went back and looked at the clip. It looked like three guys were kind of on him. So maybe that was a very smart, like, Peterson thing of like, and against OKC, where it's like, what do you want to do? Just driving to three people here and say, cool, I'm the number one pick. So maybe there's an advanced thing of him or maybe people should have tried to get away from him and bring some of the defensive

help way or maybe St. John's was going to do any of that stuff. I thought Peterson was fine. I don't think it was special. It's funny to see everybody watch Cameron Booser now for the first time and be like, wait a minute, what the hell's going on with this guy? I don't know the

Cameron Booser was necessarily amazing. And the second half against TCU after doing nothing the first

half, I think TCU was the entire team was in foul trouble. They ran a foul trouble graphic. The weren't even players from Duke on it. It was all TCU players. So eventually, when you're in entire front lines, worried about the next foul, fouling them out, they're not going to play Booser the same way. And it's going to be a little bit easier for him. But I would say this in defense of Booser. The Michigan game exists. I watched it. I'm sure you watched it against that

“front line. So that's why we talk about them. To bounce up the good and the bad, it looks great”

and the bad looks really bad. And then you have Fleming's Houston who's in the mix cave with Wilson's who's hurt is all I'm saying is that the acuff thing and by the way, Derek Rose's run, as I used the comparisons here with Rose, Cal, and Memphis and now acuff at Arkansas with him, the Derek Rose run to the number one pick was happening around this time. It was beastly all year long. And Rose, it was kind of like undeniable as it kept going and going and going and going.

You're like no one can no one can stay in front of this guy. Like this is special. We talk about guys breaking down defenders and getting the hoop and finishing a small players. There's nothing you can do with Derek Rose. And acuff is like, I don't know that he's as quick as Rose, but that's not a knock. It's just as effective and with his size and a little bit more to him. I really think that this is a little bit more. I don't want to say it's wide open because teams are pretty clear on

Peterson still being the guy. They NBA teams that I talked to were way less concerned about the

“Peterson stuff than I think the media once we started catching on to the story and talking about it”

all the time, which I think we're totally fair criticisms. But I just don't think a suggestion for acuff is necessarily the wrong thing here. All right. So I guess I did do a little bit more draft than I thought I was going to do. I was state. How about that team? I wish Jefferson were healthy. I might get real weird and pick them to be in the final four. I had them in the elite eight because I fell in love with them. I fall in love with Iowa State once every 13 years. I just realized this.

You go back to 2000, Pfizer, Michael Nurse, Tinsley, and then in 2014, Nian Gang. Can I interest you in a little Melvin edge and then you've got Deandre Kane, King Asia, nobody's equal. That was actually big daddy Kane. I think Deandre Kane was like 31 when he played for Iowa State that year. So here we are again in 26. I love this team. I love Iowa State. I would be huge Iowa guy today on a Monday, which I know is, you know, hot guys are like,

wait, you were so nice to us. And now you're talking about lanes. I thought what I say.

“That's what they say. Let's see, Purdue. If they're rolling with flex your lawyer and”

coffin ran at this point, they're completely different team. We saw in the big 10 championship game. Lawyers 43% from three, three straight years. He's ridiculous. And then you've got

brainspinth of the controls all time as this leader. Something I did notice in their second round

win. He's got but dazzled Nike's but dazzled. I'll say this about NFL evaluations. I want my corners wearing chains. I want my wide receivers wearing chains. You could say you don't want your guard wearing a chain. But if that guard is wearing a chain that tells me something about him, probably doesn't make a ton of senses. You get ripped off probably every single game. I don't even know that it makes a ton of sense for the guys outside of you wearing them all the time. But do you want

Braiden Smith that you want your point guard wearing but dazzled? I don't know if there were Kobe's or not. I think yes. I think yes. He's on the draft boards. Probably is an early second round pick. I do wonder if a team's going to draft him just to teach everybody else like a team's camp to be like, hey, we're doing the Braiden Smith entry pass camp. We're going to throw entry passes for three straight days. And then you're going to learn how to do it. It takes a little bit more than that.

But I think I like it. And obviously like everybody else watching Purdue these last couple of weeks. How could you not love this team? I'm going to end here. Nebraska, Vanity. Going back a couple of days. Terrific game. And I'm not new. If it were February, I probably wouldn't give Nebraska any love with five white guys because it'd be the wrong month to do it. But it's March. I don't know if

I don't know 10 years, something like that. So you've got the game winner, no time out by Hordeberg,

“uh, Fred Hoyberg. I think it's how you pronounce it. Here's what I'm going to start tracking. Do”

the X players that are now head coaches, do they not call timeouts because they know it's better

because it's chaos on the core and everybody's kind of running to the ball. And there's always

bad help. Look, we see in the NBA as well. But no timeout and maximizing that chaos is that something that the non-player coaches won't do, where because they didn't play and they're making up for all their insecurities as not being as good as a player to get to play anywhere of stuff note. Do those guys call timeouts because it's like, yes, here's what I'm going to do. And the players who are far more secure in their basketball world or their life and what they've accomplished

are they like, man, it's going to run it out there and see what happens and a game winner for Nebraska. On the five white guys, no, I've got to imagine there was a little kid watching that game somewhere.

“And, you know, maybe you went to a summer camp to play hoops last summer and maybe didn't go”

great. You know, maybe his dad picked him up a camp. His dad's maybe south of the five 10

equator and his mom's a Spitfire, but she was a gymnast and, you know, there's a maximum height on on those moms. And maybe, you know, they talked about it, talked about what made more sense and maybe Christmas, he got a lacrosstick for Christmas. I'd like to think that little white kid somewhere after that Nebraska game and he watched that game, he threw that lacrosstick away and went outside in the driveway and started getting some shots up. All right, before we dive

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the Clippers coverage now for a bunch of years. It's good to see you. I was thinking about you as I was watching other games. I'm like, "Man, for Ohio State King, this is a heavy dose of Michigan

for you." No, it is. The ironic part, the first one, thanks for having me. The ironic part is

Michigan State in particular time, Mizzles, probably my favorite coach that I've covered, you know, since I started back in the victim, there were 2007. They've kind of opened up their doors to me to be able to get a really great insight into why the program has been so successful over the years and the lot has to do with the culture that time is, oh, has kind of placed together. And so for me, a Michigan thing is great because, look, I grew up 45 minutes an hour,

outside of Detroit, Pennsylvania. I spent a lot of my formative years playing basketball, honey, my skills in Detroit. A lot of Michigan players, former, are great friends of mine from Glen Rice, Terri Mills, to Sean Higgins, to Fab5, Mark Hughes, all of the day, Lynn, all of them. So it's really very more of a football thing than it is basketball. And plus, when I was in school, our rivals were in the end. It was at Michigan. But, you know, some people got a burned

a bootman when they go across the state line sometimes, man. You know, they don't want to buy gas, in Michigan, or Ohio, they're a way to get to, I'm not, I'm not, that's too draining for me, man.

a dusty, may it plan? I mean, you can't help a group for them, man. Yeah, they're both incredible teams, whether it's the history with his own,

that culture thing is something I'm always trying to understand. And then you just have Michigan,

“where I'll, I'll ask you this way, because I think it's exciting. I can't wait to talk”

Arkansas or Arizona, but if we just looked at, like, that front line for Michigan, you know, Lenin morgue, Mara, the transfer was in New York. But there's more as Johnson and so I'm like, yeah, I'm like, he can kind of do a lot of different things. Would you rather have their front line or Arkansas's back court? Oh, but you went, you went basketball with your back court. You solidify games with your front court, but you win it by your back court.

God, that's a, that's a, that's a tough one. I'm, I'm going with, I'm going with the front

court of Michigan. And the reason why is because it's the versatility within that front court,

because you can bring more out. You can bring Lindenburg out. You can place Mara's Johnson out, and he can make plays facilitate, or you can go big and just power to ball inside, especially when you're not shooting the ball well. Those three complement what they're back court, maybe some time lack in shooting, but which is rare, because, like we saw, you know, the other night is when they get it going, get the St. Louis, which, you know, they knew the playbook in

and out because it does you may and Josh Ford say they're like Kendra Spear, so to speak. They know each other, they're great friends, but when that front court starts to dominate and just body punch, body blows, body blows, it's just hard to compete with that. That's the right answer.

“I think the other one is, is dynamic as this Arkansas back court is, we're talking about tough”

freshmen, you know, and Lindenburg can bring the ball up, which is just a ridiculous match of part of it. You know, I spend so much time on the draft and so I'll watch college basketball, probably too often, almost an additional level of like, hey, look at Mara dominating as this kind of traditional post guy, but then they'll bring him up as they start their offense, and then he can pass behind him, depending on the different stuff that they're doing. And, you know, sure, there's

yolkage, but I don't want to compare anyone to him. Do you think the NBA is either designed to prevent that from being such an advantage, or the NBA has just moved into direction where maybe they're ignoring somebody like a Mara, like an old school, hey, we can run offense through the high post, and maybe NBA teams will do it every now and then on some sort of entry, and then there's sort of

“like a double action off of the same thing. But I'll watch Michigan play and go, it is such a college”

offense, but yet these, we're talking about three guys that are NBA players. Well, it's two different thoughts for thought prices. Think about it like this. Colleges of safe haven, if you're a big man to play, conventional post up basketball. You can still do that. The women's game also demands game. You can be a post up player, conventionally, as equity, who kind of dominated inside. But the beauty about Michigan is this, is that Mara, despite being seven plus feet,

yes, he'll get on the post, but that's not where dusty may generally use his him, unless he has the mismatch and they want to get a tough bucket. They'll put Mara in the post. Generally, Mara is Nick, because that provides more space for the back court for Elia Cadau, Nimari Burnett and those guys really have more space to operate. But if you look at the NBA, it's more you bring in centers out, you're allowing the guards to facilitate, and if you have a

yoke, if you have an MBE, if you have a center that when we had a beach of Zuba, he posted up, but a lot of times he was in that picking role position, up top in that short row to make plays. So the NBA is adopted to having the centers up, elbow, free throw line extended in order to have more space for those driving lanes for their, you know, guards and forwards. Yeah, I guess I, I look at like some non-shooting bigs, like it's hard to live now in the league,

because you'll go like, hey, we love the defense, we love the brim protection, we love the rebounding,

like, as soon as a perfect example of this stuff. But then there's always kind of this moment

that you'll have, it's like, yeah, but I'd love if I had a stretch five. Well, but you know, holy, holy, but that's Jalen Durham. Now, he's starting to shoot the ball better, but he, I'm going to lower my shoulder, I'll get to my spot, I'll get the hard baskets when we need it, offensive rebounds. They're not stretching the floor, but within their system, it makes perfect sense to what they're doing. Shengun is a total different story, it's Houston.

organization is a little bit different. Every organization, as you know, Ryan,

“not blessed to have a single one or a yoke is deck in really facilitate, that can really shoot it,”

that can really be a threat. So it's, you've got to kind of pick you up.

Who do we have? Who are we? What is our first and now? And how do we evolve our offense around

it to make it make sense? On the Michigan State, you can match up, because you had Michigan State, and I'm going to, you know, how ever much of the rest of you got to watch a travel and all the assignments, we'll get to watch it. Yeah, I imagine. I just didn't want to put it in a tough spot, but with Michigan State, like fears, there's very short list of point cards that are just in complete command of the game. And I thought he was brilliant against Louisville, and then the first

thing I thought of in that matchup of Yucan is like, I just can't fathom that Yucan will let him get into his stuff and control it the way he did against Louisville. And if fears was, was incredible

in that game with the passing, you know, there's always going to be probably a couple shots there,

but you kind of kind of take that with the entire package that's fears. How would you see him preparing for like what Yucan is going to try to throw it him defensively? Nothing different, because the thing about fears at Michigan State is, and it's going to be, I mean, a fabulous matchup. And I'm just looking here as I go down the injury, Benbury, who came off of injury profoundly play last night, those two. Danny, Danny Hurley is going to figure out a way to try to negate what

fears does, but they still have to play their defensive sets, which they're not going to press up a lot. Okay, they may apply some half-core pressure just to lead some time off the clock, but a pressing situation or a trapping situation, depending on how it is, is something that Dan Hurley hasn't done yet. Now, they all hedge a little bit more of their show. They don't want fears to kind of turn the corner, but they're going to force him to be a jumpshoe. Okay,

that's the thing when you have Jeremy Fears is that you want to keep him out of the paint and force him to take jump shot. If there's a ability to pull up on a 15-foot jump shot, if he hits that on consistency, then it's going to be a long night, because what you're going to do is be able to now offset different things that he does, especially passing the ball. So I don't see, I see, I see it from this perspective, Ryan, with Dan, and covering Dan all year,

I'm looking at different point yards that he played against, is that it eliminate fears from turning the corner, breaking down the difference, getting two feet in the paint, and now forcing defensive rotations, now those sprayouts are now dead. So that point of attack defense initially

and that picture and roll of defense, it's going to be very critical for you, Dan.

I, you know, when the breaking's came out, it was like, do some number one overall team, and I understand what the resume and the head-to-head later in the season against Michigan neutral court, you know, we all watch that game and it, but man, I'm going to tell you,

“watching the big 12 championship, I just went, how can anyone think any team is better than Arizona?”

That's again, my opinion, the depth, the versatility, all the different things they can throw at you. Where would you see Michigan in comparison to, obviously with Florida gone here, the other two number one seats? I love Michigan, I love the versatility. I've covered them a lot this year. Of course, we had them in the region in Buffalo, so the two games that they played to get to the sweet 16 were there. So it's one of those things where I love Arizona and their

versatility in Michigan and Arizona are very similar from that perspective, because you have size across the board, you have an excellent back court. I think Ella Kido, from a leadership perspective, maybe a little bit, is ahead of Murray's just because he's played longer. He's been in the situation so you can kind of count on that when Ella Kido was focused in there. I would give

“that advantage, not from a physical perspective, because I think Murray's with his size is probably”

a better player at this point, but with regards to knowing how to run a team in a situation and a one-game scenario, Ella Kido has been there. And I'll lean into that a little bit more in a matchup if I had to put those two together because of that. But Michigan is right there. You tell me, I know they took a loss to do. Michigan is right there, right there. And if that's that separation between the three, this is what I'm saying.

Yeah, I totally get that. I guess my thing with Arizona would be, you know, the Murray's versus Kido experience thing, I can't win that, right? But I think you said it and I would agree

impressive for this Arizona team with all these other options, especially with Jayden Bradley,

being a big 12-player of the year, is that they close the gate, they wanted Murray's to have the ball in his hands to close out Utah State. So when I see something like that with a young

“player, I'm like, man, that tells you something. But I think Bradley offers Arizona another point of”

attack on the ball option. If like, hey, we want to give him a look now. We're going to let him initiate where I think unfortunately because of Michigan in the injuries, it's, you know, we look we're comparing something that would have to happen much further down the road. But I swear every time Arizona brings somebody in, I'm like, okay, this guy is making a positive impact now, too, and it feels like it's eight guys. Now, it is. Jayden Bradley is one, two, where he all sits,

what Murray's can do, co-op, because he's able to go get it when you need it. And that acts factor in a one-game scenario is instrumental to moving on. And we've seen it time and time again in college basketball around you've been around this enough to know, backwards when you games and they lose your game, okay. And to have the offset between the two, where either one can go get it, it is a benefit to Tommy Lloyd there in Arizona, because like

you said, you wanted to get the ball here, but this option over here who happens to be the player to hear the conference is pretty damn good, and it can go get it. Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, when you sit here drawing stuff up, it's drape, but then when you're putting the scouting report together, you're like, okay, if we trap birds here, and the ball gets over to Bradley, now he

has to three on two on this side and now on the second side, he can go to work. Now, we don't have

enough players, so it's a, it's a laundry for opposing teams when you have a player like Bradley, who can just go get it as well. And I said, like, Malita, I'm as there in Arkansas with,

“you know, there's ACRA. Yeah, perfect transition, because that's what I wanted to ask you about,”

because I mean, Malita can go, and it's just, hey, sorry, man, the other guy's going to be maybe a top five pick and hiccup, and it was, as you see, player of the year, has been on an absolute tear with these 30 point games, but Malita is like, when he gets his chance, and he can make something out of absolutely nothing and his size and his athleticism. So, you know, wherever everyone of us has been excited about this drape class for a long time, but it's certainly kind of had

its ups and downs, whether it's what you think at AJ, what you think of the Peterson storyline, and just the, the steadiness of Booser, but then you're like, if you're taking him number one, does your fan base understand that like he might not exactly be like our go-to offensive guy for the next 10 years, which, you know, it's part of it, too. And there's a bunch of other names here, but when you watch ACRAF, and I said this at the top, I'm not saying he's the best player in draft,

but I would think when front offices are talking about this class, and maybe it's teams, I don't even have to worry about picking up there, but I don't know that it's a wild scenario, say hey, what if in five years he ends up being the guy, do you think that that's a crazy statement based on what you've seen from him? No, because he's built for the mentality and how he played, the beautiful part about how he plays is that he's putting up numbers without turning a ball over.

“So his usage rate is very high, but yet his mistakes are minimalized, and that's what you”

have to look at from a young player who's running his program in his team and still making the right plays. Okay, yeah, sometimes a shot, like he struggled at the beginning of the game,

and then finally got it going. Okay, that's something sometimes you can't control how many times

it goes through the net, but my decision making, where and when and who I get the ball to, in certain situations, that to me tells you about the IQ and knowledge of the game. Okay, that allows him to be able to compete and impact the game without scoring the basketball. And at the next level, nobody thought Jaylon Brunton would be doing what he's doing. Okay, defensively, we don't know if he can guard in space. Offensively, he's not as athletic. His foot

pea, his foot speed, as a lot slower. Blah, blah, blah, the young man knows how to play, and he's a winner. And then you put him in a situation, in the NBA, we see now he's been able to prosper. All these things, talking about a couple of the defense with everybody comes to the NBA with a flaw in their game. Okay, Luca has been in the league 18,000 years and still has a defensive flaw. Okay, but what he gives you is a chance to win basketball games with his IQ and decision

making the ability to put the ball in the basket. Now again, Luca 686, no, get me wrong. But that's my point about Acca, is that his ability to control a game is what you look for when you're in the NBA. Totally on the same page with that. Like, I don't think it's a 50, 50 split, hey, defensive half the game. No, when you're this dynamic, and on top, everything else too,

want to ever compare anyone to, right, the way he switches hands is he's finishing through traffic.

Like, that's just a spe, no one's ever going to be chai read to me. I don't even think Iverson was as good at the rim finishing as even chai re was because chai read did it longer. But there are some stuff with him. And you know, look, defensively, I remember, you know, look, I did a bunch of draft shows around the SPN and then do you have some guard and we go, how is he going to stay in front of Russell Westbrook? And I'd be like, how many guys stay in front

of Russell Westbrook? Like, one of my friends. Let me give you something. It's a player. They got, let me see, back to back MVPs, 2006, 2007. I played with him and he wasn't the best defender. Oh, it's the evening. Oh, okay. So, stop, stop with all of it. Do you give the effort, is my point? Jayden Brunchon is not the best defensive player, but he's going to fight over strength. He's going to try to give you an effort. He's just not going to be, you know, on orange cone out there.

“And I think there's a cup is the same with it. You know, he gets in a situation. He's going to”

give the effort because he understands that that hurts his team if he does it. Okay? He's 18 years old. So, we're going to judge based on that and what he is today, but to be able to where he can be and what situation he is. I think it's kind of unfair. You know, to he then say, he won't be a better defender player. I think he will be. I really do, just just because of his makeup.

Yeah, I've always felt like defense is a lot like relationships. If you just understand and you care,

there's, I mean, we're not, we're not asking him to be marked as smart. Okay? Right. That's now when, when New York got her mental anthem, what did they get him for? They got to put the ball in the best. And everybody knew that. So, you're sitting and talking about ways that make him plays or just defect. That's not why we got them. That's, that, that would be the purpose. So, when you draft the player like that, like A cup, you know it's some

shortcomings over here, but this pile makes up for that shortcoming.

“Yeah. And, and having said all that about what his futures, I think Arizona's going to put them,”

they're going to hunt him on multiple sessions. Yeah. Right. Because he, I think he can,

I don't know if he's upright too much. I mean, I was really paying attention to his last

game with him defensively. And I think there was communication issues through everything. Look, they're not a good defensive team on top of everything else. And there's problems behind him. But yeah, I wouldn't worry about it now on the draft prospect. I'd worry about it Thursday night. Because I'm what you're going to, yeah, they're going to be like, I'll go honey, all day long. Wherever he's at, put him in the picture roll and force him to have to guard. Now,

as a player, I would take that personal. Okay. And say, okay, I may not be the best, but then I'm going to give you my best effort. I'm fighting over the stream. If I get a switch, it's a big man on me. I'm going to make sure to root him out, meet him early, so he doesn't get deep post position. That's my mentality. If I'm thinking like that, if you're going to go at me, I'm going to make it extremely difficult for you to kind of win those battles over and over and over again.

Well, you think that you can just continue to kind of milk that kind of so to speak.

“You're going to have Texas Purdue as well. I think anybody that loves basketball loves when”

Purdue is rolling because it's just brilliant. It's balanced. It's, I mean, I'd be ever, have you been to a game at Mackie? No, unfortunately not. Let me tell you something that. It's a lot of basketball venues around the country that, you know, Kansas do, but it's something about Mackie Arena when Purdue is rolling because it's built for basketball and you can just feel it. It's no sweets. You know what I mean? And it's just when they play and you got an

electric crowd with a team that just is working like Matt Painter knows how to kind of implement a system. It's nothing like it, right? And you can tell how much they appreciate it and you can tell it's almost what you talk about the culture thing with Michigan State. It's like hey, you come to Purdue. You're just expected to play the right way and not saying that it guarantees success. But this isn't, this is quite the run that they've been on here. And I know you've had them.

So I just wonder in your prep for them, it's, you know, again, somebody who played, like can you explain to us like why it's, it's one, it's a talent standpoint. They've won 29 games, okay? There are two things. So this is necessarily a surprise. But what is it about their execution and the guys that they go after that seems to kind of give them advantage where they just don't feel like they're going to beat themselves? Yeah, it's interesting because Matt Painter was in school when I was in school.

So we played against you. He's a year under me, okay? So the way Matt had to play is the way he

things all the time. Make the extra paths. Get on the floor defensively. We've made not be the

most athletic team every year, but from a intelligent perspective, following the scout and report,

“okay? Understanding plays that are being run defensively offensively. That's how he recruits.”

Now every once in a while, you get a J and I be just athletic and not a control and you kind of morph into what he can do. A J and K to get to Glen Robis and you're like, okay, I'm used to doing this, but with this guy, he's a little bit different. You get a Zach Edy, you know, you tend to focus and change some things. But the core group of what you get would have produced is what reflects Indiana, blue collar, and the work is extremely hard. They all great team mate, but we're going to play

a certain way. Now they play with more pace now to a brave, brave Smith, you know, a flexor lawyer, but they still just kind of methodically kind of picture apart. Yeah, and I love that Brandon was a guy that wasn't getting power conference offers until the very end, and Purdue was on him early, so kind of your paint painter point. It's like he sees something. He's like, hey, and he was even, I mean, not only just electro make half of his threes, but

painter at one point this year was like, you know, he's actually just graded him down at the ball too. And you know, it's like these little things. It's a little weird. How important is that when these two problems, what was the game last night? Kansas. Kansas is a ball. That couldn't, could not get the ball in. So those simple things right there, and you know this right, too, because at this time of year, all the possessions matter. If you're in a regular season,

possession that were lost or empty, you can make up for it. Right now in the tournament, those empty possessions that you don't get shot at the rim, they come back to hunt you. Kansas breaks, and they cut those turnovers down by six. Okay. That's different. That's a different, different ball game. So to your point, I know I can trust also taking a ball out because he'll make the right playing get it in. If not, he's calling the

time out. And then we reset and try to get it back in. Those little things are so important, but it goes back to who are you recruiting? What is my roster construction? Okay. And that goes back to scouting, but also understanding mentality of these young men that you bring in.

“How do you expect the cambooser Zubi edge of format you up to go?”

This is the difference with Zubi. And I got a chance to cover St. John throughout the course of the year. And I had to do a game when they played at Michigan State. Right. If you don't have that boost of energy all game to deal with Zubi's energy, forget about it. Because it's not once. It's not twice. It's three times that he's going after everything. And the most difficult part is why they're such an outstanding offensive

rebounding team because they don't stand still. Part of typical bigs, you can go put a body on

and then block him out, put him out. Zubi is always moving, Dylan Mitchell is always moving. You see

them saying so now in order to get that chat, you got to be moving. Your head has to be on a swivel. Cambooser's energy level and focus in awareness is going to have to be at the highest that he's been at all year when dealing with Zubi. Because I, I'm St. John's fan. Okay. So this is not new to me to see them blow the lead yesterday when you just go, they're going to have

“these seven minutes where they can't score. And that's the only way they can survive. And they're”

likely going to be down to Duke. And it's going to go, all right, when you hit that stretch, when you can't score, are you defending them enough? And you know, I don't know that Duke's blown anybody away here. I kind of like TCU in that matchup a little bit to keep it competitive, but the foul trouble thing was to disaster. And you know, Evans carried him a bit there offensively sark and kind of spaced the floor a little bit, but they're, they're asking a lot of boozer. So I'm not saying

look, this is not an easy, easy opponent for St. John's, but this isn't some wild offense that is going to be difficult to contain. So I, I don't think it'll be as ugly as the Kansas game, but I expect this game to have some real ugly stretches. Well, two, two things here we're talking

about. One, the ability for St. John's hit consistent jump shot. That's been, that's always been

the key, they're very similar to the Houston Cobra, okay? Houston is, remember two or three years ago, it was just throw it up. We're going to get the offense to rebound. We're going to outwork you and just just bury you down defensively, okay? And if we make jump shots, that's just going to be, that's just going to elevate us anymore. Even more. We're saying John's,

stress off the offense, you kind of be perfect to try to get something inside against a big doop thing too as well, okay? So can they make enough jump shots to keep the game competitive where they need to be, which allows Zuby Dylan Mitchell and those guys to have an effect on the interior.

That's always been the case for me with St. John. And, yeah, let's put this factor this in.

It's a guy on that side line who is just a master. And that's Rick Bettino, underneath out of bounds play, side out of bounds plays, defensively, you notice defensively, they pressure the whole game. But it wasn't like, it's a one, two, two press, it's a two, two, one press. It's just, I'm in your jersey all the time. I'm irritating. And what that does, right? It is where's you down over time. Now, just physically, but mentally. It sucks. It sucks when you're like, I'm never going to have

a free chance to bring the ball up the entire day and they're going to rotate all these different guys. And again, it's not like some full-core press. It's just, it's pressure. And then you're just sitting there and you're going like, if your Kansas, you've got to come up with something a little different here. Like, bring, you know, it's pretty simple sometimes. It's like just bring somebody else up, bring another guy up. But maybe they just don't feel like they have the

depth of ball handler. But you would think there's at least three guys out there at the same time the Kansas would like. And then it just then starts getting your head. And I mean, do fans don't need any reminder of what an in-bound issue costs them going back to last year when they just,

“they couldn't get the ball in. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what Coach Bettino does is that it's those,”

you die by a thousand little cuts. And it just wears on you. And it wears, it bleeds into the

shot clock a little bit. Okay. And so the consistent pressure comes second-hand. Where does that

put the Duke back? That that's what's going to be in a resting scene. And it wears into your legs, too, as well. I want to be able to try to get to a couple of the games because I knew you had some of these teams with Fox. But I went to Nebraska. How do you see that when going? I got to look up to what was the record during the course of the season. They split it right. Yeah. Um, and it starts with shoes to ball. Not a lot of it. He shoes to light out of it. I know he didn't

shoot well. Um, the other night, but it was just facilitating that guy. His team made to open biblical color and has done an excellent job of slowing down the pace. And remember, Fram McAfrey wanted to get it up and down. This Iowa team is more of this one doesn't. No, no, no. This Iowa team is way more methodical because of their personnel. But what they don't do is turn the ball out. The Brasco on the end, they want to get up and down. Fred Hoyberg has done a phenomenal job

with his roster construction and putting in NBA type of offensive system that can Iowa. I mean, and again, on a neutral court, one in one during the season, they've seen it. But the way that Fram Hoyberg is able to manipulate his offense with some NBA type of isolation

“plays, picture and role plays is going to be the key for me. How defensively Iowa is against”

his Nebraska team on a neutral court? Yeah, I couldn't believe what I saw the number on how limited the possessions were for Florida and even blown to lead. Like no one wins that game. No one wins that game against the one seed when you've blown that big of a lead and yet they get down to and then game blouses. Illinois is in fourth place team in the big 10, which speaks to their depth. You've talked about Houston. They had an offensive rebounding stretch against A&M in their game,

where it was so red. I think A&M just is way too early to say the game was over. But I felt like in that moment. It's like, this is such a humiliating possession. You can't get the ball back from Houston. Houston's deep Fleming's more talented. I would say then, log alert. But log alert is come out of the recruiting abyss here. Yeah, we're talking about somebody who went from like 250 to 150 in his class, which is still ridiculous. This guy's going to be a lottery pick in this good.

I think Illinois has every chance against this Houston team. But you never, not like with Houston,

there's never going to be an issue of effort and all that kind of stuff. I wouldn't say that, I mean, there's so many of these teams that are left right now. I just respect the fact that it's like, these guys are all kind of bringing it. You can't really back walk into the speed 16 unless you're just

“so supremely talented. You've lucked out against the opponents. But here's the thing where Illinois too.”

You can't duplicate like St. John's to force the power, the energy that they bring. I don't care what you do. You watch it on tape. You try to simulate some of the defenses that they've run in practice, but you don't have the person to emulate that. Can they absorb that first hit

up the way he really wants to wogler. Now it's filling the pressure from that Houston defense of

“physicality. That's how you handle that to me. That first five minutes of the game is going to be a”

telltale sign of what's going to happen for the rest of the game for Illinois. If you get all the

exes of knows and all that other stuff, that's the first and foremost thing that they're going to

have to tackle is being able to absorb that first physical punch. And that actually a punch. But the physicality that they bring to the table, those first three to five minutes of the game. Yeah, and the other thing too is like granted, there's only 60 draft picks. But when you start looking at top 100 rankings for NBA prospects, and we're very touched on wogler as a lottery pick. But the line I have for guys that are like at least in the mix here. So this isn't some massive

talent deficiency that maybe you would say with other just well coached kind of gritty big 10 teams. I don't have a ton on I just hope Jefferson comes back. There's a kid who's scoring two points

a game at St. Mary's four years ago. He's terrific. They still roll without him. So I don't have as

much on that one. What I would love to do is go back to a freshman year Jim Jackson with Ohio State and taken on UNLV in tournament. You were hanging I was looking up again this morning. I don't remember everything. But you were hanging in there at the half. I try to figure out if you were like we've got this shit as a fresh freshman who was immediately just on the scene scoring or if you were like this is actually a little bit more than I expected. No, no. Half time even late in the

game Greg Anthony hit a big shot to put him up eight. We were down five I believe it was and Greg had a big three. So we were right there to the last three or four minutes of the game. There's some free throws happening. But we felt that we can compete and if we put ourselves in the position we could win the game. Now again this is the UNLV. We knew exactly who they were. But we knew who we were. We just had to play and that's what we did. At the end of the day you

lay some of just like anybody else you know and you want to compete and we put ourselves in the

“position Ryan that us and also Ball State remember that year kind of push UNLV I would think more”

than some other teams in the tournament that year. The second game they had and then they wouldn't play

Ball State. Yeah look you were you were right in it. So you know when I was going back and looking over to stuff I was like oh let me go back and look at some of his tournament stuff there and that was like all right you know because like UNLV was like they were like the the bad guy the evil guy and horror movie for so many different people. Last thought I have to ask you an MBA question because I'm talking everything else you're doing. I'm just going to leave this one vague but what is this

clip or season been like and where do you think it's going. I mean this up and down a little roller coaster. Yeah it's been it's been for me it's been interesting because at the at the at the beginning kind of understanding who the clipers were as a team. New that we're going to be better but the start was just it just the connection it it it was something there at the beginning just wasn't there and I'm not going to blame Chris Paul for that it was just the energy in the building on the court

just wasn't there that all of a sudden boom it just starts to morph into something. James is rolling Kawaii is rolling zoo is playing well you got the bench playing well and you know you have that that stretch between you know late December all the way up to you know James had got traded and zoo got traded and then now you rebuild this whole thing that Ross and looks totally different so you have three different seasons within one so far for the clipers which I don't think I've seen before

like this have been a part of you know but yet still being very competitive right now it's just been crazy man and I love every bit of I love being in middle of chaos you know what I mean and figuring out what's going to happen because I just I love time a little what he's doing I love Jeff just a bomber and kind of staying with it in the beauty of a ride going through the this this the early period now one time did you see a coach general manager throw a player under the

box and blame a certain individual or group of players for why they were where they were

“and I think that says a lot about the organization and people.”

You're a busy man Fox for college troops clippers throughout the season and for tournament fans Jim's going to be on the call for CBS on the Thursday and Saturday games I believe here so

on CBS but it's through T and T the partnership so Brian Anderson and I yeah Ali LaForce

it'd be fun man I looked at it I was like so we got the second best region I feel from a competitive

perspective in team wise but all the gains themselves when you get to this point I just think this it's it's the best time of year. It's the best I mean I was I don't want to say I was whoop

“now late last night watching Tim will self-exput it's it was awesome and honestly I think so many”

the broadcast teams are terrific there's so much depth and I've just enjoyed the entire thing so hey me thanks for the time today and doing this. No any time that segment was presented by Microsoft Microsoft Copilot the AI assistant that actually helps you get stuff done. Copilot works across Microsoft 365 word XL PowerPoint outlook turning chaos into productivity need a presentation Copilot builds it need a summary of a meeting you definitely zone out in Copilot's got you

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hey good morning Ryan very excited to be here thanks for having me and very excited for Yankees giants and baseball getting back to in swing of things again I want to start with young guys because you know we taped with passion and I just love like the beginning of the year going through like the

prospect reports and being like okay you know is this guy because it's always the excitement of

something new like hoping you're going to see something you've never seen before which isn't entirely fair but was there a moment for you because I remember when you came up and you're 24 and you're all knees and elbows you're like have you seen this guy play like it is it is wild the joy that he plays with but you had hundreds of games in the minors after being kind of a fairly high pick the second time around so I almost feel like your path is kind of the odd path now or was it that they felt like

“you're someone that needs way more seasoning before you get that debut I think it was kind of just”

the the culture that they had the mindset and I think that the you know the regime that I kind of came up in was extraordinarily smart you know they want to make sure you're mentally ready you're not getting out of head of yourself that you really learn the game and they taught me and that Astro's organization coming up extremely well I learned they they did a I'm very thankful because they put you through schooling and I was like kind of a sponge for that like you go in the

morning and it's not just play baseball you go into the class and study the rule book and you study like certain plays and a lot of you know a lot of players are like I just want to play baseball when I lift weights I want to go do the thing but I like ate that up and it was like extremely valuable for me throughout my career in particular but yeah it definitely isn't necessary the way because I do think that there's more information available to kids there was not that much like

internet and people sharing secret there's a lot of secrets in baseball back then there was not YouTube and and all these things where you can study from some of the greatest minds in baseball

“so I think a lot of these kids are just so much far more far ahead of where we were in our”

time because we had a lot to learn from the professionals that that information just wasn't available so they're knowing this and doing the same thing as Aaron Judge or whoever the greatest players Mike Trout they bio mechanic did all in science did out they're doing that in high school and so in my opinion the player today is just so far more advanced than we were back then and when you came up though I mean you hit 322 you know bunch of pops in the hundred plus games

did you think like wait a minute I've got this in that first year was Houston you know I was I was definitely locked in and when you know I looked back at my career I would say my rookie year I I had something going and it's funny I'm not sure how much Ryan you played baseball it's a finicky sport and it's timing it's delicacy and you'll see someone being all star and then be released the next year and for me I had this like get your foot down

early and I was in sync with it and I thought that I had it down I wasn't sync with it the whole

way I kind of had an injury where I slid and like kind of broke my wrist and then I like never

was able to get that foot down early again the rest of my career so I got back into leg kick and all this stuff but I was just in a good rhythm from the fallie where one of my teammates from the fallie could told me like hey your foot needs to get down earlier and it carried over and then I was kind of back to square one the next year because I could never get it going again were you shocked you were traded so early with the Astros yeah a little bit yeah just because

I wanted to be with one organization you know you dream of being a Craig Bidgeo a Jeff Bagwell

“these guys that really inspire you and it's not out and you're control so I definitely didn't”

think they were gonna trade me but I will say this after after I was traded and living through the experience and getting to play in Philly and getting to like playing some of these other cities and knowing where the Astros were at that time and what they were gonna go through for the next years and where I was in my career I have to give a big thanks to Ed Wade and Drake McClain for being like this kid is like ready to go play in the playoffs like we can get a bunch of talent

and try to build around it but it was a way better deal for me to get traded than to stay with them and what they were because they were about to sell all the players sell the team and do this massive rebuild that would have been my prime years so I was very fortunate to get traded I didn't know what at the time yeah then it's kind of interesting too because like you're still putting up numbers you know that's that's by the way that's really interesting unlike the rookie year and then

feeling this way and then never feeling that way again despite putting together you know a nice

a really nice career with multiple all-star appearances here but to then end up in San Francisco like it it almost feels like your joy for the game was rewarded not that these other stops weren't incredible but the run that you go on that team that you have the way that you're

“embraced and that's it again I think you've always been a fan favorite everywhere you've gone”

but they just felt like a lot of transactional uncertainty for somebody that was producing and that was young and it was almost like you rewarded for that with the giants yeah I mean I went to the fillies the first year uh Astros to fillies and then fillies to giants and um but yeah when I got to San Francisco uh it was a very unique team you know we had we had some really big fun personality you know you talk about lynx come kind of in his siren era you talk about bum gun or just emerging

Sergio Romo Brian Wilson's over there you know just some really Pablo Sandoval you know the Kung Fu Panda it was a wild time to be with the giants it was a lot of personalities and um and really this city you know I think it really helped me awaken to who I am it's I just kind of really aligned and dig the city that kind of creative vibe the the kind of free mind almost hippie vibe I wouldn't say hippie all the way like like but I definitely am kind of like that free spirit that likes

the laugh and be a little bit different and my playstyle is a little bit different um so uh I just fell in love with the city I felt like right at home and I kind of feel like I became myself when I

got over to San Francisco and and boat was just like amazing at putting all these crazy personalities

and getting them to go one direction and like I like he was like he's kind of a bit of a risk figure he likes a little person now he wants his players to be risky and crazy and fun and exciting to watch and he kind of just encouraged that and brought it out of us who would make a better roommate let's come or bum gunner um I mean they're both it's it just depends on what you want it depends on what you but Lindsey comes really kind of on he's he's a he's a bit of a

a loner like he granted he's like a great teammate and he shows up and when he was there he's honestly one of the most giving kind people but he just was like an introvert that wanted to go and be by himself bum gunner bum gunner wanted to spend time and you know go hang out get out the

“words he was gonna he was gonna do something cowboy so if you want to do some cowboy stuff”

you want bum gunner yeah and especially if you want to close out because I love those teams I love those teams I love the level that he elevated to like you want to talk about some of you responds to the moment in a way like we're talking about all time unhittable stuff during those years in the postseason it just turned he liked the guy turned into just Superman and it had to be I what was it like for you to watch yeah I mean really impressive and as

as Ryan as someone who's like really curious about you know meeting the moment about success like I love like this psychology the mentality like I love kind of learning both through you know failure people who don't do well and do well and like what is that secret sauce or whatever the belief so to speak from like the the kung fu panda but really the thing that was super cool with

bum gunner as it was never a big deal to him like he was never like over in the world series

it matters he was just like it was like the same guy was very neutral like and there was no highs there was no lows he actually and he self was very self aware of this is like if he was pitching against a team that wasn't considered that good he didn't do very well like he he like the better the opponent was the better he got it was like he he he loved the challenge and so like when it got a bigger stage he got bigger and better and when it wasn't a big stage

it was he kind of like wasn't his best self so that was kind of what I noticed from bum gunner he was extremely strong minded strong willed and and literally like just a walking living

roping cows and stuff and like yeah just get on the farm and do that stuff

you make a great point though about meeting the moment with him though because you know I remember I was on daily every day back then and you know you'd get geared up for the world series and start talking about it and then you like look at the seasonal stuff and the pitching matchups and everything and you go for somebody that's this dominant like the regular season it's not as dominant as the other dominant guys like there's these maybe five to ten pictures that are

starters like look at all these numbers and like wire or bump gunners numbers not to them and then he's like you know Pedro I don't even like comparing anyone to Pedro but it's like absurd levels of efficiency so that actually makes a lot of sense that like once he was geared up and ready for it there was just something to respond to football basketball I feel like you game plan right you figure out how you want to defend things you figure out how you want to attack things

baseball it's probably more about a lineup get on the same page about how they want to attack a pitcher but for all of this Dodgers talk especially with the team that you're involved with mean in the same division is there any kind of blueprint is this there exist a game plan like hey this is how you get these guys in LA I mean there's not like one way it's like you know like

“I think my Tyson had a really good you know and you can take a one-on-one fight you could even”

think of like you know I don't like to talk about like a battle on a battlefield or whatever but everyone has a game plan to get punched in the face and like with regards to baseball there's there's so much chess going on the deeper you get into the game the deeper it goes and I think one thing that I get a little upset about is people being like the Dodgers bought their world series because if you watched the way that they played and who their heroes were and

and yes you buy yourself probably a really good chance to make it to the playoffs but look at what the metspin and they didn't even make the playoffs last year okay so if you watched the Dodgers they execute they do the little things right they are disciplined yes they have great pitching and they have autony but that doesn't just like run you over we've seen people like you know

like Barry Bonds never want a world series probably the greatest player I've ever seen people are

you it was wheelie maze but I never watched wheelie maze I got to talk with him it's not like players individually it's execution and Dave Roberts if you've ever I've got to interview him I've been very lucky because I'm covering a lot of this is absolutely brilliant at how he leads of game planning and they just have a wonderful team but watching their playoff run and like the fillies how they were able to pull off the wheel play and game two to steal a game that they

really needed you know and then when the moment happens a guy who by the way I think is an incredible bullpin pitch I know he is throws the ball away when he doesn't really need to he just needs to get one out Orion Kirkering that costs them a game the Dodgers don't make mistakes and they

“and the Blue Jays still could have beat them they suffocate you you have to earn it and they're”

very talented and and so I think you got a tip your cap to to what the Dodgers do but if you do want to beat them you just you have to play the game in the right way you have to like you got to find the way to score run I think I watched the series when the giants were actually playing really good towards the end of the last year they had we shot ourselves in the foot a lot unless you're like really in the weeds we dropped a ball that was like in field in they said in their runner we

catch we throw Bailey drops the ball this this out ball is the difference in like winning a series and giving us a chance to make the playhouse versus getting knocked out this is one of 162 against the Dodgers so we had one game one one of our young pitchers pitch really well and then we lose game two and then it kind of snowballs but for me you just have to play the you have to play the game the right way I do think that there's there's probably at least 17s that are equally talented

and any team in the big leagues can beat anybody on any given day it's just the way it is we watched and I'm not going to say Italy was like not as good or talented because they had a very talented lineup but we watched them beat the US and the WBC you're right I mean that's that's the crazy thing of you know some of the other Dodgers teams you're like this is loaded maybe pre this ownership and then you know they're getting bounced out there's plenty of teams especially with the

structure of the postseason where a team's closer to 100 wins and the team 80 wins ends up getting through it all we're not that far removed from Arizona Texas in the world series you know

“which was an incredible story for parody first worth that ultimately again you know I think”

historically doesn't get enough credit for the parody that it has but the Dodgers are LA it's the headlines it's every single player it's the salary cap stuff that well different salary but the tax stuff that people are just more aware of and there's just angst around it where I don't know

if it's good or bad if they want a third one here it's exciting I actually think it's probably

rooting against it now collectively that now again I was talking about passing about this earlier but it's just this common enemy that everybody else would have who are the seven teams I'd be really interested to hear that from me Hunter well let me even take it back to their first world series where like it was very way closer than it looked because you know you you bring in who is it nested Cortez for the first lefty you initially walk and then it's like it's first

outing to face ready for him and he hits a crazy clutch walk up but even that game five were like they they were way ahead and then they they make all these airs like uh judge drops a ball that

he never drops like cold doesn't cover first the the ending's kind of escalating it's like the

Yankees were just as talented and and and maybe had a chance to roll um you know if if you're looking at it right now I can just go off the top of my head teams that can compete with the

“Dodgers I think um it's easy to say the Yankees have a a line of thing to do it after you”

the cubs added bregman they have they have the power the Met's obviously with Soto and that lineup are extraordinary I think the Giants and Padres both can match up with them uh you're looking at Musgrove coming back you're looking at some some really power arms over there uh they have obviously Machado and Tautis and uh a young core with with with with Jackson Merrill um that it's an electric lineup but the Giants just added you know Luis Sarais who looked incredible in the WBC Harrison

Bader and Center Field um Mali who arguably was one of the best pitchers in the Rangers the line

Arsenal last year it's kind of quiet but his number stack up with DeGrom and and uh Evaldi so um that's just off the top of my head the Red Sox obviously are the Red Sox and they can do what they do we saw what the blue jays did last year and oh by the way they added um the strike out leader more strikeouts and ever been done before and the and the Korean League last year Cody Ponce who I know very well and I know the work that he put in um he's gonna be like a frontline starter

for the for the blue jays as well I know they lost Boba Shet so that'll be interesting to see but

“there's there's multiple teams and there's gonna be a couple teams like I think the Reds”

I saw Chase Burns in spring training um you got Fran Cona running that and Burns it looks insane it's like 99 bullet missiles uh slider he can change the shapes of it with the curve ball and to change up um then you also you know obviously um oh who is it hunter um the hunter there hunter green so there's some young talent coming up there's some really solid teams and that's just like off the cuff um so there's many teams in the fillies I mean that like they could do it for sure

yeah I think the fillies are I don't know it's very odd like when I was doing my pre-season stuff and kind of looking through it I was like why is everybody off of this team this team

team seems loaded in a division with a ton of questions marks did you never know if the

Metz are gonna figure out feels like the brave's entire rotation is is a question mark after sale and so um I'm I'm just kind of excited to see what happens in the central because the reds have loaded up green supposed to be back middle season see what happens um because they're probably better Milwaukee always seems to be better than ever whatever we think they're gonna be yeah I already mentioned Milwaukee and I know that they had a tough series against them but

they have Milwaukee they don't that they're young and talented that's a good point man with stuff guys because this is now and you were talking about the biometrics and and all the stuff now spin rate everybody's kind of looking at everything and that you you know you look at this generation like soaking it up a little bit more now um when you look at the top top guys like the skins, the scooble, crochet there's more names that I can throw at you here

from from just a stuff standpoint you're in it every day watching it like how fast is this advancing for just how hard it is to hit somebody's guys now at the top you know it but as science advances for pitching it advances for hitting as well and um I definitely like got to reap the benefits of that in 2019 when I really learned it and I definitely I know for a fact that now that I understand kind of the physics of that matchup and like the

geometry and like what you're trying to do um it was a massive advantage for transitioning to the broadcast booth because like I'll be honest with you I was like a competitor I love the game I didn't know mechanics very well I just like practiced a lot I got as strong as I could as fast I could I went out there I wanted to see the ball hit the ball I played like a guessing game a gambling game I would I would you know figure out what the picture was throwing and and practice

that off the machine or whatever and set traps but then when I really learned the math of it you see the game in a little bit of a different way so I do think that you know the pictures I mean like skins what he's going out there honestly even mentally is like I don't know how you hit

“that because like you have to guess right and and that that's kind of it it's just some of”

some of the nasty stuff crochet as well can just be absolutely oppressive and and they're creating

it's kind of like it's like playing math it's like you have like this window to hit the ball

if you're on playing with it versus like this window if you if you get your barrel on playing so like your contact point as the ball's passing like if it you know and I'll give you a very example like I was terrible at hitting sinkers my whole career and to kind of like make this more digestible and so a sinker is essentially like I'm up the bat right and it's coming in at me and it's coming down like it will sink down and in towards me all right so

what I would do because I had a very flat bat pass so if the ball's sinking give a very small chance with a flat bat path to hit a sinking ball it's going to like catch the bottom of your bat

“and you're going to hit a grounder that's why sinker ballers get grounders I would just try to swing”

my flat bat path underneath so if the ball was here I was swinging like two balls underneath it and hoping I met it all right because but I have like this window to hit the ball but if you take almost like instead of your barrel coming through straight you go through really vertical almost like a golf swing now the sudden your barrel is on path with the ball it's like running into your barrel and so like you could like hit a really good hit for like this window of time of your

barrel coming through the zone if you just match the plane of what the pitch is doing. I loved that um that was terrific because like especially with schemes where you know they have those overlays where it shows you where the ball is released from and it can be forwarded from pitches and he's just masterful not only with the stuff in the velocity and the spin right and all that stuff but it's the starting point like good tunneling the tunneling that

pitchers do is insane and there was very few pitchers that could really tunnel well but when they could it it is really it's impressive but I think a lot of pitchers are able to do that now more

“so than before and you have to you have to you have to guess and you have to you have to you have to”

to play like percentages basically who would you have to guess that like it just drove you crazy

somebody that you went up against for your like I mean there's a lot obviously that you know and the thing is is the worst is to be in between and there's there's just two approaches to hitting that that give you a good chance to battle if someone's not like insane like 99 with like a 86 mile an hour split with the but the in the arm speed stays the same because it's hard to throw 99 and they have something come out 86 and you're arm moving the same right like because because like

the 39 it's coming through like this and then sometimes they'll slow their arm down for like the other pitch and so you can kind of follow the rhythm of the body movement if that makes sense yeah so let me think off the top of my head it's like garracle you know verlander sure's or these are guys you got to like really you got to hunt to certain pitch in a certain location you got to think with them like verlander just like really really really study really holiday was another

one who was like you know he was a doctor out there and he had cutter sinker change up he had like six pitches and he also did like three hours of study on every hitter and the lineup before he faced you like he knew what you had for breakfast before you knew what you had for breakfast it felt like I guess when I'm ever thinking of like the the guessing part of it like if you're going righty righty and you just go all right like anything away I'm just going to swing like I'm not even

trying to pick up the pit I'm just I'm closing off this half of the you know yeah let me give you a better example and I'll give you someone that's a really good tunler from really early on and I think I don't know he was doing it kind of before it's I was really young Ben Sheets with the brewers who's doing 95 hour and I think of a four seamer it has a lot of carry right and to off of it he would throw a curve ball so essentially what he wants to do is he wants to throw a high

fastball for a ball to get you to swing at but he wants to show you first to he's going to get the

curve ball it starts high and comes in for a strike all right so now it starts high it's a strike now he's going to throw a four seamer fastball really high and he wants you to swing at that because you think it's the curve ball for a strike and then like maybe he throws maybe he throws a curve ball that starts like it looks like a fastball and it dives in the ground and you chase that so that's kind of the cat and mouse game you're playing it's like am I getting

and with regards to even what I was telling you with the swing path to hit a curve ball you want to be steep similar to the sinker and to hit a four seamer you can't it's really hard to be steep and

“hit a ball that's carrying so you have to be flat so you got to pick one or the other and you have”

three strikes and you have like three or four bats off the guy if you really match the plan and you don't miss your pitch you need to sell out for that pitch and let the other one go now with regards to you being like oh I'm going to take away the outside part of the plate it's not necessarily that simple Ryan because let's say Adam Wayne Wright. Adam Wayne Wright was like a slider way sinker he had four seamer he had to big big curve ball as well but he loved to like it's called

a ball the way it looks so far away from me it comes back and it nibbles the outside corner

“Malina was good at like getting him a little bit off the plate and so now you're like you kind of”

out there and then he'll throw you a slider that starts right on the outside corner like oh that's the sinker and then it goes away and it's off the plate so he's like doing this kind of East West and then a four seamer in to speed you up and then a slider way can you lay off of it strike the ball can you lay off of it now I'm going to now I'm going to zip you with that ball to strike and so that's and then he still has Uncle Charlie and four seamer in off that he always freaking through

like it was never strike but as always the FU man like he's good at it who is the best the third

times through the lineup you know it was a small it's hard to I feel like bum garner was one of those guys that got better as the game gone on there's a couple of them you know there's a couple of them that you could get too early and then once they settled in you were just in trouble I'm I'm not able to really get one off the top of my I know Jake Arietta was pretty good because he could have command issues early and he had a two-year window here like a 0.75. It was pretty ridiculous

“you know I think Wayne Wright was another one that like once he settled in he got better and”

the bellow might not have gotten harder but he just got in rhythm with the game and he just started like really commanding everything but if he hung a curve ball or didn't quite have feel for something you could get to him a little bit early as well yeah because it's just such a rarity down but I I'm so excited I think for this year just because of the depth of the top line starters and yeah there's a lot of fun matchups to watch right like skiing still hasn't thrown north of 200

innings and not seeing like hey let's let's blow this guy out with get him a 280 like back in the day or three to you know some of the absurd inning numbers that gap in years and years ago but I just think what you have the arsenal some of these guys have it still might be better than your fourth reliever coming in in the fifth or sixth inning but we'll see we'll see I can crack and only hope and you know last on a lot ofnings round he's going to be he's going to be there

on Wednesday the Netflix game Logan Webb. Logan Webb you're starting to get 200 innings and then max free I mean what if what if what a way to start off the season those are two bangers right there

“I mean so anyway I do think that the ending's pitch has been lost on baseball and I think that”

it's like you want to talk about like like locker room credit like how much that weighs on a team how you like because even like if you're throwing in your fourth reliever and sorry to go on this tangent if you're throwing in your fourth reliever every game over and over the weight that that has on the bullpen they're not going to be as sharp or as crisp but when you have these guys that are eating innings and keeping those guys fresh and allowing your manager to keep that balance

because if you if you just like absolutely pound your your relievers that are like getting the job done by the end of the year they're either going to be hurt or they're not going to be as effective so uh innings I think bring that back to baseball start respecting innings because we need to it's important do you guys ever have reunion parties and then somebody starts off from the line up apologizing to Matt Kane for the lack of run support over a couple years there I mean pretty

much every day you know not only Kane but bum and linsicum all of them it was called torture baseball all right we know that they carried us we had great pitching the core fore as well

was incredible um but we did play good defense behind them so you know there's there's one one thing

but yeah no I'm just saying Kane had like two years no Kane had like two years in there where it was like unbelievable like as a huge Matt Kane fan there for a while and I was like what is going on it's like do they all hate him no you want it so bad for him Kane is the best he's an amazing human like we want to score runs man it's tough I'm psyched for you I was watching interviews last night and it just seems like year year the guy and throughout all the years it's the young

guy that somehow became the old guy you stayed the young guy and uh I know it was kind of a cool send off for you to end up back with the giants it'd be part of broadcast team and more importantly to be with Netflix for the Yankees at the Giants opening day will be on Netflix exclusively 85

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at gmail.com so Rudy and Kyle are with us maybe just a quick Johnny's check in because we had a lot of people not so much checking in on me it's pretty obvious what I was probably doing when the Johnny's wanted darling bells turning they'll better no face time this time from Kyle I called so many of you but I did not call you guys I called a bunch of dudes I don't like hearing that I did send the I sent an emoji to the two of you guys and I was ready I mean the kid was it was earlier than bedtime

I was ready to go for the face time and it just never came so sorry wait I stay ready but I didn't

I didn't want to let down that would have been I would have been like that dreadal was so high you know everything was off the charts like this would really bring me down I thought the emoji was like a ham I'm available but you know and I was your emoji too it was the two two pure glasses yeah yeah I use that for that's my thank you emoji that's my good luck it's like you know it's a triple threat it was great I stayed in all weekend watching the games and then I was like Sundays

Sundays the day and what they're like an hour before the game stayed a little bit after because there were some other fun games going on but man the whole a lot of people in the bar were like what's going on like they weren't they are for college basketball it was more like adult types and then I was like like Johnny's right all of us were pulling the same direction and by the end I mean everyone was it was just like a beautiful scene everyone was wasn't to it it was fun not a lot of fun

I imagine that's five minutes wasn't super fun but no I thought they were going to lose 345 no yeah but I had a bunch of like non basketball watchers like they got this so like I had like started this wave of Johnny's stuff I'm like thank you I guess this is this will be better than nothing so thank you guys they were so into it yeah I had it was part of a parlay but I had like an alt Kansas line right so it's like just don't lose my tan or whatever and they were up

14 like probably I don't know what was that like made way through the second half and I took out my

buddies I was like this is cooked like they I don't know how they're gonna score and then from that point on Kansas just went on a run I was like oh no I just jinxed my gut got him and run That's all right they worked out for everybody and we love the support from Soruti even though I know he doesn't really care so no I'm happy that my friends are happy I have no connection to Canada but Canada Kansas also no connection to Canada both accurate state yeah no it's true yeah

I'm a weird weird slip but yeah no so I was just I'm rooting for the Johns and I'm you know do I got no connection if you either so let's go I'm more of a big-heast guy I mean I can't connect it like I'm a little big-heast tournament too so dude that would be such an elite I'll be under I didn't want to stay it out loud yeah it's awesome yeah I get some multi shirts and sifting through here

“all right well I think that covers the St. John's recap because people want to know what you had done”

what the shots he's I bailed on bailed on the I want it went for an intimate setting I bailed on the buffalo the way they yeah yeah I think that's the right call maybe on there was a guy

we were finishing up a NASCAR race as the second game came out I was like all right at some point

we have to we have to all agree what's what by the way Jordan team Jordan won like their fourth race of the year pretty great start for Michael Jordan his drivers there anyway yeah we're we have a lot of connect to those guys right that's Danny Hamlin our guy right love Danny that's your guy yeah we had a lot of Danny I didn't even awesome yeah they consistently he's got a podcast and then honestly they've been nothing but super nice and follow-ups like ask because if we want to go

to Daytona they've been asking that are you serious yeah they're actually going to be asking about you going all right stop you're trying to make it a surprise like so it's like I don't think he had it like he can go this year to sit up at some landscaping around the house I go to that make it work yeah

“I guess if you want to go we'll we'll try to figure it out I just didn't ever yeah I'd love to be”

ever kept abreast of whatever's going on with that yeah you'd like to be involved in short team Jordan task art yeah really successful run just keep me plugged right yeah so we can do the guy probably stopped texting me because he was just like this guy's getting an unbelievable invite and he's kind of just going like yeah so on your middle yeah would love to don't think I can do it all right maybe maybe I'll follow up or two but let's get into the the the meat

and bones of this deal here hey fellas 171 centimeters 70 kilos the light guy no player comp I have no redeeming features I've been getting shit at work for eating my lunch with a spoon everyone thinks I'm a child and needs to grow up and move to a fork my main reason is I eat

may make the email pointless as I don't really care when you did email us spoons easier to watch too

“that being said aren't I just being efficient in a way I hope I'm wrong because if you”

side with me I may tell these mid 20 coding non-drinking dweeps to put it where the sun don't shy I'm constantly tired my two kids four and three quarters and two and a half shout out routes and as I eat the same lunch every day their pointless spoon jokes may tip me over the edge over and out so he sent a photo in here that's a little pre-made deal there are the oats there are the tomatoes I mean the skies skies eaten right I would be honest I didn't know

people were silly and barley I thought that was like a I wouldn't have to google what that looks like doesn't sound like it's gonna look good is it boiled what do you call it is it boiled barley what

is it never dip my toes in the past game to be honest yes so first little cereal grain

one of the first to be cultivated known for its nutty flavor and chewy texture I'll say it looks kind of like ferro and I love ferro so by the way anything that sort of is going to be plentiful like this I'm using a spoon rice like little ground these rice steel I'll just go with a spoon put it back you've tried to eat the uh there's really couscous you need a spoon came with a fork you get like four nice and they're like they're like they're like the wrong size

that like and they're not like couscous not the real couscous like the bigger couscous these really just rather have rice we're not talking about that right I do because couscous I agree I don't love couscous either but his really couscous is like a top tier side for me well he's really couscous they're fine other name for it I'm just that I don't know why I'm going with that well I just don't I don't know I don't know how that'll be received right great look big spoon guy I'll just

disguise right this guy's right there's there's this fear of the spoon that doesn't make any sense

at all because you're essentially shoveling this is that why because you're basically shoveling

“food into your mouth with the spoon like that's how I feel when I decide to use the spoon where”

others would use a fork if a bite of the other way I'll use a spoon I can't believe we just got to see me because I did it recently because the only thing I had downstairs was a spoon and I grabbed the food and I didn't feel like going back upstairs and so then I was like well all I have is smells like what I care and you're right it was like a public shaming thing I was like well if I'm by myself don't we can see that I'm doing this and I'm sitting there smashing this

karaoke bowl and I'm going this is so much better especially when you're working out of the container and you're just maximizing clearance so there needs to be big spoon needs to get involved there needs to be a movement here where adults are going back to the spoon and that it's accepted so I think this guy's a pioneer and on top of what you're eating why is it even even even messing with you with how healthy you are 70 kilos not like going out of that workplace if this is

this what they're doing. It feels like one of those dude things were like you just kind of rag on a guy for something that's slightly weird but not really that weird. Yeah big yeah exactly like that's what that is I don't know if it's really you know they just they've clearly just isolated you not like going on it or the guy they can have some piratory about even though yeah you're probably doing it right

“I think you embrace it to the point you start playing spoon man by soundguard and you start learning”

the spoons and just on your land. Yeah that's stuff that'd be sick. Just wear a shirt soundguard and shirts maybe start yeah learning the spoons to what there's a guy I think on Instagram right now it does it in this car and I'm like I don't think it's either it's not that hard or he's not that good but I love the effort I love the passion. Did you ever see the outtakes? I don't even know if it was an outtake of he's been on it down when Danny McBride's talking about like back in the day

he's like man we've not pitched in Seattle he's like we had we had a fucking spoon man from soundguard part of you yeah yeah yeah it's so I love that show man it's so good random references we like cut our cut chemist DJ Mark Frina all the volumes oh bad and if things work out we're looking as if we could get trashel from the real or Vegas oh that's probably on my list I'll slide that in front of the next soprano's rewatch I'll get back on he's been on it down

yeah but to this guy I agree with which way you're leaning maybe go to like a crate and barrel but they have all those crazy like full full sets where you want to like hey we're moving into a new house and just see if there's like any good looking spoon there maybe one with like those like hard edges or something and then just have your special spoon really really lean into it just get one one set of of silverware for the office and like a real real outstanding spoon remarkable even

I think you sing and spoon man in your cube will be unbelievable speaking of rock bands

70 to 90's rock I throw it on his background music on the radio Pandora etc to go about my days you can imagine aerosmith is in the rotation a lot oh I can then I don't need to imagine a few weeks ago the topic came up during life advice and Ryan threw out an ace midi as a shorthand for the band since then that name has been an earworn

never before had I heard it I think about it several times a day Ryan was that accepted

nomenclature where you're from or is that just off the top of your head I need to know so I can gain some acceptance and move towards closure thank you love the pod I did not invent it but I don't really think anyone ever called him that I think it was

“always like a hackle here here's the thing congrats to aerosmith incredible catalog great work guys”

if you met somebody that was like ace midi's my favorite band of all time you're like this fuck it's wrong with it right I exact a fair statement now someone listening is right now your favorite band is aerosmith and good for you but it's weird it's a weird favorite band ever have so there was always kind of like a thing with them where sure I had the cassettes you know do looks like a lady killed it junior high for me all right pump we are we've covered this

recently all right but a guy from mass I think I can't tell if it's I don't remember if it's John Hallisier or Winnie Mike win from the old diehardt's day it was one of these guys and was a classic Boston guy thing where he just was like oh what do you mean ace midi and he he made it up and I've now I'm forgotten about it like 25 years and whenever aerosmith comes up I say a smitty and in my breath even though I don't think anyone actually calls me so I didn't invent it but I I too chuckle

internally because I just think about like the guy that still loves aerosmith and then I would be think it'd be even funny or if he's from mass and he was like dude I was like you've seen a smitty

at foxwitz you hit me with a reaps a couple years ago I'd never heard reaps and it's been like

it it it shook me up I've been I've been really been able to stand in conversation but I'm going to one day I'm thinking about how to make it fit in I really like never heard that before it does it does it does give me things I've really never thought about this like who who are the p ones for aerosmith the ace many p ones it's just gonna be like a great time in your life it's maybe

“not like it's the best thing ever but it might be like I was telling Ryan when I went to Jamaica”

the Take Care album first came out it came out like three days before I took a freshly 18 all yeah a freshly 18 all inclusive Jamaica thing and I just had that in my little wired apple headphones on repeat bouncing from bar to bar and it's like that album is great but I think there's no way it's better for me than anyone else because what exactly was going on when I was doing that I'll back yet that's I think that's one of the better out yeah it could be the best one I don't know

the 21st century there was something there's a lot of Drake hate going on so and that I came

up for you so that's a part of the record that's an incredible album but you're back to your

aerosmith point I feel like and you kind of hit on this Ryan it was what was what maybe think of it when Aaron were getting came out was like 98 I was like oh aerosmith are like the coolest fucking band in the world and then you hear like dream on and then walk this way with Run DMC and when you're and I was in like middle school and I'm like yeah I hear what does it get better than aerosmith

“and then but I think you just kind of like grow up and you're like wait aerosmith they're actually”

just kind of like a fun you know whatever band but they're not like your favorite band you know so I don't know like some band for first time really dream on I was like how come you guys are bigger than Zeppelin and then it was like right you listen to Zeppelin and you're like all right yeah it's just just levels to this yeah I think of like a basketball cup for ace many like the Jonathan Murray that's probably not good enough now I think that was how much it was good

in theory it has to be somebody where it's like yeah the ton of points like awesome I get it but come on I don't know Joe Johnson there was a time where he seemed pretty that's actually not terrible he's like dude he's showing up to dream on though yeah no but Joe Johnson for like a couple nights you know in the asso you know I feel like Joe Johnson like you're talking like really good but not ever great and not put up with the great Joe Johnson and it's not terrible it also has a

nightmare but I think there's a good light if somebody said my favorite player ever is Joe Johnson you'd be like what? right anyway okay nailed it cool yeah I think we spend enough time on that picture this it's Monday morning you open up your laptop outlook hits you with 87 unread emails your calendar looks like a game of Tetris played by a toddler your boss wants to report

your emails boom your caught up a drafts your report in word it builds your slides in PowerPoint

it even pulls insights from your Excel data suddenly you're the office hero people think your organized responsible maybe even promotable all because copilot did this stuff you didn't

“want to so if you want to reclaim your time or at least pretend you have your life together”

try Microsoft copilot copilot because sometimes the smartest move is letting AI do the work okay beach trip in Angry Girlfriend 510 200 pounds player comp washed Russell Westbrook I love to push the pace and get down the core maniacally but sometimes I get out of control also a very willing shooter but not super accurate sorry for a long email here's the deal I have a girl friend my closest friend who's gay invited me to his beach house this summer with two straight girls

you become friends with through an abroad program you did a couple years ago the last two times him and I did this beach trip he extended invitation my girlfriend as a courtesy my girlfriend is a good hang and groups her hanging out with me and my friend was not a negative on those trips awesome full stop great dude this year he wanted to invite his female friends and did not invite my girlfriend there were a couple wrinkles to this his friends used to live out of the country until recently and

now they're back in the state so it's understandable he wants to spend time with them over his buddy's girlfriend but also I have sometimes complained about my girlfriend to him so there's a chance that I've lowered her stock in his eyes as a good hang in cider insider trading there shouldn't

let that slip yeah I don't know I'm I'm always amazed with the guys that like our default setting

they will never complain about their sleeping and other and then what active betrayal is it to like go

“hey you know she's been on a case about this or whatever and like fenced like that's what your friend”

is supposed to be there yeah I'll use it to bad if if one guy's got some of you how do you do a child no I'll just use it to match like you know it's like not what about your wife girl I do I do but I'm just saying I'm among my my buddies like normally it's like I'll bring it up like so I got something else to say but it's like I usually I usually let I'll volley it back I'm not usually serving it up this is different obviously we know we're this show bits there okay all right so

there's that the classic life advice follow how cool is my girlfriend in short she is all caps very jealous as an example oh I need only over a former female coworker my age was a little creeping me even though I did nothing to invite the attention stuff like that I tell my girlfriend that I'm going to my friends beach house without her she's going to think something changed my friend and that he doesn't like her anymore since she was invited the last two times

exactly as she will for the right that's kind of legit though for the record she wasn't invited now she's not in this thing it's the same event it's got a little stink on it it's not gonna it's

it's not just like oh yeah all right never mind get you next time yeah did she go did she

decline the invite or no she went she did go yeah this is strange yeah no no there's just other new chicks going you can't go this time it's not I'm pretty sorry it ain't about all right so again she was needling me over a coworker little creepy even though I did nothing to invite the attention stuff like that if I tell my girlfriend that I'm going to my friend's beach house without her she's going to think something changed then my friend doesn't like her anymore

since she was invited last two times secondly she will ask who else is going I did not think I can get away with a lie here nor do I want a lie if she finds out I'm going to the beach with two straight girls she will not be happy to say at least one of the straight girls has a boyfriend the other single so not really covered on that angle either what should I do my friend would not hate me for backing out of the trip and I would definitely lie make up a reason so it's not to

reveal how little truster is my relationship also the two girls are not committed to coming yet so if they back out maybe I can reintroduce the possibility of my girlfriend coming along instead like I said while she has jealousy issues she's okay in group hangs appreciate the help love the pot go Johnny's all right thanks is there no room did I missed that I thought he just said he wasn't sure I thought there was like we don't we don't have the blueprint for this all right I mean that

just made a baby like listen this would be so much better if there's room do please like just do it for me you know I mean I don't because he right now he's operating and oh maybe this is

“because I said that and passing he doesn't even know I think just go straight to the source you know”

your buds work with me on this yeah that's I mean that's obviously the easiest and most simple way to do this it is odd that he wouldn't invite her and I think it's fair to be like hey like can my girlfriend come to if you think it's gonna be a huge problem and it sounds like you know this is a situation where you're not looking to break up with your girlfriend you're looking to stay with her so you're probably gonna have to take whatever side she's gonna be on in this situation if he

says no then you're not you're not going on this trip but I think you just have to go to the source

did go you're like dude you're only get like 80% me I'm just thinking about later this you're not even getting the full the full thing here and it's not like you're asking him like hey can you buy her ticket to the concert it's like I just bring her in the car with me so yeah this is this is this is not a weird ask not like surety's like world cup ask this is like a I didn't ask for

good no we don't like one by the way wink wink I've the same as it's always been I'm not asking

all right don't yeah I thought maybe the word would get out no I can't believe you would think

“that was okay I'm like I said it's not okay that's why I but I was I wanted validation whatever”

you said I was not gonna do that yeah but sometimes like who are you kidding there's soft launches on the show that was you're not known to be a soft launcher for better fit yeah I'm not yeah thank you you know me well enough to know that I would not just be like I'm gonna test the waters of my guys it's it's it's it's it's it's insane ask I said it was it's insane I know tripped up I live and here now throw my white part of the book she was like it's not an insane

ask you should just ask him and I'm not gonna ask God this is what you ask was if I could ask it's yeah what were the day or again the better 12 minutes this summer this was a master class honestly this is pretty easy you've got to work with your guy here first and foremost okay and I don't know if you're overreacting to a criticism shared here or there like you could be creating a lot of stuff in your head where you now think that she wasn't invited because of all

these different things it could be just a square footage thing again we don't know we don't know what the layout of this place is um he got he's got to know he's jamming you up though right like yeah there's no he doesn't he doesn't understand the consequences this guy love drama he should understand it all yeah it could be that he's the type of our email is the type of friend who's like very easy gone doesn't want to ask anyone for anything like enjoys being the guy who's like

never late you know just yes say what like we'll make plans like he he might enjoy being like

the perfect everything goes smoothly whereas I have other friends are like you know if we're doing to do this thing I need you to do this this and this for me then you got to pick me up like

“I just have I have some friends like that and I have some and other friends I think want”

enjoy being like the seamless addition to a group and I think this guy might just want everything to be perfect without having to ask so you can just gotta put your foot forward there and you know be real be real about the situation oh we also you know we don't know what the beach situation is it that is that the Hamptons are we talking Hampton Park and New Hampshire you know so that might be the problem like it's this unbelievable setting and he's like I don't want to be left

out but you know what you can't do here the things we can definitively say you can't go without her all right that's the number one thing so you tell your friend that even with whatever the backstory is whether that's actually impacted her his opinion of her or if you're completely creating a scenario in your head where that had way more to do with it than it actually did maybe he just says these two other friends maybe he really likes you and was thinking the whole

thing out and then maybe you just say to him hey dude that's not going to work and he goes oh my god I didn't even think about that right something that didn't happen yet you just say now look the thing is is regardless of how many bedrooms there are like if you go by yourself you weren't sharing a bed with anybody that we can I think safely so if you're going with your girlfriend you're sharing a bed so like how much room you're actually taking up so it is a bit of a weird

invite here based on like it's not like he's taking up another room if she's showing up so I think you just go to him and say hey you cannot I can't go you can't do this to me man you can't do this

“yeah you need to understand that strike guys gay guys we all get it but he is trying to play”

40 chess and it's like I don't like this girl and this is the first thing I'm going to just do this

little subtle along with you to maybe you shouldn't be with this girl you know and maybe that's what he's doing yeah a real puppet master here so but I don't think you can go for the benefit of our emailer here you know you didn't say you want to break up with her you didn't say any of this stuff the jealousy stuff can be really really annoying especially when it's stuff they you didn't do sure good luck with that joy of summer all right I'll do it for the show today

thanks to Kevin thanks to Tom thanks to Sury thanks to Kyle we'll have a good 10 minutes because we had so little NBA today after a big NBA weekend but look it was just it wasn't going to be on the radar with all the tournament games so we'll stay on the tournament throughout can't wait to keep doing that and then opening day baseball today pass in more baseball later this week so please subscribe the right way so let's show our story.