#318 Candace Owens - The Most Sued Woman in American Media

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Candace Owens. Welcome to the show. I'm so excited to do this. You and me both. You've done everybody but me.

Well, that doesn't sound good. All right. Yeah, I've been just like being completely left out. Well, do that. I've been nervous to meet you.

Really? Fuck yeah. I've been nervous to meet you. I don't want to get on your bad side. Me?

Yeah. Me? Little old me? Sounds like there's some rumors out there about me. I got to clear up.

I'm so nice. I'm so friendly. You know? Well, being our mutual friend Dana had a lot of conversations. I was like, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't want to wind up on a bad side. Show a spoke fairly highly of you. So. It's interesting to think about that.

Like what people think about you before they meet you because obviously, as you know, there's always going to be like the caricature, you know what I mean. And so we obviously have to rely on, I don't know, articles, what you hear, what's happening. And I guess there's always that moment where you're like, I wonder if it meets what I think I know about her.

It didn't. It didn't. It's way better. Obviously. So yeah, I was, I don't know, I'm glad we had dinner that night.

Yeah, it was such a great dinner.

I mean, your wife's amazing and your stories amazing and I was always keen to do your

show. I was like, wow, he's right here. We're living in the same town. We were almost neighbors and you just do great stuff. Man, I really wish that would have happened.

Yeah. The neighbor thing. I know. Almost. Who knows.

They'd be in the future.

Yeah.

Well, we got a lot to cover today.

We do. Good. Loco and on, man. No kidding.

“But, let me start off with an introduction, not that you need one, right?”

Candace Owens, your political commentator, author and independent journalist, known for challenging mainstream narratives and tackling controversial issues. Over the past decade, you'll become one of the most influential voices in all of media, building a massive audience through your commentary and investigative reporting. Today, through your independent platform, you continue to cover politics, culture, and

current events while questioning official narratives and sparking national debate, and most importantly, you're a Catholic. Most importantly, I'm a Catholic, a mother, a wife. That's right. And so before we get into your life story and all the other stuff that we're going to talk

about, a couple of things to get through of a Patreon account, do you have a Patreon? I was on Patreon and I don't think I am anymore. I know all about Patreon. Right on. Well, we're on there, and they're the reason I get to sit down with you today.

So, they get the opportunity to ask every single cast a question. So this is from Kim Turner. Candace, you faced intense public criticism, particularly, particularly accusations of disloyalty to the black community and the Christian community for holding independent views. How do you maintain your composure and stay grounded in who you are when those attacks

get personal? You know, I don't know, but I pay too much attention to the criticism that's lobbed at me anymore, only because it's constant. And if you, if I spent every day worried about what people other people were thinking about me or allowing them to find who I am, I wouldn't get a bed.

And I've got four toddlers at home. So I just shut that entire part of my life off, and people are very surprised by that, but it truly doesn't impact me. I know who I am. So, I don't have to go to the internet to learn about who I am.

You legit, it doesn't bother you at all. No, it genuinely doesn't bother me at all. I'm definitely, I think, battle hardened, I think, over time. Maybe when I was just getting started, I felt, I don't know, maybe a twinge of, that's not fair, that's not true.

But when you have substance in your life, real substance, and you're not swimming in

your own insecurities, meaning when I first got started, I wasn't married.

I didn't have, you know, I didn't have my family, I didn't have kids relying on me.

“So life is just so much more substance now, so real.”

Wow. Man, I mean, I'm a lot better at it than when I first started with the ship bothers me. Really? Yeah. And then I see, like, the time magazine cover thing that Trump posted about you.

Oh, gosh. Tweeting about you. Yeah. That was a moment. Maybe your enemy's a lot of math.

I can't believe that I forgot about the Trump thing, the Trump tweet. You forgot about it? Yeah. And until you just mentioned it, it's, it's not even something that I even think about. It was so strange.

It was so strange. I was in Italy getting confirmed by a cardinal, and that I was so excited about it. And it was just weird because it's the President of the United States. And it's something that maybe you would expect to see if you're in high school and people are trying to, like, find ways to hurt you, but, you know, with the President of the United

States is like, you're fat, you're ugly. You know, that just feels weird. It was just very strange. Well, it is weird. It's weird.

Exactly. I thought it was very strange. And I don't have. Did he forget you started a war? Yeah.

That a little more important than fucking generating AI time magazine cover photos about podcasters.

And beyond that, just kind of basically saying you're ugly is just, there's something

so elementary about it. And just on high school, that's not something that I wake up every day, and wonder, does the President that I state to think I'm hot or not, there's something about it.

“I think that just, okay, he's got a type and he said, Brigitte Macron's hotter than me.”

He's allowed. It's a free country, you know, it was that was definitely a moment where I was going, these are some strange enemies to have. Did you find humor in it? I genuinely, at the time, I was, there was just so much going on, I was in Italy.

And my phone started blowing up, and I was so excited about the eve of my confirmation that, and I had just had this wonderful dinner with my priest, and I had a meeting with the cardinal about the confirmation that I just turned my phone off, because I didn't want to even let in whatever energy that was, as nope, you're not ruining my day. And I was like, I felt like I was like, I'm a eve of my wedding or something.

And there was, there was too much spiritual goodness that was surrounding me, I guess,

the League and get confirmed, and I just wasn't going to allow that to be a memory.

And so I just was like, I'll do it that way when I get back. And so it's such a strange thing to be in a place where you're putting the President, I have sat on hold, everyone's supposed to guess what's waiting for response, and I was like, I don't have time for this good. That was it.

It was, I don't have time for this, I'm really excited, and it's, this is my wedding day, so to speak, and that was that, and then we had a fantastic time in Italy, and then

“when I got home, and the podcast was back on, I was like, okay, now, where was the child?”

Time to address the child, you know, shame on you. This is not a good look for you, and I don't have that. I don't wake up every day wondering if the President thinks I'm pretty, that's just not a part of my life. Well, as many enemies as you have, they, they give you a lot of attention.

They do. I think I think it helps you a lot more than hurt you, which is pretty cool. Definitely don't think that a moment like that empowers Trump. That's what I would say. I think it diminishes him in a way, and, you know, you shouldn't relinquish your power

like that as the President, you know, to dig up a photo of me when I was sick, and I shared that photo by the way. Are you serious? Yeah, that photo was real. I shared it early on in politics to talk about, I went through a really tough time when it was

a 2015, I got sick from old illness, and I never thought I was going to be the same

person. It was a leak, an HVAC leak that happened in my building, and it destroyed my insides. I mean, it started what's known as candiediosis growth in my body. I had, I mean, overnight, my whole, I felt like my whole life was taken from me. I couldn't think, and if you don't know what toxic mold illness is, it's almost impossible

to describe, but I had head to toe overnight, Exla, I had never had Exla, athlete's foot, my eyes were red and just kept pussing, and I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what was happening, why it was happening, my hair fell out, and in the scheme of everything that was going on, I, the worst part of it, forgetting the physical, and not recognizing yourself in the mirror, because I mean, I could share worse photos.

And he shared, I was like, if you want them all, this is actually, look, I look pretty good, relative to what was going on at head to toe, but the worst part was my, my brain.

“The only way to describe it is you can't think.”

You can't, it's almost like being an a permanent, if you ever have like brain fog, imagine like the most intense brain fog you could ever have, and it just physically exhausted me. So I was just in bed all day, every day, and the only way to beat back that sort of mold illness, I mean, they can give you temporary pills, whatever, it's through diet, like the most regimented diet, because sugar is what feeds it.

And so I, it took me a year to, and I never thought I was going to be able to be myself again,

and that was the hardest part, it's not being able to think, and I have relied, I didn't realize how much I had, you know, relied on my ability to reply, and I loved writing, and so it was, I just was, I remember just getting on my hands in these and praying, bargaining really actually with God, which isn't something that you should do, but I was like, I don't even care about the physical stuff, I don't care if my hair never goes back, I don't

care if I have these patches all over my face forever, if they never clear up, I don't care if I have athletes but once a week, like, please just let me think, like, please just clear the cloud in my brain, and I think about it, because it was right before I became a public figure, and I just now had the perspective that I was truly humbled, like, truly humbled before, and never thought I was going to look the same, like, and I never even

realized how much easier, like, how much I had relied on being, like, generally, good looking, you know, to kind of get to, like, if, like, there's so, I didn't want to see anybody, and my, I only saw my cousin, my cousin who still works with me today, and would not go out of the house, and because I was sleeping mostly the whole time in any way, and it was a long process, a very strict diet, obviously, I got so skinny because you kind of have

to start it, is that yeah, you kind of have to start it, so anything that has sugar, even fruit feeds it, and so, but in the retrospect, I learned how to cook, everything from scratch, we were, I learned how to eat the best ingredients, I learned about ingredients, and I became

“really passionate about that, I mean, that's why I garden today, so yeah, I was humbled,”

I was humbled right before I got into the public sphere, and so I actually look back on it quite fondly, and I think it kept me away from a lot of the vanity that comes with politics and publicity, 'cause I know it can just, just like that be taken away from me. Man, wow, so it took you, it's your lowest point, and exploited it all over this.

I was sick, I don't know, I guess you can go around and find people, and they have cancer and lose their hair, and put them on a time magazine, I was very sick, but I'm really

“proud of it, it's such a weird thing, but I, I shared it myself, and so I think what happened”

was a lot of times with his team, they just look for things on the internet and they're trying to be fast and respond, and they didn't know where the source of that photo was, and it was me.

I shared it back when I first entered into politics and talked about, you know, it tough time

my life, and yeah, I'm still just very proud of it, and greatly thank God, I got everything back, and I just my brain, you know, my hair came back, my skin cleared, and yeah, I'm very grateful, and well, I want to do a live story on it, actually one more thing, everybody gets a gift. When I get in, feel like everybody gives a gift, but I don't have a life that's cool enough

to match all of these gifts, I actually love gummy bears, are these actually elite, yeah. They are elite gummy bears, because you can't like put vigilance elite gummy bears on here, they're not elite. They're elite. Okay.

And I'm going to have one, I'll be the judge of that. All right. I love gummy bears, yeah, I'm going to, really good, I won't say that, actually so I'm really good.

“I love gummy bears, of course I'm with Brad, what do you think?”

I'm not just saying this because I'm on your show, they're all really good, why are they good? Well, because they're made in the USA, that's it. Yeah, yeah. Mark, baby.

That's right. 250 years of elite gummy bears. Yeah, yeah, but, all right, Candace, I want to do a life story on you, and then towards the end, we'll get into all the stuff you've been digging into about the past year or two. So where'd you grow up?

So I was born New York in White Plains, that's actually where my mother grew up mostly, and she went to high school there. So a lot of my family's in that area, where I white plains area, and then I went to school and had my formative years in Stanford, Connecticut, which is just kind of outside of the city.

It's kind of like if you have a job in the city and want to live in the suburbs, you move to Greenwich, Stanford, New Canaan, Fairfield County area. Okay. How many siblings do you have? Three, I have a brother and I have two sisters.

What's your parents do? Well, my dad was a plumber growing up, and my mother worked at a chiropractic facility. Sort of as the manager and did a lot of the billing for them. Okay. You guys tied?

Yes. Tied family? Yes. Like, oh my parents are divorced, so I mean, I guess you'd have to ask independently everybody's relationships, but my sisters, my siblings, we are very close.

“You have to have people, especially in your life, but I live who really deeply know you.”

And so, in the morning time, every morning, we got up, when I work out, call my sisters, you know, and to talk about everything, my sister, a little sister right now, she's saving up like some extra money for her wedding, and so she's actually helping me right now, like sort through the tips box, so we weren't close growing up, they're like, I mean, maybe my sisters were each of us, we're a year and a half apart, so we just bludgeoned

each other, you know, over everything, pretty much. Where you fall on the lineup? In the middle, can you tell? Get you tell, the middle child syndrome, it's a thing, it's a real thing, shout out to everyone in the middle child in the world right now.

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What'd you like to do?

I was always really into dance, coordinating dances.

I was very sporty.

“I think it took off through my mom in that way.”

My mother played basketball and cheer led when she was in high school. She didn't finish high school. She was a high school dropout, but she got pregnant, but when she was a, when she wasn't high school, she was very athletic. And so I kind of took after my mom in that way.

So I did cheerlead in high school, I did track and field. And we moved into my grandfather's house when I was eight years old. I was just like a granddaddy's girl. I was obsessed with my grandfather. And he just was always doing stuff in the back yard, you know, one of those old school

guys, my think of my grandfather as having like car grease on his hands. You know, let's make a granddaddy car oil on his hands.

His hands were always blackened and he always had a cloth that was wiping them and somehow

always had cash in his pocket and would, you know, give me my sister's cash. And I was always just kind of fluffing around in the yard with my grandpa, like in the woods, doing stuff. So my sister's and I were like cutting worms, climbing trees.

“I was definitely, I would say a tomboy, I just liked to be outside, which I think is”

very new to this generation and everything's behind the screen. But we were active, we were very active, jumpropping, bike riding, granddad taught me how to ride a bike or remember the day it happened. Yeah, I loved it being out there. Why did you move in with your grandparents today, Jake?

Because we were poor. So my, um, did your parents move in with you? Yes. And it was, the house was too small for all of us to fit into it, but we made it work. My grandfather came to the apartment that we were living in, which was in this really, sort

of dilapidated building and it had roaches. I was not, you're not aware of those things so much when you were a kid. And so we just knew that every, maybe it was once a month, I couldn't even tell you, maybe it was less or more, but we have to sort of take all the pots and pans out of the cabinets because the extreme we would have to come and spray because there were roaches,

you know. And that's not, my mother kept a very clean apartment actually, but it doesn't matter in those sorts of environments you live like your neighbors live. And so my grandfather just came and said, I don't know, my grandbaby is growing up like this because he worked really hard in his life.

You started in a sharecropping farm and, and think where he did, when my grandfather died, he went back and actually purchased the sharecropping farm in the south. Wow. That's where he retired. But he was living up north at that time in Connecticut and they had a middle-class house.

And he just said, I don't want my grandbaby to grow up like this. So we moved into their house and my sister and I lived in the attic, you know, kind of he put carpet down in the attic and turns into a room, which I thought was so cool. Because I used to love the show Hey Arnold and Hey Arnold had like an attic too. It's very, very good show.

And my grandmother and father were in the basement. So we just had to just kind of all fit in the house.

“And it was the best thing I think that could have happened for my life.”

It's the single greatest thing that probably changed my life was moving it with my grandparents and sort of being under my grandfather's patriarchy, if you will. Is he still alive? No. My granddad passed a couple of years ago.

It's really hard. Is he seen the rise of Candace? Yeah. Granddad. One of these really viral moments where I went to go testify at Congress.

And my granddad was in the behind me. It's a great clip. And when Ted Loud says something, I don't know what he, I think he played a clip of me and tried to apply it. I supported it off Hitler or something and you see my granddad in the back.

He's like, no, she did not say that. Like, no, she did not say that. And it's like, Granddad was going to get up and give Ted Lou a beat down. You don't talk, nobody talks to his grandbaby like that, Ted Lou. I'm down.

And such a, I'm so happy that that was captured actually on camera because shortly after that, his mind started to go and his memory started to go. I mean, and so it's just one of those last memories that I have in my granddad.

He was always behind me, whether it was teaching me how to run a bike and letting go or

like behind me at Congress, I just, my grand parents were just absolutely amazing. Wow. What would you say to on the viewer here today? I got to say everything I, I needed to say to my granddad, you know, good for you. Yeah, because my grandmother died unexpectedly and so I made a very conscious decision

to slow down and make sure that I got to say everything to my granddad. He knows how much I loved him. Good for you. Yeah. So you're with your grand parents all the way through high school?

Until 10th grade, and then we kind of moved into a condo, but I mean, all of my formative years are with my grandparents, always being around and yeah, it was a wake up in the

Granddad made breakfast, you know, my grandmother would make dinner and it was my grandfather

just had a lot of rules for us to follow because he grew up in the south and it was just like very structured and my work ethic comes from my grandfather without question. He had a job since he was five years old, like laying out to back or to dry on a share cropping farm. So he just got after the day every day.

Wow. Wow. How old were you when your parents got divorced? 23. Oh, 23.

Yeah. They got, I mean, my grand, my mom and my dad were just one of those couples that 23. Yeah, 23. 23. 23.

Oh gosh. And they got married in '93, so they got married after I was born and then they just were like, there was just a lot of fighting, you know, it wasn't one of those good relationships. And then when we were all out of the house, they called and said they were getting a divorce and at that point I was saying to my dad, no, no, no, no, now you guys should stay together.

Now it should be until death do you part. Now that we're out of the house, you're going to get the separate here.

“I remember exactly where I was walking, exactly which treat I was walking on in New York”

to say where I got the call and yeah, they, it was an interesting thing because I got to see in my house two totally different examples of how to live. My grandparents were very conservative and they, my grandfather met my grandmother when he was 17 and they say married until her dying day. And then I had the opposite example where the generation beneath my grandparents, despite

how they had raised them, they were just so different, like all of my dad's siblings had been divorced and this, it was a new culture and I remember when granddad.sick or started getting sick, I was helping him fix up his house and we talked about it. And I was like, how, how do, how do people who are raised and so conservatively kind of have, I guess, more liberal viewpoints on marriage and my granddad said something and he was

right. It's just the way he delivered it, which is so funny, but he just said, you know, it was those darn hippies. He just says the hippies ruined everything. And there's, it's a valid point, you know, done some research and I'm like, granddad was

right. They kind of brought in this sort of sex, love, rock and roll, love who you love, everything became so much more temporal, I guess. And I am just so, my grandfather's child, like my viewpoints, I'm going back where everybody wants to be progressive.

I'm like, I want to be regressive. I want to, I want some of that stuff that granddad had. What did you want to be as a child? What did you want to become archivist?

Well, it was the first thing I wanted to be an archaeologist.

An archaeologist? Yes. I was really into, like, as soon as I learned about Egypt, I had this weird fascination with Egypt.

“And just, I don't know, just, I remember in third grade wanting to be like, when I grew up”

wanting to be an archaeologist, that was my first thing I can remember wanting to be. And then you'll probably say appropriately, I then was convinced I was going to be a lawyer. I wanted to be a lawyer. I would have made a really good lawyer. You still want.

It's never too late. It probably coming handy for you. It would. I actually kind of feel like I am a lawyer in many ways, I get sued so much. And I really enjoy talking to my lawyer.

He's just become such a friend and understanding I love to read the documents. I mean, other people getting sued, I made it whole series in the Blake Liveley series. I do have a love for legal work, but I don't have to be sued to love it. I have to get that straight in my mind. You don't have to be sued to appreciate law.

But yeah. How many times do you think you've been sued? Too many. I mean, it's, oh, in the last few years, it's been a lot, man. It's been like, I feel like the daily wire was like three episodes that happened,

which felt like a lot. And then I have obviously the Brigitte one, which was a lot. And then I got pulled into the Blake Liveley one, which isn't really like being involved. And then they tried to pull me into some Kanye wine, not being the person who was sued. But yeah.

So I just kind of got familiar with the people that were serving the paperwork. They're great guys, by the way. The servers. They're fantastic. They show up in like motorcycle.

So I just like we love you. Like, you know, and we're going to charge the other guys more. They're amazing.

They're, they're absolutely amazing.

“And then this Brian Harpole wine, which I'm, I'm being sued because of your show, you know?”

My show. Yeah, you know, I should sue you. Okay, Brian. You know, I have a couple of little lawyers. I'm going to drag you into my loss.

We have a, we have a, we have a running, every time the Fed X dropped drives around here, we're like, oh, fuck, here it comes. I don't even open them anymore. I just sun them to. So funny.

Yeah, you know, yeah, well, Brian Harpole sued me. His lawyer wrote this amazing story, which was just made entirely.

not a public figure, which is very important.

“You have to establish in defamation, are you a public figure or are you a private person?”

And obviously, he made himself a public figure by going on this podcast and interacting himself into this Charlie narrative. So they were trying to argue that he's not a public figure. And he basically said he was forced to become a public figure because of me is that like, I'm the reason he went on the, he had to go on a Sean Ryan show to clear his name.

And I never covered him on my show once.

Or spoke his name on my show before he went on your show because it was. So hold on, he's claiming he came here because to counter your narrative. Yeah. But you weren't talking about him. Never said one word about him or the security apparatus because I knew them.

And my mind just wasn't there at all until he did your interview. And it was so disastrous in my view. And I think also the view of all the people who watched it according to the comments, there was just something off about it and I went, whoa, he's answering questions. We're the stuff that he's saying doesn't really make sense.

But that's the argument they're trying to make because they're trying to get the court to see him as a private figure who only had to come out and do the Sean Ryan show. They want to be as podcasts in the world defend himself against me. And I'm like, well, that's going to be a tricky argument considering I never spoke about you ever on my show until you did the show.

Wait a minute. Exactly. He's what? What is he showing you for? Deformation, which is a difficult for me to comprehend because it's so in the category of opinion.

Like the first few pages of a lawsuit, he's just kind of calling me an antisemite.

And I don't know what that has to do with the lawsuit at all. He's not Jewish. Last I checked. Neither was Charlie Kirk. But he then moves on by saying that I defamed him because I said that the security team

was incompetent. And so he's blaming me for a loss of revenue to his business because I said he's incompetent. Now, I would generally say if you have a business and your job is to provide security. And your client dies on the job. That might be the reason you're not getting many clients.

I'm not saying I'm a genius, but I don't think people will be lining up to hire the same security people that guarded Charlie Kirk on September 10th. But he thinks it's actually because of me calling him among many other things calling him incompetent. Asking questions about why they didn't have people on the rooftop that day saying that

like the support they supplied to Charlie's neck was an adequate. I mean, just things that you can see with your own eyes as they're handing them to the car. Has they're like holding him to the car? Him saying on your show that they didn't provide CPR because he had to stop the bleeding. I have questions about that.

“If your heart stops, what's it matter if you stop the bleeding?”

So I'm going to stand by my assessment that he was incompetent. And then the second chunk of his lawsuit is saying that I guess he deformation per se might be his argument because I asked about whether he was at Fort Wachuga because somebody believes they saw him at Fort Wachuga on the 9th. But he admits in a lawsuit that I texted him four times asking him just to say yes or no.

So I could just, you know, very quickly say, "Oh, I reached out to him," he said it wasn't him. But his reason for why he didn't answer me despite me trying to get an answer and why he's decided to just instead sue me was because what was his bizarre legal reason for why he just didn't answer any of my questions.

I think he said because, "Oh, he didn't want me to get famous off of him." I promise you, this is his argument. Is that the reason he didn't answer? He didn't want you to get famous off of him. That I was just going to use it for clicks.

So if he had answered me and said no, I wasn't at Fort Wachuga, that I would have used it for clicks and he didn't want me to use him for clicks. So that's the, that is the thrust of the lawsuit. So what does he want? Does he sue in you for money?

“I think, yeah, he wants money and to be determined by a jury because his business has”

been affected. That's actually going to court, which I'm really okay with because a lot of the questions that we're just trying to get answered. We can now force him to answer that and bring other people into to sit down for deposition. Do you have a court date?

Not yet because we still have to, I think our, actually, don't quote me on that. I have to check them with my lawyers. We might have like, I think we have something coming up where we have the file our response, like the next coming weeks or something. Where will the lot, where will it happen?

Here. You're a national. Yeah. Yeah. He's got to sue me here.

This is where I defamed him apparently. So I didn't know, did he tell you he just like really felt like he had to do the show because of me was very strange. I didn't get that. Yeah.

It would have been weird because I never talked about him so, hey, can I come on because

of Candace? Yeah. Not talking about me. It's weird.

It feels like a PR move to me to be honest with you, but you think it'll go the distance

or you think they'll just drop.

“I think they filed it in such a sloppy manner that they're hoping the court drops it.”

And then they can say, well, we tried. We were telling the truth. And there is a lot of that in the court system where people file for PR reasons. I mean, Brazil is a perfect example of that where you're doing something that you kind of know you can't win in court, but it allows you to then say, well, we really tried.

And obviously, we must have been telling the truth or we wouldn't have sued. And that's not the case. I have not changed my mind about Brian Harpole and I was very thorough in trying to just get him to give me a response. Like I would have happily taken a response from him and he still hasn't offered one.

You just sued me? Yes. Did they have any other clients? I don't know. He hasn't since it was just the initial filing, we haven't gotten into the details of who's

not booking him or if someone dropped him, but that would just to me seem like common sense, especially when you say, I mean, if you watched his interview with you, you wouldn't book him. You know, it's just the previous one. I mean, I'm just curious.

Yeah. I, what do the deformation do? That's the still work I'm for TPSU. He's not, my idea of saying he's not so working for turning point USA. And I did hear through the great fine that they sent him a cease and dis, into this

after all of the flag that he got for his various appearances, things that he was saying. That was just making things worse because he doesn't sound honest when he speaks. He's not clear and he's also dishonest. I mean, he said, even when I was watching your show and that was one of the reasons we covered it was because we instantly learned, he presented those messages when you asked

him about the rooftop.

“He shows these messages and then he says, what am I supposed to do with that?”

You know, the implication being that this is a conversation he was having, but it wasn't. He was showing you Dan Flood's text messages. So that was strange and dishonest and yeah, I, and they were also, the discussion wasn't even about Lucy Center, the discussion was about the walkway above Charlie. So it seemed like even when he was on the show, he was focused on PR, but he just wasn't

very convincing and that's literally a lawsuit that I described him as not very convincing and that's defamatory. That's defamatory. And I stand by it, he wasn't very convincing. Yeah, I probably should have pressed him more.

I just, I fucking felt bad though, I mean, it was still really fresh and the guys tear it. I just, I wouldn't, I've been around a lot of loss. You know, in my previous career and so I didn't want to, I wanted to be respectful. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think you did the right thing, actually, because even though the viewers might feel

frustration, the reality is that if you had put him under a light so to speak, he would

have clamped up and we benefited a lot from him just speaking. I'm still benefiting from him just speaking in other parts of that conversation that are being pulled and discussed certainly from the lawsuit's sake, it's beneficial that he kept describing things in detail.

“So I think it was good to sort of let him talk.”

What are some of the other gems that you pulled out of my interview with Brian Hart? I mean, there's, I think at some point, I think it was your interview, might have been someone else's where he said that he, when he got to the hospital and he's like directing the staff or whatever and he, like said that he cut off Charlie Scher, I mean, that's just, that's fantasy.

That's full fantasy. That's not how that happens. Everybody knows that when you get to the ER and somebody is on a stretcher, some random guy who's bringing the person in doesn't start calling the shots in the hospital. So there's a lot of questions about what took place at the hospital, why cash but

tell him moved to have the cameras as one of the first acts is get to get the cameras down

inside of the hospital. That's very strange, the varying stories that they've all told about what took place, why they were all then wearing scrubs, Frank Cherich saying that he was on the phone the whole time with, and didn't realize with his, who's Frank Cherich? Frank Cherich was another, one of the people that was in the car and he's former military,

he was there and jumped in the car with them. By the way, that's even weird and I know why he jumped in the car with him to be to be honest with you and he was at the hospital and he tells conflicting stories and says that they did perform CPR. It's all just very strange.

It just seems like something, why are all of your stories running into each other? Well, how are those running into each other?

Well, some people were saying they did give them CPR, some are saying they didn't. Bryan said they did not perform CPR because they were focused on stopping the bleeding. Frank said that they did perform CPR. Bryan said that Frank was just in the backseat praying. Frank said that he got involved, which is the reason why he had all the blood on him or

whatever. So, the discrepancy between the people that are in the car doesn't really make sense. I mean, I don't know, do you give CPR to some of his when shot in the fucking neck? Well, if you don't keep someone's heart going, it doesn't matter, right? Nothing else matters if your heart stops pumping.

So, yeah, you would give CPR, I would imagine, you keep CPR going at all times. I'm certainly not a medical professional, but I do know that if your heart stops your dead. So, you gotta keep the heart going and them not having the ambulance on standby. I'm not standing up for them.

I don't know if that's, I don't know if you would do CPR. That would be the point of, you know, if your heart's not going, your heart's not going. And I'm not even saying, and by the way, I'm not even saying that what was right or what was wrong to do. Bryan, the stories are...

I'm saying, the stories are not consistent.

“And that's what has been so troublesome for people that are investigating this.”

It's why do you guys all have different stories? Why are there so many lies that have since been unpacked that initially, they said a lot in the beginning. And they've since, you know, pivoted on their stories quite a bit. Why do you think that they repaved that thing, what, how many days afterwards?

Because by Sunday, they had the person coming out of Sunday, so Charlie got shot at 1223 on a one day, and they had early morning on Sunday, pavers come in. And even before then, they had the soil removed by a separate group of people.

They had the soil removed first, 10 inches of soil removed first.

Do they do that at any other murder scene, at anywhere? Absolutely not. The soil removed. Why the fuck would they have the soil? Well, their excuse is we were putting down pavers, so it is normal to remove soil to put

down pavers, but why were you putting down pavers? Why were you paving over the crime scene?

“And in that scenario, I think you normally do, from somebody that is in that space, said”

that about eight inches, you would remove so that you can install the pavers. They removed 10 inches of soil, and they had two separate people do it. So they had people working for the governments that removed the 10 inches of soil, and in the next day, the pavers came in and put in the pavers. That's not normal.

You have a scene where people that do both, so they wanted, they had to dirt removed first.

And so we have to imagine that that happened Saturday, the latest, right? And because then by Sunday morning, the guy who had to put together a rag tag team to do the paving, he didn't interview and spoke about it and said he was told that the instructions were coming down from the governor of Utah and Kashmir tell us of us. Probably a guy that would have been in the soil.

I'm, you know, I've taken a long time to get to a place where I wanted to put forth a theory on what happened that day. I think there is a lot of evidence that they would have found explosives, which, if, I guess the way PETN is said is like, when do you guys say, "Pent, petan, I'm trying to learn all the inside terms and sound like I know what I'm talking about on all the military

guys stuff."

“But if, if a petan was the expose of that was used, and I think there is a strong, strong”

theory that should be explored, that a shape charge was used to kill them and that what killed him was on him. But if you look into PETN, it is pretty resistant, it stays on soil, there you can read tons of articles about it, it's, you just have to remove a soil. So you think that they, I think there was explosives, I think that explains, as I was

unpacking on my show, a lot of the holes in the story that didn't make sense. If you run the theory that he was killed with a PE, PETN, shape charge, then they all suddenly start to make sense, why they wouldn't bring the bomb dogs over to where Charlie died. So we almost, we, I can't remember what this guy named, his name is, but my editor, he were just chatting with him.

He borrowed to my attention, he was chatting with this guy right after it happened, so

I guess almost a year ago, and once, I just never know, so many fucking people are trying

to get clicks and shit, you know, maybe that I'm like, I don't think it adds up, and he would describe, you know, how it was going to work or how it was supposedly worked. And yeah, it was shaped charge inside the microphone, right? Yeah. And then all these videos that show the blast and everything, but I, I don't know what

say I am, what is, and I don't fucking believe anything, unless it's literally right

a, the thing that really got me was to have a microphone on a loose shirt when he's

“up at a chair like moving around, it just, mic on the inside, by the way.”

Mic on the inside. Yeah, the microphone, which is totally senseless. Wait, was it taped to his chest? Well, you see on the outside is the, the magnet that's holding the mic that's on the inside, which like any person who mics you knows, you don't put the mic on the inside

because you get the sound, and they were putting it on the inside, like you, you might do that if it's a super windy day or cold day to avoid with that fucking new DGI mic that everybody's using, no, it's a road mic, a road mic, Pro, so that's just the metal, that's just the magnetic class, that's on the inside, which they started doing, it was a new thing, or it was just a new thing that they were doing, and so, how long have you been

tracking this? How long have I been tracking? Microphone thing.

I actually, so I always tried to approach things with just, what do I observe

with my own eyes, and when I brought myself to being able to watch the footage of Charlie dying, the first thing I thought was that he was shot from below, because I watched his shirt go out, and I, I was, I watched the friction of his body, and I saw that his neckless broke before he was hit. I thought I was what that was so strange, I was like somebody explained to me, why if someone

shot him from above, his neckless would break first, and whip this way, because neckless whips this way, and then he gets hit, and then he, and I was like, so I just, in my head,

“and I was assuming that it was a gun, was like, I think someone was under him, like, that's”

one thing I would explain his shirt doing whatever, and then I saw John Bray, so he were referring to, he was online, and he was talking about this explosive, and I saw that, and I was like, in my head with my limited knowledge on what he was speaking about, I went and I was not going to be explosive, because then if it was a bomb, Charlie would have been burned in charge, and I knew that his body was not burned in charge, and so I, but I kept

following him, and what happened was we got exclusively the car photos, and the car that transported Charlie to the hospital, what that car looked like, which they tried very quickly to get rid of that car, they towed it, had it sent for, like, to be cleaned and resold, which is also an absolute nonsense, that car would have been put into evidence, but when I saw the car picks, first thing I said was, oh, that's so weird, like, why is there a black

glass on the floor, right away, just like a ton of black, what looked to my eye as glass charge in the floor, and John Bray messaged me, and he said, on X, he said, I just watched her episode, that's exactly what I was looking for to support my theory, and then I said, what do you mean? He said, I've been saying that his road mic was rigged, but in order for my theory to be true, the road mic would have had to explode into laying pieces, and that would

have been on Charlie, and they would have had to get that off of him in the car, and so I went, well, I have, I have the car photos, and there's very clearly, now, to play devil's advocate,

as I always try to do, it could have been somebody's sunglasses they stepped on, that broke

into a million, it looks, it's a lot of glass, it's in the seat that Charlie was on, it's behind,

“it's, I mean, hard plastic, 80, 80, I think it's called ABS plastic, and if you watch wheels,”

people are just smashing a road mic, that's exactly what it looks like is littered all over the floor. So, now we have to say, why did his necklace break first, then his road mic break second, and we're looking at a trajectory, right, before he gets hit, and you do see it move across, like, if you watch the video again, without trying to mean expert, if you just sometimes look at a video and say, what do you see, slow it down, what do you observe happening, and that is what you

observe, you observe something moving across his chest, and then suddenly you see a wound here, and that was my starting point, and so I never bought the idea that he was on, somebody shot him from a losy rooftop, that made no sense to me, that nobody saw him shoot him is even crazy, or to me, this is a college campus in the middle of the day, somebody would have seen him take a shot, and so then what added to me thinking, this is now very plausible, was the

30 odd six super neck, super man neck, you know, now you're asking us to be idiots, now the demand is for us to be idiots, and they did it in such an emotionally manipulative, despicable way, which has now become the turning point way, which is the just say God, the Lord, the miracle, and if you don't believe in it, then you don't believe in God, and you're not honoring God, if you don't believe in the miracle of this, this was the biggest lie

with her for four hours, I was reticent to explore any conspiracies about her, I was slow to do it,

because first and foremost, she's the mother of Charlie's kids, that's first and foremost,

secondly, it required me to have to go through a second stage of grief that I was not ready to do, I had a very hard time at Charlie's death, still do, but to be the person that Charlie was speaking to so much about how much she wanted love, to when I had to take time off and just go to Wyoming and try to get my head right after it, I read through all of our messages, you know, and so I had I relived it all, and because you just, you know, I was in a phase of denial, I was really at that phase

where I was hoping, and I went through bargaining, I went through anger, I went through a very

“aggressive stage of denial, and I think my husband was realizing that I needed to get away at that point,”

because I was trying to say, no, maybe he's really alive, maybe they put him in witness protection, like that's that bargaining, and then also the denial, that's just in my face. And when I got out there, I was reading the messages, and before she came into his life, and Charlie just really, really, really wanted love, right? That was like it, and it was almost like poetic, this up, and he was writing about how how love could kind of make men move mountains.

And so for me to have to mourn him, and then have to consider that the thing that he wanted most, like he didn't get, it just got it me, it got it me, and so, but I couldn't deny it anymore. I couldn't deny it, and it was beyond intuition, it was beyond her being weird, it was beyond her being at the office, and then I got the zoom calls, my assumption was that she was grieving like I was, and my assumption, I didn't know she was in the office the next week, as soon as she got back,

she just wanted to show it to the office. And she was in the office the next week, as soon as she gave that speech to the podium that you saw,

where she addressed the nation, not the I for give them speech, but like the first one,

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“her, like, Reven is dead body. I was like, what the fuck is this? What is that?”

Yep. And then... Using your dead husband is a fucking social media post. And beyond that, and again, me ignoring it, ignoring all of it, and then it was just actually on the day that your husband gets shot. You didn't have a single one of your family members go with you? That one family member or friend went with Erica to Utah. Wow. She went with the person that's holding her in the photo. When his body's coming off

there, for what? Could you imagine not having your mom, your brother, your sister, your cousin, your best friend? I don't know. Like, your A-1 since day one, from high school with you. When that goes down, no. Every single one of those videos, she's with the head fundraiser of 24/7. The person holding her, hugging her, crying. That's Stacy Sheridan. She's a Chief fundraiser. Stacy Sheridan is the one recording her while she's in the casket.

No one can make that make sense. You cannot tell me a thousand times that you would not have a

And mind you, the vice president is offering to fly over. Whoever you want. So this isn't like,

oh, we couldn't get to Utah. Like, your family will crawl over glass to get to you. You go through something like that. And she didn't have anybody, not her aunts, not in the body. Just Stacy Sheridan. Recording all of those private moments. And again, those were the things. I mean,

“I think I just assumed that her family was there. I assumed, because Charlie's family was there.”

His sister was there. His mother was there. His brother was there. I mean, his mother and father were there. She just had Mama Stacy as I call it, which is the woman who's all about raising money. And when did you guys get so close? You don't need anybody else for emotional support here. And so you're correct. That was that was intentionally record for us to raise money at the end of the day. But the lie that she told that I couldn't get over was when she lied about

the 30.6. And what did she lie about that? What did she say? So what we thought happened. And this is, I think I single-handedly ruined the plan. So to speak, but what happened was I, my eyes when I was watching the event as someone who had gone on tour

with Charlie every single year since 2018, 2017, so 2018, 2019, 2021, which is the first time

they started doing this double-mic thing on him. The fall of 2024. As I'm going, why is Terrell there? It's first thing I might, I drew my eye. It was like, why is the head of audio visual here? He doesn't come on campus events. This is new. And then I see that he's taking the camera down. And I'm like, that's weird. And the internet's going crazy about this. So I'm like, "Well Terrell's been there for 12 years, while I'm maybe longer. I know I'm just

going to call him." And ask him, "What's up? Maybe there's a reason and I assumed he was going to say something like, you know, the police asked me to. I don't know. You want to see the footage?" Instead, he was the first person that made me realize something was very wrong because he was very nervous on the phone. I asked him if I could see the back footage just to clarify with people, like, looking out for you, Terrell, I can tell them what's going on. And his

energy was just completely wrong. He came up with a million excuses why I couldn't see the back footage.

He told me he didn't know how to send a file. I'm like, "Terrell, you run an audio visual company. You know how to send a file." Then he told me, "Oh yeah, I do know how to send a file." But I really didn't. I'm afraid Google's going to hack me if I send it. And I said, Google's going to hack you if you send me the file of the back footage. And I didn't accept that, obviously. And then he said, "Well, I grabbed the camera for Erica so that she wouldn't have to

re-live her husband dying over and over again." And I said, "His death was live-straint. Everyone saw Charlie die." The back footage is not like that's not going to be anything. So I knew something was wrong with the back footage. And I kept pressing him for two days. And finally, he said, "Well, I'll face real quick. I'll face time you and show you it." And I hit record on the face. I just didn't know, but just my instincts. And someone on my team was like,

“"You should record this." And I recorded it. And the first thing I thought that was so strange”

was there was no blood. The bullet didn't go through. There was no blood. Charlie's shirt was crisp white from the moment he went down. And I went, "That's odd." So I, at that moment, recorded it, had it hung up with him, told my audience what I saw, and there was apparently mass panic, which I now know how the full story went. This was the day of Charlie's actual funeral, not the WWE Memorial events, but the actual funeral, which was the night before. And they

panicked that I had seen the footage. And somebody at the FBI called turning point and asked explicitly to just instruct whether or not I had recorded it. At that point, just in strife, who is the COO, I'm turning point USA, messages to my husband, called my husband, and wanted to know whether or not I had recorded it. And my husband has no idea what he's talking about. He's not, he's like, he runs the business, I don't know what he's talking about. He then comes out to me. He's like,

“he just in strife keeps asking if you record this footage. What's he talking about?”

And insulin, I mind I said, "That's a really weird question. Why is it matter?" Why is it matter if I recorded the footage? And I said, "Don't answer him." I'll deal with it. And then what happened? This is all happening on the day of Charlie's actual funeral. No one should be caring about back footage, anything. Why is the FBI calling? What then happened was Erica peeled off from Charlie's actual funeral, his wife. And she called the surgeon with Andrew

Cole Vett on the phone, a three-way call. And the story that Andrew would then write, because then

no blood." And then the surgeon says that it was a miracle. And remember this ridiculous tweet,

“Charlie ate really healthy. And this, normally it would have taken down a moose.”

But he really was the man of steel. And this is like a modern day Christian miracle. I mean, total Slop for the masses. And everyone then went, "What the f, it didn't go through like you're confirming this didn't go through some things wrong here." Right? When I asked Erica about this, and I had to know about this thing that happened at the funeral. I asked her, "Why did Andrew send this tweet?" And she said to me, "He went rogue." I didn't know he sent the tweet.

I said, " Andrew went rogue." And she said, "Call the surgeon." I said, "The surgeon spoke to Andrew without your permission." And she said, "Yeah." I said, "So the surgeon to the highest profile assassination since JFK violated HIPAA went rogue." Spoked to some random PR guy, he doesn't know, who also went rogue. And then at the conclusion of his conversation, Andrew tweeted something without your permission and went rogue again. And she said, "Yeah."

And then I got the information that she completely lied. That did figure that out. A source.

That she was the one initiated the phone call, and Andrew was on it, and that the surgeon never

said that. What was put online? In fact, that's largely embarrassing to a surgeon because you're saying he violated HIPAA, right? And he's niddy-it. Like he's niddy-it. Like it's a modern-day miracle. Not only that, but it's not the surgeon's job. So what happened was she said to the surgeon, allegedly, how can we explain the people that the, you know, the third, 30, got six didn't go through. And the surgeon doesn't know what's anything about whether a surgeon had six. He is a hunter,

he hunts, and he said, "I don't know." Like, you know, maybe he was a frangible bullet or something. I don't, I have no idea. And he's going off of them saying it was a 30, on six. And at that point, Erica offered an explanation. And she said, "Well, my baby, you know, he aged so healthy, and I'm sure it's like he had a man of steel neck because he aged so well." How the, so, wasn't there a picture of Robinson standing at a dairy queen, like in front of a poster that said

man of steel? Yeah. Which actually was in theaters, and so that was like weird. But Erica is that, that, that, that quotation and that explanation came from Erica as she was trying to pull and excuse out of the surgeon, which somehow got elevated to the number one priority on the day of her husband's actual funeral. They were stressed out that the public had learned that the bullet didn't go through. Why would you be stressed out about that? I would be mourning by life or who, who,

my significant other, you know, I wouldn't be trying. So, what is, what is, what is, what do you

“think is going on? I mean, who is Tyler Robinson? What the fuck was he doing there?”

I mean, he think is behind this. I don't do things. Tyler Robinson was there. You don't think he was there? I think he's a total patsy. I think they get look alike. And they got everybody wearing the same outfit. I think he played a role, and I believe that what he did was he picked up clothes, and he dumps them behind the dairy queen. I think he had a role. But I do not believe that Tyler Robinson is the person who was walking in that staircase. I do not believe the person

walking in the staircase was even the person that we saw running off of the roof. I don't even know what day that person was running off the roof. Because there are there's only one eyewitness to him having been on the roof. And the person who says that he saw him crouching low. The person that shared the video of the guy in the roof was like, look up here.

Somebody just got up there. I spoke to that individual. And he never saw a shot fired.

Never saw the a shot fired. Knows about weapons. And finds it really unusual that the prosecution hasn't reached out to him. So I don't know what happened. I just know what didn't happen. And I feel confident stating that Tyler Robinson did not kill murder Charlie Kirk, whether or

“not he was an accessory to the crime. Do I believe he was that dairy queen dropping off clothes?”

Yeah, how did he get mixed up in that? I don't know. Maybe he was blackmailed. Maybe he got into involved in some weird stuff online. That's the easiest way for the fed sub-blackmail someone. I think his roommate is a federal asset. Lance Twigs. The person. Do you think that? Because the police didn't even question him. Which is the bonkers? Yeah. Lance Twigs. I spoke to Lance Twigs. His family.

down for a few hours and let him go. And they said he has he's involved in a lot of bad stuff. He lived with them for a little bit that he's into weird categories of pornography as well.

And so they were shocked that the police just had never had any interest in Lance Twigs.

And he is crucial to the story that they're trying to tell is the roommate. If you're dating if they're in a gay relationship and you're dating him, you would have access to his guns. You would have access to you could easily set up somebody that you're dating. And

“that's what my gut tells me. His Lance Twigs was a federal asset. Is a federal asset?”

Shit. Who was the guy? Wasn't there a guy that said he did it? There was also at 9/11 or something. Oh, I call him decoy boy number one. George Zinn. What would the

fuck is that? So George Zinn instantly gets up. Says he did it. His pants fall and people are

recording him and it creates just a bit of a distraction. What I have on authority from the hospital that he went to after. He he went to the hospital to get treated for some mild injuries. Is that he told the nurses that he was paid to do it. But he didn't know where the money was coming from. And this guy was also in New York. We're not 11/11. I don't know if he was in New York or but he has he has some story about 9/11. Some weird connection. Some very weird connection.

Yeah. I don't know exactly what it is. Can't remember a good. No, you're correct.

“But that's what he told the nurses that day that he was paid to do that. We didn't know who exactly”

was paying him or something. He was going to be paid for that. Do you think he was killed because he was going to get scissor. One thousand percent. Why him? A lot. You go get scissor. Why not you? Why are you still here? I think if Andrew Colbert is to believe he believed he told me it was supposed to be me which was an interesting thing to say. What? Andrew Colbert said to me a few days after the assassination and at the moment I just took it as poorly expressed grief. I know because I

didn't find Andrew to be suspicious because I just didn't. My mind wasn't there but he said to me on the phone it was supposed to be you for Betham. Are you serious? But I thought that was just he was crying. I was crying. He would generally say it was supposed to be you. It was supposed to be you. So I have questions about that now. Given everything that happened and we'll lead up to that.

“I think Charlie, I think Charlie knew something. I think the biggest question that has not been”

answering all of this is what happened at the Hamptons when BB Netanyahu called? I don't know about this. So it was a couple of weeks for Charlie died. We'll August 5th and 6th. He did a summit at Bill Akman's house or Bill Akman was kind of hosting a bunch of pro-Israel people and Charlie was pressed on his view, his changing views and he was pressed by Seth Dylan. People voices were raised and he wanted to know why he's not you know why you can't criticize

BB Netanyahu and happy called anti-Semitic. There was a smaller dinner that took place and Bill Akman, Erica was present and BB Netanyahu called. Now, when I was told directly from Andrew Cole that which Erica didn't know that my source of Sandra Cole but on this she was surprised in person when I told this was that BB offered to take training point USA to the next level and Charlie said no. An exchange for what?

Also, how does an organization that's pulling in 150 million a year? What is the next level?

It's a lot of money, 100 million a year. An exchange for what? Do you think he in exchange for him pledging to preach free marketing capitalism? So at the moment that you refuse and offer from man that deranged, that psychopathic, that blood thirsty, you much power. You know something. You know obviously has 16% of the enormous amount of influence over the current of

administration. Correct. I mean a enormous amount of influence. It's pretty fucking off. It's everybody seeing it. An exchange for what? I'll take your company to the next level.

And Erica, when I asked her about that and she admitted the BB Netanyahu call happened

“because she was there and she said, oh he was just calling because Charlie had written him a letter in”

May and it's just so stupid. So stupid. Oh, he's not busy. He just was calling and say, hey, two adults. I just wanted to know how you're doing. I saw your letter. Thanks for it. He was, I said, that's it. Okay. So I'm supposed to believe Andrew lied about that. That he offered to take it to the next level and she was coming to say no. That that didn't happen. He just wanted to just check it with Charlie. That's not true. She's lying and I know she's lying because

then somebody in Andrew Colbert's family orbit reached out to me and said that that definitively

happened because Andrew said that when Charlie said no, he lost millions. Andrew Colbert lost millions when Charlie said no. I wonder how does a PR guy lose millions? He's a spokesperson for turning point USA and then I had to remind myself that he owns a piece of Charlie Kirk Show. Right? So I don't know if it was going to be via the Charlie Kirk Show, which was at that moment with Salem. Salem has recently filed, you know, under Farrah, working with that faith by works and the whole

thing in Salem is a part of that filing. So they are effectively foreign agents. I don't know how it that money was going to come in. That's another question that if we had any real journalists, they would be exploring that. But yeah, BB-9 Yahu calling and Charlie not just refusing it, but he had anger towards BB. He did and how do you know? Because BB-9 Yahu that month did a ton of shows very strange, by the way, that a prime minister of Israel suddenly hitting the orbits. It doing

PR. He did a ton of shows. I mean Patrick, but David Show, Brandon Tatum Show, and he hadn't before that done any sort of podcasting since he was like Hawking his book, you know, like years ago. He didn't do Charlie Kirk Show because Charlie didn't want to have a month. Again, something told to me as a fact by Andrew Colbert, Charlie refused to happy me and Yahu

“want to show. So if you want to know how Charlie was feeling about Israel and BB-9 Yahu, there's”

a answer. How people couldn't see the Israel thread in this doesn't make any sense to me. I can't believe he said it was supposed to be you. He did. Does that scare you? I mean, you seem fearless. We're all here for a blip and I think it's not about not having any fears about what scares me more. What scares me more is considering the world that our children will inherit if we say quiet because we feel it right now. We feel the squeeze. We feel the evil.

We feel the cloud. It's there and you have a bunch of people who whether it's for money or for fear are allowing it to happen. And there are so many historical lessons about what can happen to a country when good men do nothing. And so what scares me is thinking about what's going to be like in America when my children are my age because I was too scared to say something when Charlie Kirk

was publicly assassinated and the most powerful people in the country colluded to lie about it.

If Charlie Kirk was not safe in the United States of America, nobody is.

“Do you feel this is your responsibility to figure out what happened and to keep the investigation going?”

I don't know if it's like my, I don't know if responsibility would be the word that I would use. I just, I just know that it's a part of my journey. I know that it's not a coincidence. That Charlie kept telling me he was going to die on that he had really, really deep visions about his death in 2018. Very specific visions about the fact that he was going to die on and that he knew that I would be the one to fight. You know, there are things that we don't understand for

not meant to understand them, right? But there is something that is moving me that feels bigger than me.

you need to get some sleep. You're probably just tired. No, you're not going to die on.

You know, my death is going to be tied to turning point USA from the moment I signed on the dotted line.

“He said he said he has the dream, he had the dreams repeatedly. What were their dreams?”

And he was going to die on that he was going to die in a very tragic way. And that his death would be tied to like saving the world, waking up the world about something. And at the time, I just, I didn't, I mean, what do you say with that, right? Well, if you were if I was like, okay, sure, give me a plan. What would you like me do when you

die on like, what were they going to say? When I read it back at haunting, it haunts me. And it

haunts me because now in the way that he was dreaming in 2018, I have had the most vivid dream since he's died. And I don't discount them. I know there is just something spiritually pulling me. And guiding me in ways I don't really understand. And so I just, I just give into that. There, it's like he went out and I, something awakened in me. I mean, when you're talking about evil prevails, one good man do nothing. Do you think that

“I think about this all the time, too? It's one of my favorite quotes. I feel it's part of me”

feels like it's some responsibility to do what I do. Just like you do, I think. And but how much impact do you think you can really make? You know, I try not to stop and measure my impact. I know that every day when I wake up and where I decide what I want to cover, I am doing it out of a unique passion, a care. And something is motivating me. That's real. And I think people respond to that. And it's made

a difference. Charlie is trending every day. He's trending every day. And that's not what they wanted. They wanted everyone to stop talking about him. The moment Erica and Trump hugged on stage at the memorial. And she said, I forget him. That was supposed to be the end. That was so weird, too.

“It was weird. Everything was weird. Everything has been strange. Most of all is wife.”

And watching this almost subhuman answer that they are trying to provide, which is what we have money. We have power, so just get in line. That's going to be the cure here for all the skepticism. It's just to apply more money, more influencers, more attacks on the people who are looking into it. I mean, turning point you were saying attacking Joe Kent. I mean, it's just for trying to investigate whether there could have been any foreign ties. Think about how bizarre that is.

Well, I know. And what's more bizarre is that they don't recognize it as bizarre when they do it. What's wrong with these people? The social IQ there is something that disturbs me. Their inability to understand that what they're doing is going to register to the public as remarkably suspicious. Case in point, did no one tell you that you shouldn't be on a zoom call laughing about emoji. Six days after your husband got killed. Someone has to tell you that.

What has been rinsed out of you that you don't recognize that there's something deeply wrong with that to get on to a zoom call 11 days after he's been assassinated and say we're moving on with turning point 2.0. My husband is dead not to be more everybody's dead. That's that's acceptance. Do you think that she had something to do with it? She was complicit or I mean, we were talking about this earlier. I came here from Boca Raton for it. It's a shallowest

fucking place on the planet. You see, 19-year-old girls with 76-year-old men every single day, plant Hanselhockey and more, you know. That's just what that place is. Do you think that maybe she, when they met, she was, you know, she just saw a paycheck and she's an narcissist and had no feelings, no love, no nothing for them just.

Want to do marry into a guy who's making $150 million a year.

Even if everything you just said was true, she was motivated by money to marry him, shouldn't actually love him. Let's even add that she hated him secretly, right? When someone dies like that, you still have a human reaction. So let's, who would you say is archnmsist Nick Funtas?

Even your worst enemy. Even your worst enemy. That's what I'm saying. Forget,

remove all that, even if it's your worst enemy in life. When someone dies like that, it stirs you because you're like, okay, I didn't really like this guy, but like, man, anyone I'm dialing that, you know, that's not, that's not how I wanted it. I wanted to, you know, debate him. I was having fun hating him. Whatever it is, that we couldn't get that from his wife and when I go back because I think I did suffer. My sister said to me, you know, right away,

she came down. I couldn't eat and she said to me, can't she recognize that went to watch somebody that you know, die like that. It's like a brain trauma. Like my brain was like trying,

and I'm sure you understand this, just military guys see deal with death. I think a lot more than

“we do, like traumatic death like this, but it's like a brain trauma. It's the only way you can”

describe it. And so I was not even paying attention to certain things that I now see with very clear eyes like her speech, like you said, that the memorial, Erica actually doesn't really tell you anything about Charlie and that speech. It's a speech that's laying in the groundwork for turning point two point out. She tells you every time she talks about Charlie, she actually tells you about how great she is, how much he loved her, how he wrote her notes, how he wanted her to take

over turning point, you must say. And she didn't write the speech. I learned that because they fired a bunch of people. She didn't write the speech. Erica doesn't write her on speeches. The idea of not writing the uology, and that's why we don't learn anything about them, that we couldn't find on Wikipedia. There was no substance. There was no substance. Who was Charlie outside

“turning point, you were saying you can't find out in that speech? All Charlie wanted was turning point”

you were saying two point out. Turning point, turning point. He cared about the students. He cared about looking after men like Tyler Robinson. I forgive him. This is what turning point all about turning point, turning point. How many times they say turning point? I mean, even at her podium speech, in I felt weird about it the first time when she'd de 48 hours after where she said,

you want to help. Here's what you can do. Go to turning pointusa.com. I don't know where an ad read.

The first time she addresses the nation, go to turning pointusa.com. I can't even stomach the idea of being able to say something like that, but her whole idea is that this is what he wanted. You wanted your money to go to turn pointusa, and then you can contrast it with Vanessa's speech, Vanessa Bryant's speech. You see what a grieving widow looks like. You listen to the story she told. I rewatched her speech and I couldn't get through it because I loved Kobe. I love Kobe Bryant.

I loved Kobe on the court. I loved he was amazing. I already did. I loved, but how weird if she had given a speech of like he dribbled every single day. What he loved was the lakers. And if you want to support the lakers in support, she said, we didn't even know Kobe. I got to get through her speech. You realize you didn't know Kobe. I loved Kobe who he was in the court. This is her husband and she knew Kobe. And she shared that with us in her urology. Vanessa Bryant,

like who he was the father, who he was, what he like, who he was at home. And you realize there's no humanity in Erica's speech. She doesn't want you to think of Charlie. Is anything other than a vehicle for turning pointusa? And he was so much more than that. He was so

“much more than that. And I think that's why in retrospect, people watched my show. And people”

like Tila Loren said, why do I feel like she tweeted, why do I feel like Canada's son is the only one that actually cared about him? I didn't even realize that when I was just saying, sharing all of those like little moments I have with Charlie, that that was unique. And that nobody was getting that from anybody who worked with him. They were just trying to encourage you to donate turning pointusa. This is what he wouldn't want you to do. Oh, shit. He wasn't like, yes, yes. He loved

building and he loves politics and all those things. But the actual Charlie was, he was just so funny. Like, I'm just like the fact that they didn't tell you who Charlie was and how he was really good at voices and like he could mimic anybody's voice. And he was just, he just had the best sense of humor. He really did. And everything was just left on the table. They didn't care. They was all about building what Erica was going to step into. Wow. Let's take a break.

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“Welcome to Hollywood versus reality. They do it. Right? What does he do in the movies?”

He's told me if I'm doing this rok. Because I don't watch it. A little flick like that. Right? Seems pretty cool. It is pretty cool. Got a silencer. And another lifetime I did gun reviews for a living proprietary magazine. It's supposedly the best engineering in the world when that breaks. And now we're bringing it back. It does look pretty cool. I got it. Got it met that. All right, Candace. Let's get back to you. So 2007 looks like

he got threats in your senior year. Yeah. What was that about? I wanted to get my first book. It was one of these moments that I think made me understand the media and how the media functions sort of their ability to lie or sort of to create a narrative and in retrospect what happened could have just been understood in like a very high school way. I had a best friend who was

“he was a guy friend of a guy friend of mine. And I think he's gay, by the way. I think he”

ended up being gay in life. But he and I hung out all the time until I got my first boyfriend. And that was it. I was totally the typical standard. Did you all your friends spend nonstop time with your boyfriend? And he was really angry and bitter about that. Not because he liked me or anything.

But just I guess a disruption. And so one night I guess he rounds up a couple of guys who I had never

met in my life, which is why it was scary when it happened because I was thinking I don't know who would leave me these messages. And he left the boys and I mean, the youngest was like 12 years old. I think having his first beer and they left like horrifically racist messages. Like there's no question. We're going to put a bullet in the back of your head like Rosa Parks. I mean, Alicia. It was a lot. And when it happened, I was like, what on earth? Who's calling me? I didn't think

it was him because the voice is warrant his. He had different people in the car. But one of the people ended up being the mayor and then eventual governor of Connecticut's son, which turned it into a political thing. And suddenly now, everyone wanted to cover this. I hadn't even reported it myself. I actually was just talking about it in a philosophy class in high school. And my teacher at the time, who's now the principal of the school of a high school, he's great. Love time, who's like, this is

absolutely unacceptable. You're going in right now reporting this. And so he went right into the principal office and reported it. And then it felt like everything was taken out of completely out of my control. And it was like front page fodder because it was, look what the mayor's son was involved. And

I had never met the kid in my entire life. And the racism theme and the NAACP is showing up

the steps of my high school. They had never spoken to me, but the NAACP has got to end NAACP. So that kind of shaped my ideas about them as well. Because no one cared about how we felt at that point.

to apologize. And they probably rather than smearing him as a racist. I mean, was he a racist?

“No, we were best friends. That's kind of the point. Did he do something and say something racist?”

Yes, you will be surprised how when you're trying to hurt someone, how easily available it is to use a racist term, even when you're mad. I mean, there's comedic skits about that. Everyone turns into a racist as soon as someone cuts them off in a car. A Spanish guy, the Spanish guy just cut me off. You know what I mean? Something like we're all racist when we're angry. There's some truth to it. You know, you capture yourself. Yeah, he's sexist too. The woman driver, like

female. Oh, he's a Chinese man behind the wheel. And so it was, you know, the micro of that pretty much.

And more traumatizing than the messages was then having my compelife completely ripped for me

and becoming like this micro celebrity victim, right? And nobody cared. And everyone's life got ruined in a different way. The kids, I know, ended up getting a lot of trouble. I think the kid that was my best friend, he, I ended up leaving school for a bit in a home schooling, just because I wanted, while they, the FBI was investigating the authenticity of the message. As if it was, I'm sure that was

“being pressed by FBI got involved. Yeah, they did. And I think it was just because of the element”

of the politician who was trying to pretend to send it and do it as if what I called myself casually. I can let these messages. I don't know why all of that was even necessary. They should

have just confessed, but I think they tried to get away with it. And like a weird stupid way,

and the kids ends up getting arrested. And it was definitely not, it was just wasn't dealt with in the right way. And it became this really big thing that ruined a lot of lives. And I think for a kid to be branded as a racist for doing something one night is really heavy. It's really heavy. Especially when it's just fundamentally not true, right? Like I said, he wouldn't have been my best friend if he was a racist. And he, I will maintain that he was not a racist. He did something

really stupid and said a lot of really racist stuff when he was drunk. People make mistakes. It's hard, especially now in today's environment to allow kids to make mistakes. We everything is so recorded. I mean, you see what they do if they find one tweet that someone sent.

“That said, you know, the end word when they were 11 years old. And I remember sitting with my cousin,”

my younger cousin one time and he, please, you know, what's the game? That grant that auto, but it's one that's like it, where there's like a lot of guys love it. It's Call of Duty. Call of Duty. And he literally was 12 years old. And he's in the chat. It's a service that's Call of Duty. I'm sure you have, maybe. And it's unbelievable. It's just like this hole. And he's in there saying whatever and saying, aww, akbar and throwing a bomb. And he's like a 12-year-old kid.

And I'm just sitting, you're going, okay, this is just 12-year-olds just trying everything out, saying what they can. You're going to push boundaries. I mean, it's a part of coming of ages like you push boundaries. And, you know, Louis C.K. did a really good skit talking about what the phones are taking away from people. And it's this natural stage where people want to try out being mean. And if you say something as someone's face, and you see how they react.

And then you realize you don't really feel good. Being mean doesn't actually feel good to be mean. It allows you to kind of edit yourself as a human being. And things are really easy when you add technology as a layer. It's easy to tweet something stupid. It's easy to say something vicious in the comment section. And we're now dealing with a generation of kids who are growing up terminally online. Whereas when I was growing up, my dad had a beeper. And so I don't have to

think about the record where I'm sure I experimented with being mean in middle school. And social media has added another dynamic to it. So I kind of reflected on that. And again, don't regret any of the lessons from it. But I really do think that it's just seeing the obsession to politicize and the NAACP and the democratic mayor looking to like try to cover this up. It kind of gave me an early introduction to what politics says, which is not really about solutions. But so right through

all that shit, it 17 years ago. Yeah. Well, I lived it. And it didn't help me. And so also even just the politics of victimhood, this is a victim. Like who wants to be a victim? That's a lot of people. Yeah. Well, because money is made. And that's kind of the NAACP's grift in that is find me a black victim and I'll show up and be in front of the cameras, screaming about how racism still exists.

I am just not a big believer in that, I'm not a believer at all in the idea that this is stopping

me from getting from 0.8 a point B. It's not really my business. If somebody doesn't like black people,

“personally, I think everyone's just gotten too nosy. You're allowed to, when people ask me why”

I don't find, you know, the inflammatory language to be such a threat. And it's just dumb. I find a lot of it to be really dumb. And if you're somebody who thinks I don't want to ever date a black girl or a Spanish girl or a white girl, have at it, a man, it doesn't really impact my life. And so a lot of the hyper focus on that is because it keeps people constantly divided and moring and forming an opinion about stuff. It doesn't actually empower any of us. And the people

that are intentionally constantly stoking the flames of that are people at the top, of course. Does the NWACP actually do anything for the black community? No, nothing. They just find another victim and raise money. Of course, if you're an entire bottom line, relies upon racism existing, you don't ever want to go out common sense. It's sort of like you even saw this with glad.

“You give another example. Their whole grit was all about K-marriage, K-marriage, K-marriage, and then they”

got K-marriage. And they were like, oh, no. Any more letters in that LGB bag? And they're like, actually, here's a T, a Q, and R. Yeah, exactly. So these people are not actually looking to solve problems. They're looking to constantly have a problem that needs to be solved so that they can fundraise off of it. They create problems. I mean, I feel like racial deronatory, or racial terms. I mean, it seems like they've completely lost the weight because they've overused

it, everything in every possible regard. Yeah. And you just also need to, we just need people to be tougher. But you'll be fine if somebody calls you the N word. You'll be fine if somebody calls you a racial slur. Like, we just need to kind of build tougher people. Then to think that they're all coming apart because they've been called the name. I want my kids to be tougher than that, you know. Why do you think they do you think it's for the money, the donations,

whatever it is, the LGB, ACP, or do you think it's bigger than that? Do you think? I mean, it can get bigger than that. The divide and conquer. Absolutely. BLM was that example. I mean, when they get going, they can cause people to be eye-truthers throats warring. They will cause a civil war before they get people looking at the corruption of what they're doing. And that's been Taylor's oldest time. Who do you think they is? They's a lot of different people. Well,

it depends on what we're talking about. There's totally different categories of topics that I

“cover on the show. You know, the biggest, I think the biggest issue that we have right now in”

America without question is Israel. Israel. And the Satanic people who support what they're doing.

The blood first, the control, they behave like a mafia. And I'm talking specifically about Zionists

and sometimes people will say, "When you say Zionist, you may choose." I want to be very clear, the Judeo Christians can be some of the most toxic gang-like people who are part of the same apparatus. So you actually can't isolate it. But I have found, which has been the experience, I think of a lot of people, especially over the last year. This is a gang. This is a mafia. This is not normal. What they did, the pressure they put Charlie under, what they did to me, what they're currently

doing to Megan Kelly. I mean, Megan Kelly, I think is probably the greatest example. What did Megan Kelly do? Like, Megan Kelly was like, "I'm a Zionist." And they were like, "We don't care. You say something about Tupper Kraus and right now, or we will destroy you." That's a mafia. And you? Yeah. And me. That's a mafia. That's a, that is, you are with us or you are against us. And I faced that, obviously, in my own life and saw that. And I called it out for what it

is. And it's, by the way, we're late to the party. Michael Jackson was trying to say what it was.

Kanye West was trying to say what it was. They lived through this mafia. And finally, we have

people understanding that. What do Michael Jackson say? Michael Jackson had a list of the six Jewish people who he said were messing with his life. Rabbi Schmooly was on the list. I can't think of the other people that were on it. And they called him anti-Semite. They called him an anti-Semite, because he was talking about control in Hollywood and people that he was fighting for control. Who's Rabbi Schmooly? He's just a crazy, crazy, deranged person. He was a gnome.

And really kind of, it's just a person that is constantly threatening people out in the open. And it's somehow allowed to do it because of what his father did for the state of Israel. And often you will find that thread of the people who are the most arranged and the most psychopath, they can get somehow seem to be allowed to function in society. You just have to figure out who their parents were, who their uncles were, and they've done something for the state of Israel.

So they're like in the designist mafia as I describe it. It is a mafia. There's no question in my life.

“It's in my mind that it is a gang. What was Kanye said?”

Well, Kanye, you know, he notoriously tweeted that he was going to go defcon three on some Jewish people that had been toying with his life. And nobody cared when he drops the actual text messages

from his trainer, Harley Pasternik, saying that he would put him back in the hospital and he'd never

be able to see his kids again. He drops the messages. We talk about a gangster threat. Like, here's how it's going to go. Harley Pasternik is a trainer. And Kanye was basically, before I was awake to this possibility, I was very much around him when this was all going down. When he tweeted this and when Adidas pulled his contract, he was at my house and all the stuff that was going on. And he was basically, I had no idea what he was talking about. I was like

very green to this concept of someone saying that their life was a Truman show.

“And he was like, basically, like, are you a real person? Like, even to me? Are you a real person?”

Like, then I'm like, are you good? Like, what do you mean? Like, you think I'm a character in a show that's, are you real? He was going through this. And at its core is he felt like someone was directing his life and that the people had been controlling him and were, he was going to stand up to these people. But Harley Pasternik was his trainer. I've covered this on my show. He's got a very checkered past. A lot of his clients have died in suspicious circumstances. And he also was like former

Canadian CIA, like, like, like, a lot of psychology or something. And then, like, decided to go be a gym trainer in LA when Hollywood. And these are handlers. Handlers are real. This is a part of the onion of the Zionist mafia in my view. Is the handlers who are supposed to see if they can bring you back to the side of reason? Can't you see the error of your ways? And even when you're completely right, their job is to gaslight you and the thinking that you're wrong. And I've had my

experience. I believe that I had handlers and didn't recognize it. But Kanye, when he kind of really woke up to that, um, Harley Pasternik, he shared the message that Harley Pasternik is trainer, gym trainer wrote to him. And he said, you know, here's how it's going to go. Maybe he said, you're going to say sorry or something, something. And then the message reads, or I'll take you back to Cedar Sinai because Harley Pasternik is the one that got Kanye put on a site with the one 50

hole when they drummed him. And he said, and we'll take you back to, I think he described it as

La La Land. And he said, and play dates with your kids will never be the same. We'll talk you out of

your mind. It's really shit. It's in writing. And then we just let it go. And said Kanye was crazy. I said, no Harley Pasternik's crazy. Who the hell is this man? It's not how Jim Trainer talks. Who is this guy? Holy shit. And so when stars, Hollywood stars have been screaming and trying to tell you that something is wrong and that they suddenly wake up to the back of their, in a prison, the first thing that happens is another layer of the onion comes out and calls them crazy.

“That's how that works. They say this person's having an emotional breakdown. They diagnose the people.”

And the reason for that is because it was a, that strategy of modern psychology was developed by Sigmund Freud, who was a Satanist, full stop. He was into Jewish mysticism, the occult subation, frankism. And he began gaslighting kids who actually were being raped by their parents in Vienna. That is the true story of Sigmund Freud. There's a book on it by the man who controlled his archives called the Assault on Truth. This is a book written by a Jewish man. There's no anti-Semitism

in this book. And he worked under anaphyroid and was due to become the next director of a Sigmund Freud archives. So he was a fan of psychology. He believed in Sigmund Freud's theory, which was that kids are attracted to their parents' wacky. And then he learned to speak German so that he

could read Sigmund Freud's notes and his letters that the public has never seen. And he realized

that Sigmund Freud was a complete fraud. And he rang the alarm on it and said he knew he literally saw and knew that these kids were being abused. That these kids were being raped. In some cases in Vienna, they were being raped and murdered in such satanic, vicious, occult ceremonies that they

because he was protecting his pedophile friends. And so they developed Sigmund Freud's contribution to society is gaslighting. He created gaslighting. So you can draw a direct line from Sigmund Freud to Hollywood, to modern propaganda. His nephew is Edward Bernace, the World War II propaganda, all of that. That's Edward Bernace. To PR, PR that we have today. That the Freud family is still the biggest PR family in the world. They do PR for the royal family. I mean Matthew Freud. And

this is where we're at. It's gaslighting is another onion piece of a layer. So when you realize someone's wrong you and you say this is wrong, they then send people to try to make you think that you're the crazy person. And I dealt with that first hand. First hand saw how that have them off you moves, trying to convince me that I had done something wrong when I tweeted genocide is

always wrong. The messages were insane that I received. I had to read my tweet like a thousand

times and go, did I say something in here like genocide is always wrong? You said genocide is wrong

“and then genocide is always wrong. Holy shit, who do you think your handlers for?”

You know I think how close to you were they? It was very apparent, but it was all around me. It was I I think probably the most skilled handler and was Marissa. I didn't realize until that moment that she messaged me and said like I want to help you. You don't want to go down this row. If you go down this row I can't protect you and I stood up for myself and the messages and I said Marissa go down what route? Like what am I doing here that's wrong? You know I'm a grown adult woman. I know

what I'm saying. I believe genocide is always wrong. I mean this was all be a text message so I still

have it. Who's Marissa? Marissa is the CEO of Prager University PragerU and then of course the daily wire who were trying to convince me that I owed Ben an apology for saying genocide is always wrong. I mean watching that psychological element of them trying to convince me that I had done something wrong wasn't saying and Dave Rubin was messaging me. It was just full on everyone trying to explain to me like let me help you. It's always the approach of like I'm your friend and I'm trying

to help you realize the error of your ways and it's just full blown gaslighting and I stood for a

on it and I was like no I'm I know what I wrote and I meant every word of it genocide is always wrong.

“Still stand by that. Yeah you gotta be careful. How do you hire?”

Well that's like the most I get so fucking paranoid when I'm to hire. I hate I mean everybody hates hiring. Yeah. I really fucking hate hiring. Yeah. Because I don't trust anybody. Yeah. I trust my gut. How do you find your people? Well I've benefited from the fact that I've had the same people on my team for over five years now so when I got fired from a daily wire my team came with me which was a tremendous mode of confidence at the time because we didn't know

we didn't have anything we were just sort of like look we can't give you any benefits we don't know if this is going to work obviously and the daily wire at that time was paying you know a lot of money they had benefits they had no they had security and you know my editor came over my producer came over technical director and so it was the tremendous mode of confidence that they came over with me so they I know that they believe in me and they believe in what I'm doing so I'm lucky that we don't

have a high turnover rate and I haven't had to be trusting and I've just I'm just very grateful

“I think for from to have that and we're we're tight we have we have a good time we have fun I”

believe in seal team six I like the take to keep a team small and effective I don't care about you know appearances and having 90 people working for me and you know I can dress myself I know all of this is so it's a it's a small team and when we do have to hire I I go with my gut we recently hired a new director and he's been fantastic and the reason why he was great is he just totally sits outside of the entire wheelhouse of politics so he just was just a burst of fresh air

and you know loves to research just a great positive attitude and you have to want to be around the

motivated and have a good time and be able to laugh and enjoy each other have the same values in life

“I think everybody on my team is in a really good place in life like fulfilled by their relationships”

by their marriages um so just it feels good yeah we're in a good spot good for you alright let's go back a couple years where did you go to where did you go to college after went to the University of Rhode Island uh that incident in high school happened when it was in my senior year so it kind of threw my entire senior year into chaos and I'm lucky I even applied to college I almost didn't even apply because it was so crazy and you are I was like close enough I just applied to

you are I got in went there what do you want to study English and journalism I have a double major in English and journalism so I think it's quite fitting yeah where do we go from there where do I where do I go from there so actually the story is I had I finished my degree later because Sally

“may had a huge collapse and um didn't give me my loan from my senior year of college I have senior year”

issues I've realized I've got some senior year issues and so I had to figure it out it's Sally

may basically was like you have one year before we start knocking on your door and demanding your first

born child I had a hundred kinsuit loan debt they weren't going to pay for last year crazy I could wax poetic about the industry of student loans it's it's it's so predatory finding poor people and getting them to pledge it's just good to be in debt for the rest of their lives but um I then moved to New York City I had no plan I picked up a job nannying and it was like while I was nannying if I could just start applying for jobs because these loans were starting to haunt me I needed to

make some money and get out of debt and so I was like if I get my foot in the door anywhere I can

“sell myself I can like I can learn anything I'm a really hard worker and my second interview at a”

private equity firm I saw that like they pay their assistance really well these private equity

guys and so my second interview at a private equity firm I got hired to be a second assistant

and hired on a spot which was fantastic and then I would say with that company for four years and when I left I was like the vice president of the administration wow they were fantastic to me I was treated really well um and I got to travel the world because it was one of those jobs where I had to do everything everything I mean is wife did you just say you went from second assistant to VP of the entire company in four years VP of the administration it was a small company so

I don't want to make it wasn't like there was like a thousand employees it was like a almost like a family style trade desk a true private equity structure um I mean maybe 18 employees which was nice it's actually as part of the reason why I like the idea of a small team because I saw it work and you know they were killers we worked really hard and I got to meet a lot of really cool people they invested also in movies and um there was a lot of traveling involved so I got to see the

world on somebody else's dime which was great too because he also when he had crises happening in his personal life he really trusted me to just learn anything and figure it out whether it was building a house in Montag weather it was I mean I ended up with Snoop Dogg and Croatia you know I mean like there's just so there was so many crazy adventures uh and no two days were the same so I had a fantastic time while I was there and um I was there to pay off my suit of loans and I so

every time bonus season came around I would just ask him to pay another chunk you know hey can you pay another chunk apparently chunk and he did I was working for the principal there and so I they also even put me through uh I went down to learn Spanish I moved to Costa Rica before was it a eight week program and you live with a family that doesn't speak any English because he had a wife that was Spanish speaking and so she hired a lot of Spanish staff and I was like

I got to learn a language I can't manage the staff if I don't know the language and so because they traveled you know everyone goes to Montag or the ambulance for the summer I was like I just I found a program can you pay for me to go down there I'll learn Spanish and so I did that and so you speak Spanish yeah well I'm now really really rusty but I did I was fluent in Spanish and I can understand Spanish though and so yeah I mean I really lived a lot in those four and a

half years that I was there saw a lot of the world and just I always wanted to grow I always wanted

learn and um that was kind of my introduction to I mean there's no place if you can make it in

“New York you can make anywhere that's the expression and I I live by that I really do believe that”

because it's it's such a tough city what were you doing at Bogue so that's when I was in turning initially I was um in turning and I did the whole magazine circuit so I did 17 magazine I did glamour magazine and I did Vogue which was the big one that everyone wants to get into and it was of course as somebody who loves to write I measured in English in journalism that was my glamorous idea with that I was going to go move to New York City and I don't know

be carry Bradshaw from sex in the city I don't know what my idea was it was got in retrospect a little bit cartoonish and then when I got there I just pulled truly was like yeah I don't even want to do this you know this is not where I want to work the girls were so vicious so hungry so you know and but I learned a lot I mean they would have fond memories of me at worse my butt off and that was why I kind of graduated up to the magazines and

was the head of the intern closet so to speak at Vogue and made great friends so I've kind of

“I've been a lot of places really when I think about it New York was tough it was fun it was a lot”

of lessons learned and they even the private equity firm even let me take because I wanted to learn a little bit about private equity you know I became a notary because anytime they were like we need this I was like how many times we're gonna get a notary in here why I just become a notary let's kind of personally I'm like I shouldn't be able to look at the testament gave a notary and then did this NYU accounting course as well because I wanted to

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you're a liberal grown up yeah i mean liberal in the youth sense i think it's weird when my husband

says he was always conservative i'm like what's wrong with you he's the rare person who was always

conservative and i was liberal like in the way that you don't know anything and it just kind of sounds better even are you liberal or conservative i'm a liberal i'm a liberal what do you mean and

“i i think it's what do you mean what do you mean before you have bills life is so it's so easy to be”

like idealistic when you don't have to pay bills and you don't really comprehend the issues then you lean into the emotional issues and like live and let live you love these like stupid bumper sticker expressions you see it all so nice it fits your like a i m profile you know what we find a quotation to put on my going away message on a i m you know like a youth you're liberal when you're young there's that expression i got you's who who says the expression that

if you're not a liberal when you're young you don't have a heart if you're not a conservative when you die you don't have a brain oh yeah then you suddenly you're paying taxes you're like hey where's this money going like my my working so hard where's and then you you're you're

your philosophy changes if it as you get older but i never was politically inclined so i never

voted democrat i was just i would very much describe myself as a liberal and if you had asked me any topic i would have been i would have been a cross the democratic party line if i was actually voting but i wasn't what's which do um you know i had this curious set of circumstances that

honestly i still couldn't tell you to be honest with you because i'm not a gamer as i just said

but i was like alice in wonderland and was trying to i i put up a kickstarter to put together a company i had this idea for a paid down all of my student loans and i had a little savings account that i wanted to start and it was maybe maybe all heart no brain a company that would get kids into to be able to like get in trouble on the internet without having these consequences like being arrested and so my bright idea was that i was gonna create this company called social autopsy

and if they got in trouble online they they wouldn't like get into legal trouble and rather than that it would sort of help them like i don't mean to get suspended or something like it was like my way of trying to write the wrongs maybe misguided from what happened in high school totally misguided and i was very green and i put up a kickstarter and i got this weird call from this girl called Zoey Quinn gamers were watching this one though exactly who this says they'll be like yes

“the game arcade that's that's how i knew you whatever and it was really weird because she was telling”

me she was a victim and that i couldn't make this company she misunderstood what we were even thinking about doing she thought we had we're gonna build a technology like a silicon valley technology to unmask trolls on the internet which was not at all what we were doing we had no capability to do this we had a splash page that's why we were on kickstarter i had no connection so you're gonna do that but her call she was saying she was a victim but it was very obvious she was

threatening me and i didn't know anything about this girl or gamer gay and um long story short after i hang up the phone call with her i started getting hit with a bunch of threats online it was very obvious me that this girl was directing threats just my gut instinct that something was wrong with this girl and i landed myself into the middle of a human like huge gamer gates like war that was

being covered extensively by breakart i'm i'm really just always in the wrong place the wrong time

and so i suddenly i sang a Washington Post is calling me i'm not known at this time they're calling me and they're asking i'm thinking these are my friends like i went to school Washington Post that is the top of the line journalism i learned this in school like what i'm so flattered to be

“able to give this interview and i spoke to this girl Caitlyn do he was ready i'll never forget that”

and she introduced her so nice and the phone and i said to her yeah i explained to her what happened and i'm like i really don't think that girl's gonna be quintong with truth because you know she was a victim and said that she was harassed on by gamers and so she kind of built a whole 501c3 platform based all of that and i guess the gamer gay conspiracy was that she was actually leading an army of trolls and that was just my experience there in four seconds you know i had no idea like i what was

going on with the back shows there's like that girl um is lead trolls against me and that girl wasn't a victim and boy was out of excitement anyway but Washington Post after they interviewed me Caitlyn do he also New York magazine i believe it was or the New Yorker Jesse signal or single was his name signal they lied and like spirit me after i thought these guys were my friends and like i was i told him the truth and they were like protecting this girl's oequin it was so weird and this was the

entire thrust of the gamer gay conspiracy was that this girl was being artificially protected that she was actually leading an army of trolls and pretending that we'd had to do something about men and gamers on the internet and this is kind of like the preamble to the Hillary Clinton campaign which could became very much like we kind of got into this anti-masculinity men or toxic it was

“kind of the preamble to that and i think she had a real fear that if i had created this technology”

which could unmask trolls that it was gonna expose that she everything the gamer conspiracy theorists were saying was true that was my read on the situation and so she was being protected

and i never really i mean i'm just not a gamer i just didn't know but the only people that

actually gave me a fair shake in the media who i spoke to was breakbar which was crazy because i thought they were like the white supremacist you know my Connecticut um democratic surroundings blue liberal ish mind i was really what i said to them and then they wrote the truth about what i had said so i was kind of like what the heck is going on why is up down and down up uh and at this at this time at the same time trump was running and so i was kind of questioning my allegiance to

leftist media so to speak because of how i was treated and i didn't really comprehend when i just told them the truth about this random chick and um trump they were saying was like a racist so i promised us all of this stuff and i was willing to at least listen to the other side because i now did not trust the Washington Post and so i decided to just listen to like a

america and he was in dimmondell michigan at the time and he said you know black america and he's

“sort of listed all of the ways in which black americans are struggling like the statistics just”

this is like the raw statistics and he said why don't you just take a chance on me what do you have to lose you know just do something different you vote democrat every every four years and i was like you know fair elevator pit elevator pitch i like it whatever still not gonna get my vote but like whatever and then i pivoted to my trusted sources over at CNN and like done lemon was like crying over and it was like he looked black america in the face and he said you are poor you are pathetic

you can't do this and i was like that didn't that didn't happen at all that's not what he said he gave a kind of reasonable pitch you've been doing the same thing when i stress him a different and so that began a huge man could i have had this thing wrong like our republicans not all racist and backwards like is there something i'm missing here and me just sort of being the naturally curious person that i am who wants to learn more i kind of privately began that pursue and it led me to tomisol

and his work and his books and it changed my life i really uh love tomisol i feel like he's like my

private tutor who i've never met but on do you still consider yourself to be a conservative

i'm always going to be conservative i actually was i always was a conservative i was raised on my grandfather he was conservative of republican i guess i guess there is a difference now and i guess there always has been because like i was liberal but i wasn't a democratic vote democrat um or i thought i was liberal but actually i was raised conservatively and my values were always conservative and i am a conservative i i i think it works i think family works and that's

the most what are we conserving at the end of the day is the question and to me it's it's traditional families i think that's our best guard against the government i think so too honestly i think

“that's almost the only that's my be the only thing that we can really”

i don't know you know you'd said something earlier about you know we were talking about do you feel like it's your responsibility to do what you do and then you'd said you you really trust your god when you're hiring people i don't know man i trust my god but maybe i don't fucking trust my god because the lead up to this last election was just all lies something happened to

Trump right but something happened to all of them yeah well never single one of them who who else except

Joe can i wasn't i mean what did you expect from Marco Rubio absolutely nothing exactly what we see exactly i the person that i think i placed stock in was Trump and we got played i mean there's no other way to say it we got i it's kind of shocking the ways that he lied and so you have to then go why this is nothing like Trump 1.0 Trump 2.0 is totally different and the obvious answer is i think that

Trump desperately by any means necessary wanted to win again felt the election like my people do feel was a storm from in 2020 covid changing the way we vote i totally agree with that by the way and his entire life's mission then transformed into i will do anything to win again

“including making a deal the devil and selling myself that's what you think i think and he took”

300 million from meri males in something that he once mocked Marco Rubio from doing

he tweeted once about shelving eightle sent owning margar rubio and you don't take 300 million from people who run the they is a very generous woman you don't take 300 million from people who run biggest and tell them no about anything that's how it works i mean that you could talk about that in the micro level you know this stuff growing up basics survival skills like when people you know you don't borrow money from people unless you know who they are like and that's

can apply to gangs you know you time to pay up and so Trump is not his own man playing in simple Trump is not running this administration it wasn't a gift it wasn't hey I really love what you're doing here's three hundred million dollars it came with contingencies demands one of it being

Andrew Colbert who were present for that meeting between meri males in and Donald Trump that she

said that i'll cut you this check but i when we want to annex the west bank that's what they want in exchange so now i think he probably has a little bit of regret taking the money i think so i don't

“think he likes not being his own man i think that's what a lot of the lashing out is about i think”

Trump at his core wants to be light and i think he knows he's not like right now you think you'll ever be liked again no many there how much wealth is he a mass since he took this press and that's the better question is how much more do they need how much more as a Trump family need i mean when it went of onka swimming to albini yeah i'd be like what like how much more money do you

guys need when is enough enough never yeah and i that's why you feel like they fully have given

themselves in because none of them were like that before you don't think so no i think i spent a lot of time with don junior don Trump junior and he was a real person and he was certainly a very close friend of Charlie's he shocked me the most after the assassination because i knew don and i challenged right away i challenged him i said if don junior who hunts that's the guy he knows the wilderness if don junior comes out and says he believes that Charlie's next doctor 30 got six bullet i'll back off

i don't think don junior is even spoken about trial assassination since i think a lot of people are are going to go to hell for any turn day i know a lot of people are going to go to hell for any turn day but the level of talk about the morning process of realizing that Charlie gave so much of his life to put those people into power contending with that level of betrayal transformed me yeah so i answer your question no i don't

consider myself to be republican yes i do consider myself to be a conservative yeah i'm saying i don't even know what the fuck this means i don't even know if i'll ever vote again

“that's why probably not i don't i just you know going through this and uncover and”

everything that we've uncovered nothing's changed i don't know about you but for me it's a fuck ton of stress being associated with these people now they have my number they can reach me i fucking hate that shit and then what was it all for this shit that we see do you think this needed to happen what did happen this veil to be lifted yeah i have to believe that i have to believe it i am at my core any eternal optimist and i don't want to give in to like despair

and i have to believe that Charlie was right that his death was going to happen because it would be tied to a global awakening and i've seen that i've seen the seeds of that

i've seen the sprouts of that i see the incredible audience that i have amassed around the world

i mean going to Russia recently and realizing how big the becoming Brigitte series was i had had no idea there is true evil being exposed and it was easy for evil to control the world when we were dumb and stupid and thought it was impossible right things these some of these conspiracies i mean the fact that we are having real discussions about free masonry about the occult about true demons about what demonic possession is that you can sit here across from father

ripriger and i read the comments and i was a transformative episode by the way but to see all the comments of like i need to go to church now this episode maybe we want to go to church not this guys crazy what's he on the actresses is just a movie just a Hollywood movie um that's uplifting

“i think that's uplifting and it had to happen either i think we as a society needed shock”

treatment and charlie's death was shocking in so many ways not just the death the administration's reaction to it the his wife there were the so many shock points it shocked the

could have ever thought feasible i think his assassination had to be livestreamed and people who are evil some ritualistic thing or yeah so for two minutes the people who

“orchestrated assassination it was ritualistic i think that they wanted to be publicized in that way”

because they thought they were then gonna harness our emotion from having seen it so they're benefit and what it did was it certainly did harness emotion but it was not to their benefit the emotional reaction that happened if they could have controlled it and built a conduit for it

would have been amazing if they could have just channeled it as they wanted to literally channeling

energy a form of witchcraft right and they wanted to channel that energy toward Erica who i am i honest to god perspective i believe she is a tried and true psychopath truly and i'm not saying that to be theatrical i'm i'm you know i'm not trying to be hyperbolic

“i mean like clinical psychopath i um and i think that is what has shocked them is that they couldn't do it”

and so charlie's death contributed to an awakening and i have to keep that perspective that um you know deep gone yeah but they did they didn't even look into his own assassination attempt trump yeah butler they thought he didn't want to the investigation yeah what do you think that was i covered that recently on my show and there is a it should be reopened and i think it was a successful assassination of quarry comparatory

i think so the firefighter i met his daughter did you the inauguration that i never

sure of f*cking one to mm yeah well they don't believe the story um they are not satisfied his family's had satisfied with the investigation and there was a strange set of circumstances of his best friend from high school having died a couple of years earlier from a plausibly p.e. tan explosive and i covered that recently the screen that's explosive mm-hmm mm-hmm he um worked with them and uh i covered it recently on my show the firefighter

that was killed worked at the patent plant his best friend died a couple of years earlier

and worked at and he basically worked he was a supervisor out of company that dealt with patent

explosives because they perforated the wells for oil and gas companies which requires the patent explosive he died in a mysterious set of circumstances in his backyard where he was burning stuff in a barrel and something exploded and ironically it is neck and he died instantly and he his friends didn't believe the circumstances surrounding his death i had heard rumors of an illegal explosive ring sort of people getting petting um illegally and quarry was this guy's friend since high

school there's a lot of questions about you know shortly after quarry died Israel did their beeper pet and explosive attack within like two months it was very quickly that's weird um all of the stuff could be considered conspiracy but i think what adds weight to it conspiracies are a lack of answers when there's a lack of answers conspiracies become weighted and you can't tell me that it's normal for a man to survive in assassination attempt and

shut down the investigation into his own assassination attempt that doesn't make sense

“Trump can't make that make sense do you think he knows mm-hmm that's why he's blocking”

the investigation is it him blocking it or is it that the eye well if Tucker is to be believed you can decide whether you believe Tucker or whether you believe Dan Bongino but i'm going to go Tucker process yeah I'll go Tucker on that when he would Tucker and he's hands reaction to what Tucker said it was very strange he was like I'll he's going to beat up Tucker also know something I was like Tucker also is not going to fight you what's wrong with you but he came on down

Dan said that Trump blocked it personally and that's reflected even in what Donald Trump

“Jr said he said my dad is satisfied with the investigation I'm not and I'm going to leave it there”

so clearly the directive had gone out from Trump that no more talk about whatler so make that make sense this rapper's assassination attempt you're now number one in charge of the country why would you not just I have no idea why you wouldn't want to know who's trying to fucking kill you mm-hmm it just makes this is like turning it doesn't make sense to me yeah they don't I don't know why it makes sense to so many other fucking people but it doesn't make sense to me

I would I would want to know who's trying to kill me yeah so there's something we're missing

about butler and there it's the exact same like stage sort of speak the exact same play as a Charlie Kirk assassination wherever one who should be the most curious about investigating is very much not curious about investigating angry I could go that are investigating and attacking people who want to get answers the public's going to notice that the public's going to notice that something's not right like and they're going to begin to suspect the people who report to be

the victims why do you think nobody in this administration speak an apple do you think they're all under the same control or they all under Trump's control we know that Charlie represented almost a solitary voice maybe outside of J.D. advances in terms of trying to communicate to Trump that getting involved with Iran is a bad idea that administration is not working for Donald Trump they're working for Israel obviously Trump is powerless everyone can see that

she says I mean I cash betel sitting right across to me at the other studio and we just went on and on about the abstinence should on and on and on and then nothing we're I mean we're cash betel from he's from Vegas if cash cash bill has ever had any power in his life his power came from that entire city was built by Israel you know Miriam Adelsin has served the IDF

Sheldon Adelsin said his biggest regret was not having served the IDF they've never been I mean

“Trump said it on stage she's more the oil today's real than she is to our country I mean it's not a secret”

Vegas the dangerous place people say what happens in Vegas days in Vegas you know stays in Vegas and gets sent over to Tel Aviv it's just a city of blackmail to be honest with you and they're all kind of tied there they're all kind of tied in my in my view to Vegas I mean Andrew Cole that he's from Reno was dad did you know legal work on the casinos and it's like this thing his brother served it was you know from the Reno unit that went over and we're guarding the poppy seeds in Afghanistan

that was his brother was like Colonel Lieutenant on that that was just poppy trafficking after that we had the opioid crisis what do we think these wars are about you know who what did we win in Afghanistan poppy seeds the opioid crisis what do you think's gonna happen in the midterms what actually let me let me back up now you see Trump speaking out against Israel you see plants I don't buy it either you see Trump and Vance now all of a sudden it's like

where the fuck did this come from it all seems very informative to me and I'm not sure why they're moving to I guess this new act so to speak has already destroyed yeah maybe because Trump's are around the corner yeah that's what I'm saying I mean they're fucking destroyed so they're gonna pretend he's like mr. tough guy again and standing up to BB it's all very performed you think people are gonna buy this shit no do you think Israel's in on the act

“yes me too I think you should take them aside”

at their word when they say we are the directors the actors we can infiltrate any organization any company where the script writers I believe that that's a sixty minutes interview right mm-hmm yeah after referring to you know how they were able to infiltrate and get the

the fake employees and I think about my here those words Charlie in his life and how I think

“it became an Israeli truman show let's similar for Trump everyone around him is just working”

for a higher boss and it's the Rothshild's in the disreal so all of that all of that is performative I mean I couldn't be motivated to vote for midterms yeah many other especially I thought we saw happen with Thomas Massey where they're just so in our face about it now whether like we don't like you if you have a pointing against Israel we'll spend that's the only thing I can't really put together in my head is we see this act we see all of a sudden everybody's

a tough guy against Israel like oh right okay right around the corner from midterms but

I also don't really believe in the election system because of all kinds of shit we've seen Spencer Prats race probably the most recent one Massey's race so if the if the elections are phony then why do they give a shit about the act because the illusion matters why doesn't matter because they need think about if truly tomorrow they came out and said your boat doesn't mean anything we've been running the elections since

being a time we kill people in broad daylight yeah we did JFK we did Charlie in and we're going to keep doing whatever the hell we want so I feel you think something would actually happen yeah because I was actually something Charlie said to me and we were traveling once he said little one of his little pop quizzes what is one thing that every civilization who's ever had that's that's that has ever had slavery since the beginning of human history

what is one thing that every single one of those civilizations has in power has has in common

I didn't know either and he said there were almost always more slaves than masters

and I always stuck with me the few are able to get all of us

“to behave so what they fear is a real revolution that's why they always stoked the flames of”

internal unrest because if all of us were in lockstep from our like let's go kill these pedophiles let's go take care of business that's the biggest threat to the system a revolution that they don't control so instead they create revolutions over stupidity trans bathroom rights keep them focused and arguing about stuff that doesn't matter at all BLM racial strife you know why isn't they're a George Floyd square this is fodder for idiots while they buy islands they take up land

they destroy heritage they rewrite history 20 years from now they'll say you already heard I think Jerry Seinfeld say palestine doesn't exist he's a man of the future they'll rewrite history they'll say they were the victims it all started on October 7th and they'll wipe away entire identities I mean good for the people in Albania who are standing up from to the Israeli settlers right now don't know what their plan is there something's going on

and that's that's their biggest threat so they have to get you to believe in the illusion

“of elections because you have to think you can change it and that your voice matters”

who do you think's going to be the next president me polybarker right now puts advance at the top and then two points below is Rubio and Gavin News some time Rubio what what absolutely not I mean maybe with a pack money I mean you're a strong golden boy yeah maybe with a pack money I think it happened you know I'm not into political prognostications I wouldn't put any of those people if we had a fair system I wouldn't put any of

those people in the bucket for who would be the next president I mean if we're talking about on the Democratic side yeah I think they're going to run Gavin News some as Paul we accurate but on the Republican side there is a an apathy that's setting in and I don't see how advance gets around everything Trump did I don't see how advance gets around what happened in Iran I don't see how advance is able to talk as

we out of that oh well I'm going to tell you how all these Catholics are really leaning in to be in Catholic now because it's a fastest growing Christian determination in the world

leaning into it pretty hard did you see in it I think he missed an opportunity to stand up the Trump on

some of those points and his unnecessary tweet against the Pope I I don't think that Catholics are tough I know this was one group that have not been socially engineered I'm watching yeah

“and they're trying they're really trying to tap into it I don't think it's going to work I think”

people are so much more awake and especially the and I'm going to call this and I don't mean to attack vans on this but just more broadly speaking the faith grift post charlie people have there in ten as up because that's been the entire turning point thing and it's felt it has not registered

it's felt in authentic and sure that was like a part of the evangelical world but there have been

a lot of I think missed opportunities for vans to not write about being in Catholic or say he's a Catholic but to stand up to the stuff that's happening in the administration that's just downright on godly you know you bomb a school with 150 school girls in it and then they lie about it and then it's sort of like whatever I don't know if you want us to do it it's I think it's going to be hard for him to get around it so I but anything can happen in a world where elections are

fake and gay anything can happen mark a rubio could be the next president of the United States someone they can control the whole bassy runs I hope Joe Kent runs he's great I really like Joe

“Kent yeah he's fantastic I'd like to see him run as well and I think he the way that he resigned”

and wrote about his conscience and also the nastiness that trumped throughout him about his wife I couldn't I mean I was just absolutely shocked. Nothing makes my skin crawl more than a fucking

piece of shit that never served the fucking country talking shit about a guy who served the

country whose wife was fucking assassinated by al Qaeda with one of my really good fucking friend Scotty words I'm glad you did it I'm glad you did it because I think service men and women needed to see that because that is the perspective at age real holds of the men that serve I believe that I believe that it is you are toy soldiers and we're slaves yeah there's slaves we're slaves yeah we're all slaves I've had a real awakening about that we have to be taxed

fuels sending our money to Israel and our sons and daughters to die for them and people should not serve I've been strong on that it's like our country's occupied you are not deciding up to serve for United States military your streets are not going to become more paved your streets are not going to become safer your schools are not going to become better there's will so if that is a draw for you then sign up and serve the United States of Israel but this is where we can make

a difference I just need money to run get deployed a green beret I won't even say what group is that and he jokingly but you can see it in his fucking eyes says I'm getting deployed early I got to go fight for Israel and you can just he wants out he's talking about a leave that's simple there's legal means to leave the military and I encourage on my show every man and woman to do it because of the end of the day the best laid plans don't work without bodies and I think they've

“learned that lesson in Iran they couldn't get people to get behind it that's why they need”

the propaganda machine they needed people to be behind it and they weren't and that that terrifies them truly the idea of Americans not signing up for the military that's an existential threat I could see it in Pete Hague Seth's eyes as he's like we're going to raise the age people to join the military I bet you are what does that tell me numbers are low people are waking up so if you if you if you want to go be big bad and and take over Palestine and do it do it

by with your sons and daughters I mean for a green beret to not want to go to war one of the fucking highest trained units in the fucking United States like legit war fighters doesn't want to go to war because he's knows it's not he knows it's not for us and he's not the only one it's all of them it's fucking all of them and when you get back you could be so lucky as to have given your entire body to have lifelong ailments to not be able to get appointments out the VA and if you're

and you got remarried serving the country who doesn't want to sign up sign up today

“well I mean now there's all this talk about the draft why because it's not there but guess what”

you better also better off spending a year in jail then going to fight for Israel so it's like how far are they going to take so they're going to be like Ukraine dragging people off the street like thugs probably that's that's the threat that they need you can't okay you guys want it Zion issue got

you're so big and bad and powerful send your sons and daughters your sons and daughters first

I will not let my my my boys won't serve not in this in this environment so it's on honor to serve the country that we live in right now the occupied country that we live in right now yeah that's all I feel call me if we're getting invaded I'm done going overseas best thing to do is to defend your neighborhoods defend your families build smaller communities

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degree 180 yeah just a blog that I had when I was young I'd less love to write I was always writing

I mean I my early summer is writing was like in third grade I was writing poems like as soon as I could learn to write it felt like and it felt like such an escape for me I used like write songs and poetry and I just still love writing I'm like one of the rare people that actually wrote both of her books and people usually get a ghost writer and it's it's probably my favorite pastime like it's something that I genuinely enjoy doing for me and so it's a real 1080 I got a bunch

of girls together to just put together a blog and let everybody write about whatever they want to write about which is funny because now they take articles that I didn't write but it because it was like my blog but it clearly was written by another person who was like she operated a blog where someone said that Trump had tiny hands and I'm like yeah and someone else you know did a whole article bashing Hillary writing is expression I let everybody write whatever they wanted to write and so

yeah it's just it was a fun passion project of mine what do we go from there from there I then started making videos on YouTube it was all pretty back to back and I launched my YouTube channel in the fall of no in August of 2000 and 17 right I think is my launch my YouTube channel

videos on YouTube and they started they did pretty well it would get a hundred thousand views here which is great for a new content creator yeah no kid and I did this little funny skit mom dad I'm a conservative which I wrote my cousin who I was telling you was the person that was with me the most when I was really sick I was just kind of coming out of that

“she recorded it I wrote it and we just shot it and it did pretty well and then I think it was like”

the third video I did there's an account online I don't know if you know familiar with anomaly he lifted the video and it was me discussing Black Lives Matter I think it was and he put it on

to Facebook and it got 26 million views 26 million views it mean it went absolutely viral and that's

your third video yeah I don't know if it was about BLM actually it was my third video and it was about I can't remember what the topic was it's just so crazy to me but it just went completely viral and then I got the call from Fox News it was Jesse Waters team that said come on Waters Worlds and the rest really was history I got an invite to go it all happened so quickly because I'm believable after doing Fox News I then got an invite to go down to David Harwood's Freedom Center

and that's where I met Charlie and people told me had to hire me like after I gave my little presentation I was just on a panel talking about my experience and yeah it once so you started your own YouTube channel did three videos then you could connect it with Charlie Kirk that is the truth I mean it in that order it was it must be my third or fourth video it was super quick and I can't remember I can't remember the topic maybe it was feminism it was you know just some topic that I was

riffing on it just went absolutely viral got 26 million views do you still is that's video still up

yeah I'm still it's still the same YouTube channel you can go back and watch the early days skits with very poor quality camera just doing it from my granddad's house I and it was just yeah literally me and my cousin and I was like can you hold the camera I'm just going to film something and then I edited it myself and put it up as red faux black was the moniker I was using and it was fun you know it was very fun and then I just sort of started doing videos talking

about various topics and then Charlie hired me to do the same thing for turning point USIM

“and then to be the communications director because I think he thought she's going to”

communicate and she's able to get all these people to watch your videos and we just then had an absolute blast then we were traveling everywhere the entire country other countries doing just building building building building building what channel is this on which thought is the channel called red pill blind I could just name your YouTube channel if you want the Sean Ryan show I just named mine red pill black because I was thinking like oh here's a red pill for black America was

kind of my thought process there and then I think it was Charlie who told me you don't want to have people meeting you and going oh you're red pill black you know you want to use your name and it's okay so I just switched the channel name over to Candice Owens and yeah I still have to say your channel or is that daily war is channel no I had to pause my channel I really kind of paused it when I started working for turning point USA because I was making videos for them and so

you'll see that gap I kind of only made a few videos really and then completely stopped and was doing work for turning point USA and still making videos with making the content for them so it was TPSA videos really about various topics which were still you know doing very well and then had to kind of the firepower if I don't have to edit my own videos and things of that nature and then when I took the job it then I was at prayer you so I might hold on so how I mean I know you and Charlie

were obviously very close how fast of that relationship developed right away because it was such a small organization and this is before they had the offices in Arizona right so turning point was small I if I remember correctly and people could obviously go back to the public company but they were

“under 10 million a year I think when I if I want to say like they had cleared like 6 million a year”

maybe and it was fun it was I like when I just a small company and it feels like I start up it's really fun got a work harder sleep less but that's when like the best memories are made and Charlie was wired to work like that and I just hear my grandfather and wired to work like that and so we just lived out of a suitcase doing every possible event every Charlie had this thing where

you do every single fox new show so we were up at the crack of dawn to do flocks in friends first

little studios you can run to and do a hit to staying up until you finally got the call to do

“one of the big ones which for us at the time it was you get the call to do”

Laura Ingraham or Tupper Carlson we were like or Sean not Sean Ryan I almost said Sean Ryan you see how naturally I was like Sean that's not Sean Ryan I can't believe like not his name now that's ridiculous Sean on Fox News Hannity gosh I was like why cannot think of his name it's because of you because you're in front of me or Sean Hannity that was

what you were building up toward and so Charlie was always like you want to do every show because

the producers for the other show are watching this show and if you're good on the show he had this whole map of how it was going to work and so he never say no to any show and so we did every Fox News show every hit yes yes yes yes yes we'll do it while trekking throughout the United States living out of a suitcase the cheapest hotel rooms imaginable um like literally the room the walls were so thing is a lot of them were airport hotels like I could just hear Charlie turning on the

shower track and hear Charlie snoring I could just there's just just a thing you know I was looking a sheet of paper um let's meet our rooms and it was fun I mean there are so many

just little things like that I reflect on now that are just so funny like if you get somewhere

and then suddenly you're suitcase and then come through and you're going oh so we have to get up at the crack and dawn find the earliest Walmart by a blazer so if we could do the Fox News hit at 6 a.m. and it was madness a lot of coffee a lot of Chipotle so much Chipotle we hate so much Chipotle I can't believe I don't have stock in that company and we kept being like they have got to hire us so like they did they have to like do do do would add agreement with

those are some things we're eating this much of it um drinking a ton of Starbucks and yeah I mean just really traveling with someone is the fastest way to get to know someone I can tell you that for free you you really get to see the person you know what I mean there's no there's no glam in traveling like that and who they are in the morning time you know at night time how they packed their suitcase sometimes you get to a room and his room is ready and my room's not and so

but I'm excited to take a nap and so he's like I'm gonna know for a run you can go up in my room then we're exchanging and so yeah you get you get to see people out there worse and at the same time

“I think one of the things that made me and Charlie so close because I think about why we sort of”

had this unbreakable bond despite everything and if you think about your life who are the people that you actually feel the closest to it's people that you grow up with right like there's something about those early relationships and I think about people that I went to high school with like either something they're so it's so unique and so special because it's a coming of age and it was the same with Charlie we had a certain type of coming of age together in politics neither of us was very

well known right we were very idealistic about what politics was we thought we could change things how old were you when you started turning five I was older a lot older than Charlie was I was twenty six twenty six yeah and I want to say Charlie was twenty don't quote me on this I feel like I was twenty six when I started making my videos but I might not have been and then Charlie would have been like twenty one I have to figure that out but that sounds

about right to me maybe still kind of grown up together yeah but it's so different though when it's growing up then there's like that growing up that happens and you also knew each other before

“before it all happened that's what I mean there's a cross we weren't well known none of”

know neither of us was well known when I started working for turning point USA I didn't have even ten thousand followers on I think I had but maybe I had got like thirty thousand followers on X that were following my video so I wasn't well known Charlie wasn't well known and we were trying to build something and like we thought we could really change things so there's an innocence there too where you're like wow wow we're in the excitement of looking back on the messages

like Donald Trump Junior just retweeted me you know what I mean like he knows like exist and

this person just treated me and so and so Laura Ingram just asked me to our show for the first time

like and there's an innocence even looking back reflecting in Charlie's like by this time next year you're going to have a hundred thousand followers right and so there was a coming of age I think is what made us so close and then also realizing whoa politics is really nasty business and then

like we're going to work hard and Charlie used to always say we can always the one what is the

one thing we can control we can always outwork our opponents we could that's the one thing in our control and we did we outwork them and that's how we that's how we climb and you know the moment of then Kanye tweeting me I can never forget that morning I was just in tears calling Charlie and just being like we made this happen and everything really sort of exploded after that but

“that's what it is I think is it's a coming of age and you can't rip that away you can't rip”

that away to see people in that environment and watch them come up and watch them navigate so many snakes and to earn where they where they are like Charlie earned that and I thought and I earned that and then to watch people cut his life short and then to watch people who didn't earn it say it's mine now yeah it doesn't work for me what was the goal back then what we guys doing well my goal was to change black America and so I'm laughing because it just seems like

my view my world view was so small and realizing what the problem was it's like I'm going to get black America to realize that the Democrats are lying to them about black wise matter and keeping us focused on race issues because we're not ever going to get ahead but it's so much bigger than black America it's all of America and all of us focused on various issues and so that was like my micro issue I cared deeply about wanting to wake up black America and also I was pretty passionate

about the feminism thing too Charlie truly wanted to rebuild the RNC and make it palatable for the youth and build an organization based on free marketing capitalism and showing the youth that like actually it's kind of cool to have a brain when you're young too and to make conservatism hip I guess amongst a very liberal organ of college campuses and he did that and he did that

“that's what it was about then it was going to campuses yeah it was all about building”

disrupting college campuses which had become sort of the centers for indoctrination and we just felt like we could we could change that we could change the world and you know maybe one day Charlie was going to be president I know his biggest goal at that time was he used to listen to Rush Limbaugh like Rush Limbaugh was his ramen empire like really loved Rush Limbaugh

and so the way that I felt when Kanye tweeted makes I was always more cultural and I knew what

Kanye meant to culture for you know people like me who grew up and didn't know if he'd sort of ever I don't know get out of the thing sort of sort of speak for him he felt that way about Rush Limbaugh and so when Rush Limbaugh sat on his radio show like mentioned there's this young guy Charlie Curt I mean Charlie was like made like that was his moment was just he listened to Rush Limbaugh every day I'm a drive to school when he was young so that's who sort of shaped his ideas so I should say

actually two people who I know who were conservative and they were young Charlie too apparently something like my husband I was like what do you mean you weren't liberal when you were young it sounds so much more fun but Charlie was like these boy genius or whatever and so he was really shaped by Rush Limbaugh and yeah you know by the end of his life he would be he would know Rush Limbaugh like on just pick up the phone and call him and he wanted to one day have a radio show

he was like you guys every day day and down just three hours a radio and the grind of that and he

wanted to one day have his own show Charlie and be like Rush Limbaugh and so when he finally did it

when he did the Charlie Kirk show and it was doing so well I knew that he would crush it because I knew it was like this is he was so passionate about building this and it's also why it positively discussed me to see what the show has become because it is the opposite of what Charlie wanted it to be it's the opposite of what inspired him it's the opposite of what Rush Limbaugh

“was you know but that's why it's not doing well because nothing that's not real will survive”

my editor and they're one of me to ask you about the maroon shirts the maroon shirts the maroon shirts yeah about this you know I was the person who brought to attention they laughed at me and I know nothing of the military but I just when I looked at the footage of Charlie and what happened on September 10th it struck me it has highly unusual that there were so many men wearing maroon shirts like it's not exactly a color that men wear

all the time and there were a lot of men all the food were alone my my dad who were once just here Charlie Kirk speak alone and they were wearing maroon shirts and I just said to myself this feels like organization to me like they're wearing maroon shirts to identify each other

way for like they'll have a color of the day which is a way for them to like identify each other

“if they're doing something whether it's you know covert operations or whatever and I”

believe that those boys that were wearing maroon shirts were all a part of the same I don't know if it's going to be like an overseas battalion whatever it is that they're identify and I even saw I have a tape of one person after the shock was off bending down low and handing another guy a maroon shirt which is even crazier which I haven't even uh I don't even think I spoke about on my show they just just hands him a maroon shirt

caught on just the very bottom of the camera and I'm like I passed around a maroon shirt after a shock goes off that feels kind of weird so there wasn't element which makes sense that you would color coordinate so you know where to look um men just don't wear maroon that often so what I would say wow why did you wind up I mean it sounds like you really liked working there what did you leave turning point changed um after the it it me was a couple of factors that play but turning point

like I said to you I always love a start up vibe it's fun there's more freedom and um after the

Kanye tweet and I'm saying this reflectively hindsight 2020 everything changed like turning point was suddenly on the map Kanye put it on the map whether people want to recognize that or not suddenly everyone's going who is this canister ones a lot of the way canister ones things well canister ones was working for turning point USA and suddenly money started coming in they started telling you know Charlie needed the PR person he did this person he needed to get this woman

Stacy Sheridan and donations I mean just like the whole thing became much more corporatized and I had worn Charlie about I didn't like some of the characters that were being brought around him and I didn't love the 501c3 world in general it's my it goes to answer my natural character Charlie is was such a great diplomat and he would take the abuses from the donors the bigger the check the more control is what I I recognize very quickly and that's not a game

“and I I think I'm naturally made to play and so a point arrived where and I'm retrospect it's”

interesting somebody had pulled an old tape of me and presented it out of context for of me and Charlie and London where we were asked a question about nationalism they stripped the question and they made it look like I was on stage preaching about Hitler like and saying if Hitler just wanted to be in Germany that'd be great but I what I was saying was I don't they they said doesn't nationalism feel like a dirty word like how can you say you're a nationalist and I was like

Hitler wasn't a nationalist you know Hitler was like hey I'm just want to be in Germany and make America great like that wouldn't be problematic he was a globalist he had global aspirations

long story short they made this video go viral out of nowhere and I always now go back to that

and I wonder who did that and suddenly like a Jewish group issued a thing saying that I was like anti-Semitic it was so crazy and donors were calling him telling him that like he needed to pull back away for me it's so funny to think that this was another Zionist scandal and at the same and I was so shocked at this time because I had I mean I just grew up in a very Jewish I had never been accused of being an anti-Semite and I you were this was yeah it was for oh my gosh right I mean

“like I was like genuinely hurt and that's how it feels the first time you're called something”

that you're not before you realize it's a political game right when someone's first like you're a racist or like you're an anti-Semite it is so shocking like I had Jewish best friends growing up I was just going like how would they ever say this why would Buzzfeed make this video go viral why is there suddenly this group and I can't remember it was the Simon Wees in Thought Center who issued a strong condemnation and they have a lot of power about my words and I'm like why are

they all intentionally not showing the full remarks of what I was answering to I didn't even say Jewish nothing it just was about the question was was Hitler a nationalist can we be nationalistic without being accused of being an off Hitler there were journalists in the room there there was no issue with it and somebody very clearly went back and tried to find what they could scandalize and I now have the perspective at this was an intentional scandal that was made

whole cloth out of thin air and to put pressure behind Charlie and to sort of pull us apart in a weird way and so anyway so I'm like I was genuinely like apologizing like going this is what I meant here's the full context here's the full video and at the same time who arrived into my life and made me an offer and was like we can help you you know fix this was Prager University a Jewish organization and I that arrived as like and they offered me

I had just gotten engaged as well and so like you know my ability to kind of travel the country and do those things so it seems like a perfect storm to kind of take the next step and sure enough I went to LA to meet with them and this is now one of the stranger things that's ever happened and I didn't think but at the time I was totally just baffled by the scandal Marissa the CEO of Prager University took me to the Simon Wiesenthal Center

right she said she could help make this go away whatever and she took me to the Simon Wiesenthal Center and there was this guy I'm gonna say he was like a chief rabbi I don't know he was dressed he was very much the guy you know what I mean they didn't speak a word of English they spoke fluently in Hebrew I just sat in the room as they spoke and then I went back and forth speaking in Hebrew and then Marissa and I left and she said everything was gonna be fine and this scandal went away

what it sounds so crazy that I did not even appreciate that it was crazy at the time because I just was like thank you friend because I can't believe anybody would ever think I was anti-smetic because that's and so I was so grateful and I thought she was like using her contacts and being because the Simon Wiesenthal Center had issued this whatever and that she was coming in

to like basically tell them it's not true I don't know what they were I didn't know they were saying

what a way now I'm like was it like I'll handle this we've pulled them apart it's all good

“what do you think you were targeted to begin with I think there is and I'm fully in”

just reflecting on the way things went down Erica came into Charlie's life a bunch of people were suddenly being put in a turning point USA girlfriend the Stacy Sheridan she's gonna raise more money and take things to the next level and you call that you need like real PR now I mean just like all of these characters like a Hollywood cast was suddenly assembled and I think there was a real panic about the power of any organization you hit a level and they start paying attention and I think

the Kanye Tweet put put us on the map they started paying attention this could be a very powerful

political organization we need to make sure that it's within our control and I was always

presented you pray for you to control you I that is my perspective and retrospect and I did not have that perspective while it was there and I also want to make it very clear I did very good work in relationship there it was not a I will say they were always honest about who they were like their Zionist Marissa's former masod you know so they were never trying to pretend that they had like they were open to a different perspective on Israel or anything like that or like

anything they were upfront about who they were with the priorities were and Marissa was very kind

“like if she was a handler she was damn good that's why she probably was in the masod like you know”

what I mean like the best kind of handlers is one that's you think is your friend and I she was there for me through a really tough personal time my life as well and so it was that was a hard relationship for me to mourn in many ways because I'm naturally you know not looking I don't open up to people about tough things that I go through and she was there for me for a really tough time we had a perfect work relationship so I don't I I don't want people to think

that because of where I'm at right now you go backwards you know like oh well things we're not no it was like they were fantastic they ran very professionally I had a great relationship with their scene even their COO lane thrasher they were all just great I mean I don't know what to say I had a

perfect she never wanted to talk about contracts she was like if you don't want to be here

“then you should go like it's not going to work for me to hold you here like your prisoner”

I loved Pragerio it was great did that for a couple of years then again kind of like a new season of life had my first kid now hold on let's go back how do you make your husband Charlie it's just a crazy story about the same exact week that Charlie was having these dreams about dying or he was really deeply talking to me about it I mean he had the dreams over and over again he said from a time he signed with turning point but he was like it was a lot of things happened that week one

by the end of the week Kanye tweeted me okay to I had this over and the same way he was like I'm gonna die I was just like we should go to we need to get to London we need to go to the UK no reason we had no reason no rhyme or reason to go to the UK and I'm just started hammering him in April

so I'm hammering him we need to go to the UK he's like for what and I'm just like just make

“up something to be there I just feel like pulled to go to the UK I have the messages it's so”

crazy to read back and so eventually I am feeling so pulled to go to the UK that I say to him give me your credit card I'm just gonna book the flights because then you'll be forced to just

make a reason for us to go to the UK and I did it and I had never done that never booked flights never

taken his card and I was like now we're going to the UK so find something for us to do and he was like well I've been wanting to like build out turning point UK and kind of build up this international thing and so we were hosted by who are now dear friends to us John Mappin and Arena Mappin Charlie had been emailing with them and they said we'd love to host you because we need turning point in the UK and I spoke this is also the same event that they would eventually pull the out of context

comments from so this is December and then they would pull these comments in March of the following year and he got together a great group and I presented on stage and my husband was in the audience and I just sort of looked at him and started really cute and at the end he came up to me and he said

hi I'm George Farmer and it was like George Farmer's pretty cute and that was it never going to

probably see him again next day I had a podcast Russell Brand go out to the countryside book the content you know there's much media as possible and then Russell Brand like went over it was like three hours and my assistant somehow had a miscommunication with PJW there was going to be this turning point UK launched in our were a bunch of political players were going to be brought to the room and PJW was supposed to be unbeknownst to me I don't know if you know who he is is a

youtuber in the UK and I long for sure I didn't know if it was happening like it was not in me and Charlie's calendar we had no idea it was happening I was going to go to Russell Brand and Charlie did some press down there back in London I'm in the countryside and then we met back up to do another media event I suddenly realized I'm told by my assistant that I'm running three hours late to a dinner that I didn't even know was happening so me and Charlie jumped into a taxi

“book it and are like like how could how could this miscommunication have happened important political”

players a nice small intimate dinner like maybe 18 maybe even small maybe like 15 people and I walk into the dinner and George Farmer is hosting the dinner because he wanted to get behind turning point UK because him and his father were very involved with Brexit at the time and his father was at one time the the treasure for the Tory party so they were involved in politics and he just thought turning point UK was a great idea and he was helping his friend PJW put together a little

dinner for Charlie and canvas and so we arrived three hours late to the dinner and George Farmer is there and I see him and at this point because his friends were like mate are they even coming you know he's just playing every one at the table with alcohol because like he's humiliated that nobody's we're he doesn't know what's happening because he's not talking to me and we had no idea it was

happening so Charlie and I get there we don't like this is so out of our character we would never

show up some really I don't know where the ball I dropped I blame PJW and sort of sort of storage and we immediately just went around table and I just had started every single person you know obviously I had to thank you I'm thank you for being here we sit down I sit down next to my husband future husband and I tell you I just looked at his face and I knew he was my it was the craziest thing I just knew he was my husband and he didn't speak to me barely because he was thinking the

same thing like he knew that I was just wife and had already texted his friend after hearing me speak the night before and he wrote in writing I'm going to marry Kanna Soins and his friend who was the best man our wedding was like mate you're an idiot like he read this up and I'm forward in our read the messages and it was the exact same thing was happening for me and I'm saying to my assistant like George Palmer's my husband like and we didn't say anything he was then too nervous so

I spoke to his best friend Nick who was the best man our wedding he chatted with him the whole time and then just sitting here like man I really want to talk to the storage farmer he's just so cute and he said a couple of words and then at the end sent me a message on what's up and said thank you

“so much for coming here tonight and I was like you should come to the student action summit”

if we're just going to be next week in Palm Beach had no idea if he had a girlfriend

would be so weird if I found on my husband at a girlfriend and he flew over with a girlfriend of his and the whole time I'm just trying to figure out like we're doing sass all this is going on and we just kind of like put them in our group and I'm just trying to figure out if those two are dating like if my husband has a girlfriend and there was this donor to turning point USA to stay at her house when I when we had an event in Palm Beach and she's older she was like 75 and you know

she's at the age where they don't care what they say and she's like you two would be so cute

together and I'm saying you're like so I did this thing like I'm telling you I've never done this

“this is so funny and we had the event at Mara Logo I remember the dress I was wearing and then he”

shows up wearing like a comber butt like I mean English men in their suits right so he shows up on like James Bond and I'm like okay everybody stop that's my husband like obviously like in my head I'm just like this is crazy like if you my husband is suit it's just like okay just shut just everything shuts everything down and I'm just sitting here and afterward we went to the breakers and we had a conversation and we just the conversation just completely flowed we were actually talking

about Vladimir Putin which is really funny and we were talking about you know planes and over charging

for suit cases and I'm still now I'm thinking like okay I don't think he's dating this girl because

she was there and we were kind of like you know talking and so I went back to the donor's house and I was like I am going to message him and see if he wants to like meet up for what are you

“call like when you have like a late night there's like a fancy expression for it like a like you know”

to have a cocktail late night where do they say I don't know what people call there's a nice fancy way to say it whatever but I'm like I'm going to text him okay his hair here's how I'm going to figure it out I'm going to text him and see if he wants to meet up in like the lobby of the hotel and shoot my shot and if he answers then like okay there was definitely something there and if he doesn't answer then there was nothing okay and he said like I saw a text him I just texted

I texted my husband who I thought was my husband in my head and like hey like do you want to go grab a there's a word for it whatever in the lobby or whatever of the hotel no response I'm no response going backward and going over this together he was like I was just knocked down sleeping and of course you're thinking a thousand different things and I'm like oh my gosh like no he's

“dating that girl he's totally dating that girl I'm an idiot and yeah and so yeah I was like okay”

he's gonna and then then then the next day we went to to the the donor's house again and she was just like you guys make such a cute couple and I was like getting all these signs and then after he left he called me and we talked on the phone for like three hours and I was like okay like okay but he didn't have a girlfriend the whole thing and then he told me I was just about sleeping and so sorry I missed the text message I was like if you knew the thought in the emotion and

everything that went behind this like I never do this I don't even at the time I didn't even drink

by the way like I was just making up an excuse to see him and it was just he he had he just passed out and I was like he's probably with that girl like all the girl emotions and none of that was happening and so yeah we then like spoke every day on the phone obviously he was back in the UK and then he proposed to me on a plane we had had him even had our first kiss so I'm wondering if he even had your first kiss how could we he was in the UK so I he proposed to me people

thought we were totally insane his friends thought he was insane everyone thought I wasn't saying my my sisters were like this is the most Candace thing I've ever heard ever you know how much time from you met him to engagement 18 days 18 days wow how long have you guys been married now seven years seven years seven years baby number five on the way congratulations thank you yeah so it was it I can't even explain the poll that pulled me to the UK and when I saw him

I I mean I don't know if I dreamed it I mean some things were just some metaphysical we don't understand the world and the way it works but I know I knew it was my husband and I was right so I was wrong I was like no that's obviously my husband like I know like and the way that I describe how I felt and I would be such a hypocrite by the way in the future when my daughter pulls this she'll be about to married I feel like my daughter someday is gonna watch this episode and

you're not allowed to me any guy like this you're not allowed to get married after 18 days

this only applies for me I'm gonna be a ton of that work that I can describe the way I felt is it felt like a sigh of relief like there is like everything's gonna be okay now he's there what's the secret to a successful marriage gosh the secret to a successful marriage um I feel in some ways I have been just so blessed by God to just have a really easy marriage because I

“hear you know everyone wants to know what the secret is and I think it's the secret is loving the”

person you married like genuinely enjoying them like genuinely being fascinated by them um like wanting

to aspire to them wanting to know them every like layer of them and wanting to learn from them

having just like a deep reverence for the person that you're marrying like a side from just being giddy and in love with them and I'm totally obsessed with the husband I just genuinely am and that's the best feeling in the world like I feel like I cheated in life somehow like that I just got to marry the person of my dreams who wears a suit like James Bond like I'm just like he's just you perfect in though in in every way and and the best thing is just to see who he became

after we had kids like men you unlock something and I'm sure it comes from I'm a dad you know what I mean wow I got a fearless thing out and we have a lot of boys so I think there's even more pressure applied of I now need to be the model of the father I'm a father what kind of a father do I want to be because that's gonna impact my boys and he loves his dad and I think he felt the pressure of wanting to be who his dad was to him

and this pressure just created an a diamond you know so he has just I'm just amazed at him like he's just my husband's good at everything too it's just one of those people who has a brain for everything I know what I'm good at I'm good at communication I'm good at writing I understand marketing and but he can just learn any subject in a day and then suddenly fully comprehend it and you could talk to my husband about any subject it's unbelievable so I I don't know just I

“just adore him I think that's kind of the secret is is is adoring the person”

because it's been it's been really easy for us which sounds crazy because on the external it's like just a constant hurricane a constant tornado but to see especially during the year of

the daily wire stuff how he just built it it's like understood the whole never podcasted

understood it did the ads read it the contracts so that you know all right got to figure us out whatever and just I could have never survived that year without my husband wow yeah he's a genius maybe number five's on the way five just been in a constant state of pregnancy like an elephant elephants are pregnant for two years I feel like I've just been pregnant for a long time but I'm I'm blessed with very easy pregnancies and we didn't

realize how much we were gonna love being parents too like that was something that surprised us I don't know you hear so much about marriage be careful when you went married and I feel like there's so much nonsense out there like you're like you're walking a plank or something and I feel like my life began when I got married and when I had kids and we just our kids are just the best or my kids are awesome like I mean they're so funny and they're kind and they're so

smart I know I sound like a bias but I really do have the best kids someone has to have them right someone has to have the best and it's me and we just love it we love being parents the happiness that comes from it and the security that comes from it like they're getting

“security from you but you're getting real security from them and realizing something what matters”

it changes everything and I laugh at that younger Candace who's like whoa this person retweeted me that's the goal whoa I'm gonna do this show tonight and now it's how fast can I get home so when so did this today like texting each other like the stories of like little conversations that watching children contend with the world and try to reason and the over simplification and the beauty of the over simplification of a child's mind it's so special it really is and

wasn't expecting to hear today is thank you to the daily wire from Candace Owen's I owe them so much I owe them so much for ripping the carpet from under my feet in the most glorious way possible

I mean God is always looking out that I look back on that and you just don't you just don't

doubt what God's doing even things that you're like why why why why well you're not meant to know right now Candace and then God just showing me that he just was throwing me a lifeboat now is like the dime to get out of there so I have I have no regrets yeah for you for you you brought up

“I think it's like said what is black said well black said is what I was building alongside”

Charlie when I was really focused on wanting to motivate black people to wake up to the democrat party okay and so that kind of happened in Kanye season and then when I realized I did not want to not for profit and I loved podcasting which I got to do with Prager you I sold black said back to turning point USA because I also just couldn't do that all like I was having getting after getting married and being pregnant I was like I don't want to do not for profit

and do a podcast and do all this stuff so it allowed me to focus on podcasting which I just found an act for I really love conversing with people and communicating and I got my dream job so to speak right now because I get to do it for myself and you did that with Brandon Tadeum

is that the former police officer are you guys still tight you know Brandon I always say

“is he's like a brother to me and I think it's that same coming of age thing he was there no”

Brandon me Charlie doing stuff together building something we obviously have very strong disagreements on Zionism and Israel and how Charlie Kirk died and I need to be able to sit down face to face with him which has been hard just because we're on opposite sides of the car and we've spoken on the phone a few times but like then he's got I'm stepping into dinner and you know I have a very very strict policy about when you have a rural relationship with somebody doing stuff for the public

and there's a lot that I I need to talk to Brandon about you know I need to try to understand where he's at and I'm sure he feels the same way well it's good to hear yeah it's good to hear that somebody can disagree with you and still be friends well it was it was just a real relationship you know and like you know my family loves Brandon like so it's you I think you're a less of a person when you allow politics to decide who you're friends with and I have felt that test

real close to the fire with the Kanye stuff what daily wire put me through behind machines wanting me to like make a public statement about him and I didn't do it and they took millions away from me you know that they literally had money on the table what do you mean it's actually one of the funniest things because the former CEO has just been on like a podcast tour just making up like it's almost fantasy stories about me but I guess no one wants to book him unless he does it

Jeremy boring it's been it's been the most pathetic they I don't even reply anymore because everyone in the comments just like you are I'll tell you like some of my favorite recent past times are hearing the stories of Jeremy boring running around the fucking daily wire with a baseball bat that's true make up done that's all true yeah because he's not even he wasn't even on camera right no and he would get his hair and make that's really totally

yeah that's that is all 1,000 percent true the stories any stories you hear about him

as the loonias it sounds it's all very real it's he's he was total in a case it's like I was telling you a breakfast when I when I hear the still I don't want to mention anybody's names because I don't want to throw anybody out of the bus but it's it sounds like the 90s movie the office space like I like identical it is a sitcom it's weird like you look back on it and you're just sort of and everyone will tell you I mean they're just this is what he

did he get the come in and have people wash his hair plugs and do his makeup and style him to be the CEO just to go into his office and be the CEO everywhere I go people are talking about Jeremy boring and Ben Shapiro because suddenly right around Nashville there's all these unemployed daily wire people running around and they're fucking pissed yeah because it didn't

“they're talking a lot it's a way it's like because it didn't have to be like that I think also”

and it's he just ran it like a cult it was very strange I mean he's just not a real person I

reimaginations is like because no one wants to book him he's nothing to talk about he has no talent he's sort of does this thing where he's just ever he's just been like on a year tour of my worst regret is like hiring can't so and yet it's all he can talk about I can't believe this shit they pulled with Brett Cooper oh yeah like what was how old was Brett when she left they're like 20 21 22 yeah you treat a 21 year old woman girl like that what the fuck it's a cult

problem man she wanted to leave how do you leave a cult we gotta destroy you on the way out I mean they would just fucking torment her every day every fucking day I hope I I'm assuming she opened up to you about what went on legally I mean somebody did Jeremy did that personally I mean he's he's vicious he's you know closeted gay man and he is extraordinarily vicious so to see him try to sort of reintroduce himself when I hear the story about I don't know if it was the

day after you left or when you got fired or whatever and they had everybody come out and they're like nobody fucking chair and then they come out and everybody chairs like shut stop chair yeah no clapping I heard the screen no everyone's like it was totally nutty but if you know Jeremy

that's Jeremy he always has to build a stage and give a performance of everything including a

“firing like it's like it's it's totally it is a sitcom I think they ran around and took everybody's”

phones and shed too maybe they made them gently keep their phones at their desks and it was described to me like an episode of arrested development he like had the stylist coming out and like matching his shirt to the lights it's totally wacky but all the stories are real this is how he ran the company which didn't run into the ground by the way I should add but it's funny to reflect on because he's just he's irrelevant now it doesn't even matter so we just kind of all

share stories about this wacky person who pretended to be a CEO for a while just desperately wants to be famous and he'll he doesn't have it you know you just don't have it buddy you know I just I love watching people that treat people like that just get fucking destroyed destroyed yeah because you need you need to do anything big ever again no and he knows that just why his new show on the road is oh here's a she's a new show called on the road no but

basically he just books media to talk about me it's bunkers it's and how I'm the worst decision he

ever made and obviously the public sees that for what it is it's just pathetic and um but he he reimagined and reimagined me too so he pretends he had because why are they gonna book up like they nobody wants to book up and so he says well you know can't just want to tell me a secret

“store like a secret that she would do anything for money that's how he tried to launch his podcast”

saying that I told him I would do anything for money and it's the literal exact opposite of what happened up a daily wire it's like the exact opposite experience he had for me when Kanye tweeted um deathcon 3 or whatever I had nothing to do with it I wasn't there when he tweeted it wasn't with him but because I was friends with him this was like the cancellation of Kanye they were putting pressure on me to make a statement about him and I didn't do it and I

didn't want to do it and it led to a moment where I was brought into a conference room and my husband was there and both of the co-CEOs it was Jeremy and Caleb Robinson who's a bit he's more serious of a person than Jeremy you know we're yelling in a conference room like like why won't you just say this and make it easy don't you understand like the pressure that it puts on Ben and like his network of people who feel threatened by this or whatever and I refuse to do it I said you know

“I think you guys were fucked on this most people see me as like a formidable enemy but I'm more”

a more formidable friend I'm not going to step on his head while he's drowning and so Jeremy

basically said okay well here's what we're going to do we need to build trust with you so I had

signed a I want to say it was a seven-year contract I could go back and get the exact specs of it and we were like two years into the contract or something like that and they shaved off like five years of my contract so I lost millions of guaranteed dollars and they basically were like or you could just say a statement about Kanye and do it took the money back and so it was the exact opposite experience you had with me that I would not say things for money and I have the whole

that what's so wacky is like I have the whole email chain it's like this all happened with lawyers they changed the contract then negotiations all of this stuff and I was penalized for what Kanye said what Kanye tweeted cost me millions of dollars and zero regrets that's not the first name I am I won't I won't say things for money I I cannot be made to dance for money

and so even if I get things wrong and of course I get things wrong because I'm a human and

I am never intentionally lying or telling people something because somebody is funding me to say it

I genuinely was wrong about my prior positions on Israel or I was genuinely just not educated and I was okay with it I genuinely had no idea it was going on in Palestine the moment I became educated about what was happening when it became a hot button issue and I was like let me focus and see what this is actually about I picked the right side and I spoke out and I said something and again ended up costing me my job so like I was making good money a daily wire I had no job

but I was jumping on to so to go around and say that can't us we'll say anything for money you literally fired me because I wouldn't say anything for money so it's it's it's really weird to sort of see him try to like rewrite who I am but it's you know it's not it's also an effectual so he's just a cartoon character Jesus what what was it that eventually did get you did you get fired and did you quit I got fired the stage was built remember and they it was a

production they put together a video a video they put a fucking video do you know that will eventually

Jeremy posted it because I think he thought people were going to go wow you're amazing are you it's

out it's on the internet yeah you can watch it of the what the he how he presented so all these fucking stories that I've heard about the day you got fired and the presentation I can actually go watch it I can yeah I think Steven Crowder released it or something I think it got released somehow

“and you know we're putting that in your preview you you have to but it was totally like they played”

like one of the reasons they listed for my firing because they just it was basically a thousand different ways that you've been anti-symetic they meaning the the PR person that's in the wire told me to go on the show that had a DJ that just makes sound effects and when the mean the person we're speaking about Ben Shapiro a sound of a cash register went off and they thought that that was like pre-planned anti-symeticism the coaching sound effect oh wow one of the reasons

I got fired are you serious of a random show playing a cash register now I'm the whole shot that but actually I think I actually I was told that it was a funny that came in actually because they have a live it's the Shopify sound yeah like it was like a live thing where it is a live show so there's so many sounds they have a DJ I mean I'm a I couldn't have told you this has happened and at the whole time there's a cash register sound going but also the sound went

off when we were talking about Ben and so that was listed as a reason for my firing how did they do it did they do they it was just an email I was about to hit the stage attorney point USA

because I was on tour as I always am with them and so I was struggling both and I just got an email

“and they listed I think it was like I want to say it was 30 pages or it could have been 30”

reasons and I actually laughed when I was reading it because it was it was so crazy like it was like so far beyond how they could interpret it so it doesn't like that it it only a person who was in a sitcom could have come up with this like I I was shocked they put it in writing that was my like because first I was like whoa what am I going to fire for and then as they started listing the reasons that things like the first three pages were uh Nick Fuentes it was just Nick Fuentes I'm

there spoke with Nick Fuentes like I spoke to him literally one time prior to that no but they had a whole conspiracy that I was secretly working with Nick Fuentes uh and Tucker Carlson to bring down my daily wire and they brought me into the office and questioned me about that close to the end and I was like I don't know what you guys are talking about like there was there was a mental unwellness that was happening at that company and was Tucker even independent at that time he had just

“gone independent so I think this is what like they have a very severe obsession with Tucker that was”

apparent to me when I was the company like I mean I don't know what it is there's something about Tucker that Jeremy and Ben are very obsessed with and I don't know if it's because he's just cool you know there's an envy and they were they had convinced themselves that I was somehow working behind the scenes to bring down a daily wire to go work for Tucker and that's because that's what they did to pray part so they were accusing me of what they had done to a company prior

right they had quietly been building daily wire they then created a scandal a fake scandal with Michelle Fields and then they took all of the all of great parts uh subscribers with them so what was the fake scandal they the Michelle Fields like Corey Lewandowski hit me and I was bruised

Michelle Fields husband Jamie Weinstein to help them launch daily wire so this is what a fucking

turn this is the story of fucking turn yeah this is the story of that you go around killing people and then you're paranoid that someone's trying to kill you yeah I was eight months pregnant I'm a very loyal person even if you don't deserve my loyalty if I'm working for your company I'm working for your company I'm not trying to snipe you I'm not doing it it's just it's not my personality I'll just quit you know what I mean and they brought me into an office and question me

about this Tucker Carlson conspiracy and they asked me if I they told me explicitly that they thought that I was working with Nick Funtas and I just was so confused I I thought someone's gone how much time did you have at the Daily War left or how much no just all together

“was it there for three years I think I think how long did this happen after the Kanye incident”

where they wanted you to it was the following it was kind of exactly a year later and so but it was right after October 7 this one they got super wacky and I think they were wanting me to kind of like pledge allegiance to Israel publicly and I just wasn't going to do that and so it became an issue they had financial pressure because Jeremy was doing pen dragon which cost them

over sixty million dollars the reports on that have been completely inaccurate of how how much

that passion project of Jeremy's harm to the company and he was just he was there's only way to describe him is maniacal anybody who works at Daily War will tell you that he was just early maniacal and he's obsessive and so yeah they built the state and by the way when I sat down with them like a week prior to them firing me and we had hash things out when they had

“said to me well we thought you were secretly plotting and I was like this is mental and wellness”

and I said look if post October 7 things have changed like I obviously understand this is Ben to part of the company and you guys want to separate let me and Ben talk to other like human beings like I'm happy to do that I'm happy to like you don't spend three years to company and want things to end badly so I presented Jeremy without option of me just leaving peacefully we could have I was we can figure out how to like unwind issue in a statement but Jeremy has a flare for drama

he had he has to build the stage he has to do it he has to make it over the top and so they hatched this remarkable plan to Christ as King is anti-Semitic they really say that I'm I mean don't

think I always thought you kind of manufactured that oh no Andrew Clayman did a full episode

entitled like Christ as King after we announced that I was separated and he just like

“completely disparaged me for an hour Andrew Clayman and I was so shocked because we had signed”

it on disparagement and their lawyers came back and we're essentially like jokes on you tricky contract clause we said that none of the talent none of the employees would disparage you but Andrew Clayman isn't actually an employee he's a contractor so they had plotted to sign this agreement we go separate ways but then they were going to allow Andrew Clayman to publicly say something and then said I couldn't say anything back and put it back fired because they did

this during lent and people watched the episode and went what and so then so this is good even better so then it backfires my my hand's your tie behind that I can't say anything or but they still because they lost tens of thousands of subscribers to Andrew Clayman doing an episode calling me anti-Semitic over Christ's King they then sued me for them attacking me so Jeremy which is really funny because a couple days ago he went on to Patrick back

but David and said we had the most subscribers ever after Kenneth left you literally sued me and I have the documents of your sworn affidavit saying the opposite it's like it's the way he lies and he's just maniacally you can't even make it up so but he sued me and said that they lost tens of thousands of dollars I mean tens of thousands of subscribers literally that just had tens of thousands of subscribers over the Christ's King thing which caused their company financial harm

they sued me for their attack on me back firing try to work that out wow and their evidence of why it was actually my fault was because I couldn't say anything about Andrew Clayman but I Jeremy then stalked my likes on Twitter and people that were defending me I was liking the tweets he brought that into court and said the likes to disparaging is it should hold up they ended up

millions of dollars from my likes literally my likes on Twitter and so basically they were going to

get every bit that they we agreed to walk away and I wanted them to pay me out what was due and they were figured they just clawed in court because Jeremy's a homosexual psychopath and he will like focus on that and they were like trying to tell the judge that likes amount to disparagement and a blessing occurs because you cannot make this up because they are like cartoon characters my lawyer gets a call and I want to say it was Labor Day weekend it might have been

what would be before Labor Day I feel like it was some time in August but I feel like it was Labor Day weekend and my lawyer on the case was like in a bar he had a couple of beers and he said he comes out and like daily wires lawyer calls him and he's like freaking out on the phone and he's like she pulled her he's like he's like she pulled her contract she pulled her contract and you

“knew blah blah and my lawyer's like do what are you talking about like you need to pull her”

contract you guys fired her and he's like you're going to pretend you don't know and my lawyer Rob was like what happened like what I can't just do like what happened and he's like we're talking about Brett so these geniuses thought that I had something to do with Brett pulling her contract and they were the ones who told me that Brett pulled her contract oh it was really the whole thing

which is amazing so I had no idea that Brett had done this obviously because I had nothing to do with it

and she pulled her contract and then they could because they were so in their conspiracy mind thought I said I'm going to do with it their lawyer then informed me that Brett pulled her contract and so that's how I found out that Brett was leaving the daily wire on their own lawyer shit how long after you left to Brett leave Brett but she she ended up saving me in this court thing the first time ended up swimming me again and then Brett again they made me with nonstop lawsuits all the

time but because Brett it was such a shock to everyone myself included they then suddenly had like a two front war you know what I mean like they're fighting me in court and then suddenly like Jeremy was going to put Brett in a torture chamber and they I guess decided to just for the first lawsuit we decided to agree and walk away but then they found another reason to sue me again and that was because I saw red when I saw them doing what they did to me to Brett they were going to they

tried the same thing they were going to go with anti-Semitism Brett Cooper I mean squirrel does like pop culture videos and but it's tried and true so they started stalking her likes and exact same thing getting their friends to write articles like what's happening to Brett Cooper she likes this tweet and I defended her and when I when he did the thing with her best the thing with her best friend

“as a way to torture her that's what that was that's how he is he's he's unwell”

but because it's like you don't leave my cult and you're a piece of property to me I'm going to make you suffer and he went to her wedding he went to Brett's wedding new Reagan was her best friend

knew that Reagan was her mate of honor and thought through and here's what the most

after part and I apologize and advance for me having absolutely zero permission from Brett but we're already on the shows so I can't say anything I can't go backward sometimes I feel like I'm not on air and I kind of forget that all this you know that's kind of the problem with podcast is sometimes you're just I'm just talking to you sometimes you're getting a little bit talking to you and you're living room now and it and this will be obviously very viral but the most effective part of it

and I actually think both of the girls were victimized by I want to be clear like I don't like what Reagan did but these were two young girls like you know young and they were best friends and there was just some maniacal homosexual man doing this because he wanted Brett to suffer

“for just leaving a job like hey I'm 22 remember what my reason is I should be able to leave a job”

he offered Reagan more money than he ever paid Brett great business decision worked out really awful you can't refuse sort of a thing which would have been life changing so who knows what her life pressures were or she and this is me being gracious because I'm not a fan of that I don't like cool girls I wouldn't have done it let's take that for free but I'm built a little different but you can see how that kind of money in front of someone who's just like an associate producer

and suddenly someone's like and I only want to make you a star I'll do this and and he did that for sport because he wanted her to and it hurt her by the way he was successful that was going to show that met a lot to her and that's not something this is something you hear like a deranged husband doing to a wife after a divorce you don't I mean like a like how will I make her suffer and like using the kids as a chip in the middle of the divorce this isn't something

he doesn't think it's a good idea you know for you to have kids that's like and so I stood up for her and then I got sued for standing up for her publicly zero grats I actually um as we were approaching the court day I told my lawyers I'm not gonna lie to the judge if they want to know did I do an

“episode defending Brett Cooper and I think he wanted some credit every time they hit things”

me they wanted 300 K for every offense and I think for that episode they wanted a million dollars

for me defending Brett um or 300 K for that episode I said I was gonna pay it and I said I would have um I would have hung it up on a wall and showed my kids stand up for something one is just money and I would have said to the judge yep I consciously mean that was the one time where they were coming after me for something that could have violated disparagement because I was sick and by what he did there good for you yeah that's a real front money is on everything in life

you know what I mean be so young it's just like give it to me you know what I mean I like felt so like and I wasn't actually close to Brett at the daily wire we got close after because of dealing with lawsuits and he sued her over wearing a blue shirt I mean he was he's a total like someone said it's so perfectly online I would be Israeli wire for suit somebody for wearing a blue I mean the daily wire suit for wearing a blue shirt there well it was all about it's all about

the suffering of a lawsuit right it's not about whether or not they can win it's about knowing that she she doesn't have this money you're gonna sue her 100 K 300 K for wearing a blue shirt and so what happens this really gets you into the mind of how Jeremy boring works on her last day they didn't a joint announcement that was really weird and everyone could tell that something more was happening but um they had agreed whatever the languages and so Jeremy did it like

Brett's been great did it and then it kind of cut to Brett I'm or watching and being like this is weird and obviously your audience can sniff it out in four seconds they're growing with you they know you they're here it's called the Grecovershell right and they could sense um that something was coming or whatever it was but on that day she wore a blue shirt as all I know it was it she wore a blue shirt during land announcement and it turned out that previously someone in the

comments because I told you he stalks comments that's his thing he's a true like stalker in the comments had said Brett if you're under an NDA where a blue shirt so he extrapolated from that that she must have intentionally worn a blue shirt which is completely wacky and on track you're wearing a blue shirt if you're not wearing a blue shirt three times a week like we're not talking about a maroon shirt like this is a white black blue I feel like everyone wears three times a week so then he found

the reason to because he he never wants you to leave right so he then you sue and then you're behind

machines and you're fighting them because it's a way to hold on to a relationship and so it's a legal form of stalking and so I'm actually quite passionate about it I hope that one day with my platform I can get lost changed because it allows psychopathic men to stalk women legally because they go while I have a contract and I can interpret anything as disparagement even a shirt

“alike on Twitter so I can now keep you in court and keep you tied to me for years and that's what”

he did to me it never stopped as soon as it stopped he's now doing tours still talk so it's been a nonstop stalk from him and he did the same thing about so it's like you can never you can ever leave sort of a thing holy shit but that's what there are laws that need to be changed about arbitration court because that's what arbitration gives them the comfort of doing he would have

never brought that law suit in a public court because that would have humiliated him and people

would have right and realized that something's deranged about him they realized that now just on the basis of the amount of interviews he's given about me that people are now going this is starting to feel obsessive with Jeremy give him a stage and he'll reveal himself so I don't mind him doing all those interviews but to have to suffer that in arbitration court and to not be able to speak that is laws have to change it's leaving him what's the interest me interviewing failed

business man like he is really wire is like yeah and it's because they're buying views they're buying fucking views yeah and it's because of him you know that investment in his childhood dream pen dragon i he's not he's not right in the head so with someone like that he just thinks he's going to build something and I mean it doesn't sound like any of them are right in the head and they sure as fuck don't learn any lessons I mean they're trying to get you to speak out against Kanye and then

fast forward what a couple years and now they're trying to get Megan Kelly to speak out against

“you when I think talk or write like she's the internet mom or something and it's so crazy because”

it wasn't like Megan was platforming me that's what was so strange like they're attacks against

you to make a say about can't a sound and she's like wait why don't I have to make a say about can't sounds I don't know can't sounds I don't like I don't I haven't had our I think she literally had me on her radio show one time years ago when I was a daily wire promoting the greatest

lie ever so I never done it the Megan Kelly show and they just that they're tribal so it's like

“well because we said so because we said so you need to say something about can't a sound and she's like”

I'm not going to do that because that's a minute she's me as a person that makes Megan look weak that means she's not in the driver she to her own life and then they start applying the pressure the mafia starts to come in and they'll start putting bots in your comments having people stalk you talking about you every single day trying to ruin your reputation having people email they even have like email bots where they can have 3,000 fake emails go out and try to stop

wherever you're speaking like don't toast this person she's a lot of Hitler and just creating trouble in your life and you can see their new fixation is Megan Kelly 1000 bots yeah at events that I speak I have to pre-tell people that if you announce me as a speaker you're going to start getting a bunch of emails and you're going to think they're from real people and they're not they're just bots and now that we can read the farer docs they're honest about the fact that

they control these like Israeli bots in the comments sections on Instagram and on Facebook to make people so the Israeli wire also has an Israeli bot farm well I don't know if they are orchestrating it but I know that they have their accounts that they pay and Seth Dylan helps out with that with people that they pay or just like stalk all day online and it's all about creating an illusion of pressure it's not real obviously the majority Americans don't support Israel's doing

and don't support Israel so they have to create fake people and you can read the farer docs of clockwork LLC and it's totally insane they're just they have admitting what they're doing

“yeah it really is something to behold but that's what they're putting Megan Kelly through”

and she's proven to be very tough and they're also angry at her because she told the truth which surprised me by the way and I have such a deep respect for her over it she was one of the few people who stood up and told the truth about what Charlie was going through in the end as all of his friends lied about the pressure including his wife about the pressure he was under by Israel they lied and Megan had was one of the last people to speak with him on her show

and he opened up to her and told her everything he was going through and she just told the truth that's it that was her crime man what a major miscalculation of your own strength wow wow

they just never fucking learn over there I mean they're going to tank that entire I've been

I don't think there's any coming back from this but yeah I mean would they they're good like

“1.2 thousand views of video it's fucking crazy yeah it's I think it's a I'm about are you allowed to”

have any like criticism of Israel over there no clearly not I said genocide is always wrong and I was getting text messages of people trying to convince me that I had done something truly crazy and I wasn't even talking about Israel I was talking about Brian Mass he wore an idea of uniform into Congress and said I'm trying to remember but he basically said there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian and it was completely genocidal and I saw tweet

from Yashar Ali about it and I was in Madrid at the time at a wedding and I tweeted

genocide no matter who you know genocide no matter who it comes from is always wrong

and they wanted me to apologize it's like apologize apologize to who to understand how that hurt Israel because people assumed that I was referring to Israel and I was like okay let's say I wasn't referring to Israel like genocide is always wrong it actually applies all the time but I was referring specifically to Brian Mass and they tried to tell me that it didn't matter that Ben's friends thought I was talking about Israel so basically if somebody else has an

idea I'm responsible for it even when I believe for example where I tweeted genocide is always wrong I said but I meant I didn't know I had to say in small print this tweet is obviously referencing Brian Mass who is trending right now for wearing an IDF uniform like the tweet is a standalone tweet genocide is always wrong Jews I think it's just they were a little insecure because they were planning a genocide now we can see why that tweet really was like they're planning another one

yes in this tweet that came out I texted it to you on the way here from breakfast this is the

for every terror of an Israeli mother a thousand Lebanese mothers must weep all of Lebanon must

burn with all due respect to the Americans Israel must make it clear to the entire world that the blood of our sons and the security of our citizens are not forfeit all of Lebanon must burn our supreme duty is to protect the citizens of Israel and the soldiers of the IDF and this commitment takes precedence over every other consideration I told the prime minister even in our private meetings for every terror of an Israeli mother a thousand Lebanese must weep enough

with the ping pong in the middle east you don't win with measured responses in restraint you need to go berserk to obliterate to crush the terror sounds like another genocide on the way yeah he's a total psychopath but they all are that's the point the government is being run by psychopaths and

“I think people need to realize that what they are doing is the Palestinians of Lebanese people they”

will do us they will do us they will torture your kids they don't care I mean this is in the pocket would of the goiam what ever all of that was a conspiracy until we suddenly had access to Jeffrey Epstein's email what is going be a cattle cat nation cattle just cattle you know slaves yeah so they are okay with you so long as they say it means nation does not mean they shall ask rock that means nation

really and so they are there yeah yeah they're not never heard anybody call a fucking nation

a boy if you no no it's that's completely made up and that is not even some I'm surprised that's a new updated thing they're trying to lie about they try to constantly bury history even from five weeks ago I saw I saw somebody they tried to correct I think I tweeted something about about it I asked Rokana when he was here I said what's a goi wrote and he didn't know yes cattle so we told him and and then that clip went crazy yeah this is everybody's telling

me there means nation oh yeah nation is a good goi yeah but a lot of boy there they'll be a lot of nation there I mean read the context of his emails but like also that's kind of weird

all of their literature it's not difficult to find out what goi means it's cattle and their

perspective is like to the extent they can get us to work for them we're fine yeah and if we won't work for them then we have to be obliterated they like to they do the grak thing we're like rock what is goi mean and yeah it'll say I don't know what it says but then I'll just go over to Claude and I'll ask Claude what is goi mean yep yeah yeah that's it's a derogatory comment towards anybody that's not Jewish yes it's ends you know it's racist it's a fundamentally racist

racist against Christians it is and there's a real um I mean they're raised to believe

“that their life matters more so Ben Gavier you have to appreciate that he's being honest”

well I mean you can see it all over his fucking face he thinks he's more important than everybody that's their perspective like that that's what October 7 proves they have a right to commit a genocide now even though they plotted it October 7 and that BB Nanyah who allowed it to happen and all the evidence shows that the whole point is that they and they've been doing this forever if he's false flag attacks this is the whole history of Israel is false flag attacks I mean look

the US has liberty and they still deny what they did um denying the face of overwhelming evidence that it's they believe it is their birthright to mass murder steel kill and rape take from people destroy heritage and then reintroduce themselves in other societies with all this wealth that they stole um and say that it's because they worked hard yet they worked hard murdering people and stealing and running the ghoulog system and what's the ghoulog system Russia you know

the the Bolshevik revolution the Roman Ops the diamonds that they stole from the Roman Ops family after they murdered them and say tannic ritual those diamonds

“end up in New York by the way like you look at you you know what you should do in your spirit”

time look into arming hammer you know army hammer the actor look into his family's history look into Julia's hammer look into arming hammer arm and hammer what they are what their family did when they came over from the pale of settlement and Russia um Lenin's Lenin's quote unquote favorite Jew even though Lenin himself was Jewish um they he took diamonds established the diamond district well who who they get the diamonds from in Russia I mean they were mass

murdering Christians so this is where where do you think's gonna happen they just destroyed

see these are really settlers go in and pillage and you've seen these videos just they just take

“their land that's how it's always been they just run in and they take your land it's theirs no”

bugs they're being trained to do that like cockroaches like watching cockroaches descend truly um and that's the only way you can describe when you see the videos it's disgusting it's the most and and they beat these people and they take their land and that's it it's all there's now our experience for your podcast frisches obst and knackelgis Gemüse from Aldi immer gut immer günstig immer vielfältig kurz gesagt frische für alle

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entdecke jetzt viele weitere Angebote in deiner Aldi Nordwiljale und weiter geht einfach lauschen und genießen Aldi gut ist für alle well there's gonna be a big is it is there gonna be a big Trump hotel there now well that was Trump himself tweeted the Trump resort whatever it was of like this is what Gaza could be was most despicable thing i've ever seen you wonder who tweeted it because Trump doesn't

know how to use AI he's not authoring his own tweets um it was it was absolutely tasteless but did you see what what was that thing that he posted about him at being Jesus who was who what was that oh he didn't know oh yeah he didn't fucking know he didn't know there was fucking demons in the sky either what he's what it was that just more of the really gross stuff that they're they just mocking Christians or what like what is this oh they they hate

Christians they're taught to hate Christians they spit on our children you think Trump patron they're children to spit I don't I don't think he loves us that's he's the one

“the post of it yeah I mean Trump's never pretended to be a Christian I think he's been”

pretty open about the fact that he certainly favors Israel why it's got an 99 person approval rating oh he will I think he's also said several times he doesn't think he's going to heaven yeah I think he's kind of made his bed I don't think he's going to have an either if it means anything I don't get to decide but I don't just objectively looking at everything I just wouldn't I wouldn't bet on him in heaven either you want people to change you hope

they change but kind of hard let me just see what's going on there to imagine that that's a ticket to heaven you know but he's allowing to happen it's like he's obsessed with the earthly riches and he's got such short time to live you'd think that toward the you'd hope that toward the end of your life you would want to write wrongs and be a good person because you know you're going to meet your makers soon so that's one of the more stunning things is like

“Trump's going to die soon just because he's good I soon he's in his 80s that's how it works”

so Biden's in die soon they're all going to die soon so it's usually a good time to not be get evil try to get right with God I don't know final stretch try to sprint you try to sprint last stretch and it's interesting to see Trump sort of do the opposite and I just go okay that's interesting man I don't even wish any ill toured Trump I don't have any anger I just it's worse it's pity you don't have any anger I pity him I pity a man who has relinquished what was a real power

people loved him believed in him you know thought that he could change things I pity for earthly riches to give that up I don't know and that that will be his legacy

I always pity weekman I always pity weekman because I just think

there is something so natural in the way that God designed it for a mental lead for men to be strong for men to be forthright and so when you see men that are weak it does draw for me frustration but also pity that's not that's not what God designed you to be you know almost wish I had pity for him but I just don't he's in how do you not he's a slave he's at all this stuff needs a slave because he's a voluntary slave he made the fucking decision he made the decision

forced him to it he's a greedy piece of shit he just wanted to be president and he he was short

matters to him and I don't know I just I don't think I'm angry with him no I think I'm just

“equal parts disgusted I think it's pitiful that's what I mean when you're going back to the”

question you first asked me what's the like having the burn I'm like I even forgot if that's how

powerless he's become I it was not even something I hold on to a couple of weeks later just or Trump you know or Trump or Trump or Trump oh man when you heard about this Peter Tielson what the secret society I got a hot question for you so we had Claude scraped the internet for the most viral question and here it is this week a hacktivist leaked the membership of dialogue a secret invitation only society Peter Tiel founded in 2006 with a roster that

reportedly includes a sitting treasury secretary senators and military and intelligence officials

so here's the question if you looked into this at all and what's your take what's the group

called do they find out the name dialogue oh it's called dialogue I mean my general instinct on Peter Tiel is no his name is an anagram for the reptile I just it's a no he appears in the Epstein files so much after lying to Joe Rogan and saying like oh I just something with some math stuff it was weird the emails are weird it seems like they're like meeting up for dialing and says and all across New York City it's just weird it's very strange the emails and

“I just it's a hard now but also I think I had my opinion colored because Dave Ruben told me about how”

we've partyed with him on his island J also has an island by the way who does Peter Tiel and Dave Ruben and Dave Ruben told me the story that still lives inside of me and he'll deny it but Peter Tiel were here of this and no I'm talking with truth because I couldn't have known it otherwise but him and his husband went to Peter Tiel's island which is in like off the coast of Hawaii he just kind of bought an island this is what you do at a certain

level and he has his house on it and he I guess got to an age where he realized that like he had somewhere to dump his wealth so he decided to have a kid you know got to surrogate whatever and he said it was the weirdest thing because once his son was born they all were there on the island and Peter Tiel is building a house next door for the nannies to raise the child and he said

when they brought the child around the table at his house they basically this is the servant

like presenting the child and Peter was just sort of like looking at the child like yes there he is or whatever and it was like very strange and detached and that you know they partied with Peter Tiel I'm gonna leave it at that but I had my opinions about who Peter Tiel is where it was shaped about by Dave Ruben it's not a guy but I want in authority to make any decisions whatsoever that's a dark dark dark future they just released a shit ton of names that are in this thing

“do you see this yet I think they did it while we were sitting in here I just saw it on the last”

break we'll put the names up on screen right now so everybody can read them here's the follow-up question across everything you've dug into true crime cult's criminal networks what's the single most disturbing thing you found that you actually believe is real you come around across some dark shit so yeah I mean the understanding of the pedophilia that's all real it's all real it's a cult worship and it goes back to like they believe in sex magic and sex magic

you could get into like Alister Crowley all that's real I mean he wrote books about it it's not like they were trying to hide it but these are the elites like these were not these aren't people that are at the bottom it's why I find it hilarious and people believe in the moon landing so I'm like do you know the history of the Jet Propulsion Labs and that it was created by Alister Crowley's Agalite a protege so to speak they these people it wrote extensively about

the sex parties they were having that they thought they could they were summoning demons they were summoning demons I thought they could they were summoning demons and they harm children

contend with that and the craziest part is the people that protect them for money that's that's hard

to know that people I come up with in politics will look the other way for the right price think about that everyone knew what up scene was doing and then he was protected and they knew

“they went to prison I think about this shit all the time it's so”

fascinating it would be the right word but it's it's it's interesting to see how these people think that they have a mass so much power but they really have zero power the only fucking thing that they can really do is introduce a bill yeah I mean when you when they can't even fucking say what's on their mind

yeah they're power less they're fucking they're they're they're controlled

I think that I mean I think that's a way of means to control people's to get them into politics yeah they control congress there's no question about it they really think that they have fucking power well in many ways they find people who are pedophiles already and then they empower them give them churches give them you know I was like shocked looking at the history of the cavalry chapel church when I was looking into like robin

McCoy it's unbelievable how many people like are were formed whatever and then are not end up being reformed at all it's it's a system it's for sure a system and that's not imagined

“and you need to wake up and realize that our our world is in fact being run by pedophiles that's”

a fact and if the Epstein things didn't wake you up to the fact but it's left and right you're still asleep if you think that our troubles in this country are white versus black you're still asleep if you think it's a gay versus straight you're still asleep if you think it's like you know feminism versus a chauvinism you're still asleep we've got way bigger problems and these are ancient problems that we have people that worship and summon demons and believe in the occult

and do it in your face I believe Charlie's assassination wasn't a cold ritual everything happened yeah everything about it and I believe the people around him are into dark demonic stuff I mean when you told me the dinner that he was assassinated then the middle of a pentagram I was like holy shit and someone sent me an old freemason Bible and it showed how they believe

“that you have to be in a pentagram to sacrifice someone literally shows you like there's the map”

inside of the freemason Bible and I looked at it and I said probably what's in the pentagram sorry we're in the freemason's come from well you know the history yeah actually just read a book for our book in our book club called The Secret History of America by Nicholas Hagger really really important read an academic read but a very challenge you want an important one to get into the history

of freemasonry and you I guess freemasonry in many ways obviously it traces it traces back it's biblical so you have to think about different iterations so it's like Solomon's temple the mason's of the temple is kind of what they're hinting to hinting at but in terms of like the modern introduction into Western society it begins with Francis Bacon and Paris where Paris seems to be the whole of a lot of the things that have happened in these in these secret societies it's like

they go to Paris to be initiated the same thing for Sigmund Freud he said he studied under Charco and he was similarly initiated I don't think it's a coincidence that Paris's code is 33 you know if you want dial up to Paris it's 33 it's only the French Revolution there's a lot that's happened in Paris as a lot of evil is taking place but the freemason society I mean this gets into the infiltration of the night's temple our intentional infiltration by Adam Wysopt

who was funding the infiltration of various freemason groups and bringing them all together under the illuminati our founding fathers were freemasons and the Nicholas Hagger book carefully walks you through even the symbolism on the back of a one dollar bill and to be clear

when they joined the illuminati it was after the Revolutionary War but the they were always

it was always on in mind Adam Wysopt was an open Satanist with using Christianity as a shell

the infiltration how the Scottish right which is the Scottish right for me since which had everything to do with establishing America was really dating back from France and the catholic church

“having Jack Demole hung I think it was hung he was killed and these groups then went into Scotland”

and you can just that book just helps you trace how these freemason groups arrived into America and for them it was seen as a new Atlantis okay we keep getting caught doing all this

crazy stuff across the European continent it's always been a war against the catholic church

they're all explicit in their history of the catholic church which is very compelling to me why do you think they're against the catholic so much because the catholics were calling them what they were saying us I mean this the rewrite of history is a bell of Spain she should be saying to it they are constantly everything you've learned about catholicism in the history of catholicism is just crap in school and as a reason for that because

America was designed to be anti catholic to be anti orthodox and the reason is because catholic's

hold the history they know what they were doing on that continent America's supposed to be kept

fat happy and young I truly believe that and now America well we were fat happy and young for 250 years and now we're arriving into our adolescent phase and people are starting to look in

“the right places it's why I encourage people to go to Russia Russia holds the key to a lot of”

secrets of these maniacal psychopaths who are arriving America who say well my great so and so went to Russia got you clocks no exactly who your great grandfather must have been and your blood thirst the Bible says you will know them by their fruits you do you do do you have to imagine who mark livens ancestors were who were in Russia now I I got a guess I'm in a guess they were killing the shit at a bullshit because if I just had a guess I mean they I mean they were killing

the shit out of Christians if I had to guess I mean I they must have been right they must have built the glue log system there's a blood lust that exists in an anger that is just so perceptible that that's why you say you wouldn't know them by their fruits it's the way they speak about people there's a happiness in their eyes when they're talking about like murder it's weird I sometimes when I watch clips that will go viral of Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin there's something in their like

demeanor and their eyes that is it's so dark I mean it's so dark where you really go I think you are happy it makes you happy when kids are being killed in Gaza like there's there's something it's very disturbing they're they're not having the same reaction as we are having and you see it in their tweets it's it's it's they're hungry for more death and destruction oh no I've seen it I've seen it in person it's dark I've seen it here in this room it's dark um that can only

come from worshiping the fucking foaming at the mouth yeah that can only come from the Prince of Darkness because when spirits are light and happy and you have a reaction to seeing a dead kid doesn't matter what the race that the kid is doesn't matter what the race that kid is you don't get up on the

“airways and go oh well that's what happens you're gonna get some more of that like Ben give you”

your saying there's something very wrong with these people and so you don't have to imagine who they are the children of and that's why you don't have to get into the weed on it either it's like you know you can God gave you intuition you know you gave you intuition to know when somebody is spiritually disturbed and that's putting it mildly something about post october 7 you can see the flicker of demonology in their eyes now

and the satisfaction they get from knowing that they're hurting other people I mean we just read that tweet yeah honest there's a thousand more just like it

honest from other people and powerful positions over there there's just there's been so many things

I mean to me that prove how bad the influence is like send it that fucking petophile back it is real you know but you saw that right he was in the cyber team or they're one of the top guys in there cyber security fucking wing of the idea I don't know whatever came here lower and what

we just packed him up and sent a back to Israel where he can do that freely by the way because

they've been harboring and protecting pedophiles for a while we're just cattle to him right because it gets into that frankest faith that actually dominates that the frankest beginnings for frankest origins of Israel that's that's not Judaism the star of David is not the star of David it's Solomon's keys look up at Alistair Crowley's book he's got the star of David all over it it's about summoning demons it's ball or ship

and they don't want you to peer to know the history of that but that's the reality

“so star of David but people are waking up to that and I think that's why they have a certain”

it's almost like they're under pressure right now like they're lust for destruction has never

been louder they're not even like shape-shifting things the best way to put it I feel like we're watching people who used to play human shape-shifting to demons in real life what do you think about all this UFO UAP alien shit that's coming out all of a sudden destruction do you think it's a destruction yeah or do you think it's a narrative and they're going to try to pull a false flag alien invasion I think the government has had technology and has hidden

technology for a long time and I think whenever they start threatening to do disclosures in a time

“where people are waking up about the ultimate disclosure which is who rules over us it's a”

destruction you've had a lot of time to give us this and now there seems to be a real awakening happening people talking about demons people talking about the occult people talking about ball worshipers and child sacrifice and that's a real threat that's personally what I think all this UAP shared is I think it's all demonic entities there are demonic entities around us also think it's interesting how it is a resurfaced

right in the midst of the ups in shit right in the midst of pambondi sand the dowels at 50,000 how many people do you have coming after you how many death threats do you get all day every day do you take them seriously yeah yeah we have a person in jail for trying to kill me yeah I take him seriously because I said to kill you we're talking about Jewish history talking about that Rebi Shnerson tomb that Trump prayed over and they all go into Brooklyn and pray over that guy

“you should look into that guy what what to yeah you start talking about the Hababad Lubovich”

and they lose their minds the history of the Hababad Lubovich but if you open up looking into Sigmund Freud if everyone listening could just read the assault on truth and

the second book after you read that is Sigmund Freud in the Jewish mystical tradition

you'll figure it out all right you'll figure it out well got you another present I got you another present what is it you're a little bit actually love presence you too yeah honestly they come each one of them yeah so many people come after you you know so uh you familiar with six hour yes I am actually good yes so I got a buddy over there as names Jason okay and Jason is the VP marketing over there you got really excited knowing that you're

coming on so I told him I thought a lot of people are coming after you so he wanted me to present you with this that is so nice Jason yes that is so sweet I'll tell you they're awesome too like really good company and yeah the best we're just talking about pedophiles earlier we did this big episode on roadblocks with this kid named Schlepp and uh he unveiled what was going on on roadblocks we scream recorded the whole thing and uh they were

using so the developers were putting six hours they have one game they've recreated the

there and they actually even have the victims names that were killed in the schools

“over the characters heads and you go in there as the shooter and kill these fucking kids no”

and one of the weapons they have is a sig sour so we got it to sig and sig demanded roadblocks take all their weapons out of the game wow they're awesome so disturbing so disturbing that that was even a thing I mean they watch your kids one way or the other they want their minds and it's we have to fight we have to be the generation that fights back and we're only gonna fight back by recognizing that it's real it's embarrassing it's real

so anyways here you go this is the wow thank you Jason over at six hour with the new Romeo X optic that's a six hour can suppressor there so won't be too loud take 17 rounds plus one in the pipe you pedophiles what's that take out a few pedophiles quietly quietly that'll do it yeah that's amazing thank you so much you're welcome is absolutely amazing you're welcome maybe we can break that in on the range before you head out yeah there we go right yeah

oh it's so kind as I mean people are so kind no I know well I mean people are just amazing

“and they've just been in so many ways I mean that's what that's what keeps you going you have”

to remind of that where the majority don't forget what Charlie said right there's always more

slaves yeah yeah I know I feel the energy about but I feel like it though they feel threatened how do you get into the Catholicism my husband he can work at the Catholicism he read they say read theology we would say majored in theology in college and he went which was a very big deal obviously in England decided to convert to Catholicism in his last year of school after studying theology and once we had our kid he was really being pulled back into the church and spending a

lot of time there and really getting involved and it was sort of just this another layer of my husband

“that I wanted to know I didn't get it you did not get it all and so as I am I decided I wanted”

to understand it and it was sort of this perfect storm of where I was at politically reading about segment for it and his deep hatred of the Catholic church I mean deep hatred of the Catholic church

and basically creating modern psychology as a way to counter the Catholic church to replace the

priests with therapists you know to disrupt that system and I was going wow every time I read a book it somehow is telling me that the Freemasons were very anti-Catholic and I'm not looking for it even that book I just mentioned to you tells you about how they were ever intentional about making sure that the new Atlantis would not be Catholic so once I was awake to the Freemasonic hatred and the pedophile protecting hatred toward the Catholic church and how they plan to infiltrate

and break her apart from the inside and break apart the Catholic Empire that way I saw this sort of big piece of history really that I was compelled toward and there has to be for something to try to destroy that bad for say indicated that bad it's because it represents truth and so I am very compelled toward learning the orthodox tradition the Catholic tradition I am my mind is there I mean Russia was just recently in the Russia and I'm just floored at how much is there I mean I need to spend time in

Russia to be able to hold artifacts that old I was a I did an interview with a guy

his name is Nikita he's an incredible very accomplished director anyway he I asked him something he had

something in his office and I was like oh how old is this and he sort of laughed he said older than America there is something about that you know I and I felt so like a spiritual thirst for more of Russia like the secrets like they just been sort of waiting and they've kept the books and before they were translated and taken and I yeah I just I really want to spend more time in Moscow you like it there loved it

search and notice a pattern that is design is really hate Russia although they'll tell you that that's where their family came from right but pogroms they my family left actually the pogroms

that never happened you you know assassinated to saw or bizarre in Alexander the second and

it was a Jewish plot I mean there's no question about that and it's just a remarkable thing it's like no matter what they do that the victims it's kind of a thing and they did end up a lot of them coming to America and then obviously they were satanic Romanov ritual and then a lot of them came into America but Russia if you have an American mind to about it you would think it's dilapidated that there's no freedom highly impoverished that the people hate the Vladimir Putin I

don't know that would be my general sense of whatever body thinks and also that they hate

“Americans right that I think everyone believes couldn't be more opposite could not be I mean they”

absolutely love Americans absolutely love Americans they don't even understand why Americans

think what they think about Russia there are so confused by the the western perception if you will about Russia unbelievably safe I think I also thought it would maybe back in my head thought it would be unsafe it was unbelievably safe clean it really makes you angry about the fact that our manner sacrificing their lives and their bodies in a Middle East and they come back to the way our country looks even our capital city which should be the shiny example at least make

the city nice and dc you've got drug addicts walking around gay pride flags people walking around half naked tweaking on the streets of dc you're not Moscow it's an immaculate city and the history as someone who loves history to have gone to the monasteries to see the old churches it stirs your soul beauty stirs your soul and there's a reason why whenever common is who I believe

“came to America and that's what we're dealing with right now and the other ones that are in power”

common is in Zionism or rather in sister but they seek to destroy history they seek to make it so that people don't aspire to beauty because when you don't see beauty it's reflected in your soul I mean in Catholicism that that is a belief that you need beauty right it's beauty truth truth and goodness these are the pillars and when you don't see beauty when you don't have truth and when you don't have goodness a society falls apart when you don't aim toward those

transcendentals in life when you walk around and you see these churches and the relics and the medieval intention it just the beauty of walking into a church that is stood there for that long it stirs something inside of you I felt inspired I don't think I could describe it I wanted to know more I wanted to be smarter I wanted to work harder and in America they want everyone to sort of live in nothingness like really close to your

neighbor built in foamsy homes nothing is structured anymore and there's a reason for that because they don't want you to think about history they don't want you to think about permanence they want you to think that you're here and then you're gone that you have don't think about ancestry don't think about ancestry don't think about living in your dad's home when you get older

“that's what we're drifting toward we're drifting toward that emptiness of”

the Bolshevik revolution when they made them close the churches and they made the state religion atheism and America has been under a Bolshevik spell I think for a long time yeah it does seem like there's an awakening happening but

well how do you like being independent I'm just the happiest person I could never go back to

working for someone other than my husband you are crushing up thank you thank you thank you and you know I owe it to my team for believing in me and and when I'm sure they don't believe in me you know I'm sure they some they've got to have some questions one thing we will never agree on in my in the control room is the moon landing I got these guys who need it to be true his name is Skyler yeah and I'm one day I will bring him over to the dark side which is

did they did happen but we have a great time and it is it really is a blessing to be able to perform and to be in control of your own life and to say what you actually think without consequence the threat of you know the sort of domicles above your head and having someone am I going to be in trouble and get brought into the CEO's office because Ben didn't like that like that's I'm so glad it's all removed from my life and that I lands on my fee in large part

in every part thanks to my husband and faith in God really trusting that I could follow truth and say something that was good and right and that he would have my back and he did well I'm really happy for it thank you and it's inspired a lot of people so congratulations thank you and I do also just want to say I would not be here without the fans

they I mean they will never know that what that year was like for me to have people

“which are trying to do to Megan but it was magnified I think because it I was kind of early”

to the cancellation party just try to take everything from your family I mean they don't they don't want you to just be fired they want you destroyed like it's it's it's so evil and if it wasn't for my fans the people who signed up who sent the emails keep going with you you know please don't sell us out that's the other things they're so used to that they're so used to someone just taking the money I wouldn't be here without them the people who prayed around the world who pray every

single day around the world for my safety who write right us and tell us that they're keeping us

in their prayers which is the most important part my family could not have gotten through it without

them and so I just feel like I also just need to say thank you especially with the Charlie's assassination because it was that was definitely the toughest few months of my entire career was dealing with I mean it's still as tough but I've now accepted that he's not coming back and I've accepted that he was betrayed so it's easier now that I'm contending with reality but those months that followed I always say to my team I make the joke I'm like if I can get through the last two years

and I didn't end up like shaving my head and you know and going into a loony band like I'm telling

“you like I think I'm the most emotionally stable person that I know because I don't know who else”

could have made out of that without losing their mind you know so it was it was it's been a tough tough go but my husband was reminding me we were we were out for one the other day because sometimes you get the perspective I was saying to him when we had someone I remember our team suffered a seizure in Russia and Russia has been amazing and taking care of him who served this country for 12 years and couldn't get a freaking appointment at the VA and knew something

was wrong and they told him it was in his head and here's some zanx and it turns out it wasn't his head but it was a massive brain clot anyway my husband and I was saying to him those moments where we thought he was going to die and you just I was sitting here just going really God you know doing that would chat like what's up are we fighting what's going on and you get those moments and George has the best perspective and he just reminded me about

the lessons of Job and the biblical lessons of Job and having everything taken away from you and remembering God's perspective on that like you don't you know what I contend with and not seeing why things are happening not being able to understand the bigger picture

and it's so important to always have that perspective is we are just as I always say

little blip soon equation that we don't understand and at random times in the equation God puts a plus in your life and then puts a minus five you know it's like here's plus one here's minus five here's a division here's a multiplication and you're going what on earth is going on

“and we're not meant to see the sum of it but occasionally I think we're allowed a glimpse”

and to recognizing in the retrospect that when he was doing all those minuses it actually was a plus you know you get to look back and go man you really want to be out of the daily wire like yesterday and you did it in the most in the craziest way man were you looking out you know and so it's you know thank God even for the hardships good for you good for you all right last question

we had three guests to recommend for this show who would they be Phil turning US celebrity okay change my life there's just something about a person who's held on to something like that

ruthlessly murdered that just you really see it how evil our government what they're capable of you

“know I would definitely say Phil turning um I can I give you one that I've never had on my show”

but I feel like you'll beat me to it yeah I every year I try to get blood and wear putin I feel like it'll beat me to it I feel like you got to just like do something like you got to get like Kim Jong-un like I don't know where you know right I feel like that's where we're at like we now need to know they've told so many lies about us and like with protecting Jeffrey Epstein I'm like okay let me go find all the people that you're saying if Jeffrey Epstein's good

and and Putin is evil I got to go figure out like what's going on really that would be fascinating like when Tucker went over and did Putin I was like cease by it um yeah give me like give me Phil turning Kim Jong-un and or Putin and I'd like to see your wife she's been on here Hashi twice okay I know I was gonna you guys do another family member of yours I don't like putting my family on display I know but it's you learn the most about people when you

“when they speak to their family members and that's why I love to watch them those podcasts and like oh”

certainly the about Kanye hey be great you think you would do it I do it is great right on mm-hmm you for Kanye I just want to go to see one of his concerts

they look incredible the Kanye's expression is music you got the when he does the show that's his

that's his medium you know you want to end this with a prayer absolutely all right you lead it oh no you have to lead the prayer you lead it your episode okay I'll lead the prayer I never lead the prayer in my house my granddad was always like if there's a guy there they always lead the prayer okay so this is I'll all just do just like how I kind of pray and like I feel like I have to incorporate you into it so well like whatever so with the father the son and the holy spirit

Dear Lord we thank you for this conversation we hope that people who are hearing this conversation are impacted there are a lot of people that are suffering in the world and it's difficult for us to contend with why that is and why that suffering is allowed to happen but

we always at first come to you with gratitude and recognizing that there was a lot of goodness

that is working at the same time that there are so many people who are waking up and understanding what is happening in this world on your time and on a time line that makes sense we pray for the children that are suffering all across the world the people who are in war torn areas we pray that you protect them and that you cover them the people that are growing up without parents without water without food and that you are with them

we pray for the information that you want us to have we come to you and gratitude for the platform that you have given me the platform that you have given Sean Ryan a platform that I don't think either of us would have ever thought or think that we deserve and we continue to ask that you use these platforms to do your well because these are your platforms and these things can be taken away from us at any moment we thank you for the health of our family we thank you for the energy to keep

going we thank you for the people that you have put in our lives even the bad ones we pray especially for our enemies and the people that seek to do harm on us because only you can move them and change those people in the world in your name we pray in Jesus Christ Amen did you just cry so amen beautiful thank you Candice who's an honor thank you so much it was an honor to be here I'm so I feel like I was last and I was like man maybe he just doesn't like me

“I remember what I was doing show like I was like I thought you're so so cool thank you”

really like to be on there well you made it I made it it was a fascinating interview I've really enjoyed this there will be a lot of tears on the internet guarantee awesome yeah all right I wish you the best of luck thank you so much cheers no matter where you're watching the Sean Ryan show from if you get anything out of this at all anything please like comment and subscribe in most importantly share this everywhere you possibly can and if you're feeling extra generous

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