David Grutman On The Truth About Power, Access, Success, & What It Really Takes To Build An Empire

Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of The Bostics. Today we have our friend David Grottman, David is a visionary entrepreneur, hospitality tight and founder of Groot Hospitality. I'm sure many of you have been to some of his places in Miami or Vegas places like Live Nightclub, Poppy Stake, Gekko and more, but his influence extends far beyond the Miami

and Vegas Nightlife scene. He's also one of the most well-connected people in the world with relationships that span industries. He's a serial investor and entrepreneur and a great father and husband. Most recently he's just written his first book called Take It Personal, which we talk about

in this episode, and where he shares all the things that he's learned along the way, from turning resilience into long-term success, relationship building, the importance of a grounding partnership, and how to find success in any venture. This book is not just for the Nightlife entrepreneur or the restaurant tour like we discovered in this episode, it's really for anyone trying to build anything.

“I think this is one of the most personal conversations David's had on a show like this,”

and with that he shared a lot of insights that I don't think he shared in other places.

We had a great time with him as always, with that our friend, David Grottman.

What's the first epiphany that gets you into the hospitality industry? Do you remember something even before you got in that you were like, "Damn, I really did like hospitality always." So I always thought bartenders were probably the coolest job ever and when I started bartending I was like, this is very cool, but then I would watch the managers on the floor

leading the like pacing the whole experience for people, and that's when I was like, "I need to be a leader. I don't want to just be a bartender." What are you like as a bartender? Like, let's talk about it.

I was in my 20s, Lord, I was very good looking. Let's start here, right? Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. And I was throwing, I was, I thought I was cocktail from Tom Cruise.

And are you like on stage Mr. for more? By the way, great.

By the way, Tom Cruise is the greatest of all time.

I say, "Bird day." Funny you say that. I had this debate with our like, "Go like this. Did you see Tom? Did you see Tom?

Yeah, I see him.

“But he doesn't get, I think that like, you listen, you know a lot of big names, a lot”

of big people. I think that's the white whale. Like you don't really see that guy popping in your places too often. I saw him one time at a friend's 50th birthday and he was doing splits on the dance floor. This is like, this is a great story, actually.

This is like, maybe a year ago, it was Victoria of the heck of a 50th birthday. And he's about to leave. Bit of a name drop. Yeah, let's cut that out. Let's sort of.

No, I'm not just kidding. I'm not just kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

We're not kidding anything out there. We're cut this out. That's how I cut this out. That's how I cut this out. So he's about to leave.

And I'm there at the friend of my friend Ben Gorham and both of this regular guys. And the door's about to open and he looks at us and he goes, I'm going in boys and he puts

his sunglasses on and they open the door and one million flashes happen.

He's like, I'm going in and he just knew what he was about to go through. And he just, he just went for it. A lot of celebrities are very attracted to you and don't downplay it. They are. I don't know about that.

But okay. What is it?

“I think they feel safe with me. I think they know I'm just not trying to be like trying”

to scumb them. Also, I want them to have the best experience in my, I'm it's the greatest city ever. And I think I put a lot of my friends into deals that I do too and you know, investment deals. When you started bartending, did you have the thought process that you would build

it into something this beggar was that not even a seed in your head? For context for this audience, a lot of people are aware of you, but when you describe who you are and what you do at this point in your career, how do you describe it? You have a lot of spaces now. So I'm in the fun business that's starting there.

So I have, I mean, many of your listeners have definitely danced on the tables at Live Night Club. So Live Live Night Club. I mean, Live Beach, Poppy Stake, which is one of the most fun restaurants with David Poppy.

I don't really think she loves that. I said Donna, get go with somebody else and Commodore, and Commodore, I have one in Miami, Dallas and in Las Vegas. How many venues now in total? About that many eight, nine, ten, but they're very well known.

And these are the three of them. Yeah. Okay. So did you know when you're bartending that you want to build this empire? No, no, I had no idea.

I just wanted to become a manager. That was the first step. Okay. So what happens after you become a manager? I'm a general manager, and then I do marketing at a nightclub and I see about events and

sponsorships and stuff like that. And then I started a marketing agency to activate these brands trying to come into Miami. And then I run a big nightclub group in Miami. And then from there, I ended up with a small little nightclub called Live. What do you think?

Some of the biggest lies people believe about owning restaurants and nightclubs are. You know, there's something funny I've been seeing on Instagram and TikTok, there's this viral

And then it shows what it's really like and he's holding boxes and I mean, first of all, you're in the, you're in the people business. So it's not so controllable as, you know, people do stupid shit as you know.

And it's, there's always something going on.

I mean, my dad owned restaurants, my entire childhood. Do you work in the restaurants? I've worked in a bartender 14 to 25. What do you do at 14 hostess hostess hostess went from cocktail server, cocktail server at 17. Cocktail server to bartender for 10 years. Did you do this in Arizona?

No, California. California. Yeah. And I saw the grit of what it takes. What's so cool about you is that you are a practitioner because you've done every single area

of the business where I see owners that are fucked is when they make some money at a different venture and they think just because they made money at a certain venture that they can go open a restaurant. I love when somebody that's made a lot of money in a different industry comes and goes, I'm buying three night clubs and five restaurants and they don't realize how quickly you

lose money in these spaces and they're like, why didn't anyone tell me they all think they know the magic without, you know, just want to open one first, get that one going.

“How did you learn though to master the business because it is such a hard business?”

It's a very hard business. People think it's just, again, you just show up and it's like a party going on at all that.

I always talk about the daytime makes the nighttime.

It's really the daytime stuff that the parties, the experience, all that is just part of from everything that you do during the daytime and how I, listen, I'm a student. So I'm sure, like anybody else, when you find something that you love in your passion about you just, you're so thirsty to find out information and find out, how do you do it? You know, another thing I saw in the business is a lot of people getting sucked into the alcohol

the drugs. Sure. And of course, I had my stimp with that for sure. I think I had great people around me that said you're about to lose everything that you work so hard for.

So that's why I had to go sober. Walk me through that. What is this, is this a year ago, is this 10 years ago? 10 years ago. 10 years ago.

Maybe 11 years now, but Liv is rocking and rolling, I'm drinking my own cool aid.

“I think I'm the coolest guy in the world and of course, I was partying a lot of a single”

I was partying that the, and my true friends came to me and they said, listen, I think you need to go away. I'm like, go away. Talk about where we're going to go, central pay, where we go, and there's a special place in Arizona for you and I'm like, okay, what do you want to do?

And I thought in my head, of course, this is exactly what a cool club owner should be doing. And they're like, let me tell you something, my man, you're going to lose everything. Not only that, you've worked so hard your whole life to build your reputation and it's going to be gone in one second. So there's a very nice place that we've found for you for 30 days and you're going

to go. And I went and I came back with a completely different mindset and it's just now I'm out there and I see people really wasted and I'm not about partying and having a good time. It's about like really hurting themselves. And that's what I used to do, it's all I would hurt myself.

So now I wonder, I'm like, what happened in their childhood? What trauma is the day experience for them to have to medicate like this? And you look at your own experience, what trauma were you medicating for? Wow, you're trying to make me cry. I told you you're not going to make me cry.

I'm really not trying to make you cry. I'm not trying to make you cry. No, I was a single kid. I was a single kid. I was a single kid.

I probably felt like I was insignificant growing up. Didn't have a lot of supervision. I went to boarding school for high school.

I was just never had that hard core family like I tried to give it to my girls in my

wife. So interesting because to me, you are in a business of significance now.

“Yes, but listen, I think that's what drew me maybe, you know, so consciously to the business.”

Right. It makes sense. So how do you maintain your sobriety with all of this going on? It's, can I tell you, that's the easiest thing. People are like, how do you go into a nightclub or how do you like, it's, it's my job.

First of all, but like, I don't need to have a cocktail in order to be around people. I feel like I'm confident enough now to be with, to sit with anyone and be able to have a conversation. And if you need alcohol or drugs in order to make you feel like you're going to be okay, just to sit down with somebody, I think you need to figure that part out.

Well, we know you personally, obviously, and we know you're beautiful wife and we've met your kids and you're a great father and husband and Lauren talks about all the time. I mean, that is a compliment. Do you think that this industry is compatible for most men or do you think you need to be

Because I imagine for a lot of people, there's a lot of temptation, there's a lot of room

from mistakes, there's a lot of room for party. Yeah, of course. You have to be really intentional. Imagine more so than like a buy show up to the office. Yeah, listen, I don't know, your office has a lot of people working here.

I'm sure there's plenty, there's no music in front of it. They're not shaking, but whole and doing like dances and doing like some bottle service and there's not enough. It's a little bit of a range that today in the studio, but I mean, the deer officer are late.

It's crazy. It's going on over there.

“Listen, I think like anything else, you have to put boundaries on everything.”

Like I'm not trying to be in the nightclub to 5 a.m., I mean, I don't know, I have boundaries. I've played tennis early at 8 a.m., so I'm not going to be able to make that tennis

if I would ever, I make sure I schedule early meetings whenever I travel, I mean, I just

do a lot. So how do you, so if someone's, we're going to be a partner when you're rushed on. So if they're coming in and they are going to work with you, how do you coach them to be able to make sure they don't get caught up into the party? So listen, there's only so much people, listen, I have Poppy Steak and Poppy's my partner

and Poppy, listen, he is a party, right? So, but even Poppy knows how to regulate himself to not go past that point. I don't think it's endearing to people if you're just the party guy all the time because in your two accessible anyway, I think part of my business is not being so accessible. That's interesting.

Let's talk about that more. I don't even hear about that. You think about absence as much as you think about present. Listen, you don't want to be not present, but you also don't want to be so accessible that people can just access you all the time, who wants that.

I totally agree with you.

“Well, there's a power and saying, no, let's start there.”

And it's funny because especially in the hospitality business guys in the restaurant in the nightclubs, the quickest way to get someone to stop going to your nightclubs to give them a VIP card. Because if there's not that little bit of, oh, no, I'm going to get in. I don't know if it's going to happen at my, my, my whole, the, uh, if they just have a card

that just gives them instant access, that, that eliminates them from coming to your nightclubs. Now, the restaurant business is the office. You want to be, hi, how are you? It's so happy you're here. You want to be recognized.

You want to remember their cocktail. You want to know their favorite food. You want to make them feel like this is their home. So it's two different kind of mentalities. How do you learn that?

Learn it from opening restaurants and nightclubs and seeing it, but even in your restaurants, your restaurants are some of the most popular restaurants in Miami in the season. How many in Las Vegas at the time? Yeah, Michael. You got to say the whole thing.

I need to go out there in October. I'm going to go out there. So how do you decide? He might be able to get you in. How do you decide who gets a table and what table?

So listen, uh, I would love to say it's all coming through my desk. I have an amazing team and they know that tables and even in the nightclubs, they're like real estate place. So and then you also want to be able to pair people against each other that you think will have champagne wars as you know, being a bottle server.

And same thing with restaurants, uh, we always leave a little room for those VIPs that

we know that we have to take care of and then we want to make sure there's room for people that saved their money all week and they want to go, let it rip in one of my places. From your perspective, when you're looking at a room when your restaurants is packed, there's everybody's in there, who's the real power in the room? Is it the money guy, is it the famous person, is the network, when you're sitting around

and like, oh, that's the, that's the, that's the where the, the real energy of the room is traveling towards. You know, the only people who've come up to me and said, hey, there's a billionaire over there. There's a billionaire key.

I'm like, there's a bill, okay, like there's always a billionaire. And I'm like, okay, I'm happy to say, if it's, like, anybody just wants to say hi and I happen to be in the restaurant and someone's there, I'd love to say hi to them. But people always want to stress it. That's a billionaire and I'm always like, okay, man, but it's so funny that a lot of these

billionaires, uh, and I see with artists a lot, like, certain artists, they're manager

“be like, hey, there's this billionaires that you need to go say hi.”

I don't know why you have to go say hi because they're, because they're a billionaire. All they want to know is, how come they're not recognized like you're not recognized. Uh, maybe their life is not as fun and whatever it is, but listen, uh, I love powers of power of industry and anything. It's great to meet great people, but I don't know, whoa, what are you doing?

Coke Zero. You better believe it. Don't you think. Let it get there, let it get there. We're not gonna come up with fresh dice.

Hope you're looking up the details, Dave. Thank you. Thank you, Emily. Thank you. Well, right, what does you kind of, we need to get a little table.

That's, that, look, he found another edit. He thought he wouldn't find another edit, he did. You are married to someone who is her own powerhouse in her own right.

What's the real story? Because it's conflicting on Instagram about how you guys met and who like to. The conflicting thing is, if she called me the next day or I called her, I, I'm telling the truth, she called me. She loves to say that I called her, but like, even when like, it's true, it's true that

she called me first. I have to tell you, it's like, it's conflicting. She doesn't want to look like she did that, but she did do that.

“So you meet her, do you fall in love immediately or was it a slow burn?”

No, so I take her to lunch the next day after meeting her the night before. Okay. I fly back, she's a new work. I fly back to Miami, her friends are all coming to Miami that weekend. I convince her to come, her friends don't end up coming.

She thinks I set the whole thing up. That being said, she comes on a Friday.

I just never wanted her to leave again.

I got engaged nine months later and you know, we're having our 10-year wedding anniversary in next two weeks. You probably had girls throwing yourselves as throwing themselves to you and I'm sure she had men throwing themselves to her. I don't know if she had men throwing themselves to her.

Oh, no, I'm gonna say she did. I hate to break it to you. I bet she had a line out the door down the street. You have access to all this different, what makes her stand out. I know my answer, but I want to hear it from you.

So, let's forget, obviously she's the most special person outside in the inside. We know all that. All that's fine. But a life with my wife doesn't even, it's so amazing compared to, I feel bad for single people out there that have to keep going and going and going and going.

It seems to me that's just a really dark, not that I'm, you know, if you're not married,

“don't, you have to get married, but for me life is just 10 times better with my wife.”

Being able to share experiences, kids, love, everything and having a partner, it's the greatest thing in the world. For what you've accomplished and are trying to accomplish and I think about this a lot, I look at some of my friends that are running around doing that very things chasing and I'm like, it's such a distraction, you gotta be at all these dates, talking to all these

people, you're struggling. I could even imagine dating now, hey, would you like to go to dinner? I have no clue. What do I say? No, but I mean, I just think from a pure output and focus perspective, if you're having

to manage all of that chaos, how are you able to then really focus on your English? And then there's still kids in love and all that with my wife, it's not like, there's not a focus that goes into that because, you know, like anything, relationships. And I'm sort of like, how distracting all the dating is, I don't even know this world, you speak of, you know, what's the same?

How do you and Isabella keep it hot? So, you know, you go through these, we try to make sure that we, we, you know, do things every other day and stuff like that, not then. Because once you start, you know, it's very easy in a marriage to start going to that once a week or once every two weeks, things, and I think that's when it goes.

And I think we just really strive, which is great for me to make sure it's, it's, it's, it's a lot. Her career has taken off. How do you support her career as a husband? Like, are you, are you giving her any advice as she grows as an entrepreneur?

So, she'll ask me for advice here and there, but she, she's very smart. She's actually way smarter than me, but she'll come to me sometimes on how do I structure something or, you know, what do I think about that? But she's a boss, my wife is really good at what she does.

First of all, her jewelry is, is so, she's really found her sweet spot.

I think, as you know, all the girls love to wear. I love her. I love her. I love her. And I think, hopefully, the brand lives past her.

“Like, I think that's what's so important right now as she's growing.”

If someone was describing your style in business, are you, like, are you like a golden retriever? I don't know what that means. I mean, are you, are you, are you soft, are you hard, are you, like, are you, what's your business style?

So, I want people to think twice about trying to screw me over. That's for sure. Let me, not forget that. Because I, I am in the micro business, but I also want people to know that I do win win business.

And I, something I preach about a lot, like, if we do a deal together and I'm the only winner and you're the loser, it's not, it's not going to be a relationship that's going to stick around for a long time. And it's not where I'm, like, doing the touchdown dance like I got one over on this person. I'd much rather for me, you run around, say, oh, I did this deal with David and we killed

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“What gets your attention when it comes to investing?”

I think it's just seeing the engagement and how it makes me feel inside as well. Then I kind of go from there. But I think my wife's taste is very good. I saw her eating skinny dipped in bed. And my wife doesn't eat anything with sugar or nothing, anything.

The fact that my wife kept ordering skinny dipped. And then when it came across my desk and that could be an advisor and an investor in it, I jumped at it for the single reason that my wife was eating it. And I know how much she loves skinny dipped. That's interesting.

So you're looking at what she was doing and you-- I look at pop culture. I look at what people are doing. I think I'm big into energy and seeing what people love. Symiotica too.

Wow. That's a good one. It's a great one. Symiotica.

I mean, great founders, shots, they're amazing.

And the fact that I could work with them and help raise money for this round that they just did.

“And I think we brought in the best people in the world.”

But the greatest thing was, everyone thinks I'm some magician with it. But everyone was already using it. It was so easy to go to the weekend and be like, hey, man, you want to invest in Symiotica? He's like, yeah, it's on my rider.

Like, yeah, of course. Like everyone did it. Maybe you should invest in Coke. Maybe you should drink zero. Or maybe we should say it's Oli Pop.

Oli Pop. It's the Oli Pop Vintage Cola. I did invest in Oli Pop. Now listen, you know, pop you listen, congratulations to Poppy. But I wasn't really sold on the Poppy flavors.

I like the Oli Pop nostalgic flavors way better.

It was a much higher valuation than Poppy was at the time.

And I went and listen, Poppy has crushed it. They get at a great exit. I think Rohan is, Rohan is a genius with beverage. And so happy for everyone that was in that deal. I hope Oli Pop 2 will have an exit.

I don't, I think it'll be a great one. It does, it does great. I know you love vacation. The sun, the sun. I love vacation.

I really appreciate all your posts on it. It's the shimmer oil. You guys on vacation use vacation when you're on vacation. Put the shimmer on your legs. It gives you the prettiest, like most subtle glow.

I like that a lot. But you're also, like, you're involved in a lot of brands that I think also embody a lot of what you do in your lifestyle. Of course brands, right? They're not like, you're not like in some random thing that would have nothing to do with you.

It just won't, it doesn't get me excited for me to add value.

“You have to be excited about the authentic.”

What about when it comes to you spotting talent? I see you with a lot of new talent. And I know you've made a lot of introductions that have led to things. What do you think about spotting new talent in a certain way? I have to, I have to see what's bubble.

What's going to be the next hot thing if I just fall the trend afterwards and I miss it. So I try to be, I use every resource at my disposal to try to find what's the next hotness. So what are you looking for? Like are there certain themes or there's certain character traits? Like, how do you spot that early?

Is it something you see on a product? What kind of engagement is it getting on socials and stuff like that? I'm telling it, I'm looking to see what's the, it's not about how many, it's like, what are all the kids talking about? What's the youth talking about?

What are they talking about right now? Well, funny, you say that. They're definitely talking about Praspa. These two DJs, they're talking a lot about Praspa. Okay.

Katama, John Summit, of course, three years ago, I made that big investment. He's, of course, just out, he's on a fire crushed. It disco lines. You're doing your show with Alacharol?

I'm producing a show with Alacharol and her family, and it's so good, you guys are going to love this. It is. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of.

Not just about Alex, it's the whole family. TJ, the father, and the stepmom, the mom, you know, the sister, the young kids, now we're tiktokking, but the whole family, it's a, it's a full, it's a full unit.

The video of you dancing at Super Bowl went viral. You saw that? What do you mean, do you saw that?

Yeah, we did Super Bowl. We not see it, it's pinned to your top boom. No, no, no. I mean, it was a very viral moment. What happened after that moment?

Like, are you getting DMs from everybody? What's going on?

First, I never received so many texts.

Yeah, it's a one time. Like, people haven't talked to in 20 years, but like, this, like this, like this, funny, we're on our way home from Super Bowl that night. And all my, it's, it's a red. It's, we're flying overnight.

And my friends are all sleeping. And of course, a nonstop on my phone just seeing everything. And we land, and they're like, oh, we had a great, and like, oh, I wasn't able to sleep to go. Yeah, because you're a sicko.

You said I didn't think nonstop seeing that. Insane. Well, because it's just, I don't think it was on anyone's bingo card. Really? Like, like, when you, like, you just like popped out there,

and then you was like in the house dance. And listen, it looks good. I was just like, I never seen you dance like that before. And they said to me, first of all, there's a big screen front of you. Right? You see the big screen jumbo trot.

And I'm seeing myself out of like this.

“And they're like, David, why did you have to keep looking up at dance?”

I'm like, we're, they've seen myself up there.

That's cool. Come on, everyone's looking at themselves. That, yeah, right, everyone's gonna do it. Of course. Okay, so people see the fun stuff that you see the Russian.

What is your real schedule look like day today? You're up at eight to play tennis every day. I play tennis every morning, eight to nine. Then I do, you know, very heavy weights, obviously. From 9 to 9, 20, I call the executive workout.

9 to 9, 20. And then I start going into my, sometimes it's 9, 25. But I go into my meetings and stuff like that. So your meetings are only your house we heard. Yeah. Why?

I mean, you've been to the house. It's beautiful house, you know. I have to say, I have to say, you have one of the most beautifully designed homes I've ever been in. Because, you know, how like some people by like a huge mansion.

And it, like, I'd say this nicely. There's like no taste. Right, there's no taste.

There's white marble and fake polar bear couches.

And like, something they saw, I don't know. My house is a, our house is a little bit different. I have a Brazilian wife. I become obsessed with Brazilian furniture and design. And my wife, yes, she has great taste.

“But it's a, it's a beautifully curated space, right?”

It doesn't, it doesn't look like you just went to a furniture store. It was really hard for me to focus on conversation at your house. I'm just telling you at the whole time I was like, had to take in every last detail. I love that.

The, the, the glasses above in the kitchen. No, no, no, no, no. In the kitchen, you have that wall. The show kitchen. And then also I started like spiraling because you guys opened your fridge.

And everything is organized. Isabella has like the wood caps and the silver caps. And there's like green juice that's labeled. And there's like a lemon tea, like everything. And there's liquid death, Aussie pop.

And now symbiotica is in that fridge lined up as well. Do you think you have OCD? Beyond. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I get fixated on stuff. No, let me tell you, let me tell you, let me tell you. So yesterday morning, I was in Dallas and I did good morning, Texas. Okay. And I look in the waiting room.

There's a thing for Wi-Fi guys. You have to log in, get an email. Then get a code and I got so fixated on the lady. I go, I go and I took a picture of the Wi-Fi thing. So throughout the time I kept saying going back to the lady.

But can we talk about the Wi-Fi situation just to get it? Why can't it just be Wi-Fi? Guest, whatever. But it was log in code. Someone's email that to verify that they could get Wi-Fi.

And I'm like, and Ben was so fixated. Even in my interview, I'm thinking about this Wi-Fi code situation for the building. What were you thinking about when you came here? The rebrand you're throwing off a little bit on the rehab?

Yeah, let's talk about that guy here. Okay, so-- Go ahead, no, no, no, no. I knew it. So I've been very excited to do your part.

As you know, the fact that I'm here at Austin, you didn't come to Miami to do the part, says a lot. Let's just start there. I don't like to leave my house for nothing. Yeah, well, that being said--

I wasn't invited to your home to do the podcast. You should have said that. I think we put it out there. That's for sure. No one said it to me.

No, no, my wife was like, I went to Austin.

“You need to go to Iowa, but why can't they bring it?”

We can reenact this in the house. I would have done it with your house as a backdrop. No, I told him. Okay, so anyway, so I'm here. I've been dying to do this.

And all of a sudden, you decide to do a name change the week before my pod's about to happen. You go, I mean, who does that? It's a good thing for you. I'm telling you there's more eyes on it now

that we did the rebrand. But why could you just wait for the week after I heard it? Don't, you want the rebrand. I'm telling you, it's a better thing. The fact that you thought I should be the guinea pig for the rebrand.

No, we've had a couple more.

Who have we had? We did RFK. RFK, Junior.

We even, he was the guinea pig.

You know, he was the guinea pig. He was the guinea pig. It's a good thing, I promise.

“Well, like we need, we need like a no name.”

Like bring RFK and we're doing a no name. Do you decide, because you don't need the money. Right. And you don't really need the same. Do you decide to write the book, take it personal?

Yes, because you want to give information to the next Dave, whose eight or 10 or 11 or 20 that's about that wants to do what you do. What's the motivation? Can you throw me that book, please? So the reason why I wrote this book, guys.

It's an, I'm glad you asked. It's not just for the hospitality. It's not just for the entertainment business. It's not just for venture capital. It's for life.

It's like a blueprint that I used for my life. Whether you're opening a car wash or a sales clerk or you're a realtor, whatever it is, the things that I wrote down in here, it's going to help you in your life. It's not about being a celebrity.

It's not about opening up lots of restaurants and nightclub. It's about living your life, starting relationships, and really like being able to succeed and fail and succeed again. Do you ask him Kardashian to write the book? Yes.

And give us the like the history of that. I mean, I've known Kim and I've been taking care of Kim for longer than I can remember for him when she was Paris Hilton's cute friend. You know what I mean? Like, from back then.

So yes, and we have a coup on system. So I asked her very nicely if we could, if she could do my four, and could I tell you, she didn't even blink right away. And that's how loyal Kim is. She's just an amazing, but she also inspires me, not just by being Kim,

but how into business is she, like the fact that she built skims, and she builds brand. And this girl does not stop. She'll sit in the glam chair at 5 a.m. and again at 5 p.m. and keep doing meetings all the way through.

And oh, and by the way, be a great mom.

“So when she writes your forward, what was that like for you to read what she said?”

Well, I mean, it was, it's, for me, I just, I feel like I'm a great friend. She's a great friend, but as you know, your friends are, by the way, if I asked you guys to do a four, I know you would do a very endearing forward. Oh, of course. It's important.

You can't get Kim next time. Michael, forward by Michael Boston. Yeah, exactly. Formerly known as the Skinny Confidential. No, no, no, no.

We're just the Austin.

We were arrested as I was always known as Boston.

Like I feel like that's fun. He's put in front of a pink. I'm a transfer paper that I can pay for 10 years now. What it is, you feel we're bumping in front of the pink now? No, but you know, but there's a lot of rolly things.

No, we'll say, though, listen, Dave, you're a very comfortable confident man. But a lot of these guys, you're asking them to come on the show and they'd be like, oh, it's pink and I'm like, you know, wow, really. Yeah, some of these guys. Kind of insulting to some of the most macho men you would think.

They'd get a little bit, you know, the a little bit nervous about it. But first of all, I'm in my mirror, but I have two girls, six and eight. So I'm in pink and flowers and colors in this and that all the time. That's the hottest thing in a man. It's called quiet confidence.

I like that. I advise if anyone's listening, it's the most important quality in a man. A man who is quietly confident, there is nothing sexier. It's not in your ego, it's not loud, it's not obnoxious, it's subtle. You know, I'll tell you what happened.

This is the truth with the rebrand. It was a started off of her media property, the blog and the 10 years. 20 years ago. And then we thought it was going to be like a fun random thing. It was him and her.

He built a brand. We go to the brand. And then what happened was we built the other brands. And people would be like, wait, who is this? You're married.

What's the show? What's the brand? Like it was confusing. And I'm like, okay, there's two people. We're married.

The boss. Then there's these other things. It's about building an ecosystem. Tell me about the competitor's mindset. It bothers the living shit out of me.

You got mad at us one time.

“We came in and we ended up going to, I think it was like the four seasons restaurant.”

And you were upset. I remember that. No, no, it wasn't the four seasons restaurant. Which was another restaurant. Which was the last time you were there.

Which one was it? Because I asked you to go, where are you guys going? You're in town for one night. And it was a restaurant that wasn't mine. And I was very upset with that.

Yeah, that's a rude Michael. When I go do it again. Michael sets it up. I didn't know it upset you so much. I felt like I got very, by the way, even went after her.

I don't know. You went after everybody. Got it. Got it. So what?

Tell me about that. I think you scream my daughter's friend. I mean, again, you're my friends. We're friends.

We spend an amazing day in the boat.

You're in my house. And you think it's all right to go eat at another restaurant. That's not mine. I like the honesty. Yeah, it's like a little fucked up to me.

No. Even though we ate at the restaurant for lunch, she wanted us to go for dinner. Oh. There's other restaurants in one restaurant that I have in my family.

I just want to make sure for next time I go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can have lunch at Casa Dane. Then go eat a get go, commodo or poppy. Okay.

Whatever it is. Next time we're going to hit every spot in a two day period. We're going to drive this lunch down here for it. Let me help. What is something that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have taught you?

And we had a little barbecue. I don't know how you like what they've told you that's like really great advice. Well, let's start with Ivanka. Ivanka's great. Ivanka's the best at is she sends you the best.

And I try to do it too, but she's so much better at it is. So send you messages just cheering you on. All the time, right? Very good at that. She's like, hey, I just saw this.

I'm so proud of you for doing this. No one else could do this. But you and and she'll send you notes like what a great win that was. And she does it with my wife nonstop. She did it with us for the rebrand.

Did she? Yeah, she did. I just didn't like it. I wanted to just stay on with it. But keep going.

Okay. Jared is just gives you very thoughtful advice.

Like he really takes that second to like think about it and be very thoughtful on how

“you should handle something very strategically.”

Both of them are thoughtful and purposeful in their friendships. It seems like they don't just have relationships just to have them. No. And a vodka my wife have a very special relationship. You know, and when they first moved her, you didn't know, right?

My wife was like, oh, I don't know. And then she's so obsessed with the vodka that a vodka just does so many great things for her. And what's my wife to win so much? It's it's really special. You have Tom Brady on the back of your book.

Weird. That's on the back of your book. Okay. That's a pretty big deal to have the go. Right.

There's a few goats on there. Just to be clear. I haven't gotten down the list. I'm starting with Tom Brady. Don't worry.

I won't miss the detail. Tom Brady to give you a testimonial. Right. That's a big deal. It's it's yes.

I think it's a it's a huge deal. It's so nice of him to be able to do that for me, which is great. Again, Tom lives in Miami. So I'm a go to person for Tom. But I just want, you know, listen, it's been great to see Tom.

You know, go through retirement. Tom go through a new, you know, really, you know, a new family situation. And to watch him win over and over again and just keep going. The heat. There's a reason why Tom's Tom.

“What are some advice that these people that you have access to?”

What what's some advice that they've given to you? You have Tom. You have Serena Williams. David Beckham. Mark Wahlberg.

What's advice that they're telling you? I'm out here. It's climate. I mean, all in their different ways, you know, not like I need. I love having mentors, but I, I'm so lucky to come across some of the greatest people in the world.

Not just celebrity wise, but also in business. And I think the way I look at things is I try to extract things from people that I, I really want to learn from. And there's of course with every person, you're not going to like everything that they believe in a hundred percent. There's just no way. So to have the ability to be able to take great things from people and then leave out the stuff that's not, you know, that's not for you is how I really get the most out of stuff.

I want to switch gears a little bit and talk about Miami specifically with the greatest city in the world. Yes. I've been begging you guys to move there. Okay. But if you're like, then you're like in Tampa.

I don't know. I don't know. Are you a stripper? The boss is excellent. Is that what a stripper?

She's not a stripper. I had to go. Just visit my aunts and say stripper. Not anymore.

And I'm just going to just never realize this is a joke.

Everybody. And I hope you're going to survive. Because you're in Tampa, okay. Okay. I want to know really if Mr. from Mr. Miami, what it actually took to break into that city and get to the top of the heat.

Because it is probably one of the most competitive markets in the world and continues to grow competitively. People think it's the, it's the gold line over there. And also if you read the history of Miami, like there, there were some rough and tumble people there that, that have controlled Miami, maybe for a long time. So I wonder what it actually took for you to break into that and what, and what is that?

I listen, I think I had to dominate my field in order to make it in Miami. I dominated dominated, dominated, dominated, dominated. I didn't do tennis. I didn't do this. I focused on my work.

I went the extra mile. I was in early last out. So what did that look like actually in the early days day today? Like, what did you have to do? Yeah, I had to get there by 9 a.m.

And I had to leave it. Like, I had to take a break at five or six to take a nap. Have some food, food, and go break back in. But like, no one in my friends will tell you, and people in the business will tell you. No one will outwork me.

Nobody.

“So that's what it was just like pure grit to terminate.”

Yeah. People are like, oh, just like, oh, it just happened. No man. And I'm there to make sure it's perfect. Even today, it just did like the players party a get go for the Miami open.

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Build the best relationships with all the key people in Miami for sure. Because listen, the locals are going to drive you business no matter what. You want to make sure you know every great person in Miami.

“And then I think you need to make it like you need to really focus on the details.”

I think people come into my place. I'm hyper focused on my details. You say build the best relationships. If there is someone listening that doesn't know how to go about building the best relationships. Start and elevators.

Say hi to someone listen. People are like, oh you're so confident. I didn't start off so confident. I was, I see if you see some of these old photos of me. I was kind of a heavier set guy.

I wasn't the best looking guy at the, the, the thing got for peptides. That being said, I think I started off just in an elevator being able to get enough courage to say hello and say, you have a good day and keep going about it that way. And then you start hosting some people for dinner. I love hosting people for dinner.

When you're inviting someone to dinner and you're hosting them, you're kind of like in that it's a different level for you, right? Because they're not, you're not like, so the conductor. Yeah. And listen, then I started curating experiences for people.

When people came to my, I mean, I would take them to winwood at that time. It was just a bubbling street art area. I would show people parts of my city that no one else would show them. And they felt like they were in the known, they connected with me. And then when I would take them out to eat, I would try to find the off the menu items.

The ones that the dishes that blew me away, I focused on that. Any chance you could get to show somebody an experience that they just can't do themselves. Changes the relationship. That is a great tip. It sounds like everyone says, oh, how do you just have somebody?

Like it didn't happen overnight. And no, I wasn't so confident that I thought I could talk to anybody at any time. And then that being a bartender definitely helped, right?

Because people always like, oh, I want to, I want to act.

“I want to go, you should go do some impromptu, you know, impromptu.”

What is it called? Improved. Improved. Because improv really gets you in that mindset too of being able to do stuff off the cuff. If someone were to follow and shadow you for a week,

what would they be surprised about and what would they be disappointed in? So it's a great question. I make all my interns spend a day with me. And we don't know it's just whatever. You don't know if someone's going to be there or not,

but he's going to be there, right? I think what people would be surprised with is how high-per-focused I am, meaning hour after hour like this, that when someone comes to a meeting with me, I'm really present in that meeting with them.

I'm not on my phone. I'm not trying to do a thousand other things while they're there.

To me, someone that's meeting with me is the most important person in the world at that time.

How do you think about social media and your own social personal brand with what you're doing? So I think it's important for me to just show what's authentic to me. I don't, I do my own Instagram. There's nobody doing my Instagram for me.

“I think it's also a great way for people to get a snapshot of your life.”

I think, I have a, listen, I think I have a pretty cool life and there's some interesting things that goes on. And I think it's to be able to share that on social media. It's great. You have spoken with Gary Braca. Yeah.

All love. And it seems to me, and I might be speaking out of turn, but it seems to me that he's helped change your health. Is that correct? Yeah, I mean, and his daughter Madison, another great, great person. Gary met me like right before, like right before COVID,

and I was already starting to go through that transition with a great trainer Anthony Rhodes. And then COVID happened, and I had the time to really hyper focus on my health and getting skinny and getting strong.

What are the things that you did to take control of your health?

“What are all the little things you mentioned, peptides?”

We want to know what peptides. I don't know my, I don't know the formula that I take, but I know it's a lot. It was a lot before, but is it for, like, is it? My management is a reminder, is it for sleep? No, sleep.

I take the neurogum sleep. I love neurogum sleep the dissolvable. It changed my life. I never heard of that.

You never heard of neurogum?

No. Okay. I'm going to get a send you some proud investor. No, but it's, neurogums at top 10 TikTok shop every week. Gen Z, the next generation.

This is how they, they sleep.

“Yeah, because there's caffeine in it as well.”

For the, there's a daytime and nighttime. And the neurogum daytime has like a half a cup of coffee in it. Is it for you? Without the crash, without the burn. No nicotine?

No nicotine in there. Uh, although I do love, I do unfortunately love nicotine. But I, what, I love sesh. A cigarette or like a.

No, I would never smoke a real life cigarette.

Now I do the sesh. It's investor and sesh. Investor and sesh. Investor and sesh. It's going to get into the best flavors.

It's the better for you. Nicotine pouch. Sesh. Okay. So go on.

You do your peptides. Keep that. I want to keep knowing all the little things that you do for health. Weird. Weird.

Okay. Weird. Anyway. So. Uh, what else?

I have a physio does dry needleing twice a week. It stretches me. I'm very old. So I need to keep my body in a, in a good position. I, uh, I do the peptides.

I, uh, I take symbiotica every day. Which, which, which is your favorite symbiotica? Well, I mean, listen at this point, it's Shane. So I used to love there. I still love it. The methylated bee. I do the vitamin D. I do the vitamin C. You go to the creatine? No, I don't do the creatine. I love the creatine. Right before 10 years away. You do the the goo creatine or do you like the powder powder? I don't know. I know the powder is I do the vanilla. The vanilla. It's so good. They're new creatine. You know every time it's stacks every time

It's a hopper dron or should be in come in. There's like 18 new products and I'm like, I'm trying to keep up. No, no, here. I'm just sleep or sell that no one is talking about

“the elder berry. It will love the elder berry. So different immune system. That's what I was going to say.”

That's what I was going to say. No, the number one. Number one, the glutathione. Really? So I get an IV once a week of Myers cocktail with a glue and I get I get exesomes once every six weeks. Exesomes like a phoenix. Oh, yeah. What do you mean? So it's an IV. It's like it's a top part of a stem attacks inflammation just goes fucking nuts on your body and you don't feel any different from getting the IV. But when you get your test results, I use it. Listen, I'm a Jewish guy. So I like everything. All of it's gone.

Oh, no, that means we're the probably the most unhealthiest race there is. Okay. It means it's just not good when you get your test results and this is making it better. It makes it amazing. Did you buy prints because you like tennis or did you play tennis and then buy prints? So I did prints with ABG before I even played tennis when I grew up Andre Agusee was to me was like watching him playing the US open and watching, you know, all these great tennis players play tennis with prints and to me it was a historic American country club brand.

And I always looked it was the first brand I ever really did and to be able to partner and have an iconic American brand like this IP.

I forget about tennis and then during COVID, I pick up tennis and now I become obsessed with tennis and look I have this tennis brand. I don't play tennis. I'm just worried about country club and collaborations and all that and now I care more about the on-court than I do about the off-court. What was it like for you in Sabolinka? Thank you in her speech. It was great. It was like the Super Bowl. I mean, that's pretty major. I mean, it was like the Super Bowl name, but I still can't believe you saw that, right?

She thanked three people in her speech and one of them was you. Yes. So that's great. I mean, listen, you build relationships, you try to add value over and over again. Like we talked about. And in my book, I talk about that's the main thing in a relationship is you don't go into a relationship to see what you can get out of it. You go into a relationship is how can I add value to that relationship? How can I make this person's life better? And seeing the look on their face when something great happens for them that you helped orchestrate is amazing.

How do you think about your relationship with Noah? I know they know it. Yeah, of course. I feel like I feel like he's sort of. It's interesting. I don't think it's a win-win relationship for Noah and I I get I take so much from him. I really do. Well, it's interesting because you guys are obviously like in a weird way. Like in the same way for no. It's a very good thing. It's a different way like competitive in a way. No, but yeah, for sure, especially in Vegas. Yeah, like it's you know, it's it's a very competitive market that being said.

I would love to tell you it's a win-win relationship between me and nobody. I do I take so much from him. He's such a great man.

I would love to say, hey, it's a win-win relationship. And it's just not. I go to these guys for everything. And they come back with just words of wisdom. For me, Jeff, so far, I'm lucky enough to have great people around me that I could go to for real advice. What are you going to them for and what's the

“advice they're giving back? I mean, there's a million things guys. I would love to tell you that I think”

I know it all or how would I deal with that situation or let me ask you a question. It's this feel weird to you like it feels weird to me. When something doesn't make me feel right.

I always want to ask maybe I'm looking at it wrong or maybe I'm misunderstanding. But my intuition

usually right to be honest with you, I should learn to trust it even more than I do. Are your parents blown away at what you've done? So my father passed away, but before he passed away, Live was already ripping. And for him, it was great for me to be able to tell him the numbers. It's it's night. And because my dad was a president of SunTrust who's a very conservative banker and the opposite of what I do, right? My mom's so alive and she's just, you know,

she's like, this is crazy. What goes on with you? We talked a lot about a lot of the good stuff. You mentioned this earlier a little bit. What's it like when someone gets on your bad side? So I try to let things go more now. But I mean, listen, I try to like being their serial any chance I get when someone's just, when I don't know, I just, now I'm at that place in my life where I don't think I have to like, in your younger years,

what my younger years were really bad. No, I've been honest with you. No, I've been honest with you.

You got to be honest with me. If you were skinny, confident, I'd just never get into it. But now it's the

boss sticks. No, but listen, when I was younger, I would really try to ruin people's lives, like that would that would cross me or whatever. I remember when a new club would open against me on like, you know, listen, live on Sunday. It's a very dominant night and this new night club had openly tried to start a hip-hop night against me. And I would make the talent cancel the day of. That's not always say, how would you get them to say, wait, and make them say,

family emergency. So they knew every time that this talent would cancel, they would say, family emergency, they knew who it was. And I would send them my sales from Sunday night, Monday morning to their emails and say, how was your night? Here's how my night's going. No, I was a really sick human being sick sick. No, but I mean, like, I think it's it's honest. And how would you get that talent to do that? Because obviously you have to travel a pretty good

relationships. Would they go play at live? No, not when they were already booked there. And then

if, if I, I would say, listen, you took this job. I'm never going to book you again for the rest of my

life, not just for live on Sunday, but for the, or live, but for the rest of my life. And let me tell you something. I'm not going away anytime soon. This new club, they're from out of the country.

“Nobody knows who they are. I think you should really think about your relationship with me over the”

long game with them. What happened to the new club? They're gone. They're gone. So what happened? But I would send them to my sales. And you know what? I see them once in a while. They talk whether they go, if you know, fucked up, it was that you would send me your sales from the night before. And this is when live on Sunday was just the pinnacle of it. So what made you evolve? It was that your kids? My wife may be a little bit. She calming, no, uh, also people around me,

like, you don't always have to, like, sometimes not doing anything. Just, you know, so what happens now? Someone tries to come up against one of your, your host, there's so much competition. I just know way. I could control it like I did before. People were like, how do you let all these New York restaurants enter my, I mean, like, okay, like, what? I can't stop someone from coming to Miami. But what I can do is try to build relationships so big with people that they

feel at least for that split second. Maybe they shouldn't go to that other restaurant before coming to mind. And I want them to at least make sure they stop in one of my places while they're there for two or three days. But that's relationship based guys. And that's focusing on that and making sure that person knows what's important to me is that you come and support my places. When you go now, I see you doing this a lot. When you go and speak at schools, you have a course,

too, right, a class. So I taught a college course for five years at FIU. No, one five weeks, three hours, I just wrote a book. The, the course inspired the book. So I want to spend the time to take those five years of courses to put it into a book. That's cool. So back at that time, and now it's in the book. What was the main thing that the schools were basically working you for, working with you? What do you want to say? Well, they said, let's say, anyone could go and say,

I go to every school and go tell your story and they bring 50 or 100 cancer certificates. I want to do 500 students. I want to teach a college course that they get college credit for.

“And I want to talk about the things they don't teach you in school. And I think that's what's”

really important. They don't teach you about how important IP is. They don't teach you about relationships. They don't tell you about long game and like go all the way. You know, all these kids

But now there's platforms. There's ways for them to be entrepreneurial, right? They don't need, like, for us, it was very hard to be entrepreneurial back then. Maybe you trained some baseball cards you were an entrepreneur. But now there's so many ways for them to start their own

businesses. It's amazing. What mistakes do you see young kids making on YouTube or opening a restaurant

or just running a business or being an entrepreneur in general when they're young? Not really taking it as a business, thinking that it's like a fun time kind of thing. Like for me,

“these are real assets. These are real businesses. And you have to treat it like a business.”

You have to build real infrastructure. You have to have HR. You have to, you know, you have to know what's going on. You can't just be the talent and you're more. You have to have a real business sense. I bet you really had to do HR with everything you've got. You have the Narliest HR in the United States. You're HR. Your HR is literal. Rigomord is katatonic. No, no, no. So we have a very, I'm a very good HR. I have the best HR.

Julie Howell, greatest HR. Let's give her a shout out. Julie Howell, let's make sure we get a shot. She has taught me many things to not scream and not say you're going to find their kids. I thank you Julie Howell for that. What are you like as a father? You have two girls. What are you like? Are you sorry? I would think that my girls, yeah, obviously they know to come to me. Okay. We like to call it 90-10. 90 percent is a bellot 10 percent me on any decision.

What is what do you mean? Like kids say to they go dad. We know we have to go to mom because she's 90 percent of the decision making and I'm 10 percent of the decision making. Okay, and what are you like as a dad? I just want to be cuddled and loved by my kids so much. They're two

“different kids by the way. I'm sure it's, you know, but I think it's a coolest thing in the world.”

I really don't take it for granted at all. I have pink shoes on right here. You know what I'm saying? How are they different? They're complete opposites and it's the same mix that made them. What do you mean is one more like you and one more like Isabella? So the first one is Kaya and my daughter Kaya doesn't want sugar. Drink screen juice doesn't hurt anyone's feeling. She cares about everyone's feelings. She just wants happiness for everybody. Then there's Vida.

And Vida loves her when up to me. Daddy, Daddy, that the person tripped or the person spilt something on them or they felt because they know that I love that when people tripped or somebody like her, you know they she knows I love it. Oh, like you like the triplets. I'm saying you love when someone trips on stairs or like get to mustard on their shirt from the hot dog. I'm going to start saying some memes. And she knows she's like Daddy, so and so and unlike.

So I connect with them on different levels. I see a lot of myself in Vida. I see a lot of myself in Kaya and I see a lot of my wife in both. I just want to say that they were so nice to my kids. Both like I have like they were so sweet to both of them. Right. Like very, very nice.

“And you should see them when they're walking to room. They go hi. I'm Kaya nice to meet you. They introduce”

themselves. They do the whole thing. All right. Who should buy your book? Take it personal. I'm so happy you asked who should buy my book. I really feel like everyone should buy my book. And I'm not just saying like that because there's life lessons in there for everybody. It's not just celebrity. It's not just hospitality. It's life. I am so excited. I got this custom book. You guys have to see it if you're on YouTube. This is so major. Thank you for bringing this. The next time

you come on this show, let me look in the camera. What will the name of the show be? Will the name of the show be then? Michael show. I like that. I can manage. I might have a

new last name. You never know. The next time I do this show with you, it's in Miami at either one of

your restaurants or your house. It's about a him and her perspective. So you really, guys, I think you guys kept asking me is my wife coming in my wife coming to you really wanted my wife and not me do you use me to get to my wife? No, I didn't want we didn't want her on the show and I'll tell you why. Isabella if you're listening. We already had her on the show. We want to get the lay of the land. So then we want to get the lay of the land with you. But the next time you come on it's to

guys. This is the honest truth. Sometimes couples want to come on because we're a couple and they're like talk to us both. But if it's the first time you're doing an interview with someone. No, no, you got to get to it. It's awkward because you're like, you're trying to have two ways to tell me something. It's like a three-cent. People will come on to be like, okay, come on with me and my wife and I'm like, yeah, we could do that if we an additional comment. But we couldn't have this conversation about your

book and what you were here. Yeah, because then we'd be able to all be about her jewelry brand is a

grutman jewelry. I listen to next time. But the problem is it's a really hard for an investor and by the way,

we don't necessarily like it when people try to interview us as a couple because they don't they don't know what to do either. There's a very few interviewers that know how to interview like two people that want to know what that is. I'm just putting it out there. I could we're at the restaurant

I love that. We want to we'll get the relationship juice. No, we've got a Miami ship coming up. We

“got to figure this out. True. It's not for a stop in Tampa for one season. No, there's no Tampa.”

There's no Tampa. I got to go check the yeah, I got to go check the register. I'll see two thousand.

Where can everyone find your book and find you on social media? Well, at David Grutman is on social media

“and the book is everywhere from Amazon, the Barnes and Nobles to everywhere.”

What's restaurant should they start with in Miami and Vegas? Okay, great question.

Only one. Poppy steak for sure in Vegas. That was built for Vegas, but Komodo I'm telling you

“it's amazing in Las Vegas at the film blue. I have not been and then the next day go to live beach.”

I've not been. So we're going to Vegas in October and October. I'm going to see Metallica in the sphere. I'm really excited about it. Are you? Yeah. Are you excited about that? I'm not so excited about my music and the sphere to be honest. I'm excited. I'm excited about your restaurant. But I want to go check 'cause I know it's symbiotic. Is doing something with you guys over there in found blue. Yeah, it was symbiotic. We have a symbiotica wellness bar there. Yeah, I'm going to even have the vitamin C

in the salad dressing. I'm going to stay at the font blue. I'm going to check and I'll go to your restaurants. Okay, and we're going to do the whole thing. I'll not go anywhere else. Uh, you're a visionary entrepreneur. I'm so inspired by you. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Thank you for my congratulations on the book and a crush.