Congressman Ro Khanna Wants John Kerry’s Epstein Testimony

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Start your free trial at Shopify.com/AU. Thanks for having me, I'm so happy to be here and thanks for being so independent and brave because I know a lot of people are sort of tribal about the obscene story, but it hits both sides and it's the power structure that allowed him to exist for so many decades and that is why

“nearly a thousand women have been abused that we know what that's important to be at the eye,”

which is shocking number so. And so many people want this to go away and I'm like, no, I'm going to probably talk about this for the whole rest of my life. It would take that long to get to the bottom of all of it.

Right, and it's mostly, I hate to say this, but a lot of men, I've never heard of a woman say,

they want this story to go away, nobody's heard of they don't want this to ever go away. But yeah, I mean, I first heard John Kerry's name in connection with Epstein, through Virginia and as you know, I traveled around the country with her and we were looking for witnesses to cooperate the story of her horrific abuse and it was such a wild story and there was so much intensity and it was graphic and it was heartbreaking and seeing the door slam in her face

was so heartbreaking and I remembered the shock I felt when she told me that Kerry was in his world because this was also at the height of Epstein's sex trafficking operation and just a few years before

“he ran for president in 2004. Remember him and so I, she encountered him and it was something that”

always stuck with me and I was always sort of waiting for that fall to drop like I wanted to look

through the files like I wanted to see more and more and more and we're even, you know, thought like the mainstream media would look into it a bit more and they just never did so I guess Virginia gave me that tip right and so I started looking and it really painted this intricate web, this paper trail between Epstein and Kerry and the Epstein files and if you kind of put it together and you know a lot about Epstein and his interests, we could go in like a hundred different

directions with this story but for him and his interests which were as you can see from his nonprofit it's like he was obviously supporting Israeli settlements and well it might not actually know as much about John Kerry as we do so maybe let's start

“up with like who is John Kerry he hasn't been in the news in a little while but he was a former”

presidential candidate he's been like basically every job you could be nominee nominee nominee candidate he didn't make it all the way but he he has had basically every job you can possibly have in government he's been all different levels and he's been in a proper way yeah Secretary of State power player for a long time married into a super rich family that makes catch up or something isn't behind family he married into the hands family and it was you found this picture there's because

while there's a lot of when you look at the Epstein files there's a lot of stuff that pops out the John Kerry stuff isn't quite as in your face and I'm like maybe it's in the three and a half

million files that they like haven't given to us yet but this would be a person that a lot of people

would want to protect John Kerry yeah so John Kerry also was in the national security council underbinding the Biden administration he was a climate and boy he was Secretary of State he believed himself and others placed bets on him and he would be a president of the United States like top of the top in in the party at one time and so he was out there campaigning for Biden too as a started but just to go back for a minute so Epstein first donated him in 1991 his Senate campaign

actually interestingly that was during the Oslo Accords that was the first agreement between Palestine and Israel and he then donated to him again in the presidential and then he sent him this weird package after he lost to his his his pack like a sort of leadership pack that would allow him to have national like political relevance a FedEx package which is seemed to know much about but what you see in the files is first of all I want to just start this by saying John Kerry

sure of him with Epstein's house staff in Epstein's home yeah and I don't know if you want to if

“you can pull this up but also his chef which is something we haven't seen before um I believe his name”

is Mollon David Richard Mollon okay he gave a sworn testimony to the FBI it's called a 302 and he said that he recalled seeing John Kerry on Epstein's plane and he gave a testimony in 2006 so this isn't like we gave it a testimony 20 years later can't remember if I saw him or not he said he cooked on the plane and he remembered seeing him so um and then you know you have victims saying that uh Epstein talked about Kerry a lot said he was friends with him and then you

kind of add in all of these um emails in which Epstein is offering to introduce people to Kerry

uh will secretary say in this now that's the steve band it so like as this is in 2018 by the way

“so steve band is Trump's advisor at this point and you know a lot of time together um here”

he is Epstein is saying on the right I'm sitting here with Kathy Rummer he means Rummer that was Obama's former deputy um council like lawyer essentially in the White House right and he she says uh he says if you're around the 18th in DC John Kerry so just he can meet Kerry then it follows up and says well Kerry's not coming anymore but burns will be there his deputy so bill burns was Kerry's deputy secretary of state and he went on to be the CIA director

under Biden he spent 32 years in service and if you know anything about the state department it is very close to connect to the CIA is that diplomats are constantly running assets agent sources for um the CIA these assets these sources they come to the embassy so they're very closely intertwined so it kind of makes sense that he would move on to the CIA and Epstein at the time is trying to cultivate a relationship with bill burns he invites bill burns and his wife to the

island we see that he met with well burned twice offering him help while he was deputy secretary of state getting jobs in the private sector connects him over emails a Peter Teele bill burns is people say oh he may have connected him he also offered to connect him to read Hoffman because he was looking for job oh god and Waltstein is talking read Hoffman by the way created LinkedIn right well is like a conservative bogey man now but creative PayPal is a tech science um so there are

a lot of names that you guys but imagine this scenario Epstein is writing that he's gonna have bill burns

basically a spy in the CIA I mean a spy in state department Peter Teele who does a lot of you know

he does defense deals now with the state with with our country and he would brock the former prime minister of Israel who also was a defense minister which oversees the massod which is the seat it is the CIA of Israel yeah but for some reason are scary like I don't know there's a little scary are these are the people who did the beepers and stuff yeah the murder of an author is like saying they're just yeah they they're definitely because there's really state constantly being targeted

and these really people but it is but also wasn't glean Maxwell's dad like allegedly wrapped up with the most side and this is crazy it's off the side of the right right he gets buried in the amount of olives which is reserve for kings and princes in Israel after he's mysteriously dies on his yacht in the canary islands and he looks like too much I feel like a crazy person like we're writing a movie and then we're like no we're reading evidence files I'm like holding back a lot I know

I'm trying to be keep it as like a tight to the like files and what I know as possible and so what you know Virginia told me she also told a number of other people and I was with another survivor and when she said this and other people separately so yeah and I've spoken to since and here

“okay carry scheme to that risk schemes subject line yeah he's dreaming up so I think that”

from based on what I've all the emails have seen place like a long shot bet on carry that he's going to be something one day we'll have more influence thanks to that and you see it Hillary gets

time Biden has no money so carry can buy him out of race wow but then he fantasizes about this

“scheme with Kathy Rumler the Obama deputy lawyer and he fantasizes about it with this very shady”

Norwegian diplomat which takes me back to the asshole courts okay let me know when you're ready for that everybody you want to take a beat let's take a two second there because I want to talk about the care the rumler Obama situation and all the time that I spent with Biden over the time

that he was president got to meet him or talk to him or do whatever there was always this thing

with him where he felt like Obama didn't really respect him didn't really like pick him he didn't feel like he they go bomb a treated him right or backed him the way that he should have he always had this like deep wound when it came to Obama it felt like like that he didn't they he didn't treat him well enough or that he wasn't that on his side or that Obama's staff didn't like you know jump to endorse Biden when he wanted to run for president and whatnot and I wonder like how many more layers

there were EP though yeah I guess so I know he and she didn't he treated her the way that Biden

treated him or whatever like they always do the but the EP always feels like they're getting

shot did they get the worst job for shit and then they never get the kind of love that they think they deserve from the president but when Biden did get to be the president I wonder if he got access to any kind of like information where like did Obama favor carrier something I just wonder like what the T was between the girls now that we can see like all of this like awkward

“democratic like backstabbing that's happening in gossiping. I know I think it's weird I wonder why I think”

they just like they knew that carry was too elitist and I think with like probably Obama's credentials and the fact that he went together and he's got a little thing. Oh there and he's just he's just a little too cosmopolitan as they say right so they they probably needed scranton Joe to kind of

yeah well they knew that he could help them when Pennsylvania which was critical right I think

it came down to just brass facts politics so Epstein is gaming yeah Epstein's scheming he's always scheming so okay remember the Sultan who tells Epstein the Emirati Sultan I loved the torture video yes and also was sending him like information about Asian massage rooms that he went to and like that he did a full package he was like forever trying to brag to Epstein about horrible

“things that he had done yes exactly very weird well he had to step down from his job and just”

or what it's worth this is very weird but he that you know about I love the torture video yeah the Justice Department redacted his name I know why they were they failed to redact the names of survivors but felt that his name had to be adopted and if I know that well correctly which I do you're not allowed to redact a name for just for any reason it has to have national security purpose or they have to be okay because the Saudis own so much of the Trump wealth they were like

oh yeah but that's out there I mean who knows it sounds like it it's Friday we're shit talking and speculating but this is okay but here's what we do know when Kerry was in the United Arab Emirates there is wow yeah not up so quick southern I'd been saloon yeah exactly when Kerry was in the Emirates who asked Epstein of all people so connect him to him certainly yeah and then you had so John Kerry did have direct contact with Jeffrey Epstein so you're sure from the first time we know from

the sworn testimonies that he was around him he's in a house he was you know on the plane and now it appears we don't have any emails from John Kerry back to Epstein but then again not a lot of people email especially old people um Epstein is constantly offering access to John Kerry to people right and he's weird a lot of reasons want to be in touch with him you know his interests in the Iran nuclear deal which John Kerry was working on you know he's gonna want to make sure

that it benefits Israel right and so there's that and then Terrahay Rod Larson who is for everyone who may not know him but may have heard of his son his son killed himself last sadly he and his sibling were designated $10 million from Epstein's will and that is how deeply intertwined Epstein was with this Norwegian diplomat very senior one he was the main

Palestine and um he borrowed money from Epstein obviously Epstein gave him this this grant as well

his kids and he also wrote these says for Russian girls who were victims of Epstein to come over to this country Terrah man who is a highly compromised figure now in a normal functioning country where the justice department does the job that its citizens pay them to do yeah or way in Norway's economic crime unit is investigating him and his wife because his wife

“was also involved in this Epstein financial relationship and also was a key architect of the Oslo”

Awards now the Oslo Awards are something that have been like highly contested because it vastly favored Israel right of course the other part of it is that the files are still missing I don't know where I've heard that one before but to this day the Oslo like the Oslo Awards files are missing now we don't know that Terrah and Epstein were friends and because we don't really have email right but this man is obviously willing to get into financial entanglement with shady figures

and that would obviously bring undue influence and this is exactly the kind of thing that Jeffrey Epstein wouldn't want to have influence over in his pal Ahlubarak now and that's all coming back with like and Terrah was at that meeting in that meeting that he said happened that his house too

“with Peter Teele and right and the whole thing although Burns is set teams that he didn't go to that”

so you know that it keeps going and it's just you know he writes in his contacts a core my best contacts he puts John Kerry in there oh my god yeah it just it's really it's all changed the the the story from the Kerry team too from like I'd barely knew him and now we know from the files that he was around much more and I've seen whether it was perceived access or proximity he was using it as currency and it it's it's something that really deserves scrutiny I guess

I I noticed on the weekend that Virginia died that uh that Kerry deleted his ex account

which was strange he had three million people following it he's not only on LinkedIn

which is they just said that was because they think ex is toxic which is fair but still the archive yeah it's all geared and um you know I mean there's a lot more and everyone can go to TerrahPullMary.com and read this me bit for yourself you can read it you can see the documents you can see the emails there's a lot it was not I booked 2000s of pages I've been working on this for a long time really since August and I've just felt like I've got a

there was something that was really pulling me towards that and so far we're getting action in this the sense that I wrote Connor who's on the house oversight and government reforms committee he is calling on Kerry to testify and I asked um before the committee and I asked Kerry's team if they it he'll voluntarily do it and I haven't heard back so there wasn't the the Norwegian royal prince or whatever is also facing a rape trial right now like

I never heard so much about Norway until Epstein and this other sexual assault trial that's going

on there's like a lot of corruption coming to light this year I know everyone's sort of fantasizes about a lot of these Scandinavian countries as if they're so great but then you know that in the darkness in these places that have very little light sometimes not all great things that are happening I'm nothing against the Norwegians watching but um this is yeah it's a very complicated

“complicated story I think a big part of it is that there's just there was just so many”

influence campaigns sort of happening and and I've seen trying to be a player and in all these places yeah that's Steve Bannon been called to testify no and he should be well he should be he's still doing it here's the problem so I just want to break this down for everybody because yeah the whole of been called it's insane like so many more people needs to be called to testify right you know right now James Comer he's a Republican and he's leading the committee oh well

yes it's really difficult to get um to get something out of committee like a subpoena when you got for Republicans in leadership I think that Democrats win in the next election not because they've done any favors for themselves hmm maybe because they are not their Republican party and hopefully they will use that subpoena power to for good and to actually

this frankly like the first FBI call was made during the Clinton years in 1996 and it wasn't answered

you know we just have to deal with it now we just have to deal with it is how I feel I'm like look

“you got to deal with it and you know and I think that's been the resistance and why I'm so”

grateful to like Rep Garcia who is like I wasn't around for I don't care if John Kerry's legacy is ruined or whoever else is like that shouldn't be shouldn't have protected people for this long if they're so worried about it now like it just has to come out there has to be transparency it's such a such a like I think inevitable thing that this will come to light one way or another there's just too many people that want to see it um so true and you know I was listening to

Virginia's voice because we were like looking we put together a YouTube kind of like presentation investigative thing on this and I was listening to her voice and what she said that like everybody that walked into Epstein's house I'm like a pizza delivery boy would know that there was something wrong they weren't pictures of naked girls everywhere young girls older and very man this was off there was something weird and even how we're blunt makes it it himself everybody knew about

Epstein I knew about Goliwaz I mean everybody knew who he was and and and why is Bill Burns who is the deputy secretary say going into his home after he's a sex offender like it just doesn't make sense well that was the other thing from this week is that Howard Lutnik had to give a deposition of sorts and he had told Trump apparently to his face no I cut ties with Epstein in 2005

I've never been to the island I've never done this that the other but then they get him on oath where

there could be some sort of like repercussions for perjury and lying and suddenly he's been to the island in 2012 but he's been to the house and he's done all these other things and now folks are

“like okay if Trump's thing was I'm keeping Lutnik around because I believe he cut ties with”

him in 2005 even though Jeffrey Epstein had already been a known predator in 2005 but okay and he went to we now find out that after the 2008 conviction that Lutnik went to the island in 2012 well into the we know the island is the bad place where bad things happen realm will Trump still be able to stick by him or is does this change things this is Lutnik saving grace the Epstein story stays Lutnik because a lot of people around him do not like him yeah and the

thing that is saving him right now be is the fact that the scandal around him is Epstein oh you take I don't think that I don't think Trump will cut anyone off for the Epstein scandal because when you turn around and that person's gone who's right behind them right it gets closer to Trump himself who is mentioned in the files how many times and this is what I'm saying like you see these references in the files there's there's so much more we're not saying we didn't have email for a

“very long time you have to remember that like we're putting together pieces based on three million”

files 300 gigabytes when there are 40 terabytes in the Epstein's hands there were micro cameras placed in Kleenex boxes according to emails with Epstein's Larry Vasoski's pilot saying there's so small you can't even see them this place is bugged right they know and

it they know everything and in 2.5 you know million files that we know have been without

we've really gotten 1% of them or something right yeah it's like crazy insane and even with that though the optimism I have is that it's still coming out right like Julie K. Brown did get recognized by the Pulitzer recently which was so delayed but like it's so meaningful it's meaningful that it's happening now it's good that it's happening now you're still finding new things to report about that are exposing major people in power even without the files

that would have made it easier to just like have the transparency we're seeing reporting from the Guardian and different other folks talking about how Leon Black is courting judges to try and diminish the power of victim's testimonies who it called said that that he had raped them when they were teenagers and he was trying to like buy them off and all this stuff folks are talking even though it is so scary to be talking you're not going to be a dictator I said no no no other

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picture of him I feel like you need a picture of him I'll throw a picture of yes yeah because he he's a violent accused by at least three women that we know of sexual abuse based he

“denies it they have settled whatever happened um I think one of them dropped the case but here's”

the point he was forced out of the firm he founded Apollo it's a major private equity firm okay and when he was forced out of the firm I mean he's still part of it like he was making money off

of it he's still a financial ties to it when he was forced out um they have $150 million to

Jeffrey Epsey for us a state planning and accounting by the way but well then New York times found out that some really great investigative reporting that actually most of that money was used to pay off women okay and so yeah this guy yeah he appoints oh my god I love your visuals you're such it like a job too I'm in so impressed that by appointed the U.S. attorney who is currently leading the Epseyne investigation and handing over the files to comply with the Epseyne transparency act

“J. Clayton to his job when he left he announced it then I was in J. Clayton and so J. Clayton”

the guy who should technically be investigating him I mean he's in an FBI presentation just like the presentation of possible co-conspirators think that J. Clayton the guy who got it so by the way J. Clayton when he joined the U.S. attorney's office the Southern District New York

and he has financial disclosures he says yeah at least $1.5 million in holdings from Apollo

what do you that and so I mean at least disclose it there needs to be a sort of financial disclosure so I asked Todd Blanch about it at the French master's residence oh right when he had to like escort it away what he's very guard he says security detail that we pay for by the way you yeah pay for he's the acting attorney general like just I can't even describe it his wife was

“in the gown he was in a tuck very having drinks they're just swanning around this gorgeous embassy”

where purple lights are everywhere and yeah and like reported they're going up to him to kiss the ring and I was just I just asked him aren't are you concerned about this conflict of interest in the Southern District work how can you really and I can go out and like that hard be because I just thought like you're at a cocktail party you're trying to you're one shot really you know start there then go in to use that across more pedophile do you know she said but he shouted

down so if it was like Pam Bonnie like you don't know what you're talking about you don't know

you're talking about I read the files you've never read the files I'm like well they're

public love to I'd love to read the files you actually you've seen more of them hey you're right I'd love to come in this is why it goes to me you ruined our beautiful light I was like really I asked him like two or three questions and I've ruined their beautiful night look acting attorney general and will probably be the attorney general because they will not be able to confirm anyone else who is his wife this is the thing with these these mag of women they sit around and they wait

for their day to be like pretty special star like it's the biffy bopty booboo tea could we're gonna take you to the ball and then he gets asked a question casually by a reporter just you know conversationaly and she's like you ruin my night like babe we live in a democracy still we still live in a world you are husband is actively hurting the nation yeah it's actually works for me yeah you know that crazy this if I pay taxes and he's paid by taxpayers he works for me he works for you

and I represent in my opinion as a journalist I feel like I represent the people yes I asked him a question that I felt that people would genuinely want to know about is he aware of conflicts of interest in his own department so there is some sort of transparency don't come to the journalism dinner if you don't want to see a journalist I guess it was the White House correspondence dinner it's not like you went into Trump's like a mag or crypto ball and asked him this it was our party he's not

she I mean come on girl back I hesitate to bring this up but it's on a Friday so get ready jump scare

“when I was looking for a photo there's this photo that hasn't been I believe like corroborated or”

whatever as definitely on black but this photo where people are like that's Leon black and I'm like okay I don't think it's him I don't know if it's him but it's in the obscene files and people are like this is a photo of him but anyway we don't know that that's true but if I had to see it everyone else had to suffer too but yeah ruined their beautiful night and he didn't answer the question is he one of the ones do you think he brings his wife to work with him too the way that that heck Seth does lately

he has like no friends so he has to bring Jenny around with him or maybe that's for him to stay sober she's a sober coach I guess so I don't know or just a clash as that bring your wife to events day and then uses a security detail to protect her it doesn't same like a pop star like a country you could not have drug out of me cash Patels girlfriend hiding in a hotel room during the White House correspondence dinner holding hands with another man during the shooting I

would have never ever allowed people to publish that if I were him and he's like no she was totally

here and and and one of my people was keeping her safe and they were holding hands like you could have never got that out of me you hands with the security guard that they're using I don't know who it was that she was holding hands with it the report was holding hands with another man in a hotel room when this happens this is this is the chef who remembers Carrie on the plane oh okay this is in

“our favorite Adam Perry Lane yeah and they said Erin Baroque but I think they mean a who Baroque so you”

remember Carrie and a who Baroque on the plane okay got it yeah not Adam Perry Lane this is the this is the actually the other one the brand actually helped yeah David Richard Mullin oh my god just the

constant like amounts of shit that there is with these people is nuts and the other crazy thing

that I wanted to talk to you about if we can we'll take a quick break from Epstein and then we may come back to it because there's still like more like what happened with Amanda and Garo what do we think about the suicide note I mean I talked to her actually this past week but she seems very unwell it because Amanda and Garo was like out here talking about stuff and then didn't anymore yeah she doesn't want to until the things are settled down with her son she said

okay well I understand that simply did have her deported and they're just leveraging every part of this fucking place. I gotta listen if my if my access to my son was on the line I would probably be lying well also I just think she didn't expect that she was going to become like a national sensation overnight right? No right that it would go so far do you think this is real? I like that the New York Times called it purportedly well because it's not even from the time

he allegedly actually killed himself it was from like the one before and a four time homicidal maniac is apparently the person who found this note and handed it over and it sat in his file I was like why are we even reporting on this? I don't know I mean listen I don't believe anything from the the Justice Department because they zero credibility in my mind they've done nothing to build credibility with the American people and we're just supposed to take with

they feed us I mean it doesn't no fun line he does say it a lot he does say no fun a lot I mean it re reads like a Trump tweet so I was like yeah they're all kind of the same level of like dumb like five times and then the other thing I'm wondering about is like what's going on with Galayan these days have you heard anything new about her? Hmm just that she's like trying still

“trying to get a pardon I think she's gonna get one horrible I probably right don't you think she will?”

Yeah I mean I'm gonna like the same big diddy gets a pardon so that yeah it's like turn this into a whole like spectacle in which we can't separate the lines between any of that there's like no moral clarity and reporters or there has our spinning figure out which story to cover because it's just like constant and now they're saying oh folks that she was imprisoned with got punished for speaking ill of her and I'm like who is the warden at this prison and like why do

they care so much about her? This did bring me this brought me a little bit of joy though not joy but like the library dedicated to the Epstein files opening in New York are you gonna get a chance to go over there do you know about this yet? Yeah I do you know I do know who was behind it because like

you know what I mean but yeah I'm gonna check it out I'm gonna be down there I'm out as well

but something to do line I wonder who will like who will be most likely to go and like what will the rules be like you know you go to like the Holocaust Museum you don't take selfies in there are you supposed to like be reverent and quiet while you're in the Epstein files museum or you it is a better to like take pictures to like make a viral moment so it keeps attention on the case it feels like a pop-up to me like do we really think that's gonna be there for that long?

“Right well that's why I'm like what's the protocol for how you act in there though like”

take a lot of pictures try to make some files are you actually gonna read true Epstein files? Oh somebody went and they said it's somber they went today panicked writer said they went today and it's somber feels quiet kind of like a church yeah I guess that makes sense. Yeah it's it just feels like a little hokey to be honest I'm just hokey I'm not feeling it right well I was like who made it what's the one like that like a true like it feels like temporary

and I feel like if you're gonna do this then you better have the funds to keep it forever. Yeah or like have a purpose to panic maybe because you went there today tell us like what did they say to you when you when you went in there like did they say hey like be somber or oh you can take photos it's Ellie Leonard okay you take photos but not remove books from the shelves and it's there until the end of May okay and are like if you can't take books how do you

know that there's like files in there yeah very heavy security I don't know it really files

“inherently you have to register to go okay okay but like did you actually see files did you see”

files in there or do you think this is just an illusion of files like I'm like a different them out not like the idea of a pop up memorial feels very politically driven I don't like politicizing this thing that's the problem I hate that and I admit it's that's why like I've been on this story since 2019 and everyone's like oh and I'm like I get it I've been screaming this from the rooftop but like you can't just like care now because it works for your people right um kitty things

got a video up we'll check that out yeah yeah it has to be like a true like memorial that stands right past of time and honors it doesn't it's not a stunt I don't want to another freaking Epstein stunt I'm sorry I know I totally feel you on that and I hate a roadside memorial my brother

hated roadside memorials he was like please if anything it happens to me never entered did so we didn't

but like putting up a roadside memorial can be a thing that like brings a lot of piece to people but then to your point when does it come down and how do you deal with it like so we have this Epstein museum for a month and there's a lot that of good that could come out of it in terms of keeping it in the public and cultural conscious or maybe people can find things but when it comes down like what has happened from it and how do you know when to take it down like what do you do with

it you know it's hard yeah there's places to call the DOJ yeah leave messages oh they're calling it the Donald J Trump and Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Reading Room like again no I don't like that now I'm very now I'm very into a political thing like stop using these girls pain right they're not even that political like yeah what I voted for mega yeah even they did and I hate to say it but like when this story wasn't so driven by the left yeah they it wasn't like that like and I'm happy

that there's accountability and that people are talking about like Trump needs to have accountability for this too just like everybody else like stop using these girls' props and so over it I know and they don't do I really they like and I'm sure they really get right now and it's just it's

“because the full story if you really wanted to the full story you have to call in all the icons”

from both sides and you better be willing to tear down basically the foundations of our political

financial research universities you know every major institute technology this touch everything but as if you use it for political purposes you're not trying to get down to the heart of it yeah some survivors have visited so I'd love to know like kind of what their thoughts were on it in the space yeah for a Danny went there you know I was bummed that fewer people didn't come to Virginia's memorial like I felt like more people have sort of been there yeah I didn't really

know about it until I saw you were at it not that I was in DC that we can but certainly more people should have been at that which is good but survivor not everyone knew her but like she really wasn't wasn't the speaker out and she really paid the price for it and I'm like and I know it's hard

such ways well I mean you see where it's going it's like really difficult to give somebody the confidence that if they come forward with something as vulnerable and damaging and life changing as coming out with the already vulnerable and horrible and life changing thing that happened to you again like it's totally understandable to me that they don't want to come forward until they see some accountability then maybe they'll feel like okay I can come forward now exactly yeah it's it's

so true I just I wish that they felt like there was a reason too yeah well when I'm not thinking

about the horrors of the Epstein files which is nearly always my new hyper fixation has been the

hunt of Iris are you following the updates on the hunt of Iris no I haven't tell me about it okay so there are 17 Americans on this ship the ship that took off was to take people on on a vacation

“essentially to the most remote areas in the entire world where people don't live and honestly shouldn't”

go and they're saying that maybe this is where they contracted the hunt of Iris which is the virus that you get from potentially inhaling particle-erised rat urine I was like I cannot imagine a more horrific thing to like in New York by the way God but like virus they're just that they're this time it's integrated particle-erised rat urine I was like good cryus that could think of nothing

worse and so there's these 17 Americans on this ship and it's docked in the Canary Islands and so

the United States is working with Spain to get these 17 Americans off of this ship and bring them to Nebraska why are they bringing them to Nebraska you may ask and doesn't Nebraska know that they're bringing 17 people protect potentially with the hunt of Iris to Nebraska it's because that is where the national quarantine unit is it's a federally funded quarantine facility and the Nebraska bio-containment unit is there they're using an airplane that was specially created during

COVID-19 that contains a bio-containment unit on the airplane and like specialized people to fly the plane and nurses and doctors so they're doing they're in the process of doing this right now

and they will be bringing the people in there and trying to continue to have them quarantine and

check on them the thing that I in my research about it I was like okay well what does this place look like in like how many beds do they have there are 17 people that they are bringing back but as of like even the 2020 pandemic there were only 10 beds so I'm like are you gonna like bunk bed people in there like that or you're gonna like like this is kind of what they look like this was like a practice run of the place it's like COVID I'm getting COVID flashback it does look like

COVID and it and it's it's probably like really cool like if I knew more about the science behind it it's probably really like a cool thing that Nebraska can do but if I were in Nebraska I'd be freaked in but these are all the diseases and viral infections that they can treat there maybe they want to take some of the folks from the Texas measles outbreak and give them some help but I don't see how to virus on this list but apparently it falls under disease X new in emerging

“special pathogens and that's what's happening but they're all already some people in there's a”

couple folks in Arizona California Georgia Texas Virginia in New Jersey that are all being monitored because they may have come in contact with somebody who may have come in contact with a hand to virus person but none of those people have symptoms so far so it's like awful you get extremely sick it's like you can get sick you can throw up you can become dehydrated you can bleed you can it's like horrible horrible horrible respiratory infection you can like yeah cough blood like awful awful stuff

it was pretty rough when you were showing like swabs of blood yes so it's pretty pretty not a great thing 40% mortality rate not feeling so great about it hard to spread which is good it's not something that's like you know airborne like super easy to spread but but this is why I don't go on cruisess I can't be cruising keep you out your cruising hopefully good like there's just too many horror stories no there why would I want to go on a boat where I would get stuck on the boat every time I

hear about a cruise something bad has happened to people on it so short and sweet if you're going to do it I like I am suspicious of everything now yeah so like this is a thing you're going to tell me that they went to the it sounds a little woohan wet market it's a little bit not oh we didn't make this one up again we didn't like try to see well they're like well they went to Patagonia's

“most remote island and they visited a landfill who does that that's what they said I was like”

you're so full of shit I don't believe that it's like because they don't want to admit that they're

I just I don't know guys it's you're going to have to really prove me rolling on this one

“not a lot of rats in New York City and there's a lot of rat pay right so in no haunt of virus you're”

right if I don't know I don't know how they got into it what kind of special situations they got into but it's also odd for it to go from it's it's like not supposed to be human to human past but I guess that it is but we should probably we'll get an epidemiologist on next week and we'll see where we're at but yeah they're taking those people off the ship and they're sending them to Nebraska so very much good luck to you in Nebraska y'all have the facility to deal with that

I guess and I guess if I worked at that facility I'd be like yes this is what we've been waking for it's like you're preparing for this moment you're not sure if it'll ever happen the only people excited about haunt of virus in the world have got to be the folks working at that Nebraska facility who are like we get to do our special thing I know but people not get into

their special thing canvas a popular cloud-based digital hub for classrooms has more than 30 million

active users globally with 8,000 institutions on it basically no one can take their college finals right now and no one can access their notes or lectures because they were hacked by shiny hunters that's the name of the hacking group and they're essentially saying pay us or we will leak all of this data from like all of these 30 million active users and but the worst part is though people can't take their final exams I don't know that sounds like a good thing to me

“I would be like I guess you have to just give me an A I mean when we had 9/11 at school”

in New York they just gave us a is for the semester they were like okay everybody passed on my ties. See you next time let's just try to learn something maybe if you can but you all get A's and we'll try again in this spring. A's left after 9/11 but it well we were on stat island and they were like this is you know you have to be on stat island and 9/11 you all get nay that's like 20 minutes from New York City. I was a computer

town you could see the house you got in A then they should have done like we were just like jersey strong move on just strong move on no they were like stat island we are victims okay we have victims and we deserve participation trophies everywhere and we're gonna talk about this forever because I remember yeah island has the big dump and so they were like bringing the pieces of the things that island it is it is I don't know why I picked it there tell you what when

Wagner College puts you on the tour they like show you like Grimes Hill and the most beautiful parts and like how you're camp your school window will overlook the skyline of New York and they like sell the ferry to you it was like a romantic thing it was not it was the big college and there was a college yeah it's going to be jersey oh no they were like pretty large for those sort of like move on and like kids in the school lost their parents no that's terrible yeah they

were so I was in theater school they were like you all get an A and we'll be exploring this trauma in next summer's production of I don't know cabaret or something awful all about this traumatic experience well and the last thing that's happening in headlines just around out our Friday is that ABC is now threatening to sue Trump over in FCC investigation into the view a show that Trump has just hated and still hates and will forever hate but it's conservative

lawyers leading the efforts saying that the president is threatening the license of a major broadcast network because he just doesn't personally like the shows that they host and that is fucking insane they didn't they didn't say that they said that it's unconstitutional but it is

“kind of insane yeah it is he hates I think he's like joy he hates joy he's kind of narrow he”

joy's been on him on and of ours on him he used to hate Rosie O'Donnell he hates women so he certainly doesn't like a show who Rosie I kind of miss her she's coming back I think I think she's coming back from Ireland sometime she was like when he got elected she was like dooses and I'm pretty sure she's gonna come back though I bet we see Rosie on like the traders or something soon I feel like you could have had a Rosie show I mean I still can we might we'll see I'll get

Kush balls in here I mean this is I mean you probably get the same number she did yeah and need a lesbian to have a talk show at all times lesbians are so good at talk shows we are so about interest actually lesbian lesbian lesbian lesbian lesbian lesbian see it's like Broadway nerd lesbians need a talk show because we cannot redo Ellen um so yeah I know I was realizing

that Rosie actually got her first gig at 30 something like early 30s yes the feast it can happen

the Ricky Lake show back actually that would be my dream I think we kind of have it right on

yeah that's true I mean Phillips tonight is definitely the new Ricky Lake you're she's kind of more than new Jerry springer a little bit but with political pundits I actually love it I like I say

“great I think I want those on TV honestly she's an excellent she's an excellent referee”

for what it is that they're putting out there and the table does tend to respect when she says

enough which I think is the most you can have he's so smart I mean she can really like she's brilliant

she can get up and way more but spend your weekend reading terrors report from the red letter it's on sub stack and there's a couple youtube videos accompanying it also john carries on comfortable Epstein connection thank you be for having me on yes goddess and do the best yeah I appreciate

“you give me this time and of course anytime I think I've talked about Epstein enough if my”

name's on a list it's not gonna be double on a list for keep talking about it you know like they

probably already got my number so I know if my personal most odd agent is listening hello we still want to talk to Amanda though we want to talk to Amanda still you'll probably have that soon I imagine as soon as she feels safe about it you know if I miss is my personal Chinese agent from tiktok when the Chinese own tiktok it was so good that app was phenomenal

“and now it's like a little harder little harder it is it is we're on tiktok right now we're”

streaming we're streaming over there hello tiktok friends but don't you miss when the Chinese ran that app man it really like clockwork was perfect now it's like let you love it because I was afraid they were going to take my brain out of rhythm and make something out of it wow I really did I mean I have I have a tiktok I only put things out there and you have they say you in love you only got what you give yes you know you got to be a dual a dual citizen on tiktok I was afraid

of what it was there I didn't want to fall in love with a Chinese spy app oh it's so good oh and now Instagram is my love Instagram is gonna love to Instagram does great that shout out to the Instagramers that are watching right now I love my Instagram thank you and on and on subsack that's like I can do a messy at a word same and same for me to hit that subscribe button Twitter hi I'm Tampson Fidel journalist and author of How to Manipause and host of the Tampson Show

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