S2E31: Peter and Laura Kane: A nonspeaker answers your questions | Talk Tracks

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“Science, spirituality, consciousness, and yes,”

even unexplained phenomena like side abilities. We examine the mysteries that sit just beyond the edge of what science can currently explain alongside researchers, thinkers, families, and experiences.

If you haven't yet listened to the telepathy tapes, I encourage you to start there. It lays the foundation for everything that we'll be exploring, because every era has ideas once dismissed as impossible until some

one was willing to investigate them seriously. And on this show, we do just that. In this episode of The Talk Tracks, we sit down with Peter, a non-speaker who communicates through spelling and his mother Laura,

to explore the extraordinary journey their family has been on over the last two years. Like many families navigating this world, Laura and her family were told that her son wasn't in there.

But after being introduced to spelling, which is a typed-based communication, Peter began revealing a rich inner world that would profoundly change the way his family understood him. As Peter became an open speller,

meaning his motor coordination was strong enough that he could spell out his own thoughts. He soon started sharing thoughts that surprised the family, about telepathy, reading through his mother's eyes, spirituality, and knowledge exchanges

on the plane that many non-speakers refer to as the hill. It's been an extremely emotional experience for Laura and her family, and we'll take you through their journey. And then toward the end of the episode, we'll hear Peter's answers to the questions we collected

from our backstage past listeners. So Laura and Peter, it's so nice to meet you. - Yeah, it's so nice to meet you too. You're the celebrity in this fellow-er's family world. - Oh, that's so nice.

And where are you both located? - We're in Columbia, South Carolina, the capital, South Carolina. - Okay, wonderful. And Peter, how old are you?

- He's 16, he'll be 17 in Maine. - Oh my gosh, teenager. - Yeah. - Audience at home, Peter is a non-speaker, and he types to communicate,

and he took time to answer many of the submitted questions that were on our backstage past, but before we get into those, it would be great to hear more from you Laura, about how this journey began,

and how it is that Peter can now communicate. - So we started in the spring of 2024. Peter was 14 at the time, and a friend of mine from church sent me a link to a Facebook post about a man and a son who had a communication break through using letterboards,

and I followed the link, and it led me to the documentary, spellers the movie, and took a while for me to process that, and then something compelled me to start doing some research, and I just want to pause super quick, because when you saw this spellers movie,

which for those at home follows a group of non-speakers who learned to spell to communicate by typing out their thoughts. You know, what were your thoughts? Like, did you believe that could even be true for Peter,

or were you in denial? - I was one of the people that was like, "Oh, that's great for them." It's not gonna work for Peter, we've tried everything, and it was in the mine frame

“that this is it, this is how our life is gonna be.”

But then something told me to just look it up, I'm a medical librarian by trade and retired now, and so I'm good at finding articles. So I did some research, and I discovered that there was an event called the Immersion Week,

it was gonna be in Tampa, Florida,

and it's basically intensive event

where you have several spelling sessions, and several motor planning sessions, every day for five days. So this is where the first emotional hurdle is, you know, fear and doubt.

People in our situation often are fearful of having hope. Peter had speech therapy, occupational therapy, physical therapy, ADA, music therapy, everything. You're afraid to open your heart to that hope again,

only to have a dash to the ground. And I, that just is your one on that more, because for people who haven't lived through it, it's like you, in the beginning are like, okay, this is gonna work, and you get all excited,

and then it doesn't. And it's like, you can only take that a few times, right? And then you just kind of put a wall around it, and they're like, okay, nothing's gonna work. - Right, safer.

- Yeah, I mean, Peter had speech therapy for eight years,

and he's never spoken a single word.

“And everybody was like, you have to do speech therapy,”

you have to do ABA, you have to do OT. Well, he maybe got a little bit of benefit from those therapies, but not significant. And then there was the fear of the failure, I emailed the administrators of the spellers clinic in Tampa,

and asked, what if my son can't spell? And she replied, this never happened before, and I feel guilty in a shame to say this, but I'll literally thought, okay,

I guess the jokes on me, but I had doubt because in addition to all of this, as I said, I was doing research, and I found all those articles

that talked about these powerful agencies,

Asha, and ABA, that call the use of letterboards harmful. And for those of you who don't know, Asha is the American Speech Language Hearing Association, and ABA stands for Applied Behavior Analysis, which tends to be the big therapy

that most people with autism are put into, and both groups tend to be adamantly against spelling on letterboards, but I do need to just insert something here,

“and I think it's really important to disclose this.”

There's just an article published in psychology today in May of 2026, that noted autism intervention research, 78% of the authors held conflicts of interest, so they're either being paid by ABA providers

or ABA consultants. And I mean, this could be like an entirely different episode, but when it comes to this regarding spelling, I just encourage people who are interested to follow the money, you know,

if there's a financial loss to the ABA industry,

if more than a million non-speaking kids

learn to spell, instead of going to ABA therapy, it might explain why the majority of research done in this space was found to have a conflict of interest. Okay, anyway, so I digress. So you heard that Asha and ABA were adamantly

against letterboards. They banned them from use, and I read all of this, and I was like, well, how can I justify this with scientific person? But something led me to keep going,

if we didn't do it, we would regret it. Just like reading those articles, I think can really stop parents. So what were some of the things that were the headlines that were maybe

“keeping up a night or going to your head?”

Some of the things where they say, it's not the client or that's spaller doing the talking or somebody's influencing what they're saying, or it's not real, or it's a trick that there is no proof, no evidence-based studies on this,

and you can't implement something that's not evidence-based, blah, blah, blah. And I know all about evidence-based studies 'cause I worked in a medical library for 32 years. So those were red flags to me, and also we have two older sons

and our middle son was still living at home, and he read the articles as well. And he was like, "Mom, you can't do this. It's bad, it's not science." But there was something that was compelling me to go,

so we won. Okay. And the very first day of this clinic, we were slammed with shock and disbelief because he was spelling words like carnivore,

snowboard, milkshake, ocean, honey badger, and we fell out of our chairs. Maybe just paint that scene for us. So we walked into this room, there's other first-time spellers and parents,

probably everyone's feeling the same way. When we had a meeting with all the parents and families, we were taken into a little classroom with a spelling practitioner. And so it was Peter sitting in a chair

by the spelling practitioner and me and Patrick. My husband's sitting behind them so we could see what he was doing. And at the very beginning, when the practitioner spoke to him one-on-one and she was like,

"Hi Peter, it's nice to meet you. I know you're in there, a hundred percent believe in you. I know you can do this, you're smart." And I'm like, "Nobody's ever said that to him."

I've never even said that to him.

I mean, now I have, but that was gut-wrenching for us and we were like, "Wow." And the practitioner would read a spelling lesson, which was basically a little story and then she would ask questions related to the paragraph.

And so she started off by asking him to spell some of the words, so she would say, "Okay, spell "Huddy Badger." And she would hold up the alphabet divided into three stencil boards. What you mean by the three boards is that when people are starting, instead of 26 letters on one board,

they might have six letters really big. Right. They're like three inches tall. So it's A through F and then G through L and then M through Z or whatever.

So it's basically the alphabet divided into three big stencil boards. And so you're using gross motor skills instead of fine motor skills at this point. And she would hold up the appropriate board and he would point to the letters.

And in that way, he was able to show us that he could spell, obviously, Carnival or Honey Badger, that kind of thing. But even that was just so incredible to us because he was clearly going to each letter on his own very little coaching.

And then she started asking him questions that were not covered in the lesson.

“And then she asked him, what does a pescitarian eat?”

And he spelled fish. We could not believe it because we were like, okay, wait a minute, okay, he can spell. And then also he knows this. And then she asked him, what was the capital of California?

And he spelled Sacramento. We didn't even know that. We're from the East Coast, I don't know that. And then what's the capital of Illinois? He spelled Springfield.

We didn't know that either. It was just incredible. And then he really blew us away when he was asked name a person in history who was famous for having a dream.

(laughs) We were just kind of in shock.

“At the end of each day, I would go and text my sons”

and my family and say, oh my gosh, you'll never believe this.

Yeah, we learned that all of this has been in there. And he's been absorbing information all this life. Like all the stories we've heard from all the non-speakers that they're so full of knowledge. It was just incredible.

We were on a high. What did your one son say or your family members that were disbelieving? Were they thinking that you were just wishful thinking or were they?

Well, you know, my middle son is very quiet, very reserved. He just didn't really say much. He was still doubtful. My older son was super excited. And then when we got home from Tampa,

we hit the ground running. We started doing spelling every day. And within a couple of months, he moved on the three boards to the 26 letter board stencil. So you're slowly going from gross motor.

And eventually, you'll hit fine motor skills. So then we had amazement excitement and discovery. And there seemed to be no limit to what he knew. We'd be doing a lesson on astronomy. And he would tell me, you know, all the planets

and the moons around the planet or the elements of chemical charts. And I mean, pretty much any subject that we covered. He not only could answer questions that were covered in the lesson,

but also what are called prior known questions. So he showed us that he's been learning and not only high school level stuff, but it seemed to me that it was beyond that. Like, how could you know all this stuff?

“Eventually, did you ask him how we knew everything?”

Yeah. Maybe about six months after we started Peter began answering those open end and questions. And he would say things like, you know, I've been absorbing information all my life.

And also, you know, later on down the line,

when we learned all this, you know, amazing stuff about him.

He says he learns things from the hill. And just to interject for people who aren't new to this. So becoming open means that Peter can answer questions that don't have to do with the material that they're studying or the lesson plan.

And the reason being open doesn't just happen immediately is because learning to point to the letters on a letterboard takes motor control and motor planning that someone has to basically learn from scratch.

So while you're learning that motor planning, it's just kept easy, right? Like, fill in the blank type questions. Okay, so anyway, Laura, once you could ask him anything, what was that like?

When he became open, we just started to see almost a whole new person. It was like we were meeting him for the first time. And we discovered he's got a sense of humor and he's pretty witty and, of course, super smart

that seems to be a common denominator.

“And what were some of the things he said, do you remember?”

So some things were kind of sad like when he was in school, when he was very young, he wanted to talk to people. Nobody would talk to him. And, you know, he was trying to talk to them in his head and he didn't understand why they weren't answering him.

Basically, the fact that, you know,

he wanted people to know he was smart and nobody ever realized how smart he was until finally now. So I think in your initial email to me, you said that, you know, as he started typing out of thoughts,

he started saying things that were kind of off the grid for your baseline of what is possible or what could be, you know, almost like science fiction and what could be real. So what were some of those things that started to take you off guard?

- You know, a couple times during our spelling sessions, these strange things would happen. But Culminating event was we were doing a lesson on astronomy. And I asked a question from the lesson.

And in my head, I had the answer as optical mirror, but the actual answer was optical telescope. And to answer the question, Peter spelled optical mirror, which is what I had in my head. And then I realized what had happened.

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At that point, I went to talk to Patrick and I was like, Peter just said he can hear my thoughts. So the two of us went back into the room and were like, Peter, did you just say that? And he nodded his head.

And I was like, can we test it? And Patrick's like, no, don't test it. But Peter nodded, so I was like, okay, what color am I thinking of? Then I was thinking of yellow and he spelled Y-E.

But then he got really agitated and I was like, okay, we'll come back to this later. So then did a lesson. I said earlier he said he could hear my thoughts. Can we try it?

“He nodded and I said, okay, what word am I thinking?”

And he spelled A-M-O-R-E, which is a modey, which is love and Italian, I speak Italian. And that was the word I was thinking. You know, I couldn't process that. I was like, what is happening?

I did more tests like I would think of words and he would spell them. I've got a random word generator on my phone and we're not showing them anything and he would spell whatever I was thinking.

I even asked my sister who lives in Augusta about all of this during that time. And I was like, can you text me a phrase or something? And so she would text me phrases. One of them was the early bird gets the worm.

And I would look at it in the different room. I leave my phone there and then go in their spelling room and say, Peter, what in Maria text me? And he would spell the Reverd gets the worm.

Or it is always springtime in the heart

that loves God, that was one of the quotes. 100% no mistakes. And I understand all of this was happening before the telepathy tapes was ever out. But had you heard rumblings about telepathy

in the non-speaking community or from any parents or coaches prior to this? I had not. This was August of 2024. And I was dealing with fear and disbelief in frustration

'cause if this was true, what was happening

“and where we alone and how could I believe”

this is ridiculous on a library. But by the end of that month, I had started reading Katie Asherson's book, The Book of Heaven. Katie Asherson was featured in Season 1 of the telepathy tapes. And she wrote about her incredible journey

also finding out that her son was not only in there, but was held pathic and had a myriad of similar spiritual gifts. Right. Then I felt relief because I found Katie's book.

And then your podcast came out the telepathy tapes and everything that you covered in that podcast was a validation of what Peter was telling us. That was such a relief to know that we were not alone, that we were not crazy and that he really did have this ability.

At this point, had he quote unquote just told you about telepathy or was there anything else kind of unusual unfolding? At that point, it was only the mind reading. And I was like, well, does he mean just me?

And then I started asking him things like that. And he would say, no, he couldn't read anyone's thoughts. And he would communicate with the kids that go to the ADA clinic that he's with every day. And he communicates with other non-speakers.

So we were dealing with another emotion which is doubt and uncertainty because it's only occurred to me that if it is true that he could hear my thoughts, did he really know the answers to all of those things that he has told us in the previous months?

“Like, who's words were coming out on the letterboard?”

And that was so hard to deal with and it was scary. But luckily, by this time, I had built a good support group. So I reached out to Katie, Asher, and she was giving me advice about all of that. In our spelling practice room,

use the Spellers method was very supportive. And she acknowledged that many of her clients have this super power, she calls it a super power. And so she gave me some tips and techniques to use during spelling to help bring Peter's words out

and not mind what were her tips?

Well, she basically was saying I need to take up meditation,

which I'm really bad at, you know, try to clear your mind, try it to be calm. And don't push anything, work on, creative writing. That's a good way to do it. Let's write a high coup, okay, fill in the blank.

Give me a word, and some of that works. - Yeah, and this is something that many parents have expressed. It's like communication is unlocked,

all this incredible knowledge your child has

or your student has.

“And then all of a sudden, when the toilet paper appears,”

it's like, oh, wait a second, eight is this real, and B, if it's true, what was their thought versus my own, and then how do you make sure that what they're writing is their own words and ideas, which once you get to know a type,

you kind of start to know which ones are yours versus theirs. And anyway, I don't know if any of that has happened to you, but I do want to ask about whether or not you ever started receiving telepathic messages in return from Peter. Because this is something that has come up a lot,

and kind of privately, like we haven't talked about it a lot on the telepathy tapes, but that so often, when a parent or coach or teacher or someone starts typing with a non-speaker, there is some sort of like telepathic link that gets opened up, where in some cases,

it's not just a non-speaker who can read thoughts. It starts to happen to the parent hearing the thoughts of their speller. - Oh, yes. (laughs) One of the things I did discovered was,

sometimes I'll ask him a question, and a fully formed sentence or phrase,

“we'll pop into my head, and Peter will spell that.”

And I asked him, is that me or those my words that you're taken from my head, or are you putting them in my head and then spelling your own words?

And he always says, I put it in your head first,

and then I spell it, and for those phrases, how did you know that they weren't your thoughts? It's like in a form that I wouldn't say, like the phrasing is different. Some of the words are things that I wouldn't choose.

Sometimes it would be something that I would think or say, but other times it would be like, well, I would have phrased that differently, or I don't know if I would have used that word. So he tends to have phrases that he uses for starters,

when he's starting a sentence, or he'll insert pah-ha sometimes, or kind of teenagery type things that I don't speak like that. - So it's almost like what he's spelling is validating what he communicated to you

telepathically first. - Yes, so it's like he is using his number one form of communication, but he then is stupid to my level to spell it out for me, he's coming down to meet me where I'm at, to have to spell it out.

And I'm sure he wishes that he could just put things in my head and leave it at that, but the world is not allowing that right now. So it goes both ways. - Yeah, and I forgot where I heard this at some point, but a parent said that their son had said,

"My software needs to use your hardware." - Oh, yes, and I was like, that's so interesting, 'cause like the thoughts are there, but it's like your hardware might be a put it in her brain, and then that will help you regulate and get it out.

And it's like spelling is on the edge of what we can understand and the only way to truly understand it is to understand if something bigger going on. - Right. And it is kind of sad that they have all these abilities

and yet we are forcing them to work through all of their motor challenges to spell out these thoughts that are so complex and why can't we meet them when they are instead of them having to do the reverse with all of their challenges that they have, right?

- Does that happen more and more? Like if you're sitting with him now, are you able to pick up more of his thoughts? - I think I can, but I think it's strongest when you're spelling.

I feel like maybe like a channel opens up when we're sitting by each other and I have the letterboard up. And I have asked him before why I have to hold the letterboard

“a lot of people have questions about why you have to hold it”

and why you can't just like put it on the table. And he said, "I need the energy from your arm." And he explained it as if it were like a circuit like the energy from my head to my arm to the letterboard to his finger to his head.

If any parts of that circuit are broken, then it's not gonna work. - For anyone who hasn't seen spelling an action, typically the spelling partner in this case, Peter's Maumlura will hold the letterboard out in front of the speller.

And his typeers or spellers become more confident and their motor pathways develop often they're able to just type completely independently on an iPad or even a courty keyboard that's on a surface. But sometimes, typeers can really benefit

from a little bit of touch. I've even met typeers who said as long as their communication partner is touching the same carpet as them or even their foot is touching their chair at helps. So the grounding thing at least to me is fascinating.

But what is most amazing to me about what you just said

is that in the telepathy tapes film, which we will hopefully have announcements about release date shortly, we follow a young man learning to spell to communicate and the incredible spelling coach, Austin, who this young man

is working with, says that he's seen this over and over, that there seems to be a battery circuit created between the communication regulation partner in this case, you, the letterboard that's being held by them and then the typeers who's typing

and that like close circuit creates something. It does something with grounding or energy, but I love that what Austin said, which is not available to the public at all yet, is the exact same language that Peter used to describe it.

And when that happens, I just love it

in a special way. - Yeah, that it's really neat.

“And once he said that it really made sense to me,”

that I stopped doubting it, I was like, okay, fine. And he is on the keyboard now. He's during the acquisition phase of the keyboard. So I'm not really asking him open questions right now because he's learning the motor plane

and this now fine motor skills. And you saw him, he has that constant rocking motion. So it's very hard for him to dial in on one tiny little letter on the keyboard and poke it. It's like he has to hold his breath to hold his body still

in order to get that letter. But he is so determined and he's working every day. But one thing he said when we started the keyboard, he said FYI, I use your eyes for accuracy on the keyboard. And I was like, okay, I was like,

are you gonna always have to do this?

He said, no, someday I will be independent. For now, you know, while he's learning the motor plan, he's taken the easy way out. And I guess using my eyes for accuracy. And you know, he has said that he uses my eyes for other things.

Like, he's told me that he can read any book that I've ever read, he can access it from my head,

“even if I don't remember it, he can read it.”

- So did that change things for you? You know, learning that he can see what you see? - Yeah, now I'm kind of like conscious of what I watch on TV or on YouTube or whatever, 'cause I'm like, oh my gosh, wait a minute.

If it's a content or whatever, I don't want him to be able to see it. But I do get the feeling that they're kind of discerning about when they tap into somebody's thoughts and minds. Like, they either have to be invited

or they are looking for a piece of information. So that gives me a little bit of comfort because I wouldn't want him to access every single thing that I can see 'cause there's some bad stuff in the world. So I haven't even been any other instances.

I'd like to on a trip to Europe last October when I came back, I was showing Peter the pictures and stuff. And he said, "Mom, I saw everything you saw, "the Alps, each country, I really liked Germany."

He was like, okay, so it was basically saying,

"I don't need to see these pictures again. "I've already seen everything." - No, wow, okay. So he tells you he can see through your eyes and access information you've seen in the past.

Like, what else did he share? - Pretty much everything that was talked about on the telepathy tapes he has validated and confirmed. You know, he has said stuff about remote viewing, accessing books in my head, other people's heads.

He started saying that he has friends on the hill. And he was like, "Yes, I talked to my friend Ben "on the hill, he's my mentor." And I have no idea who Ben is. So at night, I can hear him in his bed,

he'll be totally dark, totally silent, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, all here I'm laughing and vocalizing doesn't speak at all, but I can tell when he's happy, when he's excited. And the next day he'll be tired and I'll say,

"Why are tired?" I spent too much time with my friends last night. "Where are you doing most of the time?" He says they were learning. I teach each other.

He has said that he teaches Roman history on the hill, which I just can't rent my mind around that.

“But so I think he's learned things from his environment”

and also from other non-speakers and they share information either on the hill or telepathically, I think. I know for a lot of parents and teachers, a certain gifts or talents seem to emerge over time.

Is there anything else that Peter has shared with you that maybe you weren't expecting? He said that he sees angels. He says they are everywhere. The spirit world is here with us.

You know, the rest of us can't see it. He talks to people who are deceased in particular, my grandmother, who is Italian.

He's never met her and he has said a few things

about her and how she prays for him in his journeys. And so it occurred to me one day, wait a minute, "If you can see spirits, they may not always be benign." And so I said, "Do spirits talk to you and try to pass messages?"

And he said, "I'm reading from my notes. "Always they are saying things to me." And I said, "Okay, are these people we know "or are they strangers?" He said, "They are both talking to loved ones."

And I asked, "How are you supposed to pass on messages?" He said, "I can find souls on the hill "which I interpreted to me if he needs to pass the message "just someone he can find a non-speaker or soul on the hill "and pass the message I'm not sure."

And then I said, "Are there any spirits "that try to talk to you that are bad or have bad intentions?" He said, "Many times, I'm trying to pray for God to help." And I said, "Well, what about your guardian angel?" 'Cause he told me he has a guardian angel.

I was like, "Does he or she help you?"

And then I was like, "Okay, is your guardian angel

"male or female?" And he said, "Can't tell." And then I said, "Anything else," he said, "It's name is costia." Wow, that's so interesting.

Okay, so now where does Peter skeptical brother Santa and all this? Did he come around? He did. He's still very reserved about it.

But I had a talk with him recently,

“and I was like, "Do you believe in this?"”

Or not. He's like, "I do believe, I 100% believe." He said, "But it is a lot." Because this was right after I told him about what we had learned about the telepathy.

So it was even hard to wrap his mind around the fact that Peter was so smart and could even spell. And now we're talking about something. It's so beyond the realm of possibility that he was like, "It's a lot, it's a lot."

I was like, "That's fine." Yeah, you don't have to believe in that stuff. You just have to support him with this spelling 'cause that's the whole point, really, to be able to communicate.

And if you don't want to learn about the telepathy or the other superpowers or spiritual gifts that they have, that's fine. But our oldest son is 100% on board. In fact, he's about to be 27,

and he wants to become a communication partner for Peter. So that's really cool. It's so awesome. And for you, you know, has this changed your beliefs or how you view the world?

Well, it's totally strengthened my belief in God and belief in life after death. It's kind of comforting. And just to know that there's such a feeling of love amongst these non-speakers and how they can access that.

And that's pretty much their goal to spread the love and peace to know that this crazy world, there's more beyond what we can see and beyond this life. - Remarkable. Thank you for sharing so much about your family's experience.

What a wild ride. And so I know Peter's up and down. But Peter, you've spent a lot of time answering questions from our listeners who sent them in via our backstage pass. Laura, would you like to read his responses?

- Yeah. (gentle music)

- The first question that you had was,

what advice would you give to parents whose children have just begun learning to spell? And Peter's spelled have faith in the process. I started out accelerated because of immersion week. But then he said, but for others, it is a slow journey.

The spell or nose, if you believe they can do it.

“That's why it's important to practice daily and be patient.”

There will be times when it looks like they don't want to spell to trust me they do. This is life-changing. One thing to stress is to stay calm. - Yeah.

- So beautiful, Peter. - Well said. - Yeah. - And then the next question was, what are your thoughts and desires for humanity?

And Peter said, humanity is on the brink of self-destruction. We have to unify to bring about a shift in spiritual awakening. I wish people could see the beauty of life like we can. If all could see they would realize we are all the same.

And then I said, what can we do to help with this? We're not able to see what you see. And he said, the spread of love is the strongest weapon, which I thought was really deep. - Yeah, I love that.

- The next question was, how do you experience connection or awareness beyond spoken language? And do you call it telepathy? And he said, I am able to tap into the frequency of minds. Each person has a unique mind, biology,

and therefore a different frequency. I call it mind merging. Some people are not accessible. And I asked him, are there traits

“that make people's minds accessible or not accessible?”

And he said, it has to do with faith and fear. If someone is afraid of openness, their mind is really hard to access. - So interesting. - Yeah, that is.

And then let's see, are there spiritual insights you want to share?

He spelled, the spirit world is here with us always.

We need to be on guard against evil, but also open to receiving the love of angels. Always stay around good people, which is a great lesson for all of us. You know, yeah, hang around people who were not good.

Peter, what's happening for you right now? I saw when your mom was talking about that, you start squinting real hard. (laughing) Let's see.

I got the letterboard. (laughing) - Do you think, eight, four, five, five, yes. - Peter is spelling here, and for the sake of brevity, we're gonna cut to the end of the sentence.

He spelled, this is exciting for some of us. And I pretty sure he means a lot of non-speakers. I did want to share one thing a while ago, I asked him, what has been going on on the hill lately?

who bring news and things that are important to us.

You need to see it. And I said, well, name one thing of importance that you discussed on the hill, and he said, we talk about angels, and I said, do you talk about high

and the work she does on the telepathy tapes? And he said, we talk about that often. And I said, do you guys need to learn these, doing some good? And he said, yes, but there are some who take advantage

of the ideas that are revealed. So that's pretty interesting. I'm so curious to what you mean by that Peter,

“because I think it could help build some protection.”

Like when you say, there's people taking advantage of the ideas being revealed. Can you share more about that? - Mm-hmm. - See, I need to use, I need to use.

- Mm-hmm, there are bad uses of telepathy. I am so curious about that, because I do think one thing that we get worried about people who is like, people, they, oh, I'm not trying to go to the hill now. Am I prayer is that it's divinely protected

and that you have a safe space? But the last thing I want is for the hill to be like co-op dead or gentrified. They have told me that there's no way that bad people could get into the hill

that it's protected by spiritual beings. Which is great to know. And I have heard that a couple of times from other spellers as well. Yeah, that's great.

I have to, that feels so good to know that. Peter, there's so much attention right now.

“I think I'd not speakers on their families, on spelling.”

And so a lot to handle, a lot to carry. Is there anything that you want people to do differently for me to do differently or for just the best public to know, to do better? - You, you, you, well, well, I believe in us

and give us the tools we need to live happy lives. (laughing) - Wow, those are such great responses, Peter. And thank you both for taking the time to answer everything. I know it takes a while.

- Yeah, it's not quick. Process getting the answers out and so on. - Over a couple days, you answered the questions, right? - Is there anything else you want to say? - I'm a guy at this point.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - B, H, A, N, K, thank you for being our champion. I think ushering in a new view for the world of what it means to love and be alive as are your parents

to teach people what unconditional love can look like. - Yeah. - Is there anything else that Peter typed out he wanted to share with our listeners or that he mentioned wanting to communicate?

- He always says things like, "My life has become an adventure

"since I started to say my own thoughts on the letterboard. "Now I'm able to do things I couldn't be for "when my family had no clue what I am capable of. "I'm so happy because now I'm able to feel included "in he wants to be an advocate for other non-speakers,

"you know, he wants people to believe in them "and he wants, we've already recruited a number of families "from our church and from the center where he goes daily "to start spelling." And so he's happy about that, and it's just gonna see

I had a list of quotes from them. Basically, they're all about kindness and love. And it's pretty amazing because they're whole lives. They've been underestimated, treated like they're dumb and yet they're so forgiving, they're amazing people.

And he says that we are all connected. And that has made a difference in my life. We're all born, we're all connected. And it just takes small steps to move in that direction. And if everybody did just a little small step

to connect with someone else and accept other people

“then I think that could be life-changing.”

And it's kind of humbling that they are the ones that are teaching us these things.

- Right, yeah, and it's almost like the most powerful voices

are from those who don't quote unquote have voices at all. - I know, pretty amazing. - And to think about where your journey started, which, as you said, was filled with hopelessness and helplessness.

And as we end, what's the final thought you want to leave us with? - Just acceptance and all because after all the doubt and uncertainty and craziness, I accept that Peter has amazing abilities, beyond everything we anything we can comprehend.

And I am in constant awe of him and of people like him and his friends, they all have courage, determination, then brilliant, they have a lot of forgiveness and they have a lot of superpowers. And most of all, they want to advocate for other non-speakers

and autistics. And they want to maintain hope and just boost each other up. And I think that's amazing. - It is amazing. And I feel like the best part of this work

for me every day is being reminded of what love is. So thank you for sharing your story and for being here and Peter, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions. - We appreciate all the work you guys are doing. It's amazing. (laughs)

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